From andy@nerds.co.uk Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970
From: andy@nerds.co.uk
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Star Office Desktop icon
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:51:11 +0000
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Now I have put Star office in /Office50, how do I get an Icon on the desktop =
to start the soffice script from the /Office50/bin directory?
Andy at Work
Home address Andy(a)nerds.co.uk
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From rthompson@motleypc.com Thu Apr 1 00:06:08 1999
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:06:08 -0800
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Actually if setup properly I believe it runs as user "news".
Rick Thompson
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On
> Behalf Of Bud Rogers
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 11:24 AM
> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Andy Ford writes:
>=20
> > Could not open lockfile /var/run/fetch.lck for writing, abort fetch ...
> > Sould I change the permissions on the dir (seems like a bad idea...)
> > or run fetch as root?
>=20
> I think fetch needs to run as root.
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From mcdo148@ibm.net Thu Apr 1 00:37:45 1999
From: mcdo148@ibm.net
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] isapnp.conf now works :-) BUT kppp still says modem busy
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:37:45 -0500
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Hi there,
Thanks for the help! There were lots of weird M type characters in the .conf
file, I fixed it ran pnpdump and got the following output:
[start]
lspci not found, so PCI resource conflict not checked
Board 1 has Identity a9 ff ff ff ff 36 42 63 0e: CSC4236 Serial No -1 [check=
sum
a9]
Board 2 has Identity 7b fe db eb ab 31 30 72 56: USR3031 Serial No 4275825579
[checksum 7b]
Board USR3030/-1612403801 not found - skipping=20
[end]
So I told YaST that the modem lived under Com1, entered ISP info and nameserv=
er.
Made sure there was no .lock in ppp/options and punched all the info in kppp,
but it still just says "modem busy"
In the BIOS setup, I set the irq for Com1 to ISA type instead of PCi/PnP
And under the motherboard options I changed com1 form auto to disbaled.
So I'm baffled again, but at least something has been accomplished :-)
Please help if you can, Cheers!
Dom
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From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr 1 00:49:58 1999
From: dizzy73@connix.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:49:58 -0500
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On 31 Mar 1999, Bud Rogers wrote:
->
->Andy Ford writes:
->
->> Could not open lockfile /var/run/fetch.lck for writing, abort fetch ...
->> Sould I change the permissions on the dir (seems like a bad idea...)
->> or run fetch as root?
->
->I think fetch needs to run as root.
->
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./fetch need to run as "news" --> so as root su news
once you run fetch... its probably already dld the main list. Start a tin
-r as a user and y ank in the main list and subscribe. If you have a
network point
the news reader to the local ip where leafnode is running. On your machine
where leafnode is... use localhost.
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From mperry@basin.com Thu Apr 1 01:17:58 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.5 and the dell inspiron
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:17:58 -0800
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I have heard that the experimental drivers for sound support for the
Dell Inspiron 7000 PII 366mhz system are included in the 2.2.5 kernel.=20
Has anyone using a dell inspiron attempted the sound card installation
or support? I dont recall the sound card type but have heard that they
are available in 2.2.5.
Thanks. It also appears that XI has released a version 5 of their
video drivers and that they are now glibc based which makes things a
lot better. Has anyone upgraded to these drivers?
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From mperry@basin.com Thu Apr 1 01:42:23 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Thank you all!!!
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:42:23 -0800
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On 31 Mar, dizzy73 wrote:
>=20
> HI Dan
> I think thats unusual. I was under the impression that ppp and
> slip where stock in suses distro. Is this on 5.3? Or 6?
> rob
>=20
I dont think so. I have installed 5.3 on a number of occasions and did
not get ppp in the kernel. It seemed rather odd to me when it happened
and I chalked it up to perhaps something I had done differently. When
I did the 5.0 release, I seem to remember getting ppp without a problem.
Perhaps something changed in the 5.3 release?
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From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr 1 02:06:52 1999
From: dizzy73@connix.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Thank you all!!!
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:06:52 -0500
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HI Dan
I think thats unusual. I was under the impression that ppp and
slip where stock in suses distro. Is this on 5.3? Or 6?
rob
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Dan Tudor wrote:
->
->Thank you all for helping me this days so much. This is the first mail I'm
->sending within Linux and it feels great! My PPP connection is up and runnin=
g!
->
->Besides the "lock" option I had to comment, I've found out, to my ashame t=
hat
->I haven't the PPP compiled into the kernel! I was used with Red Hat where t=
his
->was done by default. Instead, the guys from SuSE included radio modems in t=
he
->kernel, and no PPP. when doing a standard installation. Interesting..
->
->Again, thanx to all those who bothered to answer to my help request message=
s.
->
->Dan.
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From mcdo148@ibm.net Thu Apr 1 02:09:14 1999
From: mcdo148@ibm.net
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Subject:
[SuSE Linux] Progress: but help... Now hanging on "Modem Ready"
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:09:14 -0500
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Hey everyone,
Glad to hear you got your modem working BTW Dizzy :-)
Well, I went into my BIOS and changed the motherboard com1 thing from disabled
to a different address, and slight progress has been made on the kppp front. =
Now
kppp says "Modem Ready" and then just sits there.=20
I know I've had this problem before, I had it with 5.3 originally I'm pretty
sure. I know I fixed it, I just can't remember how...
Any suggestions welcome!
Cheers!
Dom
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 1 02:11:21 1999
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Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] isapnp.conf now works :-) BUT kppp still says modem busy
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:11:21 +0200
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Star Rubies wrote:
>=20
> Hi there,
>=20
> Thanks for the help! There were lots of weird M type characters in the .conf
> file, I fixed it ran pnpdump and got the following output:
>=20
> [start]
> lspci not found, so PCI resource conflict not checked
Again, this means, that you haven't installed pciutils. lspci is part
of thhe package, which in turn is on the suse cdroms. I'd use it so
you can be sure that there aren't conflicting resources.
Henning
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From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr 1 02:15:15 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Humor...
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:15:15 -0500
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March 30, 1999(Seattle) -- Microsoft announced today that it will
provide
office furniture with its software. The next release of Windows, code
named
Naugahyde, will include the Microsoft Chair at no extra charge.
"This is a natural for us," a Microsoft spokesperson said. "We've
conquered
the desktop, so we're looking at way of expanding our installed base."
The spokesperson denied accusations that bundling constitutes an unfair
competitive advantage. "We're just listening to our customers. They've
asked for more built in features, and who doesn't use a chair when
they're
at their computer? Especially when they're waiting for Windows to
reboot."
Beta testers noted its large footprint and found the chair to lack
substantial features found in most of the competition. But when asked if
they dislike it enough to purchase another vendor's furniture, most
stated
that they would just take what Microsoft had to offer. Also in the works
is
a small seat, dubbed the Microsoft Stool, soon to be bundled with
laptops.
Beta testers were surprised to find the backless chair at their
doorsteps.
"Then again, it's not the first time we've received a shrink-wrapped
stool
sample from Microsoft," noted one breathless customer.
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From tjhanson@tscnet.com Thu Apr 1 02:22:13 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Electronic Funds Transfer
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 18:22:13 -0800
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I've become interested in EFT. My interest is in creating software
which would initiate electronic transactions through the ACH system, both
debit and credit. I would like to give Linux and/or coders the ability to
have
users make secure payments electronically from a financial application over
the Internet. While I have no interest in writing the next Quicken, I
would like to give whomever does write financial software the ability to
give users the option of paying bills electronically.
Does anyone know of a resource for learning the ACH system well enough
to send money through it?
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From jlkreps@navix.net Thu Apr 1 02:28:36 1999
From: jlkreps@navix.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound on 2.2.x kernels
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 20:28:36 -0600
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Nick wrote:
>=20
> A freind of mine just upgraded to the 2.2.4 kernel and he was previous
> running the 2.0.36 kernel (he was using oss for sound no problem) when he
> upgrade however, it seems the new kernel 2.2.4 (not sure about the 2.2.x
> kernels before 2.2.4) does not support OSS, he hasnt gotten it working
> under this kernel at least. and this is what he claims. Any
> ideas/comments/suggestions?
>=20
Not right now, but I'm sure I will when I run into the same problem this
May when SuSE 6.1 comes out and I putz around to get sound working
again...
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From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr 1 02:42:08 1999
From: dizzy73@connix.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Thank you all!!!
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:42:08 -0500
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Michael Perry wrote:
> On 31 Mar, dizzy73 wrote:
> >
> > HI Dan
> > I think thats unusual. I was under the impression that ppp and
> > slip where stock in suses distro. Is this on 5.3? Or 6?
> > rob
> >
> I dont think so. I have installed 5.3 on a number of occasions and did
> not get ppp in the kernel. It seemed rather odd to me when it happened
> and I chalked it up to perhaps something I had done differently. When
> I did the 5.0 release, I seem to remember getting ppp without a problem.
> Perhaps something changed in the 5.3 release?
>
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> mperry(a)basin.com
Thats weird...
Ive installed 5.3 about 12x and never had to build a kernel for ppp or
slipfirewall or masqurading (for diald).
I remember when I first installed suse in oct 98 and had similar ppproblems
I began to wonder if it was in the kernel as well. I beleive I posted here
and was told by someone from suse that ppp was in the kernel.
afaik ppp slip fw and ip masq are all included in the stock "IDE" kernel
upon install.
looking at the suse 5.3 manual pg 268 it says " IF you compile a kernel make
sure you include ppp"
I read that as if you redo your kernel be sure to *include* ppp--- Although
It dosnt come rite out and say its included by default.
At any rate I beleive a simple test such as typing in pppd as root should
give you a bunch of caracter gibberish if indeed you have pppd
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From deem@wdm.com Thu Apr 1 03:20:18 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound on 2.2.x kernels
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 18:20:18 -0900
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Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
>=20
> Nick wrote:
> >=20
> > A freind of mine just upgraded to the 2.2.4 kernel and he was previous
> > running the 2.0.36 kernel (he was using oss for sound no problem) when he
> > upgrade however, it seems the new kernel 2.2.4 (not sure about the 2.2.x
> > kernels before 2.2.4) does not support OSS, he hasnt gotten it working
> > under this kernel at least. and this is what he claims. Any
> > ideas/comments/suggestions?
> >=20
>=20
> Not right now, but I'm sure I will when I run into the same problem this
> May when SuSE 6.1 comes out and I putz around to get sound working
> again...
Hmmm.......
# uname -a=20
Linux wdm 2.2.5 #1 SMP Mon Mar 29 23:33:28 AKST 1999 i586 SuSE 6.0
cat /dev/sndstat
OSS/Linux 3.9.2g (C) 4Front Technologies 1996-1999
License serial number: XXXXXXXXXX
Options: AWE
This copy of OSS is licensed to Dee McKinney
Build: 2.2.5-SMP
Card config:=20
Generic PnP support
SoundBlaster AWE64 Gold at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1,5
OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388
SB MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 5
Emu 8000 Synthesizer Engine at 0x620
Audio devices:
0: Creative SB AWE64 Gold (4.16) (DUPLEX)
1: SB secondary device (DUPLEX)
Synth devices:
0: Yamaha OPL-3
1: AWE32-0.4.2 (RAM4096k)
Midi devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16
Timers:
0: System clock
Mixers:
0: Sound Blaster
1: AWE32 Equalizer
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inux to=20
one for the newer kernel.
Best Regards
-Dee
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From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr 1 03:49:59 1999
From: dizzy73@connix.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] isapnp.conf now works :-) BUT kppp still says modem busy
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 22:49:59 -0500
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Star Rubies wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Thanks for the help! There were lots of weird M type characters in the .conf
> file, I fixed it ran pnpdump and got the following output:
>
> [start]
> lspci not found, so PCI resource conflict not checked
> Board 1 has Identity a9 ff ff ff ff 36 42 63 0e: CSC4236 Serial No -1 [che=
cksum
> a9]
> Board 2 has Identity 7b fe db eb ab 31 30 72 56: USR3031 Serial No 4275825=
579
> [checksum 7b]
> Board USR3030/-1612403801 not found - skipping
> [end]
>
> So I told YaST that the modem lived under Com1, entered ISP info and namese=
rver.
> Made sure there was no .lock in ppp/options and punched all the info in kpp=
p,
> but it still just says "modem busy"
>
> In the BIOS setup, I set the irq for Com1 to ISA type instead of PCi/PnP
>
> And under the motherboard options I changed com1 form auto to disbaled.
>
> So I'm baffled again, but at least something has been accomplished :-)
>
> Please help if you can, Cheers!
> Dom
Hi Dom
I dont want to seem pendanic but... IMO kppp only "looks" easier to use.
Pros
Has a nice gui, time online, etc mouse click on/off some possible accounting =
of time
spent online
Cons
you *must* be in k to use it!
this rules out any other xwindow
rules out command line
rules out cron- diald
its *slow*... ;-)
you use a mouse (yech)
Id heartily recommend wvdial to get up and running initially
wvdial will *FIND* your modem!!! it will at the very least give you the corre=
ct
ttyS?
or let you know if the modem is even available
wvdial works from anywhere (exception of diald)
to use type wvdial, to close ctrl c thats it!
once your up and runnning then go for suseppp so you can use diald and cron
as usual... see my page for the wvdial file and the suseppp scripts
have fun
rob
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From mlmayo@texas.net Thu Apr 1 03:55:34 1999
From: mlmayo@texas.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound on 2.2.x kernels
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:55:34 -0600
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Hi,
I had the same problem. Just go to the oss website and get the upgrade
for 2.2.x .
=
http://www.opensound.com>
or for info about the OSS free
http://www.4front-tech.com/ossfree> (I think this =
is no longer supported?)
Hope this helps, Mike
On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Nick wrote:
>=20
>=20
> A freind of mine just upgraded to the 2.2.4 kernel and he was previous
> running the 2.0.36 kernel (he was using oss for sound no problem) when he
> upgrade however, it seems the new kernel 2.2.4 (not sure about the 2.2.x
> kernels before 2.2.4) does not support OSS, he hasnt gotten it working
> under this kernel at least. and this is what he claims. Any
> ideas/comments/suggestions?
>=20
> - Nick
>=20
>=20
> On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > Terry Eck wrote:
> > >=20
> > > Koen Dejonghe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I bought an OSS license from =
http://www.4front-tech.com/=
> just before the 2.2
> > > > kernel was out. I'm on 2.0.36 (SuSE 6.0) right now.
> > > > I think the new kernel has extensive support for sound. I'd like to h=
ear from
> > > > people who have experience with sound on 2.2.x kernels, and whether i=
t was a
> > > > dumb thing to do to spend 30 US$ on something that is now a built-in.
> > >=20
> > > Depends on you sound card. I'm using a SB 16 non-PNP which has always
> > > worked well under Linux both with kernel 2.0.36 and 2.2.3 (better
> > > under the 2.2.x series)
> > >=20
> >=20
> > And I am using the OPLA chip set which will probably always require the
> > OSS software...
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From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 04:25:40 1999
From: chuckwm_98@yahoo.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] getting laptop installed with 6.0
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 20:25:40 -0800
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I have not been able to upgrade my laptop from 5.2.=20
When pcmcia module is loaded memory_cs doesn't get
loaded. So it cannot detect the ethernet card. If
someone could shed some light on this I would
appreciate it. It starts the pcmcia services just
fine...Just can't see the card. I have searched all
over but no luck ;)
Chuck
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From alfiesty@chaffee.net Thu Apr 1 05:23:56 1999
From: alfiesty@chaffee.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Electronic Funds Transfer
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 05:23:56 +0000
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At 06:22 PM 03/31/1999 -0800, you wrote:
>
>I've become interested in EFT. My interest is in creating software
>which would initiate electronic transactions through the ACH system, both
>debit and credit. I would like to give Linux and/or coders the ability to
>have
>users make secure payments electronically from a financial application over
>the Internet. While I have no interest in writing the next Quicken, I
>would like to give whomever does write financial software the ability to
>give users the option of paying bills electronically.
>
>Does anyone know of a resource for learning the ACH system well enough
>to send money through it?
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Our company writes Direct Deposit programs that integrate with AccPak
Internationals accounting program.(in DOS and Windows)
The "National Automated Clearing House Association" publishes a annual=20
book titled "ACH Rules - Corperate Edition" which outlines all NACHA
guidelines.
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Herndon, Virginia 20171
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HTH
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From sabinelr@email.msn.com Thu Apr 1 06:13:54 1999
From: sabinelr@email.msn.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Same thing happens with kde
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 22:13:54 -0800
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I have tried to run kde with two different installs. Each time all the kde
applications (kwm example supplied here) says this same thing:
kwm: error in loading shared libraries
/opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol:
resizeEvent__14QMultiLineEditP12QResizeEvent
It's probably something simple, but I am sure I don't know what.
Thanks
Larry
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From budr@sirinet.net Thu Apr 1 08:04:50 1999
From: budr@sirinet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Same thing happens with kde
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 02:04:50 -0600
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"Larry Sabine" writes:
> I have tried to run kde with two different installs. Each time all the kde
> applications (kwm example supplied here) says this same thing:
>=20
> kwm: error in loading shared libraries
> /opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol:
> resizeEvent__14QMultiLineEditP12QResizeEvent
Do you have Qt libs installed? If so, what version, and what version of
KDE? Sounds like the version of Qt libs it's finding are too old. I ran
into that once when I had an old version in /usr/local/qt and an newer
version in /usr/qt. Just a thought.
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From cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl Thu Apr 1 08:29:03 1999
From: cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] gnucash... only problems
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:29:03 +0200
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On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 01:17:30PM +0200, Wybo Dekker wrote:
>> Do you have '/usr/local/lib/' in '/etc/ld.so.conf' and did you run
>> '/sbin/ldconfig' as root?
>=20
> Yes, /usr/local/lib/ was there and I don't know if /sbin/ldconfig had
> been run, but after I did it, just to be sure, the results were the same...
Well, you have done all the obvious things correct.
I can't think of another matter to check.
Succes,
Cees.
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From im@hem.passagen.se Thu Apr 1 08:39:22 1999
From: im@hem.passagen.se
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Strange behavior of mp3 players...
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:39:22 +0200
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Why does my mp3 players (all i've tried) play mp3 files to slow?
No matter if i created them under linux or not they ALL run just
a tad to slow...
All Wav's and au's play fine...
I run 6.0 with 2.2.3 kernel on a PII 266/128 Mb
The soundcard is a SB16pnp...
I have tried the same software on a P133/64 Mb and a legacy SB16 card.
Same thing: Too slow...
Any ideas?
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From ljackson@techlinks.com Thu Apr 1 09:38:07 1999
From: ljackson@techlinks.com
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Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 01:38:07 -0800
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Hello:
Is there an appropriate place via YAST or the rc.config for that matter
where I can set the following:
/sbin/ipfwadm -F -p masquerade
..I have to manually run this every time I start my server in order for my
Win95 clients to have access to the net. I'd prefer if this were run
every time I start or re-start box Linux SuSE 6.0 box.
Also, are there additional ipfwadm commands/options I have to run in order
to permit UDP packets into my box? All my Win95 clients who listen to
RealAudio or RealVideo content via RTSP or PNA with UDP packets
don't come in. As a result, RealNetwork's smart networking
feature kicks in and sends them with a TCP header to get through. =20
Consequently, there's a poorer performance.
Thanks
Lester
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From ljackson@techlinks.com Thu Apr 1 09:46:03 1999
From: ljackson@techlinks.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Can't ping any Win95 client(s)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 01:46:03 -0800
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Sorry for the late reply.
First of all, you must have two ethernet cards. One for your firewall and
one for your network. eth0 is to the internet and eth1 is to your
network. If you have a direct connection to the net as I did, whether
DHCP or a static IP from your ISP, eth0 should be already configured. You
only need to:
route add -net 192.168.1.0 gw 192.168.1.1
..where 192.168.1.1 is the IP you assigned to your second ethernet card in
your server.
Set each Win95 client in your home/business to 192.168.1.x where X is
greater than 1 and less than 255. Set the gateway of each client to
192.168.1.1. Also set your DNS in your Win95 clients to all the IP's
found in your /etc/resolv.conf
The reason my IP's where getting messed up was because my dumb ISP was
using a DHCP server that didn't follow the RFC spec and was timing out
every 30 minutes. When it came to releasing my IP, it couldn't give it
back to me and was sending rubbage on the wire. Now that I have a static
IP, all is well.
Last but not least, you MUST call:
/sbin/ipfwadm -F -p masquerade
Why? I don't know. It's just required and it WORKS!
Good luck!
Lester
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Jack Chu wrote:
> Hey there Lester,
>=20
> I intend to do the same thing, but i also am running into the same problems
> as you. I can not ping my gateway with my Win95 Machine. Plus my route
> tables get messed up also. If you get an answer could you e-mail me with
> your solution also. Thanks
>=20
> Jack
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:05:19 -0800 (PST), ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > ...after recompiling my kernel with IP Forwarding and Masquerading
> > support. I can only ping my SuSE Linux gateway (i.e. eth1 with
> > 192.168.1.1) from any Win95 clients on my local network.
> > Given the output from the link to my dmesg/ifconfig/route
> > results web page posted at:
> >=20
> > http://www.techlinks.com/helpme.txt>
> >=20
> > ...is there anything obvious that would suggest what the problem may be?
> > I'm simply trying to configure my Linux box with two network cards...1 to
> > connect to my ADSL router and the other to connect to my internal network
> > (i.e. 192.168.1.0).
> >=20
> > Thanks
> >=20
> > Lester
> >=20
> > NOTE: If this is not an appropriate place to post this message, please
> > say so. I felt this border lined support/forum material. I'm merely
> > looking for other SuSE users who may have experienced this. Thanks
> again.
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From grimmer@suse.de Thu Apr 1 10:04:32 1999
From: grimmer@suse.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] YAST masquerade setting
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:04:32 +0200
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Hi,
On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote:
> Is there an appropriate place via YAST or the rc.config for that matter
> where I can set the following:
>=20
> /sbin/ipfwadm -F -p masquerade
>=20
> ..I have to manually run this every time I start my server in order for my
> Win95 clients to have access to the net. I'd prefer if this were run
> every time I start or re-start box Linux SuSE 6.0 box.
>=20
> Also, are there additional ipfwadm commands/options I have to run in
> order to permit UDP packets into my box? All my Win95 clients who
> listen to RealAudio or RealVideo content via RTSP or PNA with UDP
> packets don't come in. As a result, RealNetwork's smart networking
> feature kicks in and sends them with a TCP header to get through. =20
> Consequently, there's a poorer performance.
Have a look at the package "firewall". It will add the required variables
to /etc/rc.config to set up firewalling/masquerading.
Bye,
LenZ
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From kester@cwcom.net Thu Apr 1 11:36:07 1999
From: kester@cwcom.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PPP has me flummoxed!
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:36:07 +0100
Message-ID: <000701be7c53$a0fe4220$2b0d1280@kester>
In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] PPP has me flummoxed!>
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Have you used Yast to set the localhost name and your isp stuff? When you
say you can never get it too work, I presume you *can* get it to work
ocassionally? It's true, as many say on the list, that wvdial is very easy
to use and you can forget PPP, as it maintains the CHAP and PAP secrets
files automatically. Er, of course, you have to able to connect first in
order to download wvdial! ;-) Have you tried kppp? That's also an 'easy'
way in... but I would go with wvdial first. diald can be turned off using
'no' in answer to the question Yast poses for /etc/rc.config, or just edit
it yourself and run SuSEconfig.
k.
:My primary problem is that I can never get PPP to work more than a couple
:of times in a row -- that is, if I can get it to work at all, which is
:rare these days. I'm sure that it has something to do with my
:configuration, listed at the end of this mail, and especially with my
:hostname and machine name configuration. I have a stand-alone computer
:hooked into an ISP with a modem and have no immediate plans to network
:with my other Win98 computer at home. Do I even need a hostname or a
:machine name? I'm totally confused, and it seems that those of us with
:stand-alone systems are kind of glossed over in the how-to's and
:man-pages.
:
:Another problem is that I get the "cannot determine local host name, use
:the servername directive to set it manually" message every time I boot
:up. I plan to take LenZ Grimmer's suggestion to get that fixed up, and I
:suspect it's somehow related to my PPP problem.
:
:A second problem is that diald starts dialing away furiously upon bootup
:even before I can log on. Again, I will take the advice of others who
:have posted this month to the list.
:
:The final problem is that I can play all sorts of sounds on the media
:player when I'm in KDE, but KDE itself will only rarely play system
:sounds when I type in "kaudioserver" at a terminal prompt. I can live
:without sound, though I should demand it of my system since setting up
:the soundcard was such a nightmare.
:
:I've tinkered this PPP thing to death, am sure that I've bungled it up
:royally, but greatly appreciate the help I've gotten by gleaning the
:archives of this list back to early last summer. I only wish I had found
:this list sooner than about 10 days ago. I will do my best to help others
:who find themselves in sticky situations that I've somehow managed to
:avoid or climb of.
:
: -Mike McCullough
: Dallas, Texas
:
:
:
: -----------Pertinent file snippets below--------------
:
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:/etc/suseppp/diald/generic.diald file
:
:device /dev/ttyS2
: -m ppp
:speed 230400
:two-way
:local 127.0.0.3
:remote 206.124.64.253
:reroute
:defaultroute
:dynamic
:disconnect-timeout 120
:redial-timeout 30
:dial-fail-limit 5
:fifo /var/run/diald.ctl
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:
:
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:/etc/ppp/suseppp/chat-secrets file
:
:# example for /etc/ppp/suseppp/chat-secrets
:
:# client server pw iplist
:GTE/mccullm * mypassword
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:
:
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:/etc/hosts.conf file
:
:#
:# /etc/host.conf
:#
:# Automatically generated by SuSEconfig on Sun Mar 14 12:12:51 CST 1999.
:#
:# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
:#
:# Change variables (NAMESERVER + YP_SERVER) in /etc/rc.config instead.
:#
:#
:order hosts bind
:multi on
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:
:
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:/etc/hosts file (I think there is probably a problem here)
:
:#
:# hosts This file describes a number of hostname-to-address
:# mappings for the TCP/IP subsystem. It is mostly
:# used at boot time, when no name servers are running.
:# On small systems, this file can be used instead of a
:# "named" name server.
:# Syntax:
:#
:# IP-Address Full-Qualified-Hostname Short-Hostname
:#
:
:127.0.0.1 localhost
:127.0.0.2 texas texas
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:
:
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:/etc/suseppp/generic.options file
:
:#
:# /etc/suseppp
:#
:# Automatically generated by SuSEconfig on Sun Mar 14 12:44:59 _
:# CST 1999.
:#
:# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
:#
:# Change variables in /etc/rc.config instead
:#
:#
:
:name "GTE/mccullm"
::206.124.64.253
:noipdefault
:remotename gte.net
:mru 1500
:debug
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:
:
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:/etc/suseppp/generic.chat file
:
:TIMEOUT 60
:ABORT "NO CARRIER"
:ABORT BUSY
:ABORT "NO DIALTONE"
:ABORT ERROR
:"" +++ATZ
:OK ATDT214-210-0645
:CONNECT ""
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:
:
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:pertinent portions of /etc/rc.config file
:
:#
:# /etc/rc.config
:#
:# Copyright (c) 1996,98 SuSE GmbH Nuernberg, Germany. All rights _
:# reserved.
:#
:
:[snip]
:
:#
:# start loopback networking? ("yes" or "no")
:#
:START_LOOPBACK=3D"yes"
:
:#
:# networking
:#
:# number of network cards: "_0" for one, "_0 _1 _2 _3" for four cards
:#
:NETCONFIG=3D"_0"
:
:#
:# IP Adresses
:#
:IPADDR_0=3D""
:IPADDR_1=3D""
:IPADDR_2=3D""
:IPADDR_3=3D""
:
:#
:# network device names (e.g. "eth0")
:#
:NETDEV_0=3D"ppp0"
:NETDEV_1=3D""
:NETDEV_2=3D""
:NETDEV_3=3D""
:
:#
:# parameteres for ifconfig, if you put "bootp" into it, bootp will
:# be used to configure it
:# sample entry for ethernet:
:# IFCONFIG_0=3D"192.168.81.38 broadcast 192.168.81.63 netmask _
:# 255.255.255.224"
:#
:IFCONFIG_0=3D"0.0.0.0 pointopoint 0.0.0.0 up"
:IFCONFIG_1=3D""
:IFCONFIG_2=3D""
:IFCONFIG_3=3D""
:
:#
:# setup dummy network device for IPADDR_0? this is useful for non _
:# permanent network connections (e.g. SLIP, PPP). Some software _
:# needs a connection to FQHOSTNAME (e.g. plp). (yes, no)
:SETUPDUMMYDEV=3Dyes
:
:#
:# Do you want the "dynamic IP patch" to be enabled at bootup? (yes/no)
:#
:IP_DYNIP=3Dno
:
:#
:# 2 you can configure at runtime, if the host may forward
:# IP packages or not. Is this host a router? (yes/no)
:#
:IP_FORWARD=3Dno
:
:
:#
:# SuSEconfig can do some checks and modifications for /etc/hosts.
:# If this is not wanted, set the following variable to 'no' (yes, no).
:#
:CHECK_ETC_HOSTS=3Dyes
:
:#
:# If CHECK_ETC_HOSTS is set to yes, SuSEconfig sorts your
:# /etc/hosts. But in some cases this may be unwanted. So here is a
:# flag, where you can configure if /etc/hosts should be "beautified".
:# (yes/no)
:#
:BEAUTIFY_ETC_HOSTS=3Dyes
:
:#
:# if SORT_PASSWD_BY_UID is set to yes, SuSEconfig sorts your
:# /etc/passwd and /etc/group by uid/gid.
:#
:SORT_PASSWD_BY_UID=3Dno
:
:
:#
:# hostname of the system (full name)
:# if zero, and bootp is used above, bootp will also set the hostname
:# (e.g. "riemann.suse.de" or "hugo.linux.de")
:# don't forget to also edit /etc/hosts for your system
:#
:FQHOSTNAME=3D"texas"
:
:[snip]
:
:#
:# Should NIS be used for name resolving (yes/no)
:#
:USE_NIS_FOR_RESOLVING=3Dno
:
:#
:# domain searchlist that should be used in /etc/resolv.conf
:# (e.g. "suse.de linux.de uni-stuttgart.de")
:# Attention! this has to be filled out, if you want to access a _
:# name server
:#
:SEARCHLIST=3D"gte.net"
:
:#
:# space separated list of nameservers that should be used for _
:# /etc/resolv.conf
:# give a maximum of 3 IP numbers
:# (e.g. "192.168.116.11 192.168.7.7")
:#
:NAMESERVER=3D"206.124.64.253 206.124.65.253"
:
:#
:# Used for News-Postings.
:#
:ORGANIZATION=3D""
:
:#
:# News server.
:#
:NNTPSERVER=3D"news"
:
:#
:# space separated list of irc servers
:#
:IRCSERVER=3D""
:
:#
:# start the inet daemon in multi-user? ("yes" or "no")
:# this is needed, if you have to telnet/rlogin to your own machine.
:# It is also needed for the man page formatter in SuSE Help system
:# and for starting the plp lp daemon.
:#
:START_INETD=3D"no"
:
:[snip]
:
:#
:# start routed (for dynamic routing - see man routed) (yes/no)
:# ATTENTION: starting routed causes net traffic every 30 seconds.
:# If your host is connected to internet via dial-up it makes
:# absolutely no sense to activate it.
:#
:START_ROUTED=3Dno
:
:#
:# start the named (package bind)? You have to configure the named
:# first, before you can start it (man named).
:#
:START_NAMED=3Dno
:
:[snip]
:
:#
:# search net paths as ? (e.g. nobody)
:#
:UPDATEDB_NETUSER=3D""
:
:[snip]
:
:#
:# SuSE-PPP settings
:#
:
:# Provider name. `SuSEConfig -list` returns a list of possible
:# entries
:PPP_PROVIDER_0=3D"generic"
:
:# Login name
:PPP_USERNAME_0=3D"GTE/mccullm"
:
:# Set debug option?
:PPP_DEBUG_0=3D"yes"
:
:# pppd options; e.g. "-vj mru=3D1500, asyncmap=3D0"
:PPP_OPTIONS_0=3D"mru=3D1500"
:
:# Set defaultroute?
:PPP_DEFAULT_ROUTE_0=3D"yes"
:
:# This parameter is optional.
:# Authentification (PAP, CHAP, TERMINAL)
:PPP_AUTHENT_0=3D"PAP"
:
:# These parameters are optional
:# Name, IP address of the remote system
:
:PPP_REMOTENAME_0=3D"gte.net"
:PPP_REMOTEIP_0=3D"206.124.64.253"
:
:# Name, IP address of the local system
:PPP_LOCALIP_0=3D""
:PPP_LOCALNAME_0=3D""
:
:# These parameters are optional and
:# should be obtained from provider database
:# nameserver of the peer
:PPP_NAMESERVER_0=3D"206.124.64.253 206.124.65.253"
:
:# http proxy server
:PPP_WWW_PROXY_0=3D""
:
:# news server
:PPP_NEWS_0=3D""
:
:# This parameter is obsolete
:PPP_SETUP_NETWORK_0=3D""
:
:# Remote station phone number
:PPP_REMOTE_OUT_0=3D"214-210-0645"
:
:# Device to dial out
:PPP_DEVICE_0=3D"/dev/ttyS2"
:
:# Modem settings
:# Here you can do some special initializing for your modem.
:
:# Obtain the correct string from your vendors manual
:MODEM_INIT_0=3D"ATZ"
:
:# Modem speed (e.g. 57600)
:MODEM_SPEED_0=3D"230400"
:
:# This string will be placed before the number
:# to dial the modem. This can also be used to
:# to get a line (e.g. "ATDT0w")
:MODEM_DIAL_MODE_0=3D"ATDT"
:
:# start diald?
:PPP_DIALD_0=3D"yes"
:
:[snip to end]
:
:
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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:
:
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:Output of route -n (definitely a problem here!)
:
:Kernel IP routing table
:Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
:206.124.64.253 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 1 0 1 sl0
:127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
:0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 1 0 1 sl0
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:
:
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:Output of pppstats
:
:
:IN PACK VJCOMP VJUNC VJERR | OUT PACK VJCOMP VJUNC NON-VJ
: 0 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 0
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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:
:
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:Output of pertinent portions of dmesg (hmmm, last line is bothersome)
:
:[snip]
:
:Probing PCI hardware.
:Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 400.59 BogoMIPS
:Memory: 127712k/131008k available (768k kernel code, 384k reserved, _
: 2144k data)
:Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
:NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
:Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034
:IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
:Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
:Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
:Linux version 2.0.36 (root(a)Texas) (gcc driver version egcs-2.91.60 _
: 19981201 (egcs-1.1.1 release) executing gcc version 2.7.2.3) #18 _
: Thu Mar 4 19:52:41 CST 1999
:
:[snip]
:
:PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation)
:TCP compression code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of _
: California
:PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc.
:PPP line discipline registered.
:SLIP: version 0.8.4-NET3.019-NEWTTY (dynamic channels, max=3D256).
:CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California.
:SLIP linefill/keepalive option.
:Partition check:
: hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 > hda4
:VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
:Adding Swap: 130748k swap-space (priority -1)
:ttyS2: 1 input overrun(s)
:PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation)
:PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc.
:PPP line discipline registered.
:registered device ppp0
:PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistered
:PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation)
:PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc.
:PPP line discipline registered.
:registered device ppp0
:PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistered
:
:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:
:
:_____________________________________
:Michael R. McCullough
:Manager, Regulatory Affairs and Compliance
:Mary Kay Holding Corporation
:Dallas, Texas
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:flesh-and-blood human being with feeling and emotions like our own."
:
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From zentara@mindspring.com Thu Apr 1 12:08:42 1999
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] weird Netscape451_glibc problem
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 07:08:42 -0500
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hhv wrote:
>=20
> zentara wrote:
> > gives me an error message:
> > "cannot load libm.so.5" and then
> > it proceeds to run fine.
> >
> > An ldd of the executable shows no dependency at
> > all for libm.so.5, and furthermore, I have libm.so.5.09
> > in my cache.
> > Anyone knows what gives? Why did it run fine yesterday, and today
> > give this message? I find this worrisome.
>=20
> Try to link libm.so.5.09 to libm.so.5
>=20
> I haven't yet installed 4.51 yet. But I checked 4.5
> It's not linked against libm, but against libg++ and libstdc++, which
> inturn are linked against libm.
>=20
I checked the rvplayer5.0 (RealAudio) which I have setup for netscape,
and it needs libm.so.5, according to it's ldd.
It works fine, but gives that message.
Maybe RealAudio is building executables that can use
either libc5 or libc6?
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From zentara@mindspring.com Thu Apr 1 12:12:15 1999
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Seattle Times: States want Microsoft to auction off
Windows coding
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 07:12:15 -0500
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"Fred A. Miller" wrote:
>=20
> zentara wrote:
> >
> > "Fred A. Miller" wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.seattletimes.com/news/local/html98/micx_19990328.html>
> >
> > I'll bid 5 bucks $US.
>=20
> 'You sure it isn't too much?
>=20
Well to be fair, I should cover the cdrom and postage costs. :-)
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From sinthetk@inlink.com Thu Apr 1 12:38:21 1999
From: sinthetk@inlink.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Same thing happens with kde
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 06:38:21 -0600
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Larry Sabine wrote:
>=20
> I have tried to run kde with two different installs. Each time all the kde
> applications (kwm example supplied here) says this same thing:
>=20
> kwm: error in loading shared libraries
> /opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol:
> resizeEvent__14QMultiLineEditP12QResizeEvent
>=20
> It's probably something simple, but I am sure I don't know what.
> Thanks
> Larry
> Certified Seat Filler
I had the same problem, I downloaded all the new files...and KDE puked
at every turn. I had qt 1.42 installed..and everything looked all good.
I got the same errors, and after several hours of messing with it..I
just smiled and thanked god for my pretty and functional WindowMaker
0.51.2 :)
I would be interest in knowing the solution to this problem..cause hell
even when I reinstall the older version off the 6.0 cd's it fails..and I
can figure out why..the only other program that I can't seem to get to
behave is GNUcash, but that is another story. *laugh*
laters,
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From sinthetk@inlink.com Thu Apr 1 12:50:22 1999
From: sinthetk@inlink.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture?
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 06:50:22 -0600
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nothing against kppp, but i seem to see everyone having lots of problems
with it and no one seems to be trying ezppp or xisp which work without
much of a headache...give either of those a try..I have used both. Right
now I am fond of ezppp :)
Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
>=20
> Yatsen Ng wrote:
> >
> > I configured Kppp (in the KDE wm) and initially I get a connection but
> > then it dies (unexpectedly! - is this a joke? Was he shot? I imagine
> > that if he'd died after long term illness he died 'expectedly'). Why is
> > that? I didn't do anything out of the ordinary nor did I add any
> >
>=20
> More than likely it is one or both of two possibilities:
> 1. Your /etc/ppp/option file has a line starting with "Lock" in it.
> Empty that file.
> 2. Your /usr/sbin/pppd file is lacking su permission. As root issue
> "chmod a+s /usr/sbin/pppd". Unless you change /etc/permissions to tell
> YaST what you want on pppd it will strip suid off of pppd every time it
> is run.
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From raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu Thu Apr 1 13:32:00 1999
From: raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound on 2.2.x kernels
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 08:32:00 -0500
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The version for 2.0.36 would run on kernels up to 2.0.99 :) You just
have to go to http://www.4front-tech.com/> for the newest versio=
n and
upgrade.
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 1 13:32:43 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] weird Netscape451_glibc problem
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:32:43 +0200
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zentara wrote:
>=20
>=20
> I checked the rvplayer5.0 (RealAudio) which I have setup for netscape,
> and it needs libm.so.5, according to it's ldd.
> It works fine, but gives that message.
> Maybe RealAudio is building executables that can use
> either libc5 or libc6?
Sorry, cant comment on that. I'm not using *players
Henning
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From phostetl@columbus.rr.com Thu Apr 1 14:06:41 1999
From: phostetl@columbus.rr.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] YAST masquerade setting
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:06:41 -0500
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On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
> Have a look at the package "firewall". It will add the required variables
> to /etc/rc.config to set up firewalling/masquerading.
Will it permit DHCP on one NIC and a static IP (192.168.0.x) on another?
I get a DHCP address from Road Runner. I don't recall seeing an answer to
this question.
Thanks,
Paul Hostetler
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From grimmer@suse.de Thu Apr 1 14:26:51 1999
From: grimmer@suse.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] YAST masquerade setting
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:26:51 +0200
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Hi,
On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Paul Hostetler wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
> > Have a look at the package "firewall". It will add the required variables
> > to /etc/rc.config to set up firewalling/masquerading.
>=20
> Will it permit DHCP on one NIC and a static IP (192.168.0.x) on
> another? I get a DHCP address from Road Runner. I don't recall seeing
> an answer to this question.
No, this does not work with the current DHCP client configuration - sorry!
Bye,
LenZ
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From paulken@metaphor.no Thu Apr 1 14:39:25 1999
From: paulken@metaphor.no
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Networking, DHCP
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:39:25 +0100
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This week we were having a little work session where we needed to set up
four PCs in a network. We borrowed a hub and an ISDN router and set out
to do our thing.
Put in the ip addresses for the network cards, and checked the set up of
networking options, and connected the computers to the network. No joy.
Tried two computers with a crossed network cable. No joy. Tried the same
in windows. Much joy.
OK, tried the DHCP setup from yast. No joy. Just one packet got through
from one of the computers (could see the router dialing) but then
nothing.
In windows, joy.
What on earth is going on here, I've done this before, (just networking
two comps off one crossed TP cable) and it worked flawlessly.
Anything?
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From senthil@easi.soft.net Thu Apr 1 14:44:01 1999
From: senthil@easi.soft.net
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Boot floppy Error
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 20:14:01 +0530
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Hi,
When I boot from the installation boot floppy, I get error like :
boot:
loading linux ....
error 0x10
What does that signify ? Also how do I create a duplicate installation
boot floppy. So that I can keep my original safe.
Also what does the error " error 0x9" signify for the above mentioned
problem ?
Regards,
Senthil Vel
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From Burt_Philip@emc.com Thu Apr 1 15:01:56 1999
From: Burt_Philip@emc.com
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture?
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:01:56 -0500
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Just last night, I got kppp working with my modem. The modem was the
biggest pain (pnp Boca SoundExpression combo sound/modem card -- had to
disable pnp OS setting from BIOS, and configure the modem to be on ttyS3).
Once I had the modem working (verified with minicom), kppp was a cinch!
The biggest problems I had with kppp were caused by Yast setting the
permissions on pppd incorrectly. As a newbie, I didn't want to deal with
the low-level ppp crud right away. Kppp did a nice job of hiding this from
me.
I feel that the biggest improvement that could be made to kppp is in the
area of diagnostics. As a newbie, I had a tough time figuring out where the
output from pppd was getting dumped. I also had a tough time figuring out
that my ISP might not be using the "default" ppp login method (mine uses
CHAP). Give me a couple weeks and maybe I will attempt to add these
enhancements.
First I had to download and compile 2.2.4 to get the framebuffer device
working so I could use my S3 Trio3D graphics card. Then I had to pound on
my crazy modem. Sound is the next challenge! Wish me luck.
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picture?
nothing against kppp, but i seem to see everyone having lots of problems
with it and no one seems to be trying ezppp or xisp which work without
much of a headache...give either of those a try..I have used both. Right
now I am fond of ezppp :)
Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
>=20
> Yatsen Ng wrote:
> >
> > I configured Kppp (in the KDE wm) and initially I get a connection but
> > then it dies (unexpectedly! - is this a joke? Was he shot? I imagine
> > that if he'd died after long term illness he died 'expectedly'). Why is
> > that? I didn't do anything out of the ordinary nor did I add any
> >
>=20
> More than likely it is one or both of two possibilities:
> 1. Your /etc/ppp/option file has a line starting with "Lock" in it.
> Empty that file.
> 2. Your /usr/sbin/pppd file is lacking su permission. As root issue
> "chmod a+s /usr/sbin/pppd". Unless you change /etc/permissions to tell
> YaST what you want on pppd it will strip suid off of pppd every time it
> is run.
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From imm@KidsCare.Net Thu Apr 1 15:12:18 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] ctrl alt fkey :(
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:12:18 -0600
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When I switch from kde F7 to one of the other terminals F1 - F6 it
sometimes goes black doesn't do anything.Ctrl Alt F? doesn't help at all.
Ctrl Alt Backspace does not work and i have to turn power off i hate this
because I switch between terminals and kde often. Recently I have
installed AcceleratedX 5.0 and=20
also upgraded kde to 1.1.
Any info much appreciated=20
Thank you
Ian Moore
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From ljackson@techlinks.com Thu Apr 1 15:31:25 1999
From: ljackson@techlinks.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Networking, DHCP
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 07:31:25 -0800
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Paul:
Tell me about the configuration of your server. Are there 2 ethernet
cards or 1? What results when you execute /sbin/ifconfig and /sbin/route?
I'm assuming you are assigning static IP's to each Win32 client on your
network.
Lester
On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Paul Kenneth Egell-Johnsen wrote:
>=20
> This week we were having a little work session where we needed to set up
> four PCs in a network. We borrowed a hub and an ISDN router and set out
> to do our thing.
>=20
> Put in the ip addresses for the network cards, and checked the set up of
> networking options, and connected the computers to the network. No joy.
> Tried two computers with a crossed network cable. No joy. Tried the same
> in windows. Much joy.
>=20
> OK, tried the DHCP setup from yast. No joy. Just one packet got through
> from one of the computers (could see the router dialing) but then
> nothing.
>=20
> In windows, joy.
>=20
> What on earth is going on here, I've done this before, (just networking
> two comps off one crossed TP cable) and it worked flawlessly.
>=20
> Anything?
> --=20
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From p.may@fh-wolfenbuettel.de Thu Apr 1 15:35:59 1999
From: p.may@fh-wolfenbuettel.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] YAST masquerade setting
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:35:59 +0200
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On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote:
> Hello:
> Is there an appropriate place via YAST or the rc.config for that matter
> where I can set the following:
> /sbin/ipfwadm -F -p masquerade
> Thanks
> Lester
place a
/sbin/masquerade
in the /sbin/init.d/boot.local file
now make a /sbin/masquerade file with
-----------8<-----------------
#!/bin/sh
#
#FIREWALL
#
echo "Firewall and Masquerading on"
ipfwadm -I -p accept
ipfwadm -I -f
ipfwadm -O -p accept
ipfwadm -O -f
ipfwadm -F -p deny
ipfwadm -F -f
ipfwadm -F -a masquerade -S 192.168.66.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0
-----------8<-----------------
in it. and make it executable.
now reboot and it sets it on each reboot automaticly.
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From brauki@cityweb.de Thu Apr 1 15:50:16 1999
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Subject: Re: R: [SuSE Linux] Letter to editor.... keeps Linux on the badlist
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Karsten Johansson wrote:
>=20
> zentara wrote:
> >
> > Someone recently wrote:
> >
> > > >There is a verse in the Bible, "arrogance comes before the fall." I
> > > >personally hope that by in large, Linux users will show themselves to
> > > >more than a bunch of "hackers' or "save-the-whale" types
> >
> > I think that Bible quote should be directed at Mr. Bill Gates.
>=20
> Forget what happens before the fall. I want to see what happens in mid-
> summer. :)
>=20
hmmmm. nothing, what else?
Juergen
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From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Thu Apr 1 15:52:41 1999
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Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:52:41 +0200
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I'd love to see the EULA for a Microsoft Chair (or stool).
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From WALKERSC@CIBC.CA Thu Apr 1 16:09:00 1999
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] YAST masquerade setting
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 11:09:00 -0500
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It is very simple to set up. Below is my config info
=20
Paranoid.snurgle.org <- main linux box hooked up via ADSL
\-192.168.1.1 <- Internal IP
\- 209.226.67.216 Assigned ip via DHCP
=20
ETH0 =3D Attached to cable modem
ETH1 =3D Attached to internal network
=20
All I did was, use yast to run the dhclient on eth0 9Altho the client=20
they give out it crap, I had to compile my own, 1.3.16 I belever the=20
version I use is), I then bring up ETH1, assign it's ip, and ipchains=20
to setup ip masq, and viola it works. I can go into more details if=20
you want. But it was quite simple.
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] YAST masquerade setting
Author: "Bob Easton" [SMTP:reaston(a)stny.lrun.com] at BCEEXCH
Date: 3/31/99 10:56 AM
On 1 Apr 99, at 16:26, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
=20
>
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Paul Hostetler wrote:=20
>
> > On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
> > > Have a look at the package "firewall". It will add the required
variables=20
> > > to /etc/rc.config to set up firewalling/masquerading.
> >
> > Will it permit DHCP on one NIC and a static IP (192.168.0.x) on
> > another? I get a DHCP address from Road Runner. I don't recall seeing=20
> > an answer to this question.
>
> No, this does not work with the current DHCP client configuration - sorry!
>
=20
LenZ,
=20
What is the status of this development? [Not nagging here but I=20
*think* this works on RedHat, but I could be wrong.] I too wish=20
to use a SuSE box as my gateway between RoadRunner and my local=20
network. Is there *any* configuration that will work? I thought=20
I read something about having two dissimilar NICs (and drivers)=20
made things work. I'm about to buy a VA Research system and may=20
have to resort to RedHat (e-gads) if there is no way around=20
this! The RR system requires DHCP - but how about if I run DHCP=20
on my local network as well? Will SuSE run a DHCP client on one=20
NIC and a DHCP server on another? That is to say, is the problem=20
mainly with having a *static IP* on one NIC while running DHCP=20
on the other? Can we expect a fix for this soon?
=20
Thanks in advance,
Bob
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From hlarons@ComCAT.COM Thu Apr 1 16:48:02 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Mysterious /var/log Message
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 11:48:02 -0500
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I just upgraded from kernel 2.0.33 to 2.0.36 via patch files from=20
SuSE's ftp site. Patching and compilation were error free; the new=20
kernel boots OK.
Here's the mystery: I have PPP support compiled into the kernel, and=20
the usual PPP stuff is in the boot message. But, when I launch pppd in=20
my dialer script, these lines appears in /var/log/messages:
Apr 1 10:58:51 localhost modprobe: can't locate module ppp0
Apr 1 10:58:51 localhost kernel: registered device ppp0
Why on earth is modprobe trying to load this?
Howard Arons
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From Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net Thu Apr 1 17:08:20 1999
From: Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Automatic module loading?
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:08:20 -0800
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Just recently I installed a parallel port based Zip250 drive on my box.
It works quite well with the "imm" driver that the Zip plus drive uses.=20
I manually loaded the imm driver using insmod but when I tried to mount
the Zip drive as a VFAT file system a bunch of errors spewed out of the
kernel. I had built all of the FAT filesystem stuff into modules and I
thought that modules would be loaded automatically. I ran "modprobe
vfat" and then I was able to mount my Zip drive. Is there some trick to
get modules to load/unload automatically? I see that things like my
network card driver and sound stuff load automatically when needed but
this doesn't seem to be the case for the FAT filesystem stuff.=20
My solution at this point will be to try loading the necessary modules
for the zip drive from /sbin/init.d/boot.local.=20
Thanks,
Tony
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 1 17:30:04 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ctrl alt fkey :(
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 19:30:04 +0200
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"Ian M. Moore" wrote:
>=20
> When I switch from kde F7 to one of the other terminals F1 - F6 it
> sometimes goes black doesn't do anything.=20
Although not working with kde, only X with some other WM, this
happens to me sometmes, too.
> Ctrl Alt F? doesn't help at all.
because, if one vga console is 'black, the others are too.
> Ctrl Alt Backspace does not work=20
because you are out of X/kde
and i have to turn power off i hate this
That shouldn't be necessary. (Has never been necessary for me)
If I encounter this, I simply switch several times back and forth=20
between vga and graphics screen. Mostly after the second or third=20
try the vga screen re-appeares.
Henning
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Just the way I like it! Cheers!
Karsten Johansson
PS: April Fools, all... Scary thing for me is that it is also my payday. I=
f=20
my accountant sez "April Fools" I'm gonna throw him. :)
Juergen Braukmann wrote:
> Karsten Johansson wrote:
> >=20
> > zentara wrote:
> > >
> > > Someone recently wrote:
> > >
> > > > >There is a verse in the Bible, "arrogance comes before the fall." I
> > > > >personally hope that by in large, Linux users will show themselves=
to
> > > > >more than a bunch of "hackers' or "save-the-whale" types
> > >
> > > I think that Bible quote should be directed at Mr. Bill Gates.
> >=20
> > Forget what happens before the fall. I want to see what happens in mid-
> > summer. :)
> >=20
>=20
> hmmmm. nothing, what else?
>=20
> Juergen
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Humor...
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:04:46 -0800
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On 1 Apr, Ole Kofoed Hansen wrote:
>=20
>=20
> I'd love to see the EULA for a Microsoft Chair (or stool).
>=20
The EULA for the MicroSoft certified chair. The Microsoft chair is now
shipping. This chair includes some basic changes from the original
design implementation. Microsoft development sources cite the removal
of one leg as leading to more streamlined and optimized use. In
addition the new design provides quick detachment of unwanted device
drivers.
Please read the attached licensing documentation carefully. Microsoft
does not provide support for any injuries being caused by use of the
new Microsoft chair. Please do not lean to the left if you purchased
version 1.2 as that version is slightly buggy and was found to ship with
only two legs on the right side. We have corrected that problem,
sources close to Redmond say, and are now moving on to implementing NT
4 workstation optimization. When the chair disengages now we will see
a Blue Screen on the backrest stating what failed and what to do in the
future.
Thanks for buying the Microsoft Chair. Now be careful. The Microsoft
Chair development team thank you for purchasing innovative hardware
from the source of innovation. Broken arms and legs resulting from
accidental detachment are not the responsibility of Microsoft
Corporation.
Copyright 1999 and 1492, MS Corporation.
--=20
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Can anyone please tell me where a package exists that will give me this
specific file upon compiling it or installing via RPM?
I really want to get GNUcash working. :)
danke,
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Ole Kofoed Hansen wrote:
>=20
> I'd love to see the EULA for a Microsoft Chair (or stool).
>=20
I'll bet they would include a statement
"not responsible for viruses being passed via the chair" :-)
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From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Thu Apr 1 20:03:15 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Linux in the card interresting subject, hobby product
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 22:03:15 +0200
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Hi all,
I have found this project on http://freshmeat.net/>. The link is:
http://utter.chaos.org.uk/~altman/mp3=
mobile/> and
http://www.ptsi.net/user/compuwiz/ind=
ex.html>
Regards,
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:15:35 -0800
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"Richard Ibbotson" wrote:
>=20
> I get the impression that the music and composing side of things=20
> could be improved a bit ?
You got the right impression. :)
Linux has nothing to compare with Logic Audio and that sort of thing. It has=
=20
some cheesey sequencers, but they are not very good, and are far from=20
professional quality and feature expectations.
I think Linux has done well in the graphics department, and is continually=20
getting better. I guess there are more visual artists than audio artists in =
the Linux world.
Laters,
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http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.html=
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From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Thu Apr 1 21:06:54 1999
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Dear all,
I found this article. Linus will move to Moscow to develop Linux for the
Elbrus processor.
http://www.sl=
ashdot.org/articles/99/03/31/2324218.shtml> .
Elbrus processor: http://www.elbrus.ru/pressrele=
ase.html> .
http:/=
/www.elbrus.ru/>
Regards,
Joop Boonen.
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From alex@daniloff.com Thu Apr 1 21:24:50 1999
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Hello all!
If I assumed correctly it was a First April Joke!
Take a closer look at these pictures.
The most of them are fakes
Thank=20
Alex
At 09:59 PM 4/1/99 , you wrote:
>
>
>http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.html<=
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From zentara@mindspring.com Thu Apr 1 21:25:45 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Fortify for Netscape questions.
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:25:45 -0500
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Hi,
I got the latest version of Fortify
from=20
ht=
tp://www.fortify.net/>
to upgrade the security on the export
version of Netscape451_glibc.
I got it to work, but I compiled it myself from
source instead of using the precompiled binaries.
I found it odd that my compiled binaries
were roughly 5 times as large as the precompiled
ones.
My binaries:
-rwxr--r-- 1 zentara dialout 770651 Apr 1 16:02 fortify
-rwxr--r-- 1 zentara dialout 454499 Apr 1 16:02 md5
Precompiled binaries:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 zentara dialout 154948 Mar 30 09:36 fortify
-rwxr-xr-x 1 zentara dialout 99324 Mar 30 09:36 md5
Anyone know why the size discrepancy? I can see a few K,
but 500 percent?
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From billmadsen@mindspring.com Thu Apr 1 21:27:49 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Segmentation fault with GNOME's freecell
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I keep getting a segmentation fault message when I try to start
freecell under GNOME. I have installed all the recommended rpm's for
Gnome , and I have encountered no problems. But I installed only
freecell (with the cardgames library) from the games rpm because it's
the only computer game I play. =20
Is there perhaps another program or library included in the games rpm
that I should have installed? Or is there a problem with freecell?
I have 64MB of swap space and 32MB of RAM.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Bill Madsen in St. Louis
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From imm@KidsCare.Net Thu Apr 1 21:29:43 1999
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Subject: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] ctrl alt fkey :(
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h.vossieck(a)ndh.net writes:
>because you are out of X/kde
>
>and i have to turn power off i hate this
>
>That shouldn't be necessary. (Has never been necessary for me)
>If I encounter this, I simply switch several times back and forth=20
>between vga and graphics screen. Mostly after the second or third=20
>try the vga screen re-appeares.
The first time this happened I let it set for 1/2 hour then I tried
switching consoles nothing werked.
Thanks,
Ian the sane
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alexm wrote:
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> http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.html=
>
>=20
See Bill Gate's reaction to the Linux riot!!!
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 1 22:27:51 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] libjpeg.so.62
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 00:27:51 +0200
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"Benjamin A. Rosenberg" wrote:
>=20
> Can anyone please tell me where a package exists that will give me this
> specific file upon compiling it or installing via RPM?
> I really want to get GNUcash working. :)
ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/j=
peg/jpegsrc.v6b.tar.gz>
The same is contained in the following rpm:
ftp://contr=
ib.redhat.com/libc6/SRPMS/libjpeg-6b-7.src.rpm>
Henning
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Mysterious /var/log Message
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Howard Arons wrote:
>=20
> Apr 1 10:58:51 localhost modprobe: can't locate module ppp0
> Apr 1 10:58:51 localhost kernel: registered device ppp0
>=20
> Why on earth is modprobe trying to load this?
Because your /etc/conf.modules doesn't contain the line
alias ppp0 off
Presumably there is a line 'alias ppp0 ppp". Change it accordingly.
Henning
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Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 00:41:54 +0200
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I removed the line 'Modem Lock File' in kppp setup but that didn't really
give me resulta that were satisfactory. It still died (unexpectedly).
How exactly do I remove 'Lock' from /etc/ppp/options ? I'm going through a
book called "Mastering Linux" but I didn't reach the part where they explain
how to edit files yet. They do explain some basic things but they don't
really go in depth.
Stefan Troeger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 17:03 +0200, Yatsen Ng wrote:
>
> > I configured Kppp (in the KDE wm) and initially I get a connection but
> > then it dies (unexpectedly! - is this a joke? Was he shot? I imagine
> > that if he'd died after long term illness he died 'expectedly'). Why is
> > that? I didn't do anything out of the ordinary nor did I add any
> > options.
>
> Remove the `lock' from /etc/ppp/options.
>
> Ciao,
> Stefan
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture?
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:00:00 -0600
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"Burt, Philip" wrote:
>=20
> Just last night, I got kppp working with my modem. The modem was the
> biggest pain (pnp Boca SoundExpression combo sound/modem card -- had to
> disable pnp OS setting from BIOS, and configure the modem to be on ttyS3).
> Once I had the modem working (verified with minicom), kppp was a cinch!
>=20
> The biggest problems I had with kppp were caused by Yast setting the
> permissions on pppd incorrectly. As a newbie, I didn't want to deal with
> the low-level ppp crud right away. Kppp did a nice job of hiding this from
> me.
>=20
YaST looks up permissions in /etc/permissions and you can change them to
what you want.
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound on 2.2.x kernels
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That's good to see!
"W.D.McKinney" wrote:
>=20
> Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
> >
> > Nick wrote:
> > >
> > > A freind of mine just upgraded to the 2.2.4 kernel and he was previous
> > > running the 2.0.36 kernel (he was using oss for sound no problem) when =
he
> > > upgrade however, it seems the new kernel 2.2.4 (not sure about the 2.2.x
> > > kernels before 2.2.4) does not support OSS, he hasnt gotten it working
> > > under this kernel at least. and this is what he claims. Any
> > > ideas/comments/suggestions?
> > >
> >
> > Not right now, but I'm sure I will when I run into the same problem this
> > May when SuSE 6.1 comes out and I putz around to get sound working
> > again...
>=20
> Hmmm.......
> # uname -a
> Linux wdm 2.2.5 #1 SMP Mon Mar 29 23:33:28 AKST 1999 i586 SuSE 6.0
>=20
> cat /dev/sndstat
> OSS/Linux 3.9.2g (C) 4Front Technologies 1996-1999
>=20
> License serial number: XXXXXXXXXX
> Options: AWE
> This copy of OSS is licensed to Dee McKinney
>=20
> Build: 2.2.5-SMP
>=20
> Card config:
> Generic PnP support
> SoundBlaster AWE64 Gold at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1,5
> OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388
> SB MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 5
> Emu 8000 Synthesizer Engine at 0x620
>=20
> Audio devices:
> 0: Creative SB AWE64 Gold (4.16) (DUPLEX)
> 1: SB secondary device (DUPLEX)
>=20
> Synth devices:
> 0: Yamaha OPL-3
> 1: AWE32-0.4.2 (RAM4096k)
>=20
> Midi devices:
> 0: Sound Blaster 16
>=20
> Timers:
> 0: System clock
>=20
> Mixers:
> 0: Sound Blaster
> 1: AWE32 Equalizer
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>=20
> Head to http://www.4front-tech.com> and upgrade your copy of OSS=
/Linux to
> one for the newer kernel.
>=20
> Best Regards
> -Dee
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From jlkreps@navix.net Thu Apr 1 23:27:25 1999
From: jlkreps@navix.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture?
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:27:25 -0600
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Yatsen Ng wrote:
>=20
> I removed the line 'Modem Lock File' in kppp setup but that didn't really
> give me resulta that were satisfactory. It still died (unexpectedly).
Take another look at the advice given below, the line about the
/etc/ppp/option file.
Leave the line in the kppp setup alone.
>=20
> How exactly do I remove 'Lock' from /etc/ppp/options ? I'm going through a
> book called "Mastering Linux" but I didn't reach the part where they explain
> how to edit files yet. They do explain some basic things but they don't
> really go in depth.
>=20
> Stefan Troeger wrote:
>=20
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 17:03 +0200, Yatsen Ng wrote:
> >
> > > I configured Kppp (in the KDE wm) and initially I get a connection but
> > > then it dies (unexpectedly! - is this a joke? Was he shot? I imagine
> > > that if he'd died after long term illness he died 'expectedly'). Why is
> > > that? I didn't do anything out of the ordinary nor did I add any
> > > options.
> >
> > Remove the `lock' from /etc/ppp/options.
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Stefan
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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Thu Apr 1 23:46:24 1999
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 18:46:24 -0500
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Did this really happen? I have been in the lab all day and haven't heard
any news. I did a quick search on the net and didn't see anything else on
it. I must admit I laughed my butt off reading the article. I'm a member
of a satanic cult? Wow! I never knew. Man, if that is any reflection of
the folks who use that other distribution, I'm more happy than ever to be
here with SuSE.
Someone please post some verifying information on this riot. The main
reason I tend to believe this happened is that no one could make up a story
as absurd as this.
I must admit I am more inclined to put my efforts into making Linux a
viable alternative to MS products than I am to go bash Gate's skull in.
Hey he made what the world wanted. He won the capitalist game. MS has
made incredible contributions to the computer industry. I don't like
everything they have done, but sheez, the Unix nerds got over-run by Gates
because he asked "what does the users want and need on the desktop?" Yea I
talk trash about MS products. You should have heard me today when MS-SQL
kept refusing to start. The fact of the matter is, the reason people go to
MS products is because they increase productivity. If we OSS'rs want to
win the OS game the thing to do is build a better product, not storm MS-HQ.
alexm wrote:
> http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.html=
>
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:27:53 -0800
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On Thu, Apr 01, 1999, Steven T. Hatton wr=
ote:
>=20
> Did this really happen? I have been in the lab all day and haven't heard
> any news. I did a quick search on the net and didn't see anything else on
> it. I must admit I laughed my butt off reading the article. I'm a member
> of a satanic cult? Wow! I never knew. Man, if that is any reflection of
> the folks who use that other distribution, I'm more happy than ever to be
> here with SuSE.
You may want to look at what date it is :)
JE
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From mcdo148@ibm.net Fri Apr 2 00:27:54 1999
From: mcdo148@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] I'M STUMPED - MODEM RECOGNIZED BUT STILL NO BANNANA
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 19:27:54 -0500
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Hello there all,
Well, I'm now completely stumped. I called tech support, and I realised that =
my
isapnp.conf was based on the isapnp.conf generated by my old computer. So I
generated another isapnp.conf stuck modem on com 1 and it was successful. By =
the
way, I'm running kernel 2.0.36 so lspci won't work anyway, its for 2.2x
apparently. Anyways, it says Board c USr modem recognized : irq 3
So I again told yast my modem lived on com1
I tried kppp it still just sits there on "modem ready" what on earth am I mea=
nt
to do now?
?I tried minicom but when it comes up, I went into alt z and chose send break,
it says sending it but says offline at the bottom.=20
And yes, I do want to use kppp, my mother in law is going to be using this
machine and we need something graphical.
I just don't know what to do next... any advice would be welcome. Has anyone
else experienced anything like this?
Cheers!
Dom
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From fmiller@lightlink.com Fri Apr 2 04:40:30 1999
From: fmiller@lightlink.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Attack of the Tuxissa Virus
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 23:40:30 -0500
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Attack of the Tuxissa Virus
This advisory is intended primarily for network administrators
responsible for
luser configuration and maintenance.
Attack of the Tuxissa Virus
March 29, 1999
What started out as a prank posting to
comp.os.linux.advocacy yesterday has turned into one of the
most significant viruses in computing history. The
creator of the virus, who goes by the moniker "Anonymous
Longhair", modified the well-known Melissa[1] virus to
download and install Linux on infected machines.
"It's a work of art," one Linux advocate told Humorix after
he looked through the Tuxissa virus source code. "This
virus goes well beyond the feeble troublemaking of
Melissa." The advocate enumerated some of the tasks the
virus performs in the background while the user is
blissfully playing Solitaire:
Once the virus is activated, it first works on propogating
itself. It has a built-in email harvesting module that
downloads all the pages referenced in the user's Internet
Explorer bookmarks and scans them for email addresses.
