[opensuse] off-list messages
I sent a couple of replies to - I thought - the mailing list, but not seeing them show up, I went to look in my sent folder and it appears that when I hit the "r" key on my keyboard, it sent them to individuals rather than the list. If anyone has received an off-list reply from me, I apologize for that. I have no idea what happened there. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 25 January 2009 16:33:41 Constantinos Maltezos wrote:
I sent a couple of replies to - I thought - the mailing list, but not seeing them show up, I went to look in my sent folder and it appears that when I hit the "r" key on my keyboard, it sent them to individuals rather than the list. If anyone has received an off-list reply from me, I apologize for that. I have no idea what happened there.
It's not you, it's your email client. Some handle list headers properly, and some don't. When I used Thunderbird, I had to either "reply all" and remove the private address, or "reply" and then type in the list address. Using KMail (which I recommend highly, by the way), when I reply to a list message, it goes to the list. If I reply to a private message, it goes to the private address. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 25 January 2009 6:55:51 pm Jerry Houston wrote:
On Sunday 25 January 2009 16:33:41 Constantinos Maltezos wrote:
I sent a couple of replies to - I thought - the mailing list, but not seeing them show up, I went to look in my sent folder and it appears that when I hit the "r" key on my keyboard, it sent them to individuals rather than the list. If anyone has received an off-list reply from me, I apologize for that. I have no idea what happened there.
It's not you, it's your email client. Some handle list headers properly, and some don't.
When I used Thunderbird, I had to either "reply all" and remove the private address, or "reply" and then type in the list address. Using KMail (which I recommend highly, by the way), when I reply to a list message, it goes to the list. If I reply to a private message, it goes to the private address.
That's what I'm used to. I use KMail and just now, to respond to this, I hit "r". And it worked. I think this is like in the movies where they try to trick someone into going crazy and my software is conspiring against me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jerry Houston wrote:
On Sunday 25 January 2009 16:33:41 Constantinos Maltezos wrote:
I sent a couple of replies to - I thought - the mailing list, but not seeing them show up, I went to look in my sent folder and it appears that when I hit the "r" key on my keyboard, it sent them to individuals rather than the list. If anyone has received an off-list reply from me, I apologize for that. I have no idea what happened there.
It's not you, it's your email client. Some handle list headers properly, and some don't.
When I used Thunderbird, I had to either "reply all" and remove the private address, or "reply" and then type in the list address. Using KMail (which I recommend highly, by the way), when I reply to a list message, it goes to the list. If I reply to a private message, it goes to the private address.
If you are using Thunderbird one needs (if required that is) to amend a control line in the Config Editor which will cause a reply to a list be only addressed to the list and without any CCs. When I find that line I'll post what that is -- but this info was posted in this forum a while back so you can do a search in the archives if you want. Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 25 January 2009 17:23:28 Basil Chupin wrote:
If you are using Thunderbird one needs (if required that is) to amend a control line in the Config Editor which will cause a reply to a list be only addressed to the list and without any CCs.
When I find that line I'll post what that is -- but this info was posted in this forum a while back so you can do a search in the archives if you want.
Perhaps someone else would like to know - don't bother looking for it for me. I prefer KMail for so many reasons, that wouldn't be enough to get me using Thunderbird again. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jerry Houston wrote:
On Sunday 25 January 2009 17:23:28 Basil Chupin wrote:
If you are using Thunderbird one needs (if required that is) to amend a control line in the Config Editor which will cause a reply to a list be only addressed to the list and without any CCs.
When I find that line I'll post what that is -- but this info was posted in this forum a while back so you can do a search in the archives if you want.
Perhaps someone else would like to know - don't bother looking for it for me.
Possibly just as well as I am having trouble finding the info on how to make that alteration.
I prefer KMail for so many reasons, that wouldn't be enough to get me using Thunderbird again.
Horses for courses, as they say :-) . Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Jerry Houston wrote:
On Sunday 25 January 2009 17:23:28 Basil Chupin wrote:
If you are using Thunderbird one needs (if required that is) to amend a control line in the Config Editor which will cause a reply to a list be only addressed to the list and without any CCs.
