Hi, On Tuesday 07 February 2006 17:27, Kevanf1 wrote:

On 07/02/06, Hans du Plooy wrote:

...

Just a quick question - the SUSE 10.0 package I got was quite a bit thinner as previous ones, and had no printed manuals. Is this the new way they're doing it everywhere, or just a local packaging? I'm thinking of just ordering 10.1 from overseas, if I can get the package with printed manuals.

Sadly (my personal view and not held by some others) this is the way Novell intend to deliver SuSE from now on. Again, personal opinion, but I think it is a backward step.

All 10.0 boxes that I have ssen came with a printed manual. True: the box is smaller than it used to be and it has only one instead of two printed manuals (the other one is available as PDF and HTML). Also true: the box is considerably cheaper than it used to be. If Hans had no manual in his box then I wonder if that was an original version ... Hans: where did you buy it and how much did it cost? Greetings from Stuhr hartmut

Am Dienstag, 7. Februar 2006 18:44 schrieb Hans du Plooy:

On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 17:44 +0100, Hartmut Meyer wrote:

...

All 10.0 boxes that I have ssen came with a printed manual.

Ooh, my blunder! There is a book inside, called the "start up" manual or something like that. But that's really no use to me. The Administrator manual that I got with 9.0 is the one I still use every now and then, even on later versions and on SLES (whatever happened to that beautiful packaging that SLES8 came in?). That's the one I'm referring to. An HTML/pdf manual helps, but just doesn't cut it on long plane trips and when you want to do some reading but don't want to stare into the screen....

Thanks Hans

Doesn't help when you want to read the admin in the bath or on the toilet either :-( I still keep my old Admin guides, 9.3 being the latest version. I still remember the PDP and VAX, you got a bundle of reel-to-reel tapes and 5 pulped major desiduous forests in the packaging :-P Dave

On 2/7/06 1:56 PM, "David Wright" wrote:

Doesn't help when you want to read the admin in the bath or on the toilet either :-(

Laptop (or so I hear) ;-D -- Thanks, George You do not merely want to be considered just the best of the best. You want to be considered the only ones who do what you do. Jerry Garcia

On 2/8/06 5:21 PM, "Carlos E. R." wrote:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1

The Tuesday 2006-02-07 at 18:59 -0500, suse_gasjr4wd@mac.com wrote:

...

...

Doesn't help when you want to read the admin in the bath or on the toilet either :-(

Laptop

They can get wet.

Wet? How in the... - Never mind. I don't want to know. ;)

...

(or so I hear) ;-D

Try go take one to bed: the fan clogs. Worse, Murphy could be watching and it catches fire :-P

I've had my clamshell ibook under stuff...for days. Then again I don't think it has a fan. I don't remember seeing one when I had it open. But yea, that fire part would suck... definitely bugger up your day. -- Thanks, George "The only secure Microsoft software is what's still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..." (Forno)

torsdag 09 februari 2006 03:30 skrev Carlos E. R.:

The Wednesday 2006-02-08 at 19:55 -0500, suse_gasjr4wd@ wrote:

...

...

...

...

Doesn't help when you want to read the admin in the bath or on the toilet either :-(

Laptop

They can get wet.

Wet? How in the... - Never mind. I don't want to know. ;)

Have you never tried to read a book while taking a hot bath? ;-)

it's worse when you shower.

-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

On 07/02/06, Hartmut Meyer wrote:

Hi,

On Tuesday 07 February 2006 17:27, Kevanf1 wrote:

...

On 07/02/06, Hans du Plooy wrote:

...

...

Just a quick question - the SUSE 10.0 package I got was quite a bit thinner as previous ones, and had no printed manuals. Is this the new way they're doing it everywhere, or just a local packaging? I'm thinking of just ordering 10.1 from overseas, if I can get the package with printed manuals.

Sadly (my personal view and not held by some others) this is the way Novell intend to deliver SuSE from now on. Again, personal opinion, but I think it is a backward step.

All 10.0 boxes that I have ssen came with a printed manual.

True: the box is smaller than it used to be and it has only one instead of two printed manuals (the other one is available as PDF and HTML). Also true: the box is considerably cheaper than it used to be.

If Hans had no manual in his box then I wonder if that was an original version ...

Hans: where did you buy it and how much did it cost?

Ah, sorry , I was not counting the start up guide. I'm assuming Hans meant the 'proper' set of manuals that we used to get. Everyone I know who has purchased the boxed set of SuSE 10 has chucked the 'start up' pamphlet in the bin. I personally got a copy off Linux-Magazine this time round. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

Humm, I purchased mine!

Bang goes another rain forest! ;-) Cheers, Colin

Novell SUSE has several official SUSE guides and courses for sale. Most are quite expensive, especially those with included virtual machines on DVD. If you want the whole set, count on something like a couple of thousand of US$. 2006/2/8, Colin Fraser :

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

...

Humm, I purchased mine!

Bang goes another rain forest! ;-)

Cheers,

Colin

-- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com