Il 16/10/2014 11:12, ianseeks ha scritto:

On Thursday 16 Oct 2014 09:26:40 Ken Schneider wrote:

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On 10/16/2014 08:42 AM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Very annoying problem!

Whenever I try to install a new rpm (VirtualBox updates in the majority) I click on install using software installer...

Which installer (YaST, zypper, rpm)? People on this list need to know all of the details as we cannot "see" what you typed or clicked on.

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The software installer starts, verify dependencies then always resolves into error and package went not installed.

What error? Again, we cannot "see" what you are doing.

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The only way is to download the rpm then install it by hand.

using which installer?

at a guess i'd say its "apper" as on opensuse it seems to be installed by default and i've yet to find a way to disable it in one hit. i've never got it to get passed the dependency failure. i tend to use "zypper" which always seems to work.

Yes by hand both "rpm -Uvh" amd "zypper in" are working. I'm using Gnome desktop, I know apper is KDE app then I ddon't know if your thought is right for me.

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Ubuntu is flawless on this process!

Cheers,

Cheers -- Marco Calistri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Il 16/10/2014 10:26, Ken Schneider ha scritto:

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using which installer?

I don't know for sure, it happens with Gnome, I suppose being the default Gnome software installer!

For you does it works? In Gnome it works?

Most of us use the default openSUSE installer, not the Gnome installer. That is, YaST. And of course it works. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlRBgtcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VfBgCePr2L8H0n4B6qKQJWWrRc1MDR r6IAnjL5Hv8WJQTYwukzZ+wBVW6sKvkK =ZwFJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Il 21/10/2014 11:15, Marco Calistri ha scritto:

Il 17/10/2014 17:58, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

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On 2014-10-17 21:11, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 16/10/2014 10:26, Ken Schneider ha scritto:

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using which installer?

I don't know for sure, it happens with Gnome, I suppose being the default Gnome software installer!

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For you does it works? In Gnome it works?

Most of us use the default openSUSE installer, not the Gnome installer. That is, YaST. And of course it works.

Carlos,

I will give it a try and post the result.

Regards,

Tried with package installer, software installer, Yast installer... All broken! Which installer is hidden behind your opensuse-installer please? Regards, -- Marco Calistri opensuse 13.2 (Harlequin) 64 bit - Kernel 3.17.3-1.g76fe48f-default Gnome 3.14.1 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Il 27/11/2014 20:58, Patrick Shanahan ha scritto:

* Marco Calistri [11-27-14 15:19]:

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Il 21/10/2014 11:15, Marco Calistri ha scritto:

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Il 17/10/2014 17:58, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

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On 2014-10-17 21:11, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 16/10/2014 10:26, Ken Schneider ha scritto:

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using which installer?

I don't know for sure, it happens with Gnome, I suppose being the default Gnome software installer!

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For you does it works? In Gnome it works?

Most of us use the default openSUSE installer, not the Gnome installer. That is, YaST. And of course it works.

Carlos,

I will give it a try and post the result.

Regards,

Tried with package installer, software installer, Yast installer... All broken!

Which installer is hidden behind your opensuse-installer please?

rpm is the package installer for openSUSE.

In order for anyone to help you, specific information must be provided as to what you are doing. Go into detail. The description you have provided leaves much to the crystal ball and mine is very broken, ie: the car shakes when I turn left (car is a 1954 three wheel Fiat).

All of the "package installers" I have tried that are intended for openSUSE work and, although I normally only utilize rpm and zypper, I have used apper and YaST{2} successfully.

I believe I have provided more details at the beginning of this thread. The issue I face is attempting to install an RPM package simply by double clicking on it, or better attempting to download from a remote site and install (Oracle VirtualBox new versions is the specific case). All the software manager I selected from "open-with" option in Nautilus have failed. I think the user control over the type o file is not fully available in Nautilus which offers just some suggested applications, nor is proposed a way to create an "ad-hoc" script to run a program as for example "sudo yast --update RPM", or at least this is not visible for the user. Very disappointed! -- Marco Calistri opensuse 13.2 (Harlequin) 64 bit - Kernel 3.17.3-1.g76fe48f-default Gnome 3.14.1 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Il 27/11/2014 22:45, Patrick Shanahan ha scritto:

* Marco Calistri [11-27-14 19:24]:

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Il 27/11/2014 20:58, Patrick Shanahan ha scritto:

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* Marco Calistri [11-27-14 15:19]:

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Il 21/10/2014 11:15, Marco Calistri ha scritto:

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Il 17/10/2014 17:58, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

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On 2014-10-17 21:11, Marco Calistri wrote: > Il 16/10/2014 10:26, Ken Schneider ha scritto:

>> using which installer? >> > I don't know for sure, it happens with Gnome, I suppose > being the default Gnome software installer!

