Ok experienced laptop users, Installed SuSE 10.0 on this laptop successfully and everything seems to get along quite well. I only seem to have two problems with it thus far. Sound and winmodem. I still believe the sound is hardware related and just needs to be turned on some way. It's looking like that may only be accomplished via software though in WinXP. The modem sets up as /dev/ttySL0, but will not dial out. I get the error: pppd (0) died: pppd options error (exit code 2). I haven't yet tested with minicom, but will do that before giving up on it. Too bad these folks don't have broadband yet, the ethernet port works great! Anyway, any help, thoughts or suggestions are welcomed in getting everything working on this monster. I really would like to convert these folks to Linux. TIA, Lee
On Sunday 12 February 2006 13:17, BandiPat wrote:
Ok experienced laptop users,
Installed SuSE 10.0 on this laptop successfully and everything seems to get along quite well. I only seem to have two problems with it thus far. Sound and winmodem. I still believe the sound is hardware related and just needs to be turned on some way. It's looking like that may only be accomplished via software though in WinXP.
The modem sets up as /dev/ttySL0, but will not dial out. I get the error: pppd (0) died: pppd options error (exit code 2). I haven't yet tested with minicom, but will do that before giving up on it. Too bad these folks don't have broadband yet, the ethernet port works great!
Anyway, any help, thoughts or suggestions are welcomed in getting everything working on this monster. I really would like to convert these folks to Linux.
TIA, Lee
Any idea what chips the modem uses? I think at linmodems.org you can find a script that will find out the chips for you. At least there used to be one there. That's the place to start. Beyond that there may be some things you have to stand on your head to do.... on my thinkpad, there was a speical module to build and load (slamr) and the modem was then /dev/ttySL0 Once you find the chipset for it, you will probably find the answer.
On Sunday 12 February 2006 13:45, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Sunday 12 February 2006 13:17, BandiPat wrote:
Ok experienced laptop users,
Installed SuSE 10.0 on this laptop successfully and everything seems to get along quite well. I only seem to have two problems with it thus far. Sound and winmodem. I still believe the sound is hardware related and just needs to be turned on some way. It's looking like that may only be accomplished via software though in WinXP.
The modem sets up as /dev/ttySL0, but will not dial out. I get the error: pppd (0) died: pppd options error (exit code 2). I haven't yet tested with minicom, but will do that before giving up on it. Too bad these folks don't have broadband yet, the ethernet port works great!
Anyway, any help, thoughts or suggestions are welcomed in getting everything working on this monster. I really would like to convert these folks to Linux.
TIA, Lee
Any idea what chips the modem uses? I think at linmodems.org you can find a script that will find out the chips for you. At least there used to be one there.
That's the place to start. Beyond that there may be some things you have to stand on your head to do.... on my thinkpad, there was a speical module to build and load (slamr) and the modem was then /dev/ttySL0
Once you find the chipset for it, you will probably find the answer. ========
It's Intel Bruce. I don't remember the exact description, but it's certainly Intel. Hmm, what a pain these things become. May be the same module that is needed for this one. Are you running 10 on the Thinkpad? I didn't find a /dev/ttySL0, so tried ttyS0-S4 with different results, got a code 8 from kinternet with those. Minicom just didn't do anything, since it wasn't talking with the modem. The joy of laptops. Lee
On Sunday 12 February 2006 14:29, BandiPat wrote:
It's Intel Bruce. I don't remember the exact description, but it's certainly Intel. Hmm, what a pain these things become. May be the same module that is needed for this one. Are you running 10 on the Thinkpad? I didn't find a /dev/ttySL0, so tried ttyS0-S4 with different results, got a code 8 from kinternet with those. Minicom just didn't do anything, since it wasn't talking with the modem.
Here's the link for the modem checking utility. It should be able to tell you what chips are being used. http://132.68.73.235/linmodems/index.html#scanmodem
On Sunday 12 February 2006 14:36, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Sunday 12 February 2006 14:29, BandiPat wrote:
It's Intel Bruce. I don't remember the exact description, but it's certainly Intel. Hmm, what a pain these things become. May be the same module that is needed for this one. Are you running 10 on the Thinkpad? I didn't find a /dev/ttySL0, so tried ttyS0-S4 with different results, got a code 8 from kinternet with those. Minicom just didn't do anything, since it wasn't talking with the modem.
Here's the link for the modem checking utility. It should be able to tell you what chips are being used.
http://132.68.73.235/linmodems/index.html#scanmodem ===========
Thanks Bruce, I am investigating this now and will return with some info. Finally got a tech support person to enlighten me about the audio though. Seems there is no hardware control over the audio or speakers on this unit. Everything is controlled via software drivers made for Windows. I doubt anyone has built anything for Linux in regards to that. I wonder if installing the driver via Wine would suffice? I'll send the scanModem text directly to you. Lee
On Sunday 12 February 2006 16:06, BandiPat wrote:
Thanks Bruce, I am investigating this now and will return with some info. Finally got a tech support person to enlighten me about the audio though. Seems there is no hardware control over the audio or speakers on this unit. Everything is controlled via software drivers made for Windows. I doubt anyone has built anything for Linux in regards to that. I wonder if installing the driver via Wine would suffice?
