[opensuse] configure fonts in KMail
I thought I could configure font sizes from the configure menu in KMail, but everything is grayed out. Seems like I did this before, but have forgotten how. Help! Thanx! --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 01:43, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I thought I could configure font sizes from the configure menu in KMail, but everything is grayed out. Seems like I did this before, but have forgotten how. Help! Thanx!
Yup, I get that too when I uncheck the "Use custom fonts" checkbox. It's at the top of the KMail "Settings" -> "Appearence" -> "Fonts"-tab. Cheers, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 01:43, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I thought I could configure font sizes from the configure menu in KMail, but everything is grayed out. Seems like I did this before, but have forgotten how. Help! Thanx!
Yup, I get that too when I uncheck the "Use custom fonts" checkbox. It's at the top of the KMail "Settings" -> "Appearence" -> "Fonts"-tab.
Cheers,
Leen OK, I did that. It makes the Re From and To text big and readable, but does nothing to the actual text of the message, which is where I'm really having
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 20:21, Leendert Meyer wrote: the problem. I'm using a 19" CRT Trinitron, which has good resolution, but the characters are rather tiny. That's also true of an outgoing message, like this one. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 03:06, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 20:21, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 01:43, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I thought I could configure font sizes from the configure menu in KMail, but everything is grayed out. Seems like I did this before, but have forgotten how. Help! Thanx!
Yup, I get that too when I uncheck the "Use custom fonts" checkbox. It's at the top of the KMail "Settings" -> "Appearence" -> "Fonts"-tab.
OK, I did that. It makes the Re From and To text big and readable, but does nothing to the actual text of the message, which is where I'm really having the problem. I'm using a 19" CRT Trinitron, which has good resolution, but the characters are rather tiny. That's also true of an outgoing message, like this one.
For each part-of-window do: select part-of-window with "Apply to"-combobox, select font, font-style, and font-size; After changing all the parts-of-window you wish, click [OK]. That should do it. Cheers, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 21:36, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 03:06, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 20:21, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 01:43, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I thought I could configure font sizes from the configure menu in KMail, but everything is grayed out. Seems like I did this before, but have forgotten how. Help! Thanx!
Yup, I get that too when I uncheck the "Use custom fonts" checkbox. It's at the top of the KMail "Settings" -> "Appearence" -> "Fonts"-tab.
OK, I did that. It makes the Re From and To text big and readable, but does nothing to the actual text of the message, which is where I'm really having the problem. I'm using a 19" CRT Trinitron, which has good resolution, but the characters are rather tiny. That's also true of an outgoing message, like this one.
For each part-of-window do: select part-of-window with "Apply to"-combobox, select font, font-style, and font-size;
After changing all the parts-of-window you wish, click [OK].
That should do it.
Cheers,
Leen Hi, Leen--
There does not seem to be such a "part of windows" selection in 9.3. I tried everything I could think of, but this message (and your original answer) always comes out in very small print. Altho I did see a section that called for "message list" and "message body" and some other stuff, but whatever I feed in there does not seem to have any effect. I could really use a bigger typeface--this is a bit difficult on my 69 year old eyes. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 13 November 2006 20:06, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Yup, I get that too when I uncheck the "Use custom fonts" checkbox.
OK, I did that. It makes the Re From and To text big and readable, but does nothing to the actual text of the message, which is where I'm really having the problem. I'm using a 19" CRT Trinitron, which has good resolution, but the characters are rather tiny. That's also true of an outgoing message, like this one.
Use the menu under the "use custom fonts" checkbox to select where you want your settings to be applied. -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER@VISI.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 23:00, Jay C Vollmer wrote:
On Monday 13 November 2006 20:06, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Yup, I get that too when I uncheck the "Use custom fonts" checkbox.
OK, I did that. It makes the Re From and To text big and readable, but
does
nothing to the actual text of the message, which is where I'm really
having
the problem. I'm using a 19" CRT Trinitron, which has good resolution,
but
the characters are rather tiny. That's also true of an outgoing message, like this one.
