On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 19:01 +0800, Art Fore wrote:

On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 11:20 +0100, Matthew Stringer wrote:

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Anyone know of where this is available, only sites I've seen offer downloads via BitTorrent which will take ages.

Regards

Matthew

Glad to see that I am not the only who has slow downloads via bittorrent, and you are considerably closer to OpenSuse than I am. (Taiwan)

Art

Just tried it in Suse 10.2, it came up 27 days after about 10 minutes. 10.2 Beta2 is coming up a more reasonable 3 day, but that is still a long time. Art -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 19:01 +0800, Art Fore wrote:

On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 11:20 +0100, Matthew Stringer wrote:

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Anyone know of where this is available, only sites I've seen offer downloads via BitTorrent which will take ages.

Regards

Matthew

Glad to see that I am not the only who has slow downloads via bittorrent, and you are considerably closer to OpenSuse than I am. (Taiwan)

I think it could be useful if it was announced a few days ahead. The we could all start our torrents then the starter pistol fires and be happy. I downloaded the latest beta last weekend and it averaged 300kb or so. Not bad. But it still took a long time. I can understand a policy of torrent only for a certain time after the initial release, when activity should keep the download time reasonable. Does the OpenSUSE torrent track how many systems are downloading? Perhaps, when that dips below some reasonable number, the more direct access can be enabled? BTW, I like lots of what I see in 10.3. Only a few warts. I am going to check the bugzilla and see if I have anything not known. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hans Witvliet wrote:

Just noticed that torrent is horrible slow. a couple of days ago i could get beta-2 at 24Mbps, but beta-3 crawls at 200kbps.

torrent is pretty fast when many people share, that is mostly when a new distro is out (and usually known sharer have the torrents two days before the given day) for an old one, better use ftp jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Bob Williams [09-08-07 07:11]:

Sharing is what it's all about.

YES

I've just downloaded beta 3 overnight, and I noticed that most of the peers I was leeching from were at less than 100% download. In other words, we were all in the process of downloading/uploading to each other. Of the peers who had 100% of the download, only two were seeding me, suggesting that the remainder had switched off their upload capability as soon as they had got the whole file. My upload is still running, and will continue to do so until I have given back to the community the 4GB I got.

Why stop? If everyone follows that criteria, the pipe will flow empty. I have seeded 8+ copies of betas 1 and 2 and will leave 3 seeding until RC1 is released, and then move to RC1.....

Currently uploading to clients in Spain, Japan, UK and Turkey.

Hopefully, that will improve everyone's experience.

If you don't stop... -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hans Witvliet writes:

Just noticed that torrent is horrible slow. a couple of days ago i could get beta-2 at 24Mbps, but beta-3 crawls at 200kbps. I just have to sleep over it ;-)

Please seed it as well. The problem is that there are not enough seeders and if everybody keeps seeding after the download, we should have a better situation. Andreas - who just copied the x86-64 DVD to his laptop and seeds it now from home -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-09-07 at 10:07 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:

Download the delta iso and use applydeltaiso to the old iso.

applydeltaiso

which is also cpu intensive for a lonnnnng time.

I've been using this method since 10.0, downloads are much quicker and applying the delta is certainly much faster then waiting for the torrents to finish.

Provided you already have the old_iso, which I don't. Right now, the torrent is incoming at 20 Kb/s, less than my outgoing side. Sometimes it ups to 100KB/s, the maximum my adsl can manage. But it doesn't keep. Ah! A chap from Korea was feeding me with 60KB/s an hour ago. Very nice, considering we are half a world apart... - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG4WH5tTMYHG2NR9URAoeRAJsE3t5cC90JoMqZM948XDdI5/q7SgCeMF8m ivW0OQAuf0y2XDCNn1tu4tU= =z32S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 07/09/2007, Matthew Stringer wrote:

On Friday 07 September 2007 15:07:58 Kenneth Schneider wrote:

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On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 10:01 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:

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On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 11:20 +0100, Matthew Stringer wrote:

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Anyone know of where this is available, only sites I've seen offer downloads via BitTorrent which will take ages.

http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/

Should have added...

Download the delta iso and use applydeltaiso to the old iso.

applydeltaiso

I've been using this method since 10.0, downloads are much quicker and applying the delta is certainly much faster then waiting for the torrents to finish.

Forgive me, not done this before so the old iso would be a 10.2 DVD ISO or do I need a 10.3 DVD image of some sort to start off with?

http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/10.3-Beta3/iso/delta/ For 10.3-Beta3, deltas are only available from 10.3-Beta2, and 10.3-Beta2 has deltas from 10.3-Beta1. The mirror in question does not carry older ISOs, though, so your best bet would be downloading the full ISO this time and then applying the deltas for RC1 and RC2. Regards, -- Michel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Kenneth Schneider wrote:- <snip>

Download the delta iso and use applydeltaiso to the old iso.

applydeltaiso

I've been using this method since 10.0, downloads are much quicker and applying the delta is certainly much faster then waiting for the torrents to finish.

Upto the removal of the separate CDs ISOs, I used to download the deltas using FTP and start sharing them. Then I applied the deltas to create the full CDs and started sharing those. With the removal of the CD ISOs, I had to download the full DVD ISO. Since then I've gone back to the "download delta, start sharing it, apply delta, start sharing full DVD"[0]. Being distinctly lazy, I configured Azureus to auto-start torrents in a particular directory and then scripted everything so all I need to do is start it off and go to bed. By the time I get up the following morning, the full DVD ISO is ready and the both the delta and full ISO are already being shared. [0] Well, this time I've also got the Gnome and KDE CDs being shared as well since I had a play about with them and makeSUSEdvd to add the Packman repo right from the start. I would have added Guru as well, but the 10.3 repo is empty and the beta2 installation crashed when it was enabled :| Got to have another go and see if they've fixed that bug. Regards, David Bolt -- Member of Team Acorn checking nodes at 100 Mnodes/s: www.distributed.net RISC OS 3.11 | SUSE 10.0 32bit | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit RISC OS 3.6 | SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit TOS 4.02 | SUSE 9.3 32bit | | openSUSE 10.3b2 32bit -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org