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Ben Rosenberg

1 Nov 2002 1 Nov '02

21:53

I have a favor to ask of the list subscribers and I know a lot of others who probably feel this way as well... Can people not hijack email treads by just changing the subject and asking a new question? Email clients who display by strict threading keep the threads together no matter if the subject has changed or not. I don't know anyone else policy on this, but hijacked email threads recieve a swipe of the d key from me. The point to using threading is to keep things in an order.. :) Thanks. /end rant/request. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I tell you what you should see.

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Togan Muftuoglu

1 Nov 1 Nov

21:52

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

* Ben Rosenberg; on 01 Nov, 2002 wrote:

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I have a favor to ask of the list subscribers and I know a lot of others who probably feel this way as well... +1 I don't know anyone else policy on this, but hijacked email threads recieve a swipe of the d key from me. The point to using threading is to keep things in an order.. :) +1

And please do not CC or TO or BCC or Send a direct reply unless the person has specifically asked. Let us grab our own mail from the list. Mails addressed to me directly under heavy ( and I mean real heavy spam) control in addition to the above mentioned *d* key Thanks -- Togan Muftuoglu Unofficial SuSE FAQ Maintainer http://dinamizm.ath.cx

John Andersen

2 Nov 2 Nov

06:07

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

On Friday 01 November 2002 12:52 pm, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

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* Ben Rosenberg; on 01 Nov, 2002 wrote:

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I have a favor to ask of the list subscribers and I know a lot of others who probably feel this way as well...

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And please do not CC or TO or BCC or Send a direct reply unless the person has specifically asked. Let us grab our own mail from the list. Mails addressed to me directly under heavy ( and I mean real heavy spam) control in addition to the above mentioned *d* key

You have to realize Togan, that this list is setu up with the default reply being the SENDER not the LIST, and that is why people probably reply to you more often. (This is a dumb way to run a list in my opinion, but thats the way its set up). -- _________________________________________________ No I Don't Yahoo! And I'm getting pretty sick of being asked if I do. _________________________________________________ John Andersen / Juneau Alaska

Ben Rosenberg

06:21

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

* John Andersen (jsa@pen.homeip.net) [021101 22:10]: ->On Friday 01 November 2002 12:52 pm, Togan Muftuoglu wrote: ->> * Ben Rosenberg; on 01 Nov, 2002 wrote: ->> >I have a favor to ask of the list subscribers and I know a lot of others ->> >who probably feel this way as well... -> ->> ->> And please do not CC or TO or BCC or Send a direct reply unless the ->> person has specifically asked. Let us grab our own mail from the list. ->> Mails addressed to me directly under heavy ( and I mean real heavy spam) ->> control in addition to the above mentioned *d* key -> ->You have to realize Togan, that this list is setu up with the default ->reply being the SENDER not the LIST, and that is why people ->probably reply to you more often. -> ->(This is a dumb way to run a list in my opinion, but thats the ->way its set up). I have to agree. It's dumb to expect people to look at what they are doing and to pay attention. People don't much care if the reason given is valid for the people who give the "free" service..they just want those who give the "free" service to make it as braindead an activity as possible. They don't want to click..backspace..type the alias..send. It's much to difficult an action to preform. They believe in the Burger King way..." Your way ..right away." This is a general thing. Not a dig on any one poster to this list. It's an everyday occurance. <whatever you like> for dummies rule this planet and I don't see it changing anytime soon. It's going to get worse now that Microsoft and any other company can get convicted and not pay for their crimes. As long as those crimes might hurt the stockmarket. oh well. Things happen. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I tell you what you should see.

Togan Muftuoglu

06:41

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* John Andersen; on 01 Nov, 2002 wrote:

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On Friday 01 November 2002 12:52 pm, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

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* Ben Rosenberg; on 01 Nov, 2002 wrote:

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I have a favor to ask of the list subscribers and I know a lot of others who probably feel this way as well...

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And please do not CC or TO or BCC or Send a direct reply unless the person has specifically asked. Let us grab our own mail from the list. Mails addressed to me directly under heavy ( and I mean real heavy spam) control in addition to the above mentioned *d* key

You have to realize Togan, that this list is setu up with the default reply being the SENDER not the LIST, and that is why people probably reply to you more often.

