From andy@nerds.co.uk Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: andy@nerds.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Star Office Desktop icon Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:51:11 +0000 Message-ID: <199904260952.CAA22290@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0317041231950533466==" --===============0317041231950533466== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now I have put Star office in /Office50, how do I get an Icon on the desktop = to start the soffice script from the /Office50/bin directory? Andy at Work Home address Andy(a)nerds.co.uk -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0317041231950533466==-- From rthompson@motleypc.com Thu Apr 1 00:06:08 1999 From: rthompson@motleypc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:06:08 -0800 Message-ID: <000701be7bd3$71349560$30e7d8cd@rlt450> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8347450625350428910==" --===============8347450625350428910== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually if setup properly I believe it runs as user "news". Rick Thompson > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of Bud Rogers > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 11:24 AM > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode >=20 >=20 >=20 > Andy Ford writes: >=20 > > Could not open lockfile /var/run/fetch.lck for writing, abort fetch ... > > Sould I change the permissions on the dir (seems like a bad idea...) > > or run fetch as root? >=20 > I think fetch needs to run as root. >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Bud Rogers http://www.siri= net.net/~budr/zamm.html> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8347450625350428910==-- From mcdo148@ibm.net Thu Apr 1 00:37:45 1999 From: mcdo148@ibm.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] isapnp.conf now works :-) BUT kppp still says modem busy Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:37:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3702BFD9.DB49240B@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4145003623554900768==" --===============4145003623554900768== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, Thanks for the help! There were lots of weird M type characters in the .conf file, I fixed it ran pnpdump and got the following output: [start] lspci not found, so PCI resource conflict not checked Board 1 has Identity a9 ff ff ff ff 36 42 63 0e: CSC4236 Serial No -1 [check= sum a9] Board 2 has Identity 7b fe db eb ab 31 30 72 56: USR3031 Serial No 4275825579 [checksum 7b] Board USR3030/-1612403801 not found - skipping=20 [end] So I told YaST that the modem lived under Com1, entered ISP info and nameserv= er. Made sure there was no .lock in ppp/options and punched all the info in kppp, but it still just says "modem busy" In the BIOS setup, I set the irq for Com1 to ISA type instead of PCi/PnP And under the motherboard options I changed com1 form auto to disbaled. So I'm baffled again, but at least something has been accomplished :-) Please help if you can, Cheers! Dom -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4145003623554900768==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr 1 00:49:58 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:49:58 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9201558750256730127==" --===============9201558750256730127== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 31 Mar 1999, Bud Rogers wrote: -> ->Andy Ford writes: -> ->> Could not open lockfile /var/run/fetch.lck for writing, abort fetch ... ->> Sould I change the permissions on the dir (seems like a bad idea...) ->> or run fetch as root? -> ->I think fetch needs to run as root. -> ->--=20 -> ->Bud Rogers http://www.siri= net.net/~budr/zamm.html> ->-- ->To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with ->this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ->Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the ->archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -> ./fetch need to run as "news" --> so as root su news once you run fetch... its probably already dld the main list. Start a tin -r as a user and y ank in the main list and subscribe. If you have a network point the news reader to the local ip where leafnode is running. On your machine where leafnode is... use localhost. rob=20 Linux Homepage http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM= .htm> S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9201558750256730127==-- From mperry@basin.com Thu Apr 1 01:17:58 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.5 and the dell inspiron Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:17:58 -0800 Message-ID: <199904010117.RAA01909@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7909974386409246366==" --===============7909974386409246366== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have heard that the experimental drivers for sound support for the Dell Inspiron 7000 PII 366mhz system are included in the 2.2.5 kernel.=20 Has anyone using a dell inspiron attempted the sound card installation or support? I dont recall the sound card type but have heard that they are available in 2.2.5. Thanks. It also appears that XI has released a version 5 of their video drivers and that they are now glibc based which makes things a lot better. Has anyone upgraded to these drivers? --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7909974386409246366==-- From mperry@basin.com Thu Apr 1 01:42:23 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Thank you all!!! Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:42:23 -0800 Message-ID: <199904010142.RAA02032@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7444422222711584688==" --===============7444422222711584688== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 31 Mar, dizzy73 wrote: >=20 > HI Dan > I think thats unusual. I was under the impression that ppp and > slip where stock in suses distro. Is this on 5.3? Or 6? > rob >=20 I dont think so. I have installed 5.3 on a number of occasions and did not get ppp in the kernel. It seemed rather odd to me when it happened and I chalked it up to perhaps something I had done differently. When I did the 5.0 release, I seem to remember getting ppp without a problem. Perhaps something changed in the 5.3 release? --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7444422222711584688==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr 1 02:06:52 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Thank you all!!! Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:06:52 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99033013475602.00371@Darkside> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2599656319263127904==" --===============2599656319263127904== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI Dan I think thats unusual. I was under the impression that ppp and slip where stock in suses distro. Is this on 5.3? Or 6? rob On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Dan Tudor wrote: -> ->Thank you all for helping me this days so much. This is the first mail I'm ->sending within Linux and it feels great! My PPP connection is up and runnin= g! -> ->Besides the "lock" option I had to comment, I've found out, to my ashame t= hat ->I haven't the PPP compiled into the kernel! I was used with Red Hat where t= his ->was done by default. Instead, the guys from SuSE included radio modems in t= he ->kernel, and no PPP. when doing a standard installation. Interesting.. -> ->Again, thanx to all those who bothered to answer to my help request message= s. -> ->Dan. ->-- ->To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with ->this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ->Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the ->archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -> Linux Homepage http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM= .htm> S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2599656319263127904==-- From mcdo148@ibm.net Thu Apr 1 02:09:14 1999 From: mcdo148@ibm.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Progress: but help... Now hanging on "Modem Ready" Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:09:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3702D54A.2C2E5868@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0333102626392675814==" --===============0333102626392675814== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone, Glad to hear you got your modem working BTW Dizzy :-) Well, I went into my BIOS and changed the motherboard com1 thing from disabled to a different address, and slight progress has been made on the kppp front. = Now kppp says "Modem Ready" and then just sits there.=20 I know I've had this problem before, I had it with 5.3 originally I'm pretty sure. I know I fixed it, I just can't remember how... Any suggestions welcome! Cheers! Dom -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0333102626392675814==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 1 02:11:21 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] isapnp.conf now works :-) BUT kppp still says modem busy Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:11:21 +0200 Message-ID: <3702D5C9.3EBF1F3D@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <3702BFD9.DB49240B@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3678362684780978184==" --===============3678362684780978184== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Star Rubies wrote: >=20 > Hi there, >=20 > Thanks for the help! There were lots of weird M type characters in the .conf > file, I fixed it ran pnpdump and got the following output: >=20 > [start] > lspci not found, so PCI resource conflict not checked Again, this means, that you haven't installed pciutils. lspci is part of thhe package, which in turn is on the suse cdroms. I'd use it so you can be sure that there aren't conflicting resources. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - h.vossieck(a)ndh.net - http://www.n= dh.net/home/vossieck/> 49 2291 3010/6519 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3678362684780978184==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr 1 02:15:15 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Humor... Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:15:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3702D6B3.871EA9B7@connix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1010430892288972790==" --===============1010430892288972790== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable March 30, 1999(Seattle) -- Microsoft announced today that it will provide office furniture with its software. The next release of Windows, code named Naugahyde, will include the Microsoft Chair at no extra charge. "This is a natural for us," a Microsoft spokesperson said. "We've conquered the desktop, so we're looking at way of expanding our installed base." The spokesperson denied accusations that bundling constitutes an unfair competitive advantage. "We're just listening to our customers. They've asked for more built in features, and who doesn't use a chair when they're at their computer? Especially when they're waiting for Windows to reboot." Beta testers noted its large footprint and found the chair to lack substantial features found in most of the competition. But when asked if they dislike it enough to purchase another vendor's furniture, most stated that they would just take what Microsoft had to offer. Also in the works is a small seat, dubbed the Microsoft Stool, soon to be bundled with laptops. Beta testers were surprised to find the backless chair at their doorsteps. "Then again, it's not the first time we've received a shrink-wrapped stool sample from Microsoft," noted one breathless customer. -- Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1010430892288972790==-- From tjhanson@tscnet.com Thu Apr 1 02:22:13 1999 From: tjhanson@tscnet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Electronic Funds Transfer Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 18:22:13 -0800 Message-ID: <3702D855.3B7C501B@tscnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5133400377071865315==" --===============5133400377071865315== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've become interested in EFT. My interest is in creating software which would initiate electronic transactions through the ACH system, both debit and credit. I would like to give Linux and/or coders the ability to have users make secure payments electronically from a financial application over the Internet. While I have no interest in writing the next Quicken, I would like to give whomever does write financial software the ability to give users the option of paying bills electronically. Does anyone know of a resource for learning the ACH system well enough to send money through it? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5133400377071865315==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Thu Apr 1 02:28:36 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound on 2.2.x kernels Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 20:28:36 -0600 Message-ID: <3702D9D4.54DF904@navix.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3542537506503636239==" --===============3542537506503636239== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nick wrote: >=20 > A freind of mine just upgraded to the 2.2.4 kernel and he was previous > running the 2.0.36 kernel (he was using oss for sound no problem) when he > upgrade however, it seems the new kernel 2.2.4 (not sure about the 2.2.x > kernels before 2.2.4) does not support OSS, he hasnt gotten it working > under this kernel at least. and this is what he claims. Any > ideas/comments/suggestions? >=20 Not right now, but I'm sure I will when I run into the same problem this May when SuSE 6.1 comes out and I putz around to get sound working again... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3542537506503636239==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr 1 02:42:08 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Thank you all!!! Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:42:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3702DD00.76F7466D@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <199904010142.RAA02032@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6207318442830467185==" --===============6207318442830467185== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Perry wrote: > On 31 Mar, dizzy73 wrote: > > > > HI Dan > > I think thats unusual. I was under the impression that ppp and > > slip where stock in suses distro. Is this on 5.3? Or 6? > > rob > > > I dont think so. I have installed 5.3 on a number of occasions and did > not get ppp in the kernel. It seemed rather odd to me when it happened > and I chalked it up to perhaps something I had done differently. When > I did the 5.0 release, I seem to remember getting ppp without a problem. > Perhaps something changed in the 5.3 release? > > -- > Michael Perry > mperry(a)basin.com Thats weird... Ive installed 5.3 about 12x and never had to build a kernel for ppp or slipfirewall or masqurading (for diald). I remember when I first installed suse in oct 98 and had similar ppproblems I began to wonder if it was in the kernel as well. I beleive I posted here and was told by someone from suse that ppp was in the kernel. afaik ppp slip fw and ip masq are all included in the stock "IDE" kernel upon install. looking at the suse 5.3 manual pg 268 it says " IF you compile a kernel make sure you include ppp" I read that as if you redo your kernel be sure to *include* ppp--- Although It dosnt come rite out and say its included by default. At any rate I beleive a simple test such as typing in pppd as root should give you a bunch of caracter gibberish if indeed you have pppd rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6207318442830467185==-- From deem@wdm.com Thu Apr 1 03:20:18 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound on 2.2.x kernels Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 18:20:18 -0900 Message-ID: <199904010320.SAA00578@wdm.com> In-Reply-To: <3702D9D4.54DF904@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3423310797504206450==" --===============3423310797504206450== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > Nick wrote: > >=20 > > A freind of mine just upgraded to the 2.2.4 kernel and he was previous > > running the 2.0.36 kernel (he was using oss for sound no problem) when he > > upgrade however, it seems the new kernel 2.2.4 (not sure about the 2.2.x > > kernels before 2.2.4) does not support OSS, he hasnt gotten it working > > under this kernel at least. and this is what he claims. Any > > ideas/comments/suggestions? > >=20 >=20 > Not right now, but I'm sure I will when I run into the same problem this > May when SuSE 6.1 comes out and I putz around to get sound working > again... Hmmm....... # uname -a=20 Linux wdm 2.2.5 #1 SMP Mon Mar 29 23:33:28 AKST 1999 i586 SuSE 6.0 cat /dev/sndstat OSS/Linux 3.9.2g (C) 4Front Technologies 1996-1999 License serial number: XXXXXXXXXX Options: AWE This copy of OSS is licensed to Dee McKinney Build: 2.2.5-SMP Card config:=20 Generic PnP support SoundBlaster AWE64 Gold at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1,5 OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 SB MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 5 Emu 8000 Synthesizer Engine at 0x620 Audio devices: 0: Creative SB AWE64 Gold (4.16) (DUPLEX) 1: SB secondary device (DUPLEX) Synth devices: 0: Yamaha OPL-3 1: AWE32-0.4.2 (RAM4096k) Midi devices: 0: Sound Blaster 16 Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: 0: Sound Blaster 1: AWE32 Equalizer --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Head to http://www.4front-tech.com> and upgrade your copy of OSS/L= inux to=20 one for the newer kernel. Best Regards -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3423310797504206450==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr 1 03:49:59 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] isapnp.conf now works :-) BUT kppp still says modem busy Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 22:49:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3702ECE7.DF2A3C8D@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <3702BFD9.DB49240B@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8086245553328055830==" --===============8086245553328055830== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Star Rubies wrote: > Hi there, > > Thanks for the help! There were lots of weird M type characters in the .conf > file, I fixed it ran pnpdump and got the following output: > > [start] > lspci not found, so PCI resource conflict not checked > Board 1 has Identity a9 ff ff ff ff 36 42 63 0e: CSC4236 Serial No -1 [che= cksum > a9] > Board 2 has Identity 7b fe db eb ab 31 30 72 56: USR3031 Serial No 4275825= 579 > [checksum 7b] > Board USR3030/-1612403801 not found - skipping > [end] > > So I told YaST that the modem lived under Com1, entered ISP info and namese= rver. > Made sure there was no .lock in ppp/options and punched all the info in kpp= p, > but it still just says "modem busy" > > In the BIOS setup, I set the irq for Com1 to ISA type instead of PCi/PnP > > And under the motherboard options I changed com1 form auto to disbaled. > > So I'm baffled again, but at least something has been accomplished :-) > > Please help if you can, Cheers! > Dom Hi Dom I dont want to seem pendanic but... IMO kppp only "looks" easier to use. Pros Has a nice gui, time online, etc mouse click on/off some possible accounting = of time spent online Cons you *must* be in k to use it! this rules out any other xwindow rules out command line rules out cron- diald its *slow*... ;-) you use a mouse (yech) Id heartily recommend wvdial to get up and running initially wvdial will *FIND* your modem!!! it will at the very least give you the corre= ct ttyS? or let you know if the modem is even available wvdial works from anywhere (exception of diald) to use type wvdial, to close ctrl c thats it! once your up and runnning then go for suseppp so you can use diald and cron as usual... see my page for the wvdial file and the suseppp scripts have fun rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8086245553328055830==-- From mlmayo@texas.net Thu Apr 1 03:55:34 1999 From: mlmayo@texas.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound on 2.2.x kernels Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:55:34 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2724292757885207614==" --===============2724292757885207614== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I had the same problem. Just go to the oss website and get the upgrade for 2.2.x . = http://www.opensound.com> or for info about the OSS free http://www.4front-tech.com/ossfree> (I think this = is no longer supported?) Hope this helps, Mike On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Nick wrote: >=20 >=20 > A freind of mine just upgraded to the 2.2.4 kernel and he was previous > running the 2.0.36 kernel (he was using oss for sound no problem) when he > upgrade however, it seems the new kernel 2.2.4 (not sure about the 2.2.x > kernels before 2.2.4) does not support OSS, he hasnt gotten it working > under this kernel at least. and this is what he claims. Any > ideas/comments/suggestions? >=20 > - Nick >=20 >=20 > On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > Terry Eck wrote: > > >=20 > > > Koen Dejonghe wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I bought an OSS license from = http://www.4front-tech.com/= > just before the 2.2 > > > > kernel was out. I'm on 2.0.36 (SuSE 6.0) right now. > > > > I think the new kernel has extensive support for sound. I'd like to h= ear from > > > > people who have experience with sound on 2.2.x kernels, and whether i= t was a > > > > dumb thing to do to spend 30 US$ on something that is now a built-in. > > >=20 > > > Depends on you sound card. I'm using a SB 16 non-PNP which has always > > > worked well under Linux both with kernel 2.0.36 and 2.2.3 (better > > > under the 2.2.x series) > > >=20 > >=20 > > And I am using the OPLA chip set which will probably always require the > > OSS software... > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/S= upport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > >=20 >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2724292757885207614==-- From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 04:25:40 1999 From: chuckwm_98@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] getting laptop installed with 6.0 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 20:25:40 -0800 Message-ID: <19990401042540.20783.rocketmail@web203.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3920268187501602744==" --===============3920268187501602744== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have not been able to upgrade my laptop from 5.2.=20 When pcmcia module is loaded memory_cs doesn't get loaded. So it cannot detect the ethernet card. If someone could shed some light on this I would appreciate it. It starts the pcmcia services just fine...Just can't see the card. I have searched all over but no luck ;) Chuck _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3920268187501602744==-- From alfiesty@chaffee.net Thu Apr 1 05:23:56 1999 From: alfiesty@chaffee.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Electronic Funds Transfer Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 05:23:56 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990401052356.010c1680@chaffee.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Electronic Funds Transfer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1654084261301326972==" --===============1654084261301326972== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 06:22 PM 03/31/1999 -0800, you wrote: > >I've become interested in EFT. My interest is in creating software >which would initiate electronic transactions through the ACH system, both >debit and credit. I would like to give Linux and/or coders the ability to >have >users make secure payments electronically from a financial application over >the Internet. While I have no interest in writing the next Quicken, I >would like to give whomever does write financial software the ability to >give users the option of paying bills electronically. > >Does anyone know of a resource for learning the ACH system well enough >to send money through it? >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > Our company writes Direct Deposit programs that integrate with AccPak Internationals accounting program.(in DOS and Windows) The "National Automated Clearing House Association" publishes a annual=20 book titled "ACH Rules - Corperate Edition" which outlines all NACHA guidelines. National Automated Clearing House Association 13665 Dulles Technology Drive, Suite 300 Herndon, Virginia 20171 703-561-1100 HTH Jim -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1654084261301326972==-- From sabinelr@email.msn.com Thu Apr 1 06:13:54 1999 From: sabinelr@email.msn.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Same thing happens with kde Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 22:13:54 -0800 Message-ID: <000b01be7c06$d26d9ec0$0d4bfdd0@dracula> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3191733898745970495==" --===============3191733898745970495== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have tried to run kde with two different installs. Each time all the kde applications (kwm example supplied here) says this same thing: kwm: error in loading shared libraries /opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol: resizeEvent__14QMultiLineEditP12QResizeEvent It's probably something simple, but I am sure I don't know what. Thanks Larry Certified Seat Filler -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3191733898745970495==-- From budr@sirinet.net Thu Apr 1 08:04:50 1999 From: budr@sirinet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Same thing happens with kde Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 02:04:50 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Same thing happens with kde> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1730491660516470561==" --===============1730491660516470561== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Larry Sabine" writes: > I have tried to run kde with two different installs. Each time all the kde > applications (kwm example supplied here) says this same thing: >=20 > kwm: error in loading shared libraries > /opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol: > resizeEvent__14QMultiLineEditP12QResizeEvent Do you have Qt libs installed? If so, what version, and what version of KDE? Sounds like the version of Qt libs it's finding are too old. I ran into that once when I had an old version in /usr/local/qt and an newer version in /usr/qt. Just a thought. --=20 Bud Rogers http://www.sirine= t.net/~budr/zamm.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1730491660516470561==-- From cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl Thu Apr 1 08:29:03 1999 From: cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] gnucash... only problems Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:29:03 +0200 Message-ID: <19990401102903.A27259@griend.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] gnucash... only problems> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4836217966555482591==" --===============4836217966555482591== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 01:17:30PM +0200, Wybo Dekker wrote: >> Do you have '/usr/local/lib/' in '/etc/ld.so.conf' and did you run >> '/sbin/ldconfig' as root? >=20 > Yes, /usr/local/lib/ was there and I don't know if /sbin/ldconfig had > been run, but after I did it, just to be sure, the results were the same... Well, you have done all the obvious things correct. I can't think of another matter to check. Succes, Cees. --=20 batlh qelDI' tlhIngan, lumbe'. A Klingon does not postpone a matter of honor. Mark Okrand, "Star Trek: The Klingon Way - A Warrier's Guide" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4836217966555482591==-- From im@hem.passagen.se Thu Apr 1 08:39:22 1999 From: im@hem.passagen.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Strange behavior of mp3 players... Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:39:22 +0200 Message-ID: <370330BA.A6ECEDE7@hem.passagen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6245768142562842026==" --===============6245768142562842026== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why does my mp3 players (all i've tried) play mp3 files to slow? No matter if i created them under linux or not they ALL run just a tad to slow... All Wav's and au's play fine... I run 6.0 with 2.2.3 kernel on a PII 266/128 Mb The soundcard is a SB16pnp... I have tried the same software on a P133/64 Mb and a legacy SB16 card. Same thing: Too slow... Any ideas? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6245768142562842026==-- From ljackson@techlinks.com Thu Apr 1 09:38:07 1999 From: ljackson@techlinks.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] YAST masquerade setting Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 01:38:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7472606156709176415==" --===============7472606156709176415== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello: Is there an appropriate place via YAST or the rc.config for that matter where I can set the following: /sbin/ipfwadm -F -p masquerade ..I have to manually run this every time I start my server in order for my Win95 clients to have access to the net. I'd prefer if this were run every time I start or re-start box Linux SuSE 6.0 box. Also, are there additional ipfwadm commands/options I have to run in order to permit UDP packets into my box? All my Win95 clients who listen to RealAudio or RealVideo content via RTSP or PNA with UDP packets don't come in. As a result, RealNetwork's smart networking feature kicks in and sends them with a TCP header to get through. =20 Consequently, there's a poorer performance. Thanks Lester -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7472606156709176415==-- From ljackson@techlinks.com Thu Apr 1 09:46:03 1999 From: ljackson@techlinks.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Can't ping any Win95 client(s) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 01:46:03 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Can't ping any Win95 client(s)> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4449339485714374003==" --===============4449339485714374003== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry for the late reply. First of all, you must have two ethernet cards. One for your firewall and one for your network. eth0 is to the internet and eth1 is to your network. If you have a direct connection to the net as I did, whether DHCP or a static IP from your ISP, eth0 should be already configured. You only need to: route add -net 192.168.1.0 gw 192.168.1.1 ..where 192.168.1.1 is the IP you assigned to your second ethernet card in your server. Set each Win95 client in your home/business to 192.168.1.x where X is greater than 1 and less than 255. Set the gateway of each client to 192.168.1.1. Also set your DNS in your Win95 clients to all the IP's found in your /etc/resolv.conf The reason my IP's where getting messed up was because my dumb ISP was using a DHCP server that didn't follow the RFC spec and was timing out every 30 minutes. When it came to releasing my IP, it couldn't give it back to me and was sending rubbage on the wire. Now that I have a static IP, all is well. Last but not least, you MUST call: /sbin/ipfwadm -F -p masquerade Why? I don't know. It's just required and it WORKS! Good luck! Lester On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Jack Chu wrote: > Hey there Lester, >=20 > I intend to do the same thing, but i also am running into the same problems > as you. I can not ping my gateway with my Win95 Machine. Plus my route > tables get messed up also. If you get an answer could you e-mail me with > your solution also. Thanks >=20 > Jack >=20 >=20 > On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:05:19 -0800 (PST), ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote: >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > ...after recompiling my kernel with IP Forwarding and Masquerading > > support. I can only ping my SuSE Linux gateway (i.e. eth1 with > > 192.168.1.1) from any Win95 clients on my local network. > > Given the output from the link to my dmesg/ifconfig/route > > results web page posted at: > >=20 > > http://www.techlinks.com/helpme.txt> > >=20 > > ...is there anything obvious that would suggest what the problem may be? > > I'm simply trying to configure my Linux box with two network cards...1 to > > connect to my ADSL router and the other to connect to my internal network > > (i.e. 192.168.1.0). > >=20 > > Thanks > >=20 > > Lester > >=20 > > NOTE: If this is not an appropriate place to post this message, please > > say so. I felt this border lined support/forum material. I'm merely > > looking for other SuSE users who may have experienced this. Thanks > again. > >=20 > >=20 > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/S= upport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________________ > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4449339485714374003==-- From grimmer@suse.de Thu Apr 1 10:04:32 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] YAST masquerade setting Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:04:32 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4768780813575804234==" --===============4768780813575804234== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote: > Is there an appropriate place via YAST or the rc.config for that matter > where I can set the following: >=20 > /sbin/ipfwadm -F -p masquerade >=20 > ..I have to manually run this every time I start my server in order for my > Win95 clients to have access to the net. I'd prefer if this were run > every time I start or re-start box Linux SuSE 6.0 box. >=20 > Also, are there additional ipfwadm commands/options I have to run in > order to permit UDP packets into my box? All my Win95 clients who > listen to RealAudio or RealVideo content via RTSP or PNA with UDP > packets don't come in. As a result, RealNetwork's smart networking > feature kicks in and sends them with a TCP header to get through. =20 > Consequently, there's a poorer performance. Have a look at the package "firewall". It will add the required variables to /etc/rc.config to set up firewalling/masquerading. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4768780813575804234==-- From kester@cwcom.net Thu Apr 1 11:36:07 1999 From: kester@cwcom.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PPP has me flummoxed! Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:36:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000701be7c53$a0fe4220$2b0d1280@kester> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] PPP has me flummoxed!> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6594197274223254295==" --===============6594197274223254295== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have you used Yast to set the localhost name and your isp stuff? When you say you can never get it too work, I presume you *can* get it to work ocassionally? It's true, as many say on the list, that wvdial is very easy to use and you can forget PPP, as it maintains the CHAP and PAP secrets files automatically. Er, of course, you have to able to connect first in order to download wvdial! ;-) Have you tried kppp? That's also an 'easy' way in... but I would go with wvdial first. diald can be turned off using 'no' in answer to the question Yast poses for /etc/rc.config, or just edit it yourself and run SuSEconfig. k. :My primary problem is that I can never get PPP to work more than a couple :of times in a row -- that is, if I can get it to work at all, which is :rare these days. I'm sure that it has something to do with my :configuration, listed at the end of this mail, and especially with my :hostname and machine name configuration. I have a stand-alone computer :hooked into an ISP with a modem and have no immediate plans to network :with my other Win98 computer at home. Do I even need a hostname or a :machine name? I'm totally confused, and it seems that those of us with :stand-alone systems are kind of glossed over in the how-to's and :man-pages. : :Another problem is that I get the "cannot determine local host name, use :the servername directive to set it manually" message every time I boot :up. I plan to take LenZ Grimmer's suggestion to get that fixed up, and I :suspect it's somehow related to my PPP problem. : :A second problem is that diald starts dialing away furiously upon bootup :even before I can log on. Again, I will take the advice of others who :have posted this month to the list. : :The final problem is that I can play all sorts of sounds on the media :player when I'm in KDE, but KDE itself will only rarely play system :sounds when I type in "kaudioserver" at a terminal prompt. I can live :without sound, though I should demand it of my system since setting up :the soundcard was such a nightmare. : :I've tinkered this PPP thing to death, am sure that I've bungled it up :royally, but greatly appreciate the help I've gotten by gleaning the :archives of this list back to early last summer. I only wish I had found :this list sooner than about 10 days ago. I will do my best to help others :who find themselves in sticky situations that I've somehow managed to :avoid or climb of. : : -Mike McCullough : Dallas, Texas : : : : -----------Pertinent file snippets below-------------- : : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D :/etc/suseppp/diald/generic.diald file : :device /dev/ttyS2 : -m ppp :speed 230400 :two-way :local 127.0.0.3 :remote 206.124.64.253 :reroute :defaultroute :dynamic :disconnect-timeout 120 :redial-timeout 30 :dial-fail-limit 5 :fifo /var/run/diald.ctl : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D : : : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D :/etc/ppp/suseppp/chat-secrets file : :# example for /etc/ppp/suseppp/chat-secrets : :# client server pw iplist :GTE/mccullm * mypassword : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D : : : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D :/etc/hosts.conf file : :# :# /etc/host.conf :# :# Automatically generated by SuSEconfig on Sun Mar 14 12:12:51 CST 1999. :# :# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! :# :# Change variables (NAMESERVER + YP_SERVER) in /etc/rc.config instead. :# :# :order hosts bind :multi on : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D : : : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D :/etc/hosts file (I think there is probably a problem here) : :# :# hosts This file describes a number of hostname-to-address :# mappings for the TCP/IP subsystem. It is mostly :# used at boot time, when no name servers are running. :# On small systems, this file can be used instead of a :# "named" name server. :# Syntax: :# :# IP-Address Full-Qualified-Hostname Short-Hostname :# : :127.0.0.1 localhost :127.0.0.2 texas texas : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D : : : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D :/etc/suseppp/generic.options file : :# :# /etc/suseppp :# :# Automatically generated by SuSEconfig on Sun Mar 14 12:44:59 _ :# CST 1999. :# :# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! :# :# Change variables in /etc/rc.config instead :# :# : :name "GTE/mccullm" ::206.124.64.253 :noipdefault :remotename gte.net :mru 1500 :debug : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D : : : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D :/etc/suseppp/generic.chat file : :TIMEOUT 60 :ABORT "NO CARRIER" :ABORT BUSY :ABORT "NO DIALTONE" :ABORT ERROR :"" +++ATZ :OK ATDT214-210-0645 :CONNECT "" : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D : : : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D :pertinent portions of /etc/rc.config file : :# :# /etc/rc.config :# :# Copyright (c) 1996,98 SuSE GmbH Nuernberg, Germany. All rights _ :# reserved. :# : :[snip] : :# :# start loopback networking? ("yes" or "no") :# :START_LOOPBACK=3D"yes" : :# :# networking :# :# number of network cards: "_0" for one, "_0 _1 _2 _3" for four cards :# :NETCONFIG=3D"_0" : :# :# IP Adresses :# :IPADDR_0=3D"" :IPADDR_1=3D"" :IPADDR_2=3D"" :IPADDR_3=3D"" : :# :# network device names (e.g. "eth0") :# :NETDEV_0=3D"ppp0" :NETDEV_1=3D"" :NETDEV_2=3D"" :NETDEV_3=3D"" : :# :# parameteres for ifconfig, if you put "bootp" into it, bootp will :# be used to configure it :# sample entry for ethernet: :# IFCONFIG_0=3D"192.168.81.38 broadcast 192.168.81.63 netmask _ :# 255.255.255.224" :# :IFCONFIG_0=3D"0.0.0.0 pointopoint 0.0.0.0 up" :IFCONFIG_1=3D"" :IFCONFIG_2=3D"" :IFCONFIG_3=3D"" : :# :# setup dummy network device for IPADDR_0? this is useful for non _ :# permanent network connections (e.g. SLIP, PPP). Some software _ :# needs a connection to FQHOSTNAME (e.g. plp). (yes, no) :SETUPDUMMYDEV=3Dyes : :# :# Do you want the "dynamic IP patch" to be enabled at bootup? (yes/no) :# :IP_DYNIP=3Dno : :# :# 2 you can configure at runtime, if the host may forward :# IP packages or not. Is this host a router? (yes/no) :# :IP_FORWARD=3Dno : : :# :# SuSEconfig can do some checks and modifications for /etc/hosts. :# If this is not wanted, set the following variable to 'no' (yes, no). :# :CHECK_ETC_HOSTS=3Dyes : :# :# If CHECK_ETC_HOSTS is set to yes, SuSEconfig sorts your :# /etc/hosts. But in some cases this may be unwanted. So here is a :# flag, where you can configure if /etc/hosts should be "beautified". :# (yes/no) :# :BEAUTIFY_ETC_HOSTS=3Dyes : :# :# if SORT_PASSWD_BY_UID is set to yes, SuSEconfig sorts your :# /etc/passwd and /etc/group by uid/gid. :# :SORT_PASSWD_BY_UID=3Dno : : :# :# hostname of the system (full name) :# if zero, and bootp is used above, bootp will also set the hostname :# (e.g. "riemann.suse.de" or "hugo.linux.de") :# don't forget to also edit /etc/hosts for your system :# :FQHOSTNAME=3D"texas" : :[snip] : :# :# Should NIS be used for name resolving (yes/no) :# :USE_NIS_FOR_RESOLVING=3Dno : :# :# domain searchlist that should be used in /etc/resolv.conf :# (e.g. "suse.de linux.de uni-stuttgart.de") :# Attention! this has to be filled out, if you want to access a _ :# name server :# :SEARCHLIST=3D"gte.net" : :# :# space separated list of nameservers that should be used for _ :# /etc/resolv.conf :# give a maximum of 3 IP numbers :# (e.g. "192.168.116.11 192.168.7.7") :# :NAMESERVER=3D"206.124.64.253 206.124.65.253" : :# :# Used for News-Postings. :# :ORGANIZATION=3D"" : :# :# News server. :# :NNTPSERVER=3D"news" : :# :# space separated list of irc servers :# :IRCSERVER=3D"" : :# :# start the inet daemon in multi-user? ("yes" or "no") :# this is needed, if you have to telnet/rlogin to your own machine. :# It is also needed for the man page formatter in SuSE Help system :# and for starting the plp lp daemon. :# :START_INETD=3D"no" : :[snip] : :# :# start routed (for dynamic routing - see man routed) (yes/no) :# ATTENTION: starting routed causes net traffic every 30 seconds. :# If your host is connected to internet via dial-up it makes :# absolutely no sense to activate it. :# :START_ROUTED=3Dno : :# :# start the named (package bind)? You have to configure the named :# first, before you can start it (man named). :# :START_NAMED=3Dno : :[snip] : :# :# search net paths as ? (e.g. nobody) :# :UPDATEDB_NETUSER=3D"" : :[snip] : :# :# SuSE-PPP settings :# : :# Provider name. `SuSEConfig -list` returns a list of possible :# entries :PPP_PROVIDER_0=3D"generic" : :# Login name :PPP_USERNAME_0=3D"GTE/mccullm" : :# Set debug option? :PPP_DEBUG_0=3D"yes" : :# pppd options; e.g. "-vj mru=3D1500, asyncmap=3D0" :PPP_OPTIONS_0=3D"mru=3D1500" : :# Set defaultroute? :PPP_DEFAULT_ROUTE_0=3D"yes" : :# This parameter is optional. :# Authentification (PAP, CHAP, TERMINAL) :PPP_AUTHENT_0=3D"PAP" : :# These parameters are optional :# Name, IP address of the remote system : :PPP_REMOTENAME_0=3D"gte.net" :PPP_REMOTEIP_0=3D"206.124.64.253" : :# Name, IP address of the local system :PPP_LOCALIP_0=3D"" :PPP_LOCALNAME_0=3D"" : :# These parameters are optional and :# should be obtained from provider database :# nameserver of the peer :PPP_NAMESERVER_0=3D"206.124.64.253 206.124.65.253" : :# http proxy server :PPP_WWW_PROXY_0=3D"" : :# news server :PPP_NEWS_0=3D"" : :# This parameter is obsolete :PPP_SETUP_NETWORK_0=3D"" : :# Remote station phone number :PPP_REMOTE_OUT_0=3D"214-210-0645" : :# Device to dial out :PPP_DEVICE_0=3D"/dev/ttyS2" : :# Modem settings :# Here you can do some special initializing for your modem. : :# Obtain the correct string from your vendors manual :MODEM_INIT_0=3D"ATZ" : :# Modem speed (e.g. 57600) :MODEM_SPEED_0=3D"230400" : :# This string will be placed before the number :# to dial the modem. This can also be used to :# to get a line (e.g. "ATDT0w") :MODEM_DIAL_MODE_0=3D"ATDT" : :# start diald? :PPP_DIALD_0=3D"yes" : :[snip to end] : : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D : : : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D :Output of route -n (definitely a problem here!) : :Kernel IP routing table :Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface :206.124.64.253 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 1 0 1 sl0 :127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo :0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 1 0 1 sl0 : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D : : : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D :Output of pppstats : : :IN PACK VJCOMP VJUNC VJERR | OUT PACK VJCOMP VJUNC NON-VJ : 0 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 0 : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D : : : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D :Output of pertinent portions of dmesg (hmmm, last line is bothersome) : :[snip] : :Probing PCI hardware. :Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 400.59 BogoMIPS :Memory: 127712k/131008k available (768k kernel code, 384k reserved, _ : 2144k data) :Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0 :NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035. :Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034 :IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP :Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting. :Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok. :Linux version 2.0.36 (root(a)Texas) (gcc driver version egcs-2.91.60 _ : 19981201 (egcs-1.1.1 release) executing gcc version 2.7.2.3) #18 _ : Thu Mar 4 19:52:41 CST 1999 : :[snip] : :PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation) :TCP compression code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of _ : California :PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc. :PPP line discipline registered. :SLIP: version 0.8.4-NET3.019-NEWTTY (dynamic channels, max=3D256). :CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California. :SLIP linefill/keepalive option. :Partition check: : hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 > hda4 :VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. :Adding Swap: 130748k swap-space (priority -1) :ttyS2: 1 input overrun(s) :PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation) :PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc. :PPP line discipline registered. :registered device ppp0 :PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistered :PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation) :PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc. :PPP line discipline registered. :registered device ppp0 :PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistered : :=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D : : :_____________________________________ :Michael R. McCullough :Manager, Regulatory Affairs and Compliance :Mary Kay Holding Corporation :Dallas, Texas : : :"A Consultant or Director is not a cold statistic -- she is a :flesh-and-blood human being with feeling and emotions like our own." : : -Mary Kay Ash : -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6594197274223254295==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Thu Apr 1 12:08:42 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] weird Netscape451_glibc problem Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 07:08:42 -0500 Message-ID: <370361CA.B55B29F0@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] weird Netscape451_glibc problem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5755091169044983320==" --===============5755091169044983320== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hhv wrote: >=20 > zentara wrote: > > gives me an error message: > > "cannot load libm.so.5" and then > > it proceeds to run fine. > > > > An ldd of the executable shows no dependency at > > all for libm.so.5, and furthermore, I have libm.so.5.09 > > in my cache. > > Anyone knows what gives? Why did it run fine yesterday, and today > > give this message? I find this worrisome. >=20 > Try to link libm.so.5.09 to libm.so.5 >=20 > I haven't yet installed 4.51 yet. But I checked 4.5 > It's not linked against libm, but against libg++ and libstdc++, which > inturn are linked against libm. >=20 I checked the rvplayer5.0 (RealAudio) which I have setup for netscape, and it needs libm.so.5, according to it's ldd. It works fine, but gives that message. Maybe RealAudio is building executables that can use either libc5 or libc6? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5755091169044983320==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Thu Apr 1 12:12:15 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Seattle Times: States want Microsoft to auction off Windows coding Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 07:12:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3703629F.991C8A7F@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Seattle Times: States want Microsoft to auction off Windows coding> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7870797556329503615==" --===============7870797556329503615== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Fred A. Miller" wrote: >=20 > zentara wrote: > > > > "Fred A. Miller" wrote: > > > > > > http://www.seattletimes.com/news/local/html98/micx_19990328.html> > > > > I'll bid 5 bucks $US. >=20 > 'You sure it isn't too much? >=20 Well to be fair, I should cover the cdrom and postage costs. :-) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7870797556329503615==-- From sinthetk@inlink.com Thu Apr 1 12:38:21 1999 From: sinthetk@inlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Same thing happens with kde Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 06:38:21 -0600 Message-ID: <370368BD.52D76C4F@inlink.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Same thing happens with kde> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2547139950854043683==" --===============2547139950854043683== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Larry Sabine wrote: >=20 > I have tried to run kde with two different installs. Each time all the kde > applications (kwm example supplied here) says this same thing: >=20 > kwm: error in loading shared libraries > /opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol: > resizeEvent__14QMultiLineEditP12QResizeEvent >=20 > It's probably something simple, but I am sure I don't know what. > Thanks > Larry > Certified Seat Filler I had the same problem, I downloaded all the new files...and KDE puked at every turn. I had qt 1.42 installed..and everything looked all good. I got the same errors, and after several hours of messing with it..I just smiled and thanked god for my pretty and functional WindowMaker 0.51.2 :) I would be interest in knowing the solution to this problem..cause hell even when I reinstall the older version off the 6.0 cd's it fails..and I can figure out why..the only other program that I can't seem to get to behave is GNUcash, but that is another story. *laugh* laters, --=20 Ben Rosenberg ----------------||--------------------- "Whatever separates you from the truth, throw it away, it will vanish anyhow."=20 ----------------||--------------------- mailto:sinthetk(a)inlink.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2547139950854043683==-- From sinthetk@inlink.com Thu Apr 1 12:50:22 1999 From: sinthetk@inlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture? Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 06:50:22 -0600 Message-ID: <37036B8E.5BBB4D87@inlink.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0345128613494996087==" --===============0345128613494996087== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nothing against kppp, but i seem to see everyone having lots of problems with it and no one seems to be trying ezppp or xisp which work without much of a headache...give either of those a try..I have used both. Right now I am fond of ezppp :) Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > Yatsen Ng wrote: > > > > I configured Kppp (in the KDE wm) and initially I get a connection but > > then it dies (unexpectedly! - is this a joke? Was he shot? I imagine > > that if he'd died after long term illness he died 'expectedly'). Why is > > that? I didn't do anything out of the ordinary nor did I add any > > >=20 > More than likely it is one or both of two possibilities: > 1. Your /etc/ppp/option file has a line starting with "Lock" in it. > Empty that file. > 2. Your /usr/sbin/pppd file is lacking su permission. As root issue > "chmod a+s /usr/sbin/pppd". Unless you change /etc/permissions to tell > YaST what you want on pppd it will strip suid off of pppd every time it > is run. --=20 Ben Rosenberg ----------------||--------------------- "Whatever separates you from the truth, throw it away, it will vanish anyhow."=20 ----------------||--------------------- mailto:sinthetk(a)inlink.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0345128613494996087==-- From raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu Thu Apr 1 13:32:00 1999 From: raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound on 2.2.x kernels Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 08:32:00 -0500 Message-ID: <37037550.96FD4B42@neuronet.pitt.edu> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Sound on 2.2.x kernels> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3168430763019771468==" --===============3168430763019771468== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The version for 2.0.36 would run on kernels up to 2.0.99 :) You just have to go to http://www.4front-tech.com/> for the newest versio= n and upgrade. --=20 Rafael Herrera Laboratory for Computational Neuroscience University of Pittsburgh http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~raffo> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3168430763019771468==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 1 13:32:43 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] weird Netscape451_glibc problem Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:32:43 +0200 Message-ID: <3703757B.1DD407D4@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <370361CA.B55B29F0@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6208583584531983827==" --===============6208583584531983827== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable zentara wrote: >=20 >=20 > I checked the rvplayer5.0 (RealAudio) which I have setup for netscape, > and it needs libm.so.5, according to it's ldd. > It works fine, but gives that message. > Maybe RealAudio is building executables that can use > either libc5 or libc6? Sorry, cant comment on that. I'm not using *players Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - h.vossieck(a)ndh.net - http://www.n= dh.net/home/vossieck/> 49 2291 3010/6519 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6208583584531983827==-- From phostetl@columbus.rr.com Thu Apr 1 14:06:41 1999 From: phostetl@columbus.rr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] YAST masquerade setting Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:06:41 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8955403052575645248==" --===============8955403052575645248== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > Have a look at the package "firewall". It will add the required variables > to /etc/rc.config to set up firewalling/masquerading. Will it permit DHCP on one NIC and a static IP (192.168.0.x) on another? I get a DHCP address from Road Runner. I don't recall seeing an answer to this question. Thanks, Paul Hostetler -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8955403052575645248==-- From grimmer@suse.de Thu Apr 1 14:26:51 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] YAST masquerade setting Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:26:51 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1950858038551899985==" --===============1950858038551899985== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Paul Hostetler wrote: > On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > > Have a look at the package "firewall". It will add the required variables > > to /etc/rc.config to set up firewalling/masquerading. >=20 > Will it permit DHCP on one NIC and a static IP (192.168.0.x) on > another? I get a DHCP address from Road Runner. I don't recall seeing > an answer to this question. No, this does not work with the current DHCP client configuration - sorry! Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1950858038551899985==-- From paulken@metaphor.no Thu Apr 1 14:39:25 1999 From: paulken@metaphor.no To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Networking, DHCP Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:39:25 +0100 Message-ID: <3703851D.B86E5258@metaphor.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7794319860911351971==" --===============7794319860911351971== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This week we were having a little work session where we needed to set up four PCs in a network. We borrowed a hub and an ISDN router and set out to do our thing. Put in the ip addresses for the network cards, and checked the set up of networking options, and connected the computers to the network. No joy. Tried two computers with a crossed network cable. No joy. Tried the same in windows. Much joy. OK, tried the DHCP setup from yast. No joy. Just one packet got through from one of the computers (could see the router dialing) but then nothing. In windows, joy. What on earth is going on here, I've done this before, (just networking two comps off one crossed TP cable) and it worked flawlessly. Anything? --=20 Paul Kenneth Egell-Johnsen Sales Support and System Development Metaphor Systems as -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7794319860911351971==-- From senthil@easi.soft.net Thu Apr 1 14:44:01 1999 From: senthil@easi.soft.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Boot floppy Error Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 20:14:01 +0530 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1231881680013738526==" --===============1231881680013738526== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, When I boot from the installation boot floppy, I get error like : boot: loading linux .... error 0x10 What does that signify ? Also how do I create a duplicate installation boot floppy. So that I can keep my original safe. Also what does the error " error 0x9" signify for the above mentioned problem ? Regards, Senthil Vel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1231881680013738526==-- From Burt_Philip@emc.com Thu Apr 1 15:01:56 1999 From: Burt_Philip@emc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture? Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:01:56 -0500 Message-ID: <926A591C08E3D211960600E029101CCC3D0FA8@mxclsa> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2562110777350307263==" --===============2562110777350307263== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just last night, I got kppp working with my modem. The modem was the biggest pain (pnp Boca SoundExpression combo sound/modem card -- had to disable pnp OS setting from BIOS, and configure the modem to be on ttyS3). Once I had the modem working (verified with minicom), kppp was a cinch! The biggest problems I had with kppp were caused by Yast setting the permissions on pppd incorrectly. As a newbie, I didn't want to deal with the low-level ppp crud right away. Kppp did a nice job of hiding this from me. I feel that the biggest improvement that could be made to kppp is in the area of diagnostics. As a newbie, I had a tough time figuring out where the output from pppd was getting dumped. I also had a tough time figuring out that my ISP might not be using the "default" ppp login method (mine uses CHAP). Give me a couple weeks and maybe I will attempt to add these enhancements. First I had to download and compile 2.2.4 to get the framebuffer device working so I could use my S3 Trio3D graphics card. Then I had to pound on my crazy modem. Sound is the next challenge! Wish me luck. -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin A. Rosenberg [mailto:= sinthetk(a)inlink.com] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 7:50 AM To: Suse Mailing List Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture? nothing against kppp, but i seem to see everyone having lots of problems with it and no one seems to be trying ezppp or xisp which work without much of a headache...give either of those a try..I have used both. Right now I am fond of ezppp :) Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > Yatsen Ng wrote: > > > > I configured Kppp (in the KDE wm) and initially I get a connection but > > then it dies (unexpectedly! - is this a joke? Was he shot? I imagine > > that if he'd died after long term illness he died 'expectedly'). Why is > > that? I didn't do anything out of the ordinary nor did I add any > > >=20 > More than likely it is one or both of two possibilities: > 1. Your /etc/ppp/option file has a line starting with "Lock" in it. > Empty that file. > 2. Your /usr/sbin/pppd file is lacking su permission. As root issue > "chmod a+s /usr/sbin/pppd". Unless you change /etc/permissions to tell > YaST what you want on pppd it will strip suid off of pppd every time it > is run. --=20 Ben Rosenberg ----------------||--------------------- "Whatever separates you from the truth, throw it away, it will vanish anyhow."=20 ----------------||--------------------- mailto:sinthetk(a)inlink.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2562110777350307263==-- From imm@KidsCare.Net Thu Apr 1 15:12:18 1999 From: imm@KidsCare.Net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ctrl alt fkey :( Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:12:18 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3805447413019503664==" --===============3805447413019503664== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I switch from kde F7 to one of the other terminals F1 - F6 it sometimes goes black doesn't do anything.Ctrl Alt F? doesn't help at all. Ctrl Alt Backspace does not work and i have to turn power off i hate this because I switch between terminals and kde often. Recently I have installed AcceleratedX 5.0 and=20 also upgraded kde to 1.1. Any info much appreciated=20 Thank you Ian Moore -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3805447413019503664==-- From ljackson@techlinks.com Thu Apr 1 15:31:25 1999 From: ljackson@techlinks.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Networking, DHCP Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 07:31:25 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3703851D.B86E5258@metaphor.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5234488338228916042==" --===============5234488338228916042== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paul: Tell me about the configuration of your server. Are there 2 ethernet cards or 1? What results when you execute /sbin/ifconfig and /sbin/route? I'm assuming you are assigning static IP's to each Win32 client on your network. Lester On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Paul Kenneth Egell-Johnsen wrote: >=20 > This week we were having a little work session where we needed to set up > four PCs in a network. We borrowed a hub and an ISDN router and set out > to do our thing. >=20 > Put in the ip addresses for the network cards, and checked the set up of > networking options, and connected the computers to the network. No joy. > Tried two computers with a crossed network cable. No joy. Tried the same > in windows. Much joy. >=20 > OK, tried the DHCP setup from yast. No joy. Just one packet got through > from one of the computers (could see the router dialing) but then > nothing. >=20 > In windows, joy. >=20 > What on earth is going on here, I've done this before, (just networking > two comps off one crossed TP cable) and it worked flawlessly. >=20 > Anything? > --=20 > Paul Kenneth Egell-Johnsen > Sales Support and System Development > Metaphor Systems as > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5234488338228916042==-- From p.may@fh-wolfenbuettel.de Thu Apr 1 15:35:59 1999 From: p.may@fh-wolfenbuettel.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] YAST masquerade setting Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:35:59 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2866075333151437520==" --===============2866075333151437520== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote: > Hello: > Is there an appropriate place via YAST or the rc.config for that matter > where I can set the following: > /sbin/ipfwadm -F -p masquerade > Thanks > Lester place a /sbin/masquerade in the /sbin/init.d/boot.local file now make a /sbin/masquerade file with -----------8<----------------- #!/bin/sh # #FIREWALL # echo "Firewall and Masquerading on" ipfwadm -I -p accept ipfwadm -I -f ipfwadm -O -p accept ipfwadm -O -f ipfwadm -F -p deny ipfwadm -F -f ipfwadm -F -a masquerade -S 192.168.66.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 -----------8<----------------- in it. and make it executable. now reboot and it sets it on each reboot automaticly. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2866075333151437520==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Thu Apr 1 15:50:16 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: R: [SuSE Linux] Letter to editor.... keeps Linux on the badlist Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:50:16 +0200 Message-ID: <370395B8.7E2F73D3@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4103664747057471167==" --===============4103664747057471167== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Karsten Johansson wrote: >=20 > zentara wrote: > > > > Someone recently wrote: > > > > > >There is a verse in the Bible, "arrogance comes before the fall." I > > > >personally hope that by in large, Linux users will show themselves to > > > >more than a bunch of "hackers' or "save-the-whale" types > > > > I think that Bible quote should be directed at Mr. Bill Gates. >=20 > Forget what happens before the fall. I want to see what happens in mid- > summer. :) >=20 hmmmm. nothing, what else? Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4103664747057471167==-- From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Thu Apr 1 15:52:41 1999 From: k01164@ko.sdu.dk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Humor... Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:52:41 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Humor...> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5626383147360526294==" --===============5626383147360526294== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd love to see the EULA for a Microsoft Chair (or stool). --=20 Regards Med venlig hilsen Ole Kofoed Hansen mailto:k01164(a)ko.sdu.dk ICQ-UIN: 25773325 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5626383147360526294==-- From WALKERSC@CIBC.CA Thu Apr 1 16:09:00 1999 From: WALKERSC@CIBC.CA To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] YAST masquerade setting Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 11:09:00 -0500 Message-ID: <199904011620.IAA12985@mail.suse.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] YAST masquerade setting> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1973842593925148695==" --===============1973842593925148695== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It is very simple to set up. Below is my config info =20 Paranoid.snurgle.org <- main linux box hooked up via ADSL \-192.168.1.1 <- Internal IP \- 209.226.67.216 Assigned ip via DHCP =20 ETH0 =3D Attached to cable modem ETH1 =3D Attached to internal network =20 All I did was, use yast to run the dhclient on eth0 9Altho the client=20 they give out it crap, I had to compile my own, 1.3.16 I belever the=20 version I use is), I then bring up ETH1, assign it's ip, and ipchains=20 to setup ip masq, and viola it works. I can go into more details if=20 you want. But it was quite simple. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] YAST masquerade setting Author: "Bob Easton" [SMTP:reaston(a)stny.lrun.com] at BCEEXCH Date: 3/31/99 10:56 AM On 1 Apr 99, at 16:26, Lenz Grimmer wrote: =20 > > Hi, > > On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Paul Hostetler wrote:=20 > > > On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > > > Have a look at the package "firewall". It will add the required variables=20 > > > to /etc/rc.config to set up firewalling/masquerading. > > > > Will it permit DHCP on one NIC and a static IP (192.168.0.x) on > > another? I get a DHCP address from Road Runner. I don't recall seeing=20 > > an answer to this question. > > No, this does not work with the current DHCP client configuration - sorry! > =20 LenZ, =20 What is the status of this development? [Not nagging here but I=20 *think* this works on RedHat, but I could be wrong.] I too wish=20 to use a SuSE box as my gateway between RoadRunner and my local=20 network. Is there *any* configuration that will work? I thought=20 I read something about having two dissimilar NICs (and drivers)=20 made things work. I'm about to buy a VA Research system and may=20 have to resort to RedHat (e-gads) if there is no way around=20 this! The RR system requires DHCP - but how about if I run DHCP=20 on my local network as well? Will SuSE run a DHCP client on one=20 NIC and a DHCP server on another? That is to say, is the problem=20 mainly with having a *static IP* on one NIC while running DHCP=20 on the other? Can we expect a fix for this soon? =20 Thanks in advance, Bob =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with=20 this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the=20 archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1973842593925148695==-- From hlarons@ComCAT.COM Thu Apr 1 16:48:02 1999 From: hlarons@ComCAT.COM To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Mysterious /var/log Message Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 11:48:02 -0500 Message-ID: <19990401114802.B327@BeagleDog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3070704109403468657==" --===============3070704109403468657== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just upgraded from kernel 2.0.33 to 2.0.36 via patch files from=20 SuSE's ftp site. Patching and compilation were error free; the new=20 kernel boots OK. Here's the mystery: I have PPP support compiled into the kernel, and=20 the usual PPP stuff is in the boot message. But, when I launch pppd in=20 my dialer script, these lines appears in /var/log/messages: Apr 1 10:58:51 localhost modprobe: can't locate module ppp0 Apr 1 10:58:51 localhost kernel: registered device ppp0 Why on earth is modprobe trying to load this? Howard Arons --=20 Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.36 Communications by Mutt 0.93.2 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3070704109403468657==-- From Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net Thu Apr 1 17:08:20 1999 From: Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Automatic module loading? Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:08:20 -0800 Message-ID: <3703A804.274F5DD1@gte.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3925268060528517809==" --===============3925268060528517809== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just recently I installed a parallel port based Zip250 drive on my box. It works quite well with the "imm" driver that the Zip plus drive uses.=20 I manually loaded the imm driver using insmod but when I tried to mount the Zip drive as a VFAT file system a bunch of errors spewed out of the kernel. I had built all of the FAT filesystem stuff into modules and I thought that modules would be loaded automatically. I ran "modprobe vfat" and then I was able to mount my Zip drive. Is there some trick to get modules to load/unload automatically? I see that things like my network card driver and sound stuff load automatically when needed but this doesn't seem to be the case for the FAT filesystem stuff.=20 My solution at this point will be to try loading the necessary modules for the zip drive from /sbin/init.d/boot.local.=20 Thanks, Tony --=20 Anthony.Schlemmer(a)gte.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3925268060528517809==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 1 17:30:04 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ctrl alt fkey :( Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 19:30:04 +0200 Message-ID: <3703AD1C.3752D12@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7146128786468954135==" --===============7146128786468954135== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Ian M. Moore" wrote: >=20 > When I switch from kde F7 to one of the other terminals F1 - F6 it > sometimes goes black doesn't do anything.=20 Although not working with kde, only X with some other WM, this happens to me sometmes, too. > Ctrl Alt F? doesn't help at all. because, if one vga console is 'black, the others are too. > Ctrl Alt Backspace does not work=20 because you are out of X/kde and i have to turn power off i hate this That shouldn't be necessary. (Has never been necessary for me) If I encounter this, I simply switch several times back and forth=20 between vga and graphics screen. Mostly after the second or third=20 try the vga screen re-appeares. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - h.vossieck(a)ndh.net - http://www.n= dh.net/home/vossieck/> 49 2291 3010/6519 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7146128786468954135==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Thu Apr 1 17:33:35 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: R: [SuSE Linux] Letter to editor.... keeps Linux on the badlist Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:33:35 -0800 Message-ID: <199904011733.JAA14349@www1.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2403681153362144910==" --===============2403681153362144910== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just the way I like it! Cheers! Karsten Johansson PS: April Fools, all... Scary thing for me is that it is also my payday. I= f=20 my accountant sez "April Fools" I'm gonna throw him. :) Juergen Braukmann wrote: > Karsten Johansson wrote: > >=20 > > zentara wrote: > > > > > > Someone recently wrote: > > > > > > > >There is a verse in the Bible, "arrogance comes before the fall." I > > > > >personally hope that by in large, Linux users will show themselves= to > > > > >more than a bunch of "hackers' or "save-the-whale" types > > > > > > I think that Bible quote should be directed at Mr. Bill Gates. > >=20 > > Forget what happens before the fall. I want to see what happens in mid- > > summer. :) > >=20 >=20 > hmmmm. nothing, what else? >=20 > Juergen >=20 > --=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ > Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ > Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_= /\_\ >=20 ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - http://orders.xoom.com/email> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2403681153362144910==-- From mperry@basin.com Thu Apr 1 18:04:46 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Humor... Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:04:46 -0800 Message-ID: <199904011804.KAA00444@speedy.linuxcare.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5963390061805837214==" --===============5963390061805837214== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1 Apr, Ole Kofoed Hansen wrote: >=20 >=20 > I'd love to see the EULA for a Microsoft Chair (or stool). >=20 The EULA for the MicroSoft certified chair. The Microsoft chair is now shipping. This chair includes some basic changes from the original design implementation. Microsoft development sources cite the removal of one leg as leading to more streamlined and optimized use. In addition the new design provides quick detachment of unwanted device drivers. Please read the attached licensing documentation carefully. Microsoft does not provide support for any injuries being caused by use of the new Microsoft chair. Please do not lean to the left if you purchased version 1.2 as that version is slightly buggy and was found to ship with only two legs on the right side. We have corrected that problem, sources close to Redmond say, and are now moving on to implementing NT 4 workstation optimization. When the chair disengages now we will see a Blue Screen on the backrest stating what failed and what to do in the future. Thanks for buying the Microsoft Chair. Now be careful. The Microsoft Chair development team thank you for purchasing innovative hardware from the source of innovation. Broken arms and legs resulting from accidental detachment are not the responsibility of Microsoft Corporation. Copyright 1999 and 1492, MS Corporation. --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com -------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5963390061805837214==-- From sinthetk@inlink.com Thu Apr 1 18:30:17 1999 From: sinthetk@inlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] libjpeg.so.62 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:30:17 -0600 Message-ID: <3703BB39.E47EB207@inlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8926467733791700066==" --===============8926467733791700066== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone please tell me where a package exists that will give me this specific file upon compiling it or installing via RPM? I really want to get GNUcash working. :) danke, --=20 Ben Rosenberg ----------------||--------------------- "Whatever separates you from the truth, throw it away, it will vanish anyhow."=20 ----------------||--------------------- mailto:sinthetk(a)inlink.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8926467733791700066==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Thu Apr 1 18:46:53 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Humor... Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:46:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3703BF1D.8D0989A8@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2449625316082997787==" --===============2449625316082997787== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ole Kofoed Hansen wrote: >=20 > I'd love to see the EULA for a Microsoft Chair (or stool). >=20 I'll bet they would include a statement "not responsible for viruses being passed via the chair" :-) ----- Ms. Mellisa ...Quality Control -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2449625316082997787==-- From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Thu Apr 1 20:03:15 1999 From: jboonen@Worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Linux in the card interresting subject, hobby product Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 22:03:15 +0200 Message-ID: <3703D103.A9291074@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5650102010251278597==" --===============5650102010251278597== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I have found this project on http://freshmeat.net/>. The link is: http://utter.chaos.org.uk/~altman/mp3= mobile/> and http://www.ptsi.net/user/compuwiz/ind= ex.html> Regards, Joop. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5650102010251278597==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Thu Apr 1 20:15:35 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: What DO you lose with Linux ??? Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:15:35 -0800 Message-ID: <199904012015.MAA00287@www1.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2473957418112290092==" --===============2473957418112290092== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Richard Ibbotson" wrote: >=20 > I get the impression that the music and composing side of things=20 > could be improved a bit ? You got the right impression. :) Linux has nothing to compare with Logic Audio and that sort of thing. It has= =20 some cheesey sequencers, but they are not very good, and are far from=20 professional quality and feature expectations. I think Linux has done well in the graphics department, and is continually=20 getting better. I guess there are more visual artists than audio artists in = the Linux world. Laters, Karsten ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - http://orders.xoom.com/email> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2473957418112290092==-- From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Thu Apr 1 20:59:37 1999 From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:59:37 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7394395329375290761==" --===============7394395329375290761== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7394395329375290761==-- From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Thu Apr 1 21:06:54 1999 From: jboonen@Worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Linux on the fast lane? Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 23:06:54 +0200 Message-ID: <3703DFED.2888F9CD@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5843334100328760233==" --===============5843334100328760233== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I found this article. Linus will move to Moscow to develop Linux for the Elbrus processor. http://www.sl= ashdot.org/articles/99/03/31/2324218.shtml> . Elbrus processor: http://www.elbrus.ru/pressrele= ase.html> . http:/= /www.elbrus.ru/> Regards, Joop Boonen. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5843334100328760233==-- From alex@daniloff.com Thu Apr 1 21:24:50 1999 From: alex@daniloff.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 22:24:50 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6695747163236621038==" --===============6695747163236621038== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all! If I assumed correctly it was a First April Joke! Take a closer look at these pictures. The most of them are fakes Thank=20 Alex At 09:59 PM 4/1/99 , you wrote: > > >http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.html<= /A> > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6695747163236621038==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Thu Apr 1 21:25:45 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Fortify for Netscape questions. Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:25:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3703E459.B3B823D0@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8659727383544959114==" --===============8659727383544959114== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I got the latest version of Fortify from=20 ht= tp://www.fortify.net/> to upgrade the security on the export version of Netscape451_glibc. I got it to work, but I compiled it myself from source instead of using the precompiled binaries. I found it odd that my compiled binaries were roughly 5 times as large as the precompiled ones. My binaries: -rwxr--r-- 1 zentara dialout 770651 Apr 1 16:02 fortify -rwxr--r-- 1 zentara dialout 454499 Apr 1 16:02 md5 Precompiled binaries: -rwxr-xr-x 1 zentara dialout 154948 Mar 30 09:36 fortify -rwxr-xr-x 1 zentara dialout 99324 Mar 30 09:36 md5 Anyone know why the size discrepancy? I can see a few K, but 500 percent? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8659727383544959114==-- From billmadsen@mindspring.com Thu Apr 1 21:27:49 1999 From: billmadsen@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Segmentation fault with GNOME's freecell Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 21:27:49 +0000 Message-ID: <3703e2b1.245218@mail.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1183954392266443186==" --===============1183954392266443186== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I keep getting a segmentation fault message when I try to start freecell under GNOME. I have installed all the recommended rpm's for Gnome , and I have encountered no problems. But I installed only freecell (with the cardgames library) from the games rpm because it's the only computer game I play. =20 Is there perhaps another program or library included in the games rpm that I should have installed? Or is there a problem with freecell? I have 64MB of swap space and 32MB of RAM. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Bill Madsen in St. Louis -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1183954392266443186==-- From imm@KidsCare.Net Thu Apr 1 21:29:43 1999 From: imm@KidsCare.Net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] ctrl alt fkey :( Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:29:43 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8214732800999326306==" --===============8214732800999326306== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable h.vossieck(a)ndh.net writes: >because you are out of X/kde > >and i have to turn power off i hate this > >That shouldn't be necessary. (Has never been necessary for me) >If I encounter this, I simply switch several times back and forth=20 >between vga and graphics screen. Mostly after the second or third=20 >try the vga screen re-appeares. The first time this happened I let it set for 1/2 hour then I tried switching consoles nothing werked. Thanks, Ian the sane -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8214732800999326306==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Thu Apr 1 22:11:56 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:11:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3703EF2C.9DA47813@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2822539233776903407==" --===============2822539233776903407== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable alexm wrote: >=20 > http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.html= > >=20 See Bill Gate's reaction to the Linux riot!!! http://www.mindspring.com/~zentar= a/headsup.jpg> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2822539233776903407==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 1 22:27:51 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] libjpeg.so.62 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 00:27:51 +0200 Message-ID: <3703F2E7.E8E80111@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <3703BB39.E47EB207@inlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1307977069637708103==" --===============1307977069637708103== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Benjamin A. Rosenberg" wrote: >=20 > Can anyone please tell me where a package exists that will give me this > specific file upon compiling it or installing via RPM? > I really want to get GNUcash working. :) ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/j= peg/jpegsrc.v6b.tar.gz> The same is contained in the following rpm: ftp://contr= ib.redhat.com/libc6/SRPMS/libjpeg-6b-7.src.rpm> Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - h.vossieck(a)ndh.net - http://www.n= dh.net/home/vossieck/> 49 2291 3010/6519 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1307977069637708103==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 1 22:31:25 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Mysterious /var/log Message Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 00:31:25 +0200 Message-ID: <3703F3BD.D355D2B9@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <19990401114802.B327@BeagleDog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2904153039958099584==" --===============2904153039958099584== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howard Arons wrote: >=20 > Apr 1 10:58:51 localhost modprobe: can't locate module ppp0 > Apr 1 10:58:51 localhost kernel: registered device ppp0 >=20 > Why on earth is modprobe trying to load this? Because your /etc/conf.modules doesn't contain the line alias ppp0 off Presumably there is a line 'alias ppp0 ppp". Change it accordingly. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - h.vossieck(a)ndh.net - http://www.n= dh.net/home/vossieck/> 49 2291 3010/6519 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2904153039958099584==-- From yatsen-ng@cistron.nl Thu Apr 1 22:41:54 1999 From: yatsen-ng@cistron.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture? Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 00:41:54 +0200 Message-ID: <3703F632.92B980@cistron.nl> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Re: KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2589191348923936527==" --===============2589191348923936527== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I removed the line 'Modem Lock File' in kppp setup but that didn't really give me resulta that were satisfactory. It still died (unexpectedly). How exactly do I remove 'Lock' from /etc/ppp/options ? I'm going through a book called "Mastering Linux" but I didn't reach the part where they explain how to edit files yet. They do explain some basic things but they don't really go in depth. Stefan Troeger wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 17:03 +0200, Yatsen Ng wrote: > > > I configured Kppp (in the KDE wm) and initially I get a connection but > > then it dies (unexpectedly! - is this a joke? Was he shot? I imagine > > that if he'd died after long term illness he died 'expectedly'). Why is > > that? I didn't do anything out of the ordinary nor did I add any > > options. > > Remove the `lock' from /etc/ppp/options. > > Ciao, > Stefan > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2589191348923936527==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Thu Apr 1 23:00:00 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture? Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:00:00 -0600 Message-ID: <3703FA70.79545CD@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <926A591C08E3D211960600E029101CCC3D0FA8@mxclsa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5633205043663241161==" --===============5633205043663241161== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Burt, Philip" wrote: >=20 > Just last night, I got kppp working with my modem. The modem was the > biggest pain (pnp Boca SoundExpression combo sound/modem card -- had to > disable pnp OS setting from BIOS, and configure the modem to be on ttyS3). > Once I had the modem working (verified with minicom), kppp was a cinch! >=20 > The biggest problems I had with kppp were caused by Yast setting the > permissions on pppd incorrectly. As a newbie, I didn't want to deal with > the low-level ppp crud right away. Kppp did a nice job of hiding this from > me. >=20 YaST looks up permissions in /etc/permissions and you can change them to what you want. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5633205043663241161==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Thu Apr 1 23:12:19 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound on 2.2.x kernels Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:12:19 -0600 Message-ID: <3703FD53.D7FF2DC2@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Sound on 2.2.x kernels> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0025457587116569278==" --===============0025457587116569278== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's good to see! "W.D.McKinney" wrote: >=20 > Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > > > > Nick wrote: > > > > > > A freind of mine just upgraded to the 2.2.4 kernel and he was previous > > > running the 2.0.36 kernel (he was using oss for sound no problem) when = he > > > upgrade however, it seems the new kernel 2.2.4 (not sure about the 2.2.x > > > kernels before 2.2.4) does not support OSS, he hasnt gotten it working > > > under this kernel at least. and this is what he claims. Any > > > ideas/comments/suggestions? > > > > > > > Not right now, but I'm sure I will when I run into the same problem this > > May when SuSE 6.1 comes out and I putz around to get sound working > > again... >=20 > Hmmm....... > # uname -a > Linux wdm 2.2.5 #1 SMP Mon Mar 29 23:33:28 AKST 1999 i586 SuSE 6.0 >=20 > cat /dev/sndstat > OSS/Linux 3.9.2g (C) 4Front Technologies 1996-1999 >=20 > License serial number: XXXXXXXXXX > Options: AWE > This copy of OSS is licensed to Dee McKinney >=20 > Build: 2.2.5-SMP >=20 > Card config: > Generic PnP support > SoundBlaster AWE64 Gold at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1,5 > OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 > SB MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 5 > Emu 8000 Synthesizer Engine at 0x620 >=20 > Audio devices: > 0: Creative SB AWE64 Gold (4.16) (DUPLEX) > 1: SB secondary device (DUPLEX) >=20 > Synth devices: > 0: Yamaha OPL-3 > 1: AWE32-0.4.2 (RAM4096k) >=20 > Midi devices: > 0: Sound Blaster 16 >=20 > Timers: > 0: System clock >=20 > Mixers: > 0: Sound Blaster > 1: AWE32 Equalizer > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Head to http://www.4front-tech.com> and upgrade your copy of OSS= /Linux to > one for the newer kernel. >=20 > Best Regards > -Dee >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0025457587116569278==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Thu Apr 1 23:27:25 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture? Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:27:25 -0600 Message-ID: <370400DD.EEE20F2F@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3703F632.92B980@cistron.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3870450084921841358==" --===============3870450084921841358== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yatsen Ng wrote: >=20 > I removed the line 'Modem Lock File' in kppp setup but that didn't really > give me resulta that were satisfactory. It still died (unexpectedly). Take another look at the advice given below, the line about the /etc/ppp/option file. Leave the line in the kppp setup alone. >=20 > How exactly do I remove 'Lock' from /etc/ppp/options ? I'm going through a > book called "Mastering Linux" but I didn't reach the part where they explain > how to edit files yet. They do explain some basic things but they don't > really go in depth. >=20 > Stefan Troeger wrote: >=20 > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 17:03 +0200, Yatsen Ng wrote: > > > > > I configured Kppp (in the KDE wm) and initially I get a connection but > > > then it dies (unexpectedly! - is this a joke? Was he shot? I imagine > > > that if he'd died after long term illness he died 'expectedly'). Why is > > > that? I didn't do anything out of the ordinary nor did I add any > > > options. > > > > Remove the `lock' from /etc/ppp/options. > > > > Ciao, > > Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3870450084921841358==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Thu Apr 1 23:46:24 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 18:46:24 -0500 Message-ID: <37040550.706645A8@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9178327115935465804==" --===============9178327115935465804== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Did this really happen? I have been in the lab all day and haven't heard any news. I did a quick search on the net and didn't see anything else on it. I must admit I laughed my butt off reading the article. I'm a member of a satanic cult? Wow! I never knew. Man, if that is any reflection of the folks who use that other distribution, I'm more happy than ever to be here with SuSE. Someone please post some verifying information on this riot. The main reason I tend to believe this happened is that no one could make up a story as absurd as this. I must admit I am more inclined to put my efforts into making Linux a viable alternative to MS products than I am to go bash Gate's skull in. Hey he made what the world wanted. He won the capitalist game. MS has made incredible contributions to the computer industry. I don't like everything they have done, but sheez, the Unix nerds got over-run by Gates because he asked "what does the users want and need on the desktop?" Yea I talk trash about MS products. You should have heard me today when MS-SQL kept refusing to start. The fact of the matter is, the reason people go to MS products is because they increase productivity. If we OSS'rs want to win the OS game the thing to do is build a better product, not storm MS-HQ. alexm wrote: > http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.html= > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9178327115935465804==-- From jerdfelt@suse.com Fri Apr 2 00:27:53 1999 From: jerdfelt@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:27:53 -0800 Message-ID: <19990401162753.A22249@suse.com> In-Reply-To: <37040550.706645A8@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6396011732692713438==" --===============6396011732692713438== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 01, 1999, Steven T. Hatton wr= ote: >=20 > Did this really happen? I have been in the lab all day and haven't heard > any news. I did a quick search on the net and didn't see anything else on > it. I must admit I laughed my butt off reading the article. I'm a member > of a satanic cult? Wow! I never knew. Man, if that is any reflection of > the folks who use that other distribution, I'm more happy than ever to be > here with SuSE. You may want to look at what date it is :) JE -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6396011732692713438==-- From mcdo148@ibm.net Fri Apr 2 00:27:54 1999 From: mcdo148@ibm.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] I'M STUMPED - MODEM RECOGNIZED BUT STILL NO BANNANA Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 19:27:54 -0500 Message-ID: <37040F0A.16350CFF@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7295748126100597722==" --===============7295748126100597722== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello there all, Well, I'm now completely stumped. I called tech support, and I realised that = my isapnp.conf was based on the isapnp.conf generated by my old computer. So I generated another isapnp.conf stuck modem on com 1 and it was successful. By = the way, I'm running kernel 2.0.36 so lspci won't work anyway, its for 2.2x apparently. Anyways, it says Board c USr modem recognized : irq 3 So I again told yast my modem lived on com1 I tried kppp it still just sits there on "modem ready" what on earth am I mea= nt to do now? ?I tried minicom but when it comes up, I went into alt z and chose send break, it says sending it but says offline at the bottom.=20 And yes, I do want to use kppp, my mother in law is going to be using this machine and we need something graphical. I just don't know what to do next... any advice would be welcome. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? Cheers! Dom -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7295748126100597722==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Fri Apr 2 04:40:30 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Attack of the Tuxissa Virus Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 23:40:30 -0500 Message-ID: <37044A3E.2FDCB3BA@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5564852929273989536==" --===============5564852929273989536== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Attack of the Tuxissa Virus This advisory is intended primarily for network administrators responsible for luser configuration and maintenance. Attack of the Tuxissa Virus March 29, 1999 What started out as a prank posting to comp.os.linux.advocacy yesterday has turned into one of the most significant viruses in computing history. The creator of the virus, who goes by the moniker "Anonymous Longhair", modified the well-known Melissa[1] virus to download and install Linux on infected machines. "It's a work of art," one Linux advocate told Humorix after he looked through the Tuxissa virus source code. "This virus goes well beyond the feeble troublemaking of Melissa." The advocate enumerated some of the tasks the virus performs in the background while the user is blissfully playing Solitaire: Once the virus is activated, it first works on propogating itself. It has a built-in email harvesting module that downloads all the pages referenced in the user's Internet Explorer bookmarks and scans them for email addresses. Using Outlook, the virus sends a copy of itself to every email address it comes across. After it has successfully reproduced, the virus begins the tricky process of upgrading the system to Linux. First, the virus modifies AUTOEXEC.BAT so that the virus will be re-activated if the system crashes or is shut down while the upgrade is in process. Second, the virus downloads a stripped-down Slackware distribution, using a lengthy list of mirror sites to prevent the virus from overloading any one server. Then the virus configures a UMSDOS filesystem to install Linux on. Since this filesystem resides on a FAT partition, there is no need to re-partition the hard drive, one of the few actions that the Word macro language doesn't allow. Next, the virus uncompresses the downloaded files into the new Linux filesystem. The virus then permanently deletes all copies of the Windows Registry, virtually preventing the user from booting into Windows without a re-install. After modifying the boot sector, the virus terminates its own life by rebooting the system. The computer boots into the Slackware setup program, which automatically finishes the installation of Linux. Finally, the dazed user is presented with the Linux login prompt and the text, "Welcome to Linux. You'll never want to use Windows again. Type 'root' to begin..." The whole process take about two hours, assuming the user has a decent Internet connection. Since the virus runs invisibly in the background, the user has no chance to stop it until it's too late. The email message that the virus is attached to has the subject "Important Message About Windows Security". The text of the body says, "I want to let you know about some security problems I've uncovered in Windows 95/98/NT, Office 95/97, and Outlook. It's critically important that you protect your system against these attacks. Visit these sites for more information..." The rest of the message contains 42 links to sites about Linux and free software. Slashdot is one of those links. "That could spell trouble," one Slashdot expert told Humorix. "Slashdot could fall victim to the new 'Macro Virus Effect' if this virus continues to propogate at its present exponential growth rate. Red Hat's portal site, another site present on the virus' links list, seems to be quite sluggish right now..." Details on how the virus started are a bit sketchy. The "Anonymous Longhair" who created it only posted it to Usenet as an early April Fool's gag, a demonstration of how easy it would be to mount a "Linux revolution". Some other Usenet reader is responsible for actually spreading the virus into the wild. One observer speculated, "I imagine the virus was first sent to the addresses of several well-known spammers. The virus probably latched on to the spammer's email lists and began propagating at a fantastic rate. With no boundary to its growth, this thing could wind up infecting every single Net-connected Wintel box in the world. Wouldn't that be a shame!" Linus Torvalds, who just left for a two week vacation, was unavailable for comment at press time. We have a strong feeling that his vacation will be cut short very soon... --=20 Windows 98 supports real multitasking - it can boot and crash simultaneously - Fred A. Miller, Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fmiller(a)lightlink.com; fm(a)cupserv.org -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5564852929273989536==-- From graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 2 05:41:22 1999 From: graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fortify for Netscape questions. Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 05:41:22 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3703E459.B3B823D0@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0552818497222572874==" --===============0552818497222572874== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable zentara writes: > I found it odd that my compiled binaries > were roughly 5 times as large as the precompiled > ones. Did you strip them after building them? If not, try stripping them and see how much the size decreases. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0552818497222572874==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Fri Apr 2 09:51:39 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Beyond the server Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:51:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3704932B.EEF57843@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7291900518017697729==" --===============7291900518017697729== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A good read. Fred _________________ http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-03/lw-03-deve= lop.html?04-01> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7291900518017697729==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Apr 2 12:50:19 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture? Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 07:50:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3704BD0B.10E20C20@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <3703F632.92B980@cistron.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2853941258423954732==" --===============2853941258423954732== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yatsen Ng wrote: >=20 > How exactly do I remove 'Lock' from /etc/ppp/options ? I'm going through a > book called "Mastering Linux" but I didn't reach the part where they explain > how to edit files yet. They do explain some basic things but they don't > really go in depth. Install the program Midnight Commander, and learn how to use it by reading the docs. It is so easy. Some will tell you to learn vi to edit, but the internal editor of mc is too easy. Remember to change the mc configuration to "use internal edit" and "use internal view". Otherwise you will get thrown into vi to edit files. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2853941258423954732==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Apr 2 12:59:33 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Attack of the Tuxissa Virus Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 07:59:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3704BF35.3849EB3E@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <37044A3E.2FDCB3BA@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4869459987601055988==" --===============4869459987601055988== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Fred A. Miller" wrote: >=20 > Attack of the Tuxissa Virus > creator of the virus, who goes by the moniker "Anonymous > Longhair", modified the well-known Melissa[1] virus to > download and install Linux on infected machines. > "It's a work of art," one Linux advocate told Humorix after Those poor windows users. I've heard that they can't even tell it's happening to them. They hear all that "clicking hard-drive" activity, but can't tell for sure if it's a normal window's operation or not. I guess MS tech support is telling them it is normal swapping out cause they are playing solitaire, and they should just get more ram. ;-) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4869459987601055988==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 2 13:14:59 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture? Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 15:14:59 +0200 Message-ID: <3704C2D3.230C982C@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <3704BD0B.10E20C20@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7787713175072596997==" --===============7787713175072596997== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable zentara wrote: >=20 > Yatsen Ng wrote: > > > > How exactly do I remove 'Lock' from /etc/ppp/options ? I'm going through a > > book called "Mastering Linux" but I didn't reach the part where they expl= ain > > how to edit files yet. They do explain some basic things but they don't > > really go in depth. >=20 > Install the program Midnight Commander, and learn how to > use it by reading the docs. It is so easy. > Some will tell you to learn vi to edit, > but the internal editor of mc is too easy. It can also be directly invokes from the commandline with 'mcedit '. Another nice editer, very customizable, is joe. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - h.vossieck(a)ndh.net - http://www.hhv.de> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7787713175072596997==-- From raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu Fri Apr 2 13:26:24 1999 From: raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] I'M STUMPED - MODEM RECOGNIZED BUT STILL NO BANNANA Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 08:26:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3704C580.D8C8E728@neuronet.pitt.edu> In-Reply-To: <37040F0A.16350CFF@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8562880171151732409==" --===============8562880171151732409== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable IRQ 3 is usually for COM2. If you have jumper settings on your modem, try to set it to COM2 (IRQ 3, I/O 0x2F8). That way you won't need isapnp, in fact remove or rename that file if the above works. Set up your modem again with YaST. If all the above works, you should be able to talk to it with minicom. If you can't set it with jumpers. See what IRQ and I/O port "isapnp -c" reports. COM1: IRQ 4, I/O 0x3F8; COM2:IRQ 3, I/O 0x2F8. Based on that use YaST to set it up again and try minicom to talk to it (eg. ATZ, etc.) To use kppp, first go to /etc/ppp and rename the file 'options' and replace with an empty file (eg. mv options options_old; touch options). Then go to ~/.kde/share/config and rename 'kppprc' in case you have improper settings. Start kppp and try dialing manually. Good luck. --=20 Rafael Herrera Laboratory for Computational Neuroscience University of Pittsburgh http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~raffo> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8562880171151732409==-- From ideasco@csi.com Fri Apr 2 13:28:38 1999 From: ideasco@csi.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Sound Card Settings Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 08:28:38 -0500 Message-ID: <002401be7d0c$d29719b0$285ac0d8@ob800ct> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4734096213476079270==" --===============4734096213476079270== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I tried to compile a new kernel, including sound card support. I used the X graphical interface. The log (and the manual in Section 13.4.14) advises that the settings are made in a separate step. I'm having trouble figuring out where this is done. Thanks for answering this trivial question. Stanley C. Rogacki, P.E. IDEAS Company (973) 403-9797 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4734096213476079270==-- From mperry@basin.com Fri Apr 2 14:52:07 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this picture? Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 06:52:07 -0800 Message-ID: <199904021452.GAA03341@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: <3704C2D3.230C982C@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4896835025358855704==" --===============4896835025358855704== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2 Apr, hhv wrote: >=20 > zentara wrote: >>=20 >> Yatsen Ng wrote: >> > >> > How exactly do I remove 'Lock' from /etc/ppp/options ? I'm going through= a >> > book called "Mastering Linux" but I didn't reach the part where they exp= lain >> > how to edit files yet. They do explain some basic things but they don't >> > really go in depth. >>=20 >> Install the program Midnight Commander, and learn how to >> use it by reading the docs. It is so easy. >> Some will tell you to learn vi to edit, >> but the internal editor of mc is too easy. >=20 > It can also be directly invokes from the commandline with 'mcedit '. > Another nice editer, very customizable, is joe. >=20 > Henning >=20 I would also recommend joe. It comes in three flavors and I really like jstar which does a lot of wordstar stuff. You can customize it by finding the joerc file in /usr/lib and copying it to your home directory as .joerc. Same with jstar. There is a file there called jstarrc and this can just get copied to your home directory. The config files are quite commented so making changes is easily done. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4896835025358855704==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Fri Apr 2 16:54:38 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Mars_nwe.rpm Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:54:38 +0100 Message-ID: <199904021654.RAA15390@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9205068462339893468==" --===============9205068462339893468== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I've asked the Pegasus Mail fro Windows folk about using Pegasus in=20 netware mode with mars_nwe.rpm. Haven't had a positive answer yet :- ( I've looked at the mars_nwe docs and it looks as though it's fairly=20 straight forward. Just connect up the Pmail directory on the=20 appropriate drive. If I can get it to work it might be a good idea for me to write a=20 mini-howto about this aspect of network configuration. Thanks Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9205068462339893468==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Fri Apr 2 16:54:38 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:54:38 +0100 Message-ID: <199904021654.RAA15402@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5330316478586946564==" --===============5330316478586946564== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I've had a good long look at the Leafnode docs and I can't get=20 Leafnode to run. I've definitely got the right nntp server address. What do I need to do to make/ compile it ? The docs don't quite give = the full explanation. Thanks Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5330316478586946564==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 2 17:17:45 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 19:17:45 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904021654.RAA15402@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3305088956238589431==" --===============3305088956238589431== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Richard Ibbotson wrote: > I've had a good long look at the Leafnode docs and I can't get=20 > Leafnode to run. I've definitely got the right nntp server address. >=20 > What do I need to do to make/ compile it ? The docs don't quite give=20 > the full explanation. Are you using the original source package? I found the INSTALL document quite easy to follow... You might want to have a look at the RPM on our ftp-Server, it contains a README.SuSE under /usr/doc/packages/leafnode, which describes the necessary steps. For convenience, I've attached it to this mail. I hope, noone complains about this... Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny
		    Installation notes for Package leafnode
		    ---------------------------------------

In order to use leafnode on your system, you have to configure some things
correctly:

 o Set the variable NNTPSERVER in /etc/rc.config to point to your local host:

	NNTPSERVER=3D"localhost"

   Be sure to run SuSEconfig afterwards, this will create the necessary
   entry in the file /etc/nntpserver.

 o edit /etc/leafnode/config to fit your needs. As a minimum,
   you have to insert your preferred News Server in Line 3:

	server =3D 

   This is the name or IP address of your provider's newsfeed. See the
   manual page for leafnode(8) for more info about specific configuration
   issues.

 o to start leafnode when connecting with your newsreader, uncomment the
   following line in /etc/inetd.conf:

   nntp    stream  tcp     nowait  news    /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/leafnode

   This starts leafnode for all connections on the nntp port, subject to
   /etc/hosts/allow and /etc/hosts.deny screening. Make sure, that this is
   the only line beginning with "nntp"!

 o After these changes, force inetd to reread the changed configuration file
   To achieve this in SuSE Linux, issue the following command (as root):

	rcinetd restart

   Alternatively, you may use the following command:

	killall -HUP inetd

 o Now run fetch. The first run will take some time since fetch reads a
   list of all newsgroups from your upstream server.  With an 28.8 modem,
   it can take as long as 60 minutes (depending on how many newsgroups your
   provider offers and how fast your connection is). To see fetch working,
   run it with the Option "-vvv".

 o Read news using an NNTP client (with $NNTPSERVER or /etc/nntpserver
   pointing to your own host). Select the groups you want to read in
   the future. You will find them empty except for a default article.
   Reading this article is necessary with some newsreaders to select
   the groups for further fetching. After this, you should have empty
   files in /var/spool/news/interesting.groups/ for every group you want
   to read.

 o Run fetch again. This run should pick up all the groups you want to read.
   You can now read these messages or post new ones with your newsreader,
   fetch will deliver your posted messages during the next run.

 o If you want to fetch new news every time you go online, you could
   run fetch from /etc/ppp/ip-up, for example.

 o To clean up old articles, you should run texpire in regular intervals.
   An example for /etc/crontab:

	0 22 * * * root  test -x /usr/sbin/texpire && /usr/sbin/texpire

   This would start texpire every night at 10pm. If your machine does not
   run 24 hours a day, make sure that you choose a time, when it will be
   turned on.

