I'm getting itchy, and even though my 9.1 upgrade has shipped, I wanted to start playing, so I downloaded the LiveCD-9.1.iso, and burned it to a CD, but it is not detected as a bootable CD on two different systems.
Sounds like me. Hmmmm...... it sounds like the burn operation did not go as expected.
The .iso file I downloaded computes to the same md5sum as the value in MD5SUMS. The CD I burned passes a 'verify' check against the .iso file. I actually tried this twice, once with Xcdroast, and again with cdrecord, but neither copy will boot.
Did you burn the .iso to the disc or did you tell the programs to burn the contents of the iso to the disc. Look at the CDs and see if you see either a .iso file or you see some files and directories.
ANybody else encountered this, or can pass me a clue?
For a clue, look above. If you have just the .iso file on the cd, then you did the burn incorrectly. You can try and burn it from the command line. Like so cdrecord dev=0,0,0 speed=12 -eject -data <name of iso including the extension>. Substitute for the correct device, speed and name of image file on your system. I did burn a Live CD and it works very well for me here. I can't wait to get 9.1! HTH, Marshall
On Wed, 5 May 2004, Marshall Heartley wrote:
Did you burn the .iso to the disc or did you tell the programs to burn the contents of the iso to the disc. Look at the CDs and see if you see either a .iso file or you see some files and directories. When I mount the CD, I see the same tree of files and directories that I get when I mount the .iso on the loop device.
ANybody else encountered this, or can pass me a clue?
For a clue, look above. If you have just the .iso file on the cd, then you did the burn incorrectly. You can try and burn it from the command line. Like so cdrecord dev=0,0,0 speed=12 -eject -data <name of iso including the extension>. Substitute for the correct device, speed and name of image file on your system. I did burn a Live CD and it works very well for me here. I can't wait to get 9.1!
Here's the command I used, and has worked for the Knoppix .iso's: cdrecord -dev 0,1,0 -v speed=8 LiveCD-9.1.iso (According to the manpage, -data is the default). -- Rick Green "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin
When I mount the CD, I see the same tree of files and directories that I get when I mount the .iso on the loop device.
This is a good thing. <snip>
cdrecord -dev 0,1,0 -v speed=8 LiveCD-9.1.iso
(According to the manpage, -data is the default).
This should have worked. I am not sure why it will not boot on your machines. I did the procedure that I described before and it works. If BIOS can boot from CD and you can see the directory structure, then I am not sure. Maybe some others can help. Marshall
On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 17:32, Marshall Heartley wrote:
I'm getting itchy, and even though my 9.1 upgrade has shipped, I wanted to start playing, so I downloaded the LiveCD-9.1.iso, and burned it to a CD, but it is not detected as a bootable CD on two different systems.
Sounds like me. Hmmmm...... it sounds like the burn operation did not go as expected.
The .iso file I downloaded computes to the same md5sum as the value in MD5SUMS. The CD I burned passes a 'verify' check against the .iso file. I actually tried this twice, once with Xcdroast, and again with cdrecord, but neither copy will boot.
Did you burn the .iso to the disc or did you tell the programs to burn the contents of the iso to the disc. Look at the CDs and see if you see either a .iso file or you see some files and directories.
ANybody else encountered this, or can pass me a clue?
For a clue, look above. If you have just the .iso file on the cd, then you did the burn incorrectly. You can try and burn it from the command line. Like so cdrecord dev=0,0,0 speed=12 -eject -data <name of iso including the extension>. Substitute for the correct device, speed and name of image file on your system. I did burn a Live CD and it works very well for me here. I can't wait to get 9.1!
HTH,
Marshall
I had the same problem. I burnt the Live 9.1 CD 4 times using K3b, Nero
& Alcohol 120% with the same result: an unbootable CD on 2 different
systems. The only way I managed to boot it is to use Smart Boot Manager
and force the boot from the CD.
I'm glad I'm not alone ;) I was starting to get worried.
I have a Pioneer DVR-107 on one system (a custom dual P3) and an Asus
DVD-RW converted to a Pioneer DVD-106 on the other (Dell dimension
4100).
Both systems have no problem booting Fedora Core 1, Fedora Core 2 (Test
versions), Mandrake 9.2, Mandrake 10.0, Arch Linux, Gentoo, etc...
If there's a sensible explanation I'd like to hear it :)
--
Frederic Soulier
On Wed, 5 May 2004, Frederic Soulier wrote:
I had the same problem. I burnt the Live 9.1 CD 4 times using K3b, Nero & Alcohol 120% with the same result: an unbootable CD on 2 different systems. The only way I managed to boot it is to use Smart Boot Manager and force the boot from the CD.
I'm glad I'm not alone ;) I was starting to get worried. I have a Pioneer DVR-107 on one system (a custom dual P3) and an Asus DVD-RW converted to a Pioneer DVD-106 on the other (Dell dimension 4100). Both systems have no problem booting Fedora Core 1, Fedora Core 2 (Test versions), Mandrake 9.2, Mandrake 10.0, Arch Linux, Gentoo, etc...
If there's a sensible explanation I'd like to hear it :)
I got this explanation from a member of my local LUG: Some older BIOS (notably ASUS motherboards for AMD K6-2 processors) will not boot from a CDROM which contains a 2.88Mb boot floppy image. One of my test machines is indeed a K6-2(450), and the other a gateway with a PII-300. I tried it on my Dell Latitude Cpt (Celeraon 500) and it recognized the CD, booted the kernel, but then gave me several 'out-of-memory' errors, a segfault, and finally a kernel panic while it was still trying to load modules. I guess 128MB isn't enough to run the live-eval. I hope I have better luck tomorrow when the 9.1pro upgrade is scheduled to arrive! -- Rick Green "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin
On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 21:30, Rick Green wrote:
On Wed, 5 May 2004, Frederic Soulier wrote:
I had the same problem. I burnt the Live 9.1 CD 4 times using K3b, Nero & Alcohol 120% with the same result: an unbootable CD on 2 different systems. The only way I managed to boot it is to use Smart Boot Manager and force the boot from the CD.