Using Outlook, the virus sends a copy of itself to every
email address it comes across.
After it has successfully reproduced, the virus begins the
tricky process of upgrading the system to Linux. First,
the virus modifies AUTOEXEC.BAT so that the virus will be
re-activated if the system crashes or is shut down while
the upgrade is in process. Second, the virus downloads a
stripped-down Slackware distribution, using a lengthy list
of mirror sites to prevent the virus from overloading any
one server.
Then the virus configures a UMSDOS filesystem to install
Linux on. Since this filesystem resides on a FAT
partition, there is no need to re-partition the hard drive,
one of the few actions that the Word macro language
doesn't allow.
Next, the virus uncompresses the downloaded files into the
new Linux filesystem. The virus then permanently deletes
all copies of the Windows Registry, virtually preventing
the user from booting into Windows without a re-install.
After modifying the boot sector, the virus terminates its
own life by rebooting the system. The computer boots into
the Slackware setup program, which automatically finishes
the installation of Linux. Finally, the dazed user is
presented with the Linux login prompt and the text,
"Welcome to Linux. You'll never want to use Windows again.
Type 'root' to begin..."
The whole process take about two hours, assuming the user
has a decent Internet connection. Since the virus runs
invisibly in the background, the user has no chance to stop
it until it's too late.
The email message that the virus is attached to has the
subject "Important Message About Windows Security". The
text of the body says, "I want to let you know about some
security problems I've uncovered in Windows 95/98/NT,
Office 95/97, and Outlook. It's critically important that
you protect your system against these attacks. Visit these
sites for more information..." The rest of the message
contains 42 links to sites about Linux and free software.
Slashdot is one of those links. "That could spell
trouble," one Slashdot expert told Humorix. "Slashdot
could fall victim to the new 'Macro Virus Effect' if this
virus continues to propogate at its present exponential
growth rate. Red Hat's portal site, another site present
on the virus' links list, seems to be quite sluggish right
now..."
Details on how the virus started are a bit sketchy. The
"Anonymous Longhair" who created it only posted it to
Usenet as an early April Fool's gag, a demonstration of how
easy it would be to mount a "Linux revolution". Some other
Usenet reader is responsible for actually spreading the
virus into the wild. One observer speculated, "I imagine
the virus was first sent to the addresses of several
well-known spammers. The virus probably latched on to the
spammer's email lists and began propagating at a fantastic
rate. With no boundary to its growth, this thing could
wind up infecting every single Net-connected Wintel box in
the world. Wouldn't that be a shame!"
Linus Torvalds, who just left for a two week vacation, was
unavailable for comment at press time. We have a strong
feeling that his vacation will be cut short very soon...
--=20
Windows 98 supports real multitasking - it can boot and crash
simultaneously -
Fred A. Miller, Systems Administrator
Cornell Univ. Press Services
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From graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 2 05:41:22 1999
From: graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fortify for Netscape questions.
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 05:41:22 +0000
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zentara writes:
> I found it odd that my compiled binaries
> were roughly 5 times as large as the precompiled
> ones.
Did you strip them after building them? If not, try stripping them and
see how much the size decreases.
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From fmiller@lightlink.com Fri Apr 2 09:51:39 1999
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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:51:39 -0500
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A good read.
Fred
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From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Apr 2 12:50:19 1999
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Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 07:50:19 -0500
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Yatsen Ng wrote:
>=20
> How exactly do I remove 'Lock' from /etc/ppp/options ? I'm going through a
> book called "Mastering Linux" but I didn't reach the part where they explain
> how to edit files yet. They do explain some basic things but they don't
> really go in depth.
Install the program Midnight Commander, and learn how to
use it by reading the docs. It is so easy.
Some will tell you to learn vi to edit,
but the internal editor of mc is too easy.
Remember to change the mc configuration to
"use internal edit" and "use internal view".
Otherwise you will get thrown into vi to edit
files.
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From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Apr 2 12:59:33 1999
From: zentara@mindspring.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Attack of the Tuxissa Virus
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 07:59:33 -0500
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"Fred A. Miller" wrote:
>=20
> Attack of the Tuxissa Virus
> creator of the virus, who goes by the moniker "Anonymous
> Longhair", modified the well-known Melissa[1] virus to
> download and install Linux on infected machines.
> "It's a work of art," one Linux advocate told Humorix after
Those poor windows users. I've heard that they can't even tell
it's happening to them. They hear all that "clicking hard-drive"
activity, but can't tell for sure if it's a normal window's operation
or not. I guess MS tech support is telling them it is normal
swapping out cause they are playing solitaire, and they should
just get more ram. ;-)
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 2 13:14:59 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
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Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 15:14:59 +0200
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zentara wrote:
>=20
> Yatsen Ng wrote:
> >
> > How exactly do I remove 'Lock' from /etc/ppp/options ? I'm going through a
> > book called "Mastering Linux" but I didn't reach the part where they expl=
ain
> > how to edit files yet. They do explain some basic things but they don't
> > really go in depth.
>=20
> Install the program Midnight Commander, and learn how to
> use it by reading the docs. It is so easy.
> Some will tell you to learn vi to edit,
> but the internal editor of mc is too easy.
It can also be directly invokes from the commandline with 'mcedit '.
Another nice editer, very customizable, is joe.
Henning
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From raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu Fri Apr 2 13:26:24 1999
From: raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] I'M STUMPED - MODEM RECOGNIZED BUT STILL NO BANNANA
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 08:26:24 -0500
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IRQ 3 is usually for COM2. If you have jumper settings on your modem,
try to set it to COM2 (IRQ 3, I/O 0x2F8). That way you won't need
isapnp, in fact remove or rename that file if the above works. Set up
your modem again with YaST. If all the above works, you should be able
to talk to it with minicom.
If you can't set it with jumpers. See what IRQ and I/O port "isapnp -c"
reports. COM1: IRQ 4, I/O 0x3F8; COM2:IRQ 3, I/O 0x2F8. Based on that
use YaST to set it up again and try minicom to talk to it (eg. ATZ,
etc.)
To use kppp, first go to /etc/ppp and rename the file 'options' and
replace with an empty file (eg. mv options options_old; touch options).
Then go to
~/.kde/share/config and rename 'kppprc' in case you have improper
settings.
Start kppp and try dialing manually.
Good luck.
--=20
Rafael Herrera
Laboratory for Computational Neuroscience
University of Pittsburgh
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From ideasco@csi.com Fri Apr 2 13:28:38 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Sound Card Settings
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 08:28:38 -0500
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I tried to compile a new kernel, including sound card support. I used the X
graphical interface. The log (and the manual in Section 13.4.14) advises
that the settings are made in a separate step. I'm having trouble figuring
out where this is done. Thanks for answering this trivial question.
Stanley C. Rogacki, P.E.
IDEAS Company
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From: mperry@basin.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 06:52:07 -0800
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On 2 Apr, hhv wrote:
>=20
> zentara wrote:
>>=20
>> Yatsen Ng wrote:
>> >
>> > How exactly do I remove 'Lock' from /etc/ppp/options ? I'm going through=
a
>> > book called "Mastering Linux" but I didn't reach the part where they exp=
lain
>> > how to edit files yet. They do explain some basic things but they don't
>> > really go in depth.
>>=20
>> Install the program Midnight Commander, and learn how to
>> use it by reading the docs. It is so easy.
>> Some will tell you to learn vi to edit,
>> but the internal editor of mc is too easy.
>=20
> It can also be directly invokes from the commandline with 'mcedit '.
> Another nice editer, very customizable, is joe.
>=20
> Henning
>=20
I would also recommend joe. It comes in three flavors and I really
like jstar which does a lot of wordstar stuff. You can customize it by
finding the joerc file in /usr/lib and copying it to your home
directory as .joerc. Same with jstar. There is a file there called
jstarrc and this can just get copied to your home directory. The config
files are quite commented so making changes is easily done.
--=20
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From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Fri Apr 2 16:54:38 1999
From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Mars_nwe.rpm
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:54:38 +0100
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Hi
I've asked the Pegasus Mail fro Windows folk about using Pegasus in=20
netware mode with mars_nwe.rpm. Haven't had a positive answer yet :-
(
I've looked at the mars_nwe docs and it looks as though it's fairly=20
straight forward. Just connect up the Pmail directory on the=20
appropriate drive.
If I can get it to work it might be a good idea for me to write a=20
mini-howto about this aspect of network configuration.
Thanks
Richard
Sheffield UK
0973 682181
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From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Fri Apr 2 16:54:38 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:54:38 +0100
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Hi
I've had a good long look at the Leafnode docs and I can't get=20
Leafnode to run. I've definitely got the right nntp server address.
What do I need to do to make/ compile it ? The docs don't quite give =
the full explanation.
Thanks
Richard
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From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 2 17:17:45 1999
From: grimmer@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 19:17:45 +0200
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Hi,
On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
> I've had a good long look at the Leafnode docs and I can't get=20
> Leafnode to run. I've definitely got the right nntp server address.
>=20
> What do I need to do to make/ compile it ? The docs don't quite give=20
> the full explanation.
Are you using the original source package? I found the INSTALL document
quite easy to follow...
You might want to have a look at the RPM on our ftp-Server, it contains a
README.SuSE under /usr/doc/packages/leafnode, which describes the
necessary steps.
For convenience, I've attached it to this mail. I hope, noone complains
about this...
Bye,
LenZ
--=20
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mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de =
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Installation notes for Package leafnode
---------------------------------------
In order to use leafnode on your system, you have to configure some things
correctly:
o Set the variable NNTPSERVER in /etc/rc.config to point to your local host:
NNTPSERVER=3D"localhost"
Be sure to run SuSEconfig afterwards, this will create the necessary
entry in the file /etc/nntpserver.
o edit /etc/leafnode/config to fit your needs. As a minimum,
you have to insert your preferred News Server in Line 3:
server =3D
This is the name or IP address of your provider's newsfeed. See the
manual page for leafnode(8) for more info about specific configuration
issues.
o to start leafnode when connecting with your newsreader, uncomment the
following line in /etc/inetd.conf:
nntp stream tcp nowait news /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/leafnode
This starts leafnode for all connections on the nntp port, subject to
/etc/hosts/allow and /etc/hosts.deny screening. Make sure, that this is
the only line beginning with "nntp"!
o After these changes, force inetd to reread the changed configuration file
To achieve this in SuSE Linux, issue the following command (as root):
rcinetd restart
Alternatively, you may use the following command:
killall -HUP inetd
o Now run fetch. The first run will take some time since fetch reads a
list of all newsgroups from your upstream server. With an 28.8 modem,
it can take as long as 60 minutes (depending on how many newsgroups your
provider offers and how fast your connection is). To see fetch working,
run it with the Option "-vvv".
o Read news using an NNTP client (with $NNTPSERVER or /etc/nntpserver
pointing to your own host). Select the groups you want to read in
the future. You will find them empty except for a default article.
Reading this article is necessary with some newsreaders to select
the groups for further fetching. After this, you should have empty
files in /var/spool/news/interesting.groups/ for every group you want
to read.
o Run fetch again. This run should pick up all the groups you want to read.
You can now read these messages or post new ones with your newsreader,
fetch will deliver your posted messages during the next run.
o If you want to fetch new news every time you go online, you could
run fetch from /etc/ppp/ip-up, for example.
o To clean up old articles, you should run texpire in regular intervals.
An example for /etc/crontab:
0 22 * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/texpire && /usr/sbin/texpire
This would start texpire every night at 10pm. If your machine does not
run 24 hours a day, make sure that you choose a time, when it will be
turned on.
Have a lot of fun,
Your SuSE-Team.
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From geoff@gnewson.freeserve.co.uk Fri Apr 2 17:36:22 1999
From: geoff@gnewson.freeserve.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] teTex
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 18:36:22 +0100
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My problem is that I cannot generate the format files for latex.
I have tried=20
texconfig init
but that only wrote output to logfiles.
Help please.
Geoff Newson
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From stevem12@mindspring.com Fri Apr 2 17:43:15 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:43:15 -0500
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Is SuSE going to put out it's own version of the 2.2 kernel like it has with
the 2.0?? If so, when??
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From adcarlso@visinet.ca Fri Apr 2 17:44:08 1999
From: adcarlso@visinet.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:44:08 -0500
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Probably another one of those April Fools stories...
On 01-Apr-99 Steven T. Hatton wrote:
>=20
> Did this really happen? I have been in the lab all day and haven't heard
> any news. I did a quick search on the net and didn't see anything else on
> it. I must admit I laughed my butt off reading the article. I'm a member
> of a satanic cult? Wow! I never knew. Man, if that is any reflection of
> the folks who use that other distribution, I'm more happy than ever to be
> here with SuSE.
>=20
> Someone please post some verifying information on this riot. The main
> reason I tend to believe this happened is that no one could make up a story
> as absurd as this.
>=20
> I must admit I am more inclined to put my efforts into making Linux a
> viable alternative to MS products than I am to go bash Gate's skull in.
> Hey he made what the world wanted. He won the capitalist game. MS has
> made incredible contributions to the computer industry. I don't like
> everything they have done, but sheez, the Unix nerds got over-run by Gates
> because he asked "what does the users want and need on the desktop?" Yea I
> talk trash about MS products. You should have heard me today when MS-SQL
> kept refusing to start. The fact of the matter is, the reason people go to
> MS products is because they increase productivity. If we OSS'rs want to
> win the OS game the thing to do is build a better product, not storm MS-HQ.
>=20
> alexm wrote:
>=20
>> http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.htm=
l>
>>
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From deem@wdm.com Fri Apr 2 18:51:04 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 09:51:04 -0900
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stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote:
>=20
> Is SuSE going to put out it's own version of the 2.2 kernel like it has with
> the 2.0?? If so, when??
It's always nice to get the updated stuff thrown in the SuSE packaged kernels.
My guess is that when 6.1 comes out, we'll see it.
-Dee
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From andyford@nothnbut.net Fri Apr 2 19:17:35 1999
From: andyford@nothnbut.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:17:35 -0600
Message-ID: <19990402131735.B10998@dave.ford.saint-louis.mo.us>
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On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 05:54:38PM +0100, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
>=20
> Hi
>=20
> I've had a good long look at the Leafnode docs and I can't get=20
> Leafnode to run. I've definitely got the right nntp server address.
>=20
> What do I need to do to make/ compile it ? The docs don't quite give=20
> the full explanation.
>=20
> Thanks
I've been working on the the last few days days with some limited success.
Where are you getting stuck? I'm using the stock SuSE rpm; I dunno what versi=
on
I'm running *blush*. Wait... Oh ok=20
dave:/etc/cron.daily # rpm -q leafnode
leafnode-1.7.1-6
The only way I can get leafnode to download articles is to put=20
group names in /var/spool/news/interesting.groups ...
I can't get my news reader, slrn, to tell leafnode I want certain=20
groups...
Yours,
Andy
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From eck@raytheon.com Fri Apr 2 19:22:52 1999
From: eck@raytheon.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:22:52 -0600
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W.D.McKinney wrote:
>=20
> It's always nice to get the updated stuff thrown in the SuSE packaged kerne=
ls.
> My guess is that when 6.1 comes out, we'll see it.
>=20
> -Dee
I just purchased SuSE 6.0 and plan on installing it over the week-end.
Currently using RedHat 5.2 with kernel 2.2.3. The reason for this
version
of the kernel is I am using xawtv and it has good video4linux built in
to the kernel. What exactly are SuSE kernel updates and will I be able
to take a newly installed SuSE 6.0 and update to kernel 2.2.3 (not
patched
in any manner) without breaking something? Under RedHat 5.2 I had to
ignore /etc/conf.modules and add a file called rc.modules under
/etc/rc.d. I guess I'll find out the diff between RH5.2 and SuSE6.0 :)
Regards,
Terry Eck
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From RBoussen@Worldonline.nl Fri Apr 2 19:43:47 1999
From: RBoussen@Worldonline.nl
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 21:43:47 +0200
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On 02-Apr-99 Terry Eck wrote:
>=20
> W.D.McKinney wrote:
> What exactly are SuSE kernel updates and will I be able
> to take a newly installed SuSE 6.0 and update to kernel 2.2.3 (not
> patched
> in any manner) without breaking something? Under RedHat 5.2 I had to
> ignore /etc/conf.modules and add a file called rc.modules under
> /etc/rc.d. I guess I'll find out the diff between RH5.2 and SuSE6.0 :)
>=20
I had installed SuSE 6.0 first and worked for a week with it.
After that I downloaded the 2.2.4 kernel (from www.nllgg.nl, the Dutch linux =
group) and compiled it.
Everything works fine only ALSA must be recompiled.
Greetings,
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From deem@wdm.com Fri Apr 2 19:45:40 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Another hardware question
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:45:40 -0900
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Looks like I'm heading into buying a new printer for my
home SuSE 6.0 box. I'd like a low end HP non-color
printer....any suggestions ?
Thanks
-Dee
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From bernhard.valenti@jk.uni-linz.ac.at Fri Apr 2 19:58:13 1999
From: bernhard.valenti@jk.uni-linz.ac.at
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 21:58:13 +0200
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hi,
after installing suse 6.0, just download the kernel 2.2.3(guess u already
have), and install it, you dont have to do anything else.
i'm running suse 6.0 with kernel 2.2.4.
bernhard valenti
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From: Terry Eck
To:
Sent: Freitag, 02. April 1999 21:22
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?
>
>W.D.McKinney wrote:
>>
>> It's always nice to get the updated stuff thrown in the SuSE packaged
kernels.
>> My guess is that when 6.1 comes out, we'll see it.
>>
>> -Dee
>I just purchased SuSE 6.0 and plan on installing it over the week-end.
>Currently using RedHat 5.2 with kernel 2.2.3. The reason for this
>version
>of the kernel is I am using xawtv and it has good video4linux built in
>to the kernel. What exactly are SuSE kernel updates and will I be able
>to take a newly installed SuSE 6.0 and update to kernel 2.2.3 (not
>patched
>in any manner) without breaking something? Under RedHat 5.2 I had to
>ignore /etc/conf.modules and add a file called rc.modules under
>/etc/rc.d. I guess I'll find out the diff between RH5.2 and SuSE6.0 :)
>
>Regards,
>Terry Eck
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From skoper@mediaone.net Fri Apr 2 20:01:49 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 15:01:49 -0500
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I posted a long message yesterday in theSuSE security mailing list,
which was pretty much off-topic (only tangentially related to security
issues with kernel 2.2.3). But I had been through several attempts to
compile and install the 2.2.3 kernel, without much success.
I have a cable modem and a home LAN, using an AMD 5x86 as my
router/gateway. It has two NICs. The one to the LAN is a Linksys
NE2000 clone. The one to the cable modem is a 3Com 3c509 that was
provided by the cable company, Mediaone. The problem I had with 2.2.3
was that it wouldn't recognize either of the NICs.
Hearing that there was a 2.2.5 kernel out, I downloaded it, and prepared
to install it. I provided a blow-by-blow description of my attempt to
compile and install a new kernel. Below is the description I posted:
Here's what I've done so far. I went into /usr/src
and did "rm -rf /usr/src/linux". Then I redid "ln -s
/usr/src/linux-2.2.5
/usr/src/linux". I typed "cd linux" and I was in /usr/src/linux. I
typed
"make menuconfig". I got a whole bunch of text, and then the menuconfig
creen appeared. Well, all of the settings were just like they were the
last time I did a make menuconfig.
After I verified that that was the case, I saved the config settings.
This dropped me down to a message that told me to check the top level
Makefile and then type "make dep". I took a look at the "top level
Makefile",
which I assume is the one in /usr/src/linux, but as always, it's just a
script,
and I don't know what I'm looking at. When this message appears, I sort
of expect to see a list of additional things to do, but there isn't.
Just
the script.
OK, I did "make dep" and now it's done. The last two lines are "make
[2]:
Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.5/arch/i386/lib'" and then "make
[1]:Leaving directory '/usr/scr/linux-2.2.5'"
Now I'm at the prompt, no further instructions. Following the list in a
message from W.D. McKinney, I'm going to type either make clean, or make
bzImage (or maybe just "make zImage", if I don't think the kernel will
be
too big). But why the "make clean"? To remove all of the previous
connections, in case some of them are "bad"? (like the time I
accidentally
compiled for a Pentium, when I only have an AMD 5x86).
I'll do it. [type 'make clean']. Here goes. Ah, it's rm'ing a bunch
of stuff. Last few
lines:
if [ -d modules ]; then \
rm -f core 'find modules/ -type f -print'; \
fi
rm -f submenu*
and now I'm at the prompt. Here goes make zImage. It'll take a while.
[It's a] Half hour later. Kernel too big [is the message I see]. The
last few lines are:
Boot sector is 512 bytes
Setup is 1272 bytes
System is 564 kB
System is too big. Try using bzImage or modules
make[1]: * * * [zImage] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.5/arch/i386/boot'
make: * * *[zImage] Error 2
And back to the prompt. OK, so let's do bzImage.
That was quick [it took about 3-5 minutes!]. No errors. Now, how about
make modules? OK, start that. I got a couple of warnings. "unused
variable ei_local"
for one. A bunch of messages "nothing to be done for modules", but I
think that's
just referring to specific functions that haven't been modularized.
Now, make modules_install. I got two. net and ipv4.
Now to copy the bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz, /sbin/lilo, and reboot. OK,
here goes nothing.
We're on. OK, it's got the devices [it recognized both NICs]. But
nothing's going out [ip forwarding isn't working]. There was that mod
probe error (char-something-4?), and ipfwadm isn't working (why should
it--this is a 2.2.x kernel--I need ipchains, right?).
Well, I feel better. I think I can fix this, and in the meantime, I can
reboot from the boot disk.
And I *will* look over the changes file, and see what needs to be
upgraded.
It *can* be done. But I may get 6.1 anyway....
That was what I posted last night. The only thing I forgot to add was
that when I type route or route -n each entry appears twice. Odd. But
mainly, IP forwarding isn't working. I have IP_FORWARDING =3D yes in
rc.config, so don't ask about that. When I first installed SuSE 6.0 I
couldn't get onto the internet from my LAN, but it was because I hadn't
prepared a FW-INOUT file and I had turned that variable on in rc.config.
So if anyone has any helpful suggestions as to why ip-forwarding isn't
working, let me know. Thanks.
Stan Koper
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From roed@hem.utfors.se Fri Apr 2 20:04:18 1999
From: roed@hem.utfors.se
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Star NL-10 printer
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 22:04:18 +0200
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I have an old Star NL-10 printer. Can I connect it to Linux ?
How ?
- * Linux - ett stabilare s=C3=A4tt att leva * -
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From venrooij@casema.net Fri Apr 2 20:33:49 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 22:33:49 +0200
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stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote:
>=20
> Is SuSE going to put out it's own version of the 2.2 kernel like it has with
> the 2.0?? If so, when??
>=20
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...it is already out there (kernel 2.2.3 for SuSE).
Check out the updates at the SuSE internet site.
Don't panic
Tim.
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From eck@raytheon.com Fri Apr 2 20:51:43 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 14:51:43 -0600
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Tim van Venrooij wrote:
>=20
> ...it is already out there (kernel 2.2.3 for SuSE).
> Check out the updates at the SuSE internet site.
>=20
> Don't panic
> Tim.
Is this site called ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/kernel?
If so then I think the only kernel with SuSE updates in
it is called linux-2.0.36.SuSE.tgz. Please correct me if=20
I'm wrong. I'm also interested in updating to kernel 2.2.3
but I have yet to see any kernel 2.2.X with SuSE finger prints.
Regards,
Terry
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From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Apr 2 21:39:33 1999
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound Card Settings
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 16:39:33 -0500
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"Stanley C. Rogacki" wrote:
>=20
> I tried to compile a new kernel, including sound card support. I used the X
> graphical interface. The log (and the manual in Section 13.4.14) advises
> that the settings are made in a separate step. I'm having trouble figuring
> out where this is done. Thanks for answering this trivial question.
>=20
Well, first you must setup your isapnp.conf file for
your soundcard. It is /etc/isapnp.conf. First do a=20
"pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf.
If you have a standard soundcard, post what model it
is and someone will send you a good isapnp.conf for it,
and the proper /etc/conf.modules settings.
The new kernels switch the irq's around for /dev/lp0
and /dev/lp1. So, it is wise to set your soundcard
up on irq5, and printer on irq7, which is /dev/lp0.
I have an awe32, if that is what you have email me, and
I'll send you the files.
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Another hardware question
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 16:43:29 -0500
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"W.D.McKinney" wrote:
>=20
> Looks like I'm heading into buying a new printer for my
> home SuSE 6.0 box. I'd like a low end HP non-color
> printer....any suggestions ?
>=20
If you can find a used Hp500 Deskjet , they setup
and work great. I got a refurbished one from
www.compgeeks.com for $50, it is like new. :-)
Refills are cheap too.
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From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Apr 2 21:47:45 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 16:47:45 -0500
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Stan Koper wrote:
> So if anyone has any helpful suggestions as to why ip-forwarding isn't
> working, let me know. Thanks.
>=20
The newer kernels use the ipchain command to do masquerading,
and I would guess forwarding.
There is a new how-to out for ip-masquerading with the
new kernels.
Hope that helps.
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From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Fri Apr 2 21:50:52 1999
From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Communication with parallel port
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Does anyone know of anything which would let me have a little
chat with my parallel port (/dev/lp1)?
With thamks,
Ted.
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From HKNIEF@taos.com Fri Apr 2 21:59:11 1999
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:59:11 -0800
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Actually, if you go to the update directory on the SuSE ftp site, there
is an lx_suse.rpm package that is SuSE's 2.2.3 Kernel package, which can
be setup under rpm as an upgrade.
- Herman
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Eck [SMTP:eck(a)raytheon.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 12:52 PM
> To: Tim van Venrooij
> Cc: SuSE
> Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?
>=20
>=20
> Tim van Venrooij wrote:
> >=20
> > ...it is already out there (kernel 2.2.3 for SuSE).
> > Check out the updates at the SuSE internet site.
> >=20
> > Don't panic
> > Tim.
> Is this site called ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/kernel?
> If so then I think the only kernel with SuSE updates in
> it is called linux-2.0.36.SuSE.tgz. Please correct me if=20
> I'm wrong. I'm also interested in updating to kernel 2.2.3
> but I have yet to see any kernel 2.2.X with SuSE finger prints.
>=20
> Regards,
> Terry
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 2 23:33:18 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 01:33:18 +0200
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Stan Koper wrote:
> So if anyone has any helpful suggestions as to why ip-forwarding isn't
> working, let me know. Thanks.
you need to 'echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' on startup.
Put in /sbin/init.d/boot.local. And yes, you need ipchains. It's
on the suse cdroms. So you can install it via Yast. Have you
checked if your system otherwise fulfills the requirements for
the 2.2.5 Kernel? The Script /usr/scr/linux/scripts/ver_linux
will tell you. An enhanced version is here:
http://hhv.de/projects/ve=
r-linux/usr/bin/ver-linux>
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 2 23:53:04 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: EXTRAVERSION patch?
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 01:53:04 +0200
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"Matthew D. Pitts" wrote:
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> Guys,
>=20
> Does someone have a patch for the patch-kernel script that will enable it
> to apply the EXTRAVERSION type patches for 2.1.13x/2.2.0-prex? I would like
> to bee able to run patch-kernel to apply them. I couldn't figure out how to
> do it myself.
This is very easily done with the command 'patch -p1 patchfilename'.
If the patch is compressed then use
zcat | patch -p1
or bzcat | patch -p1
This assumes you are in /usr/src/linux and the patch is there, too.
After this you should look for .rej files. If there are none
you can start compiling your kernel.
If you like, you can edit the top level Makefile, line 4, if it's a
non-official patch (not a Linus-Patch). If e.g. it's one of the
ac patches make line 4 look like
EXTRAVERSION =3D -ac2
I've written a tiny shell function, which automates the whole process.
If someone is interested, tll me. I'll send it
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From hmf@softhome.net Sat Apr 3 00:24:57 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] gnome crashes
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 19:24:57 -0500
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hey all
When I do "startx gnome", gnome and windowmaker come up, but apps just keep o=
n loading until x crashes. have any=20
idea why this might be, or what I can do to fix it?
Also, can anyone talk me through a file runner installation? I have the rpm =
, TCL8.0, and TK8.0, (but don't think I=20
put them in the right place...) Anyone?
Thanks
-tf
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From zentara@mindspring.com Sat Apr 3 00:47:46 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Communication with parallel port
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 19:47:46 -0500
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"(Ted Harding)" wrote:
>=20
> Does anyone know of anything which would let me have a little
> chat with my parallel port (/dev/lp1)?
>=20
cat textfile > /dev/lp1=20
if that don't work try
cat textfile > /dev/lp0
The 2.2.* kernels switch irqs around for the
printers, so if you recently upgraded, check
out irq's, bios lpt settings, and soundcard conflicts.
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From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Sat Apr 3 01:23:31 1999
From: k01164@ko.sdu.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 03:23:31 +0200
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Actually it is the 2.2.5 kernel sources in the rpm you
mentioned.
If you don't feel comfortable with a German menuconfig
just enter the first sub-menu and select English.
Exit menuconfig, but say yes to saving the configuration.
Next time you start make menuconfig it will be in English.
--=20
Regards Med venlig hilsen
Ole Kofoed Hansen
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On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Herman Knief wrote:
>=20
> Actually, if you go to the update directory on the SuSE ftp site, there
> is an lx_suse.rpm package that is SuSE's 2.2.3 Kernel package, which can
> be setup under rpm as an upgrade.
>=20
> - Herman
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Terry Eck [SMTP:eck(a)raytheon.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 12:52 PM
> > To: Tim van Venrooij
> > Cc: SuSE
> > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?
> >=20
> >=20
> > Tim van Venrooij wrote:
> > >=20
> > > ...it is already out there (kernel 2.2.3 for SuSE).
> > > Check out the updates at the SuSE internet site.
> > >=20
> > > Don't panic
> > > Tim.
> > Is this site called ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/kernel?
> > If so then I think the only kernel with SuSE updates in
> > it is called linux-2.0.36.SuSE.tgz. Please correct me if=20
> > I'm wrong. I'm also interested in updating to kernel 2.2.3
> > but I have yet to see any kernel 2.2.X with SuSE finger prints.
> >=20
> > Regards,
> > Terry
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From dizzy73@connix.com Sat Apr 3 01:33:38 1999
From: dizzy73@connix.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 20:33:38 -0500
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Andy Ford wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 05:54:38PM +0100, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I've had a good long look at the Leafnode docs and I can't get
> > Leafnode to run. I've definitely got the right nntp server address.
> >
> > What do I need to do to make/ compile it ? The docs don't quite give
> > the full explanation.
> >
> > Thanks
> I've been working on the the last few days days with some limited success.
> Where are you getting stuck? I'm using the stock SuSE rpm; I dunno what ver=
sion
> I'm running *blush*. Wait... Oh ok
> dave:/etc/cron.daily # rpm -q leafnode
> leafnode-1.7.1-6
> The only way I can get leafnode to download articles is to put
> group names in /var/spool/news/interesting.groups ...
> I can't get my news reader, slrn, to tell leafnode I want certain
> groups...
> Yours,
> Andy
If I can be of some help...
read this file and follow it exactly and your news will be pouring in!
http://h2o.hansol.co.kr/l=
g/issue09/newsserver.html>
also have a close look at the files Lenz posted today.
I followed these guides and it works perfectly
Im using the source version leafnode-1.9.2 dld from leafnodes site and compil=
ed
following the INSTALL file. The above page got me past similiar errors
hth
rob
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From mperry@basin.com Sat Apr 3 01:35:55 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] gnome crashes
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:35:55 -0800
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On 2 Apr, tf wrote:
>=20
> hey all
>=20
> When I do "startx gnome", gnome and windowmaker come up, but apps just keep=
on loading until x crashes. have any=20
> idea why this might be, or what I can do to fix it?
>=20
> Also, can anyone talk me through a file runner installation? I have the rp=
m , TCL8.0, and TK8.0, (but don't think I=20
> put them in the right place...) Anyone?
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> -tf
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Try starting gnome the first time without using the startx gnome thing.
Try using this in your .xinitrc file as the last line, "exec wmaker".=20
Have you run wmaker.inst to get the environment setup correctly? Go
the user's home and enter the command "wmaker.inst" in an xterm or
console. This will copy a bunch of files and it will also add the exec
wmaker command to your .xinitrc file as the last command. Now after
starting windowmaker, type panel & in an xterm and see if gnome starts.
You can have gnome manage the window manager but first get the load
sequence right. Once you get things working, you can enable the
gnome-session as the loader in your .xinitrc and this will work to load
windowmaker. When you are ready with windowmaker, just type startx and
you should be good. I have had some minor problems getting gnome to
start in its window manager role the first few times I try. What
version of gnome are you using? Are you using the one on the SuSE cd?
There are much later versions of gnome available made specifically for
suse. Check out www.gnome.org and look for the SuSE 6 link. =20
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From mperry@basin.com Sat Apr 3 01:51:45 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:51:45 -0800
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On 2 Apr, Andy Ford wrote:
>=20
> On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 05:54:38PM +0100, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi
>>=20
>> I've had a good long look at the Leafnode docs and I can't get=20
>> Leafnode to run. I've definitely got the right nntp server address.
>>=20
>> What do I need to do to make/ compile it ? The docs don't quite give=20
>> the full explanation.
>>=20
>> Thanks
> I've been working on the the last few days days with some limited success.
> Where are you getting stuck? I'm using the stock SuSE rpm; I dunno what ver=
sion
> I'm running *blush*. Wait... Oh ok=20
> dave:/etc/cron.daily # rpm -q leafnode
> leafnode-1.7.1-6
> The only way I can get leafnode to download articles is to put=20
> group names in /var/spool/news/interesting.groups ...
> I can't get my news reader, slrn, to tell leafnode I want certain=20
> groups...
> Yours,
> Andy
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I am running leafnode here from sources with no real issues. Be sure
that you have at least read the one article in each group that leafnode
places there. Everything works okay when you run fetch -vvv which
means verbose, verbose, verbose? How do you enable fetch? Perhaps in
ip-up? I would subscribe to the groups and enter each group in slrn
and read the one article in there after you subscribe. slrn had a
rather rough time for me also until I manually read each article that
leafnode places there as a placeholder of sorts.
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From jamesw@wantjava.com Sat Apr 3 02:02:45 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.1 ftp?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 19:02:45 -0700
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When is SuSE 6.1 going to be up on ftp.suse.com ?
Thanks.
James Ward
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From skoper@mediaone.net Sat Apr 3 04:09:54 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 23:09:54 -0500
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The boot file in /sbin/init.d already has this command in it. I see from
the ipfwadm script that it's supposed to test for the presence of ipfwadm,
and if it isn't there, then it tries to run ipchains. I'm only a little
mystified as to why, when I boot kernel 2.2.5, networking doesn't work. But
apparently linux is trying to run ipfwadm and it isn't working.
Stan Koper
-----Original Message-----
From: hhv
To: SLE
Date: Friday, April 02, 1999 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade
>
>Stan Koper wrote:
>> So if anyone has any helpful suggestions as to why ip-forwarding isn't
>> working, let me know. Thanks.
>
>you need to 'echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' on startup.
>Put in /sbin/init.d/boot.local. And yes, you need ipchains. It's
>on the suse cdroms. So you can install it via Yast. Have you
>checked if your system otherwise fulfills the requirements for
>the 2.2.5 Kernel? The Script /usr/scr/linux/scripts/ver_linux
>will tell you. An enhanced version is here:
>http://hhv.de/projects/v=
er-linux/usr/bin/ver-linux>
>
>Henning
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From stevem12@mindspring.com Sat Apr 3 04:41:38 1999
From: stevem12@mindspring.com
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 23:41:38 -0500
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YOu are correct. I found the kernel 2.2.5 rpm. I have been looking in the
suse_update/kernel directory for it. Silly me......:-)
Steve
On 02-Apr-99 Herman Knief wrote:
>=20
> Actually, if you go to the update directory on the SuSE ftp site, there
> is an lx_suse.rpm package that is SuSE's 2.2.3 Kernel package, which can
> be setup under rpm as an upgrade.
>=20
> - Herman
>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Terry Eck [SMTP:eck(a)raytheon.com]
>> Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 12:52 PM
>> To: Tim van Venrooij
>> Cc: SuSE
>> Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?
>>=20
>>=20
>> Tim van Venrooij wrote:
>> >=20
>> > ...it is already out there (kernel 2.2.3 for SuSE).
>> > Check out the updates at the SuSE internet site.
>> >=20
>> > Don't panic
>> > Tim.
>> Is this site called ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/kernel?
>> If so then I think the only kernel with SuSE updates in
>> it is called linux-2.0.36.SuSE.tgz. Please correct me if=20
>> I'm wrong. I'm also interested in updating to kernel 2.2.3
>> but I have yet to see any kernel 2.2.X with SuSE finger prints.
>>=20
>> Regards,
>> Terry
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From tomchang@cisco.com Sat Apr 3 04:59:37 1999
From: tomchang@cisco.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] TK 8.00.013
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 23:59:37 -0500
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Hi!=20
I have suse 5.3 and I tried to compile with Tk800.013=20
It keep giving me errors. Does anyone expiernece the same problem? Or
anyone has a solution for this?? Thank you very much!!
tomchang(a)cisco.com
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From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Sat Apr 3 05:00:19 1999
From: k01164@ko.sdu.dk
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IDC Says Linux likely to lead OS growth
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 07:00:19 +0200
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote:
>=20
> Some good news!
>=20
> Fred
> _______________
>=20
> http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-03/lw-03-idc.html?0=
4-01>
IDC may have seen the light, but they are still in the dark.
The article mentioned clustering technology as one
of the things still missing. Why, then, do I remember
some news about IBM outperforming a CRAY supercomputer
with a cluster of 17 Linux machines?
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From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Apr 3 05:04:30 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] IDC Says Linux likely to lead OS growth
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 00:04:30 -0500
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Some good news!
Fred
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From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sat Apr 3 05:06:59 1999
From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Communication with parallel port
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 06:06:59 +0100
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On 03-Apr-99 zentara wrote:
>=20
> "(Ted Harding)" wrote:
>>=20
>> Does anyone know of anything which would let me have a little
>> chat with my parallel port (/dev/lp1)?
>>=20
>=20
> cat textfile > /dev/lp1=20
Thanks for the tip, but I know how to do that. I want a little *chat*,
i.e. send it some bytes (to the printer) and read what the printer sends
back, and continue like that for a while.
(It's one of these printers that has a "printer job language" that
enables it to report sundry status info by the parallel port; it comes
with a DOS utility for the purpose, but I'd prefer to avoid using that).
With thanks,
Ted.
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 3 05:11:15 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] XKB in S.u.S.E.
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 00:11:15 -0500
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I've had a little trouble with xkb in S.u.S.E. Changing keymaps and
symbols has been fine, and setting it up to use the xfree86(us_microsoft)
keymap was fine -- except that regular users are unable to use the Windows
keys. It seems like a permission thing, xkb is running fine even under
normal users, so I can't think what it might be. root is perfectly able to
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From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr 3 05:15:11 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] HP DeskJet 695C and SuSE 6.0 ?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 20:15:11 -0900
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My family bought me a HP 695C for my birthday and I have yet=20
to get it to print a page of anything. Anyone using this beast already
under SuSE care to toss me what steps you took to tame it ?
Thanks
-Dee
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 3 05:28:22 1999
From: northsky@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] HP DeskJet 695C and SuSE 6.0 ?
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 00:28:22 -0500
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On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, W.D.McKinney wrote:
> My family bought me a HP 695C for my birthday and I have yet=20
> to get it to print a page of anything. Anyone using this beast already
> under SuSE care to toss me what steps you took to tame it ?
I don't know about 6, but I know that using my HP DJ500C with apsfilter
via YaST under 5.2 didn't work. Well, it did -- except that it printed
*everything* in PostScript. I despise apsfilter anyway.
On that note, does anyone know if there's a problem with 5.2's lpr? It
seems not to like it when a printcap entry isn't followed by a line of
text. I don't *think* I've encountered this before. Is it a bug?
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From francis.j.bruening@bigfoot.com Sat Apr 3 05:33:51 1999
From: francis.j.bruening@bigfoot.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Help with SuSE 6.0 & DCHP support of @Home cable service
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 21:33:51 -0800
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Greetings,
I'm fairly new to Linux, having installed 6.0 a few days ago. I'm trying to
get DCHP
working on my @home cable modem.
I believe I have eth0 configured correctly, but DCHPD times out and doesn't
find a valid IP address
Because @Home DCHP service requires a "hostname". I tried the "-h" flag, but
dhcpd doesn't
See that as a valid flag?
What do I need to do to get this going?
Thanks in advance.
Francis J. Bruening
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sat Apr 3 05:58:37 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 07:58:37 +0200
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Stan Koper wrote:
>=20
> The boot file in /sbin/init.d already has this command in it. I see from
> the ipfwadm script that it's supposed to test for the presence of ipfwadm,
> and if it isn't there, then it tries to run ipchains. I'm only a little
> mystified as to why, when I boot kernel 2.2.5, networking doesn't work. But
> apparently linux is trying to run ipfwadm and it isn't working.
That's why you need ipchains. BTW, ipchains comes with a wrapper script,
so the old ipfwadmin commands should work again, if you have removed
ipfwadmin and installed ipchains.
BTW, please don't CC. Mails are arriving doubly, if you do.
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From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sat Apr 3 06:58:13 1999
From: dwj@linuxtoday.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Getting a clue on ISDN
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 22:58:13 -0800
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My ISDN was installed today and I have it working on Win95 at 115KB.
Now I want to make it work on Linux but I don't have a clue where to
begin.
I am in the US and my provider is USWest.net. I have a 3ComImpactIQ
external ISDN modem supplied by US West.
My platform is SuSE 5.2 and I am using the 2.0.33 kernel.
Most of the documentation seems to be for the German ISDN service,
which I understand is different in essential aspects from the US.
Any information that will enable me to move ahead will be much appreciated.
Thanks,
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From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr 3 07:39:49 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] No printer under SuSE 6.0!
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 22:39:49 -0900
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Well no matter what I try, I can't anything out of my SuSE 6.0
install to print. BEoS 4.0 prints just fine though to HP 695C.
So ...it's not hardware but software.
Bummer.
-Dee
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From rimez@surfree.com Sat Apr 3 07:43:42 1999
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Has anyone been able to setup vgetty in SuSE 6.0? I've actually been able to
get it to run w/o error upon start-up but I'm having two problems:
1. I just can't seem to get vm to record a darn message.=20
2 I can't use my modem while vgetty is running. Am I correct in assuming that
this can't be avoided? =20
Anyone want to help me? I would be most appreciative.
thanks alot ;-)
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From brauki@cityweb.de Sat Apr 3 09:12:33 1999
From: brauki@cityweb.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 11:12:33 +0200
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hhv wrote:
>=20
> Stan Koper wrote:
> > So if anyone has any helpful suggestions as to why ip-forwarding isn't
> > working, let me know. Thanks.
>=20
> you need to 'echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' on startup.
> Put in /sbin/init.d/boot.local. And yes, you need ipchains. It's
> on the suse cdroms. So you can install it via Yast. Have you
yes. but where? I=C5=BDve spend some time to find it, but did not succeed.
do you know the name of the package?
Juergen
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From brauki@cityweb.de Sat Apr 3 09:39:27 1999
From: brauki@cityweb.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] No printer under SuSE 6.0!
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 11:39:27 +0200
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"W.D.McKinney" wrote:
>=20
> Well no matter what I try, I can't anything out of my SuSE 6.0
> install to print. BEoS 4.0 prints just fine though to HP 695C.
> So ...it's not hardware but software.
>=20
> Bummer.
>=20
> -Dee
Dee, I havn=C5=BDt realy followed this thread, but I remember you tried to
cat a file to /dev/lp0 /dev/lp1 or /dev/lp2.
How is your BIOS setup for the paralel port? I had some *nice* and long
experience with "auto" config and laplink (DOS) last weekend. I *hate*
auto features.
Which kernel do you use? printing as a module? With 2.2.x there are a
few entries in conf.modules to make the damm thing work. (if modules)
Took me some time to:
# post-install paride insmod frpw
# pre-remove paride rmmod frpw
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
options parport_pc io=3D0x378
I hope this is all, just in case this fits, look at the archive of
march. I found it there. Make sure you use the proper address. (can add
the irq as well, works in my case without)
Juergen
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From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Sat Apr 3 09:46:59 1999
From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 dialup problem
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 10:46:59 +0100
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Hi
After finding a problem which I thought was to do with something=20
else I have deleted the system and started again. I couldn't find a=20
file to edit to sort out the problem so I thought the best answer was=20
to start again.
After getting round to editing the samba files I have found that the=20
same problem has returned yet again. When I boot the linux box I=20
find that it tries to dial in to my ISP right away. I can't find any=20
docs that explain what this may be about. Not even a clue ? It then=20
connects and then disconnects and carries on in that way for about=20
ten minutes.
To get to this point I have added lines to etc/service.... swat=20
901/tcp and /etc/inetd.conf.... swat stream tcp nowait 400 =20
root /usr/sbin/swat swat.
As I say, I can't find any explanation for this. Could someone=20
please send some e-mail if they can figure it out ?
As a seperate issue I have keyed in "wvdial. tcl" and wvdial. tcl &" =
as well as "wvdial tcl" into a terminal window. The GUI doesn't=20
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for ten minutes. Why doesn't the GUI come up ?
Thanks
Richard
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From lunaslide@pacbell.net Sat Apr 3 10:23:42 1999
From: lunaslide@pacbell.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] TK 8.00.013
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 02:23:42 -0800
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Che-Ming Chang wrote:
>=20
> Hi!
> I have suse 5.3 and I tried to compile with Tk800.013
> It keep giving me errors. Does anyone expiernece the same problem? Or
> anyone has a solution for this?? Thank you very much!!
>=20
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I just installed tcl 8.0.3 and tk 8.0.3 tonight. What I did was=20
cp tcl8.0.3.tar.gz /usr/local/
cp tk8.0.3.tar.gz /usr/local/
tar -xzvf tcl8.0.3.tar.gz
tar -xzvf tk8.0.3.tar.gz
cd tcl8.0.3/unix
./configure
make install
cd ../..
cd tk8.0.3/unix
make install
they both work, but I'm not sure that all tk and tcl programs will work
with them becuase some links may be out of wack. But I'm using tcl/tk
for AOL's Instant Messenger client for UNIX and for the comanche
configuration tool for apache without trouble.
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From yatsen-ng@cistron.nl Sat Apr 3 11:34:26 1999
From: yatsen-ng@cistron.nl
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Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture?
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:34:26 +0200
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I got rid of 'Locked' by invoking 'mcedit /etc/ppp/options' . I also did 'ch=
mod a+s
/usr/sbin/pppd'. It's still not working properly. When it dials up I see the =
text
'enabling pppd...' Once pppd is enabled that text is supposed to change into =
'pppd
enabled' or something , I suppose. That never happens. Anyway, when I try to
retrieve mail with the mailclient the whole program seems to lock up and I ge=
t the
dreaded "unexpected death" - I can't even close the windows anymore (this is =
scary
because it's like mswindows!). When I try to log out I get "preparing sessio=
n" and
it dials up once again. I do manage to log out eventually. In notice that oth=
ers
don't have any problems I have while others do. Is there anything else I need=
to
take care of in the configuration?
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From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Apache. Error running CGI-script.
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 08:55:14 -0500
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John,
I guess I don't understand what you want. I am the world's greatest expert on
perl and cgi because I have two weeks of part time experience so you can trust
everything I say ;-).
I clicked on the link you sent for test.pl and I just happen to have that
script which runs fine on my box. I then copied the script to the same
location but with the name test.cgi, and it still runs fine. Here's the
output:
Date: Sat Apr 3 08:50:32 1999
0.000000E+00NV:
SERVER_SOFTWARE =3D Apache/1.3.4 (Unix) SuSE/6.0 PHP/3.0.6 mod_perl/1.17
mod_ssl/2.1.7 SSLeay/0.9.0b
GATEWAY_INTERFACE =3D CGI/1.1
DOCUMENT_ROOT =3D /usr/local/httpd/htdocs
UNIQUE_ID =3D NwYcqAoKCgYAAAFWEXA
REMOTE_ADDR =3D 127.0.0.1
SERVER_PROTOCOL =3D HTTP/1.0
SERVER_SIGNATURE =3D
Apache/1.3.4 Server at nariana.arbeitsgruppe.sprintmail.com Port 80
REQUEST_METHOD =3D GET
QUERY_STRING =3D
HTTP_USER_AGENT =3D Mozilla/4.51 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.3 i686)
PATH =3D /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/bsd:/usr/local/bin
HTTP_ACCEPT =3D image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/pn=
g,
*/*
HTTP_CONNECTION =3D Keep-Alive
REMOTE_PORT =3D 1169
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE =3D en
SCRIPT_NAME =3D /cgi-bin/test.cgi
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING =3D gzip
SCRIPT_FILENAME =3D /usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin/test.cgi
HTTP_PRAGMA =3D no-cache
SERVER_NAME =3D nariana.arbeitsgruppe.sprintmail.com
REQUEST_URI =3D /cgi-bin/test.cgi
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET =3D iso-8859-1,*,utf-8
SERVER_PORT =3D 80
HTTP_HOST =3D localhost
SERVER_ADMIN =3D root(a)localhost
#################################
Is this the script you are working with?
#!/usr/bin/perl
# your httpd.conf should have something like this:
# Alias /perl/ /real/path/to/perl-scripts/
#
# SetHandler perl-script
# PerlHandler Apache::Registry
# PerlSendHeader On
# Options +ExecCGI
#
print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
print "Date: ", scalar localtime, "
\n";
print "0.000000E+00NV:
\n", map { "$_ =3D $ENV{$_}
\n" } keys 0.00000=
0E+00NV;
###############################################################
I know "works fine here may not be the best answer, but sometimes it helps.
Did you set the permissions on the test.cgi to something like 755?
Steve
John Ericson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Im trying to run a small CGI script wish is written in perl. It work when I
> write this in netscape: "http://localhost/cgi-bin/test.pl=
A>", but if I rename
> it to test.cgi and write: "http://localhost/cgi-bin/test.=
cgi>" in netscape,
> I get an "500 Internal Server Error" message, and my httpd.error_log says:
>
> httpd: [Sat Apr 3 02:30:20 1999] [error] (13)Permission denied: exec of
> /usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin/test.cgi failed
> httpd: [Sat Apr 3 02:30:20 1999] [error] [client 190.64.0.1] Premature end
> of script headers: /usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin/test.cgi
>
> If anyone has any ideas on how to solve this, please mail me.
>
> / John
> UIN: 7325429
> E-MAIL: john.ericson(a)home.se
> URL: http:/hem2.passagen.se/highlndr
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 3 14:00:10 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Getting a clue on ISDN
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 09:00:10 -0500
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On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Dwight Johnson wrote:
> I am in the US and my provider is USWest.net. I have a 3ComImpactIQ
> external ISDN modem supplied by US West.
>=20
> My platform is SuSE 5.2 and I am using the 2.0.33 kernel.
>=20
> Most of the documentation seems to be for the German ISDN service,
> which I understand is different in essential aspects from the US.
>=20
> Any information that will enable me to move ahead will be much appreciated.
Tried the ISDN-HOWTO?
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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sat Apr 3 14:27:16 1999
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] BJC-4000: no color
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 09:27:16 -0500
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I am having a problem printing with my ancient Cannon BJC-4000. At
first I couldn't print at all and found it necessary to rm -r
/var/spool/lpd, rm /etc/printcap and reinstall the lpd and lpdold (or
whatever you call that UCB print stuff) using yast. I then whent under
the configure hardware|printers and selected bjc-600. This got the
printer to print. As I remember there used to be four apsfilters in my
printcap. One of them had the word 'color' in it. I am not currently
able to print color. Here's what my current printcap looks like:
ascii|lp1|bjc600-letter-ascii-mono-360|bjc600 letter ascii mono 360:\
:lp=3D/dev/lp0:\
:sd=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-ascii-mono-360:\
:lf=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-ascii-mono-360/log:\
:af=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-ascii-mono-360/acct:\
:if=3D/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/bjc600-letter-ascii-mono-360:\
:la@:mx#0:\
:sh:sf:
#
lp|lp2|bjc600-letter-auto-mono-360|bjc600 letter auto mono 360:\
:lp=3D/dev/lp0:\
:sd=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-auto-mono-360:\
:lf=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-auto-mono-360/log:\
:af=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-auto-mono-360/acct:\
:if=3D/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/bjc600-letter-auto-mono-360:\
:la@:mx#0:\
:sh:sf:
#
raw|lp3|bjc600-letter-raw|bjc600 letter raw:\
:lp=3D/dev/lp0:\
:sd=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-raw:\
:lf=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-raw/log:\
:af=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-raw/acct:\
:if=3D/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/bjc600-letter-raw:\
:la@:mx#0:\
:sh:sf:
#
### END apsfilter: ### bjc600 letter mono 360 ###
And my /var/spool/lpd:
bash-2.02# pwd
/var/spool/lpd
bash-2.02# ls -RFal
total 5
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 1024 Apr 2 19:01 ./
drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 1024 Apr 2 19:01 ../
drwxr-xr-x 2 lp lp 1024 Apr 2 19:01
bjc600-letter-ascii-mono-360/
drwxr-xr-x 2 lp lp 1024 Apr 3 09:15
bjc600-letter-auto-mono-360/
drwxr-xr-x 2 lp lp 1024 Apr 2 19:01
bjc600-letter-raw/
bjc600-letter-ascii-mono-360:
total 2
drwxr-xr-x 2 lp lp 1024 Apr 2 19:01 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 1024 Apr 2 19:01 ../
-rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 acct
-rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 lock
-rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 log
-rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 status
bjc600-letter-auto-mono-360:
total 5
drwxr-xr-x 2 lp lp 1024 Apr 3 09:15 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 1024 Apr 2 19:01 ../
-rw------- 1 lp root 18 Apr 3 09:14
.seq.nariana.arbeitsgruppe.sprintmail.com
-rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 acct
-rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 3 09:15 lock
-rw-r----- 1 lp lp 85 Apr 3 09:14 log
-rw-r----- 1 lp lp 38 Apr 3 09:15 status
bjc600-letter-raw:
total 2
drwxr-xr-x 2 lp lp 1024 Apr 2 19:01 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 1024 Apr 2 19:01 ../
-rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 acct
-rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 lock
-rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 log
-rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 status
bash-2.02#
Am I doing something wrong? Is there a way to fix this?
TIA,
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From richwill@innotts.co.uk Sat Apr 3 14:41:20 1999
From: richwill@innotts.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading KDE
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:41:20 +0100
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>
> It is easu, download all the files at SusE, they will be in RPM formats,
> than get out of KDE (very important step), than use YaSt, go to where you
> delete and install packages, you have the option to chose a directory, and
> point to the directory of the rpm's, select and install
I've just tried this, but when I start KDE I get the following error:
libstdc++.so.2.9: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory.
kbgndwn: error in loading shared library.
Any ideas for a newbie would be much appreciated :)
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From richwill@innotts.co.uk Sat Apr 3 15:43:22 1999
From: richwill@innotts.co.uk
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading SuSE > 6.0
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 16:43:22 +0100
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Hi all,
I am a Linux newbie, having been given a CD with SuSE 5.2 on it. What I
want to know is: is it worth me upgrading to SuSE 6.0? If so, can it be
done with patches rather than downloading the whole kaboodle?
Many thanks
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From hmf@softhome.net Sat Apr 3 15:44:38 1999
From: hmf@softhome.net
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] kernal upgrade rpm
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 10:44:38 -0500
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hey all
I got lx_suse.rpm, installed it. Do I now have the new kernal, or must I con=
figure somthing else? When I boot with=20
lilo, I think I see the old kernal number.
thanks
-tf
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From abrahams@valinet.com Sat Apr 3 16:18:46 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Building X packages with xmkmf fails
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I've tried to build two different X packages, apparently developed in a
Sun environment, for use under SuSE Linux 5.3. The standard procedure
for doing this is to type `xmkmf', which uses the included Imakefile to
build a Makefile, and then typing `make' or `make all' to compile the
program from its sources. In each case `make' died on the following
complaint:
pwa(a)pleurotus:/aux2/local/packages/spider > make all
Makefile:381: *** missing separator. Stop.
The text at line 381 of the Makefile (for *both* packages) is:
ProjectUnsharedLibReferences(XSS,Xss,$(XSSLIBSRC),$(TOP)/exports/lib)
XXF86MISCLIBSRC =3D $(LIBSRC)/Xxf86misc
These lines are followed by several similar lines.
Since this seems to be a systematic problem, it probably has a
systematic solution. Is it just due to some difference between Gnu
make as used under Linux and the Sun version of make, I wonder?
Has anyone else encountered this? Any suggestions for what to do about
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 3 17:21:30 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] kernal upgrade rpm
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 12:21:30 -0500
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, tf wrote:
> hey all
>=20
> I got lx_suse.rpm, installed it. Do I now have the new kernal, or must I c=
onfigure somthing else? When I boot with=20
> lilo, I think I see the old kernal number.
Yeah. You have to compile it and install it. I don't recommend getting the
SuSE sources, though, because you can't patch them using standard kernel
patches from ftp sites -- and I don't think SuSE provides kernel patches.
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From graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk Sat Apr 3 17:35:58 1999
From: graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] kernal upgrade rpm
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:35:58 +0000
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tf writes:
> hey all
>=20
> I got lx_suse.rpm, installed it. Do I now have the new kernal, or
> must I configure somthing else? When I boot with lilo, I think I
> see the old kernal number.
No. You just have the source. You must now build the new kernel.
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From mperry@basin.com Sat Apr 3 17:52:27 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] kernal upgrade rpm
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 09:52:27 -0800
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On 3 Apr, Ewan Dunbar wrote:
>=20
> On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, tf wrote:
>> hey all
>>=20
>> I got lx_suse.rpm, installed it. Do I now have the new kernal, or must I =
configure somthing else? When I boot with=20
>> lilo, I think I see the old kernal number.
>=20
> Yeah. You have to compile it and install it. I don't recommend getting the
> SuSE sources, though, because you can't patch them using standard kernel
> patches from ftp sites -- and I don't think SuSE provides kernel patches.
>=20
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You can get the kernel sources from www.kernel.org or www.linuxhq.com.
I dont think I have ever used an rpm file for a kernel.
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From hlarons@ComCAT.COM Sat Apr 3 18:01:32 1999
From: hlarons@ComCAT.COM
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Mysterious /var/log Message
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:01:32 -0500
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On Apr 02, 1999, hhv wrote:
>=20
> Howard Arons wrote:
> >=20
> > Apr 1 10:58:51 localhost modprobe: can't locate module ppp0
> > Apr 1 10:58:51 localhost kernel: registered device ppp0
> >=20
> > Why on earth is modprobe trying to load this?
>=20
> Because your /etc/conf.modules doesn't contain the line
> alias ppp0 off
> Presumably there is a line 'alias ppp0 ppp". Change it accordingly.
Well, 'alias ppp0 off' solved the problem. Thanks. Funny thing is, I=20
/knew/ this...I just didn't remember it when it counted :-(
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From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 3 20:34:31 1999
From: richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 dialup problem
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 21:34:31 +0100
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Hi
Wild stab in the dark, I am a newbie, do you reckon the problem is to do
with diald? Are you using YaST to setup your modem and ISP? I had this
same problem and I solved it by connecting to my ISP without setting up my
modem and ISP with YaST.
Cheers
Rich
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Date: 03 April 1999 11:34
Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 dialup problem
Hi
After finding a problem which I thought was to do with something
else I have deleted the system and started again. I couldn't find a
file to edit to sort out the problem so I thought the best answer was
to start again.
After getting round to editing the samba files I have found that the
same problem has returned yet again. When I boot the linux box I
find that it tries to dial in to my ISP right away. I can't find any
docs that explain what this may be about. Not even a clue ? It then
connects and then disconnects and carries on in that way for about
ten minutes.
To get to this point I have added lines to etc/service.... swat
901/tcp and /etc/inetd.conf.... swat stream tcp nowait 400
root /usr/sbin/swat swat.
As I say, I can't find any explanation for this. Could someone
please send some e-mail if they can figure it out ?
As a seperate issue I have keyed in "wvdial. tcl" and wvdial. tcl &"
as well as "wvdial tcl" into a terminal window. The GUI doesn't
appear. Instead of this wvdial starts and then dials and disconnects
for ten minutes. Why doesn't the GUI come up ?
Thanks
Richard
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sat Apr 3 20:58:49 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 22:58:49 +0200
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Juergen Braukmann wrote:
>=20
> > you need to 'echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' on startup.
> > Put in /sbin/init.d/boot.local. And yes, you need ipchains. It's
> > on the suse cdroms. So you can install it via Yast. Have you
>=20
> yes. but where? I=C5=BDve spend some time to find it, but did not succeed.
> do you know the name of the package?
Start YaST, choose/install packages, change/create configuration,
then hit F4, choose 'All Packages', choose 'All Packages (excluding
sources)', then mark 'ipchains' and hit F10, ...
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From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sat Apr 3 21:08:40 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Getting a clue on ISDN
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:08:40 -0800
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Dwight Johnson wrote:
> > I am in the US and my provider is USWest.net. I have a 3ComImpactIQ
> > external ISDN modem supplied by US West.
> >=20
> > My platform is SuSE 5.2 and I am using the 2.0.33 kernel.
> >=20
> > Most of the documentation seems to be for the German ISDN service,
> > which I understand is different in essential aspects from the US.
> >=20
> > Any information that will enable me to move ahead will be much appreciate=
d.
>=20
> Tried the ISDN-HOWTO?
Gladly, but I wasn't able to see one in English. What is the URL for
the document?
Thanks,
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From dan_tudor@home.ro Sat Apr 3 21:15:12 1999
From: dan_tudor@home.ro
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] HP DeskJet 695C and SuSE 6.0 ?
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 00:15:12 +0300
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Hate to admit but I haven't been able to make my printer work too - it's a HP
Deskjet 690C. Indeed soem tips concerning the steps that should be taken would
be great.
Dan.
On Sat, 03 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote:
>On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, W.D.McKinney wrote:=20
>> My family bought me a HP 695C for my birthday and I have yet =20
>> to get it to print a page of anything. Anyone using this beast already=20
>> under SuSE care to toss me what steps you took to tame it ?=20
>=20
>I don't know about 6, but I know that using my HP DJ500C with apsfilter=20
>via YaST under 5.2 didn't work. Well, it did -- except that it printed=20
>*everything* in PostScript. I despise apsfilter anyway.=20
>On that note, does anyone know if there's a problem with 5.2's lpr? It=20
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From reynald_w@yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 21:18:36 1999
From: reynald_w@yahoo.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Logitech Cordless Wheel Mouse
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:18:36 -0800
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I had to get me one of these mice. It works as a
pointer in Linux with no problems. Good 'ol Logitech.
But the wheel would be a nice feature to have work
while I'm in Linux. Anyone know of any support for
the Wheel portion? The SuSE database says it doesn't
have support but you can get the button part of the
wheel to work. But the date was kinda old and perhaps
there is support somewhere. Does anyone know where I
could get such information?
Also, a friend of mine is having troubles with his
modem. Its a Jaton 56K internal. The Communicator I
believe is it. It isn't a WinModem at least. But I
tried to set it up for him and had no luck. Minicom
doesn't wanna work right. None of the AT commands
return anything. And PPP returns an i/o error.=20
Anyone have any information on these modems? Thanks
in advance.
Ren West
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 3 21:40:37 1999
From: northsky@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Getting a clue on ISDN
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 16:40:37 -0500
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Dwight Johnson wrote:
>=20
> On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote:
>=20
> > On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Dwight Johnson wrote:
> > > Most of the documentation seems to be for the German ISDN service,
> > > which I understand is different in essential aspects from the US.
> > >=20
> > > Any information that will enable me to move ahead will be much apprecia=
ted.
> >=20
> > Tried the ISDN-HOWTO?
>=20
> Gladly, but I wasn't able to see one in English. What is the URL for
> the document?
Certainly. Try the Linux Documentation Project at
<http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/>>.
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From john.ericson@home.se Sat Apr 3 21:44:56 1999
From: john.ericson@home.se
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Apache. Error running CGI-script.
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:44:56 +0000
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Hi,
Im trying to run a small CGI script wish is written in perl. It work when I
write this in netscape: "http://localhost/cgi-bin/test.pl>", but if I rename
it to test.cgi and write: "http://localhost/cgi-bin/test.cg=
i>" in netscape,
I get an "500 Internal Server Error" message, and my httpd.error_log says:=20
httpd: [Sat Apr 3 02:30:20 1999] [error] (13)Permission denied: exec of
/usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin/test.cgi failed=20
httpd: [Sat Apr 3 02:30:20 1999] [error] [client 190.64.0.1] Premature end
of script headers: /usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin/test.cgi
If anyone has any ideas on how to solve this, please mail me.=20
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From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 3 21:48:29 1999
From: jlkreps@navix.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading SuSE > 6.0
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:48:29 -0600
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IMHO, 5.2 is an excellent distro. It's only drawback is that it is
based on the old libc5 libraries whereas 6.0 is based on the new libc6
libraries.
If I were you I'd wait until version 6.1 came out because it will also
include the new 2.2.x kernel in that distro...
JLK
Richard Williamson wrote:
>=20
> Hi all,
> I am a Linux newbie, having been given a CD with SuSE 5.2 on it. What I
> want to know is: is it worth me upgrading to SuSE 6.0? If so, can it be
> done with patches rather than downloading the whole kaboodle?
>=20
> Many thanks
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From e.ten.have@hccnet.nl Sat Apr 3 22:11:51 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Error recompiling patched kernel
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 00:11:51 +0200
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Hello there,
I`ve been a linux user since SuSE 6.0 was out. And verry happy exloring its
possibillities.
A few days ago I downloaded kernel 2.2.3 and got it working as good as
2.0.36
Tonight I tried my luck on patching it up to 2.2.4 All went wel until the
make bzlilo bit, this ended saying:
gcc -D_KERNEL_ -I/usr/src/linux/include 0DCPU=3D586 -c -o acct.o
acct.c
acct.c:In function `sys_acct`:
acct.c:197 : too few arguments to function `filp_close`
acct.c:203 : too few arguments to function `filp_close`
make[2] ***[acct.o] error 1
make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/kernel`
make[1] *** [first_rule] error 2
make[1] : Leaving directory`/usr/src/linux.kernel`
make : ***[_dir_kernel] error 2
Is there anyone who can help me get rid of this message,since I am quite new
too linux and compiling anything I havent got a clue where too look for
answers regarding this error.
