[opensuse] Blu Ray Copying
I hope this is an appropriate subject for this list. I have an idea to buy a large disk array with a high speed USB card for my desktop and copy my Blu Ray disk collection to the disks and then have the desktop serve them to my media center. I have researched this on Google and it seems possible, but I've tried so many things that people say work and it turns out they don't, and I can't afford to make a mistake. If anyone would know if this can be done considering the copy protection on the disks I would appreciate any insights. I am already doing this with DVDs that are NOT copy protected by copying each DVD to its own directory. I haven't worked out how to serve them to any of my A/V media yet, but I can use kaffeine. I know there are boxes for accessing media over networks though devices like Roku. Any info and experiences would be very welcomed. Thanks, Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8 January 2014 22:10, Jim Sabatke
I hope this is an appropriate subject for this list. I have an idea to buy a large disk array with a high speed USB card for my desktop and copy my Blu Ray disk collection to the disks and then have the desktop serve them to my media center.
I have researched this on Google and it seems possible, but I've tried so many things that people say work and it turns out they don't, and I can't afford to make a mistake.
If anyone would know if this can be done considering the copy protection on the disks I would appreciate any insights. I am already doing this with DVDs that are NOT copy protected by copying each DVD to its own directory. I haven't worked out how to serve them to any of my A/V media yet, but I can use kaffeine. I know there are boxes for accessing media over networks though devices like Roku.
Firstly, usual disclaimers apply, in some jurisdictions doing this is illegal, it is your responsibility to check if you are allowed to do this, don't hold me responsible if the NSA reports you to the MPAA, etc. Secondly, while a number of options are being worked on to allow native access, such as VLC, they all eventually run into the problem that they need a DRM key to allow them to decrypt the protected blu-rays. No-one has reverse-engineered a key yet, and even if they did they can be blacklisted on future blu-rays. There is one app however that is legal in its home country and so has managed to get a key, and it runs on Linux. This is MakeMkv, which allows you to rip the movie to a .mkv file which can be played by most media players, or to stream from the blu-ray directly. It also works for DVDs. MakeMkv is closed source and requires a licence key, but is currently free while in beta. You can install it from an OBS repo at [1], then get the required key at [2]. After the initial rip, if the mkv files are too big (it rips at 100% quality) then use something like HandBrake to reduce the size/quality. If you plan to have a separate HTPC box then I recommend using XBMC for the front-end, and sharing the files via nfs or smb shares. DLNA is also an option. John. [1] http://software.opensuse.org/package/makemkv?search_term=makemkv [2] http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1053 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Thanks for the response. I think I found a definitive answer, which surprised me because there are very expensive recorders that bulk store one's own blu rays for both faster, indexed playback; as well as for solving storage area problems with large blu ray and dvd collections like mine. I was aware that it has always been legal to make backups of media one owns for their own archival purposes, but after a web search, it is clear that it is illegal to possess or use the software that can decrypt the media to store them. That really sucks because my storage and retrieval has become so unwieldy that I often give up looking for disks I own. Thank you for providing the technical answer, and this clearly isn't a forum for discussing legalities or moralities related to this question. I have always been absolute on refusal to copy any media I don't own, but it appears I would be risking too much to make copies. Regards, Jim Thus spake iPad.
On Jan 8, 2014, at 6:22 PM, John Layt
wrote: On 8 January 2014 22:10, Jim Sabatke
wrote: I hope this is an appropriate subject for this list. I have an idea to buy a large disk array with a high speed USB card for my desktop and copy my Blu Ray disk collection to the disks and then have the desktop serve them to my media center. I have researched this on Google and it seems possible, but I've tried so many things that people say work and it turns out they don't, and I can't afford to make a mistake.
If anyone would know if this can be done considering the copy protection on the disks I would appreciate any insights. I am already doing this with DVDs that are NOT copy protected by copying each DVD to its own directory. I haven't worked out how to serve them to any of my A/V media yet, but I can use kaffeine. I know there are boxes for accessing media over networks though devices like Roku.
Firstly, usual disclaimers apply, in some jurisdictions doing this is illegal, it is your responsibility to check if you are allowed to do this, don't hold me responsible if the NSA reports you to the MPAA, etc. Secondly, while a number of options are being worked on to allow native access, such as VLC, they all eventually run into the problem that they need a DRM key to allow them to decrypt the protected blu-rays. No-one has reverse-engineered a key yet, and even if they did they can be blacklisted on future blu-rays.
There is one app however that is legal in its home country and so has managed to get a key, and it runs on Linux. This is MakeMkv, which allows you to rip the movie to a .mkv file which can be played by most media players, or to stream from the blu-ray directly. It also works for DVDs. MakeMkv is closed source and requires a licence key, but is currently free while in beta. You can install it from an OBS repo at [1], then get the required key at [2].
After the initial rip, if the mkv files are too big (it rips at 100% quality) then use something like HandBrake to reduce the size/quality. If you plan to have a separate HTPC box then I recommend using XBMC for the front-end, and sharing the files via nfs or smb shares. DLNA is also an option.
John.
[1] http://software.opensuse.org/package/makemkv?search_term=makemkv [2] http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1053 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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On 09/01/14 09:10, Jim Sabatke wrote:
I hope this is an appropriate subject for this list. I have an idea to buy a large disk array with a high speed USB card for my desktop and copy my Blu Ray disk collection to the disks and then have the desktop serve them to my media center.
I have researched this on Google and it seems possible, but I've tried so many things that people say work and it turns out they don't, and I can't afford to make a mistake.
If anyone would know if this can be done considering the copy protection on the disks I would appreciate any insights. I am already doing this with DVDs that are NOT copy protected by copying each DVD to its own directory. I haven't worked out how to serve them to any of my A/V media yet, but I can use kaffeine. I know there are boxes for accessing media over networks though devices like Roku.
Any info and experiences would be very welcomed.
Thanks,
Jim
If you want hassle-free handling of the type of media you mention above, firstly you need to have Windows installed - forget about anything-Linux which will only give you diarrhoea and a head-full of grey hair (oh, one exception to this: k3b) - and then invest in 2 applications: DVDFab; and DVDFab Media Player 2 Both will handle any Bd disc, or whatever, 'thrown' at them. See all details on their website. How do I know? A friend who uses them told me. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.12.0 & kernel 3.12.7-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 OC 2GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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