Hello, I just put some points to the agenda of the http://en.opensuse.org/2006-03-07-status-meeting I also checked the old meeting minutes for open action items. Here's what seems to be still open (I added some comments in "[...]"): http://en.opensuse.org/2006-01-24-status-meeting Mailinglists: Action Item skh, henne: [on hold till after 10.1 launch] - Prepare and announcement for list migration to the internal SUSE lists. - risk assesment for the internal packagers list. Action Item adrian: - check again with IS&T about searchable archives. [nearly running] FOSDEM: Action Item cthiel, pascal: - evaluate our FOSDEM participation after FOSDEM Build Service: Action Item everybody: - Discuss Trust/Rating system at FOSDEM http://en.opensuse.org/2006-02-07-status-meeting Mirrors Action Item henne: - Discuss mirror situation in opensuse@opensuse.org [ongoing/done?] - Involve ftpadmin@suse in the discussion Action Item schiele: [2006-02-21: Discuss this at FOSDEM] - discuss how we can make the drpmsync service better - help in the documentation process, extending http://en.opensuse.org/How_to_setup_a_drpmsync_server Action Item notlocalhorst: - upload final 10.1 torrents to the wiki [just for the records, can't be done yet obviously ;-) ] opensuse.org frontpage redesign Action Item michl: - discuss front page redesign on opensuse-wiki Forum discussion Action Item Viras: - take the discussion to the forum people in suselinuxsupport.de forum Action item skh: - talk to suse internal people to see about resources, etc if the forum idea goes ok Action Item StormX: - invite the other forum maintainers to the suselinuxsupport.de opensuse-forum category subfs discussion Action Item henne: - write SDB article about alternatives of subfs [ -> http://en.opensuse.org/2006-02-21-status-meeting Action item skh - Add to the task force page ] LinuxTag [not an action item, but open questions:] - status of community booth? - really no "commercial" Novell booth? SDB migration to wiki Action Item notlocalhorst: - write HOWTO style-guide [2006-02-21: ongoing] - communicate that we want to keep SDB clean of HOWTO like writings [2006-02-21: unclear] 10.1 status Action Item notlocalhorst: [+ garloff] - write documentation about the end user part of the KMP switch http://en.opensuse.org/2006-02-21-status-meeting Status 10.1 Action Item AJaeger - add info about all the small YaST tools to the libzypp Wiki page Action Item skh / AJaeger - explain "Feature Freeze" on Factory and write something about the development model to Factory Status mailinglists Action Item henne/Klaus - find out if we can help heiko with the postfix rewrites for the new list server [additionally, a short status update would be a good idea] Creation of a Community Task from Meetings Action Item skh - create the Tasks Wiki page Action Item darix - take care of Bugzilla->Wiki piping for that page Wiki old Action Item henne: - Rework download page to match the new media layout -> Action item skh - Put on the task page old Action item michl: - Discuss front page redesign on opensuse-wiki -> Action item shk - Put on the task page I hope I did not miss anything and also didn't list things that are done already ;-) - feel free to correct me. While doing this list, I thought about a wiki page to manage open "action items" which could be a good method to avoid that things are forgotten. Proposed handling: - create a page "open action items" - after every meeting, collect all action items on that page (yes, that duplicates that information. But on the other hand, it avoids that you have to scan all meeting minutes - it needs more time, trust me ;-) - when an item is done, simply remove it from the "open action items" page (or: mark them as done, remove them two weeks later after the next meeting) Do you think this would be a good idea? If yes, I will create the "Open Action Items" page and add the listed items there. Regards, Christian Boltz --
... Bücher sind ein grässliches Medium ... Ich schätze daran die leichte Portierbarkeit vom Sofa ins Bett. [Bjoern Hoehrmann und Peter Bieling in dciwam]
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Christian Boltz wrote:
Proposed handling: - create a page "open action items" - after every meeting, collect all action items on that page (yes, that duplicates that information. But on the other hand, it avoids that you have to scan all meeting minutes - it needs more time, trust me ;-) - when an item is done, simply remove it from the "open action items" page (or: mark them as done, remove them two weeks later after the next meeting)
Do you think this would be a good idea? If yes, I will create the "Open Action Items" page and add the listed items there.
