Re: [SLE] Bad advice, was: Wow, possible bad YAS update.
Usually, upgrades are good. Usually, upgrades were good, but, alas, *not always*. Leen
You got it, Leen! I guess I could have said it in the words you used, but I chose to go into a little more detail --but alas! not enough, yet!) so that people would realize I had treated the update issue seriously, rather than just saying something to be heard.
I have read through most of this thread (I think) so I'll pick this one to attach my comments to. I feel the need to rant... I have used strait rpm command line to update packages and yast[2]* I haven't used YOU, so I can't speak on that. And SuSE has done an excellent job through yast. there have been minimal issues. but I also tend to not blindly do my updates. if i see something that is important on a machine, i might skip that at first, run everything i don't so much care about, make sure everything works, and then slowly go through the upgrades for those things that i would like to insure stay running. that way as soon as i hit something that breaks i minimize the searching and tasks needed to make that work. But typically the packages to be updated are fairly specific. Do you look at them first? this can help *tremendously* when resolving upgrade issues. (in the following "I" represents not only me by my staff and all, but certainly includes myself): I have screwed up a lot of machines (when dealing with nearly 20k, at 3 different companies and 11 facilities, all run *slightly* differently, that can happen). I don't recall having the need to reinstall my whole OS because of it. I have screwed up kernel upgrades/libs/etc. you name it I have screwed it up. The Linux world has the willingness to let you know ahead of time what is being changed and why. It has the ability to track down exactly why things are screwed up, so you can fix that particular item. unlike some other OS providers that will give you a 100Meg upgrade for a 5meg application. in that case you can't be sure of exactly what has been altered. In yast, it'll give the version number and you can always get the files from the rpm, everything is there to let you track down the issue and squish it. do you buy a new car every time you hear a funky noise coming from the engine? -- ray http://www.redrum.org rcanfiel@blade.redrum.org "UNIX _IS_ user friendly, its just picky about who its friends are."
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