[opensuse] USB times out cant see what's on drives
I'm using Opensuse 11.2 with the latest updates. Linux 2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop x86_64 kernel on a Dell Inspiron 1545 and have all the KDE4 eye candy turned off. When I insert a USB drive, either flash or hard drive, I get a window eventually asking me to choose what to do. I open the drive in file manager, click on a folder and 6 seconds after the contents are displayed the folder goes blank. Neither Dolphin nor Konqueror can see the drives without replugging. Same failure every time. My Computer indicates the drives are attached as /dev/sdc1 but cannot view contents. I googled usb timeout with no luck finding the answer. lsusb shows the following after the disappearance: Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:0158 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Storage Device Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0ace:1215 ZyDAS WLA-54L 802.11bg (zd1211rw) Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1005:b113 Apacer Technology, Inc. Handy Steno 2.0/HT203 Bus 002 Device 005: ID 067b:2507 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2507 Hi-speed USB to IDE bridge controller Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub How do I make the usb drives useable again? They worked fine on 11.0 and early on when I installed 11.2. Thanks, Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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I'm using Opensuse 11.2 with the latest updates. Linux 2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop x86_64 kernel on a Dell Inspiron 1545 and have all the KDE4 eye candy turned off.
When I insert a USB drive, either flash or hard drive, I get a window eventually asking me to choose what to do. I open the drive in file manager, click on a folder and 6 seconds after the contents are displayed the folder goes blank. Neither Dolphin nor Konqueror can see the drives without replugging. Same failure every time. My Computer indicates the drives are attached as /dev/sdc1 but cannot view contents.
Do you have any other usb devices plugged in at the time? I have a Dell C521 and it worked fine on Win but when I loaded linux it got very flakey on the usb even with just the kb and mouse,I had to go to a powered hub to eliminate the problem. You may want to try it and see if it helps, never found a good reason for this and it would not be a good solution for a laptop. Mike -- 2.6.27.39-0.2-default GNU/Linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 03 January 2010 13:02:39 ka1ifq wrote:
Do you have any other usb devices plugged in at the time?
Just the wireless adapter. Everything worked fine until a few weeks ago. One of my flash drives did this number but I ignored it for some reason. I tried a hard drive I had stored stuff to from this machine a couple of months ago, Now I cant get anythign off it cause of the 6 second timeout . I figure the repeatability is telling me something but I'm not doing to well on the troubleshooting. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2010-01-03 at 10:51 -0600, Richard Atcheson wrote:
I'm using Opensuse 11.2 with the latest updates. Linux 2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop x86_64 kernel on a Dell Inspiron 1545 and have all the KDE4 eye candy turned off.
When I insert a USB drive, either flash or hard drive, I get a window eventually asking me to choose what to do. I open the drive in file manager, click on a folder and 6 seconds after the contents are displayed the folder goes blank. Neither Dolphin nor Konqueror can see the drives without replugging. Same failure every time. My Computer indicates the drives are attached as /dev/sdc1 but cannot view contents.
Open a terminal and type "tailf /var/log/messages"; then attach the disk, and when it fails, post the messages that were written to the terminal. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAktBkm4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Xq+gCeIGSuCR2/uT/SEpueZkb9xAuW Uw4An2qWV2hGj9jQl+sA8vb4cPnnW0D8 =xEis -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2010-01-03 at 10:51 -0600, Richard Atcheson wrote:
I'm using Opensuse 11.2 with the latest updates. Linux 2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop x86_64 kernel on a Dell Inspiron 1545 and have all the KDE4 eye candy turned off.
When I insert a USB drive, either flash or hard drive, I get a window eventually asking me to choose what to do. I open the drive in file manager, click on a folder and 6 seconds after the contents are displayed the folder goes blank. Neither Dolphin nor Konqueror can see the drives without replugging. Same failure every time. My Computer indicates the drives are attached as /dev/sdc1 but cannot view contents.
Open a terminal and type "tailf /var/log/messages"; then attach the disk, and when it fails, post the messages that were written to the terminal.
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
Richard, With 11.2 x86_64, I experienced exactly the problems you describe. I would attach via usb either a second hard disk or a usb memory stick and it would work fine for a little while. Then without warning or reason, the device would simply disconnect without warning and crash. The curious part of the problem is that whatever was happening was causing corruption in the usb device when the disconnect occurred that would then have to be fixed with fsck. I was also suffering the same corruptions when the 11.2 box would connect via ssh or sftp to remote filesystems. With my 11.2 i586 box, I experienced none of this from the 32-bit machine. I never got any answers, so with this issue, I still don't know what was happening. Now, I have dropped back to 11.0 for now until I can find another laptop to try it on. Let me know if you make any breakthroughs, Thanks -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 04 January 2010 12:06:44 am David C. Rankin wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2010-01-03 at 10:51 -0600, Richard Atcheson wrote:
I'm using Opensuse 11.2 with the latest updates. Linux 2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop x86_64 kernel on a Dell Inspiron 1545 and have all the KDE4 eye candy turned off.
