On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 08:13:13 -0500, Serge Bromow wrote:

1) Edit /etc/inittab and change 5 to 3 as show below;

# The default runlevel is defined here id:3:initdefault:

Note that this doesn't apparently work on 12.1, as systemd uses a different method to set the default runlevel. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Am 06.12.2011 15:10, schrieb Anton Aylward:

Arun Khan said the following on 12/06/2011 08:51 AM:

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On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Andreas wrote:

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Hi,

how can I configure a headless X-Server ? The PC should provide graphical logins from outside, e.g. VNC, but it shouldn't change into graphic mode itself even in runlevel 5. VNC connection from a remote desktop should work with runlevel 3 on your system. Hardly even that. I have a headless Dell machine acting as a server under my desk. I can ssh to it and run GUI applications. No need for a (possibly insecure) VNC server running there.

What are you using as client? In my case it's Windows so VNC is an easy option. When I connect from outside the LAN I use a ssh tunnel so I expect to be fairly secure. On the other hand VNC is rather crap in details like where is the cursor in the text editor. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 09:30 -0500, zGreenfelder wrote:

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What are you using as client? In my case it's Windows so VNC is an easy option. When I connect from outside the LAN I use a ssh tunnel so I expect to be fairly secure. On the other hand VNC is rather crap in details like where is the cursor in the text editor.

there are quite a few windows ssh clients; putty works well but if you have admin authority and some extra space on the windows machine, it might be worth your while to look at cygwin. it basically creates a unix like environment under your windows instance. a little playing and tweaking and you'll even have native X on windows, allowing you to run applications from your headless machine but displayed on your windows machine.

I noticed on the openSUSE 12.1 install DVD, in dosutils/weirdx, lives an X server for, presumably, Windows. Not sure what it is there for. Or how one would use it. There are docs there for the curious. Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 12/6/2011 6:30 AM, zGreenfelder wrote:

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What are you using as client? In my case it's Windows so VNC is an easy option. When I connect from outside the LAN I use a ssh tunnel so I expect to be fairly secure. On the other hand VNC is rather crap in details like where is the cursor in the text editor.

there are quite a few windows ssh clients; putty works well but if you have admin authority and some extra space on the windows machine, it might be worth your while to look at cygwin. it basically creates a unix like environment under your windows instance. a little playing and tweaking and you'll even have native X on windows, allowing you to run applications from your headless machine but displayed on your windows machine.

I do not believe Putty contains an X server. Its a pure ssh client. If you want X, you have to add another application to your windows box. Google will find several for you. Including Xming. http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming/ -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* John Andersen [12-06-11 15:20]:

I do not believe Putty contains an X server. Its a pure ssh client. If you want X, you have to add another application to your windows box. Google will find several for you. Including Xming. http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming/

Putty *does* offer an X client: man putty: putty(1) PuTTY tool suite putty(1) NAME putty - GUI SSH, Telnet and Rlogin client for X -X, -x Enable (-X) or disable (-x) X11 forwarding. and, tested, works. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Putty *does* offer an X client:

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NAME       putty - GUI SSH, Telnet and Rlogin client for X

      -X, -x Enable (-X) or disable (-x) X11 forwarding.

and, tested, works. --

... are you certain it's not just forwarding to your local X server? I tried the windows implementation and it doesn't seem create it's own X server. it kinda looks from the man page that you're running putty on a unix/linux machine and might already have X running local? I'm pretty sure on tthe windows side you'd need something else to get all the X features, be it cygwin, exceed (do they even still exist?) or some other paid for or freeware server. -- Even the Magic 8 ball has an opinion on email clients: Outlook not so good. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Andreas wrote:

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I have a headless Dell machine acting as a server under my desk. I can ssh to it and run GUI applications. No need for a (possibly insecure) VNC server running there.

Hardly even that. What are you using as client? In my case it's Windows so VNC is an easy option. When I connect from outside the LAN I use a ssh tunnel so I expect to be fairly secure. On the other hand VNC is rather crap in details like where is the cursor in the text editor.

I normally use XDMCP, but, unfortunately, remote login is broken on 12.1 & KDE. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 12/06/2011 10:41 AM, Lars Müller wrote:

On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 10:01:36AM -0500, James Knott wrote: [ 8< ]

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I normally use XDMCP, but, unfortunately, remote login is broken on 12.1& KDE.

Please be this nice to quote the bug ID of the issue. Such cross referencing allow others to jump on the moving wagon if they got bitten by the same issue.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=715265 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org