Ti Kan wrote:

James Knott writes:

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Why all the excitement about gmail? What's it got that other e-mail accounts don't?

1GB of free storage.

I've already got 2 GB per ID ( up to 7 IDs )with my current ISP.

Ben Rosenberg wrote:

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:31:48 -0400, James Knott wrote:

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Ti Kan wrote:

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James Knott writes:

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Why all the excitement about gmail? What's it got that other e-mail accounts don't?

1GB of free storage.

I've already got 2 GB per ID ( up to 7 IDs )with my current ISP.

I don't think this was the point of the gentleman's offer. He was just being nice and offering invites to a service that he thought people might like to play with. I've never seen such argumentative responses to some making a free offer of something that is useful.

I don't have a problem with him offering it. I just don't see what all the excitement is about.

John Andersen writes:

I've already got 110 Gig - I run Linux. I thought thats what this list is about!!??

Yes, of course. Same here too. But it is always good to have a secondary email account that doesn't live on your own machine, where you don't care if it gets spammed. In the occasions where you have to give my email address to a business while signing up for a service, or somesuch, you can use the secondary email address. Gmail just happens to be quite good because it offers such a large amount of free storage space. Anyway, this is OT and I won't add any more to this thread. -Ti

On Saturday 04 Sep 2004 22:26, James Knott wrote:

John Andersen wrote:

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I've already got 110 Gig - I run Linux. I thought thats what this list is about!!??

Well, I've got 120, so there!!! ;-)

Incidentally, it wasn't all that long ago, that a friend was bragging he had 1 GB in his computer. As I recall, it took him 4 drives to do it. My first hard drive was all of 30 MB, and I used to back it up to floppies!. I didn't run Linux on that computer though. ;-)

Hummmmm i see you started with one of the BIG drives at 30Mb My first Hdd was a huge great 10Mb 5.25" full height thing that needed an connection onto the National Grid to power it never ran out of space thou Pete. -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN

On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 22:48:33 +0100 peter Nikolic wrote:

Hummmmm i see you started with one of the BIG drives at 30Mb My first Hdd was a huge great 10Mb 5.25" full height thing that needed an connection onto the National Grid to power it never ran out of space thou

This brought back memories- my first HD was a WD "Hard Card" which slotted into my 8086 Ferranti PC. As it was 20Mb though I had to dual partition it as MS-DOS couldn't deal with more than, IIRC, 10Mb. I never had a problem with it though, unlike much later WD drive.... Terence

On Saturday 04 Sep 2004 23:12, Allen wrote:

I wonder. How many hip replacements have you had?

On Saturday 04 September 2004 17:48, peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Saturday 04 Sep 2004 22:26, James Knott wrote:

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John Andersen wrote:

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I've already got 110 Gig - I run Linux. I thought thats what this list is about!!??

Well, I've got 120, so there!!! ;-)

Incidentally, it wasn't all that long ago, that a friend was bragging he had 1 GB in his computer. As I recall, it took him 4 drives to do it. My first hard drive was all of 30 MB, and I used to back it up to floppies!. I didn't run Linux on that computer though. ;-)

Hummmmm i see you started with one of the BIG drives at 30Mb My first Hdd was a huge great 10Mb 5.25" full height thing that needed an connection onto the National Grid to power it never ran out of space thou

Pete.

-- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN

HUmmmm i see well for your info non as yet (could do with a new lumbar spine thou) Pete . -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN

Hans du Plooy wrote:

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On Saturday 04 Sep 2004 22:26, James Knott wrote: Hummmmm i see you started with one of the BIG drives at 30Mb My first Hdd was a huge great 10Mb 5.25" full height thing that needed an

Lucky you - mine had two 160k floppy drives :-) But then I was far behind my friends on computers - only caught up last year when I bought my Athlon. And now I'm behind again.....