I`m running linux on a pentium 75 on hdb (wich is a quantum bigfoot of 2 gb)
thanks in advance for any help comming my way
Eelco
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From zentara@mindspring.com Sat Apr 3 22:34:01 1999
From: zentara@mindspring.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Apache. Error running CGI-script.
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:34:01 -0500
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John Ericson wrote:
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> Hi,
>=20
> Im trying to run a small CGI script wish is written in perl. It work when I
> write this in netscape: "http://localhost/cgi-bin/test.pl=
A>", but if I rename
> it to test.cgi and write: "http://localhost/cgi-bin/test.=
cgi>" in netscape,
> I get an "500 Internal Server Error" message, and my httpd.error_log says:
> If anyone has any ideas on how to solve this, please mail me.
I'm not sure the exact lines to use, but you must
specify the .cgi type to be allowed in your
http.conf. I think it is called an "AddHandler"
I have a line " AddHandler cgi-script .cgi"
But I don't know if you can run a perl script
as a .cgi file, it might conflict with
the Addhandler for perl scripts.
Try running a bash shell script with a .cgi ending.
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From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sat Apr 3 22:42:48 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Getting a clue on ISDN
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 14:42:48 -0800
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote:
> > > Tried the ISDN-HOWTO?
> >=20
> > Gladly, but I wasn't able to see one in English. What is the URL for
> > the document?
>=20
> Certainly. Try the Linux Documentation Project at
> <http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/>>.
That was the first place I tried. I didn't see it there in the
alphabetical list of HOWTOs.
Is this a document you are personally familiar with?
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From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr 3 22:46:20 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] HP DeskJet 695C and SuSE 6.0 ?
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:46:20 -0900
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Dan Tudor wrote:
>=20
> Hate to admit but I haven't been able to make my printer work too - it's a =
HP
> Deskjet 690C. Indeed soem tips concerning the steps that should be taken wo=
uld
> be great.
Well my new HP DeskJet 695C works in other OS's fine. Sure would like to see
it under SuSE also.
Anyone working at SuSE have a similiar one working maybe ?
Thanks
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From paulsen@imailbox.com Sat Apr 3 23:13:04 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Access to tape drive from rescue boot (SuSE 6.0)
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Hello,
I created a rescue boot disk from /cdrom/disks/scsi02. This boots just fine.
But, when I try to access my tape drive I get an error:
> mt -f /dev/st0 status
mt: /dev/st0: Operation not supported by device.
I have no trouble getting to the tape from a "normal" boot of SuSE. I have the
6.0 version.
Any hints on what I need to do to get access to my tape from the rescue boot?
Thanks!
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From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr 3 23:18:48 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Access to tape drive from rescue boot (SuSE 6.0)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 14:18:48 -0900
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Robert C Paulsen Jr wrote:
>=20
> Hello,
>=20
> I created a rescue boot disk from /cdrom/disks/scsi02. This boots just fine.
>=20
> But, when I try to access my tape drive I get an error:
>=20
> > mt -f /dev/st0 status
> mt: /dev/st0: Operation not supported by device.
>=20
> I have no trouble getting to the tape from a "normal" boot of SuSE. I have =
the
> 6.0 version.
>=20
> Any hints on what I need to do to get access to my tape from the rescue boo=
t?
>=20
I had trouble with my:
<4> Vendor: HP Model: T4000s Rev: 1.10
<4> Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
This due to running a AHA2940UW.
I had to make monolithic kernel under 2.2.5 to get it to work with Bru 15.0.
-Dee
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From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Error recompiling patched kernel
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 01:24:57 +0200
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From tdburden@bright.net Sun Apr 4 00:18:25 1999
From: tdburden@bright.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] HP DeskJet 695C and SuSE 6.0 ?
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 19:18:25 -0500
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"W.D.McKinney" wrote:
>=20
> Dan Tudor wrote:
> >
> > Hate to admit but I haven't been able to make my printer work too - it's =
a HP
> > Deskjet 690C. Indeed soem tips concerning the steps that should be taken =
would
> > be great.
>=20
> Well my new HP DeskJet 695C works in other OS's fine. Sure would like to see
> it under SuSE also.
>=20
> Anyone working at SuSE have a similiar one working maybe ?
>=20
> Thanks
> -Dee
I have a 697C on suse 6.0 running w/o problems using apsfilter
and the cdj550 driver. I just ran the install & it worked.
Prior to suse I ran the same combo on redhat without problems.
Barring any drastic differences between the 695C and 697C I
don't think it's a suse or apsfilter problem.
What happens when you attempt to print? Can you cat a text file
directly to the printer port? Is your lpd running? Are you sure
you have the correct port (I've been burned by this one)?
Just throwing out ideas for further troubleshooting.
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 4 02:15:54 1999
From: northsky@ix.netcom.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Getting a clue on ISDN
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 21:15:54 -0500
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Dwight Johnson wrote:
>=20
> On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote:
>=20
> > > > Tried the ISDN-HOWTO?
> > >=20
> > > Gladly, but I wasn't able to see one in English. What is the URL for
> > > the document?
> >=20
> > Certainly. Try the Linux Documentation Project at
> > <http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/>>.
>=20
> That was the first place I tried. I didn't see it there in the
> alphabetical list of HOWTOs.
>=20
> Is this a document you are personally familiar with?
No. I apologize for speaking too soon. Here, lessee... umm... here's a
link you might find helpful: http://www=
.muc.de/~hm/linux/linux-isdn.html>
Try the Linux Networking Overview HOWTO, too.
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From yatsen-ng@cistron.nl Sun Apr 4 02:21:16 1999
From: yatsen-ng@cistron.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 04:21:16 +0200
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This is incredibly funny! I'm still laughing while I'm writing this. Damn, ho=
w do
they come up with parts like "Linux nerd wears gasmask hastily fashioned from=
a
garbage bag, work goggles, a pocket protector and using the insides of a nut=
ty
bar as a filter"? This is too much!
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From bc550@scn.org Sun Apr 4 03:04:05 1999
From: bc550@scn.org
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Failed 2.2.5 Upgrade
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 19:04:05 -0800
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I am trying to upgrade to the 2.5.5 kernel that I downloaded from kernel.org.=
=20
All goes well through the 'make menuconfig' and 'make dep clean zImage' stage=
s.
There is one message that passes by fleetingly about a 'nbat' variable that is
not found, but it doesn't stop things. I have also successfully modified lilo
so that I can keep the 2.0.36 kernel working.
When I try to boot with the new kernel, it gets through finding the ide hard
drives, and then it stalls with a kernel panic. In an previous effort, I
had modularized the IDE drivers which stopped booting when it tried to find t=
he
root filesystem. Once I fixed that problem, it died just a bit later. When I
fixed that probelm I also realized that I had added the ATA option, which I
don't think I need for my drives. =20
These are more or less the last few lines before the system halts:
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) read only
Freeing unused kernel memory ...
Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init=3D option to kernel
I have recently added an Adaptec ATA2920C that I have yet to get recognized
under 2.0.36. I have a Yamaha CD-RW drive attached to it.
Any suggestions on what is wrong here? =20
Thanks.
Harry
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 4 03:33:12 1999
From: northsky@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Xmodmap stuff in 5.2 (a problem solved)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 22:33:12 -0500
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I've just figured out after a total of... oh, probably several whole
minutes (though spread over a few days) why I couldn't get my winkeys to
work right in SuSE 5.2 -- a line in the .xinitrc file was looking for a
.Xmodmap file, and first for a /var/X11R6/lib/Xmodmap file. For some
reason, the users had .Xmodmap files in their home directories. (Though,
when I removed them, the problem didn't go away until I moved
/var/X11R6/lib/Xmodmap, which is odd, since root was having no trouble
with those keys.).
My question is, what do you think, in the SuSE 5.2 distribution, would
have done that? And not to root? Is this different in later versions?
Cause it seems sorta like compiling xiafs into the kernel (which, by the
way, SuSE (5.2, anyway), does...). Whatever did it shouldn't -- they
should make users go a bit out of their way to get to this deprecated
program. I can understand why it would be in the .xinitrc, but I think
something having to do with SuSE, possibly the user creation util, put it
there. Much worse than compiling xiafs into the kernel -- doing that is
actually more along the lines of putting the xmodmap stuff into the
.xinitrc -- it's there if you want to use it. I doubt it was just some
rude program that did this. I think it was just some program that SuSE
uses that they'd forgot to change. Any ideas?
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From sabinelr@email.msn.com Sun Apr 4 06:14:45 1999
From: sabinelr@email.msn.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Same thing happens with kde
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 22:14:45 -0800
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From: Larry Sabine
To:
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Same thing happens with kde
>
> I have tried to run kde with two different installs. Each time all the
kde
> applications (kwm example supplied here) says this same thing:
>
> kwm: error in loading shared libraries
> /opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol:
> resizeEvent__14QMultiLineEditP12QResizeEvent
>
> It's probably something simple, but I am sure I don't know what.
> Thanks
> Larry
> Certified Seat Filler
I tried the advice -- downloaded all the qt lib rpm's, and put them in. Now
X comes up, then dies. The command line echoes indicate that the
applications before kwm start successfully, but there is nothing indicating
what happens with kwm. If I try to start kwm on its own, I get a
segmentation fault. I got other ideas, like reading the manual, etc, but
maybe this isn't covered there. Who knows?
Larry
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From dward@basair.com.au Sun Apr 4 07:40:09 1999
From: dward@basair.com.au
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Help!! A few small problems
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 17:40:09 +1000
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Hello,
I am having some troubles getting SuSE Linux 6 to do what I need. I am setti=
ng up a Linux server for our network, running Samba to provide file sharing t=
o the Win95/98 clients. All that seems to be working OK. I am then trying t=
o get the server to act as an e-mail/www server via our permanent dial-up con=
nection to our ISP.
Problems are in a few areas:
1. The network runs fine until connected to the net. Everything then slows =
down (dramatically). It would appear that anything happening on our network =
is causing activity on the modem (talking to a DNS?). The system doesn't han=
g - just operates VERY slowly. Disconnect the modem connection and all is OK=
. Any suggestions?
2. How do I get DIALD to establish a permanent connection and then maintain =
it? Or doesn't it do that?
3. Sendmail keeps giving an internal configuration error saying that the MX =
record points to itself (inbound mail only). Outbound seems to get out OK. =
My server is called fred and our domain is basair.com.au How should I confi=
gure this?
4. How do I get squid to use use a proxy server at my ISP. My ISP does not =
permit any direct Internet connections - only via their proxy server.
5. I am trying to get a RealAudio server running as well. It seems to insta=
ll OK, but when I execute it it says "Cannot open PNA port 7070". I know tha=
t it listens on this port to operate, but how do I set this up?
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
Darrin Ward.
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From paspartu@uni.net Sun Apr 4 10:27:01 1999
From: paspartu@uni.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] [Off Topic] What is the
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 12:27:01 +0200
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correct way to pronounce Apache?
At the french way (something like apash) or english way (something like apaci=
).
How do they (the Apache indians) call themselves?
Ciao,
Maurizio.
P.S.
Don't feel obliged to answer :-)
M.
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From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Apr 4 10:44:55 1999
From: brauki@cityweb.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help!! A few small problems
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 12:44:55 +0200
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Darrin Ward wrote:
>=20
> Hello,
>=20
> I am having some troubles getting SuSE Linux 6 to do what I need. I am set=
ting up a Linux server for our network, running Samba to provide file sharing=
to the Win95/98 clients. All that seems to be working OK. I am then trying=
to get the server to act as an e-mail/www server via our permanent dial-up c=
onnection to our ISP.
>=20
> Problems are in a few areas:
>=20
> 1. The network runs fine until connected to the net. Everything then slow=
s down (dramatically). It would appear that anything happening on our networ=
k is causing activity on the modem (talking to a DNS?). The system doesn't h=
ang - just operates VERY slowly. Disconnect the modem connection and all is =
OK. Any suggestions?
>=20
What about your smb.conf? (global section) add a
interfaces =3D your.eth0.ip.adress/bis_in_netmask
this stops samba from dialing out. (leaves talk on ports 13x within the
local net and stops senseless requests to the outside world)
make sure, all local adresses are somehow resolved. (stops name server
requests)
> 2. How do I get DIALD to establish a permanent connection and then maintai=
n it? Or doesn't it do that?
>=20
Don=C5=BDt know. Id suggest to use the old ppp-up script and add an echo
request to the pppd-options to force the connection up
#....
/usr/sbin/pppd lock \
connect \
'/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/ppp.chat' \
$device $pppflags $localip:$remoteip \
lcp-echo-interval 20 \
lcp-echo-failure 5
>=20
> Darrin Ward.
cheers
Juergen
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From nick@namodn.com Sun Apr 4 11:14:05 1999
From: nick@namodn.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Cable Modem Question
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 11:14:05 +0000
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Hello, Ive had my cable modem hooked up succesfully for over a month now,
im using the @home services.
my problem is that it doesnt seem to be as fast as its "cracked up" to be,
particularly when telneting to my remote server and editing files remotely
and stuff, i notice lagg quite often, short pauses when i type and then it
catches up, unsteady data transfer etc. the modem is still very fast,
like for downloading files i can tell the speed difference, but when i
used my phone line & a modem before, when i was telneting & remotely
administrating my server i would never experience the short laggs every
now and then, its quite anoying, one would think a cable modem would be
very fast & smooth, mine seems to be fast, yet jerky.
Im wondering if this is common, or maybe i have something set up wrong
(since i get no tech support for using Linux with the modem, ill run it by
you guys).
One thing to note is i am not using SuSE's DHCP thing. i thought i would
have to, but when i set up the routing tables everything worked fine,
without dhcp. in fact the one time i enable dhcp i couldnt get it working.=20
Am i supposed to be using dhcp? or is this setup normal?
when i ping remote servers, sometimes there will be a large delay, like
from an avg of 30 mioli seconds to one thats 160 mili seconds,, and a 30%
packet loss. maybe thats normal, i dont know, like i said, ive only had
this cable modem a month.
Anyone have any experience with this problem? and if you need to know
something about my setup ill post it upon request.
Thanks for your time.
- Nick
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From zentara@mindspring.com Sun Apr 4 11:25:07 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] [Off Topic] What is the
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 07:25:07 -0400
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Maurizio Firmani wrote:
>=20
> correct way to pronounce Apache?
> How do they (the Apache indians) call themselves?
The first and second "a" are slightly different,
the "apa" sounds like " a pat" without the "t".
the "che" sounds like "cheese" without the "se"
try "apatchee"
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From e.maryniak@pobox.com Sun Apr 4 11:36:28 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Best driver for HP DeskJet 600 in YaST?
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:36:28 +0200
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When configuring the printer with YaST for a HP DeskJet, only these models
are listed:
djet500 deskjet cdeskjet cdjmono cdjcolor cdj500 cdj550 djet500c dnj650c hp=
dj
Which one is best suited for the 600?
The 600 has a best modus of 600x600dpi, a normal modus of 600x300dpi and _can_
print in color 300x300dpi.
Thanx for any advise, kind regards, Eric Maryniak
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From e.maryniak@pobox.com Sun Apr 4 12:18:19 1999
From: e.maryniak@pobox.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] 3com Fast EtherLink XL 10/100Mb TX Ethernet NIC
(3C905B-TX) "Cyclone Series" supported in SuSE 6.0 or 6.1
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 14:18:19 +0200
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Is the new 3com card
3com Fast EtherLink XL 10/100Mb TX Ethernet NIC (3C905B-TX) ("Cyclone Series=
")
upported in SuSE 6.0 (or will be in 6.1)?
According to Donald Becker's page it should be in the standard driver (called
"3Com 3c59x/3c90x" in YaST), but I wonder, because it's very new and SuSE's
support database does not mention the Cyclone specifically, just the Boomerang
and Vortex series.
I'm preparing my PC at work for an installation to 6.1 and want to get my
hardware inventory right :-)
Thanx for any info and kind regards, Eric Maryniak
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From nick@namodn.com Sun Apr 4 13:08:32 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:08:32 +0000
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Greg Thomas wrote:
> > HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them al=
l.
> > They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), lacking in =
core
> > functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), or can't even get =
it
> > to work at all (Most others).
>=20
>=20
> Netscape is definitely crap but I don't understand what's so unusable
> about Pine? I love it. =20
I use pine everyday myself. one thing i hate about in, though, is
that iit has no build in filtering. i use procmail to filter email and
that doesnt notify me of new mail, when its in something other than my
inbox. Another thing about pine is that it doesnt support displaying
attached images, like graphical email clients do. One fof the biggest
drawbacks of pine, is the fact that i cant send as anyone but my primary
email account. Im an admin on a server, i have nick(a)myserver.com and
admin(a)myserver.com .. they both go to nick(a)myserver.com (admin is an
alias). when i get mail to my admin account, i like to be able to send as
admin, when getting mail to my nick account, i like to send as nick, as
far as i know i cant do this with pine.=20
The best email client ive ever used, unfortunately, has been
Outlook Express for MS Windows. If anyone knows of an email client similar
to this for Linux, Xwindows, please let me know. And i believe if someone
developed an email client with Outlooks full funcionality, it would be
greatly appreciated in the linux community, even if it was commercial, i'd
pay if it was like outlook.
XFMail is an ok email client. (i can send as several dfifferent email
aliases).. but its kinda cumbersome as well.
- Nick : nick(a)namodn.com : www.namodn.com
=20
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From venrooij@casema.net Sun Apr 4 13:08:47 1999
From: venrooij@casema.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading KDE
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 15:08:47 +0200
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Richard Williamson wrote:
>=20
> >
> > It is easu, download all the files at SusE, they will be in RPM formats,
> > than get out of KDE (very important step), than use YaSt, go to where you
> > delete and install packages, you have the option to chose a directory, and
> > point to the directory of the rpm's, select and install
>=20
> I've just tried this, but when I start KDE I get the following error:
>=20
> libstdc++.so.2.9: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory.
> kbgndwn: error in loading shared library.
=20
libstdc++.so.2.9 is the c++ shared library that can be found in the
"gppshare" package. Just install it and you will be fine.
Good luck,
Tim.
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From nick@namodn.com Sun Apr 4 13:11:54 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:11:54 +0000
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A GUI for pine would be great! xpine :) .. added to it, built in email
filtering, multiple email account send/recieve capability. etc. i think
that would be a very reqarding project, and greatly needed.
- Nick : nick(a)namodn.com : www.namodn.com
On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Rachel Greenham wrote:
>=20
> In message <199904041622.JAA17908(a)mperry.basin.=
com>
> Michael Perry wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > On 4 Apr, Rachel Greenham wrote:
> > >=20
> > > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. Th=
is
> > > is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliab=
le
> > > piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to
> > > use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a
> > > perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever
> > > stopped using it.
>=20
> You know what else I like about being back on my Acorn mailer? Decent
> reformatting of quotes! :-)
>=20
> > Agreed that Netscape is bad. Not agreed that there are no reliable or we=
ll
> > done email clients. I have used pine for a number of years and perhaps
> > have gotten used to its interface. I really like the virtual folders
> > feature and the level of customizability.
>=20
> I'm well aware of PINE's feature set. In terms of functionality it's pretty
> definitive, but its user interface *is* apalling and although I *could* get
> used to it, I don't want to. :-) One thing I've thought of doing is to rip
> into the PINE source code and abstract the functionality into an API (if it
> isn't already, I haven't looked yet, but I guess not or people would be usi=
ng
> it) and use that to write a decent GUI-based email client. Major project
> though, especially as I haven't done *any* X development yet. :-} All my
> C/C++ GUI development experience is on Acorns. My current skillset would
> point me more to doing a Java/DB style solution though it would have more
> system dependencies (Java, Postgres or similar...)
>=20
> --=20
> Rachel
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From paulsen@imailbox.com Sun Apr 4 13:19:12 1999
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I tried to restore from an Arkeia backup tape using readarkeia and got a bunch
of errors. Here is my attempt to restore the directory /etc on my SuSE 6.0 Li=
nux
system ("home")...
# readarkeia xvf /dev/st0 home:/etc
Extracting data from tape 'Backup 1' created by root
Read_block: Got end of segment '0'
Read_block: Got end of segment '1'
Read_block: Got end of segment '2'
Read_block: Got end of segment '3'
Read_block: Got end of segment '4'
Read_block: Got end of segment '5'
Read_block: Got end of segment '6'
Read_block: Got end of segment '7'
Read_block: Got end of segment '8'
Read_block: Got end of segment '9'
Read_block: Got end of segment '10'
Read_block: Got end of segment '11'
ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown
Read_block: Got end of segment '12'
Read_block: Got end of segment '13'
Read_block: Got end of segment '14'
ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown
ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown
ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown
ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown
ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown
ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown
ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown
ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown
ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown
ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown
ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown
ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown
ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown
Read_block: Got end of segment '15'
Read_block: Got end of segment '16'
Read_block: Got end of segment '17'
Read_block: Got end of segment '18'
.. etc...
The directory (/etc) was not restored. I know it's OK on the tape since I was
able to restore it from the GUI. (During GUI install I saw that it was in
segment 14 which does NOT appear to have any errors in the above output.
____________________________________________________________________
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From paulsen@imailbox.com Sun Apr 4 13:20:05 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] readarkeia.c truncated on backup tape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 08:20:05 -0500
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I extracted the readarkeia.c source from the backup tape as described in
section 12.2 of the User's manual but got a truncated copy. The readarkeia.c =
in
the directory /usr/knox/arkeia is 55229 bytes in size, but the file read from
tape is only 53957 bytes. Examining the file shows that it has defnately been
truncated.
I am using the version of Arkeia that came wth SuSE Linux 6.0. My tape drive =
is
an Aiwa DT-20001. This is a Travan NS20 with hardware compression.
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From lag@c2i.net Sun Apr 4 13:21:58 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading SuSE > 6.0
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:21:58 +0000
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On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:48:29 -0600, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
So what's with the "new libc6 libs" ?
Do we need them?
Lars A Gronningsater
--IMHO, 5.2 is an excellent distro. It's only drawback is that it is
--based on the old libc5 libraries whereas 6.0 is based on the new libc6
--libraries.
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From kepe@home.com Sun Apr 4 13:45:33 1999
From: kepe@home.com
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Failed 2.2.5 Upgrade
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 07:45:33 -0600
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On 04-Apr-99 Harry Reinert wrote:
>=20
> I am trying to upgrade to the 2.5.5 kernel that I downloaded from kernel.or=
g.
> All goes well through the 'make menuconfig' and 'make dep clean zImage'
> stages.
> There is one message that passes by fleetingly about a 'nbat' variable that
> is not found, but it doesn't stop things.
Harry,
If my thinking is correct, doing a "make dep clean zImage" will just fly
through the entire process, until it reaches the end. It will not be
concerned with any errors.
Using "make dep && make clean && make zImage" will work a little better.
In essence, it says make dep, and if no errors, make clean, and so on.
I would also include "make modules && make modules_install".=20
HTH,
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From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 4 13:47:04 1999
From: jlkreps@navix.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading SuSE > 6.0
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 08:47:04 -0500
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If you've got SuSE 6.0 you've got'm!
JLK
Lars A Gronningsater wrote:
>=20
> On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:48:29 -0600, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
>=20
> So what's with the "new libc6 libs" ?
> Do we need them?
>=20
> Lars A Gronningsater
>=20
> --IMHO, 5.2 is an excellent distro. It's only drawback is that it is
> --based on the old libc5 libraries whereas 6.0 is based on the new libc6
> --libraries.
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From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 4 13:56:09 1999
From: jlkreps@navix.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 08:56:09 -0500
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Yatsen Ng wrote:
>=20
> This is incredibly funny! I'm still laughing while I'm writing this. Damn, =
how do
> they come up with parts like "Linux nerd wears gasmask hastily fashioned fr=
om a
> garbage bag, work goggles, a pocket protector and using the insides of a n=
utty
> bar as a filter"? This is too much!
>=20
Ten years ago, while I was usng Advanced Revelation as my tool of choice
in my consulting business, AREV was developing a reputation for crashing
because the new CEO was pushing "upgrades" out the door to meet
deadlines that would give him bonuses, not because the version was
ready.
Developers began writing a chain story (we were on Compu$erve at the
time). It started when one developer began writing a parody of a
particular bug, in a melodramatic way, and concluded with "... and then
...". Another developer would extend the story and end with another
"cliff hanger". After a month it was getting hallarious. One developer
was incredibly gifted, to the point of awesome. I sent him an email
asking how he learned to write so well and where did he come up his
brilliant story lines. He said that he used to be an ad writer for a
New York Ad Agency, but the hyprocisy turned him off and he jumped to
programming.
Moral: Programmers arn't always "just" gifted nerds. We have a range
of talents and skills.
--=20
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From: accmzckw@magix.com.sg
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] network card problems
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:58:59 +0800
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Hello,
I am just installing SUSE 6.0. However, I run into some troubles into
getting my 3Com network card working.=20
I have got Asus P5A motherboard with audio on board. CPU is AMD K6-350.
I have also got a AGP Asus TNT 3400 graphics card and a ATM network card
for my ADSL connection. I have just bought a 3com 509B network card for
my home intranet.=20
When I reboot after installing SUSE 6.0, there is an error message:
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resources temporary unavailable
The kernel message also indicates that the 3com network card has been
set to IRQ 15 which is the IRQ for the second IDE controller. I guess
this is the problem. I want to set IRQ of my network card to be 11. Can
someone tell me how to do this.
Thank you for the help!
Regards,
Anthony
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From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 4 15:06:25 1999
From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:06:25 +0100
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It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This is
4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable piece
of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook
out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a perfectly good email
client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever stopped using it.
The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on Linux,
Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself.
HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them all.
They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), lacking in core
functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), or can't even get it
to work at all (Most others).
Yours, in utter fury:
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Rachel
P.S. The sort of fury that probably starts new OSS projects, but I haven't
got the time right now, there's things I'm trying to DO dammit!
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From bparker@dc.net Sun Apr 4 15:45:08 1999
From: bparker@dc.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] 3com Fast EtherLink XL 10/100Mb TX Ethernet NIC
(3C905B-TX) "Cyclone Series" supported in SuSE 6.0 or 6.1
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 11:45:08 -0400
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Hello Eric:
I suppose the newer SuSE versions will ship the newest 3c59x drivers but if
not there may be problems.
I am using a 3C905B "Cyclone" network adapter card in this installation but
I did have problems with it. The card is considered "difficult" by some and
I probably will not buy anymore of them.
I am using a rather old SuSE version, version 5.2. It shipped with the
3c59x.c, version 0.49J, 2/7/98 driver. Loaded as a module, this driver
would recognize the Cyclone card but the card could not see the LAN--It
would not ping anything except itself and the loopback.
The solution was to compile and install a newer driver, in this case, the
3c59x.c, version 0.99H, 11/17/98. It seems the B version of the 905 series
is quite different from previous versions and the older driver could not
initialize the card's network interface. After installation of the new
driver, bingo!, the card connected to the network immediately.
You are on the right track when looking at Donald Becker's webpage. You can
get the newest driver from there. Make sure you download the driver source
using FTP and not a browser.
Regards,
Bill Parker,
The HURD is a free GNU operating system.
'Hurd' stands for `Hird of Unix-Replacing Daemons'.
And, then, `Hird' stands for `Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth'.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On
> Behalf Of Eric Maryniak
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 1999 8:18 AM
> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Subject: [SuSE Linux] 3com Fast EtherLink XL 10/100Mb TX Ethernet NIC
> (3C905B-TX) "Cyclone Series" supported in SuSE 6.0 or 6.1
>
>
>
> Is the new 3com card
>
> 3com Fast EtherLink XL 10/100Mb TX Ethernet NIC (3C905B-TX)
> ("Cyclone Series")
>
> supported in SuSE 6.0 (or will be in 6.1)?
> According to Donald Becker's page it should be in the standard
> driver (called
> "3Com 3c59x/3c90x" in YaST), but I wonder, because it's very new
> and SuSE's
> support database does not mention the Cyclone specifically, just
> the Boomerang
> and Vortex series.
> I'm preparing my PC at work for an installation to 6.1 and want to get my
> hardware inventory right :-)
> Thanx for any info and kind regards, Eric Maryniak
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From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 4 16:22:21 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 09:22:21 -0700
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On 4 Apr, Rachel Greenham wrote:
>=20
> It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This is
> 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable piece
> of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook
> out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a perfectly good email
> client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever stopped using it.
>=20
> The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on Linux,
> Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself.
>=20
> HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them all.
> They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), lacking in co=
re
> functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), or can't even get it
> to work at all (Most others).
>=20
> Yours, in utter fury:
>=20
Agreed that Netscape is bad. Not agreed that there are no reliable or
well done email clients. I have used pine for a number of years and
perhaps have gotten used to its interface. I really like the virtual
folders feature and the level of customizability. Unfortunately, my
choice of email client, tkrat, has problems that can be easily fixed
though. Tkrat offers a great feature set with a lot of nice
functionality thrown in like a message database, virtual folders, etc.=20
I also like ishmail which is commercial. Perhaps my favorite console
reader though is mutt. With one .muttrc file one can pretty much
affect all of mutt's default behaviors. Of course if you want a gui
client... Mutt can be run in a console :)
I do understand the fury though. Netscape will not launch mailto's for
me whatsoever. I probably will go back to the 3.04 release which has
always been stable here. It does the stuff too like java, frames,
tables, etc.
--=20
Michael Perry
mperry(a)basin.com
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From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Apr 4 16:40:38 1999
From: brauki@cityweb.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 18:40:38 +0200
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Rachel Greenham wrote:
>=20
> It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This is
> 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable piece
> of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook
> out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a perfectly good email
> client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever stopped using it.
>=20
> The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on Linux,
> Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself.
>=20
Poor Soul, ;-)
there must be something badly wrong. Although some people claim
instability problems on netscape, I havn=C5=BDt had any problems with it for
a long time. Nothing wrong with 6.0=C5=BDs 4.5 version here.
> HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them all.
> They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), lacking in co=
re
> functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), or can't even get it
> to work at all (Most others).
>=20
I can agree to that, I like netscapes ability to sort threads, it looks
better. Tried tkrat, xfmail(?) and a few more, but always returned to
netscape.
> Yours, in utter fury:
>=20
> --
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>=20
> P.S. The sort of fury that probably starts new OSS projects, but I haven't
> got the time right now, there's things I'm trying to DO dammit!
I havn=C5=BDt the skill ;-(
Juergen
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From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sun Apr 4 16:46:44 1999
From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 17:46:44 +0100
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On 04-Apr-99 Rachel Greenham wrote:
>=20
> HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them
> all. They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine),
> lacking in core functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape),
> or can't even get it to work at all (Most others).
>=20
> Yours, in utter fury:
>=20
> --=20
> Rachel
>=20
> P.S. The sort of fury that probably starts new OSS projects, but I
> haven't got the time right now, there's things I'm trying to DO dammit!
Hi Rachel,
Your frustration understood -- nothing worse when nothing works! But have
you tried XFMail?
I've had irritations with some versions, but most work pretty smoothly,
and have LOTS of functionality.
If you need a pointer or two, get in touch.
Ted.
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Date: 04-Apr-99 Time: 17:46:44
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sun Apr 4 16:52:42 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Failed 2.2.5 Upgrade
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 18:52:42 +0200
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Danny Kephart wrote:
> > There is one message that passes by fleetingly about a 'nbat' variable th=
at
> > is not found, but it doesn't stop things.
This is merely a (compiler) warning not a datal error, so things go on.
>=20
> Harry,
> If my thinking is correct, doing a "make dep clean zImage" will just fly
> through the entire process, until it reaches the end. It will not be
> concerned with any errors.
> Using "make dep && make clean && make zImage" will work a little better.
> In essence, it says make dep, and if no errors, make clean, and so on.
> I would also include "make modules && make modules_install".
if e.g. make dep aborts with a fatal error at some point, then
make dep clean zImage will also abort at exactly the same point.
Henning
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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sun Apr 4 17:18:51 1999
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] color and xemacs
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:18:51 -0400
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I found an option in xemacs: Options | Printing options | Enable color
printing. When I select this option my xemacs editor's background
changes from gray to white. It still prints in black though. Does
anybody know how to get it to print in color? It is much easier to read
code that has color syntax highlighting.
TIA,
Steve
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From francis.j.bruening@bigfoot.com Sun Apr 4 17:21:09 1999
From: francis.j.bruening@bigfoot.com
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Subject: RESOLVED: [SuSE Linux] Help with SuSE 6.0 & DCHP support of @Home
cable service
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 10:21:09 -0700
Message-ID: <000101be7ebf$88430720$1c370018@Bruening.potlnd1.or.home.com>
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All,
Thanks for the numerous suggestions and ideas to get this resolved.
Kudo's to Nick Zentena for pointing me to the right place.
1) YaST -> network setup -> use DHCP
2) Backup /sbin/dhclient.conf
3) Edit /sbin/dhclient.conf and add the following line
- send host-name "cNNNNNN-a"
4) run /sbin/dhclient
And all runs perfectly! Hey, that was easy.
Francis
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Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 9:34 PM
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Help with SuSE 6.0 & DCHP support of @Home cable
service
Greetings,
I'm fairly new to Linux, having installed 6.0 a few days ago. I'm trying to
get DCHP
working on my @home cable modem.
I believe I have eth0 configured correctly, but DCHPD times out and doesn't
find a valid IP address
Because @Home DCHP service requires a "hostname". I tried the "-h" flag, but
dhcpd doesn't
See that as a valid flag?
What do I need to do to get this going?
Thanks in advance.
Francis J. Bruening
Francis.j.bruening(a)bigfoot.com
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From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 4 17:32:26 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] spring forward :)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 10:32:26 -0700
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So it works!!! I was sprung forward and I am a happy camper. I just
feel like saying sometimes how ultimately cool linux is and how it does
things. One rather nice piece of functionality I was missing was the
ability to synch my velo hpc (windowsce) to my desktop. I have a palm
which does it nicely with kpilot and korganizer but my velo remained
stand alone until vmware. Now it is possible for me to have my velo
running and synching on my guest win98 machine. That makes things much
more usable for me since I have stored stuff in the velo for some
months without the ability to back them up.
In case you are wondering, vmware does indeed support serial port
communications as well as full networking. It also offers host-only
networking which means a vpn of sorts between the host and guest
machine. I prefer the full network version on our linux network. It
gets a dhcp address and off it goes.
Glad I got the dell inspiron 7000 with 128mb of memory and 366mhz
Pentium II processor now!! :) Vmware runs flawlessly on my laptop.
Take care and hope you all sprung forward too :)
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From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Sun Apr 4 18:30:00 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: To hell with Netscape
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Rachel
>It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This
>is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable
>piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to
>use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a
>perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever
>stopped using it. =20
>
I'm sorry to hear about your own problems just now. I've
worked with Windows and Macs for years. It's very hard when you
start with a new OS and or computer. Things do go wrong.
>The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on =20
>Linux, Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself. > >HEY!=20
LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried >them=20
all. They have at least one of: An unusable user interface >(Pine),=20
lacking in core functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable=20
>(Netscape), or can't even get it to work at all (Most others). > =20
I've got one going at the moment where Kmail works fine until I=20
install XF Mail. Then Kmail stops working and XF Mail won't do=20
anything either. Any help from Ted Harding would be appreciated with=20
this one. I thought about sending a bug report to Gennady about it. =20
There would have been a time when going back to MS Windows
would have been a good option for me. However, I've worked in
internet tech support and that put me off windows quite a bit. All
those people threatening me over the phone because their machines
didn't work put me off it. The OS invites death threats and=20
violence. =20
At least with linux I get to meet nice people who have a different=20
view of the world ? One of my other problems is the growing pile of=20
scrap which has been generated by the testing of new windows=20
software. Broken boards, HDs etc are not something that I welcome. =20
I hope that you can get things to work for you eventually :-)
Richard
Sheffield UK
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From gregt@nadel.com Sun Apr 4 18:40:31 1999
From: gregt@nadel.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 11:40:31 -0700
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> It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This is
> 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable piece
> of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook
> out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a perfectly good email
> client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever stopped using it.
>=20
> The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on Linux,
> Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself.
>=20
> HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them all.
> They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), lacking in co=
re
> functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), or can't even get it
> to work at all (Most others).
Netscape is definitely crap but I don't understand what's so unusable
about Pine? I love it. =20
Greg
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sun Apr 4 18:56:51 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Error recompiling patched kernel
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:56:51 +0200
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Michael Merritt wrote:
> > Apply the attached patch or get the 2.2.5-patch, which fixes this too.
> > If you apply the attached patch, you must revert it if you later want
> > to apply 2.2.5-patch.
> >
> > Henning
>=20
> FWIW, I had to apply this same patch to 2.2.5. Maybe I should have
> removed it from the 2.2.4 tree before patching to 2.2.5? =20
Yes, should have (Imentioned in my message). This is done by invoking
the patch utility again with the -R parameter.=20
> Will that be
> neccessary in the future?
If you kernel sources are correct now, no.
Henning
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From dan_tudor@home.ro Sun Apr 4 19:34:00 1999
From: dan_tudor@home.ro
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:34:00 +0300
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Hi Rachel.
I certainly do understand you. I'm quite a newcomer in Linux world after many
years spent under Windows (from 3.1 to 95, NT, 2000 beta2).=20
Yes, I disliked the graphical gadgets, but I got found of the comfort a GUI
provides. And, besides, no matter how VERY tempting a soft like mutt I believe
(which uses the file system to deposit the mails) it is, I REALLY want to be
able to receive and send HTML formatted mails.
I haven't had any problems yet with Netscape under Linux (but thousands under
Windows), but I hate it because the fonts are horrible.
I like KMail, like all KDE applications (KDE being the first graphical
interface I love more than Windows's), but I agree it lacks fundamental
features:
- HTML support (not damn attachments which, when you open them you see them as
plain text too)
- a basic UNDO feature when editing (I've ruined a lot of messages)
- a spelling checker (not being a native english speaker, it is vital almost
for me)
- stability problems corrections (the application suddenly exits, then the
address book which removes some of the entries...)
But let's give a chance to the guys from KDE (after all it won the CeBIT prize
for best software innovation of 98/99 I believe) - I think it's really a
Windows killer...
Since I haven't had problems with Netscape (using SuSE 6.0 and the Netscape
included in the CD's, why don't you try to reinstall it?) - just a thought,
probably a reminiscence from my previous Windows experience, when the first
thing to be done was to reinstall everything :)
Let's have patience since there are strong signs that Linux is to become much
more comfortable to use than it is in the present days.
Wish you luck,
Dan
On Sun, 04 Apr 1999, Rachel Greenham wrote:
>It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This is
>4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable piece
>of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook
>out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a perfectly good email
>client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever stopped using it.
>
>The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on Linux,
>Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself.
>HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them all.
>They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), lacking in core
>functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), or can't even get it
>to work at all (Most others).
>
>Yours, in utter fury:
>
>--=20
>Rachel
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From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sun Apr 4 19:47:57 1999
From: dwj@linuxtoday.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 12:47:57 -0700
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> Rachel Greenham wrote:
> >=20
> > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an
> > email. This is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably
> > the least reliable piece of "production" software I have ever
> > used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook out of spite, but it
> > really would be spite as I have a perfectly good email client here
> > on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever stopped using it.
Netscape is indeed full of bugs and it is the only application that
ever crashes X on my SuSE 5.2 based workstation. I usually find it
advisable to just kill Netscape every few days and restart it fresh.
Even with this precaution, however, it is important to just stay away
from the most serious Netscape problems.
One of these is trying to use a browser window previously opened in
one virtual screen in a different virtual screen. If you use Netscape
for several different tasks at once, this seems like a plausible way
to keep your work better organized. Stay away from it!
A much better way to go is to open a fresh copy of Netscape in the new
virtual screen and say 'OK' when the dialog box opens informing you
that you will not be able to write update to disk because there is
another Netscape open. This is a reasonably stable way to go and it is
pretty easy to work around the limitation of not being able to update
your bookmarks, etc. in this iteration of Netscape.
Netscape truly evolved into a piece of buggy bloatware in its race
with MSIE. Netscape 5.0, the first open source mozilla release, should
be a big improvement. They have removed the Java VM and written the
basic engine, Ginko, from scratch. It will be released sometime this
year and is worth waiting for.
Also, Opera for Linux is being developed by Troll Tech. It will cost
money, but for people who live on a browser, it will probably be well
worth it. There needs to be a browser for professionals who know what
they are doing. Both Netscape Communicator and MSIE are written for
people who are seeing a browser for the first time.
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From marcelbr@zap.a2000.nl Sun Apr 4 19:50:49 1999
From: marcelbr@zap.a2000.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:50:49 +0200
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On Sun, 04 Apr 1999, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
> Rachel
>=20
> >It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This
> >is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable
> >piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to
> >use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a
> >perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever
> >stopped using it. =20
> >
>=20
> I'm sorry to hear about your own problems just now. I've
> worked with Windows and Macs for years. It's very hard when you
> start with a new OS and or computer. Things do go wrong.
>=20
> >The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on =20
> >Linux, Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself. > >HEY!=20
> LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried >them=20
> all. They have at least one of: An unusable user interface >(Pine),=20
> lacking in core functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable=20
> >(Netscape), or can't even get it to work at all (Most others). > =20
>=20
>=20
> I've got one going at the moment where Kmail works fine until I=20
> install XF Mail. Then Kmail stops working and XF Mail won't do=20
> anything either. Any help from Ted Harding would be appreciated with=20
> this one. I thought about sending a bug report to Gennady about it. =20
>=20
> There would have been a time when going back to MS Windows
> would have been a good option for me. However, I've worked in
> internet tech support and that put me off windows quite a bit. All
> those people threatening me over the phone because their machines
> didn't work put me off it. The OS invites death threats and=20
> violence. =20
>=20
> At least with linux I get to meet nice people who have a different=20
> view of the world ? One of my other problems is the growing pile of=20
> scrap which has been generated by the testing of new windows=20
> software. Broken boards, HDs etc are not something that I welcome. =20
>=20
> I hope that you can get things to work for you eventually :-)
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Richard
> Sheffield UK
> Home of the
> Trans-European
> rain cloud
>=20
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Hi Richard,
Kmail stores its messages in files that have the same names as the
directories of the mailboxes of XFmail. If you want Kmail & XFmail to
peacefully coexist you have to create a subdirectory for XFmail in your
/home/username/Mail directory: something like
/home/username/Mail/xfmail. Next configure XFmail to place its
mailboxes in this directory. To get Kmail working again: delete all
files & directories (accept the newly created xfmail dir) and fire up
Kmail.
Hope this helps.
Marcel.
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From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 4 19:56:56 1999
From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:56:56 +0100
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m>
Michael Perry wrote:
>=20
> On 4 Apr, Rachel Greenham wrote:
> >=20
> > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This
> > is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable
> > piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to
> > use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a
> > perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever
> > stopped using it.
You know what else I like about being back on my Acorn mailer? Decent
reformatting of quotes! :-)
> Agreed that Netscape is bad. Not agreed that there are no reliable or well
> done email clients. I have used pine for a number of years and perhaps
> have gotten used to its interface. I really like the virtual folders
> feature and the level of customizability.
I'm well aware of PINE's feature set. In terms of functionality it's pretty
definitive, but its user interface *is* apalling and although I *could* get
used to it, I don't want to. :-) One thing I've thought of doing is to rip
into the PINE source code and abstract the functionality into an API (if it
isn't already, I haven't looked yet, but I guess not or people would be using
it) and use that to write a decent GUI-based email client. Major project
though, especially as I haven't done *any* X development yet. :-} All my
C/C++ GUI development experience is on Acorns. My current skillset would
point me more to doing a Java/DB style solution though it would have more
system dependencies (Java, Postgres or similar...)
--=20
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From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 4 20:00:47 1999
From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:00:47 +0100
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In message <37079606.F0F7A0D9(a)cityweb.de>
Juergen Braukmann wrote:
> >=20
> > P.S. The sort of fury that probably starts new OSS projects, but I
> > haven't got the time right now, there's things I'm trying to DO dammit!
>=20
> I havn=C5=BDt the skill ;-(
I have the core programming skills, what's more doubtful is whether I have
the time and energy to do that and my paid work, and also the task of
transferring my current GUI programming experience (Acorn/RISC OS) to X -
probably via KDE or GTK though I might go for a Java solution.
--=20
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From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sun Apr 4 20:14:44 1999
From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Re: To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:14:44 +0100
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On 04-Apr-99 Richard Ibbotson wrote:
>=20
> I've got one going at the moment where Kmail works fine until I=20
> install XF Mail. Then Kmail stops working and XF Mail won't do=20
> anything either. Any help from Ted Harding would be appreciated with=20
> this one. I thought about sending a bug report to Gennady about it.
I wouldn't try contacting Gennady -- From what I read between the lines
when the xfmail list was active, Gennady worked like a madman on XFMail
until he was about to finish his PhD, then went quiet, and hasn't been
heard from since (and if anyone else has some news from that front I'd
be most grateful to hear).
XFMail: I'd say the following to anyone intending to start XFMail:
1. If you're using UNIX-style mailfolders (i.e. all messages in one
big file, inbox =3D /var/spool/mail/userid or the like, stored mail
in similar folders under maybe ~/Mail), then
a) make a backup copy of your inbox;
b) ditto for your home Mail folder directory (or, better, "mv" it to a
backup name);
2. Then, and only then, start up XFMail. It will "explode" your inbox and
distribute the messages as individual files in an "MH"-style layout
under ~/Mail (which it will create if necessary), the stuff from inbox
going into ~/Mail/inbox/* (you can recreate "elm" style - UNIX -
mailboxes from within XFMail if you want to).
Once that is done, XFMail should operate straightforwardly. It operates a
fairly sophisticated indexing/caching system, and stores a lot of
relevant information in ~/Mail/.ftemp, ~/Mail/.mbox, and in several files
under ~/.xfmail/.*; and other folders (default folders and any you create
are DIRECTORIES used for storing mail messages as separate files; all of
which it will create first time round. So you don't want anything there
already which might interfere with this, or might get interfered with by
it.
Independent documentation is very sparse. However, the builtin "Help"
is adequate, though at times a bit obscure or confusing.
One problem with XFMail: many operations require a double-click.
The Qt libraries used in XFMail seem to have trouble detecting or reacting
properly to double clicks, and you may have to practice your physical
mouse technique to get the timing right!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Kmail, on the other hand, pulls down your UNIX /var/spool/mail/userid
and stores it as a UNIX-type mail folder in the FILE ~/Mail/inbox.
Hence, the ways that Kmail and XFMail handle mail are incompatible
(which probaboy explains, Richard, why you had problems each way).
Hope this helps any who are interested!
Ted.
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From marcelbr@zap.a2000.nl Sun Apr 4 20:14:51 1999
From: marcelbr@zap.a2000.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:14:51 +0200
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On Sun, 04 Apr 1999, Marcel Broekman wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Apr 1999, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
> > Rachel
> >=20
> > >It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This
> > >is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable
> > >piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to
> > >use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a
> > >perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever
> > >stopped using it. =20
> > >
> >=20
> > I'm sorry to hear about your own problems just now. I've
> > worked with Windows and Macs for years. It's very hard when you
> > start with a new OS and or computer. Things do go wrong.
> >=20
> > >The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on =20
> > >Linux, Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself. > >HEY!=20
> > LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried >them=20
> > all. They have at least one of: An unusable user interface >(Pine),=20
> > lacking in core functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable=20
> > >(Netscape), or can't even get it to work at all (Most others). > =20
> >=20
> >=20
> > I've got one going at the moment where Kmail works fine until I=20
> > install XF Mail. Then Kmail stops working and XF Mail won't do=20
> > anything either. Any help from Ted Harding would be appreciated with=20
> > this one. I thought about sending a bug report to Gennady about it. =20
> >=20
> > There would have been a time when going back to MS Windows
> > would have been a good option for me. However, I've worked in
> > internet tech support and that put me off windows quite a bit. All
> > those people threatening me over the phone because their machines
> > didn't work put me off it. The OS invites death threats and=20
> > violence. =20
> >=20
> > At least with linux I get to meet nice people who have a different=20
> > view of the world ? One of my other problems is the growing pile of=20
> > scrap which has been generated by the testing of new windows=20
> > software. Broken boards, HDs etc are not something that I welcome. =20
> >=20
> > I hope that you can get things to work for you eventually :-)
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Richard
> > Sheffield UK
> > Home of the
> > Trans-European
> > rain cloud
> >=20
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>=20
> Hi Richard,
>=20
> Kmail stores its messages in files that have the same names as the
> directories of the mailboxes of XFmail. If you want Kmail & XFmail to
> peacefully coexist you have to create a subdirectory for XFmail in your
> /home/username/Mail directory: something like
> /home/username/Mail/xfmail. Next configure XFmail to place its
> mailboxes in this directory. To get Kmail working again: delete all
> files & directories=20
IN YOUR /home/username/Mail directory that is. (sorry)
(accept the newly created xfmail dir) and fire up
> Kmail.
>
> Hope this helps.
>=20
> Marcel.
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From francis.j.bruening@bigfoot.com Sun Apr 4 20:16:25 1999
From: francis.j.bruening@bigfoot.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Install KDE 1.1 on suse 6.0 system
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:16:25 -0700
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Hi,
I'm trying to update to KDE 1.1, and have been reading lots of mail
archives, FAQ's, etc, and am still not sure what the right way to proceed
is.
I'm looking for a complete KDE1.1 "package" which will fit into a suse6.0
distribution.
There are a host of files on ftp.suse.com, but no real guidance which says
"install the files in this directory"..
So, a bit more hunting, and I've found
ftp://ftp.linuxberg.com/pub/KDE/stable/1.1/distrib=
ution/rpm/SuSE-6.0/binary/>
Which has about 18 packages or so.
My question: is this the right way to install the new version of KDE 1.1?
Are there some guidelines I'm missing?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Francis J. Bruening
Linux newbie
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From ljackson@techlinks.com Sun Apr 4 20:30:44 1999
From: ljackson@techlinks.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] rc.config's MSQ_DEV
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:30:44 -0700
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Hello:
I have two network cards in a machine where eth0 is connected to my ADSL
line and eth1 is connected to my internal network. I was wondering what
the rc.config variable MSQ_DEV is used for? It is presently set to
'eth0'. Is this an incorrect or unused variable?
I ask the question because I manually enter:
/sbin/ipfwadm -F -p masquerade
..in my /sbin/boot.local file. I was wondering if the MSQ_DEV variable or
any combination of the MSQ_XXX variables could have configured what I do
manually in teh /sbin/boot.local file.
----------------
I struggle between the difference between IP
masquerading/firewalling/forwarding. In my setup, all my Win95 clients on
my internal network have IPs of 192.168.1.x. We all access the internet
via the Linux SuSE 6.0 server/gateway on eth0. Am I masquerading,
firwalling, or forwarding? Is there an easy take away that describes the=20
difference amonst the three?
Thanks all. I'm a newbie having everything working but just want to
understand so I can assist others.
Thanks again
Lester.
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From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 4 20:32:06 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:32:06 -0700
Message-ID: <199904042032.NAA18621@mperry.basin.com>
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On 4 Apr, Rachel Greenham wrote:
>=20
> In message <199904041622.JAA17908(a)mperry.basin.=
com>
> Michael Perry wrote:
>=20
>>=20
>> On 4 Apr, Rachel Greenham wrote:
>> >=20
>> > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This
>> > is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable
>> > piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to
>> > use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a
>> > perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever
>> > stopped using it.
>=20
> You know what else I like about being back on my Acorn mailer? Decent
> reformatting of quotes! :-)
>=20
>> Agreed that Netscape is bad. Not agreed that there are no reliable or well
>> done email clients. I have used pine for a number of years and perhaps
>> have gotten used to its interface. I really like the virtual folders
>> feature and the level of customizability.
>=20
> I'm well aware of PINE's feature set. In terms of functionality it's pretty
> definitive, but its user interface *is* apalling and although I *could* get
> used to it, I don't want to. :-) One thing I've thought of doing is to rip
> into the PINE source code and abstract the functionality into an API (if it
> isn't already, I haven't looked yet, but I guess not or people would be usi=
ng
> it) and use that to write a decent GUI-based email client. Major project
> though, especially as I haven't done *any* X development yet. :-} All my
> C/C++ GUI development experience is on Acorns. My current skillset would
> point me more to doing a Java/DB style solution though it would have more
> system dependencies (Java, Postgres or similar...)
>=20
Well, the pine interface is not what I would consider apalling but
thats for another place and time :). I still believe that we probably
do not have truly robust email client on the order of something like
pegasus mail; but I really never liked pegasus mail either. I truly
like a little win32 emailer called The_Bat which offers some great
customizability. For my console needs, mutt seems to do okay and in
fact more than okay. Still, tkrat offers me the group of features that
I want in an email client overall. Pressed to it, I could name feature
sets or UI enhancements for almost any product. Tkrat is no exception.
Perhaps thats why postillion was done. I have never used postillion but
understand it is quite nifty. I tried compiling it and it has some
tcl/tk issues under suse 6.
I dont know about acorns though so cannot comment on that. Another one
on the drawing board is simply called "M". Its featured on the gnome
website in their software map. I have tried balsa but had some
problems with its interface and fonts.
--=20
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From dan_tudor@home.ro Sun Apr 4 20:32:28 1999
From: dan_tudor@home.ro
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] HDD question
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 23:32:28 +0300
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I have a question concerning the hard drive activity under Linux.
I happen to leave my computer staying idle for few hours and when I get back =
to
it I found that my HDD is spinning furiously even though no aplication is
running and none is using the computer... I wonder if it is normal... I mean =
is
it periodically checking the file system or something??
Thank you for any light you can bring me.
Dan
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From zentara@mindspring.com Sun Apr 4 20:49:42 1999
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:49:42 -0400
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Rachel Greenham wrote:
>=20
> It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This is
> 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable piece
> of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook
I must stick up for the 4.5 version of Netscape
that ships with SUSE6. It is way better than the libc5 versions.
The email function works good for me.
The unsupported netscape451_glibc version works well also.
The only bug that I've noticed is that when you open mail,
it sometimes checks for new emails without being told to do so,
and it locks up the menus while it does this. It is annoying,
but workable.
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From deem@wdm.com Sun Apr 4 20:54:19 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 12:54:19 -0800
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After reading this thread, I am again convinced tha Xi Graphics
has made an excellent display manager to ride on top of XF86 libs.
This makes Communicator work very nice, as colors and fonts are not
an issue as the same way they are under XF86 alone.
It must be that Ishmail works better as resources are avilable also,
and thus I am not looking further.
Just a thought, spend a buck, get a real accelerated manager, and=20
wala......a ripping nice display.
Of course, I'm spoiled rotten, with my G200, Viewsonic monitor
and Accelerated-X :)
-Dee
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From zentara@mindspring.com Sun Apr 4 20:55:19 1999
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] HDD question
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:55:19 -0400
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Dan Tudor wrote:
>=20
> I have a question concerning the hard drive activity under Linux.
> I happen to leave my computer staying idle for few hours and when I get bac=
k to
> it I found that my HDD is spinning furiously even though no aplication is
> running and none is using the computer... I wonder if it is normal... I mea=
n is
> it periodically checking the file system or something??
> Thank you for any light you can bring me.
I would find that highly suspicious on a workstation.
Do a "top" and see what is running.
You can go into yast and disable cron, atd, inetd, etc.
Then there should be no hard drive clicking what-so-ever.
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From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sun Apr 4 21:31:25 1999
From: dwj@linuxtoday.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 14:31:25 -0700
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Rachel Greenham wrote:
>=20
> In message <199904041622.JAA17908(a)mperry.basin.=
com>
> Michael Perry wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > On 4 Apr, Rachel Greenham wrote:
> > >=20
> > > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. Th=
is
> > > is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliab=
le
> > > piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to
> > > use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a
> > > perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever
> > > stopped using it.
>=20
> You know what else I like about being back on my Acorn mailer? Decent
> reformatting of quotes! :-)
=20
I get decent reformatting of quotes, in fact perfect and complete
control of the way the text looks, by using VIM as an alternate editor
in Pine. To reformat a paragraph is just 'gq}' and there are related
commands to reformat both larger and smaller blocks of text.
> I'm well aware of PINE's feature set. In terms of functionality it's pretty
> definitive, but its user interface *is* apalling and although I *could* get
> used to it, I don't want to. :-)=20
I have used Pine for all of the three years it has been since I came
across to Linux from DOS/Windows and, to my taste, the user interface
is quite good. I have tried quite a few other mailers but have found
nothing I like nearly as well. I vastly prefer a key command interface
to one based on clicking the mouse -- it is so much faster and I
prefer to work fast and be as productive as possible. In fact, one of
my main reasons for coming over to Linux from DOS/Windows was to get
back to the vastly greater productivity of the command line and
text-based programs. I do use X, but except for my browser, X is
primarily a platform for mounting as many xterms as I may require to
use VIM and other text-based tools.
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From norrisd@gti.net Sun Apr 4 21:39:17 1999
From: norrisd@gti.net
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] kernel modules loading
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:39:17 -0500
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Hi,
=20
Recently, I upgraded from v2.0.36 kernel to the 2.2.5 kernel. I check=
ed the prerequisites
regarding libraries, bin utilities, linker, etc. all seemed OK.
I grabbed the 2.2.5 tar.gz package and followed the install instructi=
ons. I had to do three
attempts to get PPP support; dispite choosing " y " when the option a=
ppeared in the config
menu sequence, before PPP support showed up in my 'messages'.
Each time I have attempted to get sound card support and have not yet=
gotten there.
I have looked at the HOWTO's and I found documentation in the kernel =
sources .../Documentation/
sound/, which told me to put=20
' alias sound sb
options sb io=3D0x220 irq=3D5 dma=3D1=20
and so forth,=20
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of this /etc/modules.conf ?
Am I wrong? Are the configuration scripts working properly?
Dick Norris
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From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Sun Apr 4 21:40:18 1999
From: jboonen@Worldonline.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] RE: To hell with netscape (Email programs)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 23:40:18 +0200
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Dear Rachel,
I have included a link for email clients and other email programs. I don't=20
know if you're aware of www.linuxberg.com. But you're able to get a lot of=20
free software there. It also shows a rating in the form of pinguins. This is =
the link: http://alpha1.L=
inuxberg.com/x11html/net_email.html> .
By the way i'm also using Netscape both for email and browsing. That is at=20
work. I'm right now on my parents computer. I'm sending this email via an=20
email enabled website. I have the following experiances with Netscape. It=20
handeles low memory quite badly. It might be best to check via df you're lest=
=20
over disc space. Would it be possible to sent information about disc ussage=20
and about the hardware configuration of your computer?
I hope i can help you in that way. The main reason why i choose for Netscape =
is the large number of spelling checkers. I use the English, Dutch and German=
=20
spel checker. If people are interrested in it without downloading all of=20
Netscape let me know. I will try to post them somewhere.
Regards,
Joop Boonen.
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From phil@stokes.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 4 22:43:38 1999
From: phil@stokes.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 23:43:38 +0100
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Nick wrote:
>=20
> I use pine everyday myself. one thing i hate about in, though, is
> that iit has no build in filtering. i use procmail to filter email and
> that doesnt notify me of new mail, when its in something other than my
> inbox. Another thing about pine is that it doesnt support displaying
> attached images, like graphical email clients do. One fof the biggest
> drawbacks of pine, is the fact that i cant send as anyone but my primary
> email account. Im an admin on a server, i have nick(a)myserver.com and
> admin(a)myserver.com .. they both go to nick(a)myserver.com (admin is an
> alias). when i get mail to my admin account, i like to be able to send as
> admin, when getting mail to my nick account, i like to send as nick, as
> far as i know i cant do this with pine.=20
Pine 4.10 can do this with its Roles facility. I've not had any problem
with Pine displaying attached images either, but it does rely on your
mailcap file to work out how to handle them.
Phil
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From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sun Apr 4 22:45:16 1999
From: dwj@linuxtoday.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 15:45:16 -0700
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Nick wrote:
> I use pine everyday myself. one thing i hate about in, though, is
> that iit has no build in filtering. i use procmail to filter email and
> that doesnt notify me of new mail, when its in something other than my
> inbox.=20
It wouldn't take much effort to write a little crontab script to do
this. But I do this by keeping my mail archive index open in Pine --
the mail archive includes all incoming mail regardless of where it
gets filtered to by procmail.
> Another thing about pine is that it doesnt support displaying
> attached images, like graphical email clients do.=20
You can attach viewers for any file type and Pine will launch the
viewer based on the attached file's extension.
> One fof the biggest
> drawbacks of pine, is the fact that i cant send as anyone but my primary
> email account. Im an admin on a server, i have nick(a)myserver.com and
> admin(a)myserver.com .. they both go to nick(a)myserver.com (admin is an
> alias). when i get mail to my admin account, i like to be able to send as
> admin, when getting mail to my nick account, i like to send as nick, as
> far as i know i cant do this with pine.=20
=20
I can think of two ways to do this. First, you used to have to use a
compile-time option to get the capability in Pine to alter the 'From:'
address. But in the latest releases, it is merely a configuration
option.
Second, you could have an 'admin' account as well as a 'nick' account.
You could open Pine in an xterm su'd into the 'admin' account for
handling that mail.
> The best email client ive ever used, unfortunately, has been
> Outlook Express for MS Windows. If anyone knows of an email client similar
> to this for Linux, Xwindows, please let me know. And i believe if someone
> developed an email client with Outlooks full funcionality, it would be
> greatly appreciated in the linux community, even if it was commercial, i'd
> pay if it was like outlook.
=20
The Applix folks talked of doing this when I visited their booth at
Comdex Las Vegas last November. Personally, I have never tried Outlook
Express as I don't use the Microsoft platform.
Something I would like to have in Pine that isn't there is the
capability to open multiple mails into separate windows for easy
reference or cut and paste.
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From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sun Apr 4 22:55:27 1999
From: dwj@linuxtoday.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 15:55:27 -0700
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, W.D.McKinney wrote:
> After reading this thread, I am again convinced tha Xi Graphics
> has made an excellent display manager to ride on top of XF86 libs.
> This makes Communicator work very nice, as colors and fonts are not
> an issue as the same way they are under XF86 alone.
Do I hear you saying that with Accelerated X you don't run out of
colors like you are constantly doing with XFree86?
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From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 5 00:10:48 1999
From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:10:48 +0100
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In message <Pine.LNX.3.96.990404141828.355Q-100000(=
a)runner.aaronsrod.com>
Dwight Johnson wrote:
> > You know what else I like about being back on my Acorn mailer? Decent
> > reformatting of quotes! :-)
> =20
> I get decent reformatting of quotes, in fact perfect and complete
> control of the way the text looks, by using VIM as an alternate editor
> in Pine. To reformat a paragraph is just 'gq}'
ctrl-F6 here. To reformat a paragraph, correctly whatever level of quoting is
involved. Another nice thing this editor does (Zap in ZapEmail mode) is
colour-code each quoting level, and also highlights when a line goes over the
max line length limit you set (if you have auto-wordwrap off).
> and there are related commands to reformat both larger and smaller blocks
> of text.
>=20
> > I'm well aware of PINE's feature set. In terms of functionality it's
> > pretty definitive, but its user interface *is* apalling and although I
> > *could* get used to it, I don't want to. :-)=20
>=20
> I have used Pine for all of the three years it has been since I came across
> to Linux from DOS/Windows and, to my taste, the user interface is quite
> good. I have tried quite a few other mailers but have found nothing I like
> nearly as well. I vastly prefer a key command interface to one based on
> clicking the mouse
Any decent GUI application allows keyboard shortcuts.
> it is so much faster and I prefer to work fast and be as productive as
> possible. In fact, one of my main reasons for coming over to Linux from
> DOS/Windows was to get back to the vastly greater productivity of the
> command line and text-based programs. I do use X, but except for my
> browser, X is primarily a platform for mounting as many xterms as I may
> require to use VIM and other text-based tools.
Well, we have the choice, which is why we use Linux. For my part, I *like* a
rich GUI environment - but I also want it to be elegant, fast, responsive and
reliable. I can't blame people coming from a Windows background for thinking
those are irreconcilable, but I know different. :-) KDE is the nearest yet,
but it's got a ways to go.
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From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 5 00:12:49 1999
From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:12:49 +0100
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In message <3707D066.85DAC442(a)mindspring.com>
zentara wrote:
>=20
> Rachel Greenham wrote:
> >=20
> > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This
> > is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable
> > piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to
> > use Outlook
>=20
> I must stick up for the 4.5 version of Netscape that ships with SUSE6. It
> is way better than the libc5 versions. The email function works good for
> me.
I had several thousand emails in there, and it was gradually getting more
cruddy. Hmm. Make of it what you will.
> The unsupported netscape451_glibc version works well also.
I've now installed Navigator standalone of that version and it seems to be
fine.
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From gwhorn@globalnet.co.uk Mon Apr 5 00:18:25 1999
From: gwhorn@globalnet.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: Why modem initialization hangs on"Expecting
OK"?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 00:18:25 +0000
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Some time ago I queried this list to find out why kppp failed to dial my
ISP properly when I updated from kernel 2.0.36 to 2.2.1. The symptom was
that kppp got as far as "Initialising Modem" and no further. Wvdial
also failed to find my internal sportster 33k modem (port 0x3e8, irq
7)but minicom could communicate with it. I did have success with x-isp
and 2.2.1 but I prefer kppp and the email from Ryan proved to have the
answer to my problem. I had used the MANUAL /etc/rc.d/serial settings
for all my serial ports and had used 16550 instead of the 16550A
reported by the kernel during the boot. Kernel 2.0.36 was happy with
16550 but not 2.2.1. My system is SuSE 6.0 and kernel 2.2.4. I'm very
happy with it.
I've set the uart to 115200 under kppp and the relevant part of
/etc/rc.d/serial is as follows ...
###############################################################
#
# MANUAL CONFIGURATION=20
#
# If you want to do manual configuration of one or more of your=20
# serial ports, uncomment and modify the relevant lines.
#
###############################################################
# These are the standard COM1 through COM4 devices
#
run_setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart 16550A port 0x3F8 irq 4
run_setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart 16550A port 0x2F8 irq 3
run_setserial /dev/ttyS2 uart 16550A port 0x3E8 irq 7
# run_setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16450 port 0x2E8 irq 3
=20
Thanks Ryan!
the original uart settings not verified the type=20
Ryan wrote:
>=20
> I had a similar problem when I upgraded to kernel 2.2.4
>=20
> With the old kernel (2.0.36) I had to (at boot time) set my UART to my mode=
m to
> 16550 rather than 16550A, because for some reason if it was at 16550A it ran
> REALLY slow. But it worked great at 16550. When I got the new kernel, I cou=
ld
> not connect via ppp. And after a week of hair pulling I decided to try UART
> 16550A, and with the new kernel it now works fine!