When I find that line I'll post what that is -- but this info was posted in this forum a while back so you can do a search in the archives if you want.
Perhaps someone else would like to know - don't bother looking for it for me.
Possibly just as well as I am having trouble finding the info on how to make that alteration.
Edit--->Prefs-->Advanced-->Config Editor Mailnews.clobber_list_reply (set to true) -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ken Schneider wrote:
Basil Chupin pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Jerry Houston wrote:
On Sunday 25 January 2009 17:23:28 Basil Chupin wrote:
If you are using Thunderbird one needs (if required that is) to amend a control line in the Config Editor which will cause a reply to a list be only addressed to the list and without any CCs.
When I find that line I'll post what that is -- but this info was posted in this forum a while back so you can do a search in the archives if you want.
Perhaps someone else would like to know - don't bother looking for it for me.
Possibly just as well as I am having trouble finding the info on how to make that alteration.
Edit--->Prefs-->Advanced-->Config Editor
Mailnews.clobber_list_reply (set to true)
Thank you, Ken! Now permanently written into my "little black book". Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ken Schneider schreef:
Basil Chupin pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Jerry Houston wrote:
On Sunday 25 January 2009 17:23:28 Basil Chupin wrote:
If you are using Thunderbird one needs (if required that is) to amend a control line in the Config Editor which will cause a reply to a list be only addressed to the list and without any CCs.
When I find that line I'll post what that is -- but this info was posted in this forum a while back so you can do a search in the archives if you want.
Perhaps someone else would like to know - don't bother looking for it for me.
Possibly just as well as I am having trouble finding the info on how to make that alteration.
Edit--->Prefs-->Advanced-->Config Editor
Mailnews.clobber_list_reply (set to true)
Ok, now I see it. I have to use "reply all". Thank you, every day that I learn something new is a day not wasted. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Basil Chupin wrote:
Jerry Houston wrote:
It's not you, it's your email client. Some handle list headers properly, and some don't.
When I used Thunderbird, I had to either "reply all" and remove the private address, or "reply" and then type in the list address. Using KMail (which I recommend highly, by the way), when I reply to a list message, it goes to the list. If I reply to a private message, it goes to the private address.
If you are using Thunderbird one needs (if required that is) to amend a control line in the Config Editor which will cause a reply to a list be only addressed to the list and without any CCs.
There is a perfectly good Thunderbird Plugin for this purpose, see.. http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension so no need for the above in most scenarios.... - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl9fGUACgkQasN0sSnLmgLK5QCg9bI1EGTL9i/KLKNFtTmxTe6v ExAAnRmGO7DXz71IyNxKsaum3qBGbzAb =JM35 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
G T Smith wrote:
Jerry Houston wrote:
It's not you, it's your email client. Some handle list headers
When I used Thunderbird, I had to either "reply all" and remove the
Basil Chupin wrote: properly, and some don't. private address, or "reply" and then type in the list address. Using KMail (which I recommend highly, by the way), when I reply to a list message, it goes to the list. If I reply to a private message, it goes to the private address.
If you are using Thunderbird one needs (if required that is) to amend a control line in the Config Editor which will cause a reply to a list be only addressed to the list and without any CCs.
There is a perfectly good Thunderbird Plugin for this purpose, see..
http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension
so no need for the above in most scenarios....
Thanks for this and I have bookmarked the above. I developed some doubts about the extension mentioned there when I read what's on that page especially where it's stated that oS now doesn't need this extension. The page is also rather dated. There is an experimental extension called Reply To Mail List on the Mozilla site. The "fix" which I have in place now is working well but I'll keep an eye on the Mozilla site and try out this extension when it comes out of the experimental stage. Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Basil Chupin wrote:
G T Smith wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Jerry Houston wrote:
There is a perfectly good Thunderbird Plugin for this purpose, see..
http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension
so no need for the above in most scenarios....
Thanks for this and I have bookmarked the above. I developed some doubts about the extension mentioned there when I read what's on that page especially where it's stated that oS now doesn't need this extension. The page is also rather dated.
There is an experimental extension called Reply To Mail List on the Mozilla site. The "fix" which I have in place now is working well but I'll keep an eye on the Mozilla site and try out this extension when it comes out of the experimental stage.
