Hi, I was trying to install SuSE Linux Pro 9.1 using the ftp-version into an old Celeron Machine, with a sis900 Ethernet NIC. After running into a *lot* of trouble to make the sis900 Network Card work (logs were complaining about ISA Bridge), I discovered that it's support is broken in kernels from 2.6.3 to 2.6.5 (perhaps 2.6.6 also) here: http://teg.homeunix.org/sis900.html (Just to mention, last updated kernel from SuSE 9.1 uses 2.6.5) I could not find any reference thee this problem in the list's archives. In that page there is a patch to the kernel-source, but I was looking for a more easily maintained version - so I don't have to recompile the kernel myself to fix the security holes. My question: is it possible to restore sis900 support (using the simple patch in the page above) in the next update of the kernel image? Who can I mail to ask this change to be made in the next versions? Regards, Marcos Lazarini NICS Admin @ Unicamp - Brazil
On Tuesday 17 Aug 2004 04:40, Marcos Vinicius Lazarini wrote:
Hi,
I was trying to install SuSE Linux Pro 9.1 using the ftp-version into an old Celeron Machine, with a sis900 Ethernet NIC. After running into a *lot* of trouble to make the sis900 Network Card work (logs were complaining about ISA Bridge), I discovered that it's support is broken in kernels from 2.6.3 to 2.6.5 (perhaps 2.6.6 also) here: http://teg.homeunix.org/sis900.html (Just to mention, last updated kernel from SuSE 9.1 uses 2.6.5) I could not find any reference thee this problem in the list's archives.
In that page there is a patch to the kernel-source, but I was looking for a more easily maintained version - so I don't have to recompile the kernel myself to fix the security holes.
My question: is it possible to restore sis900 support (using the simple patch in the page above) in the next update of the kernel image? Who can I mail to ask this change to be made in the next versions?
Regards, Marcos Lazarini NICS Admin @ Unicamp - Brazil
Hi .. I think sis900 support is just fine .. 0000:00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet (rev 90) works just fine here never misses a beat yast found it on install ok .. Try the latest Suse kernel 2.6.5-7.104-default the sis900 is ok and aas far as i know the holes that existed have been plugged . Pete. -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN
peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 17 Aug 2004 04:40, Marcos Vinicius Lazarini wrote:
Hi,
I was trying to install SuSE Linux Pro 9.1 using the ftp-version into an old Celeron Machine, with a sis900 Ethernet NIC. After running into a *lot* of trouble to make the sis900 Network Card work (logs were complaining about ISA Bridge), I discovered that it's support is broken in kernels from 2.6.3 to 2.6.5 (perhaps 2.6.6 also) here: http://teg.homeunix.org/sis900.html (Just to mention, last updated kernel from SuSE 9.1 uses 2.6.5) I could not find any reference thee this problem in the list's archives.
In that page there is a patch to the kernel-source, but I was looking for a more easily maintained version - so I don't have to recompile the kernel myself to fix the security holes.
My question: is it possible to restore sis900 support (using the simple patch in the page above) in the next update of the kernel image? Who can I mail to ask this change to be made in the next versions?
Regards, Marcos Lazarini NICS Admin @ Unicamp - Brazil
Hi ..
I think sis900 support is just fine .. 0000:00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet (rev 90) works just fine here never misses a beat yast found it on install ok ..
Try the latest Suse kernel 2.6.5-7.104-default the sis900 is ok and aas far as i know the holes that existed have been plugged .
Pete.
-- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN
That's the point. I have a board with different revision number. # lspci ... 0000:00:01.1 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet (rev 81) ... BTW, the module is installed but never used: # lsmod Module Size Used by .... sis900 19716 0 ... I'll try to summarize what I found: Until kernel 2.6.3, sis900 had PCI device ID 0x10390008 (do cat /proc/bus/pci/devices to check yours). But this ID prevents SMBus to work correctly; to fix, they changed the PCI ID to 0x10390018 in versions 2.6.3 and after. According to the link above, the sis900 module was changed to detect the new PCI ID only after version 2.6.6. Right now, I'm waiting to finish the (long) compilation of my patched kernel (2.6.5-7.104-default) to see if it works. I also tried Knoppix, using the 2.6.6 kernel, and got the same problem. Regards, Marcos Lazarini
On Tuesday 17 Aug 2004 17:25, Marcos Lazarini wrote:
peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 17 Aug 2004 04:40, Marcos Vinicius Lazarini wrote:
Hi,
I was trying to install SuSE Linux Pro 9.1 using the ftp-version into an old Celeron Machine, with a sis900 Ethernet NIC. After running into a *lot* of trouble to make the sis900 Network Card work (logs were complaining about ISA Bridge), I discovered that it's support is broken in kernels from 2.6.3 to 2.6.5 (perhaps 2.6.6 also) here: http://teg.homeunix.org/sis900.html (Just to mention, last updated kernel from SuSE 9.1 uses 2.6.5) I could not find any reference thee this problem in the list's archives.
In that page there is a patch to the kernel-source, but I was looking for a more easily maintained version - so I don't have to recompile the kernel myself to fix the security holes.
My question: is it possible to restore sis900 support (using the simple patch in the page above) in the next update of the kernel image? Who can I mail to ask this change to be made in the next versions?
Regards, Marcos Lazarini NICS Admin @ Unicamp - Brazil
Hi ..
I think sis900 support is just fine .. 0000:00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet (rev 90) works just fine here never misses a beat yast found it on install ok ..
Try the latest Suse kernel 2.6.5-7.104-default the sis900 is ok and aas far as i know the holes that existed have been plugged .
Pete.
-- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN
That's the point. I have a board with different revision number.
# lspci ... 0000:00:01.1 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet (rev 81) ...
BTW, the module is installed but never used: # lsmod Module Size Used by .... sis900 19716 0 ...
I'll try to summarize what I found: Until kernel 2.6.3, sis900 had PCI device ID 0x10390008 (do cat /proc/bus/pci/devices to check yours). But this ID prevents SMBus to work correctly; to fix, they changed the PCI ID to 0x10390018 in versions 2.6.3 and after. According to the link above, the sis900 module was changed to detect the new PCI ID only after version 2.6.6.
Right now, I'm waiting to finish the (long) compilation of my patched kernel (2.6.5-7.104-default) to see if it works.
I also tried Knoppix, using the 2.6.6 kernel, and got the same problem.
Regards, Marcos Lazarini
Huimmmmmmm cant even make much sense of the listing at the moment it is not making much sense right now still I'll look in the morning when i wake up a bit just one thing is your eth on the MoBo or a PCI card..?. -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 17 Aug 2004 17:25, Marcos Lazarini wrote:
peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 17 Aug 2004 04:40, Marcos Vinicius Lazarini wrote:
Hi,
I was trying to install SuSE Linux Pro 9.1 using the ftp-version into an old Celeron Machine, with a sis900 Ethernet NIC. After running into a *lot* of trouble to make the sis900 Network Card work (logs were complaining about ISA Bridge), I discovered that it's support is broken in kernels from 2.6.3 to 2.6.5 (perhaps 2.6.6 also) here: http://teg.homeunix.org/sis900.html (Just to mention, last updated kernel from SuSE 9.1 uses 2.6.5) I could not find any reference thee this problem in the list's archives.
In that page there is a patch to the kernel-source, but I was looking for a more easily maintained version - so I don't have to recompile the kernel myself to fix the security holes.
My question: is it possible to restore sis900 support (using the simple patch in the page above) in the next update of the kernel image? Who can I mail to ask this change to be made in the next versions?
Regards, Marcos Lazarini NICS Admin @ Unicamp - Brazil
Hi ..