I'm glad I'm not alone ;) I was starting to get worried. I have a Pioneer DVR-107 on one system (a custom dual P3) and an Asus DVD-RW converted to a Pioneer DVD-106 on the other (Dell dimension 4100). Both systems have no problem booting Fedora Core 1, Fedora Core 2 (Test versions), Mandrake 9.2, Mandrake 10.0, Arch Linux, Gentoo, etc...
If there's a sensible explanation I'd like to hear it :)
I got this explanation from a member of my local LUG: Some older BIOS (notably ASUS motherboards for AMD K6-2 processors) will not boot from a CDROM which contains a 2.88Mb boot floppy image. One of my test machines is indeed a K6-2(450), and the other a gateway with a PII-300. I tried it on my Dell Latitude Cpt (Celeraon 500) and it recognized the CD, booted the kernel, but then gave me several 'out-of-memory' errors, a segfault, and finally a kernel panic while it was still trying to load modules. I guess 128MB isn't enough to run the live-eval. I hope I have better luck tomorrow when the 9.1pro upgrade is scheduled to arrive!
So... has anyone gotten this figured out? Just fer grins, I d'loaded the iso and burned it, with k3b and it boots and runs fine so it looks like it is system dependent. I thought perhaps there might be iso file corruption during download er sump'n, but that doesn't appear to be the case.... at least not on this system. I do have to add "apic" as a boot paramaneter to grub on my system to force IRQ mapping, but other than that, it works. -- Brad Shelton On Line Exchange http://www.ole.net Phone: 313-526-1111 Fax: 313-526-3333
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Just fer grins, I d'loaded the iso and burned it, with k3b and it boots and runs fine so it looks like it is system dependent. I thought perhaps there might be iso file corruption during download er sump'n, but that doesn't appear to be the case.... at least not on this system.
yup, As far as the download and booting on most of the computers I've got here w/ no problems... including a couple of Asus Mobos... but I think they might be newer... (asus A7n266 )is on this box.. there is an older one whic doesn't have an easy way to tell what it is, but it's about 4 years old.. if that helps. It took forever to download the thing, even after I found a semi local mirror... So, do make certain you got everything. One version actually did try to make a bootable disk from an incomplete download... Which became obvious when the nubmers didn't match.. tho apparently the Key did .. restarted the download and got the rest... made my iso w/ k3b v. 0.10 and I've put it onto hardware everywhere I find a computer that the folks would allow me to... -- j -- nemo me impune lacessit it's just an afterthought; okay ? : Third Law of Advice: Simple advice is the best advice.
On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 04:32, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:
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on Thu, 06 May 2004 14:31:59 -0400*** Just fer grins, I d'loaded the iso and burned it, with k3b and it boots and runs fine so it looks like it is system dependent. I thought perhaps there might be iso file corruption during download er sump'n, but that doesn't appear to be the case.... at least not on this system.
yup, As far as the download and booting on most of the computers I've got here w/ no problems... including a couple of Asus Mobos... but I think they might be newer... (asus A7n266 )is on this box.. there is an older one whic doesn't have an easy way to tell what it is, but it's about 4 years old.. if that helps.
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restarted the download and got the rest... made my iso w/ k3b v. 0.10
0.11.9 here. Setting RAW sometimes matters. Not really sure how that plays in, but it just worked first time. Maybe I should try again and see if I can screw it up. -- Brad Shelton On Line Exchange http://www.ole.net Phone: 313-526-1111 Fax: 313-526-3333
For this example, Synaptic displays its progress dialog with the two bars moving together left to right and then stopping about 1/3 of the way. Synaptic then reloads it indexes and displays the packages selected for installation or removal. (rpm -qv synaptic -> synaptic-0.48.2-rb1.) This type of error has happened on Pro 9.0 thru -215 using KDE 3.1 & 3.2+ rar_3.3.0-0.pm.1_i586.rpm is chosen. Synamptic adds dependenciy a52dec_0.7.4-3.pm.0_i686.rpm and the removal of the obsoleted unrar-3.2.2-36. By hand, rpm -iv a52dec_0.7.4-3.pm.0_i686.rpm gives error message "warning: a52dec_0.7.4-3.pm.0_i686.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 5f6842a4," which must be what Synaptic is quitting on. It's reasonable not to install the RPM but Synaptic should show the errors. Am I overlooking something here? -- Phil
Op vrijdag 7 mei 2004 00:12, schreef Administrator:
For this example, Synaptic displays its progress dialog with the two bars moving together left to right and then stopping about 1/3 of the way. Synaptic then reloads it indexes and displays the packages selected for installation or removal. (rpm -qv synaptic -> synaptic-0.48.2-rb1.) This type of error has happened on Pro 9.0 thru -215 using KDE 3.1 & 3.2+
rar_3.3.0-0.pm.1_i586.rpm is chosen. Synamptic adds dependenciy a52dec_0.7.4-3.pm.0_i686.rpm and the removal of the obsoleted unrar-3.2.2-36.
By hand, rpm -iv a52dec_0.7.4-3.pm.0_i686.rpm gives error message "warning: a52dec_0.7.4-3.pm.0_i686.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 5f6842a4," which must be what Synaptic is quitting on.
It's reasonable not to install the RPM but Synaptic should show the errors. Am I overlooking something here?
Your analysis seems about right. Please address this problem to the synaptic developers synaptic-devel@nongnu.org -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
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