FW: [opensuse] Need monitor recommendation
Sorry Randall. I didn't mean to send that one to you directly. On Thursday, December 14, 2006 @ 6:14 PM, Randall Schulz wrote:
On Thursday 14 December 2006 12:21, Susemail wrote:
On Thursday 14 December 2006 09:02, Greg Wallace wrote:
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc).
Thanks, Greg Wallace
Viewsonic LCD Jerome
Another vote for ViewSonic. I have a VP201b (1600x1200 LCD) and it is an excellent monitor. It has DVI-A, DVI-D and VGA inputs, and you can sequence between them from the front panel. The display quality, especially when using DVI, is outstanding.
I'll never own a CRT again!
Randall Schulz
Randall: I have a bit of a vision problem and need 1024 X 768. Felix was saying that you need to consider that when buying a LCD monitor because, unlike a CRT, they have an optimal resolution. Would the VP201b work ok at that resolution? Thanks, Greg Wallace -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Greg, On Thursday 14 December 2006 17:57, Greg Wallace wrote:
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Randall:
I have a bit of a vision problem and need 1024 X 768. Felix was saying that you need to consider that when buying a LCD monitor because, unlike a CRT, they have an optimal resolution. Would the VP201b work ok at that resolution?
It will work, but not with optimal resolution. Because it must map to a higher resolution, the resulting images will be (are) blurry. However, I think you need to consider more carefully what you need. It's not about the number of pixels displayed by the monitor, it's about the size of each pixel (or, equivalently, the number of pixels per inch / cm.).. So my monitor, the VP201b, has a 100dpi display (thus, its viewable area is 16 inches wide and 12 inches wide). Most LCD displays have about the same resolution (in the range of 96 to 100 dpi), so you might as well buy the biggest display you can afford, since it will allow you to either: a) See more information; or: b) Use larger fonts.
Thanks, Greg Wallace
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday, December 14, 2006 @ 9:02 PM, Randall Schulz wrote:
Greg,
On Thursday 14 December 2006 17:57, Greg Wallace wrote:
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Randall:
I have a bit of a vision problem and need 1024 X 768. Felix was saying that you need to consider that when buying a LCD monitor because, unlike a CRT, they have an optimal resolution. Would the VP201b work ok at that resolution?
It will work, but not with optimal resolution. Because it must map to a higher resolution, the resulting images will be (are) blurry.
However, I think you need to consider more carefully what you need. It's not about the number of pixels displayed by the monitor, it's about the size of each pixel (or, equivalently, the number of pixels per inch / cm.).. So my monitor, the VP201b, has a 100dpi display (thus, its viewable area is 16 inches wide and 12 inches wide). Most LCD displays have about the same resolution (in the range of 96 to 100 dpi), so you might as well buy the biggest display you can afford, since it will allow you to either: a) See more information; or: b) Use larger fonts.
Thanks, Greg Wallace
Randall Schulz
I'm beginning to wonder if the opposite tack might be worth trying; i. e., try to find a video card that will work with my old monitor. Just as a test, I'm going to pull the Radeon 7500 out of my old machine tomorrow and install it in my new machine, just to see how it works. If it works ok, then surely I can find a graphics card out there somewhere that will not give me the problem this new one is giving me. Greg Wallace -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 December 2006 22:20, Greg Wallace wrote:
On Thursday, December 14, 2006 @ 9:02 PM, Randall Schulz wrote:
Greg,
On Thursday 14 December 2006 17:57, Greg Wallace wrote:
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Randall:
I have a bit of a vision problem and need 1024 X 768. Felix was saying that you need to consider that when buying a LCD monitor because, unlike a CRT, they have an optimal resolution. Would the VP201b work ok at that resolution?
It will work, but not with optimal resolution. Because it must map to a higher resolution, the resulting images will be (are) blurry.