When I insert a USB drive, either flash or hard drive, I get a window eventually asking me to choose what to do. I open the drive in file manager, click on a folder and 6 seconds after the contents are displayed the folder goes blank. Neither Dolphin nor Konqueror can see the drives without replugging. Same failure every time. My Computer indicates the drives are attached as /dev/sdc1 but cannot view contents.
Open a terminal and type "tailf /var/log/messages"; then attach the disk, and when it fails, post the messages that were written to the terminal.
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
Richard,
With 11.2 x86_64, I experienced exactly the problems you describe. I would attach via usb either a second hard disk or a usb memory stick and it would work fine for a little while. Then without warning or reason, the device would simply disconnect without warning and crash. The curious part of the problem is that whatever was happening was causing corruption in the usb device when the disconnect occurred that would then have to be fixed with fsck. I was also suffering the same corruptions when the 11.2 box would connect via ssh or sftp to remote filesystems. With my 11.2 i586 box, I experienced none of this from the 32-bit machine.
I never got any answers, so with this issue, I still don't know what was happening. Now, I have dropped back to 11.0 for now until I can find another laptop to try it on. Let me know if you make any breakthroughs, Thanks
It is working well on a Dell studio 1745 using the same kernel. I frequently use usb device, either flash or disk, to transfer files to other computers and have not had anything similar happen. Have you tried turning Dbus off and mounting manually? (service dbus stop) -- Thanks, Tom Taylor linxt@comcast.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Monday 04 January 2010 12:06:44 am David C. Rankin wrote:
Have you tried turning Dbus off and mounting manually? (service dbus stop)
or, rcdbus restart -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 04 January 2010 17:31:56 Thomas Taylor wrote:
It is working well on a Dell studio 1745 using the same kernel. I frequently use usb device, either flash or disk, to transfer files to other computers and have not had anything similar happen.
Have you tried turning Dbus off and mounting manually? (service dbus stop)
Ok Tom and Patrick here's the results of stopping the dbus and mounting manually. Using rcdbus restart, it shutsdown and restarts dbus, of course. Then I mount /dev/sdd1 and it works ok. If I remove the hard drive and try to use a flash drive nothing happens. If I restart the dbus then the flash drive will be available to mount manually. A strange thing is each time a device is unmounted and remounted the device designator changes. e.g., originally the hd was /dev/sda1, then it became sdb1, then sdc1 and sdd1 and it's the only device on the usb line at the moment. I apologize for the delayed response, for the past few days I've been fighting a fuel problem on my motorhome and it's eating my lunch. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Monday 04 January 2010 17:31:56 Thomas Taylor wrote:
It is working well on a Dell studio 1745 using the same kernel. I frequently use usb device, either flash or disk, to transfer files to other computers and have not had anything similar happen.
Have you tried turning Dbus off and mounting manually? (service dbus stop) Ok Tom and Patrick here's the results of stopping the dbus and mounting manually.
Using rcdbus restart, it shutsdown and restarts dbus, of course. Then I mount /dev/sdd1 and it works ok. If I remove the hard drive and try to use a flash drive nothing happens. If I restart the dbus then the flash drive will be available to mount manually. A strange thing is each time a device is unmounted and remounted the device designator changes. e.g., originally the hd was /dev/sda1, then it became sdb1, then sdc1 and sdd1 and it's the only device on the usb line at the moment.
I apologize for the delayed response, for the past few days I've been fighting a fuel problem on my motorhome and it's eating my lunch.
Richard
I saw this as well. My understanding is that on each subsequent "plug-in" for lack of better words, dbus simply treats it as a new device and increments the letter by one. It shouldn't -- point taken, but what this points to is that the system is NOT recognizing that the prior device-instance has been removed. Something isn't working quite right... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 04 January 2010 02:06:44 David C. Rankin wrote:
I never got any answers, so with this issue, I still don't know
what
was happening. Now, I have dropped back to 11.0 for now until I can find another laptop to try it on. Let me know if you make any breakthroughs, Thanks
David, you'll be the second one to know. How cold is it "up North?" I'm near Port Lavaca for a few days and IT'S COLD! I'm looking for some errant global warming this week. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Open a terminal and type "tailf /var/log/messages"; then attach
On Monday 04 January 2010 01:01:59 Carlos E. R. wrote: the disk,
and when it fails, post the messages that were written to the terminal.