Use the menu under the "use custom fonts" checkbox to select where you want your settings to be applied.
-- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER@VISI.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE
Well, it's partway there. Now I have good sized fonts _sometimes_ but definitely not always. Here I'm getting good fonts, I could even use a smaller font, but not a terribly smaller font, but it doesn't seem to follow to the next email, or even to re-opening the old email. Why isn't there a way to make _all_ the fonts in KMail the same size, and keep them that way forever? --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 03:06, Doug McGarrett said:
OK, I did that. It makes the Re From and To text big and readable, but does nothing to the actual text of the message, which is where I'm really having the problem. I'm using a 19" CRT Trinitron, which has good resolution, but the characters are rather tiny. That's also true of an outgoing message, like this one.
Also, make sure your monitor's dimensions are set correctly in your X settings (sax2). X uses those to calculate what DPI your display has, and if it guesses too low, your fonts will appear too small. In 10.2 we've added a feature to the KControl->Appearance->Fonts config to allow you to hardwire a DPI, for people where SaX/xorg.conf is outside their control, or just too scary, so you could experiment with that too. Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 December 2006 08:30, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 03:06, Doug McGarrett said:
OK, I did that. It makes the Re From and To text big and readable, but does nothing to the actual text of the message, which is where I'm really having the problem. I'm using a 19" CRT Trinitron, which has good resolution, but the characters are rather tiny. That's also true of an outgoing message, like this one.
Also, make sure your monitor's dimensions are set correctly in your X settings (sax2). X uses those to calculate what DPI your display has, and if it guesses too low, your fonts will appear too small.
In 10.2 we've added a feature to the KControl->Appearance->Fonts config to allow you to hardwire a DPI, for people where SaX/xorg.conf is outside their control, or just too scary, so you could experiment with that too.
Will It's weird. When I hit "reply" I get a font I can read easily. It's just the incoming message and the outgoing email that is in microfont. I believe the monitor is set correctly. I will open sax2 and see what happens. I don't have 10.2 and won't. If M/S hasn't killed SuSE by 10.3, I will buy that.
--doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 15 December 2006 02:22, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On Thursday 14 December 2006 08:30, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 03:06, Doug McGarrett said:
OK, I did that. It makes the Re From and To text big and readable, but does nothing to the actual text of the message, which is where I'm really having the problem. I'm using a 19" CRT Trinitron, which has good resolution, but the characters are rather tiny. That's also true of an outgoing message, like this one.
Also, make sure your monitor's dimensions are set correctly in your X settings (sax2). X uses those to calculate what DPI your display has, and if it guesses too low, your fonts will appear too small.
In 10.2 we've added a feature to the KControl->Appearance->Fonts config to allow you to hardwire a DPI, for people where SaX/xorg.conf is outside their control, or just too scary, so you could experiment with that too.
Will
It's weird. When I hit "reply" I get a font I can read easily. It's just the incoming message and the outgoing email that is in microfont.
"incoming message"??? "outgoing email"??? I'm guessing you mean message body and quoted text?
I believe the monitor is set correctly. I will open sax2 and see what happens. I don't have 10.2 and won't. If M/S hasn't killed SuSE by 10.3, I will buy that.
If the general font-size of the KDE-menu's and other applications is good, then you only need to change the size of the message body and quoted text. The size of the Message body is set by selecting "Message Body" in the Appearence -> Fonts -> "Apply to:" combobox (remember red circle?), and subsequently choosing a larger font size. The quoted text initially appears smaller that the rest of the message body. Uncheck the "Use smaller font for quoted text"-checkbox on Appearence -> "Message Window". Cheers, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 December 2006 23:02, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Friday 15 December 2006 02:22, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On Thursday 14 December 2006 08:30, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 03:06, Doug McGarrett said:
OK, I did that. It makes the Re From and To text big and readable, but does nothing to the actual text of the message, which is where I'm really having the problem. I'm using a 19" CRT Trinitron, which has good resolution, but the characters are rather tiny. That's also true of an outgoing message, like this one.