I like that idea -- so, how about just going ahead? Actually I think we should start a "Meeting" namespace on the wiki to have a place for the minutes and have a special page on the "open action itmes" as well. (There is an open AI here for a brave volunteer: Create the "Meeting" namespace and move / consolidate the existing pages that fall into this namespace ;)) Regards Christoph
Christoph Thiel wrote:
Actually I think we should start a "Meeting" namespace on the wiki to have a place for the minutes and have a special page on the "open action itmes" as well. (There is an open AI here for a brave volunteer: Create the "Meeting" namespace and move / consolidate the existing pages that fall into this namespace ;))
there are very few namespace allowed in mediawiki (by construction), so why not use subpage feature that are allowed in our wiki? Meeting/<date>/info Meeting/<date>/minutes ... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, jdd wrote:
Actually I think we should start a "Meeting" namespace on the wiki to have a place for the minutes and have a special page on the "open action itmes" as well. (There is an open AI here for a brave volunteer: Create the "Meeting" namespace and move / consolidate the existing pages that fall into this namespace ;))
there are very few namespace allowed in mediawiki (by construction), so why not use subpage feature that are allowed in our wiki?
Meeting/<date>/info Meeting/<date>/minutes
Sure, that would work as well -- anyway, I'm not a wiki expert ;) Regards Christoph
On 2006-03-03 01:02:56 +0100, Christoph Thiel wrote:
Actually I think we should start a "Meeting" namespace on the wiki to have a place for the minutes and have a special page on the "open action itmes" as well. (There is an open AI here for a brave volunteer: Create the "Meeting" namespace and move / consolidate the existing pages that fall into this namespace ;))
use categories for stuff like that. darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org
Hi, On Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 23:29:51, Christian Boltz wrote:
I also checked the old meeting minutes for open action items. Here's what seems to be still open (I added some comments in "[...]"):
[...]
While doing this list, I thought about a wiki page to manage open "action items" which could be a good method to avoid that things are forgotten.
Im strongly against it. I would rather do that in bugzilla, we have a "product" openSUSE and we just need a "Action Item" component. A wiki page can be a nice output from a parsed bugzilla but for handling action items it sucks big time. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, Core Services "Rules change. The Game remains the same." - Omar (The Wire)
Hello, Am Freitag, 3. März 2006 11:20 schrieb Henne Vogelsang:
On Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 23:29:51, Christian Boltz wrote:
I also checked the old meeting minutes for open action items. [...] While doing this list, I thought about a wiki page to manage open "action items" which could be a good method to avoid that things are forgotten.
Im strongly against it. I would rather do that in bugzilla, we have a "product" openSUSE and we just need a "Action Item" component. A wiki page can be a nice output from a parsed bugzilla but for handling action items it sucks big time.
OK, this sounds even better. Now as you mention it: I already read this in the 2006-02-21 transscript - but it seems it got lost when the meeting minutes were written. I just added it ;-) When can we expect the bugzilla "Action Item" component available? ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Verstehen kann ich das Problem. Die meisten von uns hätten gerne brandaktuelle *und* felsenstabile Software. Der Unterschied zwischen Redmond und Pinguinhausen ist, daß erstere dir erzählen, daß man beides haben könne. Stimmt aber nicht. [Ratti in suse-linux]
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Christian Boltz wrote:
I also checked the old meeting minutes for open action items. [...] While doing this list, I thought about a wiki page to manage open "action items" which could be a good method to avoid that things are forgotten.
Im strongly against it. I would rather do that in bugzilla, we have a "product" openSUSE and we just need a "Action Item" component. A wiki page can be a nice output from a parsed bugzilla but for handling action items it sucks big time.
OK, this sounds even better. Now as you mention it: I already read this in the 2006-02-21 transscript - but it seems it got lost when the meeting minutes were written. I just added it ;-)
When can we expect the bugzilla "Action Item" component available? ;-)
As soon as AJ has the time to create it ;) BUT we will need some wiki enablement to render a bugzilla search in the wiki. Our bugzilla support cvs, rss and I guess xml export options -- now we just need someone to prepare a plugin to (dynamically) render a search in mediawiki. Any volunteers? Regards Christoph
Christoph Thiel
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Christian Boltz wrote:
I also checked the old meeting minutes for open action items. [...] While doing this list, I thought about a wiki page to manage open "action items" which could be a good method to avoid that things are forgotten.
Im strongly against it. I would rather do that in bugzilla, we have a "product" openSUSE and we just need a "Action Item" component. A wiki page can be a nice output from a parsed bugzilla but for handling action items it sucks big time.
