Hi all, I want to switch from Mozilla to Firefox, after reading the few installations notes I've found and after a lot of googling I've a few questions : -- For Firefox : should install it as root ? if so do I've - as I read - to install it in a folder where all users have write access ? Or should I install it in my home folder ? This was not necessary with Mozilla ! -- For Flashplayer : I read two different install instructions : - the first one - mozdev installation note - tells to copy the two files : "libflashplayer.so" and "flashplayer.xpt" in the "plugin" folder of the installation ! Do they speak of the "~/.mozilla/firefox/plugin" folder or of the "/usr/local/mozilla/firefox/plugin" folder ? - the second one - mozdev installation FAQ - tells to copy the file : "libflashplayer.so" in the plugin folder and the file "flashplayer.xpt" in the "components" folder !!! Which one is right ? - Furthermore, if I install the flashplayer with the installer I'm told that I need to install the packages "ttfonts" and "urw-fonts", is it necessary? if yes where do I find these packages for SuSE 9.2 Pro ? Could someone who succeed in the installation of Firefox with Flashplayer give me the answers to these questions ? Thanks in advance for reply. Michel.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michel, | I want to switch from Mozilla to Firefox <snip> Why switch? I run both. I use Mozilla's calendar and e-mail clients and see no reason to change them yet. <snip> | -- For Firefox : should install it as root ? if so do I've - as I read - | to install it in a folder You should install an rpm package of Firefox with YaST and not worry about locations or configuring permissions. This will all be done automatically, just like it was with Mozilla. <snip> | -- For Flashplayer : I read two different install instructions : | - the first one - mozdev installation note - tells to copy the two files | : "libflashplayer.so" | and "flashplayer.xpt" in the "plugin" folder of the installation ! Do | they speak of the | "~/.mozilla/firefox/plugin" folder or of the | "/usr/local/mozilla/firefox/plugin" folder ? <snip> They go in the central plug-ins repository, /usr/lib/browser-plugins. You soft-link to them from the browser's plug-ins directory, in this case probably /opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/plugins Here's what my setup looks like in opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/plugins : flashplayer.xpt -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/flashplayer.xpt libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libflashplayer.so libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-sun-1.4.2.06/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so libmozilla_bonobo.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libmozilla_bonobo.so libnptcl3.0.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libnptcl3.0.so libnullplugin.so mplayerplug-in.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/mplayerplug-in.so nphelix.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/nphelix.so nphelix.xpt -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/nphelix.xpt nppdf.so -> /usr/X11R6/lib/Acrobat5/Browsers/intellinux/nppdf.so nsdejavu.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/nsdejavu.so <snip> | - Furthermore, if I install the flashplayer with the installer I'm told | that I need to install | the packages "ttfonts" and "urw-fonts", is it necessary? if yes where do | I find these | packages for SuSE 9.2 Pro ? <snip> You'll need to verify this, but you probably already have the free MS TrueType fonts installed. I'm late for dinner, so I'll let someone else answer the "urw-fonts" question. HTH & regards, - - Carl - -- ____________________________________________________________________ C. E. Hartung Business Development & Support Services http://www.cehartung.com/ carlh@cehartung.com Dover Foxcroft, Maine, USA Public Key #0x68396713 Reg. Linux User #350527 http://counter.li.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCBp1Zusxgymg5ZxMRAiJcAJ0UZ3GgHYTLMJh7rfiuysffznrXqwCeOlli E5eT4MEvBi+mZeOTAAMPnoc= =w8ZX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hi Carl, Thanks for all your replies, I made a lot of trials and below are the results and comments : Carl E. Hartung a écrit :
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Hi Michel,
| I want to switch from Mozilla to Firefox <snip>
Why switch? I run both. I use Mozilla's calendar and e-mail clients and see no reason to change them yet.
Why not both, but I want(ed) Firefox and Thunderbird for their possibilities of extension : for instance RSS
<snip> | -- For Firefox : should install it as root ? if so do I've - as I read - | to install it in a folder
You should install an rpm package of Firefox with YaST and not worry about locations or configuring permissions. This will all be done automatically, just like it was with Mozilla.
Thanks for the RPM, I found too the one for Thunderbird, I installed them, For Firefox, no problem, it works but with warnings about write permissions, if I install the Firefox.tar.gz in my home directory, I've no warnings ! Certainly it doesn't matter. For Thunderbird I get a segmentation fault with the RPM and with the tar.gz !! So no Thunderbird and no RSS without addon software.