> For you does it works? In Gnome it works?

Most of us use the default openSUSE installer, not the Gnome installer. That is, YaST. And of course it works.

Carlos,

I will give it a try and post the result.

Regards,

Tried with package installer, software installer, Yast installer... All broken!

Which installer is hidden behind your opensuse-installer please?

rpm is the package installer for openSUSE.

In order for anyone to help you, specific information must be provided as to what you are doing. Go into detail. The description you have provided leaves much to the crystal ball and mine is very broken, ie: the car shakes when I turn left (car is a 1954 three wheel Fiat).

All of the "package installers" I have tried that are intended for openSUSE work and, although I normally only utilize rpm and zypper, I have used apper and YaST{2} successfully.

I believe I have provided more details at the beginning of this thread.

No, you did not. You offered a lot of "guesses" and stabbing attempts without prior knowledge of their operation on openSUSE. You offered that *butu was flawless, wondering: Why are you here then!

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The issue I face is attempting to install an RPM package simply by double clicking on it, or better attempting to download from a remote site and install (Oracle VirtualBox new versions is the specific case).

Double clicking???

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All the software manager I selected from "open-with" option in Nautilus have failed.

I think the user control over the type o file is not fully available in Nautilus which offers just some suggested applications, nor is proposed a way to create an "ad-hoc" script to run a program as for example "sudo yast --update RPM", or at least this is not visible for the user.

I don't know nautilus as it is gnome and I use KDE. That said, and I do not do it this way, but firefox should open the download with yast or offer to do so and install it for you. For the particular packages you ad citing, I dl the rpm and install locally as you also need the extention package and the guest additions which to my knowledge do not have system specific installers.

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Very disappointed!

Because you do not know everything? All of us have to ask questions and experiment at one time or another and were not born with the knowledge as you were not.

ps: expressing disdain and/or disappointment for our beloved openSUSE is not putting a good foot forward :^), consider that when asking for help. In case you hadn't noticed, I like openSUSE and *most* of the posters here have chosen it, also. As I said earlier, if *butu is so good ....

Ok I understood your point: you are the kind of user that is generous in teaching the "tech-niquette" and pretty (or may be voluntarily) limited to try to understand a problem, in order to offer any eventual suggestion. I'm here because I want, I am here because I'm an openSUSE user but not for this reason I avoid to express *personal* criticism if I find some glitches in comparison to other distros. Regards, -- Marco Calistri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/28/2014 09:44 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2014-11-28 15:34, Marco Calistri wrote:

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I'm here because I want, I am here because I'm an openSUSE user but not for this reason I avoid to express *personal* criticism if I find some glitches in comparison to other distros.

But it took you a month to tell us that you were clicking on Nautilus!

If you had posted your question like:

"double clicking on an rpm in nautilus fails to install it (using version XX.Y)"

... Of OpenSuse ... Of nautilus ... Of RPM and since, by using ldd, you can find the libraries that the normal tools to install RPMs make use of, that is 'zypper' and 'rpm', you might note that bot make use of the 'librpm' and 'librpmio' libraries. you might also have noticed that 'rpm' is the package management standard. The use of 'apropos' would have told you of the manual page for RPM and that it is clearly labelled as the package manager. You might also tell us what external programs nautilus is configured to use when clicking on a RPM file, that is what MIME-type settings you have (either specific to nautilus or globally) and investigated for yourself, possibly by RTFM, what that program does and what output it produces with the parameters nautilus would give it. It may even be that the way you have nautilus configured with suse is different from the way you have it configured with your 'other' distribution I'll note that checking those libraries and checking my MIME settings tool less time that it took to type up this email response. So I'm in full agreement with Carlos!

then you would have attracted the right people with appropriate knowledge and answers. You did not!