(This is a dumb way to run a list in my opinion, but thats the way its set up).

Sorry I assumed some responders were cleverer than a mailinglist my mistake :-) -- Togan Muftuoglu Unofficial SuSE FAQ Maintainer http://dinamizm.ath.cx

Dylan

14:44

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

On Friday 01 November 2002 21:52, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

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* Ben Rosenberg; on 01 Nov, 2002 wrote:

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I have a favor to ask of the list subscribers and I know a lot of others who probably feel this way as well...

+1

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I don't know anyone else policy on this, but hijacked email threads recieve a swipe of the d key from me. The point to using threading is to keep things in an order.. :)

+1

And please do not CC or TO or BCC or Send a direct reply unless the person has specifically asked. Let us grab our own mail from the list. Mails addressed to me directly under heavy ( and I mean real heavy spam) control in addition to the above mentioned *d* key

This isn't as transparent as it might be since the SuSE list mails have no REPLY-TO header!

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Thanks

-- "Sweet moderation Heart of this nation Desert us not, we are Between the wars"

Togan Muftuoglu

14:45

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

* Dylan; on 02 Nov, 2002 wrote:

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On Friday 01 November 2002 21:52, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

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And please do not CC or TO or BCC or Send a direct reply unless the person has specifically asked. Let us grab our own mail from the list. Mails addressed to me directly under heavy ( and I mean real heavy spam) control in addition to the above mentioned *d* key

This isn't as transparent as it might be since the SuSE list mails have no REPLY-TO header!

So no big deal if your mail user agent (refered as MUA herein after featureless to understand if the mail is coming from a mailing list then do your self a favour and create one yourself put the following in your $/.procmailrc and solve the problem # suse fix so that replies go to the list and not to the person. :0f ^X-Mailinglist: suse-linux-e | formail -bfi "Reply-To: SLE " Or use the feature of your MUA hit shift+l for mutt don't recall the one for Kmail but I do remember it has one "In order to solve the problems people should not be in the same mindset that created the problem" -- Togan Muftuoglu Unofficial SuSE FAQ Maintainer http://dinamizm.ath.cx

gilson redrick

3 Nov 3 Nov

01:40

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

On Saturday, 02 November 2002 09:45, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

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don't recall the one for Kmail but I do remember it has one

Yes, Togan, the simple letter "l". -- Regards, gr (in /usually/ balmy, sunny Florida's Suncoast) [powered by SuSE-7.3 Linux 2.4.10]

gilson redrick

16:04

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

On Saturday, 02 November 2002 09:45, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

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don't recall the one for Kmail but I do remember it has one

Yes, Togan, the simple letter "l".

-- Regards, gr (in /usually/ balmy, sunny Florida's Suncoast) [powered by SuSE-7.3 Linux 2.4.10]

Philipp Thomas

2 Nov 2 Nov

22:22

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

Dylan [Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:44:38]:

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This isn't as transparent as it might be since the SuSE list mails have no REPLY-TO header!

And that's as it should! Think of a user with full mailbox. If Reply-To points to the list, the system will send the rejected mail to the list, which will once again send it to the user, e voila, a wonderful loop. Many MUAs have a feature called 'list reply', which will send the mail *only* to the list. Those that use MUAs without that feature (like I do) just have to edit the mail header. It's amazing that such simple editing tasks seem to be too much work for some people. Astonishingly there are mailing lists where people (mostly) do it right and follow common netiquette (i.e. post only to the list, avoid full quotes and top posting). Philipp -- Philipp Thomas work: pthomas@suse.de Development SuSE Linux AG private: pth@t-link.de

Frits J. Wüthrich

3 Nov 3 Nov

00:13

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

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Astonishingly there are mailing lists where people (mostly) do it right and follow common netiquette (i.e. post only to the list, avoid full quotes and top posting).

