RE: [SLE] Can't install 9.0 on a new box!
Are you using the CD boot disk to install off a network resource or are
you actually installing off a CD set? Are you doing a minimal install?
What package does it fail at?
Khanh Tran
Network Operations
Sarah Lawrence College
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred M.Sloniker [mailto:fizzit@pioneernet.net]
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 7:45 AM
To: suse-linux-e@suse.com
Subject: Re: [SLE] Can't install 9.0 on a new box!
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 22:22:51 -0500, "Joe Morris (NTM)"
Fred M.Sloniker wrote:
It also has a combo CD/DVD burner; no floppy drive, though.
I can remember some install problems related to combo drives. Try installing with the CDs instead of the DVD if this is the problem IIRC.
I am installing (trying to install) with the CDs; I don't have the DVD. (I could get it, though, if you think that's the problem.) Anybody else want to take a crack at this problem? -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 09:07:03 -0400, "Khanh Tran"
Are you using the CD boot disk to install off a network resource or are you actually installing off a CD set?
The latter.
Are you doing a minimal install? What package does it fail at?
It doesn't get that far. Pressing F2 to see the text after choosing to install (whether in safe mode or not) produces about a screen of output, then freezes. These are the last several lines: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15 ide2 at 0xefe0-0xefe7, 0xefae on irq 5 hda: attached ide-disk driver. hda: host protected area => 1 hda: 160836480 sectors (82348 MB) w/1794KiB Cache, CHS=10011/255/63, UDMA(100) hde: attached ide-disk driver. ...and then it just stops. Any help?
...and then it just stops. Any help? When I ran into strange install problems, I used F2 to get text mode install and then I chose manual install. I am no expert at
Fred M.Sloniker wrote: that but I was able to fake my way along and got it to install. Damon Register
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 17:53:40 -0400, Damon Register
When I ran into strange install problems, I used F2 to get text mode install and then I chose manual install. I am no expert at that but I was able to fake my way along and got it to install.
Damon Register
This actually helped me get Suse 9.1 installed on my Compaq Presario 3077wm! I had been trying since last Wed. to install and it kept freezing no matter what I was doing. I never thought about using text mode. I didn't have to use manual install though. thanks Walt
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 17:53:40 -0400, Damon Register
When I ran into strange install problems, I used F2 to get text mode install and then I chose manual install. I am no expert at that but I was able to fake my way along and got it to install.
I tried that, but the install stalled out at the same place: (The last several lines of output:) ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15 ide2 at 0xefe0-0xefe7, 0xefae on irq 5 hda: attached ide-disk driver. hda: host protected area => 1 hda: 160836480 sectors (82348 MB) w/1794KiB Cache, CHS=10011/255/63, UDMA(100) hde: attached ide-disk driver. And stop. BTW, I did discover some new (to me) information in the BIOS: my 80 gig drive is my primary master, while the DVD/CD drive is secondary master and the 120 gig drive is the tertiary master. I didn't know there was such a thing as a tertiary master. Should I be going in and jumpering it as the primary slave or something? Anybody else want to take a crack at this non-install problem?
* Fred M.Sloniker
hde: attached ide-disk driver.
And stop. BTW, I did discover some new (to me) information in the BIOS: my 80 gig drive is my primary master, while the DVD/CD drive is secondary master and the 120 gig drive is the tertiary master. I didn't know there was such a thing as a tertiary master. Should I be going in and jumpering it as the primary slave or something?
Anybody else want to take a crack at this non-install problem?
You might try two things. First, put the aux disk controller card into another slot. If that doesn't work, try installing w/o the aux card installed, and reinstall it after completeion. (if...). gud luk, :^) -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 22:17:57 -0500, Patrick Shanahan
You might try two things. First, put the aux disk controller card into another slot. If that doesn't work, try installing w/o the aux card installed, and reinstall it after completeion. (if...).
Er, I opened up my computer to try out this advice and found no aux disk controller card. Indeed, all three drives are cabled to the motherboard in various places. The ones for the 120 gig HD look completely unlike those the 80 gig HD has, though; I'm guessing it's not actually IDE, or at least it's a different kind of IDE. Or something. (Hardware isn't my strong suit.) Anybody else want to take a stab? I can repost all my info to date if you've lost track...
On Thursday 09 September 2004 03:33, Fred M.Sloniker wrote:
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 22:17:57 -0500, Patrick Shanahan
wrote: You might try two things. First, put the aux disk controller card into another slot. If that doesn't work, try installing w/o the aux card installed, and reinstall it after completeion. (if...).
