On Friday 07 October 2005 20:07, Alexander S. Usov wrote:
On Friday 07 October 2005 12:19, Alexander S. Usov wrote:
Hi!
I have just installed 10.0 and have a strange problem with automounting cd's. It looks, that as compared to 9.3 they both have a subfs mount points defined with "noauto" flag, but in case of 9.3 somewhere half-way through the boot-up process a "/usr/sbin/hald-subfs-mount" gets called and it mounts subfs over /media. However this doesn't happen to me with 10.0, and I have to mount it manually.
Are there some suggestions on how to resolve it properly? At the time I have just removed noauto flag, but it should have been there for a good reason I suppose :)
have done a bit more investigations, and it seems that in mine installation the hotplug part is not working correctly. It doesn't reacts on plugging in external usb hdd, it doesn't mounts subfs stuff, and even a basic stuff like lshal, hal-device or hal-device-manager doesn't work dying with some strange errors like $ lshal lshal version 0.5.4 error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)
Hello Alexander, I have the same problem here. No automountig for CD, DVD, USB-Sticks, CompactFlash etc. The hal-daemon seems not no work as it shoud. I had a clean installation from DVD. Greetings Mathias
Please join the other thread: Re: [opensuse] THE HELL: mounted, almost mounted or UMOUNTED DVD !!!! Same topic as yours. Strangely some people do not have any such problem at all. I'm one of them. Shriramana.
Am Dienstag 11 Oktober 2005 19:01 schrieb Mathias Heier:
On Friday 07 October 2005 20:07, Alexander S. Usov wrote:
On Friday 07 October 2005 12:19, Alexander S. Usov wrote:
Hi!
I have just installed 10.0 and have a strange problem with automounting cd's. It looks, that as compared to 9.3 they both have a subfs mount points defined with "noauto" flag, but in case of 9.3 somewhere half-way through the boot-up process a "/usr/sbin/hald-subfs-mount" gets called and it mounts subfs over /media. However this doesn't happen to me with 10.0, and I have to mount it manually.
Are there some suggestions on how to resolve it properly? At the time I have just removed noauto flag, but it should have been there for a good reason I suppose :)
have done a bit more investigations, and it seems that in mine installation the hotplug part is not working correctly. It doesn't reacts on plugging in external usb hdd, it doesn't mounts subfs stuff, and even a basic stuff like lshal, hal-device or hal-device-manager doesn't work dying with some strange errors like $ lshal lshal version 0.5.4 error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)
Hello Alexander,
I have the same problem here. No automountig for CD, DVD, USB-Sticks, CompactFlash etc. The hal-daemon seems not no work as it shoud. I had a clean installation from DVD.
Hello, it seems that the package 'hal-0.5.4-6.i586.rpm' from SuSE is broken. It should contain the file 'hald-addon-usb-csr', but it doesn't. So get the source package from a SuSE-server and rebuild it (lots of devel-packages needed, not all of them are on DVD), and it will work. Greetings Mathias
Wednesday 12 Oct 2005 13:49 samaye Mathias Heier alekhiit:
it seems that the package 'hal-0.5.4-6.i586.rpm' from SuSE is broken. It should contain the file 'hald-addon-usb-csr', but it doesn't. So get the source package from a SuSE-server and rebuild it (lots of devel-packages needed, not all of them are on DVD), and it will work.
How did you find this out and how come the package is working for some of us? I wiped my root partition from RC1 and installed GM. Shriramana.
Am Mittwoch 12 Oktober 2005 10:55 schrieb Shriramana Sharma:
Wednesday 12 Oct 2005 13:49 samaye Mathias Heier alekhiit:
it seems that the package 'hal-0.5.4-6.i586.rpm' from SuSE is broken. It should contain the file 'hald-addon-usb-csr', but it doesn't. So get the source package from a SuSE-server and rebuild it (lots of devel-packages needed, not all of them are on DVD), and it will work.
How did you find this out and how come the package is working for some of us? I wiped my root partition from RC1 and installed GM.
Every action by hal crashed, for example lshal reported 'error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)' So I started 'hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes' on console and it said that the file 'hald-addon-usb-csr' was missing. 'rpm -ql' said that it is not in the package. So I built it new from the SRPM and it works.
Mathias Heier schrieb:
Am Mittwoch 12 Oktober 2005 10:55 schrieb Shriramana Sharma:
Wednesday 12 Oct 2005 13:49 samaye Mathias Heier alekhiit:
it seems that the package 'hal-0.5.4-6.i586.rpm' from SuSE is broken. It should contain the file 'hald-addon-usb-csr', but it doesn't. So get the source package from a SuSE-server and rebuild it (lots of devel-packages needed, not all of them are on DVD), and it will work.
