[SLE] Comments about the Reisersf system.
I put a quote from the Reisersf homepage below. I have two comments. 1) I love his metaphor comparing closed economies like corporations to a large communal group and open economies to the Linux development model. This is an especially poignant comment since it comes from people who have experienced the stiffling brutality of communism. 2) With the Terra byte disk not far away, why limit the system to 4.29 billion objects? Were there that many empty files it would still take 156GB+ just to store the names, and with an average of 1KB per file about 4.4TB. I believe that we will be seeing 50 - 250GB disk systems this year and possible 100-1000+ TB systems within five years unsing quantum technology. Consider that there are 6.8 billion people on the planet right now. That's almost twice as many objects as the current Reisersf allows. JLK Hans Reiser stated: "I believe it is not so much the cost that has made Linux so successful as it is the openness. Linux is a decentralized economy with honor and recognition as the currency of payment (and thus there is much honor in it). Commercial OS vendors are, at the moment, all closed economies, and doomed to fall in their competition with open economies just as communism eventually fell. At some point an OS vendor will realize that if it: - opens up its source code to decentralized modification, - systematically rewards those who perform the modifications that are proven useful, - systematically merges/integrates those modifications into its branded primary release branch while adding value as the integrator, - that it will acquire both the critical mass of the internet development community, and the aggressive edge that no large communal group (such as a corporation) can have. Rather than saying to any such vendor that they should do this now, let me simply point out that whoever is first will have an enormous advantage..... Since I have more recognition than money to pass around as reward, my policy is to tend to require that those who contribute substantial software to this project have their names attached to a user visible portion of the project. This official policy helps me deal with folks like Vladimir, who was much too modest to ever name the file system checker vsck without my insisting. Smaller contributions are to be noted in the source code, and the acknowledgements section of this paper. If you choose to contribute to this file system, and your work is accepted into the primary release, you should let me know if you want me to look for opportunities to integrate you into contracts from commercial vendors. Through packaging ourselves as a group, we are more marketable to such OS vendors. Many of us have spent too much time working at day jobs unrelated to our Linux work. This is too hard, and I hope to make things easier for us all. If you like this business model of selling GPL'd component software with related support services, but you write software not related to this file system, I encourage you to form a component supplier company also. Opportunities may arise for us to cooperate in our marketing, and I will be happy to do so." -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hey folks, I think I have a big problem.... I forgot my root password - I know it's stupid. But does anyone know how I can crack my one password??? Many thanks! Hopefully, Escubidera. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Boot of the SuSE 6.3 disk 2, goto 'rescuse system', mount the /root drive
edit the /etc/shadow file (so root has no password), reboot and login root
with no password, quickly change the password after that.
Jack
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From: J.S.Bach
Hey folks, I think I have a big problem.... I forgot my root password - I know it's stupid.
But does anyone know how I can crack my one password???
Many thanks! Hopefully, Escubidera.
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Hello, I'm curious. I went and took a look at the file /etc/shadow. Root had this info after it: root:kBcFyC8Ul4/tA:20456:0:12341:::: Note: I changed the characters. Anyhow, what would a person actually delete in this case? George On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, you wrote:
Boot of the SuSE 6.3 disk 2, goto 'rescuse system', mount the /root drive edit the /etc/shadow file (so root has no password), reboot and login root with no password, quickly change the password after that.
Jack
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Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 1:21 PM Subject: [SLE] PASSWORD Hey folks, I think I have a big problem.... I forgot my root password - I know it's stupid.
But does anyone know how I can crack my one password???
Many thanks! Hopefully, Escubidera.
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On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 09:31:32AM +0300, George Zeigler wrote:
Hello, I'm curious. I went and took a look at the file /etc/shadow. Root had this info after it: root:kBcFyC8Ul4/tA:20456:0:12341:::: Note: I changed the characters. Anyhow, what would a person actually delete in this case?
The funny characters. These are the encrypted password. Cees. P.S. Could you reply after the original message? This makes reading much easier. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Yes, well I had figured that much out. The point being, would a person leave only "root:" after the deletion? I would like to know exactly, as if it ever happened, I would not want to mess up. George On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, you wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 09:31:32AM +0300, George Zeigler wrote: > > Hello,
I'm curious. I went and took a look at the file /etc/shadow. Root had this info after it: root:kBcFyC8Ul4/tA:20456:0:12341:::: Note: I changed the characters. Anyhow, what would a person actually delete in this case?
The funny characters. These are the encrypted password.
Cees.
P.S. Could you reply after the original message? This makes reading much easier.
