[opensuse] ogv Video editing question
I recorded a videotutorial usinf qt-recordMyDesktop. The file in in ogv. And damn - 10:04. I can't upload it to youtube bacause of 4 seconds. I tried to strip the file. And nothing works well: - cinelerra closes when opening the file - LiVES hangs when opening the file - OpenShot doesn't render - the rendering window is ok, I press render once - nothing happens. Next time - the window is disabled and my clip is plays. But after it finished I get no resulting file. - Kdeenlive WORKS! But I tried several output formats - all make very bad resulting file quality. Help!!! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
You might try this, it's worked for me in the past . . . edit in Kdenlive, then render in HDV or Raw DV. Use a high resolution to capture as much as possible from the source file. then . . . use Winff to convert it to .flv. You can edit the presets if you want to adjust any of the variables. Also, Winff doesn't seem to pickup on the kden sound - so just enter 44100 in the winff window for sample rate. good luck, Regis On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 02:14 +0200, arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
I recorded a videotutorial usinf qt-recordMyDesktop.
The file in in ogv. And damn - 10:04. I can't upload it to youtube bacause of 4 seconds.
I tried to strip the file.
And nothing works well:
- cinelerra closes when opening the file - LiVES hangs when opening the file - OpenShot doesn't render - the rendering window is ok, I press render once - nothing happens. Next time - the window is disabled and my clip is plays. But after it finished I get no resulting file. - Kdeenlive WORKS! But I tried several output formats - all make very bad resulting file quality.
Help!!!
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On 17/03/10 02:43, Regis Matejcik wrote:
You might try this, it's worked for me in the past . . .
edit in Kdenlive, then render in HDV or Raw DV. Use a high resolution to capture as much as possible from the source file.
then . . .
use Winff to convert it to .flv. You can edit the presets if you want to adjust any of the variables. Also, Winff doesn't seem to pickup on the kden sound - so just enter 44100 in the winff window for sample rate.
good luck,
Regis
Hi! Outputing to Raw DV fails in several seconds without any message. I tried to run it by scrip - no message, just "Aborted". Outputing to HDV (.m2t) created a huge file with bad quality. I'm frustrated. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 17/03/10 02:43, Regis Matejcik wrote:
You might try this, it's worked for me in the past . . .
edit in Kdenlive, then render in HDV or Raw DV. Use a high resolution to capture as much as possible from the source file.
then . . .
use Winff to convert it to .flv. You can edit the presets if you want to adjust any of the variables. Also, Winff doesn't seem to pickup on the kden sound - so just enter 44100 in the winff window for sample rate.
good luck,
Regis
I've managed to edit my ogv video. But the way is "through ass", as we say here. I didn't manage to get an acceptable result when exporting from Kdeenlive. So I switched to OpenShot. But OpenShot doesn't show few several frames of an ogv file. It's usually not a problem, but is very unpleasantly. So I had to convert my ogv file to avi using Devede. No quality is lost. Or almost no. After that I edited the avi file in Openshot. To export everything correctly I had some tortures on Openshot, clamped Openshots fingers in dors, make it listen to madonna and britney spears and so on. As a result, I persuaded it to render the resulting file in the right way. I have to mention, that my ogv file was 1216x960. So when exporting I had to choose project type HDV 1080 25p 1920x1080. These dimensions cover my video dimensions, so no quality loose. But I met another problem - audio codec. My exported vidoe files had no sound or corrupted sound at youtube.com, so I needed to set audio codec to libvorbis. I spent more then 48 hours trying to trim 4 seconds from my file. Agrh! Massaraksh! So my full algorith is: 1. Record my video using qt-recordMyDesktop. 2. Convert it to AVI using Devede. 3. Edit the AVI in OpenShot 4. Export it with such options in Advanced tab: - Project type: HDV 1080 25p 1920x1080 (maybe less dimensions if they cover your video dimensions) - Audio Settings:-> Audio Codec: libvorbis 5. Upload to youtube. кляті москалі...повбивав би! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 18/03/10 00:09, arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
I've managed to edit my ogv video. But the way is "through ass", as we say here.
I didn't manage to get an acceptable result when exporting from Kdeenlive. So I switched to OpenShot. But OpenShot doesn't show few several frames of an ogv file. It's usually not a problem, but is very unpleasantly. So I had to convert my ogv file to avi using Devede. No quality is lost. Or almost no. After that I edited the avi file in Openshot.
