Hi! I'm using Linux for some months. I would like to know which web browser are you using and which mail reader/news reader are you using. I'm looking for a web browser not too slow that support all plugins to access all web sites. Also, i'm looking for a mail reader that support addressbook, show a page web in a email, and all common features. I want it to be fast and I don't want to wait 1 hours before the message is sent. Thanks for your answer I would like to know what is most popular. Martin _________________________________________________________________ Discutez en ligne avec vos amis, essayez MSN Messenger : http://messenger.msn.fr
I'm using Linux for some months. I would like to know which web browser are you using and which mail reader/news reader are you using. I'm looking for a web browser not too slow that support all plugins to access all web sites. Also, i'm looking for a mail reader that support addressbook, show a page web in a email, and all common features. I want it to be fast and I don't want to wait 1 hours before the message is sent. Thanks for your answer I would like to know what is most popular.
Mail: kmail, it supports everything I have any use for, including an address book. Web: usually konqueror, sometimes opera or mozilla regards Anders
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 09:04:17 -0500
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I'm looking for a web browser not too slow that support all plugins to access all web sites.
Hello Martin, If you are looking for a browser that has equivalent functionality to Ie, in the sense that it will correctly render every single website that Ie can render, and run all the Ie plugins, then I am afraid that it does not exist under linux and it is not likely to exist anytime soon - if ever. This is especially true of commercial sites that make extensive use of Java, plugins, layers and other features whose aim is to "enhance your browsing experience". There are several reasons for this (technical, legal, philosophical), only some of which I understand, but the bottom line is that if you cannot put up with some inconsistencies and occasional failures, then you may as well give up now and run Ie under vmware. That, at least, is my experience based on Netscape, Mozilla, Galeon and Opera. I have not made serious use of konqueror and so I am sorry if I am doing it an injustice. For my own part, I *am* prepared to put up with those inconsistencies and occasional failures, and I fall back on vmware/Ie *only* when I have absolutely no other choice - for example because I have to access a site for business purposes.
Also, i'm looking for a mail reader that support addressbook, show a page web in a email, and all common features. I want it to be fast and I don't want to wait 1 hours before the message is sent.
Sylpheed will do it all *except" the html email (which is an abomination in any case). Regards, Geoff _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, wrote:
I'm using Linux for some months. I would like to know which web browser are you using and which mail reader/news reader are you using. I'm looking for a web browser not too slow that support all plugins to access all web sites. Also, i'm looking for a mail reader that support
Mail: good old pine--mail on server, accessed over telnet, read everywhere :) Browser: main browser, 1. Netscape 6.2.1; 2. Opera 6.0 beta release 3; 3. Konquerer. Not all plugins have been made for Linux so that limits the access when running Linux. -- Ragnar Steingrimsson | Department of Cognitive Sciences UC-Irvine, SSPA 3151 | Email: ragnar@uci.edu Irvine, CA 92697 | Small Green Men
->Mail: good old pine--mail on server, accessed over telnet, read everywhere ^^^^^^ Or Mutt..but PLEASE use ssh to access your machine remotely. Because telnet is a security risk and we have enough nimba'ed Windows users out there who don't care about security :) ->Browser: main browser, 1. Netscape 6.2.1; 2. Opera 6.0 beta release 3; 3. ->Konquerer. Mozilla 0.9.7 or Netscape 6.2.1 (any versions below these have a cookies problem which is a security risk) ->Not all plugins have been made for Linux so that limits the access when ->running Linux. Not "completely " true..you can get the Codeweavers CrossOver plugin which lets you run Windows Netscape plugins for things such as Shockwave, Quicktime and many others with Linux browsers. :) CrossOver works like a charm. I purchased it about 3 months ago. It's not free beer or free speech..but damn it I have QT again and this makes me happy. I can see the Spiderman trailer and everything else at Apple.com which rocks. Cheers! -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message...