+1 Details up front please "Context is Everything" -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/28/2014 05:46 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

tools to install RPMs make use of ................

- maybe, as root , command : # rpm -Uvh 'package-name'.rpm ............. regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

В Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:34:16 -0200 Marco Calistri пишет:

Il 28/11/2014 13:57, ellanios82 ha scritto:

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On 11/28/2014 05:46 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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tools to install RPMs make use of ................

- maybe, as root , command :

# rpm -Uvh 'package-name'.rpm

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regards

By hand I know as to solve this problem, but I would like a "click and go" solution as should be in a modern desktop despite being Linux.

As I already said it works for me in GNOME. You may want to check MIME associations. bor@opensuse:~> xdg-mime query default application/x-rpm org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop gnome-software-local-file.desktop

Thanks in any case.

Regards,

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В Fri, 28 Nov 2014 16:04:05 -0200 Marco Calistri пишет:

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As I already said it works for me in GNOME. You may want to check MIME associations.

bor@opensuse:~> xdg-mime query default application/x-rpm org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop gnome-software-local-file.desktop

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Thanks in any case.

Regards,

Exactly Andrei,

I wish to check and also modify/customize my MIME associations, how can I do this last action?

I did not customize anything. It works out of the box. What about checking your current associations for a start? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2014-11-28 19:04, Marco Calistri wrote:

Il 28/11/2014 15:58, Andrei Borzenkov ha scritto:

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В Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:34:16 -0200 Marco Calistri <> пишет:

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bor@opensuse:~> xdg-mime query default application/x-rpm org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop gnome-software-local-file.desktop

Exactly Andrei,

I wish to check and also modify/customize my MIME associations, how can I do this last action?

He told you already how to check. Look again, on this very post. Mine: cer@Telcontar:~> xdg-mime query default application/x-rpm package-manager.desktop cer@Telcontar:~> which would result in whatever "package-manager.desktop" says to run. cer@Telcontar:~> locate package-manager.desktop /other/test_a1/usr/share/applications/package-manager.desktop /usr/share/applications/package-manager.desktop cer@Telcontar:~> cat /usr/share/applications/package-manager.desktop [Desktop Entry] X-SuSE-translate=true Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Install/Remove Software Exec=package-manager --install %F Icon=package-manager-icon Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=System;PackageManager;X-SuSE-ControlCenter-System; MimeType=application/x-rpm;application/x-redhat-package-manager; StartupNotify=true cer@Telcontar:~> Ie, it would try to run "/usr/bin/package-manager", which is a part of "libzypp", at least in my system. It is, in fact, a script: cer@Telcontar:~> file /usr/bin/package-manager /usr/bin/package-manager: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable It has 195 lines, and it appear to call several programs depending on its logic. I see entries for "yast2 --install", "zen-installer" (zen) "kpackagekit" (kde), "gpk-install-local-file" (gnome) The decision is based on the contents of "$METHOD", which, in 13.1, is set this way: METHOD=yast # determine what we can use if $HAVE_KPACKAGEKIT && [ "$KDE_FULL_SESSION" ]; then METHOD=kpackagekit elif $HAVE_GPACKAGEKIT && [ "$WINDOWMANAGER" == "/usr/bin/gnome" ]; then METHOD=gnome-packagekit else if [ "$STACK" == "zlm" ]; then METHOD="zlm" else METHOD="yast" fi fi echo $METHOD Which in my case it results in "yast". The script calls the full graphical yast (sw_single module), and this functionality has been removed in 13.2, I believe (from yast). Now, YOU go and check yours. :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

Il 28/11/2014 16:47, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

On 2014-11-28 19:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2014-11-28 19:04, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 28/11/2014 15:58, Andrei Borzenkov ha scritto:

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Which in my case it results in "yast". The script calls the full graphical yast (sw_single module), and this functionality has been removed in 13.2, I believe (from yast).

And I tested it works by clicking on an rpm from inside Thunar.

