From jhoepner@tvsw.org Mon Feb 21 18:16:08 2000 From: jhoepner@tvsw.org To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SLE] Sun Sparc2 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:16:08 -0600 Message-ID: <001201bf7c97$bad17ba0$811f43a7@pc01319.emd.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4157943674599926059==" --===============4157943674599926059== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will SuSE run on a Sun Sparc2 workstation? I have the chance to buy a couple of workstations but the OS is outdated. Thanks! jrh Will SuSE run on a Sun Sparc2 workstati= on? I have the chance to buy a couple of workstations but the OS is outdated= .

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N=C2=8B=C2=A7=C2=B2=C3=A6=C3=ACr=C5=BE=C2=9Bz=C3=87=C2=A7u=C3=A9=C2=9A=C2=8A[= h=C2=B2=C3=AB=1E=C2=96)=C3=AE=C3=85=C3=AB=C2=A7=C2=B2=C3=A6=C3=ACr=C5=BE=C2= =9Bz=C3=8B=C2=ACy=C3=8A&=16=C2=8A=C3=9Au=C3=98=C2=AD=C2=8A=C2=89=C3=9A=C2=95= =C3=8A&=C2=99=C2=A9=C3=9D=C2=B2=C3=87=C2=A7u=C3=A9=C2=9A=C2=8A[h=C2=B2=C3=AB= =1E=C2=96)=C3=AE=C3=85=C3=A8^=C2=96=C2=9B.=C2=B1=C3=A7(=02[(r=17=C2=9C=C2=92= =C3=98^=14=04=1A=C2=B6=1Bm=C2=A7=C3=BF=C3=B0=C3=83=0B.=C2=B1=C3=A7(=C2=9B=C3= =B4=C2=AE=C5=A0=C2=9A+=C2=B7=C3=B0=C3=A8=C2=92=C3=AF=C3=85 --===============4157943674599926059==-- From pthomas@suse.de Mon Feb 21 19:38:06 2000 From: pthomas@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SLE] Sun Sparc2 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:38:06 +0100 Message-ID: <20000221203806.J4756@Jeffreys.suse.de> In-Reply-To: <001201bf7c97$bad17ba0$811f43a7@pc01319.emd.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2512653118239290385==" --===============2512653118239290385== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, in future, would you please refrain from sending HTML-Mail to this list? Not everybody is able to read that and it's generally frowned apon. > Will SuSE run on a Sun Sparc2 workstation? I have the chance to buy a > couple of workstations but the OS is outdated. No, there's currently no SuSE Linux for Sparc available :-( Philipp --=20 Philipp Thomas SuSE GmbH, Deutschherrenstrasse 15-29, 90429 Nuremberg The only difference between a bug and a feature is you can turn a feature off= . =20 --=20 To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com = =20 Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ --===============2512653118239290385==-- From jbarnett@axil.netmate.com Mon Feb 21 20:27:15 2000 From: jbarnett@axil.netmate.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SLE] Sun Sparc2 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:27:15 -0600 Message-ID: <000d01bf7caa$0c8b3f00$153046c6@inx.net> In-Reply-To: <20000221203806.J4756@Jeffreys.suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3342953800224114794==" --===============3342953800224114794== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- From: Philipp Thomas To: Jim Hoepner Cc: Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] Sun Sparc2 > Jim, > in future, would you please refrain from sending HTML-Mail to this list? Not > everybody is able to read that and it's generally frowned apon. > > > Will SuSE run on a Sun Sparc2 workstation? I have the chance to buy a > > couple of workstations but the OS is outdated. > > No, there's currently no SuSE Linux for Sparc available :-( Solaris 7 is avaiable for free (as in beer not speech) and you can even get Solaris 8 early enterpise developers pre-release version w/64 bit support (or as the rest of the world calls it "Solaris 8 Beta") I also think Red Hat makes a Linux distro avaiable for Sparc CPU's. OpenBSD and NetBSD will also run on these machines. You might want to consider the price-cost/performance benifit of these machines. I got on off ebay for about $200 bucks with 64 megs and 2.2 gigs in 2 SCSI seagate hard drives. At the time I also had a P-75 w/ 48 Megs of ram with 1.2 gigs in 1 SCSI hard drive. One was running Solaris 2.6 and the other Red Hat Linux 5.1. The servers where both used for testing purposes, unoffical junk that I didn't one to spread around and infect my "real" servers/workstation. Test software things like that. When I was running software off either of them remotely I couldn't tell the differance in speed. They seemed equal and had about the same performance. The only differance between the two machines, is that one was Sun hardware and costed me allot more than equal speed from a x86 machine running Linux. The thing people forget is that Linux was orignally designed for the x86 processer and that is where most of the effort is going. It was ported over to sparc after the fact, just like sun port solaris over to the x86 after it was done. As my friend always told me: if it is x86 run linux if it is sparc run solaris if it is mips run irix if you have no fscking clue of the cpu try netbsd, it will work. Jack > > Philipp > > -- > Philipp Thomas > SuSE GmbH, Deutschherrenstrasse 15-29, 90429 Nuremberg > > The only difference between a bug and a feature is you can turn a feature off. > > -- > To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ > > --=20 To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com = =20 Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ --===============3342953800224114794==-- From