How did you find this out and how come the package is working for some of us? I wiped my root partition from RC1 and installed GM.
Every action by hal crashed, for example lshal reported 'error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)' So I started 'hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes' on console and it said that the file 'hald-addon-usb-csr' was missing. 'rpm -ql' said that it is not in the package. So I built it new from the SRPM and it works.
Please open a bug for this. Regards, Carl-Daniel
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 11:47, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
Mathias Heier schrieb:
Am Mittwoch 12 Oktober 2005 10:55 schrieb Shriramana Sharma:
Wednesday 12 Oct 2005 13:49 samaye Mathias Heier alekhiit:
it seems that the package 'hal-0.5.4-6.i586.rpm' from SuSE is broken. It should contain the file 'hald-addon-usb-csr', but it doesn't. So get the source package from a SuSE-server and rebuild it (lots of devel-packages needed, not all of them are on DVD), and it will work.
How did you find this out and how come the package is working for some of us? I wiped my root partition from RC1 and installed GM.
Every action by hal crashed, for example lshal reported 'error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)' So I started 'hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes' on console and it said that the file 'hald-addon-usb-csr' was missing. 'rpm -ql' said that it is not in the package. So I built it new from the SRPM and it works.
Please open a bug for this.
Probably I could just add a followup to the one I have already opened (121913). At least now we know the solution ;) -- Best regards, Alexander.
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 14:00, Alexander S. Usov wrote:
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 11:47, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
Mathias Heier schrieb:
Am Mittwoch 12 Oktober 2005 10:55 schrieb Shriramana Sharma:
Wednesday 12 Oct 2005 13:49 samaye Mathias Heier alekhiit:
it seems that the package 'hal-0.5.4-6.i586.rpm' from SuSE is broken. It should contain the file 'hald-addon-usb-csr', but it doesn't. So get the source package from a SuSE-server and rebuild it (lots of devel-packages needed, not all of them are on DVD), and it will work.
How did you find this out and how come the package is working for some of us? I wiped my root partition from RC1 and installed GM.
Every action by hal crashed, for example lshal reported 'error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)' So I started 'hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes' on console and it said that the file 'hald-addon-usb-csr' was missing. 'rpm -ql' said that it is not in the package. So I built it new from the SRPM and it works.
Please open a bug for this.
Probably I could just add a followup to the one I have already opened (121913). At least now we know the solution ;)
So, I have just submitted a comment to the bug with the description of the problem. A question however is -- if I am going to recompile it myself (without changing the version number) and will simply install it over the original one, wouldn't it break the YoU update later? -- Best regards, Alexander.
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 02:00:19PM +0200, Alexander S. Usov wrote:
Please open a bug for this.
Probably I could just add a followup to the one I have already opened (121913). At least now we know the solution ;)
Adding the solution is also great. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 14:18, houghi wrote:
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 02:00:19PM +0200, Alexander S. Usov wrote:
Please open a bug for this.
Probably I could just add a followup to the one I have already opened (121913). At least now we know the solution ;)
Adding the solution is also great.
Think I have done it. Or you mean it's difficult to understand what's written there? -- Best regards, Alexander.
Hi: I am the one who posted the other thread: THE HELL: mounted, almost mounted or UMOUNTED DVD !!!!, which talks about the same bug. El Miércoles, 12 de Octubre de 2005 14:00, Alexander S. Usov escribió:
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 11:47, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
Mathias Heier schrieb:
Am Mittwoch 12 Oktober 2005 10:55 schrieb Shriramana Sharma:
Wednesday 12 Oct 2005 13:49 samaye Mathias Heier alekhiit:
it seems that the package 'hal-0.5.4-6.i586.rpm' from SuSE is broken. It should contain the file 'hald-addon-usb-csr', but it doesn't. So get the source package from a SuSE-server and rebuild it (lots of devel-packages needed, not all of them are on DVD), and it will work. I ve've rebuild the package and now I have hald-addon-usb-csr installed in /usr/sbin/hald-addon-usb-csr, but the problem persist.
I've added "user" to the fstab for manually mounting the media for the moment.
How did you find this out and how come the package is working for some of us? I wiped my root partition from RC1 and installed GM.
Every action by hal crashed, for example lshal reported 'error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)' So I started 'hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes' on console and it said that the file 'hald-addon-usb-csr' was missing. 'rpm -ql' said that it is not in the package. So I built it new from the SRPM and it works.