Carlos, here's the output.: diggerodell:~ # tailf /var/log/messages Jan 4 20:51:57 diggerodell dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.6 -- renewal in 1512 seconds. Jan 4 21:06:24 diggerodell rsyslogd: -- MARK -- Jan 4 21:17:09 diggerodell dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on wlan0 to 192.168.1.254 port 67 Jan 4 21:17:09 diggerodell dhclient: DHCPACK from 192.168.1.254 Jan 4 21:17:09 diggerodell dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.6 -- renewal in 1505 seconds. Jan 4 21:42:14 diggerodell dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on wlan0 to 192.168.1.254 port 67 Jan 4 21:42:14 diggerodell dhclient: DHCPACK from 192.168.1.254 Jan 4 21:42:14 diggerodell dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.6 -- renewal in 1461 seconds. Jan 4 21:42:52 diggerodell gnome-keyring-ask: could not grab keyboard: 3 Jan 4 21:45:40 diggerodell su: (to root) diggerodell on /dev/pts/0 Jan 4 21:46:56 diggerodell kernel: [129662.214085] usb 2-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 10 Jan 4 21:46:57 diggerodell kernel: [129662.329924] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=067b, idProduct=2507 Jan 4 21:46:57 diggerodell kernel: [129662.329939] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 Jan 4 21:46:57 diggerodell kernel: [129662.329950] usb 2-1: Product: Mass Storage Device Jan 4 21:46:57 diggerodell kernel: [129662.329957] usb 2-1: Manufacturer: Prolific Technology Inc. Jan 4 21:46:57 diggerodell kernel: [129662.330166] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Jan 4 21:46:57 diggerodell kernel: [129662.356137] scsi11 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Jan 4 21:46:57 diggerodell kernel: [129662.397171] usb- storage: device found at 10 Jan 4 21:46:57 diggerodell kernel: [129662.397174] usb- storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Jan 4 21:46:58 diggerodell kernel: [129663.396979] scsi 11:0:0:0: Direct-Access IC25N020 ATCS04-0 CA2O PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 Jan 4 21:46:58 diggerodell kernel: [129663.397366] sd 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 Jan 4 21:46:58 diggerodell kernel: [129663.398327] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Adjusting the sector count from its reported value: 39070081 Jan 4 21:46:58 diggerodell kernel: [129663.398349] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] 39070080 512-byte logical blocks: (20.0 GB/18.6 GiB) Jan 4 21:46:58 diggerodell kernel: [129663.407541] usb- storage: device scan complete Jan 4 21:46:58 diggerodell kernel: [129663.407580] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off Jan 4 21:46:58 diggerodell kernel: [129663.407590] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 Jan 4 21:46:58 diggerodell kernel: [129663.407593] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through Jan 4 21:46:58 diggerodell kernel: [129663.408924] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Adjusting the sector count from its reported value: 39070081 Jan 4 21:46:58 diggerodell kernel: [129663.409813] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through Jan 4 21:46:58 diggerodell kernel: [129663.409826] sdc: sdc1 Jan 4 21:46:58 diggerodell kernel: [129663.443364] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Adjusting the sector count from its reported value: 39070081 Jan 4 21:46:58 diggerodell kernel: [129663.444931] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through Jan 4 21:46:58 diggerodell kernel: [129663.444945] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk Jan 4 21:47:09 diggerodell hald: mounted /dev/sdc1 on behalf of uid 1000 Jan 4 21:47:20 diggerodell hald: unmounted /dev/sdc1 from '/media/disk' on behalf of uid 1000 Jan 4 21:47:20 diggerodell gnome-keyring-daemon[3849]: removing removable location: /media/disk Jan 4 21:47:20 diggerodell gnome-keyring-daemon[3849]: no volume registered at: /media/disk The failure still happens about 6 seconds after Dolphin window comes up. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2010-01-04 at 21:50 -0600, Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Monday 04 January 2010 01:01:59 Carlos E. R. wrote:
Open a terminal and type "tailf /var/log/messages"; then attach the disk, and when it fails, post the messages that were written to the terminal.
Carlos, here's the output.:
diggerodell:~ # tailf /var/log/messages
...
Jan 4 21:47:09 diggerodell hald: mounted /dev/sdc1 on behalf of uid 1000 Jan 4 21:47:20 diggerodell hald: unmounted /dev/sdc1 from '/media/disk' on behalf of uid 1000 Jan 4 21:47:20 diggerodell gnome-keyring-daemon[3849]: removing removable location: /media/disk Jan 4 21:47:20 diggerodell gnome-keyring-daemon[3849]: no volume registered at: /media/disk
The failure still happens about 6 seconds after Dolphin window comes up.
