[opensuse] Hostname ?? NOT!
When I installed 13.1 on this machine I set the hostname. When I run 'hostname' or 'hostname -fqdn' I see what I expect, what I set it to. When I am at the console prompt (tty,2,3,4,5,6) I see that hostname at part of the login prompt. When I've logged in the spell prompt includes that hostname, This is all as I expect and as it should be. But with the graphical prompt I see another name 'Linux-85q8' or something like that, rather than the hostname I've set it to. WTF? Oh, right, this must be defined in the login screen definition... But where and why? Why doesn't it use the proper hostname and where does this come from? -- IOException: Jovian moons misaligned. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 23/05/14 23:48, Anton Aylward escribió:
When I installed 13.1 on this machine I set the hostname. When I run 'hostname' or 'hostname -fqdn' I see what I expect, what I set it to.
When I am at the console prompt (tty,2,3,4,5,6) I see that hostname at part of the login prompt. When I've logged in the spell prompt includes that hostname,
This is all as I expect and as it should be.
But with the graphical prompt I see another name 'Linux-85q8' or something like that, rather than the hostname I've set it to.
WTF?
Oh, right, this must be defined in the login screen definition... But where and why? Why doesn't it use the proper hostname and where does this come from?
what does hostnamectl says ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/24/2014 12:12 AM, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 23/05/14 23:48, Anton Aylward escribió:
When I installed 13.1 on this machine I set the hostname. When I run 'hostname' or 'hostname -fqdn' I see what I expect, what I set it to.
When I am at the console prompt (tty,2,3,4,5,6) I see that hostname at part of the login prompt. When I've logged in the spell prompt includes that hostname,
This is all as I expect and as it should be.
But with the graphical prompt I see another name 'Linux-85q8' or something like that, rather than the hostname I've set it to.
WTF?
Oh, right, this must be defined in the login screen definition... But where and why? Why doesn't it use the proper hostname and where does this come from?
what does hostnamectl says ?
hostnamectl Static hostname: linux-85q8.site Transient hostname: MainBox Icon name: computer-desktop Chassis: desktop Machine ID: 61035b9c40c24e91a8e5231547864574 Boot ID: 4114ff3bc6f348a3ace3cf2d63789d5c Operating System: openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (x86_64) CPE OS Name: cpe:/o:opensuse:opensuse:13.1 Kernel: Linux 3.11.10-11-desktop Architecture: x86_64
Yes, but where does that 'Static hostname' come from? And why is the greeter using it? -- I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it. --Voltaire -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-05-24 06:20, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 05/24/2014 12:12 AM, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
what does hostnamectl says ?
hostnamectl Static hostname: linux-85q8.site Transient hostname: MainBox Icon name: computer-desktop Chassis: desktop Machine ID: 61035b9c40c24e91a8e5231547864574 Boot ID: 4114ff3bc6f348a3ace3cf2d63789d5c Operating System: openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (x86_64) CPE OS Name: cpe:/o:opensuse:opensuse:13.1 Kernel: Linux 3.11.10-11-desktop Architecture: x86_64
Yes, but where does that 'Static hostname' come from? And why is the greeter using it?
The command is new to me, but I tried it in my computer, and I don't have a "transient" hostname. My guess is that the transient name is set by dhcp or a similar thing, perhaps in network manager, while the static hostname was set in YaST. The idea is that as you go from network to network, or from day to day, you get a name assigned by the dhcp server, and the name can change each time. It is, thus, transient. So... Go to yast, network module, and change the name there. If it says that it can not be, because it is controlled by network manager, change then to ifup method, temporarily, change the machine name in there, in the dhcp place disable set name dynamically or words to that effect, exit and save, and then, if you want network manager, get back in and reactivate NM. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlOAiyMACgkQja8UbcUWM1zIwgD/bVO5Ez+KkD/+ccyM/Et9vRpy od7wZWaWzfLT9Ge4HOIA/1hDBS3msKruJ/KkTjBQHVuyWObN3G126DQou2udX69c =uJ5u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/24/2014 12:12 AM, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 23/05/14 23:48, Anton Aylward escribió:
When I installed 13.1 on this machine I set the hostname. When I run 'hostname' or 'hostname -fqdn' I see what I expect, what I set it to.
