[opensuse] Suse on an EeePC (still)
Hello First some background: I was trying to get Suse on my EeePC a while back, but crashed as the CD I used didn't have Make, so I couldn't install the Madwifidrivers and so I couldn't get the network active and thus couldn't install make....(see this thread: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/SuSE/2008-07/msg00537.html) The following site was suggested: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_on_the_EeePC . I tried the first version since it promises to boot without an USB stick and that is exactly what I want. I tried it and had the following problem: When booting from USB the Eee posts "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB" and so forth on the screen (just like 10 echo "GRUB" 20 goto 10" would do). Does annywone have an idea what this could possibly mean? Thanks for your time Neil -- There are two kinds of people: 1. People who start their arrays with 1. 1. People who start their arrays with 0. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 03 August 2008 15:34:56 Neil wrote:
Hello
First some background: I was trying to get Suse on my EeePC a while back, but crashed as the CD I used didn't have Make, so I couldn't install the Madwifidrivers and so I couldn't get the network active and thus couldn't install make....(see this thread: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/SuSE/2008-07/msg00537.html) The following site was suggested: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_on_the_EeePC . I tried the first version since it promises to boot without an USB stick and that is exactly what I want. I tried it and had the following problem: When booting from USB the Eee posts "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB" and so forth on the screen (just like 10 echo "GRUB" 20 goto 10" would do).
Does annywone have an idea what this could possibly mean?
Well, if it prints "GRUB" and then stops, it usually means that grub couldn't find stage one - normally because it's been configured with the wrong hard drive index, but it could also be that stage1 has been physically moved. While grub can read file systems, stage1 must always be physically in the same place it was when grub was installed. Maybe your USB stick has a different geometry than the reference stick used to create the image? Repeating "GRUB" probably means that the BIOS tries continuously to reload the boot loader You could try inserting your stick into another system and reinstalling grub on it Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 03 August 2008, Neil wrote:
Hello
First some background: I was trying to get Suse on my EeePC a while back, but crashed as the CD I used didn't have Make, so I couldn't install the Madwifidrivers and so I couldn't get the network active and thus couldn't install make....(see this thread: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/SuSE/2008-07/msg00537.html) The following site was suggested: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_on_the_EeePC . I tried the first version since it promises to boot without an USB stick and that is exactly what I want. I tried it and had the following problem: When booting from USB the Eee posts "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB" and so forth on the screen (just like 10 echo "GRUB" 20 goto 10" would do).
Does annywone have an idea what this could possibly mean?
Thanks for your time
Neil
Hi Neil, Can't help you with the GRUB error, but just to confirm that I do have openSuse 11.0 installed on my eee using the bootable USB stick method and appelonkel repos, no compiling needed. Works smooth as. John. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 8/3/08, John Layt
On Sunday 03 August 2008, Neil wrote:
Hello
First some background: I was trying to get Suse on my EeePC a while back, but crashed as the CD I used didn't have Make, so I couldn't install the Madwifidrivers and so I couldn't get the network active and thus couldn't install make....(see this thread: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/SuSE/2008-07/msg00537.html) The following site was suggested: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_on_the_EeePC . I tried the first version since it promises to boot without an USB stick and that is exactly what I want. I tried it and had the following problem: When booting from USB the Eee posts "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB" and so forth on the screen (just like 10 echo "GRUB" 20 goto 10" would do).
Does annywone have an idea what this could possibly mean?
Thanks for your time
Neil
Hi Neil,
Can't help you with the GRUB error, but just to confirm that I do have openSuse 11.0 installed on my eee using the bootable USB stick method and appelonkel repos, no compiling needed. Works smooth as.
John.
Hi John In that case I have some questions: Did you use the CD or the DVD? Did you heve a working internet connection when installing? Did you install the Madwifi drivers manually? What is your paritioning? Can you boot without an external USB stick? What are the Appelonkel repros? Could you please try a command like "make TEST" in console (only works as root) to test wether make is working? (there must be better ways, but I do not know them) Thanks Neil
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On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 08:36:24AM +0200, Neil wrote:
Did you heve a working internet connection when installing?
If you use this image: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/matz/eeeSUSE/eeeSUSE-liveusb.gz ethernet should work, but not wireless. The image was tested only on a first-generation 701, which version of the EeePC do you have? Maybe the hardware changed.
What are the Appelonkel repros?
Could you please try a command like "make TEST" in console (only works as root) to test wether make is working? (there must be better ways, but I do not know them)
Please read the instructions on http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_on_the_EeePC to the end. The system on the USB stick image is a very minimal one, it is intended as a starting point for people who prefer a custom installation, so there's no build environment on it (and no KDE or GNOME, no openoffice...) "appleonkel repos" refers to http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/appleonkel:/EEE/* This is a build service project (and the resulting installation source) which offers the packages needed for the EEE which are not in the main openSUSE distribution. Again, this is all mentioned in the wiki. cheers, Sonja -- Sonja Krause-Harder (skh@suse.de) SUSE Research & Development ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE Linux Products GmbH GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 05 August 2008, Neil wrote:
Hi John
In that case I have some questions: Did you use the CD or the DVD? Did you heve a working internet connection when installing? Did you install the Madwifi drivers manually? What is your paritioning? Can you boot without an external USB stick? What are the Appelonkel repros?