Ciao.
I just used it to reply to this mail :-) I have been using 0.2.0 (not 0.3.0) for some time now without problems. 0.2.x requires the Enigmail or Menenhy extension to be installed but as the this requirement is already met in the SuSE version of Thunderbird this is not a major problem.... - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl+3WQACgkQasN0sSnLmgJMigCfc+7DDIxY6fNDUx/Qt2mgULmh XCoAoO/U8cxyC4LUowuaDT5VSTuNJqCR =eQgI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
G T Smith pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Jerry Houston wrote:
It's not you, it's your email client. Some handle list headers properly, and some don't.
When I used Thunderbird, I had to either "reply all" and remove the private address, or "reply" and then type in the list address. Using KMail (which I recommend highly, by the way), when I reply to a list message, it goes to the list. If I reply to a private message, it goes to the private address.
If you are using Thunderbird one needs (if required that is) to amend a control line in the Config Editor which will cause a reply to a list be only addressed to the list and without any CCs.
There is a perfectly good Thunderbird Plugin for this purpose, see..
http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension
so no need for the above in most scenarios....
This plugin makes Thunderbird useless if you receive an email with attachments. That's why I stopped using it. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
G T Smith schreef:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Jerry Houston wrote:
It's not you, it's your email client. Some handle list headers properly, and some don't.
When I used Thunderbird, I had to either "reply all" and remove the private address, or "reply" and then type in the list address. Using KMail (which I recommend highly, by the way), when I reply to a list message, it goes to the list. If I reply to a private message, it goes to the private address.
If you are using Thunderbird one needs (if required that is) to amend a control line in the Config Editor which will cause a reply to a list be only addressed to the list and without any CCs.
There is a perfectly good Thunderbird Plugin for this purpose, see..
http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension
so no need for the above in most scenarios....
Are you sure it is perfectly good? I remember a reply-to-list plugin, that made loading attachments larger than (say) 100K dog slow. But I'm not sure if it was this one. Regards, -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jos van Kan wrote:
G T Smith schreef:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Jerry Houston wrote:
It's not you, it's your email client. Some handle list headers properly, and some don't.
When I used Thunderbird, I had to either "reply all" and remove the private address, or "reply" and then type in the list address. Using KMail (which I recommend highly, by the way), when I reply to a list message, it goes to the list. If I reply to a private message, it goes to the private address.
If you are using Thunderbird one needs (if required that is) to amend a control line in the Config Editor which will cause a reply to a list be only addressed to the list and without any CCs.
There is a perfectly good Thunderbird Plugin for this purpose, see..
http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension
so no need for the above in most scenarios....
Are you sure it is perfectly good? I remember a reply-to-list plugin, that made loading attachments larger than (say) 100K dog slow. But I'm not sure if it was this one.
Hmmm - I've complained about the slowness in loading messages with large attachments in Thunderbird since I switched from KMail a few months back. However, I never associated it with the reply to list plugin. I have both that plugin and the keyconfig plugin so I can either hit a button to reply to list or press L on my keyboard. -- kai Wir werden immer laut durchs Leben zieh'n, jeden Tag in jedem Jahr... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte schreef:
Jos van Kan wrote:
G T Smith schreef:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Jerry Houston wrote:
It's not you, it's your email client. Some handle list headers properly, and some don't.
When I used Thunderbird, I had to either "reply all" and remove the private address, or "reply" and then type in the list address. Using KMail (which I recommend highly, by the way), when I reply to a list message, it goes to the list. If I reply to a private message, it goes to the private address.
If you are using Thunderbird one needs (if required that is) to amend a control line in the Config Editor which will cause a reply to a list be only addressed to the list and without any CCs.
There is a perfectly good Thunderbird Plugin for this purpose, see..
http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension
so no need for the above in most scenarios....
Are you sure it is perfectly good? I remember a reply-to-list plugin, that made loading attachments larger than (say) 100K dog slow. But I'm not sure if it was this one.
Hmmm -
I've complained about the slowness in loading messages with large attachments in Thunderbird since I switched from KMail a few months back. However, I never associated it with the reply to list plugin.