OK, this sounds even better. Now as you mention it: I already read this in the 2006-02-21 transscript - but it seems it got lost when the meeting minutes were written. I just added it ;-)
When can we expect the bugzilla "Action Item" component available? ;-)
As soon as AJ has the time to create it ;) BUT we will need some wiki
Let's discuss this in the next meeting. I can create it but I'm surprised about this... Is there no better plan? Alternatively we could also have a collected AI wiki page...
enablement to render a bugzilla search in the wiki. Our bugzilla support cvs, rss and I guess xml export options -- now we just need someone to prepare a plugin to (dynamically) render a search in mediawiki. Any volunteers?
Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Hello All, I see this item: CDB/HCL - hardware database efforts --the_dude (?) didnt happen on 2006-02-07 - but it shouldn't be forgotten ;-) On: http://en.opensuse.org/2006-03-07-status-meeting Can someone please enlighten this? Is it related to a hardware database of beta testers? Regards, Joop. On Thu, March 2, 2006 11:29 pm, Christian Boltz wrote:
Hello,
I just put some points to the agenda of the http://en.opensuse.org/2006-03-07-status-meeting
I also checked the old meeting minutes for open action items. Here's what seems to be still open (I added some comments in "[...]"):
http://en.opensuse.org/2006-01-24-status-meeting
Mailinglists: Action Item skh, henne: [on hold till after 10.1 launch] - Prepare and announcement for list migration to the internal SUSE lists. - risk assesment for the internal packagers list. Action Item adrian: - check again with IS&T about searchable archives. [nearly running]
FOSDEM: Action Item cthiel, pascal: - evaluate our FOSDEM participation after FOSDEM
Build Service: Action Item everybody: - Discuss Trust/Rating system at FOSDEM
http://en.opensuse.org/2006-02-07-status-meeting
Mirrors Action Item henne: - Discuss mirror situation in opensuse@opensuse.org [ongoing/done?] - Involve ftpadmin@suse in the discussion Action Item schiele: [2006-02-21: Discuss this at FOSDEM] - discuss how we can make the drpmsync service better - help in the documentation process, extending http://en.opensuse.org/How_to_setup_a_drpmsync_server Action Item notlocalhorst: - upload final 10.1 torrents to the wiki [just for the records, can't be done yet obviously ;-) ]
opensuse.org frontpage redesign Action Item michl: - discuss front page redesign on opensuse-wiki
Forum discussion Action Item Viras: - take the discussion to the forum people in suselinuxsupport.de forum Action item skh: - talk to suse internal people to see about resources, etc if the forum idea goes ok Action Item StormX: - invite the other forum maintainers to the suselinuxsupport.de opensuse-forum category
subfs discussion Action Item henne: - write SDB article about alternatives of subfs [ -> http://en.opensuse.org/2006-02-21-status-meeting Action item skh - Add to the task force page ]
LinuxTag [not an action item, but open questions:] - status of community booth? - really no "commercial" Novell booth?
SDB migration to wiki Action Item notlocalhorst: - write HOWTO style-guide [2006-02-21: ongoing] - communicate that we want to keep SDB clean of HOWTO like writings [2006-02-21: unclear]
10.1 status Action Item notlocalhorst: [+ garloff] - write documentation about the end user part of the KMP switch
http://en.opensuse.org/2006-02-21-status-meeting
Status 10.1 Action Item AJaeger - add info about all the small YaST tools to the libzypp Wiki page Action Item skh / AJaeger - explain "Feature Freeze" on Factory and write something about the development model to Factory
Status mailinglists Action Item henne/Klaus - find out if we can help heiko with the postfix rewrites for the new list server [additionally, a short status update would be a good idea]
Creation of a Community Task from Meetings Action Item skh - create the Tasks Wiki page Action Item darix - take care of Bugzilla->Wiki piping for that page
Wiki old Action Item henne: - Rework download page to match the new media layout -> Action item skh - Put on the task page old Action item michl: - Discuss front page redesign on opensuse-wiki -> Action item shk - Put on the task page
I hope I did not miss anything and also didn't list things that are done already ;-) - feel free to correct me.
While doing this list, I thought about a wiki page to manage open "action items" which could be a good method to avoid that things are forgotten.
Proposed handling: - create a page "open action items" - after every meeting, collect all action items on that page (yes, that duplicates that information. But on the other hand, it avoids that you have to scan all meeting minutes - it needs more time, trust me ;-) - when an item is done, simply remove it from the "open action items" page (or: mark them as done, remove them two weeks later after the next meeting)
Do you think this would be a good idea? If yes, I will create the "Open Action Items" page and add the listed items there.