You're behind, as soon as you get your computer home! ;-)

My first computer I bought 4 years ago and it's a Pentium 3 733 MHz with 128 MBs RAM, a CD-RW drive and DVD-ROM drive built in, and I've since added to it making it 384 MBs RAM, and a Sound Blaster Live! card. I pulled out the POS "modem sound card". It has the HD in it that it came with. A 43 GB HD. 43 GBs is odd but the only time it ever says anything but 43 GBs is when it has a Fat32 File System. Then it says 42.9. Anwyay that was my first machine. It's running right now playing Lords of Acid and the rest of my play list (Mostly Punk Rock). Yea, I know, I'm young. On Monday 06 September 2004 10:57, Robert A. Rawlinson wrote:

You must have had double density. My first was one I built. It had 8008 cpu with 2k memory, no floppy or hd just a cassett rrecorder. It had no e prom to start it up so that involved setting 16 address switches and 8 data switches then pressing data enter switch. It took 15 min to load a program that way that would allow me to us the keyboard. Then another 15 min to key in a program in hex that told it how to read the cassett program. A system crash meant you had to go back and do it all over again. The time was 1974. I remember the $5000 5 meg HD which I think was the first out. I remember thinking that no one could ever use that much storage. Boy have things changed. Bob

Hans du Plooy wrote:

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On Saturday 04 Sep 2004 22:26, James Knott wrote: Hummmmm i see you started with one of the BIG drives at 30Mb My first Hdd was a huge great 10Mb 5.25" full height thing that needed an

Lucky you - mine had two 160k floppy drives :-) But then I was far behind my friends on computers - only caught up last year when I bought my Athlon. And now I'm behind again.....

Robert A. Rawlinson wrote:

You must have had double density. My first was one I built. It had 8008 cpu with 2k memory, no floppy or hd just a cassett rrecorder. It had no e prom to start it up so that involved setting 16 address switches and 8 data switches then pressing data enter switch. It took 15 min to load a program that way that would allow me to us the keyboard. Then another 15 min to key in a program in hex that told it how to read the cassett program. A system crash meant you had to go back and do it all over again. The time was 1974. I remember the $5000 5 meg HD which I think was the first out. I remember thinking that no one could ever use that much storage. Boy have things changed. Bob

My IMSAI cost me about $2000 (CDN) with 4K memory, but no I/O. As an indication of cost, a couple of months earlier, I had purchased a new 1976 Mercury Monarch for $6300. A couple of years ago, I bought a new Ford Taurus for a bit under 30,000, so a comparable computer purchase would be around $9,000. Also the car's performance hasn't improved quite a much as a computer's has in the past 28 years. ;-)

Allen wrote:

That's because cars now have wussy ass engines instead of V8 engines. The only car I can think of worth getting brand new is a Maclaren F1, and that's only because it will do 0-100 in 4 seconds and maxes out at 391.

The clock speed in that IMSAI was 2 MHz. Today's computers are over 1000x that. So, when that Maclaren can do 0-100 in 4 mS, then we have a valid comparison. Incidentally, both the V8 in the Monarch and the V6 in the Taurus are rated at 150 HP, but the Taurus is the better perfomer and gets better fuel economy.

* James Knott [09-06-04 12:40]:

The clock speed in that IMSAI was 2 MHz. Today's computers are over 1000x that. So, when that Maclaren can do 0-100 in 4 mS, then we have a valid comparison. Incidentally, both the V8 in the Monarch and the V6 in the Taurus are rated at 150 HP, but the Taurus is the better perfomer and gets better fuel economy.

And *this* conversation has *what* to do with the Subject of the thread or the Subject of your message? Please take it to the provided, intended forum ot-suse. Thanks for your expected cooperation and consideration. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

On Monday 06 September 2004 16:57, Robert A. Rawlinson wrote:

You must have had double density. My first was one I built. It Well, it was either double density single sided, or normal density double sided, I don't remember. Was 160k either ways.

One thing though, while S.A. was still in isolation, we were WAY behind on PC hardware. My father bought a XT computer, complete with orange screen, no graphics card (had to buy a separate card and load something like "g8sw" to activate graphics mode), two 360k floppy drives and no hard disc, in 1989 for his business. Hard drives were available, but very expensive (even for computer equipment). If I remember correctly, my dad also bought a new Ford Sierra 2.0, which cost less than the computer. 286 might have been available, but obviously way too expensive.... -- Kind regards Hans du Plooy Newington Consulting Services hansdp at newingtoncs dot co dot za

On Monday 06 September 2004 12:47 pm, Kolja Kauder wrote:

Ti Kan wrote:

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James Knott writes:

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Why all the excitement about gmail? What's it got that other e-mail accounts don't?