I have both that plugin and the keyconfig plugin so I can either hit a button to reply to list or press L on my keyboard.
I find the config change more elegant than a plugin. Config change = one variable from false to true = 1 byte changed Plugin = several kilobytes. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Amedee Van Gasse fired up the Etch-A-Sketch and carefully scrawled:
Kai Ponte schreef:
I've complained about the slowness in loading messages with large attachments in Thunderbird since I switched from KMail a few months back. However, I never associated it with the reply to list plugin.
I have both that plugin and the keyconfig plugin so I can either hit a button to reply to list or press L on my keyboard.
I find the config change more elegant than a plugin. Config change = one variable from false to true = 1 byte changed Plugin = several kilobytes.
?? How is that to do with off-list messages? -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.filesite.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
Amedee Van Gasse fired up the Etch-A-Sketch and carefully scrawled:
Kai Ponte schreef:
I've complained about the slowness in loading messages with large attachments in Thunderbird since I switched from KMail a few months back. However, I never associated it with the reply to list plugin.
I have both that plugin and the keyconfig plugin so I can either hit a button to reply to list or press L on my keyboard.
I find the config change more elegant than a plugin. Config change = one variable from false to true = 1 byte changed Plugin = several kilobytes.
??
How is that to do with off-list messages?
You don't appear to have been following the thread. A question was raised about how to stop replies going to the list AND to the OP (eg) - the latter being the "off-list" messages. I suggested that if one is using T-Bird then there is a line in the Config file which can be altered but because I couldn't find the exact details Ken provided the exact details. Then Graham came in with the info that there is a plugin which will do same -- and it would appear that it is this plugin that you may be using and which causes hassles when 'largish' files are attached to an e-mail. Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin wrote:
Kai Ponte wrote:
Amedee Van Gasse fired up the Etch-A-Sketch and carefully scrawled:
Kai Ponte schreef:
I've complained about the slowness in loading messages with large attachments in Thunderbird since I switched from KMail a few months back. However, I never associated it with the reply to list plugin.
I have both that plugin and the keyconfig plugin so I can either hit a button to reply to list or press L on my keyboard.
I find the config change more elegant than a plugin. Config change = one variable from false to true = 1 byte changed Plugin = several kilobytes.
??
How is that to do with off-list messages?
You don't appear to have been following the thread. A question was raised about how to stop replies going to the list AND to the OP (eg) - the latter being the "off-list" messages. I suggested that if one is using T-Bird then there is a line in the Config file which can be altered but because I couldn't find the exact details Ken provided the exact details. Then Graham came in with the info that there is a plugin which will do same -- and it would appear that it is this plugin that you may be using and which causes hassles when 'largish' files are attached to an e-mail.
Ciao.
Actually I was following - I was just trying to figure out how a configuration file change being proposed as more elegant was do do with off-list messages. I understand now. All is well. Back to google earth. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.filesite.org bis zum bitteren Ende -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, January 27, 2009 04:27, Kai Ponte wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Kai Ponte wrote:
Amedee Van Gasse fired up the Etch-A-Sketch and carefully scrawled:
I find the config change more elegant than a plugin. Config change = one variable from false to true = 1 byte changed Plugin = several kilobytes.
??
How is that to do with off-list messages?
You don't appear to have been following the thread. A question was raised about how to stop replies going to the list AND to the OP (eg) - the latter being the "off-list" messages. I suggested that if one is using T-Bird then there is a line in the Config file which can be altered but because I couldn't find the exact details Ken provided the exact details. Then Graham came in with the info that there is a plugin which will do same -- and it would appear that it is this plugin that you may be using and which causes hassles when 'largish' files are attached to an e-mail.
Ciao.
Actually I was following - I was just trying to figure out how a configuration file change being proposed as more elegant was do do with off-list messages.
Because small is beautiful.
I understand now.
All is well.
Back to google earth.
Have fun! :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Amedee Van Gasse wrote:
Kai Ponte schreef:
Jos van Kan wrote:
I have both that plugin and the keyconfig plugin so I can either hit a button to reply to list or press L on my keyboard.