jhoepner@tvsw.org Mon Feb 21 21:42:43 2000 From: jhoepner@tvsw.org To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SLE] Sun Sparc2 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:42:43 -0600 Message-ID: <002301bf7cb4$96241d90$811f43a7@pc01319.emd.com> In-Reply-To: <000d01bf7caa$0c8b3f00$153046c6@inx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2678856426802490521==" --===============2678856426802490521== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Jim, in future, would you please refrain from sending HTML-Mail to this > > list? Not everybody is able to read that and it's generally frowned > > apon. Sorry. I wasn't thinking. I reset my email to plain text. Hope this one comes thru alright. --jrh > > > Will SuSE run on a Sun Sparc2 workstation? I have the chance to > > > > buy a couple of workstations but the OS is outdated. > > No, there's currently no SuSE Linux for Sparc available :-( >Solaris 7 is avaiable for free (as in beer not speech) and you can even > >get Solaris 8 early enterpise developers pre-release version w/64 bit >support (or as the rest of the world calls it "Solaris 8 Beta") >I also think Red Hat makes a Linux distro avaiable for Sparc CPU's. >OpenBSD and NetBSD will also run on these machines. >You might want to consider the price-cost/performance benifit of these >machines. I got on off ebay for about $200 bucks with 64 megs and 2.2 >gigs in 2 SCSI seagate hard drives. At the time I also had a P-75 w/ 48 >Megs of ram with 1.2 gigs in 1 SCSI hard drive. One was running Solaris >2.6 and the other Red Hat Linux 5.1. >The servers where both used for testing purposes, unoffical junk that I >didn't one to spread around and infect my "real" servers/workstation. >Test software things like that. When I was running software off either of >them remotely I couldn't tell the differance in speed. They seemed equal >and had about the same performance. >The only differance between the two machines, is that one was Sun hardware >and costed me allot more than equal speed from a x86 machine running >Linux. The thing people forget is that Linux was orignally designed for >the x86 processer and that is where most of the effort is going. It was >ported over to sparc after the fact, just like sun port solaris over to >the x86 after it was done. >As my friend always told me: >if it is x86 run linux >if it is sparc run solaris >if it is mips run irix >if you have no fscking clue of the cpu try netbsd, it will work. >Jack Thanks for the info Jack (and everyone else). I am maybe rethinking this purchase. The (8)systems I am looking at are $150ea, have 64Megs ram, and vary in HD size but are somewhere around a gig. There's a bunch of extra HD's, a couple of tape units, cd, modem, etc. I was thinking this was a good way to get some scsi systems but I see I can get a 10gig scsi drive for around $300-$400 (which would equal all of the HD's from the Sparcs) it doesn't look very cost effective. Besides I really like SuSE and would just like to stay with that Linux dist. Thanks a bunch! --jrh --=20 To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com = =20 Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ --===============2678856426802490521==-- From chris.reeves@iname.com Mon Feb 21 22:40:37 2000 From: chris.reeves@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SLE] Sun Sparc2 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:40:37 +0000 Message-ID: <38B1BEE5.AE7BEC72@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <20000221203806.J4756@Jeffreys.suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2577522242717870068==" --===============2577522242717870068== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim Hoepner wrote: > > Will SuSE run on a Sun Sparc2 workstation? I have the chance to buy a > couple of workstations but the OS is outdated. SuSE won't work - I asked a similar question a couple of days ago. The consensus appeared to be that Red Hat was the way to go... Hope that helps, Chris --=20 __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ --=20 To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com = =20 Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ --===============2577522242717870068==-- From bent@clark.net Mon Feb 21 23:51:23 2000 From: bent@clark.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SLE] Sun Sparc2 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:51:23 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <38B1BEE5.AE7BEC72@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3307303809788758220==" --===============3307303809788758220== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Chris Reeves wrote: > Jim Hoepner wrote: > > > > Will SuSE run on a Sun Sparc2 workstation? I have the chance to buy a > > couple of workstations but the OS is outdated. >=20 > SuSE won't work - I asked a similar question a couple of days ago. The > consensus appeared to be that Red Hat was the way to go... Mandrake Linux is available with Rev 7 as an ISO image. (Damn I love my cable modem...) I'm going to burn a copy and see how it goes on my ultra. I like to stay far away from RH. Ben --=20 To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com = =20 Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ --===============3307303809788758220==--