Have a lot of fun,

	Your SuSE-Team.


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From geoff@gnewson.freeserve.co.uk Fri Apr  2 17:36:22 1999
From: geoff@gnewson.freeserve.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] teTex
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 18:36:22 +0100
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My problem is that I cannot generate the format files for latex.
I have tried=20
    texconfig init
but that only wrote output to logfiles.
Help please.
Geoff Newson


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From stevem12@mindspring.com Fri Apr  2 17:43:15 1999
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Is SuSE going to put out it's own version of the 2.2 kernel like it has with
the 2.0??  If so, when??

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From adcarlso@visinet.ca Fri Apr  2 17:44:08 1999
From: adcarlso@visinet.ca
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:44:08 -0500
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Probably another one of those April Fools stories...

On 01-Apr-99 Steven T. Hatton wrote:
>=20
> Did this really happen?  I have been in the lab all day and haven't heard
> any news.  I did a quick search on the net and didn't see anything else on
> it.  I must admit I laughed my butt off reading the article.  I'm a member
> of a satanic cult?  Wow! I never knew.  Man, if that is any reflection of
> the folks who use that other distribution, I'm more happy than ever to be
> here with SuSE.
>=20
> Someone please post some verifying information on this riot.  The main
> reason I tend to believe this happened is that no one could make up a story
> as absurd as this.
>=20
> I must admit I am more inclined to put my efforts into making Linux a
> viable alternative to MS products than I am to go bash Gate's skull in.
> Hey he made what the world wanted.  He won the capitalist game.  MS has
> made incredible contributions to the computer industry.  I don't like
> everything they have done, but sheez, the Unix nerds got over-run by Gates
> because he asked "what does the users want and need on the desktop?"  Yea I
> talk trash about MS products.  You should have heard me today when MS-SQL
> kept refusing to start.  The fact of the matter is, the reason people go to
> MS products is because they increase productivity.  If we OSS'rs want to
> win the OS game the thing to do is build a better product, not storm MS-HQ.
>=20
> alexm wrote:
>=20
>> http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.htm=
l>
>>
>> --
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From deem@wdm.com Fri Apr  2 18:51:04 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's  2.2.X kernel?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 09:51:04 -0900
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stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote:
>=20
> Is SuSE going to put out it's own version of the 2.2 kernel like it has with
> the 2.0??  If so, when??

It's always nice to get the updated stuff thrown in the SuSE packaged kernels.
My guess is that when 6.1 comes out, we'll see it.

-Dee

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From andyford@nothnbut.net Fri Apr  2 19:17:35 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:17:35 -0600
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On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 05:54:38PM +0100, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
>=20
> Hi
>=20
> 	I've had a good long look at the Leafnode docs and I can't get=20
> Leafnode to run. I've definitely got the right nntp server address.
>=20
> 	What do I need to do to make/ compile it ? The docs don't quite give=20
> the full explanation.
>=20
> Thanks
I've been working on the the last few days days with some limited success.
Where are you getting stuck? I'm using the stock SuSE rpm; I dunno what versi=
on
I'm running *blush*. Wait... Oh ok=20
dave:/etc/cron.daily # rpm -q leafnode
leafnode-1.7.1-6
The only way I can get leafnode to download articles is to put=20
group names in  /var/spool/news/interesting.groups ...
I can't get my news reader, slrn, to tell leafnode I want certain=20
groups...
Yours,
Andy


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From eck@raytheon.com Fri Apr  2 19:22:52 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's  2.2.X kernel?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:22:52 -0600
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W.D.McKinney wrote:
>=20
> It's always nice to get the updated stuff thrown in the SuSE packaged kerne=
ls.
> My guess is that when 6.1 comes out, we'll see it.
>=20
> -Dee
I just purchased SuSE 6.0 and plan on installing it over the week-end.
Currently using RedHat 5.2 with kernel 2.2.3. The reason for this
version
of the kernel is I am using xawtv and it has good video4linux built in
to the kernel. What exactly are SuSE kernel updates and will I be able
to take a newly installed SuSE 6.0 and update to kernel 2.2.3 (not
patched
in any manner) without breaking something? Under RedHat 5.2 I had to
ignore /etc/conf.modules and add a file called rc.modules under
/etc/rc.d. I guess I'll find out the diff between RH5.2 and SuSE6.0 :)

Regards,
Terry Eck

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From RBoussen@Worldonline.nl Fri Apr  2 19:43:47 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's  2.2.X kernel?
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On 02-Apr-99 Terry Eck wrote:
>=20
> W.D.McKinney wrote:
> What exactly are SuSE kernel updates and will I be able
> to take a newly installed SuSE 6.0 and update to kernel 2.2.3 (not
> patched
> in any manner) without breaking something? Under RedHat 5.2 I had to
> ignore /etc/conf.modules and add a file called rc.modules under
> /etc/rc.d. I guess I'll find out the diff between RH5.2 and SuSE6.0 :)
>=20
I had installed SuSE 6.0 first and worked for a week with it.
After that I downloaded the 2.2.4 kernel (from www.nllgg.nl, the Dutch linux =

group) and compiled it.
Everything works fine only ALSA must be recompiled.

Greetings,
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From deem@wdm.com Fri Apr  2 19:45:40 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
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Looks like I'm heading into buying a new printer for my
home SuSE 6.0 box. I'd like a low end HP non-color
printer....any suggestions ?

Thanks
-Dee


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From bernhard.valenti@jk.uni-linz.ac.at Fri Apr  2 19:58:13 1999
From: bernhard.valenti@jk.uni-linz.ac.at
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's  2.2.X kernel?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 21:58:13 +0200
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hi,
after installing suse 6.0, just download the kernel 2.2.3(guess u already
have), and install it, you dont have to do anything else.
i'm running suse 6.0 with kernel 2.2.4.

bernhard valenti

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Sent: Freitag, 02. April 1999 21:22
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's 2.2.X kernel?

>
>W.D.McKinney wrote:
>>
>> It's always nice to get the updated stuff thrown in the SuSE packaged
kernels.
>> My guess is that when 6.1 comes out, we'll see it.
>>
>> -Dee
>I just purchased SuSE 6.0 and plan on installing it over the week-end.
>Currently using RedHat 5.2 with kernel 2.2.3. The reason for this
>version
>of the kernel is I am using xawtv and it has good video4linux built in
>to the kernel. What exactly are SuSE kernel updates and will I be able
>to take a newly installed SuSE 6.0 and update to kernel 2.2.3 (not
>patched
>in any manner) without breaking something? Under RedHat 5.2 I had to
>ignore /etc/conf.modules and add a file called rc.modules under
>/etc/rc.d. I guess I'll find out the diff between RH5.2 and SuSE6.0 :)
>
>Regards,
>Terry Eck
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From skoper@mediaone.net Fri Apr  2 20:01:49 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade
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I posted a long message yesterday in theSuSE security mailing list,
which was pretty much off-topic (only tangentially related to security
issues with kernel 2.2.3).  But I had been through several attempts to
compile and install the 2.2.3 kernel, without much success.

I have a cable modem and a home LAN, using an AMD 5x86 as my
router/gateway.  It has two NICs.  The one to the LAN is a Linksys
NE2000 clone.  The one to the cable modem is a 3Com 3c509 that was
provided by the cable company, Mediaone.  The problem I had with 2.2.3
was that it wouldn't recognize either of the NICs.

Hearing that there was a 2.2.5 kernel out, I downloaded it, and prepared
to install it.  I provided a blow-by-blow description of my attempt to
compile and install a new kernel.   Below is the description I posted:

Here's what I've done so far.  I went into /usr/src
and did "rm -rf /usr/src/linux".  Then I redid "ln -s
/usr/src/linux-2.2.5
/usr/src/linux".  I typed "cd linux" and I was in /usr/src/linux.  I
typed
"make menuconfig".  I got a whole bunch of text, and then the menuconfig

creen appeared.  Well, all of the settings were just like they were the

last time I did a make menuconfig.

After I verified that that was the case, I saved the config settings.
This dropped me down to a message that told me to check the top level
Makefile and then type "make dep".  I took a look at the "top level
Makefile",
which I assume is the one in /usr/src/linux, but as always, it's just a
script,
and I don't know what I'm looking at.  When this message appears, I sort

of expect to see a list of additional things to do, but there isn't.
Just
the script.

OK, I did "make dep" and now it's done.  The last two lines are "make
[2]:
Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.5/arch/i386/lib'" and then "make
[1]:Leaving directory '/usr/scr/linux-2.2.5'"

Now I'm at the prompt, no further instructions.  Following the list in a

message from W.D. McKinney, I'm going to type either make clean, or make

bzImage (or maybe just "make zImage", if I don't think the kernel will
be
too big).  But why the "make clean"?  To remove all of the previous
connections, in case some of them are "bad"? (like the time I
accidentally
compiled for a Pentium, when I only have an AMD 5x86).

I'll do it. [type 'make clean'].   Here goes.  Ah, it's rm'ing a bunch
of stuff.  Last few
lines:

    if  [ -d modules ]; then \
            rm -f core 'find modules/  -type f  -print'; \
    fi
    rm -f submenu*
and now I'm at the prompt.  Here goes make zImage.  It'll take a while.

[It's a] Half hour later.  Kernel too big [is the message I see].  The
last few lines are:

    Boot sector is 512 bytes
    Setup is 1272 bytes
    System is 564 kB
    System is too big.  Try using bzImage or modules
    make[1]: * * * [zImage] Error 1
    make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.5/arch/i386/boot'
    make: * * *[zImage] Error 2

And back to the prompt.  OK, so let's do bzImage.

That was quick [it took about 3-5 minutes!].  No errors.  Now, how about
make modules?  OK, start that.  I got a couple of warnings.  "unused
variable ei_local"
for one. A bunch of messages "nothing to be done for modules", but I
think that's
just referring to specific functions that haven't been modularized.

Now, make modules_install.  I got two.  net and ipv4.

Now to copy the bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz, /sbin/lilo, and reboot.  OK,
here goes nothing.

We're on.   OK, it's got the devices [it recognized both NICs].  But
nothing's going out [ip forwarding isn't working].  There was that mod
probe error (char-something-4?), and ipfwadm isn't working (why should
it--this is a 2.2.x kernel--I need ipchains, right?).

Well, I feel better.  I think I can fix this, and in the meantime, I can
reboot from the boot disk.

And I *will* look over the changes file, and see what needs to be
upgraded.

It *can* be done.  But I may get 6.1 anyway....

That was what I posted last night.  The only thing I forgot to add was
that when I type route or route -n each entry appears twice.  Odd.  But
mainly, IP forwarding isn't working.  I have IP_FORWARDING =3D yes in
rc.config, so don't ask about that.  When I first installed SuSE 6.0 I
couldn't get onto the internet from my LAN, but it was because I hadn't
prepared a FW-INOUT file and I had turned that variable on in rc.config.

So if anyone has any helpful suggestions as to why ip-forwarding isn't
working, let me know.  Thanks.

Stan Koper


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From roed@hem.utfors.se Fri Apr  2 20:04:18 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Star NL-10 printer
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 22:04:18 +0200
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I have an old Star NL-10 printer. Can I connect it to Linux ?

How ?

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From venrooij@casema.net Fri Apr  2 20:33:49 1999
From: venrooij@casema.net
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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 22:33:49 +0200
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stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote:
>=20
> Is SuSE going to put out it's own version of the 2.2 kernel like it has with
> the 2.0??  If so, when??
>=20
> Steve
>=20
> ----------------------------------
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...it is already out there (kernel 2.2.3 for SuSE).
Check out the updates at the SuSE internet site.

Don't panic
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From eck@raytheon.com Fri Apr  2 20:51:43 1999
From: eck@raytheon.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's  2.2.X kernel?
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Tim van Venrooij wrote:
>=20
> ...it is already out there (kernel 2.2.3 for SuSE).
> Check out the updates at the SuSE internet site.
>=20
> Don't panic
> Tim.
Is this site called ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/kernel?
If so then I think the only kernel with SuSE updates in
it is called linux-2.0.36.SuSE.tgz. Please correct me if=20
I'm wrong. I'm also interested in updating to kernel 2.2.3
but I have yet to see any kernel 2.2.X with SuSE finger prints.

Regards,
Terry

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From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Apr  2 21:39:33 1999
From: zentara@mindspring.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound Card Settings
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 16:39:33 -0500
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"Stanley C. Rogacki" wrote:
>=20
> I tried to compile a new kernel, including sound card support.  I used the X
> graphical interface.  The log (and the manual in Section 13.4.14) advises
> that the settings are made in a separate step.  I'm having trouble figuring
> out where this is done.  Thanks for answering this trivial question.
>=20

Well, first you must setup your isapnp.conf file for
your soundcard. It is /etc/isapnp.conf. First do a=20
"pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf.

If you have a standard soundcard, post what model it
is and someone will send you a good isapnp.conf for it,
and the proper /etc/conf.modules settings.

The new kernels switch the irq's around for /dev/lp0
and /dev/lp1. So, it is wise to set your soundcard
up on irq5, and printer on irq7, which is /dev/lp0.

I have an awe32, if that is what you have email me, and
I'll send you the files.


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"W.D.McKinney" wrote:
>=20
> Looks like I'm heading into buying a new printer for my
> home SuSE 6.0 box. I'd like a low end HP non-color
> printer....any suggestions ?
>=20

If you can find a used Hp500 Deskjet , they setup
and work great. I got a refurbished one from
www.compgeeks.com for $50, it is like new. :-)
Refills are cheap too.


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Stan Koper wrote:

> So if anyone has any helpful suggestions as to why ip-forwarding isn't
> working, let me know.  Thanks.
>=20

The newer kernels use the ipchain command to do masquerading,
and I would guess forwarding.
There is a new how-to out for ip-masquerading with the
new kernels.
Hope that helps.


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From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Fri Apr  2 21:50:52 1999
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Does anyone know of anything which would let me have a little
chat with my parallel port (/dev/lp1)?

With thamks,
Ted.

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From HKNIEF@taos.com Fri Apr  2 21:59:11 1999
From: HKNIEF@taos.com
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's  2.2.X kernel?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:59:11 -0800
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Actually, if you go to the update directory on the SuSE ftp site, there
is an lx_suse.rpm package that is SuSE's 2.2.3 Kernel package, which can
be setup under rpm as an upgrade.

 - Herman

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Terry Eck [SMTP:eck(a)raytheon.com]
> Sent:	Friday, April 02, 1999 12:52 PM
> To:	Tim van Venrooij
> Cc:	SuSE
> Subject:	Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's  2.2.X kernel?
>=20
>=20
> Tim van Venrooij wrote:
> >=20
> > ...it is already out there (kernel 2.2.3 for SuSE).
> > Check out the updates at the SuSE internet site.
> >=20
> > Don't panic
> > Tim.
> Is this site called ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/kernel?
> If so then I think the only kernel with SuSE updates in
> it is called linux-2.0.36.SuSE.tgz. Please correct me if=20
> I'm wrong. I'm also interested in updating to kernel 2.2.3
> but I have yet to see any kernel 2.2.X with SuSE finger prints.
>=20
> Regards,
> Terry
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr  2 23:33:18 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 01:33:18 +0200
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Stan Koper wrote:
> So if anyone has any helpful suggestions as to why ip-forwarding isn't
> working, let me know.  Thanks.

you need to 'echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' on startup.
Put in /sbin/init.d/boot.local. And yes, you need ipchains. It's
on the suse cdroms. So you can install it via Yast. Have you
checked if your system otherwise fulfills the requirements for
the 2.2.5 Kernel? The Script /usr/scr/linux/scripts/ver_linux
will tell you. An enhanced version is here:
http://hhv.de/projects/ve=
r-linux/usr/bin/ver-linux>

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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr  2 23:53:04 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: EXTRAVERSION patch?
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"Matthew D. Pitts" wrote:
>=20
> Guys,
>=20
> Does someone have a patch for the patch-kernel script that will enable it
> to apply the EXTRAVERSION type patches for 2.1.13x/2.2.0-prex? I would like
> to bee able to run patch-kernel to apply them. I couldn't figure out how to
> do it myself.

This is very easily done with the command 'patch -p1 patchfilename'.
If the patch is compressed then use
      zcat   | patch -p1
or   bzcat  | patch -p1

This assumes you are in /usr/src/linux and the patch is there, too.
After this you should look for .rej files. If there are none
you can start compiling your kernel.

If you like, you can edit the top level Makefile, line 4, if it's a
non-official patch (not a Linus-Patch). If e.g. it's one of the
ac patches make line 4 look like

EXTRAVERSION =3D -ac2

I've written a tiny shell function, which automates the whole process.
If someone is interested, tll me. I'll send it

Henning


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From hmf@softhome.net Sat Apr  3 00:24:57 1999
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hey all

When I do "startx gnome", gnome and windowmaker come up, but apps just keep o=
n loading until x crashes.  have any=20
idea why this might be, or what I can do to fix it?

Also, can anyone talk me through a file runner installation?  I have the rpm =
, TCL8.0, and TK8.0, (but don't think I=20
put them in the right place...) Anyone?

Thanks

-tf


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From zentara@mindspring.com Sat Apr  3 00:47:46 1999
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"(Ted Harding)" wrote:
>=20
> Does anyone know of anything which would let me have a little
> chat with my parallel port (/dev/lp1)?
>=20

cat textfile > /dev/lp1=20

if that don't work try

cat textfile > /dev/lp0

The 2.2.* kernels switch irqs around for the
printers, so if you recently upgraded, check
out irq's, bios lpt settings, and soundcard conflicts.


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From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Sat Apr  3 01:23:31 1999
From: k01164@ko.sdu.dk
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's  2.2.X kernel?
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 03:23:31 +0200
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Actually it is the 2.2.5 kernel sources in the rpm you
mentioned.

If you don't feel comfortable with a German menuconfig
just enter the first sub-menu and select English.
Exit menuconfig, but say yes to saving the configuration.
Next time you start make menuconfig it will be in English.


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On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Herman Knief wrote:

>=20
> Actually, if you go to the update directory on the SuSE ftp site, there
> is an lx_suse.rpm package that is SuSE's 2.2.3 Kernel package, which can
> be setup under rpm as an upgrade.
>=20
>  - Herman
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Terry Eck [SMTP:eck(a)raytheon.com]
> > Sent:	Friday, April 02, 1999 12:52 PM
> > To:	Tim van Venrooij
> > Cc:	SuSE
> > Subject:	Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's  2.2.X kernel?
> >=20
> >=20
> > Tim van Venrooij wrote:
> > >=20
> > > ...it is already out there (kernel 2.2.3 for SuSE).
> > > Check out the updates at the SuSE internet site.
> > >=20
> > > Don't panic
> > > Tim.
> > Is this site called ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/kernel?
> > If so then I think the only kernel with SuSE updates in
> > it is called linux-2.0.36.SuSE.tgz. Please correct me if=20
> > I'm wrong. I'm also interested in updating to kernel 2.2.3
> > but I have yet to see any kernel 2.2.X with SuSE finger prints.
> >=20
> > Regards,
> > Terry
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From dizzy73@connix.com Sat Apr  3 01:33:38 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 20:33:38 -0500
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Andy Ford wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 05:54:38PM +0100, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> >       I've had a good long look at the Leafnode docs and I can't get
> > Leafnode to run. I've definitely got the right nntp server address.
> >
> >       What do I need to do to make/ compile it ? The docs don't quite give
> > the full explanation.
> >
> > Thanks
> I've been working on the the last few days days with some limited success.
> Where are you getting stuck? I'm using the stock SuSE rpm; I dunno what ver=
sion
> I'm running *blush*. Wait... Oh ok
> dave:/etc/cron.daily # rpm -q leafnode
> leafnode-1.7.1-6
> The only way I can get leafnode to download articles is to put
> group names in  /var/spool/news/interesting.groups ...
> I can't get my news reader, slrn, to tell leafnode I want certain
> groups...
> Yours,
> Andy

If I can be of some help...
read this file and follow it exactly and your news will be pouring in!
http://h2o.hansol.co.kr/l=
g/issue09/newsserver.html>
also have a close look at the files Lenz posted today.
I followed these guides and it works perfectly
Im using the source version leafnode-1.9.2 dld from leafnodes site and compil=
ed
following the INSTALL file. The above page got me past similiar errors
hth
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From mperry@basin.com Sat Apr  3 01:35:55 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] gnome crashes
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:35:55 -0800
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On  2 Apr, tf wrote:
>=20
> hey all
>=20
> When I do "startx gnome", gnome and windowmaker come up, but apps just keep=
 on loading until x crashes.  have any=20
> idea why this might be, or what I can do to fix it?
>=20
> Also, can anyone talk me through a file runner installation?  I have the rp=
m , TCL8.0, and TK8.0, (but don't think I=20
> put them in the right place...) Anyone?
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> -tf
>=20
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Try starting gnome the first time without using the startx gnome thing.
Try using this in your .xinitrc file as the last line, "exec wmaker".=20
Have you run wmaker.inst to get the environment setup correctly?  Go
the user's home and enter the command "wmaker.inst" in an xterm or
console.  This will copy a bunch of files and it will also add the exec
wmaker command to your .xinitrc file as the last command.  Now after
starting windowmaker, type panel & in an xterm and see if gnome starts.

You can have gnome manage the window manager but first get the load
sequence right.  Once you get things working, you can enable the
gnome-session as the loader in your .xinitrc and this will work to load
windowmaker.  When you are ready with windowmaker, just type startx and
you should be good.  I have had some minor problems getting gnome to
start in its window manager role the first few times I try.  What
version of gnome are you using?  Are you using the one on the SuSE cd?

There are much later versions of gnome available made specifically for
suse.  Check out www.gnome.org and look for the SuSE 6 link. =20

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From mperry@basin.com Sat Apr  3 01:51:45 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:51:45 -0800
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On  2 Apr, Andy Ford wrote:
>=20
> On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 05:54:38PM +0100, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi
>>=20
>> 	I've had a good long look at the Leafnode docs and I can't get=20
>> Leafnode to run. I've definitely got the right nntp server address.
>>=20
>> 	What do I need to do to make/ compile it ? The docs don't quite give=20
>> the full explanation.
>>=20
>> Thanks
> I've been working on the the last few days days with some limited success.
> Where are you getting stuck? I'm using the stock SuSE rpm; I dunno what ver=
sion
> I'm running *blush*. Wait... Oh ok=20
> dave:/etc/cron.daily # rpm -q leafnode
> leafnode-1.7.1-6
> The only way I can get leafnode to download articles is to put=20
> group names in  /var/spool/news/interesting.groups ...
> I can't get my news reader, slrn, to tell leafnode I want certain=20
> groups...
> Yours,
> Andy
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I am running leafnode here from sources with no real issues.  Be sure
that you have at least read the one article in each group that leafnode
places there.  Everything works okay when you run fetch -vvv which
means verbose, verbose, verbose?  How do you enable fetch?  Perhaps in
ip-up?  I would subscribe to the groups and enter each group in slrn
and read the one article in there after you subscribe.  slrn had a
rather rough time for me also until I manually read each article that
leafnode places there as a placeholder of sorts.


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From jamesw@wantjava.com Sat Apr  3 02:02:45 1999
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When is SuSE 6.1 going to be up on ftp.suse.com ?

Thanks.
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From skoper@mediaone.net Sat Apr  3 04:09:54 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 23:09:54 -0500
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The boot file in /sbin/init.d already has this command in it.  I see from
the ipfwadm script that it's supposed to test for the presence of ipfwadm,
and if it isn't there, then it tries to run ipchains.  I'm only a little
mystified as to why, when I boot kernel 2.2.5, networking doesn't work.  But
apparently linux is trying to run ipfwadm and it isn't working.

Stan Koper

-----Original Message-----
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To: SLE 
Date: Friday, April 02, 1999 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade

>
>Stan Koper wrote:
>> So if anyone has any helpful suggestions as to why ip-forwarding isn't
>> working, let me know.  Thanks.
>
>you need to 'echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' on startup.
>Put in /sbin/init.d/boot.local. And yes, you need ipchains. It's
>on the suse cdroms. So you can install it via Yast. Have you
>checked if your system otherwise fulfills the requirements for
>the 2.2.5 Kernel? The Script /usr/scr/linux/scripts/ver_linux
>will tell you. An enhanced version is here:
>http://hhv.de/projects/v=
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>
>Henning
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From stevem12@mindspring.com Sat Apr  3 04:41:38 1999
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's  2.2.X kernel?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 23:41:38 -0500
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YOu are correct.  I found the kernel 2.2.5 rpm.  I have been looking in the
suse_update/kernel directory for it.  Silly me......:-)

Steve

On 02-Apr-99 Herman Knief wrote:
>=20
> Actually, if you go to the update directory on the SuSE ftp site, there
> is an lx_suse.rpm package that is SuSE's 2.2.3 Kernel package, which can
> be setup under rpm as an upgrade.
>=20
>  - Herman
>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:        Terry Eck [SMTP:eck(a)raytheon.com]
>> Sent:        Friday, April 02, 1999 12:52 PM
>> To:  Tim van Venrooij
>> Cc:  SuSE
>> Subject:     Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE's  2.2.X kernel?
>>=20
>>=20
>> Tim van Venrooij wrote:
>> >=20
>> > ...it is already out there (kernel 2.2.3 for SuSE).
>> > Check out the updates at the SuSE internet site.
>> >=20
>> > Don't panic
>> > Tim.
>> Is this site called ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/kernel?
>> If so then I think the only kernel with SuSE updates in
>> it is called linux-2.0.36.SuSE.tgz. Please correct me if=20
>> I'm wrong. I'm also interested in updating to kernel 2.2.3
>> but I have yet to see any kernel 2.2.X with SuSE finger prints.
>>=20
>> Regards,
>> Terry
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From tomchang@cisco.com Sat Apr  3 04:59:37 1999
From: tomchang@cisco.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] TK 8.00.013
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Hi!=20
  I have suse 5.3 and I tried to compile with Tk800.013=20
  It keep giving me errors. Does anyone expiernece the same problem? Or
anyone has a solution for this?? Thank you very much!!

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From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Sat Apr  3 05:00:19 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IDC Says Linux likely to lead OS growth
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote:

>=20
> Some good news!
>=20
> Fred
> _______________
>=20
> http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-03/lw-03-idc.html?0=
4-01>

IDC may have seen the light, but they are still in the dark.

The article mentioned clustering technology as one
of the things still missing. Why, then, do I remember
some news about IBM outperforming a CRAY supercomputer
with a cluster of 17 Linux machines?


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From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Apr  3 05:04:30 1999
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Some good news!

Fred
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From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sat Apr  3 05:06:59 1999
From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Communication with parallel port
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On 03-Apr-99 zentara wrote:
>=20
> "(Ted Harding)" wrote:
>>=20
>> Does anyone know of anything which would let me have a little
>> chat with my parallel port (/dev/lp1)?
>>=20
>=20
> cat textfile > /dev/lp1=20

Thanks for the tip, but I know how to do that. I want a little *chat*,
i.e. send it some bytes (to the printer) and read what the printer sends
back, and continue like that for a while.

(It's one of these printers that has a "printer job language" that
enables it to report sundry status info by the parallel port; it comes
with a DOS utility for the purpose, but I'd prefer to avoid using that).

With thanks,
Ted.

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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr  3 05:11:15 1999
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I've had a little trouble with xkb in S.u.S.E. Changing keymaps and
symbols has been fine, and setting it up to use the xfree86(us_microsoft)
keymap was fine -- except that regular users are unable to use the Windows
keys. It seems like a permission thing, xkb is running fine even under
normal users, so I can't think what it might be. root is perfectly able to
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From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr  3 05:15:11 1999
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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 20:15:11 -0900
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My family bought me a HP 695C for my birthday and I have yet=20
to get it to print a page of anything. Anyone using this beast already
under SuSE care to toss me what steps you took to tame it ?

Thanks

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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr  3 05:28:22 1999
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On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, W.D.McKinney wrote:
> My family bought me a HP 695C for my birthday and I have yet=20
> to get it to print a page of anything. Anyone using this beast already
> under SuSE care to toss me what steps you took to tame it ?

I don't know about 6, but I know that using my HP DJ500C with apsfilter
via YaST under 5.2 didn't work. Well, it did -- except that it printed
*everything* in PostScript. I despise apsfilter anyway.
On that note, does anyone know if there's a problem with 5.2's lpr? It
seems not to like it when a printcap entry isn't followed by a line of
text. I don't *think* I've encountered this before. Is it a bug?

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From francis.j.bruening@bigfoot.com Sat Apr  3 05:33:51 1999
From: francis.j.bruening@bigfoot.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Help with SuSE 6.0 & DCHP support of @Home cable service
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 21:33:51 -0800
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Greetings,

I'm fairly new to Linux, having installed 6.0 a few days ago. I'm trying to
get DCHP
working on my @home cable modem.

I believe I have eth0 configured correctly, but DCHPD times out and doesn't
find a valid IP address
Because @Home DCHP service requires a "hostname". I tried the "-h" flag, but
dhcpd doesn't
See that as a valid flag?

What do I need to do to get this going?

Thanks in advance.

Francis J. Bruening
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sat Apr  3 05:58:37 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 07:58:37 +0200
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Stan Koper wrote:
>=20
> The boot file in /sbin/init.d already has this command in it.  I see from
> the ipfwadm script that it's supposed to test for the presence of ipfwadm,
> and if it isn't there, then it tries to run ipchains.  I'm only a little
> mystified as to why, when I boot kernel 2.2.5, networking doesn't work.  But
> apparently linux is trying to run ipfwadm and it isn't working.

That's why you need ipchains. BTW, ipchains comes with a wrapper script,
so the old ipfwadmin commands should work again, if you have removed
ipfwadmin and installed ipchains.

BTW, please don't CC. Mails are arriving doubly, if you do.

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From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sat Apr  3 06:58:13 1999
From: dwj@linuxtoday.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Getting a clue on ISDN
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 22:58:13 -0800
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My ISDN was installed today and I have it working on Win95 at 115KB.

Now I want to make it work on Linux but I don't have a clue where to
begin.

I am in the US and my provider is USWest.net. I have a 3ComImpactIQ
external ISDN modem supplied by US West.

My platform is SuSE 5.2 and I am using the 2.0.33 kernel.

Most of the documentation seems to be for the German ISDN service,
which I understand is different in essential aspects from the US.

Any information that will enable me to move ahead will be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Dwight

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From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr  3 07:39:49 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] No printer under SuSE 6.0!
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 22:39:49 -0900
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Well no matter what I try, I can't anything out of my SuSE 6.0
install to print. BEoS 4.0 prints just fine though to HP 695C.
So ...it's not hardware but software.

Bummer.

-Dee

W.D.McKinney (Dee) deem(a)wdm.com
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From rimez@surfree.com Sat Apr  3 07:43:42 1999
From: rimez@surfree.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] vgetty
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Has anyone been able to setup vgetty in SuSE 6.0? I've actually been able to
get it to run w/o error upon start-up but I'm having two problems:
1. I just can't seem to get vm to record a darn message.=20
2 I can't use my modem while vgetty is running. Am I correct in assuming that
this can't be avoided? =20
Anyone want to help me? I would be most appreciative.
thanks alot ;-)
rimez

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From brauki@cityweb.de Sat Apr  3 09:12:33 1999
From: brauki@cityweb.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 11:12:33 +0200
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hhv wrote:
>=20
> Stan Koper wrote:
> > So if anyone has any helpful suggestions as to why ip-forwarding isn't
> > working, let me know.  Thanks.
>=20
> you need to 'echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' on startup.
> Put in /sbin/init.d/boot.local. And yes, you need ipchains. It's
> on the suse cdroms. So you can install it via Yast. Have you

yes. but where? I=C5=BDve spend some time to find it, but did not succeed.
do you know the name of the package?

Juergen


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From brauki@cityweb.de Sat Apr  3 09:39:27 1999
From: brauki@cityweb.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] No printer under SuSE 6.0!
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 11:39:27 +0200
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"W.D.McKinney" wrote:
>=20
> Well no matter what I try, I can't anything out of my SuSE 6.0
> install to print. BEoS 4.0 prints just fine though to HP 695C.
> So ...it's not hardware but software.
>=20
> Bummer.
>=20
> -Dee

Dee, I havn=C5=BDt realy followed this thread, but I remember you tried to
cat a file to /dev/lp0 /dev/lp1 or /dev/lp2.

How is your BIOS setup for the paralel port? I had some *nice* and long
experience with "auto" config and laplink (DOS) last weekend. I *hate*
auto features.

Which kernel do you use? printing as a module? With 2.2.x there are a
few entries in conf.modules to make the damm thing work. (if modules)
Took me some time to:

# post-install paride insmod frpw
# pre-remove paride rmmod frpw
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
options parport_pc io=3D0x378

I hope this is all, just in case this fits, look at the archive of
march. I found it there. Make sure you use the proper address. (can add
the irq as well, works in my case without)

Juergen


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From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Sat Apr  3 09:46:59 1999
From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 dialup problem
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 10:46:59 +0100
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Hi

 After finding a problem which I thought was to do with something=20
else I have deleted the system and started again.  I couldn't find a=20
file to edit to sort out the problem so I thought the best answer was=20
to start again.

 After getting round to editing the samba files I have found that the=20
same problem has returned yet again.  When I boot the linux box I=20
find that it tries to dial in to my ISP right away.  I can't find any=20
docs that explain what this may be about.  Not even a clue ?  It then=20
connects and then disconnects and carries on in that way for about=20
ten minutes.

 To get to this point I have added lines to etc/service....  swat=20
901/tcp  and /etc/inetd.conf....  swat  stream tcp   nowait 400  =20
root   /usr/sbin/swat  swat.

 As I say, I can't find any explanation for this.  Could someone=20
please send some e-mail if they can figure it out ?

        As a seperate issue I have keyed in "wvdial. tcl" and wvdial. tcl &" =

as well as "wvdial tcl" into a terminal window.  The GUI doesn't=20
appear.  Instead of this wvdial starts and then dials and disconnects=20
for ten minutes.   Why doesn't the GUI come up ?

Thanks

Richard
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0973 682181

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From lunaslide@pacbell.net Sat Apr  3 10:23:42 1999
From: lunaslide@pacbell.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] TK 8.00.013
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 02:23:42 -0800
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Che-Ming Chang wrote:
>=20
> Hi!
>   I have suse 5.3 and I tried to compile with Tk800.013
>   It keep giving me errors. Does anyone expiernece the same problem? Or
> anyone has a solution for this?? Thank you very much!!
>=20
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I just installed tcl 8.0.3 and tk 8.0.3 tonight.  What I did was=20

cp tcl8.0.3.tar.gz /usr/local/
cp tk8.0.3.tar.gz /usr/local/
tar -xzvf tcl8.0.3.tar.gz
tar -xzvf tk8.0.3.tar.gz
cd tcl8.0.3/unix
./configure
make install
cd ../..
cd tk8.0.3/unix
make install

they both work, but I'm not sure that all tk and tcl programs will work
with them becuase some links may be out of wack.  But I'm using tcl/tk
for AOL's Instant Messenger client for UNIX and for the comanche
configuration tool for apache without trouble.


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From yatsen-ng@cistron.nl Sat Apr  3 11:34:26 1999
From: yatsen-ng@cistron.nl
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Subject:
 Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: KPPP Configuration - What's wrong with this  picture?
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:34:26 +0200
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I got rid of 'Locked' by invoking 'mcedit /etc/ppp/options' .  I also did 'ch=
mod a+s
/usr/sbin/pppd'. It's still not working properly. When it dials up I see the =
text
'enabling pppd...' Once pppd is enabled that text is supposed to change into =
'pppd
enabled' or something , I suppose. That never happens. Anyway, when I try to
retrieve mail with the mailclient the whole program seems to lock up and I ge=
t the
dreaded "unexpected death" - I can't even close the windows anymore (this is =
scary
because it's like mswindows!). When I  try to log out I get "preparing sessio=
n" and
it dials up once again. I do manage to log out eventually. In notice that oth=
ers
don't have any problems I have while others do. Is there anything else I need=
 to
take care of in the configuration?


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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sat Apr  3 13:55:14 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Apache. Error running CGI-script.
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 08:55:14 -0500
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John,

I guess I don't understand what you want.  I am the world's greatest expert on
perl and cgi because I have two weeks of part time experience so you can trust
everything I say ;-).

I clicked on the link you sent for test.pl and I just happen to have that
script which runs fine on my box.  I then copied the script to the same
location but with the name test.cgi, and it still runs fine.  Here's the
output:

Date: Sat Apr 3 08:50:32 1999
0.000000E+00NV:
SERVER_SOFTWARE =3D Apache/1.3.4 (Unix) SuSE/6.0 PHP/3.0.6 mod_perl/1.17
mod_ssl/2.1.7 SSLeay/0.9.0b
GATEWAY_INTERFACE =3D CGI/1.1
DOCUMENT_ROOT =3D /usr/local/httpd/htdocs
UNIQUE_ID =3D NwYcqAoKCgYAAAFWEXA
REMOTE_ADDR =3D 127.0.0.1
SERVER_PROTOCOL =3D HTTP/1.0
SERVER_SIGNATURE =3D
Apache/1.3.4 Server at nariana.arbeitsgruppe.sprintmail.com Port 80

REQUEST_METHOD =3D GET
QUERY_STRING =3D
HTTP_USER_AGENT =3D Mozilla/4.51 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.3 i686)
PATH =3D /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/bsd:/usr/local/bin
HTTP_ACCEPT =3D image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/pn=
g,
*/*
HTTP_CONNECTION =3D Keep-Alive
REMOTE_PORT =3D 1169
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE =3D en
SCRIPT_NAME =3D /cgi-bin/test.cgi
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING =3D gzip
SCRIPT_FILENAME =3D /usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin/test.cgi
HTTP_PRAGMA =3D no-cache
SERVER_NAME =3D nariana.arbeitsgruppe.sprintmail.com
REQUEST_URI =3D /cgi-bin/test.cgi
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET =3D iso-8859-1,*,utf-8
SERVER_PORT =3D 80
HTTP_HOST =3D localhost
SERVER_ADMIN =3D root(a)localhost
#################################

Is this the script you are working with?

#!/usr/bin/perl

# your httpd.conf should have something like this:

# Alias /perl/  /real/path/to/perl-scripts/

# 
# SetHandler  perl-script
# PerlHandler Apache::Registry
# PerlSendHeader On
# Options +ExecCGI
# 

print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";