When I am at the console prompt (tty,2,3,4,5,6) I see that hostname at part of the login prompt. When I've logged in the spell prompt includes that hostname,
This is all as I expect and as it should be.
But with the graphical prompt I see another name 'Linux-85q8' or something like that, rather than the hostname I've set it to.
WTF?
Oh, right, this must be defined in the login screen definition... But where and why? Why doesn't it use the proper hostname and where does this come from?
what does hostnamectl says ?
MAN 5 hostmane talks of the file /etc/hostname which it claims is set at boot time. Id doens't say if this is set by the command line or by something in the systemd boot sequence. Perhaps a 'systemd-hostnamed.service'? Either way, I don't have this file, so where does that 'linux-85q8' come from? The kernel? So how did it get there if not on the command line? Mkinitrd? Well that's unhelpful. -- Light a fire for an idiot and he'll be warm for a night. Set an idiot on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-05-24 00:29 (GMT-0400) Anton Aylward composed:
MAN 5 hostmane talks of the file /etc/hostname which it claims is set at boot time.
This is hardly the only case of an openSUSE man page referring to something that in openSUSE does not exist due to some filename difference from upstream. cf. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858448
Id doens't say if this is set by the command line or by something in the systemd boot sequence. Perhaps a 'systemd-hostnamed.service'?
Either way, I don't have this file, so where does that 'linux-85q8' come from? The kernel? So how did it get there if not on the command line?
You don't use mc much, do you? Same for distros other than openSUSE? Just for kicks, open mc, find /etc/zypp/ in it, then scan down a couple of lines or three. AFAICR, no other distro than openSUSE that I've ever used omits /etc/hostname. openSUSE's parent had a predilection for capitals and mixed case, a case-sensitive filesystem nuisance inherited by openSUSE for things like YaST2, SuSEfirewall2, and among others, /etc/HOSTNAME. Take a look around line 466 in /usr/share/YaST2/clients/save_network.rb for where the host of your linux-85q8 likely got created. cf. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858908 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/24/2014 04:04 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
Either way, I don't have this file, so where does that 'linux-85q8' come from? The kernel? So how did it get there if not on the command line?
You don't use mc much, do you? Same for distros other than openSUSE? Just for kicks, open mc, find /etc/zypp/ in it, then scan down a couple of lines or three.
Why do I need 'mc'? Why can't I just use the command line? Run 'ls', read files with 'more'? What point are you trying to make in showing me what files exist in that directory? -- "To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge." -- Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-05-24 07:42 (GMT-0400) Anton Aylward composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
...where does that 'linux-85q8' come from?...
You don't use mc much, do you? Same for distros other than openSUSE? Just for kicks, open mc, find /etc/zypp/ in it, then scan down a couple of lines or three.
Why do I need 'mc'?
You're not familiar with the term "just for kicks" either? It means just do it, without asking why; it may not be the only way to achieve the desired result.
Why can't I just use the command line?
I didn't say you couldn't.
Run 'ls', read files with 'more'?
An OFM puts it all in your face much like a GUI file manager, so you don't need to type any commands to see what lives in ., yet allows to type all you please as if it wasn't running there. Do all the extra typing you want, but you may not get the result that automatically lights the light bulb that way, rather the same view as using a GUI file manager might present if it sorted directory content the way mc does by default, DIRS first, then caps, then lowers.
What point are you trying to make in showing me what files exist in that directory?
You wrote that /etc/hostname does not exist. The question why that might be was implied by your previous post's question first quoted here above. Had you searched the content of files in /etc/ I expect you would have found the answer already. Had you been using mc, your search might possibly have been limited to a single file. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2014-05-24 00:29 (GMT-0400) Anton Aylward composed:
MAN 5 hostmane talks of the file /etc/hostname which it claims is set at boot time.
This is hardly the only case of an openSUSE man page referring to something that in openSUSE does not exist due to some filename difference from upstream.
cf. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858448
Id doens't say if this is set by the command line or by something in the systemd boot sequence. Perhaps a 'systemd-hostnamed.service'?
Either way, I don't have this file, so where does that 'linux-85q8' come from? The kernel? So how did it get there if not on the command line?
You don't use mc much, do you? Same for distros other than openSUSE? Just for kicks, open mc, find /etc/zypp/ in it, then scan down a couple of lines or three.