Thunar is coming from which DE? Thanks. Regards, -- Marco Calistri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Il 28/11/2014 16:44, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

On 2014-11-28 19:04, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 28/11/2014 15:58, Andrei Borzenkov ha scritto:

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В Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:34:16 -0200 Marco Calistri <> пишет:

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bor@opensuse:~> xdg-mime query default application/x-rpm org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop gnome-software-local-file.desktop

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Exactly Andrei,

I wish to check and also modify/customize my MIME associations, how can I do this last action?

He told you already how to check. Look again, on this very post.

Mine:

cer@Telcontar:~> xdg-mime query default application/x-rpm package-manager.desktop cer@Telcontar:~>

which would result in whatever "package-manager.desktop" says to run.

cer@Telcontar:~> locate package-manager.desktop /other/test_a1/usr/share/applications/package-manager.desktop /usr/share/applications/package-manager.desktop cer@Telcontar:~> cat /usr/share/applications/package-manager.desktop [Desktop Entry] X-SuSE-translate=true Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Install/Remove Software Exec=package-manager --install %F Icon=package-manager-icon Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=System;PackageManager;X-SuSE-ControlCenter-System; MimeType=application/x-rpm;application/x-redhat-package-manager; StartupNotify=true

cer@Telcontar:~>

Ie, it would try to run "/usr/bin/package-manager", which is a part of "libzypp", at least in my system. It is, in fact, a script:

cer@Telcontar:~> file /usr/bin/package-manager /usr/bin/package-manager: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable

It has 195 lines, and it appear to call several programs depending on its logic. I see entries for "yast2 --install", "zen-installer" (zen) "kpackagekit" (kde), "gpk-install-local-file" (gnome)

The decision is based on the contents of "$METHOD", which, in 13.1, is set this way:

METHOD=yast # determine what we can use if $HAVE_KPACKAGEKIT && [ "$KDE_FULL_SESSION" ]; then METHOD=kpackagekit elif $HAVE_GPACKAGEKIT && [ "$WINDOWMANAGER" == "/usr/bin/gnome" ]; then METHOD=gnome-packagekit else if [ "$STACK" == "zlm" ]; then METHOD="zlm" else METHOD="yast" fi fi

echo $METHOD

Which in my case it results in "yast". The script calls the full graphical yast (sw_single module), and this functionality has been removed in 13.2, I believe (from yast).

Now, YOU go and check yours. :-)

A question, What happens if you double-click on a RPM from your file-manager (hope it being Nautilus as in my case). Regards, -- Marco Calistri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Il 28/11/2014 22:01, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

On 2014-11-28 21:08, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 28/11/2014 16:44, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

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What happens if you double-click on a RPM from your file-manager (hope it being Nautilus as in my case).

As I said on another post, it is thunar. It comes with xfce. And it is irrelevant.

What you have to do is run this on a terminal:

xdg-mime query default application/x-rpm

and tell us the result. Post it here.

We have asked you do it five or six times. What are you waiting for, another month?

Yiks! You make things so difficult!

I'm delaying just because the beast is not close to me otherwise I did already posted! Stay tuned ;-) -- Marco Calistri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/11/2014 12:00, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

On 2014-11-29 14:16, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 28/11/2014 22:01, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

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and tell us the result. Post it here.

We have asked you do it five or six times. What are you waiting for, another month?

Yiks! You make things so difficult!

I'm delaying just because the beast is not close to me otherwise I did already posted!

Ok, then just say so as soon as you notice that we are asking you to do some thing. Don't let us get mad with impatience seeing you don't, and instead talk around the issue.

Just run that command, post the result here, then we can consider.

Or you do the "consideration" on your own, I showed already how to do it, by doing it in my machine. I showed you all the steps.

Till you post the results, any further talk is futile.

And please, tell us what openSUSE version you are using.

Here we go: LC_ALL=C LANG=C xdg-mime query default application/x-rpmgpk-install-local-file.desktop gpk-install-local-file.desktop :-O The kernel and openSUSE flavours are contained in my sig below. - -- Marco Calistri opensuse 13.2 (Harlequin) 64 bit - Kernel 3.17.2-5.g5caf82d-default Gnome 3.14.1 Intel® Core? i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlR56mkACgkQi4zJuA3lyFeZswCgmZ7cjLsaIOKMvXwh94DWXMdA 7y8AnidOalMNclFA6oWF99lmK17wuAyF =r7fR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Il 29/11/2014 12:00, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

On 2014-11-29 14:16, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 28/11/2014 22:01, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

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and tell us the result. Post it here.