> This may not be relevant to your problems, but it might help. Try using
> different UARTs. To set different UARTs use 'setserial /dev/modem UART
> xxxxx' -- if you find that this fixes the problem, edit your
> /sbin/init.d/boot.local file and add the setserial line to it. Or you can =
edit
> /sbin/init.d/serial and add the line at the bottom as well, both methods wi=
th
> set your modem to the proper setting at boot time. For my modem I also use
> the spd_vhi flag to set my modem to use the fastest settings. My line in
> /sbin/init.d/boot.local is: 'setserial /dev/modem IRQ 10 UART 16550A
> spd_vhi' .
>=20
> Good luck!
>=20
> Later,
> Ryan
> |ceman
>
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From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 5 00:19:07 1999
From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] RE: To hell with netscape (Email programs)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:19:07 +0100
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In message <923262019.209115.0(a)www.twigger.nl>
jboonen wrote:
> Dear Rachel,
>=20
> I have included a link for email clients and other email programs. I don't =
> know if you're aware of www.linuxberg.com. But you're able to get a lot of =
> free software there. It also shows a rating in the form of pinguins. This
> is the link: http://al=
pha1.Linuxberg.com/x11html/net_email.html> .
Hmm. Might have a look at XFMail actually, I don't think I did try that one
after all.
> By the way i'm also using Netscape both for email and browsing. That is at =
> work. I'm right now on my parents computer. I'm sending this email via an=20
> email enabled website. I have the following experiances with Netscape. It=20
> handeles low memory quite badly. It might be best to check via df you're
> lest over disc space. Would it be possible to sent information about disc
> ussage and about the hardware configuration of your computer?
Trust me, it's got plenty of room. :-)
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From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 5 00:36:23 1999
From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:36:23 +0100
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In message <3707FF72.CB46F249(a)virgosolutions.demon.co.uk>
Ralph Clark wrote:
> I think I know now. Having monitored the Mozilla web site for quite a
> while I see that their often repeated rule-of-thumb definition of
> stability is that it stays up for one to two hours without crashing.
hehe. Probably good enough for Windows.
> Most recently, that was the requirement JWZ stated for the release of
> the current beta version. However they have used that definition before
> and I infer that the measure they'll use to define release quality for
> the final non-Beta version of Communicator will not too different.
> Moreover, experience of Netscape Communicator implies that a similar
> policy applies to commercial Netscape browsers.
>=20
> So my bet is that while Mozilla will be smaller, faster and a more
> accurate HTML renderer, it won't be any more stable.
I have hopes for the Gecko reimplementation. I also hope they'll allow one to
map in a natively installed JVM instead of their own. It's galling wanting to
use the JRun swing-based remote admin applet but not being able to, even
though Blackdown's JDK is perfectly capable of doing it with applications.
> The worst part of all this is when you've been editing a long email in
> Netscape Messenger's mail editor while browsing at the same time. Click
> on one link too many and bang! all Netscape windows close and hours of
> work are down the drain. Or the GUI locks up, all the Netscape windows
> stop refreshing and when in resigned desperation you issue a killall
> -HUP netscape, the whole X session reboots with a core dump.
Wow, I haven't had that happen! Netscape kept dying, but didn't take my
xsession down - unlike the KDE screensaver. Grr.
> (3) turn Java and Javascript off in Preferences if you are doing any
> browsing at all
They were off.
> (4) don't "mouse" the controls on any Netscape windows too much
> (5) keep an eye on memory usage using xosview or something similar
> (6) If you've had any part of Netscape Communicator running for more
> than an hour, close it all down and restart it before beginning your
> edit.
I was getting death after a few minutes. There was crud in files. I could
clear it by deleting a folder's .summary file, forcing it to re-create it,
but it would go wrong again later.
--=20
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From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Mon Apr 5 01:21:05 1999
From: bobbyg@ihug.co.nz
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:21:05 +1200
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Hi yall,
I too find Netscape 4.x a dog on Linux, but it is in my experinece, the
best dog...... Woof?
If I am gonna write a biggie email, I do so in WordPerfect then cut &
paste it in. But even that fix is horrid, since the formatting is
screwed. Suppose I could attach it as a .txt file.
Say, has anyone tried Netscape version 3.x for Unix & will it run on
Linux? Any joy? I would be tempted to use it, afore Mozzila comes
stomping along.
*BFN*
Greek Geek :-)
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From lag@c2i.net Mon Apr 5 01:44:55 1999
From: lag@c2i.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading SuSE > 6.0
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:44:55 +0000
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No, I'm still running SuSE 5.2 which I think was a good
distribution. K-mail runs nicely, and Netscape 4.03 or thereabouts also
runs without any but a few crashes on java here and there.
I haven't bothered about that, but maybe I will.
My KDE 1.0 also is fine although not bug-free. It runs on top of Accelerated-=
X 4.1.1
which gets rid of the color problem with Netscape and Word Perfect 8.
But maybe I'll upgrade come SuSE 6.1
bye now,
Lars
On Sun, 04 Apr 1999 08:47:04 -0500, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
--If you've got SuSE 6.0 you've got'm!
--JLK
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--Lars A Gronningsater wrote:
-->=20
--> On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:48:29 -0600, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
-->=20
--> So what's with the "new libc6 libs" ?
--> Do we need them?
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From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr 5 02:09:58 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:09:58 -0700
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On 5 Apr, Bobby Geortgilakis wrote:
>=20
> Hi yall,
>=20
> I too find Netscape 4.x a dog on Linux, but it is in my experinece, the
> best dog...... Woof?
>=20
> If I am gonna write a biggie email, I do so in WordPerfect then cut &
> paste it in. But even that fix is horrid, since the formatting is
> screwed. Suppose I could attach it as a .txt file.
>=20
> Say, has anyone tried Netscape version 3.x for Unix & will it run on
> Linux? Any joy? I would be tempted to use it, afore Mozzila comes
> stomping along.
>=20
> *BFN*
>=20
> Greek Geek :-)
>=20
I most often used netscape 3.04 for linux. Much more stable performer
and does the major stuff. I used to have the netscape archive site for
the old stuff bookmarked; does anyone happen to have it? I have the
tarball for netscape 3.04 but would like to look around a bit at their
site.
--=20
Michael Perry
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From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Mon Apr 5 02:13:23 1999
From: bobbyg@ihug.co.nz
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape & Netscape version 3.04
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:13:23 +1200
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Hi Yall again,
& especially, Michael Perry who wrote.......
"I most often used netscape 3.04 for linux. Much more stable
performer and does the major stuff. I used to have the netscape archive
ite for the old stuff bookmarked; does anyone happen to have it? I
have
the tarball for netscape 3.04 but would like to look around a bit at
their site.
--
Michael Perry
mperry(a)basin.com"
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You can find it here & you could probabily get it a little faster from a
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I am just downloading it myself :-)
*BFN*
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From jlkreps@navix.net Mon Apr 5 02:33:02 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reason for blowup...
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:33:02 -0500
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I began using Netscape 4.5 when I upgraded to SuSE. It has been a very
good performer for me until this week. Since I had change nothing in
the last couple of weeks I felt that something about Netscape itself
must be changing. The only thing I could think of was the size of the
caches, files, etc... So, I went to the preferences and cleand
everything that had a clean button. I went to the email and emptied the
trash and compacted the files. It hasn't crashed since the cleanup. =20
???
JLK
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From dwj@linuxtoday.com Mon Apr 5 02:34:17 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:34:17 -0700
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On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Bobby Geortgilakis wrote:
> Say, has anyone tried Netscape version 3.x for Unix & will it run on
> Linux? Any joy? I would be tempted to use it, afore Mozzila comes
> stomping along.
Sure, 3.x works fine on Linux. Netscape used to maintain a ftp site
for such obsolete versions. Sorry, can't tell you what it is.
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From jimo@eskimo.com Mon Apr 5 02:40:38 1999
From: jimo@eskimo.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: spring forward :)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:40:38 -0700
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Actually, one of my machines sprang, and the other didn't.
This is the first time I've had Linux fail to change on DST
day, so I'm very surprised. Both running SuSE 5.3.
Can someone tell me where the DST change is controlled?
I must have something different between the two machines,
but nothing, I thought, in the clock department. FWIW,
the machine that failed to spring has been running various
Slackware installations for six years. I upgraded to SuSE
last fall, just after the DST change. This the first time
it hasn't changed with DST.
Thanks in advance,
Jim
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From paulsen@imailbox.com Mon Apr 5 02:51:25 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 and masquerading. Works, but...
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:51:25 -0500
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Yes, I have it working but...
I use the script below to start masquerading on my freshly installed 2.2.5
kernel (on SuSE 6.0) and it seems to be working OK.
But I would like to get it working the "right way" using the boot scripts in
/sbin/init.d. I see that the ipfwadm script checks for ipfwadm vs. ipchains f=
or
accounting but the masquerade script has ipfwadm hard coded and doesn't
appear to understand ipchains. Am I missing something? Is there another
rpm package I should download?
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D[ my script ]=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D
#!/bin/sh
#
IPFDIR=3D/sbin
$IPFDIR/ipchains -P forward DENY
$IPFDIR/ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s 192.168.0.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0
$IPFDIR/ipchains -M -S 900 120 300
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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____________________________________________________________________
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From pmoon@mindspring.com Mon Apr 5 02:52:08 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Fwd: Needed updated packages to go to 2.2.25 kernel
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:52:08 -0500
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Hello folks,
I am just forwarding this to the list in hopes that perhaps someone o=
ut
there that has allready upgraded to 2.2.25 may give me a clue, in case the
people a SuSE can not give me an answer quickly..
Thanks for any input you might provide ...
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Subject: Needed updated packages to go to 2.2.25 kernel
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:33:56 -0500
From: Perry Moon
I know you do not support that kernel, however I just want to ask if you can
tell me where on the ftp server I can update the following base sustem packag=
es
I need before compiling the 2.2.25 kernel according to the changes doc in the
source tree....=20
Trying to find these update packages in the ftp.suse.com directory
structure is frustrating to say the least by modem with diald connecting and
disconnecting after a few seconds of inactivity..
Required Installed from suse6.0 =20
Kernel Modutils 2.1.121 2.1.85
Linux libc5 c libraries 5.4.46 4.7.6 ? (I think)
Linux libc6 c libraries 2.0.7pre6 "" " "
procps 1.2.9 1.2.7
procinfo 16 15
net tools 1.50 1.46
autofs 3.11 not installed (will look ftp)
nfs 2.2beta 40 2.2beta 38
ncpfs 2.2.0 not installed (will look ftp)
pcmcia-cs 3.0.7 not installed ""
util-linux 2.9i not installed
=20
I am reading these requirements from the changes document in the source tree..
I must assume that you have these things somewhere as you are putting the
2.2.25 kernel in SuSE 6.1 .... Please help !
Perry Moon
Systems Specialist=20
Philips NV (Medical Systems North America)
pmoon(a)mindspring.com
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From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr 5 03:04:07 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: spring forward :)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:04:07 -0700
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On 4 Apr, Jim Osborn wrote:
>=20
> Actually, one of my machines sprang, and the other didn't.
> This is the first time I've had Linux fail to change on DST
> day, so I'm very surprised. Both running SuSE 5.3.
>=20
> Can someone tell me where the DST change is controlled?
> I must have something different between the two machines,
> but nothing, I thought, in the clock department. FWIW,
> the machine that failed to spring has been running various
> Slackware installations for six years. I upgraded to SuSE
> last fall, just after the DST change. This the first time
> it hasn't changed with DST.
>=20
> Thanks in advance,
>=20
> Jim
> jimo(a)eskimo.com
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I actually spoke rather soon. My desktop did it but the laptop did not.
When I booted my laptop today, the time had not changed. Both are
running SuSE 6, kernel 2.2.4. I went in and reran the timezone thing
in yast on the laptop. I dont understand why one would spring and the
other did not??
So what does govern this timechange thing? Is it the timezone
variable? Perhaps I had not set it on the laptop?
--=20
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 5 03:42:48 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 and masquerading. Works, but...
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 05:42:48 +0200
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Robert C Paulsen Jr wrote:
>=20
> Yes, I have it working but...
>=20
> I use the script below to start masquerading on my freshly installed 2.2.5
> kernel (on SuSE 6.0) and it seems to be working OK.
>=20
> But I would like to get it working the "right way" using the boot scripts in
> /sbin/init.d. I see that the ipfwadm script checks for ipfwadm vs. ipchains=
for
> accounting but the masquerade script has ipfwadm hard coded and doesn't
> appear to understand ipchains. Am I missing something? Is there another
> rpm package I should download?
The ipchains should include wrapperscripts for ipfwadmin. At least the
Source distribution does. If you have these wrapper scripts, your start
scripts should be able to work without changes.
Henning
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 5 03:47:48 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape & Netscape version 3.04
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 05:47:48 +0200
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Bobby Geortgilakis wrote:
>=20
> Hi Yall again,
>=20
> & especially, Michael Perry who wrote.......
>=20
> "I most often used netscape 3.04 for linux. Much more stable
> performer and does the major stuff. I used to have the netscape archive
>=20
> site for the old stuff bookmarked; does anyone happen to have it? I
> have
> the tarball for netscape 3.04 but would like to look around a bit at
> their site.
>=20
> --
> Michael Perry
> mperry(a)basin.com"
> ----------------------
>=20
> You can find it here & you could probabily get it a little faster from a
> site nearer your end of the Planet too.......
>=20
> http://bluep.Linuxberg.com/x1=
1html/net_web.html>
The original site is ftp://ftp.netscape.com/p=
ub/communicator/>, where the
subdomain may also be substituted with ftp2, ftp3, ftp4 ...
Henning
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 5 03:58:03 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fwd: Needed updated packages to go to 2.2.25 kernel
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 05:58:03 +0200
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Perry Moon wrote:
>=20
> Hello folks,
>=20
> I am just forwarding this to the list in hopes that perhaps someone=
out
> there that has allready upgraded to 2.2.25 may give me a clue, in case the
> people a SuSE can not give me an answer quickly..
This is an enhanced version of the ver_linux script. Execute it to
see which versions you really have installed on your machine.
http://hhv.de/projects/ve=
r-linux/usr/bin/ver-linux>=20
>=20
> Required Installed from suse6.0
>=20
> Kernel Modutils 2.1.121 2.1.85
>=20
> Linux libc5 c libraries 5.4.46 4.7.6 ? (I think)
If you've Suse 6.0, you have 5.4.46 =20
=20
> Linux libc6 c libraries 2.0.7pre6 "" " "
You have 2.0.7
>=20
> procps 1.2.9 1.2.7
>=20
> procinfo 16 15
>=20
> net tools 1.50 1.46
>=20
> autofs 3.11 not installed (will look f=
tp)
>=20
> nfs 2.2beta 40 2.2beta 38
>=20
> ncpfs 2.2.0 not installed (will look ft=
p)
>=20
> pcmcia-cs 3.0.7 not installed ""
>=20
> util-linux 2.9i not installed
>=20
>=20
> I am reading these requirements from the changes document in the source tre=
e..
> I must assume that you have these things somewhere as you are putting the
> 2.2.25 kernel in SuSE 6.1 .... Please help !
=20
Check the following URL for latest versions and urls. Sorry, only urls
for sources, not rpms. But if you should't be able to find an rpm, tell
me.
Henning
--=20
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From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fwd: Needed updated packages to go to 2.2.25 kernel
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 06:05:41 +0200
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followup to my previous mail. Forgot the url:
http://hhv.de/projects/svs/usr/shar=
e/svs/vers>
Henning
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From gregt@nadel.com Mon Apr 5 04:47:33 1999
From: gregt@nadel.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:47:33 -0700
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Dwight Johnson wrote:
>=20
> On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Rachel Greenham wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > In message <199904041622.JAA17908(a)mperry.basi=
n.com>
> > Michael Perry wrote:
> >=20
> > >=20
> > > On 4 Apr, Rachel Greenham wrote:
> > > >=20
> > > > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. =
This
> > > > is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reli=
able
> > > > piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to
> > > > use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a
> > > > perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I e=
ver
> > > > stopped using it.
> >=20
> > I'm well aware of PINE's feature set. In terms of functionality it's pret=
ty
> > definitive, but its user interface *is* apalling and although I *could* g=
et
> > used to it, I don't want to. :-)=20
>=20
> I have used Pine for all of the three years it has been since I came
> across to Linux from DOS/Windows and, to my taste, the user interface
> is quite good. I have tried quite a few other mailers but have found
> nothing I like nearly as well. I vastly prefer a key command interface
> to one based on clicking the mouse -- it is so much faster and I
> prefer to work fast and be as productive as possible. In fact, one of
> my main reasons for coming over to Linux from DOS/Windows was to get
> back to the vastly greater productivity of the command line and
> text-based programs. I do use X, but except for my browser, X is
> primarily a platform for mounting as many xterms as I may require to
> use VIM and other text-based tools.
>=20
I couldn't agree more with Dwight's comments about speed and productivity.
On the MS side I used Netscape, Eudora and Outlook, and after discovering
Pine I use it at work exclusively even though I have my choice of any of
the Windows programs.
Later, Greg
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From deem@wdm.com Mon Apr 5 05:11:12 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape & Netscape version 3.04
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:11:12 -0800
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Try,
http:=
//home.netscape.com/download/archive/client_index2.html>
Best Regards
Dee
Michael Perry wrote:
>=20
> On 5 Apr, hhv wrote:
> >=20
> > Bobby Geortgilakis wrote:
> >>=20
> >> Hi Yall again,
> >>=20
> >> & especially, Michael Perry who wrote.......
> >>=20
> >> "I most often used netscape 3.04 for linux. Much more stable
> >> performer and does the major stuff. I used to have the netscape archive
> >>=20
> >> site for the old stuff bookmarked; does anyone happen to have it? I
> >> have
> >> the tarball for netscape 3.04 but would like to look around a bit at
> >> their site.
> >>=20
> >>=20
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From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr 5 05:17:19 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape & Netscape version 3.04
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:17:19 -0700
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On 5 Apr, hhv wrote:
>=20
> Bobby Geortgilakis wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi Yall again,
>>=20
>> & especially, Michael Perry who wrote.......
>>=20
>> "I most often used netscape 3.04 for linux. Much more stable
>> performer and does the major stuff. I used to have the netscape archive
>>=20
>> site for the old stuff bookmarked; does anyone happen to have it? I
>> have
>> the tarball for netscape 3.04 but would like to look around a bit at
>> their site.
>>=20
>> --
>> Michael Perry
>> mperry(a)basin.com"
>> ----------------------
>>=20
>> You can find it here & you could probabily get it a little faster from a
>> site nearer your end of the Planet too.......
>>=20
>> http://bluep.Linuxberg.com/x=
11html/net_web.html>
>=20
> The original site is <=
A HREF=3D"ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/ftp://ftp.netscape.com=
/pub/communicator/>, where the
> subdomain may also be substituted with ftp2, ftp3, ftp4 ...
>=20
> Henning
>=20
Unfortunately, this url only gets the most recent ones. The older ones
are placed on some archive site with a different name. I used to have
that bit of information, but seem to have lost it. Luckily, I do have
the tarball on a jaz disk. Sometimes I am happy with my anal
desire to save most everything to jaz drives. :) Everything but the
name of that archive site that netscape/aol (?) maintains.=20
I just cruised the regular archives at ftp.netscape.com and the older
ones are conspicuously absent and the directories start with someting
like 4.03 and go up from there.
--=20
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From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr 5 05:46:51 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape & Netscape version 3.04
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:46:51 -0700
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On 4 Apr, W.D.McKinney wrote:
> Try,
>=20
> htt=
p://home.netscape.com/download/archive/client_index2.html>
>=20
> Best Regards
> Dee
>=20
Most excellent!!! Thanks much.
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From alfiesty@chaffee.net Mon Apr 5 07:04:30 1999
From: alfiesty@chaffee.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
[SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 and "Unable to open an initial console"
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:04:30 -0600
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Good Friday was really good to me, SuSE 6.0 arrived!!
I loaded it on Saturday, 4 times(don't ask) but continue=20
to get this strange problem. If I boot the system from my HD I get the
message "Unable to open an initial console". It comes after all the SCSI
disks are recognized and the partitions mounted. Immediately before the
message is the step "VFS:Mounted root(ext2 filesystem) readonly". If I boot
from the floppy made during installation it boots OK and the system is
useable. Not that I will boot that often, but it is strange and I would
like to fix it.
Jim
System is:
Nx 586-133 with 32M, 512K Cashe
Adaptek 1542A SCSI controller with
4 SCSI Hard Disks, .7, 1.0, 1.3, and 2G
SCSI CD ROM
Diamond Stealth PCI w/4M
WD 8013EP Ethernet
2 Serial, 1 Parallel on Motherboard
Mouse on Cua1, Modem on Cua2
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From alain.buret@village.uunet.be Mon Apr 5 07:30:30 1999
From: alain.buret@village.uunet.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Removing UPS
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:30:30 +0200
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Hi everybody
I installed SuSE 6.0 a few daysago, replacing an old Slackware 3.3 ...
whaow !!!
But, when installing software, I asked to install support for UPS (power
supply) ... I thought it was simply a module that I could activate the
way I want ... but in fact, it's loaded at boot, thru the /etc/rc.config
I assume. I made search but I can't found the way to remove it ... I saw
the argo file to configure, but nothing more ... should I simply remove
this file ?
Alain BURET
Belgium
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From tux@datapro.co.za Mon Apr 5 07:48:58 1999
From: tux@datapro.co.za
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:48:58 +0200
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On Sun, Apr 04, 1999 at 06:40:38PM +0200, Juergen Braukmann wrote:
> there must be something badly wrong. Although some people claim
> instability problems on netscape, I havn=C5=BDt had any problems with it for
> a long time. Nothing wrong with 6.0=C5=BDs 4.5 version here.
Well I had Netscape hang twice over the weekend. When I surf I like to
find a page to read then leave it for later while carrying on in a new
window. Then I can read them at my leisure after disconnecting from my
ISP.
When the currently downloading window hangs it prevents all the others
from repainting so I can't read the pages I have kept and must reload
them all after killing Netscape. At South African Telkom rates this is
more than just irritating.
> I can agree to that, I like netscapes ability to sort threads, it looks
> better. Tried tkrat, xfmail(?) and a few more, but always returned to
> netscape.
I got tired of Netscape's mail because it looks lousy (even with
TrueType fonts), refuses to remember things like frame widths, etc just
the way I like them and the fact that it is tied so tightly to the
browser. The browser seems to be the unstable part and it is really
painful when it takes the mailer down with it. Comparing Netscape to
Internet Explorer/Outlook Express, I think that MS took the better route
by keeping them as separate executables.
--=20
Steve Crane
stevec(a)netlane.com
http://www.datapro.co.za/~stevec>
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From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Apr 5 08:14:43 1999
From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: HDD question
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 10:14:43 +0200
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Hi,
On Sun, Apr 04, 1999 at 23:32 +0300, Dan Tudor wrote:
> I have a question concerning the hard drive activity under Linux.
> I happen to leave my computer staying idle for few hours and when I get bac=
k to
> it I found that my HDD is spinning furiously even though no aplication is
> running and none is using the computer... I wonder if it is normal... I mea=
n is
> it periodically checking the file system or something??
> Thank you for any light you can bring me.
Check if a cron job is running (see /var/log/messages).
Ciao,
Stefan
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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Mon Apr 5 09:43:30 1999
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Cable Modem Question
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:43:30 +0200
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Nick wrote:
> Hello, Ive had my cable modem hooked up succesfully for over a month now,
> im using the @home services.
>=20
> my problem is that it doesnt seem to be as fast as its "cracked up" to be,
> particularly when telneting to my remote server and editing files remotely
Hi Nick;
I don't have a cable, not here yet. But I remember someone saying a few
weeks ago that a cable modem is only as fast as the slowst part of your
connection. This guy was in the US and was d/l'ing something from Poland.
He said that it was no better than a normal 56k modem. This maybe is your
problem too.=20
Hope this helps!
J
I
M
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From john.ericson@home.se Mon Apr 5 09:51:41 1999
From: john.ericson@home.se
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Install KDE 1.1 on suse 6.0 system
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 02:51:41 +0000
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Im using SuSE 6.0 and I downloaded all of the files I needed and it worked
perfectly. I havent seen a *big 1* complete KDE 1.1 upgrade rpm.
At 13:16 1999-04-04 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>I'm trying to update to KDE 1.1, and have been reading lots of mail
>archives, FAQ's, etc, and am still not sure what the right way to proceed
>is.
>
>I'm looking for a complete KDE1.1 "package" which will fit into a suse6.0
>distribution.
>
>There are a host of files on ftp.suse.com, but no real guidance which says
>"install the files in this directory"..
>
>So, a bit more hunting, and I've found
>
>ftp://ftp.linuxberg.com/pub/KDE/stable/1.1/distri=
bution/rpm/SuSE-6.0/binary/>
>
>Which has about 18 packages or so.
>
>My question: is this the right way to install the new version of KDE 1.1?
>
>Are there some guidelines I'm missing?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Regards,
>
>Francis J. Bruening
>Linux newbie
>
>
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From john.ericson@home.se Mon Apr 5 10:01:22 1999
From: john.ericson@home.se
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Apache. Error running CGI-script.
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 03:01:22 +0000
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Isnt that line just for cgi-scripts outside the /usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin/
directory. Anyway I still get the same error message.
here is a cut from my httpd.conf file:
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin/"
#
# "/usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin" should be changed to whatever your ScriptAliased
# CGI directory exists, if you have that configured.
#
AllowOverride None
Options None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
# cgi-bin for SuSE help system
# using SetHandler
AllowOverride None
Options +ExecCGI -Includes
SetHandler cgi-script
# enable perl for cgi-bin
#
AddHandler perl-script .pl
PerlHandler Apache::Registry
PerlSendHeader On
Options +ExecCGI
>
>I'm not sure the exact lines to use, but you must
>specify the .cgi type to be allowed in your
>http.conf. I think it is called an "AddHandler"
>
>I have a line " AddHandler cgi-script .cgi"
>
>But I don't know if you can run a perl script
>as a .cgi file, it might conflict with
>the Addhandler for perl scripts.
>
>Try running a bash shell script with a .cgi ending.
>
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From brauki@cityweb.de Mon Apr 5 10:07:45 1999
From: brauki@cityweb.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reason for blowup...
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:07:45 +0200
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Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
>=20
> I began using Netscape 4.5 when I upgraded to SuSE. It has been a very
> good performer for me until this week. Since I had change nothing in
> the last couple of weeks I felt that something about Netscape itself
> must be changing. The only thing I could think of was the size of the
> caches, files, etc... So, I went to the preferences and cleand
> everything that had a clean button. I went to the email and emptied the
> trash and compacted the files. It hasn't crashed since the cleanup.
>=20
> ???
>=20
Similar experiance here. (Netscape 3.x as I remember). Clicking onto a
mail would cause Netscape do draw every bit of gettable memory. You
could see the bars in xosview rise to the right, even swap.
In the end, I deleted my .netscape dir and started from scratch. I never
found out what caused that.
Juergen
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From snieto@sc.sas.cica.es Mon Apr 5 10:59:32 1999
From: snieto@sc.sas.cica.es
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] rdist
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:59:32 +0200
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Hello,
I have problems with rsh and root user, you can say me that I had o
allowed a remote access ( ROOT_LOGIN_REMOTE=3D"yes" ), I have written the
remote hosts in /etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.equiv, and in /root/.rhosts, but
I can=C5=BDt use rlogin, rsh, rcp, ... with root user.
My problem is that I want to use rdist to maintain identical copies
of files over two hosts, and root is the owner of these files. How can I
use rdist if I'm root user ?
Thank you
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From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Mon Apr 5 12:52:41 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] [Off Topic] What is the
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:52:41 +0200
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Maurizio Firmani wrote:
>=20
> correct way to pronounce Apache?
Like zentara said apatchee
The name (of the web-server) has nothing to do with
native Americans. It is purely intended as a pun.
The coders started with another web-server (NCSA httpd I think)
and applied a lot of their own patches. Thus
the result was a patchy web-server,
which became Apache web-server.
--=20
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From kester@cwcom.net Mon Apr 5 13:01:10 1999
From: kester@cwcom.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:01:10 +0100
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I sympathise with this, I just cannot find the email program I want under
Linux - Pine is OK, but faffing about with endless docs about
sendmail/fetchmail etc is getting to be tedious and no URL 'click and
view' stuff is a nusiance...=20
Anybody know if tkrat is any good? I installed mine from the SuSE 5.3 CD
today and it just didn't work: all kinds of errors. :-(
k.
On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Rachel Greenham wrote:
>=20
> It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This is
> 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable piece
> of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook
> out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a perfectly good email
> client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever stopped using it.
>=20
> The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on Linux,
> Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself.
>=20
> HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them all.
> They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), lacking in co=
re
> functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), or can't even get it
> to work at all (Most others).
>=20
> Yours, in utter fury:
>=20
> --=20
> Rachel
>=20
> P.S. The sort of fury that probably starts new OSS projects, but I haven't
> got the time right now, there's things I'm trying to DO dammit!
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From tobiasschaefer@gmx.de Mon Apr 5 13:09:52 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Fax
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:09:52 +0200
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Hello,
I want to install an Linux-Faxserver in a Win9x LAN which only sends
faxes.=20
Which software do I need to install? No frontend is needed since the
Linux-Server only serves as a server.
How do get the Win9x-Computers to ask for the fax Number?
Thanks
Tobias
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From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Mon Apr 5 13:40:29 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Cable Modem Question
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 08:40:29 -0500
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Hi,
On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Nick wrote:
>=20
> when i ping remote servers, sometimes there will be a large delay, like
> from an avg of 30 mioli seconds to one thats 160 mili seconds,, and a 30%
> packet loss. maybe thats normal, i dont know, like i said, ive only had
> this cable modem a month.
this ping times and a pcket loss is definitely not normal.
i would complain to provider.
try pinging your gateway and see if the stats are still that bad.
traceroute to your destination host and see where the link is slow or bad.
-alexm
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From nhasan@usa.net Mon Apr 5 13:57:56 1999
From: nhasan@usa.net
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Sound Card (CS4236B) with 2.2.5
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:57:56 -0400
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Hi,
I just compiled 2.2.5 with sound driver as a module. I have Dell XPSR
with on-board
Crystal Semiconductor CS4236B sound card. I am not able to configure my
card
properly. When I try to load the module from command line it gives me
"resource
busy" error after a minute of lockup. With my 2.0.36, I had tried OSS
with no luck.
Now when I do cat /dev/sndstat, I see OSS as the sound driver although I
uninstalled
the OSSFREE package. How do I get rid of OSS and get my sound working
with
kernel compiled drivers?
I have done make modules and make modules_install.
Cheers,
Nadeem
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From imm@KidsCare.Net Mon Apr 5 14:01:36 1999
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Subject:
Re(2): [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reason for blowup...
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:01:36 -0500
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brauki(a)cityweb.de writes:
>>=20
>> I began using Netscape 4.5 when I upgraded to SuSE. It has been a very
>> good performer for me until this week. Since I had change nothing in
>> the last couple of weeks I felt that something about Netscape itself
>> must be changing. The only thing I could think of was the size of the
>> caches, files, etc... So, I went to the preferences and cleand
>> everything that had a clean button. I went to the email and emptied the
>> trash and compacted the files. It hasn't crashed since the cleanup.
>>=20
We'll the good news is operasoftware will release a linux browser soon. yea
I tried this for a while in windows and I found it to be a
great fast littlew browser only 4mb!!=20
The bad news is that they want money for it but hell I might actually buy
a piece
of software. Once you are accustomed to opera there isn't a better browser.
L8R
ian the sane
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From ksaj@xoommail.com Mon Apr 5 14:27:30 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 07:27:30 -0700
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alexm wrote:
>=20
>=20
> http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.htm=
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Excellent. :)
The photos were the best.
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From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Mon Apr 5 14:57:19 1999
From: richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] maximal mount count, check forced..?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:57:19 +0100
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Hi
What does this mean:
maximal mount count, check
forced?
It appears sometimes on booting SuSE Linux
6.0
Thanks
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From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Mon Apr 5 16:31:43 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] ethernet BNC and TP
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:31:43 -0500
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Hi,
a question on ethernet :-)
I friend of mine connected 4 machines with the bnc cable (properly
terminated and stuff): linux, solaris, aix, and, of course, win95.
(Note: I told him that BNC is slow and that TP is much better ;-) )
The problem is that solaris, aix, and win95 can ping to each other, while
linux can only ping to itself.
I could not find anything wrong with his setup.
SUN-----------linux---------win95---------AIX --> all on the same cable
linux machine is in the middle.
the card is porperly recognized and is UP.
IP address and netmask look OK.
Now here is the question:
Do you have to specify what connection you are using on an ethernet card:
BNC or TP?
If yes, then how?
Also, why do you think this setup does not work?
Thank you for your time and effort :-)
-alexm
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From sagamp@viagate.com Mon Apr 5 16:43:36 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] PHP & Apache on Suse5.3
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:43:36 -0400
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Has anyone successfully built a PHP DSO for Apache ?
Suse installs apcahe in its own way - quite difficut to install/build
modules into it. Is there any help documented anywhere for using the
apache development package ?
Thanks
-Deep
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From sinthetk@inlink.com Mon Apr 5 16:48:53 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:48:53 -0500
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Hello all,
I have been following this for the last few days, and I just don't
understand why I am so special :)
I use Netscape 4.5 the 128 bit version. I downloaded it at work when I
was bored one day along with just about every windowmaker theme I could
find. I didn't install Netscape from the SuSE cd's, I always tend to
download it from netscapes site cause I use the 128 bit version. I have
been using Netscape for mail, browsing...etc...for a very long time. I
first used it around the beta's for version 1.0 and I have never had a
problem with it. I have been reading all these weird things in the posts
about crashs..etc...and I never get it.
About certain " features " .. I just disabled it's ability to retrieve
my mail without asking..and set every preference in netscape as detailed
to what I like as I could. I do agree that it's annoying that when you
are downloading a file or going to a huge website that you can't check
your mail cause the button isn't usable..I can live with that. I never
have it crash on me, but I will agree that it's a memory hog..oh well, I
have 256 megs of ram..let it play :)
I write at least 200 e-mails a day and it doesn't belch at me at all,=
I
don't know if it is because I downloaded it from netscape and didn't
install it from the SuSE cd's *shrug* I don't know..oh well...I guess it
must be some variable like the video card or another piece of hardware
that is causing the problems...well, that's about it from this Netscape
user :)
> I must stick up for the 4.5 version of Netscape
> that ships with SUSE6. It is way better than the libc5 versions.
> The email function works good for me.
>=20
> The unsupported netscape451_glibc version works well also.
>=20
> The only bug that I've noticed is that when you open mail,
> it sometimes checks for new emails without being told to do so,
> and it locks up the menus while it does this. It is annoying,
> but workable.
--=20
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From HKNIEF@taos.com Mon Apr 5 17:12:55 1999
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] ethernet BNC and TP
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 10:12:55 -0700
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It depends on the card you're using... some of the older combo ISA cards
(3Com 3C509, etc.)needed to be configured via their (3Com's) utilities
disk before they would operate correctly (this set the IRQ, base
address, and port.) Most newer card auto-sense...
- Herman
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alexm [SMTP:alexm(a)quake.tx.symbio.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 9:32 AM
> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Subject: [SuSE Linux] ethernet BNC and TP
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> a question on ethernet :-)
>=20
> I friend of mine connected 4 machines with the bnc cable (properly
> terminated and stuff): linux, solaris, aix, and, of course, win95.
> (Note: I told him that BNC is slow and that TP is much better ;-) )
> The problem is that solaris, aix, and win95 can ping to each other,
> while
> linux can only ping to itself.
> I could not find anything wrong with his setup.
>=20
> SUN-----------linux---------win95---------AIX --> all on the same
> cable
>=20
> linux machine is in the middle.
> the card is porperly recognized and is UP.
> IP address and netmask look OK.
> Now here is the question:
> Do you have to specify what connection you are using on an ethernet
> card:
> BNC or TP?
> If yes, then how?
> Also, why do you think this setup does not work?
>=20
> Thank you for your time and effort :-)
>=20
> -alexm
>=20
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Mon Apr 5 17:32:11 1999
From: northsky@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Removing UPS
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:32:11 -0400
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On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Alain BURET wrote:
>=20
> Hi everybody
>=20
> I installed SuSE 6.0 a few daysago, replacing an old Slackware 3.3 ...
> whaow !!!
> But, when installing software, I asked to install support for UPS (power
> supply) ... I thought it was simply a module that I could activate the
> way I want ... but in fact, it's loaded at boot, thru the /etc/rc.config
> I assume. I made search but I can't found the way to remove it ... I saw
> the argo file to configure, but nothing more ... should I simply remove
> this file ?
No... that would cause error messages when you start up. You realise, of
course, that Slackware uses BSD-style initialisation, whereas SuSE, for
some unknown reason, uses SysV-style intialisation. Which means that the
experience of grepping through the files in /etc/rc.d maybe be slightly
different. However, there is a README in /etc/rc.d that explains the whole
thing ("The SuSE Boot Concept", perhaps to be followed up by the SuSE
"leisure concept"...).
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From sinthetk@inlink.com Mon Apr 5 17:51:45 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] netscape and hardware
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:51:45 -0500
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I agree with the last post about a hardware summary.. my machine is as
follows..
Sony Multiscan 200sx
PII 266 (512k cache)
Intel PD440FX MB
128 megs of EDO Ram
Adaptec 2940UW SCSI controller
Matrox Millinium II (pci) 4 meg
Teac 32X SCSI CDROM
Fujitzu UW 4.3 gig HD
Connor SCSI 2 HD (boot drive)
I have not had any problems with this hardware, and it's starting
to become very outdated...*shrug*
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Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:25:45 -0400
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Nick, , wrote:
> Hello, Ive had my cable modem hooked up succesfully for over a month now,
> im using the @home services.
>=20
> my problem is that it doesnt seem to be as fast as its "cracked up" to be,
> particularly when telneting to my remote server and editing files remotely
The performance factor that matters when telneting is latency, not
bandwidth. I can use my own modem connection at my office for ppp
connections or i can use an ISP's connection. With the ISP I get twice the
bandwidth but much worse latency. Bandwidth isn't a big issue telneting,
but latency is. With bad latency I can type well ahead of the the
characters appearing on the screen (and I'm a SLOW typist). The problem is
that the ISP is connecting to my remote system via several internet hops.
When I use my own system as a ppp server, I have only a single local 'hop'
between me and the remote system.
Your cable modem offers large bandwidth (for downloads), but no lower
latency than a regular ISP.
Mark
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From chjo@tripnet.se Mon Apr 5 19:07:08 1999
From: chjo@tripnet.se
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] maximal mount count, check forced..?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:07:08 +0200
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> Richard Booth wrote:
>=20
> Hi
>=20
> What does this mean:
>=20
> maximal mount count, check forced?
>=20
> It appears sometimes on booting SuSE Linux 6.0
>=20
> Thanks
> Rich
This is what the LDP Linux-FAQ says:
This message is issued by the kernel when it mounts a file system that's
marked as clean, but whose ``number of mounts since check''
counter has reached the predefined value. The solution is to get the latest
version of the ext2fs utilities (e2fsprogs-0.5b.tar.gz at the time
of writing) from the usual sites. (` Where can I get Linux material by FTP?
'')=20
The maximal number of mounts value can be examined and changed using the
tune2fs program from this package.=20
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From tschlemmer@sequeltech.com Mon Apr 5 19:16:27 1999
From: tschlemmer@sequeltech.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Removing UPS
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:16:27 -0700
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The easiest way I've found for controlling whether a service or daemon
process is started up is to find the apppropriate variable in the
/etc/rc.config file and set it to a value of "no". If you look at the
various control scripts in the /etc/rc.d directory you can see that they
all source in the /etc/rc.config file and if the variable they care
about is set to "yes" then they startup the specified program otherwise
the script generally does nothing.
Ewan Dunbar wrote:
>=20
> On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Alain BURET wrote:
>=20
> >
> > Hi everybody
> >
> > I installed SuSE 6.0 a few daysago, replacing an old Slackware 3.3 ...
> > whaow !!!
> > But, when installing software, I asked to install support for UPS (power
> > supply) ... I thought it was simply a module that I could activate the
> > way I want ... but in fact, it's loaded at boot, thru the /etc/rc.config
> > I assume. I made search but I can't found the way to remove it ... I saw
> > the argo file to configure, but nothing more ... should I simply remove
> > this file ?
>=20
> No... that would cause error messages when you start up. You realise, of
> course, that Slackware uses BSD-style initialisation, whereas SuSE, for
> some unknown reason, uses SysV-style intialisation. Which means that the
> experience of grepping through the files in /etc/rc.d maybe be slightly
> different. However, there is a README in /etc/rc.d that explains the whole
> thing ("The SuSE Boot Concept", perhaps to be followed up by the SuSE
> "leisure concept"...).
>=20
> ------------------------------------------------
> Ewan Dunbar
> ------------------------------------------------
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From wolfsong@blaze.ca Mon Apr 5 19:24:39 1999
From: wolfsong@blaze.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reason for blowup...
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:24:39 -0700
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Hey, all -=20
For those who are interested, there's a lovely little browser called
Grail....developed with Python.
check out: http://monty.cnri.reston.va.us/grail/=
A>
Although i've not had a horrendous amount of difficulty with Netscape,
Grail intrigues me...and what is more, those who started it are
apparently abandoning the project due to time constraints. Which means
that, for those who are interested, here's a nice chance to add our
$0.02 to the project.
any takers?
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From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Mon Apr 5 19:59:02 1999
From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] maximal mount count, check forced..?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 20:59:02 +0100
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On 05-Apr-99 Tina wrote:
>> Richard Booth wrote:
>> What does this mean:
>> maximal mount count, check forced?
>> It appears sometimes on booting SuSE Linux 6.0
>=20
> This is what the LDP Linux-FAQ says:
>=20
> This message is issued by the kernel when it mounts a file system
> that's marked as clean, but whose ``number of mounts since check''
> counter has reached the predefined value. The solution is to get the
> latest version of the ext2fs utilities
Calling this "the solution" implies that the message is "a problem".
Maximal mount count is there for a purpose, which has to do with the fact
that you can have a filesystem cleanly shut down and marked as "clean",
yet still have errors on it which would be picked up by running fsck.
Since there is the possibility of a filesystem error creeeping in over
time, it is wise to check it anyway, once in a while. It is handy that
the system does this for you automatically, and the only change I could
recommend would possibly be to increase the value of max-mount-count but
not so much that it hardly ever happens.
It may be irritating that once in a while the system takes 10 minutes to
boot instead of 2, but I reckon it's worth it.
Ted.
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From tsteven@maptel.es Mon Apr 5 20:08:19 1999
From: tsteven@maptel.es
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:08:19 +0200
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Hi all,
After the recent thread on e-Mail clients I thought I would check a
sample of recent postings to this list to see what people actually use,
rather than what they say they like. Here are the results:-
Mozilla /Linux..........13 Mozilla /Win-x..........5
Pine /Linux.......... 9 Outlook /Win-x..........5
KMail /Linux.......... 6 Eudora /Win-x..........2
Mutt /Linux.......... 4 Pegasus /Win-x..........1
Xfmail /Linux.......... 3 =20
Ishmail /Linux.......... 1 Pine4 /Unix...........1
WebMail /Linux.......... 1
PMMail /Linux.......... 1 FoxMail /????...........1
I am not saying that this is a fair sample nor that it is statistically
valid but it does support a problem I had, that is.- why so many people
are complaining ( on this list ) about Netscape >4 when I have never had
it crash:- it obviously works ok for many people.I use SuSE 5.3//kernel
2.0.36//X+blackbox (wm). Running multiple copies/ cutting and pasting
messages etc is not a problem as has been posted here :> ).
Newbie question: If one hasn't changed any hardware and there hasn't
been a major change like libc5>libc6, is there any good reason to update
kernels????.
bye Trevor.
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From shangowhite@hotmail.com Mon Apr 5 20:12:59 1999
From: shangowhite@hotmail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Cable Modem Question II
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:12:59 -0700
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I got TCI =3D)
Ok, I first tested the modem with my computer and it has a new Linksys=20
10/100 card in it. It got enormous speed =3D)
Then I did soem work put a 16 port hub on the modem, hooked up 4=20
computers as of right now. Usually only 2 computers are asking for=20
packets.
Now my problem is. My computer is signaling problems. It has no problem=20
with websites but downloads are unbearable slow. I am lucky if I reach=20
twice the speed of a 56k. As I said simple browsing is fast.
Now the other computers have a winbond 10/100 card in them. They have=20
also no problem browsing. Downloading is though faster than on my=20
machine. It still doesn't reach the speed when I ran it without hub.
I imagine the hub puts a small speed trap in there but not to the amount=20
I see it imagineable.
By how much should the hub affect this or do I have a defect card in my=20
machine. I believe TCI also takes part in the slow down as sometimes=20
their service entirely drops out with 5-30 second gaps.
How do I know if I have a defective network card???
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From zentara@mindspring.com Mon Apr 5 20:35:00 1999
From: zentara@mindspring.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] maximal mount count, check forced..?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:35:00 -0400
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> Richard Booth wrote:
>=20
> Hi
>=20
> What does this mean:
>=20
> maximal mount count, check forced?
>=20
> It appears sometimes on booting SuSE Linux 6.0
>=20
There is a filesystem checking utility called
tune2fs. By default, a value of 10 is set to it,
so every tenth bootup, your ext2fs will be checked
for errors.
You can change it. I have mine set at 100.
Look at man tune2fs.
You need to do it for each drive mounted.
Example:
tune2fs -c 100 /dev/hda1
tune2fs -c 100 /dev/hda2
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From zentara@mindspring.com Mon Apr 5 20:35:18 1999
From: zentara@mindspring.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound Card (CS4236B) with 2.2.5
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:35:18 -0400
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Nadeem Hasan wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> I just compiled 2.2.5 with sound driver as a module. I have Dell XPSR
> with on-board
> Crystal Semiconductor CS4236B sound card. I am not able to configure my
> card
> properly. When I try to load the module from command line it gives me
> "resource
> busy" error after a minute of lockup. With my 2.0.36, I had tried OSS
You probably have a conflict with your printer port, or
isapnp is not initializing your soundcard.
The 2.2.5 kernel likes to use irq7 for /dev/lp0, so
make sure your bios sets the lpt port to irq7, NOT AUTO.
Then make sure your soundcard is initialized in /etc/isapnp.conf.
Did you read the CS4232 doc in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound?
You can use the modprobe commands from the commandline, but it
is easier to put the info in /etc/conf.modules.
You might want to ask around for a good set of conf.modules
entries for the CS4236B, maybe in comp.os.linux.setup
The entries should look something like:
alias char-major-14 sound
alias sound cs4232
options cs4232 io=3D0x220 irq=3D5 dma=3D1 dma16=3D5 mpu_io=3D0x330
post-install cs4232 modprobe opl3
This is just a guess. But conf.module entries like these will
autoload sound whenever you need it , if you have the kernel=20
module auto-loader enabled.
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From rthompson@motleypc.com Mon Apr 5 20:36:15 1999
From: rthompson@motleypc.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:36:15 -0700
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You're not special ;-)
I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite some time. I do
get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by and large it works
reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape ftp site. I think
your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is probably dead
on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) and maybe that's
why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be having. How
about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems? It may
be an eye-opener....something we could send of to either Netscape or to the
offending hardware manufacturers.
Rick Thompson
> Hello all,
>
> I have been following this for the last few days, and I just don't
> understand why I am so special :)
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From speng@home.com Mon Apr 5 20:39:09 1999
From: speng@home.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] IPAUTOFW for Xsecession
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:39:09 -0400
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Hi all,
I currently use IP_masquerade to let the machines in my private LAN
connect
to internet through my Linux Server running SuSE 6.0.
However I cannot use "ipautofw" to set remote site's X-session to my
local
machines (with private IP: 192.168.1.x ).
I re-compiled the kernel (2.0.36 ) with the approprate flag turnned on.
But the ipautofw
still doesn't work.
I would appreciate if anyone can tell me how to do it and where to find
the correct binary
executable for "ipautofw" for SuSE.
Thanks a lot for your help.
Best wishes,
sean
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Computer Engineering Research Group
University of Toronto
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You're not special ;-)
I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite some time. I do
get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by and large it works
reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape ftp site. I think
your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is probably dead
on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) and maybe that's
why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be having. How
about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems? It may
be an eye-opener....something we could send of to either Netscape or to the
offending hardware manufacturers.
Rick Thompson
> Hello all,
>
> I have been following this for the last few days, and I just don't
> understand why I am so special :)
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From mongr@mongrz.tzo.com Mon Apr 5 21:10:35 1999
From: mongr@mongrz.tzo.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:10:35 +0000
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Well...here is theory two:
All the programmers at Netscape use Matrox boards!
Since Benjamin and I both have Matrox boards...and neither have any problems.
:-)
However I'm now using a Riva TNT.....with no diffuculties thus far. It's not
that I'm not pushing Netscape as hard as the next guy.....I do alot of surfing
and the browser is open for hours at a time.
Rick Thompson
Ralph Clark wrote:
> Rick Thompson wrote:
>
> > You're not special ;-)
> > I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite some time. I =
do
> > get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by and large it wor=
ks
> > reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape ftp site. I think
> > your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is probably dead
> > on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) and maybe that=
's
> > why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be having. How
> > about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems?
>
> It's not the video hardware. I've had the same problems with all Communicat=
or
> 4.x using an ancient S3 5426 board, an ancient ET4000, an ATI Mach 64
> Xpert(a)Play AGP and an STB Velocity 128 AGP (Nvidia Riva). That's on Linux=
-FT,
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From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 5 21:57:38 1999
From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:57:38 +0100
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"Trevor D. Stevenson" wrote:
>=20
> Hi all,
> After the recent thread on e-Mail clients I thought I would check a
> sample of recent postings to this list to see what people actually use,
> rather than what they say they like. Here are the results:-
Hmph. You missed the one I'm using. :-)
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 5 21:59:11 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 and masquerading. Works, but...
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 23:59:11 +0200
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"Robert C. Paulsen, Jr." wrote:
> If you mean "/sbin/ipfwadm-wrapper", yes, I have that file but it
Sorry, can't tell you more about that. I've never used it. I only
knew, that it was there and what was its purpose.
But if I were you, I would copy ipchains to a safe place and rename the
wrapper script to ipfwadm and then restart and so on and see, what hapopens.
BTW, I have a manpage for this, so you should have too. There's also
an ipchains-HOWTO. If you don't have it, tell me. Perhaps it's
a good idea to have a look at these before testing.
Henning
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From ryanak@thuntek.net Mon Apr 5 22:01:05 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Strange PPP problems...
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:01:05 -0600
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Hello,
My PPP connection to the Internet works, but it is acting very strange.
The first problem always happens when using KPPP, I can connect with
KPPP, and I have it set to reconnect on disconnect. Well, it connects,
but as soon as it disconnects, pppd throws this error
"ioctl(PPPIOCSASYNCMAP): Input/output error(5)" (/var/log/messages). I
downloaded and installed XISP, and it dont connect at all, but I have
decided not to use it. My ppp-up (/etc/suseppp/scripts/ppp-up generic)=20
has always worked. But now (just started yesturday) when I try to
connect using it pppd throws this error "Serial line is looped back" or
similar. However KPPP still works fine, but only on the first dialout
(not reconnects). I have tried having yast re-write every file with no
luck. I still get the error.....
BTW, My main objective is to get my ppp-up script working again, and I
will add the "persist" and "holdoff" command in the options file and be
done with kppp.
And one more question, when the script runs it says it cant find module
"ppp-compress-24" -- should I make an alias of this and point it to
bsd_comp?
Any Help is appreciated.
Sincerely,
Ryan
Icemann
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From budr@sirinet.net Mon Apr 5 22:50:23 1999
From: budr@sirinet.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 17:50:23 -0500
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"Trevor D. Stevenson" writes:
> Newbie question: If one hasn't changed any hardware and there hasn't
> been a major change like libc5>libc6, is there any good reason to update
> kernels????.
In general I would say no. I can only think of 3 or 4 good reasons to
upgrade your kernel.
1. New hardware not supported by your present kernel.
2. New software not supported by your present kernel.
3. A security flaw in your present kernel, fixed in a newer version.
So far all of my upgrades have been driven by #3.
If none of those apply and your present kernel does what you need/want to
do, then why upgrade? The only other reason I can think of is
4. For the fun of it. :}
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From I.McMillan@BTInternet.com Mon Apr 5 23:12:39 1999
From: I.McMillan@BTInternet.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] pcmcia card services and kernel 2.2.4
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:12:39 +0100
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Michael Perry wrote:
>=20
> Hi gang-
>=20
> I just downloaded the 2.2.4 kernel and cannot seem to get pcmcia
> services working on suse 6. The documentation stuff says I need the
> version of pcmcia services which comes with suse. What do I need to do?
>=20
> I have a version of pcmcia services at the 3.0 level also that i
> downloaded.
Check you have set the PCMCIA variable in the
system confguration file.
This can be set in Yast.
Iain
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From I.McMillan@BTInternet.com Mon Apr 5 23:13:34 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] getting laptop installed with 6.0
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:13:34 +0100
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Chuck MacKinnon wrote:
>=20
> I have not been able to upgrade my laptop from 5.2.
> When pcmcia module is loaded memory_cs doesn't get
> loaded. So it cannot detect the ethernet card. If
> someone could shed some light on this I would
> appreciate it. It starts the pcmcia services just
> fine...Just can't see the card. I have searched all
> over but no luck ;)
Check you have set the PCMCIA variable in the
system confguration file.
This can be set in Yast.
Iain
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From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 6 00:13:27 1999
From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 01:13:27 +0100
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In message <m2677a4r80.fsf(a)twocups.sirinet.net>
Bud Rogers wrote:
> In general I would say no. I can only think of 3 or 4 good reasons to
> upgrade your kernel.
> If none of those apply and your present kernel does what you need/want to
> do, then why upgrade? The only other reason I can think of is
>=20
> 4. For the fun of it. :}
This reason should not be underestimated you know. :-)
But here's another: The problem in not upgrading kernels until you're forced
to, with such a wonderful OS as Linux (:-)), is that you could be using the
same kernel/distribution version for so long, that when something comes along
that means you *do* have to upgrade, you have to do a very big upgrade and
discover that lots and lots of things have changed just enough to break an
interesting amount of the software you're running.
It's fine that you don't *have* to upgrade, but I get twitchy if I start to
feel that I *can't* upgrade safely.
Hence I'm on 2.2.4 even though the masquerading/demand dialling doesn't work
as well (which is probably our fault).
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From rthompson@motleypc.com Tue Apr 6 00:53:55 1999
From: rthompson@motleypc.com
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 17:53:55 -0700
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Your results are probably skewed by us poor souls that have to use Windows
at work (myself included), and use Linux at home. I'm stuck with Outlook
here at the office because my desktop is company standard (WinNT/Office).
Just thought you might like to take it into account.
Rick Thompson
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On
> Behalf Of Trevor D. Stevenson
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 1:08 PM
> To: SuSE English list.
> Subject: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view
>
>
>
> Hi all,
> After the recent thread on e-Mail clients I thought I would check a
> sample of recent postings to this list to see what people actually use,
> rather than what they say they like. Here are the results:-
>
> Mozilla /Linux..........13 Mozilla /Win-x..........5
> Pine /Linux.......... 9 Outlook /Win-x..........5
> KMail /Linux.......... 6 Eudora /Win-x..........2
> Mutt /Linux.......... 4 Pegasus /Win-x..........1
> Xfmail /Linux.......... 3
> Ishmail /Linux.......... 1 Pine4 /Unix...........1
> WebMail /Linux.......... 1
> PMMail /Linux.......... 1 FoxMail /????...........1
>
> I am not saying that this is a fair sample nor that it is statistically
> valid but it does support a problem I had, that is.- why so many people
> are complaining ( on this list ) about Netscape >4 when I have never had
> it crash:- it obviously works ok for many people.I use SuSE 5.3//kernel
> 2.0.36//X+blackbox (wm). Running multiple copies/ cutting and pasting
> messages etc is not a problem as has been posted here :> ).
> Newbie question: If one hasn't changed any hardware and there hasn't
> been a major change like libc5>libc6, is there any good reason to update
> kernels????.
> bye Trevor.
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Tue Apr 6 01:00:11 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 and masquerading. Works, but...
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 03:00:11 +0200
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hhv wrote:
>=20
> "Robert C. Paulsen, Jr." wrote:
>=20
> > If you mean "/sbin/ipfwadm-wrapper", yes, I have that file but it
>=20
> Sorry, can't tell you more about that. I've never used it. I only
> knew, that it was there and what was its purpose.
>=20
> But if I were you, I would copy ipchains to a safe place and rename the
Oh, sorry this should say _ipfwadm_ , not ipchains.
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From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 01:01:11 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 18:01:11 -0700
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>=20
> Hence I'm on 2.2.4 even though the
> masquerading/demand dialling doesn't work
> as well (which is probably our fault).
Not sure about the dialling in part...but the
masquerading is working fine in 2.2.5
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From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 6 01:33:38 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] There's no place like GNOME
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:33:38 -0400
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Good comprehensive assessment of Gnome.
Fred
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From adcarlso@visinet.ca Tue Apr 6 01:43:33 1999
From: adcarlso@visinet.ca
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Re: R: 3D cards
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:43:33 -0400
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On 25-Mar-99 Pedro Timoteo wrote:
>=20
> Germano Rizzo wrote:
>>=20
>> >Both nVidia and 3dfx have promised "full" 3D for Linux / XFree86 in the
>> >future, but until then, I have to use Windoze for games.
>> >--
>> Are u sure that, even after this, you will change platform for games? A
>> 3D support doesn't mean that games will be ported to Linux, considered that
>> it's still not spread enough between home users, and that the 900f games
>> are built over Direct3D... I don't think that M$oft will port DirectX to L=
in
>> (I doubt it would be possible, either), nor that Electronic Arts etc. will
>> translate the code for UNIX with the perspective of selling not more than
>> 50'000 copies of a game for this platform... If you successfully use win to
>> play, what could make them suppose you want to change this situation?
>=20
> You're right. There'll (almost surely) never be a D3D for Linux, and it
> probably will never replace Win9x as a gaming platform.
> However, when the time comes when you can buy any 3D card (3dfx, nVidia,
> ATI, Matrox, etc.) and be sure that it'll be fully OpenGL accelerated in
> Linux (or in XFree86 itself), things may begin to change.
> --
But I wonder whether Linux being the development platform for the Playstation
2, will change it into becoming the defacto standard for gaming.
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From jlkreps@navix.net Tue Apr 6 01:44:59 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape & Netscape version 3.04
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 20:44:59 -0500
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Michael Perry wrote:
>=20
> On 4 Apr, W.D.McKinney wrote:
> > Try,
> >
> > =
h=
ttp://home.netscape.com/download/archive/client_index2.html>
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Dee
> >
>=20
> Most excellent!!! Thanks much.
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Are these time-limited versions?
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From chrisdunn@jamweb.net Tue Apr 6 01:48:30 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice 5 on SuSE 6.0
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 20:48:30 -0500
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Having just installed SuSE 6.0, mainly to get glibc2 availability for
StarOffice 5.0, I've just become aware of some incompatibility issues.=20
It seems that while both SuSE and StarOffice use glibc 2.0.7, the version
supplied with SuSE is different (and newer?) than the 2.0.7 supplied with
StarOffice and mandated for use with SO5.
Some additional libraries are supplied with SO5 and these do not seem to
present any problems.
However the SuSE and SO5 versions of :
libBrokenLocale-2.0.7.so, and
libpthread
are in different versions in SuSE and SO5.=20
Also the linker ld-2.0.7.so is supplied in a different version with
each programme. SO5 insist that their version of these libraries and the link=
er
should be used with SO5, but I can find no way of installing using their
libraries without tampering with things on my SuSE installation which I fear =
may
corrupt SuSE.
Has anybody successfully overcome these issues? Pointers would be greatly
appreciated.
--------------------------------------------
Chris Dunn
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From dno@blueskyweb.com Tue Apr 6 01:54:36 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] rdist
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:54:36 -0400
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When I have had problems like this on other -ux machines, the .rhosts file
in roots home directory should either have a mode of 644, or it may be more
restrictive and require a mode of 444.
Dan.
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Date: Monday, April 05, 1999 7:24 AM
Subject: [SuSE Linux] rdist
>
>Hello,
>
> I have problems with rsh and root user, you can say me that I had o
>allowed a remote access ( ROOT_LOGIN_REMOTE=3D"yes" ), I have written the
>remote hosts in /etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.equiv, and in /root/.rhosts, but
>I can=C5=BDt use rlogin, rsh, rcp, ... with root user.
>
> My problem is that I want to use rdist to maintain identical copies
>of files over two hosts, and root is the owner of these files. How can I
>use rdist if I'm root user ?
>
> Thank you
>
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 6 02:08:00 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice 5 on SuSE 6.0
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:08:00 -0400
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On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Chris Dunn wrote:
> Also the linker ld-2.0.7.so is supplied in a different version with
> each programme. SO5 insist that their version of these libraries and the li=
nker
> should be used with SO5, but I can find no way of installing using their
> libraries without tampering with things on my SuSE installation which I fea=
r may
> corrupt SuSE.
>=20
> Has anybody successfully overcome these issues? Pointers would be greatly
> appreciated.
No. And what I don't understand is, why do the StarDivision people even
bother giving you those libraries anyway? I mean, they want you to set the
library path to include their library directory -- and *first* in the path
-- therefore, if some program you want to run was compiiled for a
different libc version, it won't. What they *should* have done was write a
script which copies the current library path into a new variable, changes
it, runs the install/office-suite ; changes it back. Any flaws in my
logic? If not, try it out.
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From sinthetk@inlink.com Tue Apr 6 02:58:54 1999
From: sinthetk@inlink.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice 5 on SuSE 6.0
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:58:54 -0500
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hiya,
One does not have to install any lib files that stardivision packages
with the downloadable StarOffice 5 if you have SuSE 6.0. I installed the
version off the SuSE 6.0 cd and it worked fine, I then later ordered the
Deluxe version with the filter updates from Stardivision. I ordered it
partly because I have a connection that makes downloading 65+ megs a
pain in the bum...and partly because anyone who makes nice apps for
Linux I want to support. I never minded paying a fair price for good
software, I switched to Linux because I was tired of unstable crapware.
SOffice 5.0+filter updates works fine..no new lib files installed.
If you have 6.0, don't worry about it..those libs are for people who
have older distros.
just my 0.02 :)
laters,
> On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Chris Dunn wrote:
> > Also the linker ld-2.0.7.so is supplied in a different version with
> > each programme. SO5 insist that their version of these libraries and the =
linker
> > should be used with SO5, but I can find no way of installing using their
> > libraries without tampering with things on my SuSE installation which I f=
ear may
> > corrupt SuSE.
> >
> > Has anybody successfully overcome these issues? Pointers would be greatly
> > appreciated.
>=20
> No. And what I don't understand is, why do the StarDivision people even
> bother giving you those libraries anyway? I mean, they want you to set the
> library path to include their library directory -- and *first* in the path
> -- therefore, if some program you want to run was compiiled for a
> different libc version, it won't. What they *should* have done was write a
> script which copies the current library path into a new variable, changes
> it, runs the install/office-suite ; changes it back. Any flaws in my
> logic? If not, try it out.
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From budr@sirinet.net Tue Apr 6 03:20:43 1999
From: budr@sirinet.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:20:43 -0500
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Rachel Greenham writes:
> > 4. For the fun of it. :}
>=20
> This reason should not be underestimated you know. :-)
Quite true. Actually, that's the best reason of all. :}
>=20
> But here's another: The problem in not upgrading kernels until you're forced
> to, with such a wonderful OS as Linux (:-)), is that you could be using the
> same kernel/distribution version for so long, that when something comes alo=
ng
> that means you *do* have to upgrade, you have to do a very big upgrade and
> discover that lots and lots of things have changed just enough to break an
> interesting amount of the software you're running.
Absolutely true. And that's about where I am now. I have silt in the
bottom of /usr/local going back to Slackware 2.something. I'm starting to
get excited about glibc and 2.2.x. But I've made the decision that, rather
than rolling another layer over the ruins and trying to fix everything that
breaks, I'm gonna do a scorched earth upgrade next time. As in repartition
the drives and start from scratch. But that's not something I want to try
to do in an afternoon -- I'll have to pick a time when I have time to do it
right...
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From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 6 03:23:59 1999
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[SuSE Linux] Linux operating system makes inroads but lags behind rivals
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 23:23:59 -0400
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'Need to read all of this one...not just the title.
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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Tue Apr 6 04:57:38 1999
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
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Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux operating system makes inroads but lags behind rivals
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:57:38 -0400
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use SOAPBOX qw(:opinion)
print start_soapbox,
I really like this one 'cause it presents a challenge to the Linux
community. I really get sick of the always sunny-side up attitudes of
some Linux folks. As long as people realize that Linux has a long way to
go, and are willing to invest of themselves for the long haul, there is no
beating Linux. Right now I am only skirting around the fringes of Linux
development. My biggest contributions so far are cheer leading and code
breaking.
Must admit I don't fully understand what was said about multiprocessor
machines. I was under the impression that Linux had been adapted to run
on multiple processors. I also don't fully understand the logging
issues. Does anybody understand what this alleged shortcoming is?
To me the biggest obstacle to broad based acceptance of Linux is ease of
use. Yes the core technological growth needs of continue, but Linux is
technologically sound enough to satisfy the needs of most desktop users.
Bill has the desktop because he gave the world what they wanted, and
because of IBM's open systems architecture contribution to computing put
him in a position to "monopolize" on his advantage. Ease of use does not
stop at Dad's desktop. We SA'a like easy to use and configuration tools
as well. And when a manager can get something of a feeling that even *he*
could understand Linux if he really tried, then management will get behind
Linux. In the final analysis (the appearance of) productivity is what
matters. If it takes 45 minutes to set up an NT server to do basic
networking, and two days to figure out Linux, NT will win.
The other front that Linux need help on is hardware vendor support. Why
the heck should the vendors build the parts for BG's OSs and not for
Linux? Imagine you could go to the website of the manufacturer of your
printer and download the latest printer drivers for their product. I know
Linux is doing very well indeed without this kind of assistance, but
suppose the guys hacking the lattest module for the lattest video card
were out there hacking KDE code instead!
end_soapbox;
Steve
"Fred A. Miller" wrote:
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>
> Fred
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From mperry@basin.com Tue Apr 6 05:26:02 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] pilot-link and pilot programs
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:26:02 -0700
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I am getting a palm pilot 5 quite soon and am naturally interested in
maximizing my use by synching and moving data around with linux. In
the interests of fostering discussion and perhaps hearing from someone
who has done this, I would be quite interested in any users who may
have used pilot-link, pilotmanager, ical, or any of the other pilot
capable programs. I plan on using the pilot on my laptop primarily so
I dont have to carry that 10 pounder wherever I go :)
What I would like:
* a central application to read and write addressbooks, calendars, todo
lists (ical seems close overall since pilot-link can write ical files)
* a tool to manage synching such as what pilotmanager does. Anybody
using pilotmanager out there? How about gnome pilot? Kpilot? I have
installed and used kpilot and its slick. It does synching through a
conduit assignment and also integrates with korganizer. Ideally, I
would like one program to do it all. With my windowsce device, outlook
does it all. I must admit to it doing it quite well too.
