-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Hatfield wrote:

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Yes, but things pile up. Packages depend on packages depend on packages etc. Packager has very hard time to get these right. And speaking of Avg. Joe trying to install them..

Anybody else looking forward the maturation of Klik? http://www.opensuse.org/SUPER_KLIK

Now Klik has very little to do with this. Or, rather, Klik definately does *not* solve this, it's the exact opposite. Klik - at least as of now - requires having such a "base system" consisting of a certain number of packages, including things like KDE and GNOME. Actually what we're talking about mostly turns around such a base system. Klik simply makes the assumption that, as you're using SUSE 10.0, you're having a certain number of libraries installed. Those are not "packaged" as part of the cmg image. Which means that if you don't have a certain library installed that Klik assumes you have, the application simply won't run. Period. It'll die very quickly during runtime linkage. Klik is great at other things (1-click-install, a single file for an application, use as non-root user, transportable image, it doesn't install files on your system, etc...). But this is precisely one of its defects: where to draw the line between what's part of such a "base system" and what's not. My point, about this and as a reply to Janne, is that Linux is a highly modular system, and that it's actually one of it's key benefits. Which means that there is no such thing as a "base system". Klik excels on so-called "live" distributions that consist of a read-only ISO/CD/DVD, because you always have the same set of packages installed. There, you actually have a base system, as it doesn't vary. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDZVZIr3NMWliFcXcRAs4pAJ47IOdagMXhzwLPAFkopRrxVeQ4YwCgiYTT IgPadz4JsNtzHd2JAmzUFYY= =qmX9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----