Regards,
Christian Boltz --
... Bücher sind ein grässliches Medium ... Ich schätze daran die leichte Portierbarkeit vom Sofa ins Bett. [Bjoern Hoehrmann und Peter Bieling in dciwam]
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Hello, (The official meeting announcement is still missing - CC'ing Henne ;-) ) Am Freitag, 3. März 2006 13:55 schrieb Joop Boonen:
I see this item: CDB/HCL - hardware database efforts --the_dude (?) didnt happen on 2006-02-07 - but it shouldn't be forgotten ;-)
On: http://en.opensuse.org/2006-03-07-status-meeting
Can someone please enlighten this? Is it related to a hardware database of beta testers?
Good question - I also know only the title. I also wonder that noone else has added topics for the meeting. Did I already add all interesting topics or what? ;-) [ Fullquote moved to /dev/null :-( ] Regards, Christian Boltz --
Hilft vielleicht noch etwas anderes? Eine genaue Fehlerbeschreibung. (Glaskugel oder Karten versagen bei technischen Problemen immer, daher packe ich die auch nicht aus). [Helga Fischer in suse-linux]
Hello, (CC to AdrianS is intentional because of the open Action Items ;-) Am Donnerstag, 2. März 2006 23:29 schrieb Christian Boltz:
I just wrote large parts of the Meeting minutes and hope for volunteers to write the minutes about the following sections/topics: - CDB/HCL - hardware database efforts - Cleanup old action items: FOSDEM / built service - additional wiki languages If you find an error in the parts I wrote, feel free to correct it ;-)
I also checked the old meeting minutes for open action items. Here's what seems to be still open (I added some comments in "[...]"):
(updating this section to help AdrianS with the Action Items page - everything you find here is still open or ongoing)
http://en.opensuse.org/2006-01-24-status-meeting
Mailinglists: Action Item skh, henne: [on hold till after 10.1 launch] - Prepare and announcement for list migration to the internal SUSE lists. - risk assesment for the internal packagers list. Action Item adrian: - check again with IS&T about searchable archives. [nearly running]
postponed after 10.1 release
Build Service: Action Item everybody: - Discuss Trust/Rating system at FOSDEM
was not mentioned at the meeting - open?
http://en.opensuse.org/2006-02-07-status-meeting
Mirrors Action Item henne: - Discuss mirror situation in opensuse@opensuse.org [ongoing/done?] - Involve ftpadmin@suse in the discussion
[drpmsync] new action item mls: put drpmsync to public svn
Action Item notlocalhorst: - upload final 10.1 torrents to the wiki [just for the records, can't be done yet obviously ;-) ]
obviously pending ;-)
opensuse.org frontpage redesign Action Item michl: - discuss front page redesign on opensuse-wiki
Forum discussion Action Item Viras: - take the discussion to the forum people in suselinuxsupport.de forum Action item skh: - talk to suse internal people to see about resources, etc if the forum idea goes ok Action Item StormX: - invite the other forum maintainers to the suselinuxsupport.de opensuse-forum category
subfs discussion Action Item henne: - write SDB article about alternatives of subfs [ -> http://en.opensuse.org/2006-02-21-status-meeting Action item skh - Add to the task force page ]
Those are still open.
LinuxTag [not an action item, but open questions:] - status of community booth?
Christoph? Any news on that?
- really no "commercial" Novell booth?
SDB migration to wiki Action Item notlocalhorst: - write HOWTO style-guide [2006-02-21: ongoing] - communicate that we want to keep SDB clean of HOWTO like writings [2006-02-21: unclear]
10.1 status Action Item notlocalhorst: [+ garloff] - write documentation about the end user part of the KMP switch
http://en.opensuse.org/2006-02-21-status-meeting
Status 10.1 Action Item AJaeger - add info about all the small YaST tools to the libzypp Wiki page
Status mailinglists Action Item henne/Klaus - find out if we can help heiko with the postfix rewrites for the new list server [additionally, a short status update would be a good idea]
Creation of a Community Task from Meetings Action Item skh - create the Tasks Wiki page
all open or ongoing
Action Item darix - take care of Bugzilla->Wiki piping for that page
... if we really need this pipe ...