Please open a bug for this.
Probably I could just add a followup to the one I have already opened (121913). At least now we know the solution ;)
-- Jorge Luis Arzola
Am Mittwoch 12 Oktober 2005 16:51 schrieb Jorge Luis Arzola:
Hi:
I am the one who posted the other thread: THE HELL: mounted, almost mounted or UMOUNTED DVD !!!!, which talks about the same bug.
I ve've rebuild the package and now I have hald-addon-usb-csr installed in /usr/sbin/hald-addon-usb-csr, but the problem persist.
I did not say that these 2 Bugs are the same, this was Shriramana Sharma. For *MY* problem discribed in *THIS THREAD* it works.
El Miércoles, 12 de Octubre de 2005 17:00, Mathias Heier escribió:
Am Mittwoch 12 Oktober 2005 16:51 schrieb Jorge Luis Arzola:
Hi:
I am the one who posted the other thread: THE HELL: mounted, almost mounted or UMOUNTED DVD !!!!, which talks about the same bug.
I ve've rebuild the package and now I have hald-addon-usb-csr installed in /usr/sbin/hald-addon-usb-csr, but the problem persist.
I did not say that these 2 Bugs are the same, this was Shriramana Sharma. For *MY* problem discribed in *THIS THREAD* it works. Yeah, but there is a big problem probably in hal itself that can not be solved with a simple rebuild of the the package. In my case, for example, usb devices have allways been automounted without problems in suse 10.0, but DVDs(strange, only DVDs, no problems with CDs) are inserted without been noticed in the drive.
jorge
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El Miércoles, 12 de Octubre de 2005 17:00, Mathias Heier escribió:
Am Mittwoch 12 Oktober 2005 16:51 schrieb Jorge Luis Arzola:
Hi:
I am the one who posted the other thread: THE HELL: mounted, almost mounted or UMOUNTED DVD !!!!, which talks about the same bug.
I ve've rebuild the package and now I have hald-addon-usb-csr installed in /usr/sbin/hald-addon-usb-csr, but the problem persist.
I did not say that these 2 Bugs are the same, this was Shriramana Sharma. For *MY* problem discribed in *THIS THREAD* it works. Yeah, but there is a big problem probably in hal itself that can not be solved with a simple rebuild of the the package. In my case, for example, usb devices have allways been automounted without problems in suse 10.0, but DVDs(strange, only DVDs, no problems with CDs) are inserted without been noticed in the drive.
Have you any USB connected ??, please try to disconnect all the USB device and then try again. -- Marcel Mourguiart
El Miércoles, 12 de Octubre de 2005 17:35, Marcel Mourguiart escribió:
2005/10/12, Jorge Luis Arzola
: El Miércoles, 12 de Octubre de 2005 17:00, Mathias Heier escribió:
Am Mittwoch 12 Oktober 2005 16:51 schrieb Jorge Luis Arzola:
Hi:
I am the one who posted the other thread: THE HELL: mounted, almost mounted or UMOUNTED DVD !!!!, which talks about the same bug.
I ve've rebuild the package and now I have hald-addon-usb-csr
installed
in /usr/sbin/hald-addon-usb-csr, but the problem persist.
I did not say that these 2 Bugs are the same, this was Shriramana
Sharma.
For *MY* problem discribed in *THIS THREAD* it works.
Yeah, but there is a big problem probably in hal itself that can not be solved with a simple rebuild of the the package. In my case, for example, usb devices have allways been automounted without problems in suse 10.0, but DVDs(strange, only DVDs, no problems with CDs) are inserted without been noticed in the drive.
Have you any USB connected ??, please try to disconnect all the USB device and then try again.
I did. No problems. jorge
-- Marcel Mourguiart
-- Jorge Luis Arzola
Wednesday 12 Oct 2005 20:30 samaye Mathias Heier alekhiit:
I did not say that these 2 Bugs are the same, this was Shriramana Sharma. For *MY* problem discribed in *THIS THREAD* it works.
Kindly say what is the difference between the two bugs. [This is crazy - I do not see any bug relating to mounting and yet I'm participating in this thread! :)]
Wednesday 12 Oct 2005 14:47 samaye Mathias Heier alekhiit:
How did you find this out and how come the package is working for some of us? I wiped my root partition from RC1 and installed GM.
Every action by hal crashed, for example lshal reported 'error:
But you didn't answer my second question - how come it is not giving an error for **me**? A thought: Are you using the 32-bit version or 64-bit version of 10.0 GM? I'm using the 32-bit version. Shriramana.