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
->Mail: good old pine--mail on server, accessed over telnet, read everywhere ^^^^^^ Or Mutt..but PLEASE use ssh to access your machine remotely. Because telnet is a security risk and we have enough nimba'ed Windows users out there who don't care about security :)
Ben has a good point. Without going into details, my home machine is only accessible from another (work) machine that is only accessible with ssh. However, I frequently run into the problem when "on the road" that the only OS I have access to is Windows and only has telnet. Normally, I use secureCRT from http://www.vandyke.com. However, it is not free but I survive on evaluation copies valid for 30 days. Now the question, does anyone have a suggestion for a good, easy, and free ssh remote access client that runs on windows (I have tried PuTTY but it did not make me happy--it is still in beta so it may improve). Best regards, -- Ragnar Steingrimsson | Department of Cognitive Sciences UC-Irvine, SSPA 3151 | Email: ragnar@uci.edu Irvine, CA 92697 | Small Green Men
* Ragnar Steingrimsson (ragnar@uci.edu) [020127 17:54]: ->On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Ben Rosenberg wrote: -> ->> ->Mail: good old pine--mail on server, accessed over telnet, read everywhere ->> ^^^^^^ ->> Or Mutt..but PLEASE use ssh to access your machine remotely. Because ->> telnet is a security risk and we have enough nimba'ed Windows users out ->> there who don't care about security :) -> ->Ben has a good point. Without going into details, my home machine is only ->accessible from another (work) machine that is only accessible with ssh. ->However, I frequently run into the problem when "on the road" that the ->only OS I have access to is Windows and only has telnet. Normally, I ->use secureCRT from http://www.vandyke.com. However, it is not free but I ->survive on evaluation copies valid for 30 days. Putty has worked for me on more then once. It works quite well and fits on a floppy :) -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message...
go to www.tucows.com and search for Secure SSH. There are several freeware, as well
as shareware, SSH programs.
Jim
01/27/02 07:52:35 PM, Ragnar Steingrimsson
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
->Mail: good old pine--mail on server, accessed over telnet, read everywhere ^^^^^^ Or Mutt..but PLEASE use ssh to access your machine remotely. Because telnet is a security risk and we have enough nimba'ed Windows users out there who don't care about security :)
Ben has a good point. Without going into details, my home machine is only accessible from another (work) machine that is only accessible with ssh. However, I frequently run into the problem when "on the road" that the only OS I have access to is Windows and only has telnet. Normally, I use secureCRT from http://www.vandyke.com. However, it is not free but I survive on evaluation copies valid for 30 days.
Now the question, does anyone have a suggestion for a good, easy, and free ssh remote access client that runs on windows (I have tried PuTTY but it did not make me happy--it is still in beta so it may improve).
Best regards,
-- Ragnar Steingrimsson | Department of Cognitive Sciences UC-Irvine, SSPA 3151 | Email: ragnar@uci.edu Irvine, CA 92697 | Small Green Men
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On Monday 28 January 2002 01:52, Ragnar Steingrimsson wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
->Mail: good old pine--mail on server, accessed over telnet, read everywhere ^^^^^^ Or Mutt..but PLEASE use ssh to access your machine remotely. Because telnet is a security risk and we have enough nimba'ed Windows users out there who don't care about security :)
Now the question, does anyone have a suggestion for a good, easy, and free ssh remote access client that runs on windows (I have tried PuTTY but it did not make me happy--it is still in beta so it may improve).
PuTTY recently had a new beta out; and the folks behind it (the Green End mob up in Cambridge - Rich Kettlewell, Simon Tatham, LNR and a few others) were quite enthusiastic about it; have you tried v0.52 as opposed to v0.51? I've also had a workmate use Tera Term Pro with ssh, and she swore by it; unlike CRT it doesn't cost anything. Gideon.
On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 04:42, Gideon Hallett wrote:
PuTTY recently had a new beta out; .. I've also had a workmate use Tera Term Pro with ssh
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On Sunday 27 January 2002 09:04 am, wrote:
I'm using Linux for some months. I would like to know which web browser are you using and which mail reader/news reader are you using.
I'm using Mozilla and Kmail, and occasionally Konqueor, especially for it's better plug-in support. (Mozilla can have plugins that work, but I forgot how I did it before I upgraded my OS. Can anybody help?) If you like GNOME Galeon, which is essentially a lighter-weight version of Mozilla, is a browser a lot of people like. I find the GNOME interface annoying though, and I have enough RAM and a fast enough hard-drive that I can afford Mozilla's overhead most of the time. Evolution is a better mail editor than Kmail unless you have very large folders, but the one included with SuSE is, uncharacteristically compared to the rest of their selection of packages, a very old and buggy version; and it's a lot of trouble to download all the packages it depends on at 56kbps. Kmail is good enough, and integrates well with KDE, so I stick with it.
On Sunday 27 January 2002 09:04 am, wrote: | I'm using Linux for some months. I would like to know which web | browser are you using and which mail reader/news reader are you | using. i thought i'd been using netscape a lot until i realized that i hadn't had it even installed since upgrading to 7.3 when it came out. so i'm using opera and konqueror to browse; kmail for mail, and knode, which i'm beginning to think is the best newsreader ever, for news. -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand.
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, wrote:
I'm using Linux for some months. I would like to know which web browser are you using and which mail reader/news reader are you using. I'm looking for a web browser not too slow that support all plugins to access all web sites. Also, i'm looking for a mail reader that support addressbook, show a page web in a email, and all common features. I want it to be fast and I don't want to wait 1 hours before the message is sent. Thanks for your answer I would like to know what is most popular.
