On 6/1/06, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

That's correct, it's already added.

Then what to do now, to get the updates itself ?

/Erik

#smart update This is going to refresh the repository cache on your machine #smart upgrade this will upgrade all the packages needed. you can also use: #smart install <packagename> #smart remove <packagename> -- -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Windows is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit graphical shell for an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

GJE wrote:

Op donderdag 1 juni 2006 18:23, schreef Sunny:

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On 6/1/06, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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That's correct, it's already added.

Then what to do now, to get the updates itself ?

/Erik

#smart update This is going to refresh the repository cache on your machine

#smart upgrade this will upgrade all the packages needed.

you can also use: #smart install <packagename>

#smart remove <packagename>

-- -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny)

Windows is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit graphical shell for an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition.

Try this one smart --gui or maby you find the smart package manager in your kmenu, there you can conf. your channels and more....

Hi all folks, that is helping me with my KDE update. I have smart in my kmenu, but if I run the gui, it seems to run mad. I dont know how long time there will go now, but from a terminal the ongoing process look like this: smart upgrade Loading cache... Updating cache... ###################################################################################### [100%] Computing transaction... /Erik -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

GJE wrote:

I don't remember if i had that to the first time i use it.....maby.....? Just let it go for a wile.

Hello again. Smart is still showing "Computing transaction... " Has done so the whole afternoon and during the night. It's around12 hours. Think this is not ok ? /Erik -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On 6/2/06, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

I still have this running:

Updating cache... ###################################################################################### [100%]

Channels have 38 new packages. Computing transaction...

How can I get smart to carry on ?.

Now smart has standed such since last evening at 19:00 :-)

/Erik

If it was me, I would cancel it and run smart with more verbose output to see whats up. -- -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Windows is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit graphical shell for an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On 6/2/06, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

What verbose options can I use ?

#smart upgrade --log-level=debug This should output a lot of information what smart is doing, etc. -- -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Windows is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit graphical shell for an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On 6/2/06, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Sunny wrote:

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On 6/2/06, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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What verbose options can I use ?

#smart upgrade --log-level=debug

This should output a lot of information what smart is doing, etc.

It does that:

# smart upgrade --log-level=debug Loading cache... Updating cache... ###################################################################################### [100%]

Computing transaction...

/Erik

yeah, it does not output anything interesting on my machine either, but smart works just OK. I have 10.0 tvm (no Kde), smart version 0.41. -- -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Windows is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit graphical shell for an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Sunny wrote:

On 6/2/06, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Sunny wrote:

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On 6/2/06, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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What verbose options can I use ?

#smart upgrade --log-level=debug

This should output a lot of information what smart is doing, etc.

It does that:

# smart upgrade --log-level=debug Loading cache... Updating cache... ######################################################################################

[100%]

Computing transaction...

/Erik

yeah, it does not output anything interesting on my machine either, but smart works just OK. I have 10.0 tvm (no Kde), smart version 0.41.

At the time now, when I killed the smart update process, it showed me this: # smart upgrade --log-level=debug Loading cache... Updating cache... ###################################################################################### [100%] Computing transaction...Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/smart", line 167, in main exitcode = iface.run(opts.command, opts.argv) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/interface.py", line 53, in run result = _command.main(self._ctrl, opts) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/commands/upgrade.py", line 140, in main trans.run() File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 1119, in run self._upgrade(upgpkgs, changeset, locked, pending) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 890, in _upgrade self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 741, in _pending self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 845, in _pending self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 845, in _pending self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 845, in _pending self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 798, in _pending self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 798, in _pending self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 741, in _pending self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 741, in _pending self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 741, in _pending self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 845, in _pending self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 845, in _pending self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 798, in _pending self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 741, in _pending self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 862, in _pending self._updown(pkg, changeset, locked, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 680, in _updown self._pending(cs, lk, _pending, depth) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 849, in _pending alternatives.append((getweight(cs), cs, lk)) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart/transaction.py", line 368, in getWeight if changeset.get(lstpkg) is INSTALL: KeyboardInterrupt Is this info anhything, that can be usefull in finding the problem with my smart and SuSE10.0 ? -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Leendert Meyer wrote:

On Friday 02 June 2006 20:08, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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# smart upgrade --log-level=debug Loading cache... Updating cache...

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Is this info anhything, that can be usefull in finding the problem with my smart and SuSE10.0 ?

Not to me. You could try this:

rm /var/lib/smart/cache smart update

Does that work?

Cheers,

Leen

Thanks for the reply. I got this: # rm /var/lib/smart/cache lajka3:/var/spool/mail # smart update Updating cache... ###################################################################################### [100%] Fetching information for 'Latest KDE 3 enviroment for released SUSE distributions (SUSE_Linux_10.1)'... -> http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.1/repodata/rep... repomd.xml ###################################################################################### [ 4%] ---snip Updating cache... ###################################################################################### [100%] Channels have 3 new packages: cdparanoia-IIIalpha9.8-562.3@i586 pipemeter-1.1.0-1.guru.suse101@i686 pipemeter-debuginfo-1.1.0-1.guru.suse101@i686 Saving cache... lajka3:/var/spool/mail # smart upgrade Loading cache... Updating cache... ###################################################################################### [100%] Computing transaction...smart update /Erik -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Leendert Meyer wrote:

On Friday 02 June 2006 21:24, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Leendert Meyer wrote:

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On Friday 02 June 2006 20:08, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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# smart upgrade --log-level=debug Loading cache... Updating cache...