* finally I would like an idea about how functional the various
applications are. I have to prepare our office for moving to pilots
first at the VP level. Needless to say we all use linux. Primarily
redhatted ones, caldera ones, and an ever growing population of SuSE.
I appreciate comments, urls... Anything you can think of that will help
me. I dont particularly want to standardize on kpilot/korganizer. WE
have had stability issues with kpilot not running under kde. Many of
our senior staff do not wish to run kde whatsoever. Their desktop of
choice is a windowmaker desktop with fancy themes and gtk applications
running or whatever.
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From Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net Tue Apr 6 05:37:43 1999
From: Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:37:43 -0700
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When I run Netscape under NT I routinely see it display on the status
line that it is cleaning up N cache files. I agree that it can be a
memory hog but seeing that my Linux workstation has 128MB of memory I
don't really notice this very often. I use Netscape daily as my primary
email client and web brower and I have found it to be pretty stable. The
only time I have problems is when I hit a page that loads some sort of
Java applet. Most of the time Java stuff runs fine but other times it
either crashes or at least causes the UI to hang and so I'm force to
kill it.
"Paul M. Foster" wrote:
>=20
> Theory 3:
>=20
> Memory, and lots of it. I can completely understand why someone with 256M
> would have no problems, since Netscape is a well-known memory hog. It
> would appear that no one built in graceful compensation for low memory
> situations in Netscape. I don't know, but I wonder if Netscape tries to
> keep some of its cached stuff in memory as well as on disk. My wife,
> running Win95, has similar problems and can solve them only by killing
> cache items or restarting Netscape. I've heard similar things on this
> list as well, under Linux.
>=20
> Paul M. Foster
>=20
> On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, MongrZ wrote:
>=20
> >
> > Well...here is theory two:
> > All the programmers at Netscape use Matrox boards!
> > Since Benjamin and I both have Matrox boards...and neither have any probl=
ems.
> > :-)
> >
> > However I'm now using a Riva TNT.....with no diffuculties thus far. It's=
not
> > that I'm not pushing Netscape as hard as the next guy.....I do alot of su=
rfing
> > and the browser is open for hours at a time.
> >
> > Rick Thompson
> >
> > Ralph Clark wrote:
> >
> > > Rick Thompson wrote:
> > >
> > > > You're not special ;-)
> > > > I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite some time=
. I do
> > > > get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by and large it=
works
> > > > reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape ftp site. I =
think
> > > > your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is probably =
dead
> > > > on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) and maybe =
that's
> > > > why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be having. H=
ow
> > > > about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems?
> > >
> > > It's not the video hardware. I've had the same problems with all Commun=
icator
> > > 4.x using an ancient S3 5426 board, an ancient ET4000, an ATI Mach 64
> > > Xpert(a)Play AGP and an STB Velocity 128 AGP (Nvidia Riva). That's on L=
inux-FT,
> >
>=20
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From paulf@quillandmouse.com Tue Apr 6 06:00:35 1999
From: paulf@quillandmouse.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 02:00:35 -0400
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Theory 3:
Memory, and lots of it. I can completely understand why someone with 256M
would have no problems, since Netscape is a well-known memory hog. It
would appear that no one built in graceful compensation for low memory
situations in Netscape. I don't know, but I wonder if Netscape tries to
keep some of its cached stuff in memory as well as on disk. My wife,
running Win95, has similar problems and can solve them only by killing
cache items or restarting Netscape. I've heard similar things on this
list as well, under Linux.
Paul M. Foster
On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, MongrZ wrote:
>=20
> Well...here is theory two:
> All the programmers at Netscape use Matrox boards!
> Since Benjamin and I both have Matrox boards...and neither have any problem=
s.
> :-)
>=20
> However I'm now using a Riva TNT.....with no diffuculties thus far. It's n=
ot
> that I'm not pushing Netscape as hard as the next guy.....I do alot of surf=
ing
> and the browser is open for hours at a time.
>=20
> Rick Thompson
>=20
> Ralph Clark wrote:
>=20
> > Rick Thompson wrote:
> >
> > > You're not special ;-)
> > > I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite some time. =
I do
> > > get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by and large it w=
orks
> > > reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape ftp site. I th=
ink
> > > your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is probably de=
ad
> > > on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) and maybe th=
at's
> > > why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be having. How
> > > about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems?
> >
> > It's not the video hardware. I've had the same problems with all Communic=
ator
> > 4.x using an ancient S3 5426 board, an ancient ET4000, an ATI Mach 64
> > Xpert(a)Play AGP and an STB Velocity 128 AGP (Nvidia Riva). That's on Lin=
ux-FT,
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From venrooij@casema.net Tue Apr 6 07:53:07 1999
From: venrooij@casema.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] kernel modules loading
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:53:07 +0200
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norrisd wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> Recently, I upgraded from v2.0.36 kernel to the 2.2.5 kernel. I che=
cked the prerequisites
> regarding libraries, bin utilities, linker, etc. all seemed OK.
> I grabbed the 2.2.5 tar.gz package and followed the install instruc=
tions. I had to do three
> attempts to get PPP support; dispite choosing " y " when the option=
appeared in the config
> menu sequence, before PPP support showed up in my 'messages'.
> Each time I have attempted to get sound card support and have not y=
et gotten there.
> I have looked at the HOWTO's and I found documentation in the kerne=
l sources .../Documentation/
> sound/, which told me to put
> ' alias sound sb
> options sb io=3D0x220 irq=3D5 dma=3D1
> and so forth,
> but I thought configuring the modules in the kernel config took car=
e of this /etc/modules.conf ?
> Am I wrong?=20
I am afraid so. Sometimes you have to edit conf.modules yourself. If you
do not want this, hardcode the driver into the kernel instead of
building it as a module. Then you do not have to specify options like
this in conf.modules.
>Are the configuration scripts working properly?
Yes they are... for kernel 2.0.36 that is. There simply is no way to
know beforehand what changes are going to be made in a new stable kernel
release.
Tim.
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From venrooij@casema.net Tue Apr 6 07:58:43 1999
From: venrooij@casema.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Strange PPP problems...
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:58:43 +0200
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Ryan wrote:
>=20
> And one more question, when the script runs it says it cant find module
> "ppp-compress-24" -- should I make an alias of this and point it to
> bsd_comp?
>=20
You could try defining the following aliasses in /etc/conf.modules:
alias ppp-compress-1 off
alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate
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From Stefano.Papini@intercai.etnoteam.it Tue Apr 6 08:05:52 1999
From: Stefano.Papini@intercai.etnoteam.it
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] CD Rom black out
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:05:52 +0200
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Title: CD Rom black out
Hi, got a strange problem.
After trying to install a net card, my cdrom is no more se=
en by 5.3.
It is (was) mapped on hdc, at boot I get "hdc NOT RESPONDI=
NG"
Yet the cd "sounds", when I attach my headphones, and the =
cables are connected.
the same problem under the terrible windows... any idea?=
FONT>
only a cable problem or something in the bios?
but isn't linux kernel skipping the bios?
Any help is deeply welcome!
Bye.
Stefano
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From TXDELBAE@ctrl.co.uk Tue Apr 6 08:24:48 1999
From: TXDELBAE@ctrl.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] KDE rpm's
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:24:48 +0100
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Hello,
I have had someone at work download all 85 MB of the KDE rpms from SuSE, but
I am unsure what ones to use. There are some labelled '1.1-1', '1.1pre2-0',
and some '1.1-pre2-3'.
What are all these versions for......
Thanks for your help.
Cheers
Tim Delbaere.
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From venrooij@casema.net Tue Apr 6 10:09:09 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KDE rpm's
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:09:09 +0200
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Hi there,
Use the plain "-1.1-" versions: these are based on the stable 1.1
release and are the most recent. The rpms with "pre" in their name are
so-called pre-releases.
Good luck,
Tim (yeah, that's right).
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From Johan.Olofsson@telia.com Tue Apr 6 10:18:30 1999
From: Johan.Olofsson@telia.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] drivers
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:18:30 +0200
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Looking for Drivers for my networkadapter:
Dlink DFE-530TX
been looking at the Dlink website but can't find anything :(
hope to get your help
answer privately if this has been dealt with 1000 times :)
-Johan-
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From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Tue Apr 6 10:56:29 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] XF Mail not working with WV Dial
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:56:29 +0100
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Hi
This is a good one :-)
I've got XF Mail working again and now when I dial up with Kppp it=20
works fine. However, when I dialup with WVdial I get an error=20
message that says that the mailhost doesn't exist. Same with Kmail.
Any ideas about this one ?
Thanks
Richard
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From tsteven@maptel.es Tue Apr 6 11:17:15 1999
From: tsteven@maptel.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Missed one! ( e-mail clients )
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:17:15 +0200
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In message <37091833.48C4995C(a)maptel.es>
"Trevor D. Stevenson" wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> After the recent thread on e-Mail clients I thought I would check a
>> sample of recent postings to this list to see what people actually use,
>> rather than what they say they like. Here are the results:-
> Hmph. You missed the one I'm using. :-)
Sorry Rachel :-[
Messenger-Pro/1.81//RISC-OS 3.70.........1
That better ;-}
Bye Trevor.
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From aspicht@knox-software.com Tue Apr 6 12:15:26 1999
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] drivers
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:15:26 +0200
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Hi Johan,
I've got the same card.
You have to use the via-rhine driver.
It works perfectly.
Arnaud
On 06-Apr-99 Johan wrote:
>=20
> Looking for Drivers for my networkadapter:
>=20
> Dlink DFE-530TX
>=20
> been looking at the Dlink website but can't find anything :(
>=20
> hope to get your help
>=20
> answer privately if this has been dealt with 1000 times :)
>=20
> -Johan-
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From chrisdunn@jamweb.net Tue Apr 6 12:45:02 1999
From: chrisdunn@jamweb.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice 5 on SuSE 6.0
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 07:45:02 -0500
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Benjamin,
Thanks for the input, but sorry, but this does not work for me.
Initially SO5 setup reports a heap of missing libraries and set up exits. Wh=
en
I extract the missing libraries from the SO5/glibc2 package the problem is
partially resolved. However, SO5 setup does not recognise
the existing SuSE version of the libraries libBrokenLocale and libpthread.
Setting links to the SuSES libraries as though they are the ones SO5 setup is
searching for does not help as SO5 setup refuses to recognise them.
Your reference to "the version off the SuSE cd rings an alarm bell. My SO5 is
not from the SuSE cd but from another (cd) source. Presumably the SO5 version=
on
the SuSE cd is cleansed for use with SuSE.
Now, how to get hold of a copy of that?=20
Is it worth the effort?
Chris Dunn
On 06-Apr-99 Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote:
>=20
> hiya,
>=20
>=20
> One does not have to install any lib files that stardivision packages
> with the downloadable StarOffice 5 if you have SuSE 6.0. I installed the
> version off the SuSE 6.0 cd and it worked fine, I then later ordered the
> Deluxe version with the filter updates from Stardivision. I ordered it
> partly because I have a connection that makes downloading 65+ megs a
> pain in the bum...and partly because anyone who makes nice apps for
> Linux I want to support. I never minded paying a fair price for good
> software, I switched to Linux because I was tired of unstable crapware.
> SOffice 5.0+filter updates works fine..no new lib files installed.
> If you have 6.0, don't worry about it..those libs are for people who
> have older distros.
>=20
> just my 0.02 :)
>=20
> laters,
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>> On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Chris Dunn wrote:
>> > Also the linker ld-2.0.7.so is supplied in a different version with
>> > each programme. SO5 insist that their version of these libraries and the
>> > linker
>> > should be used with SO5, but I can find no way of installing using their
>> > libraries without tampering with things on my SuSE installation which I
>> > fear may
>> > corrupt SuSE.
>> >
>> > Has anybody successfully overcome these issues? Pointers would be greatly
>> > appreciated.
>>=20
>> No. And what I don't understand is, why do the StarDivision people even
>> bother giving you those libraries anyway? I mean, they want you to set the
>> library path to include their library directory -- and *first* in the path
>> -- therefore, if some program you want to run was compiiled for a
>> different libc version, it won't. What they *should* have done was write a
>> script which copies the current library path into a new variable, changes
>> it, runs the install/office-suite ; changes it back. Any flaws in my
>> logic? If not, try it out.
>=20
> --=20
> Ben Rosenberg
> mailto:sinthetk(a)inlink.com
> " Powered by SuSE Linux "
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From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 6 12:50:41 1999
From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:50:41 +0100
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In message <370926CB.408229A3(a)mongrz.tzo.com>
MongrZ wrote:
>=20
> Well...here is theory two:
> All the programmers at Netscape use Matrox boards!
> Since Benjamin and I both have Matrox boards...and neither have any
> problems. :-)
Nope, that's not it. I have a Matrox board as well, and had no end of
problems.
--=20
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From beamanj@novaquest.com Tue Apr 6 12:55:58 1999
From: beamanj@novaquest.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 (kernel 2.0.36) and ALS200 Sound card
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 05:55:58 -0700
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Hello:
I have=20
trying to configure my ALS200 sound card with SuSE 6.0 to no avail. I have=20
tried configuring it with isapnp.conf, which sees all of the logical devices =
and=20
enables them. But after I have configured the card as a Sound Blaster=20
compatible (which I believe it is) in the kernel, it still doesn't work. =20
Then I tried the OSS that comes free with SuSE, and while it could not=20
autodetect anything, it loaded the Sound Blaster driver with no error=20
messages. The problem, however, is that even then, the card does not=20
work. It works under Win98, and I know that I got the same card to work=20
under SuSE 5.3 a while back, but I can't for the life of me, remember how, or=
=20
maybe things have changed?
PLEASE=20
HELP!
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From e.maryniak@pobox.com Tue Apr 6 12:57:30 1999
From: e.maryniak@pobox.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Eudora like e-mail programs for Linux
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:57:30 +0200
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There's a nice overview of e-mail clients (and mta's etc.) for Linux on:
http://www.xnet.com/~blatura/=
linapp4.html#mail>
If you're looking for an Eudora replacement, imho the most likely candidates
are, a/o, XFMail, XCMail, Postilion, Ishmail ($). The new and promising mailer
"Empath" is missing, but then it's still in snapshot fase:
http://without.netpedia.net/empath.html>
I haven't had any luck in running Eudora Pro 3.05 under Wine so far (SuSE 6.0=
),
and I have given up on that. I guess I'll just go the lazy way and use VMWare
(htt=
p://www.vmware.com/>) and run Eudora in a Win98 box under Linux, toget=
her
with PFE, my favorite ascii editor (http://ww=
w.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/>)
(yes, i use xemacs, too :-)
I may be very wrong here, but it's too bad that Wine hasn't advanced more,
despite the recent "joining" of Corels programmers (have they actually checked
in code to Wine yet?) and despite the admirable efforts of the Wine programme=
rs.
By running vmware i'm still going to pay the Bill, but i'm just too stuck on
Eudora, it's handy filters, split-window overview and keys have grown into my
spinal nerve over the last six years :-)
Eric
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From beamanj@novaquest.com Tue Apr 6 13:24:00 1999
From: beamanj@novaquest.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] two CD-ROM drives
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 06:24:00 -0700
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Hello:
I have=20
an EIDE ATAPI CD-ROM, and a SCSI CD-Burner/ROM. Both drives are=20
recognized, but not at the same time... How do I make it so that I can=20
access both drives at the same time? (for example, I should be able to copy a=
=20
CD, or play music on one cd, and browse on another)
Thanks.
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From beamanj@novaquest.com Tue Apr 6 14:56:33 1999
From: beamanj@novaquest.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] RedHat's sndconfig tool
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 07:56:33 -0700
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Has=20
anyone tried RedHat's sndconfig tool under SuSE 6.0? Anyone have any reasons =
why=20
this may or may not work?
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From Clifford@isa.co.uk Tue Apr 6 15:41:46 1999
From: Clifford@isa.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] RedHat's sndconfig tool
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:41:46 +0100
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I know someone who tried but couldn't get it to work. However, he sadly gave
up on SuSE and wnet back to Red Hat. :-(
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] RedHat's sndconfig tool
Has anyone tried RedHat's sndconfig tool under SuSE 6.0? Anyone have any
reasons why this may or may not work?
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From brauki@cityweb.de Tue Apr 6 15:45:35 1999
From: brauki@cityweb.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:45:35 +0200
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"Paul M. Foster" wrote:
>=20
> Theory 3:
>=20
> Memory, and lots of it. I can completely understand why someone with 256M
> would have no problems, since Netscape is a well-known memory hog. It
> would appear that no one built in graceful compensation for low memory
> situations in Netscape. I don't know, but I wonder if Netscape tries to
> keep some of its cached stuff in memory as well as on disk. My wife,
> running Win95, has similar problems and can solve them only by killing
> cache items or restarting Netscape. I've heard similar things on this
> list as well, under Linux.
>=20
I ran Netscape (4.0x) on my old 486/DX4-100, 32 MB RAM, ~54 MB swap,
VESA Local Bus, Elsa Winner 100 VL graphics (S3 Chipset, 1MB RAM)
without obvious stability trouble (apart from this mentioned memory
problem).
Though I have a Millenium II now, I realy do not trust it. Sometimes my
screen blackens for a fraction of a second and returns normal. With SuSE
5.3, my system crashed occasionally when restarting xdm/kdm (logout of
X). Though this blackening was there too, that crashing stopped
thankfully.
Juergen
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From rthompson@motleypc.com Tue Apr 6 15:48:15 1999
From: rthompson@motleypc.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 08:48:15 -0700
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What do you consider "lots" of memory? more than 32? 16?
Machine 1: Server: 233MMX/64MB Matrox Mill1 4MB ---- no problems
Machine 2: WS: 450PII/128MB Riva TNT 16MB ---- no problems
While machine 2 is most likely in your "lots" of memory category...I don't
consider 64MB to be all that much. I do some 3D modeling and rendering...so
I consider "lots" of memory to be 256+. We regularly use machines here at
work with 512MB. :-)
I still think its most likely the video chipset causing at least part of the
problem. S3, ATI, Tseng all have had wacky windows problems....I would
expect the same of any xservers on them. I've never had any problems with
the Mill...and once the latest Xfree was released with TNT support...I
haven't had any problems with it either.
Rick
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On
> Behalf Of Paul M. Foster
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 11:01 PM
> To: rthompson(a)motleypc.com
> Cc: SuSE List (English)
> Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
>
>
>
>
>
> Theory 3:
>
> Memory, and lots of it. I can completely understand why someone with 256M
> would have no problems, since Netscape is a well-known memory hog. It
> would appear that no one built in graceful compensation for low memory
> situations in Netscape. I don't know, but I wonder if Netscape tries to
> keep some of its cached stuff in memory as well as on disk. My wife,
> running Win95, has similar problems and can solve them only by killing
> cache items or restarting Netscape. I've heard similar things on this
> list as well, under Linux.
>
> Paul M. Foster
>
>
>
> On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, MongrZ wrote:
>
> >
> > Well...here is theory two:
> > All the programmers at Netscape use Matrox boards!
> > Since Benjamin and I both have Matrox boards...and neither have
> any problems.
> > :-)
> >
> > However I'm now using a Riva TNT.....with no diffuculties thus
> far. It's not
> > that I'm not pushing Netscape as hard as the next guy.....I do
> alot of surfing
> > and the browser is open for hours at a time.
> >
> > Rick Thompson
> >
> > Ralph Clark wrote:
> >
> > > Rick Thompson wrote:
> > >
> > > > You're not special ;-)
> > > > I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite
> some time. I do
> > > > get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by
> and large it works
> > > > reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape
> ftp site. I think
> > > > your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is
> probably dead
> > > > on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video)
> and maybe that's
> > > > why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be
> having. How
> > > > about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems?
> > >
> > > It's not the video hardware. I've had the same problems with
> all Communicator
> > > 4.x using an ancient S3 5426 board, an ancient ET4000, an ATI Mach 64
> > > Xpert(a)Play AGP and an STB Velocity 128 AGP (Nvidia Riva).
> That's on Linux-FT,
> >
>
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From lrivas@oxiquim.cl Tue Apr 6 16:00:23 1999
From: lrivas@oxiquim.cl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] KDE on SuSE 5.1
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:00:23 -0200
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Hi, im new on this list, and im looking for information about KDE on SuSE
5.1, Ive been searching the KDE Site, but found information only about KDE
and SuSE 5.3 or 6.0.
May i install KDE on this SuSE 5.1?
Thanks
LeoR
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From andyford@nothnbut.net Tue Apr 6 17:59:51 1999
From: andyford@nothnbut.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] two CD-ROM drives
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:59:51 -0500
Message-ID: <19990406125951.A27013@dave.ford.saint-louis.mo.us>
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On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 06:24:00AM -0700, Joseph Beaman wrote:
> Hello:
>=20
> I have an EIDE ATAPI CD-ROM, and a SCSI CD-Burner/ROM. Both drives are
> recognized, but not at the same time... How do I make it so that I can
> access both drives at the same time? (for example, I should be able to copy
> a CD, or play music on one cd, and browse on another)
>=20
> Thanks.
What exactly do you mean "not recognized"? I use two CD players, but only
one can be /dev/cdrom. To get to a second one I have to tell each particular
app to look at it if it's not the one linked to /dev/cdrom.
Say like wmcdplay -d /dev/hdd. (That is an entirely fictitious example).
does that make sense?
yours,
andy
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From ryanak@thuntek.net Tue Apr 6 20:24:39 1999
From: ryanak@thuntek.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Strange PPP problems...
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:24:39 -0600
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Tim van Venrooij wrote:
>=20
> Ryan wrote:
> >
> > And one more question, when the script runs it says it cant find module
> > "ppp-compress-24" -- should I make an alias of this and point it to
> > bsd_comp?
> >
>=20
> You could try defining the following aliasses in /etc/conf.modules:
>=20
> alias ppp-compress-1 off
> alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
> alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
> alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate
>=20
> Tim.
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I have to admit, I normally read all the docs I can, but this time I
didn't. I did read them today and have the problem fixed.
Sorry for the inconvience.
Ryan
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From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Tue Apr 6 20:41:17 1999
From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Eudora like e-mail programs for Linux
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 21:41:17 +0100
Message-ID: <199904062041.VAA31751@irwell.zetnet.co.uk>
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Eric
On 6 Apr 99, at 14:57, Eric Maryniak wrote:
> If you're looking for an Eudora replacement, imho the most likely
> candidates are, a/o, XFMail, XCMail, Postilion, Ishmail ($). The new and
> promising mailer "Empath" is missing, but then it's still in snapshot
> fase:
> http://without.netpedia.net/empath.html>
>=20
I've just downloaded and used XC Mail. Best X11 mail program I've=20
seen so far. I thought XF Mail was really good until I saw this one=20
:-) It's even found my XF Mail folders and allowed me access to=20
them.
> I haven't had any luck in running Eudora Pro 3.05 under Wine so far (SuSE
> 6.0), and I have given up on that. I guess I'll just go the lazy way and
> use VMWare (http://www.vmware.com/>) and run Eudora in a Win98 box under
> Linux, together with PFE, my favorite ascii editor
Once I've worked out the complexities of Samba 2.0 configuration=20
I'll get started on using Pegasus Mail in extended netware mode. =20
Apparently I can use mars_nwe to do this without using netware. =20
Should be interesting.
Thank very much.
Richard
Sheffield UK
0973 682181
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From reaston@stny.rr.com Tue Apr 6 20:44:53 1999
From: reaston@stny.rr.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Cable Modem Question II
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:44:53 -0400
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This is my re-post of my reply which I *think* wasn't posted due=20
to my email domain name change. If anyone has seen this reply=20
before, please notify me. It appears that the listserver=20
doesn't notify of rejected postings. Original post:
What are the policies of your cable modem ISP? Many (all?)=20
don't allow you connect multiple PCs without paying extra. The=20
issue is IP addresses. If their network sees more than one IP=20
address on your side of the modem then they a) won't like it, b)=20
may be cutting back on your QoS (quality of service) which may=20
be what's causing the b/w problem. The way to do it is with
one Linux box as a firewall/router doing IP masquerading. That=20
way the ISP only sees one IP address and one NIC. The other=20
NIC in that box would connect to your hub. Please note that=20
there are issues involved with SuSE and DHCP (which cable modem=20
systems use - at least mine does) in that at present it doesn't=20
seem to handle a DHCP client on one NIC and a fixed IP on=20
another. Some people have had luck with this, however. See=20
previous posts by Scott Walker and others with subjects=20
involving IP Masquerading and DHCP. I will forward one to you=20
that has a solution by Scott (not sure how this list feels about=20
attachments) in case you haven't been subscribed long enough.
-Bob
On 5 Apr 99, at 13:12, shango white wrote:
>=20
>=20
> I got TCI =3D)
>=20
> Ok, I first tested the modem with my computer and it has a new Linksys=20
> 10/100 card in it. It got enormous speed =3D)
>=20
> Then I did soem work put a 16 port hub on the modem, hooked up 4=20
> computers as of right now. Usually only 2 computers are asking for=20
> packets.
>=20
> Now my problem is. My computer is signaling problems. It has no problem=20
> with websites but downloads are unbearable slow. I am lucky if I reach=20
> twice the speed of a 56k. As I said simple browsing is fast.
>=20
> Now the other computers have a winbond 10/100 card in them. They have=20
> also no problem browsing. Downloading is though faster than on my=20
> machine. It still doesn't reach the speed when I ran it without hub.
>=20
> I imagine the hub puts a small speed trap in there but not to the amount=20
> I see it imagineable.
>=20
> By how much should the hub affect this or do I have a defect card in my=20
> machine. I believe TCI also takes part in the slow down as sometimes=20
> their service entirely drops out with 5-30 second gaps.
>=20
> How do I know if I have a defective network card???
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Shango
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From dan_tudor@home.ro Tue Apr 6 21:02:09 1999
From: dan_tudor@home.ro
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Printer setup
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 00:02:09 +0300
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Well, I'm well aware of the fact my problem is boring for all those who are
familiar with Linux: I can't get my printer to work. Sorry.
I've read something about the printing thing... unfortunately there isn't much
(2 HOWTO's, a small chapter in SuSE manual... and no reference at all in LDP).
As far I've understood that lp is my default printer (HP Deskjet 690C), that
lpr is the program/interface that takes care of the printing job and lpd deals
with the filters.
1. my printer port is lp1 and is (almost) working: cat test.txt > /dev/lp1
prints something, but only on one line. Can I fix this?
2. a command like lpr test.txt gives me nothing at all (not even an error
message). The /etc/printcap was configured by YaST and I just added a lp | in
front of a line to have the default printer set.
3. even though I have the package aps installed, my /etc/rc.config does not
contain anything like START_LPD=3Dyes (or no). It simply does not exist. When=
I
try to start the lpd manually in /sbin/init.d/lpd with the command ./lpd start
i get a message: starting lpd ----- failed.
Any help? Please!
Dan
PS. If you can give me a location on the net where I could learn more about t=
he
printing process (again, the resources on this subject seem to be scarce) it
would be great.
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From dan_tudor@home.ro Tue Apr 6 21:19:10 1999
From: dan_tudor@home.ro
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] HDD question got an answer. Thanks!
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 00:19:10 +0300
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Thanks to all those who answered to my question concerning the HDD who was
spinning without apparent reason. i had some check jobs for him (put there by
the installation program) in cron.daily. I just erased everything from that
directory and now everything is silent again.
However, anyone knows how could I control this from YaST?
Dan
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From reaston@stny.rr.com Tue Apr 6 21:35:25 1999
From: reaston@stny.rr.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] a bit late, but what the heck...
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:35:25 -0400
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Even Salon Magazine got in on the act:
=
http://www.salonmagazine.com/21st/feature/1999/04/01feature.html>=20
although a little more transparently.
-Bob
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From cloud9@frontier.net Tue Apr 6 21:37:40 1999
From: cloud9@frontier.net
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] kde keyboard mapping
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:37:40 -0600
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Seems like my keyboard mapping is messed up in kde. (suse6.0)
ex) when i type y it types z and so on and so on.=20
How can i fix this?
Thanks in advanced.
-=3DDan Clemens=3D-
~ cloud9(a)frontier.net ~=20
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From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Tue Apr 6 21:46:48 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] S.u.S.E. tidbit
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:46:48 -0700
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Just thought I'd share this-- in light of the not-to-recent thread re:
S.u.S.E. promotionals in NA.=20
I was in some store the other day that sells software, to include but not
limited to the alternative OS's including Linux and BeOS, BSD etc...=20
Some guy was talking to a salesman in the store, and was asking which
dist he should pick to teach to his class-- and he emphasized he wanted a
dist that was easy to install. The salesman immmediately recommended
S.u.S.E. for ease of installation, wealth of apps, and configurability. He
also mentioned that 'S.u.S.E. is really taking off' and that he is now
selling more copies of S.u.S.E. than any other distribution-- quote:
"[..]it's even outselling RedHat right now.." ( He actually seemed
somewhat bemused and surprised by this, but not unpleasantly so.)=20
I thought this was kinda cool. I don't know if this store is typical, but
I figured I'd share it given all the discussion of marketting the NA and
S.u.S.E. we have had in here. Nice to know in some cases S.u.S.E. in NA,
even if it's atypical, that S.u.S.E. is clearly the dist of choice, not
only did it hold its own with RedHat among Linux buyers and newbies-- in
this one case it seems to have clearly beaten RedHat...=20
Anyway, Please resume your regularly scheduled programming. =20
Michael=20
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From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Tue Apr 6 22:18:13 1999
From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] S.u.S.E. tidbit
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:18:13 +0100
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On 06-Apr-99 Michael Johnson wrote:
>=20
> I was in some store the other day that sells software, to include but
> not limited to the alternative OS's including Linux and BeOS, BSD
> etc...=20
> Some guy was talking to a salesman in the store, and was asking which
> dist he should pick to teach to his class-- and he emphasized he wanted
> a dist that was easy to install. The salesman immmediately recommended
> S.u.S.E. for ease of installation, wealth of apps, and configurability.
>=20
> I thought this was kinda cool. I don't know if this store is typical,
You found a software store where the salesperson discoursed INTELLIGENTLY
(i.e. knew what the customer was talking about) on Linux ????????????????
Well, I suppose the USA is a different country ...
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 6 22:24:23 1999
From: northsky@ix.netcom.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux operating system makes inroads but lags behindrivals
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:24:23 -0400
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On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote:
>=20
> 'Need to read all of this one...not just the title.
To save you the trouble of shaking your head, the article is about a
study which claimed NT was better than Linux. However, the article also
mentions that the same study said AIX was best...
------------------------------------------------
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From risch@tir.com Tue Apr 6 22:35:42 1999
From: risch@tir.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] "In a Nutshell"
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:35:42 -0400
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I apologize should I be guilty of spam, but it's in a good cause.
I picked up a copy of "Linux in a Nutshell" last week at CompUSA (not
one of my favorite computer plces, btw). The series of "Nutshell" books
seems on sale, but the $6 rebate brings them down to $10 (limit one to a
family). At $16 I thought it was not bad when I compare with the the
book store I usually frequent.
There is one caveat though. I note that though CompUSA say "with rebate"
the rebate
coupon says "purchased between MArch 27 and April 3."
My $.02.
Regards,
Bob
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From chrisdunn@jamweb.net Tue Apr 6 22:52:45 1999
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Subject: FW: Re: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice 5 on SuSE 6.0
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:52:45 -0500
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Ben,
Thanks but I think my problem is that the SO5 I have is a givewaway cd that
came with a UK magazine. That seems to be the reason it will not compile on
SuSE 6.0. Certainly you should expect the version that came on a commercial
version of SuSE 6.0 to work and I'm sure you'd rightly be prety p'd off if it
didn't.
Roy Culley has suggested downloading 5.01 which is said to be compatible with
SuSE 6.0. As a a born cheapskate, I guess I'll try that route first before
thinking of buying more cds.
Chris Dunn
on 6th April Ben Rosenberg wrote:
> The SOffice 5.0 is on the SuSE 6.0 commercial box set. You would just
> install it via yast..but all yast does is make an install dir and
> uncompress the files..you run the setup as you would from the downloaded
> version or from the cd set that you can get from stardivision. I would be
> that it is something with in the original install of SuSE that you either
> checked or did not check ..if this is a major point with you, I would
> reinstall by passing a format of you home partition..and just redoing the
> others. As I had said..it any incarnation of SO5 I have not had a problem
> with SuSE 6.0 or Deadrat 5.2, but I chose SuSE for it's admin
> capabilities. Did you run ldconfig as root to make sure all your links
> were correct?? If this does not work..mail me back and let me know what
> the output is..and I will try to find an answer for you ASAP :)
> laters,
> -----
> Ben Rosenberg
> ----------------||---------------------
> mailto:sinthetk(a)inlink.com
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Chris Dunn wrote:
>=20
> Benjamin,
>=20
> Thanks for the input, but sorry, but this does not work for me.
>=20
> Initially SO5 setup reports a heap of missing libraries and set up exits.
When
> I extract the missing libraries from the SO5/glibc2 package the problem is
> partially resolved. However, SO5 setup does not recognise
> the existing SuSE version of the libraries libBrokenLocale and libpthread.
>=20
> Setting links to the SuSES libraries as though they are the ones SO5 setup =
is
> searching for does not help as SO5 setup refuses to recognise them.
>=20
> Your reference to "the version off the SuSE cd rings an alarm bell. My SO5 =
is
> not from the SuSE cd but from another (cd) source. Presumably the SO5 versi=
on
on
> the SuSE cd is cleansed for use with SuSE.
>=20
> Now, how to get hold of a copy of that?=20
>=20
> Is it worth the effort?
>=20
> Chris Dunn
>=20
> On 06-Apr-99 Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > hiya,
> >=20
> >=20
> > One does not have to install any lib files that stardivision packag=
es
> > with the downloadable StarOffice 5 if you have SuSE 6.0. I installed the
> > version off the SuSE 6.0 cd and it worked fine, I then later ordered the
> > Deluxe version with the filter updates from Stardivision. I ordered it
> > partly because I have a connection that makes downloading 65+ megs a
> > pain in the bum...and partly because anyone who makes nice apps for
> > Linux I want to support. I never minded paying a fair price for good
> > software, I switched to Linux because I was tired of unstable crapware.
> > SOffice 5.0+filter updates works fine..no new lib files installed.
> > If you have 6.0, don't worry about it..those libs are for people who
> > have older distros.
> >=20
> > just my 0.02 :)
> >=20
> > laters,
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >> On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Chris Dunn wrote:
> >> > Also the linker ld-2.0.7.so is supplied in a different version with
> >> > each programme. SO5 insist that their version of these libraries and t=
he
> >> > linker
> >> > should be used with SO5, but I can find no way of installing using the=
ir
> >> > libraries without tampering with things on my SuSE installation which I
> >> > fear may
> >> > corrupt SuSE.
> >> >
> >> > Has anybody successfully overcome these issues? Pointers would be grea=
tly
> >> > appreciated.
> >>=20
> >> No. And what I don't understand is, why do the StarDivision people even
> >> bother giving you those libraries anyway? I mean, they want you to set t=
he
> >> library path to include their library directory -- and *first* in the pa=
th
> >> -- therefore, if some program you want to run was compiiled for a
> >> different libc version, it won't. What they *should* have done was write=
a
> >> script which copies the current library path into a new variable, changes
> >> it, runs the install/office-suite ; changes it back. Any flaws in my
> >> logic? If not, try it out.
> >=20
> > --=20
> > Ben Rosenberg
> > mailto:sinthetk(a)inlink.com
> > " Powered by SuSE Linux "
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Wed Apr 7 00:22:14 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] kde keyboard mapping
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 02:22:14 +0200
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Daniel Clemens wrote:
>=20
> Seems like my keyboard mapping is messed up in kde. (suse6.0)
> ex) when i type y it types z and so on and so on.
> How can i fix this?
For some reason you've got thhe german kb layout in kde. You can
test it with some other keys: You should have german umlauts instead
of [ ; ' and & instead of ^ and so on. So, you should check keyboard
settings in kde. Sorry, can't tell you anything about that. I don't
know anything about kde.
Henning
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From adcarlso@visinet.ca Wed Apr 7 00:41:53 1999
From: adcarlso@visinet.ca
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] To "hell" with Netscape
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:41:53 -0400
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On 04-Apr-99 Ted Harding wrote:
>=20
> On 04-Apr-99 Rachel Greenham wrote:
>>=20
>> HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them
>> all. They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine),
>> lacking in core functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape),
>> or can't even get it to work at all (Most others).
>>=20
>> Yours, in utter fury:
>>=20
>> --=20
>> Rachel
>>=20
>> P.S. The sort of fury that probably starts new OSS projects, but I
>> haven't got the time right now, there's things I'm trying to DO dammit!
>=20
> Hi Rachel,
>=20
> Your frustration understood -- nothing worse when nothing works! But have
> you tried XFMail?
>=20
> I've had irritations with some versions, but most work pretty smoothly,
> and have LOTS of functionality.
>=20
> If you need a pointer or two, get in touch.
>=20
> Ted.
>=20
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> E-Mail: (Ted Harding)
> Date: 04-Apr-99 Time: 17:46:44
> ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------
> --
Netscape under 4.08? under SuSE 5.3 was stable as far as mailto's for me. Now
under SuSE 6.0, with Netscape 4.5, I have the aforementioned mailto problems.
For me XFmail is great. I've tried Kmail as well...not too bad either.=20
Although I have got accustomed to XFmail's features.
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From deem@wdm.com Wed Apr 7 00:52:44 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] High Speed Serial PCI under Linux ?
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:52:44 -0900
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Anyone recommend a good high speed serial card to recommend for SuSE 6.0=20
and the stock kernel ?
Thanks
-Dee
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From adcarlso@visinet.ca Wed Apr 7 00:57:41 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:57:41 -0400
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On 05-Apr-99 MongrZ wrote:
>=20
> Well...here is theory two:
> All the programmers at Netscape use Matrox boards!
> Since Benjamin and I both have Matrox boards...and neither have any problem=
s.
>:-)
I have had problems with Netscape...and I am running a Matrox board. Problem
is not video related, I guess.
>=20
> However I'm now using a Riva TNT.....with no diffuculties thus far. It's n=
ot
> that I'm not pushing Netscape as hard as the next guy.....I do alot of
> surfing
> and the browser is open for hours at a time.
>=20
> Rick Thompson
>=20
> Ralph Clark wrote:
>=20
>> Rick Thompson wrote:
>>
>> > You're not special ;-)
>> > I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite some time. I
>> > do
>> > get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by and large it
>> > works
>> > reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape ftp site. I thi=
nk
>> > your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is probably dead
>> > on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) and maybe
>> > that's
>> > why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be having. How
>> > about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems?
>>
>> It's not the video hardware. I've had the same problems with all
>> Communicator
>> 4.x using an ancient S3 5426 board, an ancient ET4000, an ATI Mach 64
>> Xpert(a)Play AGP and an STB Velocity 128 AGP (Nvidia Riva). That's on
>> Linux-FT,
>=20
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From sinthetk@gothic.net Wed Apr 7 01:04:35 1999
From: sinthetk@gothic.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] S.u.S.E. tidbit
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:04:35 -0500
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"(Ted Harding)" wrote:
>=20
> On 06-Apr-99 Michael Johnson wrote:
> >
> > I was in some store the other day that sells software, to include but
> > not limited to the alternative OS's including Linux and BeOS, BSD
> > etc...
> > Some guy was talking to a salesman in the store, and was asking which
> > dist he should pick to teach to his class-- and he emphasized he wanted
> > a dist that was easy to install. The salesman immmediately recommended
> > S.u.S.E. for ease of installation, wealth of apps, and configurability.
> >
> > I thought this was kinda cool. I don't know if this store is typical,
>=20
> You found a software store where the salesperson discoursed INTELLIGENTLY
> (i.e. knew what the customer was talking about) on Linux ????????????????
>=20
> Well, I suppose the USA is a different country ...
>=20
> Ted.
>=20
Heh, don't bet on it. I use to work for this huge clone builder in St.
Louis..and one of the sales people tried to sell this guy a G200
waaaaaaaaaaaaay before it was supported..I promptly told the salesman
that if he sold this customer a $7000 server with that card in it..and
they could not run X or if they had to spend the cash to get AccelX
after figuring out that it was not supported...we would have a $7000
return on our hands and no good word o' mouth..hehheheheh.
Anyways, I am glad you found a good place to shop!
laters,
--=20
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From dlaude@execpc.com Wed Apr 7 01:45:32 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] High Speed Serial PCI under Linux ?
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:45:32 -0500
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---Reply to mail from W.D.McKinney (Dee) about [SuSE Linux] High Speed Serial=
PCI under Linux ?
>=20
> Anyone recommend a good high speed serial card to recommend for SuSE 6.0=20
> and the stock kernel ?
The RocketPort cards work well. Here's the url:
http://www.comtrol.com/sales/specs/=
rocket.htm>
Hope this is what you were looking for Dee.=20
Dana
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From deem@wdm.com Wed Apr 7 03:18:03 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re[3]: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 19:18:03 -0800
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stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote:
>=20
>=20
> I can hardly wait. The day I can wipe Netscape off my drive, is the day I =
can
> look people in the face and tell them Linux HAS a Web Browser. I used Opera
> under 95 with no problems. It's small and fast which is the best part.
>=20
As I stated before, under my system, Netscape works very nice. When 5.0
comes, it will be a small, fast and a great app.
> One option I have not heard though is StarOffice. While I do realize that =
it
> is quite a pig to load just for e-mail, it does have a built in browser. I
> personally have not tried the e-mail, but I do like the Browser. The actual=
use
> of readable fonts alone makes it a hands down winner over Netscape. Howeve=
r,
> it has been only somewhat better on the stability side. Has anyone else tr=
ied
> it??
>=20
> Steve
>=20
Yes, StarOffice works, but not near as good Netscape.
-Dee
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From stevem12@mindspring.com Wed Apr 7 03:27:24 1999
From: stevem12@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:27:24 -0400
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> We'll the good news is operasoftware will release a linux browser soon. yea
> I tried this for a while in windows and I found it to be a
> great fast littlew browser only 4mb!!=20
> The bad news is that they want money for it but hell I might actually buy
> a piece
> of software. Once you are accustomed to opera there isn't a better browser.
> L8R
> ian the sane
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> --
I can hardly wait. The day I can wipe Netscape off my drive, is the day I can
look people in the face and tell them Linux HAS a Web Browser. I used Opera
under 95 with no problems. It's small and fast which is the best part.
One option I have not heard though is StarOffice. While I do realize that it
is quite a pig to load just for e-mail, it does have a built in browser. I
personally have not tried the e-mail, but I do like the Browser. The actual u=
se
of readable fonts alone makes it a hands down winner over Netscape. However,
it has been only somewhat better on the stability side. Has anyone else tried
it??
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From stevem12@mindspring.com Wed Apr 7 03:41:47 1999
From: stevem12@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:41:47 -0400
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On 05-Apr-99 Rick Thompson wrote:
>=20
> You're not special ;-)
> I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite some time. I do
> get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by and large it works
> reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape ftp site. I think
> your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is probably dead
> on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) and maybe that's
> why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be having. How
> about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems? It may
> be an eye-opener....something we could send of to either Netscape or to the
> offending hardware manufacturers.
> Rick Thompson
>=20
I totally agree here. Although Netscape is by far the worst for me, other X
programs crash also. People talk about Linux stability, but realistcally that
is usually true when X is not being used. It's defintely an issue that will
hurt Linux in the long run if XFree86 can't become more stable and support
newer hardware. So here goes my configuration:
Kernel: 2.0.36
Video Card: Diamond Stealth 3000 3D - S3 virge VX
Server: SVGA Recommended that I dont use the S3V server.
Switched video card to an: STB Nitro 3D
Same server.
Same problem.
Steve
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From deem@wdm.com Wed Apr 7 04:15:36 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] XF Mail not working with WV Dial
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:15:36 -0800
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"Richard Ibbotson" wrote:
>=20
> Hi
>=20
> This is a good one :-)
>=20
> I've got XF Mail working again and now when I dial up with Kppp it=20
> works fine. However, when I dialup with WVdial I get an error=20
> message that says that the mailhost doesn't exist. Same with Kmail.
>=20
> Any ideas about this one ?
Well wvdial and Ishamil works just fine. Maybe you should look at
/etc/resolv.conf and /etc/wvdial.conf .
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From dlaude@execpc.com Wed Apr 7 04:29:56 1999
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To hell with Netscape - possible reas
>
> I can hardly wait. The day I can wipe Netscape off my drive, is the day I =
can
> look people in the face and tell them Linux HAS a Web Browser. I used Opera
> under 95 with no problems. It's small and fast which is the best part.
>=20
> One option I have not heard though is StarOffice. While I do realize that =
it
> is quite a pig to load just for e-mail, it does have a built in browser. I
> personally have not tried the e-mail, but I do like the Browser. The actual=
use
> of readable fonts alone makes it a hands down winner over Netscape. Howeve=
r,
> it has been only somewhat better on the stability side. Has anyone else tr=
ied
> it??
As far as Opera is concerned, I hope it is ported soon. I
personally don't mind spending a few dollars if I can have a
stable browser that supports java, etc. I could care less about
the proprietary MS browser crap. On the other hand, Netscape
has been pretty stable here, minus a glinch or two with java.
My system is based on a VX chipset, 200Mhz Intel Pentium CPU
with 96MB ram, 2 IDE hd's, (2.1 and 2.5GB) a RealTec NIC,
and a USR 56k internal fax modem. =20
Regarding StarOffice..., I installed Word Perfect 8. No
problems, hence I'm happy! I've used SOx prior to WP8 and I do
not miss the slow loading..., etc..., found in StarOffice.
My aspect is: If I actually have to choose between a commercial
vs. free application, performance wins, hands down, even if the
cost is minimal. (as in the personal edition of WP8.)
Dana
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What does Append-line for hardware parameter means? during my installation I =
was unable to boot into window98 it only booted to suse. How do you fix this =
problem. I have installed RedHat before and it was simple to do.
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From schattev@imb-jena.de Wed Apr 7 07:12:04 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Which graphics board for OpenGL applications?
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:12:04 +0200
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Hi,
if I'm going to buy a new graphics board
which shall support or atleast is expected
to support soon OpenGL in hardware, would
an
Elsa-Gloria-Synergy
be the right (and only) choice?
At least this board is listed in a SuSE
web-page where the SuSE people tell, that
they currently are adapting the mesa driver
to support hardware acceleration. Is this
board available with more than 8MB RAM?
Are there other (commercial) OpenGL
implementations available for SuSE
linux?
Thanks,
Ruben
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From ljackson@techlinks.com Wed Apr 7 07:17:04 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Apache Server Startup
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Does anyone know where Apache is configured to start from in a default
installation of SuSE 6.0? I checked /sbin/init.d but couldn't find
anything that referenced "apache start".
Thanks
lj
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From dark@pluto.szikszi.hu Wed Apr 7 07:41:03 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Apache Server Startup
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:41:03 +0200
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ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote:
>=20
> Does anyone know where Apache is configured to start from in a default
> installation of SuSE 6.0? I checked /sbin/init.d but couldn't find
> anything that referenced "apache start".
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> lj
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Well, I think if you install apache it will automatically start on the
next reboot, but if you look into the /etc/rc.d/init.d, you will find a
csript called 'httpd'. With this script you can start/stop the apache
http server.
(My English is poor, but I hope it wil "understandable" :)
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From grimmer@suse.de Wed Apr 7 08:31:55 1999
From: grimmer@suse.de
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Hi,
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Dana J. Laude wrote:
> As far as Opera is concerned, I hope it is ported soon. I
The port is already in the works. Troll Tech (the guys who made the Qt
Library) are making the port to Linux.
I've talked with the Opera Guys on CeBit. Maybe we can arrange a demo
version on future SuSE Linux releases...
Bye,
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From grimmer@suse.de Wed Apr 7 08:38:00 1999
From: grimmer@suse.de
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:38:00 +0200
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Hi,
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, yuj jonah wrote:
> What does Append-line for hardware parameter means?=20
This is a possibility to pass certain hardware parameters to the kernel
(eg. Interrupts and I/O-ports for certain drivers). It usually is not
necessary, it depends on the hardware you use.
> during my installation I was unable to boot into window98 it only
> booted to suse. How do you fix this problem. I have installed RedHat
> before and it was simple to do.
Well, you were on the right track. Create an additional boot configuration
(eg labeled "win"), which boots from your windows partition. You should
then be able to enter the desired boot configuration at the LILO promt,
which will boot the respective operating system.
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:39:40 +0200
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Hi,
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote:
> Does anyone know where Apache is configured to start from in a default
> installation of SuSE 6.0? I checked /sbin/init.d but couldn't find
> anything that referenced "apache start".
There's a variable in /etc/rc.config called "START_HTTPD". If this is set
to "yes", the init-script /sbin/init.d/apache will start the Apache
server.
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From: grimmer@suse.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: spring forward :)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:50:10 +0200
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Hi,
On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Jim Osborn wrote:
> Actually, one of my machines sprang, and the other didn't. This is the
> first time I've had Linux fail to change on DST day, so I'm very
> surprised. Both running SuSE 5.3.
>=20
> Can someone tell me where the DST change is controlled? I must have
> something different between the two machines, but nothing, I thought,
> in the clock department. FWIW, the machine that failed to spring has
> been running various Slackware installations for six years. I
> upgraded to SuSE last fall, just after the DST change. This the first
> time it hasn't changed with DST.
This is controlled via variables in /etc/rc.config:
#
# Set to "-u" if your system clock is set to GMT, otherwise "".
#
GMT=3D"-u"
#
# Timezone (e.g. MET)
# (this will set /usr/lib/zoneinfo/localtime)
#
TIMEZONE=3D"MET"
AFAIK, the spring forward depends on the selected timezone.
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From grimmer@suse.de Wed Apr 7 09:27:49 1999
From: grimmer@suse.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Which graphics board for OpenGL applications?
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:27:49 +0200
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Hi,
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Ruben Schattevoy wrote:
> if I'm going to buy a new graphics board which shall support or
> atleast is expected to support soon OpenGL in hardware, would an
>=20
> Elsa-Gloria-Synergy
>=20
> be the right (and only) choice?
Well, it depends. If you want to have hardware-accelerated OpenGL _now_,
you should consider a card based on the 3dfx Voodoo, Voodoo2 or Voodoo
Rush chipset. We are indeed working on OpenGL based on the Permedia2
chipset (which is used on the Gloria Synergy), but it is not usable for
productive use yet.
> At least this board is listed in a SuSE web-page where the SuSE people
> tell, that they currently are adapting the mesa driver to support
> hardware acceleration. Is this board available with more than 8MB RAM?
Not that I know of.
> Are there other (commercial) OpenGL implementations available for SuSE
> linux?
Metrolink also announced Hardware-OpenGL. See http://www.metrolink.com=
> for
more info.
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Hi,
On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Jim Hodgers wrote:
> Good Friday was really good to me, SuSE 6.0 arrived!!
> I loaded it on Saturday, 4 times(don't ask) but continue=20
> to get this strange problem. If I boot the system from my HD I get the
> message "Unable to open an initial console". It comes after all the SCSI
> disks are recognized and the partitions mounted. Immediately before the
> message is the step "VFS:Mounted root(ext2 filesystem) readonly". If I boot
> from the floppy made during installation it boots OK and the system is
> useable. Not that I will boot that often, but it is strange and I would
> like to fix it.
Hmm, check your LILO boot configuration. Did you really enter the correct
_root_ partition?
Bye,
LenZ
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From lrivas@oxiquim.cl Wed Apr 7 11:41:11 1999
From: lrivas@oxiquim.cl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:41:11 -0200
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Thats it!
Some guy toldme about a UNIX/LINUX version of the fxxxing MSIE4.0. Does
anyone of you have it?(he he)
or... does anyone of u will have it? (more hehe)
Opinions?
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From andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk Wed Apr 7 12:53:14 1999
From: andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Apache Server Startup
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:53:14 +0100
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-----Original Message-----
From: Timar Peter
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
Date: 07 April 1999 09:22
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Apache Server Startup
>
>ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know where Apache is configured to start from in a default
>> installation of SuSE 6.0? I checked /sbin/init.d but couldn't find
>> anything that referenced "apache start".
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> lj
>>
>> --
>
>Well, I think if you install apache it will automatically start on the
>next reboot, but if you look into the /etc/rc.d/init.d, you will find a
>csript called 'httpd'. With this script you can start/stop the apache
>http server.
>(My English is poor, but I hope it wil "understandable" :)
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Isn't it easier to just set the 'START_HTTPD' to yes in yast set-up. This
then automatically runs the SuSEconfig programme for you automatically.
Rgds
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From koen_dejonghe@yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 13:20:25 1999
From: koen_dejonghe@yahoo.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] PPP & Shiva LanRover
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 06:20:25 -0700
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Hi all,
Anybody out there who has a working chat script for a Shiva LanRover connecti=
on
?=20
Thanks.
=3D=3D=3D
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tel: +32 (0)2 712 3668=20
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From gcambria@ar.ing.unisi.it Wed Apr 7 14:41:05 1999
From: gcambria@ar.ing.unisi.it
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Subject: R: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:41:05 +0200
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-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Leonel Rivas
A: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
Data: mercoled=C3=AC 7 aprile 1999 16.25
Oggetto: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
>
>Thats it!
>Some guy toldme about a UNIX/LINUX version of the fxxxing MSIE4.0. Does
>anyone of you have it?(he he)
>or... does anyone of u will have it? (more hehe)
>Opinions?
>
>
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Of course I've it!
But it is only a pre-beta 0.009b 15&half bit: it is able to crash windoze
even if the box is running Linux. Real multitask.
Regards
NanniX
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From dan_tudor@home.ro Wed Apr 7 14:53:16 1999
From: dan_tudor@home.ro
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:53:16 +0300
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Being with Linux for quite a short time now, I heard others talking about
setting up pieces of hardware under Red Hat a lot esier than under SuSE. On t=
he
other hand, people talk about SuSE being "the complete OS". I am using SuSE 6=
.0
and indeed I have hundreds of applications on my HDD put there by the standard
installation - but I realize I don't need about maybe 600f them.=20
I was wondering if anyone could tell me why (if) is SuSE a better choice than
Red Hat? In fact what are the differences between those two leading (I guess)
Linux OS's? Of course SuSE has YaST, but also Red Hat has a System
Configuration tool which is pretty cool (so far as I've seen). Can you convin=
ce
me that I made a wise choice betting on SuSE? ... (by the way, what SuSE
initials stand for?)
Dan.
PS. By the way, I've seen programs like Matlab which is said they're made for
Linux, in parantheses added RedHat, Debian, Slackware for instance. Does this
mean there is a posibility a program made for Linux not to run on SuSE?
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From lach@lach.net Wed Apr 7 15:14:52 1999
From: lach@lach.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] porting from libc to glibc
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:14:52 -0500
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Hi,
I am looking for resources that cover issues to look for when porting an
application from libc to glibc. The application I'm porting is large!
Any urls or howtos??
thanks
lach
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From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Wed Apr 7 15:16:44 1999
From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Which graphics board for OpenGL applications?
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:16:44 -0500
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Hi,
There is a HOWTO on opengl in linux:
http://www.g=
amers.org/dEngine/xf3D/howto/3Dfx-HOWTO.html>
I have got a Diamond Viper v550 with 16M of RAM.
GL screensavers and quake work excellently in Win98 ;-)
I did not have time to try opengl in linux; however, X works quite well.
-alexm
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Ruben Schattevoy wrote:
>=20
> > if I'm going to buy a new graphics board which shall support or
> > atleast is expected to support soon OpenGL in hardware, would an
> >=20
> > Elsa-Gloria-Synergy
> >=20
> > be the right (and only) choice?
>=20
> Well, it depends. If you want to have hardware-accelerated OpenGL _now_,
> you should consider a card based on the 3dfx Voodoo, Voodoo2 or Voodoo
> Rush chipset. We are indeed working on OpenGL based on the Permedia2
> chipset (which is used on the Gloria Synergy), but it is not usable for
> productive use yet.
>=20
> > At least this board is listed in a SuSE web-page where the SuSE people
> > tell, that they currently are adapting the mesa driver to support
> > hardware acceleration. Is this board available with more than 8MB RAM?
>=20
> Not that I know of.
>=20
> > Are there other (commercial) OpenGL implementations available for SuSE
> > linux?
>=20
> Metrolink also announced Hardware-OpenGL. See http://www.metrolink.com> for
> more info.
>=20
> Bye,
>=20
> LenZ
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From Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net Wed Apr 7 16:15:05 1999
From: Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:15:05 -0700
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Leonel Rivas wrote:
>=20
> Thats it!
> Some guy toldme about a UNIX/LINUX version of the fxxxing MSIE4.0. Does
> anyone of you have it?(he he)
> or... does anyone of u will have it? (more hehe)
> Opinions?
>=20
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I had a version of IE running on my Solaris workstation at my last job.
That was more than a year ago and I haven't followed IE's development on
UNIX since then. It worked OK and I was using it to access websites that
would outright crash Netscape for Solaris.
Tony
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From ksaj@xoommail.com Wed Apr 7 16:37:00 1999
From: ksaj@xoommail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:37:00 -0700
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I think the real question would be: With all the high quality Unix=20
networking software out there, what would IE add? If it exists, I see it=20
only as yet another way Microsoft is trying to take over the entire=20
monopoly. That is the object of business, anyway.
Microsoft has always been behind the games a little when it comes to=20
Internetworking. In my opinion, it would be a huge step backward to start=20
installing Microsoft products on a highly functional Unix machine already=20
optimised for these sorts of things. It may pave the way for the types of=20
security problems that Microsoft users contend with to enter the Unix=20
world, as well.
Karsten
"Leonel Rivas" wrote:
>=20
> Thats it!
> Some guy toldme about a UNIX/LINUX version of the fxxxing MSIE4.0. Does
> anyone of you have it?(he he)
> or... does anyone of u will have it? (more hehe)
> Opinions?
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From ksaj@xoommail.com Wed Apr 7 16:45:28 1999
From: ksaj@xoommail.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:45:28 -0700
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You don't have to install everything from SuSE.
SuSE's major strength that I see, and the reason I installed SuSE over my Red=
Hat=20
Linux setup is that they are involved not only in bundling software, but also=
in=20
preparing the drivers. SuSE wrote the drivers that support my video card und=
er=20
X. I would have waited another month to get it from RedHat.
It is also nice to only need one distribution package to get all the Linux=20
software you need. You are right that you only need a certain small percenta=
ge of=20
what is there, but remember, everyone has different needs. SuSE, with its ma=
ssive=20
distribution size, caters to pretty well everyone that could ever have an int=
erest=20
in the operating system. With RedHat, you buy the regular distribution, and =
then=20
the other stuff. You may end up purchasing 3 different sets of CDs and still=
end=20
up downloading software to get what functionality you need. SuSE, having sup=
plied=20
just about everything that works under linux (a slight exaggeration, but stil=
l, 6=20
CDs of software is a hell of a lot!) means you only have to buy once.
SuSE provide a lot of drivers that don't appear anywhere else -- such as for =
my=20
video card.
RedHat's strength is that their distributions (which are rather small) come i=
n a=20
single package for several hardware platforms.... intel, Alpha, Sparc and the=
Vic=20
20. Kidding about the Vic, though, but I suspect you knew that. ;)
Laters,
Karsten Johansson
Dan Tudor wrote:
>=20
> Being with Linux for quite a short time now, I heard others talking about
> setting up pieces of hardware under Red Hat a lot esier than under SuSE. O=
n the
> other hand, people talk about SuSE being "the complete OS". I am using SuS=
E 6.0
> and indeed I have hundreds of applications on my HDD put there by the stan=
dard
> installation - but I realize I don't need about maybe 600f them.=20
> I was wondering if anyone could tell me why (if) is SuSE a better choice t=
han
> Red Hat? In fact what are the differences between those two leading (I gue=
ss)
> Linux OS's? Of course SuSE has YaST, but also Red Hat has a System
> Configuration tool which is pretty cool (so far as I've seen). Can you con=
vince
> me that I made a wise choice betting on SuSE? ... (by the way, what SuSE
> initials stand for?)
>=20
> Dan.
>=20
> PS. By the way, I've seen programs like Matlab which is said they're made =
for
> Linux, in parantheses added RedHat, Debian, Slackware for instance. Does t=
his
> mean there is a posibility a program made for Linux not to run on SuSE?
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From HKNIEF@taos.com Wed Apr 7 16:56:16 1999
From: HKNIEF@taos.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:56:16 -0700
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Can you be more specific about setting up hardware? I've used many
Linux distributions (Slackware, RedHat, TurboLinux, SuSE and Caldera)...
In fact I think the only one I haven't used is Debian. I use SuSE
almost exclusively, even though some of the other do provide some
additional/different administration tools. My point in getting and
using Linux is to toy with the operating system. I've found RedHat to
be almost restrictive in allowing you complete control of customization.
SuSE gives you everything you need, albeit some of the utilities might
be a bit obscure, but there is no limit to configuration and setup
options that you have. In my opinion, it's a much more flexible
distribution... and maybe I've been lucky, but I've not had any problems
setting up hardware devices to date. If you want just a simple
example... take this into consideration: Once you've configured X, how
hard is it to change window managers on RedHat, as opposed to SuSE? (and
we won't even get into the choices available.)
- Herman
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Tudor [SMTP:dan_tudor(a)home.ro]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 7:53 AM
> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
>=20
>=20
> Being with Linux for quite a short time now, I heard others talking
> about
> setting up pieces of hardware under Red Hat a lot esier than under
> SuSE. On the
> other hand, people talk about SuSE being "the complete OS". I am using
> SuSE 6.0
> and indeed I have hundreds of applications on my HDD put there by the
> standard
> installation - but I realize I don't need about maybe 600f them.=20
> I was wondering if anyone could tell me why (if) is SuSE a better
> choice than
> Red Hat? In fact what are the differences between those two leading (I
> guess)
> Linux OS's? Of course SuSE has YaST, but also Red Hat has a System
> Configuration tool which is pretty cool (so far as I've seen). Can you
> convince
> me that I made a wise choice betting on SuSE? ... (by the way, what
> SuSE
> initials stand for?)
>=20
> Dan.
>=20
> PS. By the way, I've seen programs like Matlab which is said they're
> made for
> Linux, in parantheses added RedHat, Debian, Slackware for instance.
> Does this
> mean there is a posibility a program made for Linux not to run on
> SuSE?
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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Wed Apr 7 17:03:46 1999
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 19:03:46 +0200
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Hi Lenz et al;
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Dana J. Laude wrote:
>=20
> > As far as Opera is concerned, I hope it is ported soon. I
>=20
> The port is already in the works. Troll Tech (the guys who made the Qt
> Library) are making the port to Linux.
>=20
> I've talked with the Opera Guys on CeBit. Maybe we can arrange a demo
> version on future SuSE Linux releases...
>=20
> Bye,
> LenZ
I'm with you guys I don't mind paying (a little :)). But my question about
Opera is will I be able to do my banking with it. Right now I have to use
NS for the encytion (sp?). That's about the only reason I use NS,
otherwise I use Lynx.=20
TIA!
J
I
M
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From raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu Wed Apr 7 17:17:15 1999
From: raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] [Q] How to determine which compiler to install?
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:17:15 -0400
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Hi,
I'm currently running version 2.2.5 of the Linux kernel (which I=20
compiled with the compiler from the egcs package provided in the=20
SuSE 6.0 CDs). Now I'm trying to build other packages from source=20
(off the net and the sources CD-ROM) and get compiler errors from=20
the c++ compiler.=20
I would like to know if I'm mixing things up. I currently have=20
installed:
egcs-990119-0
gcc-2.7.2.3-10
gpp-990119-0
libc-99.1.14-0
libgpp-990119-0
shlibs-99.1.14-0
shlibs5-99.1.20-0
Are these the appropriate packages needed to have a development=20
system?
How about the GIMP tool kit? There are packages:
glib, glibn, gtk, gtkn and the corresponding development=20
packages.
The ones with the "n" suffix seem to be more recent. Can they coexist?
The gimp was built using the older GTK package. Can it be recompiled
using the new one?
I'd like to upgrade to GTK 1.2.1. I'd appreciate comments to
my previous questions and about your experiences with GTK 1.2.1.
Thanks.
--=20
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From jbodnar@dev.tivoli.com Wed Apr 7 17:24:51 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Dell puts money in Red Hat, Linux
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:24:51 -0500
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[Another Normism ...]
How's it going, Norm?
Cut the small talk and get me a beer.
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From tschlemmer@sequeltech.com Wed Apr 7 17:51:33 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:51:33 -0700
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I see that MetroWerks has an announcement regarding their upcoming
version of CodeWarrior targeted specifically for Red Hat Linux. It's too
bad they are targeting a specific Linux distribution. =20
http://www.metrowerks.com>
Tony
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From jont@ii.uib.no Wed Apr 7 17:51:44 1999
From: jont@ii.uib.no
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 19:51:44 +0200
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On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Dan Tudor wrote:
[snip]
> Configuration tool which is pretty cool (so far as I've seen). Can you conv=
ince
> me that I made a wise choice betting on SuSE? ... (by the way, what SuSE
> initials stand for?)
According to Lenz' FAQ, "SuSE" stands for "Gesellschaft f=C3=BCr Software- und
Systementwicklung mbH" or "Company for Software- and System-Development"
You can find the FAQ here
http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/>
and I have no idea why there is no link to this FAQ from www.suse.de/e.
(But then again, where did the link to the info page about 6.0 go when
they updated that page a couple of days ago? The German page is much
better than the English one... :-( )
Well, about RH vs SuSE, I think it has a lot to do with personal taste.
I needed a Linux distribution for some PCs that were to be used by=20
people from different institutes here. At the time, SuSE 6.0 was just
released and semmed the most up to date.
Also, YaST and /etc/rc.config turned out to be great features during the
configuration, and NIS and autofs were up and running within a couple of
minutes.
All the bundled applications means a lot to me, since there are so many=20
people that will use these boxes for different purposes.
You mention RH's linuxconf, but I think (?) you can use linuxconf instead
of YaST under SuSE if you want to, but then you'll have to disable
YaST/SuSEConfig in /etc/rc.config. YaST will override the settings made by
linuxconf. You can find linuxconf here:
http://linuxconf.compiled.com/linuxconf/>
But of course SuSE isn't perfect either.
