[opensuse] I need opensuse 8.1
Hello, I need OpenSUSE 8.1, where can I download it from? Thanks, Meir
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 03:01:16AM -0400, Meir Hazon wrote:
Hello,
I need OpenSUSE 8.1, where can I download it from?
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/discontinued/i386/8.1/ Robert -- Robert Schiele Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:rschiele@gmail.com "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur."
Robert Schiele wrote:
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 03:01:16AM -0400, Meir Hazon wrote:
Hello,
I need OpenSUSE 8.1, where can I download it from?
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/discontinued/i386/8.1/
That isn't really opensuse though - opensuse first appeared in 2005, right? J --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 08 October 2006 03:40, J Sloan wrote:
Robert Schiele wrote:
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 03:01:16AM -0400, Meir Hazon wrote:
Hello,
I need OpenSUSE 8.1, where can I download it from?
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/discontinued/i386/8.1/
That isn't really opensuse though - opensuse first appeared in 2005, right?
J
That is what happens when one reads the question really carefully :-) But I think that Meir meant SuSE. -- Regards, Rajko M. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 06/10/08 03:01 (GMT-0400) Meir Hazon apparently typed:
I need OpenSUSE 8.1, where can I download it from?
The first OpenSUSE version was 10.0. -- "The Lord is my strength and my shield; my heart trusts in him, and I am helped." Psalm 28:7 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 08 October 2006 04:09, Felix Miata wrote:
On 06/10/08 03:01 (GMT-0400) Meir Hazon apparently typed:
I need OpenSUSE 8.1, where can I download it from?
The first OpenSUSE version was 10.0.
Hmm... I thought it was openSUSE 10.2 Alpha 3 :-) http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_News Title:SUSE Linux 10.2 Alpha 2 & Distribution Renaming (Jul 13 2006) -- Regards, Rajko M. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 06/10/08 04:59 (GMT-0500) Rajko M apparently typed:
On Sunday 08 October 2006 04:09, Felix Miata wrote:
On 06/10/08 03:01 (GMT-0400) Meir Hazon apparently typed:
I need OpenSUSE 8.1, where can I download it from?
The first OpenSUSE version was 10.0.
Hmm... I thought it was openSUSE 10.2 Alpha 3 :-) http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_News Title:SUSE Linux 10.2 Alpha 2 & Distribution Renaming (Jul 13 2006)
I was counting from when it became open, not from when they diddled with the name. There were no freely downloadable isos, or open testing and bugzilla participation, until after 9.3 was out the door. -- "The Lord is my strength and my shield; my heart trusts in him, and I am helped." Psalm 28:7 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 03:04:17PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I was counting from when it became open, not from when they diddled with the name. There were no freely downloadable isos, or open testing and bugzilla participation, until after 9.3 was out the door.
Sure? ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.2/iso/SUSE-Linux-9.2-FTP-DVD.iso Robert -- Robert Schiele Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:rschiele@gmail.com "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur."
On 06/10/08 21:16 (GMT+0200) Robert Schiele apparently typed:
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 03:04:17PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I was counting from when it became open, not from when they diddled with the name. There were no freely downloadable isos, or open testing and bugzilla participation, until after 9.3 was out the door.
Sure?
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.2/iso/SUSE-Linux-9.2-FTP-DVD.iso
I don't see the 5(?) installation CD isos there. For many who have no DVD capability or limited space for downloading huge files, that's close to or fully useless. There's still the "open" testing (factory) issue. Until after 9.3, it wasn't exactly open, just free for ftp installers or DVD downloaders. -- "The Lord is my strength and my shield; my heart trusts in him, and I am helped." Psalm 28:7 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 08 October 2006 14:34, Felix Miata wrote:
On 06/10/08 21:16 (GMT+0200) Robert Schiele apparently typed:
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 03:04:17PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I was counting from when it became open, not from when they diddled with the name. There were no freely downloadable isos, or open testing and bugzilla participation, until after 9.3 was out the door.
Sure?
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.2/iso/SUSE-Linux-9.2-FTP-DVD.iso
I don't see the 5(?) installation CD isos there. For many who have no DVD capability or limited space for downloading huge files, that's close to or fully useless. There's still the "open" testing (factory) issue. Until after 9.3, it wasn't exactly open, just free for ftp installers or DVD downloaders.
Felix, I like many of your articles because of strong logical reasoning. Today you have a bad day.
The first OpenSUSE version was 10.0.
