[SLE] Install linux on Sun Enterprise Server 420R

Hipolito A. Gonzalez M.

8 Jun 2006 8 Jun '06

20:31

Is any linux distribution available for the computer? Is 4 proccesador computer RISC What king of processor is? Thank you -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

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rudolf

8 Jun 8 Jun

23:47

On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 16:31 -0400, Hipolito A. Gonzalez M. wrote:

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Is any linux distribution available for the computer?

Is 4 proccesador computer RISC

What king of processor is?

Thank you

The processors are SPARC processors. Gentoo (www.gentoo.org) and Debian (www.debian.org) are two distributions you can use. Rudolf -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Bryan J. Smith

9 Jun 9 Jun

01:44

New subject: [SLE] Install linux on Sun Enterprise Server 420R -- UltraSPARC-II

On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 16:31 -0400, Hipolito A. Gonzalez M. wrote:

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Is any linux distribution available for the computer? Is 4 proccesador computer RISC What king of processor is?

Calling it a RISC is like calling Intel a CISC, even though the lines aren't very well defined anyway. I.e., the terms are rather abstract/academic. Sun uses SPARC, SPARCv9 or UltraSPARC to be exact since the mid-'90s. SPARCv9 is a 64-bit implementation. SPARC's heritage goes back to the original Berkeley RISC -- the first of two early RISC designs, the other being Stanford MIPS. [ A bit of irony, the company named after the "Stanford University Network" (SUN) promotes SPARC, descended from Berkeley RISC, not Stanford MIPS. Although Sun, like everyone else, used MIPS -- and almost standardized on it -- until the early '90s (which the "great split" occurred -- Digital and Intel to Alpha, IBM and Motorola to Power and PowerPC, Sun continued with SPARC, etc... ] The UE220R is an UltraSPARC II platform, using a 100-120MHz UPA interconnect -- processors running at either 360MHz (120MHz UPA) or 450MHz (112.5MHz UPA). Since it's only 2-way, it's a bus, not a full crossbar UPA. But it does have 64-bit PCI slots spread over multiple PCI busses (including one at 66MHz), so it does make a nice server with some serious I/O that still smacks 99% of PCs silly in the I/O realm. As much as your initial preference might be to run to Linux, Solaris does have many advantages -- especially on SPARC platforms. GNU/Linux is much like Solaris in many ways, so it's not difficult to learn. -- Bryan J. Smith Professional, technical annoyance mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------- Illegal Immigration = "Representation Without Taxation" -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

James Knott

02:18

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Bryan J. Smith wrote:

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[ A bit of irony, the company named after the "Stanford University Network" (SUN) promotes SPARC, descended from Berkeley RISC, not Stanford MIPS. Although Sun, like everyone else, used MIPS -- and almost standardized on it -- until the early '90s (which the "great split" occurred -- Digital and Intel to Alpha, IBM and Motorola to Power and PowerPC, Sun continued with SPARC, etc... ]

I thought the early Suns were built on Motorola 68000 series CPUs, until the Sparcs came out, though they also had a 386 model. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Bryan J. Smith

12:08

New subject: [SLE] Install linux on Sun Enterprise Server 420R -- UltraSPARC-II

On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 22:18 -0400, James Knott wrote:

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I thought the early Suns were built on Motorola 68000 series CPUs, until the Sparcs came out, though they also had a 386 model.

Actually, they had both 68000 and 386 models, as well as toyed with MIPS in a few models and prototypes. They weren't as dedicated to MIPS and Digital, IBM and others when it came to their workstations -- but they all attended several industry meetings on standardizing around MIPS at one point. I guess I over-simplified there -- my apologies. -- Bryan J. Smith Professional, technical annoyance mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------- Illegal Immigration = "Representation Without Taxation" -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Matt Standish

10 Jun 10 Jun

02:03

New subject: [SLE] Install linux on Sun Enterprise Server 420R -- UltraSPARC-II

On 6/8/06, Bryan J. Smith wrote:

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On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 16:31 -0400, Hipolito A. Gonzalez M. wrote:

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Is any linux distribution available for the computer? Is 4 proccesador computer RISC What king of processor is?

SuSE used to have a sweet sparc32 and sparc64 port back in the 7.1 days. Now sparc on linux is stuck on Gentoo or Debian. If anyone would like to revive that project I could help test. I have a some Sun boxen laying around. -- Matt Standish MSN Messenger: mps_@hotmail.com Yahoo Messenger: mattstandish@yahoo.com Google Talk: mstandish -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Hipolito A. Gonzalez M.

12 Jun 12 Jun

15:28

New subject: [SLE] Install linux on Sun Enterprise Server 420R -- UltraSPARC-II

Bryan J. Smith wrote:

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On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 16:31 -0400, Hipolito A. Gonzalez M. wrote:

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Is any linux distribution available for the computer? Is 4 proccesador computer RISC What king of processor is?

Calling it a RISC is like calling Intel a CISC, even though the lines aren't very well defined anyway. I.e., the terms are rather abstract/academic.

Sun uses SPARC, SPARCv9 or UltraSPARC to be exact since the mid-'90s. SPARCv9 is a 64-bit implementation. SPARC's heritage goes back to the original Berkeley RISC -- the first of two early RISC designs, the other being Stanford MIPS.