I think sis900 support is just fine .. 0000:00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet (rev 90) works just fine here never misses a beat yast found it on install ok ..
Try the latest Suse kernel 2.6.5-7.104-default the sis900 is ok and aas far as i know the holes that existed have been plugged .
Pete.
-- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN
That's the point. I have a board with different revision number.
# lspci ... 0000:00:01.1 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet (rev 81) ...
BTW, the module is installed but never used: # lsmod Module Size Used by .... sis900 19716 0 ...
I'll try to summarize what I found: Until kernel 2.6.3, sis900 had PCI device ID 0x10390008 (do cat /proc/bus/pci/devices to check yours). But this ID prevents SMBus to work correctly; to fix, they changed the PCI ID to 0x10390018 in versions 2.6.3 and after. According to the link above, the sis900 module was changed to detect the new PCI ID only after version 2.6.6.
Right now, I'm waiting to finish the (long) compilation of my patched kernel (2.6.5-7.104-default) to see if it works.
I also tried Knoppix, using the 2.6.6 kernel, and got the same problem.
Regards, Marcos Lazarini
Huimmmmmmm cant even make much sense of the listing at the moment it is not making much sense right now still I'll look in the morning when i wake up a bit just one thing is your eth on the MoBo or a PCI card..?. -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN
It's a PCChips board, with video-sound-modem-network on-board. (yeah, I know, it's terrible... you don't imagine how many linux-drivers-related problems this incredible piece-of-art chalenged us here) Good news! I'm writing this e-mail at the problematic machine, and the the patch to the kernel fixed my problem! But, checking my theory, I think the problem is not with the PCI ID from the sis900; it is related with the ID of the so called 'ISA Bridge' used by this module, and now (with a working system on my hands) my opinion is that the PCI ID of this 'ISA Bridge' was changed - that's explain (to me) why the module can be loaded without problems, but it refuses to its job. Below is a fragment of the /var/log/messages, generated using the instalation kernel: Aug 17 12:09:22 berimbau kernel: sis900.c: v1.08.07 11/02/2003 Aug 17 12:09:22 berimbau kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:01.1 Aug 17 12:09:22 berimbau kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:00:0f.1 Aug 17 12:09:22 berimbau kernel: eth0: Can not find ISA bridge (perhaps with a more detailed analysis of the kernel-source, someone should be able to conclude this) The fact is: my board is 'network-less' with the actual kernel-version used in SuSE 9.1!!!!!!! Don't need to say that I'm not very happy to have to compile the kernel after each security update (not to mention the almost 6h compilation time), otherwise I would be using Gentoo Linux. Is there any way we can solve this problem?? Help will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Marcos Lazarini
On Wednesday 18 Aug 2004 21:56, Marcos Vinicius Lazarini wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 17 Aug 2004 17:25, Marcos Lazarini wrote:
peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 17 Aug 2004 04:40, Marcos Vinicius Lazarini wrote:
Hi,
I was trying to install SuSE Linux Pro 9.1 using the ftp-version into an old Celeron Machine, with a sis900 Ethernet NIC. After running into a *lot* of trouble to make the sis900 Network Card work (logs were complaining about ISA Bridge), I discovered that it's support is broken in kernels from 2.6.3 to 2.6.5 (perhaps 2.6.6 also) here: http://teg.homeunix.org/sis900.html (Just to mention, last updated kernel from SuSE 9.1 uses 2.6.5) I could not find any reference thee this problem in the list's archives.
In that page there is a patch to the kernel-source, but I was looking for a more easily maintained version - so I don't have to recompile the kernel myself to fix the security holes.
My question: is it possible to restore sis900 support (using the simple patch in the page above) in the next update of the kernel image? Who can I mail to ask this change to be made in the next versions?
Regards, Marcos Lazarini NICS Admin @ Unicamp - Brazil
Hi ..
I think sis900 support is just fine .. 0000:00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet (rev 90) works just fine here never misses a beat yast found it on install ok ..