We have asked you do it five or six times. What are you waiting for, another month?

Yiks! You make things so difficult!

I'm delaying just because the beast is not close to me otherwise I did already posted!

Ok, then just say so as soon as you notice that we are asking you to do some thing. Don't let us get mad with impatience seeing you don't, and instead talk around the issue.

Just run that command, post the result here, then we can consider.

Or you do the "consideration" on your own, I showed already how to do it, by doing it in my machine. I showed you all the steps.

Till you post the results, any further talk is futile.

And please, tell us what openSUSE version you are using.

Here we go: LC_ALL=C LANG=C xdg-mime query default application/x-rpm gpk-install-local-file.desktop :-O The kernel and openSUSE flavours are contained in my sig below. -- Marco Calistri opensuse 13.2 (Harlequin) 64 bit - Kernel 3.17.2-5.g5caf82d-default Gnome 3.14.1 Intel® Core? i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/11/2014 15:31, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

On 2014-11-29 18:07, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Here we go:

LC_ALL=C LANG=C xdg-mime query default application/x-rpm

gpk-install-local-file.desktop

Please, when posting commands do not allow lines to wrap. If you can not avoid it, tell us.

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The kernel and openSUSE flavours are contained in my sig below.

Ok, that's 13.2.

Ok, I have a 13.2 virtual system to compare to.

cer@oS-13-2:~> package-manager.desktop

That one is apparently the default on xfce.

cer@oS-13-2:~> locate package-manager.desktop /usr/share/applications/package-manager.desktop cer@oS-13-2:~>

And that's where the file is.

cer@oS-13-2:~> locate gpk-install-local-file.desktop /usr/share/applications/gpk-install-local-file.desktop cer@oS-13-2:~>

And that's where your desktop file is. Maybe it is the default on gnome, dunno.

Mine has this:

cer@oS-13-2:~> cat /usr/share/applications/package-manager.desktop [Desktop Entry] X-SuSE-translate=true Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Install/Remove Software Exec=xdg-su -c '/sbin/yast2 sw_single' Icon=package-manager-icon Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=System;PackageManager;X-SuSE-ControlCenter-System; NotShowIn=KDE;GNOME;MATE; StartupNotify=true

cer@oS-13-2:~>

which is quite different than on my 13.1 (and will probably fail)

And this is the other one, the one you have:

cer@oS-13-2:~> cat /usr/share/applications/gpk-install-local-file.desktop [Desktop Entry] X-SuSE-translate=true Name=Package Install Comment=Install selected packages on the system Categories=System; Exec=gpk-install-local-file %F Terminal=false Type=Application Icon=system-software-install StartupNotify=true NoDisplay=true MimeType=application/x-rpm;application/x-redhat-package-manager;application/x-deb;application/x-app-package;

cer@oS-13-2:~>

Well, now you have to find out what that "gpk-install-local-file" does, if it fails, or what. The ball is on your field now :-)

I tested and it works in the same way (no information during the install) as the one I used into the previous test: package-manager.desktop, which calls package-manager --install %F gpk-install-local-file -v Downloads/jre-7u55-linux-x64.rpm 18:29:38 GnomePackageKit Verbose debugging enabled (on console 1) marco@linux-turion64:~> rpm -qa|grep jre jre-1.7.0_55-fcs.x86_64 I guess if the GUI would provide some progress bar/install/additional information to the user, should be appreciable. Regards, - -- Marco Calistri opensuse 13.2 (Harlequin) 64 bit - Kernel 3.17.2-5.g5caf82d-default Gnome 3.14.1 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlR6LoEACgkQi4zJuA3lyFc5vQCeISxRtwa4M+pxHjM6+fHCxInh Tp8AoIri8OKC2lM8oXpvoDWi5xqaLKRf =hVUu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/11/2014 21:17, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

On 2014-11-29 21:37, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 29/11/2014 15:31, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

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I tested and it works in the same way (no information during the install) as the one I used into the previous test:

package-manager.desktop, which calls package-manager --install %F

gpk-install-local-file -v Downloads/jre-7u55-linux-x64.rpm

18:29:38 GnomePackageKit Verbose debugging enabled (on console 1)

You have to edit the /usr/share/applications/gpk-install-local-file.desktop file, set "Terminal=true" and "NoDisplay=true". Try.