print "Date: ", scalar localtime, "
\n"; print "0.000000E+00NV:
\n", map { "$_ =3D $ENV{$_}
\n" } keys 0.00000= 0E+00NV; ############################################################### I know "works fine here may not be the best answer, but sometimes it helps. Did you set the permissions on the test.cgi to something like 755? Steve John Ericson wrote: > Hi, > > Im trying to run a small CGI script wish is written in perl. It work when I > write this in netscape: "
http://localhost/cgi-bin/test.pl>", but if I rename > it to test.cgi and write: "http://localhost/cgi-bin/test.= cgi>" in netscape, > I get an "500 Internal Server Error" message, and my httpd.error_log says: > > httpd: [Sat Apr 3 02:30:20 1999] [error] (13)Permission denied: exec of > /usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin/test.cgi failed > httpd: [Sat Apr 3 02:30:20 1999] [error] [client 190.64.0.1] Premature end > of script headers: /usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin/test.cgi > > If anyone has any ideas on how to solve this, please mail me. > > / John > UIN: 7325429 > E-MAIL: john.ericson(a)home.se > URL: http:/hem2.passagen.se/highlndr > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- http:/= /www.winehq.com> | I think. http://www= .suse.com> | I think I am. http://www.k= de.org> | Therefore I am. ht= tp://samba.anu.edu.au> | I think? - Moody Blues -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8916000348846347876==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 3 14:00:10 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Getting a clue on ISDN Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 09:00:10 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6532650914832154526==" --===============6532650914832154526== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Dwight Johnson wrote: > I am in the US and my provider is USWest.net. I have a 3ComImpactIQ > external ISDN modem supplied by US West. >=20 > My platform is SuSE 5.2 and I am using the 2.0.33 kernel. >=20 > Most of the documentation seems to be for the German ISDN service, > which I understand is different in essential aspects from the US. >=20 > Any information that will enable me to move ahead will be much appreciated. Tried the ISDN-HOWTO? ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6532650914832154526==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sat Apr 3 14:27:16 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] BJC-4000: no color Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 09:27:16 -0500 Message-ID: <37062544.91E16B08@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3302404862127303367==" --===============3302404862127303367== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having a problem printing with my ancient Cannon BJC-4000. At first I couldn't print at all and found it necessary to rm -r /var/spool/lpd, rm /etc/printcap and reinstall the lpd and lpdold (or whatever you call that UCB print stuff) using yast. I then whent under the configure hardware|printers and selected bjc-600. This got the printer to print. As I remember there used to be four apsfilters in my printcap. One of them had the word 'color' in it. I am not currently able to print color. Here's what my current printcap looks like: ascii|lp1|bjc600-letter-ascii-mono-360|bjc600 letter ascii mono 360:\ :lp=3D/dev/lp0:\ :sd=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-ascii-mono-360:\ :lf=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-ascii-mono-360/log:\ :af=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-ascii-mono-360/acct:\ :if=3D/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/bjc600-letter-ascii-mono-360:\ :la@:mx#0:\ :sh:sf: # lp|lp2|bjc600-letter-auto-mono-360|bjc600 letter auto mono 360:\ :lp=3D/dev/lp0:\ :sd=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-auto-mono-360:\ :lf=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-auto-mono-360/log:\ :af=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-auto-mono-360/acct:\ :if=3D/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/bjc600-letter-auto-mono-360:\ :la@:mx#0:\ :sh:sf: # raw|lp3|bjc600-letter-raw|bjc600 letter raw:\ :lp=3D/dev/lp0:\ :sd=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-raw:\ :lf=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-raw/log:\ :af=3D/var/spool/lpd/bjc600-letter-raw/acct:\ :if=3D/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/bjc600-letter-raw:\ :la@:mx#0:\ :sh:sf: # ### END apsfilter: ### bjc600 letter mono 360 ### And my /var/spool/lpd: bash-2.02# pwd /var/spool/lpd bash-2.02# ls -RFal total 5 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 1024 Apr 2 19:01 ./ drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 1024 Apr 2 19:01 ../ drwxr-xr-x 2 lp lp 1024 Apr 2 19:01 bjc600-letter-ascii-mono-360/ drwxr-xr-x 2 lp lp 1024 Apr 3 09:15 bjc600-letter-auto-mono-360/ drwxr-xr-x 2 lp lp 1024 Apr 2 19:01 bjc600-letter-raw/ bjc600-letter-ascii-mono-360: total 2 drwxr-xr-x 2 lp lp 1024 Apr 2 19:01 ./ drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 1024 Apr 2 19:01 ../ -rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 acct -rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 lock -rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 log -rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 status bjc600-letter-auto-mono-360: total 5 drwxr-xr-x 2 lp lp 1024 Apr 3 09:15 ./ drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 1024 Apr 2 19:01 ../ -rw------- 1 lp root 18 Apr 3 09:14 .seq.nariana.arbeitsgruppe.sprintmail.com -rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 acct -rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 3 09:15 lock -rw-r----- 1 lp lp 85 Apr 3 09:14 log -rw-r----- 1 lp lp 38 Apr 3 09:15 status bjc600-letter-raw: total 2 drwxr-xr-x 2 lp lp 1024 Apr 2 19:01 ./ drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 1024 Apr 2 19:01 ../ -rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 acct -rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 lock -rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 log -rw-r----- 1 lp lp 0 Apr 2 19:01 status bash-2.02# Am I doing something wrong? Is there a way to fix this? TIA, Steve -- http:/= /www.winehq.com> | I think. http://www= .suse.com> | I think I am. http://www.k= de.org> | Therefore I am. ht= tp://samba.anu.edu.au> | I think? - Moody Blues -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3302404862127303367==-- From richwill@innotts.co.uk Sat Apr 3 14:41:20 1999 From: richwill@innotts.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading KDE Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:41:20 +0100 Message-ID: <003a01be7de0$0ca15ac0$c901a8c0@rw> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Upgrading KDE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6951797338537169000==" --===============6951797338537169000== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > It is easu, download all the files at SusE, they will be in RPM formats, > than get out of KDE (very important step), than use YaSt, go to where you > delete and install packages, you have the option to chose a directory, and > point to the directory of the rpm's, select and install I've just tried this, but when I start KDE I get the following error: libstdc++.so.2.9: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory. kbgndwn: error in loading shared library. Any ideas for a newbie would be much appreciated :) Richard Williamson -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6951797338537169000==-- From richwill@innotts.co.uk Sat Apr 3 15:43:22 1999 From: richwill@innotts.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading SuSE > 6.0 Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 16:43:22 +0100 Message-ID: <004801be7de8$b681d800$c901a8c0@rw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5139218621972972840==" --===============5139218621972972840== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I am a Linux newbie, having been given a CD with SuSE 5.2 on it. What I want to know is: is it worth me upgrading to SuSE 6.0? If so, can it be done with patches rather than downloading the whole kaboodle? Many thanks Richard Williamson -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5139218621972972840==-- From hmf@softhome.net Sat Apr 3 15:44:38 1999 From: hmf@softhome.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] kernal upgrade rpm Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 10:44:38 -0500 Message-ID: <199904031550.HAA06190@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0792080717768587757==" --===============0792080717768587757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey all I got lx_suse.rpm, installed it. Do I now have the new kernal, or must I con= figure somthing else? When I boot with=20 lilo, I think I see the old kernal number. thanks -tf -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0792080717768587757==-- From abrahams@valinet.com Sat Apr 3 16:18:46 1999 From: abrahams@valinet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Building X packages with xmkmf fails Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 11:18:46 -0500 Message-ID: <37063F65.9A336B1E@valinet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3431577770683011437==" --===============3431577770683011437== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've tried to build two different X packages, apparently developed in a Sun environment, for use under SuSE Linux 5.3. The standard procedure for doing this is to type `xmkmf', which uses the included Imakefile to build a Makefile, and then typing `make' or `make all' to compile the program from its sources. In each case `make' died on the following complaint: pwa(a)pleurotus:/aux2/local/packages/spider > make all Makefile:381: *** missing separator. Stop. The text at line 381 of the Makefile (for *both* packages) is: ProjectUnsharedLibReferences(XSS,Xss,$(XSSLIBSRC),$(TOP)/exports/lib) XXF86MISCLIBSRC =3D $(LIBSRC)/Xxf86misc These lines are followed by several similar lines. Since this seems to be a systematic problem, it probably has a systematic solution. Is it just due to some difference between Gnu make as used under Linux and the Sun version of make, I wonder? Has anyone else encountered this? Any suggestions for what to do about it? Paul Abrahams -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3431577770683011437==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 3 17:21:30 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] kernal upgrade rpm Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 12:21:30 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904031550.HAA06190@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5598588416843824463==" --===============5598588416843824463== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, tf wrote: > hey all >=20 > I got lx_suse.rpm, installed it. Do I now have the new kernal, or must I c= onfigure somthing else? When I boot with=20 > lilo, I think I see the old kernal number. Yeah. You have to compile it and install it. I don't recommend getting the SuSE sources, though, because you can't patch them using standard kernel patches from ftp sites -- and I don't think SuSE provides kernel patches. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5598588416843824463==-- From graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk Sat Apr 3 17:35:58 1999 From: graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] kernal upgrade rpm Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:35:58 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904031550.HAA06190@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6997073930196367649==" --===============6997073930196367649== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tf writes: > hey all >=20 > I got lx_suse.rpm, installed it. Do I now have the new kernal, or > must I configure somthing else? When I boot with lilo, I think I > see the old kernal number. No. You just have the source. You must now build the new kernel. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6997073930196367649==-- From mperry@basin.com Sat Apr 3 17:52:27 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] kernal upgrade rpm Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 09:52:27 -0800 Message-ID: <199904031752.JAA13211@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2035070145302516307==" --===============2035070145302516307== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3 Apr, Ewan Dunbar wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, tf wrote: >> hey all >>=20 >> I got lx_suse.rpm, installed it. Do I now have the new kernal, or must I = configure somthing else? When I boot with=20 >> lilo, I think I see the old kernal number. >=20 > Yeah. You have to compile it and install it. I don't recommend getting the > SuSE sources, though, because you can't patch them using standard kernel > patches from ftp sites -- and I don't think SuSE provides kernel patches. >=20 > ------------------------------------------------ > Ewan Dunbar > ------------------------------------------------ > Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at > http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.h= tml> > ------------------------------------------------ >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> You can get the kernel sources from www.kernel.org or www.linuxhq.com. I dont think I have ever used an rpm file for a kernel. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2035070145302516307==-- From hlarons@ComCAT.COM Sat Apr 3 18:01:32 1999 From: hlarons@ComCAT.COM To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Mysterious /var/log Message Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:01:32 -0500 Message-ID: <19990403130132.A489@BeagleDog> In-Reply-To: <3703F3BD.D355D2B9@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2579938090582087651==" --===============2579938090582087651== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Apr 02, 1999, hhv wrote: >=20 > Howard Arons wrote: > >=20 > > Apr 1 10:58:51 localhost modprobe: can't locate module ppp0 > > Apr 1 10:58:51 localhost kernel: registered device ppp0 > >=20 > > Why on earth is modprobe trying to load this? >=20 > Because your /etc/conf.modules doesn't contain the line > alias ppp0 off > Presumably there is a line 'alias ppp0 ppp". Change it accordingly. Well, 'alias ppp0 off' solved the problem. Thanks. Funny thing is, I=20 /knew/ this...I just didn't remember it when it counted :-( Howard Arons --=20 Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- Upgraded to kernel 2.0.36 Communications by Mutt 0.93.2i -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2579938090582087651==-- From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 3 20:34:31 1999 From: richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 dialup problem Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 21:34:31 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01be7e93$f29fbe00$261a883e@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 dialup problem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2085491667014614470==" --===============2085491667014614470== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Wild stab in the dark, I am a newbie, do you reckon the problem is to do with diald? Are you using YaST to setup your modem and ISP? I had this same problem and I solved it by connecting to my ISP without setting up my modem and ISP with YaST. Cheers Rich -----Original Message----- From: Richard Ibbotson To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: 03 April 1999 11:34 Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 dialup problem Hi After finding a problem which I thought was to do with something else I have deleted the system and started again. I couldn't find a file to edit to sort out the problem so I thought the best answer was to start again. After getting round to editing the samba files I have found that the same problem has returned yet again. When I boot the linux box I find that it tries to dial in to my ISP right away. I can't find any docs that explain what this may be about. Not even a clue ? It then connects and then disconnects and carries on in that way for about ten minutes. To get to this point I have added lines to etc/service.... swat 901/tcp and /etc/inetd.conf.... swat stream tcp nowait 400 root /usr/sbin/swat swat. As I say, I can't find any explanation for this. Could someone please send some e-mail if they can figure it out ? As a seperate issue I have keyed in "wvdial. tcl" and wvdial. tcl &" as well as "wvdial tcl" into a terminal window. The GUI doesn't appear. Instead of this wvdial starts and then dials and disconnects for ten minutes. Why doesn't the GUI come up ? Thanks Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2085491667014614470==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sat Apr 3 20:58:49 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Not So Successful 2.2.5 Kernel Upgrade Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 22:58:49 +0200 Message-ID: <37068109.4C6E20AF@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <3705DB81.785D46E0@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2552042717712277023==" --===============2552042717712277023== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Juergen Braukmann wrote: >=20 > > you need to 'echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' on startup. > > Put in /sbin/init.d/boot.local. And yes, you need ipchains. It's > > on the suse cdroms. So you can install it via Yast. Have you >=20 > yes. but where? I=C5=BDve spend some time to find it, but did not succeed. > do you know the name of the package? Start YaST, choose/install packages, change/create configuration, then hit F4, choose 'All Packages', choose 'All Packages (excluding sources)', then mark 'ipchains' and hit F10, ... Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - h.vossieck(a)ndh.net - http://www.hhv.de> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2552042717712277023==-- From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sat Apr 3 21:08:40 1999 From: dwj@linuxtoday.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Getting a clue on ISDN Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:08:40 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5433211641312068036==" --===============5433211641312068036== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote: > On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Dwight Johnson wrote: > > I am in the US and my provider is USWest.net. I have a 3ComImpactIQ > > external ISDN modem supplied by US West. > >=20 > > My platform is SuSE 5.2 and I am using the 2.0.33 kernel. > >=20 > > Most of the documentation seems to be for the German ISDN service, > > which I understand is different in essential aspects from the US. > >=20 > > Any information that will enable me to move ahead will be much appreciate= d. >=20 > Tried the ISDN-HOWTO? Gladly, but I wasn't able to see one in English. What is the URL for the document? Thanks, Dwight -- http:/= /linuxtoday.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5433211641312068036==-- From dan_tudor@home.ro Sat Apr 3 21:15:12 1999 From: dan_tudor@home.ro To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] HP DeskJet 695C and SuSE 6.0 ? Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 00:15:12 +0300 Message-ID: <99040400170302.08455@Darkside> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2037117121807748635==" --===============2037117121807748635== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hate to admit but I haven't been able to make my printer work too - it's a HP Deskjet 690C. Indeed soem tips concerning the steps that should be taken would be great. Dan. On Sat, 03 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote: >On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, W.D.McKinney wrote:=20 >> My family bought me a HP 695C for my birthday and I have yet =20 >> to get it to print a page of anything. Anyone using this beast already=20 >> under SuSE care to toss me what steps you took to tame it ?=20 >=20 >I don't know about 6, but I know that using my HP DJ500C with apsfilter=20 >via YaST under 5.2 didn't work. Well, it did -- except that it printed=20 >*everything* in PostScript. I despise apsfilter anyway.=20 >On that note, does anyone know if there's a problem with 5.2's lpr? It=20 >seems not to like it when a printcap entry isn't followed by a line of=20 >text. I don't *think* I've encountered this before. Is it a bug?=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2037117121807748635==-- From reynald_w@yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 21:18:36 1999 From: reynald_w@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Logitech Cordless Wheel Mouse Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:18:36 -0800 Message-ID: <19990403211836.29774.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8931053808913643251==" --===============8931053808913643251== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had to get me one of these mice. It works as a pointer in Linux with no problems. Good 'ol Logitech. But the wheel would be a nice feature to have work while I'm in Linux. Anyone know of any support for the Wheel portion? The SuSE database says it doesn't have support but you can get the button part of the wheel to work. But the date was kinda old and perhaps there is support somewhere. Does anyone know where I could get such information? Also, a friend of mine is having troubles with his modem. Its a Jaton 56K internal. The Communicator I believe is it. It isn't a WinModem at least. But I tried to set it up for him and had no luck. Minicom doesn't wanna work right. None of the AT commands return anything. And PPP returns an i/o error.=20 Anyone have any information on these modems? Thanks in advance. Ren West ren(a)ssm.ca =3D=3D=3D Ren West Software Support Analyst MNet / PSDi Reynald_W(a)yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8931053808913643251==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 3 21:40:37 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Getting a clue on ISDN Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 16:40:37 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3152817003150462351==" --===============3152817003150462351== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Dwight Johnson wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote: >=20 > > On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Dwight Johnson wrote: > > > Most of the documentation seems to be for the German ISDN service, > > > which I understand is different in essential aspects from the US. > > >=20 > > > Any information that will enable me to move ahead will be much apprecia= ted. > >=20 > > Tried the ISDN-HOWTO? >=20 > Gladly, but I wasn't able to see one in English. What is the URL for > the document? Certainly. Try the Linux Documentation Project at <http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/>>. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3152817003150462351==-- From john.ericson@home.se Sat Apr 3 21:44:56 1999 From: john.ericson@home.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Apache. Error running CGI-script. Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:44:56 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19990403134456.416712b8@mail1.mail.home.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1305021973796449855==" --===============1305021973796449855== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Im trying to run a small CGI script wish is written in perl. It work when I write this in netscape: "http://localhost/cgi-bin/test.pl>", but if I rename it to test.cgi and write: "http://localhost/cgi-bin/test.cg= i>" in netscape, I get an "500 Internal Server Error" message, and my httpd.error_log says:=20 httpd: [Sat Apr 3 02:30:20 1999] [error] (13)Permission denied: exec of /usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin/test.cgi failed=20 httpd: [Sat Apr 3 02:30:20 1999] [error] [client 190.64.0.1] Premature end of script headers: /usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin/test.cgi If anyone has any ideas on how to solve this, please mail me.=20 / John UIN: 7325429 E-MAIL: john.ericson(a)home.se URL: http:/hem2.passagen.se/highlndr -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1305021973796449855==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 3 21:48:29 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading SuSE > 6.0 Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:48:29 -0600 Message-ID: <37068CAD.99C2840F@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <004801be7de8$b681d800$c901a8c0@rw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5183099011075110232==" --===============5183099011075110232== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable IMHO, 5.2 is an excellent distro. It's only drawback is that it is based on the old libc5 libraries whereas 6.0 is based on the new libc6 libraries. If I were you I'd wait until version 6.1 came out because it will also include the new 2.2.x kernel in that distro... JLK Richard Williamson wrote: >=20 > Hi all, > I am a Linux newbie, having been given a CD with SuSE 5.2 on it. What I > want to know is: is it worth me upgrading to SuSE 6.0? If so, can it be > done with patches rather than downloading the whole kaboodle? >=20 > Many thanks > Richard Williamson >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5183099011075110232==-- From e.ten.have@hccnet.nl Sat Apr 3 22:11:51 1999 From: e.ten.have@hccnet.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Error recompiling patched kernel Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 00:11:51 +0200 Message-ID: <000801be7e1f$1e6257c0$0974adc1@e.ten.havehccnet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0387596785600690326==" --===============0387596785600690326== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello there, I`ve been a linux user since SuSE 6.0 was out. And verry happy exloring its possibillities. A few days ago I downloaded kernel 2.2.3 and got it working as good as 2.0.36 Tonight I tried my luck on patching it up to 2.2.4 All went wel until the make bzlilo bit, this ended saying: gcc -D_KERNEL_ -I/usr/src/linux/include 0DCPU=3D586 -c -o acct.o acct.c acct.c:In function `sys_acct`: acct.c:197 : too few arguments to function `filp_close` acct.c:203 : too few arguments to function `filp_close` make[2] ***[acct.o] error 1 make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/kernel` make[1] *** [first_rule] error 2 make[1] : Leaving directory`/usr/src/linux.kernel` make : ***[_dir_kernel] error 2 Is there anyone who can help me get rid of this message,since I am quite new too linux and compiling anything I havent got a clue where too look for answers regarding this error. I`m running linux on a pentium 75 on hdb (wich is a quantum bigfoot of 2 gb) thanks in advance for any help comming my way Eelco ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- hopefully soon to be powered by S u S E 6.0 (kernel 2.2.4 ?) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0387596785600690326==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Sat Apr 3 22:34:01 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Apache. Error running CGI-script. Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:34:01 -0500 Message-ID: <37069759.57F715B7@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.19990403134456.416712b8@mail1.mail.home.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3923669178257397700==" --===============3923669178257397700== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Ericson wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Im trying to run a small CGI script wish is written in perl. It work when I > write this in netscape: "http://localhost/cgi-bin/test.pl>", but if I rename > it to test.cgi and write: "http://localhost/cgi-bin/test.= cgi>" in netscape, > I get an "500 Internal Server Error" message, and my httpd.error_log says: > If anyone has any ideas on how to solve this, please mail me. I'm not sure the exact lines to use, but you must specify the .cgi type to be allowed in your http.conf. I think it is called an "AddHandler" I have a line " AddHandler cgi-script .cgi" But I don't know if you can run a perl script as a .cgi file, it might conflict with the Addhandler for perl scripts. Try running a bash shell script with a .cgi ending. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3923669178257397700==-- From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sat Apr 3 22:42:48 1999 From: dwj@linuxtoday.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Getting a clue on ISDN Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 14:42:48 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1310447443266838676==" --===============1310447443266838676== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote: > > > Tried the ISDN-HOWTO? > >=20 > > Gladly, but I wasn't able to see one in English. What is the URL for > > the document? >=20 > Certainly. Try the Linux Documentation Project at > <http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/>>. That was the first place I tried. I didn't see it there in the alphabetical list of HOWTOs. Is this a document you are personally familiar with? Dwight -- http:/= /linuxtoday.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1310447443266838676==-- From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr 3 22:46:20 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] HP DeskJet 695C and SuSE 6.0 ? Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:46:20 -0900 Message-ID: <199904032246.NAA02229@wdm.com> In-Reply-To: <99040400170302.08455@Darkside> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4017259201187200046==" --===============4017259201187200046== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan Tudor wrote: >=20 > Hate to admit but I haven't been able to make my printer work too - it's a = HP > Deskjet 690C. Indeed soem tips concerning the steps that should be taken wo= uld > be great. Well my new HP DeskJet 695C works in other OS's fine. Sure would like to see it under SuSE also. Anyone working at SuSE have a similiar one working maybe ? Thanks -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4017259201187200046==-- From paulsen@imailbox.com Sat Apr 3 23:13:04 1999 From: paulsen@imailbox.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Access to tape drive from rescue boot (SuSE 6.0) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:13:04 -0600 Message-ID: <99040317162400.21222@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0971834988087562710==" --===============0971834988087562710== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I created a rescue boot disk from /cdrom/disks/scsi02. This boots just fine. But, when I try to access my tape drive I get an error: > mt -f /dev/st0 status mt: /dev/st0: Operation not supported by device. I have no trouble getting to the tape from a "normal" boot of SuSE. I have the 6.0 version. Any hints on what I need to do to get access to my tape from the rescue boot? Thanks! ____________________________________________________________________ Robert Paulsen http://paulsen.home.texas.ne= t> paulsen(a)imailbox.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0971834988087562710==-- From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr 3 23:18:48 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Access to tape drive from rescue boot (SuSE 6.0) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 14:18:48 -0900 Message-ID: <199904032318.OAA03571@wdm.com> In-Reply-To: <99040317162400.21222@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2910748478241544752==" --===============2910748478241544752== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert C Paulsen Jr wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I created a rescue boot disk from /cdrom/disks/scsi02. This boots just fine. >=20 > But, when I try to access my tape drive I get an error: >=20 > > mt -f /dev/st0 status > mt: /dev/st0: Operation not supported by device. >=20 > I have no trouble getting to the tape from a "normal" boot of SuSE. I have = the > 6.0 version. >=20 > Any hints on what I need to do to get access to my tape from the rescue boo= t? >=20 I had trouble with my: <4> Vendor: HP Model: T4000s Rev: 1.10 <4> Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 This due to running a AHA2940UW. I had to make monolithic kernel under 2.2.5 to get it to work with Bru 15.0. -Dee W.D.McKinney (Dee) deem(a)wdm.com Vision & Passion are keys to success. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2910748478241544752==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sat Apr 3 23:24:57 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Error recompiling patched kernel Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 01:24:57 +0200 Message-ID: <3706A349.60EA9031@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <000801be7e1f$1e6257c0$0974adc1@e.ten.havehccnet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0929975863810795972==" --===============0929975863810795972== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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--===============0929975863810795972==-- From tdburden@bright.net Sun Apr 4 00:18:25 1999 From: tdburden@bright.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] HP DeskJet 695C and SuSE 6.0 ? Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 19:18:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3706AFD1.448D6852@bright.net> In-Reply-To: <199904032246.NAA02229@wdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7418501209604919092==" --===============7418501209604919092== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "W.D.McKinney" wrote: >=20 > Dan Tudor wrote: > > > > Hate to admit but I haven't been able to make my printer work too - it's = a HP > > Deskjet 690C. Indeed soem tips concerning the steps that should be taken = would > > be great. >=20 > Well my new HP DeskJet 695C works in other OS's fine. Sure would like to see > it under SuSE also. >=20 > Anyone working at SuSE have a similiar one working maybe ? >=20 > Thanks > -Dee I have a 697C on suse 6.0 running w/o problems using apsfilter and the cdj550 driver. I just ran the install & it worked. Prior to suse I ran the same combo on redhat without problems. Barring any drastic differences between the 695C and 697C I don't think it's a suse or apsfilter problem. What happens when you attempt to print? Can you cat a text file directly to the printer port? Is your lpd running? Are you sure you have the correct port (I've been burned by this one)? Just throwing out ideas for further troubleshooting. -- terry -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at
<= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7418501209604919092==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 4 02:15:54 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Getting a clue on ISDN Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 21:15:54 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8229858782915087630==" --===============8229858782915087630== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Dwight Johnson wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote: >=20 > > > > Tried the ISDN-HOWTO? > > >=20 > > > Gladly, but I wasn't able to see one in English. What is the URL for > > > the document? > >=20 > > Certainly. Try the Linux Documentation Project at > > <http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/>>. >=20 > That was the first place I tried. I didn't see it there in the > alphabetical list of HOWTOs. >=20 > Is this a document you are personally familiar with? No. I apologize for speaking too soon. Here, lessee... umm... here's a link you might find helpful: http://www= .muc.de/~hm/linux/linux-isdn.html> Try the Linux Networking Overview HOWTO, too. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8229858782915087630==-- From yatsen-ng@cistron.nl Sun Apr 4 02:21:16 1999 From: yatsen-ng@cistron.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 04:21:16 +0200 Message-ID: <3706CC9C.73B4F9E1@cistron.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8942273421805890880==" --===============8942273421805890880== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is incredibly funny! I'm still laughing while I'm writing this. Damn, ho= w do they come up with parts like "Linux nerd wears gasmask hastily fashioned from= a garbage bag, work goggles, a pocket protector and using the insides of a nut= ty bar as a filter"? This is too much! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8942273421805890880==-- From bc550@scn.org Sun Apr 4 03:04:05 1999 From: bc550@scn.org To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Failed 2.2.5 Upgrade Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 19:04:05 -0800 Message-ID: <99040319162900.00329@harry> In-Reply-To: <199904031752.JAA13211@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8740588294897462697==" --===============8740588294897462697== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am trying to upgrade to the 2.5.5 kernel that I downloaded from kernel.org.= =20 All goes well through the 'make menuconfig' and 'make dep clean zImage' stage= s. There is one message that passes by fleetingly about a 'nbat' variable that is not found, but it doesn't stop things. I have also successfully modified lilo so that I can keep the 2.0.36 kernel working. When I try to boot with the new kernel, it gets through finding the ide hard drives, and then it stalls with a kernel panic. In an previous effort, I had modularized the IDE drivers which stopped booting when it tried to find t= he root filesystem. Once I fixed that problem, it died just a bit later. When I fixed that probelm I also realized that I had added the ATA option, which I don't think I need for my drives. =20 These are more or less the last few lines before the system halts: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) read only Freeing unused kernel memory ... Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init=3D option to kernel I have recently added an Adaptec ATA2920C that I have yet to get recognized under 2.0.36. I have a Yamaha CD-RW drive attached to it. Any suggestions on what is wrong here? =20 Thanks. Harry -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8740588294897462697==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 4 03:33:12 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Xmodmap stuff in 5.2 (a problem solved) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 22:33:12 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0418463265478769958==" --===============0418463265478769958== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've just figured out after a total of... oh, probably several whole minutes (though spread over a few days) why I couldn't get my winkeys to work right in SuSE 5.2 -- a line in the .xinitrc file was looking for a .Xmodmap file, and first for a /var/X11R6/lib/Xmodmap file. For some reason, the users had .Xmodmap files in their home directories. (Though, when I removed them, the problem didn't go away until I moved /var/X11R6/lib/Xmodmap, which is odd, since root was having no trouble with those keys.). My question is, what do you think, in the SuSE 5.2 distribution, would have done that? And not to root? Is this different in later versions? Cause it seems sorta like compiling xiafs into the kernel (which, by the way, SuSE (5.2, anyway), does...). Whatever did it shouldn't -- they should make users go a bit out of their way to get to this deprecated program. I can understand why it would be in the .xinitrc, but I think something having to do with SuSE, possibly the user creation util, put it there. Much worse than compiling xiafs into the kernel -- doing that is actually more along the lines of putting the xmodmap stuff into the .xinitrc -- it's there if you want to use it. I doubt it was just some rude program that did this. I think it was just some program that SuSE uses that they'd forgot to change. Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0418463265478769958==-- From sabinelr@email.msn.com Sun Apr 4 06:14:45 1999 From: sabinelr@email.msn.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Same thing happens with kde Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 22:14:45 -0800 Message-ID: <003201be7e64$2b5b84c0$b54bfdd0@dracula> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Same thing happens with kde> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7457980389626137297==" --===============7457980389626137297== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Larry Sabine To: Subject: [SuSE Linux] Same thing happens with kde > > I have tried to run kde with two different installs. Each time all the kde > applications (kwm example supplied here) says this same thing: > > kwm: error in loading shared libraries > /opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol: > resizeEvent__14QMultiLineEditP12QResizeEvent > > It's probably something simple, but I am sure I don't know what. > Thanks > Larry > Certified Seat Filler I tried the advice -- downloaded all the qt lib rpm's, and put them in. Now X comes up, then dies. The command line echoes indicate that the applications before kwm start successfully, but there is nothing indicating what happens with kwm. If I try to start kwm on its own, I get a segmentation fault. I got other ideas, like reading the manual, etc, but maybe this isn't covered there. Who knows? Larry Certified Seat Filler -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7457980389626137297==-- From dward@basair.com.au Sun Apr 4 07:40:09 1999 From: dward@basair.com.au To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Help!! A few small problems Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 17:40:09 +1000 Message-ID: <199904041740090370.002E21F1@mail.hinet.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1180310142224626076==" --===============1180310142224626076== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I am having some troubles getting SuSE Linux 6 to do what I need. I am setti= ng up a Linux server for our network, running Samba to provide file sharing t= o the Win95/98 clients. All that seems to be working OK. I am then trying t= o get the server to act as an e-mail/www server via our permanent dial-up con= nection to our ISP. Problems are in a few areas: 1. The network runs fine until connected to the net. Everything then slows = down (dramatically). It would appear that anything happening on our network = is causing activity on the modem (talking to a DNS?). The system doesn't han= g - just operates VERY slowly. Disconnect the modem connection and all is OK= . Any suggestions? 2. How do I get DIALD to establish a permanent connection and then maintain = it? Or doesn't it do that? 3. Sendmail keeps giving an internal configuration error saying that the MX = record points to itself (inbound mail only). Outbound seems to get out OK. = My server is called fred and our domain is basair.com.au How should I confi= gure this? 4. How do I get squid to use use a proxy server at my ISP. My ISP does not = permit any direct Internet connections - only via their proxy server. 5. I am trying to get a RealAudio server running as well. It seems to insta= ll OK, but when I execute it it says "Cannot open PNA port 7070". I know tha= t it listens on this port to operate, but how do I set this up? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! Darrin Ward. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1180310142224626076==-- From paspartu@uni.net Sun Apr 4 10:27:01 1999 From: paspartu@uni.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] [Off Topic] What is the Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 12:27:01 +0200 Message-ID: <99040412302300.00443@kamikazen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3519381666616513839==" --===============3519381666616513839== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable correct way to pronounce Apache? At the french way (something like apash) or english way (something like apaci= ). How do they (the Apache indians) call themselves? Ciao, Maurizio. P.S. Don't feel obliged to answer :-) M. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3519381666616513839==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Apr 4 10:44:55 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help!! A few small problems Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 12:44:55 +0200 Message-ID: <370742A7.B1EB9F9E@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <199904041740090370.002E21F1@mail.hinet.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7409796572420189974==" --===============7409796572420189974== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Darrin Ward wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I am having some troubles getting SuSE Linux 6 to do what I need. I am set= ting up a Linux server for our network, running Samba to provide file sharing= to the Win95/98 clients. All that seems to be working OK. I am then trying= to get the server to act as an e-mail/www server via our permanent dial-up c= onnection to our ISP. >=20 > Problems are in a few areas: >=20 > 1. The network runs fine until connected to the net. Everything then slow= s down (dramatically). It would appear that anything happening on our networ= k is causing activity on the modem (talking to a DNS?). The system doesn't h= ang - just operates VERY slowly. Disconnect the modem connection and all is = OK. Any suggestions? >=20 What about your smb.conf? (global section) add a interfaces =3D your.eth0.ip.adress/bis_in_netmask this stops samba from dialing out. (leaves talk on ports 13x within the local net and stops senseless requests to the outside world) make sure, all local adresses are somehow resolved. (stops name server requests) > 2. How do I get DIALD to establish a permanent connection and then maintai= n it? Or doesn't it do that? >=20 Don=C5=BDt know. Id suggest to use the old ppp-up script and add an echo request to the pppd-options to force the connection up #.... /usr/sbin/pppd lock \ connect \ '/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/ppp.chat' \ $device $pppflags $localip:$remoteip \ lcp-echo-interval 20 \ lcp-echo-failure 5 >=20 > Darrin Ward. cheers Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7409796572420189974==-- From nick@namodn.com Sun Apr 4 11:14:05 1999 From: nick@namodn.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Cable Modem Question Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 11:14:05 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7543246662091744194==" --===============7543246662091744194== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Ive had my cable modem hooked up succesfully for over a month now, im using the @home services. my problem is that it doesnt seem to be as fast as its "cracked up" to be, particularly when telneting to my remote server and editing files remotely and stuff, i notice lagg quite often, short pauses when i type and then it catches up, unsteady data transfer etc. the modem is still very fast, like for downloading files i can tell the speed difference, but when i used my phone line & a modem before, when i was telneting & remotely administrating my server i would never experience the short laggs every now and then, its quite anoying, one would think a cable modem would be very fast & smooth, mine seems to be fast, yet jerky. Im wondering if this is common, or maybe i have something set up wrong (since i get no tech support for using Linux with the modem, ill run it by you guys). One thing to note is i am not using SuSE's DHCP thing. i thought i would have to, but when i set up the routing tables everything worked fine, without dhcp. in fact the one time i enable dhcp i couldnt get it working.=20 Am i supposed to be using dhcp? or is this setup normal? when i ping remote servers, sometimes there will be a large delay, like from an avg of 30 mioli seconds to one thats 160 mili seconds,, and a 30% packet loss. maybe thats normal, i dont know, like i said, ive only had this cable modem a month. Anyone have any experience with this problem? and if you need to know something about my setup ill post it upon request. Thanks for your time. - Nick -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7543246662091744194==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Sun Apr 4 11:25:07 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] [Off Topic] What is the Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 07:25:07 -0400 Message-ID: <37074C13.6C002802@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <99040412302300.00443@kamikazen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8327979558473067698==" --===============8327979558473067698== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maurizio Firmani wrote: >=20 > correct way to pronounce Apache? > How do they (the Apache indians) call themselves? The first and second "a" are slightly different, the "apa" sounds like " a pat" without the "t". the "che" sounds like "cheese" without the "se" try "apatchee" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8327979558473067698==-- From e.maryniak@pobox.com Sun Apr 4 11:36:28 1999 From: e.maryniak@pobox.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Best driver for HP DeskJet 600 in YaST? Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:36:28 +0200 Message-ID: <19990404133628.A13922@ip005.Library.KNAW.NL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6326512669787178178==" --===============6326512669787178178== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When configuring the printer with YaST for a HP DeskJet, only these models are listed: djet500 deskjet cdeskjet cdjmono cdjcolor cdj500 cdj550 djet500c dnj650c hp= dj Which one is best suited for the 600? The 600 has a best modus of 600x600dpi, a normal modus of 600x300dpi and _can_ print in color 300x300dpi. Thanx for any advise, kind regards, Eric Maryniak --=20 Eric Maryniak Home page: http://pobox.com/~e.maryniak/> Netherlands Institute for Scientific Information Services (NIWI) Tel/Fax: +31 20 4628650/6685079. Internet: http://www.niwi.knaw.nl/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6326512669787178178==-- From e.maryniak@pobox.com Sun Apr 4 12:18:19 1999 From: e.maryniak@pobox.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] 3com Fast EtherLink XL 10/100Mb TX Ethernet NIC (3C905B-TX) "Cyclone Series" supported in SuSE 6.0 or 6.1 Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 14:18:19 +0200 Message-ID: <19990404141818.A14561@ip005.Library.KNAW.NL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0148934170320203261==" --===============0148934170320203261== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is the new 3com card 3com Fast EtherLink XL 10/100Mb TX Ethernet NIC (3C905B-TX) ("Cyclone Series= ") upported in SuSE 6.0 (or will be in 6.1)? According to Donald Becker's page it should be in the standard driver (called "3Com 3c59x/3c90x" in YaST), but I wonder, because it's very new and SuSE's support database does not mention the Cyclone specifically, just the Boomerang and Vortex series. I'm preparing my PC at work for an installation to 6.1 and want to get my hardware inventory right :-) Thanx for any info and kind regards, Eric Maryniak --=20 Eric Maryniak Home page: http://pobox.com/~e.maryniak/> Netherlands Institute for Scientific Information Services (NIWI) Tel/Fax: +31 20 4628650/6685079. Internet: http://www.niwi.knaw.nl/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0148934170320203261==-- From nick@namodn.com Sun Apr 4 13:08:32 1999 From: nick@namodn.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:08:32 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3481752523101817829==" --===============3481752523101817829== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Greg Thomas wrote: > > HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them al= l. > > They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), lacking in = core > > functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), or can't even get = it > > to work at all (Most others). >=20 >=20 > Netscape is definitely crap but I don't understand what's so unusable > about Pine? I love it. =20 I use pine everyday myself. one thing i hate about in, though, is that iit has no build in filtering. i use procmail to filter email and that doesnt notify me of new mail, when its in something other than my inbox. Another thing about pine is that it doesnt support displaying attached images, like graphical email clients do. One fof the biggest drawbacks of pine, is the fact that i cant send as anyone but my primary email account. Im an admin on a server, i have nick(a)myserver.com and admin(a)myserver.com .. they both go to nick(a)myserver.com (admin is an alias). when i get mail to my admin account, i like to be able to send as admin, when getting mail to my nick account, i like to send as nick, as far as i know i cant do this with pine.=20 The best email client ive ever used, unfortunately, has been Outlook Express for MS Windows. If anyone knows of an email client similar to this for Linux, Xwindows, please let me know. And i believe if someone developed an email client with Outlooks full funcionality, it would be greatly appreciated in the linux community, even if it was commercial, i'd pay if it was like outlook. XFMail is an ok email client. (i can send as several dfifferent email aliases).. but its kinda cumbersome as well. - Nick : nick(a)namodn.com : www.namodn.com =20 > Greg >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3481752523101817829==-- From venrooij@casema.net Sun Apr 4 13:08:47 1999 From: venrooij@casema.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading KDE Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 15:08:47 +0200 Message-ID: <3707645F.EE2BFD4@casema.net> In-Reply-To: <003a01be7de0$0ca15ac0$c901a8c0@rw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5059017785372418076==" --===============5059017785372418076== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard Williamson wrote: >=20 > > > > It is easu, download all the files at SusE, they will be in RPM formats, > > than get out of KDE (very important step), than use YaSt, go to where you > > delete and install packages, you have the option to chose a directory, and > > point to the directory of the rpm's, select and install >=20 > I've just tried this, but when I start KDE I get the following error: >=20 > libstdc++.so.2.9: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory. > kbgndwn: error in loading shared library. =20 libstdc++.so.2.9 is the c++ shared library that can be found in the "gppshare" package. Just install it and you will be fine. Good luck, Tim. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5059017785372418076==-- From nick@namodn.com Sun Apr 4 13:11:54 1999 From: nick@namodn.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:11:54 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <55fda1ed48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4603693864857840478==" --===============4603693864857840478== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A GUI for pine would be great! xpine :) .. added to it, built in email filtering, multiple email account send/recieve capability. etc. i think that would be a very reqarding project, and greatly needed. - Nick : nick(a)namodn.com : www.namodn.com On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Rachel Greenham wrote: >=20 > In message <199904041622.JAA17908(a)mperry.basin.= com> > Michael Perry wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > On 4 Apr, Rachel Greenham wrote: > > >=20 > > > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. Th= is > > > is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliab= le > > > piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to > > > use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a > > > perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever > > > stopped using it. >=20 > You know what else I like about being back on my Acorn mailer? Decent > reformatting of quotes! :-) >=20 > > Agreed that Netscape is bad. Not agreed that there are no reliable or we= ll > > done email clients. I have used pine for a number of years and perhaps > > have gotten used to its interface. I really like the virtual folders > > feature and the level of customizability. >=20 > I'm well aware of PINE's feature set. In terms of functionality it's pretty > definitive, but its user interface *is* apalling and although I *could* get > used to it, I don't want to. :-) One thing I've thought of doing is to rip > into the PINE source code and abstract the functionality into an API (if it > isn't already, I haven't looked yet, but I guess not or people would be usi= ng > it) and use that to write a decent GUI-based email client. Major project > though, especially as I haven't done *any* X development yet. :-} All my > C/C++ GUI development experience is on Acorns. My current skillset would > point me more to doing a Java/DB style solution though it would have more > system dependencies (Java, Postgres or similar...) >=20 > --=20 > Rachel > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4603693864857840478==-- From paulsen@imailbox.com Sun Apr 4 13:19:12 1999 From: paulsen@imailbox.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: No Subject Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 08:19:12 -0500 Message-ID: <99040408194700.02541@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6810242111395702098==" --===============6810242111395702098== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I tried to restore from an Arkeia backup tape using readarkeia and got a bunch of errors. Here is my attempt to restore the directory /etc on my SuSE 6.0 Li= nux system ("home")... # readarkeia xvf /dev/st0 home:/etc Extracting data from tape 'Backup 1' created by root Read_block: Got end of segment '0' Read_block: Got end of segment '1' Read_block: Got end of segment '2' Read_block: Got end of segment '3' Read_block: Got end of segment '4' Read_block: Got end of segment '5' Read_block: Got end of segment '6' Read_block: Got end of segment '7' Read_block: Got end of segment '8' Read_block: Got end of segment '9' Read_block: Got end of segment '10' Read_block: Got end of segment '11' ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown Read_block: Got end of segment '12' Read_block: Got end of segment '13' Read_block: Got end of segment '14' ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown ERROR: (9: Bad file number) Unknown file type: unknown Read_block: Got end of segment '15' Read_block: Got end of segment '16' Read_block: Got end of segment '17' Read_block: Got end of segment '18' .. etc... The directory (/etc) was not restored. I know it's OK on the tape since I was able to restore it from the GUI. (During GUI install I saw that it was in segment 14 which does NOT appear to have any errors in the above output. ____________________________________________________________________ Robert Paulsen http://paulsen.home.texas.ne= t> paulsen(a)imailbox.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6810242111395702098==-- From paulsen@imailbox.com Sun Apr 4 13:20:05 1999 From: paulsen@imailbox.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] readarkeia.c truncated on backup tape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 08:20:05 -0500 Message-ID: <99040408204101.02541@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5244236526168511942==" --===============5244236526168511942== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I extracted the readarkeia.c source from the backup tape as described in section 12.2 of the User's manual but got a truncated copy. The readarkeia.c = in the directory /usr/knox/arkeia is 55229 bytes in size, but the file read from tape is only 53957 bytes. Examining the file shows that it has defnately been truncated. I am using the version of Arkeia that came wth SuSE Linux 6.0. My tape drive = is an Aiwa DT-20001. This is a Travan NS20 with hardware compression. ____________________________________________________________________ Robert Paulsen http://paulsen.home.texas.ne= t> paulsen(a)imailbox.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5244236526168511942==-- From lag@c2i.net Sun Apr 4 13:21:58 1999 From: lag@c2i.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading SuSE > 6.0 Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:21:58 +0000 Message-ID: <199904041121.NAA10530@golf.dax.net> In-Reply-To: <37068CAD.99C2840F@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9153634301074617923==" --===============9153634301074617923== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:48:29 -0600, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: So what's with the "new libc6 libs" ? Do we need them? Lars A Gronningsater --IMHO, 5.2 is an excellent distro. It's only drawback is that it is --based on the old libc5 libraries whereas 6.0 is based on the new libc6 --libraries. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9153634301074617923==-- From kepe@home.com Sun Apr 4 13:45:33 1999 From: kepe@home.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Failed 2.2.5 Upgrade Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 07:45:33 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99040319162900.00329@harry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3626129624738959126==" --===============3626129624738959126== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04-Apr-99 Harry Reinert wrote: >=20 > I am trying to upgrade to the 2.5.5 kernel that I downloaded from kernel.or= g. > All goes well through the 'make menuconfig' and 'make dep clean zImage' > stages. > There is one message that passes by fleetingly about a 'nbat' variable that > is not found, but it doesn't stop things. Harry, If my thinking is correct, doing a "make dep clean zImage" will just fly through the entire process, until it reaches the end. It will not be concerned with any errors. Using "make dep && make clean && make zImage" will work a little better. In essence, it says make dep, and if no errors, make clean, and so on. I would also include "make modules && make modules_install".=20 HTH, -- Danny Kephart E-Mail: kepe(a)home.com Date: 04-Apr-99 Time: 07:31:15 CST -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3626129624738959126==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 4 13:47:04 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading SuSE > 6.0 Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 08:47:04 -0500 Message-ID: <37076D58.32A0AB51@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <199904041121.NAA10530@golf.dax.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6801247649347335248==" --===============6801247649347335248== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you've got SuSE 6.0 you've got'm! JLK Lars A Gronningsater wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:48:29 -0600, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > So what's with the "new libc6 libs" ? > Do we need them? >=20 > Lars A Gronningsater >=20 > --IMHO, 5.2 is an excellent distro. It's only drawback is that it is > --based on the old libc5 libraries whereas 6.0 is based on the new libc6 > --libraries. >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --=20 Linux, because the cost is right... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6801247649347335248==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 4 13:56:09 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 08:56:09 -0500 Message-ID: <37076F79.A6D3E6CC@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3706CC9C.73B4F9E1@cistron.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6966849426138883119==" --===============6966849426138883119== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yatsen Ng wrote: >=20 > This is incredibly funny! I'm still laughing while I'm writing this. Damn, = how do > they come up with parts like "Linux nerd wears gasmask hastily fashioned fr= om a > garbage bag, work goggles, a pocket protector and using the insides of a n= utty > bar as a filter"? This is too much! >=20 Ten years ago, while I was usng Advanced Revelation as my tool of choice in my consulting business, AREV was developing a reputation for crashing because the new CEO was pushing "upgrades" out the door to meet deadlines that would give him bonuses, not because the version was ready. Developers began writing a chain story (we were on Compu$erve at the time). It started when one developer began writing a parody of a particular bug, in a melodramatic way, and concluded with "... and then ...". Another developer would extend the story and end with another "cliff hanger". After a month it was getting hallarious. One developer was incredibly gifted, to the point of awesome. I sent him an email asking how he learned to write so well and where did he come up his brilliant story lines. He said that he used to be an ad writer for a New York Ad Agency, but the hyprocisy turned him off and he jumped to programming. Moral: Programmers arn't always "just" gifted nerds. We have a range of talents and skills. --=20 Linux, because the cost is right... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6966849426138883119==-- From accmzckw@magix.com.sg Sun Apr 4 13:58:59 1999 From: accmzckw@magix.com.sg To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] network card problems Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:58:59 +0800 Message-ID: <37077023.7BF7F138@magix.com.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1605477451617677920==" --===============1605477451617677920== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I am just installing SUSE 6.0. However, I run into some troubles into getting my 3Com network card working.=20 I have got Asus P5A motherboard with audio on board. CPU is AMD K6-350. I have also got a AGP Asus TNT 3400 graphics card and a ATM network card for my ADSL connection. I have just bought a 3com 509B network card for my home intranet.=20 When I reboot after installing SUSE 6.0, there is an error message: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resources temporary unavailable The kernel message also indicates that the 3com network card has been set to IRQ 15 which is the IRQ for the second IDE controller. I guess this is the problem. I want to set IRQ of my network card to be 11. Can someone tell me how to do this. Thank you for the help! Regards, Anthony -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1605477451617677920==-- From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 4 15:06:25 1999 From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:06:25 +0100 Message-ID: <306487ed48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2048860631797657018==" --===============2048860631797657018== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever stopped using it. The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on Linux, Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself. HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them all. They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), lacking in core functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), or can't even get it to work at all (Most others). Yours, in utter fury: --=20 Rachel P.S. The sort of fury that probably starts new OSS projects, but I haven't got the time right now, there's things I'm trying to DO dammit! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2048860631797657018==-- From bparker@dc.net Sun Apr 4 15:45:08 1999 From: bparker@dc.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] 3com Fast EtherLink XL 10/100Mb TX Ethernet NIC (3C905B-TX) "Cyclone Series" supported in SuSE 6.0 or 6.1 Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 11:45:08 -0400 Message-ID: <000101be7eb2$1e36d120$0100a8c0@sandrab> In-Reply-To: <19990404141818.A14561@ip005.Library.KNAW.NL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7515925689739899786==" --===============7515925689739899786== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Eric: I suppose the newer SuSE versions will ship the newest 3c59x drivers but if not there may be problems. I am using a 3C905B "Cyclone" network adapter card in this installation but I did have problems with it. The card is considered "difficult" by some and I probably will not buy anymore of them. I am using a rather old SuSE version, version 5.2. It shipped with the 3c59x.c, version 0.49J, 2/7/98 driver. Loaded as a module, this driver would recognize the Cyclone card but the card could not see the LAN--It would not ping anything except itself and the loopback. The solution was to compile and install a newer driver, in this case, the 3c59x.c, version 0.99H, 11/17/98. It seems the B version of the 905 series is quite different from previous versions and the older driver could not initialize the card's network interface. After installation of the new driver, bingo!, the card connected to the network immediately. You are on the right track when looking at Donald Becker's webpage. You can get the newest driver from there. Make sure you download the driver source using FTP and not a browser. Regards, Bill Parker, The HURD is a free GNU operating system. 'Hurd' stands for `Hird of Unix-Replacing Daemons'. And, then, `Hird' stands for `Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth'. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of Eric Maryniak > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 1999 8:18 AM > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: [SuSE Linux] 3com Fast EtherLink XL 10/100Mb TX Ethernet NIC > (3C905B-TX) "Cyclone Series" supported in SuSE 6.0 or 6.1 > > > > Is the new 3com card > > 3com Fast EtherLink XL 10/100Mb TX Ethernet NIC (3C905B-TX) > ("Cyclone Series") > > supported in SuSE 6.0 (or will be in 6.1)? > According to Donald Becker's page it should be in the standard > driver (called > "3Com 3c59x/3c90x" in YaST), but I wonder, because it's very new > and SuSE's > support database does not mention the Cyclone specifically, just > the Boomerang > and Vortex series. > I'm preparing my PC at work for an installation to 6.1 and want to get my > hardware inventory right :-) > Thanx for any info and kind regards, Eric Maryniak > -- > Eric Maryniak > Home page: http://pobox.com/~e.maryniak/> > Netherlands Institute for Scientific Information Services (NIWI) > Tel/Fax: +31 20 4628650/6685079. Internet: http://www.niwi.knaw.nl/> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7515925689739899786==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 4 16:22:21 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 09:22:21 -0700 Message-ID: <199904041622.JAA17908@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: <306487ed48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3913397061242503408==" --===============3913397061242503408== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 4 Apr, Rachel Greenham wrote: >=20 > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This is > 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable piece > of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook > out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a perfectly good email > client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever stopped using it. >=20 > The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on Linux, > Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself. >=20 > HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them all. > They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), lacking in co= re > functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), or can't even get it > to work at all (Most others). >=20 > Yours, in utter fury: >=20 Agreed that Netscape is bad. Not agreed that there are no reliable or well done email clients. I have used pine for a number of years and perhaps have gotten used to its interface. I really like the virtual folders feature and the level of customizability. Unfortunately, my choice of email client, tkrat, has problems that can be easily fixed though. Tkrat offers a great feature set with a lot of nice functionality thrown in like a message database, virtual folders, etc.=20 I also like ishmail which is commercial. Perhaps my favorite console reader though is mutt. With one .muttrc file one can pretty much affect all of mutt's default behaviors. Of course if you want a gui client... Mutt can be run in a console :) I do understand the fury though. Netscape will not launch mailto's for me whatsoever. I probably will go back to the 3.04 release which has always been stable here. It does the stuff too like java, frames, tables, etc. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3913397061242503408==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Apr 4 16:40:38 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 18:40:38 +0200 Message-ID: <37079606.F0F7A0D9@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <306487ed48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6561106879565956153==" --===============6561106879565956153== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rachel Greenham wrote: >=20 > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This is > 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable piece > of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook > out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a perfectly good email > client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever stopped using it. >=20 > The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on Linux, > Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself. >=20 Poor Soul, ;-) there must be something badly wrong. Although some people claim instability problems on netscape, I havn=C5=BDt had any problems with it for a long time. Nothing wrong with 6.0=C5=BDs 4.5 version here. > HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them all. > They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), lacking in co= re > functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), or can't even get it > to work at all (Most others). >=20 I can agree to that, I like netscapes ability to sort threads, it looks better. Tried tkrat, xfmail(?) and a few more, but always returned to netscape. > Yours, in utter fury: >=20 > -- > Rachel >=20 > P.S. The sort of fury that probably starts new OSS projects, but I haven't > got the time right now, there's things I'm trying to DO dammit! I havn=C5=BDt the skill ;-( Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6561106879565956153==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sun Apr 4 16:46:44 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 17:46:44 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <306487ed48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3145939764245269736==" --===============3145939764245269736== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04-Apr-99 Rachel Greenham wrote: >=20 > HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them > all. They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), > lacking in core functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), > or can't even get it to work at all (Most others). >=20 > Yours, in utter fury: >=20 > --=20 > Rachel >=20 > P.S. The sort of fury that probably starts new OSS projects, but I > haven't got the time right now, there's things I'm trying to DO dammit! Hi Rachel, Your frustration understood -- nothing worse when nothing works! But have you tried XFMail? I've had irritations with some versions, but most work pretty smoothly, and have LOTS of functionality. If you need a pointer or two, get in touch. Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 04-Apr-99 Time: 17:46:44 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3145939764245269736==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sun Apr 4 16:52:42 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Failed 2.2.5 Upgrade Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 18:52:42 +0200 Message-ID: <370798DA.FE72C826@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2432340119426916649==" --===============2432340119426916649== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Danny Kephart wrote: > > There is one message that passes by fleetingly about a 'nbat' variable th= at > > is not found, but it doesn't stop things. This is merely a (compiler) warning not a datal error, so things go on. >=20 > Harry, > If my thinking is correct, doing a "make dep clean zImage" will just fly > through the entire process, until it reaches the end. It will not be > concerned with any errors. > Using "make dep && make clean && make zImage" will work a little better. > In essence, it says make dep, and if no errors, make clean, and so on. > I would also include "make modules && make modules_install". if e.g. make dep aborts with a fatal error at some point, then make dep clean zImage will also abort at exactly the same point. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2432340119426916649==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sun Apr 4 17:18:51 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] color and xemacs Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:18:51 -0400 Message-ID: <37079EFB.62197B0A@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8423698765176051350==" --===============8423698765176051350== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found an option in xemacs: Options | Printing options | Enable color printing. When I select this option my xemacs editor's background changes from gray to white. It still prints in black though. Does anybody know how to get it to print in color? It is much easier to read code that has color syntax highlighting. TIA, Steve -- http:/= /www.winehq.com> | I think. http://www= .suse.com> | I think I am. http://www.k= de.org> | Therefore I am. ht= tp://samba.anu.edu.au> | I think? - Moody Blues -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8423698765176051350==-- From francis.j.bruening@bigfoot.com Sun Apr 4 17:21:09 1999 From: francis.j.bruening@bigfoot.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RESOLVED: [SuSE Linux] Help with SuSE 6.0 & DCHP support of @Home cable service Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 10:21:09 -0700 Message-ID: <000101be7ebf$88430720$1c370018@Bruening.potlnd1.or.home.com> In-Reply-To: <000101be7d93$8ec39740$1c370018@Bruening.potlnd1.or.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1575407921029478811==" --===============1575407921029478811== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, Thanks for the numerous suggestions and ideas to get this resolved. Kudo's to Nick Zentena for pointing me to the right place. 1) YaST -> network setup -> use DHCP 2) Backup /sbin/dhclient.conf 3) Edit /sbin/dhclient.conf and add the following line - send host-name "cNNNNNN-a" 4) run /sbin/dhclient And all runs perfectly! Hey, that was easy. Francis -----Original Message----- From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com] On Behalf Of Francis J. Bruening Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 9:34 PM To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: [SuSE Linux] Help with SuSE 6.0 & DCHP support of @Home cable service Greetings, I'm fairly new to Linux, having installed 6.0 a few days ago. I'm trying to get DCHP working on my @home cable modem. I believe I have eth0 configured correctly, but DCHPD times out and doesn't find a valid IP address Because @Home DCHP service requires a "hostname". I tried the "-h" flag, but dhcpd doesn't See that as a valid flag? What do I need to do to get this going? Thanks in advance. Francis J. Bruening Francis.j.bruening(a)bigfoot.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1575407921029478811==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 4 17:32:26 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] spring forward :) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 10:32:26 -0700 Message-ID: <199904041732.KAA18068@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3061411769070301391==" --===============3061411769070301391== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So it works!!! I was sprung forward and I am a happy camper. I just feel like saying sometimes how ultimately cool linux is and how it does things. One rather nice piece of functionality I was missing was the ability to synch my velo hpc (windowsce) to my desktop. I have a palm which does it nicely with kpilot and korganizer but my velo remained stand alone until vmware. Now it is possible for me to have my velo running and synching on my guest win98 machine. That makes things much more usable for me since I have stored stuff in the velo for some months without the ability to back them up. In case you are wondering, vmware does indeed support serial port communications as well as full networking. It also offers host-only networking which means a vpn of sorts between the host and guest machine. I prefer the full network version on our linux network. It gets a dhcp address and off it goes. Glad I got the dell inspiron 7000 with 128mb of memory and 366mhz Pentium II processor now!! :) Vmware runs flawlessly on my laptop. Take care and hope you all sprung forward too :) --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3061411769070301391==-- From Herve.Lestienne@wanadoo.fr Sun Apr 4 17:35:36 1999 From: Herve.Lestienne@wanadoo.fr To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: No Subject Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:35:36 +0200 Message-ID: <003e01be7ec1$a518b3c0$95bc8aa4@herv-> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9214090901232961065==" --===============9214090901232961065== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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--===============9214090901232961065==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Sun Apr 4 18:30:00 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:30:00 +0100 Message-ID: <199904041830.TAA27919@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5826650539604534645==" --===============5826650539604534645== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rachel >It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This >is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable >piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to >use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a >perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever >stopped using it. =20 > I'm sorry to hear about your own problems just now. I've worked with Windows and Macs for years. It's very hard when you start with a new OS and or computer. Things do go wrong. >The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on =20 >Linux, Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself. > >HEY!=20 LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried >them=20 all. They have at least one of: An unusable user interface >(Pine),=20 lacking in core functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable=20 >(Netscape), or can't even get it to work at all (Most others). > =20 I've got one going at the moment where Kmail works fine until I=20 install XF Mail. Then Kmail stops working and XF Mail won't do=20 anything either. Any help from Ted Harding would be appreciated with=20 this one. I thought about sending a bug report to Gennady about it. =20 There would have been a time when going back to MS Windows would have been a good option for me. However, I've worked in internet tech support and that put me off windows quite a bit. All those people threatening me over the phone because their machines didn't work put me off it. The OS invites death threats and=20 violence. =20 At least with linux I get to meet nice people who have a different=20 view of the world ? One of my other problems is the growing pile of=20 scrap which has been generated by the testing of new windows=20 software. Broken boards, HDs etc are not something that I welcome. =20 I hope that you can get things to work for you eventually :-) Richard Sheffield UK Home of the Trans-European rain cloud -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at
<= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5826650539604534645==-- From gregt@nadel.com Sun Apr 4 18:40:31 1999 From: gregt@nadel.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 11:40:31 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <306487ed48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6415543293183639071==" --===============6415543293183639071== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This is > 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable piece > of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook > out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a perfectly good email > client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever stopped using it. >=20 > The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on Linux, > Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself. >=20 > HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them all. > They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), lacking in co= re > functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), or can't even get it > to work at all (Most others). Netscape is definitely crap but I don't understand what's so unusable about Pine? I love it. =20 Greg -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6415543293183639071==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sun Apr 4 18:56:51 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Error recompiling patched kernel Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:56:51 +0200 Message-ID: <3707B5F3.61814C68@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Error recompiling patched kernel> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7848815836265176949==" --===============7848815836265176949== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Merritt wrote: > > Apply the attached patch or get the 2.2.5-patch, which fixes this too. > > If you apply the attached patch, you must revert it if you later want > > to apply 2.2.5-patch. > > > > Henning >=20 > FWIW, I had to apply this same patch to 2.2.5. Maybe I should have > removed it from the 2.2.4 tree before patching to 2.2.5? =20 Yes, should have (Imentioned in my message). This is done by invoking the patch utility again with the -R parameter.=20 > Will that be > neccessary in the future? If you kernel sources are correct now, no. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7848815836265176949==-- From dan_tudor@home.ro Sun Apr 4 19:34:00 1999 From: dan_tudor@home.ro To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:34:00 +0300 Message-ID: <99040422500900.00254@Darkside> In-Reply-To: <306487ed48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6526734480462688518==" --===============6526734480462688518== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rachel. I certainly do understand you. I'm quite a newcomer in Linux world after many years spent under Windows (from 3.1 to 95, NT, 2000 beta2).=20 Yes, I disliked the graphical gadgets, but I got found of the comfort a GUI provides. And, besides, no matter how VERY tempting a soft like mutt I believe (which uses the file system to deposit the mails) it is, I REALLY want to be able to receive and send HTML formatted mails. I haven't had any problems yet with Netscape under Linux (but thousands under Windows), but I hate it because the fonts are horrible. I like KMail, like all KDE applications (KDE being the first graphical interface I love more than Windows's), but I agree it lacks fundamental features: - HTML support (not damn attachments which, when you open them you see them as plain text too) - a basic UNDO feature when editing (I've ruined a lot of messages) - a spelling checker (not being a native english speaker, it is vital almost for me) - stability problems corrections (the application suddenly exits, then the address book which removes some of the entries...) But let's give a chance to the guys from KDE (after all it won the CeBIT prize for best software innovation of 98/99 I believe) - I think it's really a Windows killer... Since I haven't had problems with Netscape (using SuSE 6.0 and the Netscape included in the CD's, why don't you try to reinstall it?) - just a thought, probably a reminiscence from my previous Windows experience, when the first thing to be done was to reinstall everything :) Let's have patience since there are strong signs that Linux is to become much more comfortable to use than it is in the present days. Wish you luck, Dan On Sun, 04 Apr 1999, Rachel Greenham wrote: >It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This is >4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable piece >of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook >out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a perfectly good email >client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever stopped using it. > >The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on Linux, >Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself. >HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them all. >They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), lacking in core >functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), or can't even get it >to work at all (Most others). > >Yours, in utter fury: > >--=20 >Rachel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6526734480462688518==-- From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sun Apr 4 19:47:57 1999 From: dwj@linuxtoday.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 12:47:57 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37079606.F0F7A0D9@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5531055932319884820==" --===============5531055932319884820== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Rachel Greenham wrote: > >=20 > > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an > > email. This is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably > > the least reliable piece of "production" software I have ever > > used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook out of spite, but it > > really would be spite as I have a perfectly good email client here > > on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever stopped using it. Netscape is indeed full of bugs and it is the only application that ever crashes X on my SuSE 5.2 based workstation. I usually find it advisable to just kill Netscape every few days and restart it fresh. Even with this precaution, however, it is important to just stay away from the most serious Netscape problems. One of these is trying to use a browser window previously opened in one virtual screen in a different virtual screen. If you use Netscape for several different tasks at once, this seems like a plausible way to keep your work better organized. Stay away from it! A much better way to go is to open a fresh copy of Netscape in the new virtual screen and say 'OK' when the dialog box opens informing you that you will not be able to write update to disk because there is another Netscape open. This is a reasonably stable way to go and it is pretty easy to work around the limitation of not being able to update your bookmarks, etc. in this iteration of Netscape. Netscape truly evolved into a piece of buggy bloatware in its race with MSIE. Netscape 5.0, the first open source mozilla release, should be a big improvement. They have removed the Java VM and written the basic engine, Ginko, from scratch. It will be released sometime this year and is worth waiting for. Also, Opera for Linux is being developed by Troll Tech. It will cost money, but for people who live on a browser, it will probably be well worth it. There needs to be a browser for professionals who know what they are doing. Both Netscape Communicator and MSIE are written for people who are seeing a browser for the first time. Dwight -- http:/= /linuxtoday.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5531055932319884820==-- From marcelbr@zap.a2000.nl Sun Apr 4 19:50:49 1999 From: marcelbr@zap.a2000.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:50:49 +0200 Message-ID: <99040422090700.03240@susebox> In-Reply-To: <199904041830.TAA27919@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1265728294153959173==" --===============1265728294153959173== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 04 Apr 1999, Richard Ibbotson wrote: > Rachel >=20 > >It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This > >is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable > >piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to > >use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a > >perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever > >stopped using it. =20 > > >=20 > I'm sorry to hear about your own problems just now. I've > worked with Windows and Macs for years. It's very hard when you > start with a new OS and or computer. Things do go wrong. >=20 > >The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on =20 > >Linux, Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself. > >HEY!=20 > LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried >them=20 > all. They have at least one of: An unusable user interface >(Pine),=20 > lacking in core functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable=20 > >(Netscape), or can't even get it to work at all (Most others). > =20 >=20 >=20 > I've got one going at the moment where Kmail works fine until I=20 > install XF Mail. Then Kmail stops working and XF Mail won't do=20 > anything either. Any help from Ted Harding would be appreciated with=20 > this one. I thought about sending a bug report to Gennady about it. =20 >=20 > There would have been a time when going back to MS Windows > would have been a good option for me. However, I've worked in > internet tech support and that put me off windows quite a bit. All > those people threatening me over the phone because their machines > didn't work put me off it. The OS invites death threats and=20 > violence. =20 >=20 > At least with linux I get to meet nice people who have a different=20 > view of the world ? One of my other problems is the growing pile of=20 > scrap which has been generated by the testing of new windows=20 > software. Broken boards, HDs etc are not something that I welcome. =20 >=20 > I hope that you can get things to work for you eventually :-) >=20 >=20 >=20 > Richard > Sheffield UK > Home of the > Trans-European > rain cloud >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Hi Richard, Kmail stores its messages in files that have the same names as the directories of the mailboxes of XFmail. If you want Kmail & XFmail to peacefully coexist you have to create a subdirectory for XFmail in your /home/username/Mail directory: something like /home/username/Mail/xfmail. Next configure XFmail to place its mailboxes in this directory. To get Kmail working again: delete all files & directories (accept the newly created xfmail dir) and fire up Kmail. Hope this helps. Marcel. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1265728294153959173==-- From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 4 19:56:56 1999 From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:56:56 +0100 Message-ID: <55fda1ed48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199904041622.JAA17908@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5363011331427778226==" --===============5363011331427778226== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In message <199904041622.JAA17908(a)mperry.basin.co= m> Michael Perry wrote: >=20 > On 4 Apr, Rachel Greenham wrote: > >=20 > > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This > > is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable > > piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to > > use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a > > perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever > > stopped using it. You know what else I like about being back on my Acorn mailer? Decent reformatting of quotes! :-) > Agreed that Netscape is bad. Not agreed that there are no reliable or well > done email clients. I have used pine for a number of years and perhaps > have gotten used to its interface. I really like the virtual folders > feature and the level of customizability. I'm well aware of PINE's feature set. In terms of functionality it's pretty definitive, but its user interface *is* apalling and although I *could* get used to it, I don't want to. :-) One thing I've thought of doing is to rip into the PINE source code and abstract the functionality into an API (if it isn't already, I haven't looked yet, but I guess not or people would be using it) and use that to write a decent GUI-based email client. Major project though, especially as I haven't done *any* X development yet. :-} All my C/C++ GUI development experience is on Acorns. My current skillset would point me more to doing a Java/DB style solution though it would have more system dependencies (Java, Postgres or similar...) --=20 Rachel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5363011331427778226==-- From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 4 20:00:47 1999 From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:00:47 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37079606.F0F7A0D9@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4232340817362501586==" --===============4232340817362501586== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In message <37079606.F0F7A0D9(a)cityweb.de> Juergen Braukmann wrote: > >=20 > > P.S. The sort of fury that probably starts new OSS projects, but I > > haven't got the time right now, there's things I'm trying to DO dammit! >=20 > I havn=C5=BDt the skill ;-( I have the core programming skills, what's more doubtful is whether I have the time and energy to do that and my paid work, and also the task of transferring my current GUI programming experience (Acorn/RISC OS) to X - probably via KDE or GTK though I might go for a Java solution. --=20 Rachel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4232340817362501586==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sun Apr 4 20:14:44 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Re: To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:14:44 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904041830.TAA27919@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9103468389464293956==" --===============9103468389464293956== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04-Apr-99 Richard Ibbotson wrote: >=20 > I've got one going at the moment where Kmail works fine until I=20 > install XF Mail. Then Kmail stops working and XF Mail won't do=20 > anything either. Any help from Ted Harding would be appreciated with=20 > this one. I thought about sending a bug report to Gennady about it. I wouldn't try contacting Gennady -- From what I read between the lines when the xfmail list was active, Gennady worked like a madman on XFMail until he was about to finish his PhD, then went quiet, and hasn't been heard from since (and if anyone else has some news from that front I'd be most grateful to hear). XFMail: I'd say the following to anyone intending to start XFMail: 1. If you're using UNIX-style mailfolders (i.e. all messages in one big file, inbox =3D /var/spool/mail/userid or the like, stored mail in similar folders under maybe ~/Mail), then a) make a backup copy of your inbox; b) ditto for your home Mail folder directory (or, better, "mv" it to a backup name); 2. Then, and only then, start up XFMail. It will "explode" your inbox and distribute the messages as individual files in an "MH"-style layout under ~/Mail (which it will create if necessary), the stuff from inbox going into ~/Mail/inbox/* (you can recreate "elm" style - UNIX - mailboxes from within XFMail if you want to). Once that is done, XFMail should operate straightforwardly. It operates a fairly sophisticated indexing/caching system, and stores a lot of relevant information in ~/Mail/.ftemp, ~/Mail/.mbox, and in several files under ~/.xfmail/.*; and other folders (default folders and any you create are DIRECTORIES used for storing mail messages as separate files; all of which it will create first time round. So you don't want anything there already which might interfere with this, or might get interfered with by it. Independent documentation is very sparse. However, the builtin "Help" is adequate, though at times a bit obscure or confusing. One problem with XFMail: many operations require a double-click. The Qt libraries used in XFMail seem to have trouble detecting or reacting properly to double clicks, and you may have to practice your physical mouse technique to get the timing right! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kmail, on the other hand, pulls down your UNIX /var/spool/mail/userid and stores it as a UNIX-type mail folder in the FILE ~/Mail/inbox. Hence, the ways that Kmail and XFMail handle mail are incompatible (which probaboy explains, Richard, why you had problems each way). Hope this helps any who are interested! Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 04-Apr-99 Time: 21:14:44 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9103468389464293956==-- From marcelbr@zap.a2000.nl Sun Apr 4 20:14:51 1999 From: marcelbr@zap.a2000.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:14:51 +0200 Message-ID: <99040422171401.03240@susebox> In-Reply-To: <99040422090700.03240@susebox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1689721567967555673==" --===============1689721567967555673== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 04 Apr 1999, Marcel Broekman wrote: > On Sun, 04 Apr 1999, Richard Ibbotson wrote: > > Rachel > >=20 > > >It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This > > >is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable > > >piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to > > >use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a > > >perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever > > >stopped using it. =20 > > > > >=20 > > I'm sorry to hear about your own problems just now. I've > > worked with Windows and Macs for years. It's very hard when you > > start with a new OS and or computer. Things do go wrong. > >=20 > > >The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on =20 > > >Linux, Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself. > >HEY!=20 > > LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried >them=20 > > all. They have at least one of: An unusable user interface >(Pine),=20 > > lacking in core functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable=20 > > >(Netscape), or can't even get it to work at all (Most others). > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > > I've got one going at the moment where Kmail works fine until I=20 > > install XF Mail. Then Kmail stops working and XF Mail won't do=20 > > anything either. Any help from Ted Harding would be appreciated with=20 > > this one. I thought about sending a bug report to Gennady about it. =20 > >=20 > > There would have been a time when going back to MS Windows > > would have been a good option for me. However, I've worked in > > internet tech support and that put me off windows quite a bit. All > > those people threatening me over the phone because their machines > > didn't work put me off it. The OS invites death threats and=20 > > violence. =20 > >=20 > > At least with linux I get to meet nice people who have a different=20 > > view of the world ? One of my other problems is the growing pile of=20 > > scrap which has been generated by the testing of new windows=20 > > software. Broken boards, HDs etc are not something that I welcome. =20 > >=20 > > I hope that you can get things to work for you eventually :-) > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Richard > > Sheffield UK > > Home of the > > Trans-European > > rain cloud > >=20 > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/S= upport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 > Hi Richard, >=20 > Kmail stores its messages in files that have the same names as the > directories of the mailboxes of XFmail. If you want Kmail & XFmail to > peacefully coexist you have to create a subdirectory for XFmail in your > /home/username/Mail directory: something like > /home/username/Mail/xfmail. Next configure XFmail to place its > mailboxes in this directory. To get Kmail working again: delete all > files & directories=20 IN YOUR /home/username/Mail directory that is. (sorry) (accept the newly created xfmail dir) and fire up > Kmail. > > Hope this helps. >=20 > Marcel. > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1689721567967555673==-- From francis.j.bruening@bigfoot.com Sun Apr 4 20:16:25 1999 From: francis.j.bruening@bigfoot.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Install KDE 1.1 on suse 6.0 system Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:16:25 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be7ed8$0413e140$1c370018@Bruening.potlnd1.or.home.com> In-Reply-To: <000101be7d93$8ec39740$1c370018@Bruening.potlnd1.or.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8404253310207350028==" --===============8404253310207350028== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm trying to update to KDE 1.1, and have been reading lots of mail archives, FAQ's, etc, and am still not sure what the right way to proceed is. I'm looking for a complete KDE1.1 "package" which will fit into a suse6.0 distribution. There are a host of files on ftp.suse.com, but no real guidance which says "install the files in this directory".. So, a bit more hunting, and I've found ftp://ftp.linuxberg.com/pub/KDE/stable/1.1/distrib= ution/rpm/SuSE-6.0/binary/> Which has about 18 packages or so. My question: is this the right way to install the new version of KDE 1.1? Are there some guidelines I'm missing? Thanks in advance. Regards, Francis J. Bruening Linux newbie -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8404253310207350028==-- From ljackson@techlinks.com Sun Apr 4 20:30:44 1999 From: ljackson@techlinks.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] rc.config's MSQ_DEV Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:30:44 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6701627257300719931==" --===============6701627257300719931== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello: I have two network cards in a machine where eth0 is connected to my ADSL line and eth1 is connected to my internal network. I was wondering what the rc.config variable MSQ_DEV is used for? It is presently set to 'eth0'. Is this an incorrect or unused variable? I ask the question because I manually enter: /sbin/ipfwadm -F -p masquerade ..in my /sbin/boot.local file. I was wondering if the MSQ_DEV variable or any combination of the MSQ_XXX variables could have configured what I do manually in teh /sbin/boot.local file. ---------------- I struggle between the difference between IP masquerading/firewalling/forwarding. In my setup, all my Win95 clients on my internal network have IPs of 192.168.1.x. We all access the internet via the Linux SuSE 6.0 server/gateway on eth0. Am I masquerading, firwalling, or forwarding? Is there an easy take away that describes the=20 difference amonst the three? Thanks all. I'm a newbie having everything working but just want to understand so I can assist others. Thanks again Lester. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6701627257300719931==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 4 20:32:06 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:32:06 -0700 Message-ID: <199904042032.NAA18621@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: <55fda1ed48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7591689618902483873==" --===============7591689618902483873== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 4 Apr, Rachel Greenham wrote: >=20 > In message <199904041622.JAA17908(a)mperry.basin.= com> > Michael Perry wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> On 4 Apr, Rachel Greenham wrote: >> >=20 >> > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This >> > is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable >> > piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to >> > use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a >> > perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever >> > stopped using it. >=20 > You know what else I like about being back on my Acorn mailer? Decent > reformatting of quotes! :-) >=20 >> Agreed that Netscape is bad. Not agreed that there are no reliable or well >> done email clients. I have used pine for a number of years and perhaps >> have gotten used to its interface. I really like the virtual folders >> feature and the level of customizability. >=20 > I'm well aware of PINE's feature set. In terms of functionality it's pretty > definitive, but its user interface *is* apalling and although I *could* get > used to it, I don't want to. :-) One thing I've thought of doing is to rip > into the PINE source code and abstract the functionality into an API (if it > isn't already, I haven't looked yet, but I guess not or people would be usi= ng > it) and use that to write a decent GUI-based email client. Major project > though, especially as I haven't done *any* X development yet. :-} All my > C/C++ GUI development experience is on Acorns. My current skillset would > point me more to doing a Java/DB style solution though it would have more > system dependencies (Java, Postgres or similar...) >=20 Well, the pine interface is not what I would consider apalling but thats for another place and time :). I still believe that we probably do not have truly robust email client on the order of something like pegasus mail; but I really never liked pegasus mail either. I truly like a little win32 emailer called The_Bat which offers some great customizability. For my console needs, mutt seems to do okay and in fact more than okay. Still, tkrat offers me the group of features that I want in an email client overall. Pressed to it, I could name feature sets or UI enhancements for almost any product. Tkrat is no exception. Perhaps thats why postillion was done. I have never used postillion but understand it is quite nifty. I tried compiling it and it has some tcl/tk issues under suse 6. I dont know about acorns though so cannot comment on that. Another one on the drawing board is simply called "M". Its featured on the gnome website in their software map. I have tried balsa but had some problems with its interface and fonts. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7591689618902483873==-- From dan_tudor@home.ro Sun Apr 4 20:32:28 1999 From: dan_tudor@home.ro To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] HDD question Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 23:32:28 +0300 Message-ID: <99040423353000.00382@Darkside> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5345545862162597938==" --===============5345545862162597938== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a question concerning the hard drive activity under Linux. I happen to leave my computer staying idle for few hours and when I get back = to it I found that my HDD is spinning furiously even though no aplication is running and none is using the computer... I wonder if it is normal... I mean = is it periodically checking the file system or something?? Thank you for any light you can bring me. Dan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5345545862162597938==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Sun Apr 4 20:49:42 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:49:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3707D066.85DAC442@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <306487ed48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4526602483249586995==" --===============4526602483249586995== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rachel Greenham wrote: >=20 > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This is > 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable piece > of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook I must stick up for the 4.5 version of Netscape that ships with SUSE6. It is way better than the libc5 versions. The email function works good for me. The unsupported netscape451_glibc version works well also. The only bug that I've noticed is that when you open mail, it sometimes checks for new emails without being told to do so, and it locks up the menus while it does this. It is annoying, but workable. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4526602483249586995==-- From deem@wdm.com Sun Apr 4 20:54:19 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 12:54:19 -0800 Message-ID: <199904042054.MAA07975@wdm.com> In-Reply-To: <99040422500900.00254@Darkside> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6821402722234158557==" --===============6821402722234158557== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After reading this thread, I am again convinced tha Xi Graphics has made an excellent display manager to ride on top of XF86 libs. This makes Communicator work very nice, as colors and fonts are not an issue as the same way they are under XF86 alone. It must be that Ishmail works better as resources are avilable also, and thus I am not looking further. Just a thought, spend a buck, get a real accelerated manager, and=20 wala......a ripping nice display. Of course, I'm spoiled rotten, with my G200, Viewsonic monitor and Accelerated-X :) -Dee W.D.McKinney (Dee) deem(a)wdm.com Vision & Passion are keys to success. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6821402722234158557==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Sun Apr 4 20:55:19 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] HDD question Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:55:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3707D1B7.CE94ACE8@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <99040423353000.00382@Darkside> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1117778536646188749==" --===============1117778536646188749== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan Tudor wrote: >=20 > I have a question concerning the hard drive activity under Linux. > I happen to leave my computer staying idle for few hours and when I get bac= k to > it I found that my HDD is spinning furiously even though no aplication is > running and none is using the computer... I wonder if it is normal... I mea= n is > it periodically checking the file system or something?? > Thank you for any light you can bring me. I would find that highly suspicious on a workstation. Do a "top" and see what is running. You can go into yast and disable cron, atd, inetd, etc. Then there should be no hard drive clicking what-so-ever. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1117778536646188749==-- From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sun Apr 4 21:31:25 1999 From: dwj@linuxtoday.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 14:31:25 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <55fda1ed48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2103862486723225250==" --===============2103862486723225250== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Rachel Greenham wrote: >=20 > In message <199904041622.JAA17908(a)mperry.basin.= com> > Michael Perry wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > On 4 Apr, Rachel Greenham wrote: > > >=20 > > > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. Th= is > > > is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliab= le > > > piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to > > > use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a > > > perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever > > > stopped using it. >=20 > You know what else I like about being back on my Acorn mailer? Decent > reformatting of quotes! :-) =20 I get decent reformatting of quotes, in fact perfect and complete control of the way the text looks, by using VIM as an alternate editor in Pine. To reformat a paragraph is just 'gq}' and there are related commands to reformat both larger and smaller blocks of text. > I'm well aware of PINE's feature set. In terms of functionality it's pretty > definitive, but its user interface *is* apalling and although I *could* get > used to it, I don't want to. :-)=20 I have used Pine for all of the three years it has been since I came across to Linux from DOS/Windows and, to my taste, the user interface is quite good. I have tried quite a few other mailers but have found nothing I like nearly as well. I vastly prefer a key command interface to one based on clicking the mouse -- it is so much faster and I prefer to work fast and be as productive as possible. In fact, one of my main reasons for coming over to Linux from DOS/Windows was to get back to the vastly greater productivity of the command line and text-based programs. I do use X, but except for my browser, X is primarily a platform for mounting as many xterms as I may require to use VIM and other text-based tools. Dwight -- http:/= /linuxtoday.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2103862486723225250==-- From norrisd@gti.net Sun Apr 4 21:39:17 1999 From: norrisd@gti.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] kernel modules loading Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:39:17 -0500 Message-ID: <199904042039.QAA25771@gti.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3675672683704344160==" --===============3675672683704344160== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 Recently, I upgraded from v2.0.36 kernel to the 2.2.5 kernel. I check= ed the prerequisites regarding libraries, bin utilities, linker, etc. all seemed OK. I grabbed the 2.2.5 tar.gz package and followed the install instructi= ons. I had to do three attempts to get PPP support; dispite choosing " y " when the option a= ppeared in the config menu sequence, before PPP support showed up in my 'messages'. Each time I have attempted to get sound card support and have not yet= gotten there. I have looked at the HOWTO's and I found documentation in the kernel = sources .../Documentation/ sound/, which told me to put=20 ' alias sound sb options sb io=3D0x220 irq=3D5 dma=3D1=20 and so forth,=20 but I thought configuring the modules in the kernel config took care = of this /etc/modules.conf ? Am I wrong? Are the configuration scripts working properly? Dick Norris -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3675672683704344160==-- From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Sun Apr 4 21:40:18 1999 From: jboonen@Worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] RE: To hell with netscape (Email programs) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 23:40:18 +0200 Message-ID: <199904042140.OAA02331@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8931582140320855048==" --===============8931582140320855048== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Rachel, I have included a link for email clients and other email programs. I don't=20 know if you're aware of www.linuxberg.com. But you're able to get a lot of=20 free software there. It also shows a rating in the form of pinguins. This is = the link: http://alpha1.L= inuxberg.com/x11html/net_email.html> . By the way i'm also using Netscape both for email and browsing. That is at=20 work. I'm right now on my parents computer. I'm sending this email via an=20 email enabled website. I have the following experiances with Netscape. It=20 handeles low memory quite badly. It might be best to check via df you're lest= =20 over disc space. Would it be possible to sent information about disc ussage=20 and about the hardware configuration of your computer? I hope i can help you in that way. The main reason why i choose for Netscape = is the large number of spelling checkers. I use the English, Dutch and German= =20 spel checker. If people are interrested in it without downloading all of=20 Netscape let me know. I will try to post them somewhere. Regards, Joop Boonen. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8931582140320855048==-- From phil@stokes.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 4 22:43:38 1999 From: phil@stokes.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 23:43:38 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2419462908028409720==" --===============2419462908028409720== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Nick wrote: >=20 > I use pine everyday myself. one thing i hate about in, though, is > that iit has no build in filtering. i use procmail to filter email and > that doesnt notify me of new mail, when its in something other than my > inbox. Another thing about pine is that it doesnt support displaying > attached images, like graphical email clients do. One fof the biggest > drawbacks of pine, is the fact that i cant send as anyone but my primary > email account. Im an admin on a server, i have nick(a)myserver.com and > admin(a)myserver.com .. they both go to nick(a)myserver.com (admin is an > alias). when i get mail to my admin account, i like to be able to send as > admin, when getting mail to my nick account, i like to send as nick, as > far as i know i cant do this with pine.=20 Pine 4.10 can do this with its Roles facility. I've not had any problem with Pine displaying attached images either, but it does rely on your mailcap file to work out how to handle them. Phil --=20 Philip Stokes Email: phil(a)stokes.demon.co.uk Fax: +44 (0)870 164 1242 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2419462908028409720==-- From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sun Apr 4 22:45:16 1999 From: dwj@linuxtoday.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 15:45:16 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2627788561757670065==" --===============2627788561757670065== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Nick wrote: > I use pine everyday myself. one thing i hate about in, though, is > that iit has no build in filtering. i use procmail to filter email and > that doesnt notify me of new mail, when its in something other than my > inbox.=20 It wouldn't take much effort to write a little crontab script to do this. But I do this by keeping my mail archive index open in Pine -- the mail archive includes all incoming mail regardless of where it gets filtered to by procmail. > Another thing about pine is that it doesnt support displaying > attached images, like graphical email clients do.=20 You can attach viewers for any file type and Pine will launch the viewer based on the attached file's extension. > One fof the biggest > drawbacks of pine, is the fact that i cant send as anyone but my primary > email account. Im an admin on a server, i have nick(a)myserver.com and > admin(a)myserver.com .. they both go to nick(a)myserver.com (admin is an > alias). when i get mail to my admin account, i like to be able to send as > admin, when getting mail to my nick account, i like to send as nick, as > far as i know i cant do this with pine.=20 =20 I can think of two ways to do this. First, you used to have to use a compile-time option to get the capability in Pine to alter the 'From:' address. But in the latest releases, it is merely a configuration option. Second, you could have an 'admin' account as well as a 'nick' account. You could open Pine in an xterm su'd into the 'admin' account for handling that mail. > The best email client ive ever used, unfortunately, has been > Outlook Express for MS Windows. If anyone knows of an email client similar > to this for Linux, Xwindows, please let me know. And i believe if someone > developed an email client with Outlooks full funcionality, it would be > greatly appreciated in the linux community, even if it was commercial, i'd > pay if it was like outlook. =20 The Applix folks talked of doing this when I visited their booth at Comdex Las Vegas last November. Personally, I have never tried Outlook Express as I don't use the Microsoft platform. Something I would like to have in Pine that isn't there is the capability to open multiple mails into separate windows for easy reference or cut and paste. Dwight -- http:/= /linuxtoday.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2627788561757670065==-- From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sun Apr 4 22:55:27 1999 From: dwj@linuxtoday.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 15:55:27 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904042054.MAA07975@wdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8191890895681910407==" --===============8191890895681910407== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, W.D.McKinney wrote: > After reading this thread, I am again convinced tha Xi Graphics > has made an excellent display manager to ride on top of XF86 libs. > This makes Communicator work very nice, as colors and fonts are not > an issue as the same way they are under XF86 alone. Do I hear you saying that with Accelerated X you don't run out of colors like you are constantly doing with XFree86? Dwight -- http:/= /linuxtoday.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8191890895681910407==-- From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 5 00:10:48 1999 From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:10:48 +0100 Message-ID: <483bb9ed48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5103834483374007389==" --===============5103834483374007389== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In message <Pine.LNX.3.96.990404141828.355Q-100000(= a)runner.aaronsrod.com> Dwight Johnson wrote: > > You know what else I like about being back on my Acorn mailer? Decent > > reformatting of quotes! :-) > =20 > I get decent reformatting of quotes, in fact perfect and complete > control of the way the text looks, by using VIM as an alternate editor > in Pine. To reformat a paragraph is just 'gq}' ctrl-F6 here. To reformat a paragraph, correctly whatever level of quoting is involved. Another nice thing this editor does (Zap in ZapEmail mode) is colour-code each quoting level, and also highlights when a line goes over the max line length limit you set (if you have auto-wordwrap off). > and there are related commands to reformat both larger and smaller blocks > of text. >=20 > > I'm well aware of PINE's feature set. In terms of functionality it's > > pretty definitive, but its user interface *is* apalling and although I > > *could* get used to it, I don't want to. :-)=20 >=20 > I have used Pine for all of the three years it has been since I came across > to Linux from DOS/Windows and, to my taste, the user interface is quite > good. I have tried quite a few other mailers but have found nothing I like > nearly as well. I vastly prefer a key command interface to one based on > clicking the mouse Any decent GUI application allows keyboard shortcuts. > it is so much faster and I prefer to work fast and be as productive as > possible. In fact, one of my main reasons for coming over to Linux from > DOS/Windows was to get back to the vastly greater productivity of the > command line and text-based programs. I do use X, but except for my > browser, X is primarily a platform for mounting as many xterms as I may > require to use VIM and other text-based tools. Well, we have the choice, which is why we use Linux. For my part, I *like* a rich GUI environment - but I also want it to be elegant, fast, responsive and reliable. I can't blame people coming from a Windows background for thinking those are irreconcilable, but I know different. :-) KDE is the nearest yet, but it's got a ways to go. --=20 Rachel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5103834483374007389==-- From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 5 00:12:49 1999 From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:12:49 +0100 Message-ID: <986ab9ed48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3707D066.85DAC442@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5820363916712529379==" --===============5820363916712529379== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In message <3707D066.85DAC442(a)mindspring.com> zentara wrote: >=20 > Rachel Greenham wrote: > >=20 > > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This > > is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable > > piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to > > use Outlook >=20 > I must stick up for the 4.5 version of Netscape that ships with SUSE6. It > is way better than the libc5 versions. The email function works good for > me. I had several thousand emails in there, and it was gradually getting more cruddy. Hmm. Make of it what you will. > The unsupported netscape451_glibc version works well also. I've now installed Navigator standalone of that version and it seems to be fine. --=20 Rachel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5820363916712529379==-- From gwhorn@globalnet.co.uk Mon Apr 5 00:18:25 1999 From: gwhorn@globalnet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: Why modem initialization hangs on"Expecting OK"? Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 00:18:25 +0000 Message-ID: <37080151.37B9B63C@globalnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Re: Why modem initialization hangs on"Expecting OK"?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3913189355223784776==" --===============3913189355223784776== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some time ago I queried this list to find out why kppp failed to dial my ISP properly when I updated from kernel 2.0.36 to 2.2.1. The symptom was that kppp got as far as "Initialising Modem" and no further. Wvdial also failed to find my internal sportster 33k modem (port 0x3e8, irq 7)but minicom could communicate with it. I did have success with x-isp and 2.2.1 but I prefer kppp and the email from Ryan proved to have the answer to my problem. I had used the MANUAL /etc/rc.d/serial settings for all my serial ports and had used 16550 instead of the 16550A reported by the kernel during the boot. Kernel 2.0.36 was happy with 16550 but not 2.2.1. My system is SuSE 6.0 and kernel 2.2.4. I'm very happy with it. I've set the uart to 115200 under kppp and the relevant part of /etc/rc.d/serial is as follows ... ############################################################### # # MANUAL CONFIGURATION=20 # # If you want to do manual configuration of one or more of your=20 # serial ports, uncomment and modify the relevant lines. # ############################################################### # These are the standard COM1 through COM4 devices # run_setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart 16550A port 0x3F8 irq 4 run_setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart 16550A port 0x2F8 irq 3 run_setserial /dev/ttyS2 uart 16550A port 0x3E8 irq 7 # run_setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16450 port 0x2E8 irq 3 =20 Thanks Ryan! the original uart settings not verified the type=20 Ryan wrote: >=20 > I had a similar problem when I upgraded to kernel 2.2.4 >=20 > With the old kernel (2.0.36) I had to (at boot time) set my UART to my mode= m to > 16550 rather than 16550A, because for some reason if it was at 16550A it ran > REALLY slow. But it worked great at 16550. When I got the new kernel, I cou= ld > not connect via ppp. And after a week of hair pulling I decided to try UART > 16550A, and with the new kernel it now works fine! > This may not be relevant to your problems, but it might help. Try using > different UARTs. To set different UARTs use 'setserial /dev/modem UART > xxxxx' -- if you find that this fixes the problem, edit your > /sbin/init.d/boot.local file and add the setserial line to it. Or you can = edit > /sbin/init.d/serial and add the line at the bottom as well, both methods wi= th > set your modem to the proper setting at boot time. For my modem I also use > the spd_vhi flag to set my modem to use the fastest settings. My line in > /sbin/init.d/boot.local is: 'setserial /dev/modem IRQ 10 UART 16550A > spd_vhi' . >=20 > Good luck! >=20 > Later, > Ryan > |ceman > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3913189355223784776==-- From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 5 00:19:07 1999 From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] RE: To hell with netscape (Email programs) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:19:07 +0100 Message-ID: <55feb9ed48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9216700284505791607==" --===============9216700284505791607== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In message <923262019.209115.0(a)www.twigger.nl> jboonen wrote: > Dear Rachel, >=20 > I have included a link for email clients and other email programs. I don't = > know if you're aware of www.linuxberg.com. But you're able to get a lot of = > free software there. It also shows a rating in the form of pinguins. This > is the link: http://al= pha1.Linuxberg.com/x11html/net_email.html> . Hmm. Might have a look at XFMail actually, I don't think I did try that one after all. > By the way i'm also using Netscape both for email and browsing. That is at = > work. I'm right now on my parents computer. I'm sending this email via an=20 > email enabled website. I have the following experiances with Netscape. It=20 > handeles low memory quite badly. It might be best to check via df you're > lest over disc space. Would it be possible to sent information about disc > ussage and about the hardware configuration of your computer? Trust me, it's got plenty of room. :-) --=20 Rachel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9216700284505791607==-- From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 5 00:36:23 1999 From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:36:23 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0311788030665112979==" --===============0311788030665112979== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In message <3707FF72.CB46F249(a)virgosolutions.demon.co.uk> Ralph Clark wrote: > I think I know now. Having monitored the Mozilla web site for quite a > while I see that their often repeated rule-of-thumb definition of > stability is that it stays up for one to two hours without crashing. hehe. Probably good enough for Windows. > Most recently, that was the requirement JWZ stated for the release of > the current beta version. However they have used that definition before > and I infer that the measure they'll use to define release quality for > the final non-Beta version of Communicator will not too different. > Moreover, experience of Netscape Communicator implies that a similar > policy applies to commercial Netscape browsers. >=20 > So my bet is that while Mozilla will be smaller, faster and a more > accurate HTML renderer, it won't be any more stable. I have hopes for the Gecko reimplementation. I also hope they'll allow one to map in a natively installed JVM instead of their own. It's galling wanting to use the JRun swing-based remote admin applet but not being able to, even though Blackdown's JDK is perfectly capable of doing it with applications. > The worst part of all this is when you've been editing a long email in > Netscape Messenger's mail editor while browsing at the same time. Click > on one link too many and bang! all Netscape windows close and hours of > work are down the drain. Or the GUI locks up, all the Netscape windows > stop refreshing and when in resigned desperation you issue a killall > -HUP netscape, the whole X session reboots with a core dump. Wow, I haven't had that happen! Netscape kept dying, but didn't take my xsession down - unlike the KDE screensaver. Grr. > (3) turn Java and Javascript off in Preferences if you are doing any > browsing at all They were off. > (4) don't "mouse" the controls on any Netscape windows too much > (5) keep an eye on memory usage using xosview or something similar > (6) If you've had any part of Netscape Communicator running for more > than an hour, close it all down and restart it before beginning your > edit. I was getting death after a few minutes. There was crud in files. I could clear it by deleting a folder's .summary file, forcing it to re-create it, but it would go wrong again later. --=20 Rachel http://www.enlarion.demon.co.uk/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0311788030665112979==-- From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Mon Apr 5 01:21:05 1999 From: bobbyg@ihug.co.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:21:05 +1200 Message-ID: <37081000.44772398@ihug.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0653947441434387706==" --===============0653947441434387706== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi yall, I too find Netscape 4.x a dog on Linux, but it is in my experinece, the best dog...... Woof? If I am gonna write a biggie email, I do so in WordPerfect then cut & paste it in. But even that fix is horrid, since the formatting is screwed. Suppose I could attach it as a .txt file. Say, has anyone tried Netscape version 3.x for Unix & will it run on Linux? Any joy? I would be tempted to use it, afore Mozzila comes stomping along. *BFN* Greek Geek :-) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0653947441434387706==-- From lag@c2i.net Mon Apr 5 01:44:55 1999 From: lag@c2i.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading SuSE > 6.0 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:44:55 +0000 Message-ID: <199904042344.BAA24300@golf.dax.net> In-Reply-To: <37076D58.32A0AB51@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3265719389602093636==" --===============3265719389602093636== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm still running SuSE 5.2 which I think was a good distribution. K-mail runs nicely, and Netscape 4.03 or thereabouts also runs without any but a few crashes on java here and there. I haven't bothered about that, but maybe I will. My KDE 1.0 also is fine although not bug-free. It runs on top of Accelerated-= X 4.1.1 which gets rid of the color problem with Netscape and Word Perfect 8. But maybe I'll upgrade come SuSE 6.1 bye now, Lars On Sun, 04 Apr 1999 08:47:04 -0500, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: --If you've got SuSE 6.0 you've got'm! --JLK -- --Lars A Gronningsater wrote: -->=20 --> On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:48:29 -0600, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: -->=20 --> So what's with the "new libc6 libs" ? --> Do we need them? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3265719389602093636==-- From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr 5 02:09:58 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:09:58 -0700 Message-ID: <199904050210.TAA19333@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: <37081000.44772398@ihug.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6834621648018693311==" --===============6834621648018693311== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5 Apr, Bobby Geortgilakis wrote: >=20 > Hi yall, >=20 > I too find Netscape 4.x a dog on Linux, but it is in my experinece, the > best dog...... Woof? >=20 > If I am gonna write a biggie email, I do so in WordPerfect then cut & > paste it in. But even that fix is horrid, since the formatting is > screwed. Suppose I could attach it as a .txt file. >=20 > Say, has anyone tried Netscape version 3.x for Unix & will it run on > Linux? Any joy? I would be tempted to use it, afore Mozzila comes > stomping along. >=20 > *BFN* >=20 > Greek Geek :-) >=20 I most often used netscape 3.04 for linux. Much more stable performer and does the major stuff. I used to have the netscape archive site for the old stuff bookmarked; does anyone happen to have it? I have the tarball for netscape 3.04 but would like to look around a bit at their site. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6834621648018693311==-- From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Mon Apr 5 02:13:23 1999 From: bobbyg@ihug.co.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape & Netscape version 3.04 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:13:23 +1200 Message-ID: <37081C43.40F2B65B@ihug.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape & Netscape version 3.04> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2066879059317690428==" --===============2066879059317690428== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Yall again, & especially, Michael Perry who wrote....... 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I have the tarball for netscape 3.04 but would like to look around a bit at their site. -- Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com" ---------------------- You can find it here & you could probabily get it a little faster from a site nearer your end of the Planet too....... http://bluep.Linuxberg.com/x11h= tml/net_web.html> I am just downloading it myself :-) *BFN* Greek Geek. :-) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2066879059317690428==-- From mcdonnells@home.com Mon Apr 5 02:20:50 1999 From: mcdonnells@home.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] (no subject) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:20:50 -0400 Message-ID: <37081E02.D8A4FFE1@home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3194014048948260404==" --===============3194014048948260404== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe
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From jlkreps@navix.net Mon Apr  5 02:33:02 1999
From: jlkreps@navix.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reason for blowup...
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:33:02 -0500
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I began using Netscape 4.5 when I upgraded to SuSE.  It has been a very
good performer for me until this week.  Since I had change nothing in
the last couple of weeks I felt that something about Netscape itself
must be changing.  The only thing I could think of was the size of the
caches, files, etc...  So, I went to the preferences and cleand
everything that had a clean button.  I went to the email and emptied the
trash and compacted the files.  It hasn't crashed since the cleanup. =20

???  

JLK
Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is
right.

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From dwj@linuxtoday.com Mon Apr  5 02:34:17 1999
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Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:34:17 -0700
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On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Bobby Geortgilakis wrote:

> Say, has anyone tried Netscape version 3.x for Unix & will it run on
> Linux? Any joy? I would be tempted to use it, afore Mozzila comes
> stomping along.

Sure, 3.x works fine on Linux. Netscape used to maintain a ftp site
for such obsolete versions. Sorry, can't tell you what it is.

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From jimo@eskimo.com Mon Apr  5 02:40:38 1999
From: jimo@eskimo.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re:  spring forward :)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:40:38 -0700
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Actually, one of my machines sprang, and the other didn't.
This is the first time I've had Linux fail to change on DST
day, so I'm very surprised.  Both running SuSE 5.3.

Can someone tell me where the DST change is controlled?
I must have something different between the two machines,
but nothing, I thought, in the clock department.  FWIW,
the machine that failed to spring has been running various
Slackware installations for six years.  I upgraded to SuSE
last fall, just after the DST change.  This the first time
it hasn't changed with DST.

Thanks in advance,

Jim
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From paulsen@imailbox.com Mon Apr  5 02:51:25 1999
From: paulsen@imailbox.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 and masquerading. Works, but...
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:51:25 -0500
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Yes, I have it working but...

I use the script below to start masquerading on my freshly installed 2.2.5
kernel (on SuSE 6.0) and it seems to be working OK.

But I would like to get it working the "right way" using the boot scripts in
/sbin/init.d. I see that the ipfwadm script checks for ipfwadm vs. ipchains f=
or
accounting but the masquerade script has ipfwadm hard coded and doesn't
appear to understand ipchains. Am I missing something? Is there another
rpm package I should download?

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D[ my script ]=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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#!/bin/sh
#
IPFDIR=3D/sbin
$IPFDIR/ipchains -P forward DENY
$IPFDIR/ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s 192.168.0.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0
$IPFDIR/ipchains -M -S 900 120 300
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From pmoon@mindspring.com Mon Apr  5 02:52:08 1999
From: pmoon@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Fwd: Needed updated packages to go to 2.2.25 kernel
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:52:08 -0500
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Hello folks,

        I am just forwarding this to the list in hopes that perhaps someone o=
ut
there that has allready upgraded to 2.2.25 may give me a clue, in case the
people a SuSE can not give me an answer quickly..

Thanks for any input you might provide ...

----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
Subject: Needed updated packages to go to 2.2.25 kernel
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:33:56 -0500
From: Perry Moon 

I know you do not support that kernel, however I just want to ask if you can
tell me where on the ftp server I can update the following base sustem packag=
es
I need before compiling the 2.2.25 kernel according to the changes doc in the
source tree....=20

Trying to find these update packages in the ftp.suse.com directory
structure is frustrating to say the least by modem with diald connecting and
disconnecting after a few seconds of inactivity..

                        Required		Installed from suse6.0   =20

Kernel Modutils		2.1.121			2.1.85

Linux libc5 c libraries	5.4.46			4.7.6   ?         (I think)

Linux libc6 c libraries	2.0.7pre6		    ""    "              "

procps			1.2.9			1.2.7

procinfo			16			15

net tools			1.50			1.46

autofs			3.11			not installed (will look  ftp)

nfs			2.2beta 40		2.2beta 38

ncpfs			2.2.0			not installed (will look ftp)

pcmcia-cs		3.0.7			not installed          ""

util-linux			2.9i			not installed

 =20
I am reading these requirements from the changes document in the source tree..
I must assume that you have these things somewhere as you are putting the
2.2.25 kernel in SuSE 6.1 ....    Please help !

Perry Moon
Systems Specialist=20
Philips NV (Medical Systems North America)
pmoon(a)mindspring.com
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From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr  5 03:04:07 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:  spring forward :)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:04:07 -0700
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On  4 Apr, Jim Osborn wrote:
>=20
> Actually, one of my machines sprang, and the other didn't.
> This is the first time I've had Linux fail to change on DST
> day, so I'm very surprised.  Both running SuSE 5.3.
>=20
> Can someone tell me where the DST change is controlled?
> I must have something different between the two machines,
> but nothing, I thought, in the clock department.  FWIW,
> the machine that failed to spring has been running various
> Slackware installations for six years.  I upgraded to SuSE
> last fall, just after the DST change.  This the first time
> it hasn't changed with DST.
>=20
> Thanks in advance,
>=20
> Jim
> jimo(a)eskimo.com
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I actually spoke rather soon.  My desktop did it but the laptop did not.
When I booted my laptop today, the time had not changed.  Both are
running SuSE 6, kernel 2.2.4.  I went in and reran the timezone thing
in yast on the laptop. I dont understand why one would spring and the
other did not??

So what does govern this timechange thing?  Is it the timezone
variable?  Perhaps I had not set it on the laptop?


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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr  5 03:42:48 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 and masquerading. Works, but...
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 05:42:48 +0200
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Robert C Paulsen Jr wrote:
>=20
> Yes, I have it working but...
>=20
> I use the script below to start masquerading on my freshly installed 2.2.5
> kernel (on SuSE 6.0) and it seems to be working OK.
>=20
> But I would like to get it working the "right way" using the boot scripts in
> /sbin/init.d. I see that the ipfwadm script checks for ipfwadm vs. ipchains=
 for
> accounting but the masquerade script has ipfwadm hard coded and doesn't
> appear to understand ipchains. Am I missing something? Is there another
> rpm package I should download?

The ipchains should include wrapperscripts for ipfwadmin. At least the
Source distribution does. If you have these wrapper scripts, your start
scripts should be able to work without changes.

Henning


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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr  5 03:47:48 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape        & Netscape version 3.04
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 05:47:48 +0200
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Bobby Geortgilakis wrote:
>=20
> Hi Yall again,
>=20
> & especially, Michael Perry who wrote.......
>=20
> "I most often used netscape 3.04 for linux.  Much more stable
> performer and does the major stuff.  I used to have the netscape archive
>=20
> site for the old stuff bookmarked; does anyone happen to have it?  I
> have
> the tarball for netscape 3.04 but would like to look around a bit at
> their site.
>=20
> --
> Michael Perry
> mperry(a)basin.com"
> ----------------------
>=20
> You can find it here & you could probabily get it a little faster from a
> site nearer your end of the Planet too.......
>=20
> http://bluep.Linuxberg.com/x1=
1html/net_web.html>

The original site is ftp://ftp.netscape.com/p=
ub/communicator/>, where the
subdomain may also be substituted with ftp2, ftp3, ftp4 ...

Henning


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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr  5 03:58:03 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fwd: Needed updated packages to go to 2.2.25 kernel
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 05:58:03 +0200
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Perry Moon wrote:
>=20
> Hello folks,
>=20
>         I am just forwarding this to the list in hopes that perhaps someone=
 out
> there that has allready upgraded to 2.2.25 may give me a clue, in case the
> people a SuSE can not give me an answer quickly..

This is an enhanced version of the ver_linux script. Execute it to
see which versions you really have installed on your machine.

http://hhv.de/projects/ve=
r-linux/usr/bin/ver-linux>=20

>=20
>                         Required                Installed from suse6.0
>=20
> Kernel Modutils         2.1.121                 2.1.85
>=20
> Linux libc5 c libraries 5.4.46                  4.7.6   ?         (I think)

If you've Suse 6.0, you have 5.4.46   =20
=20
> Linux libc6 c libraries 2.0.7pre6                   ""    "              "

You have 2.0.7

>=20
> procps                  1.2.9                   1.2.7
>=20
> procinfo                        16                      15
>=20
> net tools                       1.50                    1.46
>=20
> autofs                  3.11                    not installed (will look  f=
tp)
>=20
> nfs                     2.2beta 40              2.2beta 38
>=20
> ncpfs                   2.2.0                   not installed (will look ft=
p)
>=20
> pcmcia-cs               3.0.7                   not installed          ""
>=20
> util-linux                      2.9i                    not installed
>=20
>=20
> I am reading these requirements from the changes document in the source tre=
e..
> I must assume that you have these things somewhere as you are putting the
> 2.2.25 kernel in SuSE 6.1 ....    Please help !
=20
Check the following URL for latest versions and urls. Sorry, only urls
for sources, not rpms. But if you should't be able to find an rpm, tell
me.

Henning


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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr  5 04:05:41 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fwd: Needed updated packages to go to 2.2.25 kernel
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 06:05:41 +0200
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followup to my previous mail. Forgot the url:
http://hhv.de/projects/svs/usr/shar=
e/svs/vers>

Henning


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From gregt@nadel.com Mon Apr  5 04:47:33 1999
From: gregt@nadel.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:47:33 -0700
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Dwight Johnson wrote:

>=20
> On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Rachel Greenham wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > In message <199904041622.JAA17908(a)mperry.basi=
n.com>
> >           Michael Perry  wrote:
> >=20
> > >=20
> > > On  4 Apr, Rachel Greenham wrote:
> > > >=20
> > > > It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. =
This
> > > > is 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reli=
able
> > > > piece of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to
> > > > use Outlook out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a
> > > > perfectly good email client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I e=
ver
> > > > stopped using it.
> >=20
> > I'm well aware of PINE's feature set. In terms of functionality it's pret=
ty
> > definitive, but its user interface *is* apalling and although I *could* g=
et
> > used to it, I don't want to. :-)=20
>=20
> I have used Pine for all of the three years it has been since I came
> across to Linux from DOS/Windows and, to my taste, the user interface
> is quite good. I have tried quite a few other mailers but have found
> nothing I like nearly as well. I vastly prefer a key command interface
> to one based on clicking the mouse -- it is so much faster and I
> prefer to work fast and be as productive as possible. In fact, one of
> my main reasons for coming over to Linux from DOS/Windows was to get
> back to the vastly greater productivity of the command line and
> text-based programs. I do use X, but except for my browser, X is
> primarily a platform for mounting as many xterms as I may require to
> use VIM and other text-based tools.
>=20

I couldn't agree more with Dwight's comments about speed and productivity.
On the MS side I used Netscape, Eudora and Outlook, and after discovering
Pine I use it at work exclusively even though I have my choice of any of
the Windows programs.

Later, Greg


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From deem@wdm.com Mon Apr  5 05:11:12 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape        & Netscape version 3.04
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:11:12 -0800
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Try,

http:=
//home.netscape.com/download/archive/client_index2.html>

Best Regards
Dee

Michael Perry  wrote:
>=20
> On  5 Apr, hhv wrote:
> >=20
> > Bobby Geortgilakis wrote:
> >>=20
> >> Hi Yall again,
> >>=20
> >> & especially, Michael Perry who wrote.......
> >>=20
> >> "I most often used netscape 3.04 for linux.  Much more stable
> >> performer and does the major stuff.  I used to have the netscape archive
> >>=20
> >> site for the old stuff bookmarked; does anyone happen to have it?  I
> >> have
> >> the tarball for netscape 3.04 but would like to look around a bit at
> >> their site.
> >>=20
> >>=20


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From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr  5 05:17:19 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape        & Netscape version 3.04
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:17:19 -0700
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On  5 Apr, hhv wrote:
>=20
> Bobby Geortgilakis wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi Yall again,
>>=20
>> & especially, Michael Perry who wrote.......
>>=20
>> "I most often used netscape 3.04 for linux.  Much more stable
>> performer and does the major stuff.  I used to have the netscape archive
>>=20
>> site for the old stuff bookmarked; does anyone happen to have it?  I
>> have
>> the tarball for netscape 3.04 but would like to look around a bit at
>> their site.
>>=20
>> --
>> Michael Perry
>> mperry(a)basin.com"
>> ----------------------
>>=20
>> You can find it here & you could probabily get it a little faster from a
>> site nearer your end of the Planet too.......
>>=20
>> http://bluep.Linuxberg.com/x=
11html/net_web.html>
>=20
> The original site is <=
A HREF=3D"ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/ftp://ftp.netscape.com=
/pub/communicator/>, where the
> subdomain may also be substituted with ftp2, ftp3, ftp4 ...
>=20
> Henning
>=20
Unfortunately, this url only gets the most recent ones.  The older ones
are placed on some archive site with a different name.  I used to have
that bit of information, but seem to have lost it.  Luckily, I do have
the tarball on a jaz disk.  Sometimes I am happy with my anal
desire to save most everything to jaz drives.  :)  Everything but the
name of that archive site that netscape/aol (?) maintains.=20

I just cruised the regular archives at ftp.netscape.com and the older
ones are conspicuously absent and the directories start with someting
like 4.03 and go up from there.

--=20
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From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr  5 05:46:51 1999
From: mperry@basin.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape        & Netscape version 3.04
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:46:51 -0700
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On  4 Apr, W.D.McKinney wrote:
> Try,
>=20
> htt=
p://home.netscape.com/download/archive/client_index2.html>
>=20
> Best Regards
> Dee
>=20

Most excellent!!! Thanks much.

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From alfiesty@chaffee.net Mon Apr  5 07:04:30 1999
From: alfiesty@chaffee.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
 [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 and "Unable to open an initial console"
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:04:30 -0600
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Good Friday was really good to me, SuSE 6.0 arrived!!
I loaded it on Saturday, 4 times(don't ask) but continue=20
to get this strange problem. If I boot the system from my HD I get the
message "Unable to open an initial console". It comes after all the SCSI
disks are recognized and the partitions mounted. Immediately before the
message is the step "VFS:Mounted root(ext2 filesystem) readonly". If I boot
from the floppy made during installation it boots OK and the system is
useable. Not that I will boot that often, but it is strange and I would
like to fix it.

Jim

System is:
Nx 586-133 with 32M, 512K Cashe
Adaptek 1542A SCSI controller with
        4 SCSI Hard Disks, .7, 1.0, 1.3, and 2G
        SCSI CD ROM
Diamond Stealth PCI w/4M
WD 8013EP Ethernet
2 Serial, 1 Parallel on Motherboard
Mouse on Cua1, Modem on Cua2


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From alain.buret@village.uunet.be Mon Apr  5 07:30:30 1999
From: alain.buret@village.uunet.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Removing UPS
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:30:30 +0200
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Hi everybody

I installed SuSE 6.0 a few daysago, replacing an old Slackware 3.3 ...
whaow !!!
But, when installing software, I asked to install support for UPS (power
supply) ... I thought it was simply a module that I could activate the
way I want ... but in fact, it's loaded at boot, thru the /etc/rc.config
I assume. I made search but I can't found the way to remove it ... I saw
the argo file to configure, but nothing more ... should I simply remove
this file ?

Alain BURET
Belgium


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From tux@datapro.co.za Mon Apr  5 07:48:58 1999
From: tux@datapro.co.za
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:48:58 +0200
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On Sun, Apr 04, 1999 at 06:40:38PM +0200, Juergen Braukmann wrote:
> there must be something badly wrong. Although some people claim
> instability problems on netscape, I havn=C5=BDt had any problems with it for
> a long time. Nothing wrong with 6.0=C5=BDs 4.5 version here.

Well I had Netscape hang twice over the weekend.  When I surf I like to
find a page to read then leave it for later while carrying on in a new
window.  Then I can read them at my leisure after disconnecting from my
ISP.

When the currently downloading window hangs it prevents all the others
from repainting so I can't read the pages I have kept and must reload
them all after killing Netscape.  At South African Telkom rates this is
more than just irritating.

> I can agree to that, I like netscapes ability to sort threads, it looks
> better. Tried tkrat, xfmail(?) and a few more, but always returned to
> netscape.

I got tired of Netscape's mail because it looks lousy (even with
TrueType fonts), refuses to remember things like frame widths, etc just
the way I like them and the fact that it is tied so tightly to the
browser.  The browser seems to be the unstable part and it is really
painful when it takes the mailer down with it.  Comparing Netscape to
Internet Explorer/Outlook Express, I think that MS took the better route
by keeping them as separate executables.

--=20
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From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Apr  5 08:14:43 1999
From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: HDD question
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 10:14:43 +0200
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Hi,

On Sun, Apr 04, 1999 at 23:32 +0300, Dan Tudor wrote:

> I have a question concerning the hard drive activity under Linux.
> I happen to leave my computer staying idle for few hours and when I get bac=
k to
> it I found that my HDD is spinning furiously even though no aplication is
> running and none is using the computer... I wonder if it is normal... I mea=
n is
> it periodically checking the file system or something??
> Thank you for any light you can bring me.

Check if a cron job is running (see /var/log/messages).

Ciao,
        Stefan

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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Mon Apr  5 09:43:30 1999
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Cable Modem Question
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:43:30 +0200
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Nick wrote:

> Hello, Ive had my cable modem hooked up succesfully for over a month now,
> im using the @home services.
>=20
> my problem is that it doesnt seem to be as fast as its "cracked up" to be,
> particularly when telneting to my remote server and editing files remotely

Hi Nick;

I don't have a cable, not here yet. But I remember someone saying a few
weeks ago that a cable modem is only as fast as the slowst part of your
connection. This guy was in the US and was d/l'ing something from Poland.
He said that it was no better than a normal 56k modem. This maybe is your
problem too.=20

Hope this helps!

J
I
M
-----------------------------------------
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Germany=20
hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de

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From john.ericson@home.se Mon Apr  5 09:51:41 1999
From: john.ericson@home.se
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Install KDE 1.1 on suse 6.0 system
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 02:51:41 +0000
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Im using SuSE 6.0 and I downloaded all of the files I needed and it worked
perfectly. I havent seen a *big 1* complete KDE 1.1 upgrade rpm.