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Is this info anhything, that can be usefull in finding the problem with my smart and SuSE10.0 ?

Not to me. You could try this:

rm /var/lib/smart/cache smart update

Does that work?

Cheers,

Leen

Thanks for the reply.

I got this:

# rm /var/lib/smart/cache lajka3:/var/spool/mail # smart update Updating cache... ########################################################################### ########### [100%]

Fetching information for 'Latest KDE 3 enviroment for released SUSE distributions (SUSE_Linux_10.1)'... -> http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.1/repodata/re pomd.xml repomd.xml

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Computing transaction...smart update

Hmm, looks good to me.

Yes also to me, if the "Computing transaction...smart update" went off all had been good, but it didn't.

What does 'smart upgrade' do now?

Hanging as always.

If it still doesn't work, maybe it's time for a bit more force:

rm -r /var/lib/smart/* smart channel --add http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.1/KDE:KDE3.rep... smart update smart upgrade

Mind the line wrapping, "smart channel add http://...KDE3.repo" is 1 (one) line.

I did the above, and all went ok. Now it seems like smart again has gone in a circle: Updating cache... #################################################################################### [100%] Channels have 7835 new packages. Saving cache... lajka3:~ # smart upgrade Loading cache... Updating cache... #################################################################################### [100%] Computing transaction...

Cheers,

Leen

So Leen, it looks like its the same situation as all the other times. Does it mean anything, that I'm trying to use 10.1 stuff for 10.0 retail ? /Erik -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Carl Hartung wrote:

On Saturday 03 June 2006 00:53, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Does it mean anything, that I'm trying to use 10.1 stuff for 10.0 retail ?

Hi Erik,

Why are you trying this? I don't think this is going to work, Erik.

If you want 10.1, install 10.1. If you want to upgrade 10.0 to 10.1 (as opposed to installing 'fresh',) at least try doing so using the 10.1 installation DVD. You're asking for trouble if you're trying to upgrade the system while it's running.

regards,

Carl

Nor do I think it will succeed Carl. But at the time for asking for help to install the new KDE 3.5.3, I couldn't find anything about it for 10.0, but there was for 10.1. I still haven't found the updates for KDE3.5.3 for SuSE 10.0. /Erik -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Leendert Meyer wrote:

Perhaps you didn't look hard enough:

http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.0/

*That* is what you need!

Fireup smart's GUI, and delete *all* 10.1 channels. As I could not find an easy way of adding a channel in the smart GUI, I say quit the GUI, and add the above 10.0 channel to smart. You must know by now how. Then try again.

:)

Cheers,

Leen

Maybe you are right Leen ;-) Thanks for the URL. Could I use this too ?. I have tried it, but it wouldn't succedd to add it : http://ftp.du.se/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/3.5.3/SuSE/SUSE_Linux_10.0/i586/ I deleted the 10.1 channels by use yast. /Erik -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Leendert Meyer wrote:

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I deleted the 10.1 channels by use yast.

YaST and smart are two different animals. However, "smart channel --show" would show you the current channels. You'll see if there are still 10.1 channels left. If they are, use the smart GUI to remove them. If you have installed the package 'smart-gui', you'll find it in KDE menu -> System -> Configuration. You can install 'smart-gui' with YaST, if needed.

Cheers,

Leen

All ok Leen. Now I'm installing the kde3.5.3 for my suse10.0. I'm using yast for it, and it seems to work ok. With that I hope it will continue the installation, and I want to say thansk for the help to all who have helped me. /Erik -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Leendert Meyer wrote:

On Saturday 03 June 2006 09:35, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Leendert Meyer wrote:

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I deleted the 10.1 channels by use yast.

YaST and smart are two different animals. However, "smart channel --show" would show you the current channels. You'll see if there are still 10.1 channels left. If they are, use the smart GUI to remove them. If you have installed the package 'smart-gui', you'll find it in KDE menu -> System -> Configuration. You can install 'smart-gui' with YaST, if needed.

Cheers,

Leen

All ok Leen. Now I'm installing the kde3.5.3 for my suse10.0. I'm using yast for it, and it seems to work ok.

Nice! Hmm, too bad you did not try to use smart for it. (See other msg).

I agree with you, but I have the problem, as you know, where the upgrade looks like all is ok, but it's not. Smart in upgrademode is hanging in a loop, and will not stop before I do a forced stop of the session.

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With that I hope it will continue the installation, and I want to say thansk for the help to all who have helped me.

You're welcome.