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 14:23, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
Wednesday 12 Oct 2005 14:47 samaye Mathias Heier alekhiit:
How did you find this out and how come the package is working for some of us? I wiped my root partition from RC1 and installed GM.
Every action by hal crashed, for example lshal reported 'error:
But you didn't answer my second question - how come it is not giving an error for **me**?
A thought: Are you using the 32-bit version or 64-bit version of 10.0 GM? I'm using the 32-bit version.
In mine case it fires only if I plug in wireless mouse. Or better to say a specific kind of mouse -- in mine case it's logitech wireless pilot. If I use a normal mouse instead, or a logitech v500 (also wireless) it works like a charm. -- Best regards, Alexander.
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 14:31, Alexander S. Usov wrote:
In mine case it fires only if I plug in wireless mouse. Or better to say a specific kind of mouse -- in mine case it's logitech wireless pilot. If I use a normal mouse instead, or a logitech v500 (also wireless) it works like a charm.
The problem is as wrote above this addon is only merged and called by HAL for wireless mouse to read battery state of the device (to workaround, see my other mail to remove the call from HAL without build a new package). If you have no wireless mouse, there is no problem. Cheers, Danny
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 21:44, Danny Kukawka wrote:
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 14:31, Alexander S. Usov wrote:
In mine case it fires only if I plug in wireless mouse. Or better to say a specific kind of mouse -- in mine case it's logitech wireless pilot. If I use a normal mouse instead, or a logitech v500 (also wireless) it works like a charm.
The problem is as wrote above this addon is only merged and called by HAL for wireless mouse to read battery state of the device (to workaround, see my other mail to remove the call from HAL without build a new package). If you have no wireless mouse, there is no problem.
I have noted it. My desktop is working like a charm. However the logitech v500 is also a wireless mouse, but a notebook model. And that one doesn't triggers this bug. -- Best regards, Alexander.
El Jueves, 13 de Octubre de 2005 00:24, Alexander S. Usov escribió:
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 21:44, Danny Kukawka wrote:
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 14:31, Alexander S. Usov wrote:
In mine case it fires only if I plug in wireless mouse. Or better to say a specific kind of mouse -- in mine case it's logitech wireless pilot. If I use a normal mouse instead, or a logitech v500 (also wireless) it works like a charm.
The problem is as wrote above this addon is only merged and called by HAL for wireless mouse to read battery state of the device (to workaround, see my other mail to remove the call from HAL without build a new package). If you have no wireless mouse, there is no problem.
I have noted it. My desktop is working like a charm. However the logitech v500 is also a wireless mouse, but a notebook model. And that one doesn't triggers this bug.
AND REMEBER THERE THE DVD AUTOMOUNTING PROBLEM, WHICH, FOR ME, IS RELATED TO HAL ALSO DANNY: PLEASE READ FROM THE BEGENING THE THREADS I TOLD YOU IN MY EMAIL. JORGE -- Jorge Luis Arzola
Am Mittwoch 12 Oktober 2005 14:23 schrieb Shriramana Sharma:
Wednesday 12 Oct 2005 14:47 samaye Mathias Heier alekhiit:
How did you find this out and how come the package is working for some of us? I wiped my root partition from RC1 and installed GM.
Every action by hal crashed, for example lshal reported 'error:
But you didn't answer my second question - how come it is not giving an error for **me**?
A thought: Are you using the 32-bit version or 64-bit version of 10.0 GM? I'm using the 32-bit version.
I'm using SUSE-10.0-EvalDVD-i386-GM.iso I don't know why you don't see the error. Maybe our problems are a litte different?
El Miércoles, 12 de Octubre de 2005 14:23, Shriramana Sharma escribió:
Wednesday 12 Oct 2005 14:47 samaye Mathias Heier alekhiit:
How did you find this out and how come the package is working for some of us? I wiped my root partition from RC1 and installed GM.
Every action by hal crashed, for example lshal reported 'error:
But you didn't answer my second question - how come it is not giving an error for **me**?
A thought: Are you using the 32-bit version or 64-bit version of 10.0 GM? I'm using the 32-bit version. 32-bit version here
jorge
Shriramana.
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On Wednesday 12 October 2005 10:19, Mathias Heier wrote:
it seems that the package 'hal-0.5.4-6.i586.rpm' from SuSE is broken. It should contain the file 'hald-addon-usb-csr', but it doesn't.
