[opensuse] Upgrade from 10.0 to 11.0 In Place
Can I upgrade a 10.0 to 11.0 by choosing the Installation ==> Upgrade option from the DVD? (I tried this by installing 10.0 under VMware but when booting from the DVD and attemting the install, it cannot see the virtual hard drive. I am running an older version 1.0.3 of VMware Server.) Thank you, Lucky Leavell -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Lucky Leavell wrote:
Can I upgrade a 10.0 to 11.0 by choosing the Installation ==> Upgrade option from the DVD? (I tried this by installing 10.0 under VMware but when booting from the DVD and attemting the install, it cannot see the virtual hard drive. I am running an older version 1.0.3 of VMware Server.)
Thank you, Lucky Leavell
Lucky, ...you would have to be to pull that off. I wouldn't. It is possible, but not probable if you want to make sure nothing will bite you later. The jump from 10.0 to 11.0 is huge in a lot of core package areas. Just do it the right way and do a clean install. Backup all data (usually /home) Backup needed configs, "if any" (usually /etc/...., sometimes /var/lib) Backup mail (/var/spool/mail) Backup web (/srv/www/htdocs, and anything else you have squirreled away) Backup smb shares (if outside of /home/samba) Pop the 11.0 dvd and reboot for a clean install substitute "Restore" for "Backup" above and finish -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 David C. Rankin wrote:
Lucky Leavell wrote:
Can I upgrade a 10.0 to 11.0 by choosing the Installation ==> Upgrade option from the DVD? (I tried this by installing 10.0 under VMware but when booting from the DVD and attemting the install, it cannot see the virtual hard drive. I am running an older version 1.0.3 of VMware Server.)
Thank you, Lucky Leavell
Lucky,
...you would have to be to pull that off. I wouldn't. It is possible, but not probable if you want to make sure nothing will bite you later.
Depends a bit on how "standard" and complex your setup is. If your setup includes material that is non-SuSE you could be bitten by something in the non-SuSE areas you were not aware off. I would always try to upgrade first and if things become toast then do a clean install, the things which may bite later are usually things that are rarely used and should rarely be critical if you properly check things out after you upgraded. I utilise a fair bit of stuff which comes from non-SuSE resources and this route usually saves me more time than I would loose by rebuilding everything from scratch. It is matter of judging how much effort you are prepared to give on rebuilding stuff that currently works. I did 9.3 to 10.2 by this route without too many problems. With 10.2 to 11.0 there were even some benefits in that some information (e.g. repositories) was retained in manner that I could use that information to quickly reconfigure appropriately.
The jump from 10.0 to 11.0 is huge in a lot of core package areas. Just do it the right way and do a clean install.
Backup all data (usually /home) Backup needed configs, "if any" (usually /etc/...., sometimes /var/lib) Backup mail (/var/spool/mail) Backup web (/srv/www/htdocs, and anything else you have squirreled away) Backup smb shares (if outside of /home/samba) Pop the 11.0 dvd and reboot for a clean install substitute "Restore" for "Backup" above and finish
Whatever rout to choose backup, then backup the backup, try and have at least two different routes back to your original working system. If one route fails you at least have a fall back option. It rarely a good idea to start something like this without a route back to your starting point so you can try again. - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAki5HQcACgkQasN0sSnLmgIVwACeKLdG2HxivJoC6tOFII38Vggb Bu4AnikGO1mzWxrUVsGY0cMd4KHMKbcd =94wK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I may try the UiP first because this is an interim solution until I can afford new hardware. Then I will install from scratch and restore /home, etc. plus all of the VM images. In fact, since VMware ESXi is now free, I may use it for the first layer and install SuSE and other guest OSes under that. (SuSE is my workhorse and is primarily a mail and file server (SSH and SMB) for a small home office). Thank you, Lucky Leavell -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Lucky Leavell wrote:-
Can I upgrade a 10.0 to 11.0 by choosing the Installation ==> Upgrade option from the DVD? (I tried this by installing 10.0 under VMware but when booting from the DVD and attemting the install, it cannot see the virtual hard drive. I am running an older version 1.0.3 of VMware Server.)
If you decide to do that rather than to perform a backup of configuration files and then do a fresh install, you might want to read these: URL:http://www.davjam.org/lifetype/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=16&blogId=1 URL:http://www.davjam.org/lifetype/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=20&blogId=1 While they aren't specifically 10.0 -> 11.0, you will see the same sort of issues I had to address with both my jumps from 10.0 to 10.3. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-P2 @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~15Mkeys SUSE 10.1 32 | | openSUSE 10.3 32b | openSUSE 11.0 32b | openSUSE 10.2 64b | openSUSE 10.3 64b | openSUSE 11.0 64b RISC OS 3.6 | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 10.3 PPC | RISC OS 3.11 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I tried to upgrade 10.1 to 10.2 or 10.3 once. I had packages from
Packman installed and that chocked the installer into dependancy hell
during the install and the system never booted again (untill a fresh
reinstall)
If your home isn't on a separate partition I wouldn't even think of it,
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Lucky Leavell
Can I upgrade a 10.0 to 11.0 by choosing the Installation ==> Upgrade option from the DVD? (I tried this by installing 10.0 under VMware but when booting from the DVD and attemting the install, it cannot see the virtual hard drive. I am running an older version 1.0.3 of VMware Server.)
Thank you, Lucky Leavell -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Well, I finally took the plunge yesterday and, while it is not without its warts, 11.0 IS up and running! It is still doing its initial update (my internet connection is spotty and I had to retry several times due to timeouts.) The biggest problem I encountered was some old virtual mailbox experimental stuff in /etc/postfix/main.cf used mysql (which is not working yet) which caused trivial-rewrite to die, preventing any mail delivery in or outbound. Commenting the virtual mailbox stuff out and restarting postfix worked. The other issue (so far) is the GUI does not come up on reboot. (I am in runlevel 5.) It works fine to login to a character screen and invoke it with "startx" which is what we do on all our servers at work, i.e., come up in runlevel 3 by default. Now if I can just figure out how to toggle back and forth between zoom and full views in alpine ... (I mark many messages using differing criteria but now it insists on invoking the zoom view after each select and the only way I have been able to get out is handle (save, delete, etc.) that set. Tedious! Thank you, Lucky Leavell -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-09-07 at 08:15 -0400, Lucky Leavell wrote:
Now if I can just figure out how to toggle back and forth between zoom and full views in alpine ... (I mark many messages using differing criteria but now it insists on invoking the zoom view after each select and the only way I have been able to get out is handle (save, delete, etc.) that set. Tedious!
Type 'z', works here (version 1.00). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIw9QktTMYHG2NR9URAq7HAJ9fGl9oMf8dujOkBgq52FdvFYKJwwCggiTa wPmIbreCRYgihmW6WpKN9ok= =KaNr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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