c't did an article on UMTS sticks in the issue dated 21/12/2009, and they couldn't get the Vodafone stick (they called it Huawei K3765) to work because the mode-switch between zeroCD and normal mode couldn't be done from Linux.

That's where the trick of explicitly Ejecting the stick in Dolphin comes in. If you don't do that, it stays in ZEROCD mode. As soon as you Eject the stick, it switches over to Broadband mode. This is shown in dmesg as well.. before ejecting, all that's discovered when you plug in the stick is the CD part. Eject, and the modem is picked up, and the /dev nodes are created. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

C wrote:

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c't did an article on UMTS sticks in the issue dated 21/12/2009, and they couldn't get the Vodafone stick (they called it Huawei K3765) to work because the mode-switch between zeroCD and normal mode couldn't be done from Linux.

That's where the trick of explicitly Ejecting the stick in Dolphin comes in. If you don't do that, it stays in ZEROCD mode. As soon as you Eject the stick, it switches over to Broadband mode. This is shown in dmesg as well.. before ejecting, all that's discovered when you plug in the stick is the CD part. Eject, and the modem is picked up, and the /dev nodes are created.

Aha. I guess c't missed that one :-) I have not yet experimented with one of these UNTS sticks, but I will be, as I need one for this summer. Interesting trick with the eject. The data you mentioned sounds good to me - are you getting any errors etc? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.6°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 16:30, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

long enough to trigger a KDE event. Couldn't the storage device be suppressed by a udev rule for this specific device? Then no one would see it during it's very short existence. What sort of rule would that have to be?

I've seen documentation to this effect, but haven't investigated it too far since the Eject trick seems to be working...

After that, I also have not been able to proceed. I think my problem is that the config asks for things without explaining what they are. So I am unsure if I am selecting the correct values from the very scant info that comes with the device. It is a case of the config using GSM jargon that I am not familiar with.

That's the same point I'm at... what info goes where.. what is needed to get the connection to be established. It tries to connect, or so NetworkManager seems to indicate... but... always fails to authenticate. I'm guessing that the problem lies in the info I'm giving it.. or not giving it. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 16:33, Bogdan Cristea wrote:

There has been already a topic about this issue some time ago in the same list.

Yes, I saw it in my searching... but that covers a different manufacturer type than the one I have, plus the USB stick is IDed and appears to be "working" - I can get it to switch into modem mode and at least initiate the connection to my provider.. it never completes.

    In openSUSE 11.2 I am using wvdial to connect to my Internet provider. You need to configure your modem using wvdia.conf file and also to add the

Using wvdial is... OK if it was just me using this computer... but I have to get it working for non-techie users who will not be able to deal with running CLI stuff. I'm kinda hoping that since the network manager finds the USB Stick, and at least attempts to dial out with it, that I'll get it working... maybe. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 20:51, C wrote:

Some minor progress....

I've installed umtsmon.  This app finds the UMTS stick.  It asks for the PIN and validates against the SIM successfully.  It finds my provider (Vodaphone)...  Signal strength is shown as well... so that is all working.

Dialout is still failing though.  The log doesn't provide much beyond "Terminating on signal 15"  It's attempting to connect ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyUSB1