At 13:16 1999-04-04 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>I'm trying to update to KDE 1.1, and have been reading lots of mail
>archives, FAQ's, etc, and am still not sure what the right way to proceed
>is.
>
>I'm looking for a complete KDE1.1 "package" which will fit into a suse6.0
>distribution.
>
>There are a host of files on ftp.suse.com, but no real guidance which says
>"install the files in this directory"..
>
>So, a bit more hunting, and I've found
>
>ftp://ftp.linuxberg.com/pub/KDE/stable/1.1/distri=
bution/rpm/SuSE-6.0/binary/>
>
>Which has about 18 packages or so.
>
>My question: is this the right way to install the new version of KDE 1.1?
>
>Are there some guidelines I'm missing?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Regards,
>
>Francis J. Bruening
>Linux newbie
>
>
>
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From john.ericson@home.se Mon Apr  5 10:01:22 1999
From: john.ericson@home.se
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Apache. Error running CGI-script.
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 03:01:22 +0000
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Isnt that line just for cgi-scripts outside the /usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin/
directory. Anyway I still get the same error message.

here is a cut from my httpd.conf file:


ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin/"

#
# "/usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin" should be changed to whatever your ScriptAliased
# CGI directory exists, if you have that configured.
#

    AllowOverride None
    Options None
    Order allow,deny
    Allow from all


# cgi-bin for SuSE help system
# using SetHandler


AllowOverride None
Options +ExecCGI -Includes
SetHandler cgi-script


# enable perl for cgi-bin
#


AddHandler  perl-script .pl
PerlHandler Apache::Registry
PerlSendHeader On
Options +ExecCGI




>
>I'm not sure the exact lines to use, but you must
>specify the .cgi type to be allowed in your
>http.conf. I think it is called an "AddHandler"
>
>I have a line " AddHandler cgi-script .cgi"
>
>But I don't know if you can run a perl script
>as a .cgi file, it might conflict with
>the Addhandler for perl scripts.
>
>Try running a bash shell script with a .cgi ending.
>

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From brauki@cityweb.de Mon Apr  5 10:07:45 1999
From: brauki@cityweb.de
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Subject:
 Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reason for blowup...
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:07:45 +0200
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Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
>=20
> I began using Netscape 4.5 when I upgraded to SuSE.  It has been a very
> good performer for me until this week.  Since I had change nothing in
> the last couple of weeks I felt that something about Netscape itself
> must be changing.  The only thing I could think of was the size of the
> caches, files, etc...  So, I went to the preferences and cleand
> everything that had a clean button.  I went to the email and emptied the
> trash and compacted the files.  It hasn't crashed since the cleanup.
>=20
> ???  
>=20

Similar experiance here. (Netscape 3.x as I remember). Clicking onto a
mail would cause Netscape do draw every bit of gettable memory. You
could see the bars in xosview rise to the right, even swap.
In the end, I deleted my .netscape dir and started from scratch. I never
found out what caused that.

Juergen


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From snieto@sc.sas.cica.es Mon Apr  5 10:59:32 1999
From: snieto@sc.sas.cica.es
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] rdist
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:59:32 +0200
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Hello,

    I have problems with rsh and root user, you can say me that I had o
allowed a remote access ( ROOT_LOGIN_REMOTE=3D"yes" ), I have written the
remote hosts in /etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.equiv, and in /root/.rhosts, but
I can=C5=BDt use rlogin, rsh, rcp, ... with root user.

    My problem is that I want to use rdist to maintain identical copies
of files over two hosts, and root is the owner of these files. How can I
use rdist if I'm root user ?

      Thank you


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From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Mon Apr  5 12:52:41 1999
From: k01164@ko.sdu.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] [Off Topic] What is the
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:52:41 +0200
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Maurizio Firmani wrote:

>=20
> correct way to pronounce Apache?

Like zentara said apatchee

The name (of the web-server) has nothing to do with
native Americans. It is purely intended as a pun.

The coders started with another web-server (NCSA httpd I think)
and applied a lot of their own patches. Thus
the result was   a patchy  web-server,
which became      Apache   web-server.

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From kester@cwcom.net Mon Apr  5 13:01:10 1999
From: kester@cwcom.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:01:10 +0100
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I sympathise with this, I just cannot find the email program I want under
Linux - Pine is OK, but faffing about with endless docs about
sendmail/fetchmail etc is getting to be tedious and no URL 'click and
view' stuff is a nusiance...=20

Anybody know if tkrat is any good? I installed mine from the SuSE 5.3 CD
today and it just didn't work: all kinds of errors. :-(
k.

On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Rachel Greenham wrote:

>=20
> It's just crashed on me once too often while I was writing an email. This is
> 4.5 as comes with SuSE 6 by the way and is probably the least reliable piece
> of "production" software I have ever used. I'm almost tempted to use Outlook
> out of spite, but it really would be spite as I have a perfectly good email
> client here on my Acorn and I don't know why I ever stopped using it.
>=20
> The only good thing I can say is that, being that it's running on Linux,
> Netscape can't do any more harm than crash itself.
>=20
> HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them all.
> They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), lacking in co=
re
> functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), or can't even get it
> to work at all (Most others).
>=20
> Yours, in utter fury:
>=20
> --=20
> Rachel
>=20
> P.S. The sort of fury that probably starts new OSS projects, but I haven't
> got the time right now, there's things I'm trying to DO dammit!
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From tobiasschaefer@gmx.de Mon Apr  5 13:09:52 1999
From: tobiasschaefer@gmx.de
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Fax
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Hello,

I want to install an Linux-Faxserver in a Win9x LAN which only sends
faxes.=20
Which software do I need to install? No frontend is needed since the
Linux-Server only serves as a server.
How do get the Win9x-Computers to ask for the fax Number?

Thanks

Tobias

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From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Mon Apr  5 13:40:29 1999
From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Cable Modem Question
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 08:40:29 -0500
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Hi,

On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Nick wrote:
>=20
> when i ping remote servers, sometimes there will be a large delay, like
> from an avg of 30 mioli seconds to one thats 160 mili seconds,, and a 30%
> packet loss.  maybe thats normal, i dont know, like i said, ive only had
> this cable modem a month.

this ping times and a pcket loss is definitely not normal.
i would complain to provider.
try pinging your gateway and see if the stats are still that bad.
traceroute to your destination host and see where the link is slow or bad.

-alexm


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From nhasan@usa.net Mon Apr  5 13:57:56 1999
From: nhasan@usa.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Sound Card (CS4236B) with 2.2.5
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:57:56 -0400
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Hi,

I just compiled 2.2.5 with sound driver as a module. I have Dell XPSR
with on-board
Crystal Semiconductor CS4236B sound card. I am not able to configure my
card
properly. When I try to load the module from command line it gives me
"resource
busy" error after a minute of lockup. With my 2.0.36, I had tried OSS
with no luck.
Now when I do cat /dev/sndstat, I see OSS as the sound driver although I
uninstalled
the OSSFREE package. How do I get rid of OSS and get my sound working
with
kernel compiled drivers?
I have done make modules and make modules_install.

Cheers,
Nadeem


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From imm@KidsCare.Net Mon Apr  5 14:01:36 1999
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Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:01:36 -0500
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brauki(a)cityweb.de writes:
>>=20
>> I began using Netscape 4.5 when I upgraded to SuSE.  It has been a very
>> good performer for me until this week.  Since I had change nothing in
>> the last couple of weeks I felt that something about Netscape itself
>> must be changing.  The only thing I could think of was the size of the
>> caches, files, etc...  So, I went to the preferences and cleand
>> everything that had a clean button.  I went to the email and emptied the
>> trash and compacted the files.  It hasn't crashed since the cleanup.
>>=20
We'll the good news is operasoftware will release a linux browser soon. yea
I tried this for a while in windows and I found it to be a
great fast littlew browser only 4mb!!=20
The bad news is that they want money for it but hell I might actually buy
a piece
of software. Once you are accustomed to opera there isn't a better browser.
L8R
ian the sane


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From ksaj@xoommail.com Mon Apr  5 14:27:30 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Advocates Turn Violent, Go On Rampage
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 07:27:30 -0700
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alexm wrote:
 >=20
 >=20
 > http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.htm=
l>

Excellent.  :)

The photos were the best.

 Karsten

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From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Mon Apr  5 14:57:19 1999
From: richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] maximal mount count, check forced..?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:57:19 +0100
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Hi

What does this mean:

maximal mount count, check forced?

It appears sometimes on booting SuSE Linux 6.0

Thanks
Rich
--===============1497766728016038094==-- From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Mon Apr 5 16:31:43 1999 From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ethernet BNC and TP Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:31:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7864560140635102249==" --===============7864560140635102249== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, a question on ethernet :-) I friend of mine connected 4 machines with the bnc cable (properly terminated and stuff): linux, solaris, aix, and, of course, win95. (Note: I told him that BNC is slow and that TP is much better ;-) ) The problem is that solaris, aix, and win95 can ping to each other, while linux can only ping to itself. I could not find anything wrong with his setup. SUN-----------linux---------win95---------AIX --> all on the same cable linux machine is in the middle. the card is porperly recognized and is UP. IP address and netmask look OK. Now here is the question: Do you have to specify what connection you are using on an ethernet card: BNC or TP? If yes, then how? Also, why do you think this setup does not work? Thank you for your time and effort :-) -alexm -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at
<= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7864560140635102249==-- From sagamp@viagate.com Mon Apr 5 16:43:36 1999 From: sagamp@viagate.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PHP & Apache on Suse5.3 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:43:36 -0400 Message-ID: <3708E838.F34FD9E0@viagate.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5514602503601500024==" --===============5514602503601500024== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone successfully built a PHP DSO for Apache ? Suse installs apcahe in its own way - quite difficut to install/build modules into it. Is there any help documented anywhere for using the apache development package ? Thanks -Deep -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5514602503601500024==-- From sinthetk@inlink.com Mon Apr 5 16:48:53 1999 From: sinthetk@inlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:48:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3708E975.FE4E73C4@inlink.com> In-Reply-To: <3707D066.85DAC442@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3813765789644002269==" --===============3813765789644002269== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I have been following this for the last few days, and I just don't understand why I am so special :) I use Netscape 4.5 the 128 bit version. I downloaded it at work when I was bored one day along with just about every windowmaker theme I could find. I didn't install Netscape from the SuSE cd's, I always tend to download it from netscapes site cause I use the 128 bit version. I have been using Netscape for mail, browsing...etc...for a very long time. I first used it around the beta's for version 1.0 and I have never had a problem with it. I have been reading all these weird things in the posts about crashs..etc...and I never get it. About certain " features " .. I just disabled it's ability to retrieve my mail without asking..and set every preference in netscape as detailed to what I like as I could. I do agree that it's annoying that when you are downloading a file or going to a huge website that you can't check your mail cause the button isn't usable..I can live with that. I never have it crash on me, but I will agree that it's a memory hog..oh well, I have 256 megs of ram..let it play :) I write at least 200 e-mails a day and it doesn't belch at me at all,= I don't know if it is because I downloaded it from netscape and didn't install it from the SuSE cd's *shrug* I don't know..oh well...I guess it must be some variable like the video card or another piece of hardware that is causing the problems...well, that's about it from this Netscape user :) > I must stick up for the 4.5 version of Netscape > that ships with SUSE6. It is way better than the libc5 versions. > The email function works good for me. >=20 > The unsupported netscape451_glibc version works well also. >=20 > The only bug that I've noticed is that when you open mail, > it sometimes checks for new emails without being told to do so, > and it locks up the menus while it does this. It is annoying, > but workable. --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)inlink.com " Powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3813765789644002269==-- From HKNIEF@taos.com Mon Apr 5 17:12:55 1999 From: HKNIEF@taos.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] ethernet BNC and TP Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 10:12:55 -0700 Message-ID: <21DEAE09F017D111969700A0C9840752F27D66@espresso.taos.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] ethernet BNC and TP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8674591578455671665==" --===============8674591578455671665== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It depends on the card you're using... some of the older combo ISA cards (3Com 3C509, etc.)needed to be configured via their (3Com's) utilities disk before they would operate correctly (this set the IRQ, base address, and port.) Most newer card auto-sense... - Herman > -----Original Message----- > From: alexm [SMTP:alexm(a)quake.tx.symbio.net] > Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 9:32 AM > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: [SuSE Linux] ethernet BNC and TP >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > a question on ethernet :-) >=20 > I friend of mine connected 4 machines with the bnc cable (properly > terminated and stuff): linux, solaris, aix, and, of course, win95. > (Note: I told him that BNC is slow and that TP is much better ;-) ) > The problem is that solaris, aix, and win95 can ping to each other, > while > linux can only ping to itself. > I could not find anything wrong with his setup. >=20 > SUN-----------linux---------win95---------AIX --> all on the same > cable >=20 > linux machine is in the middle. > the card is porperly recognized and is UP. > IP address and netmask look OK. > Now here is the question: > Do you have to specify what connection you are using on an ethernet > card: > BNC or TP? > If yes, then how? > Also, why do you think this setup does not work? >=20 > Thank you for your time and effort :-) >=20 > -alexm >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and > the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8674591578455671665==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Mon Apr 5 17:32:11 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Removing UPS Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:32:11 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37086695.7F2BA44E@village.uunet.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4567807090522786871==" --===============4567807090522786871== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Alain BURET wrote: >=20 > Hi everybody >=20 > I installed SuSE 6.0 a few daysago, replacing an old Slackware 3.3 ... > whaow !!! > But, when installing software, I asked to install support for UPS (power > supply) ... I thought it was simply a module that I could activate the > way I want ... but in fact, it's loaded at boot, thru the /etc/rc.config > I assume. I made search but I can't found the way to remove it ... I saw > the argo file to configure, but nothing more ... should I simply remove > this file ? No... that would cause error messages when you start up. You realise, of course, that Slackware uses BSD-style initialisation, whereas SuSE, for some unknown reason, uses SysV-style intialisation. Which means that the experience of grepping through the files in /etc/rc.d maybe be slightly different. However, there is a README in /etc/rc.d that explains the whole thing ("The SuSE Boot Concept", perhaps to be followed up by the SuSE "leisure concept"...). ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4567807090522786871==-- From sinthetk@inlink.com Mon Apr 5 17:51:45 1999 From: sinthetk@inlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] netscape and hardware Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:51:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3560969361483216194==" --===============3560969361483216194== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with the last post about a hardware summary.. my machine is as follows.. Sony Multiscan 200sx PII 266 (512k cache) Intel PD440FX MB 128 megs of EDO Ram Adaptec 2940UW SCSI controller Matrox Millinium II (pci) 4 meg Teac 32X SCSI CDROM Fujitzu UW 4.3 gig HD Connor SCSI 2 HD (boot drive) I have not had any problems with this hardware, and it's starting to become very outdated...*shrug* ----- Ben Rosenberg ----------------||--------------------- mailto:sinthetk(a)inlink.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3560969361483216194==-- From boyd@cs.unca.edu Mon Apr 5 18:25:45 1999 From: boyd@cs.unca.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Cable Modem Question Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:25:45 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6050581369045696337==" --===============6050581369045696337== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nick, , wrote: > Hello, Ive had my cable modem hooked up succesfully for over a month now, > im using the @home services. >=20 > my problem is that it doesnt seem to be as fast as its "cracked up" to be, > particularly when telneting to my remote server and editing files remotely The performance factor that matters when telneting is latency, not bandwidth. I can use my own modem connection at my office for ppp connections or i can use an ISP's connection. With the ISP I get twice the bandwidth but much worse latency. Bandwidth isn't a big issue telneting, but latency is. With bad latency I can type well ahead of the the characters appearing on the screen (and I'm a SLOW typist). The problem is that the ISP is connecting to my remote system via several internet hops. When I use my own system as a ppp server, I have only a single local 'hop' between me and the remote system. Your cable modem offers large bandwidth (for downloads), but no lower latency than a regular ISP. Mark -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6050581369045696337==-- From chjo@tripnet.se Mon Apr 5 19:07:08 1999 From: chjo@tripnet.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] maximal mount count, check forced..? Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:07:08 +0200 Message-ID: <370909DC.8474C4D5@tripnet.se> In-Reply-To: <000901be7f8e$3b6dfca0$466c883e@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3423620965461010885==" --===============3423620965461010885== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Richard Booth wrote: >=20 > Hi >=20 > What does this mean: >=20 > maximal mount count, check forced? >=20 > It appears sometimes on booting SuSE Linux 6.0 >=20 > Thanks > Rich This is what the LDP Linux-FAQ says: This message is issued by the kernel when it mounts a file system that's marked as clean, but whose ``number of mounts since check'' counter has reached the predefined value. The solution is to get the latest version of the ext2fs utilities (e2fsprogs-0.5b.tar.gz at the time of writing) from the usual sites. (` Where can I get Linux material by FTP? '')=20 The maximal number of mounts value can be examined and changed using the tune2fs program from this package.=20 Tina --=20 <mailto:chjo(a)tripnet.se><http://www8.tripnet.se/~chjo/>> -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3423620965461010885==-- From tschlemmer@sequeltech.com Mon Apr 5 19:16:27 1999 From: tschlemmer@sequeltech.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Removing UPS Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:16:27 -0700 Message-ID: <37090C0B.25BA0F87@sequeltech.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2388922796206640429==" --===============2388922796206640429== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The easiest way I've found for controlling whether a service or daemon process is started up is to find the apppropriate variable in the /etc/rc.config file and set it to a value of "no". If you look at the various control scripts in the /etc/rc.d directory you can see that they all source in the /etc/rc.config file and if the variable they care about is set to "yes" then they startup the specified program otherwise the script generally does nothing. Ewan Dunbar wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Alain BURET wrote: >=20 > > > > Hi everybody > > > > I installed SuSE 6.0 a few daysago, replacing an old Slackware 3.3 ... > > whaow !!! > > But, when installing software, I asked to install support for UPS (power > > supply) ... I thought it was simply a module that I could activate the > > way I want ... but in fact, it's loaded at boot, thru the /etc/rc.config > > I assume. I made search but I can't found the way to remove it ... I saw > > the argo file to configure, but nothing more ... should I simply remove > > this file ? >=20 > No... that would cause error messages when you start up. You realise, of > course, that Slackware uses BSD-style initialisation, whereas SuSE, for > some unknown reason, uses SysV-style intialisation. Which means that the > experience of grepping through the files in /etc/rc.d maybe be slightly > different. However, there is a README in /etc/rc.d that explains the whole > thing ("The SuSE Boot Concept", perhaps to be followed up by the SuSE > "leisure concept"...). >=20 > ------------------------------------------------ > Ewan Dunbar > ------------------------------------------------ > Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at > http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.h= tml> > ------------------------------------------------ >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Tony --=20 Tony Schlemmer mailto:tschlemmer(a)sequeltech= .com http://www.sequeltech.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2388922796206640429==-- From wolfsong@blaze.ca Mon Apr 5 19:24:39 1999 From: wolfsong@blaze.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reason for blowup... Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:24:39 -0700 Message-ID: <37090DF7.3268415C@blaze.ca> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1346708686727995502==" --===============1346708686727995502== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, all -=20 For those who are interested, there's a lovely little browser called Grail....developed with Python. check out: http://monty.cnri.reston.va.us/grail/> Although i've not had a horrendous amount of difficulty with Netscape, Grail intrigues me...and what is more, those who started it are apparently abandoning the project due to time constraints. Which means that, for those who are interested, here's a nice chance to add our $0.02 to the project. any takers? -- islandwolf "live from the den of ubiquity" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1346708686727995502==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Mon Apr 5 19:59:02 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] maximal mount count, check forced..? Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 20:59:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370909DC.8474C4D5@tripnet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8491523252590843146==" --===============8491523252590843146== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05-Apr-99 Tina wrote: >> Richard Booth wrote: >> What does this mean: >> maximal mount count, check forced? >> It appears sometimes on booting SuSE Linux 6.0 >=20 > This is what the LDP Linux-FAQ says: >=20 > This message is issued by the kernel when it mounts a file system > that's marked as clean, but whose ``number of mounts since check'' > counter has reached the predefined value. The solution is to get the > latest version of the ext2fs utilities Calling this "the solution" implies that the message is "a problem". Maximal mount count is there for a purpose, which has to do with the fact that you can have a filesystem cleanly shut down and marked as "clean", yet still have errors on it which would be picked up by running fsck. Since there is the possibility of a filesystem error creeeping in over time, it is wise to check it anyway, once in a while. It is handy that the system does this for you automatically, and the only change I could recommend would possibly be to increase the value of max-mount-count but not so much that it hardly ever happens. It may be irritating that once in a while the system takes 10 minutes to boot instead of 2, but I reckon it's worth it. Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 05-Apr-99 Time: 20:59:02 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8491523252590843146==-- From tsteven@maptel.es Mon Apr 5 20:08:19 1999 From: tsteven@maptel.es To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:08:19 +0200 Message-ID: <37091833.48C4995C@maptel.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2944268795865163967==" --===============2944268795865163967== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, After the recent thread on e-Mail clients I thought I would check a sample of recent postings to this list to see what people actually use, rather than what they say they like. Here are the results:- Mozilla /Linux..........13 Mozilla /Win-x..........5 Pine /Linux.......... 9 Outlook /Win-x..........5 KMail /Linux.......... 6 Eudora /Win-x..........2 Mutt /Linux.......... 4 Pegasus /Win-x..........1 Xfmail /Linux.......... 3 =20 Ishmail /Linux.......... 1 Pine4 /Unix...........1 WebMail /Linux.......... 1 PMMail /Linux.......... 1 FoxMail /????...........1 I am not saying that this is a fair sample nor that it is statistically valid but it does support a problem I had, that is.- why so many people are complaining ( on this list ) about Netscape >4 when I have never had it crash:- it obviously works ok for many people.I use SuSE 5.3//kernel 2.0.36//X+blackbox (wm). Running multiple copies/ cutting and pasting messages etc is not a problem as has been posted here :> ). Newbie question: If one hasn't changed any hardware and there hasn't been a major change like libc5>libc6, is there any good reason to update kernels????. bye Trevor. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2944268795865163967==-- From shangowhite@hotmail.com Mon Apr 5 20:12:59 1999 From: shangowhite@hotmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Cable Modem Question II Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:12:59 -0700 Message-ID: <19990405201259.53159.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8014247032342796185==" --===============8014247032342796185== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got TCI =3D) Ok, I first tested the modem with my computer and it has a new Linksys=20 10/100 card in it. It got enormous speed =3D) Then I did soem work put a 16 port hub on the modem, hooked up 4=20 computers as of right now. Usually only 2 computers are asking for=20 packets. Now my problem is. My computer is signaling problems. It has no problem=20 with websites but downloads are unbearable slow. I am lucky if I reach=20 twice the speed of a 56k. As I said simple browsing is fast. Now the other computers have a winbond 10/100 card in them. They have=20 also no problem browsing. Downloading is though faster than on my=20 machine. It still doesn't reach the speed when I ran it without hub. I imagine the hub puts a small speed trap in there but not to the amount=20 I see it imagineable. By how much should the hub affect this or do I have a defect card in my=20 machine. I believe TCI also takes part in the slow down as sometimes=20 their service entirely drops out with 5-30 second gaps. How do I know if I have a defective network card??? Thanks, Shango Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8014247032342796185==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Mon Apr 5 20:35:00 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] maximal mount count, check forced..? Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:35:00 -0400 Message-ID: <37091E74.388D8BAC@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <000901be7f8e$3b6dfca0$466c883e@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8259965273110471995==" --===============8259965273110471995== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Richard Booth wrote: >=20 > Hi >=20 > What does this mean: >=20 > maximal mount count, check forced? >=20 > It appears sometimes on booting SuSE Linux 6.0 >=20 There is a filesystem checking utility called tune2fs. By default, a value of 10 is set to it, so every tenth bootup, your ext2fs will be checked for errors. You can change it. I have mine set at 100. Look at man tune2fs. You need to do it for each drive mounted. Example: tune2fs -c 100 /dev/hda1 tune2fs -c 100 /dev/hda2 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8259965273110471995==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Mon Apr 5 20:35:18 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound Card (CS4236B) with 2.2.5 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:35:18 -0400 Message-ID: <37091E86.BC1DA62A@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <3708C164.E32151E7@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5564250731311494956==" --===============5564250731311494956== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nadeem Hasan wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I just compiled 2.2.5 with sound driver as a module. I have Dell XPSR > with on-board > Crystal Semiconductor CS4236B sound card. I am not able to configure my > card > properly. When I try to load the module from command line it gives me > "resource > busy" error after a minute of lockup. With my 2.0.36, I had tried OSS You probably have a conflict with your printer port, or isapnp is not initializing your soundcard. The 2.2.5 kernel likes to use irq7 for /dev/lp0, so make sure your bios sets the lpt port to irq7, NOT AUTO. Then make sure your soundcard is initialized in /etc/isapnp.conf. Did you read the CS4232 doc in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound? You can use the modprobe commands from the commandline, but it is easier to put the info in /etc/conf.modules. You might want to ask around for a good set of conf.modules entries for the CS4236B, maybe in comp.os.linux.setup The entries should look something like: alias char-major-14 sound alias sound cs4232 options cs4232 io=3D0x220 irq=3D5 dma=3D1 dma16=3D5 mpu_io=3D0x330 post-install cs4232 modprobe opl3 This is just a guess. But conf.module entries like these will autoload sound whenever you need it , if you have the kernel=20 module auto-loader enabled. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5564250731311494956==-- From rthompson@motleypc.com Mon Apr 5 20:36:15 1999 From: rthompson@motleypc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:36:15 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01be7fa3$f36ebc30$30e7d8cd@rlt450> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5139029877509937158==" --===============5139029877509937158== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You're not special ;-) I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite some time. I do get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by and large it works reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape ftp site. I think your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is probably dead on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) and maybe that's why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be having. How about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems? It may be an eye-opener....something we could send of to either Netscape or to the offending hardware manufacturers. Rick Thompson > Hello all, > > I have been following this for the last few days, and I just don't > understand why I am so special :) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5139029877509937158==-- From speng@home.com Mon Apr 5 20:39:09 1999 From: speng@home.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] IPAUTOFW for Xsecession Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:39:09 -0400 Message-ID: <37091F6D.C08915D2@home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1067383635421939540==" --===============1067383635421939540== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,

I currently use IP_masquerade to let the machines in my private LAN
connect
to internet through my Linux Server running SuSE 6.0.

However I cannot use "ipautofw" to set remote site's X-session to my
local
machines (with private IP: 192.168.1.x ).

I re-compiled the kernel (2.0.36 ) with the approprate flag turnned on.
But the ipautofw
still doesn't work.

I would appreciate if anyone can tell me how to do it and where to find
the correct binary
executable for "ipautofw" for SuSE.

Thanks a lot for your help.

Best wishes,
sean

-------------------------------
Sean H.E. Peng
Computer Engineering  Research Group
University  of  Toronto

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You're not special ;-)
I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite some time. I do
get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by and large it works
reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape ftp site. I think
your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is probably dead
on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) and maybe that's
why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be having. How
about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems? It may
be an eye-opener....something we could send of to either Netscape or to the
offending hardware manufacturers.
Rick Thompson

> Hello all,
>
> I have been following this for the last few days, and I just don't
> understand why I am so special :)


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--===============1067383635421939540==-- From mongr@mongrz.tzo.com Mon Apr 5 21:10:35 1999 From: mongr@mongrz.tzo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:10:35 +0000 Message-ID: <370926CB.408229A3@mongrz.tzo.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8181162934666009654==" --===============8181162934666009654== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well...here is theory two: All the programmers at Netscape use Matrox boards! Since Benjamin and I both have Matrox boards...and neither have any problems. :-) However I'm now using a Riva TNT.....with no diffuculties thus far. It's not that I'm not pushing Netscape as hard as the next guy.....I do alot of surfing and the browser is open for hours at a time. Rick Thompson Ralph Clark wrote: > Rick Thompson wrote: > > > You're not special ;-) > > I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite some time. I = do > > get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by and large it wor= ks > > reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape ftp site. I think > > your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is probably dead > > on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) and maybe that= 's > > why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be having. How > > about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems? > > It's not the video hardware. I've had the same problems with all Communicat= or > 4.x using an ancient S3 5426 board, an ancient ET4000, an ATI Mach 64 > Xpert(a)Play AGP and an STB Velocity 128 AGP (Nvidia Riva). That's on Linux= -FT, -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at
<= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8181162934666009654==-- From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 5 21:57:38 1999 From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:57:38 +0100 Message-ID: <43e030ee48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <37091833.48C4995C@maptel.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8156400938455488810==" --===============8156400938455488810== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In message <37091833.48C4995C(a)maptel.es> "Trevor D. Stevenson" wrote: >=20 > Hi all, > After the recent thread on e-Mail clients I thought I would check a > sample of recent postings to this list to see what people actually use, > rather than what they say they like. Here are the results:- Hmph. You missed the one I'm using. :-) --=20 Rachel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8156400938455488810==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 5 21:59:11 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 and masquerading. Works, but... Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 23:59:11 +0200 Message-ID: <3709322F.7CF0592B@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 and masquerading. Works, but...> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1662762596555450033==" --===============1662762596555450033== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Robert C. Paulsen, Jr." wrote: > If you mean "/sbin/ipfwadm-wrapper", yes, I have that file but it Sorry, can't tell you more about that. I've never used it. I only knew, that it was there and what was its purpose. But if I were you, I would copy ipchains to a safe place and rename the wrapper script to ipfwadm and then restart and so on and see, what hapopens. BTW, I have a manpage for this, so you should have too. There's also an ipchains-HOWTO. If you don't have it, tell me. Perhaps it's a good idea to have a look at these before testing. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1662762596555450033==-- From ryanak@thuntek.net Mon Apr 5 22:01:05 1999 From: ryanak@thuntek.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Strange PPP problems... Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:01:05 -0600 Message-ID: <370932A1.50BE5E49@thuntek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8036724680046888129==" --===============8036724680046888129== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, My PPP connection to the Internet works, but it is acting very strange. The first problem always happens when using KPPP, I can connect with KPPP, and I have it set to reconnect on disconnect. Well, it connects, but as soon as it disconnects, pppd throws this error "ioctl(PPPIOCSASYNCMAP): Input/output error(5)" (/var/log/messages). I downloaded and installed XISP, and it dont connect at all, but I have decided not to use it. My ppp-up (/etc/suseppp/scripts/ppp-up generic)=20 has always worked. But now (just started yesturday) when I try to connect using it pppd throws this error "Serial line is looped back" or similar. However KPPP still works fine, but only on the first dialout (not reconnects). I have tried having yast re-write every file with no luck. I still get the error..... BTW, My main objective is to get my ppp-up script working again, and I will add the "persist" and "holdoff" command in the options file and be done with kppp. And one more question, when the script runs it says it cant find module "ppp-compress-24" -- should I make an alias of this and point it to bsd_comp? Any Help is appreciated. Sincerely, Ryan Icemann -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8036724680046888129==-- From budr@sirinet.net Mon Apr 5 22:50:23 1999 From: budr@sirinet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 17:50:23 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37091833.48C4995C@maptel.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1318473017965827847==" --===============1318473017965827847== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Trevor D. Stevenson" writes: > Newbie question: If one hasn't changed any hardware and there hasn't > been a major change like libc5>libc6, is there any good reason to update > kernels????. In general I would say no. I can only think of 3 or 4 good reasons to upgrade your kernel. 1. New hardware not supported by your present kernel. 2. New software not supported by your present kernel. 3. A security flaw in your present kernel, fixed in a newer version. So far all of my upgrades have been driven by #3. If none of those apply and your present kernel does what you need/want to do, then why upgrade? The only other reason I can think of is 4. For the fun of it. :} --=20 Bud Rogers http://www.sirine= t.net/~budr/zamm.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1318473017965827847==-- From I.McMillan@BTInternet.com Mon Apr 5 23:12:39 1999 From: I.McMillan@BTInternet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] pcmcia card services and kernel 2.2.4 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:12:39 +0100 Message-ID: <37094367.4B80C861@BTInternet.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] pcmcia card services and kernel 2.2.4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4159238671137388603==" --===============4159238671137388603== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Perry wrote: >=20 > Hi gang- >=20 > I just downloaded the 2.2.4 kernel and cannot seem to get pcmcia > services working on suse 6. The documentation stuff says I need the > version of pcmcia services which comes with suse. What do I need to do? >=20 > I have a version of pcmcia services at the 3.0 level also that i > downloaded. Check you have set the PCMCIA variable in the system confguration file. This can be set in Yast. Iain -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4159238671137388603==-- From I.McMillan@BTInternet.com Mon Apr 5 23:13:34 1999 From: I.McMillan@BTInternet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] getting laptop installed with 6.0 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:13:34 +0100 Message-ID: <3709439E.783E4A51@BTInternet.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] getting laptop installed with 6.0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0521922310168892556==" --===============0521922310168892556== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chuck MacKinnon wrote: >=20 > I have not been able to upgrade my laptop from 5.2. > When pcmcia module is loaded memory_cs doesn't get > loaded. So it cannot detect the ethernet card. If > someone could shed some light on this I would > appreciate it. It starts the pcmcia services just > fine...Just can't see the card. I have searched all > over but no luck ;) Check you have set the PCMCIA variable in the system confguration file. This can be set in Yast. Iain -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0521922310168892556==-- From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 6 00:13:27 1999 From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 01:13:27 +0100 Message-ID: <644f3dee48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4620874856390817079==" --===============4620874856390817079== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In message <m2677a4r80.fsf(a)twocups.sirinet.net> Bud Rogers wrote: > In general I would say no. I can only think of 3 or 4 good reasons to > upgrade your kernel. > If none of those apply and your present kernel does what you need/want to > do, then why upgrade? The only other reason I can think of is >=20 > 4. For the fun of it. :} This reason should not be underestimated you know. :-) But here's another: The problem in not upgrading kernels until you're forced to, with such a wonderful OS as Linux (:-)), is that you could be using the same kernel/distribution version for so long, that when something comes along that means you *do* have to upgrade, you have to do a very big upgrade and discover that lots and lots of things have changed just enough to break an interesting amount of the software you're running. It's fine that you don't *have* to upgrade, but I get twitchy if I start to feel that I *can't* upgrade safely. Hence I'm on 2.2.4 even though the masquerading/demand dialling doesn't work as well (which is probably our fault). --=20 Rachel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4620874856390817079==-- From rthompson@motleypc.com Tue Apr 6 00:53:55 1999 From: rthompson@motleypc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 17:53:55 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01be7fc7$f2ab13b0$30e7d8cd@rlt450> In-Reply-To: <37091833.48C4995C@maptel.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1740622604593640934==" --===============1740622604593640934== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Your results are probably skewed by us poor souls that have to use Windows at work (myself included), and use Linux at home. I'm stuck with Outlook here at the office because my desktop is company standard (WinNT/Office). Just thought you might like to take it into account. Rick Thompson > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of Trevor D. Stevenson > Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 1:08 PM > To: SuSE English list. > Subject: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view > > > > Hi all, > After the recent thread on e-Mail clients I thought I would check a > sample of recent postings to this list to see what people actually use, > rather than what they say they like. Here are the results:- > > Mozilla /Linux..........13 Mozilla /Win-x..........5 > Pine /Linux.......... 9 Outlook /Win-x..........5 > KMail /Linux.......... 6 Eudora /Win-x..........2 > Mutt /Linux.......... 4 Pegasus /Win-x..........1 > Xfmail /Linux.......... 3 > Ishmail /Linux.......... 1 Pine4 /Unix...........1 > WebMail /Linux.......... 1 > PMMail /Linux.......... 1 FoxMail /????...........1 > > I am not saying that this is a fair sample nor that it is statistically > valid but it does support a problem I had, that is.- why so many people > are complaining ( on this list ) about Netscape >4 when I have never had > it crash:- it obviously works ok for many people.I use SuSE 5.3//kernel > 2.0.36//X+blackbox (wm). Running multiple copies/ cutting and pasting > messages etc is not a problem as has been posted here :> ). > Newbie question: If one hasn't changed any hardware and there hasn't > been a major change like libc5>libc6, is there any good reason to update > kernels????. > bye Trevor. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1740622604593640934==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Tue Apr 6 01:00:11 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 and masquerading. Works, but... Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 03:00:11 +0200 Message-ID: <37095C9B.200FACE3@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <3709322F.7CF0592B@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6274838818746758234==" --===============6274838818746758234== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hhv wrote: >=20 > "Robert C. Paulsen, Jr." wrote: >=20 > > If you mean "/sbin/ipfwadm-wrapper", yes, I have that file but it >=20 > Sorry, can't tell you more about that. I've never used it. I only > knew, that it was there and what was its purpose. >=20 > But if I were you, I would copy ipchains to a safe place and rename the Oh, sorry this should say _ipfwadm_ , not ipchains. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6274838818746758234==-- From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 01:01:11 1999 From: chuckwm_98@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 18:01:11 -0700 Message-ID: <19990406010111.16561.rocketmail@web222.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3187699444307580240==" --===============3187699444307580240== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > Hence I'm on 2.2.4 even though the > masquerading/demand dialling doesn't work > as well (which is probably our fault). Not sure about the dialling in part...but the masquerading is working fine in 2.2.5 -- Chuck _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3187699444307580240==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 6 01:33:38 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] There's no place like GNOME Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:33:38 -0400 Message-ID: <37096472.42F7E1A8@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2174347573224726308==" --===============2174347573224726308== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good comprehensive assessment of Gnome. Fred ___________________ http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-04/lw-04-pe= nguin1.html?04-05> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2174347573224726308==-- From adcarlso@visinet.ca Tue Apr 6 01:43:33 1999 From: adcarlso@visinet.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Re: R: 3D cards Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:43:33 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Re: R: 3D cards> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3299002334949837132==" --===============3299002334949837132== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25-Mar-99 Pedro Timoteo wrote: >=20 > Germano Rizzo wrote: >>=20 >> >Both nVidia and 3dfx have promised "full" 3D for Linux / XFree86 in the >> >future, but until then, I have to use Windoze for games. >> >-- >> Are u sure that, even after this, you will change platform for games? A >> 3D support doesn't mean that games will be ported to Linux, considered that >> it's still not spread enough between home users, and that the 900f games >> are built over Direct3D... I don't think that M$oft will port DirectX to L= in >> (I doubt it would be possible, either), nor that Electronic Arts etc. will >> translate the code for UNIX with the perspective of selling not more than >> 50'000 copies of a game for this platform... If you successfully use win to >> play, what could make them suppose you want to change this situation? >=20 > You're right. There'll (almost surely) never be a D3D for Linux, and it > probably will never replace Win9x as a gaming platform. > However, when the time comes when you can buy any 3D card (3dfx, nVidia, > ATI, Matrox, etc.) and be sure that it'll be fully OpenGL accelerated in > Linux (or in XFree86 itself), things may begin to change. > -- But I wonder whether Linux being the development platform for the Playstation 2, will change it into becoming the defacto standard for gaming. ----------------------------------- Arlen Carlson Rule of the Great: When people you greatly admire appear to be thinking deep thoughts, they probably are thinking about lunch. This message was sent by XFmail (Linux) -o) /\\ _\_v The penguins are coming... the penguins are coming... ----------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3299002334949837132==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Tue Apr 6 01:44:59 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape & Netscape version 3.04 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 20:44:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3709671B.C0EE9DB8@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <199904050546.WAA19987@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0433089320752653106==" --===============0433089320752653106== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Perry wrote: >=20 > On 4 Apr, W.D.McKinney wrote: > > Try, > > > > = h= ttp://home.netscape.com/download/archive/client_index2.html> > > > > Best Regards > > Dee > > >=20 > Most excellent!!! Thanks much. > -- Are these time-limited versions? --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0433089320752653106==-- From chrisdunn@jamweb.net Tue Apr 6 01:48:30 1999 From: chrisdunn@jamweb.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice 5 on SuSE 6.0 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 20:48:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0813139501930386392==" --===============0813139501930386392== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having just installed SuSE 6.0, mainly to get glibc2 availability for StarOffice 5.0, I've just become aware of some incompatibility issues.=20 It seems that while both SuSE and StarOffice use glibc 2.0.7, the version supplied with SuSE is different (and newer?) than the 2.0.7 supplied with StarOffice and mandated for use with SO5. Some additional libraries are supplied with SO5 and these do not seem to present any problems. However the SuSE and SO5 versions of : libBrokenLocale-2.0.7.so, and libpthread are in different versions in SuSE and SO5.=20 Also the linker ld-2.0.7.so is supplied in a different version with each programme. SO5 insist that their version of these libraries and the link= er should be used with SO5, but I can find no way of installing using their libraries without tampering with things on my SuSE installation which I fear = may corrupt SuSE. Has anybody successfully overcome these issues? Pointers would be greatly appreciated. -------------------------------------------- Chris Dunn -------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0813139501930386392==-- From dno@blueskyweb.com Tue Apr 6 01:54:36 1999 From: dno@blueskyweb.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] rdist Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:54:36 -0400 Message-ID: <00a101be7fd0$6dcc8e40$2283a6d1@dnohomepc> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] rdist> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3594054078073693089==" --===============3594054078073693089== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I have had problems like this on other -ux machines, the .rhosts file in roots home directory should either have a mode of 644, or it may be more restrictive and require a mode of 444. Dan. -----Original Message----- From: Silvia Nieto To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: Monday, April 05, 1999 7:24 AM Subject: [SuSE Linux] rdist > >Hello, > > I have problems with rsh and root user, you can say me that I had o >allowed a remote access ( ROOT_LOGIN_REMOTE=3D"yes" ), I have written the >remote hosts in /etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.equiv, and in /root/.rhosts, but >I can=C5=BDt use rlogin, rsh, rcp, ... with root user. > > My problem is that I want to use rdist to maintain identical copies >of files over two hosts, and root is the owner of these files. How can I >use rdist if I'm root user ? > > Thank you > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3594054078073693089==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 6 02:08:00 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice 5 on SuSE 6.0 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:08:00 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1123807124783821269==" --===============1123807124783821269== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Chris Dunn wrote: > Also the linker ld-2.0.7.so is supplied in a different version with > each programme. SO5 insist that their version of these libraries and the li= nker > should be used with SO5, but I can find no way of installing using their > libraries without tampering with things on my SuSE installation which I fea= r may > corrupt SuSE. >=20 > Has anybody successfully overcome these issues? Pointers would be greatly > appreciated. No. And what I don't understand is, why do the StarDivision people even bother giving you those libraries anyway? I mean, they want you to set the library path to include their library directory -- and *first* in the path -- therefore, if some program you want to run was compiiled for a different libc version, it won't. What they *should* have done was write a script which copies the current library path into a new variable, changes it, runs the install/office-suite ; changes it back. Any flaws in my logic? If not, try it out. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1123807124783821269==-- From sinthetk@inlink.com Tue Apr 6 02:58:54 1999 From: sinthetk@inlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice 5 on SuSE 6.0 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:58:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3709786E.28F7254@inlink.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6163817483873105839==" --===============6163817483873105839== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hiya, One does not have to install any lib files that stardivision packages with the downloadable StarOffice 5 if you have SuSE 6.0. I installed the version off the SuSE 6.0 cd and it worked fine, I then later ordered the Deluxe version with the filter updates from Stardivision. I ordered it partly because I have a connection that makes downloading 65+ megs a pain in the bum...and partly because anyone who makes nice apps for Linux I want to support. I never minded paying a fair price for good software, I switched to Linux because I was tired of unstable crapware. SOffice 5.0+filter updates works fine..no new lib files installed. If you have 6.0, don't worry about it..those libs are for people who have older distros. just my 0.02 :) laters, > On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Chris Dunn wrote: > > Also the linker ld-2.0.7.so is supplied in a different version with > > each programme. SO5 insist that their version of these libraries and the = linker > > should be used with SO5, but I can find no way of installing using their > > libraries without tampering with things on my SuSE installation which I f= ear may > > corrupt SuSE. > > > > Has anybody successfully overcome these issues? Pointers would be greatly > > appreciated. >=20 > No. And what I don't understand is, why do the StarDivision people even > bother giving you those libraries anyway? I mean, they want you to set the > library path to include their library directory -- and *first* in the path > -- therefore, if some program you want to run was compiiled for a > different libc version, it won't. What they *should* have done was write a > script which copies the current library path into a new variable, changes > it, runs the install/office-suite ; changes it back. Any flaws in my > logic? If not, try it out. --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)inlink.com " Powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6163817483873105839==-- From budr@sirinet.net Tue Apr 6 03:20:43 1999 From: budr@sirinet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:20:43 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <644f3dee48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2800364425531714980==" --===============2800364425531714980== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rachel Greenham writes: > > 4. For the fun of it. :} >=20 > This reason should not be underestimated you know. :-) Quite true. Actually, that's the best reason of all. :} >=20 > But here's another: The problem in not upgrading kernels until you're forced > to, with such a wonderful OS as Linux (:-)), is that you could be using the > same kernel/distribution version for so long, that when something comes alo= ng > that means you *do* have to upgrade, you have to do a very big upgrade and > discover that lots and lots of things have changed just enough to break an > interesting amount of the software you're running. Absolutely true. And that's about where I am now. I have silt in the bottom of /usr/local going back to Slackware 2.something. I'm starting to get excited about glibc and 2.2.x. But I've made the decision that, rather than rolling another layer over the ruins and trying to fix everything that breaks, I'm gonna do a scorched earth upgrade next time. As in repartition the drives and start from scratch. But that's not something I want to try to do in an afternoon -- I'll have to pick a time when I have time to do it right... --=20 Bud Rogers http://www.sirine= t.net/~budr/zamm.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2800364425531714980==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 6 03:23:59 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Linux operating system makes inroads but lags behind rivals Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 23:23:59 -0400 Message-ID: <37097E4F.98773B1D@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8640889378793141376==" --===============8640889378793141376== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 'Need to read all of this one...not just the title. Fred ___________________ http://www.msnbc.com/news/256197.asp> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8640889378793141376==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Tue Apr 6 04:57:38 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux operating system makes inroads but lags behind rivals Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:57:38 -0400 Message-ID: <37099442.3BB72154@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> In-Reply-To: <37097E4F.98773B1D@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3480909692764738919==" --===============3480909692764738919== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable use SOAPBOX qw(:opinion) print start_soapbox, I really like this one 'cause it presents a challenge to the Linux community. I really get sick of the always sunny-side up attitudes of some Linux folks. As long as people realize that Linux has a long way to go, and are willing to invest of themselves for the long haul, there is no beating Linux. Right now I am only skirting around the fringes of Linux development. My biggest contributions so far are cheer leading and code breaking. Must admit I don't fully understand what was said about multiprocessor machines. I was under the impression that Linux had been adapted to run on multiple processors. I also don't fully understand the logging issues. Does anybody understand what this alleged shortcoming is? To me the biggest obstacle to broad based acceptance of Linux is ease of use. Yes the core technological growth needs of continue, but Linux is technologically sound enough to satisfy the needs of most desktop users. Bill has the desktop because he gave the world what they wanted, and because of IBM's open systems architecture contribution to computing put him in a position to "monopolize" on his advantage. Ease of use does not stop at Dad's desktop. We SA'a like easy to use and configuration tools as well. And when a manager can get something of a feeling that even *he* could understand Linux if he really tried, then management will get behind Linux. In the final analysis (the appearance of) productivity is what matters. If it takes 45 minutes to set up an NT server to do basic networking, and two days to figure out Linux, NT will win. The other front that Linux need help on is hardware vendor support. Why the heck should the vendors build the parts for BG's OSs and not for Linux? Imagine you could go to the website of the manufacturer of your printer and download the latest printer drivers for their product. I know Linux is doing very well indeed without this kind of assistance, but suppose the guys hacking the lattest module for the lattest video card were out there hacking KDE code instead! end_soapbox; Steve "Fred A. Miller" wrote: > 'Need to read all of this one...not just the title. > > Fred > ___________________ > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/256197.asp> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- http:/= /www.winehq.com> | I think. http://www= .suse.com> | I think I am. http://www.k= de.org> | Therefore I am. ht= tp://samba.anu.edu.au> | I think? - Moody Blues -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3480909692764738919==-- From mperry@basin.com Tue Apr 6 05:26:02 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] pilot-link and pilot programs Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:26:02 -0700 Message-ID: <199904060526.WAA22630@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7654600384808597511==" --===============7654600384808597511== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am getting a palm pilot 5 quite soon and am naturally interested in maximizing my use by synching and moving data around with linux. In the interests of fostering discussion and perhaps hearing from someone who has done this, I would be quite interested in any users who may have used pilot-link, pilotmanager, ical, or any of the other pilot capable programs. I plan on using the pilot on my laptop primarily so I dont have to carry that 10 pounder wherever I go :) What I would like: * a central application to read and write addressbooks, calendars, todo lists (ical seems close overall since pilot-link can write ical files) * a tool to manage synching such as what pilotmanager does. Anybody using pilotmanager out there? How about gnome pilot? Kpilot? I have installed and used kpilot and its slick. It does synching through a conduit assignment and also integrates with korganizer. Ideally, I would like one program to do it all. With my windowsce device, outlook does it all. I must admit to it doing it quite well too. * finally I would like an idea about how functional the various applications are. I have to prepare our office for moving to pilots first at the VP level. Needless to say we all use linux. Primarily redhatted ones, caldera ones, and an ever growing population of SuSE. I appreciate comments, urls... Anything you can think of that will help me. I dont particularly want to standardize on kpilot/korganizer. WE have had stability issues with kpilot not running under kde. Many of our senior staff do not wish to run kde whatsoever. Their desktop of choice is a windowmaker desktop with fancy themes and gtk applications running or whatever. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7654600384808597511==-- From Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net Tue Apr 6 05:37:43 1999 From: Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:37:43 -0700 Message-ID: <37099DA7.552A8B78@gte.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5396586381341951844==" --===============5396586381341951844== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I run Netscape under NT I routinely see it display on the status line that it is cleaning up N cache files. I agree that it can be a memory hog but seeing that my Linux workstation has 128MB of memory I don't really notice this very often. I use Netscape daily as my primary email client and web brower and I have found it to be pretty stable. The only time I have problems is when I hit a page that loads some sort of Java applet. Most of the time Java stuff runs fine but other times it either crashes or at least causes the UI to hang and so I'm force to kill it. "Paul M. Foster" wrote: >=20 > Theory 3: >=20 > Memory, and lots of it. I can completely understand why someone with 256M > would have no problems, since Netscape is a well-known memory hog. It > would appear that no one built in graceful compensation for low memory > situations in Netscape. I don't know, but I wonder if Netscape tries to > keep some of its cached stuff in memory as well as on disk. My wife, > running Win95, has similar problems and can solve them only by killing > cache items or restarting Netscape. I've heard similar things on this > list as well, under Linux. >=20 > Paul M. Foster >=20 > On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, MongrZ wrote: >=20 > > > > Well...here is theory two: > > All the programmers at Netscape use Matrox boards! > > Since Benjamin and I both have Matrox boards...and neither have any probl= ems. > > :-) > > > > However I'm now using a Riva TNT.....with no diffuculties thus far. It's= not > > that I'm not pushing Netscape as hard as the next guy.....I do alot of su= rfing > > and the browser is open for hours at a time. > > > > Rick Thompson > > > > Ralph Clark wrote: > > > > > Rick Thompson wrote: > > > > > > > You're not special ;-) > > > > I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite some time= . I do > > > > get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by and large it= works > > > > reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape ftp site. I = think > > > > your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is probably = dead > > > > on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) and maybe = that's > > > > why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be having. H= ow > > > > about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems? > > > > > > It's not the video hardware. I've had the same problems with all Commun= icator > > > 4.x using an ancient S3 5426 board, an ancient ET4000, an ATI Mach 64 > > > Xpert(a)Play AGP and an STB Velocity 128 AGP (Nvidia Riva). That's on L= inux-FT, > > >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Tony --=20 Anthony.Schlemmer(a)gte.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5396586381341951844==-- From paulf@quillandmouse.com Tue Apr 6 06:00:35 1999 From: paulf@quillandmouse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 02:00:35 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370926CB.408229A3@mongrz.tzo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2922327378516352335==" --===============2922327378516352335== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Theory 3: Memory, and lots of it. I can completely understand why someone with 256M would have no problems, since Netscape is a well-known memory hog. It would appear that no one built in graceful compensation for low memory situations in Netscape. I don't know, but I wonder if Netscape tries to keep some of its cached stuff in memory as well as on disk. My wife, running Win95, has similar problems and can solve them only by killing cache items or restarting Netscape. I've heard similar things on this list as well, under Linux. Paul M. Foster On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, MongrZ wrote: >=20 > Well...here is theory two: > All the programmers at Netscape use Matrox boards! > Since Benjamin and I both have Matrox boards...and neither have any problem= s. > :-) >=20 > However I'm now using a Riva TNT.....with no diffuculties thus far. It's n= ot > that I'm not pushing Netscape as hard as the next guy.....I do alot of surf= ing > and the browser is open for hours at a time. >=20 > Rick Thompson >=20 > Ralph Clark wrote: >=20 > > Rick Thompson wrote: > > > > > You're not special ;-) > > > I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite some time. = I do > > > get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by and large it w= orks > > > reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape ftp site. I th= ink > > > your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is probably de= ad > > > on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) and maybe th= at's > > > why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be having. How > > > about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems? > > > > It's not the video hardware. I've had the same problems with all Communic= ator > > 4.x using an ancient S3 5426 board, an ancient ET4000, an ATI Mach 64 > > Xpert(a)Play AGP and an STB Velocity 128 AGP (Nvidia Riva). That's on Lin= ux-FT, >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2922327378516352335==-- From venrooij@casema.net Tue Apr 6 07:53:07 1999 From: venrooij@casema.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] kernel modules loading Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:53:07 +0200 Message-ID: <3709BD63.DA1444C7@casema.net> In-Reply-To: <199904042039.QAA25771@gti.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4888655602686793179==" --===============4888655602686793179== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable norrisd wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Recently, I upgraded from v2.0.36 kernel to the 2.2.5 kernel. I che= cked the prerequisites > regarding libraries, bin utilities, linker, etc. all seemed OK. > I grabbed the 2.2.5 tar.gz package and followed the install instruc= tions. I had to do three > attempts to get PPP support; dispite choosing " y " when the option= appeared in the config > menu sequence, before PPP support showed up in my 'messages'. > Each time I have attempted to get sound card support and have not y= et gotten there. > I have looked at the HOWTO's and I found documentation in the kerne= l sources .../Documentation/ > sound/, which told me to put > ' alias sound sb > options sb io=3D0x220 irq=3D5 dma=3D1 > and so forth, > but I thought configuring the modules in the kernel config took car= e of this /etc/modules.conf ? > Am I wrong?=20 I am afraid so. Sometimes you have to edit conf.modules yourself. If you do not want this, hardcode the driver into the kernel instead of building it as a module. Then you do not have to specify options like this in conf.modules. >Are the configuration scripts working properly? Yes they are... for kernel 2.0.36 that is. There simply is no way to know beforehand what changes are going to be made in a new stable kernel release. Tim. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4888655602686793179==-- From venrooij@casema.net Tue Apr 6 07:58:43 1999 From: venrooij@casema.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Strange PPP problems... Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:58:43 +0200 Message-ID: <3709BEB3.71F63887@casema.net> In-Reply-To: <370932A1.50BE5E49@thuntek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5039190249576851780==" --===============5039190249576851780== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ryan wrote: >=20 > And one more question, when the script runs it says it cant find module > "ppp-compress-24" -- should I make an alias of this and point it to > bsd_comp? >=20 You could try defining the following aliasses in /etc/conf.modules: alias ppp-compress-1 off alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate Tim. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5039190249576851780==-- From Stefano.Papini@intercai.etnoteam.it Tue Apr 6 08:05:52 1999 From: Stefano.Papini@intercai.etnoteam.it To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] CD Rom black out Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:05:52 +0200 Message-ID: <1B13329AC46DD211AABA00104BB904F75AC2@mercurio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7179484633050695780==" --===============7179484633050695780== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Title: CD Rom black out
Hi, got a strange problem.
After trying to install a net card, my cdrom is no more se= en by 5.3.
It is (was) mapped on hdc, at boot I get "hdc NOT RESPONDI= NG"
Yet the cd "sounds", when I attach my headphones, and the = cables are connected.
the same problem under the terrible windows... any idea?
only a cable problem or something in the bios?
but isn't linux kernel skipping the bios?
Any help is deeply welcome!
Bye.

