2006/9/5, Robert Schiele <rschiele@gmail.com>:
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 03:22:47PM -0400, Marcel Mourguiart wrote:
> Wrong, all have non-free software in there servers ALL, one thing is to put
> non-free software on your media ( CDs, DVDs, etc ) and a completely
> different thing is to put it in your server as a depositary.

You are still talking crap.  It does not matter _how_ you distribute software
that violates a license, just the fact that you distribute it makes the
violation.

Sure there are commercial add-ons for these distributions.  As long as these
commercial add-ons do not violate a license this is legal but if they _do_
violate a license this is no longer legal and this is what we where talking
about.

> No, but  you can't put a non-free drivers with a GPL kernel, that's in
> conflict with GPL licence.

Hey, you finally got it!  Now you only have to make one final conclusion to
find that binary-only kernel drivers are illegal.  I still have some hope left
that you will make this.

Know, try to think a little before you ownser, if i'm saying that, why i repeating that you CAN put non-free software on your _server_ , not your cd's, not your dvd's but your **server**

> Ok, so illuminate me, why you can't put non-free drivers in the same server
> as a depositary ??

If you in return explain me what a "depositary" is in this context.

I mean "repository", my english is not that good.


> What about this ??
> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-glx_1.0.8774-2_i386.deb
> Is against GPL ??

No, because it does not include the violating kernel module at all.

Take a better look:
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/

> And what about this:
> http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.0/inst-source-extra/suse/i586/km_smartlink-softmodem-2.9.10-17.i586.rpm
> Is against GPL too ??

Yes.  Didn't you read the discussions on this list some time before 10.1 was
released?

So you fix it before 10.1 ?? and what is this:
http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.1/inst-source-extra/suse/i586/
http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.1/SUSE-Linux10.1-GM-Extra/suse/i586/

Why can't be there nvidia drivers ??

> If you want to keep your server with only free-software that's ok, but don't
> can a say a lie like you can't put the nvidia driver in your server becouse
> is agains GPL, that's just a lie.

I can just repeat: Get a clue!

Ok, sorry i'm probably stupid, but again just in case you did't see it here are non-free kernel modules in:

suse 10:
http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.0/inst-source-extra/suse/i586/km_smartlink-softmodem-2.9.10-17.i586.rpm

suse 10.1
http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.1/SUSE-Linux10.1-GM-Extra/suse/i586/smartlink-softmodem-kmp-default-2.9.10_2.6.16.13_4-44.i586.rpm

So know, again, why the smartlink kernel module is fine, but the nvidia driver is wrong ??

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Marcel Mourguiart