[ A bit of irony, the company named after the "Stanford University Network" (SUN) promotes SPARC, descended from Berkeley RISC, not Stanford MIPS. Although Sun, like everyone else, used MIPS -- and almost standardized on it -- until the early '90s (which the "great split" occurred -- Digital and Intel to Alpha, IBM and Motorola to Power and PowerPC, Sun continued with SPARC, etc... ]

The UE220R is an UltraSPARC II platform, using a 100-120MHz UPA interconnect -- processors running at either 360MHz (120MHz UPA) or 450MHz (112.5MHz UPA). Since it's only 2-way, it's a bus, not a full crossbar UPA. But it does have 64-bit PCI slots spread over multiple PCI busses (including one at 66MHz), so it does make a nice server with some serious I/O that still smacks 99% of PCs silly in the I/O realm.

As much as your initial preference might be to run to Linux, Solaris does have many advantages -- especially on SPARC platforms. GNU/Linux is much like Solaris in many ways, so it's not difficult to learn.

Ok, the problem is that in Venezuela the goverment said: All public institution must use LINUX. Is not my problem is you have development in closed plataform, you will use linux. Some institutions are migrating, the IVIC (cientific Venezuelan Institute) has a Sun Enterprise 420R. UltraSparc II. They need to move to linux or put in the trash the computer. What can i do? I only help them. Is any linux distribution suitable? Thank you -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Bryan J. Smith

16:06

New subject: [SLE] Install linux on Sun Enterprise Server 420R -- UltraSPARC-II

On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 11:28 -0400, Hipolito A. Gonzalez M. wrote:

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Ok, the problem is that in Venezuela the goverment said: All public institution must use LINUX. Is not my problem is you have development in closed plataform, you will use linux. Some institutions are migrating, the IVIC (cientific Venezuelan Institute) has a Sun Enterprise 420R. UltraSparc II. They need to move to linux or put in the trash the computer.

Huh? SPARC/Solaris is an _open_ platform. Sun has contributed _heavily_ to IETF standards that Linux now uses, and that includes _major_ contributions to the Linux kernel (even more than IBM -- don't get me started). I am very much strongly _for_ mandating "open standards." But I am very much strongly _against_ mandating "open source." Choice is the key difference. "Open source" is _not_always_ the best "open standard." In fact, some "open source" can be downright eccentric. -- Bryan J. Smith Professional, technical annoyance mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------- Illegal Immigration = "Representation Without Taxation" -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Hipolito A. Gonzalez M.

21:15

New subject: [SLE] Install linux on Sun Enterprise Server 420R -- UltraSPARC-II

Bryan J. Smith wrote:

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On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 11:28 -0400, Hipolito A. Gonzalez M. wrote:

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Ok, the problem is that in Venezuela the goverment said: All public institution must use LINUX. Is not my problem is you have development in closed plataform, you will use linux. Some institutions are migrating, the IVIC (cientific Venezuelan Institute) has a Sun Enterprise 420R. UltraSparc II. They need to move to linux or put in the trash the computer.

Huh? SPARC/Solaris is an _open_ platform. Sun has contributed _heavily_ to IETF standards that Linux now uses, and that includes _major_ contributions to the Linux kernel (even more than IBM -- don't get me started).

I am very much strongly _for_ mandating "open standards." But I am very much strongly _against_ mandating "open source."

Choice is the key difference.

"Open source" is _not_always_ the best "open standard." In fact, some "open source" can be downright eccentric.

I know, I know! But here the goverment is stupid! :( Please, don't speak about the communist goverment here :( But a little word: The goverment is vs all fom AMERICAN -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Ryouga Hibiki

13 Jun 13 Jun

14:30

New subject: [SLE] Install linux on Sun Enterprise Server 420R -- UltraSPARC-II

Have you seen this: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/ Sun opened his Solaris source, so now is up to you to try here you can have a look for Sparc capable linux distro's http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html just change the platform to Sparc second... Venezuela should adequate technology to their needs something like China, which is also working hard on technology independence, 180º changes won't deliver total happiness Carlos A. PS: tan solo me pregunto cuanto durara su presidente, que hay muchos problemas en America Latina no? y como el librito de Fukuyama, la democracia es la aspiracion del hombre ^^; (El ultimo hombre y el fin de la historia) Saludos desde Peru

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From: "Hipolito A. Gonzalez M." Reply-To: hgonzale@cantv.net To: "Bryan J. Smith" CC: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Install linux on Sun Enterprise Server 420R -- UltraSPARC-II Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:15:15 -0400

Bryan J. Smith wrote:

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On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 11:28 -0400, Hipolito A. Gonzalez M. wrote:

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Ok, the problem is that in Venezuela the goverment said: All public institution must use LINUX. Is not my problem is you have development in closed plataform, you will use linux. Some institutions are migrating, the IVIC (cientific Venezuelan Institute) has a Sun Enterprise 420R. UltraSparc II. They need to move to linux or put in the trash the computer.

Huh? SPARC/Solaris is an _open_ platform. Sun has contributed _heavily_ to IETF standards that Linux now uses, and that includes _major_ contributions to the Linux kernel (even more than IBM -- don't get me started).

I am very much strongly _for_ mandating "open standards." But I am very much strongly _against_ mandating "open source."

Choice is the key difference.

"Open source" is _not_always_ the best "open standard." In fact, some "open source" can be downright eccentric.

I know, I know! But here the goverment is stupid! :( Please, don't speak about the communist goverment here :( But a little word: The goverment is vs all fom AMERICAN

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