Could you please try a command like "make TEST" in console (only works as root) to test wether make is working? (there must be better ways, but I do not know them)
Thanks
Neil
Hi Neil, I basically followed the 'Installation from two USB drives' method described at http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_on_the_EeePC to install openSuse 11.0 to the SSD without Xandros, but with my own twist in the method. I've used both the DVD and CD install media to do installs based on the size of the USB stick I had to hand, but my current eee install was done off the DVD as I needed to install wvdial which (from memory) isn't on the CD. It's also better to use the DVD as it has all the devel stuff on it such as make and gcc and kernel source you don't get from the CD if you need it (which you don't), or if you want XFCE instead of KDE/Gnome. I followed the instructions at http://en.opensuse.org/SuSE_install_from_USB_drive to create the bootable USB stick, then did the full install. For the drivers, I'm lucky in having a mobile internet dongle, so was able to connect directly to the net using wvdial and added the Appleonkel repo at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/appleonkel:/EEE/openSUSE_11.... into Yast to grab the required drivers. What you will need to do is have these already downloaded on a second USB memory stick or SD card so you can manually install them from the command line using 'rpm -Uvh'. You don't need to install all the packages, as half of them are for kernels you don't have like pae and xen or are debug packages, just grab all the 'kmp-default' ones, the 'eeeEvents' one and 'madwifi-ng' one. You can skip the section Improvements as the Appelonkel packages takes care of most of that for you. One caveat, having a mobile internet dogle means I haven't actually physically connected to a network using Ethernet or Wifi, but the system reports them as there and sees wireless networks, so I assume it works OK. I also haven't tried suspend as yet, so can't vouch for that. One gotcha to watch for when booting after install is it waits forever while trying to find a network, just ctrl-c for force it to skip that. Once the drivers are installed it no longer does that. For partitioning, I used to have an 8Gb SD card that I used as 2Gb swap (I have 2Gb RAM) and 6Gb home, with all 4Gb of the SSD used for root. However, because the SD card doesn't work under openSuse, I'm currently running with just the 4Gb SSD as / with no swap. No, no usb key dangling off the side when booting, but then I'm running openSuse from off the SSD. Hope that helps you. John. P.S. My eee 901 20Gb supposedly ships Friday, so I'll be repeating the process next week and will update with any issues I find :-) Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 08:36 +0200, Neil wrote:
On 8/3/08, John Layt
wrote: On Sunday 03 August 2008, Neil wrote:
Hello
First some background: I was trying to get Suse on my EeePC a
I have installed OpenSUSE 11.0 onto an EeePC 900. Unfortunately I had to return it because the keyboard stopped working, so I can't refer to it now. The xorg.conf didn't recognise the screen dimensions properly, but the suggestions on the web helped fix it. From memory, all I needed was a line in the monitor definition saying the resolution was 1024x600.
In that case I have some questions: Did you use the CD or the DVD?
The stuff on en.opensuse.org seemed more for the early models, and didn't really use the 20GB SSD in the 900. So, I basically assumed this was a standard PC (it is) and just went with a normal install using an external DVD drive.
Did you heve a working internet connection when installing?
Neither the wired or wireless internet worked out of the box. But it was a trivial matter to use a thumbdrive to get the wired working, add the required repositories (appleonkel) and then get the wireless working.
Did you install the Madwifi drivers manually?
From memory I had to add the Madwifi repository to get the wireless working because the module has changed since the early models.
What is your paritioning?
I went with a 4GB Ext3 / partition then on the second 16GB module I had /usr and /home, but no swap. I also added 'noatime' to the fstab options. Various places on the net suggested that continuously writing to the SSD will shorten its life. Not sure by how much. Once the system was up and running it responded fine - no noticable lag in processing, but the boot times were very slow compared to the original OS. The system still suspended and hibernated nicely - I just wish I could remember how I did it :-)
Can you boot without an external USB stick?
I didn't try this, although the external DVD drive worked fine.
What are the Appelonkel repros?
Have a look on the http://software.opensuse.org/search site and search 'eee' and you will find appleonkel. The repository lists a couple of extra modules needed to support the unique hardware and function keys on the EeePC. The only things I couldn't get working properly were the microphone and camera for Skype - but then I only had it for a weekend. A bit more tweaking and it would have been working, I think. Next week I should get an EeePC 901, but I am unsure if I will install openSUSE on it or not. One thing I found was the boot times were much slower than the original OS - and this is one of the appealing features of the EeePC. Plus, with all the stuffing around to get the additional hardware to work just so that I can have Linux running - but hey, it already was. HTH. Allen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Allen
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Anders Johansson
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John Layt
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Neil
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Sonja Krause-Harder