1GB of free storage.

-Ti

plus a virtually immortal provider. Oh, and of course tailor made spam for you ;-)

KK

So far, not one spam email has shown up. They seem to have some spam filtering in place. But of course there are topical ads appearing on each messages detail page, which attempt to relate to the message you are viewing. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

I still haven't seen it explained *WHY* I would want one. Gary Hodges wrote:

FYI, since I first posted Gmail has given me a bunch more invites. Send an email if you want one.

Gary

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 21:33:32 -0400, James Knott wrote:

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Gary Hodges wrote:

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I meant to offer some Gmail invites to the group to those interested. I have six or seven available. Just shoot me an email.

Why all the excitement about gmail? What's it got that other e-mail accounts don't?

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On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:13:53 -0600, Gary Hodges wrote:

For others seeking accounts... I just sent off my last invite. I think I gave away around 25 invites here with my offer. Every one who requested one was sent one (and even James who didn't :-)), so hopefully they all have been received. Gmail has been giving me these things faster than I could give them away. If, or more likely when, I get more invites I'll offer them to the SuSE list.

I have some gmail invites if anyone wants one email me privetly. Walt

By the way the best way to cause the death of a thread is to ignore it. This works better than asking people to go to another list as only the minority of people interested in the subject will reply. Olly NB: Yes, I am on lots of mail groups for various reasons. Yes. I am using windows for various reasons. No I can't be bothered to explain why. -----Original Message----- From: Anders Norrbring [mailto:lists@norrbring.se] Sent: 04 September 2004 17:38 To: 'Walt Frampus'; suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: RE: [SLE] Gmail Invites

Subject: Re: [SLE] Gmail Invites

I have some gmail invites if anyone wants one email me privetly.

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Hello,

I still haven't seen it explained *WHY* I would want one.

These are the reasons *I love* my gmail account -- 1. 1 GB of storage 2. very nice message threading 3. google search 4. new way of organizing mail. Instead of sorting into folders, you apply 'labels'. You can apply more than one label, so a message can exist in more than one 'folder' at once. 5. nearly 100% keyboard navigatable 6. NON-INTRUSIVE ad's. Yahoo's ads take up like half the screen, and hotmails are always flashy. Gmail are just little text ads on the right, much like a google search. The others also add their own tags to the bottom of your message as well. Gmail does not. 7. very speedy. Sometimes hotmail and yahoo can take forever to send/transmit messages. I have not had the problem with gmail. 8. very nice filtering options. 9. I love google anyway. Hope this is what you were looking for. Also, I have invites for the first 5 people to shoot me an e-mail. I am sure this will all happen today (Saturday Sept 4 Mountain Standard Time), so please don't send me a message after that. I don't want to get volumes of requests I don't have invites for! Gmail Rocks!! Kirk

Please take this to the OT list where it belongs. Ken

olusola Fadero wrote:

Gary Hodges wrote:

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I meant to offer some Gmail invites to the group to those interested. I have six or seven available. Just shoot me an email.

Why all the excitement about gmail? What's it got that other e-mail accounts don't?

Exitement due to: 1. You have to be invited to have an account or have a blogger. 2. Being able to get your name if you sign up quickly enought.

Woop Dee Doo!!! I guess I have better ways to waste my time.

Freemail spymac.com has free 1GB capacity too. Without invites and with POP3. No limit for size of sended/received emails. Dne sobota 04 září 2004 03:33 James Knott napsal(a):

Gary Hodges wrote:

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I meant to offer some Gmail invites to the group to those interested. I have six or seven available. Just shoot me an email.

Why all the excitement about gmail? What's it got that other e-mail accounts don't?

-- Marek Libra ____________________ +420777039948 ICQ: 269473444

Carl, On Sunday 05 September 2004 07:58, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:

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Well does it handle pop3 and smtp?

Nope. There is only a Web interface. From http://gmail.google.com/gmail/help/about.html>: "6. Does Gmail support automatic forwarding and POP3 access? "Not at the moment, but Google believes in helping people access information whenever and however they want to do so. In the future you will be able to access Gmail messages from non-Gmail accounts for free or at a nominal fee."

CWSIV

Randall Schulz