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John Andersen

19 Dec 2009 19 Dec '09

01:34

Should Opensuse consider making Google Chrome the default browser for KDE? Its faster than Firefox, and seems at least as capable as Kong. Drawbacks? Would Google allow it? Would it fit? Opinions? Flames? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Randall R Schulz

19 Dec 19 Dec

01:48

On Friday December 18 2009, John Andersen wrote:

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Should Opensuse consider making Google Chrome the default browser for KDE?

Its faster than Firefox, and seems at least as capable as Kong.

Drawbacks? Would Google allow it? Would it fit?

Opinions? Flames?

I'm using it, but for exactly one thing: Google Wave. As far as I can tell, the Linux port does not yet support plug-ins the way the Windows port does. (I've heard contradicting claims, so maybe I just don't know how to find or install plug-ins for Chrome). Anyway, I don't think Chrome is ready to be a replacement for Konqueror, especially given Konqueror's file manager capabilities, which have no counterpart in any browser I'm aware of. Then again, I couldn't possibly use Konqueror as my Web browser, I use it only for those few occasions when I want to use some of its unique abilities such as its info file viewer. I would like Chrome to be available via one of the stock openSUSE repositories (if it's not already... is it? If so, for which openSUSE versions?) I don't think Google could object (not in any way that actually impedes openSUSE's ability to include it), since it is an open-source project. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ken Schneider - openSUSE

02:16

On 12/18/2009 08:48 PM, Randall R Schulz pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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On Friday December 18 2009, John Andersen wrote:

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Should Opensuse consider making Google Chrome the default browser for KDE?

Its faster than Firefox, and seems at least as capable as Kong.

Drawbacks? Would Google allow it? Would it fit?

Opinions? Flames?

I'm using it, but for exactly one thing: Google Wave.

As far as I can tell, the Linux port does not yet support plug-ins the way the Windows port does. (I've heard contradicting claims, so maybe I just don't know how to find or install plug-ins for Chrome).

Anyway, I don't think Chrome is ready to be a replacement for Konqueror, especially given Konqueror's file manager capabilities, which have no counterpart in any browser I'm aware of. Then again, I couldn't possibly use Konqueror as my Web browser, I use it only for those few occasions when I want to use some of its unique abilities such as its info file viewer.

I would like Chrome to be available via one of the stock openSUSE repositories (if it's not already... is it? If so, for which openSUSE versions?)

I don't think Google could object (not in any way that actually impedes openSUSE's ability to include it), since it is an open-source project.

Randall Schulz

Add this to file /etc/zypp/repos.d/Google_Chrome.repo [Google_Chrome] name=Google_Chrome enabled=1 autorefresh=0 baseurl=http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/i386 type=rpm-md keeppackages=0 Refresh zypp and you will be able to add chrome like any other package. You will have to adjust for your kernel flavor. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

John Andersen

02:45

On Friday 18 December 2009 06:16:58 pm Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

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On 12/18/2009 08:48 PM, Randall R Schulz pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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On Friday December 18 2009, John Andersen wrote:

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Should Opensuse consider making Google Chrome the default browser for KDE?

Its faster than Firefox, and seems at least as capable as Kong.

Drawbacks? Would Google allow it? Would it fit?

Opinions? Flames?

I'm using it, but for exactly one thing: Google Wave.

As far as I can tell, the Linux port does not yet support plug-ins the way the Windows port does. (I've heard contradicting claims, so maybe I just don't know how to find or install plug-ins for Chrome).

Anyway, I don't think Chrome is ready to be a replacement for Konqueror, especially given Konqueror's file manager capabilities, which have no counterpart in any browser I'm aware of. Then again, I couldn't possibly use Konqueror as my Web browser, I use it only for those few occasions when I want to use some of its unique abilities such as its info file viewer.

I would like Chrome to be available via one of the stock openSUSE repositories (if it's not already... is it? If so, for which openSUSE versions?)

I don't think Google could object (not in any way that actually impedes openSUSE's ability to include it), since it is an open-source project.

Randall Schulz

Add this to file /etc/zypp/repos.d/Google_Chrome.repo

[Google_Chrome] name=Google_Chrome enabled=1 autorefresh=0 baseurl=http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/i386 type=rpm-md keeppackages=0

Refresh zypp and you will be able to add chrome like any other package. You will have to adjust for your kernel flavor.

If you want Flash to work you also have to see this page: http://en.opensuse.org/HOWTO_Install_Flash For x86_64, you have to do: $ su - # cd /opt/google/chrome/ # mkdir plugins # cd plugins # ln -s /usr/lib64/browser-plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so (The last line differs from the web page on above.) Don't forget to edit your KDE menus to add the "--enable-plugins" bit. -- A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

John Andersen

02:30

On Friday 18 December 2009 05:48:42 pm Randall R Schulz wrote:

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I would like Chrome to be available via one of the stock openSUSE repositories (if it's not already... is it? If so, for which openSUSE versions?)

It appears I am pulling my version directly from Google on Opensuse, via Google's repository http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/x86_64 But in Ubuntu it appears in available (slightly back level) directly from Ubuntu and packaged by Fabien Tassin of Ubuntu It seems to work flawlessly in Kubuntu. Having trouble with Flash on opensuse 11.2 -- A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

02:45

* John Andersen [12-18-09 21:34]:

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On Friday 18 December 2009 05:48:42 pm Randall R Schulz wrote:

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I would like Chrome to be available via one of the stock openSUSE repositories (if it's not already... is it? If so, for which openSUSE versions?)