Or change the "Exec=" to something that works better.

Thanks for hints, I will give it a try. Regards, - -- Marco Calistri opensuse 13.2 (Harlequin) 64 bit - Kernel 3.17.2-5.g5caf82d-default Gnome 3.14.1 Intel® Core? i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlR7HykACgkQi4zJuA3lyFd4ngCcDfCncj/1xz+cag3NIKerQU56 wyoAnRzAR7CKOnZ5WsLUCtXEXHvfKZWa =sG06 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2014-11-30 17:37, Marco Calistri wrote:

Adding "Terminal=true" simply keep a terminal window opened but nothing is getting wrote inside.

Ah, well, things get written there when there are debugging messages or fatal errors. GUI programs don't write there about normal progress.

"NoDisplay=true" was already set in my .desktop file.

Oh, sorry, I meant "false". You want it do display things. I don't know if it will display anything, though.

I think the GUI-CLI has not been well integrated yet and should be otimized to achieve a better iteration.

Well, it is a feature that few people use, and thus few people report about it. If you tested it and think it is done incorrectly, then /you/ have to report, in Bugzilla. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

* Marco Calistri [11-28-14 10:39]: [...]

Got it, my fail!

But where is the problem then?

Apparently only in front of *your* keyboard. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/28/2014 10:37 AM, Marco Calistri wrote:

Got it, my fail!

But where is the problem then?

Regards,

Undoubtedly in a configuration setting The best way yo determine such involves use of the command line, manual pages and occasional googling. To find out use and alternatives. -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Il 28/11/2014 14:16, Anton Aylward ha scritto:

On 11/28/2014 10:37 AM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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But where is the problem then?

Ultimately, your problem is that you are using a GUI to do a CLI job.

Its not that there aren't GUI package managers, there are, but that's not what you are using. You are using a file manager, and that is not a package manager.

File managers are limited in capability but make use of external programs that are involved when you click on files. The file manager makes use of your MIME settings to determine what external program is to be used.

In configuring same you may have the option to run this external command in a window. That is an xterm or similar. This is great if you want to see the output of the external program when it is a CLI.

So if you click on a HTML file and your MIME setting say to use Firefox, you will get a GUI.

If you click on a RPM file and your MIME settings say to run the CLI program 'rpm -Uvh' with the file name as a further parameter as ellanois suggests, then UNLESS you have set things to see this is a sub window/xterm you won't see any output.

Guess how I have my system configured?

I don't know how you have your system configured. I don't know what version you are running ... Etc etc etc.

"Context is Everything". I know my context. Unless you tell us yours we don't know what it is.

I don't know what you expect a file manager to run as a package manager.

May be I'm on the right route: I have to check MIME associations and discover how to customize it. Tks, -- Marco Calistri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Il 28/11/2014 16:20, Anton Aylward ha scritto:

On 11/28/2014 01:05 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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May be I'm on the right route: I have to check MIME associations and discover how to customize it.

Start with RTFM. Use 'apropos' if you don't know which one to read. Try with different keywords such as 'mime', 'rpm' and whatever else that output might suggest.

If all else fails: "Go Google".

The answer is out there and its not difficult to find.

My opinion is that not only is it easier to find with a command line but what you're about is easier with a command line.

Documentation for OpenSuSe is not so extended as per Ubuntu which count upon a stronger community (IMHO). Regards, -- Marco Calistri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2014-11-28 01:23, Marco Calistri wrote:

Il 27/11/2014 20:58, Patrick Shanahan ha scritto:

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* Marco Calistri <> [11-27-14 15:19]:

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Il 21/10/2014 11:15, Marco Calistri ha scritto:

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Il 17/10/2014 17:58, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

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On 2014-10-17 21:11, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 16/10/2014 10:26, Ken Schneider ha scritto:

I believe I have provided more details at the beginning of this thread.

The issue I face is attempting to install an RPM package simply by double clicking on it, or better attempting to download from a remote site and install (Oracle VirtualBox new versions is the specific case).

All the software manager I selected from "open-with" option in Nautilus have failed.

