Re: [SLE] KDE service releases via YOU?
On Tue June 3 2003 1:50 pm, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Tuesday June 03 2003 9:25 am, Stan Glasoe wrote:
[snip]
Apt-get for SuSE would update KDE to 3.1.2 from what I understand.
Stan
The real answer is in the README.txt at 'pick your favorite mirror' /pub/comp/os/unix/linux/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/.
How about posting the answer, as I coldn't get the file.
Thanks,
Fred
And I quote:
README.txt in directory /pub/suse/<arch>/supplementary/ on ftp.suse.com
or mirrors, dated Wed Sep 18 17:49:27 MEST 2002, draht@.
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Dear SuSE Linux user,
Generally, we do not provide update packages with newer versions in the
official update tree. Our high quality standard forces us to keep to the
versions originally published with a product to maintain the overall system
in a consistent state with regards to cross-dependent packages (think of a
linux system like a building, built with packages like bricks one on top of
another). Fixing a problem in a package with a new version (some openssl
library for example) will most certainly bring about malfunctions in other
parts of the system.
After all, you will definitely not be satisfied if you install a security
fix that renders your system unusable.
The directory /pub/suse/<arch>/supplementary/ contains RPM packages that
originate from SuSE build engines and that are built for the specific
distribution as visible in the directory path that leads to the package.
Some of the packages have been built by their respective package maintainer
at SuSE in his/her spare time. The packages are usually signed with the
SuSE
build key build@suse.de, or at least by the personal key of a SuSE employee
so that you can verify that the packages really are from SuSE sources.
We publish these packages as a service to the community (you) because many
users of the SuSE Linux operating system wish to use newer versions of
specific packages due to feature or hardware support constraints in older
SuSE Linux versions without the obligation to upgrade the entire system.
Even though these packages have been built for the specific SuSE Linux
version, there is no warranty that these packages seamlessly interoperate
with the rest of the system. The packages have been made with "best effort"
and _should_ work as described in the README files contained in the
respective directories. We make no claim about their fitness for a specific
purpose, so you might as well experience that the package you have chosen
does not work properly on your system. In addition to this, there is no
warranty about the fitness of the packages in security matters: There are
no
updates for these packages unless the maintainer decides to refresh the
trees with new builds.
To make it short: If you wish to use a newer version of a package and if
you
insist on having properly working updates at hand if there is a security
update, then please use a newer SuSE Linux version. If you feel a little
bit
adventurous, then these packages will suit your needs.
Regards,
Roman Drahtmüller,
SuSE Security
Good day, Tirsdag den 3. juni 2003 21:11 kvad Stan Glasoe:
The real answer is in the README.txt at 'pick your favorite mirror' /pub/comp/os/unix/linux/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/.
How about posting the answer, as I coldn't get the file.
And I quote:
README.txt in directory /pub/suse/<arch>/supplementary/ on ftp.suse.com or mirrors, dated Wed Sep 18 17:49:27 MEST 2002, draht@.
[SNIP long quote] Thank you :o) Best regards :o) Johnny :o)
On Wed June 4 2003 2:28 am, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote:
Good day,
Tirsdag den 3. juni 2003 21:11 kvad Stan Glasoe:
The real answer is in the README.txt at 'pick your favorite mirror' /pub/comp/os/unix/linux/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/.
How about posting the answer, as I coldn't get the file.
And I quote:
README.txt in directory /pub/suse/<arch>/supplementary/ on ftp.suse.com or mirrors, dated Wed Sep 18 17:49:27 MEST 2002, draht@.
[SNIP long quote]
Thank you :o)
Best regards :o)
Johnny :o)
The following is a from Philipp Thomas of SuSE in response to the "8.2 boot.iso" thread here. I believe this also answers the issue of updated programs within each major SuSE version. quote: On Tue June 3 2003 7:11 pm, Philipp Thomas wrote:
"Carlos E. R."
[3 Jun 2003 20:59:50 +0200]: I fact, not even reporting something to "feedback" guarantees having it corrected, or at least not till next version.
Yes, we do decide what warrants an immediate update and what not. The policy is rather simple: only serious and/or security bugs will be fixed for released distributions. It's a simple question of resources.
Philipp
-- Philipp Thomas work: pthomas@suse.de Development, SuSE Linux AG private: philipp.thomas@t-link.de
end quote. Stan
Stan Glasoe wrote:
The following is a from Philipp Thomas of SuSE in response to the "8.2 boot.iso" thread here. I believe this also answers the issue of updated programs within each major SuSE version.
quote:
On Tue June 3 2003 7:11 pm, Philipp Thomas wrote:
"Carlos E. R."
[3 Jun 2003 20:59:50 +0200]: I fact, not even reporting something to "feedback" guarantees having it corrected, or at least not till next version.
Yes, we do decide what warrants an immediate update and what not. The policy is rather simple: only serious and/or security bugs will be fixed for released distributions. It's a simple question of resources.
Philipp
-- Philipp Thomas work: pthomas@suse.de Development, SuSE Linux AG private: philipp.thomas@t-link.de
end quote.
Understandable, but the question is: If Suse supplies 3.1.2 packages via the supplementary-directory, do they also fix serious issues for these and distribute them via YOU? The qt-issue with 3.1.2 and Yast-software-installation would be one exapmle? I do not have that thread anymore, otherwise I would ask Philipp. Sven
On Wed June 4 2003 8:28 am, Sven Burmeister wrote: <snippage>
Understandable, but the question is: If Suse supplies 3.1.2 packages via the supplementary-directory, do they also fix serious issues for these and distribute them via YOU? The qt-issue with 3.1.2 and Yast-software-installation would be one exapmle? I do not have that thread anymore, otherwise I would ask Philipp.
Sven
That was in the README.txt I sent yesterday. Updates, bug fixes, security fixes to anything in the /supplementary direrctories are at the specific package maintainer's discretion, time and ability. The README.txt clearly states this and why. They are not distributed via YOU hence the apt-get and fou4s alternatives. Stan
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