My work environment: o Mail/News: Pine (4.44 incl. patches for threading support) - it can disply plain HTML mails inline and can fire up external apps for displaying other formats (incl. opening URLs in a running browser). o Web browsing: Konqueror (2.2.2) or Galeon (1.0) Hope that helps! Let us know about your results as well! Bye, LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Deutschherrnstr. 15-19 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer/ 90429 Nuernberg, Germany The wife of a careless man is almost a widow.
I use KMail for mail. And Mozilla 0.9.6 for web browsing. Actually I like to use Konq more & more. Because it has the same engine (mozilla)... is it?? But Konq lack several feature. * do not load cookies from 3rd parties. * work offline (I know it's available, but it's too far too reach, mozilla work offline is very well placed)
On Monday 28 January 2002 03:48 pm, you wrote:
I use KMail for mail.
Me too, mostly because of procmail problems when I ran mutt. KMail's filters are a no-brainer, though when SuSE starts distributing evolution 1.x I might switch to that.
And Mozilla 0.9.6 for web browsing.
Actually I like to use Konq more & more. Because it has the same engine (mozilla)... is it??
No, Konq uses by default KHTML, which is fairly good though not as mature as Gecko, Mozilla's engine. You can configure Konq to use Gecko, but I prefer to have it use it's own engine.
But Konq lack several feature. * do not load cookies from 3rd parties.
You can set it to do so, it's default is to ask, if you set "all cookies from this domain" it won't ask that often after a while since the 3rd party cookies you don't want all come from the same few advertising companies; which once you have them blocked Konq won't bother you anymore. :-)
* work offline (I know it's available, but it's too far too reach, mozilla work offline is very well placed)
I don't know too much about working offline, I have unlimited internet on a flat-rate line. Such is life in the US, one of the few good things about our infrastructure are non-metered phone lines and internet. What domain is .id?
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 19:07, Joshua Lee wrote: <snip>
No, Konq uses by default KHTML, which is fairly good though not as mature as Gecko, Mozilla's engine. You can configure Konq to use Gecko, but I prefer to have it use it's own engine.
thanks for the info. Somehow I under impresion that KHTML is a gecko
But Konq lack several feature. * do not load cookies from 3rd parties.
You can set it to do so, it's default is to ask, if you set "all cookies from this domain" it won't ask that often after a while since the 3rd party cookies you don't want all come from the same few advertising companies; which once you have them blocked Konq won't bother you anymore. :-)
Hmm.. What konq version you have? I use SuSE 7.3Pro + KDE 2.2.2 (konq ver 2.2.2) and there were only 3 choice for Konq * Ask conformation * Accept all * Reject all I don't like the accept all & reject all. Ask conformation is only good if I'm using it. For my dad & my mom, they don't read, just click yes/no (random).
* work offline (I know it's available, but it's too far too reach, mozilla work offline is very well placed)
I don't know too much about working offline, I have unlimited internet on a flat-rate line. Such is life in the US, one of the few good things about our infrastructure are non-metered phone lines and internet.
Such a plan is costing more than an arm & a leg here... It's costing a head 16kbps unlimited access (cable modem) cost US$ 50 here. (but only available in select area... mine doesn't.... arrggghhh) for 64kbps unlimeted access (cable modem) cost US$ 300 US$300 is VERY BIG here. <OT> a servant salary around US$ 35 - US$ 50/month a office secetary salary around US$90 - US$ 200 a 1 litre gasoline around US$ 0.30 1 big mac packet around US$ 1.3 and only middle - upper class eat big mac. middle - lower clas eat at 'warung' that around US$ 0.30 - US$ 0.80. you got the idea....... </OT>
What domain is .id?
Indonesia
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 09:04:17 -0500
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Hi!
I'm using Linux for some months. I would like to know which web browser are you using and which mail reader/news reader are you using. I'm looking for a web browser not too slow that support all plugins to access all web sites. Also, i'm looking for a mail reader that support addressbook, show a page web in a email, and all common features. I want it to be fast and I don't want to wait 1 hours before the message is sent. Thanks for your answer I would like to know what is most popular.
Martin
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Hi!
I'm using Linux for some months. I would like to know which web browser are you using and which mail reader/news reader are you using. I'm looking for a web browser not too slow that support all plugins to access all web sites. Also, i'm looking for a mail reader that support addressbook, show a page web in a email, and all common features. I want it to be fast and I don't want to wait 1 hours before the message is sent. Thanks for your answer I would like to know what is most popular.
Martin
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