[opensuse] Guidelines, tips and tricks for small server
Hi! I've got new new hardware coming in. This time Atom 330 and couple of 2Tb drives and probably a small 2.5" laptop drive for system. I'll "mirror" the data drives with rsync in a lazy schedule (not going to mirror them with raid). Anyways, it's been a long time since I've tried to install openSUSE anywhere. So, I'd like to hear suggestions for what to install and how. (yes, I just saw the other thread with Atom 330 problem - I hope the Intel BIOS update fixes it for me too) Which version of openSUSE should I go with? I'm going with 64-bit, but I mean should I install 10.x, 11.0 or 11.1 or what? The server will mostly be out of touch (i.e. I wont have access to fix things...) Which package manage system should I use? This is going to be file server with X (remote) for occasional other work. Maybe even screen and keyboard. Which KDE should I install? Does remote X still work out of the box (from another linux or cygwin/X)? How can I deactivate (not install) Beagle at all? What other similar software should I specifically check and not install? Thanks for all the tips! -- HG. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:00 PM, HG
Hi!
I've got new new hardware coming in. This time Atom 330 and couple of 2Tb drives and probably a small 2.5" laptop drive for system. I'll "mirror" the data drives with rsync in a lazy schedule (not going to mirror them with raid).
Anyways, it's been a long time since I've tried to install openSUSE anywhere. So, I'd like to hear suggestions for what to install and how. (yes, I just saw the other thread with Atom 330 problem - I hope the Intel BIOS update fixes it for me too)
check the thread "Atom 330 64 bit OpenSUSE 11.1" which was some days ago, they mentioned some problems with Atom 330 and the default kernel on 11.1
Which version of openSUSE should I go with? I'm going with 64-bit, but I mean should I install 10.x, 11.0 or 11.1 or what? The server will mostly be out of touch (i.e. I wont have access to fix things...)
I would say 11.1
Which package manage system should I use?
zypper
This is going to be file server with X (remote) for occasional other work. Maybe even screen and keyboard. Which KDE should I install? Does remote X still work out of the box (from another linux or cygwin/X)?
you can install FreeNX, fast, secure, ...
How can I deactivate (not install) Beagle at all?
http://www.vioan.ro/wp/2009/03/02/remove-beagle-on-opensuse-111/
What other similar software should I specifically check and not install?
here, I would say to install ONLY what you need, and to disable also the services which you don't need/use
Thanks for all the tips!
Cheers, -- === Ioan Vancea http://www.vioan.ro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
HG wrote:
Anyways, it's been a long time since I've tried to install openSUSE anywhere. So, I'd like to hear suggestions for what to install and how. (yes, I just saw the other thread with Atom 330 problem - I hope the Intel BIOS update fixes it for me too)
Which version of openSUSE should I go with? I'm going with 64-bit, but I mean should I install 10.x, 11.0 or 11.1 or what? The server will mostly be out of touch (i.e. I wont have access to fix things...)
Which package manage system should I use?
This is going to be file server with X (remote) for occasional other work. Maybe even screen and keyboard. Which KDE should I install? Does remote X still work out of the box (from another linux or cygwin/X)?
How can I deactivate (not install) Beagle at all? What other similar software should I specifically check and not install?
Nothing much to say really - I've just finished moving a server to a new 11.1 box, 99% vanilla openSUSE. Minor customizations: - don't install beagle (YaST->software=>search->beagle->remove) - only runlevel 3 (defaults when you install over ssh). - disable avahi after install is complete - install SNMP + HP management tools - KDE 3.5 (only for konsole) - remove lots of desktop-only packages That's about it. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.1°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
HG wrote:
Hi!
I've got new new hardware coming in. This time Atom 330 and couple of 2Tb drives and probably a small 2.5" laptop drive for system. I'll "mirror" the data drives with rsync in a lazy schedule (not going to mirror them with raid).
Anyways, it's been a long time since I've tried to install openSUSE anywhere. So, I'd like to hear suggestions for what to install and how. (yes, I just saw the other thread with Atom 330 problem - I hope the Intel BIOS update fixes it for me too)
I was one participating on that thread. Worry not... All of us on the Atom 330, may have a few problems, but all of us made it through with openSUSE 11.1 x86_64, one way of an another.
Which version of openSUSE should I go with? I'm going with 64-bit, but I mean should I install 10.x, 11.0 or 11.1 or what? The server will mostly be out of touch (i.e. I wont have access to fix things...)
I installed openSUSE 11.1 x86_64 on it. Works great :) I have few things on it: HTTP, LDAP, SMTP, "router", SMB, NFS, POP3-SSL, CA Management, and many other services. Just as an advice: Do not install a 64bits system with a minimal RAM configuration. If possible, install at least 1GB. Prefer 2GB if you can afford it.
Which package manage system should I use?
This is going to be file server with X (remote) for occasional other work. Maybe even screen and keyboard. Which KDE should I install? Does remote X still work out of the box (from another linux or cygwin/X)?
How can I deactivate (not install) Beagle at all? What other similar software should I specifically check and not install?
Thanks for all the tips!
-- Rui Santos http://www.ruisantos.com/ Veni, vidi, Linux! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rui Santos wrote:
Just as an advice: Do not install a 64bits system with a minimal RAM configuration. If possible, install at least 1GB. Prefer 2GB if you can afford it.
