[opensuse] Recommended by Microsoft
I've tried to ignore the business of Novell's agreement with MS, but today Novell wrote to me offering a free seminar on SUSE Linux Enterprise 10. In their email they inform me that SUSE is, "The only Linux recommended by Microsoft". Are they deliberately trying to annoy me? Anyway, I've written back and told them that I would never buy anything that came recommended by Microsoft. I've bought boxed versions of SUSE Linux since version 6.4 (I think it was). I won't be doing that again until Novell stop using that particular bit of marketing nonsense. I'm not the only one either. Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 13:06, Peter Bradley wrote:
"The only Linux recommended by Microsoft". Are they deliberately trying to annoy me?
Anyway, I've written back and told them that I would never buy anything that came recommended by Microsoft. Well, what can we say... marketing is *not* one of Novell's strong suits... in fact they are pretty much *void* in the skillset... <sigh>
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On 07 March 07 13:06, Peter Bradley wrote:
I've tried to ignore the business of Novell's agreement with MS, but today Novell wrote to me offering a free seminar on SUSE Linux Enterprise 10. In their email they inform me that SUSE is, "The only Linux recommended by Microsoft". Are they deliberately trying to annoy me?
Are you serious!? It actually said that!? That's just...*wrong*. It utterly disgusts me.
Anyway, I've written back and told them that I would never buy anything that came recommended by Microsoft.
Now that I've read what they did above, Novell isn't getting a penny from me again either. I've used SuSE since 7.3 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
JB wrote:
On 07 March 07 13:06, Peter Bradley wrote:
I've tried to ignore the business of Novell's agreement with MS, but today Novell wrote to me offering a free seminar on SUSE Linux Enterprise 10. In their email they inform me that SUSE is, "The only Linux recommended by Microsoft". Are they deliberately trying to annoy me?
Are you serious!? It actually said that!? That's just...*wrong*. It utterly disgusts me.
Anyway, I've written back and told them that I would never buy anything that came recommended by Microsoft.
Now that I've read what they did above, Novell isn't getting a penny from me again either. I've used SuSE since 7.3
Are you guys for real? What if Novell does business with Microsoft? Does it make ground for boycott? What about USA? If you don't agree with Bush/Iraq war/secret CIA prisons/whatever, you better boycott USA too! Oh, wait... Novell makes great products, I don't care who or what they do business with (as long as it's not illegal or immoral). Should you boycott USA too? Oh, many of you live there..! What to do...? I don't like Bush/Iraq war/secret CIA prisons/whatever, but I don't blast every american I see because of that. The world is not Black and White, as some make it to look like! My recommendation is to GROW UP and stop this childish rant or at least take it to the OT list!!! /JK -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 14:36, Jan Karjalainen wrote:
My recommendation is to GROW UP and stop this childish rant or at least take it to the OT list!!! Well, I guess you told us...
.... brought to you by "Micro$oft," the only backwater scumsucking bottom dweller to recommend *only* Novell linux.... ... now that's marketing for ya ... -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ysgrifennodd Jan Karjalainen:
JB wrote:
On 07 March 07 13:06, Peter Bradley wrote:
I've tried to ignore the business of Novell's agreement with MS, but today Novell wrote to me offering a free seminar on SUSE Linux Enterprise 10. In their email they inform me that SUSE is, "The only Linux recommended by Microsoft". Are they deliberately trying to annoy me?
Are you serious!? It actually said that!? That's just...*wrong*. It utterly disgusts me.
Anyway, I've written back and told them that I would never buy anything that came recommended by Microsoft.
Now that I've read what they did above, Novell isn't getting a penny from me again either. I've used SuSE since 7.3
Are you guys for real? What if Novell does business with Microsoft? Does it make ground for boycott? What about USA? If you don't agree with Bush/Iraq war/secret CIA prisons/whatever, you better boycott USA too! Oh, wait... Novell makes great products, I don't care who or what they do business with (as long as it's not illegal or immoral). Should you boycott USA too? Oh, many of you live there..! What to do...? I don't like Bush/Iraq war/secret CIA prisons/whatever, but I don't blast every american I see because of that. The world is not Black and White, as some make it to look like! My recommendation is to GROW UP and stop this childish rant or at least take it to the OT list!!!
/JK Erm. Excuse me, but your reaction appears to me to be the only hysterical one around here.
But since you obviously missed the point of what was being said, let me explain it for you. I do not object to Novell doing business with Microsoft. No-one has said that. Heck, *I* do business with Microsoft when I have to. What I took exception to was the Novell marketing people telling me that SUSE Linux was, "The only Linux recommended by Microsoft". Many of us came to Linux in an attempt to get away from Microsoft. What does a recommendation like that in an email to my personal account say about Novell's knowledge of their customers? OK, so you may be happy to buy the things MS recommends. That's your choice. My choice is not to, whenever I have that choice. Whether you or anyone else likes it or not, Novell - by attaching that inflammatory sentence in their email - lost themselves at least one paying customer. And yes I do try to avoid doing anything that might support the Iraq war, when I can. Now, if you don't like any of that, that's really your problem; but I would appreciate it if you would stop shouting. It's not nice. Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
least take it to the OT list!!!
/JK Erm. Excuse me, but your reaction appears to me to be the only hysterical one around here.
But since you obviously missed the point of what was being said, let me explain it for you.
I do not object to Novell doing business with Microsoft. No-one has said that. Heck, *I* do business with Microsoft when I have to. What I took exception to was the Novell marketing people telling me that SUSE Linux was, "The only Linux recommended by Microsoft". Many of us came to Linux in an attempt to get away from Microsoft. What does a recommendation like that in an email to my personal account say about Novell's knowledge of their customers?