Also, make sure your monitor's dimensions are set correctly in your X settings (sax2). X uses those to calculate what DPI your display has, and if it guesses too low, your fonts will appear too small.
In 10.2 we've added a feature to the KControl->Appearance->Fonts config to allow you to hardwire a DPI, for people where SaX/xorg.conf is outside their control, or just too scary, so you could experiment with that too.
Will
It's weird. When I hit "reply" I get a font I can read easily. It's just the incoming message and the outgoing email that is in microfont.
"incoming message"??? "outgoing email"???
I'm guessing you mean message body and quoted text?
I believe the monitor is set correctly. I will open sax2 and see what happens. I don't have 10.2 and won't. If M/S hasn't killed SuSE by 10.3, I will buy that.
If the general font-size of the KDE-menu's and other applications is good, then you only need to change the size of the message body and quoted text.
The size of the Message body is set by selecting "Message Body" in the Appearence -> Fonts -> "Apply to:" combobox (remember red circle?), and subsequently choosing a larger font size.
The quoted text initially appears smaller that the rest of the message body. Uncheck the "Use smaller font for quoted text"-checkbox on Appearence -> "Message Window".
Cheers,
Leen
Well, it doesn't work that way. What I mean is, I guess what you call the "message body" i.e., what appears on the monitor when you access an email and try to read it, and what I mean has nothing to do with "quoted text" but what I write when I create an email. It turns out that when I _reply_ to an email, as I am doing now, the text is a nice readable size. Maybe that's what _you_ mean by "quoted text." I guess I managed to modify KMail to do that much, but I can't seem to get the _incoming mail text_ to a readable size. I bet this comes up on your screen in a fairly good sized font. But if I just sent you a message without it being a reply, it would come up on my screen in half the height and width, just as the incoming mail does. BTW, there does not seem to be any way to check or uncheck "use smaller font for quoted text" in 9.3, and I would not want it to do so anyway. Text, whether quoted or unquoted all comes out the same very small size. On a 19" monitor, it must be about maybe 8 point or 9 point. What I'm writing in, now, since it is _reply_, not new message, is probably about 14 point. Maybe 16 point, I forget what I put in, but it doesn't help on receive, or transmit new, those are still tiny, tiny. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 15 December 2006 08:29, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Well, it doesn't work that way. What I mean is, I guess what you call the "message body" i.e., what appears on the monitor when you access an email and try to read it, and what I mean has nothing to do with "quoted text" but what I write when I create an email.
"quoted text" is the text with "> " in front of it. ">" is usually used as quote character, sometimes people use different characters, e.g. "|" or "+".
It turns out that when I _reply_ to an email, as I am doing now, the text is a nice readable size.
Yes, a new window pops up, that's called the "Composer". "Composer" is also one of the entries in the "Apply to"-combobox.
Maybe that's what _you_ mean by "quoted text." I guess I managed to modify KMail to do that much, but I can't seem to get the _incoming mail text_ to a readable size.
_incoming mail text_: when you click on a message header (or subject) in the "Message List", the text of that mail ("Message Body") is shown in the "Message Body"-pane. "Message List" and "Message Body" are also entries in the "Apply to"-combo box.
BTW, there does not seem to be any way to check or uncheck "use smaller font for quoted text" in 9.3, and I would not want it to do so anyway.
Ok, maybe you have an older KMail. Mine is 1.9.5.
Text, whether quoted or unquoted all comes out the same very small size. On a 19" monitor, it must be about maybe 8 point or 9 point. What I'm writing in, now, since it is _reply_, not new message, is probably about 14 point. Maybe 16 point, I forget what I put in, but it doesn't help on receive, or transmit new, those are still tiny, tiny.