I really think that Linux can handle the audio. A quick google for "linux Gateway M520" brought this up at the top of the list: ================================================= i810 chipsets are horrid chipsets.. I've had no end of problems trying to get ANY os using those things. I had an i810 in a compaq desk pro en at work and I had to compile CVS releases (to get fixes now in 1.0.7 and up) of alsa just to get the sound to correctly pipe out the external speaker jack instead of the internal Speaker.. If you want to get sound on the i810 w/ WBEL/CentOS you will need to download, compile, and install Alsa from alsa-project.org the latest release should work perfectly with i810 on that laptop. ============================================== Now this was dated a year ago.... so the Alsa in 10.0 should do the trick. If you're running something older, you could go get the latest alsa libs and drivers. Installing them isn't a big job.
On Sunday 12 February 2006 16:15, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Sunday 12 February 2006 16:06, BandiPat wrote:
Thanks Bruce, I am investigating this now and will return with some info. Finally got a tech support person to enlighten me about the audio though. Seems there is no hardware control over the audio or speakers on this unit. Everything is controlled via software drivers made for Windows. I doubt anyone has built anything for Linux in regards to that. I wonder if installing the driver via Wine would suffice?
I really think that Linux can handle the audio.
A quick google for "linux Gateway M520" brought this up at the top of the list:
================================================= i810 chipsets are horrid chipsets.. I've had no end of problems trying to get ANY os using those things. I had an i810 in a compaq desk pro en at work and I had to compile CVS releases (to get fixes now in 1.0.7 and up) of alsa just to get the sound to correctly pipe out the external speaker jack instead of the internal Speaker..
If you want to get sound on the i810 w/ WBEL/CentOS you will need to download, compile, and install Alsa from alsa-project.org the latest release should work perfectly with i810 on that laptop. ==============================================
Now this was dated a year ago.... so the Alsa in 10.0 should do the trick. If you're running something older, you could go get the latest alsa libs and drivers. Installing them isn't a big job. ========= Running lSuSE 10.0, so the alsa is indeed up to date for this task.
Yes, I've already been there! I've googled my heart out about it, but have yet to find anything worthwhile for this laptop. As I mentioned, I think Linux has the sound working, but not being able to activate the speakers via hardware, makes it near impossible. As I mentioned, I might try using wine for the windows drivers just to test, unless another user here with that same model has news about how to get it going under Linux. Thanks for the investigation though. Lee
On Sunday 12 February 2006 17:01, BandiPat wrote:
Yes, I've already been there! I've googled my heart out about it, but have yet to find anything worthwhile for this laptop. As I mentioned, I think Linux has the sound working, but not being able to activate the speakers via hardware, makes it near impossible. As I mentioned, I might try using wine for the windows drivers just to test, unless another user here with that same model has news about how to get it going under Linux.
Again, further search with google finds people running that sound chipset with no problem. Have you run alsaconf? Checked all of the sound mixers for something muted? (you're going to slap your forehead when you find the problem... I guarantee.. <g>)
On Sunday 12 February 2006 17:42, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Sunday 12 February 2006 17:01, BandiPat wrote:
Yes, I've already been there! I've googled my heart out about it, but have yet to find anything worthwhile for this laptop. As I mentioned, I think Linux has the sound working, but not being able to activate the speakers via hardware, makes it near impossible. As I mentioned, I might try using wine for the windows drivers just to test, unless another user here with that same model has news about how to get it going under Linux.
Again, further search with google finds people running that sound chipset with no problem.
Have you run alsaconf? Checked all of the sound mixers for something muted?
(you're going to slap your forehead when you find the problem... I guarantee.. <g>) =========
Maybe, but so far, the only forehead I'd like to slap is several people at Intel. That and maybe the dummy that created AC97 anything! Yes, to answer your question, I have done all that and more. Lee
On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 14:36 -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Sunday 12 February 2006 14:29, BandiPat wrote:
It's Intel Bruce. I don't remember the exact description, but it's certainly Intel. Hmm, what a pain these things become. May be the same module that is needed for this one. Are you running 10 on the Thinkpad? I didn't find a /dev/ttySL0, so tried ttyS0-S4 with different results, got a code 8 from kinternet with those. Minicom just didn't do anything, since it wasn't talking with the modem.
Here's the link for the modem checking utility. It should be able to tell you what chips are being used.
How nice it is to have a Diamond Supra External it just works. It would be nice to know the chip set for curiosity and HylaFax sake. Does this program work with external modems? -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/
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