----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Mielke" To: "SuSE Linux List" Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] Making music...

Bruce Marshall wrote:

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On Friday 21 May 2004 07:16 am, Martin Mielke wrote:

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I don't use Windows neither... I've seen those programs on some friends' machines.

ReBirth (as pasted from its website http://www.propellerheads.se/): --- ReBirth 2.0.1 is the software reincarnation of two analog bassline synths and two classic drum machines. We've also thrown in a digital delay, a quad-input distortion unit, a compressor and an analog filter emulation unit, the PCF (Pattern Controlled Filter). All the quirks and subtle qualities of analog, combined with the convenience of modern computers (a minimum of cables, integration with your sequencer software, complete front panel automation, real-time audio streaming and much more). ---

There was a clone for Linux called ReBorn (http://www.deadvirgins.org.uk/reborn/index.html) but it's dead :-(

Martin

i havent heard abou ReBorn, but my brother LOVES eletronic music, specially the synth thing, and rebirth is really great! if ReBorn can do 50% of what rebirth do, is a really really ridiculous good looking software (for sinths), but, if does Marin is looking for sequencing / mixing software, well, take a look here, http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/linux/ into the first four categories, you may find what are you looking for.... but, to be more accurate, WHAT do you want do do with the sofware? sequencing? mixing? sampling? This information may give me more focus to ask my brother...

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*** Reply to message from Martin Mielke on Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:34:43 +0200***

Well, I just want to do (at least try to) what can be done with programs such as Rebirth...

Did I not read something somewhere recently that Suse is going to put out a release that is aimed at music proffessionals? Ssmall ( or any sized) studio types as well as oh, any musician now using a Mac... ;) It wouldn't be a bad niche to try and grab.. According to at least one interview Phil Collins did most of his last album in his home studio w/ a computer and a couple of programs, at least one of which was probably pro tools, but he didn't seem all that certain... just that he had "bits and pieces " of songs and lines that eventualy he managed to get put together w/ the other folks in his latest touring group. He said he never would have got the stuff finished if he hadn't just "got stuck in and figured out this computer stuff" Think of the non geek musicians who could turn out things like Santana's last album on their own... and think how that might affect , eventually, the way people get paid for thier work on those projects... especially if they aren't having to pay the recording company for the "studio time" to put the damned things together... even if they later decide it's all cr@pola and they have to start over. They still have to pay the studio time... -- j -- nemo me impune lacessit it's just an afterthought; okay ? : Marijuana is nature's way of saying "high".

Check out this article http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8275095591.html B-) On Wednesday 09 June 2004 10:36 am, Martin Mielke wrote:

Hi there,

jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:

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*** Reply to message from Martin Mielke on Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:34:43 +0200***

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Well, I just want to do (at least try to) what can be done with programs such as Rebirth...

Did I not read something somewhere recently that Suse is going to put out a release that is aimed at music proffessionals?

I wish it was true... but IMHO from what I've seen there aren't mature enough music programs for (non-)professional musicians. The best musician-oriented application on Linux is still some steps behind the "worst-to-medium-class" under Windows... I feel there's a hole in this Linux field.

I haven't got the time and resources to test some Windows programs and their counterparts under Linux, such as ProTools vs. ProTux, Rebirth vs. Reborn, etc but I guess that software manufacturers still don't have in mind to target the Linux market as a source for professional musicians... and that's a pitty, if I may say it.

The same applies to MP3-mixing and so on...

Anyway... if somebody finds nice applications, please keep us posted.

Martin

On Wednesday 09 June 2004 13:13, Martin Mielke wrote:

Brad Bourn wrote:

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Check out this article

http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8275095591.html

B-)

Interesting but not what I'm looking for...

Thanks anyway

Yes, I would agree - things simply aren't that mature in Linux for music professionals - certainly when you start comparing against programs like SX and it's competition. However, having watched, first hand, the visual FX market on Linux moving from a hacker's curiosity to one of the primary OS's in the business, anything's possible down the line. I would mention, though, that VFX requires a steady stream of experienced technical support staff to keep things moving, indeed I think this is what pushed Linux to the forefront, but music nowadays seems to be increasingly becoming about one person behind a midi controller. There may not be the incentive for people to leave their Macs and PCs to do music. I'd be first in line if it were to happen, though. :) Cheers, J.C. -- John Coldrick www.axyzfx.com Axyz Animation Houdini/Renderman/Discreet 425 Adelaide St W 416-504-0425 Toronto, ON Canada jc@axyzfx.com M5V 1S4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "I like work ... I can sit and watch it for hours."

Martin Mielke wrote:

Hi there,

jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:

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*** Reply to message from Martin Mielke on Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:34:43 +0200***

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Well, I just want to do (at least try to) what can be done with programs such as Rebirth...

Did I not read something somewhere recently that Suse is going to put out a release that is aimed at music proffessionals?

I wish it was true... but IMHO from what I've seen there aren't mature enough music programs for (non-)professional musicians. The best musician-oriented application on Linux is still some steps behind the "worst-to-medium-class" under Windows... I feel there's a hole in this Linux field.

I haven't got the time and resources to test some Windows programs and their counterparts under Linux, such as ProTools vs. ProTux, Rebirth vs. Reborn, etc but I guess that software manufacturers still don't have in mind to target the Linux market as a source for professional musicians... and that's a pitty, if I may say it.

The same applies to MP3-mixing and so on...

Anyway... if somebody finds nice applications, please keep us posted.

Martin

I haven't been paying too much attention, but I've come across many Linux music apps, some places to look www.google.com/linux, http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/linux/COMPUTER_AIDED_MUSIC/, http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/linux/ Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer ===== LINUX ONLY USED HERE =====