To export everything correctly I had some tortures on Openshot, clamped Openshots fingers in dors, make it listen to madonna and britney spears and so on. As a result, I persuaded it to render the resulting file in the right way.
I have to mention, that my ogv file was 1216x960. So when exporting I had to choose project type HDV 1080 25p 1920x1080. These dimensions cover my video dimensions, so no quality loose. But I met another problem - audio codec. My exported vidoe files had no sound or corrupted sound at youtube.com, so I needed to set audio codec to libvorbis. I spent more then 48 hours trying to trim 4 seconds from my file. Agrh! Massaraksh!
So my full algorith is: 1. Record my video using qt-recordMyDesktop. 2. Convert it to AVI using Devede. 3. Edit the AVI in OpenShot 4. Export it with such options in Advanced tab: - Project type: HDV 1080 25p 1920x1080 (maybe less dimensions if they cover your video dimensions) - Audio Settings:-> Audio Codec: libvorbis 5. Upload to youtube.
кляті москалі...повбивав би!
I know this isn't terribly helpful to you now but I find that trying to do encoding/demuxing/whatever is a LOT easier if you just go direct to the command line tools. All the GUIs are just frontends for these tools anyway. Look at: transcode ffmpeg mencoder (part of MPlayer) They have a ridiculous array of options and support every format under the sun. The GUIs tend not to expose their full capabilities. Both the editing (assuming it is just simple resizing/cutting) and encoding can be done with these tools. Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 18/03/10 14:41, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
I know this isn't terribly helpful to you now but I find that trying to do encoding/demuxing/whatever is a LOT easier if you just go direct to the command line tools. All the GUIs are just frontends for these tools anyway.
Look at: transcode ffmpeg mencoder (part of MPlayer)
They have a ridiculous array of options and support every format under the sun. The GUIs tend not to expose their full capabilities.
Both the editing (assuming it is just simple resizing/cutting) and encoding can be done with these tools.
Regards, Tejas
Thanks, but I can hardly imagine how I can cut something from command line if I don't see what I'm cutting. I'm not able to see a blodie in red scirt among a flow of charecters (-: -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 18/03/10 12:47, arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
On 18/03/10 14:41, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
I know this isn't terribly helpful to you now but I find that trying to do encoding/demuxing/whatever is a LOT easier if you just go direct to the command line tools. All the GUIs are just frontends for these tools anyway.
Look at: transcode ffmpeg mencoder (part of MPlayer)
They have a ridiculous array of options and support every format under the sun. The GUIs tend not to expose their full capabilities.
Both the editing (assuming it is just simple resizing/cutting) and encoding can be done with these tools.
Regards, Tejas
Thanks, but I can hardly imagine how I can cut something from command line if I don't see what I'm cutting. I'm not able to see a blodie in red scirt among a flow of charecters (-:
It's a bit painful, but basically play the video in any player, write down the exact times of the bits you want to cut (hh:mm:ss.00 - hh:mm:ss.00), and then pass those as the appropriate command line arguments to the encoder. Might take some trial and error to get right. Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 18/03/10 14:57, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
Thanks, but I can hardly imagine how I can cut something from command line if I don't see what I'm cutting. I'm not able to see a blodie in red scirt among a flow of charecters (-:
It's a bit painful, but basically play the video in any player, write down the exact times of the bits you want to cut (hh:mm:ss.00 - hh:mm:ss.00), and then pass those as the appropriate command line arguments to the encoder. Might take some trial and error to get right.
Regards, Tejas
Ok. I noted your mail adreess. When needed, I will ask you to help. (-: -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 03/18/2010 08:47 AM, arygroup@gmail.com pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On 18/03/10 14:41, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
I know this isn't terribly helpful to you now but I find that trying to do encoding/demuxing/whatever is a LOT easier if you just go direct to the command line tools. All the GUIs are just frontends for these tools anyway.
Look at: transcode ffmpeg mencoder (part of MPlayer)
They have a ridiculous array of options and support every format under the sun. The GUIs tend not to expose their full capabilities.
Both the editing (assuming it is just simple resizing/cutting) and encoding can be done with these tools.