I find the config change more elegant than a plugin. Config change = one variable from false to true = 1 byte changed Plugin = several kilobytes.
Depends on your definition of elegant.. I get a nice option of Reply to List which I can choose (or not as the case may be)... the config option seems less flexible... - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl+3mcACgkQasN0sSnLmgKqVgCdEHMPHnk2A19UAO0lDN5rOTyw WQMAoL0M7/CNA5HdpeYJIcHXrSwxU2jC =3jpq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jos van Kan wrote:
G T Smith schreef:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Jerry Houston wrote:
It's not you, it's your email client. Some handle list headers properly, and some don't.
When I used Thunderbird, I had to either "reply all" and remove the private address, or "reply" and then type in the list address. Using KMail (which I recommend highly, by the way), when I reply to a list message, it goes to the list. If I reply to a private message, it goes to the private address.
If you are using Thunderbird one needs (if required that is) to amend a control line in the Config Editor which will cause a reply to a list be only addressed to the list and without any CCs.
There is a perfectly good Thunderbird Plugin for this purpose, see..
http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension
so no need for the above in most scenarios....
Are you sure it is perfectly good? I remember a reply-to-list plugin, that made loading attachments larger than (say) 100K dog slow. But I'm not sure if it was this one.
Regards,
Never noticed this behaviour... but I am using earlier 0.2.x variant not 0.3.0 (I use IMAP so this 0.3.0 would be a bad idea)... - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl+3aUACgkQasN0sSnLmgJXwQCgzFEC0xBHRxRy1lIIzbFaYM/q ce0An12uOPFMNJWWxzYV/D74JGcTArBk =XDTW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 G T Smith wrote:
Jos van Kan wrote:
G T Smith schreef: Are you sure it is perfectly good? I remember a reply-to-list plugin, that made loading attachments larger than (say) 100K dog slow. But I'm not sure if it was this one.
Regards,
Never noticed this behaviour... but I am using earlier 0.2.x variant not 0.3.0 (I use IMAP so this 0.3.0 would be a bad idea)...
BTW, sending 100K attachments to a list I would regard as slightly anti-social at best... individually really only really acceptable if and only if you cannot put it somewhere others are in a position to access it from... (Group working with groupware has a purpose :-) ) - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl+4DcACgkQasN0sSnLmgLCFQCfZhwIZMcE/lKaBNLpWEq4eOtl u+8AnRMTrsdrui4X+bNTNKfy7oNSNx9J =c2Nt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
G T Smith wrote:
BTW, sending 100K attachments to a list I would regard as slightly anti-social at best... individually really only really acceptable if and only if you cannot put it somewhere others are in a position to access it from... (Group working with groupware has a purpose :-) )
100k attachments are nothing for me. I routinely send 1-5 mb attachments to my home computer. Whether it be code assemblies, large pdf documents, movies, zipped up proposals, it doesn't matter. I would never send same to the list and would hope the list server would bounce anything over - say - 50 k. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.filesite.org bis zum bitteren Ende -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
G T Smith wrote:
BTW, sending 100K attachments to a list I would regard as slightly anti-social at best... individually really only really acceptable if and only if you cannot put it somewhere others are in a position to access it from... (Group working with groupware has a purpose :-) )
100k attachments are nothing for me. I routinely send 1-5 mb attachments to my home computer. Whether it be code assemblies, large pdf documents, movies, zipped up proposals, it doesn't matter.
I would never send same to the list and would hope the list server would bounce anything over - say - 50 k.
Heh - replying to myself... I just got an email in Outlook (running under Crossover) with over eight megabytes in attachments. http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2009/20090127_email_attachments.jpg It wasn't a problem to open in Outlook, but Thunderbird completely bombed when opening. I did remove the "reply to list" feature. I've been looking (on google) for the config area to change to allow for reply to list and to use the L key to do it. Any ideas? -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.filesite.org bis zum bitteren Ende -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 01/28/2009 11:18 AM, Kai Ponte wrote:
I just got an email in Outlook (running under Crossover) with over eight megabytes in attachments.
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2009/20090127_email_attachments.jpg
It wasn't a problem to open in Outlook, but Thunderbird completely bombed when opening.