Wiki old Action Item henne: - Rework download page to match the new media layout -> Action item skh - Put on the task page old Action item michl: - Discuss front page redesign on opensuse-wiki -> Action item shk - Put on the task page
no tasks page yet - therefore open :-( See http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Status_Meeting_2006-03-07 for new action items. Regards, Christian Boltz -- Wenn man vertrauenswürdige Daten per PF schützt solltest Du auch noch ein '$' an den Freigabenamen anhängen, das schützt auch ganz gewaltig. Zudem solltest Du die Vorhänge zuziehen, damit niemand einbricht. Eine PF als Schutz einzusetzen ist wie Windows als Betriebssystem zu missbrauchen. Es gibt Leute, die glauben, es funktioniert. [Bodo Eggert in dasr]
Hello, I just entered several open Action Items to bugzilla. This mail lists the remaining Action Items - I'd like to see some feedback on them because I'm not sure if they are still open. Some items are already listed on http://en.opensuse.org/Tasks - but I'm not sure if they should (also?) be listed in bugzilla. (Personally, I think bugzilla is better because of mail notification, status overview etc.) I'll also explain how to query bugzilla for Action Items and what you should care for when entering Action Items in bugzilla - scroll down for this ;-) ### open/unclear Action Items ### Please note that this list only contains items that are _not_ listed in bugzilla yet. Am Sonntag, 12. März 2006 20:17 schrieb Christian Boltz:
Am Donnerstag, 2. März 2006 23:29 schrieb Christian Boltz:
http://en.opensuse.org/2006-02-07-status-meeting
opensuse.org frontpage redesign Action Item michl: - discuss front page redesign on opensuse-wiki
listed on http://en.opensuse.org/Tasks http://en.opensuse.org/2006-02-21-status-meeting [tasks page]
Action Item darix - take care of Bugzilla->Wiki piping for that page
... if we really need this pipe ...
Is a link OK for now?
Wiki old Action Item henne: - Rework download page to match the new media layout -> Action item skh - Put on the task page
Listed on Tasks page.
old Action item michl: - Discuss front page redesign on opensuse-wiki -> Action item shk - Put on the task page
Frontpage redesign listed on Tasks page, discussion in opensuse-wiki started, but seems to "sleep". http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Status_Meeting_2006-03-07 Action item skh - ask the bugzilla screening team to open SLES/novellonly bugs if possible -> related to bug 155846 - additional AI bug needed? - ask the bugzilla team if we can make the product bugzilla open for everyone ### Action Items in Bugzilla ### ### Handling of Action Items in Bugzilla (at least this is my proposal) - Action Items should always be prefixed by "[AI]" in the summary - otherwise it will be difficult to find them if they are moved to another component for whatever reason. - when a Action Item is done, mark it as FIXED - when you reported back in the next meeting, mark it as CLOSED Can everybody agree on this proposal? ### Query for Action Items in Bugzilla You can query the list of Action Items at (sorry, long link) https://bugzilla.novell.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=SUSE+Linux&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=anywords&keywords=&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailinfoprovider2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emaillongdesc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=component&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=Action+Items&field0-0-1=short_desc&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=%5BAI%5D this means: - Category "SUSE Linux" (including SUSE Linux X.Y and openSUSE.org) - component "Action Items" OR summary contains "[AI]" - any Status/Resolution Hint: This is a good candidate for a saved search ;-) ### Wiki / Bugzilla linking ### It would be a good idea to link the Action Items in the Meeting Minutes to their bug numbers - but I'm (finally) going to sleep now. Any volunteers? ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz --
Was haltet ihr von Lindows?? ABSTAND :-) [> Glenn Charpantier und Axel Lindlau in suse-linux]
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Christian Boltz wrote:
### open/unclear Action Items ###
Please note that this list only contains items that are _not_ listed in bugzilla yet.
Am Sonntag, 12. März 2006 20:17 schrieb Christian Boltz:
Am Donnerstag, 2. März 2006 23:29 schrieb Christian Boltz:
http://en.opensuse.org/2006-02-07-status-meeting
opensuse.org frontpage redesign Action Item michl: - discuss front page redesign on opensuse-wiki
listed on http://en.opensuse.org/Tasks
Still open, needs discussion / action!
http://en.opensuse.org/2006-02-21-status-meeting
[tasks page]
Action Item darix - take care of Bugzilla->Wiki piping for that page
... if we really need this pipe ...
Is a link OK for now?
Yes, it is.