I am also on another mailing list about photography, and there it is considered common netiquette to do top posting, else people have to scroll down to read the reply, so it might end up in the trash bin if you don't top post. Oh well, so many people as there are opinions I guess. Frits Wüthrich

jaakko tamminen

02:22

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Hi I also prefer top-posting, when the message is short, even with many replies. When I follow a thread, I don't want to start scroling more and more after every message. But long messages are a different story. Jaska.

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Astonishingly there are mailing lists where people (mostly) do it right and follow common netiquette (i.e. post only to the list, avoid full quotes and top posting).

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considered common netiquette to do top posting, else people have to scroll Oh well, so many people as there are opinions I guess.

Philipp Thomas

01:13

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

jaakko tamminen [20021103 02:22]:

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When I follow a thread, I don't want to start scroling more and more after every message.

There needn't be very long messages if those that reply would stick to quoting only the relevant part they're replying to. But editing a reply seems too much work for many people and of course it's much easier to just put your comment on top of every thing, even when that's *not* the usual way communication is done. A normal conversation is always statement and reply, or do you answer before you're questioned? Why change the way a conversation normally goes only because it's a written one? Philipp -- What use is artificial intelligence if the natural one is lacking?

jaakko tamminen

03:24

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

Hi Yet another, who think that he is the only one being correct... Do You want to follow a conversation so, that before every new sentence You want to listen the conversation from the beginning? Jaska.

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A normal conversation is always statement and reply, or do you answer before you're questioned? Why change the way a conversation normally goes only because it's a written one?

Philipp

SuSEnixER

01:51

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

* jaakko tamminen [11-02-02 20:31]:

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* Philipp Thomas [3 Nov 2002 01:14:02 -0000]:

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A normal conversation is always statement and reply, or do you answer before you're questioned? Why change the way a conversation normally goes only because it's a written one?

Yet another, who think that he is the only one being correct...

Do You want to follow a conversation so, that before every new sentence You want to listen the conversation from the beginning?

So YOU read the answer and then automatically discern the question and conversation that led to the answer. In your world, there should never be a debate. You should offer your services to the police departments of the world. You would be able to solve cases before they existed. In a close group existing of a very few individuals all readily acquainted with the subject matter, TOFU in precise, limited statements would perhaps (perhaps) be desirable (perhaps). But, if you entered a discorse that had already progressed some distance from the start, it would be very nearly impossible to intelligently advance or comprehend the previous situations. And the next person to try to understand the conversation would be imposed. Would you write the final chapter to a book for publish before the beginning. Logic, not personal preference (or disregard) should rule. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org

Dan Coalman

03:14

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

While you bicker over the semantics and structure of Q&A threads here, others are using this forum as it was intended. Quibbling over how these messages are sent or viewed seems like such a petty waste of time to me. Is this what lies ahead in Linux forums? I certainly hope not. If we can't even agree on how to communicate with each other, how can we expect this community to grow? Focus on Linux issues..... please. I'm sick of Redmond dictating my I.T. career. Let's work together. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SuSEnixER" To: Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] A small request.

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* jaakko tamminen [11-02-02 20:31]:

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* Philipp Thomas [3 Nov 2002 01:14:02 -0000]:

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A normal conversation is always statement and reply, or do you answer before you're questioned? Why change the way a conversation normally goes only because it's a written one?

Yet another, who think that he is the only one being correct...

Do You want to follow a conversation so, that before every new sentence You want to listen the conversation from the beginning?

So YOU read the answer and then automatically discern the question and conversation that led to the answer.

In your world, there should never be a debate. You should offer your services to the police departments of the world. You would be able to solve cases before they existed.

In a close group existing of a very few individuals all readily acquainted with the subject matter, TOFU in precise, limited statements would perhaps (perhaps) be desirable (perhaps). But, if you entered a discorse that had already progressed some distance from the start, it would be very nearly impossible to intelligently advance or comprehend the previous situations. And the next person to try to understand the conversation would be imposed.

Would you write the final chapter to a book for publish before the beginning.

Logic, not personal preference (or disregard) should rule. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org

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Ruben I Safir

5 Nov 5 Nov

00:10

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

Noooo I rememeber it... because I just reaaad the previous message...

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So YOU read the answer and then automatically discern the question and conversation that led to the answer.