Stefano

--===============7179484633050695780==-- From TXDELBAE@ctrl.co.uk Tue Apr 6 08:24:48 1999 From: TXDELBAE@ctrl.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] KDE rpm's Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:24:48 +0100 Message-ID: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B99DC@ctrl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6369108369897831484==" --===============6369108369897831484== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have had someone at work download all 85 MB of the KDE rpms from SuSE, but I am unsure what ones to use. There are some labelled '1.1-1', '1.1pre2-0', and some '1.1-pre2-3'. What are all these versions for...... Thanks for your help. Cheers Tim Delbaere. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at
<= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6369108369897831484==-- From venrooij@casema.net Tue Apr 6 10:09:09 1999 From: venrooij@casema.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KDE rpm's Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:09:09 +0200 Message-ID: <3709DD45.6BBFE55@casema.net> In-Reply-To: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B99DC@ctrl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4658819826966714735==" --===============4658819826966714735== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, Use the plain "-1.1-" versions: these are based on the stable 1.1 release and are the most recent. The rpms with "pre" in their name are so-called pre-releases. Good luck, Tim (yeah, that's right). -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4658819826966714735==-- From Johan.Olofsson@telia.com Tue Apr 6 10:18:30 1999 From: Johan.Olofsson@telia.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] drivers Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:18:30 +0200 Message-ID: <4.1.19990406121207.010e4200@m1.392.telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3486079210392604769==" --===============3486079210392604769== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking for Drivers for my networkadapter: Dlink DFE-530TX been looking at the Dlink website but can't find anything :( hope to get your help answer privately if this has been dealt with 1000 times :) -Johan- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3486079210392604769==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Tue Apr 6 10:56:29 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] XF Mail not working with WV Dial Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:56:29 +0100 Message-ID: <199904061056.LAA30056@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7660107497374940224==" --===============7660107497374940224== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi This is a good one :-) I've got XF Mail working again and now when I dial up with Kppp it=20 works fine. However, when I dialup with WVdial I get an error=20 message that says that the mailhost doesn't exist. Same with Kmail. Any ideas about this one ? Thanks Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7660107497374940224==-- From tsteven@maptel.es Tue Apr 6 11:17:15 1999 From: tsteven@maptel.es To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Missed one! ( e-mail clients ) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:17:15 +0200 Message-ID: <3709ED3B.A1585608@maptel.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7017845815816210547==" --===============7017845815816210547== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In message <37091833.48C4995C(a)maptel.es> "Trevor D. Stevenson" wrote: >> Hi all, >> After the recent thread on e-Mail clients I thought I would check a >> sample of recent postings to this list to see what people actually use, >> rather than what they say they like. Here are the results:- > Hmph. You missed the one I'm using. :-) Sorry Rachel :-[ Messenger-Pro/1.81//RISC-OS 3.70.........1 That better ;-} Bye Trevor. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7017845815816210547==-- From aspicht@knox-software.com Tue Apr 6 12:15:26 1999 From: aspicht@knox-software.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] drivers Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:15:26 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990406121207.010e4200@m1.392.telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4637040023118363346==" --===============4637040023118363346== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Johan, I've got the same card. You have to use the via-rhine driver. It works perfectly. Arnaud On 06-Apr-99 Johan wrote: >=20 > Looking for Drivers for my networkadapter: >=20 > Dlink DFE-530TX >=20 > been looking at the Dlink website but can't find anything :( >=20 > hope to get your help >=20 > answer privately if this has been dealt with 1000 times :) >=20 > -Johan- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4637040023118363346==-- From chrisdunn@jamweb.net Tue Apr 6 12:45:02 1999 From: chrisdunn@jamweb.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice 5 on SuSE 6.0 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 07:45:02 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3709786E.28F7254@inlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5778495092698227849==" --===============5778495092698227849== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Benjamin, Thanks for the input, but sorry, but this does not work for me. Initially SO5 setup reports a heap of missing libraries and set up exits. Wh= en I extract the missing libraries from the SO5/glibc2 package the problem is partially resolved. However, SO5 setup does not recognise the existing SuSE version of the libraries libBrokenLocale and libpthread. Setting links to the SuSES libraries as though they are the ones SO5 setup is searching for does not help as SO5 setup refuses to recognise them. Your reference to "the version off the SuSE cd rings an alarm bell. My SO5 is not from the SuSE cd but from another (cd) source. Presumably the SO5 version= on the SuSE cd is cleansed for use with SuSE. Now, how to get hold of a copy of that?=20 Is it worth the effort? Chris Dunn On 06-Apr-99 Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote: >=20 > hiya, >=20 >=20 > One does not have to install any lib files that stardivision packages > with the downloadable StarOffice 5 if you have SuSE 6.0. I installed the > version off the SuSE 6.0 cd and it worked fine, I then later ordered the > Deluxe version with the filter updates from Stardivision. I ordered it > partly because I have a connection that makes downloading 65+ megs a > pain in the bum...and partly because anyone who makes nice apps for > Linux I want to support. I never minded paying a fair price for good > software, I switched to Linux because I was tired of unstable crapware. > SOffice 5.0+filter updates works fine..no new lib files installed. > If you have 6.0, don't worry about it..those libs are for people who > have older distros. >=20 > just my 0.02 :) >=20 > laters, >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Chris Dunn wrote: >> > Also the linker ld-2.0.7.so is supplied in a different version with >> > each programme. SO5 insist that their version of these libraries and the >> > linker >> > should be used with SO5, but I can find no way of installing using their >> > libraries without tampering with things on my SuSE installation which I >> > fear may >> > corrupt SuSE. >> > >> > Has anybody successfully overcome these issues? Pointers would be greatly >> > appreciated. >>=20 >> No. And what I don't understand is, why do the StarDivision people even >> bother giving you those libraries anyway? I mean, they want you to set the >> library path to include their library directory -- and *first* in the path >> -- therefore, if some program you want to run was compiiled for a >> different libc version, it won't. What they *should* have done was write a >> script which copies the current library path into a new variable, changes >> it, runs the install/office-suite ; changes it back. Any flaws in my >> logic? If not, try it out. >=20 > --=20 > Ben Rosenberg > mailto:sinthetk(a)inlink.com > " Powered by SuSE Linux " > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5778495092698227849==-- From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 6 12:50:41 1999 From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:50:41 +0100 Message-ID: <35a382ee48.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <370926CB.408229A3@mongrz.tzo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1819962759548318767==" --===============1819962759548318767== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In message <370926CB.408229A3(a)mongrz.tzo.com> MongrZ wrote: >=20 > Well...here is theory two: > All the programmers at Netscape use Matrox boards! > Since Benjamin and I both have Matrox boards...and neither have any > problems. :-) Nope, that's not it. I have a Matrox board as well, and had no end of problems. --=20 Rachel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1819962759548318767==-- From beamanj@novaquest.com Tue Apr 6 12:55:58 1999 From: beamanj@novaquest.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 (kernel 2.0.36) and ALS200 Sound card Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 05:55:58 -0700 Message-ID: <002501be802c$d2fc77b0$85bfd6cf@defiant.starfleet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5119824125453977273==" --===============5119824125453977273== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello:
I have=20 trying to configure my ALS200 sound card with SuSE 6.0 to no avail. I have=20 tried configuring it with isapnp.conf, which sees all of the logical devices = and=20 enables them. But after I have configured the card as a Sound Blaster=20 compatible (which I believe it is) in the kernel, it still doesn't work. =20 Then I tried the OSS that comes free with SuSE, and while it could not=20 autodetect anything, it loaded the Sound Blaster driver with no error=20 messages. The problem, however, is that even then, the card does not=20 work. It works under Win98, and I know that I got the same card to work=20 under SuSE 5.3 a while back, but I can't for the life of me, remember how, or= =20 maybe things have changed?
PLEASE=20 HELP!
--===============5119824125453977273==-- From e.maryniak@pobox.com Tue Apr 6 12:57:30 1999 From: e.maryniak@pobox.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Eudora like e-mail programs for Linux Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:57:30 +0200 Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990406145730.009e2aa0@ip005.niwi.knaw.nl> In-Reply-To: <3709ED3B.A1585608@maptel.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8887307973944442239==" --===============8887307973944442239== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There's a nice overview of e-mail clients (and mta's etc.) for Linux on:
http://www.xnet.com/~blatura/= linapp4.html#mail> If you're looking for an Eudora replacement, imho the most likely candidates are, a/o, XFMail, XCMail, Postilion, Ishmail ($). The new and promising mailer "Empath" is missing, but then it's still in snapshot fase: http://without.netpedia.net/empath.html> I haven't had any luck in running Eudora Pro 3.05 under Wine so far (SuSE 6.0= ), and I have given up on that. I guess I'll just go the lazy way and use VMWare (htt= p://www.vmware.com/>) and run Eudora in a Win98 box under Linux, toget= her with PFE, my favorite ascii editor (http://ww= w.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/>) (yes, i use xemacs, too :-) I may be very wrong here, but it's too bad that Wine hasn't advanced more, despite the recent "joining" of Corels programmers (have they actually checked in code to Wine yet?) and despite the admirable efforts of the Wine programme= rs. By running vmware i'm still going to pay the Bill, but i'm just too stuck on Eudora, it's handy filters, split-window overview and keys have grown into my spinal nerve over the last six years :-) Eric -- Eric Maryniak Home page: http://pobox.com/~e.maryniak/> Netherlands Institute for Scientific Information Services (NIWI) Tel/Fax: +31 20 4628650/6685079. Internet: http://www.niwi.knaw.nl/> Real programmers don't use COBOL. COBOL is for wimpy application programmers. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8887307973944442239==-- From beamanj@novaquest.com Tue Apr 6 13:24:00 1999 From: beamanj@novaquest.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] two CD-ROM drives Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 06:24:00 -0700 Message-ID: <002a01be8030$bcb33800$85bfd6cf@defiant.starfleet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1590534756641424816==" --===============1590534756641424816== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello:
I have=20 an EIDE ATAPI CD-ROM, and a SCSI CD-Burner/ROM. Both drives are=20 recognized, but not at the same time... How do I make it so that I can=20 access both drives at the same time? (for example, I should be able to copy a= =20 CD, or play music on one cd, and browse on another)
Thanks.
--===============1590534756641424816==-- From beamanj@novaquest.com Tue Apr 6 14:56:33 1999 From: beamanj@novaquest.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] RedHat's sndconfig tool Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 07:56:33 -0700 Message-ID: <003101be803d$a9ef1150$85bfd6cf@defiant.starfleet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6505884691492860705==" --===============6505884691492860705== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has=20 anyone tried RedHat's sndconfig tool under SuSE 6.0? Anyone have any reasons = why=20 this may or may not work?
--===============6505884691492860705==-- From Clifford@isa.co.uk Tue Apr 6 15:41:46 1999 From: Clifford@isa.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] RedHat's sndconfig tool Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:41:46 +0100 Message-ID: <0342C335FF32D2118F6E0020AFC050E50C768F@MERLIN> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] RedHat's sndconfig tool> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1163605627664488137==" --===============1163605627664488137== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know someone who tried but couldn't get it to work. However, he sadly gave up on SuSE and wnet back to Red Hat. :-( -----Original Message----- From: beamanj(a)novaquest.com [
mai= lto:beamanj(a)novaquest.com] Sent: 06 April 1999 15:57 To: SuSE E-mail List (E-mail) Subject: [SuSE Linux] RedHat's sndconfig tool Has anyone tried RedHat's sndconfig tool under SuSE 6.0? Anyone have any reasons why this may or may not work? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1163605627664488137==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Tue Apr 6 15:45:35 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:45:35 +0200 Message-ID: <370A2C1F.D2674A3F@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1477016420487722588==" --===============1477016420487722588== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Paul M. Foster" wrote: >=20 > Theory 3: >=20 > Memory, and lots of it. I can completely understand why someone with 256M > would have no problems, since Netscape is a well-known memory hog. It > would appear that no one built in graceful compensation for low memory > situations in Netscape. I don't know, but I wonder if Netscape tries to > keep some of its cached stuff in memory as well as on disk. My wife, > running Win95, has similar problems and can solve them only by killing > cache items or restarting Netscape. I've heard similar things on this > list as well, under Linux. >=20 I ran Netscape (4.0x) on my old 486/DX4-100, 32 MB RAM, ~54 MB swap, VESA Local Bus, Elsa Winner 100 VL graphics (S3 Chipset, 1MB RAM) without obvious stability trouble (apart from this mentioned memory problem). Though I have a Millenium II now, I realy do not trust it. Sometimes my screen blackens for a fraction of a second and returns normal. With SuSE 5.3, my system crashed occasionally when restarting xdm/kdm (logout of X). Though this blackening was there too, that crashing stopped thankfully. Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1477016420487722588==-- From rthompson@motleypc.com Tue Apr 6 15:48:15 1999 From: rthompson@motleypc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 08:48:15 -0700 Message-ID: <000501be8044$e23b4860$30e7d8cd@rlt450> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2435144748471264625==" --===============2435144748471264625== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What do you consider "lots" of memory? more than 32? 16? Machine 1: Server: 233MMX/64MB Matrox Mill1 4MB ---- no problems Machine 2: WS: 450PII/128MB Riva TNT 16MB ---- no problems While machine 2 is most likely in your "lots" of memory category...I don't consider 64MB to be all that much. I do some 3D modeling and rendering...so I consider "lots" of memory to be 256+. We regularly use machines here at work with 512MB. :-) I still think its most likely the video chipset causing at least part of the problem. S3, ATI, Tseng all have had wacky windows problems....I would expect the same of any xservers on them. I've never had any problems with the Mill...and once the latest Xfree was released with TNT support...I haven't had any problems with it either. Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of Paul M. Foster > Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 11:01 PM > To: rthompson(a)motleypc.com > Cc: SuSE List (English) > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape > > > > > > Theory 3: > > Memory, and lots of it. I can completely understand why someone with 256M > would have no problems, since Netscape is a well-known memory hog. It > would appear that no one built in graceful compensation for low memory > situations in Netscape. I don't know, but I wonder if Netscape tries to > keep some of its cached stuff in memory as well as on disk. My wife, > running Win95, has similar problems and can solve them only by killing > cache items or restarting Netscape. I've heard similar things on this > list as well, under Linux. > > Paul M. Foster > > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, MongrZ wrote: > > > > > Well...here is theory two: > > All the programmers at Netscape use Matrox boards! > > Since Benjamin and I both have Matrox boards...and neither have > any problems. > > :-) > > > > However I'm now using a Riva TNT.....with no diffuculties thus > far. It's not > > that I'm not pushing Netscape as hard as the next guy.....I do > alot of surfing > > and the browser is open for hours at a time. > > > > Rick Thompson > > > > Ralph Clark wrote: > > > > > Rick Thompson wrote: > > > > > > > You're not special ;-) > > > > I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite > some time. I do > > > > get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by > and large it works > > > > reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape > ftp site. I think > > > > your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is > probably dead > > > > on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) > and maybe that's > > > > why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be > having. How > > > > about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems? > > > > > > It's not the video hardware. I've had the same problems with > all Communicator > > > 4.x using an ancient S3 5426 board, an ancient ET4000, an ATI Mach 64 > > > Xpert(a)Play AGP and an STB Velocity 128 AGP (Nvidia Riva). > That's on Linux-FT, > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2435144748471264625==-- From lrivas@oxiquim.cl Tue Apr 6 16:00:23 1999 From: lrivas@oxiquim.cl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] KDE on SuSE 5.1 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:00:23 -0200 Message-ID: <8325674B.00526C8D.00@oxinotes.oxiquim.cl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7917250250595330288==" --===============7917250250595330288== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, im new on this list, and im looking for information about KDE on SuSE 5.1, Ive been searching the KDE Site, but found information only about KDE and SuSE 5.3 or 6.0. May i install KDE on this SuSE 5.1? Thanks LeoR -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7917250250595330288==-- From andyford@nothnbut.net Tue Apr 6 17:59:51 1999 From: andyford@nothnbut.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] two CD-ROM drives Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:59:51 -0500 Message-ID: <19990406125951.A27013@dave.ford.saint-louis.mo.us> In-Reply-To: <002a01be8030$bcb33800$85bfd6cf@defiant.starfleet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6235083699818138654==" --===============6235083699818138654== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 06:24:00AM -0700, Joseph Beaman wrote: > Hello: >=20 > I have an EIDE ATAPI CD-ROM, and a SCSI CD-Burner/ROM. Both drives are > recognized, but not at the same time... How do I make it so that I can > access both drives at the same time? (for example, I should be able to copy > a CD, or play music on one cd, and browse on another) >=20 > Thanks. What exactly do you mean "not recognized"? I use two CD players, but only one can be /dev/cdrom. To get to a second one I have to tell each particular app to look at it if it's not the one linked to /dev/cdrom. Say like wmcdplay -d /dev/hdd. (That is an entirely fictitious example). does that make sense? yours, andy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6235083699818138654==-- From ryanak@thuntek.net Tue Apr 6 20:24:39 1999 From: ryanak@thuntek.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Strange PPP problems... Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:24:39 -0600 Message-ID: <370A6D86.F799DC34@thuntek.net> In-Reply-To: <3709BEB3.71F63887@casema.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3176362841310091332==" --===============3176362841310091332== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tim van Venrooij wrote: >=20 > Ryan wrote: > > > > And one more question, when the script runs it says it cant find module > > "ppp-compress-24" -- should I make an alias of this and point it to > > bsd_comp? > > >=20 > You could try defining the following aliasses in /etc/conf.modules: >=20 > alias ppp-compress-1 off > alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp > alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate > alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate >=20 > Tim. > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> I have to admit, I normally read all the docs I can, but this time I didn't. I did read them today and have the problem fixed. Sorry for the inconvience. Ryan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3176362841310091332==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Tue Apr 6 20:41:17 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Eudora like e-mail programs for Linux Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 21:41:17 +0100 Message-ID: <199904062041.VAA31751@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990406145730.009e2aa0@ip005.niwi.knaw.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8730961603455176703==" --===============8730961603455176703== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eric On 6 Apr 99, at 14:57, Eric Maryniak wrote: > If you're looking for an Eudora replacement, imho the most likely > candidates are, a/o, XFMail, XCMail, Postilion, Ishmail ($). The new and > promising mailer "Empath" is missing, but then it's still in snapshot > fase: > http://without.netpedia.net/empath.html> >=20 I've just downloaded and used XC Mail. Best X11 mail program I've=20 seen so far. I thought XF Mail was really good until I saw this one=20 :-) It's even found my XF Mail folders and allowed me access to=20 them. > I haven't had any luck in running Eudora Pro 3.05 under Wine so far (SuSE > 6.0), and I have given up on that. I guess I'll just go the lazy way and > use VMWare (http://www.vmware.com/>) and run Eudora in a Win98 box under > Linux, together with PFE, my favorite ascii editor Once I've worked out the complexities of Samba 2.0 configuration=20 I'll get started on using Pegasus Mail in extended netware mode. =20 Apparently I can use mars_nwe to do this without using netware. =20 Should be interesting. Thank very much. Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8730961603455176703==-- From reaston@stny.rr.com Tue Apr 6 20:44:53 1999 From: reaston@stny.rr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Cable Modem Question II Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:44:53 -0400 Message-ID: <19990406204952.AAA1327@mail3.stny.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Cable Modem Question II> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0470886281031645612==" --===============0470886281031645612== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is my re-post of my reply which I *think* wasn't posted due=20 to my email domain name change. If anyone has seen this reply=20 before, please notify me. It appears that the listserver=20 doesn't notify of rejected postings. Original post: What are the policies of your cable modem ISP? Many (all?)=20 don't allow you connect multiple PCs without paying extra. The=20 issue is IP addresses. If their network sees more than one IP=20 address on your side of the modem then they a) won't like it, b)=20 may be cutting back on your QoS (quality of service) which may=20 be what's causing the b/w problem. The way to do it is with one Linux box as a firewall/router doing IP masquerading. That=20 way the ISP only sees one IP address and one NIC. The other=20 NIC in that box would connect to your hub. Please note that=20 there are issues involved with SuSE and DHCP (which cable modem=20 systems use - at least mine does) in that at present it doesn't=20 seem to handle a DHCP client on one NIC and a fixed IP on=20 another. Some people have had luck with this, however. See=20 previous posts by Scott Walker and others with subjects=20 involving IP Masquerading and DHCP. I will forward one to you=20 that has a solution by Scott (not sure how this list feels about=20 attachments) in case you haven't been subscribed long enough. -Bob On 5 Apr 99, at 13:12, shango white wrote: >=20 >=20 > I got TCI =3D) >=20 > Ok, I first tested the modem with my computer and it has a new Linksys=20 > 10/100 card in it. It got enormous speed =3D) >=20 > Then I did soem work put a 16 port hub on the modem, hooked up 4=20 > computers as of right now. Usually only 2 computers are asking for=20 > packets. >=20 > Now my problem is. My computer is signaling problems. It has no problem=20 > with websites but downloads are unbearable slow. I am lucky if I reach=20 > twice the speed of a 56k. As I said simple browsing is fast. >=20 > Now the other computers have a winbond 10/100 card in them. They have=20 > also no problem browsing. Downloading is though faster than on my=20 > machine. It still doesn't reach the speed when I ran it without hub. >=20 > I imagine the hub puts a small speed trap in there but not to the amount=20 > I see it imagineable. >=20 > By how much should the hub affect this or do I have a defect card in my=20 > machine. I believe TCI also takes part in the slow down as sometimes=20 > their service entirely drops out with 5-30 second gaps. >=20 > How do I know if I have a defective network card??? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Shango >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0470886281031645612==-- From dan_tudor@home.ro Tue Apr 6 21:02:09 1999 From: dan_tudor@home.ro To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Printer setup Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 00:02:09 +0300 Message-ID: <99040700134500.01245@Darkside> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3718842806713776651==" --===============3718842806713776651== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I'm well aware of the fact my problem is boring for all those who are familiar with Linux: I can't get my printer to work. Sorry. I've read something about the printing thing... unfortunately there isn't much (2 HOWTO's, a small chapter in SuSE manual... and no reference at all in LDP). As far I've understood that lp is my default printer (HP Deskjet 690C), that lpr is the program/interface that takes care of the printing job and lpd deals with the filters. 1. my printer port is lp1 and is (almost) working: cat test.txt > /dev/lp1 prints something, but only on one line. Can I fix this? 2. a command like lpr test.txt gives me nothing at all (not even an error message). The /etc/printcap was configured by YaST and I just added a lp | in front of a line to have the default printer set. 3. even though I have the package aps installed, my /etc/rc.config does not contain anything like START_LPD=3Dyes (or no). It simply does not exist. When= I try to start the lpd manually in /sbin/init.d/lpd with the command ./lpd start i get a message: starting lpd ----- failed. Any help? Please! Dan PS. If you can give me a location on the net where I could learn more about t= he printing process (again, the resources on this subject seem to be scarce) it would be great. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3718842806713776651==-- From dan_tudor@home.ro Tue Apr 6 21:19:10 1999 From: dan_tudor@home.ro To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] HDD question got an answer. Thanks! Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 00:19:10 +0300 Message-ID: <99040700202304.01245@Darkside> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1330229670383541546==" --===============1330229670383541546== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to all those who answered to my question concerning the HDD who was spinning without apparent reason. i had some check jobs for him (put there by the installation program) in cron.daily. I just erased everything from that directory and now everything is silent again. However, anyone knows how could I control this from YaST? Dan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1330229670383541546==-- From reaston@stny.rr.com Tue Apr 6 21:35:25 1999 From: reaston@stny.rr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] a bit late, but what the heck... Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:35:25 -0400 Message-ID: <19990406214024.AAA21135@mail3.stny.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4394500192644307103==" --===============4394500192644307103== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Even Salon Magazine got in on the act: = http://www.salonmagazine.com/21st/feature/1999/04/01feature.html>=20 although a little more transparently. -Bob -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4394500192644307103==-- From cloud9@frontier.net Tue Apr 6 21:37:40 1999 From: cloud9@frontier.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] kde keyboard mapping Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:37:40 -0600 Message-ID: <036e01be8075$b2b3a840$228d2dc7@frontier.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2792287145353024288==" --===============2792287145353024288== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seems like my keyboard mapping is messed up in kde. (suse6.0) ex) when i type y it types z and so on and so on.=20 How can i fix this? Thanks in advanced. -=3DDan Clemens=3D- ~ cloud9(a)frontier.net ~=20 -Nobodys perfect. Well, there was this one guy, but we killed him.- =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2792287145353024288==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Tue Apr 6 21:46:48 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] S.u.S.E. tidbit Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:46:48 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8974898220374005217==" --===============8974898220374005217== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just thought I'd share this-- in light of the not-to-recent thread re: S.u.S.E. promotionals in NA.=20 I was in some store the other day that sells software, to include but not limited to the alternative OS's including Linux and BeOS, BSD etc...=20 Some guy was talking to a salesman in the store, and was asking which dist he should pick to teach to his class-- and he emphasized he wanted a dist that was easy to install. The salesman immmediately recommended S.u.S.E. for ease of installation, wealth of apps, and configurability. He also mentioned that 'S.u.S.E. is really taking off' and that he is now selling more copies of S.u.S.E. than any other distribution-- quote: "[..]it's even outselling RedHat right now.." ( He actually seemed somewhat bemused and surprised by this, but not unpleasantly so.)=20 I thought this was kinda cool. I don't know if this store is typical, but I figured I'd share it given all the discussion of marketting the NA and S.u.S.E. we have had in here. Nice to know in some cases S.u.S.E. in NA, even if it's atypical, that S.u.S.E. is clearly the dist of choice, not only did it hold its own with RedHat among Linux buyers and newbies-- in this one case it seems to have clearly beaten RedHat...=20 Anyway, Please resume your regularly scheduled programming. =20 Michael=20 _____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- M i c h a e l J o h n s o n -=20 e r o s @ a n d u i n . e l d a r . o r g P o w e r e d by L I N U X : K E R N E L 2 . 2 . 1 Please support Free Software and Open Source !!=20 ____________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8974898220374005217==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Tue Apr 6 22:18:13 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] S.u.S.E. tidbit Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:18:13 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3395145547291429827==" --===============3395145547291429827== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06-Apr-99 Michael Johnson wrote: >=20 > I was in some store the other day that sells software, to include but > not limited to the alternative OS's including Linux and BeOS, BSD > etc...=20 > Some guy was talking to a salesman in the store, and was asking which > dist he should pick to teach to his class-- and he emphasized he wanted > a dist that was easy to install. The salesman immmediately recommended > S.u.S.E. for ease of installation, wealth of apps, and configurability. >=20 > I thought this was kinda cool. I don't know if this store is typical, You found a software store where the salesperson discoursed INTELLIGENTLY (i.e. knew what the customer was talking about) on Linux ???????????????? Well, I suppose the USA is a different country ... Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 06-Apr-99 Time: 23:18:13 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3395145547291429827==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 6 22:24:23 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux operating system makes inroads but lags behindrivals Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:24:23 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37097E4F.98773B1D@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7436987728776056912==" --===============7436987728776056912== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote: >=20 > 'Need to read all of this one...not just the title. To save you the trouble of shaking your head, the article is about a study which claimed NT was better than Linux. However, the article also mentions that the same study said AIX was best... ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7436987728776056912==-- From risch@tir.com Tue Apr 6 22:35:42 1999 From: risch@tir.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] "In a Nutshell" Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:35:42 -0400 Message-ID: <370A8C3E.FFA75215@tir.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7582609842588255619==" --===============7582609842588255619== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I apologize should I be guilty of spam, but it's in a good cause. I picked up a copy of "Linux in a Nutshell" last week at CompUSA (not one of my favorite computer plces, btw). The series of "Nutshell" books seems on sale, but the $6 rebate brings them down to $10 (limit one to a family). At $16 I thought it was not bad when I compare with the the book store I usually frequent. There is one caveat though. I note that though CompUSA say "with rebate" the rebate coupon says "purchased between MArch 27 and April 3." My $.02. Regards, Bob -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7582609842588255619==-- From chrisdunn@jamweb.net Tue Apr 6 22:52:45 1999 From: chrisdunn@jamweb.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: FW: Re: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice 5 on SuSE 6.0 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:52:45 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5457453111569934533==" --===============5457453111569934533== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ben, Thanks but I think my problem is that the SO5 I have is a givewaway cd that came with a UK magazine. That seems to be the reason it will not compile on SuSE 6.0. Certainly you should expect the version that came on a commercial version of SuSE 6.0 to work and I'm sure you'd rightly be prety p'd off if it didn't. Roy Culley has suggested downloading 5.01 which is said to be compatible with SuSE 6.0. As a a born cheapskate, I guess I'll try that route first before thinking of buying more cds. Chris Dunn on 6th April Ben Rosenberg wrote: > The SOffice 5.0 is on the SuSE 6.0 commercial box set. You would just > install it via yast..but all yast does is make an install dir and > uncompress the files..you run the setup as you would from the downloaded > version or from the cd set that you can get from stardivision. I would be > that it is something with in the original install of SuSE that you either > checked or did not check ..if this is a major point with you, I would > reinstall by passing a format of you home partition..and just redoing the > others. As I had said..it any incarnation of SO5 I have not had a problem > with SuSE 6.0 or Deadrat 5.2, but I chose SuSE for it's admin > capabilities. Did you run ldconfig as root to make sure all your links > were correct?? If this does not work..mail me back and let me know what > the output is..and I will try to find an answer for you ASAP :) > laters, > ----- > Ben Rosenberg > ----------------||--------------------- > mailto:sinthetk(a)inlink.com On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Chris Dunn wrote: >=20 > Benjamin, >=20 > Thanks for the input, but sorry, but this does not work for me. >=20 > Initially SO5 setup reports a heap of missing libraries and set up exits. When > I extract the missing libraries from the SO5/glibc2 package the problem is > partially resolved. However, SO5 setup does not recognise > the existing SuSE version of the libraries libBrokenLocale and libpthread. >=20 > Setting links to the SuSES libraries as though they are the ones SO5 setup = is > searching for does not help as SO5 setup refuses to recognise them. >=20 > Your reference to "the version off the SuSE cd rings an alarm bell. My SO5 = is > not from the SuSE cd but from another (cd) source. Presumably the SO5 versi= on on > the SuSE cd is cleansed for use with SuSE. >=20 > Now, how to get hold of a copy of that?=20 >=20 > Is it worth the effort? >=20 > Chris Dunn >=20 > On 06-Apr-99 Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > hiya, > >=20 > >=20 > > One does not have to install any lib files that stardivision packag= es > > with the downloadable StarOffice 5 if you have SuSE 6.0. I installed the > > version off the SuSE 6.0 cd and it worked fine, I then later ordered the > > Deluxe version with the filter updates from Stardivision. I ordered it > > partly because I have a connection that makes downloading 65+ megs a > > pain in the bum...and partly because anyone who makes nice apps for > > Linux I want to support. I never minded paying a fair price for good > > software, I switched to Linux because I was tired of unstable crapware. > > SOffice 5.0+filter updates works fine..no new lib files installed. > > If you have 6.0, don't worry about it..those libs are for people who > > have older distros. > >=20 > > just my 0.02 :) > >=20 > > laters, > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >> On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Chris Dunn wrote: > >> > Also the linker ld-2.0.7.so is supplied in a different version with > >> > each programme. SO5 insist that their version of these libraries and t= he > >> > linker > >> > should be used with SO5, but I can find no way of installing using the= ir > >> > libraries without tampering with things on my SuSE installation which I > >> > fear may > >> > corrupt SuSE. > >> > > >> > Has anybody successfully overcome these issues? Pointers would be grea= tly > >> > appreciated. > >>=20 > >> No. And what I don't understand is, why do the StarDivision people even > >> bother giving you those libraries anyway? I mean, they want you to set t= he > >> library path to include their library directory -- and *first* in the pa= th > >> -- therefore, if some program you want to run was compiiled for a > >> different libc version, it won't. What they *should* have done was write= a > >> script which copies the current library path into a new variable, changes > >> it, runs the install/office-suite ; changes it back. Any flaws in my > >> logic? If not, try it out. > >=20 > > --=20 > > Ben Rosenberg > > mailto:sinthetk(a)inlink.com > > " Powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5457453111569934533==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Wed Apr 7 00:22:14 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] kde keyboard mapping Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 02:22:14 +0200 Message-ID: <370AA536.75C802DF@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <036e01be8075$b2b3a840$228d2dc7@frontier.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4860110755614518589==" --===============4860110755614518589== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Clemens wrote: >=20 > Seems like my keyboard mapping is messed up in kde. (suse6.0) > ex) when i type y it types z and so on and so on. > How can i fix this? For some reason you've got thhe german kb layout in kde. You can test it with some other keys: You should have german umlauts instead of [ ; ' and & instead of ^ and so on. So, you should check keyboard settings in kde. Sorry, can't tell you anything about that. I don't know anything about kde. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4860110755614518589==-- From adcarlso@visinet.ca Wed Apr 7 00:41:53 1999 From: adcarlso@visinet.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] To "hell" with Netscape Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:41:53 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3083750921591935813==" --===============3083750921591935813== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04-Apr-99 Ted Harding wrote: >=20 > On 04-Apr-99 Rachel Greenham wrote: >>=20 >> HEY! LINUX HAS NO DECENT EMAIL CLIENT! And yes, I've bloody tried them >> all. They have at least one of: An unusable user interface (Pine), >> lacking in core functionality (KMail), Horribly unreliable (Netscape), >> or can't even get it to work at all (Most others). >>=20 >> Yours, in utter fury: >>=20 >> --=20 >> Rachel >>=20 >> P.S. The sort of fury that probably starts new OSS projects, but I >> haven't got the time right now, there's things I'm trying to DO dammit! >=20 > Hi Rachel, >=20 > Your frustration understood -- nothing worse when nothing works! But have > you tried XFMail? >=20 > I've had irritations with some versions, but most work pretty smoothly, > and have LOTS of functionality. >=20 > If you need a pointer or two, get in touch. >=20 > Ted. >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > E-Mail: (Ted Harding) > Date: 04-Apr-99 Time: 17:46:44 > ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ > -- Netscape under 4.08? under SuSE 5.3 was stable as far as mailto's for me. Now under SuSE 6.0, with Netscape 4.5, I have the aforementioned mailto problems. For me XFmail is great. I've tried Kmail as well...not too bad either.=20 Although I have got accustomed to XFmail's features. ----------------------------------- Arlen Carlson There once was a girl named Irene Who lived on distilled kerosene But she started absorbin' A new hydrocarbon And since then has never benzene. This message was sent by XFmail (Linux) -o) /\\ _\_v The penguins are coming... the penguins are coming... ----------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3083750921591935813==-- From deem@wdm.com Wed Apr 7 00:52:44 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] High Speed Serial PCI under Linux ? Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:52:44 -0900 Message-ID: <4.1.19990406154633.00a7c790@mailhost.arctic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3645323403125934800==" --===============3645323403125934800== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone recommend a good high speed serial card to recommend for SuSE 6.0=20 and the stock kernel ? Thanks -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3645323403125934800==-- From adcarlso@visinet.ca Wed Apr 7 00:57:41 1999 From: adcarlso@visinet.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:57:41 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370926CB.408229A3@mongrz.tzo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2443303016646418390==" --===============2443303016646418390== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05-Apr-99 MongrZ wrote: >=20 > Well...here is theory two: > All the programmers at Netscape use Matrox boards! > Since Benjamin and I both have Matrox boards...and neither have any problem= s. >:-) I have had problems with Netscape...and I am running a Matrox board. Problem is not video related, I guess. >=20 > However I'm now using a Riva TNT.....with no diffuculties thus far. It's n= ot > that I'm not pushing Netscape as hard as the next guy.....I do alot of > surfing > and the browser is open for hours at a time. >=20 > Rick Thompson >=20 > Ralph Clark wrote: >=20 >> Rick Thompson wrote: >> >> > You're not special ;-) >> > I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite some time. I >> > do >> > get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by and large it >> > works >> > reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape ftp site. I thi= nk >> > your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is probably dead >> > on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) and maybe >> > that's >> > why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be having. How >> > about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems? >> >> It's not the video hardware. I've had the same problems with all >> Communicator >> 4.x using an ancient S3 5426 board, an ancient ET4000, an ATI Mach 64 >> Xpert(a)Play AGP and an STB Velocity 128 AGP (Nvidia Riva). That's on >> Linux-FT, >=20 > -- ----------------------------------- Arlen Carlson Illinois isn't exactly the land that God forgot -- it's more like the land He's trying to ignore. This message was sent by XFmail (Linux) -o) /\\ _\_v The penguins are coming... the penguins are coming... ----------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2443303016646418390==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Wed Apr 7 01:04:35 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] S.u.S.E. tidbit Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:04:35 -0500 Message-ID: <370AAF23.983E44BC@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2637532814769084407==" --===============2637532814769084407== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "(Ted Harding)" wrote: >=20 > On 06-Apr-99 Michael Johnson wrote: > > > > I was in some store the other day that sells software, to include but > > not limited to the alternative OS's including Linux and BeOS, BSD > > etc... > > Some guy was talking to a salesman in the store, and was asking which > > dist he should pick to teach to his class-- and he emphasized he wanted > > a dist that was easy to install. The salesman immmediately recommended > > S.u.S.E. for ease of installation, wealth of apps, and configurability. > > > > I thought this was kinda cool. I don't know if this store is typical, >=20 > You found a software store where the salesperson discoursed INTELLIGENTLY > (i.e. knew what the customer was talking about) on Linux ???????????????? >=20 > Well, I suppose the USA is a different country ... >=20 > Ted. >=20 Heh, don't bet on it. I use to work for this huge clone builder in St. Louis..and one of the sales people tried to sell this guy a G200 waaaaaaaaaaaaay before it was supported..I promptly told the salesman that if he sold this customer a $7000 server with that card in it..and they could not run X or if they had to spend the cash to get AccelX after figuring out that it was not supported...we would have a $7000 return on our hands and no good word o' mouth..hehheheheh. Anyways, I am glad you found a good place to shop! laters, --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2637532814769084407==-- From dlaude@execpc.com Wed Apr 7 01:45:32 1999 From: dlaude@execpc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] High Speed Serial PCI under Linux ? Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:45:32 -0500 Message-ID: <199904070145.UAA01445@mailgw01.execpc.com> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990406154633.00a7c790@mailhost.arctic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6919068894025315382==" --===============6919068894025315382== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---Reply to mail from W.D.McKinney (Dee) about [SuSE Linux] High Speed Serial= PCI under Linux ? >=20 > Anyone recommend a good high speed serial card to recommend for SuSE 6.0=20 > and the stock kernel ? The RocketPort cards work well. Here's the url: http://www.comtrol.com/sales/specs/= rocket.htm> Hope this is what you were looking for Dee.=20 Dana -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6919068894025315382==-- From deem@wdm.com Wed Apr 7 03:18:03 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re[3]: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 19:18:03 -0800 Message-ID: <199904070318.TAA00748@wdm.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4618038031903811459==" --===============4618038031903811459== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote: >=20 >=20 > I can hardly wait. The day I can wipe Netscape off my drive, is the day I = can > look people in the face and tell them Linux HAS a Web Browser. I used Opera > under 95 with no problems. It's small and fast which is the best part. >=20 As I stated before, under my system, Netscape works very nice. When 5.0 comes, it will be a small, fast and a great app. > One option I have not heard though is StarOffice. While I do realize that = it > is quite a pig to load just for e-mail, it does have a built in browser. I > personally have not tried the e-mail, but I do like the Browser. The actual= use > of readable fonts alone makes it a hands down winner over Netscape. Howeve= r, > it has been only somewhat better on the stability side. Has anyone else tr= ied > it?? >=20 > Steve >=20 Yes, StarOffice works, but not near as good Netscape. -Dee =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4618038031903811459==-- From stevem12@mindspring.com Wed Apr 7 03:27:24 1999 From: stevem12@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:27:24 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3990190614793052427==" --===============3990190614793052427== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > We'll the good news is operasoftware will release a linux browser soon. yea > I tried this for a while in windows and I found it to be a > great fast littlew browser only 4mb!!=20 > The bad news is that they want money for it but hell I might actually buy > a piece > of software. Once you are accustomed to opera there isn't a better browser. > L8R > ian the sane >=20 > -- I can hardly wait. The day I can wipe Netscape off my drive, is the day I can look people in the face and tell them Linux HAS a Web Browser. I used Opera under 95 with no problems. It's small and fast which is the best part. One option I have not heard though is StarOffice. While I do realize that it is quite a pig to load just for e-mail, it does have a built in browser. I personally have not tried the e-mail, but I do like the Browser. The actual u= se of readable fonts alone makes it a hands down winner over Netscape. However, it has been only somewhat better on the stability side. Has anyone else tried it?? Steve ---------------------------------- E-Mail: stevem12(a)mindspring.com Date: 06-Apr-99 Time: 23:21:22 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3990190614793052427==-- From stevem12@mindspring.com Wed Apr 7 03:41:47 1999 From: stevem12@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:41:47 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000a01be7fa3$f36ebc30$30e7d8cd@rlt450> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3423425670986162622==" --===============3423425670986162622== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05-Apr-99 Rick Thompson wrote: >=20 > You're not special ;-) > I too have been using Netscape for browsing/email for quite some time. I do > get occasional crashes to to runaway java crap....but by and large it works > reliably. I too only install using the files on Netscape ftp site. I think > your theory on hardware (specifically the video adapter) is probably dead > on. I've always used top notch hardware (especially video) and maybe that's > why we don't have the problems most other people seem to be having. How > about an impromptu hardware survey from you guys with the problems? It may > be an eye-opener....something we could send of to either Netscape or to the > offending hardware manufacturers. > Rick Thompson >=20 I totally agree here. Although Netscape is by far the worst for me, other X programs crash also. People talk about Linux stability, but realistcally that is usually true when X is not being used. It's defintely an issue that will hurt Linux in the long run if XFree86 can't become more stable and support newer hardware. So here goes my configuration: Kernel: 2.0.36 Video Card: Diamond Stealth 3000 3D - S3 virge VX Server: SVGA Recommended that I dont use the S3V server. Switched video card to an: STB Nitro 3D Same server. Same problem. Steve ---------------------------------- E-Mail: stevem12(a)mindspring.com Date: 06-Apr-99 Time: 23:35:32 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3423425670986162622==-- From deem@wdm.com Wed Apr 7 04:15:36 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] XF Mail not working with WV Dial Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:15:36 -0800 Message-ID: <199904070415.UAA00914@wdm.com> In-Reply-To: <199904061056.LAA30056@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4237080548863934972==" --===============4237080548863934972== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Richard Ibbotson" wrote: >=20 > Hi >=20 > This is a good one :-) >=20 > I've got XF Mail working again and now when I dial up with Kppp it=20 > works fine. However, when I dialup with WVdial I get an error=20 > message that says that the mailhost doesn't exist. Same with Kmail. >=20 > Any ideas about this one ? Well wvdial and Ishamil works just fine. Maybe you should look at /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/wvdial.conf . -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4237080548863934972==-- From dlaude@execpc.com Wed Apr 7 04:29:56 1999 From: dlaude@execpc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:29:56 -0500 Message-ID: <199904070429.XAA31687@mailgw01.execpc.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2615779666263185720==" --===============2615779666263185720== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---Reply to mail from stevem12(a)mindspring.com about Re(2): [SuSE Linux] Re:= To hell with Netscape - possible reas > > I can hardly wait. The day I can wipe Netscape off my drive, is the day I = can > look people in the face and tell them Linux HAS a Web Browser. I used Opera > under 95 with no problems. It's small and fast which is the best part. >=20 > One option I have not heard though is StarOffice. While I do realize that = it > is quite a pig to load just for e-mail, it does have a built in browser. I > personally have not tried the e-mail, but I do like the Browser. The actual= use > of readable fonts alone makes it a hands down winner over Netscape. Howeve= r, > it has been only somewhat better on the stability side. Has anyone else tr= ied > it?? As far as Opera is concerned, I hope it is ported soon. I personally don't mind spending a few dollars if I can have a stable browser that supports java, etc. I could care less about the proprietary MS browser crap. On the other hand, Netscape has been pretty stable here, minus a glinch or two with java. My system is based on a VX chipset, 200Mhz Intel Pentium CPU with 96MB ram, 2 IDE hd's, (2.1 and 2.5GB) a RealTec NIC, and a USR 56k internal fax modem. =20 Regarding StarOffice..., I installed Word Perfect 8. No problems, hence I'm happy! I've used SOx prior to WP8 and I do not miss the slow loading..., etc..., found in StarOffice. My aspect is: If I actually have to choose between a commercial vs. free application, performance wins, hands down, even if the cost is minimal. (as in the personal edition of WP8.) Dana -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2615779666263185720==-- From iwojima@hotbot.com Wed Apr 7 05:58:35 1999 From: iwojima@hotbot.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] installation Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 21:58:35 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1330772465533657775==" --===============1330772465533657775== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What does Append-line for hardware parameter means? during my installation I = was unable to boot into window98 it only booted to suse. How do you fix this = problem. I have installed RedHat before and it was simple to do. Thanks, iwojima. HotBot - Search smarter. http:/= /www.hotbot.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1330772465533657775==-- From schattev@imb-jena.de Wed Apr 7 07:12:04 1999 From: schattev@imb-jena.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Which graphics board for OpenGL applications? Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:12:04 +0200 Message-ID: <370B0544.53521312@imb-jena.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6019571261312143711==" --===============6019571261312143711== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, if I'm going to buy a new graphics board which shall support or atleast is expected to support soon OpenGL in hardware, would an Elsa-Gloria-Synergy be the right (and only) choice? At least this board is listed in a SuSE web-page where the SuSE people tell, that they currently are adapting the mesa driver to support hardware acceleration. Is this board available with more than 8MB RAM? Are there other (commercial) OpenGL implementations available for SuSE linux? Thanks, Ruben --=20 Ruben Schattevoy Institut fuer Molekulare Biotechnologie, Beutenbergstrasse 11, 07745 Jena, Germany -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6019571261312143711==-- From ljackson@techlinks.com Wed Apr 7 07:17:04 1999 From: ljackson@techlinks.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Apache Server Startup Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 00:17:04 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0860813702466091500==" --===============0860813702466091500== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know where Apache is configured to start from in a default installation of SuSE 6.0? I checked /sbin/init.d but couldn't find anything that referenced "apache start". Thanks lj -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0860813702466091500==-- From dark@pluto.szikszi.hu Wed Apr 7 07:41:03 1999 From: dark@pluto.szikszi.hu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Apache Server Startup Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:41:03 +0200 Message-ID: <370B0C0F.DD51CAF5@mail.szikszi.hu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1185350293515399545==" --===============1185350293515399545== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote: >=20 > Does anyone know where Apache is configured to start from in a default > installation of SuSE 6.0? I checked /sbin/init.d but couldn't find > anything that referenced "apache start". >=20 > Thanks >=20 > lj >=20 > -- Well, I think if you install apache it will automatically start on the next reboot, but if you look into the /etc/rc.d/init.d, you will find a csript called 'httpd'. With this script you can start/stop the apache http server. (My English is poor, but I hope it wil "understandable" :) --=20 ____ __ =20 / __ \____ ______/ /__ / / / / __ `/ ___/ //_/ / /_/ / /_/ / / / ,< =20 /_____/\__,_/_/ /_/|_|@mail.szikszi.hu -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1185350293515399545==-- From grimmer@suse.de Wed Apr 7 08:31:55 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:31:55 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904070429.XAA31687@mailgw01.execpc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8635405135107446044==" --===============8635405135107446044== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Dana J. Laude wrote: > As far as Opera is concerned, I hope it is ported soon. I The port is already in the works. Troll Tech (the guys who made the Qt Library) are making the port to Linux. I've talked with the Opera Guys on CeBit. Maybe we can arrange a demo version on future SuSE Linux releases... Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8635405135107446044==-- From grimmer@suse.de Wed Apr 7 08:38:00 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] installation Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:38:00 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8379753159906675751==" --===============8379753159906675751== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, yuj jonah wrote: > What does Append-line for hardware parameter means?=20 This is a possibility to pass certain hardware parameters to the kernel (eg. Interrupts and I/O-ports for certain drivers). It usually is not necessary, it depends on the hardware you use. > during my installation I was unable to boot into window98 it only > booted to suse. How do you fix this problem. I have installed RedHat > before and it was simple to do. Well, you were on the right track. Create an additional boot configuration (eg labeled "win"), which boots from your windows partition. You should then be able to enter the desired boot configuration at the LILO promt, which will boot the respective operating system. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8379753159906675751==-- From grimmer@suse.de Wed Apr 7 08:39:40 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Apache Server Startup Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:39:40 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5176305300476943281==" --===============5176305300476943281== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote: > Does anyone know where Apache is configured to start from in a default > installation of SuSE 6.0? I checked /sbin/init.d but couldn't find > anything that referenced "apache start". There's a variable in /etc/rc.config called "START_HTTPD". If this is set to "yes", the init-script /sbin/init.d/apache will start the Apache server. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5176305300476943281==-- From grimmer@suse.de Wed Apr 7 08:50:10 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: spring forward :) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:50:10 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904050240.TAA09588@eskimo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1419417607695649169==" --===============1419417607695649169== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Jim Osborn wrote: > Actually, one of my machines sprang, and the other didn't. This is the > first time I've had Linux fail to change on DST day, so I'm very > surprised. Both running SuSE 5.3. >=20 > Can someone tell me where the DST change is controlled? I must have > something different between the two machines, but nothing, I thought, > in the clock department. FWIW, the machine that failed to spring has > been running various Slackware installations for six years. I > upgraded to SuSE last fall, just after the DST change. This the first > time it hasn't changed with DST. This is controlled via variables in /etc/rc.config: # # Set to "-u" if your system clock is set to GMT, otherwise "". # GMT=3D"-u" # # Timezone (e.g. MET) # (this will set /usr/lib/zoneinfo/localtime) # TIMEZONE=3D"MET" AFAIK, the spring forward depends on the selected timezone. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1419417607695649169==-- From grimmer@suse.de Wed Apr 7 09:27:49 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Which graphics board for OpenGL applications? Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:27:49 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370B0544.53521312@imb-jena.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6650057259297205272==" --===============6650057259297205272== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Ruben Schattevoy wrote: > if I'm going to buy a new graphics board which shall support or > atleast is expected to support soon OpenGL in hardware, would an >=20 > Elsa-Gloria-Synergy >=20 > be the right (and only) choice? Well, it depends. If you want to have hardware-accelerated OpenGL _now_, you should consider a card based on the 3dfx Voodoo, Voodoo2 or Voodoo Rush chipset. We are indeed working on OpenGL based on the Permedia2 chipset (which is used on the Gloria Synergy), but it is not usable for productive use yet. > At least this board is listed in a SuSE web-page where the SuSE people > tell, that they currently are adapting the mesa driver to support > hardware acceleration. Is this board available with more than 8MB RAM? Not that I know of. > Are there other (commercial) OpenGL implementations available for SuSE > linux? Metrolink also announced Hardware-OpenGL. See http://www.metrolink.com= > for more info. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6650057259297205272==-- From grimmer@suse.de Wed Apr 7 09:28:53 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 and "Unable to open an initial console" Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:28:53 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990405010430.006a1d98@chaffee.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4494287028986486223==" --===============4494287028986486223== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Jim Hodgers wrote: > Good Friday was really good to me, SuSE 6.0 arrived!! > I loaded it on Saturday, 4 times(don't ask) but continue=20 > to get this strange problem. If I boot the system from my HD I get the > message "Unable to open an initial console". It comes after all the SCSI > disks are recognized and the partitions mounted. Immediately before the > message is the step "VFS:Mounted root(ext2 filesystem) readonly". If I boot > from the floppy made during installation it boots OK and the system is > useable. Not that I will boot that often, but it is strange and I would > like to fix it. Hmm, check your LILO boot configuration. Did you really enter the correct _root_ partition? Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4494287028986486223==-- From lrivas@oxiquim.cl Wed Apr 7 11:41:11 1999 From: lrivas@oxiquim.cl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha! Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:41:11 -0200 Message-ID: <8325674C.00401A50.00@oxinotes.oxiquim.cl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9072621522341834627==" --===============9072621522341834627== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thats it! Some guy toldme about a UNIX/LINUX version of the fxxxing MSIE4.0. Does anyone of you have it?(he he) or... does anyone of u will have it? (more hehe) Opinions? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9072621522341834627==-- From andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk Wed Apr 7 12:53:14 1999 From: andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Apache Server Startup Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:53:14 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01be80f5$9ea7ea20$0e01a8c0@andy.mcr.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Apache Server Startup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3845682586528486781==" --===============3845682586528486781== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: Timar Peter To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: 07 April 1999 09:22 Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Apache Server Startup > >ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote: >> >> Does anyone know where Apache is configured to start from in a default >> installation of SuSE 6.0? I checked /sbin/init.d but couldn't find >> anything that referenced "apache start". >> >> Thanks >> >> lj >> >> -- > >Well, I think if you install apache it will automatically start on the >next reboot, but if you look into the /etc/rc.d/init.d, you will find a >csript called 'httpd'. With this script you can start/stop the apache >http server. >(My English is poor, but I hope it wil "understandable" :) >-- > ____ __ > / __ \____ ______/ /__ > / / / / __ `/ ___/ //_/ > / /_/ / /_/ / / / ,< >/_____/\__,_/_/ /_/|_|@mail.szikszi.hu >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > Isn't it easier to just set the 'START_HTTPD' to yes in yast set-up. This then automatically runs the SuSEconfig programme for you automatically. Rgds Andrew andy(a)mcrentals.demon.co.uk -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3845682586528486781==-- From koen_dejonghe@yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 13:20:25 1999 From: koen_dejonghe@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PPP & Shiva LanRover Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 06:20:25 -0700 Message-ID: <19990407132025.15393.rocketmail@web108.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6973549592493022798==" --===============6973549592493022798== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Anybody out there who has a working chat script for a Shiva LanRover connecti= on ?=20 Thanks. =3D=3D=3D Koen Dejonghe tel: +32 (0)2 712 3668=20 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6973549592493022798==-- From gcambria@ar.ing.unisi.it Wed Apr 7 14:41:05 1999 From: gcambria@ar.ing.unisi.it To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: R: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha! Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:41:05 +0200 Message-ID: <000601be8104$ad444f60$0205a8c0@lupoalberto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1185671943513299958==" --===============1185671943513299958== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Leonel Rivas A: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Data: mercoled=C3=AC 7 aprile 1999 16.25 Oggetto: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha! > >Thats it! >Some guy toldme about a UNIX/LINUX version of the fxxxing MSIE4.0. Does >anyone of you have it?(he he) >or... does anyone of u will have it? (more hehe) >Opinions? > > >-- Of course I've it! But it is only a pre-beta 0.009b 15&half bit: it is able to crash windoze even if the box is running Linux. Real multitask. Regards NanniX -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1185671943513299958==-- From dan_tudor@home.ro Wed Apr 7 14:53:16 1999 From: dan_tudor@home.ro To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:53:16 +0300 Message-ID: <99040718060900.00228@Darkside> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6676501828432427862==" --===============6676501828432427862== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Being with Linux for quite a short time now, I heard others talking about setting up pieces of hardware under Red Hat a lot esier than under SuSE. On t= he other hand, people talk about SuSE being "the complete OS". I am using SuSE 6= .0 and indeed I have hundreds of applications on my HDD put there by the standard installation - but I realize I don't need about maybe 600f them.=20 I was wondering if anyone could tell me why (if) is SuSE a better choice than Red Hat? In fact what are the differences between those two leading (I guess) Linux OS's? Of course SuSE has YaST, but also Red Hat has a System Configuration tool which is pretty cool (so far as I've seen). Can you convin= ce me that I made a wise choice betting on SuSE? ... (by the way, what SuSE initials stand for?) Dan. PS. By the way, I've seen programs like Matlab which is said they're made for Linux, in parantheses added RedHat, Debian, Slackware for instance. Does this mean there is a posibility a program made for Linux not to run on SuSE? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6676501828432427862==-- From lach@lach.net Wed Apr 7 15:14:52 1999 From: lach@lach.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] porting from libc to glibc Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:14:52 -0500 Message-ID: <370B766C.BFABB84@lach.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5533726408611437322==" --===============5533726408611437322== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am looking for resources that cover issues to look for when porting an application from libc to glibc. The application I'm porting is large! Any urls or howtos?? thanks lach -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5533726408611437322==-- From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Wed Apr 7 15:16:44 1999 From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Which graphics board for OpenGL applications? Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:16:44 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1848866906375887960==" --===============1848866906375887960== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, There is a HOWTO on opengl in linux: http://www.g= amers.org/dEngine/xf3D/howto/3Dfx-HOWTO.html> I have got a Diamond Viper v550 with 16M of RAM. GL screensavers and quake work excellently in Win98 ;-) I did not have time to try opengl in linux; however, X works quite well. -alexm On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Ruben Schattevoy wrote: >=20 > > if I'm going to buy a new graphics board which shall support or > > atleast is expected to support soon OpenGL in hardware, would an > >=20 > > Elsa-Gloria-Synergy > >=20 > > be the right (and only) choice? >=20 > Well, it depends. If you want to have hardware-accelerated OpenGL _now_, > you should consider a card based on the 3dfx Voodoo, Voodoo2 or Voodoo > Rush chipset. We are indeed working on OpenGL based on the Permedia2 > chipset (which is used on the Gloria Synergy), but it is not usable for > productive use yet. >=20 > > At least this board is listed in a SuSE web-page where the SuSE people > > tell, that they currently are adapting the mesa driver to support > > hardware acceleration. Is this board available with more than 8MB RAM? >=20 > Not that I know of. >=20 > > Are there other (commercial) OpenGL implementations available for SuSE > > linux? >=20 > Metrolink also announced Hardware-OpenGL. See http://www.metrolink.com> for > more info. >=20 > Bye, >=20 > LenZ >=20 > --=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH > mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 > http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Ger= many -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1848866906375887960==-- From Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net Wed Apr 7 16:15:05 1999 From: Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha! Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:15:05 -0700 Message-ID: <370B8489.53C40147@gte.net> In-Reply-To: <8325674C.00401A50.00@oxinotes.oxiquim.cl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1138517798119907734==" --===============1138517798119907734== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Leonel Rivas wrote: >=20 > Thats it! > Some guy toldme about a UNIX/LINUX version of the fxxxing MSIE4.0. Does > anyone of you have it?(he he) > or... does anyone of u will have it? (more hehe) > Opinions? >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> I had a version of IE running on my Solaris workstation at my last job. That was more than a year ago and I haven't followed IE's development on UNIX since then. It worked OK and I was using it to access websites that would outright crash Netscape for Solaris. Tony --=20 Anthony.Schlemmer(a)gte.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1138517798119907734==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Wed Apr 7 16:37:00 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha! Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:37:00 -0700 Message-ID: <199904071637.JAA29368@www1.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1562157767258927053==" --===============1562157767258927053== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think the real question would be: With all the high quality Unix=20 networking software out there, what would IE add? If it exists, I see it=20 only as yet another way Microsoft is trying to take over the entire=20 monopoly. That is the object of business, anyway. Microsoft has always been behind the games a little when it comes to=20 Internetworking. In my opinion, it would be a huge step backward to start=20 installing Microsoft products on a highly functional Unix machine already=20 optimised for these sorts of things. It may pave the way for the types of=20 security problems that Microsoft users contend with to enter the Unix=20 world, as well. Karsten "Leonel Rivas" wrote: >=20 > Thats it! > Some guy toldme about a UNIX/LINUX version of the fxxxing MSIE4.0. Does > anyone of you have it?(he he) > or... does anyone of u will have it? (more hehe) > Opinions? ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - http://orders.xoom.com/email> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1562157767258927053==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Wed Apr 7 16:45:28 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:45:28 -0700 Message-ID: <199904071645.JAA06550@www2.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5978479321360538791==" --===============5978479321360538791== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You don't have to install everything from SuSE. SuSE's major strength that I see, and the reason I installed SuSE over my Red= Hat=20 Linux setup is that they are involved not only in bundling software, but also= in=20 preparing the drivers. SuSE wrote the drivers that support my video card und= er=20 X. I would have waited another month to get it from RedHat. It is also nice to only need one distribution package to get all the Linux=20 software you need. You are right that you only need a certain small percenta= ge of=20 what is there, but remember, everyone has different needs. SuSE, with its ma= ssive=20 distribution size, caters to pretty well everyone that could ever have an int= erest=20 in the operating system. With RedHat, you buy the regular distribution, and = then=20 the other stuff. You may end up purchasing 3 different sets of CDs and still= end=20 up downloading software to get what functionality you need. SuSE, having sup= plied=20 just about everything that works under linux (a slight exaggeration, but stil= l, 6=20 CDs of software is a hell of a lot!) means you only have to buy once. SuSE provide a lot of drivers that don't appear anywhere else -- such as for = my=20 video card. RedHat's strength is that their distributions (which are rather small) come i= n a=20 single package for several hardware platforms.... intel, Alpha, Sparc and the= Vic=20 20. Kidding about the Vic, though, but I suspect you knew that. ;) Laters, Karsten Johansson Dan Tudor wrote: >=20 > Being with Linux for quite a short time now, I heard others talking about > setting up pieces of hardware under Red Hat a lot esier than under SuSE. O= n the > other hand, people talk about SuSE being "the complete OS". I am using SuS= E 6.0 > and indeed I have hundreds of applications on my HDD put there by the stan= dard > installation - but I realize I don't need about maybe 600f them.=20 > I was wondering if anyone could tell me why (if) is SuSE a better choice t= han > Red Hat? In fact what are the differences between those two leading (I gue= ss) > Linux OS's? Of course SuSE has YaST, but also Red Hat has a System > Configuration tool which is pretty cool (so far as I've seen). Can you con= vince > me that I made a wise choice betting on SuSE? ... (by the way, what SuSE > initials stand for?) >=20 > Dan. >=20 > PS. By the way, I've seen programs like Matlab which is said they're made = for > Linux, in parantheses added RedHat, Debian, Slackware for instance. Does t= his > mean there is a posibility a program made for Linux not to run on SuSE? > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - http://orders.xoom.com/email> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5978479321360538791==-- From HKNIEF@taos.com Wed Apr 7 16:56:16 1999 From: HKNIEF@taos.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:56:16 -0700 Message-ID: <21DEAE09F017D111969700A0C9840752F27D7A@espresso.taos.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5929756818612940170==" --===============5929756818612940170== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can you be more specific about setting up hardware? I've used many Linux distributions (Slackware, RedHat, TurboLinux, SuSE and Caldera)... In fact I think the only one I haven't used is Debian. I use SuSE almost exclusively, even though some of the other do provide some additional/different administration tools. My point in getting and using Linux is to toy with the operating system. I've found RedHat to be almost restrictive in allowing you complete control of customization. SuSE gives you everything you need, albeit some of the utilities might be a bit obscure, but there is no limit to configuration and setup options that you have. In my opinion, it's a much more flexible distribution... and maybe I've been lucky, but I've not had any problems setting up hardware devices to date. If you want just a simple example... take this into consideration: Once you've configured X, how hard is it to change window managers on RedHat, as opposed to SuSE? (and we won't even get into the choices available.) - Herman > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Tudor [SMTP:dan_tudor(a)home.ro] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 7:53 AM > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat >=20 >=20 > Being with Linux for quite a short time now, I heard others talking > about > setting up pieces of hardware under Red Hat a lot esier than under > SuSE. On the > other hand, people talk about SuSE being "the complete OS". I am using > SuSE 6.0 > and indeed I have hundreds of applications on my HDD put there by the > standard > installation - but I realize I don't need about maybe 600f them.=20 > I was wondering if anyone could tell me why (if) is SuSE a better > choice than > Red Hat? In fact what are the differences between those two leading (I > guess) > Linux OS's? Of course SuSE has YaST, but also Red Hat has a System > Configuration tool which is pretty cool (so far as I've seen). Can you > convince > me that I made a wise choice betting on SuSE? ... (by the way, what > SuSE > initials stand for?) >=20 > Dan. >=20 > PS. By the way, I've seen programs like Matlab which is said they're > made for > Linux, in parantheses added RedHat, Debian, Slackware for instance. > Does this > mean there is a posibility a program made for Linux not to run on > SuSE? > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and > the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5929756818612940170==-- From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Wed Apr 7 17:03:46 1999 From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 19:03:46 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9018649910239667072==" --===============9018649910239667072== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lenz et al; On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Dana J. Laude wrote: >=20 > > As far as Opera is concerned, I hope it is ported soon. I >=20 > The port is already in the works. Troll Tech (the guys who made the Qt > Library) are making the port to Linux. >=20 > I've talked with the Opera Guys on CeBit. Maybe we can arrange a demo > version on future SuSE Linux releases... >=20 > Bye, > LenZ I'm with you guys I don't mind paying (a little :)). But my question about Opera is will I be able to do my banking with it. Right now I have to use NS for the encytion (sp?). That's about the only reason I use NS, otherwise I use Lynx.=20 TIA! J I M ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany=20 hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ---------------------------------------------- Tired of "King Klinton I" & the Oral Office? Join the Libertarian Party! Check out www.lp.org -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9018649910239667072==-- From raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu Wed Apr 7 17:17:15 1999 From: raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] [Q] How to determine which compiler to install? Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:17:15 -0400 Message-ID: <370B931B.D2324A0@neuronet.pitt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8778230580110674481==" --===============8778230580110674481== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm currently running version 2.2.5 of the Linux kernel (which I=20 compiled with the compiler from the egcs package provided in the=20 SuSE 6.0 CDs). Now I'm trying to build other packages from source=20 (off the net and the sources CD-ROM) and get compiler errors from=20 the c++ compiler.=20 I would like to know if I'm mixing things up. I currently have=20 installed: egcs-990119-0 gcc-2.7.2.3-10 gpp-990119-0 libc-99.1.14-0 libgpp-990119-0 shlibs-99.1.14-0 shlibs5-99.1.20-0 Are these the appropriate packages needed to have a development=20 system? How about the GIMP tool kit? There are packages: glib, glibn, gtk, gtkn and the corresponding development=20 packages. The ones with the "n" suffix seem to be more recent. Can they coexist? The gimp was built using the older GTK package. Can it be recompiled using the new one? I'd like to upgrade to GTK 1.2.1. I'd appreciate comments to my previous questions and about your experiences with GTK 1.2.1. Thanks. --=20 Rafael Herrera Laboratory for Computational Neuroscience University of Pittsburgh http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~raffo> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8778230580110674481==-- From jbodnar@dev.tivoli.com Wed Apr 7 17:24:51 1999 From: jbodnar@dev.tivoli.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Dell puts money in Red Hat, Linux Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:24:51 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8056482286559775036==" --===============8056482286559775036== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= A HREF=3D"http://www.austin360.com/technology/stories/1999/04/07dell.htmlhttp://www.austin360.com/technology/stories/1999/04/07dell.html> --- Jason Bodnar + jbodnar(a)tivoli.com + Tivoli Systems [Another Normism ...] How's it going, Norm? Cut the small talk and get me a beer. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8056482286559775036==-- From tschlemmer@sequeltech.com Wed Apr 7 17:51:33 1999 From: tschlemmer@sequeltech.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:51:33 -0700 Message-ID: <370B9B25.FA115F03@sequeltech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8528934281370689522==" --===============8528934281370689522== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see that MetroWerks has an announcement regarding their upcoming version of CodeWarrior targeted specifically for Red Hat Linux. It's too bad they are targeting a specific Linux distribution. =20 http://www.metrowerks.com> Tony --=20 Tony Schlemmer mailto:tschlemmer(a)sequeltech= .com http://www.sequeltech.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8528934281370689522==-- From jont@ii.uib.no Wed Apr 7 17:51:44 1999 From: jont@ii.uib.no To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 19:51:44 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99040718060900.00228@Darkside> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5451392853862430803==" --===============5451392853862430803== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Dan Tudor wrote: [snip] > Configuration tool which is pretty cool (so far as I've seen). Can you conv= ince > me that I made a wise choice betting on SuSE? ... (by the way, what SuSE > initials stand for?) According to Lenz' FAQ, "SuSE" stands for "Gesellschaft f=C3=BCr Software- und Systementwicklung mbH" or "Company for Software- and System-Development" You can find the FAQ here http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and I have no idea why there is no link to this FAQ from www.suse.de/e. (But then again, where did the link to the info page about 6.0 go when they updated that page a couple of days ago? The German page is much better than the English one... :-( ) Well, about RH vs SuSE, I think it has a lot to do with personal taste. I needed a Linux distribution for some PCs that were to be used by=20 people from different institutes here. At the time, SuSE 6.0 was just released and semmed the most up to date. Also, YaST and /etc/rc.config turned out to be great features during the configuration, and NIS and autofs were up and running within a couple of minutes. All the bundled applications means a lot to me, since there are so many=20 people that will use these boxes for different purposes. You mention RH's linuxconf, but I think (?) you can use linuxconf instead of YaST under SuSE if you want to, but then you'll have to disable YaST/SuSEConfig in /etc/rc.config. YaST will override the settings made by linuxconf. You can find linuxconf here: http://linuxconf.compiled.com/linuxconf/> But of course SuSE isn't perfect either. Some people find /etc/csh.cshrc too large and confusing under SuSE, and some don't like the /etc/rc.config feature because they come from other systems where they had to configure things manually. They like to be in control, and they're not really sure about what the SuSE scripts actually do.=20 Hmm. I'll try to find something that _really_ annoys me about SuSE tomorrow. :-) =20 Bottom line is, people will never agree on these things, so the only way for you to find out what your favourite is, is to try them all (!) and decide for yourself. Just my 2 cents etc-etc... ---J.T.U. #include \\|// - ? (o o) /=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DoOOO=3D(_)=3DOOOo=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D\ | Jon Trygve Utne |e-mail: jont(a)ii.uib.no | | Department of Informatics | Jon.Utne(a)mi.uib.no | | University of Bergen | Jon.Utne(a)student.uib.no | | NORWAY | | | Tlf: |"Smith & Wesson: The original|=20 | Home: +47 55 13 06 13 | point and click interface" | | Work: +47 55 58 40 39 | | | URL: http://www.ii.uib.no/~jont> | = | | .oooO | | ( ) Oooo. | \=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D\ (=3D=3D( )=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D/ \_) ) / (_/ =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5451392853862430803==-- From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Wed Apr 7 18:03:09 1999 From: jboonen@Worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:03:09 +0200 Message-ID: <370B9DDD.87C5FC05@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4029949107288171869==" --===============4029949107288171869== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Steven, I have tried it. It worked stable for me. Joop. I prefer netscape tough. stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote: > > We'll the good news is operasoftware will release a linux browser soon. y= ea > > I tried this for a while in windows and I found it to be a > > great fast littlew browser only 4mb!! > > The bad news is that they want money for it but hell I might actually buy > > a piece > > of software. Once you are accustomed to opera there isn't a better browse= r. > > L8R > > ian the sane > > > > -- > > I can hardly wait. The day I can wipe Netscape off my drive, is the day I = can > look people in the face and tell them Linux HAS a Web Browser. I used Opera > under 95 with no problems. It's small and fast which is the best part. > > One option I have not heard though is StarOffice. While I do realize that = it > is quite a pig to load just for e-mail, it does have a built in browser. I > personally have not tried the e-mail, but I do like the Browser. The actual= use > of readable fonts alone makes it a hands down winner over Netscape. Howeve= r, > it has been only somewhat better on the stability side. Has anyone else tr= ied > it?? > > Steve > > ---------------------------------- > E-Mail: stevem12(a)mindspring.com > Date: 06-Apr-99 > Time: 23:21:22 > > This message was sent by XFMail > ---------------------------------- > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4029949107288171869==-- From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Wed Apr 7 18:10:30 1999 From: jboonen@Worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha! Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:10:30 +0200 Message-ID: <370B9F96.9ADB86C5@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <199904071637.JAA29368@www1.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5502226535421593121==" --===============5502226535421593121== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with Karsten. Look for instance what Microsoft did with Apple. They made out of office 98 an important application for Mac OS. Then they told Apple if the don't make IE their preferred browser they won't support Office 98 anymore. I think it's best and most safe to use public domain and shareware product for Linux if possible. And certainly don't support the MS monopoly at this time. Joop. Karsten Johansson wrote: > I think the real question would be: With all the high quality Unix > networking software out there, what would IE add? If it exists, I see it > only as yet another way Microsoft is trying to take over the entire > monopoly. That is the object of business, anyway. > > Microsoft has always been behind the games a little when it comes to > Internetworking. In my opinion, it would be a huge step backward to start > installing Microsoft products on a highly functional Unix machine already > optimised for these sorts of things. It may pave the way for the types of > security problems that Microsoft users contend with to enter the Unix > world, as well. > > Karsten > > "Leonel Rivas" wrote: > > > > Thats it! > > Some guy toldme about a UNIX/LINUX version of the fxxxing MSIE4.0. Does > > anyone of you have it?(he he) > > or... does anyone of u will have it? (more hehe) > > Opinions? > > ______________________________________________________ > Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> > SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - > http://orders.xoom.com/email> > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5502226535421593121==-- From chjo@tripnet.se Wed Apr 7 18:23:30 1999 From: chjo@tripnet.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha! Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:23:30 +0200 Message-ID: <370BA2A1.43A8FC24@tripnet.se> In-Reply-To: <199904071637.JAA29368@www1.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8807290430911018750==" --===============8807290430911018750== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Karsten Johansson wrote: >=20 > I think the real question would be: With all the high quality Unix > networking software out there, what would IE add? If it exists, I see it > only as yet another way Microsoft is trying to take over the entire > monopoly. That is the object of business, anyway. >=20 > Microsoft has always been behind the games a little when it comes to > Internetworking. In my opinion, it would be a huge step backward to start > installing Microsoft products on a highly functional Unix machine already > optimised for these sorts of things. It may pave the way for the types of > security problems that Microsoft users contend with to enter the Unix > world, as well. >=20 > Karsten =20 Oh, gee! I didn't think it was true, but unfortunately I verified it by visiting Micosoft's site. At http://www.microsof= t.com/windows/ie/download/unix.htm> you can go and get it. I won't, that's for sure. I fear that MS-Linux is one step closer... Bye Tina -- E-MAIL: <mailto:chjo(a)tripnet.se> WEBSITE:<http://www8.tripnet.se/~chjo/>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8807290430911018750==-- From paspartu@uni.net Wed Apr 7 18:33:23 1999 From: paspartu@uni.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] [Off Topic]: For programmers Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:33:23 +0200 Message-ID: <99040720440100.02152@kamikazen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6433497393595263669==" --===============6433497393595263669== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am looking for an algorithm which basically has to solve this problem: Given two floating-point numbers it has to generate a list of numbers whose t= he last digit has an increment of 1, 2 or 5. For example, if I give xmin=3D3.141592 xmax=3D5.003 I will get 3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.4 4.6 4.8 5.0 5.2=20 If I give xmin=3D-3.0308 xmax=3D-2.964 I will get -3.03 -3.02 -3.01 -3.00 -2.99 -2.98 -2.97 -2.96 I had a look at dejanews but I couldn't find any answer. Any suggestion on how to solve this problem or where I can search for the algorithm? Ah, the algorithms is for building axis with tick marks. TIA Maurizio -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6433497393595263669==-- From yh@ottawa.com Wed Apr 7 18:37:37 1999 From: yh@ottawa.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Root password Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:37:37 -0400 Message-ID: <4.1.19990407143615.0095e010@mail.magma.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4469085716342938357==" --===============4469085716342938357== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have forgotten my root password, can I use the=20 boot disk to recover ? Ying yh(a)ottawa.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4469085716342938357==-- From lmg@webfarm.com Wed Apr 7 18:51:20 1999 From: lmg@webfarm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha! Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:51:20 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370B9F96.9ADB86C5@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9152657584989468328==" --===============9152657584989468328== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >I agree with Karsten. > >Look for instance what Microsoft did with Apple. They made out of office 98 = an >important application for Mac OS. Then they told Apple if the don't make IE >their preferred browser they won't support Office 98 anymore. > >I think it's best and most safe to use public domain and shareware product f= or >Linux if possible. And certainly don't support the MS monopoly at this time. > The MS Office/ Apple question is (from my perspective) a bit deeper than you describe. For one thing, the decision to do IE as the default browser predates the release of Office 98. Office (more specifically Word and Excel) were made important applications on the Macintosh (at least in part) by distributing copies of Office (Word 5 and Excel) for free in the early 1990's. MS gave everyone at the LA Mac User Group meeting a free copy of Office (~$395 at the time ; aprox 800 people at the meeting) and I know that this was not the only user group that got this special promotion. They effectively dumped this product into the Mac world by making it very inexpensive (even if you did pay something for it) To their credit, Word 5.1 was a very good word processor. The problem is not with the quality of Word 5.1, but the effect of their 'dumping' product into the market. The landscape for word processors and spreadsheets dried up so that Word Perfect, Nisus, Write Now and others had no market to sell to. Each of those programs had advantages over Word, and to this day, Nisus is a very powerful word processor with no market. After MS killed the market for office products by dumping Word 5.1 on the world, the came out with Word 6 which was almost completely unusable. I find it hard to believe that software that bad could be released. Of course, by this time there were no other alternatives on the Mac so to get office applications, you had to move to Windows, where the full suite of Office products works just fine thank you. Now we are at Office 98 which is not bad and in many respects very good. That does not mitigate the fact that the market is dead. I am concerned that any OS that has MS support in the way of applications is vulnerable to this sort of market-cide. The evolution of IE is a similar story. (Even with the mistakes of netscape, IE was no competition until version 4 ... and any other product that couldn't compete until the fourth generation would never have gained any market share). When Microsoft has killed all credible browser alternatives on a platform, they will make your only option to move to Windows to use their browser. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9152657584989468328==-- From hajo@mindspring.com Wed Apr 7 18:56:04 1999 From: hajo@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:56:04 -0700 Message-ID: <006a01be8128$4b147760$0c0a10ac@ffhjh.cypresscomm.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4854331164467988316==" --===============4854331164467988316== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat > >Being with Linux for quite a short time now, I heard others talking about >setting up pieces of hardware under Red Hat a lot esier than under SuSE. On the >other hand, people talk about SuSE being "the complete OS". I am using SuSE 6.0 >and indeed I have hundreds of applications on my HDD put there by the standard >installation - but I realize I don't need about maybe 600f them. >I was wondering if anyone could tell me why (if) is SuSE a better choice than >Red Hat? In fact what are the differences between those two leading (I guess) >Linux OS's? Of course SuSE has YaST, but also Red Hat has a System >Configuration tool which is pretty cool (so far as I've seen). Can you convince >me that I made a wise choice betting on SuSE? ... (by the way, what SuSE >initials stand for?) > >Dan. I tend to do (In any distribution) a minimum install and the start adding as I need things. (I have a very complete setup on my laptop taking <400 megs where it would have taken >1G if I had blindly followed SuSE packaging) SuSE has YAST. SuSE has more support for xservers build in from the CD (GLINT!) (Comparing SuSE 6.0 vs RH 5.2). RH is a market leader =3D> more books use RH configs than any other distribution. Slackware also has a good series for it that ships with it. I really like the package installer/upgrader for SuSE. > >PS. By the way, I've seen programs like Matlab which is said they're made for >Linux, in parantheses added RedHat, Debian, Slackware for instance. Does this >mean there is a posibility a program made for Linux not to run on SuSE? >-- They should all work with SuSE you might need to download extra libraries. I consider SuSE one of the best distributions. Red Hat should be thanked for the concept of RPMs though. Hajo -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4854331164467988316==-- From imm@KidsCare.Net Wed Apr 7 19:05:45 1999 From: imm@KidsCare.Net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:05:45 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0596723196366281119==" --===============0596723196366281119== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tschlemmer(a)sequeltech.com writes: >I see that MetroWerks has an announcement regarding their upcoming >version of CodeWarrior targeted specifically for Red Hat Linux. It's too >bad they are targeting a specific Linux distribution. =20 This is getting annoying it's good that linux is good support but I don't like it when they favor one distro over another. Just make a bloody linux port and let all linux distro's pick it up. I don't like the RH tactics very much and don't care to use their distro again it's not that good. Ian -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0596723196366281119==-- From Andreas.Hupfau@linuxatwork.at Wed Apr 7 19:24:48 1999 From: Andreas.Hupfau@linuxatwork.at To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Root password Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 21:24:48 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990407143615.0095e010@mail.magma.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0922564487956112622==" --===============0922564487956112622== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Y. Hum wrote: > I have forgotten my root password, can I use the=20 > boot disk to recover ? >=20 try it :) ok .. better answer : yes it works just start a rescue system, mount your partition containing /etc and edit the passwd file to erase the password for root ... But be sure that it's really YOUR OWN machine ! :) Andreas Hupfau _______ / LINUX \ | @work / \________ homepage: http://www.linuxatwork.at> email: Andreas.Hupfau(a)linuxatwork.at RIPE: AH2014-RIPE DNS-Services, free Mailinglists: http://support.linuxatwork.at> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0922564487956112622==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Wed Apr 7 19:32:47 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:32:47 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1102574630104108516==" --===============1102574630104108516== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well we haven't had a SuSE vs. Red Hat thread in a while, so in keeping with SuSE list tradition and against my better judgement....here goes. On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Jon Trygve Utne wrote: > Well, about RH vs SuSE, I think it has a lot to do with personal taste. I tend to agree. It's a matter of personal choice--- but also personal need. All distributions _aren't_ alike, so you should research or try each one and then make an informed decision. Needless to say ( though maybe not so needless to say ) choosing one dist over another doesn't imply superiority of a particular dist. It just means this dist was the one best seemed able to satisfy what that user wanted in a dist at that time. I also think if we qualify it with "Red Hat is strong in this area..." or "S.u.S.E. is strong in this area.." as opposed to inflammatory crap comparisons it's much more rational and less inflammatory than oversimplifying things with lump statements of who's dist is the best. With all due respect it can be sort of a pissing contest which accomplishes nothing in the end except get people into arguments and flamewars sometimes. > All the bundled applications means a lot to me, since there are so many=20 > people that will use these boxes for different purposes. Yes, for me as well, size was a factor. I simply can't and won't go online to download all these different programs except if I want to or have to. The size of S.u.S.E. in and of itself makes it more 'application comprehensive' out of the box than any of the others I've seen. I read on RH one day some guy saying that 'S.u.S.E. is for users who are too lazy or dumb to just go to the ftp site and download the files'--- well, it's not laziness or stupidity, I just don't really like having to do all that when I have a dist here that saves me the time so I can spend time doing other things like coding, working on other projects, or just having fun with my system. Also when you think that some people outside of NA are on hourly charges in respect to their connections and that they 'pay as they go' in terms of internet time, I imagine that not having to download all these different program from some online 'archive' winds up saving many S.u.S.E. users in other places where the internet is not so cheap a lot of dough. Since S.u.S.E. originated in Europe I imagine they are aware of this and that might be part of the reason they have so much software on their CDS. It saves their users time, money, and aggravation. Star Office for instance is huge. Can you imagine being on some slow modem connection paying by the hour or whatever downloading that thing?=20 =20 > other systems where they had to configure things manually. They like to be > in control, and they're not really sure about what the SuSE scripts > actually do.=20 If people want to configure things on their own they can turn off the 'extras' of YaST. YaST really pared down won't even touch your configuration files. I still do sendmail and everything else by hand on most machines I install S.u.S.E. on with no interference from YaST. People should look at some of the settings and just turn off the features they don't like. Being a long familiar of that dist Slakware I rather enjoy not having my files touched by alot of setup tools be it YaST, linuxconf, or anything else, but that is due to personal preference and not due to the issues of YaST. Also many of us have several machines and YaST makes it easier to get a working configuration up quickly so that you can come back later as time allows and tweak, turn off, reset, etc. In this sense I see the pros and cons of YaST and like it. Especially the option to turn off most of its features when it suits me. :-) > Hmm. I'll try to find something that _really_ annoys me about SuSE > tomorrow. :-) Well I won't say I'm annoyed but a few things:=20 I don't like the way the American website isn't given the attention I feel befits one of the best software products available. I think it needs to be more detailed and more informative and up-to-date. Many accounts say the German site is much better but I don't speak German.=20 Most of the time the packages are current. Every now and then there are those that are older than I'd like, but this is understandable when you look at the number of packages S.u.S.E. ships with. I would prefer for instance that S.u.S.E. shipped with more recent sendmail ( 8.9.3 is what I am using at this time, but I built it from sources ) than the 8.8* it ships with now. There is also occasionally an odd dependency here and there that I don't think is appropriate.=20 =20 I really think the best way to find out what the 'annoyances' are is to focus on the needs of those with no Unix, Linux, or computing experience-- for the rest of us, we can solve our own problems as that is one of the first things you learn to do. Ultimately this is probably not a S.u.S.E. thing alone, though, but a Linux thing. Reality: Linux needs to be more user friendly if it really wants to hit the main stream. What seems user friendly to most of the people on this list will seem like something from Mars to a total newbie. Isapnp for instance to many Mac users or Windows users might seem like a very foreign or tedious concept for setting up PnP devices. To a new user just learning these things can turn the hair white. I think there needs to be a lot more automation of those things where people tend to have problems where they can set things up first so that you have a realistic working system without them needing to go through a ton of 'linux lessons' on the internet. I should add that I'm not complaining and have no problems with Linux, but I could see how a new user might go 'wtf?!?!' when they look at some of the things they might have to go through depending on their experience in something so simple as setting up a PnP modem or a ppp connection. I can't emphasize this point enough, because we need to see 'how the other half lives' on this issue. Too often there is this Linux tendency ( inherited from Unix ) to just dismiss people as idiots because they don't know or have a hard time getting their system to work and in the long run this is bad for Linux and counterproductive. I have been guilty of this on more times than I like to count. When I hear people saying "It took me 6 monts to set up my ppp connection." my first thought used to be "What a f---king moron this guy must be!!". Recently I have matured abit and learned to put off the pleasurable enjoyment of feeling intellectually superior to those I used to view as 'idiots' and 'hopeless lamers' in light of seeing the big picture-- which is the promotion of Linux and other operating genres of this kind. I think the next 2 years or so of development will tell us a lot about where this thing is going-- or whether we'll still be stuck with the 'eccentric hacker's toy' image that has, for me anyway, gotten 'a bit old'. The doorway is 'user friendliness'.=20 > Bottom line is, people will never agree on these things, so the only way > for you to find out what your favourite is, is to try them all (!) and > decide for yourself. In the end once you get used to Linux-- you can customize ANY dists you use. Most of the main issues affect new users more than those who've been using Linux for a while or that came to Linux from some Unix or Unix like environment. The question seems to be to me, not a question of which dist is the best but a question of which dist gives you the most bang for your buck RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX. For me that distribution clearly happens to be S.u.S.E. Linux for its efficiency, wealth of applications, excellent user manual, contributions to the Linux community ( the other dists make good contribs as well ) , and outstanding overall quality and professionalism. Until I see a dist that can clearly outshine S.u.S.E. in the areas that I, Joe Linux User, care about I won't even consider another Linux suite. =20 > Just my 2 cents etc-etc... More like 10 cents.=20 P.S. S.u.S.E. Linux should be SuSE Linux now, I guess, but 'you know what I mean'.=20 _____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- M i c h a e l J o h n s o n -=20 e r o s @ a n d u i n . e l d a r . o r g P o w e r e d by L I N U X : K E R N E L 2 . 2 . 5 Please support Free Software and Open Source !!=20 ____________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1102574630104108516==-- From djb@redhat.com Wed Apr 7 19:45:37 1999 From: djb@redhat.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:45:37 -0400 Message-ID: <199904071945.PAA05363@chef.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <199904071645.JAA06550@www2.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8826800668629652240==" --===============8826800668629652240== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > SuSE's major strength that I see, and the reason I installed SuSE over my R= edHat=20 > Linux setup is that they are involved not only in bundling software, but al= so in=20 > preparing the drivers. SuSE wrote the drivers that support my video card u= nder=20 > X. I would have waited another month to get it from RedHat. The converse can also be true, depending on your video card, though. We had NeoMagic drivers available before anyone else did, for example. SuSE probably has better support for European ISDN devices as well. I can't think of anything else where there should be a significant difference as=20 far as device drivers, though. --Donnie -- Donnie Barnes http://www.redhat.com/~djb> djb(a)redhat.co= m "Bah." Challenge Diversity. Ignore People. Live Life. Use Linux. 879. V.=20 The more you cry, the less you'll pee. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8826800668629652240==-- From imm@KidsCare.Net Wed Apr 7 19:46:29 1999 From: imm@KidsCare.Net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha! Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:46:29 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6689740806176784019==" --===============6689740806176784019== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MAC I'd love to run linux on a G3. I wish there was a Mac version of SuSE. Love Linux Like Mac Loath Windows any and all versions. lmg(a)webfarm.com writes: > >>I agree with Karsten. >> >>Look for instance what Microsoft did with Apple. They made out of office >98 an >>important application for Mac OS. Then they told Apple if the don't make >IE >>their preferred browser they won't support Office 98 anymore. >> >>I think it's best and most safe to use public domain and shareware >product for >>Linux if possible. And certainly don't support the MS monopoly at this >time. >> > >The MS Office/ Apple question is (from my perspective) a bit deeper than >you describe. >For one thing, the decision to do IE as the default browser predates the >release of Office 98. >Office (more specifically Word and Excel) were made important applications >on the Macintosh (at least in part) by distributing copies of Office (Word >5 and Excel) for free in the early 1990's. MS gave everyone at the LA Mac >User Group meeting a free copy of Office (~$395 at the time ; aprox 800 >people at the meeting) and I know that this was not the only user group >that got this special promotion. They effectively dumped this product into >the Mac world by making it very inexpensive (even if you did pay something >for it) >To their credit, Word 5.1 was a very good word processor. The problem is >not with the quality of Word 5.1, but the effect of their 'dumping' >product >into the market. The landscape for word processors and spreadsheets dried >up so that Word Perfect, Nisus, Write Now and others had no market to sell >to. Each of those programs had advantages over Word, and to this day, >Nisus >is a very powerful word processor with no market. >After MS killed the market for office products by dumping Word 5.1 on the >world, the came out with Word 6 which was almost completely unusable. I >find it hard to believe that software that bad could be released. Of >course, by this time there were no other alternatives on the Mac so to get >office applications, you had to move to Windows, where the full suite of >Office products works just fine thank you. > >Now we are at Office 98 which is not bad and in many respects very good. >That does not mitigate the fact that the market is dead. >I am concerned that any OS that has MS support in the way of applications >is vulnerable to this sort of market-cide. >The evolution of IE is a similar story. (Even with the mistakes of >netscape, IE was no competition until version 4 ... and any other product >that couldn't compete until the fourth generation would never have gained >any market share). >When Microsoft has killed all credible browser alternatives on a platform, >they will make your only option to move to Windows to use their browser. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6689740806176784019==-- From djb@redhat.com Wed Apr 7 19:48:36 1999 From: djb@redhat.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:48:36 -0400 Message-ID: <199904071948.PAA05405@chef.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7892802987938772619==" --===============7892802987938772619== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > This is getting annoying it's good that linux is good support but I don't > like it when they favor one > distro over another. Just make a bloody linux port and let all linux > distro's pick it up. I don't like > the RH tactics very much and don't care to use their distro again it's not > that good. Opinions on good or bad aside, Red Hat doesn't use "tactics" to get companies to port to "Red Hat Linux". We don't sign exclusives or anything like that, nor do we try to sell them on doing it "Red Hat only." That's a decision companies have made on their own without help from us. --Donnie -- Donnie Barnes http://www.redhat.com/~djb> djb(a)redhat.co= m "Bah." Challenge Diversity. Ignore People. Live Life. Use Linux. 879. V.=20 The more you cry, the less you'll pee. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7892802987938772619==-- From raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu Wed Apr 7 19:52:52 1999 From: raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] One last review of things ppp, wvdial Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:52:52 -0400 Message-ID: <370BB794.6D46F95C@neuronet.pitt.edu> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] One last review of things ppp, wvdial> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8586317929734126264==" --===============8586317929734126264== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable islandwolf wrote: > 1) i removed the lock from /ppp/options > 2) i have the nameserver and the name of the isp in resolv.config > 3) wvdial has the appropriate info > 4) suseppp has the appropriate info > 5) kppp has the appropriate info >=20 > I am connecting; the pppd daemon seems to drop dead; i cannot get a > browser or a mailer to realize that i am, in fact, connected to the > beloved remote host. And then there's the small matter of how to get > lynx up in the terminal whilst wvdial is running... >=20 > Could somebody please tell me what in hell i might have > overlooked/screwed up/ or otherwise mishandled? Besides my patience... If your connection dies, then maybe you phone line is to noisy. I use kppp without problems. Here are some tips: as root, run xlogmaster (to=20 look at the system log, alternatively, you can run 'tail -f /var/log/messages' in a separate terminal), open a terminal, start kppp. 1) Start your connection, see the output in the log. 2) Wait for the connection to finish and pppd to start. Run 'ifconfig' in your terminal, see if you have a 'ppp0' entry with IPs and other info. If ifconfig does not show a ppp0 entry, then your pppd didn't start right. You should=20 have received an IP address, look in the log. 3) If ifconfig gives a ppp0 entry, then type 'route' in your terminal. Make=20 sure that the 'default' destination is set up for the remote IP that you got. See the log. If your route table is wrong then your netscape client won't know that you are networked. Why don't you post the output of ifconfig and route, that may be helpful. If (2) or (3) fails then your kppp configuration may be wrong. Enter the setup panels and edit your account. In the IP tab, make sure you have "Dynamic IP Address" checked. Add DNS entries and check "Disable existing ...". In the Gateway tab check "Default Gateway" and "Assign the Default Route ...". Good luck. --=20 Rafael Herrera Laboratory for Computational Neuroscience University of Pittsburgh http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~raffo> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8586317929734126264==-- From stevep@bash.linux-shell.net Wed Apr 7 19:58:49 1999 From: stevep@bash.linux-shell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha! Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:58:49 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370BA2A1.43A8FC24@tripnet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3590216039021439855==" --===============3590216039021439855== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Tina wrote: >=20 > Karsten Johansson wrote: > >=20 > > I think the real question would be: With all the high quality Unix > > networking software out there, what would IE add? If it exists, I see it > > only as yet another way Microsoft is trying to take over the entire > > monopoly. That is the object of business, anyway. [ ... ] > >=20 > > Karsten > =20 > Oh, gee! I didn't think it was true, but unfortunately I verified it by > visiting Micosoft's site. At > http://www.micr= osoft.com/windows/ie/download/unix.htm> you can go and get > it. I won't, that's for sure. > I fear that MS-Linux is one step closer... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I think you are right. (Unfortunately!) Some sort of "MS-Linux" would be successful for the same reasons Win9x is successful. Namely, brand name recognition.=20 /ramble on I'm no cook, (programmer), but here's a possible Redmond recipe for MS beer (linux): 1. Drain a large vat of Win98 jug wine, 2. pour in one linux kernel, 3. sprinkle in some redhat, SuSE, Debian, Caldera utilities, 4. beat mixture on high until the standard dot files are unrecognizable, 5. mix in a propriety gui-frontend to the dot files, 6. season with IE, Exchange, and other innovative MS crap, 7. Boil, reduce heat, add MS-yeast and ferment until mixture fills entire vat, adding water if needed to swell volume to 10 times normal, 8. start marketing campaign, spending $billions promoting "Microsoft invented the internet, and now linux!" 9. drain vat into 2 liter plastic jugs and sell to the MS faithful as Redmond champagne, at $189 each, and $89 for refills.=20 10. watch the cash registers fill.=20 Now you got something that no self respecting Penguin would dip his soiled back flippers in.=20 /ramble off -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3590216039021439855==-- From jerdfelt@suse.com Wed Apr 7 20:32:52 1999 From: jerdfelt@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] [Off Topic]: For programmers Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:32:52 -0700 Message-ID: <19990407133251.A22382@suse.com> In-Reply-To: <99040720440100.02152@kamikazen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8073626710346674322==" --===============8073626710346674322== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 07, 1999, Maurizio Firmani wrote: >=20 > I am looking for an algorithm which basically has to solve this problem: > Given two floating-point numbers it has to generate a list of numbers whose= the > last digit has an increment of 1, 2 or 5. For example, if I give > xmin=3D3.141592 xmax=3D5.003 > I will get > 3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.4 4.6 4.8 5.0 5.2=20 > If I give > xmin=3D-3.0308 xmax=3D-2.964 > I will get > -3.03 -3.02 -3.01 -3.00 -2.99 -2.98 -2.97 -2.96 >=20 > I had a look at dejanews but I couldn't find any answer. >=20 > Any suggestion on how to solve this problem or where I can search for the > algorithm? > Ah, the algorithms is for building axis with tick marks. Heh, talk about a bit off topic. Anyway, I'm up for a quick challenge: McVeigh:~% ./foo =20 3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.4 4.6 4.8 5.0 5.2=20 Attached is the code (all 16 lines) JE
#include 
#include 
#include 

int main(void)
{
  float f;
  float min =3D 3.141592, max =3D 5.003;
  /* float min =3D -3.0308, max =3D -2.964; */

  for(f =3D min - fmod(min, 0.2); f < (max + 0.2); f +=3D 0.2)=20
    printf("0.0 ", f);

  printf("\n");
}

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 Hi Ill try and give my 2cts here...

islandwolf wrote:

> okay -
>
> I have been using SuSE for a while.At first, i couldn't get online
> because i had a dreaded winmodem. I have followed advice to edit the
> following files:
> 1) i removed the lock from /ppp/options
> 2) i have the nameserver and the name of the isp in resolv.config
> 3) wvdial has the appropriate info
> 4) suseppp has the appropriate info
> 5) kppp has the appropriate info

Ok... here your talking about using *3* different dialup methods. I would
suggest to start with 1
and the easiest is wvdial... so  - lets get you up and connecting with that

couple of ideas
you can use wvdial from anywhere iow you dont need to screw around with
kppp
If you're in K open an xterm and run wvdial from it
(once your up and running... and feeling adventerous then mess with
suseppp)

using wvdial /etc/ppp has lock

afaik only kpp dosnt like the lock in /etc/ppp

did you run wvdialconf  /etc/wvdial.conf? and edit the that file by adding
your dialup info and uncommenting  (removing the ;  semicolon? then you
just type wvdial -thats it-
to close use ctrl c
My page has the complete wvdial readme and instructions for suse users also
my scripts for suseppp but Id get wvdial going first

>
>
> I am connecting; the pppd daemon seems to drop dead; i cannot get a
> browser or a mailer to realize that i am, in fact, connected to the
> beloved remote host. And then there's the small matter of how to get
> lynx up in the terminal whilst wvdial is running...

for lynx its /usr/bin/lynx

>
>
> Could somebody please tell me what in hell i might have
> overlooked/screwed up/ or otherwise mishandled? Besides my patience...

Hey,  I feel your pain   Ive been there!
if you dont resolve this,  mail me off the list and I'll try and help
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From hmf@softhome.net Wed Apr  7 21:24:58 1999
From: hmf@softhome.net
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] new kernal
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:24:58 -0500
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hey all

I'm in the process of downloading the 2.2.5 kernal from the suse ftp site.  I=
 tried to install  2.2.3 with no success. =20
Guess I don't know enough about what I'm doing.  Anyway, the file is pretty b=
ig, so i'm assuming its not a patch but=20
the whole thing.

I don't suppose anyone feels like walking me through this, do they?

thanks

-tf


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From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Wed Apr  7 21:59:15 1999
From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:59:15 +0100
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In message <199904071637.JAA29368(a)www1.xoommail.c=
om>
          Karsten Johansson  wrote:

>=20
> I think the real question would be:  With all the high quality Unix=20
> networking software out there, what would IE add?

Well, I for one would feel happier knowing there was more than one
well-featured browser for Linux. After all, it's not Windows; we don't *have*
to use it, but hey, what if it's better? :-) Let Netscape feel that their
Linux constituency is under threat, maybe they'll improve their product.


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From lmg@webfarm.com Wed Apr  7 22:16:29 1999
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:16:29 -0500
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Well as long as we have a motivated and diverse audience (Hello Mr Barnes)
I'd like to take a moment on the soap-box for a mid afternoon ramble...

First of all, I'd like to give great thanks for those who have developed
the distributions of Linux to the level where it is today. Thank you all
most sincerely.

Linux is straddling what may be called (for lack of a real name) the
existing economy and a new economy. Companies like SuSE and RedHat and all
the rest must exist as businesses  in the existing economy, yet Linux
itself is a catalyst for a new economy where the value (and product
differentiation) is pushed to a higher level.
It may not be immediately clear in the day to day business grind, but
applications that run on Linux (as opposed to those that run on RedHat or
SuSE or Debian or Slackware ....) is good for all companies and
applications that run only on one distribution has the net effect of
diminishing the viability of Linux as a platform.
RedHat alone does not have the credibility or impact of RedHat in the
context of the Linux community. The same is true of SuSE and all of the
distributions.

RedHat would not lose if an application were ported to Linux instead of
RedHat Linux. I believe the loss to the Linux community when applications
are targeted at a  particular distribution will hurt all distributions. (To
be clear, I'm talking about applications that are tied in some fundamental
way to a distribution ... not just file layout or library version or other
core capabilities)

At the risk of gross understatement, we need to understand that reconciling
the 'gift economy' aspects of the 'free software' world with the need to
stay in business is not easy. It is up to us as a Linux community to hold
distributions and developers to the high levels of integrity, quality and
openness that have created this amazing environment. It is also our
continued responsibility to appreciate the work that is done by
contributing code, contributing support on lists, paying for products and
all of the other ways that have grown Linux into one of the few things in
the computer world that succeed on merit and quality as opposed to press
releases.

>> This is getting annoying it's good that linux is good support but I don't
>> like it when they favor one
>> distro over another. Just make a bloody linux port and let all linux
>> distro's pick it up. I don't like
>> the RH tactics very much and don't care to use their distro again it's not
>> that good.
>
>Opinions on good or bad aside, Red Hat doesn't use "tactics" to get companies
>to port to "Red Hat Linux".  We don't sign exclusives or anything like that,
>nor do we try to sell them on doing it "Red Hat only."  That's a decision
>companies have made on their own without help from us.
>
>
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From m.lusetti@mo.nettuno.it Wed Apr  7 22:34:19 1999
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I wish to know if SuSE 6.0 (and the coming 6.1) have the right tools for maki=
ng software raid (level 0 or level 4/5), my thought was no.

And i wish to know if on a busy system (system load never under 85%) the soft=
ware raid take benefit or not.
Any exeperience with it !?

A little bit off topic but... anyone of you know the price of ICP vortex home=
 raid controller ?


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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr  8 00:26:52 1999
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On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Ian M. Moore wrote:

>=20
>=20
> MAC
> I'd love to run linux on a G3. I wish there was a Mac version of SuSE.
> Love Linux
> Like Mac
> Loath Windows any and all versions.

Just get the microkernel version. It's not SuSE, but it's still cool.
www.mklinux.apple.com. I am right in assuming that the so-called "G3" is
really just an ordinary PPC 750, right? Or is it some twisted thing upon
which Linux (gasp) won't run? I'm pretty sure it's just a PPC 750 with a
funky name. BTW, I used one once. Sweet merciful crap, that's fast! I wish
I'd had first-hand experience with the Alphas... then I'd have something
to *really* compare it to.

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From wolfsong@blaze.ca Thu Apr  8 00:35:00 1999
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Hello, All -=20

So I'm doing the grocery-shopping thing when i pop into a local computer
parts mercantile to inquire about some new parts for my beloved's
computer...i mentioned that eventually we wanted to set up a small
network at home.

To cut a long story short, merchant gifted me with several cards and 2
hubs for an arcnet setup.

7 Q's:
1) What is arcnet, as opposed to ethernet?
2) How slow or fast is arcnet? (context: a 2 computer network)
3) How easy would such a beast be to set up? (as in, could someone give
me
a faint clue of what else i might need besides the cables, and what i
will need to do to set the network up?)
4) Is arcnet of any use to set up a network over distances longer than
one's livingroom? For example, a WAN? There are 2 hubs, and about 5
cards..
5) I know that Linux will support arcnet. Does anyone else on the list
have an arcnet setup?
6) Is it good to keep the "goodies", or would it be better to donate
them and wait until we can afford ethernet setups?
7) Am i a bit silly in my enthusiasm, or do i have no discretion at all?

TIA

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From djb@redhat.com Thu Apr  8 00:41:33 1999
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> Well as long as we have a motivated and diverse audience (Hello Mr Barnes)
> I'd like to take a moment on the soap-box for a mid afternoon ramble...

[ ramble deleted ]

Your ramble is fairly accurate, but the point of the LSB=20
(http://www.linuxbase.org>) is to fix the problems you point out.
Red Hat and SuSE and other distributions are there supporting it=20
for that very reason.

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From tschlemmer@sequeltech.com Thu Apr  8 01:40:42 1999
From: tschlemmer@sequeltech.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
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FYI,

There is a version of Linux for the PPC and G3 called Yellow Dog Linux.

http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/>

Ewan Dunbar wrote:
>=20
> On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Ian M. Moore wrote:
>=20
> >
> >
> > MAC
> > I'd love to run linux on a G3. I wish there was a Mac version of SuSE.
> > Love Linux
> > Like Mac
> > Loath Windows any and all versions.
>=20
> Just get the microkernel version. It's not SuSE, but it's still cool.
> www.mklinux.apple.com. I am right in assuming that the so-called "G3" is
> really just an ordinary PPC 750, right? Or is it some twisted thing upon
> which Linux (gasp) won't run? I'm pretty sure it's just a PPC 750 with a
> funky name. BTW, I used one once. Sweet merciful crap, that's fast! I wish
> I'd had first-hand experience with the Alphas... then I'd have something
> to *really* compare it to.
>=20
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 Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux operating system makes inroads but lags behind rivals
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:09:26 -0400
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Please forgive the double Whamie if this showed up twice on the list.  I
see it in my sent file, but I didn't see it on the suse list.

use SOAPBOX qw(:opinion)
print start_soapbox,
I really like this one 'cause it presents a challenge to the Linux
community.  I really get sick of the always sunny-side up attitudes of
some Linux folks.  As long as people realize that Linux has a long way
to
go, and are willing to invest of themselves for the long haul, there is
no
beating Linux.  Right now I am only skirting around the fringes of Linux
development.  My biggest contributions so far are cheer leading and code
breaking.

Must admit I don't fully understand what was said about multiprocessor
machines.  I was under the impression that Linux had been adapted to run
on multiple processors.  I also don't fully understand the logging
issues.  Does anybody understand what this alleged shortcoming is?

To me the biggest obstacle to broad based acceptance of Linux is ease of
use.  Yes the core technological growth needs of continue, but Linux is
technologically sound enough to satisfy the needs of most desktop users.
Bill has the desktop because he gave the world what they wanted, and
because of IBM's open systems architecture contribution to computing put
him in a position to "monopolize" on his advantage.  Ease of use does
not
stop at Dad's desktop.  We SA'a like easy to use and configuration tools
as well.  And when a manager can get something of a feeling that even
*he*
could understand Linux if he really tried, then management will get
behind
Linux.  In the final analysis (the appearance of) productivity is what
matters.   If it takes 45 minutes to set up an NT server to do basic
networking, and two days to figure out Linux, NT will win.

The other front that Linux need help on is hardware vendor support.  Why
the heck should the vendors build the parts for BG's OSs and not for
Linux?  Imagine you could go to the website of the manufacturer of your
printer and download the latest printer drivers for their product.  I
know
Linux is doing very well indeed without this kind of assistance, but
suppose the guys hacking the lattest module for the lattest video card
were out there hacking KDE code instead!
end_soapbox;

Steve

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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr  8 02:20:37 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] raid software
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 04:20:37 +0200
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Massimo Lusetti wrote:
>=20
> I wish to know if SuSE 6.0 (and the coming 6.1) have the right tools for ma=
king software raid (level 0 or level 4/5), my thought was no.

This is primarily a question of kernel configuration and then some
userland tools.

CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD (Multiple Devices) will give you software raid 1/4/5
CONFIG_MD_STRIPED  will give you raid 0

Go into the kernel configuration (make menuconfig), enable the first of=20
the above options and you will get several more options. Have a look at
the help screens for each option.

You should also have a look at /usr/src/linux/Documentation/md.txt and
at the Software-RAID mini-HOWTO, e.g. at
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Lin=
ux/docs/HOWTO/mini/>
It contains lots of useful links and, I'm sure, it will tell you
about the needed userland tools.
I only know of the raidtools package, current version 0.50beta3.

> And i wish to know if on a busy system (system load never under 85%) the so=
ftware raid take benefit or not.
> Any exeperience with it !?

Sorry, no experience.

Henning


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On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Steven T. Hatton wrote:

>=20
> Please forgive the double Whamie if this showed up twice on the list.  I
> see it in my sent file, but I didn't see it on the suse list.
>=20
> use SOAPBOX qw(:opinion)
> print start_soapbox,
> I really like this one 'cause it presents a challenge to the Linux
> community.  I really get sick of the always sunny-side up attitudes of
> some Linux folks.  As long as people realize that Linux has a long way
> to
> go, and are willing to invest of themselves for the long haul, there is
> no
> beating Linux.  Right now I am only skirting around the fringes of Linux
> development.  My biggest contributions so far are cheer leading and code
> breaking.
>=20
> Must admit I don't fully understand what was said about multiprocessor
> machines.  I was under the impression that Linux had been adapted to run
> on multiple processors.  I also don't fully understand the logging
> issues.  Does anybody understand what this alleged shortcoming is?