Some people find /etc/csh.cshrc too large and confusing under SuSE,
and some don't like the /etc/rc.config feature because they come from
other systems where they had to configure things manually. They like to be
in control, and they're not really sure about what the SuSE scripts
actually do.=20
Hmm. I'll try to find something that _really_ annoys me about SuSE
tomorrow. :-)
=20
Bottom line is, people will never agree on these things, so the only way
for you to find out what your favourite is, is to try them all (!) and
decide for yourself.
Just my 2 cents etc-etc...
---J.T.U.
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From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Wed Apr 7 18:03:09 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas
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Hi Steven,
I have tried it. It worked stable for me.
Joop.
I prefer netscape tough.
stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote:
> > We'll the good news is operasoftware will release a linux browser soon. y=
ea
> > I tried this for a while in windows and I found it to be a
> > great fast littlew browser only 4mb!!
> > The bad news is that they want money for it but hell I might actually buy
> > a piece
> > of software. Once you are accustomed to opera there isn't a better browse=
r.
> > L8R
> > ian the sane
> >
> > --
>
> I can hardly wait. The day I can wipe Netscape off my drive, is the day I =
can
> look people in the face and tell them Linux HAS a Web Browser. I used Opera
> under 95 with no problems. It's small and fast which is the best part.
>
> One option I have not heard though is StarOffice. While I do realize that =
it
> is quite a pig to load just for e-mail, it does have a built in browser. I
> personally have not tried the e-mail, but I do like the Browser. The actual=
use
> of readable fonts alone makes it a hands down winner over Netscape. Howeve=
r,
> it has been only somewhat better on the stability side. Has anyone else tr=
ied
> it??
>
> Steve
>
> ----------------------------------
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> Date: 06-Apr-99
> Time: 23:21:22
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From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Wed Apr 7 18:10:30 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:10:30 +0200
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I agree with Karsten.
Look for instance what Microsoft did with Apple. They made out of office 98 an
important application for Mac OS. Then they told Apple if the don't make IE
their preferred browser they won't support Office 98 anymore.
I think it's best and most safe to use public domain and shareware product for
Linux if possible. And certainly don't support the MS monopoly at this time.
Joop.
Karsten Johansson wrote:
> I think the real question would be: With all the high quality Unix
> networking software out there, what would IE add? If it exists, I see it
> only as yet another way Microsoft is trying to take over the entire
> monopoly. That is the object of business, anyway.
>
> Microsoft has always been behind the games a little when it comes to
> Internetworking. In my opinion, it would be a huge step backward to start
> installing Microsoft products on a highly functional Unix machine already
> optimised for these sorts of things. It may pave the way for the types of
> security problems that Microsoft users contend with to enter the Unix
> world, as well.
>
> Karsten
>
> "Leonel Rivas" wrote:
> >
> > Thats it!
> > Some guy toldme about a UNIX/LINUX version of the fxxxing MSIE4.0. Does
> > anyone of you have it?(he he)
> > or... does anyone of u will have it? (more hehe)
> > Opinions?
>
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From chjo@tripnet.se Wed Apr 7 18:23:30 1999
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:23:30 +0200
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Karsten Johansson wrote:
>=20
> I think the real question would be: With all the high quality Unix
> networking software out there, what would IE add? If it exists, I see it
> only as yet another way Microsoft is trying to take over the entire
> monopoly. That is the object of business, anyway.
>=20
> Microsoft has always been behind the games a little when it comes to
> Internetworking. In my opinion, it would be a huge step backward to start
> installing Microsoft products on a highly functional Unix machine already
> optimised for these sorts of things. It may pave the way for the types of
> security problems that Microsoft users contend with to enter the Unix
> world, as well.
>=20
> Karsten
=20
Oh, gee! I didn't think it was true, but unfortunately I verified it by
visiting Micosoft's site. At
http://www.microsof=
t.com/windows/ie/download/unix.htm> you can go and get
it. I won't, that's for sure.
I fear that MS-Linux is one step closer...
Bye
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From paspartu@uni.net Wed Apr 7 18:33:23 1999
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:33:23 +0200
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I am looking for an algorithm which basically has to solve this problem:
Given two floating-point numbers it has to generate a list of numbers whose t=
he
last digit has an increment of 1, 2 or 5. For example, if I give
xmin=3D3.141592 xmax=3D5.003
I will get
3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.4 4.6 4.8 5.0 5.2=20
If I give
xmin=3D-3.0308 xmax=3D-2.964
I will get
-3.03 -3.02 -3.01 -3.00 -2.99 -2.98 -2.97 -2.96
I had a look at dejanews but I couldn't find any answer.
Any suggestion on how to solve this problem or where I can search for the
algorithm?
Ah, the algorithms is for building axis with tick marks.
TIA
Maurizio
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I have forgotten my root password, can I use the=20
boot disk to recover ?
Ying
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>I agree with Karsten.
>
>Look for instance what Microsoft did with Apple. They made out of office 98 =
an
>important application for Mac OS. Then they told Apple if the don't make IE
>their preferred browser they won't support Office 98 anymore.
>
>I think it's best and most safe to use public domain and shareware product f=
or
>Linux if possible. And certainly don't support the MS monopoly at this time.
>
The MS Office/ Apple question is (from my perspective) a bit deeper than
you describe.
For one thing, the decision to do IE as the default browser predates the
release of Office 98.
Office (more specifically Word and Excel) were made important applications
on the Macintosh (at least in part) by distributing copies of Office (Word
5 and Excel) for free in the early 1990's. MS gave everyone at the LA Mac
User Group meeting a free copy of Office (~$395 at the time ; aprox 800
people at the meeting) and I know that this was not the only user group
that got this special promotion. They effectively dumped this product into
the Mac world by making it very inexpensive (even if you did pay something
for it)
To their credit, Word 5.1 was a very good word processor. The problem is
not with the quality of Word 5.1, but the effect of their 'dumping' product
into the market. The landscape for word processors and spreadsheets dried
up so that Word Perfect, Nisus, Write Now and others had no market to sell
to. Each of those programs had advantages over Word, and to this day, Nisus
is a very powerful word processor with no market.
After MS killed the market for office products by dumping Word 5.1 on the
world, the came out with Word 6 which was almost completely unusable. I
find it hard to believe that software that bad could be released. Of
course, by this time there were no other alternatives on the Mac so to get
office applications, you had to move to Windows, where the full suite of
Office products works just fine thank you.
Now we are at Office 98 which is not bad and in many respects very good.
That does not mitigate the fact that the market is dead.
I am concerned that any OS that has MS support in the way of applications
is vulnerable to this sort of market-cide.
The evolution of IE is a similar story. (Even with the mistakes of
netscape, IE was no competition until version 4 ... and any other product
that couldn't compete until the fourth generation would never have gained
any market share).
When Microsoft has killed all credible browser alternatives on a platform,
they will make your only option to move to Windows to use their browser.
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:56:04 -0700
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
>
>Being with Linux for quite a short time now, I heard others talking about
>setting up pieces of hardware under Red Hat a lot esier than under SuSE. On
the
>other hand, people talk about SuSE being "the complete OS". I am using SuSE
6.0
>and indeed I have hundreds of applications on my HDD put there by the
standard
>installation - but I realize I don't need about maybe 600f them.
>I was wondering if anyone could tell me why (if) is SuSE a better choice
than
>Red Hat? In fact what are the differences between those two leading (I
guess)
>Linux OS's? Of course SuSE has YaST, but also Red Hat has a System
>Configuration tool which is pretty cool (so far as I've seen). Can you
convince
>me that I made a wise choice betting on SuSE? ... (by the way, what SuSE
>initials stand for?)
>
>Dan.
I tend to do (In any distribution) a minimum install and the start
adding as I need things. (I have a very complete setup on my laptop taking
<400 megs where it would have taken >1G if I had blindly followed SuSE
packaging)
SuSE has YAST. SuSE has more support for xservers build in from the CD
(GLINT!) (Comparing SuSE 6.0 vs RH 5.2). RH is a market leader =3D> more books
use RH configs than any other distribution. Slackware also has a good series
for it that ships with it.
I really like the package installer/upgrader for SuSE.
>
>PS. By the way, I've seen programs like Matlab which is said they're made
for
>Linux, in parantheses added RedHat, Debian, Slackware for instance. Does
this
>mean there is a posibility a program made for Linux not to run on SuSE?
>--
They should all work with SuSE you might need to download extra
libraries. I consider SuSE one of the best distributions. Red Hat should be
thanked for the concept of RPMs though.
Hajo
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:05:45 -0500
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tschlemmer(a)sequeltech.com writes:
>I see that MetroWerks has an announcement regarding their upcoming
>version of CodeWarrior targeted specifically for Red Hat Linux. It's too
>bad they are targeting a specific Linux distribution. =20
This is getting annoying it's good that linux is good support but I don't
like it when they favor one
distro over another. Just make a bloody linux port and let all linux
distro's pick it up. I don't like
the RH tactics very much and don't care to use their distro again it's not
that good.
Ian
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From Andreas.Hupfau@linuxatwork.at Wed Apr 7 19:24:48 1999
From: Andreas.Hupfau@linuxatwork.at
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Root password
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 21:24:48 +0200
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On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Y. Hum wrote:
> I have forgotten my root password, can I use the=20
> boot disk to recover ?
>=20
try it :)
ok .. better answer : yes it works just start a rescue system, mount your
partition containing /etc and edit the passwd file to erase the password
for root ...
But be sure that it's really YOUR OWN machine ! :)
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From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Wed Apr 7 19:32:47 1999
From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:32:47 -0700
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Well we haven't had a SuSE vs. Red Hat thread in a while, so in keeping
with SuSE list tradition and against my better judgement....here goes.
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Jon Trygve Utne wrote:
> Well, about RH vs SuSE, I think it has a lot to do with personal taste.
I tend to agree. It's a matter of personal choice--- but also personal
need. All distributions _aren't_ alike, so you should research or try each
one and then make an informed decision. Needless to say ( though maybe not
so needless to say ) choosing one dist over another doesn't imply
superiority of a particular dist. It just means this dist was the one best
seemed able to satisfy what that user wanted in a dist at that time. I
also think if we qualify it with "Red Hat is strong in this area..." or
"S.u.S.E. is strong in this area.." as opposed to inflammatory crap
comparisons it's much more rational and less inflammatory than
oversimplifying things with lump statements of who's dist is the best.
With all due respect it can be sort of a pissing contest which
accomplishes nothing in the end except get people into arguments and
flamewars sometimes.
> All the bundled applications means a lot to me, since there are so many=20
> people that will use these boxes for different purposes.
Yes, for me as well, size was a factor. I simply can't and won't go online
to download all these different programs except if I want to or have to.
The size of S.u.S.E. in and of itself makes it more 'application
comprehensive' out of the box than any of the others I've seen. I read on
RH one day some guy saying that 'S.u.S.E. is for users who are too lazy
or dumb to just go to the ftp site and download the files'--- well, it's
not laziness or stupidity, I just don't really like having to do all that
when I have a dist here that saves me the time so I can spend time doing
other things like coding, working on other projects, or just having fun
with my system. Also when you think that some people outside of NA are on
hourly charges in respect to their connections and that they 'pay as they
go' in terms of internet time, I imagine that not having to download all
these different program from some online 'archive' winds up saving many
S.u.S.E. users in other places where the internet is not so cheap a lot of
dough. Since S.u.S.E. originated in Europe I imagine they are aware of
this and that might be part of the reason they have so much software on
their CDS. It saves their users time, money, and aggravation. Star Office
for instance is huge. Can you imagine being on some slow modem connection
paying by the hour or whatever downloading that thing?=20
=20
> other systems where they had to configure things manually. They like to be
> in control, and they're not really sure about what the SuSE scripts
> actually do.=20
If people want to configure things on their own they can turn off the
'extras' of YaST. YaST really pared down won't even touch your
configuration files. I still do sendmail and everything else by hand on
most machines I install S.u.S.E. on with no interference from YaST. People
should look at some of the settings and just turn off the features they
don't like. Being a long familiar of that dist Slakware I rather enjoy not
having my files touched by alot of setup tools be it YaST, linuxconf, or
anything else, but that is due to personal preference and not due to the
issues of YaST. Also many of us have several machines and YaST makes it
easier to get a working configuration up quickly so that you can come back
later as time allows and tweak, turn off, reset, etc. In this sense I see
the pros and cons of YaST and like it. Especially the option to turn off
most of its features when it suits me. :-)
> Hmm. I'll try to find something that _really_ annoys me about SuSE
> tomorrow. :-)
Well I won't say I'm annoyed but a few things:=20
I don't like the way the American website isn't given the attention I feel
befits one of the best software products available. I think it needs to be
more detailed and more informative and up-to-date. Many accounts say the
German site is much better but I don't speak German.=20
Most of the time the packages are current. Every now and then there are
those that are older than I'd like, but this is understandable when you
look at the number of packages S.u.S.E. ships with. I would prefer for
instance that S.u.S.E. shipped with more recent sendmail ( 8.9.3 is what I
am using at this time, but I built it from sources ) than the 8.8* it
ships with now. There is also occasionally an odd dependency here and
there that I don't think is appropriate.=20
=20
I really think the best way to find out what the 'annoyances' are is to
focus on the needs of those with no Unix, Linux, or computing
experience-- for the rest of us, we can solve our own problems as that
is one of the first things you learn to do. Ultimately this is probably
not a S.u.S.E. thing alone, though, but a Linux thing. Reality: Linux
needs to be more user friendly if it really wants to hit the main stream.
What seems user friendly to most of the people on this list will seem like
something from Mars to a total newbie. Isapnp for instance to many Mac
users or Windows users might seem like a very foreign or tedious concept
for setting up PnP devices. To a new user just learning these things can
turn the hair white. I think there needs to be a lot more automation of
those things where people tend to have problems where they can set things
up first so that you have a realistic working system without them needing
to go through a ton of 'linux lessons' on the internet. I should add that
I'm not complaining and have no problems with Linux, but I could see how a
new user might go 'wtf?!?!' when they look at some of the things they
might have to go through depending on their experience in something so
simple as setting up a PnP modem or a ppp connection. I can't emphasize
this point enough, because we need to see 'how the other half lives' on
this issue. Too often there is this Linux tendency ( inherited from Unix )
to just dismiss people as idiots because they don't know or have a hard
time getting their system to work and in the long run this is bad for
Linux and counterproductive. I have been guilty of this on more times than
I like to count. When I hear people saying "It took me 6 monts to set up
my ppp connection." my first thought used to be "What a f---king moron
this guy must be!!". Recently I have matured abit and learned to put off
the pleasurable enjoyment of feeling intellectually superior to those I
used to view as 'idiots' and 'hopeless lamers' in light of seeing the big
picture-- which is the promotion of Linux and other operating genres
of this kind. I think the next 2 years or so of development will tell us
a lot about where this thing is going-- or whether we'll still be stuck
with the 'eccentric hacker's toy' image that has, for me anyway, gotten
'a bit old'. The doorway is 'user friendliness'.=20
> Bottom line is, people will never agree on these things, so the only way
> for you to find out what your favourite is, is to try them all (!) and
> decide for yourself.
In the end once you get used to Linux-- you can customize ANY dists you
use. Most of the main issues affect new users more than those who've been
using Linux for a while or that came to Linux from some Unix or Unix like
environment. The question seems to be to me, not a question of which
dist is the best but a question of which dist gives you the most bang for
your buck RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX. For me that distribution clearly happens
to be S.u.S.E. Linux for its efficiency, wealth of applications, excellent
user manual, contributions to the Linux community ( the other dists make
good contribs as well ) , and outstanding overall quality and
professionalism. Until I see a dist that can clearly outshine S.u.S.E. in
the areas that I, Joe Linux User, care about I won't even consider another
Linux suite.
=20
> Just my 2 cents etc-etc...
More like 10 cents.=20
P.S. S.u.S.E. Linux should be SuSE Linux now, I guess, but 'you know what
I mean'.=20
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From djb@redhat.com Wed Apr 7 19:45:37 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:45:37 -0400
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> SuSE's major strength that I see, and the reason I installed SuSE over my R=
edHat=20
> Linux setup is that they are involved not only in bundling software, but al=
so in=20
> preparing the drivers. SuSE wrote the drivers that support my video card u=
nder=20
> X. I would have waited another month to get it from RedHat.
The converse can also be true, depending on your video card, though. We had
NeoMagic drivers available before anyone else did, for example.
SuSE probably has better support for European ISDN devices as well. I can't
think of anything else where there should be a significant difference as=20
far as device drivers, though.
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From: imm@KidsCare.Net
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Subject: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:46:29 -0500
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MAC
I'd love to run linux on a G3. I wish there was a Mac version of SuSE.
Love Linux
Like Mac
Loath Windows any and all versions.
lmg(a)webfarm.com writes:
>
>>I agree with Karsten.
>>
>>Look for instance what Microsoft did with Apple. They made out of office
>98 an
>>important application for Mac OS. Then they told Apple if the don't make
>IE
>>their preferred browser they won't support Office 98 anymore.
>>
>>I think it's best and most safe to use public domain and shareware
>product for
>>Linux if possible. And certainly don't support the MS monopoly at this
>time.
>>
>
>The MS Office/ Apple question is (from my perspective) a bit deeper than
>you describe.
>For one thing, the decision to do IE as the default browser predates the
>release of Office 98.
>Office (more specifically Word and Excel) were made important applications
>on the Macintosh (at least in part) by distributing copies of Office (Word
>5 and Excel) for free in the early 1990's. MS gave everyone at the LA Mac
>User Group meeting a free copy of Office (~$395 at the time ; aprox 800
>people at the meeting) and I know that this was not the only user group
>that got this special promotion. They effectively dumped this product into
>the Mac world by making it very inexpensive (even if you did pay something
>for it)
>To their credit, Word 5.1 was a very good word processor. The problem is
>not with the quality of Word 5.1, but the effect of their 'dumping'
>product
>into the market. The landscape for word processors and spreadsheets dried
>up so that Word Perfect, Nisus, Write Now and others had no market to sell
>to. Each of those programs had advantages over Word, and to this day,
>Nisus
>is a very powerful word processor with no market.
>After MS killed the market for office products by dumping Word 5.1 on the
>world, the came out with Word 6 which was almost completely unusable. I
>find it hard to believe that software that bad could be released. Of
>course, by this time there were no other alternatives on the Mac so to get
>office applications, you had to move to Windows, where the full suite of
>Office products works just fine thank you.
>
>Now we are at Office 98 which is not bad and in many respects very good.
>That does not mitigate the fact that the market is dead.
>I am concerned that any OS that has MS support in the way of applications
>is vulnerable to this sort of market-cide.
>The evolution of IE is a similar story. (Even with the mistakes of
>netscape, IE was no competition until version 4 ... and any other product
>that couldn't compete until the fourth generation would never have gained
>any market share).
>When Microsoft has killed all credible browser alternatives on a platform,
>they will make your only option to move to Windows to use their browser.
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:48:36 -0400
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> This is getting annoying it's good that linux is good support but I don't
> like it when they favor one
> distro over another. Just make a bloody linux port and let all linux
> distro's pick it up. I don't like
> the RH tactics very much and don't care to use their distro again it's not
> that good.
Opinions on good or bad aside, Red Hat doesn't use "tactics" to get companies
to port to "Red Hat Linux". We don't sign exclusives or anything like that,
nor do we try to sell them on doing it "Red Hat only." That's a decision
companies have made on their own without help from us.
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From raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu Wed Apr 7 19:52:52 1999
From: raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] One last review of things ppp, wvdial
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:52:52 -0400
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islandwolf wrote:
> 1) i removed the lock from /ppp/options
> 2) i have the nameserver and the name of the isp in resolv.config
> 3) wvdial has the appropriate info
> 4) suseppp has the appropriate info
> 5) kppp has the appropriate info
>=20
> I am connecting; the pppd daemon seems to drop dead; i cannot get a
> browser or a mailer to realize that i am, in fact, connected to the
> beloved remote host. And then there's the small matter of how to get
> lynx up in the terminal whilst wvdial is running...
>=20
> Could somebody please tell me what in hell i might have
> overlooked/screwed up/ or otherwise mishandled? Besides my patience...
If your connection dies, then maybe you phone line is to noisy.
I use kppp without problems. Here are some tips: as root, run xlogmaster
(to=20
look at the system log, alternatively, you can run 'tail -f
/var/log/messages' in
a separate terminal), open a terminal, start kppp.
1) Start your connection, see the output in the log.
2) Wait for the connection to finish and pppd to start. Run 'ifconfig'
in your
terminal, see if you have a 'ppp0' entry with IPs and other info. If
ifconfig
does not show a ppp0 entry, then your pppd didn't start right. You
should=20
have received an IP address, look in the log.
3) If ifconfig gives a ppp0 entry, then type 'route' in your terminal.
Make=20
sure that the 'default' destination is set up for the remote IP that you
got. See the log. If your route table is wrong then your netscape client
won't know that you are networked.
Why don't you post the output of ifconfig and route, that may be
helpful.
If (2) or (3) fails then your kppp configuration may be wrong. Enter the
setup
panels and edit your account. In the IP tab, make sure you have "Dynamic
IP
Address" checked. Add DNS entries and check "Disable existing ...". In
the
Gateway tab check "Default Gateway" and "Assign the Default Route ...".
Good luck.
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From stevep@bash.linux-shell.net Wed Apr 7 19:58:49 1999
From: stevep@bash.linux-shell.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:58:49 -0400
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On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Tina wrote:
>=20
> Karsten Johansson wrote:
> >=20
> > I think the real question would be: With all the high quality Unix
> > networking software out there, what would IE add? If it exists, I see it
> > only as yet another way Microsoft is trying to take over the entire
> > monopoly. That is the object of business, anyway.
[ ... ]
> >=20
> > Karsten
> =20
> Oh, gee! I didn't think it was true, but unfortunately I verified it by
> visiting Micosoft's site. At
> http://www.micr=
osoft.com/windows/ie/download/unix.htm> you can go and get
> it. I won't, that's for sure.
> I fear that MS-Linux is one step closer...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think you are right. (Unfortunately!)
Some sort of "MS-Linux" would be successful for the same reasons Win9x is
successful. Namely, brand name recognition.=20
/ramble on
I'm no cook, (programmer), but here's a possible Redmond recipe for MS
beer (linux):
1. Drain a large vat of Win98 jug wine,
2. pour in one linux kernel,
3. sprinkle in some redhat, SuSE, Debian, Caldera utilities,
4. beat mixture on high until the standard dot files are unrecognizable,
5. mix in a propriety gui-frontend to the dot files,
6. season with IE, Exchange, and other innovative MS crap,
7. Boil, reduce heat, add MS-yeast and ferment until mixture fills entire
vat, adding water if needed to swell volume to 10 times normal,
8. start marketing campaign, spending $billions promoting "Microsoft
invented the internet, and now linux!"
9. drain vat into 2 liter plastic jugs and sell to the MS faithful as
Redmond champagne, at $189 each, and $89 for refills.=20
10. watch the cash registers fill.=20
Now you got something that no self respecting Penguin would dip his soiled
back flippers in.=20
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From jerdfelt@suse.com Wed Apr 7 20:32:52 1999
From: jerdfelt@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] [Off Topic]: For programmers
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:32:52 -0700
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On Wed, Apr 07, 1999, Maurizio Firmani wrote:
>=20
> I am looking for an algorithm which basically has to solve this problem:
> Given two floating-point numbers it has to generate a list of numbers whose=
the
> last digit has an increment of 1, 2 or 5. For example, if I give
> xmin=3D3.141592 xmax=3D5.003
> I will get
> 3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.4 4.6 4.8 5.0 5.2=20
> If I give
> xmin=3D-3.0308 xmax=3D-2.964
> I will get
> -3.03 -3.02 -3.01 -3.00 -2.99 -2.98 -2.97 -2.96
>=20
> I had a look at dejanews but I couldn't find any answer.
>=20
> Any suggestion on how to solve this problem or where I can search for the
> algorithm?
> Ah, the algorithms is for building axis with tick marks.
Heh, talk about a bit off topic. Anyway, I'm up for a quick challenge:
McVeigh:~% ./foo =20
3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.4 4.6 4.8 5.0 5.2=20
Attached is the code (all 16 lines)
JE
#include
#include
#include
int main(void)
{
float f;
float min =3D 3.141592, max =3D 5.003;
/* float min =3D -3.0308, max =3D -2.964; */
for(f =3D min - fmod(min, 0.2); f < (max + 0.2); f +=3D 0.2)=20
printf("0.0 ", f);
printf("\n");
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From dizzy73@connix.com Wed Apr 7 20:37:16 1999
From: dizzy73@connix.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] One last review of things ppp, wvdial
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:37:16 -0400
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Hi Ill try and give my 2cts here...
islandwolf wrote:
> okay -
>
> I have been using SuSE for a while.At first, i couldn't get online
> because i had a dreaded winmodem. I have followed advice to edit the
> following files:
> 1) i removed the lock from /ppp/options
> 2) i have the nameserver and the name of the isp in resolv.config
> 3) wvdial has the appropriate info
> 4) suseppp has the appropriate info
> 5) kppp has the appropriate info
Ok... here your talking about using *3* different dialup methods. I would
suggest to start with 1
and the easiest is wvdial... so - lets get you up and connecting with that
couple of ideas
you can use wvdial from anywhere iow you dont need to screw around with
kppp
If you're in K open an xterm and run wvdial from it
(once your up and running... and feeling adventerous then mess with
suseppp)
using wvdial /etc/ppp has lock
afaik only kpp dosnt like the lock in /etc/ppp
did you run wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf? and edit the that file by adding
your dialup info and uncommenting (removing the ; semicolon? then you
just type wvdial -thats it-
to close use ctrl c
My page has the complete wvdial readme and instructions for suse users also
my scripts for suseppp but Id get wvdial going first
>
>
> I am connecting; the pppd daemon seems to drop dead; i cannot get a
> browser or a mailer to realize that i am, in fact, connected to the
> beloved remote host. And then there's the small matter of how to get
> lynx up in the terminal whilst wvdial is running...
for lynx its /usr/bin/lynx
>
>
> Could somebody please tell me what in hell i might have
> overlooked/screwed up/ or otherwise mishandled? Besides my patience...
Hey, I feel your pain Ive been there!
if you dont resolve this, mail me off the list and I'll try and help
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From hmf@softhome.net Wed Apr 7 21:24:58 1999
From: hmf@softhome.net
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:24:58 -0500
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hey all
I'm in the process of downloading the 2.2.5 kernal from the suse ftp site. I=
tried to install 2.2.3 with no success. =20
Guess I don't know enough about what I'm doing. Anyway, the file is pretty b=
ig, so i'm assuming its not a patch but=20
the whole thing.
I don't suppose anyone feels like walking me through this, do they?
thanks
-tf
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From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Wed Apr 7 21:59:15 1999
From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:59:15 +0100
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om>
Karsten Johansson wrote:
>=20
> I think the real question would be: With all the high quality Unix=20
> networking software out there, what would IE add?
Well, I for one would feel happier knowing there was more than one
well-featured browser for Linux. After all, it's not Windows; we don't *have*
to use it, but hey, what if it's better? :-) Let Netscape feel that their
Linux constituency is under threat, maybe they'll improve their product.
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From lmg@webfarm.com Wed Apr 7 22:16:29 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:16:29 -0500
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Well as long as we have a motivated and diverse audience (Hello Mr Barnes)
I'd like to take a moment on the soap-box for a mid afternoon ramble...
First of all, I'd like to give great thanks for those who have developed
the distributions of Linux to the level where it is today. Thank you all
most sincerely.
Linux is straddling what may be called (for lack of a real name) the
existing economy and a new economy. Companies like SuSE and RedHat and all
the rest must exist as businesses in the existing economy, yet Linux
itself is a catalyst for a new economy where the value (and product
differentiation) is pushed to a higher level.
It may not be immediately clear in the day to day business grind, but
applications that run on Linux (as opposed to those that run on RedHat or
SuSE or Debian or Slackware ....) is good for all companies and
applications that run only on one distribution has the net effect of
diminishing the viability of Linux as a platform.
RedHat alone does not have the credibility or impact of RedHat in the
context of the Linux community. The same is true of SuSE and all of the
distributions.
RedHat would not lose if an application were ported to Linux instead of
RedHat Linux. I believe the loss to the Linux community when applications
are targeted at a particular distribution will hurt all distributions. (To
be clear, I'm talking about applications that are tied in some fundamental
way to a distribution ... not just file layout or library version or other
core capabilities)
At the risk of gross understatement, we need to understand that reconciling
the 'gift economy' aspects of the 'free software' world with the need to
stay in business is not easy. It is up to us as a Linux community to hold
distributions and developers to the high levels of integrity, quality and
openness that have created this amazing environment. It is also our
continued responsibility to appreciate the work that is done by
contributing code, contributing support on lists, paying for products and
all of the other ways that have grown Linux into one of the few things in
the computer world that succeed on merit and quality as opposed to press
releases.
>> This is getting annoying it's good that linux is good support but I don't
>> like it when they favor one
>> distro over another. Just make a bloody linux port and let all linux
>> distro's pick it up. I don't like
>> the RH tactics very much and don't care to use their distro again it's not
>> that good.
>
>Opinions on good or bad aside, Red Hat doesn't use "tactics" to get companies
>to port to "Red Hat Linux". We don't sign exclusives or anything like that,
>nor do we try to sell them on doing it "Red Hat only." That's a decision
>companies have made on their own without help from us.
>
>
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From m.lusetti@mo.nettuno.it Wed Apr 7 22:34:19 1999
From: m.lusetti@mo.nettuno.it
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 00:34:19 +0200
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I wish to know if SuSE 6.0 (and the coming 6.1) have the right tools for maki=
ng software raid (level 0 or level 4/5), my thought was no.
And i wish to know if on a busy system (system load never under 85%) the soft=
ware raid take benefit or not.
Any exeperience with it !?
A little bit off topic but... anyone of you know the price of ICP vortex home=
raid controller ?
--=20
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 8 00:26:52 1999
From: northsky@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: Re: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:26:52 -0400
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On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Ian M. Moore wrote:
>=20
>=20
> MAC
> I'd love to run linux on a G3. I wish there was a Mac version of SuSE.
> Love Linux
> Like Mac
> Loath Windows any and all versions.
Just get the microkernel version. It's not SuSE, but it's still cool.
www.mklinux.apple.com. I am right in assuming that the so-called "G3" is
really just an ordinary PPC 750, right? Or is it some twisted thing upon
which Linux (gasp) won't run? I'm pretty sure it's just a PPC 750 with a
funky name. BTW, I used one once. Sweet merciful crap, that's fast! I wish
I'd had first-hand experience with the Alphas... then I'd have something
to *really* compare it to.
------------------------------------------------
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From wolfsong@blaze.ca Thu Apr 8 00:35:00 1999
From: wolfsong@blaze.ca
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Never a dull moment...
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:35:00 -0700
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Hello, All -=20
So I'm doing the grocery-shopping thing when i pop into a local computer
parts mercantile to inquire about some new parts for my beloved's
computer...i mentioned that eventually we wanted to set up a small
network at home.
To cut a long story short, merchant gifted me with several cards and 2
hubs for an arcnet setup.
7 Q's:
1) What is arcnet, as opposed to ethernet?
2) How slow or fast is arcnet? (context: a 2 computer network)
3) How easy would such a beast be to set up? (as in, could someone give
me
a faint clue of what else i might need besides the cables, and what i
will need to do to set the network up?)
4) Is arcnet of any use to set up a network over distances longer than
one's livingroom? For example, a WAN? There are 2 hubs, and about 5
cards..
5) I know that Linux will support arcnet. Does anyone else on the list
have an arcnet setup?
6) Is it good to keep the "goodies", or would it be better to donate
them and wait until we can afford ethernet setups?
7) Am i a bit silly in my enthusiasm, or do i have no discretion at all?
TIA
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From djb@redhat.com Thu Apr 8 00:41:33 1999
From: djb@redhat.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:41:33 -0400
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> Well as long as we have a motivated and diverse audience (Hello Mr Barnes)
> I'd like to take a moment on the soap-box for a mid afternoon ramble...
[ ramble deleted ]
Your ramble is fairly accurate, but the point of the LSB=20
(http://www.linuxbase.org>) is to fix the problems you point out.
Red Hat and SuSE and other distributions are there supporting it=20
for that very reason.
--Donnie
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Challenge Diversity. Ignore People. Live Life. Use Linux. 879. V.=20
The more you cry, the less you'll pee.
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From tschlemmer@sequeltech.com Thu Apr 8 01:40:42 1999
From: tschlemmer@sequeltech.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 18:40:42 -0700
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FYI,
There is a version of Linux for the PPC and G3 called Yellow Dog Linux.
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/>
Ewan Dunbar wrote:
>=20
> On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Ian M. Moore wrote:
>=20
> >
> >
> > MAC
> > I'd love to run linux on a G3. I wish there was a Mac version of SuSE.
> > Love Linux
> > Like Mac
> > Loath Windows any and all versions.
>=20
> Just get the microkernel version. It's not SuSE, but it's still cool.
> www.mklinux.apple.com. I am right in assuming that the so-called "G3" is
> really just an ordinary PPC 750, right? Or is it some twisted thing upon
> which Linux (gasp) won't run? I'm pretty sure it's just a PPC 750 with a
> funky name. BTW, I used one once. Sweet merciful crap, that's fast! I wish
> I'd had first-hand experience with the Alphas... then I'd have something
> to *really* compare it to.
>=20
> ------------------------------------------------
> Ewan Dunbar
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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Thu Apr 8 02:09:26 1999
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux operating system makes inroads but lags behind rivals
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:09:26 -0400
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Please forgive the double Whamie if this showed up twice on the list. I
see it in my sent file, but I didn't see it on the suse list.
use SOAPBOX qw(:opinion)
print start_soapbox,
I really like this one 'cause it presents a challenge to the Linux
community. I really get sick of the always sunny-side up attitudes of
some Linux folks. As long as people realize that Linux has a long way
to
go, and are willing to invest of themselves for the long haul, there is
no
beating Linux. Right now I am only skirting around the fringes of Linux
development. My biggest contributions so far are cheer leading and code
breaking.
Must admit I don't fully understand what was said about multiprocessor
machines. I was under the impression that Linux had been adapted to run
on multiple processors. I also don't fully understand the logging
issues. Does anybody understand what this alleged shortcoming is?
To me the biggest obstacle to broad based acceptance of Linux is ease of
use. Yes the core technological growth needs of continue, but Linux is
technologically sound enough to satisfy the needs of most desktop users.
Bill has the desktop because he gave the world what they wanted, and
because of IBM's open systems architecture contribution to computing put
him in a position to "monopolize" on his advantage. Ease of use does
not
stop at Dad's desktop. We SA'a like easy to use and configuration tools
as well. And when a manager can get something of a feeling that even
*he*
could understand Linux if he really tried, then management will get
behind
Linux. In the final analysis (the appearance of) productivity is what
matters. If it takes 45 minutes to set up an NT server to do basic
networking, and two days to figure out Linux, NT will win.
The other front that Linux need help on is hardware vendor support. Why
the heck should the vendors build the parts for BG's OSs and not for
Linux? Imagine you could go to the website of the manufacturer of your
printer and download the latest printer drivers for their product. I
know
Linux is doing very well indeed without this kind of assistance, but
suppose the guys hacking the lattest module for the lattest video card
were out there hacking KDE code instead!
end_soapbox;
Steve
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>
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 8 02:20:37 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] raid software
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 04:20:37 +0200
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Massimo Lusetti wrote:
>=20
> I wish to know if SuSE 6.0 (and the coming 6.1) have the right tools for ma=
king software raid (level 0 or level 4/5), my thought was no.
This is primarily a question of kernel configuration and then some
userland tools.
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD (Multiple Devices) will give you software raid 1/4/5
CONFIG_MD_STRIPED will give you raid 0
Go into the kernel configuration (make menuconfig), enable the first of=20
the above options and you will get several more options. Have a look at
the help screens for each option.
You should also have a look at /usr/src/linux/Documentation/md.txt and
at the Software-RAID mini-HOWTO, e.g. at
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Lin=
ux/docs/HOWTO/mini/>
It contains lots of useful links and, I'm sure, it will tell you
about the needed userland tools.
I only know of the raidtools package, current version 0.50beta3.
> And i wish to know if on a busy system (system load never under 85%) the so=
ftware raid take benefit or not.
> Any exeperience with it !?
Sorry, no experience.
Henning
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 8 02:41:13 1999
From: northsky@ix.netcom.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux operating system makes inroads but lags behind rivals
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:41:13 -0400
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On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
>=20
> Please forgive the double Whamie if this showed up twice on the list. I
> see it in my sent file, but I didn't see it on the suse list.
>=20
> use SOAPBOX qw(:opinion)
> print start_soapbox,
> I really like this one 'cause it presents a challenge to the Linux
> community. I really get sick of the always sunny-side up attitudes of
> some Linux folks. As long as people realize that Linux has a long way
> to
> go, and are willing to invest of themselves for the long haul, there is
> no
> beating Linux. Right now I am only skirting around the fringes of Linux
> development. My biggest contributions so far are cheer leading and code
> breaking.
>=20
> Must admit I don't fully understand what was said about multiprocessor
> machines. I was under the impression that Linux had been adapted to run
> on multiple processors. I also don't fully understand the logging
> issues. Does anybody understand what this alleged shortcoming is?
WSJ misinterpreted the report. Linux certainly has logging facilities. All
Unix does. (Or else, my /var/log directory is just a figment of my
imagination.). Perhaps they refer to lack of a journaling filesystem. It
also has SMP support, so I don't know what they were talking about on that
other count.=20
> The other front that Linux need help on is hardware vendor support. Why
> the heck should the vendors build the parts for BG's OSs and not for
Whoa! The Bee Gees have an OS now?
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From mclean@daytona.tunl.duke.edu Thu Apr 8 03:18:02 1999
From: mclean@daytona.tunl.duke.edu
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Fat32 workaround?
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:18:02 -0400
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So I just got my shiney new SuSe 6.0 box set, mmmm lexan...
Um, yeah, so the harddisk on my machine came setup from the retailer
having a single FAT32 partition which encloses the entire disk which is
4.3 Gb. Only about a gig is occupied. Is there a way to preserve the
used portion while repartitioning, i.e., simply shrink the current
partition to make room for the new linux ones?
Preesh in advance for assistance,
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From skoper@mediaone.net Thu Apr 8 03:48:30 1999
From: skoper@mediaone.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 and masquerading. Works, but...
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:48:30 -0400
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Robert,
I could have written this message myself. I'm in the same boat. The
ipfwadm-wrapper thing didn't work, and besides, the documentation says not
to use it if
you're using ipchains, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense, since why
would you
want to use it otherwise.
I downloaded the ipchains 1-point-something files the other day, and
got a couple of files out of it, masquerade and routable (well, there are
three files
actually). The documentation says that masquerade is for inside networks,
and routable
is for gateways, but that's confusing because I think I'm running my linux
box as the gateway to the
internet, so routable sounds like it makes more sense. But running
masquerade sets up both the IP network (198.168.10.0/24 in my case) and the
gateway to my isp (through a cable modem).
I also went to Rob Ziegler's web site and ran is ipchains script
generator. It's keyed for redhat and generates an rc.firewall script based
on your individual input. I figured I'd create a script, and that would
give me the entries I need to use with ipchains, and I could plug it in.
But I'm not sure where to plug it in, given as you note, that SuSE
seems to have hard coded ipfwadm into the startup script. Anyway, to make
this long story longer, I put a masquerade script from ipchains-firewall
(which has a typo init, BTW, and I'm doing this at 10:30-12.00 at night,
which is the only time I seem to have any free time these days), so on boot
up I reach a point where it identifies a series of ipfwadm errors, telling
me several times that SETSOCKOPT failed, because a protocol not found (or
not available), and after about 12 lines of that (probably one for each
"protocol", like ftp and telnet) it starts a new set using ipchains, and
then I get a bunch of error messages along similar lines, although this
time the protocols (like ICMP) are actually mentioned, it tells me (IIRC)
that I have a null string (or something like that) and moves on.
Now, I have three methods of booting up. I can physically change hard
drives. My 2.1 gig HD has SuSE 5.3 and kernel 2.0.35 on it, and that's my
fall back. The other , a 3.1 gig, has SuSE 6.0 on it, and has both the
2.0.36 kernel, which I can boot from a floppy, and 2.2.5, which boots
"normally".
If I boot the 3.1 gig drive using the boot floppy I get the a whole set
of error messages, but I boot into 2.0.36, ipfwadm is "in charge" and my
ipforwarding works. If I boot the 3.1 gig drive without the floppy, I go to
kernel 2.2.5, I see the same error messages, and ipforwarding doesn't
work--everything is blocked.
More curiously, when I execute "shutdown -h now" or "reboot" on the 3.1
drive (whether booted from floppy or HD), I see the *same* sets of error
messages for ipchains, and at the end of it, it says something like
"Firewall is Set Up" or whatever it's supposed to say when the script runs
at boot up. I don't think it should
be doing that, but it probably gives someone out there a clue as to where
this script is that's running, since there can't be too many that run both
coming and going.
One other oddity. When I type just plain "route" in SuSE 6.0, the
program/command hangs (it didn't use to). When I type "route -n" it works,
but everything is listed twice. Why? Is route getting information from
two places? Should I delete all route.conf information? (I don't think
so).
Anyway, you're not alone.
Stan Koper
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert C Paulsen Jr
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
Date: Sunday, April 04, 1999 11:44 PM
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 and masquerading. Works, but...
>
>Yes, I have it working but...
>
>I use the script below to start masquerading on my freshly installed 2.2.5
>kernel (on SuSE 6.0) and it seems to be working OK.
>
>But I would like to get it working the "right way" using the boot scripts
in
>/sbin/init.d. I see that the ipfwadm script checks for ipfwadm vs. ipchains
for
>accounting but the masquerade script has ipfwadm hard coded and doesn't
>appear to understand ipchains. Am I missing something? Is there another
>rpm package I should download?
>
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D[ my script ]=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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>#!/bin/sh
>#
>IPFDIR=3D/sbin
>$IPFDIR/ipchains -P forward DENY
>$IPFDIR/ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s 192.168.0.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0
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From mistrM@gtemail.net Thu Apr 8 06:09:47 1999
From: mistrM@gtemail.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:09:47 -0700
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Greetings:
I agree that both RedHat and SuSE distros have their great points and
shortcomings.
There is something that no one who has replied has touched upon:
What about the companies themselves?
RedHat was the first Linux distro I ever used. I thought the company
produced a great product and I had planned on staying with it until the
release of 5.2. Why? I was upset to find out RedHat purposely shipped 5.2
with a PRE-release 2.0.36 kernel just so they could get their product on
store shelves and claim they had the first Linux distro that would run the
new 2.2.x kernel. Let's not forget the cash that this generated or the
press they got which I'm sure did the company no harm in the subsequent
deals they made. Frankly, if I wanted more Betaware I would still be buying
from Microsoft.
My whole interest in Linux was to escape from companies like Microsoft, IBM,
and Apple that put profits above the quality of their product and use strong
arm tactics to control the market and its users.
SuSE on the other hand has delayed releases to fix bugs that were found at
the last minute in some of their products. This impresses me to NO end. A
company that cares about the quality of their product more than their
balance at the bank. WOW!
Don't get me wrong. I'm not against anyone making money. But if a company
wants my business they need to show me that I'm more important than signing
deals with major PC manufacturers. They can do this by not selling me a
shoddy product in a box.
I am a member of several LUGs (Linux User's Groups) and I attended the Linux
Expo. The comments I have made seem to be shared by a great many other
people. Many Linux users are afraid of RedHat becoming the next Microsoft.
Red Hat only products and deals may have something to do with this. Only
time will tell if these fears are justified.
RH has also been very lax about releasing fixes for known bugs/exploits
lately. You can read all the complaints on Usenet or lists such as bugtraq.
For all the cash that RedHat now has at its disposal I think we should be
seeing a far better product from this company. Less time at the bank and
Mercedes Benz dealership and more time producing a rock solid release!?!
SuSE isn't perfect but I feel better investing my hard earned dollars with
this company.
As a consumer your spending power is often the only real voice you have.
Use it wisely.
Mario
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From kar@webline.dk Thu Apr 8 06:23:10 1999
From: kar@webline.dk
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Alpha
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 08:23:10 +0200
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What happened to SuSE Linux for the Alpha chip? There were words about
it being the next thing after 6.0 is out, but it seems that 6.1 is
first. Not that it is a bad thing, but did Alpha die, or is it
progressing?
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From alain.buret@village.uunet.be Thu Apr 8 06:23:12 1999
From: alain.buret@village.uunet.be
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] AfterStep & SuSE
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Hi everybody
I installed SuSE6.0 a few days ago, with lots of things like Afterstep
...
I have a simple question : how can I change the Afterstep configuration
? How can I use a downloaded theme ?
I took a ~/.steprc and system.steprc (which cannot be modified) ... SuSE
seems to control everything but is not very simple to configure exactly
... I was using Slakware with KDE before, so it's a lot of change from
day-to-day.
I've downloaded Afterstep themes from as.themes.org, but readme files
doesn't explain how to install them ... "copy the files at the right
place and adapt the right files" seems to be the only explanation for
installation.
Well, is someone has experience in Afterstep within SuSE, his experience
would be appreciated.
Alain BURET
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From mha@suse.de Thu Apr 8 07:07:59 1999
From: mha@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] raid software
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:07:59 +0200
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Massimo Lusetti wrote:
> I wish to know if SuSE 6.0 (and the coming 6.1) have the right tools
> for making software raid (level 0 or level 4/5), my thought was no.
insatll package mdutils:
rpm -qip mdutils.rpm
----------------
Name : mdutils Distribution: SuSE Linux 6.1
(i386)
Version : 0.41 Vendor: SuSE GmbH,
Nuernberg, Ge
Release : 50 Build Date: Thu Apr 8
01:31:23 1999
Install date: (not installed) Build Host: Fubini.suse.de
Group : unsorted Source RPM:
mdutils-0.41-50.src.rpm
Size : 293729 License: 1999 - not
specified
Packager : feedback(a)suse.de
Summary : Utilities for 'Multiple Devices'
Description :
You can combine different partitions (including SCSI and IDE) to one
partition under Linux. More information can be found under
/usr/doc/packages/mdutils an in the man pages for add, mdcreate and mdtab.
Please be aware that the author himself considers this software as ALPHA.
We at SuSE have not encountered any problems however.
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From mha@suse.de Thu Apr 8 07:10:47 1999
From: mha@suse.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Alpha
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:10:47 +0200
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
> What happened to SuSE Linux for the Alpha chip? There were words about
> it being the next thing after 6.0 is out, but it seems that 6.1 is
> first. Not that it is a bad thing, but did Alpha die, or is it
> progressing?
AFAIK it's planned to be released (6.1 for AXP) sometime next month (May).
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From kukuk@suse.de Thu Apr 8 07:22:48 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Alpha
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:22:48 +0200
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Hello,
On Thu, Apr 08, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
>=20
> What happened to SuSE Linux for the Alpha chip? There were words about
> it being the next thing after 6.0 is out, but it seems that 6.1 is
> first. Not that it is a bad thing, but did Alpha die, or is it
> progressing?
Alpha didn't die. We work on it. In the moment it looks like we could
release it due the next weeks/month.
Thorsten
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cryptic answers and has a lot of things going on in the background.
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From grimmer@suse.de Thu Apr 8 07:34:07 1999
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Subject: RE: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:34:07 +0200
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Hi,
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, James (Jim) Hatridge wrote:
> I'm with you guys I don't mind paying (a little :)). But my question
> about Opera is will I be able to do my banking with it. Right now I
> have to use NS for the encytion (sp?). That's about the only reason I
> use NS, otherwise I use Lynx.
I guess this depends on your banking software. If it uses Java, there
shouldn't be a problem. See http://www.operasoftware.com> for=
further
details.
Bye,
LenZ
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From im@hem.passagen.se Thu Apr 8 08:05:47 1999
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:05:47 +0200
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If I'm not uttrely misstaken; The current version of the Linux
dos-utility "fips" should take care of just that...
Usaly found on your cd's...
Othervice; Partition magic or any other repartition-program
should do.
I used fips a cople of years back on a Slackware release.
Fat16 though... Worked great.
The most resent version is supposed to handle Fat32 aswell...
Good luck!
/Rikard Johnels
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From kester@cwcom.net Thu Apr 8 09:16:34 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:16:34 +0100
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I think very little, *but* it does miff me a bit when Yast overwrites
certain files (or rather, SuSEconfig does) everytime you run it; e.g. kdmrc,
ppp stuff... and there are many ocassions when running every update tool
(such as those for teTeX) is irratatingly slow. However, I do like the idea
of a central rc.config file with variables you can set which then run
scripts as you enter a particular run level. IMHO, this is a nice feature
once you get the hang of it.
k.
:Hmm. I'll try to find something that _really_ annoys me about SuSE
:tomorrow. :-)
:
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:#include \\|// - ?
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From sinthetk@gothic.net Thu Apr 8 10:27:53 1999
From: sinthetk@gothic.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas
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I would assume it because he needs the 128 bit version, because I know
that CIBC in Toronto..( my wife's bank ) won't let you even access
anything sensitive unless you are using a 128 bit browser. *shrug* that
would be my guess.
laters,
> > I'm with you guys I don't mind paying (a little :)). But my question
> > about Opera is will I be able to do my banking with it. Right now I
> > have to use NS for the encytion (sp?). That's about the only reason I
> > use NS, otherwise I use Lynx.
>=20
> I guess this depends on your banking software. If it uses Java, there
> shouldn't be a problem. See http://www.operasoftware.com> fo=
r further
> details.
>=20
> Bye,
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From klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu Thu Apr 8 10:41:49 1999
From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:41:49 +0000
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Kinda off-topic, off course...but one of the reasons that OS/2 can't easily a=
nd currently go open source (even if IBM wanted to,=20
which is doubtful: OS/2 still makes considerable money for IBM in markets whe=
re it's entrenched), is that M$ *already* owns=20
chunks of OS/2 code (and not just winos2 code either) dating back to the earl=
y days of the IBM/Microsoft joint project, when=20
the early OS was being touted as "Microsoft OS/2". IBM can't open-source wha=
t's proprietary to Microsoft --all surviving M$=20
code would have to be rewritten.
IBM really used to do some dopey deals. If you want open source, better a=
ll in all to pin your trust to Linux; certainly don't=20
hold your breath waiting for open-source OS/2.
--Kevin
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:04:31 -0700, Karsten Johansson wrote:
>
>Excellent... you put on a good show all around. :)
>
>I just hope that it doesn't happen.
>
>My understanding is that IBM is planning on putting OS/2 Warp on the Open So=
urce=20
>market to give another alternative to Microsoft products. Whether or not yo=
u=20
>like OS/2, this is a pretty cool idea. Microsoft can't buy OS/2.
>
>Besides, if this ever happens, it would be cool to see all these excellent G=
NU=20
>utilities and Linux things ported to OS/2 where it can then be accepted by t=
he=20
>general public who is scared to death of anything that smells like Unix.
>
>Laters,
> Karsten Johansson
>
>Steve Pauly wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> > I'm no cook, (programmer), but here's a possible Redmond recipe for MS
> > beer (linux):
>
> > --- snip snip snip ---
>
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From grimmer@suse.de Thu Apr 8 10:52:32 1999
From: grimmer@suse.de
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 12:52:32 +0200
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Well,
it was about time for a thread like this :)
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 djb(a)redhat.com wrote:
Welcome back, Donnie! I hoped to meet you at CeBit, you missed a great
show.
> > SuSE's major strength that I see, and the reason I installed SuSE over my=
RedHat=20
> > Linux setup is that they are involved not only in bundling software, but =
also in=20
> > preparing the drivers. SuSE wrote the drivers that support my video card=
under=20
> > X. I would have waited another month to get it from RedHat.
>=20
> The converse can also be true, depending on your video card, though. =20
> We had NeoMagic drivers available before anyone else did, for example.
Just to get it straight: neither Red Hat nor SuSE actually _wrote_ these
drivers themselves. Red Hat, for example, consulted Precision Insight to
write the i740 and Neomagic X-Servers, while SuSE coordinated the
development and negotiated between the hardware vendors and the XFree86
developers (which also got paid from SuSE for their work). Credit where
credit is due...
> SuSE probably has better support for European ISDN devices as well. =20
But the support for Cable Modems (DHCP anyone?) is weaker, since these
devices are not very common in Europe...
> I can't think of anything else where there should be a significant
> difference as far as device drivers, though.
Well, we also offer some additional binary-only kernel drivers, but that
should be it.
Bye,
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From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr 8 10:57:56 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Multi modems
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Hi
I was wondering if anyone had information or had been succesful at using 2
modems for one dialup connection.
I have an internal 56k /dev/ttyS0 identified and in use by wvdial
other is an external 56k that was on the w98 box but since Im using
ipmasquerading I never use the external.
So i moved the external to the linux and set it for /dev/ttys2
But I would really like to use 2 modems at once ;->
Is this possible? Ive looked thru the modem HOWTOS but it dosent see to=20
be too popular of a subject.
any ideas?=20
thanks=20
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From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Thu Apr 8 11:01:04 1999
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 23:01:04 +1200
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Hi Yall,
first off, thanx to the people @ SuSE, for an excellent distro! :-)
Second, help..... I loath the crappy grainy quality of the fonts in X11
& long for the smooth one'z from my *cough-cough*, Crash95 days. So, the
Free Type package included in the SuSE 6.0 says it's a "Font Library"
but not a "Font Server". Ergo, I guess I need a font server to view good
quality text in the KDE environment. (Gnome & Enlightenment have
font-smoothing built in; but I am happy with KDE, except for.....)
Where does one get such a beast as a Font Server & how have my fellow
SuSE users found them to be? Or, can someone point me to a How-To or
some such, to set one up?
*BFN*
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From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr 8 11:25:19 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Color pine
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 07:25:19 -0400
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With all the talk about "to hell with netscape..." Im interested if anyone
has gotten pine to run in color?
A while back... I went to pines site and forund a link to someones site
who wrote a patch to have pine run in color, however when I applied it it
broke my existing pine so I gave up. IF I remember correctly the errors
where something referring to "hunks"
I like the look of tin and would realy like to get my pine in color.
Having the subject-sender and text black and white gets a little tough on
the eyes.
Anyone do this?
thanks
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From roed@hem.utfors.se Thu Apr 8 11:45:48 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 13:45:48 +0200
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Hi Mr. M!
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Mr. M wrote:
> Many Linux users are afraid of RedHat becoming the next Microsoft. Red
> Hat only products and deals may have something to do with this. Only
> time will tell if these fears are justified.
Maby it will be the Windows 3000. :-)
> SuSE isn't perfect but I feel better investing my hard earned dollars with
> this company.
Yep! That's the way I feel to.
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From jlr@soltec.net Thu Apr 8 12:23:31 1999
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[SuSE Linux] sndconfig...where is this, SuSE 6.0, where is this? et al
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 07:23:31 -0500
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I am a newbie to Linux, SuSE in particular. I have installed, in the past,
& used FreeBSD (2.2.6).
I recently was impressed enough with what I heard about Linux, SuSE in
particular, that I bought it.
My machine is MSNT based, as follows:
AMD K6-2/350
64MB SDRAM
Canopus Total 3D PCI video card, with Rendition, and Verite 1000 chip
Creative Labs Sound BLaster PCI 128 sound card
Symbios Logic 53C416 SCSI card (came w/ my HP Scanjet 4P.)
ATAPI CD ROM (Warhens? generic from Best Buy)
Motorola Bitsurfer 288 internal modem (Legacy)
3 internal hard drives. c:\ is NT 4.0 with NTFS. SuSE is on its own,
dedicated hdd, and I boot from a floppy, TO Lilo, until I get brave enough
to strip the MBR from the floppy and move it over to c:\. Okay? Here're my
questions.
Printer is an HP LaserJet 1100
I have no sound, either in X-term, or KDE. I typed "sndconfig" as root, but
the response is that there is no such command. I can put a music CD in,
press play, & see the activity in the player, and it's reading the CD's
properties correctly, but no sound. My first question is, how can I
configure my sound card, or better yet, will I be able to?
Second question: I can't find my modem & successfully querry it from KPPP.
In NT it's com 2; in SuSE, it's ttyS1, but the response when that device is
selected in KPPP is always "modem busy." *IF* however, I select device as
3, as in ttyS3, cua3, etc., it will querry the modem, and I hear it *START*
to dial, then KPPP tells me "modem querry timed out." I've checked my conf
file & fs tab, etc., and the modem is there, and I've used YAST over & again
to install the modem. I tried going to an X-Term and typing "ln -s
/dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem" When I do, the response is that it already exists.
The modem is PNP, but I have PNP disabled via jumper. I have configured
networking as PPP & the PPP device as modem. I have no NIC, and my sole
connection to the 'net is my ISP, which uses dynamic IP. Should I edit a
file's properties & make this device cua1? TtyS1 surprised me, as I expected
it to be cua1. I had this problem with FreeBSD, where it tried to make my
mouse a tty, as opposed to a cua; when I edited the properties, all was
fine. I just don't know what file(s) to edit, for sure.
Third question: has anyone been able to use the Symbios SCSI card I
mentioned? I hate to have to go out & buy another SCSI card just to use
Linux, but from what I've seen, I'd be willing. It sure looks good to me.
Thank you so much, in advance, for the help. :)
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From slockhar@cadvision.com Thu Apr 8 13:01:43 1999
From: slockhar@cadvision.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 07:01:43 -0600
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I believe Opera is 128-bit.
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas
>
>I would assume it because he needs the 128 bit version, because I know
>that CIBC in Toronto..( my wife's bank ) won't let you even access
>anything sensitive unless you are using a 128 bit browser. *shrug* that
>would be my guess.
>
>laters,
>
>> > I'm with you guys I don't mind paying (a little :)). But my question
>> > about Opera is will I be able to do my banking with it. Right now I
>> > have to use NS for the encytion (sp?). That's about the only reason I
>> > use NS, otherwise I use Lynx.
>>=20
>> I guess this depends on your banking software. If it uses Java, there
>> shouldn't be a problem. See http://www.operasoftware.com> f=
or further
>> details.
>>=20
>> Bye,
>> LenZ
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 07:04:31 -0700
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Excellent... you put on a good show all around. :)
I just hope that it doesn't happen.
My understanding is that IBM is planning on putting OS/2 Warp on the Open Sou=
rce=20
market to give another alternative to Microsoft products. Whether or not you=
=20
like OS/2, this is a pretty cool idea. Microsoft can't buy OS/2.
Besides, if this ever happens, it would be cool to see all these excellent GN=
U=20
utilities and Linux things ported to OS/2 where it can then be accepted by th=
e=20
general public who is scared to death of anything that smells like Unix.
Laters,
Karsten Johansson
Steve Pauly wrote:
>=20
>=20
> I'm no cook, (programmer), but here's a possible Redmond recipe for MS
> beer (linux):
> --- snip snip snip ---
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 07:07:04 -0700
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Rachel Greenham wrote:
>=20
> In message <199904071637.JAA29368(a)www1.xoommai=
l.com>
> Karsten Johansson wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > I think the real question would be: With all the high quality Unix=20
> > networking software out there, what would IE add?
>=20
> Well, I for one would feel happier knowing there was more than one
> well-featured browser for Linux. After all, it's not Windows; we don't *ha=
ve*
> to use it, but hey, what if it's better? :-) Let Netscape feel that their
> Linux constituency is under threat, maybe they'll improve their product.
I am sure that Microsoft, like they have done so many times in the past, will=
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From chjo@tripnet.se Thu Apr 8 14:14:47 1999
From: chjo@tripnet.se
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Free Type?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:14:47 +0200
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Bobby Geortgilakis wrote:
>=20
> Hi Yall,
>=20
> first off, thanx to the people @ SuSE, for an excellent distro! :-)
>=20
> Second, help..... I loath the crappy grainy quality of the fonts in X11
> & long for the smooth one'z from my *cough-cough*, Crash95 days. So, the
> Free Type package included in the SuSE 6.0 says it's a "Font Library"
> but not a "Font Server". Ergo, I guess I need a font server to view good
> quality text in the KDE environment. (Gnome & Enlightenment have
> font-smoothing built in; but I am happy with KDE, except for.....)
>=20
> Where does one get such a beast as a Font Server & how have my fellow
> SuSE users found them to be? Or, can someone point me to a How-To or
> some such, to set one up?
>=20
> *BFN*
>=20
> Greek Geek.
Hi!
You should get xfstt. That's the fontserver you're looking for. I'm using
it myself and am very happy with it!
Tina
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From ajtudo0@engr.uky.edu Thu Apr 8 14:31:42 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] DVD Support?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:31:42 -0400
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Does anyone know the latest about DVD support for Linux?
Specifically for the creative labs DVD / Drx2 Mpeg package.
Andy
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From brauki@cityweb.de Thu Apr 8 15:03:13 1999
From: brauki@cityweb.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Alpha
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:03:13 +0200
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Thorsten Kukuk wrote:
>=20
> Hello,
>=20
> On Thu, Apr 08, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
>=20
> >
> > What happened to SuSE Linux for the Alpha chip? There were words about
> > it being the next thing after 6.0 is out, but it seems that 6.1 is
> > first. Not that it is a bad thing, but did Alpha die, or is it
> > progressing?
>=20
> Alpha didn't die. We work on it. In the moment it looks like we could
> release it due the next weeks/month.
>=20
> Thorsten
>=20
Yes. I can confirm that. I have see a beta-release as a giveaway from
CBit. It was a tombola price on the last LUG meeting. Since there was
only 1 interested person we even hadn=C5=BDt to draw lots. ;-))
Juergen
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From mqf090@lulu.acns.nwu.edu Thu Apr 8 15:09:11 1999
From: mqf090@lulu.acns.nwu.edu
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Fixed (width) Font Server
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:09:11 -0500
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Is there anything as a fixed font server? I'm running xfstt and while I'm
able to use my TrueType fonts, the fixed width font options still has the
same choices - e.g., fixed width fonts in Netscape . . .
Any suggestions?
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From mjburke@wmfinc.com Thu Apr 8 15:19:11 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] ATI Rage Fury and SuSE 6.0
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I cannot get the ATI Rage Fury to work, I have tried many suggestions
including using the Banshee workaround using the Frame Buffer, but the
Xserver still fails to starts, In the directions it does say that it was
using Xfree 3.3.2, and SusE comes with 3.3.3.
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From nickaa@soldier.net Thu Apr 8 15:57:17 1999
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:57:17 +0400
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How can i update packages from update directory on ftp with YaST ?
PS soory for my poor english...
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From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Thu Apr 8 16:23:02 1999
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:23:02 -0700
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Hi all,
While I usually hate threads such as these I can't
help myself but respond. Both RedHat and SuSE are
making incredible strides in bringing Linux to the
masses. Here is my unqualified opinion having used
just about every major distribution:
Redhat is great for the newbie. It does everything
for you(practically that is). I was not very fond of
5.0 or 5.1 for that matter...but 5.2 seems quite
good(Stable?). I found it harder to move on from
newbie to intermediate+ using it though.
SuSE is what I choose to use now. I find it quite
easy to install for most things. Sound is not as easy
to install. But X(with Sax) could not get any easier.
I have also found that SuSE pushes you more towards
learning the ins and outs of your system...Definately
not a bad thing. And the 450 page book is incredible.
Kudos to the writers. Lastly...being biased as the
KDE documentation coordinator...It installs KDE by
default(ducking).
What I would like to see is the wars to stop between
all of the dists and perhaps have them all move
towards some sort of a standard. But that seems to be
a pipe dream...Every *nix OS I have to work on does
something different. It makes it fun but a pain in
the buttocks at times as well. =20
Well...those are all the thoughts I will bore you with
ATM. Thanks for reading this...those that did. Just
remember kids:
Linux=3DLinux
it all starts with the same kernel...
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From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Thu Apr 8 16:33:38 1999
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:33:38 -0700
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fips 2.0 works incredibly well with fat32...Can't do
some of the things partition magic can though...but if
you have one drive and want to split it up...fips is
your man...just be sure to defragment first....very
important.
--- "R. Johnels" wrote:
>=20
> If I'm not uttrely misstaken; The current version of
> the Linux
> dos-utility "fips" should take care of just that...
> Usaly found on your cd's...
> Othervice; Partition magic or any other
> repartition-program
> should do.
>=20
> I used fips a cople of years back on a Slackware
> release.
> Fat16 though... Worked great.
> The most resent version is supposed to handle Fat32
> aswell...
>=20
> Good luck!
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From henrique@ifi.unicamp.br Thu Apr 8 16:52:05 1999
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Ole Kofoed Hansen wrote:
>=20
> With a 486/33, you want PCI, since you probably do not have
> an AGP slot.
>=20
Hey,
Take care, some old 486/33 don't have even PCI slot, maybe you need
an ISA card...
henrique
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From mcleod@ssc.es Thu Apr 8 16:52:31 1999
From: mcleod@ssc.es
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Subject:
[SuSE Linux] A new article on linux distros! Suse the most favorable rating.
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:52:31 +0200
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Hello all!
I'll be publishing on a spanish magazine an
article about different linux distros, Suse gets my best rating. It'll be
published on May.
Thanks in advance,
Vicente Werner
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Hi guys!
I've write a perl script suid root that runs ok in a 5.3 =
box=20
but in my 6.0 box it isnt running.
I get this message:
"Cant do setuid"
I've written a C wrapper and it is running as root but th=
e=20
script itself refuses to run as root in 6.0
Can someone give a tip on this?
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From hajo@mindspring.com Thu Apr 8 17:11:24 1999
From: hajo@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Sick of it! CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:11:24 -0700
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I'm getting sick of this thread! Show me a program that runs on Red Hat and
doesn't on another distribution! (i might have to download some libraries
but that's not too hard.)
Metrowerks does NOT say that it only works with Red Hat; just that they're
doing a bundling deal. I am sick of platform wars; are we getting
distribution wars now?!?
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux
>
> Blah, blah, blah...
>
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From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Thu Apr 8 17:30:42 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] A new article on linux distros! Suse the most
favorable rating. (READABILITY)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:30:42 +0200
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Dear Vicente,
Can you please sent the email as plain text. This quite difficult to
read.
Regards,
Joop Boonen.
"Vicente A.S. Werner" wrote:
> Hello all! I'll be publishing on a spanish magazine an article
> about different linux distros, Suse gets my best rating. It'll be
> published on May. Thanks in advance, Vicente Werner
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From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Thu Apr 8 17:36:13 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Email in plain text please
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Dear all,
Lately i see more often in this mailing list that people tend to use
attributes in their emails like background colours. This doesn't improve
the readability.
So i ask you all. Can you please sent your email as plain text?
Regards,
Joop Boonen.