AFAICR, no other distro than openSUSE that I've ever used omits /etc/hostname. openSUSE's parent had a predilection for capitals and mixed case, a case-sensitive filesystem nuisance inherited by openSUSE for things like YaST2, SuSEfirewall2, and among others, /etc/HOSTNAME. Take a look around line 466 in /usr/share/YaST2/clients/save_network.rb for where the host of your linux-85q8 likely got created.
Renaming /etc/hostname as /etc/HOSTNAME is 100% unacceptable. What, is SuSE now overrun with MS-DOS retards?
Summary: /etc/hostname vs. /etc/HOSTNAME confusion Collapse All Comments - Expand All Comments [reply] [-] Description Christian Boltz 2014-01-15 20:18:58 UTC Bug 803653 was about /etc/hostname vs. /etc/HOSTNAME on 12.3, and especially about hostnamectl's behaviour. This bugreport is a follow-up. The behaviour on 13.1 is interesting[tm]: After a fresh install, there's only /etc/HOSTNAME (owned by netcfg package), but no /etc/hostname: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13 21 nov 16:05 /etc/HOSTNAME When calling "hostnamectl set-hostname ein.host.name", the result is -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14 14. Jan 20:49 /etc/hostname lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 14. Jan 20:49 /etc/HOSTNAME -> /etc/hostname This doesn't break anything, but is at least confusing. Can you please sort out what the correct filename is? ;-) Frederic, I'm assigning this to you (like the old bug) because the primary issue is in hostnamectl. If you think other parts (installation?) need to be changed, please reassign as needed. [reply] [-] Comment 1 Frederic Crozat 2014-01-16 09:25:13 UTC /etc/HOSTNAME is created by YaST and /etc/hostname is created by systemd-hostnamed (which takes care of the migration). So, YaST should be fixed to create /etc/hostname and setup the symlink, to be compatible with the new cross-distribution way. [reply] [-] Comment 2 Arvin Schnell 2014-01-16 10:39:35 UTC Reassigned to bugowner of yast2-network. All that occurred within 24 hours of the bug submission And since then, yst2-network guy hasn't done a DAMNED FUCKING THING, or even acknowledged that the bug is his. WTF? OVER. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 27/05/2014 04:22, Dirk Gently a écrit :
The behaviour on 13.1 is interesting[tm]: After a fresh install, there's only /etc/HOSTNAME (owned by netcfg package), but no /etc/hostname:
what is curious is that I *always* had hostname (lowercase) in my 13.1 installs. Mays be some usual (for me) configurations spte triggered this. I just dicover there was also a HOSTANE!! jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
Le 27/05/2014 04:22, Dirk Gently a écrit :
The behaviour on 13.1 is interesting[tm]: After a fresh install, there's only /etc/HOSTNAME (owned by netcfg package), but no /etc/hostname:
what is curious is that I *always* had hostname (lowercase) in my 13.1 installs.
That is most intersting - my 13.1 installations (desktops) don't have an /etc/hostname, only /etc/HOSTNAME. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (13.6°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 27/05/2014 08:21, Per Jessen a écrit :
jdd wrote:
Le 27/05/2014 04:22, Dirk Gently a écrit :
The behaviour on 13.1 is interesting[tm]: After a fresh install, there's only /etc/HOSTNAME (owned by netcfg package), but no /etc/hostname:
what is curious is that I *always* had hostname (lowercase) in my 13.1 installs.
That is most intersting - my 13.1 installations (desktops) don't have an /etc/hostname, only /etc/HOSTNAME.
I have to apologies. I don't know why, may be I had opened a terminal in a non 13.1 install at the time à tested this :-( - I did just before writing! but you are right, I have no hostname (lowcase) in my 13.1 install :-( sorry and thanks making me notice this jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/27/2014 02:21 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
jdd wrote:
Le 27/05/2014 04:22, Dirk Gently a écrit :
The behaviour on 13.1 is interesting[tm]: After a fresh install, there's only /etc/HOSTNAME (owned by netcfg package), but no /etc/hostname:
what is curious is that I *always* had hostname (lowercase) in my 13.1 installs.
That is most intersting - my 13.1 installations (desktops) don't have an /etc/hostname, only /etc/HOSTNAME.