OK.. more progress... almost successful :-) The clue is in the error message... ttyUSB1. The modem is on ttyUSB3... so I started umtsmon like this umtsmon -s ttyUSB3 and attempted to connect. This time I did get a brief connection... -------------------------------- Using interface ppp0 Connect ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyUSB3 CHAP authentication succeeded CHAP authentication succeeded Modem hangup Connection terminated -------------------------------- Connect log looks like this: -------------------------------- ##P3 t=120: ConnectionBaseClass::chat() start ##P4 t=120: Query sends the following mesage: 'AT&F' ##P4 t=120: answer 1:'AT&F' ##P4 t=120: answer 2:'OK' ##P4 t=120: Query sends the following mesage: 'ATE1' ##P4 t=120: answer 1:'ATE1' ##P4 t=120: answer 2:'OK' ##P4 t=120: Query sends the following mesage: 'AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","web.vodaphone.de"' ##P4 t=120: answer 1:'AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","web.vodaphone.de"' ##P4 t=120: answer 2:'OK' ##P3 t=120: Dial String is: ATD*99***1# ##P4 t=120: Query sends the following mesage: 'ATD*99***1#' ##P4 t=121: answer 1:'ATD*99***1#' ##P4 t=121: answer 2:'CONNECT' ##P3 t=121: ConnectionBaseClass::chat() end with result: 1 ##P4 t=121: Assembled PPP string is: 'idle 7200 asyncmap 0 updetach dump debug debug debug 460800 lock crtscts modem /dev/ttyUSB3 noipx novj nobsdcomp defaultroute replacedefaultroute usepeerdns user VFD2 password WAP ' ##P4 t=121: ConnectionInfo:InhibitionCount ++, now is 2 ##P2 t=121: PPPConnection::PPPThread::PPPThread() ##P2 t=121: PPPThread::run, before runCommand ##P3 t=121: INSIDE PARENT, uid=1000, pid=2947 ##P3 t=121: INSIDE CHILD, uid=1000, pid=2956 ##P3 t=122: TempSerialPort::~TempSerialPort() ##P3 t=122: SerialPort::closeDev() for FD 8 ##P2 t=122: thePPPConnection.startConnection() returned without indicating problems ##P3 t=122: PPPDThread still running ##P2 t=122: ***UIState::update(void), state=6 ##P3 t=122: PPPDThread still running ##P3 t=122: ConnectionInfo probe inhibited ##P4 t=122: ConnectionInfo::refreshSignalQuality(void) ##P3 t=122: ConnectionInfo probe inhibited ##P3 t=122: ConnectionInfo probe inhibited ##P3 t=122: ConnectionInfo::refreshPPPStats ##P2 t=122: PPP State changed to present ##P3 t=122: MonthlyTraffic::start(anIsRoaming=0) ##P2 t=122: Profile::Profile('') ##P2 t=122: finally created profile for 'Vodaphone' ##P3 t=123: PPPDThread still running ##P3 t=124: PPPDThread still running ##P3 t=125: PPPDThread still running ##P2 t=125: ***UIState::update(void), state=6 ##P3 t=125: PPPDThread still running ##P3 t=125: ConnectionInfo probe inhibited ##P4 t=125: ConnectionInfo::refreshSignalQuality(void) ##P3 t=125: ConnectionInfo probe inhibited ##P3 t=125: ConnectionInfo probe inhibited ##P3 t=125: ConnectionInfo::refreshPPPStats ##P2 t=125: PPP State changed to gone ##P2 t=125: MonthlyTraffic::update detected non-monotonous traffic statistics. Some traffic bytes not accounted for! ##P3 t=125: previous Sent/Received numbers were: 34, 0 ##P3 t=125: MonthlyTraffic::save() ##P2 t=125: PPPThread::run, after runCommand ##P2 t=126: isDone is true ##P3 t=126: ConnectionBaseClass::setNewPPPState state 1 to 4 ##P2 t=126: UIState::newConnectionState(4) callback called ##P2 t=126: ------------------------------------ and at this point the modem hangs up... or the connection fails. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 22:46 +0200, C wrote:

And.. solved... it was.. easy-ish.

After loads of digging and searching... I discovered this page https://forge.betavine.net/frs/?group_id=12 which is the software repo for Vodafone's Linux software and drivers... I installed the three RPMs under the openSUSE 11.2 heading... started up the vodafone app... which told me my user needed to be a member of a coupel groups.. fixed that logged out.. then decided to reboot for good measure.

I plugged in the UMTS stick... I did NOT have to fiddle with Ejecting it via Dolphin. I just started up the Vodafone application.. filled in the info the startup wizard asked for, and clicked connect... and it connected right away. When you first load a web page it redirects to a Vodafone website where you can load credit etc... and... that's it. It's up and working... and Vodafone fully supports openSUSE with their devices.. they just don't advertise the fact nor make it particularly easy to discover this info.

Lucky you. Comviq do not offer such support. Or is is also well hidden.

Next step for me is to update the openSUSE Wiki entry I suppose.

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On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 23:56, Carlos E. R. wrote:

I'm curious. Do you know if that is true for all countries Vodaphone is in?

I don't need one of those right now, but knowing that at least one company suports linux somehow, is a good point.

I cannot say 100% for sure, but... it appears to be the case. There was no country specific info that I read anywhere... nothing about it being just Germany (where I am right now). They do seem to have pretty broad support for Linux if that webpage I linked is any indication. The recent builds of openSUSE are there. The Vodafone app is in English, and seems to be pretty generic (nothing DE specific anywhere I looked). it found the local carrier info via the initial connect to the SIM... so guessing.. the country specific stiff is set via the SIM, not the connect app or the UMTS hardware. Cost-wise it's not an expensive experiment.. the stick is 20€ and comes with 3 vouchers for connect time, plus you get 5 mins per day free connect time (so between the 5 min free time and the 3 vouchers, you don't need to buy additional credit for testing). C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Cost-wise it's not an expensive experiment.. the stick is 20€ and comes with 3 vouchers for connect time, plus you get 5 mins per day free connect time (so between the 5 min free time and the 3 vouchers, you don't need to buy additional credit for testing).