Their list might be rather generic, maybe there are a lot of MS people on it, or people using both, so you can assume the reference to "The only...." was directed at brain dead MS users, you should just realize that and move on. I see the Novell/MS deal as a trojan horse .... you are not happy that you see the gift is given (as you perceive it), but if you wait and see the outcome, you will be VERY happy. "Got to keep your friends close, and your enemies closer". All will be revealed to you in time .... -tl
OK, so you may be happy to buy the things MS recommends. That's your choice. My choice is not to, whenever I have that choice. Whether you or anyone else likes it or not, Novell - by attaching that inflammatory sentence in their email - lost themselves at least one paying customer.
And yes I do try to avoid doing anything that might support the Iraq war, when I can.
Now, if you don't like any of that, that's really your problem; but I would appreciate it if you would stop shouting. It's not nice.
Peter
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On Mar 07, 07 19:06:01 +0000, Peter Bradley wrote:
I've tried to ignore the business of Novell's agreement with MS, but today Novell wrote to me offering a free seminar on SUSE Linux Enterprise 10. In their email they inform me that SUSE is, "The only Linux recommended by Microsoft". Are they deliberately trying to annoy me?
No. Sorry to hear that. Novell made MS say something they would not have said on their own.
Anyway, I've written back and told them that I would never buy anything that came recommended by Microsoft.
Wise move. I mean, talking to the marketing guys may help.
I've bought boxed versions of SUSE Linux since version 6.4 (I think it was). I won't be doing that again until Novell stop using that particular bit of marketing nonsense. I'm not the only one either.
So, you already classified it as nonsense and it still influences your buying decisions? Okay, I see the point why you must say this ... cheers, Jw. -- o \ Juergen Weigert paint it green! __/ _=======.=======_ <V> | jw@suse.de wide open suse_/ _---|____________\/ \ | 0911 74053-508 (tm)__/ (____/ /\ (/) | __________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
From what I've seen on this thread, people will apparently stop using a distribution if Microsoft endorses it. Clearly, the way for Microsoft to eliminate Linux as a threat is just to endorse every distribution, then no one will use it anymore. ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 16:40, David Brodbeck wrote:
From what I've seen on this thread, people will apparently stop using a distribution if Microsoft endorses it. Clearly, the way for Microsoft to eliminate Linux as a threat is just to endorse every distribution, then no one will use it anymore. ;)
Please don't confuse us with logic. RRS "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" - Homer Simpson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 07 March 2007, Juergen Weigert wrote:
Anyway, I've written back and told them that I would never buy anything that came recommended by Microsoft.
Wise move. I mean, talking to the marketing guys may help.
Juergen, just WHEN has it ever HELPED to talk to marketing guys?!? What marketing guys have you ever met that lets you actually TALK? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mar 08, 07 00:25:01 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
On Wednesday 07 March 2007, Juergen Weigert wrote:
Anyway, I've written back and told them that I would never buy anything that came recommended by Microsoft.
Wise move. I mean, talking to the marketing guys may help.
Juergen, just WHEN has it ever HELPED to talk to marketing guys?!? What marketing guys have you ever met that lets you actually TALK?
Ah, you apparently talked to some and it helped. It helped you to understand. :-) cheers, Jw. -- o \ Juergen Weigert paint it green! __/ _=======.=======_ <V> | jw@suse.de wide open suse_/ _---|____________\/ \ | 0911 74053-508 (tm)__/ (____/ /\ (/) | __________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 07 March 2007, Peter Bradley wrote:
In their email they inform me that SUSE is, "The only Linux recommended by Microsoft". Are they deliberately trying to annoy me?
Maybe they get a huge discount on Windows, like Dell and HP do when they write "Dell Recommends Windows Vista" ;-) -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 08 March 2007 10:21, John Andersen wrote:
On Wednesday 07 March 2007, Peter Bradley wrote:
In their email they inform me that SUSE is, "The only Linux recommended by Microsoft". Are they deliberately trying to annoy me?
Maybe they get a huge discount on Windows, like Dell and HP do when they write "Dell Recommends Windows Vista" ;-)
You mean Microsoft gets a discount on SUSE? Remember who recommends whom :) Incidentally, this thread makes me thing: people always say that there is no way Microsoft can ever kill linux. Well, apparently there is. All they have to do is recommend it :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
http://www.linux-mag.com/id/2977/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 09 March 2007 12:40:58 am Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
...must not click on the advertisement... http://donutmonster.com/stuff/2007/20070309_linuxmag_winad.jpg ...must not click.... :) -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com closing the doors that surround me so no one will ever penetrate complete my retreat just to wait for the day that never comes so i will laugh alone -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 3/9/07, Kai Ponte
On Friday 09 March 2007 12:40:58 am Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
...must not click on the advertisement...
http://donutmonster.com/stuff/2007/20070309_linuxmag_winad.jpg
...must not click....
:)
good one :)
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On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 21:06 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 08 March 2007 10:21, John Andersen wrote:
On Wednesday 07 March 2007, Peter Bradley wrote:
In their email they inform me that SUSE is, "The only Linux recommended by Microsoft". Are they deliberately trying to annoy me?
Maybe they get a huge discount on Windows, like Dell and HP do when they write "Dell Recommends Windows Vista" ;-)
You mean Microsoft gets a discount on SUSE? Remember who recommends whom :)
Incidentally, this thread makes me thing: people always say that there is no way Microsoft can ever kill linux. Well, apparently there is. All they have to do is recommend it :)
On a technical note: I have 10.2 installed and cant access shares or be accessed by Vista machines (I know all the technical detail why). How does this fit in to the MS supporting SUSE? Or does SLED support Vista? E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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