I did remove the "reply to list" feature. I've been looking (on google) for the config area to change to allow for reply to list and to use the L key to do it.
Any ideas?
Not by hitting L, but http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-11/msg03384.html will do it with the opensuse build by hitting Reply-All, which works exactly the same as Reply-to-List without the attachment slowness. Try it. ;-) -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 11.1 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Joe Morris wrote:
Not by hitting L, but http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-11/msg03384.html will do it with the opensuse build by hitting Reply-All, which works exactly the same as Reply-to-List without the attachment slowness. Try it. ;-)
Works! -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.filesite.org bis zum bitteren Ende -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Kai Ponte wrote:
Kai Ponte wrote:
G T Smith wrote:
Heh - replying to myself...
I just got an email in Outlook (running under Crossover) with over eight megabytes in attachments.
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2009/20090127_email_attachments.jpg
It wasn't a problem to open in Outlook, but Thunderbird completely bombed when opening.
Hmm... on a metered internet connection (e.g. GPRS) this could be a problem, it is amazing how these things accumulate if you allow them, and on a dialup link the sender would be very unpopular with the recipient.... As an ex-Mail server admin I can remember the 'polite' discussions one used to have with departmental secretaries which thought it a good idea to distribute several megs of departmental docs to all members of department by email... not funny at time... - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmAOyMACgkQasN0sSnLmgKkjgCeInrAh3tmpbXlpD3IeKrm5e7v XqYAoIIAoArs5WgNdiB2Ze235ln8RDlm =0mR+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
G T Smith wrote:
As an ex-Mail server admin I can remember the 'polite' discussions one used to have with departmental secretaries which thought it a good idea to distribute several megs of departmental docs to all members of department by email... not funny at time...
Heh - we get that all the time. My boss (departmental cio) has around 5,000 unread emails in his inbox last I checked. Add that to the 55,000 read emails - including all the various attachments - and you have one big mess. Let's face it - most people I've seen in the past ten years use Exchange/Groupwise as a document storage application. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.filesite.org bis zum bitteren Ende -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
Kai Ponte wrote:
G T Smith wrote:
BTW, sending 100K attachments to a list I would regard as slightly anti-social at best... individually really only really acceptable if and only if you cannot put it somewhere others are in a position to access it from... (Group working with groupware has a purpose :-) )
100k attachments are nothing for me. I routinely send 1-5 mb attachments to my home computer. Whether it be code assemblies, large pdf documents, movies, zipped up proposals, it doesn't matter.
I would never send same to the list and would hope the list server would bounce anything over - say - 50 k.
Heh - replying to myself...
I just got an email in Outlook (running under Crossover) with over eight megabytes in attachments.
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2009/20090127_email_attachments.jpg
It wasn't a problem to open in Outlook, but Thunderbird completely bombed when opening.
I did remove the "reply to list" feature. I've been looking (on google) for the config area to change to allow for reply to list and to use the L key to do it.
Any ideas?
Edit--->Prefs-->Advanced-->Config Editor Mailnews.clobber_list_reply (set to true) Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, January 26, 2009 01:55, Jerry Houston wrote:
When I used Thunderbird, I had to either "reply all" and remove the private address, or "reply" and then type in the list address.
I'm sure there must be an add-on for Thunderbird that gives you an additional "reply to list" button. -- Amedee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2009-01-25 at 18:33 -0600, Constantinos Maltezos wrote:
I sent a couple of replies to - I thought - the mailing list, but not seeing them show up, I went to look in my sent folder and it appears that when I hit the "r" key on my keyboard, it sent them to individuals rather than the list.
Intentional list behaviour >:-) As you are using kmail, just use the "l" key to reply on list. Maybe you have to confire first the folder. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkl9DSsACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VfLACgmHaH2SrFFx6w9blMw7bBgSfa srsAn3x82zReZiy6rDwOaFFinRNJ9vd7 =x7ig -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 25 January 2009 7:08:50 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2009-01-25 at 18:33 -0600, Constantinos Maltezos wrote:
I sent a couple of replies to - I thought - the mailing list, but not seeing them show up, I went to look in my sent folder and it appears that when I hit the "r" key on my keyboard, it sent them to individuals rather than the list.
