[opensuse] replacement for ivman? (was: When is HAL going away?)
Anton Aylward wrote:
Marcus Meissner said the following on 07/28/2011 07:55 AM:
Well, you can try. "zypper rm hal" and you will see what other packages will get deinstalled.
I get:
The following packages are going to be REMOVED: hal ivman libthunar-vfs-1-2 libvlccore2 thunar-vfs thunar-vfs-lang xfce4-panel-plugin-cddrive xfce4-panel-plugin-places
Now I don't mid loosing the xfce stuff but I'm curious about IVMAN.
I seem to recall having to install that so I can access plugin devices like USB memory/disk and PC cards.
As long as one doesn't use GNOME, KDE, or XFCE, ivman was a nice tool to get automatic hot-plug mounts in these environments. AFAICS, ivman is not maintained any more upstream, at http://ivman.sourceforge.net/. Last update there was in 2007; dependency on HAL won't go away. Thus, I would say it's probable that one has to look for another similar tool in such non full-fledged desktop environments, if one doesn't want to do manual mounts there. Anybody knows of such a tool, i.e. one that is not HAL-dependent but uses udev/udisk, to issue user mount requests on plug events? Or shall one has to write udev-rules that issue pmount commands? Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod@acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:11:21AM +0200, Joachim Schrod wrote:
Anton Aylward wrote:
Marcus Meissner said the following on 07/28/2011 07:55 AM:
Well, you can try. "zypper rm hal" and you will see what other packages will get deinstalled.
I get:
The following packages are going to be REMOVED: hal ivman libthunar-vfs-1-2 libvlccore2 thunar-vfs thunar-vfs-lang xfce4-panel-plugin-cddrive xfce4-panel-plugin-places
Now I don't mid loosing the xfce stuff but I'm curious about IVMAN.
I seem to recall having to install that so I can access plugin devices like USB memory/disk and PC cards.
As long as one doesn't use GNOME, KDE, or XFCE, ivman was a nice tool to get automatic hot-plug mounts in these environments.
AFAICS, ivman is not maintained any more upstream, at http://ivman.sourceforge.net/. Last update there was in 2007; dependency on HAL won't go away.
Thus, I would say it's probable that one has to look for another similar tool in such non full-fledged desktop environments, if one doesn't want to do manual mounts there. Anybody knows of such a tool, i.e. one that is not HAL-dependent but uses udev/udisk, to issue user mount requests on plug events?
A replacement tool seems to be udisks-glue. udisks-glue is in the factory submission queue. Also in home:msmeissn for testing. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Marcus Meissner writes:
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:11:21AM +0200, Joachim Schrod wrote:
AFAICS, ivman is not maintained any more upstream, at http://ivman.sourceforge.net/. Last update there was in 2007; dependency on HAL won't go away.
Thus, I would say it's probable that one has to look for another similar tool in such non full-fledged desktop environments, if one doesn't want to do manual mounts there. Anybody knows of such a tool, i.e. one that is not HAL-dependent but uses udev/udisk, to issue user mount requests on plug events?
A replacement tool seems to be udisks-glue.
udisks-glue is in the factory submission queue.
Also in home:msmeissn for testing.
Ah, and also available for 11.4. Thanks for supplying that package; I'll give it a try. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod@acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Joachim Schrod said the following on 07/29/2011 08:16 AM:
A replacement tool seems to be udisks-glue.
udisks-glue is in the factory submission queue.
Also in home:msmeissn for testing. Ah, and also available for 11.4. Thanks for supplying that package; I'll give it a try.
Try without it first. The basic udisks daemon works fine or me. -- Ah, nostalgia ain't what it used to be. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Joachim Schrod said the following on 07/29/2011 05:11 AM:
Anton Aylward wrote:
Marcus Meissner said the following on 07/28/2011 07:55 AM:
Well, you can try. "zypper rm hal" and you will see what other packages will get deinstalled.
I get:
The following packages are going to be REMOVED: hal ivman libthunar-vfs-1-2 libvlccore2 thunar-vfs thunar-vfs-lang xfce4-panel-plugin-cddrive xfce4-panel-plugin-places
Now I don't mid loosing the xfce stuff but I'm curious about IVMAN.
I seem to recall having to install that so I can access plugin devices like USB memory/disk and PC cards.
As long as one doesn't use GNOME, KDE, or XFCE, ivman was a nice tool to get automatic hot-plug mounts in these environments.
AFAICS, ivman is not maintained any more upstream, at http://ivman.sourceforge.net/. Last update there was in 2007; dependency on HAL won't go away.
Thus, I would say it's probable that one has to look for another similar tool in such non full-fledged desktop environments, if one doesn't want to do manual mounts there. Anybody knows of such a tool, i.e. one that is not HAL-dependent but uses udev/udisk, to issue user mount requests on plug events?
Or shall one has to write udev-rules that issue pmount commands?
I simply issued the zypper rm command that took out the list in my earlier mail, including ivman. I rebooted and am happily working in KDE without ivman or hal. And yes, my usb sticks and pc cards and usb mouse all get inserted and mounted. No, Marcus, I've not needed to install udisks-glue. It seems the rules in /lib/udev/rules.d are quite adequate Maybe someone will be so kind as to recompile the KDE suite with the dependency for akonadi/nepomuk removed, then I can run a real lightweight system :-) -- If I had never thought about computer typesetting, I might have had a happier life in some ways. -- Knuth -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 06:18 -0400, Anton Aylward wrote:
Joachim Schrod said the following on 07/29/2011 05:11 AM:
Anton Aylward wrote:
Marcus Meissner said the following on 07/28/2011 07:55 AM:
Well, you can try. "zypper rm hal" and you will see what other packages will get deinstalled.
I get:
The following packages are going to be REMOVED: hal ivman libthunar-vfs-1-2 libvlccore2 thunar-vfs thunar-vfs-lang xfce4-panel-plugin-cddrive xfce4-panel-plugin-places
Now I don't mid loosing the xfce stuff but I'm curious about IVMAN.
I seem to recall having to install that so I can access plugin devices like USB memory/disk and PC cards.
As long as one doesn't use GNOME, KDE, or XFCE, ivman was a nice tool to get automatic hot-plug mounts in these environments.
AFAICS, ivman is not maintained any more upstream, at http://ivman.sourceforge.net/. Last update there was in 2007; dependency on HAL won't go away.
Thus, I would say it's probable that one has to look for another similar tool in such non full-fledged desktop environments, if one doesn't want to do manual mounts there. Anybody knows of such a tool, i.e. one that is not HAL-dependent but uses udev/udisk, to issue user mount requests on plug events?
Or shall one has to write udev-rules that issue pmount commands?
I simply issued the zypper rm command that took out the list in my earlier mail, including ivman.
I rebooted and am happily working in KDE without ivman or hal. And yes, my usb sticks and pc cards and usb mouse all get inserted and mounted.
No, Marcus, I've not needed to install udisks-glue. It seems the rules in /lib/udev/rules.d are quite adequate
Maybe someone will be so kind as to recompile the KDE suite with the dependency for akonadi/nepomuk removed, then I can run a real lightweight system :-)
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