Indeed, "me too", and that despite the documentation. -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-05-27 07:52 (GMT+0200) jdd composed:
what is curious is that I *always* had hostname (lowercase) in my 13.1 installs. Mays be some usual (for me) configurations spte triggered this.
What type of network configurations do you have? None of my 13.1s use NetworkManager or wireless or DHCP or have more than one NIC, and none have /etc/hostname. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2014-05-27 07:52 (GMT+0200) jdd composed:
what is curious is that I *always* had hostname (lowercase) in my 13.1 installs. Mays be some usual (for me) configurations spte triggered this.
What type of network configurations do you have? None of my 13.1s use NetworkManager or wireless or DHCP or have more than one NIC, and none have /etc/hostname.
That could be the difference, I don't use the NetworkManager either, but everyone of our systems have DHCP or wireless or more than one NIC. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (13.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 03:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2014-05-27 07:52 (GMT+0200) jdd composed:
what is curious is that I *always* had hostname (lowercase) in my 13.1 installs. Mays be some usual (for me) configurations spte triggered this.
What type of network configurations do you have? None of my 13.1s use NetworkManager or wireless or DHCP or have more than one NIC, and none have /etc/hostname.
Hi Just tried without /etc/HOSTNAME. It works fine. We authenticate via AD which is super critical with DNS: /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 hostname.domain.name hostname localhost is all that is needed to register correctly in DNS via nsupdate to the DC when dhcp changes its IP. Anything that gives: hostname -f hostname -s and hostname -d is fine. I don't think yast does that. It's best to do DNS by hand. HTH L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dirk Gently wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2014-05-24 00:29 (GMT-0400) Anton Aylward composed:
MAN 5 hostmane talks of the file /etc/hostname which it claims is set at boot time.
This is hardly the only case of an openSUSE man page referring to something that in openSUSE does not exist due to some filename difference from upstream.
cf. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858448
Id doens't say if this is set by the command line or by something in the systemd boot sequence. Perhaps a 'systemd-hostnamed.service'?
Either way, I don't have this file, so where does that 'linux-85q8' come from? The kernel? So how did it get there if not on the command line?
You don't use mc much, do you? Same for distros other than openSUSE? Just for kicks, open mc, find /etc/zypp/ in it, then scan down a couple of lines or three.
AFAICR, no other distro than openSUSE that I've ever used omits /etc/hostname. openSUSE's parent had a predilection for capitals and mixed case, a case-sensitive filesystem nuisance inherited by openSUSE for things like YaST2, SuSEfirewall2, and among others, /etc/HOSTNAME. Take a look around line 466 in /usr/share/YaST2/clients/save_network.rb for where the host of your linux-85q8 likely got created.
Renaming /etc/hostname as /etc/HOSTNAME is 100% unacceptable.
It has been like that since SuSE 8.2 at least. Seems it was quite acceptable. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (13.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-05-27 08:19, Per Jessen wrote:
It has been like that since SuSE 8.2 at least. Seems it was quite acceptable.
Way further back, to Sep 1998. I just reinstalled 5.3 to check: it uses the upper case version. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 2014-05-26 22:22 (GMT-0400) Dirk Gently composed:
Renaming /etc/hostname as /etc/HOSTNAME is 100% unacceptable.
You should take a look at bug 858908's latest comment. There has been *no* "rename".
What, is SuSE now overrun with MS-DOS retards?
You should reread the post you replied to find a more probable explanation.
cf. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858908 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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On 2014-05-26 22:22 (GMT-0400) Dirk Gently composed:
cf. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858448 ... All that occurred within 24 hours of the bug submission
And more than a month after 13.1 was released...
And since then, yst2-network guy hasn't done a DAMNED FUCKING THING, or even acknowledged that the bug is his. WTF? OVER.
...while the bug is about system architecture, which means it almost certainly needs to get moved from 13.1 to Factory to be fixable. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 24/05/14 00:29, Anton Aylward escribió:
On 05/24/2014 12:12 AM, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 23/05/14 23:48, Anton Aylward escribió:
When I installed 13.1 on this machine I set the hostname. When I run 'hostname' or 'hostname -fqdn' I see what I expect, what I set it to.
When I am at the console prompt (tty,2,3,4,5,6) I see that hostname at part of the login prompt. When I've logged in the spell prompt includes that hostname,
This is all as I expect and as it should be.