WSJ misinterpreted the report. Linux certainly has logging facilities. All
Unix does. (Or else, my /var/log directory is just a figment of my
imagination.). Perhaps they refer to lack of a journaling filesystem. It
also has SMP support, so I don't know what they were talking about on that
other count.=20

> The other front that Linux need help on is hardware vendor support.  Why
> the heck should the vendors build the parts for BG's OSs and not for

Whoa! The Bee Gees have an OS now?

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From mclean@daytona.tunl.duke.edu Thu Apr  8 03:18:02 1999
From: mclean@daytona.tunl.duke.edu
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Fat32 workaround?
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:18:02 -0400
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So I just got my shiney new SuSe 6.0 box set, mmmm lexan...
Um, yeah, so the harddisk on my machine came setup from the retailer
having a single  FAT32 partition which encloses the entire disk which is
4.3 Gb.  Only about a gig is occupied.  Is there a way to preserve the
used portion while repartitioning, i.e., simply shrink the current
partition to make room for the new linux ones?
Preesh in advance for assistance,
Lance--=20

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From skoper@mediaone.net Thu Apr  8 03:48:30 1999
From: skoper@mediaone.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 and masquerading. Works, but...
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:48:30 -0400
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Robert,

     I could have written this message myself.  I'm in the same boat.  The
 ipfwadm-wrapper thing didn't work, and besides, the documentation says not
to use it if
 you're using ipchains, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense, since why
would you
want to use it otherwise.

     I downloaded the ipchains 1-point-something files the other day, and
 got a couple of  files out of it, masquerade and routable (well, there are
three files
 actually).  The  documentation says that masquerade is for inside networks,
and routable
is for gateways, but that's confusing because I think I'm running my linux
box as the gateway to the
 internet, so routable sounds like it makes more sense.  But running
masquerade sets up  both the IP network (198.168.10.0/24 in my case) and the
gateway to my isp (through a  cable modem).

     I also went to Rob Ziegler's web site and ran is ipchains script
generator.  It's keyed  for redhat and generates an rc.firewall script based
on your individual input.  I figured I'd  create a script, and that would
give me the entries I need to use with  ipchains, and I could  plug it in.

     But I'm not sure where to plug it in, given as you note, that SuSE
seems to have hard  coded ipfwadm into the startup script.  Anyway, to make
this long story  longer, I put a masquerade script from ipchains-firewall
(which has a typo init, BTW, and I'm doing this at 10:30-12.00 at night,
which is the only time I seem to have any free time these days), so on boot
up I reach a point where it identifies a series of ipfwadm errors,  telling
me several times that SETSOCKOPT failed, because a protocol not found (or
not available), and after about 12 lines of that (probably one for each
"protocol", like ftp and telnet) it starts a new set using ipchains, and
then I get a bunch of error messages along similar lines, although  this
time the protocols (like ICMP) are actually mentioned, it tells me (IIRC)
that I have a null string (or something like that) and moves on.

     Now, I have three methods of booting up.  I can physically change hard
drives.  My 2.1 gig HD has SuSE 5.3 and kernel 2.0.35 on it, and that's my
fall back. The other , a 3.1 gig, has SuSE 6.0 on it, and has both the
2.0.36 kernel, which I can boot from a floppy, and 2.2.5, which boots
"normally".

     If I boot the 3.1 gig drive using the boot floppy I get the a whole set
of error messages, but I boot into 2.0.36, ipfwadm is "in charge" and my
ipforwarding works. If I boot the 3.1 gig drive without the floppy,  I go to
kernel 2.2.5, I see the same error messages, and ipforwarding doesn't
work--everything is blocked.

     More curiously, when I execute "shutdown -h now" or "reboot" on the 3.1
drive (whether booted from floppy or HD), I see the *same* sets of error
messages for ipchains, and at the end of it, it says something like
"Firewall is Set Up" or whatever it's supposed to say when the script runs
at boot up.  I don't think it should
be doing that, but  it probably gives someone out there a clue as to where
this script is that's running, since  there can't be too many that run both
coming and going.

    One other oddity.  When I type just plain "route" in SuSE 6.0, the
program/command hangs (it didn't use to).  When I type "route -n" it works,
but everything is listed twice.   Why?  Is route getting information from
two places?  Should I delete all  route.conf information?  (I don't think
so).

    Anyway, you're not alone.

 Stan Koper

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert C Paulsen Jr 
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date: Sunday, April 04, 1999 11:44 PM
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 and masquerading. Works, but...

>
>Yes, I have it working but...
>
>I use the script below to start masquerading on my freshly installed 2.2.5
>kernel (on SuSE 6.0) and it seems to be working OK.
>
>But I would like to get it working the "right way" using the boot scripts
in
>/sbin/init.d. I see that the ipfwadm script checks for ipfwadm vs. ipchains
for
>accounting but the masquerade script has ipfwadm hard coded and doesn't
>appear to understand ipchains. Am I missing something? Is there another
>rpm package I should download?
>
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D[ my script ]=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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>#!/bin/sh
>#
>IPFDIR=3D/sbin
>$IPFDIR/ipchains -P forward DENY
>$IPFDIR/ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s 192.168.0.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0
>$IPFDIR/ipchains -M -S 900 120 300
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From mistrM@gtemail.net Thu Apr  8 06:09:47 1999
From: mistrM@gtemail.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:09:47 -0700
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Greetings:

I agree that both RedHat and SuSE distros have their great points and
shortcomings.

There is something that no one who has replied has touched upon:

What about the companies themselves?

RedHat was the first Linux distro I ever used.  I thought the company
produced a great product and I had planned on staying with it until the
release of 5.2.  Why?  I was upset to find out RedHat purposely shipped 5.2
with a PRE-release 2.0.36 kernel just so they could get their product on
store shelves and claim they had the first Linux distro that would run the
new 2.2.x kernel.  Let's not forget the cash that this generated or the
press they got which I'm sure did the company no harm in the subsequent
deals they made.  Frankly, if I wanted more Betaware I would still be buying
from Microsoft.

My whole interest in Linux was to escape from companies like Microsoft, IBM,
and Apple that put profits above the quality of their product and use strong
arm tactics to control the market and its users.

SuSE on the other hand has delayed releases to fix bugs that were found at
the last minute in some of their products.  This impresses me to NO end.  A
company that cares about the quality of their product more than their
balance at the bank.  WOW!

Don't get me wrong.  I'm not against anyone making money.  But if a company
wants my business they need to show me that I'm more important than signing
deals with major PC manufacturers.  They can do this by not selling me a
shoddy product in a box.

I am a member of several LUGs (Linux User's Groups) and I attended the Linux
Expo.  The comments I have made seem to be shared by a great many other
people.  Many Linux users are afraid of RedHat becoming the next Microsoft.
Red Hat only products and deals may have something to do with this.  Only
time will tell if these fears are justified.

RH has also been very lax about releasing fixes for known bugs/exploits
lately.  You can read all the complaints on Usenet or lists such as bugtraq.

For all the cash that RedHat now has at its disposal I think we should be
seeing a far better product from this company.  Less time at the bank and
Mercedes Benz dealership and more time producing a rock solid release!?!

SuSE isn't perfect but I feel better investing my hard earned dollars with
this company.

As a consumer your spending power is often the only real voice you have.
Use it wisely.

Mario


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From kar@webline.dk Thu Apr  8 06:23:10 1999
From: kar@webline.dk
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 08:23:10 +0200
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What happened to SuSE Linux for the Alpha chip? There were words about
it being the next thing after 6.0 is out, but it seems that 6.1 is
first. Not that it is a bad thing, but did Alpha die, or is it
progressing?


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From alain.buret@village.uunet.be Thu Apr  8 06:23:12 1999
From: alain.buret@village.uunet.be
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] AfterStep & SuSE
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Hi everybody

I installed SuSE6.0 a few days ago, with lots of things like Afterstep
...
I have a simple question : how can I change the Afterstep configuration
? How can I use a downloaded theme ?
I took a ~/.steprc and system.steprc (which cannot be modified) ... SuSE
seems to control everything but is not very simple to configure exactly
... I was using Slakware with KDE before, so it's a lot of change from
day-to-day.
I've downloaded Afterstep themes from as.themes.org, but readme files
doesn't explain how to install them ... "copy the files at the right
place and adapt the right files" seems to be the only explanation for
installation.

Well, is someone has experience in Afterstep within SuSE, his experience
would be appreciated.

Alain BURET
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From mha@suse.de Thu Apr  8 07:07:59 1999
From: mha@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] raid software
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:07:59 +0200
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Massimo Lusetti wrote:

> I wish to know if SuSE 6.0 (and the coming 6.1) have the right tools
> for making software raid (level 0 or level 4/5), my thought was no.

insatll package mdutils:

rpm -qip mdutils.rpm
----------------
Name        : mdutils                     Distribution: SuSE Linux 6.1
(i386)
Version     : 0.41                              Vendor: SuSE GmbH,
Nuernberg, Ge
Release     : 50                            Build Date: Thu Apr  8
01:31:23 1999
Install date: (not installed)               Build Host: Fubini.suse.de
Group       : unsorted                      Source RPM:
mdutils-0.41-50.src.rpm
Size        : 293729                           License: 1999 - not
specified
Packager    : feedback(a)suse.de
Summary     : Utilities for 'Multiple Devices'
Description :
You can combine different partitions (including SCSI and IDE) to one
partition under Linux. More information can be found under
/usr/doc/packages/mdutils an in the man pages for add, mdcreate and mdtab.
Please be aware that the author himself considers this software as ALPHA.
We at SuSE have not encountered any problems however.


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From mha@suse.de Thu Apr  8 07:10:47 1999
From: mha@suse.de
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:10:47 +0200
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

> What happened to SuSE Linux for the Alpha chip? There were words about
> it being the next thing after 6.0 is out, but it seems that 6.1 is
> first. Not that it is a bad thing, but did Alpha die, or is it
> progressing?

AFAIK it's planned to be released (6.1 for AXP) sometime next month (May).


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From kukuk@suse.de Thu Apr  8 07:22:48 1999
From: kukuk@suse.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Alpha
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:22:48 +0200
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Hello,

On Thu, Apr 08, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

>=20
> What happened to SuSE Linux for the Alpha chip? There were words about
> it being the next thing after 6.0 is out, but it seems that 6.1 is
> first. Not that it is a bad thing, but did Alpha die, or is it
> progressing?

Alpha didn't die. We work on it. In the moment it looks like we could
release it due the next weeks/month.

 Thorsten


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From grimmer@suse.de Thu Apr  8 07:34:07 1999
From: grimmer@suse.de
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Subject: RE: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:34:07 +0200
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Hi,

On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, James (Jim) Hatridge wrote:

> I'm with you guys I don't mind paying (a little :)). But my question
> about Opera is will I be able to do my banking with it. Right now I
> have to use NS for the encytion (sp?). That's about the only reason I
> use NS, otherwise I use Lynx.

I guess this depends on your banking software. If it uses Java, there
shouldn't be a problem. See http://www.operasoftware.com> for=
 further
details.

Bye,
        LenZ


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From im@hem.passagen.se Thu Apr  8 08:05:47 1999
From: im@hem.passagen.se
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fat32 workaround?
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If I'm not uttrely misstaken; The current version of the Linux
dos-utility "fips" should take care of just that...
Usaly found on your cd's...
Othervice; Partition magic or any other repartition-program
should do.

I used fips a cople of years back on a Slackware release.
Fat16 though... Worked great.
The most resent version is supposed to handle Fat32 aswell...

Good luck!

/Rikard Johnels

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From kester@cwcom.net Thu Apr  8 09:16:34 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:16:34 +0100
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I think very little, *but* it does miff me a bit when Yast overwrites
certain files (or rather, SuSEconfig does) everytime you run it; e.g. kdmrc,
ppp stuff...  and there are many ocassions when running every update tool
(such as those for teTeX) is irratatingly slow.  However, I do like the idea
of a central rc.config file with variables you can set which then run
scripts as you enter a particular run level.  IMHO, this is a nice feature
once you get the hang of it.
k.

:Hmm. I'll try to find something that _really_ annoys me about SuSE
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From sinthetk@gothic.net Thu Apr  8 10:27:53 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas
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I would assume it because he needs the 128 bit version, because I know
that CIBC in Toronto..( my wife's bank ) won't let you even access
anything sensitive unless you are using a 128 bit browser. *shrug* that
would be my guess.

laters,

> > I'm with you guys I don't mind paying (a little :)). But my question
> > about Opera is will I be able to do my banking with it. Right now I
> > have to use NS for the encytion (sp?). That's about the only reason I
> > use NS, otherwise I use Lynx.
>=20
> I guess this depends on your banking software. If it uses Java, there
> shouldn't be a problem. See http://www.operasoftware.com> fo=
r further
> details.
>=20
> Bye,
>         LenZ


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From klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu Thu Apr  8 10:41:49 1999
From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:41:49 +0000
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Kinda off-topic, off course...but one of the reasons that OS/2 can't easily a=
nd currently go open source (even if IBM wanted to,=20
which is doubtful: OS/2 still makes considerable money for IBM in markets whe=
re it's entrenched), is that M$ *already* owns=20
chunks of OS/2 code (and not just winos2 code either) dating back to the earl=
y days of the IBM/Microsoft joint project, when=20
the early OS was being touted as "Microsoft OS/2".  IBM can't open-source wha=
t's proprietary to Microsoft --all surviving M$=20
code would have to be rewritten.

IBM really used to do some dopey deals.     If you want open source, better a=
ll in all to pin your trust to Linux; certainly don't=20
hold your breath waiting for open-source OS/2.

--Kevin

On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:04:31 -0700, Karsten Johansson wrote:

>
>Excellent... you put on a good show all around.  :)
>
>I just hope that it doesn't happen.
>
>My understanding is that IBM is planning on putting OS/2 Warp on the Open So=
urce=20
>market to give another alternative to Microsoft products.  Whether or not yo=
u=20
>like OS/2, this is a pretty cool idea.  Microsoft can't buy OS/2.
>
>Besides, if this ever happens, it would be cool to see all these excellent G=
NU=20
>utilities and Linux things ported to OS/2 where it can then be accepted by t=
he=20
>general public who is scared to death of anything that smells like Unix.
>
>Laters,
>  Karsten Johansson
>
>Steve Pauly wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> > I'm no cook, (programmer), but here's a possible Redmond recipe for MS
> > beer (linux):
>
> > --- snip snip snip ---
>
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From grimmer@suse.de Thu Apr  8 10:52:32 1999
From: grimmer@suse.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 12:52:32 +0200
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Well,

it was about time for a thread like this :)

On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 djb(a)redhat.com wrote:

Welcome back, Donnie! I hoped to meet you at CeBit, you missed a great
show.

> > SuSE's major strength that I see, and the reason I installed SuSE over my=
 RedHat=20
> > Linux setup is that they are involved not only in bundling software, but =
also in=20
> > preparing the drivers.  SuSE wrote the drivers that support my video card=
 under=20
> > X.  I would have waited another month to get it from RedHat.
>=20
> The converse can also be true, depending on your video card, though. =20
> We had NeoMagic drivers available before anyone else did, for example.

Just to get it straight: neither Red Hat nor SuSE actually _wrote_ these
drivers themselves. Red Hat, for example, consulted Precision Insight to
write the i740 and Neomagic X-Servers, while SuSE coordinated the
development and negotiated between the hardware vendors and the XFree86
developers (which also got paid from SuSE for their work). Credit where
credit is due...

> SuSE probably has better support for European ISDN devices as well. =20

But the support for Cable Modems (DHCP anyone?) is weaker, since these
devices are not very common in Europe...

> I can't think of anything else where there should be a significant
> difference as far as device drivers, though.

Well, we also offer some additional binary-only kernel drivers, but that
should be it.

Bye,
        LenZ


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From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr  8 10:57:56 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Multi modems
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 06:57:56 -0400
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Hi
I was wondering if anyone had information or had been succesful at using 2
modems for one dialup connection.
I have an internal 56k /dev/ttyS0  identified and in use by wvdial
other is an external 56k that was on the w98 box but since Im using
ipmasquerading I never use the external.
So i moved the external to the linux and set it for /dev/ttys2
 But I would really like to use 2 modems at once ;->
Is this possible? Ive looked thru the modem HOWTOS but it dosent see to=20
be too popular of a subject.
any ideas?=20
thanks=20
rob

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From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Thu Apr  8 11:01:04 1999
From: bobbyg@ihug.co.nz
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Free Type?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 23:01:04 +1200
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Hi Yall,

first off, thanx to the people @ SuSE, for an excellent distro!    :-)

Second, help..... I loath the crappy grainy quality of the fonts in X11
& long for the smooth one'z from my *cough-cough*, Crash95 days. So, the
Free Type package included in the SuSE 6.0 says it's a "Font Library"
but not a "Font Server". Ergo, I guess I need a font server to view good
quality text in the KDE environment. (Gnome & Enlightenment have
font-smoothing built in; but I am happy with KDE, except for.....)

Where does one get such a beast as a Font Server & how have my fellow
SuSE users found them to be? Or, can someone point me to a How-To or
some such, to set one up?

*BFN*

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From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr  8 11:25:19 1999
From: dizzy73@connix.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Color pine
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 07:25:19 -0400
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With all the talk about "to hell with netscape..." Im interested if anyone
has gotten pine to run in color?
A while back... I went to pines site and forund a link to someones site
who wrote a patch to have pine run in color, however when I applied it it
broke my existing pine so I gave up. IF I remember correctly the errors
where something referring to "hunks"
I like the look of tin and would realy like to get my pine in color.
Having the subject-sender and text black and white gets a little tough on
the eyes.
Anyone do this?
thanks
rob

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From roed@hem.utfors.se Thu Apr  8 11:45:48 1999
From: roed@hem.utfors.se
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 13:45:48 +0200
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Hi Mr. M!

On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Mr. M wrote:

> Many Linux users are afraid of RedHat becoming the next Microsoft. Red
> Hat only products and deals may have something to do with this.  Only
> time will tell if these fears are justified.

Maby it will be the Windows 3000. :-)

> SuSE isn't perfect but I feel better investing my hard earned dollars with
> this company.

Yep! That's the way I feel to.

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From jlr@soltec.net Thu Apr  8 12:23:31 1999
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 [SuSE Linux] sndconfig...where is this, SuSE 6.0, where is this? et al
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 07:23:31 -0500
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I am a newbie to Linux, SuSE in particular.  I have installed, in the past,
& used FreeBSD (2.2.6).

I recently was impressed enough with what I heard about Linux, SuSE in
particular, that I bought it.

My machine is MSNT based, as follows:
AMD K6-2/350
64MB SDRAM
Canopus Total 3D PCI video card, with Rendition, and Verite 1000 chip
Creative Labs Sound BLaster PCI 128 sound card
Symbios Logic 53C416 SCSI card (came w/ my HP Scanjet 4P.)
ATAPI CD ROM (Warhens? generic from Best Buy)
Motorola Bitsurfer 288 internal modem (Legacy)
3 internal hard drives. c:\ is NT 4.0 with NTFS. SuSE is on its own,
dedicated hdd, and I boot from a floppy, TO Lilo, until I get brave enough
to strip the MBR from the floppy and move it over to c:\.  Okay?  Here're my
questions.
Printer is an HP LaserJet 1100

I have no sound, either in X-term, or KDE. I typed "sndconfig" as root, but
the response is that there is no such command. I can put a music CD in,
press play, & see the activity in the player, and it's reading the CD's
properties correctly, but no sound.  My first question is, how can I
configure my sound card, or better yet, will I be able to?

Second question: I can't find my modem & successfully querry it from KPPP.
In NT it's com 2; in SuSE, it's ttyS1, but the response when that device is
selected in KPPP is always "modem busy."  *IF* however, I select device as
3, as in ttyS3, cua3, etc., it will querry the modem, and I hear it *START*
to dial, then KPPP tells me "modem querry timed out." I've checked my conf
file & fs tab, etc., and the modem is there, and I've used YAST over & again
to install the modem.  I tried going to an X-Term and typing "ln -s
/dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem"  When I do, the response is that it already exists.
The modem is PNP, but I have PNP disabled via jumper.  I have configured
networking as PPP & the PPP device as modem. I have no NIC, and my sole
connection to the 'net is my ISP, which uses dynamic IP. Should I edit a
file's properties & make this device cua1? TtyS1 surprised me, as I expected
it to be cua1. I had this problem with FreeBSD, where it tried to make my
mouse a tty, as opposed to a cua; when I edited the properties, all was
fine. I just don't know what file(s) to edit, for sure.

Third question: has anyone been able to use the Symbios SCSI card I
mentioned?  I hate to have to go out & buy another SCSI card just to use
Linux, but from what I've seen, I'd be willing.  It sure looks good to me.

Thank you so much, in advance, for the help. :)

Jeff Rogers
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www.soltec.net/~jlr
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--===============7310220870300572285==-- From slockhar@cadvision.com Thu Apr 8 13:01:43 1999 From: slockhar@cadvision.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 07:01:43 -0600 Message-ID: <003d01be81bf$fcd1d820$8c8794cf@slockhar> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4860351489327725794==" --===============4860351489327725794== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe Opera is 128-bit. -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin A. Rosenberg To: SuSE Linux Mailing List Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 4:38 AM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas > >I would assume it because he needs the 128 bit version, because I know >that CIBC in Toronto..( my wife's bank ) won't let you even access >anything sensitive unless you are using a 128 bit browser. *shrug* that >would be my guess. > >laters, > >> > I'm with you guys I don't mind paying (a little :)). But my question >> > about Opera is will I be able to do my banking with it. Right now I >> > have to use NS for the encytion (sp?). That's about the only reason I >> > use NS, otherwise I use Lynx. >>=20 >> I guess this depends on your banking software. If it uses Java, there >> shouldn't be a problem. See http://www.operasoftware.com> f= or further >> details. >>=20 >> Bye, >> LenZ > >--=20 >Ben Rosenberg >mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net >"Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4860351489327725794==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Thu Apr 8 14:04:31 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha! Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 07:04:31 -0700 Message-ID: <199904081404.HAA01527@www1.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7917352060933896230==" --===============7917352060933896230== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excellent... you put on a good show all around. :) I just hope that it doesn't happen. My understanding is that IBM is planning on putting OS/2 Warp on the Open Sou= rce=20 market to give another alternative to Microsoft products. Whether or not you= =20 like OS/2, this is a pretty cool idea. Microsoft can't buy OS/2. Besides, if this ever happens, it would be cool to see all these excellent GN= U=20 utilities and Linux things ported to OS/2 where it can then be accepted by th= e=20 general public who is scared to death of anything that smells like Unix. Laters, Karsten Johansson Steve Pauly wrote: >=20 >=20 > I'm no cook, (programmer), but here's a possible Redmond recipe for MS > beer (linux): > --- snip snip snip --- ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - http://orders.xoom.com/email> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7917352060933896230==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Thu Apr 8 14:07:04 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha! Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 07:07:04 -0700 Message-ID: <199904081407.HAA02313@www1.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] IE4.01 for Unix/Linux? ha ha ha!> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1665556000865230824==" --===============1665556000865230824== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rachel Greenham wrote: >=20 > In message <199904071637.JAA29368(a)www1.xoommai= l.com> > Karsten Johansson wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > I think the real question would be: With all the high quality Unix=20 > > networking software out there, what would IE add? >=20 > Well, I for one would feel happier knowing there was more than one > well-featured browser for Linux. After all, it's not Windows; we don't *ha= ve* > to use it, but hey, what if it's better? :-) Let Netscape feel that their > Linux constituency is under threat, maybe they'll improve their product. I am sure that Microsoft, like they have done so many times in the past, will= =20 make sure that you somehow come to rely on it, and then it won't be free anym= ore. Karsten ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - http://orders.xoom.com/email> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1665556000865230824==-- From chjo@tripnet.se Thu Apr 8 14:14:47 1999 From: chjo@tripnet.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Free Type? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:14:47 +0200 Message-ID: <370CB9D7.89D3DF24@tripnet.se> In-Reply-To: <370C8C70.EB233143@ihug.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3381932343447970355==" --===============3381932343447970355== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bobby Geortgilakis wrote: >=20 > Hi Yall, >=20 > first off, thanx to the people @ SuSE, for an excellent distro! :-) >=20 > Second, help..... I loath the crappy grainy quality of the fonts in X11 > & long for the smooth one'z from my *cough-cough*, Crash95 days. So, the > Free Type package included in the SuSE 6.0 says it's a "Font Library" > but not a "Font Server". Ergo, I guess I need a font server to view good > quality text in the KDE environment. (Gnome & Enlightenment have > font-smoothing built in; but I am happy with KDE, except for.....) >=20 > Where does one get such a beast as a Font Server & how have my fellow > SuSE users found them to be? Or, can someone point me to a How-To or > some such, to set one up? >=20 > *BFN* >=20 > Greek Geek. Hi! You should get xfstt. That's the fontserver you're looking for. I'm using it myself and am very happy with it! Tina --=20 Linux - The choice of a GNU generation Homepage: [http://www8.tripnet.se/~chjo/>] -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3381932343447970355==-- From ajtudo0@engr.uky.edu Thu Apr 8 14:31:42 1999 From: ajtudo0@engr.uky.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] DVD Support? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:31:42 -0400 Message-ID: <01BE81AA.FFCFBB60@P2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0707182697407258988==" --===============0707182697407258988== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know the latest about DVD support for Linux? Specifically for the creative labs DVD / Drx2 Mpeg package. Andy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0707182697407258988==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Thu Apr 8 15:03:13 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Alpha Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:03:13 +0200 Message-ID: <370CC531.8A224305@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <19990408092248.A27411@allen.suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4955706242802278270==" --===============4955706242802278270== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thorsten Kukuk wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > On Thu, Apr 08, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: >=20 > > > > What happened to SuSE Linux for the Alpha chip? There were words about > > it being the next thing after 6.0 is out, but it seems that 6.1 is > > first. Not that it is a bad thing, but did Alpha die, or is it > > progressing? >=20 > Alpha didn't die. We work on it. In the moment it looks like we could > release it due the next weeks/month. >=20 > Thorsten >=20 Yes. I can confirm that. I have see a beta-release as a giveaway from CBit. It was a tombola price on the last LUG meeting. Since there was only 1 interested person we even hadn=C5=BDt to draw lots. ;-)) Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4955706242802278270==-- From mqf090@lulu.acns.nwu.edu Thu Apr 8 15:09:11 1999 From: mqf090@lulu.acns.nwu.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Fixed (width) Font Server Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:09:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990408100911.0076d4d0@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> In-Reply-To: <370CB9D7.89D3DF24@tripnet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8151704913267737088==" --===============8151704913267737088== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there anything as a fixed font server? I'm running xfstt and while I'm able to use my TrueType fonts, the fixed width font options still has the same choices - e.g., fixed width fonts in Netscape . . . Any suggestions? ----------------------------------------- Mac Q. Flores IV Northwestern University LinuxPowered K e r n e l 2.2.5 ----------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8151704913267737088==-- From mjburke@wmfinc.com Thu Apr 8 15:19:11 1999 From: mjburke@wmfinc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ATI Rage Fury and SuSE 6.0 Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 08:19:11 -0700 Message-ID: <001801be81d3$28921f20$3100a8c0@mjburke46> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7046339131192805636==" --===============7046339131192805636== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I cannot get the ATI Rage Fury to work, I have tried many suggestions including using the Banshee workaround using the Frame Buffer, but the Xserver still fails to starts, In the directions it does say that it was using Xfree 3.3.2, and SusE comes with 3.3.3. ---------- Marshall -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7046339131192805636==-- From nickaa@soldier.net Thu Apr 8 15:57:17 1999 From: nickaa@soldier.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Upgrade SuSE Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:57:17 +0400 Message-ID: <19990408195717.A2334@l-card.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8782243563240901159==" --===============8782243563240901159== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How can i update packages from update directory on ftp with YaST ? PS soory for my poor english... --=20 /NiCKAA KiLLER (mailto: nickaa(a)soldier.net) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8782243563240901159==-- From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Thu Apr 8 16:23:02 1999 From: chuckwm_98@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:23:02 -0700 Message-ID: <19990408162302.9103.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6347239610559425407==" --===============6347239610559425407== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, While I usually hate threads such as these I can't help myself but respond. Both RedHat and SuSE are making incredible strides in bringing Linux to the masses. Here is my unqualified opinion having used just about every major distribution: Redhat is great for the newbie. It does everything for you(practically that is). I was not very fond of 5.0 or 5.1 for that matter...but 5.2 seems quite good(Stable?). I found it harder to move on from newbie to intermediate+ using it though. SuSE is what I choose to use now. I find it quite easy to install for most things. Sound is not as easy to install. But X(with Sax) could not get any easier. I have also found that SuSE pushes you more towards learning the ins and outs of your system...Definately not a bad thing. And the 450 page book is incredible. Kudos to the writers. Lastly...being biased as the KDE documentation coordinator...It installs KDE by default(ducking). What I would like to see is the wars to stop between all of the dists and perhaps have them all move towards some sort of a standard. But that seems to be a pipe dream...Every *nix OS I have to work on does something different. It makes it fun but a pain in the buttocks at times as well. =20 Well...those are all the thoughts I will bore you with ATM. Thanks for reading this...those that did. Just remember kids: Linux=3DLinux it all starts with the same kernel... Chuck MacKinnon _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6347239610559425407==-- From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Thu Apr 8 16:33:38 1999 From: chuckwm_98@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fat32 workaround? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:33:38 -0700 Message-ID: <19990408163338.15610.rocketmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Fat32 workaround?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2358666374184437806==" --===============2358666374184437806== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable fips 2.0 works incredibly well with fat32...Can't do some of the things partition magic can though...but if you have one drive and want to split it up...fips is your man...just be sure to defragment first....very important. --- "R. Johnels" wrote: >=20 > If I'm not uttrely misstaken; The current version of > the Linux > dos-utility "fips" should take care of just that... > Usaly found on your cd's... > Othervice; Partition magic or any other > repartition-program > should do. >=20 > I used fips a cople of years back on a Slackware > release. > Fat16 though... Worked great. > The most resent version is supposed to handle Fat32 > aswell... >=20 > Good luck! >=20 > /Rikard Johnels > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to > majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > archive at > http://www.s= use.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2358666374184437806==-- From henrique@ifi.unicamp.br Thu Apr 8 16:52:05 1999 From: henrique@ifi.unicamp.br To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:52:05 +0000 Message-ID: <370CDEB5.1AF2FB84@ifi.unicamp.br> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8831003405415950890==" --===============8831003405415950890== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ole Kofoed Hansen wrote: >=20 > With a 486/33, you want PCI, since you probably do not have > an AGP slot. >=20 Hey, Take care, some old 486/33 don't have even PCI slot, maybe you need an ISA card... henrique -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8831003405415950890==-- From mcleod@ssc.es Thu Apr 8 16:52:31 1999 From: mcleod@ssc.es To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] A new article on linux distros! Suse the most favorable rating. Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:52:31 +0200 Message-ID: <002601be81e0$94365a40$57cc37c3@interssc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7744698935021954494==" --===============7744698935021954494== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello all!
I'll be publishing on a spanish magazine an article about different linux distros, Suse gets my best rating. It'll be published on May.
Thanks in advance,
Vicente Werner
--===============7744698935021954494==-- From webmaster@prover.com.br Thu Apr 8 16:58:09 1999 From: webmaster@prover.com.br To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SetUID perl script Problem Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 13:58:09 -0300 Message-ID: <002d01be81e0$fb188c60$5902fbc8@prover.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3246681066709390647==" --===============3246681066709390647== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi guys!
I've write a perl script suid root that runs ok in a 5.3 = box=20 but in my 6.0 box it isnt running.
I get this message:
"Cant do setuid"
I've written a C wrapper and it is running as root but th= e=20 script itself refuses to run as root in 6.0
Can someone give a tip on this?
--===============3246681066709390647==-- From hajo@mindspring.com Thu Apr 8 17:11:24 1999 From: hajo@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Sick of it! CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:11:24 -0700 Message-ID: <004501be81e2$d59bebb0$0c0a10ac@ffhjh.cypresscomm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3892626600413953261==" --===============3892626600413953261== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm getting sick of this thread! Show me a program that runs on Red Hat and doesn't on another distribution! (i might have to download some libraries but that's not too hard.) Metrowerks does NOT say that it only works with Red Hat; just that they're doing a bundling deal. I am sick of platform wars; are we getting distribution wars now?!? Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux > > Blah, blah, blah... > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3892626600413953261==-- From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Thu Apr 8 17:30:42 1999 From: jboonen@Worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] A new article on linux distros! Suse the most favorable rating. (READABILITY) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:30:42 +0200 Message-ID: <370CE7C2.DD2E1728@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <002601be81e0$94365a40$57cc37c3@interssc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6565655118025240538==" --===============6565655118025240538== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Vicente, Can you please sent the email as plain text. This quite difficult to read. Regards, Joop Boonen. "Vicente A.S. Werner" wrote: > Hello all! I'll be publishing on a spanish magazine an article > about different linux distros, Suse gets my best rating. It'll be > published on May. Thanks in advance, Vicente Werner -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6565655118025240538==-- From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Thu Apr 8 17:36:13 1999 From: jboonen@Worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Email in plain text please Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:36:13 +0200 Message-ID: <370CE90D.3E52A0A9@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1619112110214764295==" --===============1619112110214764295== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, Lately i see more often in this mailing list that people tend to use attributes in their emails like background colours. This doesn't improve the readability. So i ask you all. Can you please sent your email as plain text? Regards, Joop Boonen. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1619112110214764295==-- From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Thu Apr 8 17:42:20 1999 From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:42:20 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3071716408529551571==" --===============3071716408529551571== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all; Thanks for all your help with teaching about hardware. Now I've another question. I'm looking at video cards. There seems to be two types PCI and AGP. What is the differece and which type should I look at? I have an old 486/33 with 8mb ram etc. TIA! J I M ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany=20 hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ---------------------------------------------- Tired of "King Klinton I" & the Oral Office? Join the Libertarian Party! Check out www.lp.org -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3071716408529551571==-- From deh@ip.pt Thu Apr 8 17:48:06 1999 From: deh@ip.pt To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:48:06 +0100 Message-ID: <370CEBD6.80505EE3@ip.pt> In-Reply-To: <370C84A9.CD43DE1C@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0970113757492038450==" --===============0970113757492038450== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Then you should be OK - Opera was developed in Europe and therefore doesn't have to obey stupid laws. There's no "40-bit" version of Opera, it has had 128-bit encryption from the start.=20 IMHO Opera is to Netscape as Linux is to Windows. (I'm talking about speed, efficiency and stability, not open source/free software). "Benjamin A. Rosenberg" wrote: >=20 > I would assume it because he needs the 128 bit version, because I know > that CIBC in Toronto..( my wife's bank ) won't let you even access > anything sensitive unless you are using a 128 bit browser. *shrug* that > would be my guess. >=20 > laters, >=20 > > > I'm with you guys I don't mind paying (a little :)). But my question > > > about Opera is will I be able to do my banking with it. Right now I > > > have to use NS for the encytion (sp?). That's about the only reason I > > > use NS, otherwise I use Lynx. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0970113757492038450==-- From Andy@nerds.co.uk Thu Apr 8 17:50:30 1999 From: Andy@nerds.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] New user Novell question Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:50:30 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4439601506847034836==" --===============4439601506847034836== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been using SuSE 6.0 for a little while at home. Now I want to install it on my new machine at work, and ditch Win95. My question is can I get Linux to act as a client on a Novell 4.11 network? Is there a VLM/NETX type program for Linux? --=20 http= ://www.nerds.co.uk> The place for computer enthusiasts Andy Thomson _ High Wycombe, Bucks. /_\ ht= tp://come.to/athomson> / | \ Windows Error #02: Multitasking attempted. System confused. =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4439601506847034836==-- From markgray@iago.nac.net Thu Apr 8 18:10:48 1999 From: markgray@iago.nac.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SetUID perl script Problem Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:10:48 -0400 Message-ID: <6zzp4joudz.fsf@iago.nac.net> In-Reply-To: <002d01be81e0$fb188c60$5902fbc8@prover.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8413212334278779862==" --===============8413212334278779862== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Webmaster da Prover Internet" writes: > Hi guys! >=20 > I've write a perl script suid root that runs ok in a 5.3 box but in my =3D > 6.0 box it isnt running. > I get this message: > "Cant do setuid" >=20 > I've written a C wrapper and it is running as root but the script itself =3D > refuses to run as root in 6.0 >=20 > Can someone give a tip on this? >=20 >=20 > []s > Renato Arrudas Ornelas > Webmaster da Rede Prover Internet > http://www.prover.com.br> > webmaster(a)prover.com.br I encountered this myself -- perl now checks for this and your perl script is taking chances with something the outside world handed you. The easiest solution is to do some sort of string manipulation with all data handed you from outside before passing it to another program. Also get rid of root privilidges as soon as you can: # # Done with root priviledge -- now drop it Needs use English; $EUID =3D $UID; $EGID =3D $GID; # XXX: initgroups() not called See man perlsec for more details (or post the script). Hope this helps. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8413212334278779862==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Thu Apr 8 18:13:07 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Free Type? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:13:07 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370C8C70.EB233143@ihug.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9008366877089259744==" --===============9008366877089259744== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Bobby Geortgilakis wrote: > Where does one get such a beast as a Font Server & how have my fellow > SuSE users found them to be? Or, can someone point me to a How-To or > some such, to set one up? Take a look at the XFSTT package. It works great and is fairly easy to install. Make sure you read the docs though cause there's a few things you're going to have to do for a working TTFserver once you get done building the package.=20 _____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- M i c h a e l J o h n s o n -=20 e r o s @ a n d u i n . e l d a r . o r g P o w e r e d by L I N U X : K E R N E L 2 . 2 . 5 Please support Free Software and Open Source !!=20 ____________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9008366877089259744==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Thu Apr 8 18:21:07 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:21:07 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5360059995801590602==" --===============5360059995801590602== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > Well, >=20 > it was about time for a thread like this :) :-)=20 That's what I said. Some things never change, eh??? :-)=20 _____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- M i c h a e l J o h n s o n -=20 e r o s @ a n d u i n . e l d a r . o r g P o w e r e d by L I N U X : K E R N E L 2 . 2 . 5 Please support Free Software and Open Source !!=20 ____________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5360059995801590602==-- From drew@adapco.com Thu Apr 8 18:24:43 1999 From: drew@adapco.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] strange log message Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:24:43 -0400 Message-ID: <370CF46B.498C5F80@adapco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6394168195561022981==" --===============6394168195561022981== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anybody know what this message means: Apr 8 11:50:53 linux2 kernel: 08:12: rw=3D0, want=3D1140955673, limit=3D7566615 Apr 8 11:50:53 linux2 kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device I have a bad feeling about this message. I've been having problems with=20 this machine on and off, I've been putting off reloading the machine until I receive 6.1. Any ideas? Drew -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6394168195561022981==-- From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Thu Apr 8 18:24:53 1999 From: k01164@ko.sdu.dk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 20:24:53 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0480536077249521672==" --===============0480536077249521672== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With a 486/33, you want PCI, since you probably do not have an AGP slot. --=20 Regards Med venlig hilsen Ole Kofoed Hansen mailto:k01164(a)ko.sdu.dk ICQ-UIN: 25773325 On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, James (Jim) Hatridge wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi all; >=20 > Thanks for all your help with teaching about hardware. Now I've another > question. I'm looking at video cards. There seems to be two types PCI and > AGP. What is the differece and which type should I look at? I have an old > 486/33 with 8mb ram etc. >=20 >=20 > TIA! >=20 >=20 > J > I > M > ----------------------------------------- > Jim Hatridge > Germany=20 > hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de >=20 > Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! >=20 > Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! > (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) > ---------------------------------------------- > Tired of "King Klinton I" & the Oral Office? > Join the Libertarian Party! > Check out www.lp.org >=20 >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0480536077249521672==-- From mcdo148@ibm.net Thu Apr 8 18:25:05 1999 From: mcdo148@ibm.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Progress! Linux found the modem and it dials... Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:25:05 -0400 Message-ID: <370CF481.72151089@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3806208163671501440==" --===============3806208163671501440== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, Well after all of the help you gave me, I thought you would like tyo know tha= t I now have linux recognizing the modem and minicom will dial out. Just about to try the dialing to ISP thing, but hurrah this is major progress! All I did was tell the BIOs that I didn't have a PnP aware OS, linux then recognized it had a com 1 and 2 and the modem dialed. I had to come into wind= ows and actually register our new computer before time runs out, but hopefully the isp thing'll work. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!! Cheers! Dom -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3806208163671501440==-- From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Thu Apr 8 19:09:32 1999 From: k01164@ko.sdu.dk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:09:32 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370CDEB5.1AF2FB84@ifi.unicamp.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6859960506010509882==" --===============6859960506010509882== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 henrique(a)ifi.unicamp.br wrote: > Ole Kofoed Hansen wrote: > >=20 > > With a 486/33, you want PCI, since you probably do not have > > an AGP slot. > >=20 >=20 > Hey, >=20 > Take care, some old 486/33 don't have even PCI slot, maybe you need > an ISA card... >=20 > henrique Oops, I'm sorry... Henrique is right. Regards Ole -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6859960506010509882==-- From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Thu Apr 8 19:18:57 1999 From: jboonen@Worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:18:57 +0200 Message-ID: <370D0120.B8643DF7@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8151112256167165082==" --===============8151112256167165082== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear James, If you have a 486/33Mhz. You probably only have ISA or ISA and VESA local bus. That means that either of the video cards will fit. I don't think anyone still produces ISA video cards. It's probably not nice to say. But it's the only, you will have to buy another PC to use a new video card. Regards, Joop Boonen. I don't where you are in Germany but there are quite a lot of shops with cheap computers. I advice to buy the C't and look in that one. "James (Jim) Hat ridge" wrote: > Hi all; > > Thanks for all your help with teaching about hardware. Now I've another > question. I'm looking at video cards. There seems to be two types PCI and > AGP. What is the differece and which type should I look at? I have an old > 486/33 with 8mb ram etc. > > TIA! > > J > I > M > ----------------------------------------- > Jim Hatridge > Germany > hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de > > Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! > > Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! > (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) > ---------------------------------------------- > Tired of "King Klinton I" & the Oral Office? > Join the Libertarian Party! > Check out www.lp.org > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8151112256167165082==-- From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Thu Apr 8 19:35:37 1999 From: bobbyg@ihug.co.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Free Type? Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 07:35:37 +1200 Message-ID: <370D0509.63BFCFE6@ihug.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5171306418882223832==" --===============5171306418882223832== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Yall, many thanx for the tips & tricks. I'll get stuck in after breakfast & see how I go. Mmmm, food. Greek Geek. :-) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5171306418882223832==-- From jerdfelt@suse.com Thu Apr 8 19:56:05 1999 From: jerdfelt@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 12:56:05 -0700 Message-ID: <19990408125605.B5782@suse.com> In-Reply-To: <370D0120.B8643DF7@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0446460242297384807==" --===============0446460242297384807== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 08, 1999, Joop Boonen wrote: > If you have a 486/33Mhz. You probably only have ISA or ISA and VESA local > bus. That means that either of the video cards will fit. I don't think anyo= ne > still produces ISA video cards. >=20 > It's probably not nice to say. But it's the only, you will have to buy > another PC to use a new video card. There is a chance that he may have PCI in his system. Definately does not have AGP tho. Trying running this command: cat /proc/pci If you get a bunch of lines, then you have PCI in his system. JE -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0446460242297384807==-- From mperry@basin.com Thu Apr 8 20:08:28 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Email in plain text please Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 13:08:28 -0700 Message-ID: <199904082008.NAA01393@speedy.linuxcare.com> In-Reply-To: <370CE90D.3E52A0A9@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1524090639997325765==" --===============1524090639997325765== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8 Apr, Joop Boonen wrote: >=20 > Dear all, >=20 > Lately i see more often in this mailing list that people tend to use > attributes in their emails like background colours. This doesn't improve > the readability. >=20 > So i ask you all. Can you please sent your email as plain text? >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Joop Boonen. >=20 >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> My sentiments exactly. --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com -------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1524090639997325765==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 8 20:09:18 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:09:18 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370CDEB5.1AF2FB84@ifi.unicamp.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5096110275824973271==" --===============5096110275824973271== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 henrique(a)ifi.unicamp.br wrote: >=20 > Ole Kofoed Hansen wrote: > >=20 > > With a 486/33, you want PCI, since you probably do not have > > an AGP slot. > >=20 >=20 > Hey, >=20 > Take care, some old 486/33 don't have even PCI slot, maybe you need > an ISA card... Yes, but if we're talking about video cards here, it probably has a VLB slot at the very least. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5096110275824973271==-- From roed@hem.utfors.se Thu Apr 8 20:10:03 1999 From: roed@hem.utfors.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 22:10:03 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3896470957025077458==" --===============3896470957025077458== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, James (Jim) Hatridge wrote: > Hi all; >=20 > Thanks for all your help with teaching about hardware. Now I've another > question. I'm looking at video cards. There seems to be two types PCI and > AGP. What is the differece and which type should I look at? I have an old > 486/33 with 8mb ram etc. Does your computer have PCI or AGP buss ? In my old 486, there only is ISA buss. But when I spending my mony on a new computer, I think I going to get me a AGP card. - * Linux - ett stabilare s=C3=A4tt att leva * - -- Mvh Rolf Edlund Tel:070-3049194 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3896470957025077458==-- From kick@c2i.net Thu Apr 8 20:20:11 1999 From: kick@c2i.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible reas Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 22:20:11 +0200 Message-ID: <199904082005.WAA14174@falk.c2i.net> In-Reply-To: <370CEBD6.80505EE3@ip.pt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4964149301728027870==" --===============4964149301728027870== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pedro Timoteo said in Re: [SuSE Linux] Re:To hell with Netscape - possible=20 reas at 08/Apr/1999 (Thu) 19:48:06. > IMHO Opera is to Netscape as Linux is to Windows. > (I'm talking about speed, efficiency and stability, not open source/free > software). I never understood all the fuss about Opera. Its not THAT good is it?! =20 Hopefully its not the de facto model for the alternative to Netscape on=20 linux. There must be better than that. Anyway Operasoftware are more than shortsighted if they dont release it to=20 the linux community under a full opensource license. So there :-P -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4964149301728027870==-- From nick.leroy@norland.com Thu Apr 8 20:21:43 1999 From: nick.leroy@norland.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:21:43 -0500 Message-ID: <990408152144.ZM29400@dopey> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1848526239751550508==" --===============1848526239751550508== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim... If you don't have a PCI, you still *can* find ISA video cards, but they're getting hard to find. Dalco Electronic does have some, I know. No affiliation, but I've bought from them several times, and have had good luck with them. I'm sure other places do, too, but you'll have to hunt, and you certainly won't get the 'latest & greatest'. Just my $.02 worth -Nick --=20 +-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------+ | /`--_ Nicholas R LeRoy | In a world without fences, Who needs Gates?| |{ }/ Norland Corporation | ---- Experience Linux! ---- | | \ * / W6340 Hackbarth Rd | http://www.linux.org> | http://www.ssc.com> | | |___| Fort Atkinson, WI 53538 +--------------------------------------------+ | nick.leroy(a)norland.com | #include = | |http://www3.norland.com/~nleroy>| These are my own idea= s, not my employer's. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1848526239751550508==-- From jboonen@Worldonline.nl Thu Apr 8 20:50:28 1999 From: jboonen@Worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 22:50:28 +0200 Message-ID: <370D1694.C98814A5@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <990408152144.ZM29400@dopey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4453720538636876062==" --===============4453720538636876062== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jim, I don't know the main reason why you want to replace the video card. Is the c= ard that is in the machine right now broken. If so you will be able to get cheap replacements at a second hand computer shop. If you want a new video card to increase performance. Than i wouldn't spent t= he money on it as your system is already very slow. In comparison to now a day systems. I think the system might run XFree quite well as long as you don't r= un Staroffice and probably netscape. To be sure if you have either ISA or VESA local bus or PCI or even AGP you ha= ve to open up your PC. Btw AGP is just nonsense as there hasn't been ever a 486 with AGP. And as far as i know the PCI 486 only excised after the DX-4 was introdu= ced (100MHz 486). I will try to explain how you can see if you have ISA or VESA local bus of PC= I. If you measure the slot if the total length is 14 cm than it's a ISA Slot If it'= s 8.5 cm than it's a XT slot. This type is very old fashioned. If the slot is 22.5 = cm than it's VESA local bus if it's 8 cm than it's a PCI slot. Another remark PCI slots are most of the time white ISA and XT slots are most of the time black.= VESA local bus slots are most of the time black with a brown extension connector (= It's basically a ISA connector and a extension connector). I hope this helps. Regards, Joop Boonen. Nicholas R LeRoy wrote: > Jim... > > If you don't have a PCI, you still *can* find ISA video cards, but they're > getting hard to find. Dalco Electronic does have some, I know. No > affiliation, but I've bought from them several times, and have had good > luck with them. I'm sure other places do, too, but you'll have to hunt, > and you certainly won't get the 'latest & greatest'. > > Just my $.02 worth > > -Nick > > -- > +-------------------------------+------------------------------------------= --+ > | /`--_ Nicholas R LeRoy | In a world without fences, Who needs Gate= s?| > |{ }/ Norland Corporation | ---- Experience Linux! ---- = | > | \ * / W6340 Hackbarth Rd | http://www.linux.org> | http://www.ssc.com> | > | |___| Fort Atkinson, WI 53538 +------------------------------------------= --+ > | nick.leroy(a)norland.com | #include = | > |http://www3.norland.com/~nleroy>| These are my own id= eas, not my employer's. | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------------= --+ > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4453720538636876062==-- From mcleod@ssc.es Thu Apr 8 21:04:57 1999 From: mcleod@ssc.es To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] A new article on linux distros! Suse the most favorable rating. Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 23:04:57 +0200 Message-ID: <001901be8203$8d4e8a40$a3cc37c3@interssc> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] A new article on linux distros! Suse the most favorable rating.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5412055059226714622==" --===============5412055059226714622== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The magazine it's Solo Programadores Linux, and they don't have a web site, anyway when I'll return from a small holiday I'll ask the to publish it on the web, probably after May because it's when the magazine will be published. Anyway thanks for the good feedback I'm getting there Vicente -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5412055059226714622==-- From budr@sirinet.net Thu Apr 8 21:12:06 1999 From: budr@sirinet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Email in plain text please Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:12:06 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904082008.NAA01393@speedy.linuxcare.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1396516180431047017==" --===============1396516180431047017== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Perry writes: > On 8 Apr, Joop Boonen wrote: [...] > > So i ask you all. Can you please sent your email as plain text? [...] > My sentiments exactly. And mine as well. --=20 Bud Rogers http://www.sirine= t.net/~budr/zamm.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1396516180431047017==-- From jbodnar@dev.tivoli.com Thu Apr 8 21:15:09 1999 From: jbodnar@dev.tivoli.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:15:09 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <990408152144.ZM29400@dopey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4247356178392762125==" --===============4247356178392762125== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's a list of all the ISA cards found on www.killerapp.com. Pretty expensive. Might be better off getting a new motherboard. http://www.killerapp.com/cgi/crunch/pcompare.asp?ptable=3D= Graphics_Cards>&lastrow=3D0 &join=3Dand&sortby=3Dbrand%2Cmodel&showall=3DN&interface=3DISA&numrows=3D10 On 08-Apr-99 Nicholas R LeRoy wrote: >=20 > Jim... >=20 > If you don't have a PCI, you still *can* find ISA video cards, but they're > getting hard to find. Dalco Electronic does have some, I know. No > affiliation, but I've bought from them several times, and have had good > luck with them. I'm sure other places do, too, but you'll have to hunt, > and you certainly won't get the 'latest & greatest'. >=20 > Just my $.02 worth >=20 > -Nick >=20 > --=20 > +-------------------------------+------------------------------------------= --+ >| /`--_ Nicholas R LeRoy | In a world without fences, Who needs Gates= ?| >|{ }/ Norland Corporation | ---- Experience Linux! ---- = | >| \ * / W6340 Hackbarth Rd | http://www.linux.org> | http://www.ssc.com> | >| |___| Fort Atkinson, WI 53538 +-------------------------------------------= -+ >| nick.leroy(a)norland.com | #include = | >|http://www3.norland.com/~nleroy>| These are my own ide= as, not my employer's. | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------------= --+ > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --- Jason Bodnar + jbodnar(a)tivoli.com + Tivoli Systems "Okay brain, let's get this over with so I can go back to killing you with beer." -- Homer Simpson -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4247356178392762125==-- From jbodnar@dev.tivoli.com Thu Apr 8 21:29:51 1999 From: jbodnar@dev.tivoli.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Home Phoneline Network card support Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:29:51 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6379984766994613011==" --===============6379984766994613011== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anybody heard if there's been any work on drivers for home phoneline network cards from Tut Systems and Epigram (sold by Diamond MM and other companies)? --- Jason Bodnar + jbodnar(a)tivoli.com + Tivoli Systems [Another Normism ...] Beer, Norm? Have I gotten that predictable? Good. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6379984766994613011==-- From karl.stas@rug.ac.be Thu Apr 8 21:45:17 1999 From: karl.stas@rug.ac.be To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] machine off at shutdown Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 23:45:17 +0200 Message-ID: <001201be8209$53236e20$6f1fc19d@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0668735111355372471==" --===============0668735111355372471== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lots of people (including myself) are having problems with machines that can't be put off using the on/off button, and would like to have Linux to do this, just as windows does. But even if you configure the kernel as to include support for this APM feature, it just won't work . Now it seems that the "halt" script (in /sbin/init.d/halt or /etc/rc.d/halt) could be modified in order to obtain the desired result. Does anybody now about this? (BTW I'm using a 2.2.4 kernel) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0668735111355372471==-- From risch@tir.com Thu Apr 8 21:54:55 1999 From: risch@tir.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice 5 on SuSE 6.0 Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:54:55 -0400 Message-ID: <370D25AF.B06DBA4C@tir.com> In-Reply-To: <3709786E.28F7254@inlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3770393082370597743==" --===============3770393082370597743== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wondering... I installed SO5, but chose to install in /opt rather than /home. I've not spent any time trying to debug that so not starting may be as simple as a broken link, but I was just wondering if the consensus was the default install or if anyone has had my experience. At present my /home is only 100Mb so I prefer to keep apps such as snavigator and such there. TIA, Bob "Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est." ("A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands.") - Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the Younger" (ca. 4 BC-65 AD) Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote: >=20 > hiya, >=20 > One does not have to install any lib files that stardivision packag= es > with the downloadable StarOffice 5 if you have SuSE 6.0. I installed the > version off the SuSE 6.0 cd and it worked fine, I then later ordered the > Deluxe version with the filter updates from Stardivision. I ordered it > partly because I have a connection that makes downloading 65+ megs a > pain in the bum...and partly because anyone who makes nice apps for > Linux I want to support. I never minded paying a fair price for good > software, I switched to Linux because I was tired of unstable crapware. > SOffice 5.0+filter updates works fine..no new lib files installed. > If you have 6.0, don't worry about it..those libs are for people who > have older distros. >=20 > just my 0.02 :) >=20 > laters, >=20 > > On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Chris Dunn wrote: > > > Also the linker ld-2.0.7.so is supplied in a different version with > > > each programme. SO5 insist that their version of these libraries and th= e linker > > > should be used with SO5, but I can find no way of installing using their > > > libraries without tampering with things on my SuSE installation which I= fear may > > > corrupt SuSE. > > > > > > Has anybody successfully overcome these issues? Pointers would be great= ly > > > appreciated. > > > > No. And what I don't understand is, why do the StarDivision people even > > bother giving you those libraries anyway? I mean, they want you to set the > > library path to include their library directory -- and *first* in the path > > -- therefore, if some program you want to run was compiiled for a > > different libc version, it won't. What they *should* have done was write a > > script which copies the current library path into a new variable, changes > > it, runs the install/office-suite ; changes it back. Any flaws in my > > logic? If not, try it out. >=20 > -- > Ben Rosenberg > mailto:sinthetk(a)inlink.com > " Powered by SuSE Linux " > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3770393082370597743==-- From risch@tir.com Thu Apr 8 22:01:25 1999 From: risch@tir.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] E-Mail clients//Newbie view Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:01:25 -0400 Message-ID: <370D2735.EAB7FC11@tir.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6043364624166417737==" --===============6043364624166417737== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Though my apps are rather limited that is precisely why I chose to install 6.0 on separate partitions rather than upgrade 5.3. Of course I had to dispense with my Debian 2.0 and RedHat 5.1, but I felt assured that I would allow myself time to upgrade at my leisure Bob Bud Rogers wrote: >=20 > Rachel Greenham writes: >=20 > > > 4. For the fun of it. :} > > > > This reason should not be underestimated you know. :-) >=20 > Quite true. Actually, that's the best reason of all. :} >=20 > > > > But here's another: The problem in not upgrading kernels until you're for= ced > > to, with such a wonderful OS as Linux (:-)), is that you could be using t= he > > same kernel/distribution version for so long, that when something comes a= long > > that means you *do* have to upgrade, you have to do a very big upgrade and > > discover that lots and lots of things have changed just enough to break an > > interesting amount of the software you're running. >=20 > Absolutely true. And that's about where I am now. I have silt in the > bottom of /usr/local going back to Slackware 2.something. I'm starting to > get excited about glibc and 2.2.x. But I've made the decision that, rather > than rolling another layer over the ruins and trying to fix everything that > breaks, I'm gonna do a scorched earth upgrade next time. As in repartition > the drives and start from scratch. But that's not something I want to try > to do in an afternoon -- I'll have to pick a time when I have time to do it > right... >=20 > -- >=20 > Bud Rogers http://www.si= rinet.net/~budr/zamm.html> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6043364624166417737==-- From mstriani@cvtci.com.ar Thu Apr 8 22:14:47 1999 From: mstriani@cvtci.com.ar To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Where can I find the suseppp.rpm Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:14:47 -0300 Message-ID: <001e01be820d$3812e260$fd8b0ac8@200.200.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4907739268838581445==" --===============4907739268838581445== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Where can I find the suseppp.rpm

I have the SuSE 5.1 with kernel 2.2.3 and yast 0.99 something

I tried to configure a ppp conection and it shows me that I hadn't install=20 the suseppp package

Thanks

=20 Mariano A.=20 Striani
=20 mstriani(a)cvtci.com.ar

= =20 mstriani(a)usa.net
= =20 ICQ: 25574285
--===============4907739268838581445==-- From stevem12@mindspring.com Thu Apr 8 22:50:21 1999 From: stevem12@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:50:21 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990408162302.9103.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8781625819439841703==" --===============8781625819439841703== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08-Apr-99 Chuck MacKinnon wrote: >=20 > What I would like to see is the wars to stop between > all of the dists and perhaps have them all move > towards some sort of a standard. But that seems to be > a pipe dream...Every *nix OS I have to work on does > something different. It makes it fun but a pain in > the buttocks at times as well. =20 >=20 I believe this is the most FATAL flaw of Linux(and other Unices) as it starts to take on Windows for the desktop. People do not want hear that they will have to download an rpm for their particular distro, and they shouldn't have to. One rpm for one program. I realize there are differences(libc5 and glibc) right now, but that will change. I just can't believe people wont agr= ee on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . =20 Steve ---------------------------------- E-Mail: stevem12(a)mindspring.com Date: 08-Apr-99 Time: 18:10:29 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8781625819439841703==-- From hajo@mindspring.com Thu Apr 8 23:10:15 1999 From: hajo@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:10:15 -0700 Message-ID: <00e601be8214$f6ec9850$0c0a10ac@ffhjh.cypresscomm.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3365430106703014075==" --===============3365430106703014075== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Joop Boonen > >Dear James, > >If you have a 486/33Mhz. You probably only have ISA or ISA and VESA local >bus. That means that either of the video cards will fit. I don't think anyone >still produces ISA video cards. > >It's probably not nice to say. But it's the only, you will have to buy >another PC to use a new video card. > >Regards, > >Joop Boonen. > >I don't where you are in Germany but there are quite a lot of shops with >cheap computers. I advice to buy the C't and look in that one. > > >"James (Jim) Hat ridge" wrote: > >> Hi all; >> >> Thanks for all your help with teaching about hardware. Now I've another >> question. I'm looking at video cards. There seems to be two types PCI and >> AGP. What is the differece and which type should I look at? I have an old >> 486/33 with 8mb ram etc. >> >> TIA! >> >> J >> I >> M >> ----------------------------------------- >> Jim Hatridge >> Germany >> hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de >> >> Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! John is right that a NEW video card won't work. OTOH you'll probably be able to pick up a Tseng or S3 based card for a few marks. (I've seen vid cards in a 10 for $25 bundle before; these fullfill the video requirements for Appservers in a cluster perfectly!; actually they have 2 megs of RAM and will do 1024x768x8bits fine under X) Hajo -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3365430106703014075==-- From hmf@softhome.net Thu Apr 8 23:16:51 1999 From: hmf@softhome.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ppp daemon killed Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:16:51 -0500 Message-ID: <199904082223.PAA12214@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6473612522039025055==" --===============6473612522039025055== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey all my ppp daemon dies, exit code 1, when I use wvdial to connect. my modem dial= s, then the daemon dies. what am I=20 missing? (I have suseppp set up wrong, could the settings hose things up?) -tf -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6473612522039025055==-- From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Thu Apr 8 23:25:53 1999 From: bobbyg@ihug.co.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Free Type & the crunchy vs the smoothy..... Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 11:25:53 +1200 Message-ID: <370D3B01.28C8BC16@ihug.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8518823526936740846==" --===============8518823526936740846== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys, I've found the changing the order of loading from 75dpi to 100dpi first, has made a improvement. :-) XFSTT is going to take a bit more work, so for now I will leave it along & pick it up this weekend. This would be a nice thingy for the KDE hackers to add, *hint*. ;-) Subtle? Greek Geek. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8518823526936740846==-- From andyford@nothnbut.net Thu Apr 8 23:58:44 1999 From: andyford@nothnbut.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Multi modems Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:58:44 -0500 Message-ID: <19990408185844.C32305@dave.ford.saint-louis.mo.us> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4022423624806644357==" --===============4022423624806644357== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 06:57:56AM -0400, dizzy73(a)connix.com wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi > I was wondering if anyone had information or had been succesful at using 2 > modems for one dialup connection. > I have an internal 56k /dev/ttyS0 identified and in use by wvdial > other is an external 56k that was on the w98 box but since Im using > ipmasquerading I never use the external. > So i moved the external to the linux and set it for /dev/ttys2 > But I would really like to use 2 modems at once ;-> > Is this possible? Ive looked thru the modem HOWTOS but it dosent see to=20 > be too popular of a subject. > any ideas?=20 > thanks=20 > rob >=20 > Linux Homepage http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73= /LBM.htm> > S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 =20 I tried unsuccessfully about a year ago. My ISP gave me a free second=20 account to play with just to see if I could do it but to no avail... There's a kernel option you need to enable and then you have to compile and install the software. It's called the ppp-multilink protocol and the web link for the homepage I used to use is now dead... Good Luck. Andy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4022423624806644357==-- From sandsmark@iname.com Fri Apr 9 00:05:37 1999 From: sandsmark@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Home Phoneline Network card support] Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:05:37 -0700 Message-ID: <370D4451.B5404194@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1887405415053447635==" --===============1887405415053447635== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Even wrote:
Jason Bodnar wrote:

> Has anybody heard if there's been any work on drivers for home phoneline
> network cards from Tut Systems and Epigram (sold by Diamond MM and other
> companies)?
>
> ---
> Jason Bodnar + jbodnar(a)tivoli.com + Tivoli Systems
>
> [Another Normism ...]
> Beer, Norm?
> Have I gotten that predictable? Good.
>
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Hi
my home network uses a TUT Systems HR1300T stand alone unit to connect to
internet. using xDSL.
i have 3 linux machines connected to a hub. From the uplink port it goes
to the HR1300T. ...
I have been using it for the past months and it is working perfectly, it
does not require any special software or drivers.
so my advise is to get a 10 Mb or 10/100Mb network card about 20 to 100$
and conect to a HR1300T or similar unit.
Even
i just pushed reply and did not look at the adress (i sent it directly to jbodnar(a)tivoli.com) so here is my reply. Sorry.
=20 --===============1887405415053447635==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Fri Apr 9 00:33:41 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: IBM calls server 'world's fastest' Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 20:33:41 -0400 Message-ID: <370D4AE5.EF0E4F63@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4134796588929270104==" --===============4134796588929270104== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is not Linux related, except that the version IBM purports to be writing would run on this beast. Fred ____________________________ htt= p://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2237374,00.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4134796588929270104==-- From djb@redhat.com Fri Apr 9 00:42:54 1999 From: djb@redhat.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 20:42:54 -0400 Message-ID: <199904090042.UAA01855@chef.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2798738133554562626==" --===============2798738133554562626== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > What I would like to see is the wars to stop between > > all of the dists and perhaps have them all move > > towards some sort of a standard. But that seems to be > > a pipe dream...Every *nix OS I have to work on does > > something different. It makes it fun but a pain in > > the buttocks at times as well. =20 >=20 > I believe this is the most FATAL flaw of Linux(and other Unices) as it star= ts > to take on Windows for the desktop. People do not want hear that they will > have to download an rpm for their particular distro, and they shouldn't have > to. One rpm for one program. I realize there are differences(libc5 and > glibc) right now, but that will change. I just can't believe people wont a= gree > on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . =20 = http://www.linuxbase.org> --Donnie -- Donnie Barnes http://www.redhat.com/~djb> djb(a)redhat.co= m "Bah." Challenge Diversity. Ignore People. Live Life. Use Linux. 879. V.=20 The more you cry, the less you'll pee. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2798738133554562626==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Fri Apr 9 01:16:22 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] WinHEC'99: MS open to open source for Windows?!! Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:16:22 -0400 Message-ID: <370D54E6.DF0E0626@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3232826393136649059==" --===============3232826393136649059== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-04/lw-04-= microsoft.html?04-07> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3232826393136649059==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Fri Apr 9 01:22:07 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux operating system makes inroads but lags behind rivals Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:22:07 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Linux operating system makes inroads but lags behind rivals> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6048108011902410329==" --===============6048108011902410329== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Kris Carlier wrote: > > also has SMP support, so I don't know what they were talking about on that > > other count.=20 >=20 > I'm a bit confused, are you talking about the DHBROWN (www.-.com) report ? Yes and no. I'm talking about the Wall Street Journal's mangled article on the report. They claimed, I seem to remember, that Linux couldn't run on more than one processor. They are confused. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6048108011902410329==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Fri Apr 9 01:51:25 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] unsubscribing? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 20:51:25 -0500 Message-ID: <370D5D1D.437E7D2@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <199904081404.HAA01527@www1.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6313521195739078974==" --===============6313521195739078974== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am not a complete moron, but for some reason my old isp mail address won't unsubscribe..I am getting rid of the account at the end of the month..but until I do a full switch over...I need to check this account..and I followed the instructions to unsubcribe the account..didn't work... if anyone one who runs the list can help me..the address is sinthetk(a)inlink.com :/ thanks, --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6313521195739078974==-- From sandsmark@iname.com Fri Apr 9 02:00:59 1999 From: sandsmark@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Home Phoneline Network card support Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:00:59 -0700 Message-ID: <370D5F5B.9C67A3B9@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Home Phoneline Network card support> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8758736309669102613==" --===============8758736309669102613== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jason Bodnar wrote: > I think we're thinking of different Tut Systems products. I was talking > about Tut's HomeRun line that allows you to run a network over the existing > phone wiring in your house. Is that what you're doing with the HR1300T? > > At 04:42 PM 4/8/99 -0700, Even wrote: > >Jason Bodnar wrote: > > > >> Has anybody heard if there's been any work on drivers for home phoneline > >> network cards from Tut Systems and Epigram (sold by Diamond MM and other > >> companies)? > >> > >> --- > >> Jason Bodnar + jbodnar(a)tivoli.com + Tivoli Systems > >> > >> [Another Normism ...] > >> Beer, Norm? > >> Have I gotten that predictable? Good. > >> > >> -- > >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >> Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/= Support/Doku/FAQ/> and the > >> archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > > >Hi > >my home network uses a TUT Systems HR1300T stand alone unit to connect to > >internet. using xDSL. > >i have 3 linux machines connected to a hub. From the uplink port it goes > >to the HR1300T. ... > >I have been using it for the past months and it is working perfectly, it > >does not require any special software or drivers. > >so my advise is to get a 10 Mb or 10/100Mb network card about 20 to 100$ > >and conect to a HR1300T or similar unit. > > > >Even > > > > > > -- > Jason Bodnar Yes, i have only one phone line going into the house, no Lan cable. I split the phone line in two, one goes into the phone and one into the TUT box. when i am using phone i am also able to use internet . the two systems uses different wires in the cabling. It seems to be good product, however the system (TUT1300T) is as far as i know only able to do 10 Mb regard Even -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8758736309669102613==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Fri Apr 9 02:08:31 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 03:08:31 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904090042.UAA01855@chef.redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0295657360038578122==" --===============0295657360038578122== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09-Apr-99 djb(a)redhat.com wrote: >=20 >> > What I would like to see is the wars to stop between >> > all of the dists and perhaps have them all move >> > towards some sort of a standard. >> >> I just can't believe people wont agree >> on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . =20 >=20 > http://www.linuxbase.org> >=20 > --Donnie Well, it's nice to know a start has been made, with lots of distinguished important members. I had a look at the actual spec: http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/s= pec/book01.html> Now, if this were more than a partial list of topics, and were not most of its sections empty or with only minimal information, then the LinuxBase project might have an influence. Meanwhile, it still seems that very little exists to define a standard. So, with regret, I can't agree that Donnie's reply is a useful response to the points raised above! Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 09-Apr-99 Time: 03:08:31 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0295657360038578122==-- From stevem12@mindspring.com Fri Apr 9 02:20:49 1999 From: stevem12@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Bad CPU?? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 22:20:49 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0689914470639195778==" --===============0689914470639195778== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there any definitive way of testing whether a CPU is dying. The last 3 da= ys I had experienced an increase in abnormal crashes. Enough to drive me back to Windows just to get something done. Although, that wasnt exactly flawless eit= he r. I swapped processors with another computer, and now it seems very stable.= =20 The other computer apears to be crashing a little more than normal(it runs 95) now. Is there any way to verfiy it??? Steve ---------------------------------- E-Mail: stevem12(a)mindspring.com Date: 08-Apr-99 Time: 22:16:17 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0689914470639195778==-- From dsoper@efn.org Fri Apr 9 02:47:34 1999 From: dsoper@efn.org To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] WP 8.0 and Netware Printer Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:47:34 -0700 Message-ID: <199904090247.TAA05828@clavin.efn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8917318405058024764==" --===============8917318405058024764== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I've got my SuSE 6.0 box talking quite happily to and printing from=20 my Netware servers. Now, is there any way I can print a=20 WordPerfect 8.0 document; i.e., is there some sort of print to file=20 feature that WP has to do this, or is there any other way. Or do I=20 have to plug one of those crummy HP DeskJets into my box? Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers, Dennis=20 "Custard pies are a sort of esperanto: a universal language."=20 --Noel Godin =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8917318405058024764==-- From dlaude@execpc.com Fri Apr 9 03:16:55 1999 From: dlaude@execpc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Bad CPU?? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 22:16:55 -0500 Message-ID: <199904090316.WAA22290@mailgw00.execpc.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1273489057455176822==" --===============1273489057455176822== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---Reply to mail from stevem12(a)mindspring.com >=20 > Is there any definitive way of testing whether a CPU is dying. The last 3 = days > I had experienced an increase in abnormal crashes. Enough to drive me back= to > Windows just to get something done. Although, that wasnt exactly flawless e= ithe > r. I swapped processors with another computer, and now it seems very stabl= e.=20 > The other computer apears to be crashing a little more than normal(it runs = 95) > now. Is there any way to verfiy it??? There is software available, but it's commercial and around $600, which is more than a new CPU costs, unless you have a Intel PII. You might want to call up one of your local computer stores and see if they would run a diagnostics test on it. This normally should only cost you about $20. Hell..., all they have to do is run your PC for 24 - 48 hrs and print out the results. Dana -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1273489057455176822==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 9 03:20:23 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Where can I find the suseppp.rpm Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 05:20:23 +0200 Message-ID: <370D71F7.78499F4F@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <001e01be820d$3812e260$fd8b0ac8@200.200.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1247547607903101348==" --===============1247547607903101348== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ftp://ftp.suse.com/= pub/SuSE-Linux/6.0/suse/n1/ppp.rpm> However, this is 2.3.5, which you also have on the suse 6.0 cdroms. The latest release (2.3.7) seems not to be available from the suse server. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1247547607903101348==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 9 03:23:18 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Where can I find the suseppp.rpm Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 05:23:18 +0200 Message-ID: <370D72A6.7A014519@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <001e01be820d$3812e260$fd8b0ac8@200.200.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2140397210341069823==" --===============2140397210341069823== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, I didn't read the subject properly. suseppp is at=20 ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse60/n1/suseppp-1-37.i386.rpm> Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2140397210341069823==-- From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Fri Apr 9 04:39:38 1999 From: bobbyg@ihug.co.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] WP 8.0 and Netware Printer Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:39:38 +1200 Message-ID: <370D848A.16DD9D5A@ihug.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8918496655350814027==" --===============8918496655350814027== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dennis wrote.... "Now, is there any way I can print a WordPerfect 8.0 document; i.e., is there some sort of print to file feature that WP has to do this, or is there any other way." Sure is. Click the printer icon in WP8, then the "Select," then "printer create/edit," then "Add," just select your printer.... Having added a printer, click the "destination" button-when in the "Setup" (which is in the "Add" screen. I have not done the networking thing before, but the WP8 dialogue therein, does offer the print to file feature you mean. Personally, I found it intuitive after a bit of a play; click-o-rama. Hope this helps. Greek Geek. :-) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8918496655350814027==-- From read.error@zdnetmail.com Fri Apr 9 04:41:53 1999 From: read.error@zdnetmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Ethernet - pppd problems Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 20:41:53 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3264778349612105799==" --===============3264778349612105799== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have a problem with a local ethernet network when using the pppd. When the = pppd is down I can telnet from the local machines ok and it gets the login pr= ompt normally. But when I have the pppd connected to my ISP it seems the teln= et session "hangs" for up to a minute then after that it logs in normally. I = haven't added any hardware or changed the systen in any way. This problem sta= rted occuring a few weeks ago and I can't figure out what's causing it. I'm u= sing SuSE 5.3. Any information or help would be greatly appreciated. Many Tha= nks... Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere!=20 ZDNet Mail - http://www.zdnetmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3264778349612105799==-- From nick@ray.ru Fri Apr 9 07:28:54 1999 From: nick@ray.ru To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] MASQ IPCHAINS Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:28:54 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6680590150313479967==" --===============6680590150313479967== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now I use MASQ for 0.0.0.0/24. Can I make exception for some netwokrs? Because it netwokrs have a route to same interface. For example: ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s z.z.z.z -d 0.0.0.0/0 (z.z.z.z - local network) but not for x.x.x.x, x.x.x.x-network have a reverse route to ours local network. Nick K. Kozubsky nick(a)ray.ru Tel: +7 0112 350601 FAX: +7 0112 350603 Rem: No Microsoft products were used in the production of this message. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6680590150313479967==-- From nick@ray.ru Fri Apr 9 07:33:04 1999 From: nick@ray.ru To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] METRICS & route.conf Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:33:04 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5918285037559505843==" --===============5918285037559505843== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello, Can I use metrics in route command by SUSE-6.0 /sbin/init.d/route script? What I must update, edit or replace ? thanks Nick K. Kozubsky nick(a)ray.ru Tel: +7 0112 350601 FAX: +7 0112 350603 Rem: No Microsoft products were used in the production of this message. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5918285037559505843==-- From awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL Fri Apr 9 07:44:31 1999 From: awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 09:44:31 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904090042.UAA01855@chef.redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8142611714096413091==" --===============8142611714096413091== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09-Apr-99 djb(a)redhat.com wrote: >> on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . =20 =20 > http://www.linuxbase.org> > --Donnie You must be joking, Donnie. Any perusal of the specs available at linuxbase.org will show that almost nothing is actually on 'paper'. Nowhere can I find or do I hear of any evidence that points to a really active LBP committee. Even if the committee were active and even if agreement could be reached soon are the distro's really going to implement this blueprint. If they all do agree unanimously to implement what is the timetable. Nowhere, from none of the parties concerned, do I get any indication of the urgency of this project or real commitment to it.=20 I hope I am wrong but I think that the (hidden) interests of all parties concerned are not moving in the direction of a LB. And that is not good. Alexander ------------------------------------- Alexander Volovics Dept of Methodology & Statistics Maastricht University, Maastricht, NL ------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8142611714096413091==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 9 08:22:50 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ATI Rage Fury and SuSE 6.0 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:22:50 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001801be81d3$28921f20$3100a8c0@mjburke46> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4975938238077853896==" --===============4975938238077853896== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Marshall Burke wrote: > I cannot get the ATI Rage Fury to work, I have tried many suggestions > including using the Banshee workaround using the Frame Buffer, but the > Xserver still fails to starts, In the directions it does say that it > was using Xfree 3.3.2, and SusE comes with 3.3.3. The Rage Fury uses the ATI Rage 128 GL chipset, which is not supported by XFree86 (yet). If the vesafb workaround doesn't help, you may be out of luck. Or you have to purchase the commercial X-Server from Xi Graphics... Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4975938238077853896==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 9 08:31:23 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Bad CPU?? Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:31:23 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0408480110783573767==" --===============0408480110783573767== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote: > Is there any definitive way of testing whether a CPU is dying. The > last 3 days I had experienced an increase in abnormal crashes. =20 > Enough to drive me back to Windows just to get something done. > Although, that wasnt exactly flawless eithe r. I swapped processors > with another computer, and now it seems very stable. The other > computer apears to be crashing a little more than normal(it runs 95) > now. Is there any way to verfiy it??? Hmm, maybe the little cooling fan gathered too much dust? Is it running at all? This sounds like a temperature problem to me. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0408480110783573767==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 9 08:37:45 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] strange log message Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:37:45 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370CF46B.498C5F80@adapco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1285672473974865448==" --===============1285672473974865448== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Drew Weirhousky wrote: >=20 > Does anybody know what this message means: >=20 > Apr 8 11:50:53 linux2 kernel: 08:12: rw=3D0, want=3D1140955673, > limit=3D7566615 > Apr 8 11:50:53 linux2 kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device >=20 > I have a bad feeling about this message. I've been having problems > with this machine on and off, I've been putting off reloading the > machine until I receive 6.1. Any ideas? Does your BIOS and Linux agree on your hard disk geometry? You should use LBA to address the disk, maybe there is a mismatch. "fdisk -l" should give you info about the geometry. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1285672473974865448==-- From alex@daniloff.com Fri Apr 9 09:06:54 1999 From: alex@daniloff.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] About 2.2.5 kernel in SuSE 6.1 and Kppp problem. Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:06:54 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8544557310799953453==" --===============8544557310799953453== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello SuSE folks! My question is primary directed to Mr. Lenz Grimmer and SuSE developers. But if somebody knows the answer any suggestions will be appreciated. After I downloaded and compiled 2.2.5 kernel from SuSE Web Site, I can't use kppp for connection any more. Every time it gets frozen on "Expecting OK" from modem. The old 2.0.36 kernel works with kppp perfectly with the same settings. I can use minicom to connect when I use 2.2.5 kernel but it's not a solution. Why 2.2.5 kernel performs a such strange things with kppp and the modem? Lenz, did your developers fix this issue in the oncoming 6.1 SuSE distro? Thanks Alex =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8544557310799953453==-- From andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 9 09:12:36 1999 From: andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Bad CPU?? Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:12:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01be8269$1bdb81e0$1701a8c0@andy.mcr.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Bad CPU??> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2680319773173253621==" --===============2680319773173253621== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: Lenz Grimmer To: SuSE Linux Mailing List Date: 09 April 1999 10:07 Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Bad CPU?? > >Hi, > >On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote: > >> Is there any definitive way of testing whether a CPU is dying. The >> last 3 days I had experienced an increase in abnormal crashes. =20 >> Enough to drive me back to Windows just to get something done. >> Although, that wasnt exactly flawless eithe r. I swapped processors >> with another computer, and now it seems very stable. The other >> computer apears to be crashing a little more than normal(it runs 95) >> now. Is there any way to verfiy it??? > >Hmm, maybe the little cooling fan gathered too much dust? Is it running at >all? This sounds like a temperature problem to me. Or a hard disk problem! > >Bye, > LenZ > >--=20 >------------------------------------------------------------------ > Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH > mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 > http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germ= any > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2680319773173253621==-- From michael.doerner@clear.net.nz Fri Apr 9 09:25:52 1999 From: michael.doerner@clear.net.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PPP Problems Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:25:52 +1200 Message-ID: <000101be8263$87362b80$0b00a8c0@pc001.baypc.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4652028930058904049==" --===============4652028930058904049== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I am trying to get my ISP connection running on a SuSE 5.3 based PC which I have set up recently. After doing all ISP related settings for suseppp, connecting the (external) modem with minicom, I am struggling at the moment that I try to check my PPP connection with the ppp-up script. When the script wants to send +++ATZ to the modem, nothing happens there, +++ATZ is only shown on the screen??? But I can do: echo +++ATZ > /dev/modem and that time the modem shows the proper reaction!? I also had a successful try with KPPP. The log file entries are as follows: --- 1. try without debug: Apr 9 21:00:26 linux01 kernel: PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation) Apr 9 21:00:26 linux01 kernel: PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc. Apr 9 21:00:26 linux01 kernel: PPP line discipline registered. Apr 9 21:00:26 linux01 kernel: registered device ppp0 Apr 9 20:00:26 linux01 pppd[3458]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 Apr 9 20:01:27 linux01 pppd[3458]: Connect script failed Apr 9 20:01:27 linux01 pppd[3458]: Exit. --- end of 1. try; 2. try now with debug option Apr 9 20:01:39 linux01 pppd[3470]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 Apr 9 20:01:39 linux01 chat[3471]: timeout set to 60 seconds Apr 9 20:01:39 linux01 chat[3471]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Apr 9 20:01:39 linux01 chat[3471]: abort on (BUSY) Apr 9 20:01:39 linux01 chat[3471]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Apr 9 20:01:39 linux01 chat[3471]: abort on (ERROR) Apr 9 20:01:39 linux01 chat[3471]: send (+++\dATZ^M) <--- somewhere I read that \d might help with a delay but it doesn't ... Apr 9 20:01:40 linux01 chat[3471]: expect (OK) Apr 9 21:02:25 linux01 kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistered Apr 9 20:02:40 linux01 chat[3471]: alarm Apr 9 20:02:40 linux01 pppd[3470]: Connect script failed Apr 9 20:02:40 linux01 chat[3471]: Failed Apr 9 20:02:40 linux01 pppd[3470]: Exit. I found a threat "PPP problem" (see below) from October 1998 in my SuSE archive which appears to be exactly the same problem as I just have but I couldn't find the answer for a fix on the list. (or is the only available fix really "Xisp" which is mentioned somewhere? I didn't want to add to much additional tools to my installation. I thought I can get it running with just the existing SuSE tools?) Kind regards, Michael Doerner P.S.: I also haven't figured out my time settings in the above log file entries. There are 2 different clocks (?) now after trying to synchronise with the NT-server's clock by "netdate tcp " ??? > > > >As mentioned in previous posts, I cannot get my modem to dial and the > >system to establish a ppp connect. I've got everything setup properly. > >Now, I find that CHAT won't talk to the modem. Minicom and ECHO > > >/dev/modem do talk to the modem. Is there something peculiar about > chat > >that I must change to get it to work? The ppp-up script uses it and > all > >I get are modem commands echoed to tthe screen when I try ppp-up. > > > >Harry > >- > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4652028930058904049==-- From im@hem.passagen.se Fri Apr 9 09:48:43 1999 From: im@hem.passagen.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 11:48:43 +0200 Message-ID: <370DCCFB.CA4774C2@hem.passagen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9142482156847242062==" --===============9142482156847242062== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can't get my mp3's to play wiht the right speed. They run to slow. Not by much, but just enough to be anoying. I have tried several different versions. x11amp, mpg123 among others. They ALL play too slow. I run a "vanilla" 6.0 with 2.2.3 kernel. Have a PII 266 with 128Mb ram and a sb16pnp. Tried it on a P133 with 64Mb and a ordinary SB16 card, same thing. Wav files as well as .au works ok. No problem there. Only the mp3's. It doesn't matter where they are made. Either windows compressed or Linux. Both types gives same problem. (Not that there SHOULD be any difference...) What could possibly be wrong? Please help... /Rikard -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9142482156847242062==-- From kester@cwcom.net Fri Apr 9 10:06:32 1999 From: kester@cwcom.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Multi modems Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 11:06:32 +0100 Message-ID: <006a01be8271$1e2f8a60$2b0d1280@kester> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Multi modems> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1054238467202504765==" --===============1054238467202504765== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Doesn't FRAD do this? Look in the kernal modules docs (or in the SuSE manual), you can apparently double the speed of your access. k. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Ford To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Multi modems : :On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 06:57:56AM -0400, dizzy73(a)connix.com wrote: :> :> :> Hi :> I was wondering if anyone had information or had been succesful at using 2 :> modems for one dialup connection. :> I have an internal 56k /dev/ttyS0 identified and in use by wvdial :> other is an external 56k that was on the w98 box but since Im using :> ipmasquerading I never use the external. :> So i moved the external to the linux and set it for /dev/ttys2 :> But I would really like to use 2 modems at once ;-> :> Is this possible? Ive looked thru the modem HOWTOS but it dosent see to :> be too popular of a subject. :> any ideas? :> thanks :> rob :> :> Linux Homepage http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73= /LBM.htm> :> S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 :I tried unsuccessfully about a year ago. My ISP gave me a free second :account to play with just to see if I could do it but to no avail... :There's a kernel option you need to enable and then you have to compile :and install the software. :It's called the ppp-multilink protocol and the web link for the homepage I :used to use is now dead... :Good Luck. :Andy : :-- :To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with :this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e :Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the :archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1054238467202504765==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Fri Apr 9 11:01:01 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Free Type? Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:01:01 +0100 Message-ID: <199904091101.MAA24574@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0772958635923442975==" --===============0772958635923442975== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello On 8 Apr 99, at 11:13, Michael Johnson wrote: > Take a look at the XFSTT package. It works great and is fairly easy to > install. Make sure you read the docs though cause there's a few things > you're going to have to do for a working TTFserver once you get done > building the package.=20 Is there a URL for this or is it on the CDs (6.0). Thanks Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0772958635923442975==-- From M.vanOostende@inter.NL.net Fri Apr 9 11:08:47 1999 From: M.vanOostende@inter.NL.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: IBM calls server 'world's fastest' Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:08:47 +0200 Message-ID: <370DDFBF.4796@inter.NL.net> In-Reply-To: <370D4AE5.EF0E4F63@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4541420037885764251==" --===============4541420037885764251== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm pretty new to this list, so I'm not sure whether is has already passed, but I read that IBM will be supporting linux a lot in the future. They made deals with the large distributors about training and certification. Also, the Netfinity 3k, 5k, 5500, P43 en P50 (H70 not mentioned here) will be re-engineered to fully support linux. IBM internal is even using a linux version of Lotus Domino, so hopefully it will be available soon on the market Regs, Marco --------------------- Fred A. Miller wrote: >=20 > This is not Linux related, except that the version IBM purports to be writi= ng > would run on this beast. >=20 > Fred > ____________________________ >=20 > <= A HREF=3D"http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2237374,00.htmlh= ttp://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2237374,00.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4541420037885764251==-- From M.vanOostende@inter.NL.net Fri Apr 9 11:23:41 1999 From: M.vanOostende@inter.NL.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Video card Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:23:41 +0200 Message-ID: <370DE33D.4523@inter.NL.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1373227908137779107==" --===============1373227908137779107== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, I am trying to set up an old box to get running on linux: a Compaq deskpro 4/66M. Everything goes well for the text-based part of the setup, it even detects and runs my CPQ/Adaptec 6260 SCSI adapter as an AD152x :-) The big problem is getting X to run. Originally, the machine used a QVision 1024/E card but this is not supported. I got hold of an undocumented videocard with a Realtek RTG3106 chip but with 1Mb memory, so this should sort-of work. However, after fiddling with the XF86Config file for a week or so I cannot get a stable image, the best image i've seen so far is a screen where the bottom of the screen appears at the top again and ends halfway the screen. The monitor used is a CPQ 151FS. Is there anyone out there who uses either the mentioned monitor or video card? I would appreciate if you want to send me the contents of the XF86Config file, or any other related info. Also, is there somebody who has the QVision card working? Thanx in advance, Marco -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1373227908137779107==-- From neonatus@slo.net Fri Apr 9 12:08:21 1999 From: neonatus@slo.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:08:21 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370DCCFB.CA4774C2@hem.passagen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0889131566289091493==" --===============0889131566289091493== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 09-Apr-99 R. Johnels wrote: >=20 > I can't get my mp3's to play wiht the right speed. > They run to slow. Not by much, but just enough to be anoying. > I have tried several different versions. x11amp, mpg123 among others. > They ALL play too slow. > I run a "vanilla" 6.0 with 2.2.3 kernel. Hi! I don't know the answer I only have one more wuestion. This might be a dumb question but what does the vanilla stand for? THX in advance Bostjan - --- Bo9tjan M|ller [NEONATUS], NEONATUS(a)bigfoot.com, http://surf.to/NEONATUS> =20 ICQ #:7506644, My PGP key http://www2.mf= .uni-lj.si/~tmueller/BM.asc> =20 RSA id: 0x90178DBD, I accept ONLY RSA keys! Powered by S.u.S.E. Linux 6.0. Written with xfmail on 09-Apr-99 at 14:06:12. - --- Vote anarchist =20 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Comment: PGP - Privacy - The Choice Is Yours! Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNw4J0lLaN4+QF429AQHAKwf+ObOfHAhV+fBoXqJvJYzqeo3Ita3S5CdJ ukJQHa/BFbJbB526AbUAmvDNdDp1abTfT0bAN69SRocuVnf6yDHw6wzN/NRUWoeO d0xRb0j5FB88FvdrgYW+wEGar+WvuMiTIFT2Nf8C8qbyUW4Pmk+OFYJw6iuUwF+R gIqtejpls/iOIc5Aii1FDezA1BgAmAuJkFAiQVMwb7fY8tHV7ybfJHQK+emSwSLl a+L4CbzpvhjRvlzjSP9oc6kou3Lvivx/smAVTJnxGlFaDTmAtd7+NuntKeGDssxC uYfl7+6CvyFZ9ja03+MuyjiDJTGKYyfr/bCOZTsccZYvJ8ni9XgWDg=3D=3D =3DusBs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0889131566289091493==-- From Burt_Philip@emc.com Fri Apr 9 12:37:38 1999 From: Burt_Philip@emc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] ATI Rage Fury and SuSE 6.0 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:37:38 -0400 Message-ID: <926A591C08E3D211960600E029101CCC3D0FCC@mxclsa> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] ATI Rage Fury and SuSE 6.0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6509530445983770792==" --===============6509530445983770792== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi Marshall, I had problems with the frame buffer device and FBDev X server using SuSE 6.0 with my Trio3D graphics card. I could get the frame buffer console to work, but trying to start X would crash with an error message. Is this the behavior you are seeing? My solution was to download the source for the 2.2.4 kernel, compile it (an interesting learning experience), install it, and try X again. This solved my problems! I think that the old kernel would only run the frame buffer at 8 bit color depth, but I am not sure. Good luck! Phil -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Burke [mailto:mjburke(= a)wmfinc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 11:19 AM To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: [SuSE Linux] ATI Rage Fury and SuSE 6.0 I cannot get the ATI Rage Fury to work, I have tried many suggestions including using the Banshee workaround using the Frame Buffer, but the Xserver still fails to starts, In the directions it does say that it was using Xfree 3.3.2, and SusE comes with 3.3.3. ---------- Marshall -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6509530445983770792==-- From Burt_Philip@emc.com Fri Apr 9 12:42:02 1999 From: Burt_Philip@emc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] ppp daemon killed Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:42:02 -0400 Message-ID: <926A591C08E3D211960600E029101CCC3D0FCD@mxclsa> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] ppp daemon killed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0391708657814150392==" --===============0391708657814150392== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, Check the permissions of pppd. You should make sure that your user has execute permission. Other people have said that it should have setuid permission, but I don't quite understand what this means, or how to make it so. chmod a+x seemed to work for me. Beware that Yast will try to set the permissions back if you do not change /etc/permissions.conf (I think that is what the file is). later, phil -----Original Message----- From: tf [mailto:hmf(a)softhome.net] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 7:17 PM To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: [SuSE Linux] ppp daemon killed hey all my ppp daemon dies, exit code 1, when I use wvdial to connect. my modem dials, then the daemon dies. what am I=20 missing? (I have suseppp set up wrong, could the settings hose things up?) -tf -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0391708657814150392==-- From im@hem.passagen.se Fri Apr 9 13:09:00 1999 From: im@hem.passagen.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:09:00 +0200 Message-ID: <370DFBEC.94098436@hem.passagen.se> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6445416118284233292==" --===============6445416118284233292== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable vanilla=3D plain. Without any extra features, gadgets or stuffing... Ie. Just a standard instalation... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6445416118284233292==-- From ideasco@csi.com Fri Apr 9 13:37:00 1999 From: ideasco@csi.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PCMCIA Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 09:37:00 -0400 Message-ID: <00c201be8297$309e5cf0$3e67c0d8@ob800ct> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0105344353147743163==" --===============0105344353147743163== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm trying to get PCMCIA to work on my laptop, for using my LAN and modem cards. I have loaded the PCMCIA files from the CD-ROM using YAST, but am not sure what to do next. I'm not sure what/how/when to load the card drivers, etc. I understand that the PCMCIA referred to in the kernel is used to access a PCMCIA-based CD-ROM for initial loading. I have a built-in SCSI port, so don't need that functionality. Any advise would be appreciated. Stanley C. Rogacki, P.E. IDEAS Company (973) 403-9797 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0105344353147743163==-- From e.maryniak@pobox.com Fri Apr 9 14:30:18 1999 From: e.maryniak@pobox.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Summary: Selecting printer drivers for printers (was: Re: [SuSE Linux] Best driver for HP DeskJet 600 in YaST?) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:30:18 +0200 Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990409163018.00915be0@ip005.niwi.knaw.nl> In-Reply-To: <19990404133628.A13922@ip005.Library.KNAW.NL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6959460298867934769==" --===============6959460298867934769== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Talking to myself :-) For HP printers: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi?make=3DHP> Printers in general: http://www.pican= te.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi> Eric. At 01:36 PM 1999-04-04 +0200, Eric Maryniak wrote: > >When configuring the printer with YaST for a HP DeskJet, only these models >are listed: > > djet500 deskjet cdeskjet cdjmono cdjcolor cdj500 cdj550 djet500c dnj650c h= pdj > >Which one is best suited for the 600? >The 600 has a best modus of 600x600dpi, a normal modus of 600x300dpi and _ca= n_ >print in color 300x300dpi. >Thanx for any advise, kind regards, Eric Maryniak -- Eric Maryniak Home page: http://pobox.com/~e.maryniak/> Netherlands Institute for Scientific Information Services (NIWI) Tel/Fax: +31 20 4628650/6685079. Internet: http://www.niwi.knaw.nl/> Home is where the page is. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6959460298867934769==-- From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Fri Apr 9 15:11:37 1999 From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP? Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:11:37 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990408125605.B5782@suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7280454093682108776==" --===============7280454093682108776== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all!; On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Johannes Erdfelt wrote: >=20 > On Thu, Apr 08, 1999, Joop Boonen wrote: > > If you have a 486/33Mhz. You probably only have ISA or ISA and VESA local > > bus. That means that either of the video cards will fit. I don't think an= yone > > still produces ISA video cards. > >=20 > > It's probably not nice to say. But it's the only, you will have to buy > > another PC to use a new video card. >=20 > There is a chance that he may have PCI in his system. Definately does > not have AGP tho. >=20 > Trying running this command: >=20 > cat /proc/pci >=20 > If you get a bunch of lines, then you have PCI in his system. When I use this command this is what I get: Opus:/root # cat /proc/pci PCI devices found: Does this mean that I have PCI and no devices or that there is no PCI at all? TIA! J I M ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany=20 hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ---------------------------------------------- Tired of "King Klinton I" & the Oral Office? Join the Libertarian Party! Check out www.lp.org -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7280454093682108776==-- From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Fri Apr 9 15:21:57 1999 From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCI or AGP? Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:21:57 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370D1694.C98814A5@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4324727904720836435==" --===============4324727904720836435== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Joop Boonen wrote: > Dear Jim, >=20 > I don't know the main reason why you want to replace the video card. Is the= card > that is in the machine right now broken. If so you will be able to get cheap > replacements at a second hand computer shop. Hi Joop; No my card works fine. The reason is that it has only 512k mem with 256 colors. I wanted to up this as far as possible, but it seems that the only ISA card I can find has 1mb. I don't think it's worth changing. The card I use now makes it almost impossible to use Gimp for example.=20 Several times people on the list have said I should get a new computer. This I will do but in 2-3 years. But even if I was to get a new one today I would still want to upgrade this one as much as possible.=20 BTW, I want to thank everyone on the list for helping me. I know software (that's why I use Linux :)), but all this new hardware is confusing. Later! J I M ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany=20 hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ---------------------------------------------- Tired of "King Klinton I" & the Oral Office? Join the Libertarian Party! Check out www.lp.org -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4324727904720836435==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Fri Apr 9 15:26:13 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:26:13 -0700 Message-ID: <199904091526.IAA05963@www1.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5552806403136286815==" --===============5552806403136286815== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I believe this is the most FATAL flaw of Linux(and other Unices) as it sta= rts > to take on Windows for the desktop. People do not want hear that they will > have to download an rpm for their particular distro, and they shouldn't ha= ve > to. One rpm for one program. I realize there are differences(libc5 and > glibc) right now, but that will change. I just can't believe people wont = agree > on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . =20 Since SCO is the only Unix with the legal rights to use the name "Unix", mayb= e we=20 should use *their* directory structure exclusively. Of course, I bet you think that is hogwash (Don't worry... so do I). But thi= s is=20 essentially the reason no one can agree on directory structures -- whose do w= e=20 use? Who gets the monopoly on how our Linux boxes are set up? I see this as a Linux strength... not a FATAL flaw. We could get stuck with = a=20 directory structure that looks like Solaris! The incompatibilities between RPMs have more to do with how installed package= s are=20 cataloged under each Linux. SuSE RPMs don't have a way of checking on a Redh= at=20 machine if the dependancies are met (and vice versa). I guess that distribut= ions=20 using RPM archives should soon attempt to agree on how packages are maintaine= d in=20 the Installed database so it is possible to cross packages and have the=20 dependancies work appropriately. They call them growing pains. Laters, Karsten Johansson ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - http://orders.xoom.com/email> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5552806403136286815==-- From karl.stas@rug.ac.be Fri Apr 9 16:23:37 1999 From: karl.stas@rug.ac.be To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Num Lock in KDE Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 18:23:37 +0200 Message-ID: <000301be8329$e90577a0$611fc19d@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1314323775900490247==" --===============1314323775900490247== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I specified in the rc.config file of my SuSE Linux that Num Lock has to be activated at bootup. But when I then launch KDE, Num Lock is disactivated again. How can I avoid this? Any help will be greatly appreciated. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1314323775900490247==-- From mqf090@lulu.acns.nwu.edu Fri Apr 9 17:29:53 1999 From: mqf090@lulu.acns.nwu.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] About 2.2.5 kernel in SuSE 6.1 and Kppp problem. Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:29:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990409122953.031a3380@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6525719238353459268==" --===============6525719238353459268== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another issue which I'd like to point out is why the PPP option is not compiled into the kernel as a default option. =20 Then there's the issue of why YaST needs to change permissions to kppp, pppd and delete the resolv.conf file everytime you run it w/c results in a "user" not being able to do dial-outs. Isn't this rather strange considering that it is always impressed upon users not to run as "root" except when necessary? Here's my stupid question -- Is there something also which checks whether there were changes done to /etc/permissions such that YaST will chnage it back to the original? ----------------------------------- At 10:06 AM 4/9/99 +0100, you wrote: > >Hello SuSE folks! My question is primary directed to Mr. Lenz Grimmer >and SuSE developers. But if somebody knows the answer any suggestions >will be appreciated. After I downloaded and compiled 2.2.5 kernel from >SuSE Web Site, I can't use kppp for connection any more. Every time it >gets frozen on "Expecting OK" from modem. The old 2.0.36 kernel works >with kppp perfectly with the same settings. I can use minicom to connect >when I use 2.2.5 kernel but it's not a solution. Why 2.2.5 kernel >performs a such strange things with kppp and the modem? Lenz, did your >developers fix this issue in the oncoming 6.1 SuSE distro? Thanks Alex >=20 >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > ----------------------------------------- Mac Q. Flores IV Northwestern University LinuxPowered K e r n e l 2.2.5 ----------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6525719238353459268==-- From kepe@home.com Fri Apr 9 17:45:29 1999 From: kepe@home.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] pre-alpha alpha! Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:45:29 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2078406236831969661==" --===============2078406236831969661== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, there now a ftp server holding the beta alpha 6.0. I have tried to install from the site, but with no results. Do you guys at SuSE know when the gates will be open for a look-see at 6.0 alpha? I am just itching to give it a go...err, test it. Oh, btw the site is ftp.space4u.com/pub/SuSE/ The docs are in German only, but I managed to decipher milo, boot, and root disks out of them. --- Danny Kephart E-Mail: kepe(a)home.com kepe(a)kepe.mybrainhurts.com URL: http://kepe.mybrainhurts.com> 09-Apr-99 12:35:37 CST -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2078406236831969661==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 9 18:24:05 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PPP has me flummoxed! Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 20:24:05 +0200 Message-ID: <370E45C5.A38CEF82@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] PPP has me flummoxed!> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7596864239333652517==" --===============7596864239333652517== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "McCullough, Mike" wrote: >=20 > All, >=20 > Thank you very for the help on getting my PPP up and running. "hhv" and > "dizzy" gave me some great, detailed help and it's been running like a > charm ever since. Well, pleased to hear that. > Name: WINMAIL.DAT > WINMAIL.DAT Type: APPLICATION/X-TNEF > Encoding: BASE64 What's that? I haven't been able to read that attachment? Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7596864239333652517==-- From chjo@tripnet.se Fri Apr 9 18:39:43 1999 From: chjo@tripnet.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Free Type? Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 20:39:43 +0200 Message-ID: <370E496F.D41EB24F@tripnet.se> In-Reply-To: <199904091101.MAA24574@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0010131423550486122==" --===============0010131423550486122== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard wrote: >=20 > Hello >=20 > On 8 Apr 99, at 11:13, Michael Johnson wrote: >=20 > > Take a look at the XFSTT package. It works great and is fairly easy to > > install. Make sure you read the docs though cause there's a few things > > you're going to have to do for a working TTFserver once you get done > > building the package. >=20 > Is there a URL for this or is it on the CDs (6.0). You can download it at http://metalab.u= nc.edu/pub/Linux/X11/fonts/> Tina --=20 Linux - The choice of a GNU generation Homepage: [http://www8.tripnet.se/~chjo/>] -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0010131423550486122==-- From djcroark@ssc.net.au Fri Apr 9 18:48:46 1999 From: djcroark@ssc.net.au To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ISDN and SUSE Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:48:46 +1000 Message-ID: <000001be82b9$998bf700$54d2fea9@ssc.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7870185045298747866==" --===============7870185045298747866== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can someone tell me what is involved in setting up SUSE to have a permanent ISDN connection to the internet including a rough outline of the hardware I may need, I live in Australia, is there anyone in Aus that has acheieved this kind of thing Thanks in advance, Damien Croarken djcroark(a)ssc.net.au -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7870185045298747866==-- From maccer98_@yahoo.com Fri Apr 9 19:06:16 1999 From: maccer98_@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] IP Chain setup / rules Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:06:16 -0700 Message-ID: <19990409190616.4500.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5497604727827332611==" --===============5497604727827332611== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am running SUSE 5.3 with kernel 2.2.3. I am having a problem getting ipchains running with this setup [ipchains 1.3.8]. I have this setup: linux box with two NICs (one working now eth0, the other same type found on bootstrap eth1), a 5 port HUB and a static IP to a cable modem. One has read the requisite ipchains documentation but I am still semi-confused how to tackle this. Any ideas would certainly be appreciated. Thanx for your time. GSM _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5497604727827332611==-- From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Fri Apr 9 19:23:01 1999 From: k01164@ko.sdu.dk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WP 8.0 and Netware Printer Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:23:01 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904090247.TAA05828@clavin.efn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4557628673800344659==" --===============4557628673800344659== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Dennis Soper wrote: >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > I've got my SuSE 6.0 box talking quite happily to and printing from=20 > my Netware servers. Now, is there any way I can print a=20 > WordPerfect 8.0 document; i.e., is there some sort of print to file=20 > feature that WP has to do this, or is there any other way. Or do I=20 > have to plug one of those crummy HP DeskJets into my box? A long way down the list of printers in WP8, there are two printers, you might find useful... They are called something like print through postscript and print through ascii. (Can't check the exact names right now) They tell WP8 to send either raw text or postscript through the normal printer spooling system on your box. Hope this helps Ole -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4557628673800344659==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Fri Apr 9 19:53:32 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Star Office Mail Config (with args apologies) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 20:53:32 +0100 Message-ID: <199904091953.UAA15076@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2708322399152981422==" --===============2708322399152981422== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sorry to ask a question about Star Office (yet again). I've configured most of it and today I tried for the mail option in=20 Star Office. I got the following error message ..... "mail - an=20 outbox is required to perform this action. Create an outbox, then=20 try again". I know that I can create a file anywhere which will be either a=20 mailbox or an outbox. What I'm not sure about is .... do I have to=20 put it in a predefined place or can I just invent one ? Do I have to=20 point Star Office at the mail/outbox when I have created it ? There's a lot of sanity creeping into my linux box which is (mostly) = unexplainable. Only problem I have now is that my 2.5.5 kernel has=20 got gremlins/wobblies in it somewhere. We are sorting out this issue=20 locally though :-) Thank you Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2708322399152981422==-- From paulw@uswestmail.net Fri Apr 9 20:16:36 1999 From: paulw@uswestmail.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] KDE Help Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:16:36 -0700 Message-ID: <19990409201636.10918.cpmta@c000.sfo.cp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8778928554567212836==" --===============8778928554567212836== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How do I get the clock to work? I would like it on the panel. Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8778928554567212836==-- From paulw@uswestmail.net Fri Apr 9 20:19:19 1999 From: paulw@uswestmail.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] KVIRC Help Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:19:19 -0700 Message-ID: <19990409201919.25325.cpmta@c000.sfo.cp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7362615355447027035==" --===============7362615355447027035== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How do I get KVIRC to save my settings? I am logged in as root. When I exit K= VIRC it says it cant write to the kvi.alias.conf and kvi.event.conf files. Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7362615355447027035==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 9 20:38:36 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] pre-alpha alpha! Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 22:38:36 +0200 Message-ID: <370E654C.E9CB7D32@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4517734023825746885==" --===============4517734023825746885== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Danny Kephart wrote: >=20 > Well, there now a ftp server holding the beta alpha 6.0. Hey, what have you been doing the last months? 6.0 is outdated. We are waiting for 6.1 Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4517734023825746885==-- From Gleth@tinet.ie Fri Apr 9 20:47:39 1999 From: Gleth@tinet.ie To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:47:39 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370DCCFB.CA4774C2@hem.passagen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7720583188583129059==" --===============7720583188583129059== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date sent: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 11:48:43 +0200 From: "R. Johnels" To: SuSE Chatlist Subject: [SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0 > I can't get my mp3's to play wiht the right speed. > They run to slow. Not by much, but just enough to be anoying. > I have tried several different versions. x11amp, mpg123 among others. Have you tried calling mpg123 with -2 or -4 (and possibly -m)?=20 I use mpg123 on my SparcStation LX, which is a little old and=20 normally play mp3's by using mpg123 -2m this plays=20 the mp3 at a lesser quality (22MHz instead of 44MHz) but it means=20 I get no slowdown or skipping, which happens if I try to play mp3s=20 normally. (the m is for mono instead of stereo, which helps as I use=20 the built-in speaker) Hope this helps, Jim. Have Fun, Jim. james.mcboyleireland.sun.com Glethtinet.ie Glethwhite-star.com Glethrowanoak.demon.co.uk -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7720583188583129059==-- From djb@redhat.com Fri Apr 9 21:02:17 1999 From: djb@redhat.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:02:17 -0400 Message-ID: <199904092102.RAA04906@chef.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5366855611372240368==" --===============5366855611372240368== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >> on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . =20 > =20 > > http://www.linuxbase.org> >=20 > You must be joking, Donnie. Any perusal of the specs available at > linuxbase.org will show that almost nothing is actually on 'paper'. >=20 > Nowhere can I find or do I hear of any evidence that points to a > really active LBP committee. Why don't you join the mailing lists and see for yourself. I'm there and I post. SuSE folks are there and they post. Same with lots of others. > Even if the committee were active and even if agreement could be > reached soon are the distro's really going to implement this > blueprint. If agreement is reached, yes, I believe folks will implement it. You are more than skeptical, though, which isn't really fair. > If they all do agree unanimously to implement what is the timetable. Unsure. What is the timetable on *any* open source project? I've never seen one for the kernel, XFree86, or anything. This is yet another one. > Nowhere, from none of the parties concerned, do I get any indication > of the urgency of this project or real commitment to it.=20 Then scream at your vendor, not me. > I hope I am wrong but I think that the (hidden) interests of all parties > concerned are not moving in the direction of a LB. And that is not good. That's certainly one opinion. I do not share it, however. This group is led by the same person who leads the FHS. It has been very successful. I have no reason to believe the LSB won't be at=20 least that successful, if not more. These things don't happen overnight, however. If you want it to move faster then *join* in and get some things done. That's how this open source thing works. Don't bitch at me because your timetables aren't being met. --Donnie -- Donnie Barnes http://www.redhat.com/~djb> djb(a)redhat.co= m "Bah." Challenge Diversity. Ignore People. Live Life. Use Linux. 879. V.=20 The more you cry, the less you'll pee. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5366855611372240368==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 9 21:11:46 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCMCIA Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 23:11:46 +0200 Message-ID: <370E6D12.A437CDFE@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <00c201be8297$309e5cf0$3e67c0d8@ob800ct> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1418313995957999543==" --===============1418313995957999543== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Stanley C. Rogacki" wrote: Please have a look at the mailing list archive. There have been several threads WRT within the last two weeks.=20 I have answered several questions myself. If you don't find what you are looking for, tell me and I'll try to find the Info again At a starting point you could use the PCMCIA-mini-Howto it should be on you own machine, I think /usr/doc/howto/ or at ftp://metalab= .unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/PCMCIA-HOWTO>. It's also available in html there. This HOWTO contains nearly twenty (IIRC) links to further Info and advice. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1418313995957999543==-- From stevep@bash.linux-shell.net Fri Apr 9 21:29:19 1999 From: stevep@bash.linux-shell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Ethernet - pppd problems Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:29:19 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7495144351476698204==" --===============7495144351476698204== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mr. Error, I did not see anyone reply to this, so here's my stab... I am fairly sure your problem is due to a misconfigured /etc/resolv.conf file. IOW, DNS is messed up and telnet is timing out.=20 I'm at work so I can't look at my box, but try putting=20 earch nameserver nameserver in the file and see what happens.=20 I had this exact problem years ago but the tiny details escape me.=20 HTH and have a good day! :-) Steve. ------------------------------------ Steve Pauly (281) 496-8041 Global Marine Drilling Co. stevep(a)linux-shell.net steve.pauly(a)glm.com gmdcman(a)mindspring.com On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Read Error wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi, > I have a problem with a local ethernet network when using the pppd. When th= e pppd is down I can telnet from the local machines ok and it gets the login = prompt normally. But when I have the pppd connected to my ISP it seems the te= lnet session "hangs" for up to a minute then after that it logs in normally. = I haven't added any hardware or changed the systen in any way. This problem s= tarted occuring a few weeks ago and I can't figure out what's causing it. I'm= using SuSE 5.3. Any information or help would be greatly appreciated. Many T= hanks... >=20 >=20 > Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere!=20 > ZDNet Mail - http://www.zdnetmail.com> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7495144351476698204==-- From creimer@rahul.net Fri Apr 9 21:55:41 1999 From: creimer@rahul.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] win.dat. was: PPP has me flummoxed! Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:55:41 -0700 Message-ID: <002601be82d3$bb2dbdc0$fe00005a@outlander> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] win.dat. was: PPP has me flummoxed!> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8729721367148694965==" --===============8729721367148694965== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Hmm. Maybe I can configure my netscape to also append such nice useless >stuff to every mail I write. Oh, yes, what about appending a tarball >of my /tmp dir? That wouldn't be advisable. I had a co-worker who made a mistake of sending a 36MB core dump file to an email list rather than directly to his supervisor. About 50 people got this file, preventing them from downloading their email, caused the email server to crash big time for two when all the disk space disappeared, the system administrator had to manually delete each and every email with the attachment, and my coworker had apologize profusely to everyone for a couple of weeks. The only bright spot out of this little disaster was that system administrator was able to get emergency approval to buy a new 30GB RAID subsystem that he's been trying to get for several months. After all, it only takes one stupid programmer to crash the email server, and whole a bunch of stupid programmers can make it happen more often. Christopher Reimer -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8729721367148694965==-- From gregt@nadel.com Fri Apr 9 22:25:56 1999 From: gregt@nadel.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] pre-alpha alpha! Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:25:56 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370E654C.E9CB7D32@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1926571622651864793==" --===============1926571622651864793== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, hhv wrote: >=20 > Danny Kephart wrote: > >=20 > > Well, there now a ftp server holding the beta alpha 6.0. >=20 > Hey, what have you been doing the last months? 6.0 is outdated. > We are waiting for 6.1 For alpha? There hasn't even been a 6.0 for alpha has there? But would SuSE just go ahead and release the alpha version as 6.1 along with the English Intel 6.1? Greg -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1926571622651864793==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Fri Apr 9 22:31:01 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] pre-alpha alpha! Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 00:31:01 +0200 Message-ID: <370E7FA5.51754D71@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] pre-alpha alpha!> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7847749045989979586==" --===============7847749045989979586== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Danny Kephart wrote: >=20 > On 09-Apr-99 hhv wrote: > > > > Danny Kephart wrote: > >> > >> Well, there now a ftp server holding the beta alpha 6.0. > ^^^^^ > ALPHA not i386. And the docs mentioned something about it being > 6.0. I guess I should have typed "AXP" instead of 6.0. Oh, yes, sorry for my ignorance. I nearly fogot that there's something outside the Intel PC universe. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7847749045989979586==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Fri Apr 9 22:35:16 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:35:16 -0500 Message-ID: <370E80A4.ECF3BA9D@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <000301be8262$a66b2c40$2b0d1280@kester> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3974607742853870817==" --===============3974607742853870817== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kester Clegg wrote: >=20 > I think very little, *but* it does miff me a bit when Yast overwrites > certain files (or rather, SuSEconfig does) everytime you run it; e.g. kdmrc, > ppp stuff... and there are many ocassions when running every update tool > (such as those for teTeX) is irratatingly slow. However, I do like the idea > of a central rc.config file with variables you can set which then run > scripts as you enter a particular run level. IMHO, this is a nice feature > once you get the hang of it. > k. Look in /etc/permissions It is where YaST looks to determine what permissions to give certian files. Change pppd and the others to give them the permission values you wish YaST to give them when it runs. JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3974607742853870817==-- From dsoper@efn.org Fri Apr 9 22:37:27 1999 From: dsoper@efn.org To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WinHEC'99: MS open to open source for Windows?!! Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:37:27 -0700 Message-ID: <199904092237.PAA21282@clavin.efn.org> In-Reply-To: <370D54E6.DF0E0626@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4009733548897627616==" --===============4009733548897627616== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8 Apr 99, at 21:16, Fred A. Miller wrote: >=20 > http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-04/lw-0= 4-microsoft.html?04-07> Source code as comedy-- what a concept.... Cheers, Dennis "Custard pies are a sort of esperanto: a universal language."=20 --Noel Godin =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4009733548897627616==-- From michael@merrittpop.com Fri Apr 9 22:42:37 1999 From: michael@merrittpop.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] new kernal Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:42:37 -0500 Message-ID: <370E825D.DB4D5CFC@merrittpop.com> In-Reply-To: <199904072031.NAA28261@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4957795163595374450==" --===============4957795163595374450== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would and could, but really others could do better than could I. For instance, the Linux Kernel HOW-TO got me through my first try when I was cutting my teeth on Linux. I'm sure you'll find it helpful as well.=20 Also, see the README file in the kernel archive. I'd suggest printing it and keeping it handy. Here is the HOW-TO: ftp://metalab= .unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO> tf wrote: >=20 > hey all >=20 > I'm in the process of downloading the 2.2.5 kernal from the suse ftp site. = I tried to install 2.2.3 with no success. > Guess I don't know enough about what I'm doing. Anyway, the file is pretty= big, so i'm assuming its not a patch but > the whole thing. >=20 > I don't suppose anyone feels like walking me through this, do they? >=20 > thanks >=20 > -tf >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- Michael Merritt michael(a)merrittpop.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/> michaelmerritt(a)email.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/jmm/> ICQ: 21021306 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4957795163595374450==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 10 00:20:32 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste" Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 20:20:32 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste"> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4093379710414293871==" --===============4093379710414293871== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, speng wrote: > Does any one know how to do, so that I can use mouse to "COPY and > PASTE" like > in Unix X-window. I am using SuSE 6.0 and a 3-button mouse. Umm... are you talking about when you are *in* X? Since you seem to know about this, do it just like you did in "Unix X-window". If you're talking about on the console, then make sure you have gpm installed and running, then RTFM. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4093379710414293871==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sat Apr 10 00:31:30 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] new kernal Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:31:30 +0200 Message-ID: <370E9BE2.FA579109@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <370E825D.DB4D5CFC@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6123306638777184550==" --===============6123306638777184550== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Merritt wrote: >=20 > I would and could, but really others could do better than could I. For > instance, the Linux Kernel HOW-TO got me through my first try when I was > cutting my teeth on Linux. I'm sure you'll find it helpful as well. > Also, see the README file in the kernel archive. I'd suggest printing > it and keeping it handy. Here is the HOW-TO: >=20 > ftp://metalab= .unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO> These are pretty old, but nevertheless it's always a good idea to read them. The README etc in the top level source directory are also worth reading.=20 And there's lots of docs in the Documentation/ subdirectory.=20 Especially the Changes file, which informs about minimal software requirements for compiling the kernel. In the scripts/ directory ther a script ver_linux, which should also be used. (An enhanced version is available at http://hhv.de/projects/ve= r-linux/usr/bin/ver-linux> ) And if all is ok do make menuconfig make dep clean bzlilo modules modules_install and you should be done. In case of problems post error messages so that people can see what has happened and try to help. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6123306638777184550==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sat Apr 10 01:28:12 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste" Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 03:28:12 +0200 Message-ID: <370EA92C.76BBA746@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste"> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8334013375905329998==" --===============8334013375905329998== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable speng wrote: >=20 > Hi >=20 > Does any one know how to do, so that I can use mouse to "COPY and > PASTE" like > in Unix X-window. I am using SuSE 6.0 and a 3-button mouse. At the VGA console it's just the same. Left Button marks, right button pastes. Additionally, clicking the left button marks a whole word, double-clicking the whole line. There are other nice tricks, too. You can even e.g. reboot your machine or switch consoles using the mouse. Read the man page gpm for this. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8334013375905329998==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 10 02:47:45 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Postgres Client front end... Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:47:45 -0500 Message-ID: <370EBBD1.FB1994B2@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8819379034843088204==" --===============8819379034843088204== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I first installed 5.3 last year I discovered that Postgres was automatically installed. While exploring MySQL I deleted Postgres, the Postgres user account and deamon, and all other traces. Later on, I wanted to reinstall Postgres but YaST couldn't until I manually added the Postgres account and group. Then I had to manually setup the environmental variables and the fire the deamon in the boot script.=20 When I installed pgaccess it ran from KDE just fine. After I upgraded to 6.0 I deleted it again to make room for Oracle, and later Sybase, for testing purposes. I decided to return to postgres so I deleted Sybase and downloaded postgres 6.4.2 and pgaccess-0.96. I installed the source for postgress and compiled and installed it without problems. I set up the environmental variables, created a user in postress called jerry with all rights. Postgres is started, as postgres, via the default "nohup postmaster > server.log 2>&1 &" and it monitors the default port 5432 nicely. I have my hostname, JLKreps, in hba_conf as 127.0.0.2 and trusted. While logged into Linux as jerry I can "psql template1" (from an xterm of KDE) and I am in. I can do everything in the tutorial while in psql. The 'env' command shows my hostname to be JLKreps.=20 HERE IS MY PROBLEM: I have installed both pgaccess and mpsql. They both come up on KDE but neither can access postgress. They both respond with "Connection to database failed... are you sure posgress is connected TCP/IP(with -i) on port 5432?" It's as if KDE doesn't see the ":/usr/local/pgsql/bin" in PATH, but it's xterm's do. I know what you are thinking: calling "wish -f pgaccess.tcl" from an xterm doesn't work either, even though "env" shows the correct PATH. Anyone run into this? --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8819379034843088204==-- From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Sat Apr 10 03:16:29 1999 From: chuckwm_98@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 20:16:29 -0700 Message-ID: <19990410031629.24199.rocketmail@web205.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6978213497628423676==" --===============6978213497628423676== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to apologize for stirring the water here. I never meant for RedHat or anyone else to get slammed. I was stupidly voicing my opinion before doing my homework...I know it takes time for things to change. Thanks for pointin me to the site Donnie. I hope this list can return to it's normal topic.=20 Perhaps this thread would be best put to sleep. =20 Sorry again guys...Can't we all just get along ;) --- djb(a)redhat.com wrote: >=20 >=20 > > >> on things like directory structures, library > locations, etc. . =20 > > =20 > > > http://www.linuxbase.org> > >=20 > > You must be joking, Donnie. Any perusal of the > specs available at > > linuxbase.org will show that almost nothing is > actually on 'paper'. > >=20 > > Nowhere can I find or do I hear of any evidence > that points to a > > really active LBP committee. >=20 > Why don't you join the mailing lists and see for > yourself. I'm there > and I post. SuSE folks are there and they post.=20 > Same with lots of > others. >=20 > > Even if the committee were active and even if > agreement could be > > reached soon are the distro's really going to > implement this > > blueprint. >=20 > If agreement is reached, yes, I believe folks will > implement it. You > are more than skeptical, though, which isn't really > fair. >=20 > > If they all do agree unanimously to implement what > is the timetable. >=20 > Unsure. What is the timetable on *any* open source > project? I've > never seen one for the kernel, XFree86, or anything. > This is yet another > one. >=20 > > Nowhere, from none of the parties concerned, do I > get any indication > > of the urgency of this project or real commitment > to it.=20 >=20 > Then scream at your vendor, not me. >=20 > > I hope I am wrong but I think that the (hidden) > interests of all parties > > concerned are not moving in the direction of a LB. > And that is not good. >=20 > That's certainly one opinion. I do not share it, > however. >=20 > This group is led by the same person who leads the > FHS. It has been > very successful. I have no reason to believe the > LSB won't be at=20 > least that successful, if not more. These things > don't happen overnight, > however. If you want it to move faster then *join* > in and get some > things done. That's how this open source thing > works. Don't bitch > at me because your timetables aren't being met. >=20 >=20 > --Donnie >=20 > -- > Donnie Barnes http://www.redhat.com/~djb> =20 > djb(a)redhat.com "Bah." > Challenge Diversity. Ignore People. Live Life.=20 > Use Linux. 879. V.=20 > The more you cry, the less you'll > pee. >=20 >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to > majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > archive at > http://www.s= use.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6978213497628423676==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Apr 10 03:54:23 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] How far will Microsoft go with open source? Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 23:54:23 -0400 Message-ID: <370ECB6F.DB45531D@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0409454432698893978==" --===============0409454432698893978== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://technew= s.netscape.com/computing/technews/newsitem/0,290,34876,00.html?pt.nc.ne.100.h= ead> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0409454432698893978==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Apr 10 05:01:02 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Microsoft to open source? Not likely Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:01:02 -0400 Message-ID: <370EDB0E.F97199F@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7778442729390212260==" --===============7778442729390212260== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.msnbc.com/news/257754.asp> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7778442729390212260==-- From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr 10 05:11:10 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Epson Color 800 under SuSE 6.0 ? Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:11:10 -0800 Message-ID: <199904100511.VAA00772@wdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4732460429521127450==" --===============4732460429521127450== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well I'm giving up on my new HP 695C printer, but how about if I trade with my wife for her Epson 800, will it work ? -Dee W.D.McKinney (Dee) deem(a)wdm.com Vision & Passion are keys to success. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4732460429521127450==-- From espiritudelvino@hotmail.com Sat Apr 10 06:13:54 1999 From: espiritudelvino@hotmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:13:54 -0500 Message-ID: <19990410061354.95931.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7699391438062236191==" --===============7699391438062236191== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that happened to me a while ago, but under windows95.=20 The problem was that my video resolution was too high, I had=20 800x600 truecolor (24 bit), I changed it to 16 bit color and the mp3=20 worked just fine.... maybe thats the same problem under linux... dont know what exactly caused this problem, but it color thing worked! anyone knows why that happened? Raul B. Mexico. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7699391438062236191==-- From ljackson@techlinks.com Sat Apr 10 06:15:30 1999 From: ljackson@techlinks.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste" Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 23:15:30 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3199042645228660396==" --===============3199042645228660396== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1. Edit your /etc/XF86Config 2. Navigate to your "Pointer" section. 3. Add the item "Emulate3Buttons" (no quotes) 4. Restart X Lester Techlinks Inc. / Livebandwidth.com On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, speng wrote: > > Does any one know how to do, so that I can use mouse to "COPY and > > PASTE" like > > in Unix X-window. I am using SuSE 6.0 and a 3-button mouse. >=20 > Umm... are you talking about when you are *in* X? Since you seem to know > about this, do it just like you did in "Unix X-window". If you're talking > about on the console, then make sure you have gpm installed and running, > then RTFM. >=20 > ------------------------------------------------ > Ewan Dunbar > ------------------------------------------------ > Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at > http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.h= tml> > ------------------------------------------------ >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3199042645228660396==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sat Apr 10 08:48:19 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] local SDB not working Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:48:19 +0200 Message-ID: <370F1053.E831F79C@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6853105646608479212==" --===============6853105646608479212== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, got a problem with my locally installed SDB: I cannot search anymore. For every request, I get a return like: /usr/lib/sdb/cgi-bin/sdb-suche-e: can't open=20 '/usr/doc//doc/support-db/sdb_e/keylist.txt': No such file or directory ^^^^^^^^ No articles found for=20 LPD I can see, the problem is were my marks are, but I do not now which file to alter. J=C3=BCrgen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6853105646608479212==-- From jont@ii.uib.no Sat Apr 10 09:35:37 1999 From: jont@ii.uib.no To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat [off topic] Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:35:37 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904091526.IAA05963@www1.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7140150291567061789==" --===============7140150291567061789== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Karsten Johansson wrote: > Since SCO is the only Unix with the legal rights to use the name "Unix", ma= ybe we=20 > should use *their* directory structure exclusively. I don't think this is correct. SCO now owns the USL (Unix Systems Laboratories) which they purchased from Novell. This in turn means that SCO owns the SystemV code. If you want to use sysV code in your OS, you'll have to license it from SCO. Unix, however, is a registered trademark of The Open Group (www.opengroup.org). Every OS that gets a Unix95 or UNIX98 brand from the Open Group, are entitled to use "Unix" as part of their product name. That's why Compaq can name their OS "Tru64 Unix". To read more about the Unix brand and the Single Unix Specification, take a look at this site: http://www.UNIX-systems.org/> ---J.T.U. #include \\|// - ? (o o) /=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DoOOO=3D(_)=3DOOOo=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D\ | Jon Trygve Utne |e-mail: jont(a)ii.uib.no | | Department of Informatics | Jon.Utne(a)mi.uib.no | | University of Bergen | Jon.Utne(a)student.uib.no | | NORWAY | | | Tlf: |"Smith & Wesson: The original|=20 | Home: +47 55 13 06 13 | point and click interface" | | Work: +47 55 58 40 39 | | | URL: http://www.ii.uib.no/~jont> | = | | .oooO | | ( ) Oooo. | \=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D\ (=3D=3D( )=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D/ \_) ) / (_/ =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7140150291567061789==-- From reaston@stny.rr.com Sat Apr 10 09:46:25 1999 From: reaston@stny.rr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste" Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 05:46:25 -0400 Message-ID: <19990410095143.AAA21275@mail3.stny.rr.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6170575858461875727==" --===============6170575858461875727== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I guess this is a good place for me to clear up something about=20 SaX and/or X that I've never understood. If I have a 3-button=20 mouse (as I do) why would I want to *emulate* three buttons when=20 I have all three already? I recall having to do just that in=20 one case and would have thought that setting was only for 2- button mice (so you can press both buttons to emulate the middle=20 button.) Or maybe my memory is wrong, but it seems that way to=20 me. -Bob On 9 Apr 99, at 23:15, ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote: >=20 > 1. Edit your /etc/XF86Config >=20 > 2. Navigate to your "Pointer" section. >=20 > 3. Add the item "Emulate3Buttons" (no quotes) >=20 > 4. Restart X >=20 >=20 > Lester > Techlinks Inc. / Livebandwidth.com >=20 >=20 > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, speng wrote: > > > Does any one know how to do, so that I can use mouse to "COPY and > > > PASTE" like in Unix X-window. I am using SuSE 6.0 and a 3-button > > > mouse. > >=20 > > Umm... are you talking about when you are *in* X? Since you seem to know > > about this, do it just like you did in "Unix X-window". If you're > > talking about on the console, then make sure you have gpm installed and > > running, then RTFM. > >=20 > > ------------------------------------------------ > > Ewan Dunbar > > ------------------------------------------------ > > Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at > > http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index= .html> > > ------------------------------------------------ > >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6170575858461875727==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Sat Apr 10 10:04:26 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] g++ ... or what's the problem here? Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 06:04:26 -0400 Message-ID: <370F222A.A6E703F8@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <000101be8263$87362b80$0b00a8c0@pc001.baypc.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2693770974376488593==" --===============2693770974376488593== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Doerner wrote: > Hello, > I am trying to install wvdial which was one of the recommendations for my > PPP not working under SuSE 5.3. > I downloaded wvdial and I read the instructions for compile/make and the > requirements. > > When I start make it comes up the following error message: > > g++ $_R_CXXFLAGS - c base64.cc > /bin/sh: g++: command not found > 1) To be able to compile the source in SuSE 5.3 youll first need to start yast and install gpp which is a C++ compiler its in the development section of packages. yast choose and install packages>change create configuration>development>gpp GNU C= ++ compiler F-10 >save configuration>load configuration>start installion Then get the source for WvDial and simply follow the read me 1) To be able to compile the source in SuSE 5.3 youll first need to start yast and install gpp which is a C++ compiler its in the development section of packages. yast choose and install packages>change create configuration>development>gpp GNU C= ++ compiler F-10 >save configuration>load configuration>start installion Then get the source for WvDial and simply follow the read me rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2693770974376488593==-- From richwill@innotts.co.uk Sat Apr 10 10:10:14 1999 From: richwill@innotts.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] qt libraries - newbie Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:10:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01be833a$5509ccc0$c901a8c0@rw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2313187953052623872==" --===============2313187953052623872== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I am trying to run ./configure on several programs I have downloaded, but I get an error saying that it can't find the qt 1.3 libraries. I've had a look in /usr/X11R6/lib and there is a load of qt stuff there. questions: 1) What exactly is a qt library? 2) Do I have to point to it in a PATH variable somewhere? 3) How can I tell if it's the 1.3 version that I have got? Please forgive my terminal ignorance but I am still at the bottom of a very steep learning curve in Linux and I don't really get what's happening with all of these different libraries. Dazed and confused Richard Williamson -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2313187953052623872==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sat Apr 10 10:18:42 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: local SDB not working Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:18:42 +0200 Message-ID: <370F2582.588A05C3@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <370F1053.E831F79C@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3423230860713887640==" --===============3423230860713887640== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Juergen Braukmann wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > got a problem with my locally installed SDB: I cannot search anymore. > For every request, I get a return like: >=20 > /usr/lib/sdb/cgi-bin/sdb-suche-e: can't open > '/usr/doc//doc/support-db/sdb_e/keylist.txt': No such file or directory > ^^^^^^^^ > No articles found for >=20 > LPD >=20 > I can see, the problem is were my marks are, but I do not now which file > to alter. >=20 > J=C3=BCrgen well, I =C5=BDve found a solution. I changed a path /usr/lib/sdb/cgi-bin/sdb-suche-e, though this script should autodetect the path somehow.... Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3423230860713887640==-- From reaston@stny.rr.com Sat Apr 10 10:19:07 1999 From: reaston@stny.rr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] IBM, Linux and WinModems (ie: MWAVE modems) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 06:19:07 -0400 Message-ID: <19990410102425.AAA25662@mail3.stny.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0157060727970554258==" --===============0157060727970554258== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey! Since IBM has announced that they will be supporting Linux=20 does that mean that there's hope for seeing source code drivers=20 or binary support for MWAVE-based modems with DSVD capability? Is there any non-WinModem on the market with DSVD capability? What 56K modem is recommended that has all the voicemail support=20 under Linux? -Bob=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0157060727970554258==-- From jont@ii.uib.no Sat Apr 10 11:31:43 1999 From: jont@ii.uib.no To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:31:43 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5456152933492332295==" --===============5456152933492332295== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When will SuSE jump to glibc2.1? Seems like RH an Debian both are going for 2.1 now, and it'll be pretty difficult to port applications "the easy=20 way" from Debian/RH to SuSE when all new versions of applications need glibc2.1. Another thing that SuSE have to upgrade soon is Sendmail. 8.8.8 is just too old, and it relays spam by default (as has been mentioned before on this list)! An alternative to sendmail would be Exim, which is very good. Are there any plans to port dia >=3D0.40 to SuSE? It would be nice to have an application to draw UML diagrams under SuSE. I now use dia 0.20 from Debian under SuSE (newer versions require glibc2.1 ;-) ) and it's a good start... I could also really need the new UNIX98 compliant ps (for my scripts) and a new version of mount (2.9i?) that can read Sun style automount maps. Well, what do you say, Lenz? Any hope for me? TIA ---J.T.U. #include \\|// - ? (o o) /=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DoOOO=3D(_)=3DOOOo=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D\ | Jon Trygve Utne |e-mail: jont(a)ii.uib.no | | Department of Informatics | Jon.Utne(a)mi.uib.no | | University of Bergen | Jon.Utne(a)student.uib.no | | NORWAY | | | Tlf: |"Smith & Wesson: The original|=20 | Home: +47 55 13 06 13 | point and click interface" | | Work: +47 55 58 40 39 | | | URL: http://www.ii.uib.no/~jont> | = | | .oooO | | ( ) Oooo. | \=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D\ (=3D=3D( )=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D/ \_) ) / (_/ =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5456152933492332295==-- From kukuk@suse.de Sat Apr 10 12:17:18 1999 From: kukuk@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:17:18 +0200 Message-ID: <19990410141718.A3009@allen.suse.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6396244069342130888==" --===============6396244069342130888== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, On Sat, Apr 10, Jon Trygve Utne wrote: >=20 >=20 > When will SuSE jump to glibc2.1? Seems like RH an Debian both are going > for 2.1 now, and it'll be pretty difficult to port applications "the easy=20 > way" from Debian/RH to SuSE when all new versions of applications need > glibc2.1. We have some big problems: StarOffice, Applixware, parts of Netscape, Insure++ and a lot of more commercial programs doesn't run with glibc 2.1, because they use internal functions from glibc 2.0 or ever worser, from ld-linux.so.2. This internal functions doesn't longer exist. glibc 2.1 doesn't export them any longer (could be changed, if the internal interface of that function hasn't changed), or the function does not longer exist (ld-linux.so.2 was=20 rewritten). Don't know how Debian and RedHat plan to solve this. For one week, they hadn't solved it. >=20 > Another thing that SuSE have to upgrade soon is Sendmail. 8.8.8 is just > too old, and it relays spam by default (as has been mentioned before on > this list)! An alternative to sendmail would be Exim, which is very good. SuSE Linux 6.1 has sendmail 8.9.3. >=20 > Are there any plans to port dia >=3D0.40 to SuSE? It would be nice to have > an application to draw UML diagrams under SuSE. I now use dia 0.20 from > Debian under SuSE (newer versions require glibc2.1 ;-) ) and it's a good > start... I hope SuSE Linux 6.2 will work with glibc 2.1.=20 >=20 > I could also really need the new UNIX98 compliant ps (for my scripts) > and a new version of mount (2.9i?) that can read Sun style automount > maps. Do you mean procps 2.0 ? To many changes in the parameters.=20 SuSE Linux 6.1 has mount 2.9i. > Well, what do you say, Lenz? Any hope for me? SuSE has more people then only Lenz ;-) --=20 Thorsten Kukuk http://www.suse.de/~kukuk/> kukuk(a)sus= e.de SuSE GmbH Schanzaeckerstr. 10 90443 Nuernberg Linux is like a Vorlon. It is incredibly powerful, gives terse, cryptic answers and has a lot of things going on in the background. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6396244069342130888==-- From michael.doerner@clear.net.nz Sat Apr 10 13:04:57 1999 From: michael.doerner@clear.net.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] g++ ... or what's the problem here? Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 01:04:57 +1200 Message-ID: <000001be8352$bc1c97e0$0b00a8c0@pc001.baypc.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <370F222A.A6E703F8@connix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3414737429358897081==" --===============3414737429358897081== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks a lot for your help. Progress with both now: with g++ (gpp as I just learned) and a successful wvdial make and also with the SuSE scripts!! As you show on your web site what to put in /etc/suseppp/generic.options ... that made the progress there! My script (generated by YAST) contained 4 blank lines before the 'name' line. I filled these lines now with parameters (/dev/modem, 19200, crtscts, lock) and since that time, the 'ppp-up' script runs! Since you had already the information on your site I assume, there were quite a few others before with the same problem? What is wrong there with YAST, generating the improper generic.options file? (This should be more a question for SuSE but I guess they don't care. They will be busy working on version 6.1 rather than looking into this). Thanks again for your help. Michael Doerner -----Original Message----- From: dizzy [mailto:dizzy73(a)connix.= com] Sent: Saturday, 10 April 1999 22:04 To: Michael Doerner Cc: Suse-Linux-E(a)Suse. Com Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] g++ ... or what's the problem here? Michael Doerner wrote: > Hello, > I am trying to install wvdial which was one of the recommendations for my > PPP not working under SuSE 5.3. > I downloaded wvdial and I read the instructions for compile/make and the > requirements. > > When I start make it comes up the following error message: > > g++ $_R_CXXFLAGS - c base64.cc > /bin/sh: g++: command not found > 1) To be able to compile the source in SuSE 5.3 youll first need to start yast and install gpp which is a C++ compiler its in the development section of packages. yast choose and install packages>change create configuration>development>gpp GNU C++ compiler F-10 >save configuration>load configuration>start installion Then get the source for WvDial and simply follow the read me 1) To be able to compile the source in SuSE 5.3 youll first need to start yast and install gpp which is a C++ compiler its in the development section of packages. yast choose and install packages>change create configuration>development>gpp GNU C++ compiler F-10 >save configuration>load configuration>start installion Then get the source for WvDial and simply follow the read me rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3414737429358897081==-- From andyford@nothnbut.net Sat Apr 10 13:46:10 1999 From: andyford@nothnbut.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] qt libraries - newbie Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 08:46:10 -0500 Message-ID: <19990410084610.B5606@dave.ford.saint-louis.mo.us> In-Reply-To: <000d01be833a$5509ccc0$c901a8c0@rw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7811943662425595169==" --===============7811943662425595169== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 11:10:14AM +0100, Richard Williamson wrote: >=20 > Hi all, > I am trying to run ./configure on several programs I have downloaded, but I > get an error saying that it can't find the qt 1.3 libraries. I've had a I'm having the same problem except that my desired build wants=20 qt 1.42, but may be it's something Red-Hat specific that the=20 developers are doing that screws up on SuSE. > look in /usr/X11R6/lib and there is a load of qt stuff there. > questions: > 1) What exactly is a qt library? A library is shared code that any program can use. > 2) Do I have to point to it in a PATH variable somewhere? A similar but different thing. The PATH is for executables. For libraries, the compiler searches ( I think) in all the directories in /etc/ld.so.conf. > 3) How can I tell if it's the 1.3 version that I have got? try a "locate libqt". I get=20 /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libqt.so /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libqt.so.1 /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libqt.so.1.42 /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libqthreads.so /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libqthreads.so.0 /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libqthreads.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/libqt.so /usr/lib/libqt.so.1 /usr/lib/libqt.so.1.42 /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt.so /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt.so.1 /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt.so.1.42 I don't know why configure can't find 'em. I'm going to investigate passing options to configure to force ti to look in the right places... Yours, Andy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7811943662425595169==-- From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Sat Apr 10 13:53:03 1999 From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Ethernet - pppd problems Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 08:53:03 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2923273156874931292==" --===============2923273156874931292== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, or better yet [ ;-) ], change your /etc/nsswitch.conf to look like this: -------start--------- alexm(a)quake:/tmp > cat /etc/nsswitch.conf # passwd: db files nis # shadow: db files nis # group: db files nis passwd: compat group: compat hosts: files dns <---- here networks: files dns <---- here ervices: db files protocols: db files rpc: db files ethers: db files netmasks: files netgroup: files bootparams: files automount: files aliases: files ---------end----------- then reboot or: # killall -HUP inetd -alexm On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Steve Pauly wrote: >=20 > Mr. Error, >=20 > I did not see anyone reply to this, so here's my stab... >=20 > I am fairly sure your problem is due to a misconfigured /etc/resolv.conf > file. IOW, DNS is messed up and telnet is timing out.=20 >=20 > I'm at work so I can't look at my box, but try putting=20 >=20 > search > nameserver > nameserver >=20 > in the file and see what happens.=20 >=20 > I had this exact problem years ago but the tiny details escape me.=20 >=20 > HTH and have a good day! :-) >=20 > Steve. >=20 > ------------------------------------ > Steve Pauly (281) 496-8041 > Global Marine Drilling Co. > stevep(a)linux-shell.net > steve.pauly(a)glm.com > gmdcman(a)mindspring.com >=20 >=20 > On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Read Error wrote: >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Hi, > > I have a problem with a local ethernet network when using the pppd. When = the pppd is down I can telnet from the local machines ok and it gets the logi= n prompt normally. But when I have the pppd connected to my ISP it seems the = telnet session "hangs" for up to a minute then after that it logs in normally= . I haven't added any hardware or changed the systen in any way. This problem= started occuring a few weeks ago and I can't figure out what's causing it. I= 'm using SuSE 5.3. Any information or help would be greatly appreciated. Many= Thanks... > >=20 > >=20 > > Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere!=20 > > ZDNet Mail - http://www.zdnetmail.com> > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/S= upport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > >=20 >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2923273156874931292==-- From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 10 13:54:45 1999 From: richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Star Office...oops, installed as root Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:54:45 +0100 Message-ID: <001901be8359$b1f05c00$9a42883e@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5444608526919364779==" --===============5444608526919364779== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --===============5444608526919364779==-- From roed@hem.utfors.se Sat Apr 10 13:55:28 1999 From: roed@hem.utfors.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:55:28 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990410141718.A3009@allen.suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3800486877809094203==" --===============3800486877809094203== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > SuSE Linux 6.1 has sendmail 8.9.3. Any plans for QMail ? - * Linux - ett stabilare s=C3=A4tt att leva * - - * Linux - a more stabile way to live * - -- Mvh Rolf Edlund Tel:070-3049194 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3800486877809094203==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 10 13:57:02 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] qt libraries - newbie Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:57:02 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990410084610.B5606@dave.ford.saint-louis.mo.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9157921566161768035==" --===============9157921566161768035== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Andy Ford wrote: > A similar but different thing. The PATH is for executables. For > libraries, the compiler searches ( I think) in all the directories > in /etc/ld.so.conf. Not quite. The compiler doesn't look for libraries, that's the linker's job. It looks in the variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and in /etc/ld.so.cache, in /usr/lib, and in /lib. Try using -L/dirwheremyqtlibsare in the Makefile. If you ran ./configure (if there was one) it should have done this for you. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9157921566161768035==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Apr 10 14:22:20 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: qt libraries - newbie Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:22:20 +0200 Message-ID: <19990410162220.B278@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <000d01be833a$5509ccc0$c901a8c0@rw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7985823293365257386==" --===============7985823293365257386== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 11:10 +0100, Richard Williamson wrote: > I am trying to run ./configure on several programs I have downloaded, but I > get an error saying that it can't find the qt 1.3 libraries. I've had a > look in /usr/X11R6/lib and there is a load of qt stuff there. > questions: Sounds like you forgot to install the qtdevel, qtext and qtcompat packages. > 1) What exactly is a qt library? It's a library for writing graphical user interfaces. KDE, for instance, uses it. > 2) Do I have to point to it in a PATH variable somewhere? No, you shouldn't have to bother about that. If you use the qt stuff that came with SuSE Linux, the necessary settings are done automatically. > 3) How can I tell if it's the 1.3 version that I have got? Again, if you use the qt supplied with SuSE, a rpm -q qt will tell it. > Please forgive my terminal ignorance but I am still at the bottom of a very > steep learning curve in Linux and I don't really get what's happening with > all of these different libraries. No need to apologize, this mailinglist is exactly the right place to ask questions like this. Ciao, Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7985823293365257386==-- From jzents@earthlink.net Sat Apr 10 14:23:39 1999 From: jzents@earthlink.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Star Office...oops, installed as root Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:23:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000301be835d$baa0a540$8e3afad0@pin> In-Reply-To: <001901be8359$b1f05c00$9a42883e@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4345374769286867551==" --===============4345374769286867551== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rich,
I=20 installed for myself and my wife. I logged in as root and mounted the CD=20 and did the things neccessary to prepare. Then I switched consols and=20 logged in as wife and did the install under her login. Seems to have = worked fine.
Jeff=20 Zents
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On= Behalf=20 Of Richard Booth
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 1999 8:55=20 AM
To: SuSE List
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Star=20 Office...oops, installed as root

Hi

I have installed Star Office to then read the help files on installation=20 and discovered I should have not installed under root user if I am runnin= g a=20 stand alone system.

I want to use Star Office for two users, currently it is installed as=20 root user in /usr.

Any advice on getting Star Office running for other users? How have you=20 setup your system?