Er, I opened up my computer to try out this advice and found no aux disk controller card. Indeed, all three drives are cabled to the motherboard in various places. The ones for the 120 gig HD look completely unlike those the 80 gig HD has, though; I'm guessing it's not actually IDE, or at least it's a different kind of IDE. Or something. (Hardware isn't my strong suit.)
Anybody else want to take a stab? I can repost all my info to date if you've lost track...
Since no-one's come back, I'll guess that it's a Serial ATA disk and controller, but since I've never seen an SATA system nor dealt with one it seems possible. Maybe post your motherboard details, and a description of the connectors and cables that attach the disk in question? Cheers Fergus -- Fergus Wilde Chetham's Library Long Millgate Manchester M3 1SB Tel: 0161 834 7961 Fax: 0161 839 5797 http://www.chethams.org.uk
On Thursday 09 September 2004 04:15, Fergus Wilde wrote:
On Thursday 09 September 2004 03:33, Fred M.Sloniker wrote: <SNIP> Since no-one's come back, I'll guess that it's a Serial ATA disk and controller, but since I've never seen an SATA system nor dealt with one it seems possible. Maybe post your motherboard details, and a description of the connectors and cables that attach the disk in question?
Cheers Fergus
-- Fergus Wilde Chetham's Library Long Millgate Manchester M3 1SB
Tel: 0161 834 7961 Fax: 0161 839 5797
http://www.chethams.org.uk Have you tried disabling one drive from BIOS? -- ..."Yogi" CH Namasté Yoga Studio "If music be the food of love, why can't rabbits sing?"
Fergus, On Thursday 09 September 2004 02:15, Fergus Wilde wrote:
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Since no-one's come back, I'll guess that it's a Serial ATA disk and controller, but since I've never seen an SATA system nor dealt with one it seems possible. Maybe post your motherboard details, and a description of the connectors and cables that attach the disk in question?
SATA (Serial ATA) cables are much smaller than IDE or SCSI cables (being serial, there are far fewer conductors) and they're not busses--intead of having multiple attachments (up to 16 for SCSI and two for IDE / ATA), they're point-to-point--there's only one disk per cable. The large picture of the red folded cables at the top of this page, http://www.macgurus.com/productpages/sata/SATACables.php, are SATA cables.
Cheers Fergus
Randall Schulz
Fergus Wilde wrote:
On Thursday 09 September 2004 03:33, Fred M.Sloniker wrote:
Anybody else want to take a stab? I can repost all my info to date if you've lost track... Since no-one's come back, I'll guess that it's a Serial ATA disk and controller, but since I've never seen an SATA system nor dealt with one it seems possible. Maybe post your motherboard details, and a description of the connectors and cables that attach the disk in question?
Yes, the ASUS P4P800S motherboard spec says: 2 x UltraDMA 100/66/33 Built-in ICH5 supports 2 x Serial ATA so it is a SATA problem. Suse 9.0 (or any other distro with a 2.4 kernel) won't fully support it. You can make it work (I've done it) by switching to what is known as 'legacy' mode in the BIOS. This makes the SATA drives appear as secondary IDE master and slave. So you need to move your CD into primary slave on the same chain as your primary master IDE drive, because you can't use any devices on the real secondary IDE chain whilst in legacy mode. You switch to legacy mode in the BIOS somewhere; I can't tell you where because I'm using an Intel BIOS. You also need to check the boot order of the drives - make sure the IDE/PATA drive is first (of the hard drives, after the CD drive :) Then hopefully it will install. I believe Suse 9.1 will support the system in 'enhanced' mode (I've just installed one) but I had trials and tribulations along the way. Search the list archives for sata in the subject. Cheers, Dave
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 16:46:27 +0100, Dave Howorth
Yes, the ASUS P4P800S motherboard spec says: 2 x UltraDMA 100/66/33 Built-in ICH5 supports 2 x Serial ATA so it is a SATA problem.
Ah. Progress.
Suse 9.0 (or any other distro with a 2.4 kernel) won't fully support it. You can make it work (I've done it) by switching to what is known as 'legacy' mode in the BIOS. This makes the SATA drives appear as secondary IDE master and slave.
I'll give this a shot. What problems am I likely to encounter by doing this, other than not having those secondary IDE slots available?
participants (9)
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C Hamel
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Damon Register
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Dave Howorth
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Fergus Wilde
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Fred M.Sloniker
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Khanh Tran
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Patrick Shanahan
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Randall R Schulz
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Walt Frampus