Sorry for the typo ;-) /Erik -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Leendert Meyer wrote:

On Saturday 03 June 2006 09:52, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Leendert Meyer wrote:

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On Saturday 03 June 2006 09:35, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Leendert Meyer wrote:

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I deleted the 10.1 channels by use yast.

YaST and smart are two different animals. However, "smart channel --show" would show you the current channels. You'll see if there are still 10.1 channels left. If they are, use the smart GUI to remove them. If you have installed the package 'smart-gui', you'll find it in KDE menu -> System -> Configuration. You can install 'smart-gui' with YaST, if needed.

Cheers,

Leen

All ok Leen. Now I'm installing the kde3.5.3 for my suse10.0. I'm using yast for it, and it seems to work ok.

Nice! Hmm, too bad you did not try to use smart for it. (See other msg).

I agree with you, but I have the problem, as you know, where the upgrade looks like all is ok, but it's not. Smart in upgrademode is hanging in a loop, and will not stop before I do a forced stop of the session.

Yes, but that was with using wrong (10.1) channels on a 10.0 system.

Cheers,

Leen

Quite right, but for that it's a bit too late. But I'll give it a try later on, and as mentioned in another msg., I'll keep you informed. /Erik -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On 6/3/06, Leendert Meyer wrote:

Sorry to inform you this way, but I can't send email to your private mail address. My emails get classified as spam. I even got a SPAM-ID: 05448897. Perhaps because I'm behind a router?

Leen, looks like there is problem with your email. Most probably it is included in some public blacklist or something. All mails sent by you are put in the spam folder on my gmail account, and I did not force it. You should try to investigate it. Cheers -- -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Windows is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit graphical shell for an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On Tuesday 06 June 2006 15:45, Sunny wrote:

On 6/3/06, Leendert Meyer wrote:

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Sorry to inform you this way, but I can't send email to your private mail address. My emails get classified as spam. I even got a SPAM-ID: 05448897. Perhaps because I'm behind a router?

Leen, looks like there is problem with your email. Most probably it is included in some public blacklist or something. All mails sent by you are put in the spam folder on my gmail account, and I did not force it. You should try to investigate it.

I did notice a problem when sending mail to Erik. I did investigate a bit and did not think it was serious. But clearly it is. :( Thanks for telling me, I'll investigate deeper. :) Sunny: could you forward one of those "spam-emails" as an attachment to my private mail? Maybe there's some info in the headers that would help me... TIA Cheers, Leen -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On Saturday 03 June 2006 09:22, Leendert Meyer wrote:

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Thanks for the URL. Could I use this too ?. I have tried it, but it wouldn't succedd to add it :

http://ftp.du.se/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/3.5.3/SuSE/SUSE_Linux_10.0/i586/

Sorry, forgot to answer your question. ;) You need the .repo file: http://ftp.du.se/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/3.5.3/SuSE/SUSE_Linux_10.0/KDE:KDE3.... Add that as a channel to smart. Cheers, Leen -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On Saturday 03 June 2006 09:41, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Leendert Meyer wrote:

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On Saturday 03 June 2006 09:22, Leendert Meyer wrote:

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Thanks for the URL. Could I use this too ?. I have tried it, but it wouldn't succedd to add it :

http://ftp.du.se/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/3.5.3/SuSE/SUSE_Linux_10.0/i586 /

Sorry, forgot to answer your question. ;) You need the .repo file:

http://ftp.du.se/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/3.5.3/SuSE/SUSE_Linux_10.0/KDE:KD E3.repo

Add that as a channel to smart.

Thanks Leen. I enoutered that shortly after I wrote the message :-)

We know now that smart fails to use 10.1 channels on a 10.0 system (I'm not that surprised). But I'm curious if smart would work with the url above. Are you interested in trying that out? [You don't have to, if you don't want to ;) ] Cheers, Leen -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On Saturday 03 June 2006 09:55, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Leendert Meyer wrote:

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On Saturday 03 June 2006 09:41, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Leendert Meyer wrote:

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On Saturday 03 June 2006 09:22, Leendert Meyer wrote:

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Thanks for the URL. Could I use this too ?. I have tried it, but it wouldn't succedd to add it :

http://ftp.du.se/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/3.5.3/SuSE/SUSE_Linux_10.0/i5 86 /

Sorry, forgot to answer your question. ;) You need the .repo file:

http://ftp.du.se/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/3.5.3/SuSE/SUSE_Linux_10.0/KDE: KD E3.repo

Add that as a channel to smart.

Thanks Leen. I enoutered that shortly after I wrote the message :-)

We know now that smart fails to use 10.1 channels on a 10.0 system (I'm not that surprised). But I'm curious if smart would work with the url above. Are you interested in trying that out? [You don't have to, if you don't want to ;) ]

Cheers,

Leen

Well of course I'm interested, but I have fired up the upgrade of KDE using Yast.

I know. Let it just do its job. Try smart after it has finished. Cheers, Leen -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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I still haven't found the updates for KDE3.5.3 for SuSE 10.0.

http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.0/

Thansk old mate. /Erik -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com