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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Thu Apr 8 17:42:20 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:42:20 +0200
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Hi all;
Thanks for all your help with teaching about hardware. Now I've another
question. I'm looking at video cards. There seems to be two types PCI and
AGP. What is the differece and which type should I look at? I have an old
486/33 with 8mb ram etc.
TIA!
J
I
M
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From deh@ip.pt Thu Apr 8 17:48:06 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:48:06 +0100
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Then you should be OK - Opera was developed in Europe and therefore doesn't
have to obey stupid laws. There's no "40-bit" version of Opera, it has had
128-bit encryption from the start.=20
IMHO Opera is to Netscape as Linux is to Windows.
(I'm talking about speed, efficiency and stability, not open source/free
software).
"Benjamin A. Rosenberg" wrote:
>=20
> I would assume it because he needs the 128 bit version, because I know
> that CIBC in Toronto..( my wife's bank ) won't let you even access
> anything sensitive unless you are using a 128 bit browser. *shrug* that
> would be my guess.
>=20
> laters,
>=20
> > > I'm with you guys I don't mind paying (a little :)). But my question
> > > about Opera is will I be able to do my banking with it. Right now I
> > > have to use NS for the encytion (sp?). That's about the only reason I
> > > use NS, otherwise I use Lynx.
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From Andy@nerds.co.uk Thu Apr 8 17:50:30 1999
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I have been using SuSE 6.0 for a little while at home. Now I want to
install it on my new machine at work, and ditch Win95. My question is
can I get Linux to act as a client on a Novell 4.11 network? Is there
a VLM/NETX type program for Linux?
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Windows Error #02: Multitasking attempted. System confused.
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From markgray@iago.nac.net Thu Apr 8 18:10:48 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SetUID perl script Problem
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:10:48 -0400
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"Webmaster da Prover Internet" writes:
> Hi guys!
>=20
> I've write a perl script suid root that runs ok in a 5.3 box but in my =3D
> 6.0 box it isnt running.
> I get this message:
> "Cant do setuid"
>=20
> I've written a C wrapper and it is running as root but the script itself =3D
> refuses to run as root in 6.0
>=20
> Can someone give a tip on this?
>=20
>=20
> []s
> Renato Arrudas Ornelas
> Webmaster da Rede Prover Internet
> http://www.prover.com.br>
> webmaster(a)prover.com.br
I encountered this myself -- perl now checks for this and your perl
script is taking chances with something the outside world handed you.
The easiest solution is to do some sort of string manipulation with
all data handed you from outside before passing it to another program.
Also get rid of root privilidges as soon as you can:
#
# Done with root priviledge -- now drop it Needs use English;
$EUID =3D $UID;
$EGID =3D $GID; # XXX: initgroups() not called
See man perlsec for more details (or post the script).
Hope this helps.
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From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Thu Apr 8 18:13:07 1999
From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Free Type?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:13:07 -0700
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Bobby Geortgilakis wrote:
> Where does one get such a beast as a Font Server & how have my fellow
> SuSE users found them to be? Or, can someone point me to a How-To or
> some such, to set one up?
Take a look at the XFSTT package. It works great and is fairly easy to
install. Make sure you read the docs though cause there's a few things
you're going to have to do for a working TTFserver once you get done
building the package.=20
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From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Thu Apr 8 18:21:07 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:21:07 -0700
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
> Well,
>=20
> it was about time for a thread like this :)
:-)=20
That's what I said. Some things never change, eh??? :-)=20
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From drew@adapco.com Thu Apr 8 18:24:43 1999
From: drew@adapco.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] strange log message
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:24:43 -0400
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Does anybody know what this message means:
Apr 8 11:50:53 linux2 kernel: 08:12: rw=3D0, want=3D1140955673,
limit=3D7566615
Apr 8 11:50:53 linux2 kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
I have a bad feeling about this message. I've been having problems with=20
this machine on and off, I've been putting off reloading the machine
until
I receive 6.1. Any ideas?
Drew
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From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Thu Apr 8 18:24:53 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 20:24:53 +0200
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With a 486/33, you want PCI, since you probably do not have
an AGP slot.
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, James (Jim) Hatridge wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Hi all;
>=20
> Thanks for all your help with teaching about hardware. Now I've another
> question. I'm looking at video cards. There seems to be two types PCI and
> AGP. What is the differece and which type should I look at? I have an old
> 486/33 with 8mb ram etc.
>=20
>=20
> TIA!
>=20
>=20
> J
> I
> M
> -----------------------------------------
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> Germany=20
> hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de
>=20
> Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!!
>=20
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From mcdo148@ibm.net Thu Apr 8 18:25:05 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Progress! Linux found the modem and it dials...
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:25:05 -0400
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Hello all,
Well after all of the help you gave me, I thought you would like tyo know tha=
t I
now have linux recognizing the modem and minicom will dial out. Just about to
try the dialing to ISP thing, but hurrah this is major progress!
All I did was tell the BIOs that I didn't have a PnP aware OS, linux then
recognized it had a com 1 and 2 and the modem dialed. I had to come into wind=
ows
and actually register our new computer before time runs out, but hopefully the
isp thing'll work.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!!
Cheers!
Dom
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From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Thu Apr 8 19:09:32 1999
From: k01164@ko.sdu.dk
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:09:32 +0200
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 henrique(a)ifi.unicamp.br wrote:
> Ole Kofoed Hansen wrote:
> >=20
> > With a 486/33, you want PCI, since you probably do not have
> > an AGP slot.
> >=20
>=20
> Hey,
>=20
> Take care, some old 486/33 don't have even PCI slot, maybe you need
> an ISA card...
>=20
> henrique
Oops, I'm sorry... Henrique is right.
Regards
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:18:57 +0200
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Dear James,
If you have a 486/33Mhz. You probably only have ISA or ISA and VESA local
bus. That means that either of the video cards will fit. I don't think anyone
still produces ISA video cards.
It's probably not nice to say. But it's the only, you will have to buy
another PC to use a new video card.
Regards,
Joop Boonen.
I don't where you are in Germany but there are quite a lot of shops with
cheap computers. I advice to buy the C't and look in that one.
"James (Jim) Hat ridge" wrote:
> Hi all;
>
> Thanks for all your help with teaching about hardware. Now I've another
> question. I'm looking at video cards. There seems to be two types PCI and
> AGP. What is the differece and which type should I look at? I have an old
> 486/33 with 8mb ram etc.
>
> TIA!
>
> J
> I
> M
> -----------------------------------------
> Jim Hatridge
> Germany
> hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de
>
> Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!!
>
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From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Thu Apr 8 19:35:37 1999
From: bobbyg@ihug.co.nz
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Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 07:35:37 +1200
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Hi Yall,
many thanx for the tips & tricks.
I'll get stuck in after breakfast & see how I go. Mmmm, food.
Greek Geek. :-)
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From jerdfelt@suse.com Thu Apr 8 19:56:05 1999
From: jerdfelt@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 12:56:05 -0700
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On Thu, Apr 08, 1999, Joop Boonen wrote:
> If you have a 486/33Mhz. You probably only have ISA or ISA and VESA local
> bus. That means that either of the video cards will fit. I don't think anyo=
ne
> still produces ISA video cards.
>=20
> It's probably not nice to say. But it's the only, you will have to buy
> another PC to use a new video card.
There is a chance that he may have PCI in his system. Definately does
not have AGP tho.
Trying running this command:
cat /proc/pci
If you get a bunch of lines, then you have PCI in his system.
JE
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 13:08:28 -0700
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On 8 Apr, Joop Boonen wrote:
>=20
> Dear all,
>=20
> Lately i see more often in this mailing list that people tend to use
> attributes in their emails like background colours. This doesn't improve
> the readability.
>=20
> So i ask you all. Can you please sent your email as plain text?
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Joop Boonen.
>=20
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My sentiments exactly.
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 8 20:09:18 1999
From: northsky@ix.netcom.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:09:18 -0400
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 henrique(a)ifi.unicamp.br wrote:
>=20
> Ole Kofoed Hansen wrote:
> >=20
> > With a 486/33, you want PCI, since you probably do not have
> > an AGP slot.
> >=20
>=20
> Hey,
>=20
> Take care, some old 486/33 don't have even PCI slot, maybe you need
> an ISA card...
Yes, but if we're talking about video cards here, it probably has a VLB
slot at the very least.
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From roed@hem.utfors.se Thu Apr 8 20:10:03 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 22:10:03 +0200
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, James (Jim) Hatridge wrote:
> Hi all;
>=20
> Thanks for all your help with teaching about hardware. Now I've another
> question. I'm looking at video cards. There seems to be two types PCI and
> AGP. What is the differece and which type should I look at? I have an old
> 486/33 with 8mb ram etc.
Does your computer have PCI or AGP buss ?
In my old 486, there only is ISA buss. But when I spending my mony on a
new computer, I think I going to get me a AGP card.
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From kick@c2i.net Thu Apr 8 20:20:11 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 22:20:11 +0200
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Pedro Timoteo said in Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible=20
reas at 08/Apr/1999 (Thu) 19:48:06.
> IMHO Opera is to Netscape as Linux is to Windows.
> (I'm talking about speed, efficiency and stability, not open source/free
> software).
I never understood all the fuss about Opera. Its not THAT good is it?! =20
Hopefully its not the de facto model for the alternative to Netscape on=20
linux.
There must be better than that.
Anyway Operasoftware are more than shortsighted if they dont release it to=20
the linux community under a full opensource license.
So there :-P
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From nick.leroy@norland.com Thu Apr 8 20:21:43 1999
From: nick.leroy@norland.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:21:43 -0500
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Jim...
If you don't have a PCI, you still *can* find ISA video cards, but they're
getting hard to find. Dalco Electronic does have some, I know. No
affiliation, but I've bought from them several times, and have had good
luck with them. I'm sure other places do, too, but you'll have to hunt,
and you certainly won't get the 'latest & greatest'.
Just my $.02 worth
-Nick
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From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Thu Apr 8 20:50:28 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 22:50:28 +0200
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Dear Jim,
I don't know the main reason why you want to replace the video card. Is the c=
ard
that is in the machine right now broken. If so you will be able to get cheap
replacements at a second hand computer shop.
If you want a new video card to increase performance. Than i wouldn't spent t=
he
money on it as your system is already very slow. In comparison to now a day
systems. I think the system might run XFree quite well as long as you don't r=
un
Staroffice and probably netscape.
To be sure if you have either ISA or VESA local bus or PCI or even AGP you ha=
ve to
open up your PC. Btw AGP is just nonsense as there hasn't been ever a 486 with
AGP. And as far as i know the PCI 486 only excised after the DX-4 was introdu=
ced
(100MHz 486).
I will try to explain how you can see if you have ISA or VESA local bus of PC=
I. If
you measure the slot if the total length is 14 cm than it's a ISA Slot If it'=
s 8.5
cm than it's a XT slot. This type is very old fashioned. If the slot is 22.5 =
cm
than it's VESA local bus if it's 8 cm than it's a PCI slot. Another remark PCI
slots are most of the time white ISA and XT slots are most of the time black.=
VESA
local bus slots are most of the time black with a brown extension connector (=
It's
basically a ISA connector and a extension connector).
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Joop Boonen.
Nicholas R LeRoy wrote:
> Jim...
>
> If you don't have a PCI, you still *can* find ISA video cards, but they're
> getting hard to find. Dalco Electronic does have some, I know. No
> affiliation, but I've bought from them several times, and have had good
> luck with them. I'm sure other places do, too, but you'll have to hunt,
> and you certainly won't get the 'latest & greatest'.
>
> Just my $.02 worth
>
> -Nick
>
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] A new article on linux distros! Suse the most
favorable rating.
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 23:04:57 +0200
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The magazine it's Solo Programadores Linux, and they don't have a web site,
anyway when I'll return from
a small holiday I'll ask the to publish it on the web, probably after May
because it's when the magazine will
be published.
Anyway thanks for the good feedback I'm getting there
Vicente
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Michael Perry writes:
> On 8 Apr, Joop Boonen wrote:
[...]
> > So i ask you all. Can you please sent your email as plain text?
[...]
> My sentiments exactly.
And mine as well.
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From jbodnar@dev.tivoli.com Thu Apr 8 21:15:09 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:15:09 -0500
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Here's a list of all the ISA cards found on www.killerapp.com. Pretty
expensive. Might be better off getting a new motherboard.
http://www.killerapp.com/cgi/crunch/pcompare.asp?ptable=3D=
Graphics_Cards>&lastrow=3D0
&join=3Dand&sortby=3Dbrand%2Cmodel&showall=3DN&interface=3DISA&numrows=3D10
On 08-Apr-99 Nicholas R LeRoy wrote:
>=20
> Jim...
>=20
> If you don't have a PCI, you still *can* find ISA video cards, but they're
> getting hard to find. Dalco Electronic does have some, I know. No
> affiliation, but I've bought from them several times, and have had good
> luck with them. I'm sure other places do, too, but you'll have to hunt,
> and you certainly won't get the 'latest & greatest'.
>=20
> Just my $.02 worth
>=20
> -Nick
>=20
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From jbodnar@dev.tivoli.com Thu Apr 8 21:29:51 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Home Phoneline Network card support
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:29:51 -0500
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Has anybody heard if there's been any work on drivers for home phoneline
network cards from Tut Systems and Epigram (sold by Diamond MM and other
companies)?
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From karl.stas@rug.ac.be Thu Apr 8 21:45:17 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] machine off at shutdown
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 23:45:17 +0200
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Lots of people (including myself) are having problems with machines that
can't be put off using the on/off button, and would like to have Linux to do
this, just as windows does. But even if you configure the kernel as to
include support for this APM feature, it just won't work . Now it seems that
the "halt" script (in /sbin/init.d/halt or /etc/rc.d/halt) could be modified
in order to obtain the desired result. Does anybody now about this?
(BTW I'm using a 2.2.4 kernel)
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From risch@tir.com Thu Apr 8 21:54:55 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice 5 on SuSE 6.0
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:54:55 -0400
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Just wondering...
I installed SO5, but chose to install in /opt rather than /home. I've
not spent any time trying to debug that so not starting may be as simple
as a broken link, but I was just wondering if the consensus was the
default install or if anyone has had my experience.
At present my /home is only 100Mb so I prefer to keep apps such as
snavigator and such there.
TIA,
Bob
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Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote:
>=20
> hiya,
>=20
> One does not have to install any lib files that stardivision packag=
es
> with the downloadable StarOffice 5 if you have SuSE 6.0. I installed the
> version off the SuSE 6.0 cd and it worked fine, I then later ordered the
> Deluxe version with the filter updates from Stardivision. I ordered it
> partly because I have a connection that makes downloading 65+ megs a
> pain in the bum...and partly because anyone who makes nice apps for
> Linux I want to support. I never minded paying a fair price for good
> software, I switched to Linux because I was tired of unstable crapware.
> SOffice 5.0+filter updates works fine..no new lib files installed.
> If you have 6.0, don't worry about it..those libs are for people who
> have older distros.
>=20
> just my 0.02 :)
>=20
> laters,
>=20
> > On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Chris Dunn wrote:
> > > Also the linker ld-2.0.7.so is supplied in a different version with
> > > each programme. SO5 insist that their version of these libraries and th=
e linker
> > > should be used with SO5, but I can find no way of installing using their
> > > libraries without tampering with things on my SuSE installation which I=
fear may
> > > corrupt SuSE.
> > >
> > > Has anybody successfully overcome these issues? Pointers would be great=
ly
> > > appreciated.
> >
> > No. And what I don't understand is, why do the StarDivision people even
> > bother giving you those libraries anyway? I mean, they want you to set the
> > library path to include their library directory -- and *first* in the path
> > -- therefore, if some program you want to run was compiiled for a
> > different libc version, it won't. What they *should* have done was write a
> > script which copies the current library path into a new variable, changes
> > it, runs the install/office-suite ; changes it back. Any flaws in my
> > logic? If not, try it out.
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From risch@tir.com Thu Apr 8 22:01:25 1999
From: risch@tir.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:01:25 -0400
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Though my apps are rather limited that is precisely why I chose to
install 6.0 on separate partitions rather than upgrade 5.3. Of course I
had to dispense with my Debian 2.0 and RedHat 5.1, but I felt assured
that I would allow myself time to upgrade at my leisure
Bob
Bud Rogers wrote:
>=20
> Rachel Greenham writes:
>=20
> > > 4. For the fun of it. :}
> >
> > This reason should not be underestimated you know. :-)
>=20
> Quite true. Actually, that's the best reason of all. :}
>=20
> >
> > But here's another: The problem in not upgrading kernels until you're for=
ced
> > to, with such a wonderful OS as Linux (:-)), is that you could be using t=
he
> > same kernel/distribution version for so long, that when something comes a=
long
> > that means you *do* have to upgrade, you have to do a very big upgrade and
> > discover that lots and lots of things have changed just enough to break an
> > interesting amount of the software you're running.
>=20
> Absolutely true. And that's about where I am now. I have silt in the
> bottom of /usr/local going back to Slackware 2.something. I'm starting to
> get excited about glibc and 2.2.x. But I've made the decision that, rather
> than rolling another layer over the ruins and trying to fix everything that
> breaks, I'm gonna do a scorched earth upgrade next time. As in repartition
> the drives and start from scratch. But that's not something I want to try
> to do in an afternoon -- I'll have to pick a time when I have time to do it
> right...
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From mstriani@cvtci.com.ar Thu Apr 8 22:14:47 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Where can I find the suseppp.rpm
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:14:47 -0300
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Where can I find the suseppp.rpm
I have the SuSE 5.1 with kernel 2.2.3 and yast 0.99 something
I tried to configure a ppp conection and it shows me that I hadn't install=20
the suseppp package
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From stevem12@mindspring.com Thu Apr 8 22:50:21 1999
From: stevem12@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:50:21 -0400
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On 08-Apr-99 Chuck MacKinnon wrote:
>=20
> What I would like to see is the wars to stop between
> all of the dists and perhaps have them all move
> towards some sort of a standard. But that seems to be
> a pipe dream...Every *nix OS I have to work on does
> something different. It makes it fun but a pain in
> the buttocks at times as well. =20
>=20
I believe this is the most FATAL flaw of Linux(and other Unices) as it starts
to take on Windows for the desktop. People do not want hear that they will
have to download an rpm for their particular distro, and they shouldn't have
to. One rpm for one program. I realize there are differences(libc5 and
glibc) right now, but that will change. I just can't believe people wont agr=
ee
on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . =20
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From hajo@mindspring.com Thu Apr 8 23:10:15 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:10:15 -0700
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From: Joop Boonen
>
>Dear James,
>
>If you have a 486/33Mhz. You probably only have ISA or ISA and VESA local
>bus. That means that either of the video cards will fit. I don't think
anyone
>still produces ISA video cards.
>
>It's probably not nice to say. But it's the only, you will have to buy
>another PC to use a new video card.
>
>Regards,
>
>Joop Boonen.
>
>I don't where you are in Germany but there are quite a lot of shops with
>cheap computers. I advice to buy the C't and look in that one.
>
>
>"James (Jim) Hat ridge" wrote:
>
>> Hi all;
>>
>> Thanks for all your help with teaching about hardware. Now I've another
>> question. I'm looking at video cards. There seems to be two types PCI and
>> AGP. What is the differece and which type should I look at? I have an old
>> 486/33 with 8mb ram etc.
>>
>> TIA!
>>
>> J
>> I
>> M
>> -----------------------------------------
>> Jim Hatridge
>> Germany
>> hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de
>>
>> Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!!
John is right that a NEW video card won't work. OTOH you'll probably be able
to pick up a Tseng or S3 based card for a few marks. (I've seen vid cards in
a 10 for $25 bundle before; these fullfill the video requirements for
Appservers in a cluster perfectly!; actually they have 2 megs of RAM and
will do 1024x768x8bits fine under X)
Hajo
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From hmf@softhome.net Thu Apr 8 23:16:51 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] ppp daemon killed
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:16:51 -0500
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hey all
my ppp daemon dies, exit code 1, when I use wvdial to connect. my modem dial=
s, then the daemon dies. what am I=20
missing? (I have suseppp set up wrong, could the settings hose things up?)
-tf
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From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Thu Apr 8 23:25:53 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Free Type & the crunchy vs the smoothy.....
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Hi guys,
I've found the changing the order of loading from 75dpi to 100dpi first,
has made a improvement. :-)
XFSTT is going to take a bit more work, so for now I will leave it along
& pick it up this weekend.
This would be a nice thingy for the KDE hackers to add, *hint*. ;-)
Subtle?
Greek Geek.
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From andyford@nothnbut.net Thu Apr 8 23:58:44 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Multi modems
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:58:44 -0500
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On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 06:57:56AM -0400, dizzy73(a)connix.com wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Hi
> I was wondering if anyone had information or had been succesful at using 2
> modems for one dialup connection.
> I have an internal 56k /dev/ttyS0 identified and in use by wvdial
> other is an external 56k that was on the w98 box but since Im using
> ipmasquerading I never use the external.
> So i moved the external to the linux and set it for /dev/ttys2
> But I would really like to use 2 modems at once ;->
> Is this possible? Ive looked thru the modem HOWTOS but it dosent see to=20
> be too popular of a subject.
> any ideas?=20
> thanks=20
> rob
>=20
> Linux Homepage http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73=
/LBM.htm>
> S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 =20
I tried unsuccessfully about a year ago. My ISP gave me a free second=20
account to play with just to see if I could do it but to no avail...
There's a kernel option you need to enable and then you have to compile
and install the software.
It's called the ppp-multilink protocol and the web link for the homepage I
used to use is now dead...
Good Luck.
Andy
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From sandsmark@iname.com Fri Apr 9 00:05:37 1999
From: sandsmark@iname.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Home Phoneline Network card support]
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:05:37 -0700
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Even wrote:
Jason Bodnar wrote:
> Has anybody heard if there's been any work on drivers for home phoneline
> network cards from Tut Systems and Epigram (sold by Diamond MM and
other
> companies)?
>
> ---
> Jason Bodnar + jbodnar(a)tivoli.com + Tivoli Systems
>
> [Another Normism ...]
> Beer, Norm?
> Have I gotten that predictable? Good.
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Hi
my home network uses a TUT Systems HR1300T stand alone unit to connect
to
internet. using xDSL.
i have 3 linux machines connected to a hub. From the uplink port
it goes
to the HR1300T. ...
I have been using it for the past months and it is working perfectly,
it
does not require any special software or drivers.
so my advise is to get a 10 Mb or 10/100Mb network card about 20 to
100$
and conect to a HR1300T or similar unit.
Even
i just pushed reply and did not look at the adress (i sent it directly
to jbodnar(a)tivoli.com) so here is my reply. Sorry.
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From fmiller@lightlink.com Fri Apr 9 00:33:41 1999
From: fmiller@lightlink.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: IBM calls server 'world's fastest'
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This is not Linux related, except that the version IBM purports to be writing
would run on this beast.
Fred
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From djb@redhat.com Fri Apr 9 00:42:54 1999
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> > What I would like to see is the wars to stop between
> > all of the dists and perhaps have them all move
> > towards some sort of a standard. But that seems to be
> > a pipe dream...Every *nix OS I have to work on does
> > something different. It makes it fun but a pain in
> > the buttocks at times as well. =20
>=20
> I believe this is the most FATAL flaw of Linux(and other Unices) as it star=
ts
> to take on Windows for the desktop. People do not want hear that they will
> have to download an rpm for their particular distro, and they shouldn't have
> to. One rpm for one program. I realize there are differences(libc5 and
> glibc) right now, but that will change. I just can't believe people wont a=
gree
> on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . =20
=
http://www.linuxbase.org>
--Donnie
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Fri Apr 9 01:22:07 1999
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Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux operating system makes inroads but lags behind rivals
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:22:07 -0400
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Kris Carlier wrote:
> > also has SMP support, so I don't know what they were talking about on that
> > other count.=20
>=20
> I'm a bit confused, are you talking about the DHBROWN (www.-.com) report ?
Yes and no. I'm talking about the Wall Street Journal's mangled article
on the report. They claimed, I seem to remember, that Linux couldn't run
on more than one processor. They are confused.
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I am not a complete moron, but for some reason my old isp mail address
won't unsubscribe..I am getting rid of the account at the end of the
month..but until I do a full switch over...I need to check this
account..and I followed the instructions to unsubcribe the
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if anyone one who runs the list can help me..the address is
sinthetk(a)inlink.com :/
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From sandsmark@iname.com Fri Apr 9 02:00:59 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Home Phoneline Network card support
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:00:59 -0700
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Jason Bodnar wrote:
> I think we're thinking of different Tut Systems products. I was talking
> about Tut's HomeRun line that allows you to run a network over the existing
> phone wiring in your house. Is that what you're doing with the HR1300T?
>
> At 04:42 PM 4/8/99 -0700, Even wrote:
> >Jason Bodnar wrote:
> >
> >> Has anybody heard if there's been any work on drivers for home phoneline
> >> network cards from Tut Systems and Epigram (sold by Diamond MM and other
> >> companies)?
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Jason Bodnar + jbodnar(a)tivoli.com + Tivoli Systems
> >>
> >> [Another Normism ...]
> >> Beer, Norm?
> >> Have I gotten that predictable? Good.
> >>
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> >Hi
> >my home network uses a TUT Systems HR1300T stand alone unit to connect to
> >internet. using xDSL.
> >i have 3 linux machines connected to a hub. From the uplink port it goes
> >to the HR1300T. ...
> >I have been using it for the past months and it is working perfectly, it
> >does not require any special software or drivers.
> >so my advise is to get a 10 Mb or 10/100Mb network card about 20 to 100$
> >and conect to a HR1300T or similar unit.
> >
> >Even
> >
> >
>
> --
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Yes, i have only one phone line going into the house, no Lan cable. I split
the phone line in two, one goes into the phone and one into the TUT box.
when i am using phone i am also able to use internet . the two systems uses
different wires in the cabling. It seems to be good product, however the
system (TUT1300T) is as far as i know only able to do 10 Mb
regard Even
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From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Fri Apr 9 02:08:31 1999
From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 03:08:31 +0100
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On 09-Apr-99 djb(a)redhat.com wrote:
>=20
>> > What I would like to see is the wars to stop between
>> > all of the dists and perhaps have them all move
>> > towards some sort of a standard.
>>
>> I just can't believe people wont agree
>> on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . =20
>=20
> http://www.linuxbase.org>
>=20
> --Donnie
Well, it's nice to know a start has been made, with lots of distinguished
important members.
I had a look at the actual spec:
http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/s=
pec/book01.html>
Now, if this were more than a partial list of topics, and were not most of
its sections empty or with only minimal information, then the LinuxBase
project might have an influence. Meanwhile, it still seems that very
little exists to define a standard. So, with regret, I can't agree that
Donnie's reply is a useful response to the points raised above!
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From stevem12@mindspring.com Fri Apr 9 02:20:49 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Bad CPU??
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 22:20:49 -0400
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Is there any definitive way of testing whether a CPU is dying. The last 3 da=
ys
I had experienced an increase in abnormal crashes. Enough to drive me back to
Windows just to get something done. Although, that wasnt exactly flawless eit=
he
r. I swapped processors with another computer, and now it seems very stable.=
=20
The other computer apears to be crashing a little more than normal(it runs 95)
now. Is there any way to verfiy it???
Steve
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From dsoper@efn.org Fri Apr 9 02:47:34 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] WP 8.0 and Netware Printer
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:47:34 -0700
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Hi all,
I've got my SuSE 6.0 box talking quite happily to and printing from=20
my Netware servers. Now, is there any way I can print a=20
WordPerfect 8.0 document; i.e., is there some sort of print to file=20
feature that WP has to do this, or is there any other way. Or do I=20
have to plug one of those crummy HP DeskJets into my box?
Any advice would be appreciated.
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From dlaude@execpc.com Fri Apr 9 03:16:55 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Bad CPU??
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>=20
> Is there any definitive way of testing whether a CPU is dying. The last 3 =
days
> I had experienced an increase in abnormal crashes. Enough to drive me back=
to
> Windows just to get something done. Although, that wasnt exactly flawless e=
ithe
> r. I swapped processors with another computer, and now it seems very stabl=
e.=20
> The other computer apears to be crashing a little more than normal(it runs =
95)
> now. Is there any way to verfiy it???
There is software available, but it's commercial and around
$600, which is more than a new CPU costs, unless you have a
Intel PII. You might want to call up one of your local computer
stores and see if they would run a diagnostics test on it. This
normally should only cost you about $20. Hell..., all they have
to do is run your PC for 24 - 48 hrs and print out the results.
Dana
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 9 03:20:23 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Where can I find the suseppp.rpm
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 05:20:23 +0200
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ftp://ftp.suse.com/=
pub/SuSE-Linux/6.0/suse/n1/ppp.rpm>
However, this is 2.3.5, which you also have on the suse 6.0 cdroms.
The latest release (2.3.7) seems not to be available from
the suse server.
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 9 03:23:18 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Where can I find the suseppp.rpm
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 05:23:18 +0200
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Sorry, I didn't read the subject properly.
suseppp is at=20
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From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Fri Apr 9 04:39:38 1999
From: bobbyg@ihug.co.nz
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] WP 8.0 and Netware Printer
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Dennis wrote....
"Now, is there any way I can print a
WordPerfect 8.0 document; i.e., is there some sort of print to file
feature that WP has to do this, or is there any other way."
Sure is.
Click the printer icon in WP8, then the "Select," then "printer
create/edit," then "Add," just select your printer.... Having added a
printer, click the "destination" button-when in the "Setup" (which is in
the "Add" screen. I have not done the networking thing before, but the
WP8 dialogue therein, does offer the print to file feature you mean.
Personally, I found it intuitive after a bit of a play; click-o-rama.
Hope this helps.
Greek Geek. :-)
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From read.error@zdnetmail.com Fri Apr 9 04:41:53 1999
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Hi,
I have a problem with a local ethernet network when using the pppd. When the =
pppd is down I can telnet from the local machines ok and it gets the login pr=
ompt normally. But when I have the pppd connected to my ISP it seems the teln=
et session "hangs" for up to a minute then after that it logs in normally. I =
haven't added any hardware or changed the systen in any way. This problem sta=
rted occuring a few weeks ago and I can't figure out what's causing it. I'm u=
sing SuSE 5.3. Any information or help would be greatly appreciated. Many Tha=
nks...
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From nick@ray.ru Fri Apr 9 07:28:54 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] MASQ IPCHAINS
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:28:54 +0300
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Now I use MASQ for 0.0.0.0/24.
Can I make exception for some netwokrs? Because it netwokrs have
a route to same interface.
For example:
ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s z.z.z.z -d 0.0.0.0/0 (z.z.z.z - local network)
but not for x.x.x.x, x.x.x.x-network have a reverse route to ours local
network.
Nick K. Kozubsky
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From nick@ray.ru Fri Apr 9 07:33:04 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] METRICS & route.conf
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hello,
Can I use metrics in route command by SUSE-6.0 /sbin/init.d/route script?
What I must update, edit or replace ?
thanks
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From awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL Fri Apr 9 07:44:31 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 09:44:31 +0200
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On 09-Apr-99 djb(a)redhat.com wrote:
>> on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . =20
=20
> http://www.linuxbase.org>
> --Donnie
You must be joking, Donnie. Any perusal of the specs available at
linuxbase.org will show that almost nothing is actually on 'paper'.
Nowhere can I find or do I hear of any evidence that points to a
really active LBP committee.
Even if the committee were active and even if agreement could be
reached soon are the distro's really going to implement this
blueprint.
If they all do agree unanimously to implement what is the timetable.
Nowhere, from none of the parties concerned, do I get any indication
of the urgency of this project or real commitment to it.=20
I hope I am wrong but I think that the (hidden) interests of all parties
concerned are not moving in the direction of a LB. And that is not good.
Alexander
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From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 9 08:22:50 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ATI Rage Fury and SuSE 6.0
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Hi,
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Marshall Burke wrote:
> I cannot get the ATI Rage Fury to work, I have tried many suggestions
> including using the Banshee workaround using the Frame Buffer, but the
> Xserver still fails to starts, In the directions it does say that it
> was using Xfree 3.3.2, and SusE comes with 3.3.3.
The Rage Fury uses the ATI Rage 128 GL chipset, which is not supported by
XFree86 (yet). If the vesafb workaround doesn't help, you may be out of
luck. Or you have to purchase the commercial X-Server from Xi Graphics...
Bye,
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From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 9 08:31:23 1999
From: grimmer@suse.de
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Hi,
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote:
> Is there any definitive way of testing whether a CPU is dying. The
> last 3 days I had experienced an increase in abnormal crashes. =20
> Enough to drive me back to Windows just to get something done.
> Although, that wasnt exactly flawless eithe r. I swapped processors
> with another computer, and now it seems very stable. The other
> computer apears to be crashing a little more than normal(it runs 95)
> now. Is there any way to verfiy it???
Hmm, maybe the little cooling fan gathered too much dust? Is it running at
all? This sounds like a temperature problem to me.
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Hi,
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Drew Weirhousky wrote:
>=20
> Does anybody know what this message means:
>=20
> Apr 8 11:50:53 linux2 kernel: 08:12: rw=3D0, want=3D1140955673,
> limit=3D7566615
> Apr 8 11:50:53 linux2 kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
>=20
> I have a bad feeling about this message. I've been having problems
> with this machine on and off, I've been putting off reloading the
> machine until I receive 6.1. Any ideas?
Does your BIOS and Linux agree on your hard disk geometry?
You should use LBA to address the disk, maybe there is a mismatch.
"fdisk -l" should give you info about the geometry.
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From: alex@daniloff.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] About 2.2.5 kernel in SuSE 6.1 and Kppp problem.
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:06:54 +0100
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Hello SuSE folks! My question is primary directed to Mr. Lenz Grimmer
and SuSE developers. But if somebody knows the answer any suggestions
will be appreciated. After I downloaded and compiled 2.2.5 kernel from
SuSE Web Site, I can't use kppp for connection any more. Every time it
gets frozen on "Expecting OK" from modem. The old 2.0.36 kernel works
with kppp perfectly with the same settings. I can use minicom to connect
when I use 2.2.5 kernel but it's not a solution. Why 2.2.5 kernel
performs a such strange things with kppp and the modem? Lenz, did your
developers fix this issue in the oncoming 6.1 SuSE distro? Thanks Alex
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From andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 9 09:12:36 1999
From: andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Bad CPU??
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:12:36 +0100
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lenz Grimmer
To: SuSE Linux Mailing List
Date: 09 April 1999 10:07
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Bad CPU??
>
>Hi,
>
>On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote:
>
>> Is there any definitive way of testing whether a CPU is dying. The
>> last 3 days I had experienced an increase in abnormal crashes. =20
>> Enough to drive me back to Windows just to get something done.
>> Although, that wasnt exactly flawless eithe r. I swapped processors
>> with another computer, and now it seems very stable. The other
>> computer apears to be crashing a little more than normal(it runs 95)
>> now. Is there any way to verfiy it???
>
>Hmm, maybe the little cooling fan gathered too much dust? Is it running at
>all? This sounds like a temperature problem to me.
Or a hard disk problem!
>
>Bye,
> LenZ
>
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From michael.doerner@clear.net.nz Fri Apr 9 09:25:52 1999
From: michael.doerner@clear.net.nz
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] PPP Problems
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:25:52 +1200
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Hello,
I am trying to get my ISP connection running on a SuSE 5.3 based PC which I
have set up recently.
After doing all ISP related settings for suseppp, connecting the (external)
modem with minicom, I am struggling at the moment that I try to check my PPP
connection with the ppp-up script.
When the script wants to send +++ATZ to the modem, nothing happens there,
+++ATZ is only shown on the screen??? But I can do: echo +++ATZ > /dev/modem
and that time the modem shows the proper reaction!?
I also had a successful try with KPPP.
The log file entries are as follows:
--- 1. try without debug:
Apr 9 21:00:26 linux01 kernel: PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel
allocation)
Apr 9 21:00:26 linux01 kernel: PPP Dynamic channel allocation code
copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc.
Apr 9 21:00:26 linux01 kernel: PPP line discipline registered.
Apr 9 21:00:26 linux01 kernel: registered device ppp0
Apr 9 20:00:26 linux01 pppd[3458]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Apr 9 20:01:27 linux01 pppd[3458]: Connect script failed
Apr 9 20:01:27 linux01 pppd[3458]: Exit.
--- end of 1. try; 2. try now with debug option
Apr 9 20:01:39 linux01 pppd[3470]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Apr 9 20:01:39 linux01 chat[3471]: timeout set to 60 seconds
Apr 9 20:01:39 linux01 chat[3471]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
Apr 9 20:01:39 linux01 chat[3471]: abort on (BUSY)
Apr 9 20:01:39 linux01 chat[3471]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
Apr 9 20:01:39 linux01 chat[3471]: abort on (ERROR)
Apr 9 20:01:39 linux01 chat[3471]: send (+++\dATZ^M) <--- somewhere I
read that \d might help with a delay but it doesn't ...
Apr 9 20:01:40 linux01 chat[3471]: expect (OK)
Apr 9 21:02:25 linux01 kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline successfully
unregistered
Apr 9 20:02:40 linux01 chat[3471]: alarm
Apr 9 20:02:40 linux01 pppd[3470]: Connect script failed
Apr 9 20:02:40 linux01 chat[3471]: Failed
Apr 9 20:02:40 linux01 pppd[3470]: Exit.
I found a threat "PPP problem" (see below) from October 1998 in my SuSE
archive which appears to be
exactly the same problem as I just have but I couldn't find the answer for a
fix on the list. (or is the only available fix really "Xisp" which is
mentioned somewhere?
I didn't want to add to much additional tools to my installation. I thought
I can get it running with just the existing SuSE tools?)
Kind regards,
Michael Doerner
P.S.: I also haven't figured out my time settings in the above log file
entries. There are 2 different clocks (?) now after trying to synchronise
with the NT-server's clock by "netdate tcp " ???
> >
> >As mentioned in previous posts, I cannot get my modem to dial and the
> >system to establish a ppp connect. I've got everything setup properly.
> >Now, I find that CHAT won't talk to the modem. Minicom and ECHO >
> >/dev/modem do talk to the modem. Is there something peculiar about
> chat
> >that I must change to get it to work? The ppp-up script uses it and
> all
> >I get are modem commands echoed to tthe screen when I try ppp-up.
> >
> >Harry
> >-
> >
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From im@hem.passagen.se Fri Apr 9 09:48:43 1999
From: im@hem.passagen.se
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 11:48:43 +0200
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I can't get my mp3's to play wiht the right speed.
They run to slow. Not by much, but just enough to be anoying.
I have tried several different versions. x11amp, mpg123 among others.
They ALL play too slow.
I run a "vanilla" 6.0 with 2.2.3 kernel.
Have a PII 266 with 128Mb ram and a sb16pnp.
Tried it on a P133 with 64Mb and a ordinary SB16 card, same thing.
Wav files as well as .au works ok. No problem there. Only the mp3's.
It doesn't matter where they are made. Either windows compressed or
Linux. Both types gives same problem.
(Not that there SHOULD be any difference...)
What could possibly be wrong?
Please help...
/Rikard
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From kester@cwcom.net Fri Apr 9 10:06:32 1999
From: kester@cwcom.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Multi modems
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 11:06:32 +0100
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Doesn't FRAD do this? Look in the kernal modules docs (or in the SuSE
manual), you can apparently double the speed of your access.
k.
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From: Andy Ford
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Multi modems
:
:On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 06:57:56AM -0400, dizzy73(a)connix.com wrote:
:>
:>
:> Hi
:> I was wondering if anyone had information or had been succesful at using
2
:> modems for one dialup connection.
:> I have an internal 56k /dev/ttyS0 identified and in use by wvdial
:> other is an external 56k that was on the w98 box but since Im using
:> ipmasquerading I never use the external.
:> So i moved the external to the linux and set it for /dev/ttys2
:> But I would really like to use 2 modems at once ;->
:> Is this possible? Ive looked thru the modem HOWTOS but it dosent see to
:> be too popular of a subject.
:> any ideas?
:> thanks
:> rob
:>
:> Linux Homepage http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73=
/LBM.htm>
:> S.u.S.E Linux 5.3
:I tried unsuccessfully about a year ago. My ISP gave me a free second
:account to play with just to see if I could do it but to no avail...
:There's a kernel option you need to enable and then you have to compile
:and install the software.
:It's called the ppp-multilink protocol and the web link for the homepage I
:used to use is now dead...
:Good Luck.
:Andy
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From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Fri Apr 9 11:01:01 1999
From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Free Type?
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:01:01 +0100
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Hello
On 8 Apr 99, at 11:13, Michael Johnson wrote:
> Take a look at the XFSTT package. It works great and is fairly easy to
> install. Make sure you read the docs though cause there's a few things
> you're going to have to do for a working TTFserver once you get done
> building the package.=20
Is there a URL for this or is it on the CDs (6.0).
Thanks
Richard
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0973 682181
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From M.vanOostende@inter.NL.net Fri Apr 9 11:08:47 1999
From: M.vanOostende@inter.NL.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: IBM calls server 'world's fastest'
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:08:47 +0200
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I'm pretty new to this list, so I'm not sure whether is has already
passed, but I read that IBM will be supporting linux a lot in the
future. They made deals with the large distributors about training and
certification. Also, the Netfinity 3k, 5k, 5500, P43 en P50 (H70 not
mentioned here) will be re-engineered to fully support linux. IBM
internal is even using a linux version of Lotus Domino, so hopefully it
will be available soon on the market
Regs,
Marco
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From M.vanOostende@inter.NL.net Fri Apr 9 11:23:41 1999
From: M.vanOostende@inter.NL.net
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Video card
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:23:41 +0200
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Hi All,
I am trying to set up an old box to get running on linux: a Compaq
deskpro 4/66M. Everything goes well for the text-based part of the
setup, it even detects and runs my CPQ/Adaptec 6260 SCSI adapter as an
AD152x :-)
The big problem is getting X to run. Originally, the machine used a
QVision 1024/E card but this is not supported. I got hold of an
undocumented videocard with a Realtek RTG3106 chip but with 1Mb memory,
so this should sort-of work. However, after fiddling with the XF86Config
file for a week or so I cannot get a stable image, the best image i've
seen so far is a screen where the bottom of the screen appears at the
top again and ends halfway the screen. The monitor used is a CPQ 151FS.
Is there anyone out there who uses either the mentioned monitor or video
card? I would appreciate if you want to send me the contents of the
XF86Config file, or any other related info. Also, is there somebody who
has the QVision card working?
Thanx in advance,
Marco
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From neonatus@slo.net Fri Apr 9 12:08:21 1999
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:08:21 +0200
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On 09-Apr-99 R. Johnels wrote:
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> I can't get my mp3's to play wiht the right speed.
> They run to slow. Not by much, but just enough to be anoying.
> I have tried several different versions. x11amp, mpg123 among others.
> They ALL play too slow.
> I run a "vanilla" 6.0 with 2.2.3 kernel.
Hi!
I don't know the answer I only have one more wuestion.
This might be a dumb question but what does the vanilla stand for?
THX in advance
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From Burt_Philip@emc.com Fri Apr 9 12:37:38 1999
From: Burt_Philip@emc.com
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] ATI Rage Fury and SuSE 6.0
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:37:38 -0400
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hi Marshall,
I had problems with the frame buffer device and FBDev X server using
SuSE 6.0 with my Trio3D graphics card. I could get the frame buffer console
to work, but trying to start X would crash with an error message. Is this
the behavior you are seeing?
My solution was to download the source for the 2.2.4 kernel, compile
it (an interesting learning experience), install it, and try X again. This
solved my problems! I think that the old kernel would only run the frame
buffer at 8 bit color depth, but I am not sure.
Good luck!
Phil
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] ATI Rage Fury and SuSE 6.0
I cannot get the ATI Rage Fury to work, I have tried many suggestions
including using the Banshee workaround using the Frame Buffer, but the
Xserver still fails to starts, In the directions it does say that it was
using Xfree 3.3.2, and SusE comes with 3.3.3.
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From Burt_Philip@emc.com Fri Apr 9 12:42:02 1999
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] ppp daemon killed
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:42:02 -0400
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hi,
Check the permissions of pppd. You should make sure that your user
has execute permission. Other people have said that it should have setuid
permission, but I don't quite understand what this means, or how to make it
so. chmod a+x seemed to work for me. Beware that Yast will try to set the
permissions back if you do not change /etc/permissions.conf (I think that is
what the file is).
later,
phil
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hey all
my ppp daemon dies, exit code 1, when I use wvdial to connect. my modem
dials, then the daemon dies. what am I=20
missing? (I have suseppp set up wrong, could the settings hose things up?)
-tf
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From im@hem.passagen.se Fri Apr 9 13:09:00 1999
From: im@hem.passagen.se
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:09:00 +0200
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vanilla=3D plain. Without any extra features, gadgets or stuffing...
Ie. Just a standard instalation...
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From ideasco@csi.com Fri Apr 9 13:37:00 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] PCMCIA
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 09:37:00 -0400
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I'm trying to get PCMCIA to work on my laptop, for using my LAN and modem
cards. I have loaded the PCMCIA files from the CD-ROM using YAST, but am
not sure what to do next. I'm not sure what/how/when to load the card
drivers, etc. I understand that the PCMCIA referred to in the kernel is
used to access a PCMCIA-based CD-ROM for initial loading. I have a built-in
SCSI port, so don't need that functionality.
Any advise would be appreciated.
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From e.maryniak@pobox.com Fri Apr 9 14:30:18 1999
From: e.maryniak@pobox.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Summary: Selecting printer drivers for printers (was:
Re: [SuSE Linux] Best driver for HP DeskJet 600 in YaST?)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:30:18 +0200
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990409163018.00915be0@ip005.niwi.knaw.nl>
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Talking to myself :-)
For HP printers:
http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi?make=3DHP>
Printers in general:
http://www.pican=
te.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi>
Eric.
At 01:36 PM 1999-04-04 +0200, Eric Maryniak wrote:
>
>When configuring the printer with YaST for a HP DeskJet, only these models
>are listed:
>
> djet500 deskjet cdeskjet cdjmono cdjcolor cdj500 cdj550 djet500c dnj650c h=
pdj
>
>Which one is best suited for the 600?
>The 600 has a best modus of 600x600dpi, a normal modus of 600x300dpi and _ca=
n_
>print in color 300x300dpi.
>Thanx for any advise, kind regards, Eric Maryniak
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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Fri Apr 9 15:11:37 1999
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP?
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:11:37 +0200
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Hi all!;
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Johannes Erdfelt wrote:
>=20
> On Thu, Apr 08, 1999, Joop Boonen wrote:
> > If you have a 486/33Mhz. You probably only have ISA or ISA and VESA local
> > bus. That means that either of the video cards will fit. I don't think an=
yone
> > still produces ISA video cards.
> >=20
> > It's probably not nice to say. But it's the only, you will have to buy
> > another PC to use a new video card.
>=20
> There is a chance that he may have PCI in his system. Definately does
> not have AGP tho.
>=20
> Trying running this command:
>=20
> cat /proc/pci
>=20
> If you get a bunch of lines, then you have PCI in his system.
When I use this command this is what I get:
Opus:/root # cat /proc/pci
PCI devices found:
Does this mean that I have PCI and no devices or that there is no PCI at
all?
TIA!
J
I
M
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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Fri Apr 9 15:21:57 1999
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP?
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:21:57 +0200
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Joop Boonen wrote:
> Dear Jim,
>=20
> I don't know the main reason why you want to replace the video card. Is the=
card
> that is in the machine right now broken. If so you will be able to get cheap
> replacements at a second hand computer shop.
Hi Joop;
No my card works fine. The reason is that it has only 512k mem with 256
colors. I wanted to up this as far as possible, but it seems that the only
ISA card I can find has 1mb. I don't think it's worth changing. The card I
use now makes it almost impossible to use Gimp for example.=20
Several times people on the list have said I should get a new computer.
This I will do but in 2-3 years. But even if I was to get a new one today
I would still want to upgrade this one as much as possible.=20
BTW, I want to thank everyone on the list for helping me. I know software
(that's why I use Linux :)), but all this new hardware is confusing.
Later!
J
I
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From ksaj@xoommail.com Fri Apr 9 15:26:13 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:26:13 -0700
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> I believe this is the most FATAL flaw of Linux(and other Unices) as it sta=
rts
> to take on Windows for the desktop. People do not want hear that they will
> have to download an rpm for their particular distro, and they shouldn't ha=
ve
> to. One rpm for one program. I realize there are differences(libc5 and
> glibc) right now, but that will change. I just can't believe people wont =
agree
> on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . =20
Since SCO is the only Unix with the legal rights to use the name "Unix", mayb=
e we=20
should use *their* directory structure exclusively.
Of course, I bet you think that is hogwash (Don't worry... so do I). But thi=
s is=20
essentially the reason no one can agree on directory structures -- whose do w=
e=20
use? Who gets the monopoly on how our Linux boxes are set up?
I see this as a Linux strength... not a FATAL flaw. We could get stuck with =
a=20
directory structure that looks like Solaris!
The incompatibilities between RPMs have more to do with how installed package=
s are=20
cataloged under each Linux. SuSE RPMs don't have a way of checking on a Redh=
at=20
machine if the dependancies are met (and vice versa). I guess that distribut=
ions=20
using RPM archives should soon attempt to agree on how packages are maintaine=
d in=20
the Installed database so it is possible to cross packages and have the=20
dependancies work appropriately.
They call them growing pains.
Laters,
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From karl.stas@rug.ac.be Fri Apr 9 16:23:37 1999
From: karl.stas@rug.ac.be
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Num Lock in KDE
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 18:23:37 +0200
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I specified in the rc.config file of my SuSE Linux that Num Lock has to be
activated at bootup. But when I then launch KDE, Num Lock is disactivated
again. How can I avoid this?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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From mqf090@lulu.acns.nwu.edu Fri Apr 9 17:29:53 1999
From: mqf090@lulu.acns.nwu.edu
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] About 2.2.5 kernel in SuSE 6.1 and Kppp problem.
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:29:53 -0500
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Another issue which I'd like to point out is why the PPP option is not
compiled into the kernel as a default option. =20
Then there's the issue of why YaST needs to change permissions to kppp,
pppd and delete the resolv.conf file everytime you run it w/c results in a
"user" not being able to do dial-outs. Isn't this rather strange
considering that it is always impressed upon users not to run as "root"
except when necessary?
Here's my stupid question -- Is there something also which checks whether
there were changes done to /etc/permissions such that YaST will chnage it
back to the original?
-----------------------------------
At 10:06 AM 4/9/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Hello SuSE folks! My question is primary directed to Mr. Lenz Grimmer
>and SuSE developers. But if somebody knows the answer any suggestions
>will be appreciated. After I downloaded and compiled 2.2.5 kernel from
>SuSE Web Site, I can't use kppp for connection any more. Every time it
>gets frozen on "Expecting OK" from modem. The old 2.0.36 kernel works
>with kppp perfectly with the same settings. I can use minicom to connect
>when I use 2.2.5 kernel but it's not a solution. Why 2.2.5 kernel
>performs a such strange things with kppp and the modem? Lenz, did your
>developers fix this issue in the oncoming 6.1 SuSE distro? Thanks Alex
>=20
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From kepe@home.com Fri Apr 9 17:45:29 1999
From: kepe@home.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] pre-alpha alpha!
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:45:29 -0500
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Well, there now a ftp server holding the beta alpha 6.0.
I have tried to install from the site, but with no
results. Do you guys at SuSE know when the gates will
be open for a look-see at 6.0 alpha? I am just itching
to give it a go...err, test it.
Oh, btw the site is ftp.space4u.com/pub/SuSE/
The docs are in German only, but I managed to decipher
milo, boot, and root disks out of them.
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 9 18:24:05 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PPP has me flummoxed!
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 20:24:05 +0200
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"McCullough, Mike" wrote:
>=20
> All,
>=20
> Thank you very for the help on getting my PPP up and running. "hhv" and
> "dizzy" gave me some great, detailed help and it's been running like a
> charm ever since.
Well, pleased to hear that.
> Name: WINMAIL.DAT
> WINMAIL.DAT Type: APPLICATION/X-TNEF
> Encoding: BASE64
What's that? I haven't been able to read that attachment?
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From chjo@tripnet.se Fri Apr 9 18:39:43 1999
From: chjo@tripnet.se
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Free Type?
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 20:39:43 +0200
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Richard wrote:
>=20
> Hello
>=20
> On 8 Apr 99, at 11:13, Michael Johnson wrote:
>=20
> > Take a look at the XFSTT package. It works great and is fairly easy to
> > install. Make sure you read the docs though cause there's a few things
> > you're going to have to do for a working TTFserver once you get done
> > building the package.
>=20
> Is there a URL for this or is it on the CDs (6.0).
You can download it at http://metalab.u=
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From djcroark@ssc.net.au Fri Apr 9 18:48:46 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] ISDN and SUSE
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:48:46 +1000
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Can someone tell me what is involved in setting up SUSE to have a permanent
ISDN connection to the internet including a rough outline of the hardware I
may need, I live in Australia, is there anyone in Aus that has acheieved
this kind of thing
Thanks in advance,
Damien Croarken
djcroark(a)ssc.net.au
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From maccer98_@yahoo.com Fri Apr 9 19:06:16 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] IP Chain setup / rules
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:06:16 -0700
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I am running SUSE 5.3 with kernel 2.2.3. I am having a problem getting
ipchains running with this setup [ipchains 1.3.8].
I have this setup: linux box with two NICs (one working now eth0, the
other same type found on bootstrap eth1), a 5 port HUB and a static IP
to a cable modem.
One has read the requisite ipchains documentation but I am still
semi-confused how to tackle this.
Any ideas would certainly be appreciated.
Thanx for your time.
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From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Fri Apr 9 19:23:01 1999
From: k01164@ko.sdu.dk
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WP 8.0 and Netware Printer
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:23:01 +0200
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Dennis Soper wrote:
>=20
> Hi all,
>=20
> I've got my SuSE 6.0 box talking quite happily to and printing from=20
> my Netware servers. Now, is there any way I can print a=20
> WordPerfect 8.0 document; i.e., is there some sort of print to file=20
> feature that WP has to do this, or is there any other way. Or do I=20
> have to plug one of those crummy HP DeskJets into my box?
A long way down the list of printers in WP8, there are two printers,
you might find useful... They are called something like
print through postscript and print through ascii. (Can't check the
exact names right now) They tell WP8 to send either raw text or
postscript through the normal printer spooling system on your box.
Hope this helps
Ole
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From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Fri Apr 9 19:53:32 1999
From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Star Office Mail Config (with args apologies)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 20:53:32 +0100
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Hi
Sorry to ask a question about Star Office (yet again).
I've configured most of it and today I tried for the mail option in=20
Star Office. I got the following error message ..... "mail - an=20
outbox is required to perform this action. Create an outbox, then=20
try again".
I know that I can create a file anywhere which will be either a=20
mailbox or an outbox. What I'm not sure about is .... do I have to=20
put it in a predefined place or can I just invent one ? Do I have to=20
point Star Office at the mail/outbox when I have created it ?
There's a lot of sanity creeping into my linux box which is (mostly) =
unexplainable. Only problem I have now is that my 2.5.5 kernel has=20
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locally though :-)
Thank you
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From paulw@uswestmail.net Fri Apr 9 20:16:36 1999
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Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:16:36 -0700
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How do I get the clock to work? I would like it on the panel.
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From paulw@uswestmail.net Fri Apr 9 20:19:19 1999
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How do I get KVIRC to save my settings? I am logged in as root. When I exit K=
VIRC it says it cant write to the kvi.alias.conf and kvi.event.conf files.
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 9 20:38:36 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] pre-alpha alpha!
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 22:38:36 +0200
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Danny Kephart wrote:
>=20
> Well, there now a ftp server holding the beta alpha 6.0.
Hey, what have you been doing the last months? 6.0 is outdated.
We are waiting for 6.1
Henning
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From Gleth@tinet.ie Fri Apr 9 20:47:39 1999
From: Gleth@tinet.ie
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:47:39 +0100
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Date sent: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 11:48:43 +0200
From: "R. Johnels"
To: SuSE Chatlist
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0
> I can't get my mp3's to play wiht the right speed.
> They run to slow. Not by much, but just enough to be anoying.
> I have tried several different versions. x11amp, mpg123 among others.
Have you tried calling mpg123 with -2 or -4 (and possibly -m)?=20
I use mpg123 on my SparcStation LX, which is a little old and=20
normally play mp3's by using mpg123 -2m this plays=20
the mp3 at a lesser quality (22MHz instead of 44MHz) but it means=20
I get no slowdown or skipping, which happens if I try to play mp3s=20
normally. (the m is for mono instead of stereo, which helps as I use=20
the built-in speaker)
Hope this helps,
Jim.
Have Fun,
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From djb@redhat.com Fri Apr 9 21:02:17 1999
From: djb@redhat.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:02:17 -0400
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> >> on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . =20
> =20
> > http://www.linuxbase.org>
>=20
> You must be joking, Donnie. Any perusal of the specs available at
> linuxbase.org will show that almost nothing is actually on 'paper'.
>=20
> Nowhere can I find or do I hear of any evidence that points to a
> really active LBP committee.
Why don't you join the mailing lists and see for yourself. I'm there
and I post. SuSE folks are there and they post. Same with lots of
others.
> Even if the committee were active and even if agreement could be
> reached soon are the distro's really going to implement this
> blueprint.
If agreement is reached, yes, I believe folks will implement it. You
are more than skeptical, though, which isn't really fair.
> If they all do agree unanimously to implement what is the timetable.
Unsure. What is the timetable on *any* open source project? I've
never seen one for the kernel, XFree86, or anything. This is yet another
one.
> Nowhere, from none of the parties concerned, do I get any indication
> of the urgency of this project or real commitment to it.=20
Then scream at your vendor, not me.
> I hope I am wrong but I think that the (hidden) interests of all parties
> concerned are not moving in the direction of a LB. And that is not good.
That's certainly one opinion. I do not share it, however.
This group is led by the same person who leads the FHS. It has been
very successful. I have no reason to believe the LSB won't be at=20
least that successful, if not more. These things don't happen overnight,
however. If you want it to move faster then *join* in and get some
things done. That's how this open source thing works. Don't bitch
at me because your timetables aren't being met.
--Donnie
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 9 21:11:46 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCMCIA
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 23:11:46 +0200
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"Stanley C. Rogacki" wrote:
Please have a look at the mailing list archive. There have been several
threads WRT within the last two weeks.=20
I have answered several questions myself. If you don't find
what you are looking for, tell me and I'll try to find the
Info again
At a starting point you could use the PCMCIA-mini-Howto it should
be on you own machine, I think /usr/doc/howto/ or at
ftp://metalab=
.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/PCMCIA-HOWTO>.
It's also available in html there.
This HOWTO contains nearly twenty (IIRC) links to further
Info and advice.
Henning
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From stevep@bash.linux-shell.net Fri Apr 9 21:29:19 1999
From: stevep@bash.linux-shell.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Ethernet - pppd problems
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:29:19 -0400
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Mr. Error,
I did not see anyone reply to this, so here's my stab...
I am fairly sure your problem is due to a misconfigured /etc/resolv.conf
file. IOW, DNS is messed up and telnet is timing out.=20
I'm at work so I can't look at my box, but try putting=20
earch
nameserver
nameserver
in the file and see what happens.=20
I had this exact problem years ago but the tiny details escape me.=20
HTH and have a good day! :-)
Steve.
------------------------------------
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Global Marine Drilling Co.
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Read Error wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Hi,
> I have a problem with a local ethernet network when using the pppd. When th=
e pppd is down I can telnet from the local machines ok and it gets the login =
prompt normally. But when I have the pppd connected to my ISP it seems the te=
lnet session "hangs" for up to a minute then after that it logs in normally. =
I haven't added any hardware or changed the systen in any way. This problem s=
tarted occuring a few weeks ago and I can't figure out what's causing it. I'm=
using SuSE 5.3. Any information or help would be greatly appreciated. Many T=
hanks...
>=20
>=20
> Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere!=20
> ZDNet Mail - http://www.zdnetmail.com>
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From creimer@rahul.net Fri Apr 9 21:55:41 1999
From: creimer@rahul.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] win.dat. was: PPP has me flummoxed!
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:55:41 -0700
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>Hmm. Maybe I can configure my netscape to also append such nice useless
>stuff to every mail I write. Oh, yes, what about appending a tarball
>of my /tmp dir?
That wouldn't be advisable. I had a co-worker who made a mistake of sending
a 36MB core dump file to an email list rather than directly to his
supervisor. About 50 people got this file, preventing them from downloading
their email, caused the email server to crash big time for two when all the
disk space disappeared, the system administrator had to manually delete each
and every email with the attachment, and my coworker had apologize profusely
to everyone for a couple of weeks. The only bright spot out of this little
disaster was that system administrator was able to get emergency approval to
buy a new 30GB RAID subsystem that he's been trying to get for several
months. After all, it only takes one stupid programmer to crash the email
server, and whole a bunch of stupid programmers can make it happen more
often.
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From gregt@nadel.com Fri Apr 9 22:25:56 1999
From: gregt@nadel.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] pre-alpha alpha!
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:25:56 -0700
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On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, hhv wrote:
>=20
> Danny Kephart wrote:
> >=20
> > Well, there now a ftp server holding the beta alpha 6.0.
>=20
> Hey, what have you been doing the last months? 6.0 is outdated.
> We are waiting for 6.1
For alpha? There hasn't even been a 6.0 for alpha has there? But would
SuSE just go ahead and release the alpha version as 6.1 along with the
English Intel 6.1?
Greg
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 9 22:31:01 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] pre-alpha alpha!
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 00:31:01 +0200
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Danny Kephart wrote:
>=20
> On 09-Apr-99 hhv wrote:
> >
> > Danny Kephart wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, there now a ftp server holding the beta alpha 6.0.
> ^^^^^
> ALPHA not i386. And the docs mentioned something about it being
> 6.0. I guess I should have typed "AXP" instead of 6.0.
Oh, yes, sorry for my ignorance. I nearly fogot that there's
something outside the Intel PC universe.
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From jlkreps@navix.net Fri Apr 9 22:35:16 1999
From: jlkreps@navix.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:35:16 -0500
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Kester Clegg wrote:
>=20
> I think very little, *but* it does miff me a bit when Yast overwrites
> certain files (or rather, SuSEconfig does) everytime you run it; e.g. kdmrc,
> ppp stuff... and there are many ocassions when running every update tool
> (such as those for teTeX) is irratatingly slow. However, I do like the idea
> of a central rc.config file with variables you can set which then run
> scripts as you enter a particular run level. IMHO, this is a nice feature
> once you get the hang of it.
> k.
Look in /etc/permissions
It is where YaST looks to determine what permissions to give certian
files. Change pppd and the others to give them the permission values
you wish YaST to give them when it runs.
JLK
Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is
right.
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From dsoper@efn.org Fri Apr 9 22:37:27 1999
From: dsoper@efn.org
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WinHEC'99: MS open to open source for Windows?!!
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:37:27 -0700
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On 8 Apr 99, at 21:16, Fred A. Miller wrote:
>=20
> http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-04/lw-0=
4-microsoft.html?04-07>
Source code as comedy-- what a concept....
Cheers,
Dennis
"Custard pies are a sort of esperanto: a universal language."=20
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From michael@merrittpop.com Fri Apr 9 22:42:37 1999
From: michael@merrittpop.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] new kernal
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:42:37 -0500
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I would and could, but really others could do better than could I. For
instance, the Linux Kernel HOW-TO got me through my first try when I was
cutting my teeth on Linux. I'm sure you'll find it helpful as well.=20
Also, see the README file in the kernel archive. I'd suggest printing
it and keeping it handy. Here is the HOW-TO:
ftp://metalab=
.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO>
tf wrote:
>=20
> hey all
>=20
> I'm in the process of downloading the 2.2.5 kernal from the suse ftp site. =
I tried to install 2.2.3 with no success.
> Guess I don't know enough about what I'm doing. Anyway, the file is pretty=
big, so i'm assuming its not a patch but
> the whole thing.
>=20
> I don't suppose anyone feels like walking me through this, do they?
>=20
> thanks
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> -tf
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 10 00:20:32 1999
From: northsky@ix.netcom.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste"
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 20:20:32 -0400
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On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, speng wrote:
> Does any one know how to do, so that I can use mouse to "COPY and
> PASTE" like
> in Unix X-window. I am using SuSE 6.0 and a 3-button mouse.
Umm... are you talking about when you are *in* X? Since you seem to know
about this, do it just like you did in "Unix X-window". If you're talking
about on the console, then make sure you have gpm installed and running,
then RTFM.
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sat Apr 10 00:31:30 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] new kernal
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:31:30 +0200
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Michael Merritt wrote:
>=20
> I would and could, but really others could do better than could I. For
> instance, the Linux Kernel HOW-TO got me through my first try when I was
> cutting my teeth on Linux. I'm sure you'll find it helpful as well.
> Also, see the README file in the kernel archive. I'd suggest printing
> it and keeping it handy. Here is the HOW-TO:
>=20
> ftp://metalab=
.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO>
These are pretty old, but nevertheless it's always a good idea to
read them. The README etc in the top level source directory are
also worth reading.=20
And there's lots of docs in the Documentation/ subdirectory.=20
Especially the Changes file, which informs about
minimal software requirements for compiling the kernel.
In the scripts/ directory ther a script ver_linux, which should
also be used. (An enhanced version is available at
http://hhv.de/projects/ve=
r-linux/usr/bin/ver-linux> )
And if all is ok do
make menuconfig
make dep clean bzlilo modules modules_install
and you should be done.
In case of problems post error messages so that people can see
what has happened and try to help.
Henning
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sat Apr 10 01:28:12 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste"
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 03:28:12 +0200
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speng wrote:
>=20
> Hi
>=20
> Does any one know how to do, so that I can use mouse to "COPY and
> PASTE" like
> in Unix X-window. I am using SuSE 6.0 and a 3-button mouse.
At the VGA console it's just the same. Left Button marks, right
button pastes.
Additionally, clicking the left button marks a whole word,
double-clicking the whole line.
There are other nice tricks, too. You can even e.g. reboot
your machine or switch consoles using the mouse.
Read the man page gpm for this.
Henning
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From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 10 02:47:45 1999
From: jlkreps@navix.net
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Postgres Client front end...
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:47:45 -0500
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When I first installed 5.3 last year I discovered that Postgres was
automatically installed. While exploring MySQL I deleted Postgres, the
Postgres user account and deamon, and all other traces. Later on, I
wanted to reinstall Postgres but YaST couldn't until I manually added
the Postgres account and group. Then I had to manually setup the
environmental variables and the fire the deamon in the boot script.=20
When I installed pgaccess it ran from KDE just fine. After I upgraded
to 6.0 I deleted it again to make room for Oracle, and later Sybase, for
testing purposes.