However, I think you need to consider more carefully what you need. It's not about the number of pixels displayed by the monitor, it's about the size of each pixel (or, equivalently, the number of pixels per inch / cm.).. So my monitor, the VP201b, has a 100dpi display (thus, its viewable area is 16 inches wide and 12 inches wide). Most LCD displays have about the same resolution (in the range of 96 to 100 dpi), so you might as well buy the biggest display you can afford, since it will allow you to either: a) See more information; or: b) Use larger fonts.
Thanks, Greg Wallace
Randall Schulz
I'm beginning to wonder if the opposite tack might be worth trying; i. e., try to find a video card that will work with my old monitor. Just as a test, I'm going to pull the Radeon 7500 out of my old machine tomorrow and install it in my new machine, just to see how it works. If it works ok, then surely I can find a graphics card out there somewhere that will not give me the problem this new one is giving me.
Greg Wallace
Be careful about swapping video cards. The newer ones have different operating voltages--3.3, 2.5, 1.8, etc., and are not interchangeable in most machines. I own one I can't plug in anywhere, for instance. Some mobo's will determine the inconsistency and refuse to start at all, which is better than burning something out. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2006/12/14 19:02 (GMT-0800) Randall R Schulz apparently typed:
However, I think you need to consider more carefully what you need. It's not about the number of pixels displayed by the monitor, it's about the size of each pixel (or, equivalently, the number of pixels per inch / cm.).. So my monitor, the VP201b, has a 100dpi display (thus, its viewable area is 16 inches wide and 12 inches wide). Most LCD displays have about the same resolution (in the range of 96 to 100 dpi), so you might as well buy the biggest display you can afford, since it will allow you to either: a) See more information; or: b) Use larger fonts.
The most common resolutions & DPI values for normal aspect ratio flat panels are: 15" - 1024x0768 = 85.3 17" - 1280x1024 = 96.4 19" - 1280x1024 = 86.3 20" - 1400x1050 = 87.5 20" - 1600x1200 = 100.0 21" - 1600x1200 = 95.2 By comparison for CRT: 15" nominal/14" actual - 1024x768 = 91.4 17" nominal/16" actual - 1024x768 = 80.0 19" nominal/18" actual - 1024x768 = 71.1 Greg, There's only one basic drawback of going to a higher resolution and adjusting desktop settings to compensate: the changes you make don't generally affect image sizes, particularly web page images, and typically but not always icons too. OTOH, higher resolution is just a way of saying higher quality - the more DPI, the better the quality of any object of a particular physical size. Unless images are a particular problem for you, you shouldn't "need" 1024x768. There is a substantial indirect drawback to higher resolution. Current web page designer practice is still dominated by px sizing for 800x600 & 1024x768 resolution. Such web pages will make everything smaller at any higher resolution that is also a higher DPI than you have now. Setting browser minimum font size, disabling site styles, and using zoom all can help compensate, but they are no substitute for accessible designs that adjust to user environment. -- "Let your conversation be always full of grace." Colossians 4:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 December 2006 20:57, Greg Wallace wrote:
Randall Schulz
Randall:
I have a bit of a vision problem and need 1024 X 768. Felix was saying that you need to consider that when buying a LCD monitor because, unlike a CRT, they have an optimal resolution. Would the VP201b work ok at that resolution?
I'm not Randall... but I also have a VP201b, When I first installed 10.1 I could not get the monitor setup properly due to the ATI modules in the kernel. I ran at 1280x1024 for quite awhile and it was not good. I don't think 1024x768 would be any better. I finally downloaded the ATI driver and after I got them working I switched to an NVidia card and haven't looked back. I would think you would be able to set a vp201b into its 1600x1200 mode and then work with the software to get it into a mode you want.... larger fonts, etc. Maybe someone else has experience with that. Point is.... if you get an LCD small enough that its native mode is 1024x768, then you're dealing with a smaller screen and I think the result is going to be much the same. Better to have the larger screen size and then enlarge the info that goes on it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Bruce Marshall
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Doug McGarrett
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Felix Miata
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Greg Wallace
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Randall R Schulz