The fact is, the package is not brocken. It's not really a problem that the addon is not in the package (but good to know that, we add it for future packages). The problem is a bug in HAL. HAL should not seqfault if a addon is missing or if any other as callout defined command failed. We had same problem with callouts in the past and fixed this in HAL. Need to take a look at call of addons also. You can workaround this problem without to rebuild the package if you remove the following line (you should find the line two times in the file) from /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/10-wireless-mice.fdi : <append key="info.addons" type="strlist">hald-addon-usb-csr</append> Cheers, Danny
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 21:28, Danny Kukawka wrote:
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 10:19, Mathias Heier wrote:
it seems that the package 'hal-0.5.4-6.i586.rpm' from SuSE is broken. It should contain the file 'hald-addon-usb-csr', but it doesn't.
The fact is, the package is not brocken. It's not really a problem that the addon is not in the package (but good to know that, we add it for future packages). The problem is a bug in HAL.
HAL should not seqfault if a addon is missing or if any other as callout defined command failed. We had same problem with callouts in the past and fixed this in HAL. Need to take a look at call of addons also.
You can workaround this problem without to rebuild the package if you remove the following line (you should find the line two times in the file) from /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/10-wireless-mice.fdi :
<append key="info.addons" type="strlist">hald-addon-usb-csr</append>
In general I prefer to reinstall package than to edit rpm-controlled files. -- Best regards, Alexander.
On Thursday 13 October 2005 00:25, Alexander S. Usov wrote:
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 21:28, Danny Kukawka wrote:
You can workaround this problem without to rebuild the package if you remove the following line (you should find the line two times in the file) from /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/10-wireless-mice.fdi :
<append key="info.addons" type="strlist">hald-addon-usb-csr</append>
In general I prefer to reinstall package than to edit rpm-controlled files.
This was only a workaround. I try to get the missing file in the upcoming HAL YOU update. Cheers, Danny
On Thursday 13 October 2005 00:25, Alexander S. Usov wrote:
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 21:28, Danny Kukawka wrote:
You can workaround this problem without to rebuild the package if you remove the following line (you should find the line two times in the file) from /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/10-wireless-mice.fdi :
<append key="info.addons" type="strlist">hald-addon-usb-csr</append>
In general I prefer to reinstall package than to edit rpm-controlled files.
This was only a workaround. I try to get the missing file in the upcoming HAL YOU update. again, Danny please read the related threads from the begining. Some hal
El Jueves, 13 de Octubre de 2005 00:28, Danny Kukawka escribió: problems are explained very well there...And there are several users with the same issue: DVDs not been outomounted properly. jorge
Cheers,
Danny
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On Thursday 13 October 2005 00:53, Jorge Luis Arzola wrote:
again, Danny please read the related threads from the begining. Some hal problems are explained very well there...And there are several users with the same issue: DVDs not been outomounted properly.
I readed the thread, but in this thread everyone speak about this bug and not about the oncrete problem with mount if hal is correct running without crash. If someone has a problem if hal is running, please read first [1] and provide more information about the scenario and this: - output of lshal - hald-subfs-mount related debug messages in /var/log/messages But the best is: file a bug in Novell Bugzilla. Cheers, Danny [1] http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Oct/1191.html
On Thursday 13 October 2005 00:53, Jorge Luis Arzola wrote:
again, Danny please read the related threads from the begining. Some hal problems are explained very well there...And there are several users with the same issue: DVDs not been outomounted properly.
I readed the thread, but in this thread everyone speak about this bug and not about the oncrete problem with mount if hal is correct running without crash. No, I am sorry you haven't read the threads(or the messages) I tell you: everything is explained there with lots of details. Specially read this thread(which is not a long one, It began yesterday, I
El Jueves, 13 de Octubre de 2005 01:42, Danny Kukawka escribió: think): THE HELL: mounted, almost mounted or UMOUNTED DVD !!!! and read specially my posts. you will find very concrete info about the problems: what and how they happend, etc. And, also, you will find that there other users reporting the same. Sorry I do not give more details here because everything is explianed in the thread itself.
If someone has a problem if hal is running, please read first [1] and provide more information about the scenario and this:
- output of lshal - hald-subfs-mount related debug messages in /var/log/messages
But the best is: file a bug in Novell Bugzilla.
could anyone do it please? I am to lazy for that, sorry best regards jorge
Cheers,
Danny
[1] http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Oct/1191.html
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Alexander S. Usov
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Danny Kukawka
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houghi
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Jorge Luis Arzola
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Marcel Mourguiart
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Mathias Heier
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Shriramana Sharma