<snip> | -- For Flashplayer : I read two different install instructions : | - the first one - mozdev installation note - tells to copy the two files | : "libflashplayer.so" | and "flashplayer.xpt" in the "plugin" folder of the installation ! Do | they speak of the | "~/.mozilla/firefox/plugin" folder or of the | "/usr/local/mozilla/firefox/plugin" folder ? <snip>
They go in the central plug-ins repository, /usr/lib/browser-plugins.
You soft-link to them from the browser's plug-ins directory, in this
case probably /opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/plugins
Here's what my setup looks like in opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/plugins :
flashplayer.xpt -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/flashplayer.xpt libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libflashplayer.so libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-sun-1.4.2.06/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so
libmozilla_bonobo.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libmozilla_bonobo.so libnptcl3.0.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libnptcl3.0.so libnullplugin.so mplayerplug-in.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/mplayerplug-in.so nphelix.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/nphelix.so nphelix.xpt -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/nphelix.xpt nppdf.so -> /usr/X11R6/lib/Acrobat5/Browsers/intellinux/nppdf.so nsdejavu.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/nsdejavu.so
Thanks, I tried that, the flash RPM ... but no flash working with firefox It works very well with Mozilla 1.7 So no Firefox, I'm back to the Mozilla suite !!!
<snip> | - Furthermore, if I install the flashplayer with the installer I'm told | that I need to install | the packages "ttfonts" and "urw-fonts", is it necessary? if yes where do | I find these | packages for SuSE 9.2 Pro ? <snip>
You'll need to verify this, but you probably already have the free MS TrueType fonts installed. I'm late for dinner, so I'll let someone else answer the "urw-fonts" question.
HTH & regards,
- - Carl
I don't know where are my errors, what lib could be missing. I don't understand but being a searcher I'm not satisfied. Thanks for everything Michel.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michel, Catimimi wrote: | Thanks for all your replies, I made a lot of trials and below are the | results | and comments : You're welcome and thanks for the feedback! |> ...I want(ed) Firefox and Thunderbird for their possibilities |> of extension : for instance RSS You are wandering closer to the bleeding edge than I usually go! :-) |> Thanks for the RPM, I found too the one for Thunderbird, I installed them, |> For Firefox, no problem, it works but with warnings about write |> permissions, ?? Obviously something is very wrong here. ?? |> if I install the Firefox.tar.gz in my home directory, I've no warnings ! |> Certainly it doesn't matter. |> For Thunderbird I get a segmentation fault with the RPM and with the |> tar.gz !! So no Thunderbird and no RSS without addon software. ... Could these problems be due to you mixing and matching tarball & rpm packages? Are you installing the tarballs as root? (hope not) Also, I'd like to know how you are installing rpms as user and not root? Or have I misinterpreted you? ... |> Thanks, I tried that, the flash RPM ... but no flash working with firefox |> It works very well with Mozilla 1.7 |> So no Firefox, I'm back to the Mozilla suite !!! ... |> I don't know where are my errors, what lib could be missing. I don't |> understand but being a searcher I'm not satisfied. ... I think you should consider starting with a "clean" SuSE 9.2 installation. I do not experience the problems you have with permissions and segmentation faults. Can you "back out" these procedures and restore to original settings? Also, you should not have to "micromanage" the libraries on your system - -- unless, of course, you are a programmer. In this case, you should know what you're doing better than me. For the plugins, here is the unedited listing of my MozillaFirefox 1.0-6.1 plugins directory. Maybe your permissions need to be set the same? These are as the installers have put them, not inadvertantly mangled by my fingers ;-) lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 2005-01-14 18:11 flashplayer.xpt -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/flashplayer.xpt lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 2005-01-14 18:11 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libflashplayer.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 85 2005-01-14 18:11 libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-sun-1.4.2.06/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 45 2005-01-16 23:42 libmozilla_bonobo.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libmozilla_bonobo.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 2005-02-01 12:52 libnptcl3.0.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libnptcl3.0.so - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17316 2005-01-24 09:53 libnullplugin.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 2005-01-14 23:54 mplayerplug-in.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/mplayerplug-in.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 2005-01-14 18:11 nphelix.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/nphelix.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2005-01-14 18:11 nphelix.xpt -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/nphelix.xpt lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 52 2005-01-28 18:30 nppdf.so -> /usr/X11R6/lib/Acrobat5/Browsers/intellinux/nppdf.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2005-01-14 18:11 nsdejavu.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/nsdejavu.so I still haven't followed up on your fonts question (the "urw-fonts" anyway) -- any luck with Google? regards, - - Carl - -- ____________________________________________________________________ C. E. Hartung Business Development & Support Services http://www.cehartung.com/ carlh@cehartung.com Dover Foxcroft, Maine, USA Public Key #0x68396713 Reg. Linux User #350527 http://counter.li.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCB4gyusxgymg5ZxMRAlGjAJ9jXBzPB+EfI4BMk/5tYLMljxsXgwCdGtDc BrOXgVjFbXYPaJQZVG6AUu4= =tISP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Carl E. Hartung a écrit :
Hi Michel,
Catimimi wrote: | Thanks for all your replies, I made a lot of trials and below are the | results | and comments :
You're welcome and thanks for the feedback!