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well I had figured that much out. The point being, would a person leave only "root:" after the deletion? I would like to know exactly, as if it ever happened, I would not want to mess up.
root:kBcFyC8Ul4/tA:20456:0:12341:::: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Just delete these chariters. Mind you then anyone could login as root.
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clarge@gizmo.macn.bc.ca wrote:
well I had figured that much out. The point being, would a person leave only "root:" after the deletion? I would like to know exactly, as if it ever happened, I would not want to mess up.
root:kBcFyC8Ul4/tA:20456:0:12341:::: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Just delete these chariters. Mind you then anyone could login as root.
I used to be the system administrator for a small SCO Unix system. It allowed you to "retire" an account so that no one could log in on it. According to the documentation, there was no way to reverse the retiral of an account. I discovered that all that it did was to replace the encoded password in /etc/shadow with the string "*RETIRED*", and that all that you had to do to restore the account to normal status was to use an editor to remove this string, then set up a new password for the account. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
root:kBcFyC8Ul4/tA:20456:0:12341::::
I used to be the system administrator for a small SCO Unix system. It allowed you to "retire" an account so that no one could log in on it. According to the documentation, there was no way to reverse the retiral of an account. I discovered that all that it did was to replace the encoded password in /etc/shadow with the string "*RETIRED*", and that all that you had to do to restore the account to normal status was to use an editor to remove this string, then set up a new password for the account.
Or you could do what we do is just put a "*" in front of the passwd and that blocks the account but keeps the same passwd. all you have to do is just remove the "*" and the account is back to normal. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
George Zeigler wrote:
Yes, well I had figured that much out. The point being, would a person leave only "root:" after the deletion? I would like to know exactly, as if it ever happened, I would not want to mess up.
George
root:kBcFyC8Ul4/tA:20456:0:12341:::: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's your encrypted password. Delete it to root::20456:0:12341:::: and log in by pressing <CR> when prompted for the password. Juergen -- =========================================== __ _ Juergen Braukmann juergen.braukmann@gmx.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb@db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ===========================================_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 01:35:07PM +0300, George Zeigler wrote:
Yes, well I had figured that much out. The point being, would a person leave only "root:" after the deletion? I would like to know exactly, as if it ever happened, I would not want to mess up.
George
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, you wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 09:31:32AM +0300, George Zeigler wrote:
Hello,
I'm curious. I went and took a look at the file /etc/shadow. Root had this info after it: root:kBcFyC8Ul4/tA:20456:0:12341:::: Note: I changed the characters. Anyhow, what would a person actually delete in this case?
The funny characters. These are the encrypted password.
Cees.
P.S. Could you reply after the original message? This makes reading much easier.
Use 'linux single' at the boot-prompt to boot linux in single-user mode. (Maybe your root-partion is mounted read-only. Use: 'mount -o remount, rw /' to mount / for reading and writing.) If you delete the funny characters, root hasn't any password anymore. So everybody is able to login as root by pressing enter at the password prompt. So, reboot your system, login as root by pressing enter at the password prompt and use the program 'passwd' to set a password for root again. Don't forget the password this time... Cees. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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[SLE] PASSWORD"
From: George Zeigler
Yes, well I had figured that much out. The point being, would a person leave only "root:" after the deletion? I would like to know exactly, as if it ever happened, I would not want to mess up.
You can remove the encrypted password.. But make sure that you leave all the ":" delimeters.. I have removed these once by accident and all hell broke loose :) Cya Matthew Matthew King: Sys Admin, Quakers Hill High School. My ICQ#: 2342475 Message me! Cellular Phone: +61 415 257 516 E-Mail: noodle@penguinpowered.com Homepage: http://www.penguinpowered.com/~noodle/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GIT d+ s: a--- C++++ UL++++ P+ L+++ E---- W++ N++ o++ K w O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP- t+ 5++++ X++ R+ tv++ b+++ DI+++++ D++ G+++ e* h* r++ y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Boot. At "lilo" type "linux single" when you get a prompt type "passwd" "J.S.Bach" wrote:
Hey folks, I think I have a big problem.... I forgot my root password - I know it's stupid.
But does anyone know how I can crack my one password???
Many thanks! Hopefully, Escubidera.
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cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl
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clarge@gizmo.macn.bc.ca
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eldredge@poboxes.com
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escubidera@nikocity.de
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genz1968@mtu-net.ru
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jbarnett@axil.netmate.com
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JerryKreps@alltel.net
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juergen.braukmann@ruhr-west.de
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mhtexcollins@austin.rr.com
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noodle@penguinpowered.com