You used OpenSUSE as a word, not as expression "open SUSE". While I'm not sensitive is it OpenSUSE or openSUSE, I see the difference between word and phrase. Open participation, free iso's etc. is not required for distro to be open. If you would say:"Version 10.0 was open because there was no proprietary software in it.", I'll accept that as fact, and said that you are right, as many times before. The fact is that SUSE, SuSE and S.u.S.E. were de facto free long time before 10.0, but contained proprietary YaST, that made them not open distribution. -- Regards, Rajko M. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 06/10/08 15:48 (GMT-0500) Rajko M apparently typed:
On Sunday 08 October 2006 14:34, Felix Miata wrote:
The first OpenSUSE version was 10.0.
You used OpenSUSE as a word, not as expression "open SUSE". While I'm not sensitive is it OpenSUSE or openSUSE, I see the difference between word and phrase.
Open participation, free iso's etc. is not required for distro to be open. If you would say:"Version 10.0 was open because there was no proprietary software in it.", I'll accept that as fact, and said that you are right, as many times before.
The fact is that SUSE, SuSE and S.u.S.E. were de facto free long time before 10.0, but contained proprietary YaST, that made them not open distribution.
My point was about the timing of Novell's announced association of the word "open" with the word "suse", however they might be cased or punctuated or concatenated. I don't think there were any mirrors with an opensuse directory in their trees until after that association began, which happened for version 10.0. I characterize that as post-9.3, even if it may have been announced and pre-alpha work begun before that time. To me, "open" as applied to SUSE is just so many extra nuisance characters to type in an URL. It's still essentially SUSE or SuSE or S.U.S.E. or whatever started life so many years ago in DE before Novell got their ruinous noses to mucking around with it, sucking the high (German) quality away just like they did with their other shining star acquisitions (e.g. WordPerfect). With any luck and help from the help of the "open" community, Novell won't succeed in killing this gem. -- "The Lord is my strength and my shield; my heart trusts in him, and I am helped." Psalm 28:7 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 15:34 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I don't see the 5(?) installation CD isos there. For many who have no DVD capability or limited space for downloading huge files, that's close to or fully useless. There's still the "open" testing (factory) issue. Until after 9.3, it wasn't exactly open, just free for ftp installers or DVD downloaders.
"I don't see any rpms for my favourite distro anywhere on ftp.gnu.org. For many who won't know how to compile software, that's close to or fully useless. For this reason, GNU/FSF does not provide open software, just free for experienced users, because they don't provide me with everything I need for my own particular needs." Kind of a silly argument there, don't you think? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 06/10/08 23:04 (GMT+0200) Anders Johansson apparently typed:
On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 15:34 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I don't see the 5(?) installation CD isos there. For many who have no DVD capability or limited space for downloading huge files, that's close to or fully useless. There's still the "open" testing (factory) issue. Until after 9.3, it wasn't exactly open, just free for ftp installers or DVD downloaders.
"I don't see any rpms for my favourite distro anywhere on ftp.gnu.org. For many who won't know how to compile software, that's close to or fully useless. For this reason, GNU/FSF does not provide open software, just free for experienced users, because they don't provide me with everything I need for my own particular needs."
Kind of a silly argument there, don't you think?
I have no idea, because I have no idea what point you're trying to make. -- "The Lord is my strength and my shield; my heart trusts in him, and I am helped." Psalm 28:7 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 17:12 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 06/10/08 23:04 (GMT+0200) Anders Johansson apparently typed:
On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 15:34 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I don't see the 5(?) installation CD isos there. For many who have no DVD capability or limited space for downloading huge files, that's close to or fully useless. There's still the "open" testing (factory) issue. Until after 9.3, it wasn't exactly open, just free for ftp installers or DVD downloaders.
"I don't see any rpms for my favourite distro anywhere on ftp.gnu.org. For many who won't know how to compile software, that's close to or fully useless. For this reason, GNU/FSF does not provide open software, just free for experienced users, because they don't provide me with everything I need for my own particular needs."
Kind of a silly argument there, don't you think?
I have no idea, because I have no idea what point you're trying to make.
I should have thought that was obvious. The point is that just because the format for distribution isn't exactly suited to your personal needs, that's not a sufficient criterion for saying it isn't open Some people said it wasn't open back when there were no ISOs, that there must be ISOs for it to be a usable distro. Others started complaining when there was only ISOs. No matter what you do, someone will complain because it's not 100% to their taste It might not be suitable, perhaps not even usable, bot kindly don't say it isn't open, because it devalues the meaning of the word --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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