|> ...I want(ed) Firefox and Thunderbird for their possibilities |> of extension : for instance RSS
You are wandering closer to the bleeding edge than I usually go! :-)
|> Thanks for the RPM, I found too the one for Thunderbird, I installed them, |> For Firefox, no problem, it works but with warnings about write |> permissions,
?? Obviously something is very wrong here. ??
|> if I install the Firefox.tar.gz in my home directory, I've no warnings ! |> Certainly it doesn't matter. |> For Thunderbird I get a segmentation fault with the RPM and with the |> tar.gz !! So no Thunderbird and no RSS without addon software. ... Could these problems be due to you mixing and matching tarball & rpm packages? Are you installing the tarballs as root? (hope not) Also, I'd like to know how you are installing rpms as user and not root? Or have I misinterpreted you? ... |> Thanks, I tried that, the flash RPM ... but no flash working with firefox |> It works very well with Mozilla 1.7 |> So no Firefox, I'm back to the Mozilla suite !!! ... |> I don't know where are my errors, what lib could be missing. I don't |> understand but being a searcher I'm not satisfied. ... I think you should consider starting with a "clean" SuSE 9.2 installation. I do not experience the problems you have with permissions and segmentation faults. Can you "back out" these procedures and restore to original settings?
Also, you should not have to "micromanage" the libraries on your system - -- unless, of course, you are a programmer. In this case, you should know what you're doing better than me.
For the plugins, here is the unedited listing of my MozillaFirefox 1.0-6.1 plugins directory. Maybe your permissions need to be set the same? These are as the installers have put them, not inadvertantly mangled by my fingers ;-)
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 2005-01-14 18:11 flashplayer.xpt -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/flashplayer.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 2005-01-14 18:11 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libflashplayer.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 85 2005-01-14 18:11 libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-sun-1.4.2.06/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 45 2005-01-16 23:42 libmozilla_bonobo.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libmozilla_bonobo.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 2005-02-01 12:52 libnptcl3.0.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libnptcl3.0.so
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17316 2005-01-24 09:53 libnullplugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 2005-01-14 23:54 mplayerplug-in.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/mplayerplug-in.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 2005-01-14 18:11 nphelix.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/nphelix.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2005-01-14 18:11 nphelix.xpt -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/nphelix.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 52 2005-01-28 18:30 nppdf.so -> /usr/X11R6/lib/Acrobat5/Browsers/intellinux/nppdf.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2005-01-14 18:11 nsdejavu.so -> /usr/lib/browser-plugins/nsdejavu.so
I still haven't followed up on your fonts question (the "urw-fonts" anyway) -- any luck with Google?
regards,
- - Carl
Hi Carl, After a lot of trials, I succeed with Firefox and Thunderbird. First I've to tell you that I use to manage RPMs and tarballs and that I have no permissions problems. Very often I use tarballs when no RPM is available, and I like to choose my compilations options. So I used the French Firefox tarball, not the SuSE rpm, because I have better to speak French ! If I install it (as root) in a folder where I don't have (as user) the write permission, I get the same warnings that with the RPM (!) but it works. If I link the libraries as you told me and if I add my path ( I choosed /usr/local/firefox) in /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig, I'm able to use the plugins. Same I copied (no install needed) French Thunderbird in folder /usr/local/thunderbird, add the path in /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig as root (absolutely necessary or thunderbird doesn't find the libraries, I have no "segmentation fault", but if I accept to import the mozilla mail and parameters Thunderbird crashes !! So I'd to recreate all my mail RSS and news accounts ! In fine, now I'm able to share Thunderbird folders with native Windows XP or with Windows XP guest with VMware and my mail RSS and news are always synchronized. Thanks again for your help. Michel.
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