RE: [SLE] SUSE 10.2 Ditching ReiserFS as its' default FS?
-----Original Message----- From: Carlos E. R. [mailto:robin.listas@telefonica.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:18 AM To: SLE Subject: Re: [SLE] SUSE 10.2 Ditching ReiserFS as its' default FS?
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The Tuesday 2006-10-10 at 01:53 -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/suse-102-ditching-reiserfs-as-it- default-fs/
Old news. Why don't you read the original instead?
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-09/msg00542.html
;-)
Regardless of the source, it's still exciting (and very excellent) news. The scalability issues that are mentioned may not mean much for a desktop user, but for large-scale use it's...oy.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-10-10 at 08:48 -0400, Marlier, Ian wrote:
Regardless of the source, it's still exciting (and very excellent) news. The scalability issues that are mentioned may not mean much for a desktop user, but for large-scale use it's...oy.
Most of the discussion is way off track. The issue is not which is the best filesystem in the Linux world, neither it is about ditching reiserfs and being forced to use another one. Any one wanting to will be able to use the same filesystems we are able to use today. The issue is simply which filesystem will Yast offer by default for the user, so that Joe Click-Enter can still press "enter" and be done. And just for the record, I don't think XFS would be a good choice, contrary to the discussion there. It makes use of RAM a lot, so that you must use a UPS to avoid disaster on power failure - and most of Joe User do not. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFK6yktTMYHG2NR9URAvtVAJ9ZgEVwWHaiCRWyeWD/3S+eKiw9qACfTj9B YBa/4JUvMNzgJ/ka/2EIFvc= =UJe/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 16:22, Carlos E. R. wrote:
And just for the record, I don't think XFS would be a good choice, contrary to the discussion there. It makes use of RAM a lot, so that you must use a UPS to avoid disaster on power failure - and most of Joe User do not.
Additionally, grub won't always work when /boot is on an XFS partition. Don't ask me why or what, but it has some known problems when /boot is XFS. -- ----- stephan@s11n.net http://s11n.net "...pleasure is a grace and is not obedient to the commands of the will." -- Alan W. Watts
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-10-10 at 16:28 +0200, stephan beal wrote:
Additionally, grub won't always work when /boot is on an XFS partition. Don't ask me why or what, but it has some known problems when /boot is XFS.
You mean as a separate partition, a small 20 MiB, say? I always use ext2 for that, no need for a journal there. A small xfs partition doesn't make sense, imo, neither does reiser (it has a minimun size of 100MiB, by the way). If you mean /boot as a directory of /, I don't know. I use ext3 for my root partition, then xfs or reiser for data. I like all of them, actually, but my fancy is for reiser, although I have been bitten. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFK7ZxtTMYHG2NR9URAmX6AJ9tOBu9VgC39Qh4Z92b5HjKbRqIUQCdH3/I k2LeFtamuGM4JqsmGfpf1eI= =dlSX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Tuesday 2006-10-10 at 16:28 +0200, stephan beal wrote:
Additionally, grub won't always work when /boot is on an XFS partition. Don't ask me why or what, but it has some known problems when /boot is XFS.
You mean as a separate partition, a small 20 MiB, say? I always use ext2 for that, no need for a journal there. A small xfs partition doesn't make sense, imo, neither does reiser (it has a minimun size of 100MiB, by the way).
It may not make much sense wrt journaling in itself, but we use JFS on everything, including small /boot-partitions. There's not much reason why we shouldn't, and it means only having to deal with one filesystem. /Per Jessen, Zürich
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-10-10 at 17:08 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
It may not make much sense wrt journaling in itself, but we use JFS on everything, including small /boot-partitions. There's not much reason why we shouldn't, and it means only having to deal with one filesystem.
You can not create a 20 MiB reiserfs partition, for instance. I don't know if there is a lower limit for ext3, but even if not, you loose some kilobytes on the journal. I say a journal does not make sense because doing an fsck run on such a small partition is fast, anyway, and it is not a partition you need to write often to - in fact, some people mount it read only. As for having every filesystem of the same type - I prefer variety ;-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFK7uKtTMYHG2NR9URAkKjAJ93Ic5FXGSYDzbL63J38GQHMc60JQCfV4TX o2UbCsSObKln39177x5yz+0= =iN0W -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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