In your world, there should never be a debate. You should offer your services to the police departments of the world. You would be able to solve cases before they existed.

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rex

3 Nov 3 Nov

02:31

New subject: [SLE] Top posting violates RFC1855 (was: A small request)

jaakko tamminen [2002-11-02 18:13]:

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Yet another, who think that he is the only one being correct...

For newbies that think top posting is OK, I suggest that they read RFC1855. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html [...] Be brief without being overly terse. When replying to a message, include enough original material to be understood but no more. It is extremely bad form to simply reply to a message by including all the previous message: edit out all the irrelevant material. [...] If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the TOP [emphasis mine. -r] of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. This will make sure readers understand when they start to read your response. [...] -rex -- Dopeler effect: The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when they come at you rapidly.

Joe Sullivan

02:49

New subject: [SLE] Top posting violates RFC1855 (was: A small request)

On Sunday 03 November 2002 03:31, rex wrote:

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For newbies that think top posting is OK, I suggest that they read RFC1855. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html

And for everyone who really thinks this (and which way the toilet paper roll should hang probably) are really such a big deal that it must be dragged on for days, I suggest reading: http://www.amazinghumor.com/jokes/computerjokes/howtogetalife.shtml Joe

jaakko tamminen

11:38

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Hi Have You noticed, that people who top-post, usually solves the cases with just a few lines. bottom-posters often just post because "they know how it is correct to post"... But not in all cases, don't take me wrong. Jaska. On Sunday 03 November 2002 02:49, Joe Sullivan wrote:

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On Sunday 03 November 2002 03:31, rex wrote:

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For newbies that think top posting is OK, I suggest that they read RFC1855. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html

And for everyone who really thinks this (and which way the toilet paper roll should hang probably) are really such a big deal that it must be dragged on for days, I suggest reading:

http://www.amazinghumor.com/jokes/computerjokes/howtogetalife.shtml

Joe

Anders Johansson

10:04

New subject: [SLE] Top posting violates RFC1855 (was: A small request)

On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:38:24 +0000 jaakko tamminen wrote:

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Hi

Have You noticed, that people who top-post, usually solves the cases with just a few lines.

bottom-posters often just post because "they know how it is correct to post"...

I've only seen one case where that is true

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But not in all cases, don't take me wrong.

Jaska.

OK, if this thread is over now, let's discuss how to open a boiled egg. I say the little end! Anders

Curtis Rey

18:47

New subject: [SLE] Top posting violates RFC1855 (was: A small request)

On Sunday 03 November 2002 04:04, Anders Johansson wrote:

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OK, if this thread is over now, let's discuss how to open a boiled egg.

I say the little end!

Anders

I say the big end and I'm right! Curtis :O

Nick Zentena

19:09

New subject: [SLE] Top posting violates RFC1855 (was: A small request)

On November 3, 2002 01:47 pm, Curtis Rey wrote:

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On Sunday 03 November 2002 04:04, Anders Johansson wrote:

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OK, if this thread is over now, let's discuss how to open a boiled egg.

I say the little end!

Anders

I say the big end and I'm right!

You're both 100% wrong. You start in the middle. Everybody knows that. Nick

Ruben Safir

4 Nov 4 Nov

14:09

New subject: [SLE] Top posting violates RFC1855 (was: A small request)

I'm just in a bad mood this morning, but really... I hope someone is just kidding... Ruben On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 02:09:56PM -0500, Nick Zentena wrote:

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On November 3, 2002 01:47 pm, Curtis Rey wrote:

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On Sunday 03 November 2002 04:04, Anders Johansson wrote:

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OK, if this thread is over now, let's discuss how to open a boiled egg.

I say the little end!

Anders

I say the big end and I'm right!

You're both 100% wrong. You start in the middle. Everybody knows that.

Nick

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SuSEnixER

15:05

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* Ruben Safir [11-04-02 09:13]:

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I'm just in a bad mood this morning, but really...

I hope someone is just kidding...

Ruben

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 02:09:56PM -0500, Nick Zentena wrote:

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On November 3, 2002 01:47 pm, Curtis Rey wrote:

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On Sunday 03 November 2002 04:04, Anders Johansson wrote:

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OK, if this thread is over now, let's discuss how to open a boiled egg.