Those things do change with countries :-)

Yeah, it's all about marketing etc. Whilst on the subject - has anyone tried working with a UMTS stick with a pay-as-you-go or prepaid card? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.1°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 06 May 2010 07:20:02 Per Jessen wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Cost-wise it's not an expensive experiment.. the stick is 20€ and comes with 3 vouchers for connect time, plus you get 5 mins per day free connect time (so between the 5 min free time and the 3 vouchers, you don't need to buy additional credit for testing).

Those things do change with countries :-)

Yeah, it's all about marketing etc. Whilst on the subject - has anyone tried working with a UMTS stick with a pay-as-you-go or prepaid card?

I use a "3" UMTS pay as you go stick the only problem i get is the darn DNS settings but that is just a quick hack and done i use UMTSMON the only thing i have come against is it has to be "run as root" from my user else i get loads of ppp errors (all down to permissions and groups but i cant find the right combo yet and not had any luck on here either . Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 2 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.30-rc6-git3-4- default KDE: 4.2.86 (KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090514)) "release 1" 08:23 up 13 days 20:05, 3 users, load average: 0.19, 0.06, 0.01

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 09:46, Per Jessen wrote:

Pete, is your UMTS stick "locked" to your provider or can you chose any provider? C, same question for you.

I can "roam" on other providers using the same SIM. I haven't tried swapping in a different SIM from another provider... C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Next step for me is to update the openSUSE Wiki entry I suppose.

I've added a draft page to the openSUSE wiki (and linked it from the main page on UMTS). http://en.opensuse.org/ZTE_K3565-Z_UMTS_USB_Stick I can add more info later today... maybe screencaps of the applet? Not 100% sure on that part since it's vendor specific (ie Vodafone), but it might help people decide on a UMTS stick that is known to work if they have an idea what the Vodafone applet looks like? C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 16:33, Bogdan Cristea wrote:

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There has been already a topic about this issue some time ago in the same list.

Yes, I saw it in my searching... but that covers a different manufacturer type than the one I have, plus the USB stick is IDed and appears to be "working" - I can get it to switch into modem mode and at least initiate the connection to my provider.. it never completes.

...

In openSUSE 11.2 I am using wvdial to connect to my Internet provider. You need to configure your modem using wvdia.conf file and also to add the

Using wvdial is... OK if it was just me using this computer... but I have to get it working for non-techie users who will not be able to deal with running CLI stuff. I'm kinda hoping that since the network manager finds the USB Stick, and at least attempts to dial out with it, that I'll get it working... maybe.

C.

I have a Novatel U760 working with 10.3 and 11.2 but very differently... I use Kinternet and smpppd. I am going to try Kppp on 11.2 since that seems a bit more versatile. The modem is configured to dial #777, which seems to be the only number to use, AFAICT. In the States, at least. dhcp is used so there is no need to set up IP and DNS. That is probably universal. Try using dhcp. You can also save time connecting by setting StupidMode to "yes" in the configuration file or the dialer will wait a while for a prompt that will never come. I used YAST to configure the device and the file appears in the /etc/sysconfig/network directory. It seems YAST cannot set StupidMode so the configuration has to be edited manually. There are udev rules that cover these broadband modems but the associated kernel module(s) and binaries don't work as expected. Not here, at least. In 11.2, the hso module loads per udev rules but it does not recognize the device. It seems that the device ID is hard coded into the module, as well as in the option module. The device is recognized by the option module but only in 11.2. No idea why the device ID's /have/ to be hard coded. They can be given as an option to usbserial. I patched the option module in 10.3 and added the device ID but it is still not recognized. Also ozerocdoff, which is in 11.2, is supposed to disable the ZeroCD device but cannot find it so I use eject instead. I'm not really sure that the associated hal rules work well, if at all. I'm still working on this thing. I've only had this device since Sunday and I'm finding out more as I go along. Some things I've found is that much of the how-to info available doesn't quite work so I've been guessing most of the time. == jd There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress. -- Mark Twain - -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFL4b/shpL3F+HeDrIRArXkAJ0bofw32wA1WxvvLyKK+idioX/85gCgoIi7 fbxSKpDNYmqQpy6yMJMTyos= =60ii -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org