Hi, I have a possible job oppotunity comiong up where my employer uses an NT and FreeBSD network. Now, whilst I am certainly comfortable on NT, and will try and switch it to SuSE/FreeBSD, I am wondering how different the FreeBSD OS is to learn as opposed to SuSE 9.0, ie can KDE still be installed and does it work basically the same for filesystem locations and commands etc? Appreciated -- ======================================================================== Hylton Conacher - Licenced ex-Windows user (apart from Quicken) Registered Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org Using SuSE 9.0 with KDE 3.1 ========================================================================
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Now, whilst I am certainly comfortable on NT, and will try and switch it to SuSE/FreeBSD, I am wondering how different the FreeBSD OS is to learn as opposed to SuSE 9.0, ie can KDE still be installed and does it work basically the same for filesystem locations and commands etc?
Well I have played around with FreeBSD a little and I will try and answer from what I have observed. Yes KDE can be installed and works the same as it does in Linux. Most of the tools that you use on the command line are there. FreeBSD however, is more restrictive when it comes to certain things. For one, you cannot mount floppies or CD's as user. This can be changed though. AFAIK, there is no GUI for setting up X like there is in most linux distros. There is differences in terminology when it comes to how FreeBSD does partitioning. What we and M$ call a partition, FreeBSD calls a slice. You will section off the slice into partitions. Maybe this may help some. You may want to browse the FreeBSD web site. They have some things that you can read to help you maybe get acquainted with FreeBSD. You will learn the most however, by installing and using FreeBSD.
Appreciated
Welcome. Marshall
Hi Hylton, On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:50:36 +0200 UTC (1/13/2004, 3:50 AM -0600 UTC my time), Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: H> Now, whilst I am certainly comfortable on NT, and will try and switch it H> to SuSE/FreeBSD, I am wondering how different the FreeBSD OS is to H> learn as opposed to SuSE 9.0, ie can KDE still be installed and does it H> work basically the same for filesystem locations and commands etc? I have a few FBSD servers out there, as well as SUSE. Of course, FreeBSD is Unix, so there are some differences, mainly everything is controlled under the rc.config file, very simple... A few of the commands are different, kernels are obviously different, but overall they are similar. File locations are very similar, some different, but in the same /etc dir, easy to find and become accustomed to. Yes, you can run the latest KDE, Gnome, or whatever, and all are easily upgraded via the ports system... There are now over 10,000 programs available via ports. If you are interested, pick up a FBSD book, there are several out there, or a book on Unix, or visit their website.. Good luck.. -- Gary Dain bramaged.
Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Now, whilst I am certainly comfortable on NT, and will try and switch it to SuSE/FreeBSD, I am wondering how different the FreeBSD OS is to learn as opposed to SuSE 9.0, ie can KDE still be installed and does it work basically the same for filesystem locations and commands etc?
I won't reiterate what other users have already said in this thread. Here's something that hasn't been mentioned: you will have to get accustomed to a little more work to keep your system up to date rather than using the rpm (or YOU) command. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html Definetly read the handbook back and forth.. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ That updates all system binaries, libs, etc. All third party applications that aren't part of the FreeBSD base OS (the ports collection) are installed under /usr/local and /usr/X11R6
There are differences between Suse and FreeBSD, FreeBSD is UNIX and its commands are a bit different, I use FreeBSD and its installation is similar to Slackware (slackware tendency is BSD), FreeBSD have text based tools for configure video, and you can install or uninstall ports, configure the system, etc, using 'sysinstall' command, is too simple. Oviously Suse is more friendly that UNIX, but depends if you want a server or workstation. FreeBSD also have interfases like Gnome 2.4, KDE 3.1 (FreeBSD 5.2) and others. Basically the differences are in configuration files like, unique rc.conf, etc, etc. On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 09:50, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Hi,
I have a possible job oppotunity comiong up where my employer uses an NT and FreeBSD network.
Now, whilst I am certainly comfortable on NT, and will try and switch it to SuSE/FreeBSD, I am wondering how different the FreeBSD OS is to learn as opposed to SuSE 9.0, ie can KDE still be installed and does it work basically the same for filesystem locations and commands etc?
Appreciated -- ======================================================================== Hylton Conacher - Licenced ex-Windows user (apart from Quicken) Registered Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org Using SuSE 9.0 with KDE 3.1 ======================================================================== -- Ing. Eddy D. Sanchez Salas Encargado de Sistemas e Internet U D A B O L
"Eddy D. Sanchez Salas"
There are differences between Suse and FreeBSD, FreeBSD is UNIX and ...
UNIX is a trademark at present and only certified systems can use it (http://www.unix.org/). IMHO it is a source of confusion since for instance BSD from UCB has always been known as UNIX but neither BSD nor FreeBSD have been certified by the Open Group to use this trademark. -- A.M.
Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Hi,
I have a possible job oppotunity comiong up where my employer uses an NT and FreeBSD network.
Now, whilst I am certainly comfortable on NT, and will try and switch it to SuSE/FreeBSD, I am wondering how different the FreeBSD OS is to learn as opposed to SuSE 9.0, ie can KDE still be installed and does it work basically the same for filesystem locations and commands etc?
Appreciated
I played with it once on a laptop, best to download a copy and install it on a spare box if you can get one. KDE as someone else said looks the same and using the menues you can't tell the difference, but the filesystem layout is quite different, similar to devfs on linux and UFS on Solaris, but very different and takes some getting used to. The commands - perhaps you can find a command ref on the net to cope with the differences. A week playing with a box should set you up nicely. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer Linux Only Shop.
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 09:50, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Hi,
I have a possible job oppotunity comiong up where my employer uses an NT and FreeBSD network. I have found the Unix rosetta stone to be useful:
http://bhami.com/rosetta.html It has saved me once or twice on a new system :) I have printed it out and keep it in my "emergency" folder :)
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Gary
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