Wiki old Action Item henne: - Rework download page to match the new media layout -> Action item skh - Put on the task page
Listed on Tasks page.
old Action item michl: - Discuss front page redesign on opensuse-wiki -> Action item shk - Put on the task page
Frontpage redesign listed on Tasks page, discussion in opensuse-wiki started, but seems to "sleep".
Needs to be retriggered, optimally after 10.1 is out ;)
http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Status_Meeting_2006-03-07
Action item skh - ask the bugzilla screening team to open SLES/novellonly bugs if possible -> related to bug 155846 - additional AI bug needed? - ask the bugzilla team if we can make the product bugzilla open for everyone
We already have a Bugzilla component with the openSUSE "product" in Bugzilla, isn't this sufficient?
### Action Items in Bugzilla ###
### Handling of Action Items in Bugzilla (at least this is my proposal)
- Action Items should always be prefixed by "[AI]" in the summary - otherwise it will be difficult to find them if they are moved to another component for whatever reason. - when a Action Item is done, mark it as FIXED - when you reported back in the next meeting, mark it as CLOSED
Can everybody agree on this proposal?
Please use the Action Item component of the openSUSE "product" for action items. Regards Christoph
Hallo Leute, Am Montag, 10. April 2006 10:18 schrieb Christoph Thiel:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Christian Boltz wrote: [...]
opensuse.org frontpage redesign Action Item michl: - discuss front page redesign on opensuse-wiki
listed on http://en.opensuse.org/Tasks
Still open, needs discussion / action!
I know - the question is: Should items listed on the Tasks page also be listed as AI in bugzilla? IMHO yes because tracking changes in the wiki can be difficult. But Henne doesn't seem to think so, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=164756 (Maybe we could use REMIND status for those?)
http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Status_Meeting_2006-03-07
Action item skh - ask the bugzilla screening team to open SLES/novellonly bugs if possible -> related to bug 155846 - additional AI bug needed? - ask the bugzilla team if we can make the product bugzilla open for everyone
We already have a Bugzilla component with the openSUSE "product" in Bugzilla, isn't this sufficient?
In theory, yes. In practise, the bugzilla team moves all bugzilla bugs to _Product_ Bugzilla which also causes the novellonly flag to be set :-( (You remember the "permission denied" discussion for SLES bugs? It's basically the same with bugzilla bugs.)
### Action Items in Bugzilla ###
### Handling of Action Items in Bugzilla (at least this is my proposal)
- Action Items should always be prefixed by "[AI]" in the summary - otherwise it will be difficult to find them if they are moved to another component for whatever reason. - when a Action Item is done, mark it as FIXED - when you reported back in the next meeting, mark it as CLOSED
Can everybody agree on this proposal?
Please use the Action Item component of the openSUSE "product" for action items.
Yes, that's the theory. In practise, bugs tend to change product and/or component, which has a good reason in most cases. The "[AI]" tag in the summary will allow to track AIs that have been moved. Regards, Christian Boltz -- [Fontsammlung] Das verursacht gewisse Probleme im Dateisystem. [...] Wenn man bei "find" nicht aufpasst, fliegt ein kleiner Festplatten- Helikopter zur Tür raus... [Ratti in suse-linux]
Hi, On Saturday, April 15, 2006 at 02:34:02, Christian Boltz wrote:
Am Montag, 10. April 2006 10:18 schrieb Christoph Thiel:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Christian Boltz wrote: [...]
opensuse.org frontpage redesign Action Item michl: - discuss front page redesign on opensuse-wiki
listed on http://en.opensuse.org/Tasks
Still open, needs discussion / action!
I know - the question is: Should items listed on the Tasks page also be listed as AI in bugzilla?
IMHO yes because tracking changes in the wiki can be difficult. But Henne doesn't seem to think so, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=164756
Action Items are things a person commited to do. So you can make a bugzilla entry and track the status there. Things on the tasks page dont have anyone caring for them. So it does not makes sense to add these as Action Items to bugzila. For instance 164756. You assigned that to me. But i said i cant do it in time. So whats the point in assigning that AI to me? Writing that SDB article belongs on the Tasks page so people that have the time can pick it up from there and do it. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de "To die. In the rain. Alone." Ernest Hemingway
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 02:12:22AM +0200, Christian Boltz wrote:
Better use tinyurl then, or any other service that does this. ;-) http://tinyurl.com/m2ook You can add tinyurl to your toolbar, or use http://www.roundtwo.com/product/tinyurl in firefox to be able to rightclick to make a tinyurl link. Very easy to use and a 'must have' if you often copy-paste long URL's. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau
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