Well, it is the first time you say that you are clicking on Nautilus to "open" an rpm. As that is something I would never do, I can not help, nor am I interested in finding out why it doesn't work. But now that you have disclosed this crucial tidbit of information, others might. I /click/ inside YaST. When I manually download an rpm, I place it in a directory which I have previously told YaST to consider a local repository. Then I load YaST, go to repo view, click on the file, install it. Or, I would open a terminal, change to the download directory, and manually use zypper or rpm to install it. I believe that 13.2 YaST does not support the switches needed to do this from the CLI, or come to be, from a file browser. It calls zypper instead. Perhaps what you have to ask now is whether somebody knows how to configure *nautilus* to do "something" that results in installing an rpm when you click on it. The trick for getting good answers is to ask good questions. And not wait a month. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2014-11-28 06:51, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

В Fri, 28 Nov 2014 02:19:29 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <> пишет:

I briefly tested it (double clicking on RPM file) in 3.2/GNOME and it started installation and resolved and downloaded dependencies from remote repositories so it appears to do exactly what is requested already. Unfortunately, interface is very minimalistic - you do no get any real feedback what is happening, no progress bar, no information how many or which packages will be installed additionally and whether they are required or recommended. I suppose with large RPM file(s) and slow connection it may simply appear to hang.

See my other post. In my case, it calls yast, because I removed packagekit, which would be the default. And yast does pause for confirmation (after taking several minutes to refresh repos). However, in 13.2 yast can not install rpms from the command line, it calls zypper. Why this functionality was removed I can not imagine the reason. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

Il 28/11/2014 17:49, Andrei Borzenkov ha scritto:

В Fri, 28 Nov 2014 19:58:18 +0100 "Carlos E. R." пишет:

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On 2014-11-28 06:51, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

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В Fri, 28 Nov 2014 02:19:29 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <> пишет:

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I briefly tested it (double clicking on RPM file) in 3.2/GNOME and it started installation and resolved and downloaded dependencies from remote repositories so it appears to do exactly what is requested already. Unfortunately, interface is very minimalistic - you do no get any real feedback what is happening, no progress bar, no information how many or which packages will be installed additionally and whether they are required or recommended. I suppose with large RPM file(s) and slow connection it may simply appear to hang.

See my other post.

In my case, it calls yast, because I removed packagekit, which would be the default.

I did not change anything, so apparently it is calling GNOME software manager in my case.

Which app/script is called by software-manager and which by package-manager in openSUSE? Unluckily the stuff is a bit hidden in Gnome! Thanks. Regards, -- Marco Calistri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Il 28/11/2014 18:46, Marcus Meissner ha scritto:

On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 06:22:14PM -0200, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 28/11/2014 17:49, Andrei Borzenkov ha scritto:

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В Fri, 28 Nov 2014 19:58:18 +0100 "Carlos E. R." пишет:

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On 2014-11-28 06:51, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

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В Fri, 28 Nov 2014 02:19:29 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <> пишет:

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I briefly tested it (double clicking on RPM file) in 3.2/GNOME and it started installation and resolved and downloaded dependencies from remote repositories so it appears to do exactly what is requested already. Unfortunately, interface is very minimalistic - you do no get any real feedback what is happening, no progress bar, no information how many or which packages will be installed additionally and whether they are required or recommended. I suppose with large RPM file(s) and slow connection it may simply appear to hang.

See my other post.

In my case, it calls yast, because I removed packagekit, which would be the default.

I did not change anything, so apparently it is calling GNOME software manager in my case.

Which app/script is called by software-manager and which by package-manager in openSUSE?

Unluckily the stuff is a bit hidden in Gnome!

The UI tools (Gnome Software Center, Apper, Gnome Update Applet) call PackageKit, which uses libzypp.

Yast2 itself uses libzypp directly.

Ciao, Marcus

Thanks Marcus! -- Marco Calistri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/28/2014 03:22 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

Unluckily the stuff is a bit hidden in Gnome!

LOL! There are two obvious replies to that! The first is "that's why I don't use Gnome" The second is "unless you know where to look, *everything* is a bit hidden in Linux[1]/ [1] As opposed to MS-Windows where its not hidden at all, its all in the Registry and its obscure and probably binary coded. -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org