Carlos E. R. wrote:

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[I suppose you forgot to send to the list. I have also removed the spam header, just in case]

OldSubject : Re: [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO

El 2004-11-23 a las 09:16 -0500, James Knott escribió:

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I also see that header, but in emails that are answers to James messages - actually, twice this month. And I know it is not my provider, they don't have that service, unless I pay extra.

Could the header be generated at SuSE?

If it was, I'd see it on my messages, as they're posted on the list.

Do the message headers offer any clues?

I'm not clear on that, I mean, I'm not sure. I can't analyze if it is SuSE, because the spamassassin headers that SuSE puts there are removed by my local spamassassin run.

But have a look at "http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2004-Nov/". There is at least one message with the *spam* subject line, and the one in question is missing from the archive (our answers are shown, but not the fist message). That is suspicious.

* [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] VPN client under 9.2 Brad Bourn (Thu Nov 18 2004 - 21:18:28 CET)

* [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO James Knott (Mon Nov 22 2004 - 18:42:44 CET) * Re: [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO Carlos E. R. (Tue Nov 23 2004 - 05:07:42 CET) * Re: [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO Brad Bourn (Tue Nov 23 2004 - 17:39:05 CET) * Re: [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO James Knott (Tue Nov 23 2004 - 18:12:53 CET) * Re: [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO James Knott (Tue Nov 23 2004 - 18:28:11 CET) * Re: [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO Brad Bourn (Tue Nov 23 2004 - 18:40:40 CET) * Re: [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO James Knott (Tue Nov 23 2004 - 18:43:02 CET)

* [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO James Knott (Tue Nov 23 2004 - 18:12:24 CET)

On the other hand, on that same link, the very first few messages are spam - I don't understand how those reach the list, I don't see them; however, it could be that my local spamassassin is trained, and suse's is not:

I believe those messages are ones where we're discussing the problem. If SuSE was adding that, I would see it on messages I post, but I don't. Someone else mentioned that spamassassin is the culprit.

I"m quite sure it was my provider. I have had them remove filtering for my account so it won't happen again. B-) On Tuesday 23 November 2004 04:26 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:

[I suppose you forgot to send to the list. I have also removed the spam header, just in case]

OldSubject : Re: [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO

El 2004-11-23 a las 09:16 -0500, James Knott escribió:

...

...

I also see that header, but in emails that are answers to James messages - actually, twice this month. And I know it is not my provider, they don't have that service, unless I pay extra.

Could the header be generated at SuSE?

If it was, I'd see it on my messages, as they're posted on the list.

Do the message headers offer any clues?

I'm not clear on that, I mean, I'm not sure. I can't analyze if it is SuSE, because the spamassassin headers that SuSE puts there are removed by my local spamassassin run.

But have a look at "http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2004-Nov/". There is at least one message with the *spam* subject line, and the one in question is missing from the archive (our answers are shown, but not the fist message). That is suspicious.

* [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] VPN client under 9.2 Brad Bourn (Thu Nov 18 2004 - 21:18:28 CET)

* [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO James Knott (Mon Nov 22 2004 - 18:42:44 CET) * Re: [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO Carlos E. R. (Tue Nov 23 2004 - 05:07:42 CET) * Re: [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO Brad Bourn (Tue Nov 23 2004 - 17:39:05 CET) * Re: [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO James Knott (Tue Nov 23 2004 - 18:12:53 CET) * Re: [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO James Knott (Tue Nov 23 2004 - 18:28:11 CET) * Re: [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO Brad Bourn (Tue Nov 23 2004 - 18:40:40 CET) * Re: [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO James Knott (Tue Nov 23 2004 - 18:43:02 CET)

* [SLE] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [SLE] Re: Samba HOWTO James Knott (Tue Nov 23 2004 - 18:12:24 CET)

On the other hand, on that same link, the very first few messages are spam - I don't understand how those reach the list, I don't see them; however, it could be that my local spamassassin is trained, and suse's is not:

* Dylan are you all set? Helena Hunt (Thu Jan 01 1970 - 00:59:59 CET)

Mmm, no, that message is not in my local spam folder. Funny!

And now, I'll have to pgp sign this message to reduce the risk of this message being filtered out ;-)

-- Saludos Carlos Robinson