I say the little end!

I say the big end and I'm right!

You're both 100% wrong. You start in the middle. Everybody knows that.

I believe that this was presented with all seriousness. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org

jaakko tamminen

15:26

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Hi As I follow this thread, I know what has been said before, I DON'T want to scroll down to see only 1-line reply.. So top-posting would be nice in this case... Jaska. PS. Don't start again.. I'm stupid, don't follow my example! On Monday 04 November 2002 17:05, SuSEnixER wrote:

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* Ruben Safir [11-04-02 09:13]:

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I'm just in a bad mood this morning, but really...

I hope someone is just kidding...

Ruben

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 02:09:56PM -0500, Nick Zentena wrote:

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On November 3, 2002 01:47 pm, Curtis Rey wrote:

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On Sunday 03 November 2002 04:04, Anders Johansson wrote:

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OK, if this thread is over now, let's discuss how to open a boiled egg.

I say the little end!

I say the big end and I'm right!

You're both 100% wrong. You start in the middle. Everybody knows that.

I believe that this was presented with all seriousness.

Ruben I Safir

5 Nov 5 Nov

00:01

New subject: [SLE] Top posting violates RFC1855 (was: A small request)

Why send an empty message to me? Did you forget to say something or hit the send button too soon? On 2002.11.04 10:05 SuSEnixER wrote:

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* Ruben Safir [11-04-02 09:13]:

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I'm just in a bad mood this morning, but really...

I hope someone is just kidding...

Ruben

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 02:09:56PM -0500, Nick Zentena wrote:

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On November 3, 2002 01:47 pm, Curtis Rey wrote:

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On Sunday 03 November 2002 04:04, Anders Johansson wrote:

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OK, if this thread is over now, let's discuss how to open a boiled egg.

I say the little end!

I say the big end and I'm right!

You're both 100% wrong. You start in the middle. Everybody knows that.

I believe that this was presented with all seriousness. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org

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SuSEnixER

02:27

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* Ruben I Safir [11-04-02 19:08]:

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Why send an empty message to me?

Did you forget to say something or hit the send button too soon?

On 2002.11.04 10:05 SuSEnixER wrote:

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* Ruben Safir [11-04-02 09:13]:

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I'm just in a bad mood this morning, but really...

I hope someone is just kidding...

Ruben

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 02:09:56PM -0500, Nick Zentena wrote:

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On November 3, 2002 01:47 pm, Curtis Rey wrote:

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On Sunday 03 November 2002 04:04, Anders Johansson wrote:

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OK, if this thread is over now, let's discuss how to open a boiled egg.

I say the little end!

I say the big end and I'm right!

You're both 100% wrong. You start in the middle. Everybody knows that.

I believe that this was presented with all seriousness.

You top quote, do not trim and seem to believe that it is correct to post to the list and to the original poster. You, sir, are inconsiderate and crass. ..bit-bucket.. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org

Doug McGarrett

01:56

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The following URL is not available: http://fairuse.nylxs.com --doug, wa2say articles from around the net

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Ruben I Safir

06:31

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Thanks It is definetely getting hits. Can you reach http://www.nylxs.com Ruben On 2002.11.04 20:56 Doug McGarrett wrote:

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The following URL is not available: http://fairuse.nylxs.com --doug, wa2say

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Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585

Doug McGarrett

6 Nov 6 Nov

01:51

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Thanks

It is definetely getting hits.

Can you reach http://www.nylxs.com

Ruben

On 2002.11.04 20:56 Doug McGarrett wrote:

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The following URL is not available: http://fairuse.nylxs.com --doug, wa2say

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Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com

http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and

As of this evening, I can reach both the site you specified, and the one that was unavailable the other day. --doug, wa2say At 01:31 11/05/2002 -0500, Ruben I Safir wrote: articles from around the net

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http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....