I decided to return to postgres so I deleted Sybase and downloaded
postgres 6.4.2 and pgaccess-0.96. I installed the source for postgress
and compiled and installed it without problems. I set up the
environmental variables, created a user in postress called jerry with
all rights. Postgres is started, as postgres, via the default "nohup
postmaster > server.log 2>&1 &" and it monitors the default port 5432
nicely. I have my hostname, JLKreps, in hba_conf as 127.0.0.2 and
trusted. While logged into Linux as jerry I can "psql template1" (from
an xterm of KDE) and I am in. I can do everything in the tutorial while
in psql. The 'env' command shows my hostname to be JLKreps.=20
HERE IS MY PROBLEM: I have installed both pgaccess and mpsql. They
both come up on KDE but neither can access postgress. They both respond
with "Connection to database failed... are you sure posgress is
connected TCP/IP(with -i) on port 5432?"
It's as if KDE doesn't see the ":/usr/local/pgsql/bin" in PATH, but it's
xterm's do. I know what you are thinking: calling "wish -f
pgaccess.tcl" from an xterm doesn't work either, even though "env" shows
the correct PATH. Anyone run into this?
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From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Sat Apr 10 03:16:29 1999
From: chuckwm_98@yahoo.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 20:16:29 -0700
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I would like to apologize for stirring the water here.
I never meant for RedHat or anyone else to get
slammed. I was stupidly voicing my opinion before
doing my homework...I know it takes time for things to
change. Thanks for pointin me to the site Donnie. I
hope this list can return to it's normal topic.=20
Perhaps this thread would be best put to sleep. =20
Sorry again guys...Can't we all just get along ;)
--- djb(a)redhat.com wrote:
>=20
>=20
> > >> on things like directory structures, library
> locations, etc. . =20
> > =20
> > > http://www.linuxbase.org>
> >=20
> > You must be joking, Donnie. Any perusal of the
> specs available at
> > linuxbase.org will show that almost nothing is
> actually on 'paper'.
> >=20
> > Nowhere can I find or do I hear of any evidence
> that points to a
> > really active LBP committee.
>=20
> Why don't you join the mailing lists and see for
> yourself. I'm there
> and I post. SuSE folks are there and they post.=20
> Same with lots of
> others.
>=20
> > Even if the committee were active and even if
> agreement could be
> > reached soon are the distro's really going to
> implement this
> > blueprint.
>=20
> If agreement is reached, yes, I believe folks will
> implement it. You
> are more than skeptical, though, which isn't really
> fair.
>=20
> > If they all do agree unanimously to implement what
> is the timetable.
>=20
> Unsure. What is the timetable on *any* open source
> project? I've
> never seen one for the kernel, XFree86, or anything.
> This is yet another
> one.
>=20
> > Nowhere, from none of the parties concerned, do I
> get any indication
> > of the urgency of this project or real commitment
> to it.=20
>=20
> Then scream at your vendor, not me.
>=20
> > I hope I am wrong but I think that the (hidden)
> interests of all parties
> > concerned are not moving in the direction of a LB.
> And that is not good.
>=20
> That's certainly one opinion. I do not share it,
> however.
>=20
> This group is led by the same person who leads the
> FHS. It has been
> very successful. I have no reason to believe the
> LSB won't be at=20
> least that successful, if not more. These things
> don't happen overnight,
> however. If you want it to move faster then *join*
> in and get some
> things done. That's how this open source thing
> works. Don't bitch
> at me because your timetables aren't being met.
>=20
>=20
> --Donnie
>=20
> --
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> djb(a)redhat.com "Bah."
> Challenge Diversity. Ignore People. Live Life.=20
> Use Linux. 879. V.=20
> The more you cry, the less you'll
> pee.
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From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Apr 10 03:54:23 1999
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From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Apr 10 05:01:02 1999
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From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr 10 05:11:10 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Epson Color 800 under SuSE 6.0 ?
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Well I'm giving up on my new HP 695C printer, but how about
if I trade with my wife for her Epson 800, will it work ?
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From espiritudelvino@hotmail.com Sat Apr 10 06:13:54 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0
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that happened to me a while ago, but under windows95.=20
The problem was that my video resolution was too high, I had=20
800x600 truecolor (24 bit), I changed it to 16 bit color and the mp3=20
worked just fine.... maybe thats the same problem under linux...
dont know what exactly caused this problem, but it color thing worked!
anyone knows why that happened?
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From ljackson@techlinks.com Sat Apr 10 06:15:30 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste"
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 23:15:30 -0700
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1. Edit your /etc/XF86Config
2. Navigate to your "Pointer" section.
3. Add the item "Emulate3Buttons" (no quotes)
4. Restart X
Lester
Techlinks Inc. / Livebandwidth.com
On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote:
>=20
> On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, speng wrote:
> > Does any one know how to do, so that I can use mouse to "COPY and
> > PASTE" like
> > in Unix X-window. I am using SuSE 6.0 and a 3-button mouse.
>=20
> Umm... are you talking about when you are *in* X? Since you seem to know
> about this, do it just like you did in "Unix X-window". If you're talking
> about on the console, then make sure you have gpm installed and running,
> then RTFM.
>=20
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From brauki@cityweb.de Sat Apr 10 08:48:19 1999
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Hi,
got a problem with my locally installed SDB: I cannot search anymore.
For every request, I get a return like:
/usr/lib/sdb/cgi-bin/sdb-suche-e: can't open=20
'/usr/doc//doc/support-db/sdb_e/keylist.txt': No such file or directory
^^^^^^^^
No articles found for=20
LPD
I can see, the problem is were my marks are, but I do not now which file
to alter.
J=C3=BCrgen
--=20
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From jont@ii.uib.no Sat Apr 10 09:35:37 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat [off topic]
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:35:37 +0200
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On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Karsten Johansson wrote:
> Since SCO is the only Unix with the legal rights to use the name "Unix", ma=
ybe we=20
> should use *their* directory structure exclusively.
I don't think this is correct.
SCO now owns the USL (Unix Systems Laboratories) which they purchased from
Novell. This in turn means that SCO owns the SystemV code.
If you want to use sysV code in your OS, you'll have to license it from
SCO.
Unix, however, is a registered trademark of The Open Group
(www.opengroup.org).
Every OS that gets a Unix95 or UNIX98 brand from the Open Group, are
entitled to use "Unix" as part of their product name.
That's why Compaq can name their OS "Tru64 Unix".
To read more about the Unix brand and the Single Unix Specification,
take a look at this site:
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| Department of Informatics | Jon.Utne(a)mi.uib.no |
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| NORWAY | |
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From reaston@stny.rr.com Sat Apr 10 09:46:25 1999
From: reaston@stny.rr.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste"
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 05:46:25 -0400
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I guess this is a good place for me to clear up something about=20
SaX and/or X that I've never understood. If I have a 3-button=20
mouse (as I do) why would I want to *emulate* three buttons when=20
I have all three already? I recall having to do just that in=20
one case and would have thought that setting was only for 2-
button mice (so you can press both buttons to emulate the middle=20
button.) Or maybe my memory is wrong, but it seems that way to=20
me.
-Bob
On 9 Apr 99, at 23:15, ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote:
>=20
> 1. Edit your /etc/XF86Config
>=20
> 2. Navigate to your "Pointer" section.
>=20
> 3. Add the item "Emulate3Buttons" (no quotes)
>=20
> 4. Restart X
>=20
>=20
> Lester
> Techlinks Inc. / Livebandwidth.com
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, speng wrote:
> > > Does any one know how to do, so that I can use mouse to "COPY and
> > > PASTE" like in Unix X-window. I am using SuSE 6.0 and a 3-button
> > > mouse.
> >=20
> > Umm... are you talking about when you are *in* X? Since you seem to know
> > about this, do it just like you did in "Unix X-window". If you're
> > talking about on the console, then make sure you have gpm installed and
> > running, then RTFM.
> >=20
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > Ewan Dunbar
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at
> > http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index=
.html>
> > ------------------------------------------------
> >=20
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From dizzy73@connix.com Sat Apr 10 10:04:26 1999
From: dizzy73@connix.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] g++ ... or what's the problem here?
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 06:04:26 -0400
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Michael Doerner wrote:
> Hello,
> I am trying to install wvdial which was one of the recommendations for my
> PPP not working under SuSE 5.3.
> I downloaded wvdial and I read the instructions for compile/make and the
> requirements.
>
> When I start make it comes up the following error message:
>
> g++ $_R_CXXFLAGS - c base64.cc
> /bin/sh: g++: command not found
>
1) To be able to compile the source in SuSE 5.3
youll first need to start yast and install gpp which is a C++ compiler its
in the development section of packages.
yast
choose and install packages>change create configuration>development>gpp GNU C=
++
compiler
F-10 >save configuration>load configuration>start installion
Then get the source for WvDial and simply follow the read me
1) To be able to compile the source in SuSE 5.3
youll first need to start yast and install gpp which is a C++ compiler its
in the development section of packages.
yast
choose and install packages>change create configuration>development>gpp GNU C=
++
compiler
F-10 >save configuration>load configuration>start installion
Then get the source for WvDial and simply follow the read me
rob
Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB=
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From richwill@innotts.co.uk Sat Apr 10 10:10:14 1999
From: richwill@innotts.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] qt libraries - newbie
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:10:14 +0100
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Hi all,
I am trying to run ./configure on several programs I have downloaded, but I
get an error saying that it can't find the qt 1.3 libraries. I've had a
look in /usr/X11R6/lib and there is a load of qt stuff there.
questions:
1) What exactly is a qt library?
2) Do I have to point to it in a PATH variable somewhere?
3) How can I tell if it's the 1.3 version that I have got?
Please forgive my terminal ignorance but I am still at the bottom of a very
steep learning curve in Linux and I don't really get what's happening with
all of these different libraries.
Dazed and confused
Richard Williamson
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From brauki@cityweb.de Sat Apr 10 10:18:42 1999
From: brauki@cityweb.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: local SDB not working
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:18:42 +0200
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Juergen Braukmann wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> got a problem with my locally installed SDB: I cannot search anymore.
> For every request, I get a return like:
>=20
> /usr/lib/sdb/cgi-bin/sdb-suche-e: can't open
> '/usr/doc//doc/support-db/sdb_e/keylist.txt': No such file or directory
> ^^^^^^^^
> No articles found for
>=20
> LPD
>=20
> I can see, the problem is were my marks are, but I do not now which file
> to alter.
>=20
> J=C3=BCrgen
well, I =C5=BDve found a solution. I changed a path
/usr/lib/sdb/cgi-bin/sdb-suche-e, though this script should autodetect
the path somehow....
Juergen
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From reaston@stny.rr.com Sat Apr 10 10:19:07 1999
From: reaston@stny.rr.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] IBM, Linux and WinModems (ie: MWAVE modems)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 06:19:07 -0400
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Hey! Since IBM has announced that they will be supporting Linux=20
does that mean that there's hope for seeing source code drivers=20
or binary support for MWAVE-based modems with DSVD capability?
Is there any non-WinModem on the market with DSVD capability?
What 56K modem is recommended that has all the voicemail support=20
under Linux?
-Bob=20
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From jont@ii.uib.no Sat Apr 10 11:31:43 1999
From: jont@ii.uib.no
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:31:43 +0200
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When will SuSE jump to glibc2.1? Seems like RH an Debian both are going
for 2.1 now, and it'll be pretty difficult to port applications "the easy=20
way" from Debian/RH to SuSE when all new versions of applications need
glibc2.1.
Another thing that SuSE have to upgrade soon is Sendmail. 8.8.8 is just
too old, and it relays spam by default (as has been mentioned before on
this list)! An alternative to sendmail would be Exim, which is very good.
Are there any plans to port dia >=3D0.40 to SuSE? It would be nice to have
an application to draw UML diagrams under SuSE. I now use dia 0.20 from
Debian under SuSE (newer versions require glibc2.1 ;-) ) and it's a good
start...
I could also really need the new UNIX98 compliant ps (for my scripts)
and a new version of mount (2.9i?) that can read Sun style automount
maps.
Well, what do you say, Lenz? Any hope for me?
TIA
---J.T.U.
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(o o)
/=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D\
| Jon Trygve Utne |e-mail: jont(a)ii.uib.no |
| Department of Informatics | Jon.Utne(a)mi.uib.no |
| University of Bergen | Jon.Utne(a)student.uib.no |
| NORWAY | |
| Tlf: |"Smith & Wesson: The original|=20
| Home: +47 55 13 06 13 | point and click interface" |
| Work: +47 55 58 40 39 | |
| URL: http://www.ii.uib.no/~jont> | =
|
| .oooO |
| ( ) Oooo. |
\=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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From kukuk@suse.de Sat Apr 10 12:17:18 1999
From: kukuk@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:17:18 +0200
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Hello,
On Sat, Apr 10, Jon Trygve Utne wrote:
>=20
>=20
> When will SuSE jump to glibc2.1? Seems like RH an Debian both are going
> for 2.1 now, and it'll be pretty difficult to port applications "the easy=20
> way" from Debian/RH to SuSE when all new versions of applications need
> glibc2.1.
We have some big problems: StarOffice, Applixware, parts of Netscape, Insure++
and a lot of more commercial programs doesn't run with glibc 2.1, because
they use internal functions from glibc 2.0 or ever worser, from ld-linux.so.2.
This internal functions doesn't longer exist. glibc 2.1 doesn't export
them any longer (could be changed, if the internal interface of that function
hasn't changed), or the function does not longer exist (ld-linux.so.2 was=20
rewritten).
Don't know how Debian and RedHat plan to solve this. For one week, they
hadn't solved it.
>=20
> Another thing that SuSE have to upgrade soon is Sendmail. 8.8.8 is just
> too old, and it relays spam by default (as has been mentioned before on
> this list)! An alternative to sendmail would be Exim, which is very good.
SuSE Linux 6.1 has sendmail 8.9.3.
>=20
> Are there any plans to port dia >=3D0.40 to SuSE? It would be nice to have
> an application to draw UML diagrams under SuSE. I now use dia 0.20 from
> Debian under SuSE (newer versions require glibc2.1 ;-) ) and it's a good
> start...
I hope SuSE Linux 6.2 will work with glibc 2.1.=20
>=20
> I could also really need the new UNIX98 compliant ps (for my scripts)
> and a new version of mount (2.9i?) that can read Sun style automount
> maps.
Do you mean procps 2.0 ? To many changes in the parameters.=20
SuSE Linux 6.1 has mount 2.9i.
> Well, what do you say, Lenz? Any hope for me?
SuSE has more people then only Lenz ;-)
--=20
Thorsten Kukuk http://www.suse.de/~kukuk/> kukuk(a)sus=
e.de
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cryptic answers and has a lot of things going on in the background.
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From michael.doerner@clear.net.nz Sat Apr 10 13:04:57 1999
From: michael.doerner@clear.net.nz
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] g++ ... or what's the problem here?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 01:04:57 +1200
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Thanks a lot for your help.
Progress with both now: with g++ (gpp as I just learned) and a successful
wvdial make and also with the SuSE scripts!!
As you show on your web site what to put in /etc/suseppp/generic.options ...
that made the progress there! My script (generated by YAST) contained 4
blank lines before the 'name' line. I filled these lines now with parameters
(/dev/modem, 19200, crtscts, lock) and since that time, the 'ppp-up' script
runs!
Since you had already the information on your site I assume, there were
quite a few others before with the same problem? What is wrong there with
YAST, generating the improper generic.options file? (This should be more a
question for SuSE but I guess they don't care. They will be busy working on
version 6.1 rather than looking into this).
Thanks again for your help.
Michael Doerner
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Sent: Saturday, 10 April 1999 22:04
To: Michael Doerner
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] g++ ... or what's the problem here?
Michael Doerner wrote:
> Hello,
> I am trying to install wvdial which was one of the recommendations for my
> PPP not working under SuSE 5.3.
> I downloaded wvdial and I read the instructions for compile/make and the
> requirements.
>
> When I start make it comes up the following error message:
>
> g++ $_R_CXXFLAGS - c base64.cc
> /bin/sh: g++: command not found
>
1) To be able to compile the source in SuSE 5.3
youll first need to start yast and install gpp which is a C++ compiler its
in the development section of packages.
yast
choose and install packages>change create configuration>development>gpp GNU
C++
compiler
F-10 >save configuration>load configuration>start installion
Then get the source for WvDial and simply follow the read me
1) To be able to compile the source in SuSE 5.3
youll first need to start yast and install gpp which is a C++ compiler its
in the development section of packages.
yast
choose and install packages>change create configuration>development>gpp GNU
C++
compiler
F-10 >save configuration>load configuration>start installion
Then get the source for WvDial and simply follow the read me
rob
Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB=
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From andyford@nothnbut.net Sat Apr 10 13:46:10 1999
From: andyford@nothnbut.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] qt libraries - newbie
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 08:46:10 -0500
Message-ID: <19990410084610.B5606@dave.ford.saint-louis.mo.us>
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On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 11:10:14AM +0100, Richard Williamson wrote:
>=20
> Hi all,
> I am trying to run ./configure on several programs I have downloaded, but I
> get an error saying that it can't find the qt 1.3 libraries. I've had a
I'm having the same problem except that my desired build wants=20
qt 1.42, but may be it's something Red-Hat specific that the=20
developers are doing that screws up on SuSE.
> look in /usr/X11R6/lib and there is a load of qt stuff there.
> questions:
> 1) What exactly is a qt library?
A library is shared code that any program can use.
> 2) Do I have to point to it in a PATH variable somewhere?
A similar but different thing. The PATH is for executables. For
libraries, the compiler searches ( I think) in all the directories
in /etc/ld.so.conf.
> 3) How can I tell if it's the 1.3 version that I have got?
try a "locate libqt". I get=20
/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libqt.so
/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libqt.so.1
/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libqt.so.1.42
/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libqthreads.so
/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libqthreads.so.0
/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libqthreads.so.0.0.0
/usr/lib/libqt.so
/usr/lib/libqt.so.1
/usr/lib/libqt.so.1.42
/usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt.so
/usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt.so.1
/usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt.so.1.42
I don't know why configure can't find 'em. I'm going to investigate
passing options to configure to force ti to look in the right places...
Yours,
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From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Sat Apr 10 13:53:03 1999
From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Ethernet - pppd problems
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 08:53:03 -0500
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Hi,
or better yet [ ;-) ], change your /etc/nsswitch.conf to look like this:
-------start---------
alexm(a)quake:/tmp > cat /etc/nsswitch.conf
# passwd: db files nis
# shadow: db files nis
# group: db files nis
passwd: compat
group: compat
hosts: files dns <---- here
networks: files dns <---- here
ervices: db files
protocols: db files
rpc: db files
ethers: db files
netmasks: files
netgroup: files
bootparams: files
automount: files
aliases: files
---------end-----------
then reboot or:
# killall -HUP inetd
-alexm
On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Steve Pauly wrote:
>=20
> Mr. Error,
>=20
> I did not see anyone reply to this, so here's my stab...
>=20
> I am fairly sure your problem is due to a misconfigured /etc/resolv.conf
> file. IOW, DNS is messed up and telnet is timing out.=20
>=20
> I'm at work so I can't look at my box, but try putting=20
>=20
> search
> nameserver
> nameserver
>=20
> in the file and see what happens.=20
>=20
> I had this exact problem years ago but the tiny details escape me.=20
>=20
> HTH and have a good day! :-)
>=20
> Steve.
>=20
> ------------------------------------
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> steve.pauly(a)glm.com
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>=20
>=20
> On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Read Error wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Hi,
> > I have a problem with a local ethernet network when using the pppd. When =
the pppd is down I can telnet from the local machines ok and it gets the logi=
n prompt normally. But when I have the pppd connected to my ISP it seems the =
telnet session "hangs" for up to a minute then after that it logs in normally=
. I haven't added any hardware or changed the systen in any way. This problem=
started occuring a few weeks ago and I can't figure out what's causing it. I=
'm using SuSE 5.3. Any information or help would be greatly appreciated. Many=
Thanks...
> >=20
> >=20
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From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 10 13:54:45 1999
From: richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Star Office...oops, installed as root
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:54:45 +0100
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Hi
I have installed Star Office to then read the help files on installation and =
discovered I should have not installed under root user if I am running a stan=
d=20
alone system.
I want to use Star Office for two users, currently it is installed as root=20
user in /usr.
Any advice on getting Star Office running for other users? How have you setup=
=20
your system?
Thanks
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From roed@hem.utfors.se Sat Apr 10 13:55:28 1999
From: roed@hem.utfors.se
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:55:28 +0200
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On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Thorsten Kukuk wrote:
> SuSE Linux 6.1 has sendmail 8.9.3.
Any plans for QMail ?
- * Linux - ett stabilare s=C3=A4tt att leva * -
- * Linux - a more stabile way to live * -
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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 10 13:57:02 1999
From: northsky@ix.netcom.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] qt libraries - newbie
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:57:02 -0400
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On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Andy Ford wrote:
> A similar but different thing. The PATH is for executables. For
> libraries, the compiler searches ( I think) in all the directories
> in /etc/ld.so.conf.
Not quite. The compiler doesn't look for libraries, that's the linker's
job. It looks in the variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and in /etc/ld.so.cache,
in /usr/lib, and in /lib. Try using -L/dirwheremyqtlibsare in the
Makefile. If you ran ./configure (if there was one) it should have done
this for you.
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From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Apr 10 14:22:20 1999
From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: qt libraries - newbie
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:22:20 +0200
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Hi,
On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 11:10 +0100, Richard Williamson wrote:
> I am trying to run ./configure on several programs I have downloaded, but I
> get an error saying that it can't find the qt 1.3 libraries. I've had a
> look in /usr/X11R6/lib and there is a load of qt stuff there.
> questions:
Sounds like you forgot to install the qtdevel, qtext and
qtcompat packages.
> 1) What exactly is a qt library?
It's a library for writing graphical user interfaces. KDE, for
instance, uses it.
> 2) Do I have to point to it in a PATH variable somewhere?
No, you shouldn't have to bother about that. If you use the qt
stuff that came with SuSE Linux, the necessary settings are done
automatically.
> 3) How can I tell if it's the 1.3 version that I have got?
Again, if you use the qt supplied with SuSE, a
rpm -q qt
will tell it.
> Please forgive my terminal ignorance but I am still at the bottom of a very
> steep learning curve in Linux and I don't really get what's happening with
> all of these different libraries.
No need to apologize, this mailinglist is exactly the right
place to ask questions like this.
Ciao,
Stefan
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From jzents@earthlink.net Sat Apr 10 14:23:39 1999
From: jzents@earthlink.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Star Office...oops, installed as root
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:23:39 -0500
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Rich,
I=20
installed for myself and my wife. I logged in as root and mounted the CD=20
and did the things neccessary to prepare. Then I switched consols and=20
logged in as wife and did the install under her login. Seems to have =
worked fine.
Jeff=20
Zents
Hi
I have installed Star Office to then read the help files on installation=20
and discovered I should have not installed under root user if I am runnin=
g a=20
stand alone system.
I want to use Star Office for two users, currently it is installed as=20
root user in /usr.
Any advice on getting Star Office running for other users? How have you=20
setup your system?
Thanks
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From andyford@nothnbut.net Sat Apr 10 14:25:57 1999
From: andyford@nothnbut.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: korg build
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:25:57 -0500
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On Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 01:18:13PM -0400, Preston Brown wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Andy Ford wrote:
>=20
> > Hi Preston
> > I am very anxious to try korganizer; the screenshots make me drool!
> Make sure you have qt-devel installed as well.
Did it, had it, there's something very strange going on:
ella:/usr/local/src/korganizer-1.1 # ls /usr/lib/qt/include/
. qglobal.h qpsprinter.h
.. qgmanager.h qptrdict.h
qaccel.h qgroupbox.h qpushbutton.h
.
.
.
qglist.h qprogressdialog.h qwmatrix.h
So there's the includes right?
Similarly for the libs, so I try to force the issue:
ella:/usr/local/src/korganizer-1.1 # ./configure --with-qt-dir=3D/usr/lib/qt =
--with-qt-includes=3D/usr/lib/qt/include --with-qt-libraries=3D/usr/lib/qt/lib
.
.
.
checking for killpg in -lucb... no
checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt >=3D 1.42 (libraries) not found. Plea=
se check your installation!
=20
So I'm very puzzled.
Yours,
Andy
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From graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk Sat Apr 10 14:32:33 1999
From: graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:32:33 +0000
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Thorsten Kukuk writes:
> Do you mean procps 2.0 ? To many changes in the parameters.=20
> SuSE Linux 6.1 has mount 2.9i.
I am running procps 2.02 (self compiled) with NO problems at all under
Suse 6.0. If there are any incompatibilities, I haven't seen any. ps,
top, vmstat etc all seem to work fine.
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From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Apr 10 14:36:51 1999
From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: KDE on SuSE 5.1
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:36:51 +0200
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Hi,
On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 14:00 -0200, Leonel Rivas wrote:
> Hi, im new on this list, and im looking for information about KDE on SuSE
> 5.1, Ive been searching the KDE Site, but found information only about KDE
> and SuSE 5.3 or 6.0.
> May i install KDE on this SuSE 5.1?
Yes, this should be possible. It's probably a good idea to get
the KDE sources in tar.gz format and compile and install them
yourself.
Ciao,
Stefan
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From andyford@nothnbut.net Sat Apr 10 14:40:22 1999
From: andyford@nothnbut.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] g++ ... or what's the problem here?
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:40:22 -0500
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On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 01:04:57AM +1200, Michael Doerner wrote:
>=20
> youll first need to start yast and install gpp which is a C++ compiler its
> in the development section of packages.
> yast
>=20
and what does the group think about this mess: gpp is installed but seemingly=
lost! Here's the disastrous ending:
g++ -s -o wvdial wvdial.o wvdial.a ../configfile/configfile.a ../streams/str=
eams.a ../utils/utils.a =20
/usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open crtbegin.o: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [wvdial] Error 1
make: *** [subdirs] Error 2
But check this out:
bash-2.02# locate crtbegin.o
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtbegin.o
o it's somewhere...
helllllp!
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From jpg@hpcvsjpg.cv.hp.com Sat Apr 10 14:46:57 1999
From: jpg@hpcvsjpg.cv.hp.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] PCMCIA NIC's
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 07:46:57 -0700
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Hey gang,
Looking for a list of currently supported, from within linuxrc, PCMCIA NIC's
for SuSE 5.3. Is there such a list and where is it?
TIA
John
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From sinthetk@gothic.net Sat Apr 10 15:12:35 1999
From: sinthetk@gothic.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Star Office...oops, installed as root
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:12:35 -0500
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Richard,
I installed it in both my user account and my wifes, and registered it
separately for both installs under both our names and it works fine like
this..takes up twice the space, but with HD's being cheap..it was not a
worry for me.
laters,
=20
> Hi
>=20
> I have installed Star Office to then read the help files on
> installation and discovered I should have not installed under root
> user if I am running a stand alone system.
>=20
> I want to use Star Office for two users, currently it is installed as
> root user in /usr.
>=20
> Any advice on getting Star Office running for other users? How have
> you setup your system?
>=20
> Thanks
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From cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl Sat Apr 10 15:38:18 1999
From: cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:38:18 +0200
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On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 03:55:28PM +0200, Rolf Edlund wrote:
>> SuSE Linux 6.1 has sendmail 8.9.3.
> Any plans for QMail ?
I prefer Qmail also...
Greetings,
Cees.
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From: dproc@dol.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] sndconfig...where is this, SuSE 6.0, where is this? et al
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:49:06 -0400
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> From: "Jeff"
> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:23:31 -0500
>=20
> I am a newbie to Linux, SuSE in particular. I have installed, in the past,
> & used FreeBSD (2.2.6).
>=20
> I recently was impressed enough with what I heard about Linux, SuSE in
> particular, that I bought it.
SuSE is my first Linux*, I installed it a few weeks ago, and it was far easier
to install on my used system than Windows (I have given up on Windows, their
CD-ROM is gathering dust.)
=20
> My machine is MSNT based, as follows:
> AMD K6-2/350
> 64MB SDRAM
> Canopus Total 3D PCI video card, with Rendition, and Verite 1000 chip
> Creative Labs Sound BLaster PCI 128 sound card
> Symbios Logic 53C416 SCSI card (came w/ my HP Scanjet 4P.)
> ATAPI CD ROM (Warhens? generic from Best Buy)
> Motorola Bitsurfer 288 internal modem (Legacy)
> 3 internal hard drives. c:\ is NT 4.0 with NTFS. SuSE is on its own,
> dedicated hdd, and I boot from a floppy, TO Lilo, until I get brave enough
> to strip the MBR from the floppy and move it over to c:\. Okay? Here're my
> questions.
> Printer is an HP LaserJet 1100
Drool, drool. Do you use NT Workstation or Server?
Does loadlin run on NT? That might make you a little less nervous than
putting Lilo on your MBR. I don't have a utility for backing up and
restoring MBRs - anyone any suggestions? I only have one hard disk and no
tape drive yet, so I spend all my time being nervous!
I am not sure what you mean by stripping the MBR from your floppy and moving
that to C: If it is what it sounds like, it won't work, as the MBR is
specific to the disk geometry.
Don't worry too much though, in YaST under the "Kernel and boot configuration"
menu there is a utility that will build you a Lilo on the MBR of a hard disk -
if you are really confident that it won't harm your NT ! YaST takes no brains
to work - I should know. (It will also help you build spare boot
floppies, though IMHO it is just as easy to do manually.)
I have S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3
> I have no sound, either in X-term, or KDE. I typed "sndconfig" as root, but
> the response is that there is no such command. I can put a music CD in,
> press play, & see the activity in the player, and it's reading the CD's
> properties correctly, but no sound. My first question is, how can I
> configure my sound card, or better yet, will I be able to?
>=20
Dig out the chapter on compiling kernels in your SuSE manual. The
binary kernels on the CD-ROM do not include sound for reliability. I
have not got around to compiling a kernel with sound support anyway.
I probably won't as I want to use my speakers and mic to use the modem
as a hands-free telephone.
> Second question: I can't find my modem & successfully querry it from KPPP.
> In NT it's com 2; in SuSE, it's ttyS1, but the response when that device is
> selected in KPPP is always "modem busy." *IF* however, I select device as
> 3, as in ttyS3, cua3, etc., it will querry the modem, and I hear it *START*
> to dial, then KPPP tells me "modem querry timed out." I've checked my conf
> file & fs tab, etc., and the modem is there, and I've used YAST over & again
> to install the modem. I tried going to an X-Term and typing "ln -s
> /dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem" When I do, the response is that it already exists.
> The modem is PNP, but I have PNP disabled via jumper. I have configured
> networking as PPP & the PPP device as modem. I have no NIC, and my sole
> connection to the 'net is my ISP, which uses dynamic IP. Should I edit a
> file's properties & make this device cua1? TtyS1 surprised me, as I expected
> it to be cua1. I had this problem with FreeBSD, where it tried to make my
> mouse a tty, as opposed to a cua; when I edited the properties, all was
> fine. I just don't know what file(s) to edit, for sure.
It sounds like you need to configure the correct address and irq for
ttyS1. In S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3 the file to edit is=20
/sbin/init.d/serial
You need the appropriate setserial command for your modem, for example
${SETSERIAL} /dev/ttyS1 uart 16550A port 0x2F8 irq 3
I am sure you know where to find the correct values - either match
your jumper settings with the modem manual, or find out what Windows*
is using. (For fast troubleshooting, you can also enter setserial
commands interactively.) Don't let tty worry you - according to the
more recent docs it is preferred and cua deprecated, at least as I
understood it.
Another suggestion - rather than use a PPP package as your first
attempt to contact the modem, login as root and use minicom or kermit
(C-kermit isn't on the CD but is nice to have and easy to install.)
Type typical modem commands (see the modem manual) and see if you get
a sensible response. Then type the commands to dial your ISP and see
if the modem makes a good connection. When you have that working,
start to test your PPP software. You could also try the suseppp
package. Somewhere in the HOWTO there is also a suggestion for
connecting pppd directly to a dial-up connection you made manually at the
console - it is quite simple and reassuring to get that to happen as I recall.
Good luck and let us know how it works.
dproc
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From dproc@dol.net Sat Apr 10 15:49:12 1999
From: dproc@dol.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
Re: [SuSE Linux] sndconfig...where is this, SuSE 6.0, where is this? et al
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:49:12 -0400
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> From: "Jeff"
> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:23:31 -0500
>=20
> I am a newbie to Linux, SuSE in particular. I have installed, in the past,
> & used FreeBSD (2.2.6).
>=20
> I recently was impressed enough with what I heard about Linux, SuSE in
> particular, that I bought it.
SuSE is my first Linux*, I installed it a few weeks ago, and it was far easier
to install on my used system than Windows (I have given up on Windows, their
CD-ROM is gathering dust.)
=20
> My machine is MSNT based, as follows:
> AMD K6-2/350
> 64MB SDRAM
> Canopus Total 3D PCI video card, with Rendition, and Verite 1000 chip
> Creative Labs Sound BLaster PCI 128 sound card
> Symbios Logic 53C416 SCSI card (came w/ my HP Scanjet 4P.)
> ATAPI CD ROM (Warhens? generic from Best Buy)
> Motorola Bitsurfer 288 internal modem (Legacy)
> 3 internal hard drives. c:\ is NT 4.0 with NTFS. SuSE is on its own,
> dedicated hdd, and I boot from a floppy, TO Lilo, until I get brave enough
> to strip the MBR from the floppy and move it over to c:\. Okay? Here're my
> questions.
> Printer is an HP LaserJet 1100
Drool, drool. Do you use NT Workstation or Server?
Does loadlin run on NT? That might make you a little less nervous than
putting Lilo on your MBR. I don't have a utility for backing up and
restoring MBRs - anyone any suggestions? I only have one hard disk and no
tape drive yet, so I spend all my time being nervous!
I am not sure what you mean by stripping the MBR from your floppy and moving
that to C: If it is what it sounds like, it won't work, as the MBR is
specific to the disk geometry.
Don't worry too much though, in YaST under the "Kernel and boot configuration"
menu there is a utility that will build you a Lilo on the MBR of a hard disk -
if you are really confident that it won't harm your NT ! YaST takes no brains
to work - I should know. (It will also help you build spare boot
floppies, though IMHO it is just as easy to do manually.)
I have S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3
> I have no sound, either in X-term, or KDE. I typed "sndconfig" as root, but
> the response is that there is no such command. I can put a music CD in,
> press play, & see the activity in the player, and it's reading the CD's
> properties correctly, but no sound. My first question is, how can I
> configure my sound card, or better yet, will I be able to?
>=20
Dig out the chapter on compiling kernels in your SuSE manual. The
binary kernels on the CD-ROM do not include sound for reliability. I
have not got around to compiling a kernel with sound support anyway.
I probably won't as I want to use my speakers and mic to use the modem
as a hands-free telephone.
> Second question: I can't find my modem & successfully querry it from KPPP.
> In NT it's com 2; in SuSE, it's ttyS1, but the response when that device is
> selected in KPPP is always "modem busy." *IF* however, I select device as
> 3, as in ttyS3, cua3, etc., it will querry the modem, and I hear it *START*
> to dial, then KPPP tells me "modem querry timed out." I've checked my conf
> file & fs tab, etc., and the modem is there, and I've used YAST over & again
> to install the modem. I tried going to an X-Term and typing "ln -s
> /dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem" When I do, the response is that it already exists.
> The modem is PNP, but I have PNP disabled via jumper. I have configured
> networking as PPP & the PPP device as modem. I have no NIC, and my sole
> connection to the 'net is my ISP, which uses dynamic IP. Should I edit a
> file's properties & make this device cua1? TtyS1 surprised me, as I expected
> it to be cua1. I had this problem with FreeBSD, where it tried to make my
> mouse a tty, as opposed to a cua; when I edited the properties, all was
> fine. I just don't know what file(s) to edit, for sure.
It sounds like you need to configure the correct address and irq for
ttyS1. In S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3 the file to edit is=20
/sbin/init.d/serial
You need the appropriate setserial command for your modem, for example
${SETSERIAL} /dev/ttyS1 uart 16550A port 0x2F8 irq 3
I am sure you know where to find the correct values - either match
your jumper settings with the modem manual, or find out what Windows*
is using. (For fast troubleshooting, you can also enter setserial
commands interactively.) Don't let tty worry you - according to the
more recent docs it is preferred and cua deprecated, at least as I
understood it.
Another suggestion - rather than use a PPP package as your first
attempt to contact the modem, login as root and use minicom or kermit
(C-kermit isn't on the CD but is nice to have and easy to install.)
Type typical modem commands (see the modem manual) and see if you get
a sensible response. Then type the commands to dial your ISP and see
if the modem makes a good connection. When you have that working,
start to test your PPP software. You could also try the suseppp
package. Somewhere in the HOWTO there is also a suggestion for
connecting pppd directly to a dial-up connection you made manually at the
console - it is quite simple and reassuring to get that to happen as I recall.
Good luck and let us know how it works.
dproc
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From alain.buret@village.uunet.be Sat Apr 10 16:20:20 1999
From: alain.buret@village.uunet.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IBM, Linux and WinModems (ie: MWAVE modems)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:20:20 +0200
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Hy Bob
Like you, I hope that IBM will do something about Winmodem ... I have a
Thinkpad and the winmodem gives me great satisfaction ... under Winblows
... I would have same satisfaction under Linux.
Alain BURET
Bob Easton wrote:
> Hey! Since IBM has announced that they will be supporting Linux
> does that mean that there's hope for seeing source code drivers
> or binary support for MWAVE-based modems with DSVD capability?
> Is there any non-WinModem on the market with DSVD capability?
> What 56K modem is recommended that has all the voicemail support
> under Linux?
>
> -Bob
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From mha@suse.de Sat Apr 10 16:34:02 1999
From: mha@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:34:02 +0200
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On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Cees van de Griend wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 03:55:28PM +0200, Rolf Edlund wrote:
> >> SuSE Linux 6.1 has sendmail 8.9.3.
> > Any plans for QMail ?
>=20
> I prefer Qmail also...
The reason it's not shipped is
ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/=
qmail/dist.html>
I know, there's even commercial software on the CD, but that's user
software, not system software.
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From grimmer@suse.de Sat Apr 10 16:52:56 1999
From: grimmer@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New user Novell question
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:52:56 +0200
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Hi Andy,
On 8 Apr 1999, Andy Thomson wrote:
> I have been using SuSE 6.0 for a little while at home. Now I want to
> install it on my new machine at work, and ditch Win95. My question is
> can I get Linux to act as a client on a Novell 4.11 network? Is there
> a VLM/NETX type program for Linux?
You can use mars_nwe to emulate a Novell 3.x - Server and -Client. For
Novell 4.x and 5.x, you need a commercial solution. Caldera Linux has
something like this, this package works on SuSE Linux, too.
Bye,
LenZ
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From grimmer@suse.de Sat Apr 10 16:53:31 1999
From: grimmer@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] unsubscribing?
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:53:31 +0200
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Hi,
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote:
> I am not a complete moron, but for some reason my old isp mail address
> won't unsubscribe..I am getting rid of the account at the end of the
> month..but until I do a full switch over...I need to check this
> account..and I followed the instructions to unsubcribe the
> account..didn't work...
>=20
> if anyone one who runs the list can help me..the address is
> sinthetk(a)inlink.com :/
Done.
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From grimmer@suse.de Sat Apr 10 17:02:50 1999
From: grimmer@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:02:50 +0200
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Hi,
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Rolf Edlund wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Thorsten Kukuk wrote:
>=20
> > SuSE Linux 6.1 has sendmail 8.9.3.
>=20
> Any plans for QMail ?
Nope - we were not allowed to put it on CD :(
But we'll have Postfix instead :)
Bye,
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From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Apr 10 17:05:34 1999
From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Star Office...oops, installed as root
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:05:34 +0200
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Hi,
On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 10:12 -0500, Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote:
> I installed it in both my user account and my wifes, and registered it
> separately for both installs under both our names and it works fine like
> this..takes up twice the space, but with HD's being cheap..it was not a
> worry for me.
You can also do a multi user install to save HD space. First
install SO as root using `setup /net'. Then install it for every
user with `setup' and choose workstation install. This way SO
needs only 2 additional MB for every user.
Ciao,
Stefan
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From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Apr 10 17:05:57 1999
From: fmiller@lightlink.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] PC World News: Microsoft Opening Yet More Windows
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:05:57 -0400
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From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Apr 10 17:08:37 1999
From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: korg build
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:08:37 +0200
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Hi,
On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 09:25 -0500, Andy Ford wrote:
> > > I am very anxious to try korganizer; the screenshots make me drool!
> > Make sure you have qt-devel installed as well.
> Did it, had it, there's something very strange going on:
Make sure that qtcompat and qtext are installed as well.
Ciao,
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From evargas9@hotmail.com Sat Apr 10 17:22:27 1999
From: evargas9@hotmail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:22:27 -0700
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I also have a 3 button mouse and found out that if you highlight what
you want to copy then go to where ever your going to paste it, then
click on the middle button. This has seemed to work for me.
>From: speng
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>Subject: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste"
>Date: Sat, 09 Apr 1994 20:06:44 -0400
>
>
>Hi
>
>Does any one know how to do, so that I can use mouse to "COPY and
>PASTE" like
>in Unix X-window. I am using SuSE 6.0 and a 3-button mouse.
>
>Thanks a lot for your help
>sean
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From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Apr 10 19:06:38 1999
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Another non-specific Linux article, but one worth reading, as some of us do h=
ave
cable modems.
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From dproc@dol.net Sat Apr 10 19:10:31 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:10:31 -0400
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>=20
> >> on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . =20
> =20
I haven't read the UNIX*98 standards, but although the consortium is all about
selling proprietary Unix, doesn't it sound like a reasonable standard for at
least one Linux* distribution to aim for.
BTW I picked S.u.S.E. because of the nice manual, because I got 5 CDs
including proprietary demos, with plenty of home and leisure software, because
I thought I could use the on-line docs to help me learn German, and because
the international CDs had US export encryption expunged (I want to keep my CDs
when I leave the USA! Freud would have had something to say about me I am
sure.)
I had heard it was a technically sound distribution, it used the famous rpm
package management, rather than the controversial debian one. I was
pleasantly surprised to find that it uses the elegant SVR4 shadow passwords
and boot concept. Also glad that I downloaded a source rpm built for RedHat,
and it worked first time on S.u.S.E. 5.3.0-1
However, even if SuSE and Caldera progress closer to The Open Group UNIX
standards, should not people feel free to distribute and use ready-made Linux
distros with their own technical preferences, such as BSD-like or SVR3.
Let us not forget the GNU Project which started all this - GNU also have some
standards around what a system that is not UNIX should look like. =20
My bet is that SuSE will become a purer GNU distro, Caldera
will get more stuff accredited as industry standard UNIX 95 or similar, and
Red Hat will stick with their more BSD like structure to make it easier to
support their novice user base.
Let us keep the distro wars going for a while. =20
Some geniuses are still even able to manage common source trees for VMS*,
Windows*, several flavors of UNIX and a couple of Linux flavours. To be hone=
st
I love them for it.
dproc
* VMS is a registered trademark of Digital Equipment Corporation
UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group
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From roed@hem.utfors.se Sat Apr 10 19:17:07 1999
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:17:07 +0200
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Sometimes my ppp connection brakes down. :-(
/var/log/messages
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
pppd[598]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
pppd[598]: Modem hangup
pppd[598]: Connection terminated.
pppd[598]: Exit.
pppd[609]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Is this something on my side ? In that case, what shall I look for ?
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:21:45 +0200
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On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Michael Hasenstein wrote:
> The reason it's not shipped is
> ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/ww=
w/qmail/dist.html>
Sorry, but I can't find that URL.
=20
> I know, there's even commercial software on the CD, but that's user
> software, not system software.
What's the difference ? ;-)
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:23:44 -0400
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> From: "Kester Clegg"
>=20
> I think very little, *but* it does miff me a bit when Yast overwrites
> certain files (or rather, SuSEconfig does) everytime you run it; e.g. kdmrc,
> ppp stuff... and there are many ocassions when running every update tool
> (such as those for teTeX) is irratatingly slow. However, I do like the idea
> of a central rc.config file with variables you can set which then run
> scripts as you enter a particular run level. IMHO, this is a nice feature
> once you get the hang of it.
> k.
A kludge to stop SuSEconfig trampling over your nice handcrafted suseppp
configuration files, is to rename them to something that is not in the ISP
database. So instead of generic.chat and generic.options I use dol.chat and
dol.options. Therefore SuSEconfig complains each time it runs that there is
no doldf entry, but it leaves well alone. Yes it still tampers with the
generic.* files as it sees the need, but I don't use them so I am happy.
For everything else I am glad that YaST and SuSEconfig take care of the hard
work.
BTW, I don't use kdmrc, but aren't you supposed to be able to put your
customisations in susewmrc, or something like that?
dproc
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From dizzy73@connix.com Sat Apr 10 19:23:50 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:23:50 -0400
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Kester Clegg wrote:
> I sympathise with this, I just cannot find the email program I want under
> Linux - Pine is OK, but faffing about with endless docs about
> sendmail/fetchmail etc is getting to be tedious and no URL 'click and
> view' stuff is a nusiance...
Yea.... I agree.
Not only the above but the damm thing cant EVEN have any color! Talk about fu=
c*^0
archaic
Im about disgusted with the whole lot.
Seems to me a little bit of color is taboo
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From roed@hem.utfors.se Sat Apr 10 19:30:53 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:30:53 +0200
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On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
> > Any plans for QMail ?
>=20
> Nope - we were not allowed to put it on CD :(
:-( sniff! )-:
> But we'll have Postfix instead :)
I have a look at it, as soon as I get my 6.1 box.. :-)
Btw.. Is there anything I have to think of, when upgrading from 5.3 ?
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From dproc@dol.net Sat Apr 10 19:41:47 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PPP Problems
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:41:47 -0400
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> From: "Michael Doerner"
>=20
> Hello,
> I am trying to get my ISP connection running on a SuSE 5.3 based PC which I
> have set up recently.
> After doing all ISP related settings for suseppp, connecting the (external)
> modem with minicom, I am struggling at the moment that I try to check my PPP
> connection with the ppp-up script.
>=20
> When the script wants to send +++ATZ to the modem, nothing happens there,
> +++ATZ is only shown on the screen??? But I can do: echo +++ATZ > /dev/modem
> and that time the modem shows the proper reaction!?
> I also had a successful try with KPPP.
>=20
Yes this is harder to find in the docs. Have you found out if your ISP uses
PAP, CHAP or terminal server?
If it is the traditional terminal server, it turns out that the chat script
that suseppp gives you is *only an example* which you are supposed to
customize to your needs. I cannot remember where this was in the docs, but
now you know this, the place to go is man chat, and work out how to customize
it.
Good luck, it is not too hard.=20
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From chapmanb@u.washington.edu Sat Apr 10 19:52:20 1999
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:52:20 -0700
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I'm a new linux user, and I've finally been able to get most everything
running properly, but I still can't get connected to my university's
network. My card (3cc575BT) is recognized and I think properly configured,=20
(I get two high beeps at boot up) but when I try to connect with telnet,=20
I get a host name lookup failure. The network uses DHCP and the only=20
error I can see when booting is:
cardmgr[67]: + ./network: /sbin/dhcpcd: no such file or directory
Does anyone have any suggestions or help? =20
(I checked the SuSE support database, but I didn't see anything about it)
Please reply to chapmanb(a)u.washington.edu
Thanks!
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From dproc@dol.net Sat Apr 10 19:55:06 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] About 2.2.5 kernel in SuSE 6.1 and Kppp problem.
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:55:06 -0400
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> From: "Mac Q. Flores IV"
>=20
> Then there's the issue of why YaST needs to change permissions to kppp,
> pppd and delete the resolv.conf file everytime you run it w/c results in a
> "user" not being able to do dial-outs. Isn't this rather strange
> considering that it is always impressed upon users not to run as "root"
> except when necessary?
User doesn't need to run as root, just be a member of the appropriate group.
I think it is called "uucp" or "dialout". My trusted real users are in both
as I don't know which one I need! They can run "suseppp/ppp-up" with no
problem.
diald is a different story.
dproc
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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Sat Apr 10 20:02:52 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] KPPP ?
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Hi All;
I'm trying to get my Kppp set up. The daemon keeps dropping dead. On the
log it says "Serial line is looped back.". Can anyone give me an idea what
to look for? BTW I do NOT have "lock" in my options file.
TIA!
J
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From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 10 20:08:41 1999
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Rolf Edlund wrote:
>=20
> Sometimes my ppp connection brakes down. :-(
>=20
> /var/log/messages
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> pppd[598]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
> pppd[598]: Modem hangup
> pppd[598]: Connection terminated.
> pppd[598]: Exit.
> pppd[609]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
>=20
> Is this something on my side ? In that case, what shall I look for ?
>=20
Not necessarily. ISP's sometimes have watchdog programs that look for
connections that haven't had activity for a certain length of time. It
will automatically hang up on those 'idle' connections, even if you
don't consider yourself idling. ISP's that "overbook their modem ports
use their watchdog alot. I recall reading about a setting somewhere
that causes your pppd to send out a ping every so often, just to keep
the dogs away, but I can't recall where it is at right now. Maybe
another reader remembers.
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From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 10 20:12:02 1999
From: jlkreps@navix.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] About 2.2.5 kernel in SuSE 6.1 and Kpppproblem.
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:12:02 -0500
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dproc(a)dol.net wrote:
>=20
> > From: "Mac Q. Flores IV"
> >
> > Then there's the issue of why YaST needs to change permissions to kppp,
> > pppd and delete the resolv.conf file everytime you run it w/c results in a
> > "user" not being able to do dial-outs. Isn't this rather strange
> > considering that it is always impressed upon users not to run as "root"
> > except when necessary?
>=20
> User doesn't need to run as root, just be a member of the appropriate group.
> I think it is called "uucp" or "dialout". My trusted real users are in both
> as I don't know which one I need! They can run "suseppp/ppp-up" with no
> problem.
>=20
> diald is a different story.
>=20
> dproc
>=20
Don't forget the /etc/permissions file which contains the settings YaST
consults everytime it closes down. If you want YaST to set a file to a
specific permission then set it in the permissions file.
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From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 10 20:19:24 1999
From: jlkreps@navix.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:19:24 -0500
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dproc(a)dol.net wrote:
>=20
> >
> > >> on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. .
> >
>=20
> I haven't read the UNIX*98 standards, but although the consortium is all ab=
out
> selling proprietary Unix, doesn't it sound like a reasonable standard for at
> least one Linux* distribution to aim for.
>=20
> BTW I picked S.u.S.E. because of the nice manual, because I got 5 CDs
> including proprietary demos, with plenty of home and leisure software, beca=
use
> I thought I could use the on-line docs to help me learn German, and because
> the international CDs had US export encryption expunged (I want to keep my =
CDs
> when I leave the USA! Freud would have had something to say about me I am
> sure.)
>=20
> I had heard it was a technically sound distribution, it used the famous rpm
> package management, rather than the controversial debian one. I was
> pleasantly surprised to find that it uses the elegant SVR4 shadow passwords
> and boot concept. Also glad that I downloaded a source rpm built for RedHa=
t,
> and it worked first time on S.u.S.E. 5.3.0-1
>=20
> However, even if SuSE and Caldera progress closer to The Open Group UNIX
> standards, should not people feel free to distribute and use ready-made Lin=
ux
> distros with their own technical preferences, such as BSD-like or SVR3.
>=20
> Let us not forget the GNU Project which started all this - GNU also have so=
me
> standards around what a system that is not UNIX should look like.
>=20
> My bet is that SuSE will become a purer GNU distro, Calde=
ra
> will get more stuff accredited as industry standard UNIX 95 or similar, and
> Red Hat will stick with their more BSD like structure to make it easier to
> support their novice user base.
>=20
> Let us keep the distro wars going for a while.
I agree. Healthy competition is always good for the consumer.=20
Developing and adopting a good directory structure standard won't stifle
competition and will give commerical and GNU developers stable targets
to shoot at. If a distro wants to be distinct let them take a clue from
SuSE and market a well engineered and debuged product. I would rather
wait awhile for the pesticides to work than have a release meet an
arbritary delivery date.
=20
> Some geniuses are still even able to manage common source trees for VMS*,
> Windows*, several flavors of UNIX and a couple of Linux flavours. To be ho=
nest
> I love them for it.
>=20
> dproc
>=20
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From dizzy73@connix.com Sat Apr 10 20:33:46 1999
From: dizzy73@connix.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] g++ ... or what's the problem here?
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:33:46 -0400
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Michael Doerner wrote:
> Thanks a lot for your help.
>
> Progress with both now: with g++ (gpp as I just learned) and a successful
> wvdial make and also with the SuSE scripts!!
> As you show on your web site what to put in /etc/suseppp/generic.options ...
> that made the progress there!
Glad it helped
> My script (generated by YAST) contained 4
> blank lines before the 'name' line. I filled these lines now with parameters
> (/dev/modem, 19200, crtscts, lock) and since that time, the 'ppp-up' script
> runs!
yea old yast dosnt seem to be too smart I wasted several days tweeking what y=
ast
done.
and it continues to bawlk..
"You have modified resolv.conf leaving it untouched you can my my version...b=
la
bla"
"you have modified generic.dialed leaving it untouched you can my my
version...bla bla"
"you have modified generic.options leaving it untouched you can my my
version...bla bla"
" you have modified generic.chat leaving it untouched you can my my
version...bla bla"
add naseum ...bla bla
yasts generated config files are BRAIN DEAD!!!! It better not nouch my files =
of
Ill give it a SMAK!
>
> Since you had already the information on your site I assume, there were
> quite a few others before with the same problem?
you bet
> What is wrong there with
> YAST, generating the improper generic.options file? (This should be more a
> question for SuSE but I guess they don't care. They will be busy working on
> version 6.1 rather than looking into this).
You my friend, absolutly hit it rite on the head with that comment. Im sure
there will be a new kernal coming rite before the realease so this group can =
has
something to talk about
why dosnt this thing compile
what F%$*ing libraries do I have to download soas to make my p400 with 256 ra=
m a
little faster
oh ... yea and where do I get them??? the url dosnt work- or the files have
later dates than the ones on my system
why is this not compatible with that
and the endless undocumented "fun things" one encounters when trying to simply
install a pc of software --->as you so elequontly found out while trying to
install a 90k file!!!
So now linux with kde and netscape one has to have at least a p200 with buko
ram.Gone seem the days with a mere p90 with 32 ram could run a decent, 1/2 way
attractive, useful mail program and a browser. so the answer is... get this...
run netscape 3!! which is now 3 years old.
so logically i take that to mean todays os can /should run 3yr old browsers!!
Oh yea thats progress
oh... least I forget- one can browse the web with the ever popular, ever
evolving, low budget lynx [now thats FUN] not
oh well lets roll out the next distro.crank out another kernel. lets keep
everyone juggling!!!
lets look ahead.... hey those people are using linux they *should* be able to
figgure it out!
at least Im using 5.3 and plan to untill what I think is a useful distro is
realeased
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DU HAST!
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From dizzy73@connix.com Sat Apr 10 21:07:54 1999
From: dizzy73@connix.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:07:54 -0400
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dizzy wrote:
> Kester Clegg wrote:
>
> > I sympathise with this, I just cannot find the email program I want under
> > Linux - Pine is OK, but faffing about with endless docs about
> > sendmail/fetchmail etc is getting to be tedious and no URL 'click and
> > view' stuff is a nusiance...
Actually to be a bit proactive here...
to use pine...
you really dont need to mess around with sendmail
fetchmail is relitively trivial to setup and implement [trust me] my page has=
the
exact how to... set up and run fetchmail with suse you can either run it in d=
aemon
mode fetchmail -d 300
or even simplier fetchmail [I prefer the latter]
if you need help with that mail me
IMO black and white pine is LUDICRIST!!! no damm excuse about purity or any o=
ther
garbage!
Ive also mailed the pine list about color and guess what? *nothing* [surprise=
!]
btw... my page also has the exact howto setup and run procmail again relitive=
ly
trivial
thats no biggie and more importantly... no surprises
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From roed@hem.utfors.se Sat Apr 10 21:40:23 1999
From: roed@hem.utfors.se
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SIGHUP ?
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:40:23 +0200
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On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
> > Is this something on my side ? In that case, what shall I look for ?
> >=20
>=20
> Not necessarily. ISP's sometimes have watchdog programs that look for
> connections that haven't had activity for a certain length of time.
Yup! But I don't think it's that in my case ? Since this SIGHUP's
sometimes come, only 1 minute after I get my IP-adress from my ISP.
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From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 10 21:56:06 1999
From: richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: Star Office...oops, installed as root
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:56:06 +0100
Message-ID: <99041022585300.00282@charlie>
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Hi
What directories under root did you install SO5? Did you install in /opt or =
in
root? I take it that you installed the 2mb or so under each users home
directory as per SO5 default setting?
Thanks
Rich
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Stefan Troeger wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 10:12 -0500, Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote:
>
>> I installed it in both my user account and my wifes, and registered it
>> separately for both installs under both our names and it works fine like
>> this..takes up twice the space, but with HD's being cheap..it was not a
>> worry for me.
>
>You can also do a multi user install to save HD space. First
>install SO as root using `setup /net'. Then install it for every
>user with `setup' and choose workstation install. This way SO
>needs only 2 additional MB for every user.
>
>Ciao,
> Stefan
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From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 10 22:17:20 1999
From: richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Mix up with Outgoing email and system mail messages..?
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:17:20 +0100
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Hi all
I was sending a mail to SuSE tech support which I did thro' Kmail. After
sending I received a system mail which I read in Pine that gave the message
below....any ideas? Normally email works fine.
Thanks
Rich
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:14:31 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem
To: root(a)charlie.rak
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable
Parts/Attachments:
1 Shown 11 lines Text
2 Shown 361 bytes Message, "Delivery Status"
3 Shown 16 KB Message, "Re: (CD error)"
3.1 Shown 321 lines Text
----------------------------------------
The original message was received at Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:14:23 +0100
from localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
Joachim.Gleissner(a)suse.de
----- Transcript of session follows -----
.... while talking to mail.suse.de.: =20
>>> DATA
<<< 550 rejected: cannot route to sender
554 Joachim.Gleissner(a)suse.de... Service unavailable
[ Part 2: "Delivery Status" ]
Reporting-MTA: dns; charlie.rak
Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost
Arrival-Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:14:23 +0100
Final-Recipient: RFC822; Joachim.Gleissner(a)suse.de
Action: failed
Status: 5.2.0
Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.suse.de
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 rejected: cannot route to sender
Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:14:31 +0100
[ Part 3: "Included Message" ]
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:47:52 +0100
From: Richard Booth
To: Joachim Gleissner
Subject: Re: (CD error)
Hi Joachim
Thanks for your email...... =
=20
=20
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From michael.doerner@clear.net.nz Sat Apr 10 23:47:32 1999
From: michael.doerner@clear.net.nz
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] time zone question
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:47:32 +1200
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That looks like a silly question ... but it is still a problem here (SuSE
5.3):
We are on Standard time here in New Zealand at the moment, Daylight saving
has finished a while ago.
The PC's RTC is set to the current local time.
Example (it's just 11:30 this morning):
I start Linux and after logging in (as root) I ask the current time by
'date' command and it will tell me it is 10:30, therefore 1 hour behind.
I then check the time setting/time zone with YAST which shows me the proper
time zone (Auckland/Pacific). On the next screen YAST will ask me about the
adjustment of hardware clock, whether the system time is set to GMT (which
is always highlighted as the default) or Local Time.
I will select 'Local Time'. YAST then informs me that timezone was
activated. It will be active after next booting and with the next screen
YAST launches Suseconfig.
After suseconfig I leave YAST, check my time with 'date' command ... and it
is fine, like 11:30 (+) now.
BUT, after the next rebooting the time is gone back an hour again and I will
have to start the whole story again which I can't believe to be the proper
way.
Any idea who is doing wrong here, Linux or me? (OK, it must be me, but WHAT
am I doing wrong?)
Regards,
Michael Doerner
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From budr@sirinet.net Sun Apr 11 00:45:47 1999
From: budr@sirinet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] time zone question
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:45:47 -0500
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"Michael Doerner" writes:
> BUT, after the next rebooting the time is gone back an hour again and I will
> have to start the whole story again which I can't believe to be the proper
> way.
Sounds like your CMOS clock has gotten set back an hour. You are resetting=20
the system clock in linux, but the CMOS clock is still an hour off. The
clock command checks and sets the CMOS clock. Man clock for details.
#clock -r to read the CMOS clock. I'll bet it's an hour off.
Get your system clock set right, as you have been doing, then as root,
#clock -w to write correct system time to the CMOS clock. =20
You might want to do clock -r again just to be sure it worked. Then next
time you reboot, your time should be right.
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From dproc@dol.net Sun Apr 11 00:47:26 1999
From: dproc@dol.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste"
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:47:26 -0400
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> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:20:32 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Ewan Dunbar
> On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, speng wrote:
> > Does any one know how to do, so that I can use mouse to "COPY and
> > PASTE" like
> > in Unix X-window. I am using SuSE 6.0 and a 3-button mouse.
>=20
> Umm... are you talking about when you are *in* X? Since you seem to know
> about this, do it just like you did in "Unix X-window". If you're talking
> about on the console, then make sure you have gpm installed and running,
> then RTFM.
I guess that speng really means - "how do I paste from one X Window to
another?" It is easy to do *within* an xterm or within an emacs frame. But
how do I paste from rmail into lynx?
Surely the answer to that depends on the clipboard server that is running -
which is distribution dependent, isn't it?
CDE has one style of clipboard. On my SuSE Fvwm95 there is no clipboard as
standard AFAIK. So I don't think there is any way my mouse can work like it
would in CDE.
Clipboard servers are included in KDE and in GNOME (it is reputed.) I
understand that all work differently. But does
anyone have a recommendation as to what is easily installed from YaST and is
widely supported by applications? Then I will install it and try it.
In conclusion I should confess that I don't really care what speng's question
was, the blame for the above question is entirely my own.
dproc
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From: dproc@dol.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Epson Color 800 under SuSE 6.0 ?
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:06:07 -0400
Message-ID: <199904110106.VAA02031@swanage.co.uk>
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> From: "W.D.McKinney"
> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:11:10 -0800 (AKDT)
>=20
> Well I'm giving up on my new HP 695C printer, but how about
> if I trade with my wife for her Epson 800, will it work ?
Well I have an Epson Stylus Color 600. I understand that is has a similar
command set to the 800.
I have SuSE 5.3 and it works beautifully, though not with quite all the
options the Windows driver gives.
I think ghostscript is a wonderful tool -- thank you aladdin.
dproc
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From phil@servcom.com Sun Apr 11 01:33:42 1999
From: phil@servcom.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] more on ppp SIGHUP
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:33:42 -0800
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I was reading personal mail from work when I noticed that someone else
was having problems with SIGHUPs during ppp sessions. I am convinced
that these represent being hung up upon by my ISP. My ISP swears up and
down that I am terminating the connection, and that the problem is that
I do not have a v.90 modem... I remain unconvinced; 9 of every 10
disconnections are from the remote end.
Sometimes I can maintain a ppp connection for more than 12 hours, but
I've had the connection terminated in less than 1 minute, so this
problem is getting on toward making me think about a change ISPs. I'd
welcome expert (or other) opinion, in case I really do need to fix
something, so following are quotes from /var/log/messages -- I've left
debug on.
I interperet this as being hung up upon:=20
[...]
Apr 10 07:48:43 deepthought pppd[9736]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=3D0x1 f1 00
64 5a]
Apr 10 07:48:43 deepthought pppd[9736]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=3D0x1 1b 6d
2e ed]
Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Modem hangup
Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Connection terminated.
Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Exit.
Apr 10 07:50:49 deepthought kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline
successfully unregistered
[...]
Here's an example of me terminating a ppp session by running my ppp-down
script.
[...]
Apr 8 21:10:45 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=3D0x1 b1 b9
b5 75]
Apr 8 21:11:15 deepthought pppd[6564]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=3D0x1 fd e3
b0 12]
Apr 8 21:11:15 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=3D0x1 b1 b9
b5 75]
Apr 8 21:11:46 deepthought pppd[6564]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=3D0x1 03]
Apr 8 21:11:46 deepthought pppd[6564]: LCP terminated at peer's request
Apr 8 21:11:46 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP TermAck id=3D0x1]
Apr 8 21:11:47 deepthought pppd[6564]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=3D0x2 03]
Apr 8 21:11:47 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP TermAck id=3D0x2]
Apr 8 21:11:49 deepthought pppd[6564]: Connection terminated.
Apr 8 21:11:49 deepthought pppd[6564]: Exit.
Apr 8 21:13:21 deepthought kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline
successfully unregistered
[...]
During any ppp session LPC EchoReq and LCP EchoRep are exchanged about
every 30 seconds. The final exchange of these Rep and Req sequences
before a remote hangup is *always* a sent LCP EchoRep that is not
responded to inside the usual 30 seconds or so.
Thanks for any ideas,
phil
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From dproc@dol.net Sun Apr 11 02:00:31 1999
From: dproc@dol.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] time zone question
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:00:31 -0400
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> From: "Michael Doerner"
> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:47:32 +1200
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>=20
>=20
> That looks like a silly question ... but it is still a problem here (SuSE
> 5.3):
>=20
> We are on Standard time here in New Zealand at the moment, Daylight saving
> has finished a while ago.
> The PC's RTC is set to the current local time.
> Example (it's just 11:30 this morning):
> I start Linux and after logging in (as root) I ask the current time by
> 'date' command and it will tell me it is 10:30, therefore 1 hour behind.
> I then check the time setting/time zone with YAST which shows me the proper
> time zone (Auckland/Pacific). On the next screen YAST will ask me about the
> adjustment of hardware clock, whether the system time is set to GMT (which
> is always highlighted as the default) or Local Time.
> I will select 'Local Time'. YAST then informs me that timezone was
> activated. It will be active after next booting and with the next screen
> YAST launches Suseconfig.
> After suseconfig I leave YAST, check my time with 'date' command ... and it
> is fine, like 11:30 (+) now.
> BUT, after the next rebooting the time is gone back an hour again and I will
> have to start the whole story again which I can't believe to be the proper
> way.
>=20
> Any idea who is doing wrong here, Linux or me? (OK, it must be me, but WHAT
> am I doing wrong?)
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Michael Doerner
>=20
We just switched to DST in the US this week and I asked myself the same
question. There is a great explanation in the SAG (on your CD somewhere under
LDP) .
However the answer is reboot your machine, go into BIOS setup, (or DOS) and
change your hardware clock to the new local time. You will have to do it
again when DST starts.
This fixed it for me last night - thank you Lars!
As well as some troubleshooting tips, there is a cleaner alternative in the
SAG which will avoid you doing this in future, if you don't use Windows or
OS/2 on the same platform.
Regards, dproc
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