Regards, Tejas
Thanks, but I can hardly imagine how I can cut something from command line if I don't see what I'm cutting. I'm not able to see a blodie in red scirt among a flow of charecters (-:
Have you tries using avidemux? I use the gtk version to cut frames from videos. It lets you scan frame by frame with a video window so that you know exactly what to cut. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 14:47 +0200, arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
On 18/03/10 14:41, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
I know this isn't terribly helpful to you now but I find that trying to do encoding/demuxing/whatever is a LOT easier if you just go direct to the command line tools. All the GUIs are just frontends for these tools anyway.
Look at: transcode ffmpeg mencoder (part of MPlayer)
They have a ridiculous array of options and support every format under the sun. The GUIs tend not to expose their full capabilities.
Both the editing (assuming it is just simple resizing/cutting) and encoding can be done with these tools.
Regards, Tejas
Thanks, but I can hardly imagine how I can cut something from command line if I don't see what I'm cutting. I'm not able to see a blodie in red scirt among a flow of charecters (-:
I think the above suggestion could be helpful in simplifying your "algorithm" though. You can probably find a format that Openshot handles more easily using ffmpeg to convert your ogv prior to editing. It also will probably cure the sound issue during conversion. You can use ffmpeg via a gui front end. The most popular gui front end for ffmpeg is Winff. There are dozens of pre-sets for conversions and the presets are editable - so you don't have to be a command line guru to fine tune frame rate, bit rate, res, etc. So your algorithm could look something like this So my full algorith is:
1. Record my video using qt-recordMyDesktop. 2. Convert it to "most OpenShot freindly format" using WinFF. 3. Edit the Video in OpenShot 4. Render the result in Openshot (best suitable format) 5. Convert rendered result with WinFF (set resolution, format, audio, etc.) to .flv or other you tube freindly format.
Admittedly linux video editing can be challenging, but it's getting better. Also, OpenShot just released version 1.1 which seems to be a big improvement over 1.0. Oh yeah, one other unsolicited suggestion. You might try shutting off the sound recording on "record my desktop" and recording your audio on a separate mp3 track. Most cheap mp3 players and even phones will allow you to record several minutes of audio. Its pretty easy to match up the audio, and also that allows you to edit the audio track separate from the video. - In my experiences, it also makes Record my Desktop about twice as responsive. But . . . At least you got it done ! good luck Regis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 18/03/10 22:01, Regis Matejcik wrote:
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 14:47 +0200, arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
On 18/03/10 14:41, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
I know this isn't terribly helpful to you now but I find that trying to do encoding/demuxing/whatever is a LOT easier if you just go direct to the command line tools. All the GUIs are just frontends for these tools anyway.
Look at: transcode ffmpeg mencoder (part of MPlayer)
They have a ridiculous array of options and support every format under the sun. The GUIs tend not to expose their full capabilities.
Both the editing (assuming it is just simple resizing/cutting) and encoding can be done with these tools.
Regards, Tejas
Thanks, but I can hardly imagine how I can cut something from command line if I don't see what I'm cutting. I'm not able to see a blodie in red scirt among a flow of charecters (-:
I think the above suggestion could be helpful in simplifying your "algorithm" though. You can probably find a format that Openshot handles more easily using ffmpeg to convert your ogv prior to editing. It also will probably cure the sound issue during conversion.
You can use ffmpeg via a gui front end. The most popular gui front end for ffmpeg is Winff. There are dozens of pre-sets for conversions and the presets are editable - so you don't have to be a command line guru to fine tune frame rate, bit rate, res, etc.
So your algorithm could look something like this
So my full algorith is:
1. Record my video using qt-recordMyDesktop. 2. Convert it to "most OpenShot freindly format" using WinFF. 3. Edit the Video in OpenShot 4. Render the result in Openshot (best suitable format) 5. Convert rendered result with WinFF (set resolution, format, audio, etc.) to .flv or other you tube freindly format.
Admittedly linux video editing can be challenging, but it's getting better. Also, OpenShot just released version 1.1 which seems to be a big improvement over 1.0.
Oh yeah, one other unsolicited suggestion. You might try shutting off the sound recording on "record my desktop" and recording your audio on a separate mp3 track. Most cheap mp3 players and even phones will allow you to record several minutes of audio. Its pretty easy to match up the audio, and also that allows you to edit the audio track separate from the video. - In my experiences, it also makes Record my Desktop about twice as responsive.
But . . .
At least you got it done !
good luck
Regis
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