[opensuse] forum nntp server down?
I'm seeing 'connection refused' from nntp.opensuse.org, and 100% packet loss from ping. Does anybody know what the problem is? Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 09:25:21AM +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:
I'm seeing 'connection refused' from nntp.opensuse.org, and 100% packet loss from ping. Does anybody know what the problem is?
The forums are currently moved to different hosts, perhaps this is related. Ciao, marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/28/2013 04:43 PM, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 09:25:21AM +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:
I'm seeing 'connection refused' from nntp.opensuse.org, and 100% packet loss from ping. Does anybody know what the problem is? The forums are currently moved to different hosts, perhaps this is related.
Ciao, marcus This was posted in the headers of the forums earlier:
Forum Outage Status Report Due to an unexpected issue, we've had to restore our database from a few days ago. As a result, if you posted in the past couple days, your post is not presently in the forum. As we work towards full recovery, we expect the missing messages to be restored from our NNTP servers which are still experiencing problems so they remain offline. Thank you for your patience. -- George Olson Box #1: 12.3 | KDE 4.10 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | ATI Radeon HD 3300 | 16GB Box #2: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.2 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB Laptop: 12.3 | KDE 4.10 | Core i7-2620M | 64 | Intel HD Graphics 3000 | 8GB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2013-08-28 a las 18:40 +0800, George Olson (SUSE list) escribió:
This was posted in the headers of the forums earlier:
It should have been in the news link, I looked there first. Then, as I was looking for a place to ask the question, I found it.
Forum Outage Status Report
Due to an unexpected issue, we've had to restore our database from a few days ago. As a result, if you posted in the past couple days, your post is not presently in the forum. As we work towards full recovery, we expect the missing messages to be restored from our NNTP servers which are still experiencing problems so they remain offline. Thank you for your patience.
https://forums.opensuse.org/english/other-forums/forums-feedback/announcemen... - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlId3O8ACgkQja8UbcUWM1ybZwD8C/uuMYFyr+ybK7ewqVeJc2FH cj94f7KRTzQwfLaJ7XgA/0FmU5vyULRyaJSfkeapFDR1SnJ4D0jE+HtewrpjDikz =3E+i -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2013-08-28 a las 13:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. escribió:
El 2013-08-28 a las 18:40 +0800, George Olson (SUSE list) escribió:
NNTP servers which are still experiencing problems so they remain offline. Thank you for your patience.
One is online, with the wrong welcome message: <7.6> 2013-08-28 20:14:05 minas-tirith fetchnews 8462 - - nntp.opensuse.org: connected to 130.57.2.19:119, reply: 200 <7.7> 2013-08-28 20:14:05 minas-tirith fetchnews 8462 - - >MODE READER <7.7> 2013-08-28 20:14:06 minas-tirith fetchnews 8462 - - <200 Welcome to forums.novell.com! (Typhoon v2.1.2.394) The other remains offline: <7.4> 2013-08-28 20:14:19 minas-tirith fetchnews 8462 - - warning: nntp.novell.com: connection to 130.57.4.24 failed: Connection refused And two posts (nntp only) came through; one mine (written yesterday, posted now), another a reply to it. Ie, two posts were posted just now. None came from the web side of things. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlIeQR4ACgkQja8UbcUWM1xghgD/fiX/4sM0lJiO9FQW6kRkL7nd gXYIq+j0iWZRDvDIST0A+wS80OJsIK1qz8hXvAAcc2UGNXSAi2u5BWCeUWVQHWAh =J34I -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:25:21 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:
I'm seeing 'connection refused' from nntp.opensuse.org, and 100% packet loss from ping. Does anybody know what the problem is?
The forums' web interface was hacked a few days ago, and needed to be restored from backup as it appeared the database had been compromised. I don't know all the details of the hack used, but it may have been similar to he Ubuntu forums hack from a few weeks ago - with a few significant differences: 1. User passwords were not compromised. Unlike the Ubuntu forums, we don't store user passwords in the forum database - Access Manager handles our authentication and doesn't expose user passwords. As a result, the 70,000+ users who have forum accounts do /not/ need to reset their passwords - though if they want to, they certainly can. 2. Because we provide an NNTP interface that's fed by a gateway, restoring the database from Friday or Saturday should not result in a significant loss of messages. Messages that traverse the gateway are recorded in the database, and if the record isn't there, the gateway picks up the message on the NNTP side and feeds it back to the web side. While there's a chance it may miss some messages, we're pretty confident that at most we may lose 10 minutes of messages from right before the forums were turned off yesterday morning (around 11 AM MDT). Messages that are repopulated will receive new timestamps, so while there will appear to be a "hole" in the posting dates, the content is the important thing, and that should all be preserved. 3. Our outage lasted less than 24 hours total (NNTP took a little longer to get back online because of a license issue that came up due to a change in hardware). We discovered the forums had been compromised Monday night around 10:00 PM MDT; the web forums were shut down at 11:00 AM MDT yesterday morning to start restoring (between the discovery and the decision to shut them down, the issues were being investigated by IS&T). The hosts were moved to a different network during the recovery process, so the servers' IP addresses will have changed. If you're for some reason using a local hosts file entry, you'll want to update it (or just use DNS instead) to the new addresses. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2013-08-28 a las 21:06 -0000, Jim Henderson escribió:
The forums' web interface was hacked a few days ago, and needed to be
Oh :-(
2. Because we provide an NNTP interface that's fed by a gateway, restoring the database from Friday or Saturday should not result in a significant loss of messages.
I see some duplicate messages on nntp. Messages that were sent the 26th
apear again now. One is tittled "Upcoming openSUSE 13.1 will be kept
Evergreen", opensuse-news group.
X-Trace: kozak.provo.novell.com 1377510962 137.65.225.252 (Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:56:02 MDT)
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On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 23:19:45 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I see some duplicate messages on nntp. Messages that were sent the 26th apear again now. One is tittled "Upcoming openSUSE 13.1 will be kept Evergreen", opensuse-news group.
Thanks for the info on the duplicate messages. We'll keep an eye on it - it's possible that there could be a few, but it shouldn't be many. Anything that went through between the time of the backup that was restored and the next run may be duplicated, but I don't expect much more than that. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2013-08-28 at 21:45 -0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 23:19:45 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I see some duplicate messages on nntp. Messages that were sent the 26th apear again now. One is tittled "Upcoming openSUSE 13.1 will be kept Evergreen", opensuse-news group.
Thanks for the info on the duplicate messages. We'll keep an eye on it - it's possible that there could be a few, but it shouldn't be many. Anything that went through between the time of the backup that was restored and the next run may be duplicated, but I don't expect much more than that.
I have not looked thorughly for them, just saw that one fast because they were right one by the other. I'll have a look later. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIfAjcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VH7ACfaf6SvOSraMTkLIKChUdWNaa7 l5sAn3CZNQ9kzFgX902cdB0THyWXwqO6 =3yZX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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