Try the latest Suse kernel 2.6.5-7.104-default the sis900 is ok and aas far as i know the holes that existed have been plugged .
Pete.
-- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN
That's the point. I have a board with different revision number.
# lspci ... 0000:00:01.1 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet (rev 81) ...
BTW, the module is installed but never used: # lsmod Module Size Used by .... sis900 19716 0 ...
I'll try to summarize what I found: Until kernel 2.6.3, sis900 had PCI device ID 0x10390008 (do cat /proc/bus/pci/devices to check yours). But this ID prevents SMBus to work correctly; to fix, they changed the PCI ID to 0x10390018 in versions 2.6.3 and after. According to the link above, the sis900 module was changed to detect the new PCI ID only after version 2.6.6.
Right now, I'm waiting to finish the (long) compilation of my patched kernel (2.6.5-7.104-default) to see if it works.
I also tried Knoppix, using the 2.6.6 kernel, and got the same problem.
Regards, Marcos Lazarini
Huimmmmmmm cant even make much sense of the listing at the moment it is not making much sense right now still I'll look in the morning when i wake up a bit just one thing is your eth on the MoBo or a PCI card..?. -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN
It's a PCChips board, with video-sound-modem-network on-board. I've had worse used to use PC Chips myself not to many problems then a few years ago always used to dissable the onboard video and use an PCI video card seemed to work a lot better non of the system mem used for video (yeah, I know, it's terrible... you don't imagine how many linux-drivers-related problems this incredible piece-of-art chalenged us here)
Good news! I'm writing this e-mail at the problematic machine, and the the patch to the kernel fixed my problem!
But, checking my theory, I think the problem is not with the PCI ID from the sis900; it is related with the ID of the so called 'ISA Bridge' used by this module, and now (with a working system on my hands) my opinion is that the PCI ID of this 'ISA Bridge' was changed - that's explain (to me) why the module can be loaded without problems, but it refuses to its job.
Below is a fragment of the /var/log/messages, generated using the instalation kernel: Aug 17 12:09:22 berimbau kernel: sis900.c: v1.08.07 11/02/2003 Aug 17 12:09:22 berimbau kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:01.1 Aug 17 12:09:22 berimbau kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:00:0f.1 Aug 17 12:09:22 berimbau kernel: eth0: Can not find ISA bridge May 29 10:43:01 ds9 kernel: sis900.c: v1.08.07 11/02/2003 May 29 10:43:01 ds9 kernel: eth0: Realtek RTL8201 PHY transceiver found at address 1. May 29 10:43:01 ds9 kernel: eth0: Using transceiver found at address 1 as default May 29 10:43:01 ds9 kernel: eth0: SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet at 0xd400, IRQ 10, 00:0b:6a:27:fc:df. take no notice of the date it is the same for the up-todate kernel i checked.
(perhaps with a more detailed analysis of the kernel-source, someone should be able to conclude this)
The fact is: my board is 'network-less' with the actual kernel-version used in SuSE 9.1!!!!!!!
Sounds more like a problem on board with IRQ's ect must admit i had no problems with this one built onto this ASROCK MoBo (cheap version of an ASUS from what i read) you have things like Plug&Play aware O/S Installed turned OFF in the bios (more like Plug&Pray).
Don't need to say that I'm not very happy to have to compile the kernel after each security update (not to mention the almost 6h compilation time), otherwise I would be using Gentoo Linux. 6 Hours Ouchh! not nice ..
Is there any way we can solve this problem?? Help will be greatly appreciated.
Regards, Marcos Lazarini
As you say it appears to be an issue with the particular ISA bridge in use on that MoBo , I am not shure if playing with the resources in the bios may not help like assigning an Fixed IRQ to the network chip or the ISA Bridge if it can be done , Other than that it is down to supiouer (SP) brains than me to solve it properly .. Pete . -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN
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