I think, seeing the above, that as far as the system is concerned, it is the user who does the umount. Or software used by the user. I mean, it is not the kernel or threabouts, there is no error message listed. You could mount it manually, or try use gnome instead of kde. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAktDUREACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WQmgCfXYCKpmr1cCbngIto6/jjaYOt w2IAmwX1y5s63ZDPisH7IxPvXjdKUCNd =OZ7x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 05 January 2010 15:47:43 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Monday, 2010-01-04 at 21:50 -0600, Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Monday 04 January 2010 01:01:59 Carlos E. R. wrote:
Open a terminal and type "tailf /var/log/messages"; then attach the disk, and when it fails, post the messages that were written to the terminal.
Carlos, here's the output.:
diggerodell:~ # tailf /var/log/messages
...
Jan 4 21:47:09 diggerodell hald: mounted /dev/sdc1 on behalf of uid 1000 Jan 4 21:47:20 diggerodell hald: unmounted /dev/sdc1 from '/media/disk' on behalf of uid 1000 Jan 4 21:47:20 diggerodell gnome-keyring-daemon[3849]: removing removable location: /media/disk Jan 4 21:47:20 diggerodell gnome-keyring-daemon[3849]: no volume registered at: /media/disk
The failure still happens about 6 seconds after Dolphin window comes up.
I think, seeing the above, that as far as the system is concerned, it is the user who does the umount. Or software used by the user. I mean, it is not the kernel or threabouts, there is no error message listed.
You could mount it manually, or try use gnome instead of kde.
Agreed, or you could try quitting applications which might be telling hal to umount the device. One candidate would be the automount module in KDE 4.4 - look at Configure Desktop->Advanced->Service Manager->Startup Services->Removable Device Automounter and Stop it. There were a couple of KDE 4.3 automounter applets on kde-look.org which were all pretty flaky, if you installed one of these, try without it. Are there any KDE 3 apps running? Perhaps one of those started the KDE 3 automounter and it is competing with the above desktop automounters? Also check if nautilus is running, AFAIK it would handle this under GNOME and is sometimes started by using GNOME apps. And why is gnome-keyring-daemon running as root and logging to /var/log/messages? Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Also check if nautilus is running, AFAIK it would handle this under GNOME and is sometimes started by using GNOME apps.
That would explain the next message.
And why is gnome-keyring-daemon running as root and logging to /var/log/messages?
As root? No, I think it is the user. Jan 4 21:47:20 diggerodell gnome-keyring-daemon[3849]: removing removable location: /media/disk Jan 4 21:47:20 diggerodell gnome-keyring-daemon[3849]: no volume registered at: /media/disk - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAktDYoQACgkQtTMYHG2NR9U6FQCcDNnUoE7JIWKDD6veu2fhl3i6 5kIAn2rFS8bCWbKmBuaaj6JHZsrhyDuG =Hzqt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 05 January 2010 10:02:05 Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On Tuesday, 2010-01-05 at 16:13 +0100, Will Stephenson wrote:
Also check if nautilus is running, AFAIK it would handle this under GNOME and is sometimes started by using GNOME apps.
The problem was solved by removing every kde3 program and replacing it with whatever kde4 worked. Only problem was on reboot things were really screwed up. An update install got things sorted out and now I can go back to playing. Thanks for the tips, especially about the kde3 stuff. I had kde3 base as well as kde4 base installed among others. I made the changes this afternoon and it took til now, midnite, to get it back to useable. Makes a guy really love kde4. Richard.
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On Tuesday 05 January 2010 09:13:39 Will Stephenson wrote:
You could mount it manually, or try use gnome instead of kde.
I fired up gnome and the insertion of the usb hd works normally. When I went back to kde the gnome keyring daemon came back up. Killing it has no effect on using the external hd. One thing I did notice is when the drive is detected and I'm given the choice to look at it with File Manager, I can delay looking at the drive as much as several minutes, then open the file manager and 6 seconds later it goes away. Works like that everytime.
Agreed, or you could try quitting applications which might be telling hal to umount the device.
One candidate would be the automount module in KDE 4.4 - look at Configure Desktop->Advanced->Service Manager->Startup Services->Removable Device Automounter and Stop it.
I looked for the Removable Device Automounter and it's not there. Perhaps I should look for one to install??
There were a couple of KDE 4.3 automounter applets on kde-look.org which were all pretty flaky, if you installed one of these, try without it. Are there any KDE 3 apps running? Perhaps one of those started the KDE 3 automounter and it is competing with the above desktop automounters?
The only automounter I can find is autofs. Could that be the problem? I noticed that gnome has its own automounter. Nope, no KDE3 apps running.
Also check if nautilus is running, AFAIK it would handle this under GNOME and is sometimes started by using GNOME apps.
Nautilus is not running
And why is gnome-keyring-daemon running as root and logging to /var/log/messages?
Must be a holdover from booting into Gnome. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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