That's terrible. I too would not like that. I've sent you a personal mail to help you fix this. Cheers, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 19:43 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I thought I could configure font sizes from the configure menu in KMail, but everything is grayed out. Seems like I did this before, but have forgotten how. Help! Thanx!
--doug
Please check the date on your PC, you appear to be a month behind the rest of the world. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 22:45, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 19:43 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I thought I could configure font sizes from the configure menu in KMail, but everything is grayed out. Seems like I did this before, but have forgotten how. Help! Thanx!
--doug
Please check the date on your PC, you appear to be a month behind the rest of the world.
-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
Thanx. This machine has had a habit of doing that. Sometimes it gets _years_ out of date! I think there is some means of syncing to some time source, but I don't know how, and if it only works when you reboot, then it's not going to have much luck here--I generally leave the machine on. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Doug McGarrett wrote:
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 22:45, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 19:43 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I thought I could configure font sizes from the configure menu in KMail, but everything is grayed out. Seems like I did this before, but have forgotten how. Help! Thanx!
--doug Please check the date on your PC, you appear to be a month behind the rest of the world.
-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
Thanx. This machine has had a habit of doing that. Sometimes it gets _years_ out of date! I think there is some means of syncing to some time source, but I don't know how, and if it only works when you reboot, then it's not going to have much luck here--I generally leave the machine on.
Yast2>Network services>NTP Client Enable the NTP client and you'll be synchronized for the rest of your life. :-) Regards, -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Doug McGarrett wrote:
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 22:45, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 19:43 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I thought I could configure font sizes from the configure menu in KMail, but everything is grayed out. Seems like I did this before, but have forgotten how. Help! Thanx!
--doug
Please check the date on your PC, you appear to be a month behind the rest of the world.
-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
Thanx. This machine has had a habit of doing that. Sometimes it gets _years_ out of date! I think there is some means of syncing to some time source, but I don't know how, and if it only works when you reboot, then it's not going to have much luck here--I generally leave the machine on.
--doug
Configure NTP in Yast > Network services. NTP will correct the time automatically on a periodic basis. Google on NTP servers, to find one to use. You may want to use a pool server. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 December 2006 06:19, James Knott wrote:
Doug McGarrett wrote:
Thanx. This machine has had a habit of doing that. Sometimes it gets _years_ out of date! I think there is some means of syncing to some time source, but I don't know how, and if it only works when you reboot, then it's not going to have much luck here--I generally leave the machine on.
--doug
Configure NTP in Yast > Network services. NTP will correct the time automatically on a periodic basis. Google on NTP servers, to find one to use. You may want to use a pool server.
In the U.S.A. you can use us.pool.ntp.org for a pool of NTP servers. Works great. Other two-letter country codes apply also - check the ntp.org site. Stan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 13 November 2006 18:43, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I thought I could configure font sizes from the configure menu in KMail, but everything is grayed out. Seems like I did this before, but have forgotten how. Help! Thanx!
--doug
This is because the "use custom fonts" option is not checked. 1) Go to "Settings" menu. 2) Choose "Configure Kmail" 3) In the Configure Kmail window, select the "Appearance" panel. 4) Near the top of this window you will see this checkbox. Once it is checked, you will be able to adjust font settings. Regards. -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER@VISI.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 22:57, Jay C Vollmer wrote:
On Monday 13 November 2006 18:43, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I thought I could configure font sizes from the configure menu in KMail, but everything is grayed out. Seems like I did this before, but have forgotten how. Help! Thanx!
--doug
This is because the "use custom fonts" option is not checked.
1) Go to "Settings" menu. 2) Choose "Configure Kmail" 3) In the Configure Kmail window, select the "Appearance" panel. 4) Near the top of this window you will see this checkbox.
Once it is checked, you will be able to adjust font settings.
Regards.
-- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER@VISI.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE
Tried that. Only partially works. See other mail. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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