But with the graphical prompt I see another name 'Linux-85q8' or something like that, rather than the hostname I've set it to.
WTF?
Oh, right, this must be defined in the login screen definition... But where and why? Why doesn't it use the proper hostname and where does this come from?
what does hostnamectl says ?
MAN 5 hostmane talks of the file /etc/hostname which it claims is set at boot time.
/etc/hostname is supported.
Id doens't say if this is set by the command line or by something in the systemd boot sequence. Perhaps a 'systemd-hostnamed.service'?
systemd-hostnamed does nothing to the system hostname and "goes away" after a certain period of inactivity less: a) You command it to do something using hostnamectl b) Some other application talks to it via DBUS.
Either way, I don't have this file,
It has not been created yet.. so where does that 'linux-85q8' come
from?
from /etc/HOSTNAME. -- Cristian "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
When I installed 13.1 on this machine I set the hostname. When I run 'hostname' or 'hostname -fqdn' I see what I expect, what I set it to.
When I am at the console prompt (tty,2,3,4,5,6) I see that hostname at part of the login prompt. When I've logged in the spell prompt includes that hostname,
This is all as I expect and as it should be.
But with the graphical prompt I see another name 'Linux-85q8' or something like that, rather than the hostname I've set it to.
have you tried (as root) echo 'myhost' >/proc/sys/kernel/hostname ? domainname is there too. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/25/2014 10:02 PM, Linda Walsh wrote:
Anton Aylward wrote:
When I installed 13.1 on this machine I set the hostname. When I run 'hostname' or 'hostname -fqdn' I see what I expect, what I set it to.
When I am at the console prompt (tty,2,3,4,5,6) I see that hostname at part of the login prompt. When I've logged in the spell prompt includes that hostname,
This is all as I expect and as it should be.
But with the graphical prompt I see another name 'Linux-85q8' or something like that, rather than the hostname I've set it to.
have you tried (as root) echo 'myhost' >/proc/sys/kernel/hostname ?
domainname is there too.
Indeed, but as that isn't static and is recreated on every boot, where does the content originally come from? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-05-25 22:31 (GMT-0400) Anton Aylward composed:
where does the content originally come from?
Your linux-85q8 got created at installation time by the process of installing. Where it found the home from which it continues to spring on each boot has been provided you in this thread at least twice, including Cristian Rodríguez's http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2014-05/msg00799.html and my http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2014-05/msg00786.html, the latter of which provided the name of the YaST module that appears to be responsible, posits a reason why this is different in openSUSE than in other distros, and isn't in the man page you visited. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/25/2014 11:39 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
Your linux-85q8 got created at installation time by the process of installing.
That is what I meant by ORIGINALLY. Yes I'm aware of where its stored and can overwrite that. I know how to 'fix' it and I see how the man pages are incorrect. I was, if you go back to my original question, why 'hostname' gave the name I had set up but, as it emerged, the name given by 'hostnamectl' use used by KDM. Or to put it another way: At a tty login prompt I get one hostname and a gui login prompt I get a different hostname.[1] What makes KDM different/anomalous? Yes I see in the XML "%h" for hostname, but why does it take the 'hostnamectl' hostname rather than the `hostname' hostname? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the 'hostnamectl' something that came in with systemd? Why do we have to so similar things that give different results? Am I to take it that - *shock *horror* - Yast has been updated to play well with systemd? All that, on top of the already mentioned SUSE twisteroos on documentation doesn’t quite make it a bug... Unless you consider documentation important, which doesn't seem to be the case here ... But back to 'originally'. At installation I got asked and gave a hostname/fqdn, the one used when the install completed at the tty prompt. Who/what dreamt up this other name, the one given by hui login prompt? How come the one I was asked to wasn't used in "both" cases? Or am I just heading down an avenue that ends up in a bug report that is so vague, complaining about inconsistencies between things maintained by different groups, that it will be ignored or be a WONTFIX? [1] Look at it this way: If I hot keyed between tt1,2,3,4,5,6 and at each got a different prompt without having specifically configured that (can you do that with systemd?) would this anomaly be considered a bug? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Anton Aylward
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Carlos E. R.
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Cristian Rodríguez
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Dirk Gently
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Felix Miata
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jdd
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Linda Walsh
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lynn
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Per Jessen