Intentional list behaviour >:-)
As you are using kmail, just use the "l" key to reply on list. Maybe you have to confire first the folder.
Would you believe I let the mail from this and a couple of other lists just dump into my inbox? This is because if I put them into a different folder, I wind up not reading them regularly and they pile up. I'll try to remember to use that "l" key. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 25 January 2009 17:08:50 Carlos E. R. wrote:
As you are using kmail, just use the "l" key to reply on list. Maybe you have to confire first the folder.
I click Send, and it just works. However, I have folders for all my lists, and filter the list mail into those folders, so that may have something to do with it. Perhaps KMail replies to the list because of the folder into which it's been filtered. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
I sent a couple of replies to - I thought - the mailing list, but not seeing them show up, I went to look in my sent folder and it appears that when I hit the "r" key on my keyboard, it sent them to individuals rather than the list.
Intentional list behaviour >:-)
Is there a reason not to add a Reply-to header to the mails sent via the list, as many other lists do? I also find the current behavior a bit inconvenient... Pit -- Dr. Peter "Pit" Suetterlin http://www.astro.su.se/~pit Institute for Solar Physics Tel.: +34 922 405 590 (Spain) P.Suetterlin@royac.iac.es +46 8 5537 8507 (Sweden) Peter.Suetterlin@astro.su.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2009-01-26 at 10:52 +0100, Pit Suetterlin wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
I sent a couple of replies to - I thought - the mailing list, but not seeing them show up, I went to look in my sent folder and it appears that when I hit the "r" key on my keyboard, it sent them to individuals rather than the list.
Intentional list behaviour >:-)
Is there a reason not to add a Reply-to header to the mails sent via the list, as many other lists do? I also find the current behavior a bit inconvenient...
Read the faq - opensuse+help@opensuse.org Basically, that would be altering headers that belong to the sender user. Q2. Why do my replies go to the original poster and not the list? A2. We do not "munge" the mail headers by inserting a "Reply-To: suse-linux-e@suse.com" because it makes it more difficult subscribers to handle the mail the way they want to. Your mail client probably has a "reply" function as well as a "reply to all" or "reply to list" one; Please use the latter if you want you message to go to the list and not just to the original poster. Also, please don't complain about this on the list, it has been discussed many, many, many times in the past already. For background information see http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkl9k04ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WRkgCfQK2jVU1NstfjNj1+vCeEuqFB TdEAniOfl/PHLe+hm4Jh39+dsDc7QCb/ =mCFX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi Carlos, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Read the faq - opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Basically, that would be altering headers that belong to the sender user.
Oops. Thanks for the answer. So I'll live with it and shut up ;^> Pit PS: for mutt users it's Shift-L for reply-to-list -- Dr. Peter "Pit" Suetterlin http://www.astro.su.se/~pit Institute for Solar Physics Tel.: +34 922 405 590 (Spain) P.Suetterlin@royac.iac.es +46 8 5537 8507 (Sweden) Peter.Suetterlin@astro.su.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2009-01-26 at 13:54 +0100, Pit Suetterlin wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Read the faq - opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Basically, that would be altering headers that belong to the sender user.
Oops. Thanks for the answer. So I'll live with it and shut up ;^>
Welcome! We all have been there once ;-)
PS: for mutt users it's Shift-L for reply-to-list
And for those of us whose mail client doesn't have that function (Alpine,
for instance), we can use procmail to change the reply-to header:
:0f
* ^X-Mailinglist: opensuse
| /usr/bin/formail -bfi 'Reply-To: "OS-en"
I sent a couple of replies to - I thought - the mailing list, but not seeing them show up, I went to look in my sent folder and it appears that when I hit the "r" key on my keyboard, it sent them to individuals rather than the list. If anyone has received an off-list reply from me, I apologize for that. I have no idea what happened there. --
I've been doing this a bit recently too.. My bad.. damn outlook, forced upon me by employer </mutter> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Amedee Van Gasse -
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G T Smith -
Jerry Houston -
Joe Morris -
Jos van Kan -
Kai Ponte -
Ken Schneider -
Philip Dowie -
Pit Suetterlin