Re: [SLE] backing up "proc" the directory re Bruce
Bruce Okay. I will go to www.linux-sxs.org and familarize myself with the GRUB instructions and examples and see if I can do this with the 15 machines I have on my LAN, some Windows, some Linux. I will then create a Grub Boot Disk (diskette or CD) and try to "set it up" to accomplish booting to the boot section of each of the 15 LAN machines. Will let you know if I have a problem. It may take me a couple of weeks to get back to you because of my busy schedule. Thanks for taking the time to inform me in a general way on this matter. I would have liked a working example of at least 2 machines set up on a Grub Boot Disk as this example would have helped me appreciate the new concepts of using GRUB. I have only worked with LILO in the past. Thanks -TED Bruce Marshall wrote:
Why is this so hard to understand? Grub is merely a small program that can read from many types of file systems and boot those systems. Simple.
Thanks -- Ted
Bruce said
You can easily make a grub boot floppy which will give you the same menu setup that you have on SuSE and you can go from there.
Go to: www.linux-sxs.org and do a search on grub to find some instructions.
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On Wednesday 09 February 2005 05:31 pm, Ted Hilts wrote:
Bruce Okay. I will go to www.linux-sxs.org and familarize myself with the GRUB instructions and examples and see if I can do this with the 15 machines I have on my LAN, some Windows, some Linux. I will then create a Grub Boot Disk (diskette or CD) and try to "set it up" to accomplish booting to the boot section of each of the 15 LAN machines.
Ya know.... I don't think we yet understand what you are really trying to do... Do you just want a 'global' boot cd that you can stick into any of your machines and get it booted? Or are you trying to do something bigger......? If the former.... than you can easily do it for 100 machines (or more) using a grub boot diskette or a CD. All grub needs to know is where is the kernel (and what its boot parms are) and also where the initrd file is if needed. For windows it needs to know the partition to boot. Each of your 15 (or 100) entries would be unique to the machine you are going to boot and you would title it as "Machine 12 Linux" and maybe also "Machine 12 Windows XP" When you stick the diskette/CD into machine 12, and select one or the other of those entries, it should boot the respective OS. Is that what you want? Pretty simple if so.
Will let you know if I have a problem. It may take me a couple of weeks to get back to you because of my busy schedule.
Thanks for taking the time to inform me in a general way on this matter. I would have liked a working example of at least 2 machines set up on a Grub Boot Disk as this example would have helped me appreciate the new concepts of using GRUB. I have only worked with LILO in the past.
Thanks -TED
Bruce Marshall wrote:
Why is this so hard to understand? Grub is merely a small program that can read from many types of file systems and boot those systems. Simple.
Thanks -- Ted
Bruce said
You can easily make a grub boot floppy which will give you the same menu setup that you have on SuSE and you can go from there.
Go to: www.linux-sxs.org and do a search on grub to find some instructions.
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Bruce: Bruce said: "Is that what you want? Pretty simple if so." Ted's Answer: """Yes""" for the boot aspect. And if so simple please give me a "working example" for 3 machines (one Windoze, one dual boot with Linux and Windoze, and one dual boot for 2 differen't linux kernels) and I can take it from there for 15 machines. I need to get this part done first. I would really appreciate a working example or a stretch from a working example. After the first part is accomplished -- yes, there is more to be considered. I want to add to this SINGLE GRUB boot disk a rescue system (linux using a kernel of my choice), a backup and restore system (Acronis) for Win machines (currently on an Acronis Boot CD), and finally YAST or something like YAST that I can launch for the specified Linux machine preempting the hard drive kernel until execution completes just as YAST now works. Since a particular YAST version is kernel specific and will not work for Slackware or Red Hat or Debian or other distributions I will want to use a bash script file instead of YAST but with the capability of pulling in YAST when appropriate and executing. If you need more detail just ask. I have to get this all done before my "denseness" multiplies. A workable example please -- of the first part. If no one can provide a workable example of such a disk boot then it is not simple is it? Thanks -- Ted Bruce Marshall wrote:
Ya know.... I don't think we yet understand what you are really trying to do... Do you just want a 'global' boot cd that you can stick into any of your machines and get it booted?
Or are you trying to do something bigger......?
If the former.... than you can easily do it for 100 machines (or more) using a grub boot diskette or a CD. All grub needs to know is where is the kernel (and what its boot parms are) and also where the initrd file is if needed.
For windows it needs to know the partition to boot.
Each of your 15 (or 100) entries would be unique to the machine you are going to boot and you would title it as "Machine 12 Linux" and maybe also "Machine 12 Windows XP" When you stick the diskette/CD into machine 12, and select one or the other of those entries, it should boot the respective OS.
Is that what you want? Pretty simple if so.
On Wednesday 09 February 2005 08:14 pm, Ted Hilts wrote:
Ted's Answer: """Yes""" for the boot aspect. And if so simple please give me a "working example" for 3 machines (one Windoze, one dual boot with Linux and Windoze, and one dual boot for 2 differen't linux kernels) and I can take it from there for 15 machines. I need to get this part done first. I would really appreciate a working example or a stretch from a working example.
I use Acronis for loading most of my machines but I can give you an example that is close: The below is my hand-edited menu.lst for grub on one machine. I don't use Yast for menu configuration. I have added comments that start with +++ on a line Note that every entry points to drives, partitions, and filenames. And it's basically that simple. A little perusal should show you what is going on. The only 'funny' think about it is that partition numbers and hard drive numbers start with zero and count up. Simple............ ====================================================== +++ (normal grub stuff) color white/blue black/light-gray default 0 timeout 35 gfxmenu (hd0,6)/message +++ boot the most recent 9.2 kernel title SUSE LINUX 2.6.8-24.11 kernel (hd0,6)/vmlinuz-2.6.8-24.11-default root=/dev/sda6 vga=0x031a selinux=0 splash=silent resume=/dev/sda5 desktop elevator=as showopts initrd (hd0,6)/initrd-2.6.8-24.11-default +++ boot a test kernel on 9.2 One I compiled title SUSE LINUX 9.2 (TST)) kernel (hd0,6)/vmlinuz.suse92tst root=/dev/sda6 vga=0x31a selinux=0 splash=silent resume=/dev/sda5 desktop elevator=as showopts initrd (hd0,6)/initrd.suse92tst +++ Another test kernel title <<9.1>>-2.6.9nonsmp kernel (hd0,7)/vmlinuz.269nonsmp root=/dev/sda12 vga=0x31a +++ And yet another title <<9.1>>-2.6.9moxasmp kernel (hd0,7)/vmlinuz.269smp root=/dev/sda12 vga=0x31a +++ Boot SuSE 9.1 (still on my system) title <<9.1>>-2.6.9nonsmp kernel (hd0,7)/vmlinuz.269nonsmp root=/dev/sda13 vga=0x31a +++ Boot windows. title Windows XP root (hd0,1) chainloader +1 +++ Original failsafe boot for 9.2 title Failsafe -- SUSE LINUX 9.2 kernel (hd0,6)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off vga=normal noresume selinux=0 barrier=off nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 3 initrd (hd0,6)/initrd +++ Boot the memory test program title Memory Test kernel (hd0,6)/memtest.bin
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