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/11.2:/Contrib/standard/x...

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It appears I am pulling my version directly from Google on Opensuse, via Google's repository http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/x86_64

the Contrib repo contains later versions.

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But in Ubuntu it appears in available (slightly back level) directly from Ubuntu and packaged by Fabien Tassin of Ubuntu

It seems to work flawlessly in Kubuntu. Having trouble with Flash on opensuse 11.2

Flash appears to work fine for me, but cannot read pdf's. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Randall R Schulz

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On Friday December 18 2009, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* John Andersen [12-18-09 21:34]:

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On Friday 18 December 2009 05:48:42 pm Randall R Schulz wrote:

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I would like Chrome to be available via one of the stock openSUSE repositories (if it's not already... is it? If so, for which openSUSE versions?)

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/11.2:/Contrib/sta ndard/x86_64/chromium-4.0.273.0-1.1.x86_64.rpm

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It appears I am pulling my version directly from Google on Opensuse, via Google's repository http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/x86_64

Interesting. I had this repository (actually, its 32-bit counterpart) configured, but nothing installed from it. I think I set it up 'cause I was hoping they'd put Google Earth there, but instead it has only Picasa and Google Desktop (and now Chrome). At least now I don't need to do a manual install from a tarball the way I had been. There's both an "unstable" and a "beta" build in the Google repository. I chose beta.

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the Contrib repo contains later versions.

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But in Ubuntu it appears in available (slightly back level) directly from Ubuntu and packaged by Fabien Tassin of Ubuntu

It seems to work flawlessly in Kubuntu. Having trouble with Flash on opensuse 11.2

Flash appears to work fine for me, but cannot read pdf's.

Oddly enough, I have the PDF plug-in in about:plugins but not the Flash plug-in. Nonetheless, it does not display PDF files. It does draw the dark grey Reader background but none of its controls or document content.

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-- Patrick Shanahan

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John Andersen

19:45

On 12/19/2009 8:00 AM, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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On Friday December 18 2009, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* John Andersen [12-18-09 21:34]:

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On Friday 18 December 2009 05:48:42 pm Randall R Schulz wrote:

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I would like Chrome to be available via one of the stock openSUSE repositories (if it's not already... is it? If so, for which openSUSE versions?)

Other than some temporary problems of completeness, I'm finding it a pretty good and very fast browser. If I need file information, I might launch Kong in file-manager mode via a separate menu item, but I wouldn't start with the Kong browser. Its been stated that the only reason FireFox is the default browser on KDE4 was that Kong had some teething problems and the default would revert to Kong in subsequent releases. I'm suggesting that perhaps KDE should look at its own Browser Election scenario, and put the effort into making sure default browser integration works any reasonable browser of choice. Its sort of sad that webkit, which began with KDE is lagging on KDE and that Kong is being beaten with its own stick. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

20 Dec 20 Dec

01:40

* Randall R Schulz [12-19-09 11:01]:

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On Friday December 18 2009, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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Flash appears to work fine for me, but cannot read pdf's.

Oddly enough, I have the PDF plug-in in about:plugins but not the Flash plug-in. Nonetheless, it does not display PDF files. It does draw the dark grey Reader background but none of its controls or document content.

Yeah, I have the adobe plugin and had tried each of the add-on extensions provided for chrome, but all I get is the dark gray screen and no controls. Flash on the otherhand appears to work fine including sound. I have chromium hot-keyed and use it for quick and dirty. It loads fast and renders quickly. I use firefox for more serious... -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

pearson44j

16:27

Hello

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As far as I can tell, the Linux port does not yet support plug-ins the way the Windows port does. (I've heard contradicting claims, so maybe I just don't know how to find or install plug-ins for Chrome).

After reading the emails on Chrome - I installed it and noticed the same plugin problems Then I tried the following and now all my Firefox plugins work fine on Chrome # cd /opt/google/chrome/ # ln -s /usr/lib/browser-plugins plugins Regards JAmes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

16:48

* pearson44j [12-20-09 11:29]:

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As far as I can tell, the Linux port does not yet support plug-ins the way the Windows port does. (I've heard contradicting claims, so maybe I just don't know how to find or install plug-ins for Chrome).

After reading the emails on Chrome - I installed it and noticed the same plugin problems

Then I tried the following and now all my Firefox plugins work fine on Chrome

# cd /opt/google/chrome/ # ln -s /usr/lib/browser-plugins plugins

on KDE4 and ll.2 x86_64 there is: /usr/lib64/chromium/plugins and: /usr/lib64/browser-plugins and they each contain the same links/files there is also /usr/lib/browser-plugins which contains the flash and adobe links but they all show in about:plugins so chrome/chromium must be reading the link.... -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Randall R Schulz

00:10

On Friday December 18 2009, John Andersen wrote:

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Should Opensuse consider making Google Chrome the default browser for KDE?

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Drawbacks? ...

One non-trivial drawback I'm experiencing and a bit of searching on the Web confirms to be a general problem for many users is the fact that Chrome does not yet render text very well. I don't understand the issues, but apparently something about the specific manner in which the Chrome code renders text for the main Web page drawing keeps it from taking advantage of the rendering support in either GTK or Qt (KDE). Presumably this will be resolved at some point, but I wouldn't make Chrome the default browser before it is.

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