On a general purpose server, unless it's got 4Gb or more I only use 32bit. Just my own rule-of-thumb. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.9°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Thanks for all the comments. I'm still waiting for some delayed hardware and haven't been able to start with this.
Just as an advice: Do not install a 64bits system with a minimal RAM configuration. If possible, install at least 1GB. Prefer 2GB if you can afford it.
I got couple of mentions of this. The board supports 2Gb of memory and that is quite cheap. However, I really do not quite understand why not to install 64-bit OS on 64-bit CPU (I think Atom 330 is 64-bit, but haven't checked yet). Is 64-bit systems still unmatured? Or why? -- HG. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi! On Wednesday 08 April 2009 18:23:40 HG wrote:
I got couple of mentions of this. The board supports 2Gb of memory and that is quite cheap. However, I really do not quite understand why not to install 64-bit OS on 64-bit CPU (I think Atom 330 is 64-bit, but haven't checked yet). Is 64-bit systems still unmatured? Or why?
Well, there are some tradeoffs. 64-bit allows you to use some more registers and allows more memory to be addressed. However 32-bit is enought to address anything you might want to address in 2Gb of memory and 64-bit memory calculations are more expensive then 32-bit ones. Regards, Matthias
In <6f133dde0904080923k6f5296e9i6f3be3b80cedf638@mail.gmail.com>, HG wrote:
Thanks for all the comments. I'm still waiting for some delayed hardware and haven't been able to start with this.
Just as an advice: Do not install a 64bits system with a minimal RAM configuration. If possible, install at least 1GB. Prefer 2GB if you can afford it.
I got couple of mentions of this. The board supports 2Gb of memory and that is quite cheap. However, I really do not quite understand why not to install 64-bit OS on 64-bit CPU (I think Atom 330 is 64-bit, but haven't checked yet). Is 64-bit systems still unmatured? Or why?
All the memory addresses take up twice the space. Memory addresses are often stored in memory, so a 64-bit application will take more RAM than a 32-bit application, I've heard up to 30%. Most individual applications do not gain significant performance by moving from 32-bit to 64-bit and do not need to access more than 4GiB-4KiB of memory. So, you probably lose more than you gain installing 64-bit everything on a system with only 2GiB of memory. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
On Wednesday April 8 2009, HG wrote:
Thanks for all the comments. I'm still waiting for some delayed hardware and haven't been able to start with this.
Just as an advice: Do not install a 64bits system with a minimal RAM configuration. If possible, install at least 1GB. Prefer 2GB if you can afford it.
I got couple of mentions of this. The board supports 2Gb of memory and that is quite cheap. However, I really do not quite understand why not to install 64-bit OS on 64-bit CPU (I think Atom 330 is 64-bit, but haven't checked yet). Is 64-bit systems still unmatured? Or why?
This comes up periodically. I'll restate my personal "conventional wisdom:" Don't use a 64-bit installation unless you have a demonstrated need for it. That means you have applications that require a virtual address space that cannot be accommodated in a 32-bit programming model. If you have only 2GB of physical RAM, you better not have a need for 64-bit addressing, 'cause all that really exploiting is likely to do is give your swap devices one hell of a workout.
-- HG.
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 08 April 2009 11:23:40 am HG wrote:
Thanks for all the comments. I'm still waiting for some delayed hardware and haven't been able to start with this.
Just as an advice: Do not install a 64bits system with a minimal RAM configuration. If possible, install at least 1GB. Prefer 2GB if you can afford it.
I got couple of mentions of this. The board supports 2Gb of memory and that is quite cheap. However, I really do not quite understand why not to install 64-bit OS on 64-bit CPU (I think Atom 330 is 64-bit, but haven't checked yet). Is 64-bit systems still unmatured? Or why?
In my experience it runs better then 32 bit, as in stability and speed. It is the fact that majority of developers have 64 bit machines, so the most skilled debuggers use 64 bit systems. It is hard to tell what fits the best to your usage pattern. You plan to use it as a server, where 2 GB of RAM can be scarce, but again, server applications differ wildly in hardware requirements. On a desktop side, any image manipulation will benefit from features built in 64 bit processors that are not supported in 32 bit systems, and ability to move double amount of data in the same time. There is (old) cliche about web browsing, as the most used and for computer hardware and software low demanding usage pattern, but that doesn't hold for the user that frequent YouTube and other web sites rich in Flash content. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
HG wrote:
Hi!
I've got new new hardware coming in. This time Atom 330 and couple of 2Tb drives and probably a small 2.5" laptop drive for system. I'll "mirror" the data drives with rsync in a lazy schedule (not going to mirror them with raid).
Anyways, it's been a long time since I've tried to install openSUSE anywhere. So, I'd like to hear suggestions for what to install and how. (yes, I just saw the other thread with Atom 330 problem - I hope the Intel BIOS update fixes it for me too)
Which version of openSUSE should I go with? I'm going with 64-bit, but I mean should I install 10.x, 11.0 or 11.1 or what? The server will mostly be out of touch (i.e. I wont have access to fix things...)
Which package manage system should I use?
This is going to be file server with X (remote) for occasional other work. Maybe even screen and keyboard. Which KDE should I install? Does remote X still work out of the box (from another linux or cygwin/X)?
How can I deactivate (not install) Beagle at all? What other similar software should I specifically check and not install?
Thanks for all the tips!
HG, Take a look at my openSuSE Server Setup page, it hold a nugget or two you might find useful: http://www.3111skyline.com/linux/openSuSE-server.php -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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