1-718-382-0585

Ruben I Safir

5 Nov 5 Nov

00:14

New subject: [SLE] Top posting violates RFC1855 (was: A small request)

It would be better is the SCC spec worked correctly and where more tightly defined. And why does sendmail keep changing the permisions of the mqueue dir? Ruben PS - I'm lefthanded and HATE the RFC on toilet paper hanging On 2002.11.02 21:49 Joe Sullivan wrote:

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On Sunday 03 November 2002 03:31, rex wrote:

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For newbies that think top posting is OK, I suggest that they read RFC1855. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html

And for everyone who really thinks this (and which way the toilet paper roll should hang probably) are really such a big deal that it must be dragged on for days, I suggest reading:

http://www.amazinghumor.com/jokes/computerjokes/howtogetalife.shtml

Joe

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Salman Khilji

3 Nov 3 Nov

11:39

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Yes...Good idea. Now where's the moron who is top-posting here! Salman On Saturday 02 November 2002 18:31, rex wrote:

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jaakko tamminen [2002-11-02 18:13]:

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Yet another, who think that he is the only one being correct...

For newbies that think top posting is OK, I suggest that they read RFC1855.

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html

[...]

Be brief without being overly terse. When replying to a message, include enough original material to be understood but no more. It is extremely bad form to simply reply to a message by including all the previous message: edit out all the irrelevant material.

[...]

If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the TOP [emphasis mine. -r] of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. This will make sure readers understand when they start to read your response.

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-rex

Ruben I Safir

5 Nov 5 Nov

00:03

New subject: [SLE] Top posting violates RFC1855 (was: A small request)

Clearly when we teach GNU/Linux 1 First thing we teach them is to use VI, right after reading this important FAQ. But when I do this, all the AIM Instant messaging stuff lights up on everyones desktops and the network get flooded. Ruben On 2002.11.03 06:39 Salman Khilji wrote:

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Yes...Good idea.

Now where's the moron who is top-posting here!

Salman

On Saturday 02 November 2002 18:31, rex wrote:

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jaakko tamminen [2002-11-02 18:13]:

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Yet another, who think that he is the only one being correct...

For newbies that think top posting is OK, I suggest that they read RFC1855.

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html

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Be brief without being overly terse. When replying to a message, include enough original material to be understood but no more. It is extremely bad form to simply reply to a message by including all the previous message: edit out all the irrelevant material.

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If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the TOP [emphasis mine. -r] of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. This will make sure readers understand when they start to read your response.

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-rex

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Ruben I Safir

00:13

New subject: [SLE] Top posting violates RFC1855 (was: A small request)

Well I won't. I'm sorry. I'm not reading an FAQ on how to write my email ... Although this whole thread is a cause of great entertainment... Just the thing I needed to break up my day. Ruben

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http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html

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Ruben I Safir

00:09

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

That's not the dynamic reading email threads.... Only chatrooms On 2002.11.02 21:22 jaakko tamminen wrote:

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Hi

I also prefer top-posting, when the message is short, even with many replies.

When I follow a thread, I don't want to start scroling more and more after every message.

But long messages are a different story.

Jaska.

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Astonishingly there are mailing lists where people (mostly) do it right and follow common netiquette (i.e. post only to the list, avoid full quotes and top posting).

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considered common netiquette to do top posting, else people have to scroll Oh well, so many people as there are opinions I guess.

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3 Nov 3 Nov

00:14

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

* Philipp Thomas [11-02-02 17:25]:

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Astonishingly there are mailing lists where people (mostly) do it right and follow common netiquette (i.e. post only to the list, avoid full quotes and top posting).

And use Indicative Subjects and do not break threds. It would be a Utopia. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org

Patrick

1 Nov 1 Nov

21:59

New subject: [SLE] A small request.

On Friday 01 November 2002 16:53, Ben Rosenberg wrote:

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I have a favor to ask of the list subscribers and I know a lot of others who probably feel this way as well...

Can people not hijack email treads by just changing the subject and asking a new question? Email clients who display by strict threading keep the threads together no matter if the subject has changed or not.

I don't know anyone else policy on this, but hijacked email threads recieve a swipe of the d key from me. The point to using threading is to keep things in an order.. :)

Thanks. /end rant/request. =================

Seems to be a reasonable request to me and one I could live with on the list as well. :o) Patrick -- --- KMail v1.4.3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206

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