Thanks

Rich

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--===============4345374769286867551==-- From andyford@nothnbut.net Sat Apr 10 14:25:57 1999 From: andyford@nothnbut.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: korg build Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:25:57 -0500 Message-ID: <19990410092557.D5606@dave.ford.saint-louis.mo.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3212966768110334684==" --===============3212966768110334684== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 01:18:13PM -0400, Preston Brown wrote: > On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Andy Ford wrote: >=20 > > Hi Preston > > I am very anxious to try korganizer; the screenshots make me drool! > Make sure you have qt-devel installed as well. Did it, had it, there's something very strange going on: ella:/usr/local/src/korganizer-1.1 # ls /usr/lib/qt/include/ . qglobal.h qpsprinter.h .. qgmanager.h qptrdict.h qaccel.h qgroupbox.h qpushbutton.h . . . qglist.h qprogressdialog.h qwmatrix.h So there's the includes right? Similarly for the libs, so I try to force the issue: ella:/usr/local/src/korganizer-1.1 # ./configure --with-qt-dir=3D/usr/lib/qt = --with-qt-includes=3D/usr/lib/qt/include --with-qt-libraries=3D/usr/lib/qt/lib . . . checking for killpg in -lucb... no checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt >=3D 1.42 (libraries) not found. Plea= se check your installation! =20 So I'm very puzzled. Yours, Andy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at
<= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3212966768110334684==-- From graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk Sat Apr 10 14:32:33 1999 From: graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:32:33 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990410141718.A3009@allen.suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3164682267312472588==" --===============3164682267312472588== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thorsten Kukuk writes: > Do you mean procps 2.0 ? To many changes in the parameters.=20 > SuSE Linux 6.1 has mount 2.9i. I am running procps 2.02 (self compiled) with NO problems at all under Suse 6.0. If there are any incompatibilities, I haven't seen any. ps, top, vmstat etc all seem to work fine. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3164682267312472588==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Apr 10 14:36:51 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: KDE on SuSE 5.1 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:36:51 +0200 Message-ID: <19990410163651.C278@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <8325674B.00526C8D.00@oxinotes.oxiquim.cl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3657391310024400417==" --===============3657391310024400417== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 14:00 -0200, Leonel Rivas wrote: > Hi, im new on this list, and im looking for information about KDE on SuSE > 5.1, Ive been searching the KDE Site, but found information only about KDE > and SuSE 5.3 or 6.0. > May i install KDE on this SuSE 5.1? Yes, this should be possible. It's probably a good idea to get the KDE sources in tar.gz format and compile and install them yourself. Ciao, Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3657391310024400417==-- From andyford@nothnbut.net Sat Apr 10 14:40:22 1999 From: andyford@nothnbut.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] g++ ... or what's the problem here? Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:40:22 -0500 Message-ID: <19990410094022.E5606@dave.ford.saint-louis.mo.us> In-Reply-To: <000001be8352$bc1c97e0$0b00a8c0@pc001.baypc.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3484082434757189911==" --===============3484082434757189911== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 01:04:57AM +1200, Michael Doerner wrote: >=20 > youll first need to start yast and install gpp which is a C++ compiler its > in the development section of packages. > yast >=20 and what does the group think about this mess: gpp is installed but seemingly= lost! Here's the disastrous ending: g++ -s -o wvdial wvdial.o wvdial.a ../configfile/configfile.a ../streams/str= eams.a ../utils/utils.a =20 /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open crtbegin.o: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [wvdial] Error 1 make: *** [subdirs] Error 2 But check this out: bash-2.02# locate crtbegin.o /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtbegin.o o it's somewhere... helllllp! andy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3484082434757189911==-- From jpg@hpcvsjpg.cv.hp.com Sat Apr 10 14:46:57 1999 From: jpg@hpcvsjpg.cv.hp.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PCMCIA NIC's Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 07:46:57 -0700 Message-ID: <199904101446.HAA15806@hpcvsjpg.cv.hp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9000086530907645462==" --===============9000086530907645462== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey gang, Looking for a list of currently supported, from within linuxrc, PCMCIA NIC's for SuSE 5.3. Is there such a list and where is it? TIA John -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9000086530907645462==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Sat Apr 10 15:12:35 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Star Office...oops, installed as root Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:12:35 -0500 Message-ID: <370F6A63.898658F7@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <001901be8359$b1f05c00$9a42883e@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6251578559910354396==" --===============6251578559910354396== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard, I installed it in both my user account and my wifes, and registered it separately for both installs under both our names and it works fine like this..takes up twice the space, but with HD's being cheap..it was not a worry for me. laters, =20 > Hi >=20 > I have installed Star Office to then read the help files on > installation and discovered I should have not installed under root > user if I am running a stand alone system. >=20 > I want to use Star Office for two users, currently it is installed as > root user in /usr. >=20 > Any advice on getting Star Office running for other users? How have > you setup your system? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Rich >=20 > -- --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6251578559910354396==-- From babylon51@ibm.net Sat Apr 10 15:26:35 1999 From: babylon51@ibm.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Unsubscribe Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:26:35 +0300 Message-ID: <005001be8366$a9fd3880$e0545c8b@qwerty> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3225663695068836243==" --===============3225663695068836243== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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--===============3225663695068836243==-- From cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl Sat Apr 10 15:38:18 1999 From: cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:38:18 +0200 Message-ID: <19990410173818.B22374@griend.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3515480906010165424==" --===============3515480906010165424== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 03:55:28PM +0200, Rolf Edlund wrote: >> SuSE Linux 6.1 has sendmail 8.9.3. > Any plans for QMail ? I prefer Qmail also... Greetings, Cees. --=20 DujDaj HubtaHvIS Hegh 'e' tul Hoch tlhIngan. To die defending his ship is the hope of every Klingon. Mark Okrand, "Star Trek: The Klingon Way - A Warrier's Guide" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at
<= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3515480906010165424==-- From dproc@dol.net Sat Apr 10 15:49:06 1999 From: dproc@dol.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sndconfig...where is this, SuSE 6.0, where is this? et al Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:49:06 -0400 Message-ID: <199904101549.LAA00330@swanage> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0837285876794643491==" --===============0837285876794643491== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > From: "Jeff" > Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:23:31 -0500 >=20 > I am a newbie to Linux, SuSE in particular. I have installed, in the past, > & used FreeBSD (2.2.6). >=20 > I recently was impressed enough with what I heard about Linux, SuSE in > particular, that I bought it. SuSE is my first Linux*, I installed it a few weeks ago, and it was far easier to install on my used system than Windows (I have given up on Windows, their CD-ROM is gathering dust.) =20 > My machine is MSNT based, as follows: > AMD K6-2/350 > 64MB SDRAM > Canopus Total 3D PCI video card, with Rendition, and Verite 1000 chip > Creative Labs Sound BLaster PCI 128 sound card > Symbios Logic 53C416 SCSI card (came w/ my HP Scanjet 4P.) > ATAPI CD ROM (Warhens? generic from Best Buy) > Motorola Bitsurfer 288 internal modem (Legacy) > 3 internal hard drives. c:\ is NT 4.0 with NTFS. SuSE is on its own, > dedicated hdd, and I boot from a floppy, TO Lilo, until I get brave enough > to strip the MBR from the floppy and move it over to c:\. Okay? Here're my > questions. > Printer is an HP LaserJet 1100 Drool, drool. Do you use NT Workstation or Server? Does loadlin run on NT? That might make you a little less nervous than putting Lilo on your MBR. I don't have a utility for backing up and restoring MBRs - anyone any suggestions? I only have one hard disk and no tape drive yet, so I spend all my time being nervous! I am not sure what you mean by stripping the MBR from your floppy and moving that to C: If it is what it sounds like, it won't work, as the MBR is specific to the disk geometry. Don't worry too much though, in YaST under the "Kernel and boot configuration" menu there is a utility that will build you a Lilo on the MBR of a hard disk - if you are really confident that it won't harm your NT ! YaST takes no brains to work - I should know. (It will also help you build spare boot floppies, though IMHO it is just as easy to do manually.) I have S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3 > I have no sound, either in X-term, or KDE. I typed "sndconfig" as root, but > the response is that there is no such command. I can put a music CD in, > press play, & see the activity in the player, and it's reading the CD's > properties correctly, but no sound. My first question is, how can I > configure my sound card, or better yet, will I be able to? >=20 Dig out the chapter on compiling kernels in your SuSE manual. The binary kernels on the CD-ROM do not include sound for reliability. I have not got around to compiling a kernel with sound support anyway. I probably won't as I want to use my speakers and mic to use the modem as a hands-free telephone. > Second question: I can't find my modem & successfully querry it from KPPP. > In NT it's com 2; in SuSE, it's ttyS1, but the response when that device is > selected in KPPP is always "modem busy." *IF* however, I select device as > 3, as in ttyS3, cua3, etc., it will querry the modem, and I hear it *START* > to dial, then KPPP tells me "modem querry timed out." I've checked my conf > file & fs tab, etc., and the modem is there, and I've used YAST over & again > to install the modem. I tried going to an X-Term and typing "ln -s > /dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem" When I do, the response is that it already exists. > The modem is PNP, but I have PNP disabled via jumper. I have configured > networking as PPP & the PPP device as modem. I have no NIC, and my sole > connection to the 'net is my ISP, which uses dynamic IP. Should I edit a > file's properties & make this device cua1? TtyS1 surprised me, as I expected > it to be cua1. I had this problem with FreeBSD, where it tried to make my > mouse a tty, as opposed to a cua; when I edited the properties, all was > fine. I just don't know what file(s) to edit, for sure. It sounds like you need to configure the correct address and irq for ttyS1. In S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3 the file to edit is=20 /sbin/init.d/serial You need the appropriate setserial command for your modem, for example ${SETSERIAL} /dev/ttyS1 uart 16550A port 0x2F8 irq 3 I am sure you know where to find the correct values - either match your jumper settings with the modem manual, or find out what Windows* is using. (For fast troubleshooting, you can also enter setserial commands interactively.) Don't let tty worry you - according to the more recent docs it is preferred and cua deprecated, at least as I understood it. Another suggestion - rather than use a PPP package as your first attempt to contact the modem, login as root and use minicom or kermit (C-kermit isn't on the CD but is nice to have and easy to install.) Type typical modem commands (see the modem manual) and see if you get a sensible response. Then type the commands to dial your ISP and see if the modem makes a good connection. When you have that working, start to test your PPP software. You could also try the suseppp package. Somewhere in the HOWTO there is also a suggestion for connecting pppd directly to a dial-up connection you made manually at the console - it is quite simple and reassuring to get that to happen as I recall. Good luck and let us know how it works. dproc * Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds * Windows and Windows NT are trademarks or registered trademarks of Microsoft -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0837285876794643491==-- From dproc@dol.net Sat Apr 10 15:49:12 1999 From: dproc@dol.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sndconfig...where is this, SuSE 6.0, where is this? et al Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:49:12 -0400 Message-ID: <199904101549.LAA00331@swanage> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5629925909036445181==" --===============5629925909036445181== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > From: "Jeff" > Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:23:31 -0500 >=20 > I am a newbie to Linux, SuSE in particular. I have installed, in the past, > & used FreeBSD (2.2.6). >=20 > I recently was impressed enough with what I heard about Linux, SuSE in > particular, that I bought it. SuSE is my first Linux*, I installed it a few weeks ago, and it was far easier to install on my used system than Windows (I have given up on Windows, their CD-ROM is gathering dust.) =20 > My machine is MSNT based, as follows: > AMD K6-2/350 > 64MB SDRAM > Canopus Total 3D PCI video card, with Rendition, and Verite 1000 chip > Creative Labs Sound BLaster PCI 128 sound card > Symbios Logic 53C416 SCSI card (came w/ my HP Scanjet 4P.) > ATAPI CD ROM (Warhens? generic from Best Buy) > Motorola Bitsurfer 288 internal modem (Legacy) > 3 internal hard drives. c:\ is NT 4.0 with NTFS. SuSE is on its own, > dedicated hdd, and I boot from a floppy, TO Lilo, until I get brave enough > to strip the MBR from the floppy and move it over to c:\. Okay? Here're my > questions. > Printer is an HP LaserJet 1100 Drool, drool. Do you use NT Workstation or Server? Does loadlin run on NT? That might make you a little less nervous than putting Lilo on your MBR. I don't have a utility for backing up and restoring MBRs - anyone any suggestions? I only have one hard disk and no tape drive yet, so I spend all my time being nervous! I am not sure what you mean by stripping the MBR from your floppy and moving that to C: If it is what it sounds like, it won't work, as the MBR is specific to the disk geometry. Don't worry too much though, in YaST under the "Kernel and boot configuration" menu there is a utility that will build you a Lilo on the MBR of a hard disk - if you are really confident that it won't harm your NT ! YaST takes no brains to work - I should know. (It will also help you build spare boot floppies, though IMHO it is just as easy to do manually.) I have S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3 > I have no sound, either in X-term, or KDE. I typed "sndconfig" as root, but > the response is that there is no such command. I can put a music CD in, > press play, & see the activity in the player, and it's reading the CD's > properties correctly, but no sound. My first question is, how can I > configure my sound card, or better yet, will I be able to? >=20 Dig out the chapter on compiling kernels in your SuSE manual. The binary kernels on the CD-ROM do not include sound for reliability. I have not got around to compiling a kernel with sound support anyway. I probably won't as I want to use my speakers and mic to use the modem as a hands-free telephone. > Second question: I can't find my modem & successfully querry it from KPPP. > In NT it's com 2; in SuSE, it's ttyS1, but the response when that device is > selected in KPPP is always "modem busy." *IF* however, I select device as > 3, as in ttyS3, cua3, etc., it will querry the modem, and I hear it *START* > to dial, then KPPP tells me "modem querry timed out." I've checked my conf > file & fs tab, etc., and the modem is there, and I've used YAST over & again > to install the modem. I tried going to an X-Term and typing "ln -s > /dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem" When I do, the response is that it already exists. > The modem is PNP, but I have PNP disabled via jumper. I have configured > networking as PPP & the PPP device as modem. I have no NIC, and my sole > connection to the 'net is my ISP, which uses dynamic IP. Should I edit a > file's properties & make this device cua1? TtyS1 surprised me, as I expected > it to be cua1. I had this problem with FreeBSD, where it tried to make my > mouse a tty, as opposed to a cua; when I edited the properties, all was > fine. I just don't know what file(s) to edit, for sure. It sounds like you need to configure the correct address and irq for ttyS1. In S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3 the file to edit is=20 /sbin/init.d/serial You need the appropriate setserial command for your modem, for example ${SETSERIAL} /dev/ttyS1 uart 16550A port 0x2F8 irq 3 I am sure you know where to find the correct values - either match your jumper settings with the modem manual, or find out what Windows* is using. (For fast troubleshooting, you can also enter setserial commands interactively.) Don't let tty worry you - according to the more recent docs it is preferred and cua deprecated, at least as I understood it. Another suggestion - rather than use a PPP package as your first attempt to contact the modem, login as root and use minicom or kermit (C-kermit isn't on the CD but is nice to have and easy to install.) Type typical modem commands (see the modem manual) and see if you get a sensible response. Then type the commands to dial your ISP and see if the modem makes a good connection. When you have that working, start to test your PPP software. You could also try the suseppp package. Somewhere in the HOWTO there is also a suggestion for connecting pppd directly to a dial-up connection you made manually at the console - it is quite simple and reassuring to get that to happen as I recall. Good luck and let us know how it works. dproc * Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds * Windows and Windows NT are trademarks or registered trademarks of Microsoft -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5629925909036445181==-- From alain.buret@village.uunet.be Sat Apr 10 16:20:20 1999 From: alain.buret@village.uunet.be To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IBM, Linux and WinModems (ie: MWAVE modems) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:20:20 +0200 Message-ID: <370F7A44.6C0C98BE@village.uunet.be> In-Reply-To: <19990410102425.AAA25662@mail3.stny.rr.com@machina.stny.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3839168271407640894==" --===============3839168271407640894== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hy Bob Like you, I hope that IBM will do something about Winmodem ... I have a Thinkpad and the winmodem gives me great satisfaction ... under Winblows ... I would have same satisfaction under Linux. Alain BURET Bob Easton wrote: > Hey! Since IBM has announced that they will be supporting Linux > does that mean that there's hope for seeing source code drivers > or binary support for MWAVE-based modems with DSVD capability? > Is there any non-WinModem on the market with DSVD capability? > What 56K modem is recommended that has all the voicemail support > under Linux? > > -Bob > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3839168271407640894==-- From mha@suse.de Sat Apr 10 16:34:02 1999 From: mha@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:34:02 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990410173818.B22374@griend.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7140495199632417138==" --===============7140495199632417138== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Cees van de Griend wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 03:55:28PM +0200, Rolf Edlund wrote: > >> SuSE Linux 6.1 has sendmail 8.9.3. > > Any plans for QMail ? >=20 > I prefer Qmail also... The reason it's not shipped is ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/= qmail/dist.html> I know, there's even commercial software on the CD, but that's user software, not system software. --=20 Michael Hasenstein http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/> Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7140495199632417138==-- From grimmer@suse.de Sat Apr 10 16:52:56 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New user Novell question Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:52:56 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1435347773467013693==" --===============1435347773467013693== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andy, On 8 Apr 1999, Andy Thomson wrote: > I have been using SuSE 6.0 for a little while at home. Now I want to > install it on my new machine at work, and ditch Win95. My question is > can I get Linux to act as a client on a Novell 4.11 network? Is there > a VLM/NETX type program for Linux? You can use mars_nwe to emulate a Novell 3.x - Server and -Client. For Novell 4.x and 5.x, you need a commercial solution. Caldera Linux has something like this, this package works on SuSE Linux, too. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1435347773467013693==-- From grimmer@suse.de Sat Apr 10 16:53:31 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] unsubscribing? Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:53:31 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370D5D1D.437E7D2@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2760541299210891745==" --===============2760541299210891745== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote: > I am not a complete moron, but for some reason my old isp mail address > won't unsubscribe..I am getting rid of the account at the end of the > month..but until I do a full switch over...I need to check this > account..and I followed the instructions to unsubcribe the > account..didn't work... >=20 > if anyone one who runs the list can help me..the address is > sinthetk(a)inlink.com :/ Done. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2760541299210891745==-- From grimmer@suse.de Sat Apr 10 17:02:50 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:02:50 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7319752673719017840==" --===============7319752673719017840== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Rolf Edlund wrote: > On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: >=20 > > SuSE Linux 6.1 has sendmail 8.9.3. >=20 > Any plans for QMail ? Nope - we were not allowed to put it on CD :( But we'll have Postfix instead :) Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7319752673719017840==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Apr 10 17:05:34 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Star Office...oops, installed as root Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:05:34 +0200 Message-ID: <19990410190534.A272@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <370F6A63.898658F7@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3790636082715203932==" --===============3790636082715203932== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 10:12 -0500, Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote: > I installed it in both my user account and my wifes, and registered it > separately for both installs under both our names and it works fine like > this..takes up twice the space, but with HD's being cheap..it was not a > worry for me. You can also do a multi user install to save HD space. First install SO as root using `setup /net'. Then install it for every user with `setup' and choose workstation install. This way SO needs only 2 additional MB for every user. Ciao, Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3790636082715203932==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Apr 10 17:05:57 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PC World News: Microsoft Opening Yet More Windows Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:05:57 -0400 Message-ID: <370F84F5.D0876722@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8421852622305483740==" --===============8421852622305483740== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.pcworld.com/cg= i-bin/pcwtoday?ID=3D10426> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8421852622305483740==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Apr 10 17:08:37 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: korg build Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:08:37 +0200 Message-ID: <19990410190837.B272@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <19990410092557.D5606@dave.ford.saint-louis.mo.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2896077881025060261==" --===============2896077881025060261== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 09:25 -0500, Andy Ford wrote: > > > I am very anxious to try korganizer; the screenshots make me drool! > > Make sure you have qt-devel installed as well. > Did it, had it, there's something very strange going on: Make sure that qtcompat and qtext are installed as well. Ciao, Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2896077881025060261==-- From evargas9@hotmail.com Sat Apr 10 17:22:27 1999 From: evargas9@hotmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:22:27 -0700 Message-ID: <19990410172228.43576.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] How to use mouse> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4844163639473398985==" --===============4844163639473398985== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also have a 3 button mouse and found out that if you highlight what you want to copy then go to where ever your going to paste it, then click on the middle button. This has seemed to work for me. >From: speng >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com >Subject: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste" >Date: Sat, 09 Apr 1994 20:06:44 -0400 > > >Hi > >Does any one know how to do, so that I can use mouse to "COPY and >PASTE" like >in Unix X-window. I am using SuSE 6.0 and a 3-button mouse. > >Thanks a lot for your help >sean > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit <= A HREF=3D"http://www.msn.comhttp://www.msn.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4844163639473398985==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Apr 10 18:16:16 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PC World News: Windows 2000 'Harder Than We Thought' Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:16:16 -0400 Message-ID: <370F9570.A6299598@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1598859280986560508==" --===============1598859280986560508== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.pcworld.com/cg= i-bin/pcwtoday?ID=3D10438> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1598859280986560508==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Apr 10 18:26:55 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PC World News: Orwell's Legacy: Big Brother Awards Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:26:55 -0400 Message-ID: <370F97EF.432302DB@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0915460902241710146==" --===============0915460902241710146== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.pcworld.com/cg= i-bin/pcwtoday?ID=3D10441> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0915460902241710146==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Apr 10 19:06:38 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Concern raised over cable Net access Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:06:38 -0400 Message-ID: <370FA13E.CF3DECBD@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1463892579550941972==" --===============1463892579550941972== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another non-specific Linux article, but one worth reading, as some of us do h= ave cable modems. Fred _____________________ htt= p://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2239856,00.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1463892579550941972==-- From dproc@dol.net Sat Apr 10 19:10:31 1999 From: dproc@dol.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:10:31 -0400 Message-ID: <199904101910.PAA00536@swanage> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0846053720803543228==" --===============0846053720803543228== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > >> on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . =20 > =20 I haven't read the UNIX*98 standards, but although the consortium is all about selling proprietary Unix, doesn't it sound like a reasonable standard for at least one Linux* distribution to aim for. BTW I picked S.u.S.E. because of the nice manual, because I got 5 CDs including proprietary demos, with plenty of home and leisure software, because I thought I could use the on-line docs to help me learn German, and because the international CDs had US export encryption expunged (I want to keep my CDs when I leave the USA! Freud would have had something to say about me I am sure.) I had heard it was a technically sound distribution, it used the famous rpm package management, rather than the controversial debian one. I was pleasantly surprised to find that it uses the elegant SVR4 shadow passwords and boot concept. Also glad that I downloaded a source rpm built for RedHat, and it worked first time on S.u.S.E. 5.3.0-1 However, even if SuSE and Caldera progress closer to The Open Group UNIX standards, should not people feel free to distribute and use ready-made Linux distros with their own technical preferences, such as BSD-like or SVR3. Let us not forget the GNU Project which started all this - GNU also have some standards around what a system that is not UNIX should look like. =20 My bet is that SuSE will become a purer GNU distro, Caldera will get more stuff accredited as industry standard UNIX 95 or similar, and Red Hat will stick with their more BSD like structure to make it easier to support their novice user base. Let us keep the distro wars going for a while. =20 Some geniuses are still even able to manage common source trees for VMS*, Windows*, several flavors of UNIX and a couple of Linux flavours. To be hone= st I love them for it. dproc * VMS is a registered trademark of Digital Equipment Corporation UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group Windows is a registered trademark or trademark of Microsoft -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0846053720803543228==-- From roed@hem.utfors.se Sat Apr 10 19:17:07 1999 From: roed@hem.utfors.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SIGHUP ? Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:17:07 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0568743568359076797==" --===============0568743568359076797== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sometimes my ppp connection brakes down. :-( /var/log/messages =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D pppd[598]: Hangup (SIGHUP) pppd[598]: Modem hangup pppd[598]: Connection terminated. pppd[598]: Exit. pppd[609]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Is this something on my side ? In that case, what shall I look for ? - * Linux - ett stabilare s=C3=A4tt att leva * - - * Linux - a more stabile way to live * - -- Mvh Rolf Edlund Tel:070-3049194 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0568743568359076797==-- From roed@hem.utfors.se Sat Apr 10 19:21:45 1999 From: roed@hem.utfors.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:21:45 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3172117171334123570==" --===============3172117171334123570== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Michael Hasenstein wrote: > The reason it's not shipped is > ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/ww= w/qmail/dist.html> Sorry, but I can't find that URL. =20 > I know, there's even commercial software on the CD, but that's user > software, not system software. What's the difference ? ;-) - * Linux - ett stabilare s=C3=A4tt att leva * - - * Linux - a more stabile way to live * - -- Mvh Rolf Edlund Tel:070-3049194 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3172117171334123570==-- From dproc@dol.net Sat Apr 10 19:23:44 1999 From: dproc@dol.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:23:44 -0400 Message-ID: <199904101923.PAA00543@swanage> In-Reply-To: <000301be8262$a66b2c40$2b0d1280@kester> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7901077328302246461==" --===============7901077328302246461== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > From: "Kester Clegg" >=20 > I think very little, *but* it does miff me a bit when Yast overwrites > certain files (or rather, SuSEconfig does) everytime you run it; e.g. kdmrc, > ppp stuff... and there are many ocassions when running every update tool > (such as those for teTeX) is irratatingly slow. However, I do like the idea > of a central rc.config file with variables you can set which then run > scripts as you enter a particular run level. IMHO, this is a nice feature > once you get the hang of it. > k. A kludge to stop SuSEconfig trampling over your nice handcrafted suseppp configuration files, is to rename them to something that is not in the ISP database. So instead of generic.chat and generic.options I use dol.chat and dol.options. Therefore SuSEconfig complains each time it runs that there is no doldf entry, but it leaves well alone. Yes it still tampers with the generic.* files as it sees the need, but I don't use them so I am happy. For everything else I am glad that YaST and SuSEconfig take care of the hard work. BTW, I don't use kdmrc, but aren't you supposed to be able to put your customisations in susewmrc, or something like that? dproc -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7901077328302246461==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Sat Apr 10 19:23:50 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:23:50 -0400 Message-ID: <370FA546.40C4C1F8@connix.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7347683877878265321==" --===============7347683877878265321== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kester Clegg wrote: > I sympathise with this, I just cannot find the email program I want under > Linux - Pine is OK, but faffing about with endless docs about > sendmail/fetchmail etc is getting to be tedious and no URL 'click and > view' stuff is a nusiance... Yea.... I agree. Not only the above but the damm thing cant EVEN have any color! Talk about fu= c*^0 archaic Im about disgusted with the whole lot. Seems to me a little bit of color is taboo \at witts end rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7347683877878265321==-- From roed@hem.utfors.se Sat Apr 10 19:30:53 1999 From: roed@hem.utfors.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:30:53 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6870078465860272424==" --===============6870078465860272424== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > > Any plans for QMail ? >=20 > Nope - we were not allowed to put it on CD :( :-( sniff! )-: > But we'll have Postfix instead :) I have a look at it, as soon as I get my 6.1 box.. :-) Btw.. Is there anything I have to think of, when upgrading from 5.3 ? - * Linux - ett stabilare s=C3=A4tt att leva * - - * Linux - a more stabile way to live * - -- Mvh Rolf Edlund Tel:070-3049194 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6870078465860272424==-- From dproc@dol.net Sat Apr 10 19:41:47 1999 From: dproc@dol.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PPP Problems Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:41:47 -0400 Message-ID: <199904101941.PAA00548@swanage> In-Reply-To: <000101be8263$87362b80$0b00a8c0@pc001.baypc.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1094571362487920770==" --===============1094571362487920770== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > From: "Michael Doerner" >=20 > Hello, > I am trying to get my ISP connection running on a SuSE 5.3 based PC which I > have set up recently. > After doing all ISP related settings for suseppp, connecting the (external) > modem with minicom, I am struggling at the moment that I try to check my PPP > connection with the ppp-up script. >=20 > When the script wants to send +++ATZ to the modem, nothing happens there, > +++ATZ is only shown on the screen??? But I can do: echo +++ATZ > /dev/modem > and that time the modem shows the proper reaction!? > I also had a successful try with KPPP. >=20 Yes this is harder to find in the docs. Have you found out if your ISP uses PAP, CHAP or terminal server? If it is the traditional terminal server, it turns out that the chat script that suseppp gives you is *only an example* which you are supposed to customize to your needs. I cannot remember where this was in the docs, but now you know this, the place to go is man chat, and work out how to customize it. Good luck, it is not too hard.=20 dproc -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1094571362487920770==-- From chapmanb@u.washington.edu Sat Apr 10 19:52:20 1999 From: chapmanb@u.washington.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] 6.0, pcmcia and dhcp problems Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:52:20 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7285944985833161170==" --===============7285944985833161170== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm a new linux user, and I've finally been able to get most everything running properly, but I still can't get connected to my university's network. My card (3cc575BT) is recognized and I think properly configured,=20 (I get two high beeps at boot up) but when I try to connect with telnet,=20 I get a host name lookup failure. The network uses DHCP and the only=20 error I can see when booting is: cardmgr[67]: + ./network: /sbin/dhcpcd: no such file or directory Does anyone have any suggestions or help? =20 (I checked the SuSE support database, but I didn't see anything about it) Please reply to chapmanb(a)u.washington.edu Thanks! Brian Chapman -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7285944985833161170==-- From dproc@dol.net Sat Apr 10 19:55:06 1999 From: dproc@dol.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] About 2.2.5 kernel in SuSE 6.1 and Kppp problem. Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:55:06 -0400 Message-ID: <199904101955.PAA00549@swanage> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990409122953.031a3380@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2991494260363046366==" --===============2991494260363046366== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > From: "Mac Q. Flores IV" >=20 > Then there's the issue of why YaST needs to change permissions to kppp, > pppd and delete the resolv.conf file everytime you run it w/c results in a > "user" not being able to do dial-outs. Isn't this rather strange > considering that it is always impressed upon users not to run as "root" > except when necessary? User doesn't need to run as root, just be a member of the appropriate group. I think it is called "uucp" or "dialout". My trusted real users are in both as I don't know which one I need! They can run "suseppp/ppp-up" with no problem. diald is a different story. dproc -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2991494260363046366==-- From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Sat Apr 10 20:02:52 1999 From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] KPPP ? Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:02:52 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8129711944941550459==" --===============8129711944941550459== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All; I'm trying to get my Kppp set up. The daemon keeps dropping dead. On the log it says "Serial line is looped back.". Can anyone give me an idea what to look for? BTW I do NOT have "lock" in my options file. TIA! J I M ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany=20 hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ---------------------------------------------- Tired of "King Klinton I" & the Oral Office? Join the Libertarian Party! Check out www.lp.org -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8129711944941550459==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 10 20:08:41 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SIGHUP ? Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:08:41 -0500 Message-ID: <370FAFC9.6AB81562@navix.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9013442078792607249==" --===============9013442078792607249== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rolf Edlund wrote: >=20 > Sometimes my ppp connection brakes down. :-( >=20 > /var/log/messages > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > pppd[598]: Hangup (SIGHUP) > pppd[598]: Modem hangup > pppd[598]: Connection terminated. > pppd[598]: Exit. > pppd[609]: Hangup (SIGHUP) >=20 > Is this something on my side ? In that case, what shall I look for ? >=20 Not necessarily. ISP's sometimes have watchdog programs that look for connections that haven't had activity for a certain length of time. It will automatically hang up on those 'idle' connections, even if you don't consider yourself idling. ISP's that "overbook their modem ports use their watchdog alot. I recall reading about a setting somewhere that causes your pppd to send out a ping every so often, just to keep the dogs away, but I can't recall where it is at right now. Maybe another reader remembers. --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9013442078792607249==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 10 20:12:02 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] About 2.2.5 kernel in SuSE 6.1 and Kpppproblem. Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:12:02 -0500 Message-ID: <370FB092.7CB7096B@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <199904101955.PAA00549@swanage> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3150128949074517150==" --===============3150128949074517150== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dproc(a)dol.net wrote: >=20 > > From: "Mac Q. Flores IV" > > > > Then there's the issue of why YaST needs to change permissions to kppp, > > pppd and delete the resolv.conf file everytime you run it w/c results in a > > "user" not being able to do dial-outs. Isn't this rather strange > > considering that it is always impressed upon users not to run as "root" > > except when necessary? >=20 > User doesn't need to run as root, just be a member of the appropriate group. > I think it is called "uucp" or "dialout". My trusted real users are in both > as I don't know which one I need! They can run "suseppp/ppp-up" with no > problem. >=20 > diald is a different story. >=20 > dproc >=20 Don't forget the /etc/permissions file which contains the settings YaST consults everytime it closes down. If you want YaST to set a file to a specific permission then set it in the permissions file. --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3150128949074517150==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 10 20:19:24 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:19:24 -0500 Message-ID: <370FB24C.AEDF0067@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <199904101910.PAA00536@swanage> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5361376563195803424==" --===============5361376563195803424== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dproc(a)dol.net wrote: >=20 > > > > >> on things like directory structures, library locations, etc. . > > >=20 > I haven't read the UNIX*98 standards, but although the consortium is all ab= out > selling proprietary Unix, doesn't it sound like a reasonable standard for at > least one Linux* distribution to aim for. >=20 > BTW I picked S.u.S.E. because of the nice manual, because I got 5 CDs > including proprietary demos, with plenty of home and leisure software, beca= use > I thought I could use the on-line docs to help me learn German, and because > the international CDs had US export encryption expunged (I want to keep my = CDs > when I leave the USA! Freud would have had something to say about me I am > sure.) >=20 > I had heard it was a technically sound distribution, it used the famous rpm > package management, rather than the controversial debian one. I was > pleasantly surprised to find that it uses the elegant SVR4 shadow passwords > and boot concept. Also glad that I downloaded a source rpm built for RedHa= t, > and it worked first time on S.u.S.E. 5.3.0-1 >=20 > However, even if SuSE and Caldera progress closer to The Open Group UNIX > standards, should not people feel free to distribute and use ready-made Lin= ux > distros with their own technical preferences, such as BSD-like or SVR3. >=20 > Let us not forget the GNU Project which started all this - GNU also have so= me > standards around what a system that is not UNIX should look like. >=20 > My bet is that SuSE will become a purer GNU distro, Calde= ra > will get more stuff accredited as industry standard UNIX 95 or similar, and > Red Hat will stick with their more BSD like structure to make it easier to > support their novice user base. >=20 > Let us keep the distro wars going for a while. I agree. Healthy competition is always good for the consumer.=20 Developing and adopting a good directory structure standard won't stifle competition and will give commerical and GNU developers stable targets to shoot at. If a distro wants to be distinct let them take a clue from SuSE and market a well engineered and debuged product. I would rather wait awhile for the pesticides to work than have a release meet an arbritary delivery date. =20 > Some geniuses are still even able to manage common source trees for VMS*, > Windows*, several flavors of UNIX and a couple of Linux flavours. To be ho= nest > I love them for it. >=20 > dproc >=20 --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5361376563195803424==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Sat Apr 10 20:33:46 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] g++ ... or what's the problem here? Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:33:46 -0400 Message-ID: <370FB5AA.2EFB6E16@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <000001be8352$bc1c97e0$0b00a8c0@pc001.baypc.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1588738641345695356==" --===============1588738641345695356== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Doerner wrote: > Thanks a lot for your help. > > Progress with both now: with g++ (gpp as I just learned) and a successful > wvdial make and also with the SuSE scripts!! > As you show on your web site what to put in /etc/suseppp/generic.options ... > that made the progress there! Glad it helped > My script (generated by YAST) contained 4 > blank lines before the 'name' line. I filled these lines now with parameters > (/dev/modem, 19200, crtscts, lock) and since that time, the 'ppp-up' script > runs! yea old yast dosnt seem to be too smart I wasted several days tweeking what y= ast done. and it continues to bawlk.. "You have modified resolv.conf leaving it untouched you can my my version...b= la bla" "you have modified generic.dialed leaving it untouched you can my my version...bla bla" "you have modified generic.options leaving it untouched you can my my version...bla bla" " you have modified generic.chat leaving it untouched you can my my version...bla bla" add naseum ...bla bla yasts generated config files are BRAIN DEAD!!!! It better not nouch my files = of Ill give it a SMAK! > > Since you had already the information on your site I assume, there were > quite a few others before with the same problem? you bet > What is wrong there with > YAST, generating the improper generic.options file? (This should be more a > question for SuSE but I guess they don't care. They will be busy working on > version 6.1 rather than looking into this). You my friend, absolutly hit it rite on the head with that comment. Im sure there will be a new kernal coming rite before the realease so this group can = has something to talk about why dosnt this thing compile what F%$*ing libraries do I have to download soas to make my p400 with 256 ra= m a little faster oh ... yea and where do I get them??? the url dosnt work- or the files have later dates than the ones on my system why is this not compatible with that and the endless undocumented "fun things" one encounters when trying to simply install a pc of software --->as you so elequontly found out while trying to install a 90k file!!! So now linux with kde and netscape one has to have at least a p200 with buko ram.Gone seem the days with a mere p90 with 32 ram could run a decent, 1/2 way attractive, useful mail program and a browser. so the answer is... get this... run netscape 3!! which is now 3 years old. so logically i take that to mean todays os can /should run 3yr old browsers!! Oh yea thats progress oh... least I forget- one can browse the web with the ever popular, ever evolving, low budget lynx [now thats FUN] not oh well lets roll out the next distro.crank out another kernel. lets keep everyone juggling!!! lets look ahead.... hey those people are using linux they *should* be able to figgure it out! at least Im using 5.3 and plan to untill what I think is a useful distro is realeased The best thing Ive seen from Germany latly is Rammstein ht= tp://www.rammstein.de> DU HAST! rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1588738641345695356==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Sat Apr 10 21:07:54 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] To hell with Netscape Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:07:54 -0400 Message-ID: <370FBDA9.CA4B6301@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <370FA546.40C4C1F8@connix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6537407934394519466==" --===============6537407934394519466== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dizzy wrote: > Kester Clegg wrote: > > > I sympathise with this, I just cannot find the email program I want under > > Linux - Pine is OK, but faffing about with endless docs about > > sendmail/fetchmail etc is getting to be tedious and no URL 'click and > > view' stuff is a nusiance... Actually to be a bit proactive here... to use pine... you really dont need to mess around with sendmail fetchmail is relitively trivial to setup and implement [trust me] my page has= the exact how to... set up and run fetchmail with suse you can either run it in d= aemon mode fetchmail -d 300 or even simplier fetchmail [I prefer the latter] if you need help with that mail me IMO black and white pine is LUDICRIST!!! no damm excuse about purity or any o= ther garbage! Ive also mailed the pine list about color and guess what? *nothing* [surprise= !] btw... my page also has the exact howto setup and run procmail again relitive= ly trivial thats no biggie and more importantly... no surprises rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6537407934394519466==-- From roed@hem.utfors.se Sat Apr 10 21:40:23 1999 From: roed@hem.utfors.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SIGHUP ? Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:40:23 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370FAFC9.6AB81562@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7967701874181656384==" --===============7967701874181656384== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > > Is this something on my side ? In that case, what shall I look for ? > >=20 >=20 > Not necessarily. ISP's sometimes have watchdog programs that look for > connections that haven't had activity for a certain length of time. Yup! But I don't think it's that in my case ? Since this SIGHUP's sometimes come, only 1 minute after I get my IP-adress from my ISP. - * Linux - ett stabilare s=C3=A4tt att leva * - - * Linux - a more stabile way to live * - -- Mvh Rolf Edlund Tel:070-3049194 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7967701874181656384==-- From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 10 21:56:06 1999 From: richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: Star Office...oops, installed as root Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:56:06 +0100 Message-ID: <99041022585300.00282@charlie> In-Reply-To: <19990410190534.A272@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9014217999158535024==" --===============9014217999158535024== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi What directories under root did you install SO5? Did you install in /opt or = in root? I take it that you installed the 2mb or so under each users home directory as per SO5 default setting? Thanks Rich On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Stefan Troeger wrote: >Hi, > >On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 10:12 -0500, Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote: > >> I installed it in both my user account and my wifes, and registered it >> separately for both installs under both our names and it works fine like >> this..takes up twice the space, but with HD's being cheap..it was not a >> worry for me. > >You can also do a multi user install to save HD space. First >install SO as root using `setup /net'. Then install it for every >user with `setup' and choose workstation install. This way SO >needs only 2 additional MB for every user. > >Ciao, > Stefan >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- Emailed via a SuSE Linux system richard.booth(a)bigfoot.com www.mieussy.freeserve.co.uk -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9014217999158535024==-- From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 10 22:17:20 1999 From: richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Mix up with Outgoing email and system mail messages..? Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:17:20 +0100 Message-ID: <99041023220200.00208@charlie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7540751751411706622==" --===============7540751751411706622== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all I was sending a mail to SuSE tech support which I did thro' Kmail. After sending I received a system mail which I read in Pine that gave the message below....any ideas? Normally email works fine. Thanks Rich Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:14:31 +0100 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: root(a)charlie.rak Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Parts/Attachments: 1 Shown 11 lines Text 2 Shown 361 bytes Message, "Delivery Status" 3 Shown 16 KB Message, "Re: (CD error)" 3.1 Shown 321 lines Text ---------------------------------------- The original message was received at Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:14:23 +0100 from localhost [[UNIX: localhost]] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- Joachim.Gleissner(a)suse.de ----- Transcript of session follows ----- .... while talking to mail.suse.de.: =20 >>> DATA <<< 550 rejected: cannot route to sender 554 Joachim.Gleissner(a)suse.de... Service unavailable [ Part 2: "Delivery Status" ] Reporting-MTA: dns; charlie.rak Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost Arrival-Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:14:23 +0100 Final-Recipient: RFC822; Joachim.Gleissner(a)suse.de Action: failed Status: 5.2.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.suse.de Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 rejected: cannot route to sender Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:14:31 +0100 [ Part 3: "Included Message" ] Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:47:52 +0100 From: Richard Booth To: Joachim Gleissner Subject: Re: (CD error) Hi Joachim Thanks for your email...... = =20 =20 -- Emailed via a SuSE Linux system richard.booth(a)bigfoot.com www.mieussy.freeserve.co.uk -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7540751751411706622==-- From michael.doerner@clear.net.nz Sat Apr 10 23:47:32 1999 From: michael.doerner@clear.net.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] time zone question Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:47:32 +1200 Message-ID: <000001be83ac$8063f2c0$0b00a8c0@pc001.baypc.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9163982281868761425==" --===============9163982281868761425== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That looks like a silly question ... but it is still a problem here (SuSE 5.3): We are on Standard time here in New Zealand at the moment, Daylight saving has finished a while ago. The PC's RTC is set to the current local time. Example (it's just 11:30 this morning): I start Linux and after logging in (as root) I ask the current time by 'date' command and it will tell me it is 10:30, therefore 1 hour behind. I then check the time setting/time zone with YAST which shows me the proper time zone (Auckland/Pacific). On the next screen YAST will ask me about the adjustment of hardware clock, whether the system time is set to GMT (which is always highlighted as the default) or Local Time. I will select 'Local Time'. YAST then informs me that timezone was activated. It will be active after next booting and with the next screen YAST launches Suseconfig. After suseconfig I leave YAST, check my time with 'date' command ... and it is fine, like 11:30 (+) now. BUT, after the next rebooting the time is gone back an hour again and I will have to start the whole story again which I can't believe to be the proper way. Any idea who is doing wrong here, Linux or me? (OK, it must be me, but WHAT am I doing wrong?) Regards, Michael Doerner -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9163982281868761425==-- From budr@sirinet.net Sun Apr 11 00:45:47 1999 From: budr@sirinet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] time zone question Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:45:47 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000001be83ac$8063f2c0$0b00a8c0@pc001.baypc.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7170494899493824637==" --===============7170494899493824637== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Michael Doerner" writes: > BUT, after the next rebooting the time is gone back an hour again and I will > have to start the whole story again which I can't believe to be the proper > way. Sounds like your CMOS clock has gotten set back an hour. You are resetting=20 the system clock in linux, but the CMOS clock is still an hour off. The clock command checks and sets the CMOS clock. Man clock for details. #clock -r to read the CMOS clock. I'll bet it's an hour off. Get your system clock set right, as you have been doing, then as root, #clock -w to write correct system time to the CMOS clock. =20 You might want to do clock -r again just to be sure it worked. Then next time you reboot, your time should be right. --=20 Bud Rogers http://www.sirine= t.net/~budr/zamm.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7170494899493824637==-- From dproc@dol.net Sun Apr 11 00:47:26 1999 From: dproc@dol.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste" Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:47:26 -0400 Message-ID: <199904110047.UAA01657@swanage> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1679704877886582405==" --===============1679704877886582405== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:20:32 -0400 (EDT) > From: Ewan Dunbar > On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, speng wrote: > > Does any one know how to do, so that I can use mouse to "COPY and > > PASTE" like > > in Unix X-window. I am using SuSE 6.0 and a 3-button mouse. >=20 > Umm... are you talking about when you are *in* X? Since you seem to know > about this, do it just like you did in "Unix X-window". If you're talking > about on the console, then make sure you have gpm installed and running, > then RTFM. I guess that speng really means - "how do I paste from one X Window to another?" It is easy to do *within* an xterm or within an emacs frame. But how do I paste from rmail into lynx? Surely the answer to that depends on the clipboard server that is running - which is distribution dependent, isn't it? CDE has one style of clipboard. On my SuSE Fvwm95 there is no clipboard as standard AFAIK. So I don't think there is any way my mouse can work like it would in CDE. Clipboard servers are included in KDE and in GNOME (it is reputed.) I understand that all work differently. But does anyone have a recommendation as to what is easily installed from YaST and is widely supported by applications? Then I will install it and try it. In conclusion I should confess that I don't really care what speng's question was, the blame for the above question is entirely my own. dproc -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1679704877886582405==-- From dproc@dol.net Sun Apr 11 01:06:07 1999 From: dproc@dol.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Epson Color 800 under SuSE 6.0 ? Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:06:07 -0400 Message-ID: <199904110106.VAA02031@swanage.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199904100511.VAA00772@wdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1608934075433510945==" --===============1608934075433510945== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > From: "W.D.McKinney" > Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:11:10 -0800 (AKDT) >=20 > Well I'm giving up on my new HP 695C printer, but how about > if I trade with my wife for her Epson 800, will it work ? Well I have an Epson Stylus Color 600. I understand that is has a similar command set to the 800. I have SuSE 5.3 and it works beautifully, though not with quite all the options the Windows driver gives. I think ghostscript is a wonderful tool -- thank you aladdin. dproc -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1608934075433510945==-- From phil@servcom.com Sun Apr 11 01:33:42 1999 From: phil@servcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] more on ppp SIGHUP Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:33:42 -0800 Message-ID: <370FFBF6.13DE1CE0@servcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3110169602915604965==" --===============3110169602915604965== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was reading personal mail from work when I noticed that someone else was having problems with SIGHUPs during ppp sessions. I am convinced that these represent being hung up upon by my ISP. My ISP swears up and down that I am terminating the connection, and that the problem is that I do not have a v.90 modem... I remain unconvinced; 9 of every 10 disconnections are from the remote end. Sometimes I can maintain a ppp connection for more than 12 hours, but I've had the connection terminated in less than 1 minute, so this problem is getting on toward making me think about a change ISPs. I'd welcome expert (or other) opinion, in case I really do need to fix something, so following are quotes from /var/log/messages -- I've left debug on. I interperet this as being hung up upon:=20 [...] Apr 10 07:48:43 deepthought pppd[9736]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=3D0x1 f1 00 64 5a] Apr 10 07:48:43 deepthought pppd[9736]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=3D0x1 1b 6d 2e ed] Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Modem hangup Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Connection terminated. Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Exit. Apr 10 07:50:49 deepthought kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistered [...] Here's an example of me terminating a ppp session by running my ppp-down script. [...] Apr 8 21:10:45 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=3D0x1 b1 b9 b5 75] Apr 8 21:11:15 deepthought pppd[6564]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=3D0x1 fd e3 b0 12] Apr 8 21:11:15 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=3D0x1 b1 b9 b5 75] Apr 8 21:11:46 deepthought pppd[6564]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=3D0x1 03] Apr 8 21:11:46 deepthought pppd[6564]: LCP terminated at peer's request Apr 8 21:11:46 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP TermAck id=3D0x1] Apr 8 21:11:47 deepthought pppd[6564]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=3D0x2 03] Apr 8 21:11:47 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP TermAck id=3D0x2] Apr 8 21:11:49 deepthought pppd[6564]: Connection terminated. Apr 8 21:11:49 deepthought pppd[6564]: Exit. Apr 8 21:13:21 deepthought kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistered [...] During any ppp session LPC EchoReq and LCP EchoRep are exchanged about every 30 seconds. The final exchange of these Rep and Req sequences before a remote hangup is *always* a sent LCP EchoRep that is not responded to inside the usual 30 seconds or so. Thanks for any ideas, phil --=20 Boettcher's Attribution: If you have a bunch of clowns, you're going to have a circus. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3110169602915604965==-- From dproc@dol.net Sun Apr 11 02:00:31 1999 From: dproc@dol.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] time zone question Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:00:31 -0400 Message-ID: <199904110200.WAA02725@swanage.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <000001be83ac$8063f2c0$0b00a8c0@pc001.baypc.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2869367109911886040==" --===============2869367109911886040== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > From: "Michael Doerner" > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:47:32 +1200 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > Importance: Normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 > Sender: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > X-Mailinglist: suse-linux-e > Precedence: bulk >=20 >=20 > That looks like a silly question ... but it is still a problem here (SuSE > 5.3): >=20 > We are on Standard time here in New Zealand at the moment, Daylight saving > has finished a while ago. > The PC's RTC is set to the current local time. > Example (it's just 11:30 this morning): > I start Linux and after logging in (as root) I ask the current time by > 'date' command and it will tell me it is 10:30, therefore 1 hour behind. > I then check the time setting/time zone with YAST which shows me the proper > time zone (Auckland/Pacific). On the next screen YAST will ask me about the > adjustment of hardware clock, whether the system time is set to GMT (which > is always highlighted as the default) or Local Time. > I will select 'Local Time'. YAST then informs me that timezone was > activated. It will be active after next booting and with the next screen > YAST launches Suseconfig. > After suseconfig I leave YAST, check my time with 'date' command ... and it > is fine, like 11:30 (+) now. > BUT, after the next rebooting the time is gone back an hour again and I will > have to start the whole story again which I can't believe to be the proper > way. >=20 > Any idea who is doing wrong here, Linux or me? (OK, it must be me, but WHAT > am I doing wrong?) >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Michael Doerner >=20 We just switched to DST in the US this week and I asked myself the same question. There is a great explanation in the SAG (on your CD somewhere under LDP) . However the answer is reboot your machine, go into BIOS setup, (or DOS) and change your hardware clock to the new local time. You will have to do it again when DST starts. This fixed it for me last night - thank you Lars! As well as some troubleshooting tips, there is a cleaner alternative in the SAG which will avoid you doing this in future, if you don't use Windows or OS/2 on the same platform. Regards, dproc -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2869367109911886040==-- From deem@wdm.com Sun Apr 11 02:27:35 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] more on ppp SIGHUP Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:27:35 -0800 Message-ID: <199904110227.SAA03947@wdm.com> In-Reply-To: <370FFBF6.13DE1CE0@servcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0184500397885888471==" --===============0184500397885888471== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having a different ISP yet living in the same city, I also experience the sam= e=20 problem here, good sustained connection for 12hrs sometimes, but disconnectio= ns every 1-10 minutes other times. my ISP, also says it is on my end, wet pairs = or a V.90 incompatibility, which IMHO is lot air to say I don't have a good answ= er. This is a ditto for Phill's e-mail. -Dee phillip mannie wrote: >=20 > I was reading personal mail from work when I noticed that someone else > was having problems with SIGHUPs during ppp sessions. I am convinced > that these represent being hung up upon by my ISP. My ISP swears up and > down that I am terminating the connection, and that the problem is that > I do not have a v.90 modem... I remain unconvinced; 9 of every 10 > disconnections are from the remote end. >=20 > Sometimes I can maintain a ppp connection for more than 12 hours, but > I've had the connection terminated in less than 1 minute, so this > problem is getting on toward making me think about a change ISPs. I'd > welcome expert (or other) opinion, in case I really do need to fix > something, so following are quotes from /var/log/messages -- I've left > debug on. >=20 > I interperet this as being hung up upon:=20 >=20 > [...] > Apr 10 07:48:43 deepthought pppd[9736]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=3D0x1 f1 00 > 64 5a] > Apr 10 07:48:43 deepthought pppd[9736]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=3D0x1 1b 6d > 2e ed] > Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Hangup (SIGHUP) > Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Modem hangup > Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Connection terminated. > Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Exit. > Apr 10 07:50:49 deepthought kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline > successfully unregistered > [...] >=20 > Here's an example of me terminating a ppp session by running my ppp-down > script. >=20 > [...] > Apr 8 21:10:45 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=3D0x1 b1 b9 > b5 75] > Apr 8 21:11:15 deepthought pppd[6564]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=3D0x1 fd e3 > b0 12] > Apr 8 21:11:15 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=3D0x1 b1 b9 > b5 75] > Apr 8 21:11:46 deepthought pppd[6564]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=3D0x1 03] > Apr 8 21:11:46 deepthought pppd[6564]: LCP terminated at peer's request > Apr 8 21:11:46 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP TermAck id=3D0x1] > Apr 8 21:11:47 deepthought pppd[6564]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=3D0x2 03] > Apr 8 21:11:47 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP TermAck id=3D0x2] > Apr 8 21:11:49 deepthought pppd[6564]: Connection terminated. > Apr 8 21:11:49 deepthought pppd[6564]: Exit. > Apr 8 21:13:21 deepthought kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline > successfully unregistered > [...] >=20 > During any ppp session LPC EchoReq and LCP EchoRep are exchanged about > every 30 seconds. The final exchange of these Rep and Req sequences > before a remote hangup is *always* a sent LCP EchoRep that is not > responded to inside the usual 30 seconds or so. >=20 > Thanks for any ideas, > phil > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> W.D.McKinney (Dee) deem(a)wdm.com Vision & Passion are keys to success. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0184500397885888471==-- From espiritudelvino@hotmail.com Sun Apr 11 02:49:06 1999 From: espiritudelvino@hotmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Directory Alias Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:49:06 -0500 Message-ID: <19990411024907.31957.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Directory Alias> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3929948523045501518==" --===============3929948523045501518== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Seems like I read somewhere that you can set one directory to point=20 >to another... I've looked high and low today but can't find the=20 >command to do that. Can anyone please enlighten me?=20 the command is 'ln' to link 2 directories, do something like ln -s the '-s' option creates a symbolic link instead of a hard link. you should type 'man ln' to see all options available for this=20 command... Raul Beltran Mexico City. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3929948523045501518==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 11 03:06:57 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] more on ppp SIGHUP Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:06:57 -0500 Message-ID: <371011D1.9A676BA5@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <370FFBF6.13DE1CE0@servcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3188344855897973167==" --===============3188344855897973167== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable phillip mannie wrote: >=20 > I was reading personal mail from work when I noticed that someone else > was having problems with SIGHUPs during ppp sessions. I am convinced > that these represent being hung up upon by my ISP. My ISP swears up and > down that I am terminating the connection, and that the problem is that > I do not have a v.90 modem... I remain unconvinced; 9 of every 10 > disconnections are from the remote end. >=20 > Sometimes I can maintain a ppp connection for more than 12 hours, but > I've had the connection terminated in less than 1 minute, so this > problem is getting on toward making me think about a change ISPs. I'd > welcome expert (or other) opinion, in case I really do need to fix > something, so following are quotes from /var/log/messages -- I've left > debug on. >=20 > I interperet this as being hung up upon: >=20 > [...] > Apr 10 07:48:43 deepthought pppd[9736]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=3D0x1 f1 00 > 64 5a] > Apr 10 07:48:43 deepthought pppd[9736]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=3D0x1 1b 6d > 2e ed] > Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Hangup (SIGHUP) > Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Modem hangup > Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Connection terminated. > Apr 10 07:49:02 deepthought pppd[9736]: Exit. > Apr 10 07:50:49 deepthought kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline > successfully unregistered > [...] >=20 > Here's an example of me terminating a ppp session by running my ppp-down > script. >=20 > [...] > Apr 8 21:10:45 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=3D0x1 b1 b9 > b5 75] > Apr 8 21:11:15 deepthought pppd[6564]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=3D0x1 fd e3 > b0 12] > Apr 8 21:11:15 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=3D0x1 b1 b9 > b5 75] > Apr 8 21:11:46 deepthought pppd[6564]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=3D0x1 03] > Apr 8 21:11:46 deepthought pppd[6564]: LCP terminated at peer's request > Apr 8 21:11:46 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP TermAck id=3D0x1] > Apr 8 21:11:47 deepthought pppd[6564]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=3D0x2 03] > Apr 8 21:11:47 deepthought pppd[6564]: sent [LCP TermAck id=3D0x2] > Apr 8 21:11:49 deepthought pppd[6564]: Connection terminated. > Apr 8 21:11:49 deepthought pppd[6564]: Exit. > Apr 8 21:13:21 deepthought kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline > successfully unregistered > [...] >=20 > During any ppp session LPC EchoReq and LCP EchoRep are exchanged about > every 30 seconds. The final exchange of these Rep and Req sequences > before a remote hangup is *always* a sent LCP EchoRep that is not > responded to inside the usual 30 seconds or so. >=20 > Thanks for any ideas, Looks like your logs contain the "smoking gun" proof that your ISP is hanging up on you. I had one that did that to me also, and he used the same excuses on me. I set my pinger to pinging every minute or so (ping -i 1200 myisp.com) and that slowed him down a bit, but I later changed to another ISP and have had NO "accidental" hangups. --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3188344855897973167==-- From hmf@softhome.net Sun Apr 11 03:48:19 1999 From: hmf@softhome.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] whir, whir, whirrrr Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:48:19 -0500 Message-ID: <199904110255.TAA14507@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8449395757031345536==" --===============8449395757031345536== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey all Well, by following my isp's advice, and using wvdial, I can actually connect = with Linux (yee haw). Problems: I'm not sure how to setup XFmail. Plus, running the Netscape 4.5 = (off the cd) is a pain.. any action I=20 take is followed by my hd spinning its head off, with no other results. I wo= und up killing x to escape. sounded like=20 a lawn mower. can I fix that? -tf -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8449395757031345536==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sun Apr 11 03:59:17 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCMCIA NIC's Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 05:59:17 +0200 Message-ID: <37101E15.EA29945@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <199904101446.HAA15806@hpcvsjpg.cv.hp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7429491022131311380==" --===============7429491022131311380== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "John P. Griffin" wrote: >=20 > Hey gang, >=20 > Looking for a list of currently supported, from within linuxrc, PCMCIA NIC's > for SuSE 5.3. Is there such a list and where is it? Don't know. But I would start with the suse cdb and the PCMCIA-HOWTO. The Howto is in http://metalab.unc.ed= u/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/> or http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/= Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/> . The howto contains lots of usefull links. I think, you should be able to find something this way. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7429491022131311380==-- From reaston@stny.rr.com Sun Apr 11 04:00:40 1999 From: reaston@stny.rr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] time zone question Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:00:40 -0400 Message-ID: <19990411040339.AAA7357@mail3.stny.rr.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1571482427653456836==" --===============1571482427653456836== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10 Apr 99, at 19:45, Bud Rogers wrote: >=20 > "Michael Doerner" writes: >=20 > > BUT, after the next rebooting the time is gone back an hour again and I > > will have to start the whole story again which I can't believe to be the > > proper way. >=20 > Sounds like your CMOS clock has gotten set back an hour. You are > resetting the system clock in linux, but the CMOS clock is still an hour > off. The clock command checks and sets the CMOS clock. Man clock for > details. >=20 > #clock -r to read the CMOS clock. I'll bet it's an hour off. >=20 > Get your system clock set right, as you have been doing, then as root, >=20 > #clock -w to write correct system time to the CMOS clock. =20 >=20 > You might want to do clock -r again just to be sure it worked. Then next > time you reboot, your time should be right. >=20 >=20 I have experienced the exact same problem. The questions is,=20 isn't Yast or SuseConfig doing something wrong here? If the=20 solution is to do a "clock -w", shouldn't Yast/suseconfig be=20 doing this as part of the standard procedure? Yast is, after=20 all, referring to the hardware clock itself in it's dialog and=20 implying that it will take care of it. Perhaps this was fixed=20 in 6.0 (which I still haven't gotten to yet...)? =20 -Bob -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1571482427653456836==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sun Apr 11 04:05:58 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste" Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 06:05:58 +0200 Message-ID: <37101FA6.7DF3FC19@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6957980368791369522==" --===============6957980368791369522== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote: >=20 > 1. Edit your /etc/XF86Config >=20 > 2. Navigate to your "Pointer" section. >=20 > 3. Add the item "Emulate3Buttons" (no quotes) >=20 > 4. Restart X As he has a 3-Button mouse this is _not_ necessary. This option is intended for 2-button mice. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6957980368791369522==-- From robertc@mindspring.com Sun Apr 11 04:17:07 1999 From: robertc@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Directory Alias Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:17:07 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7641005984342381353==" --===============7641005984342381353== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seems like I read somewhere that you can set one directory to point to another... I've looked high and low today but can't find the command to do that. Can anyone please enlighten me?=20 Tnx, Robert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7641005984342381353==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sun Apr 11 04:47:32 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ICQ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:47:32 -0400 Message-ID: <37102964.D6958F3D@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3056162869301851924==" --===============3056162869301851924== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hadn't noticed it posted here, but the java version of ICQ runs GREAT! It's the only version that I know of that will run on Linux...there isn't another = ICQ app. that will work (far as I know)...the KDE ICQ is obviously in dev. You do have to edit the install script, but just 1 line. Fred -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3056162869301851924==-- From tux@datapro.co.za Sun Apr 11 05:56:28 1999 From: tux@datapro.co.za To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Symbolic links vs. hard link Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 07:56:28 +0200 Message-ID: <19990411075628.A926@datapro.co.za> In-Reply-To: <19990411024907.31957.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7347458633154839656==" --===============7347458633154839656== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 09:49:06PM -0500, Raul Beltran wrote: > ln -s >=20 > the '-s' option creates a symbolic link instead of a hard link. I've often wondered just what is meant by 'symbolic link' and 'hard link'. The man page for ln mentions, but doesn't explain them. Can someone explain the difference or point me to some docs that do explain the difference. --=20 Steve Crane stevec(a)netlane.com http://www.datapro.co.za/~stevec> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7347458633154839656==-- From cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl Sun Apr 11 06:16:03 1999 From: cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:16:03 +0200 Message-ID: <19990411081603.A24961@griend.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2744267085073244757==" --===============2744267085073244757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 06:34:02PM +0200, Michael Hasenstein wrote: > On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Cees van de Griend wrote: > > I prefer Qmail also... >=20 > The reason it's not shipped is > ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/ww= w/qmail/dist.html> >=20 > I know, there's even commercial software on the CD, but that's user > software, not system software. I looked at that page. So what's the problem? It said nowhere that you are not allowed to make a .rpm of it. You only have to keep the files in the 'qmail-standard' directories, i.e. under /var/qmail. I know that's not the standard, but the author=20 insists (I must admit rather strongly) on it. So once again, what's the problem?=20 You can find pre-compiled .rpm's on <http://www.qmail.org/>>.=20 You (SuSE) only have to include them on the CD and let the user decide=20 what he/she finds more important, security and quick delivery or=20 installing in the so called 'standard' directories. Greetings, Cees. --=20 DujDaj HubtaHvIS Hegh 'e' tul Hoch tlhIngan. To die defending his ship is the hope of every Klingon. Mark Okrand, "Star Trek: The Klingon Way - A Warrier's Guide" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2744267085073244757==-- From cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl Sun Apr 11 06:23:25 1999 From: cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Symbolic links vs. hard link Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:23:25 +0200 Message-ID: <19990411082325.B24961@griend.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <19990411075628.A926@datapro.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0531961910663437820==" --===============0531961910663437820== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 07:56:28AM +0200, Steve Crane wrote: >> ln -s >>=20 >> the '-s' option creates a symbolic link instead of a hard link. >=20 > I've often wondered just what is meant by 'symbolic link' and 'hard > link'. The man page for ln mentions, but doesn't explain them. Can > someone explain the difference or point me to some docs that do explain > the difference. Without being technical: A hard link can't be seen different from the orginal file. They point to=20 the same data. If File A is deleted, File B still points to the data. File A --> data <-- File B A soft link points to the original entry. If File A is deleted, the link from File B is broken. File B --> File A --> data. I hope this makes it a little bit clearer. Cees. --=20 bIjatlh 'e' yImev. yItlhutlh! Stop talking! Drink! Mark Okrand, "Star Trek: The Klingon Way - A Warrier's Guide" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0531961910663437820==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 11 06:28:00 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] time zone question Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:28:00 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990411040339.AAA7357@mail3.stny.rr.com@machina.stny.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7571689863099564045==" --===============7571689863099564045== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here the system changed the time but I just noticed after a rather long time between reboots that with the reboot the time had reset itself back. My laptop never changed and its the same setup. It seems that linux should be able to manage PST8PDT correctly. How does one manage it so that the clock command never has to be used? I have the correct value in rc.config but the cmos clock is not changed after the next reboot. Thanks. Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Bob Easton wrote: >=20 > On 10 Apr 99, at 19:45, Bud Rogers wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > "Michael Doerner" writes: > >=20 > > > BUT, after the next rebooting the time is gone back an hour again and I > > > will have to start the whole story again which I can't believe to be the > > > proper way. > >=20 > > Sounds like your CMOS clock has gotten set back an hour. You are > > resetting the system clock in linux, but the CMOS clock is still an hour > > off. The clock command checks and sets the CMOS clock. Man clock for > > details. > >=20 > > #clock -r to read the CMOS clock. I'll bet it's an hour off. > >=20 > > Get your system clock set right, as you have been doing, then as root, > >=20 > > #clock -w to write correct system time to the CMOS clock. =20 > >=20 > > You might want to do clock -r again just to be sure it worked. Then next > > time you reboot, your time should be right. > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > I have experienced the exact same problem. The questions is,=20 > isn't Yast or SuseConfig doing something wrong here? If the=20 > solution is to do a "clock -w", shouldn't Yast/suseconfig be=20 > doing this as part of the standard procedure? Yast is, after=20 > all, referring to the hardware clock itself in it's dialog and=20 > implying that it will take care of it. Perhaps this was fixed=20 > in 6.0 (which I still haven't gotten to yet...)? =20 > -Bob > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7571689863099564045==-- From graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 11 07:22:58 1999 From: graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use mouse "Copy and Paste" Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 07:22:58 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904110047.UAA01657@swanage> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4897544515433422597==" --===============4897544515433422597== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dproc(a)dol.net writes: > I guess that speng really means - "how do I paste from one X Window to > another?" It is easy to do *within* an xterm or within an emacs frame. But > how do I paste from rmail into lynx? >=20 > Surely the answer to that depends on the clipboard server that is running - > which is distribution dependent, isn't it? I think that this is standard X. You select to copy, and press the middle mouse button (or the chord which emulates this on a 2-button mouse) to paste. This works across applications. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4897544515433422597==-- From graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 11 07:52:29 1999 From: graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ICQ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 07:52:29 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37102964.D6958F3D@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0955901289480585318==" --===============0955901289480585318== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Fred A. Miller" writes: > I hadn't noticed it posted here, but the java version of ICQ runs GREAT! I= t's > the only version that I know of that will run on Linux...there isn't anothe= r ICQ > app. that will work (far as I know)...the KDE ICQ is obviously in dev. You= do > have to edit the install script, but just 1 line. The java ICQ is *not* the only ICQ which works on Linux. Licq works perfectly well and is designed for Linux. If you look at Freshmeat you will find other ICQ programs as well. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0955901289480585318==-- From graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 11 07:55:53 1999 From: graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] time zone question Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 07:55:53 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000001be83ac$8063f2c0$0b00a8c0@pc001.baypc.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1552646010401486231==" --===============1552646010401486231== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Michael Doerner" writes: > We are on Standard time here in New Zealand at the moment, Daylight > saving has finished a while ago. The PC's RTC is set to the current > local time. Example (it's just 11:30 this morning): That I think is your problem. The normal way of handling timezones on Lunux is to set the CMOS clock to UTC (GMT) and tell the system what timezone you are in, so that it displays it correctly -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1552646010401486231==-- From mha@suse.de Sun Apr 11 09:19:28 1999 From: mha@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:19:28 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990411081603.A24961@griend.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1125034427186040297==" --===============1125034427186040297== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Cees van de Griend wrote: > You (SuSE)... 1st I'm not SuSE, the usual disclaimer applies (everything I say is my own oppinion bla bla...). 2nd, you don't have a problem, ok, I have a problem with it and from what I've heard (I'm at SuSE sicne 1 March) some otehr people here have a problem with it as well. MTA software is a central piece of the system. While I can live with non-free licences for user apps I don't wanna see them in the core system. --=20 Michael Hasenstein http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/> Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1125034427186040297==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Sun Apr 11 10:03:55 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.5 kernel compile Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:03:55 +0100 Message-ID: <199904111004.LAA29394@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3720582818314672957==" --===============3720582818314672957== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Just to make sure that I'm not completely wrong I thought I'd ask a=20 question about compiling a 2.2.5 kernel with SuSE 6.0. Do I need to upgrade any of the packages to compile this kernel ? =20 We have had a longish argument about this over here. Some of us=20 think that it should work fine, others think that there may be a=20 problem. I've been using..... make menuconfig make dep make clean=20 make bzIamge make modules make modules_install. Should I put=20 the make clean at the end of the list of instructions ? Thanks Richard Sheffield UK Home of the=20 Trans-European Rain Cloud -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3720582818314672957==-- From richwill@innotts.co.uk Sun Apr 11 10:52:15 1999 From: richwill@innotts.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: qt libraries - newbie Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:52:15 +0100 Message-ID: <002201be8409$5e329d20$c901a8c0@rw> In-Reply-To: <19990410162220.B278@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0971726445853472809==" --===============0971726445853472809== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hi, > > On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 11:10 +0100, Richard Williamson wrote: > > > I am trying to run ./configure on several programs I have downloaded, but I > > get an error saying that it can't find the qt 1.3 libraries. I've had a > > look in /usr/X11R6/lib and there is a load of qt stuff there. > > questions: > > Sounds like you forgot to install the qtdevel, qtext and > qtcompat packages. Nope, I've got these installed and even reinstalled them. > > 1) What exactly is a qt library? > > It's a library for writing graphical user interfaces. KDE, for > instance, uses it. > > > 2) Do I have to point to it in a PATH variable somewhere? > > No, you shouldn't have to bother about that. If you use the qt > stuff that came with SuSE Linux, the necessary settings are done > automatically. > > > 3) How can I tell if it's the 1.3 version that I have got? > > Again, if you use the qt supplied with SuSE, a > > rpm -q qt Hmmm....even after reinstalling the above packages, I get no response from this :( I've also tried locate libqt, as suggested by Andy Ford, but with no luck. Any ideas? Richard Williamson -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0971726445853472809==-- From adcarlso@visinet.ca Sun Apr 11 11:43:07 1999 From: adcarlso@visinet.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] time zone question Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 07:43:07 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0298622418414774133==" --===============0298622418414774133== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11-Apr-99 Graham Murray wrote: >=20 > "Michael Doerner" writes: >=20 >> We are on Standard time here in New Zealand at the moment, Daylight >> saving has finished a while ago. The PC's RTC is set to the current >> local time. Example (it's just 11:30 this morning): >=20 > That I think is your problem. The normal way of handling timezones on > Lunux is to set the CMOS clock to UTC (GMT) and tell the system what > timezone you are in, so that it displays it correctly > -- Somehow that doesn't sound right. Setting the CMOS to GMT would throw off the time on all other OS's you run (Wimpdoze, DOS, OS/2, etc. etc.) I keep my CMOS at localtime. Linux knows which timezone that refers to by the timezone setting I select. However I did not automate the time change. I did it manually. Come to think of it, my CMOS should have automated it for me (if I understand correctly). As for Linux, check the how-to file for the Clock; = it is a very good resource on the subject. ----------------------------------- Arlen Carlson "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." -- Mark Twain This message was sent by XFmail (Linux) -o) /\\ _\_v The penguins are coming... the penguins are coming... ----------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0298622418414774133==-- From g.rizzo@usa.net Sun Apr 11 12:41:10 1999 From: g.rizzo@usa.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: R: [SuSE Linux] Logitech Cordless Wheel Mouse Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:41:10 +0200 Message-ID: <003401be841b$18b5bea0$02088a9d@gg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2753562921454118437==" --===============2753562921454118437== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have a Logitech Cordless wheel mouse, too, and I stepped into the same problem of you. Sorry for the delay in answering, but I've been in holiday, and finally (unfortunately) I'm back. Basically, using the wheel means adding two more buttons, that are 'pressed' when the wheel is scrolled up and down; there's a program called 'imwheel' that does it. You'll need to make some changes in some configuration files (xf86config, if I remember well). The procedure should be described in a text that comes with the program; anyway, I found it in an italian document. I followed it, and now it works *great*. If you can't find the program, I can send it to you; if you can't find the right procedure, write me and I'll describe it, or give the URL, if you can understand italian... Well, hope to have been of some use! Mano :) ---------------------------------- Germano Rizzo - g.rizzo(a)usa.net http://members.xoom.com/germano> webmaster of http://members.xoom.com/ACSpinea> Linux Registered User N=C2=B0 114445 Official Linux KDE Doc. Translator PLUTO member - www.pluto.linux.it ---------------------------------- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GE d-(--) s:- a-->? C++++>$ UL>+++$ P L+++>++++ E++ W+++ N+(++) ?o w---(+) !O M- ?V PS+ PE-- ?Y> PGP+ t-(--) ?5 X+ R tv- b+++ DI++ D+++ G++ e h! r@ y?* ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ht= tp://www.geekcode.com> -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Ren West A: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Data: sabato 3 aprile 1999 23.50 Oggetto: [SuSE Linux] Logitech Cordless Wheel Mouse > >I had to get me one of these mice. It works as a >pointer in Linux with no problems. Good 'ol Logitech. > But the wheel would be a nice feature to have work >while I'm in Linux. Anyone know of any support for >the Wheel portion? The SuSE database says it doesn't >have support but you can get the button part of the >wheel to work. But the date was kinda old and perhaps >there is support somewhere. Does anyone know where I >could get such information? >Also, a friend of mine is having troubles with his >modem. Its a Jaton 56K internal. The Communicator I >believe is it. It isn't a WinModem at least. But I >tried to set it up for him and had no luck. Minicom >doesn't wanna work right. None of the AT commands >return anything. And PPP returns an i/o error. >Anyone have any information on these modems? Thanks >in advance. > >Ren West >ren(a)ssm.ca >=3D=3D=3D >Ren West >Software Support Analyst >MNet / PSDi >Reynald_W(a)yahoo.com >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2753562921454118437==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Apr 11 12:57:52 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Star Office...oops, installed as root Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:57:52 +0200 Message-ID: <19990411145752.B598@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <99041022585300.00282@charlie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8693887040998281858==" --===============8693887040998281858== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 22:56 +0100, Richard Booth wrote: > What directories under root did you install SO5? Did you > install in /opt or in root? I take it that you installed the > 2mb or so under each users home directory as per SO5 default > setting? The first install goes to /opt. /root wouldn't be a great idea, because users don't have read permission on that directory. The workstation install goes to the user's home directory. Ciao, Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8693887040998281858==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 11 13:20:38 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Symbolic links vs. hard link Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:20:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3710A1A6.FC05D1CB@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <19990411075628.A926@datapro.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0767258912794730816==" --===============0767258912794730816== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Crane wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 09:49:06PM -0500, Raul Beltran wrote: > > ln -s > > > > the '-s' option creates a symbolic link instead of a hard link. > > I've often wondered just what is meant by 'symbolic link' and 'hard > link'. The man page for ln mentions, but doesn't explain them. Can > someone explain the difference or point me to some docs that do explain > the difference. > --===============0767258912794730816==-- From dlaude@execpc.com Sun Apr 11 13:38:15 1999 From: dlaude@execpc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ICQ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:38:15 -0500 Message-ID: <199904111338.IAA06061@mailgw00.execpc.com> In-Reply-To: <37102964.D6958F3D@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2966912054545886799==" --===============2966912054545886799== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---Reply to mail from Fred A. Miller >=20 > I hadn't noticed it posted here, but the java version of ICQ runs GREAT! I= t's > the only version that I know of that will run on Linux...there isn't another > ICQ > app. that will work (far as I know)...the KDE ICQ is obviously in dev. You= do > have to edit the install script, but just 1 line. There a at least two versions of ICQ for KDE that I know of, (personally tried) kicq, and kxicq..., the latter worked well over here. I'm currently using GTKicq which is nice, also give gicq a try. (older) Dana --=20 I love Windows. The kind that only go into my house...! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2966912054545886799==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Sun Apr 11 13:38:45 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:38:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3710A5E5.8ED9F117@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5414455351570648871==" --===============5414455351570648871== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael, Ummm, Well..what I think the previous poster was talking about is that it's really not against the law license wise to include the software on the cd. You don't have to make it part of the core system, but at least give the user a choice whether or not to install it. If they want qmail, sendmail, or any other package. I may be offbase on this, but I do see any valid reason not to include it. You included KDE when QT was not open source..so what's the real problem with including this package? I don't mind sendmail for various reasons, but others may just not want to use it. just my 0.02 > 2nd, you don't have a problem, ok, I have a problem with it and from what > I've heard (I'm at SuSE sicne 1 March) some otehr people here have a > problem with it as well. MTA software is a central piece of the system. > While I can live with non-free licences for user apps I don't wanna see > them in the core system. --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5414455351570648871==-- From andyford@nothnbut.net Sun Apr 11 13:40:03 1999 From: andyford@nothnbut.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: qt libraries - newbie Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:40:03 -0500 Message-ID: <19990411084003.A6550@dave.ford.saint-louis.mo.us> In-Reply-To: <002201be8409$5e329d20$c901a8c0@rw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6195401862731693888==" --===============6195401862731693888== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 11:52:15AM +0100, Richard Williamson wrote: >=20 > > rpm -q qt >=20 > Hmmm....even after reinstalling the above packages, I get no response from > this :( actually the name of the package is "qtlib".=20 rm -q qtlib should give something if it's installed. When I want to find out about an rpm and I don't know the exact name=20 I use rpm -qa | grep The -qa option queries all the installed packages, "|" is called a pipe and it sends that huge list of all packages into the "grep" command which searches for the text string. So to find the real name of the qt rpms do rpm -qa | grep qt and i get: qtlib-1.42-6 qtdevel-1.42-5 qtext-1.42-5 qtcompat-1.42-5 >=20 > I've also tried locate libqt, as suggested by Andy Ford, but with no luck. I should point out that locate depends on a database that you can regenerate at any time by running updatedb which should run automatically once a day in the background HTH Andy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6195401862731693888==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Sun Apr 11 13:44:01 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Balsa is some hard wood to crack :) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:44:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3710A721.D4A202E4@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7092831568246929033==" --===============7092831568246929033== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, This is the end of the configure output when I try to get Balsa to install. I have installed all the packages on the site or at least I think I have them right. I get this and I don't know what to do about it. I have all the gnome packages installed from the 6.0 cd as well. I would really like to give this e-mailer a try, because 9 out of 10 times I am on irc and e-mailing people..and I don't want to start up Netscape for mail. I like Messenger, but its a bit mutha. I don't like KDE, so I do not have it installed .. but this mailer looks pretty good..." looks " pretty good :) hehehe. If anyone can smack some sense into this noggin of mine I would really like that...cause I have banged my head for 3 days on it. thanks, ointer-arith -c libbalsa.c libbalsa.c:23: gnome.h: No such file or directory In file included from libbalsa.c:24: ../src/balsa-app.h:22: gnome.h: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [libbalsa.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/balsa-0.4.6.2/libbalsa' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/balsa-0.4.6.2' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7092831568246929033==-- From mha@suse.de Sun Apr 11 14:00:36 1999 From: mha@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:00:36 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3710A5E5.8ED9F117@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0115852557913661671==" --===============0115852557913661671== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote: > ...You included KDE when QT was not open source..so what's the real > problem with including this package?...=20 Reminder: see my '1st' in my prev. mail. I've nothing to do with this, so you don't need to care what I think or don't think about this. --=20 Michael Hasenstein http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/> Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0115852557913661671==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 11 14:20:06 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ICQ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:20:06 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37102964.D6958F3D@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2145692934685288356==" --===============2145692934685288356== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote: >=20 > I hadn't noticed it posted here, but the java version of ICQ runs GREAT! I= t's > the only version that I know of that will run on Linux...there isn't anothe= r ICQ > app. that will work (far as I know)...the KDE ICQ is obviously in dev. You= do > have to edit the install script, but just 1 line. I don't know what this person's on, but it must be a really fast machine and an ignorance of Freshmeat! There are about 6 or 7 different ICQ clones available on Freshmeat. Almost all of them are better than the Java version. Java is a neat language, but unfortunately, applets on the web are mostly useless drivel that I'm not willing to wait for and applications are far too slow, especially on Linux. The Java version is also *far* from full-featured, especially compared to the other programs available. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2145692934685288356==-- From jpg@hpcvsjpg.cv.hp.com Sun Apr 11 14:39:43 1999 From: jpg@hpcvsjpg.cv.hp.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCMCIA NIC's Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 07:39:43 -0700 Message-ID: <199904111439.HAA18111@hpcvsjpg.cv.hp.com> In-Reply-To: <37101E15.EA29945@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5622088584683734623==" --===============5622088584683734623== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Henning, From the URL's you gave me I found the list of support PCMCIA cards at: htt= p://hyper.stanford.edu/~dhinds/pcmcia/ftp/SUPPORTED.CARDS> John >=20 > "John P. Griffin" wrote: > >=20 > > Hey gang, > >=20 > > Looking for a list of currently supported, from within linuxrc, PCMCIA NI= C's > > for SuSE 5.3. Is there such a list and where is it? >=20 > Don't know. But I would start with the suse cdb and the PCMCIA-HOWTO. > The Howto is in http://metalab.unc.= edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/> or > http://metalab.unc.edu/pu= b/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/> . > The howto contains lots of usefull links. I think, you should be > able to find something this way. >=20 > Henning >=20 > --=20 > H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5622088584683734623==-- From ozyman@easyliving.com Sun Apr 11 15:15:45 1999 From: ozyman@easyliving.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] qt libraries - newbie Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:15:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3710BCA1.B5D48EDD@easyliving.com> In-Reply-To: <000d01be833a$5509ccc0$c901a8c0@rw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1120372205384795662==" --===============1120372205384795662== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out the SuSE ftp site and get a file called qtcompat. I believer tht will solve your problem by providing some backward compatibility for programs that require older QT libs. Richard Williamson wrote: >=20 > Hi all, > I am trying to run ./configure on several programs I have downloaded, but I > get an error saying that it can't find the qt 1.3 libraries. I've had a > look in /usr/X11R6/lib and there is a load of qt stuff there. > questions: > 1) What exactly is a qt library? > 2) Do I have to point to it in a PATH variable somewhere? > 3) How can I tell if it's the 1.3 version that I have got? >=20 > Please forgive my terminal ignorance but I am still at the bottom of a very > steep learning curve in Linux and I don't really get what's happening with > all of these different libraries. >=20 > Dazed and confused > Richard Williamson >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1120372205384795662==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 11 15:31:37 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Balsa is some hard wood to crack :) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:31:37 -0700 Message-ID: <199904111531.IAA01751@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: <3710A721.D4A202E4@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7026433428821675234==" --===============7026433428821675234== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11 Apr, Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote: >=20 > Hello all, >=20 > This is the end of the configure output when I try to get Balsa to > install. I have installed all the packages on the site or at least I > think I have them right. I get this and I don't know what to do about > it. I have all the gnome packages installed from the 6.0 cd as well. > I would really like to give this e-mailer a try, because 9 out of 10 > times I am on irc and e-mailing people..and I don't want to start up > Netscape for mail. I like Messenger, but its a bit mutha. I don't like > KDE, so I do not have it installed .. but this mailer looks pretty > good..." looks " pretty good :) hehehe. > If anyone can smack some sense into this noggin of mine I would really > like that...cause I have banged my head for 3 days on it. >=20 > thanks, >=20 > ointer-arith -c libbalsa.c > libbalsa.c:23: gnome.h: No such file or directory > In file included from libbalsa.c:24: > ../src/balsa-app.h:22: gnome.h: No such file or directory > make[2]: *** [libbalsa.o] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/balsa-0.4.6.2/libbalsa' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/balsa-0.4.6.2' > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 >=20 Do you have the gnome-libs-devel installed? gnome.h belongs to gnome-libs-devel.Also try pointing the configure script to the correct place if you have the gnome-libs-devel in place. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7026433428821675234==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 11 15:34:59 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] gnome rpms for SuSE 6 Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:34:59 -0700 Message-ID: <199904111535.IAA01781@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1935676242671590774==" --===============1935676242671590774== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is SuSE planning on releasing rpms for the latest gnome-libs, core, and control-center? Up until a month ago a volunteer was releasing quite good rpms but this person does not seem to be doing this anymore. It would be quite nice if SuSE would support rpm updates in the manner they did KDE. Thanks for any consideration. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1935676242671590774==-- From mha@suse.de Sun Apr 11 17:00:39 1999 From: mha@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:00:39 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-)> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2748981482279400088==" --===============2748981482279400088== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Cees van de Griend wrote: > This I don't understand. Why, that's so easy: whatever you think, _I_ don't think it's free. His licence is very far from free, IMHO. My opinion is mine, yours is yours, that's how the world works... --=20 Michael Hasenstein http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/> Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2748981482279400088==-- From hlarons@ComCAT.COM Sun Apr 11 17:40:16 1999 From: hlarons@ComCAT.COM To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SIGHUP ? Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:40:16 -0400 Message-ID: <19990411134016.B395@BeagleDog> In-Reply-To: <370FAFC9.6AB81562@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3050760253408973081==" --===============3050760253408973081== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Apr 10, 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 ... > don't consider yourself idling. ISP's that "overbook their modem ports > use their watchdog alot. I recall reading about a setting somewhere > that causes your pppd to send out a ping every so often, just to keep > the dogs away, but I can't recall where it is at right now. Maybe > another reader remembers. Put: lcp-echo-failure 5 lcp-echo-interval 2 in your /etc/ppp/options file. For more info on these options, 'man ppp'. Howard Arons --=20 Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- Upgraded to kernel 2.0.36 Communications by Mutt 0.93.2i -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3050760253408973081==-- From bushman@btinternet.com Sun Apr 11 18:15:12 1999 From: bushman@btinternet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Help - Internet connection. Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:15:12 +0100 Message-ID: <3710E6B0.F2923432@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7146143452212884841==" --===============7146143452212884841== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi people, As a complete newbie to Windows not so very long ago, setting up my Internet connection was no problem. Now, as a Linux newbie, I wish I could say the same :-) Can anyone tell me, in 5 lines or less, how I go about setting up my connection, or point me to an idiot-proof program that will make this a simple process - bearing in mind that editing scripts, etc. is beyond my meagre talents. I use KDE as my preferred GUI, so anything I can run on this to solve my problem would be ideal. My thanks in anticipation. Bushman. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7146143452212884841==-- From skoper@mediaone.net Sun Apr 11 18:28:18 1999 From: skoper@mediaone.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] IP Forwarding and Firewalls Once Again Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:28:18 -0400 Message-ID: <000601be8449$13decc40$020aa8c0@CYRIX1.alembic.ne.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6956889819127209813==" --===============6956889819127209813== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, I have an internal network, a cable modem (Mediaone) connection to the Internet, and an AMD 5x86 machine as my firewall. I had SuSE 6.0 installed with the 2.0.36 kernel, then I tried installing the 2.2.5 kernel, and had some difficulty. Although ip forwarding worked for a while, I broke a few things. The upshot was I blew away SuSE 6.0 and reinstalled it. Now I'm back to square one with a lot of stuff (boy, what you forget when you don't use it). I have the LINUX Complete Reference here, and a bunch of printouts on IP forwarding, firewalling, using ipfwadm (as well as ipchains, but I'll deal with that later). Here's my problem. My internal IP address is 192.168.10.x, and the external NIC is 24.128.24.x When I read the IP filtering setup if ipfwadm (I think this is from the "how-to"), it starts off by Denying all services. OK, type in: ipfwadm -F -p deny Then it says "flush all commands", and gives three lines with separate commands. OK, I'm fine so, far, except that I wonder if flushing all commands doesn't flush the "ipfwadm -F -p deny" command also. But let that go. Here's the real problem. The HOW to give several lines, which I will render as given: # Forward email to your server ifpwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 0.0.0.0/0 1024:65535 -D 192.1.2.10 25 # Forward email connections to outside email servers ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 196.1.2.10 25 -D 0.0.0.0/0 1024:65535 # Forward web connections to your Web Server ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 0.0.0.0/0 1024:65535 -D 196.1.2.11 80 # Forward web connections to outside Web Server ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 196.1.2.* 80 -D 0.0.0.0/0 1024:65535 #Forward DNS traffic ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P udp -S 0.0.0.0/0 53 -D 196.1.2.0/24 OK, now as a practical matter, I want to substitute my internal NIC ip for one of the above IP's, and my external NIC for another. But I get confused. In the examples (and I think the author of the How-To is consistent in this througout, except perhaps for typos), the IPs are too close for comfort. Do I switch my 192.168.10.1 (the IP for the internal NIC on my router) for the 192 address above, and my 24.128.24.x IP (external NIC) for the 196.x.x.x addresses? And what's with 196.1.2.* ? What's that supposed to mean? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Stan Koper -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6956889819127209813==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 11 18:51:11 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help - Internet connection. Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:51:11 -0700 Message-ID: <199904111851.LAA02450@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: <3710E6B0.F2923432@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7961390957476614604==" --===============7961390957476614604== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11 Apr, Bushman wrote: >=20 > Hi people, >=20 > As a complete newbie to Windows not so very long ago, setting up my > Internet connection was no problem. Now, as a Linux newbie, I wish I > could say the same :-) >=20 > Can anyone tell me, in 5 lines or less, how I go about setting up my > connection, or point me to an idiot-proof program that will make this a > simple process - bearing in mind that editing scripts, etc. is beyond my > meagre talents. I use KDE as my preferred GUI, so anything I can run on > this to solve my problem would be ideal. >=20 > My thanks in anticipation. >=20 > Bushman. >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> I suggest trying wvdial which is included on the SuSE 6 cd. This program creates a little 10 line file in /etc on your system called wvdial.conf. You simply edit this file with pico and fill in the blanks for each value. The values are like Phone Number, Login: Password:, etc. The file is a ascii text file. Wvdial does a nice job at checking out modem capabilities, etc. You will need to ensure that your /etc/hosts file is right and that /etc/resolv.conf is correct.=20 See the suse manual on these files or drop me an email and I can help with it. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7961390957476614604==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Sun Apr 11 18:51:56 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IP Forwarding and Firewalls Once Again Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:51:56 +0200 Message-ID: <3710EF4C.2EA40763@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <000601be8449$13decc40$020aa8c0@CYRIX1.alembic.ne.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2203930844818150843==" --===============2203930844818150843== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Stan, You need to use IP chains with kernel 2.2.5. You can either rewrite the scrip= ts or download them. I cant find the link right now. It was available at www.suse.de/~bb/. I will try to put the script on my server at http://cgmd71239= .chello.nl/data/> I'm right now quite busy. So it'll be tomorrow. I hope it's helpful. I use the ipchain scripts and i also use a cable modem. I have hooked a win98 computer up via the ipchain computer, linux, kernel 2.2.4= . I need the win 98 computer because of school. :-( I hope it's helpful. Regards, Joop. Stan Koper wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have an internal network, a cable modem (Mediaone) connection to the > Internet, and an AMD 5x86 machine as my firewall. I had SuSE 6.0 installed > with the 2.0.36 kernel, then I tried installing the 2.2.5 kernel, and had > some difficulty. Although ip forwarding worked for a while, I broke a few > things. > > The upshot was I blew away SuSE 6.0 and reinstalled it. Now I'm back to > square one with a lot of stuff (boy, what you forget when you don't use it). > I have the LINUX Complete Reference here, and a bunch of printouts on IP > forwarding, firewalling, using ipfwadm (as well as ipchains, but I'll deal > with that later). > > Here's my problem. My internal IP address is 192.168.10.x, and the > external NIC is 24.128.24.x When I read the IP filtering setup if ipfwadm > (I think this is from the "how-to"), it starts off by Denying all services. > > OK, type in: ipfwadm -F -p deny > > Then it says "flush all commands", and gives three lines with separate > commands. OK, I'm fine so, far, except that I wonder if flushing all > commands doesn't flush the "ipfwadm -F -p deny" command also. But let that > go. > > Here's the real problem. > > The HOW to give several lines, which I will render as given: > > # Forward email to your server > ifpwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 0.0.0.0/0 1024:65535 -D 192.1.2.10 25 > > # Forward email connections to outside email servers > ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 196.1.2.10 25 -D 0.0.0.0/0 1024:65535 > > # Forward web connections to your Web Server > ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 0.0.0.0/0 1024:65535 -D 196.1.2.11 80 > > # Forward web connections to outside Web Server > ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 196.1.2.* 80 -D 0.0.0.0/0 1024:65535 > > #Forward DNS traffic > ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P udp -S 0.0.0.0/0 53 -D 196.1.2.0/24 > > OK, now as a practical matter, I want to substitute my internal NIC ip for > one of the above IP's, and my external NIC for another. But I get confused. > In the examples (and I think the author of the How-To is consistent in this > througout, except perhaps for typos), the IPs are too close for comfort. Do > I switch my 192.168.10.1 (the IP for the internal NIC on my router) for the > 192 address above, and my 24.128.24.x IP (external NIC) for the 196.x.x.x > addresses? > > And what's with 196.1.2.* ? What's that supposed to mean? > > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > Stan Koper > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2203930844818150843==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Sun Apr 11 19:06:31 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IP Forwarding and Firewalls Once Again Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:06:31 +0200 Message-ID: <3710F2B7.ACC4BF5C@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <3710EF4C.2EA40763@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7380853163266665642==" --===============7380853163266665642== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stan, I have put it in the folder http://cgmd712= 39.chello.nl/data/ipchains/> . I think in there are instructions included in a file after you decompressed the file fw-= new.tgz . Let me know if it's not correct. I didn't have the time to look into it if everything is available. Regards, Joop. Joop Boonen wrote: > Dear Stan, > > You need to use IP chains with kernel 2.2.5. You can either rewrite the scr= ipts > or download them. I cant find the link right now. It was available at > www.suse.de/~bb/. > > I will try to put the script on my server at http://cgmd712= 39.chello.nl/data/> > I'm right now quite busy. So it'll be tomorrow. > > I hope it's helpful. I use the ipchain scripts and i also use a cable modem= . I > have hooked a win98 computer up via the ipchain computer, linux, kernel 2.2= .4. I > need the win 98 computer because of school. :-( > > I hope it's helpful. > > Regards, > > Joop. > > Stan Koper wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I have an internal network, a cable modem (Mediaone) connection to the > > Internet, and an AMD 5x86 machine as my firewall. I had SuSE 6.0 install= ed > > with the 2.0.36 kernel, then I tried installing the 2.2.5 kernel, and had > > some difficulty. Although ip forwarding worked for a while, I broke a few > > things. > > > > The upshot was I blew away SuSE 6.0 and reinstalled it. Now I'm back= to > > square one with a lot of stuff (boy, what you forget when you don't use i= t). > > I have the LINUX Complete Reference here, and a bunch of printouts on IP > > forwarding, firewalling, using ipfwadm (as well as ipchains, but I'll deal > > with that later). > > > > Here's my problem. My internal IP address is 192.168.10.x, and the > > external NIC is 24.128.24.x When I read the IP filtering setup if ipfwa= dm > > (I think this is from the "how-to"), it starts off by Denying all service= s. > > > > OK, type in: ipfwadm -F -p deny > > > > Then it says "flush all commands", and gives three lines with separate > > commands. OK, I'm fine so, far, except that I wonder if flushing all > > commands doesn't flush the "ipfwadm -F -p deny" command also. But let th= at > > go. > > > > Here's the real problem. > > > > The HOW to give several lines, which I will render as given: > > > > # Forward email to your server > > ifpwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 0.0.0.0/0 1024:65535 -D 192.1.2.10 25 > > > > # Forward email connections to outside email servers > > ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 196.1.2.10 25 -D 0.0.0.0/0 1024:65535 > > > > # Forward web connections to your Web Server > > ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 0.0.0.0/0 1024:65535 -D 196.1.2.11 80 > > > > # Forward web connections to outside Web Server > > ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 196.1.2.* 80 -D 0.0.0.0/0 1024:65535 > > > > #Forward DNS traffic > > ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P udp -S 0.0.0.0/0 53 -D 196.1.2.0/24 > > > > OK, now as a practical matter, I want to substitute my internal NIC ip for > > one of the above IP's, and my external NIC for another. But I get confus= ed. > > In the examples (and I think the author of the How-To is consistent in th= is > > througout, except perhaps for typos), the IPs are too close for comfort. = Do > > I switch my 192.168.10.1 (the IP for the internal NIC on my router) for t= he > > 192 address above, and my 24.128.24.x IP (external NIC) for the 196.x.x.x > > addresses? > > > > And what's with 196.1.2.* ? What's that supposed to mean? > > > > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Stan Koper > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/S= upport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7380853163266665642==-- From richwill@innotts.co.uk Sun Apr 11 19:19:53 1999 From: richwill@innotts.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] qt libraries - newbie Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:19:53 +0100 Message-ID: <004201be8450$82fcac80$c901a8c0@rw> In-Reply-To: <3710BCA1.B5D48EDD@easyliving.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4504381809872014876==" --===============4504381809872014876== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Woohoo! Thanks to all who replied. I have managed to sort this problem by getting qtcompat (as recommended), and now everything (well almost :)) is fine - for the moment. What would I do without this group?! Many thanks Richard WIlliamson -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4504381809872014876==-- From chjo@tripnet.se Sun Apr 11 19:42:19 1999 From: chjo@tripnet.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Pine question Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:42:19 +0200 Message-ID: <3710FB1B.3C22D8DF@tripnet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8449935176345502581==" --===============8449935176345502581== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, list I normally use Netscape for all my mail/news stuff, but I would like to use pine as an alternative. (I find the console easy on the eyes after a long day at work). However, I can't get it to work properly. I have a pop3 account at my isp and it uses pap. Any help and suggestions appreciated. Tina --=20 Linux - The choice of a GNU generation Homepage: [http://www8.tripnet.se/~chjo/>] -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8449935176345502581==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Sun Apr 11 19:55:13 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] lib file Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:55:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3710FE21.A52616FA@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <199904111531.IAA01751@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1091014681035182407==" --===============1091014681035182407== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I have downloaded and compiled every libjpeg package I can find...and none of them come with this file..can someone point me at a tar.gz package that has it for sure...at this point I need to be treated like a 6 year old..*sigh* Thanks, libjpeg.so.62: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1091014681035182407==-- From espiritudelvino@hotmail.com Sun Apr 11 20:09:57 1999 From: espiritudelvino@hotmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Redhat vs. SuSE Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:09:57 -0500 Message-ID: <19990411200959.20305.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Redhat vs. SuSE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4474828251606217733==" --===============4474828251606217733== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have been using redhat 5.2 and i've found it to get slow when=20 I run about 5 apps at the same time. Specifically, I run first x11amp,=20 that works great, then I start, say 2 kwrite editors, an xterm to=20 compile, and everything goes OK, but if i run another app, the x11amp=20 gets jumpy... I think that shouldnt happen. I'd like to know if it=20 will be the same history under SuSE... or maybe a kernel upgrade will=20 help? I have an AMD-K6 300 Mhz, 64M Ram, SB AWE64, kernel 2.0.36, running=20 WindowMaker and another question...=20 I just installed xfstt, and now I would like to know what is the best=20 way to start it automatically for all users... thank you Raul Beltran Mexico City... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4474828251606217733==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Sun Apr 11 20:11:04 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help - Internet connection. Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:11:04 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3710E6B0.F2923432@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8414581672894158491==" --===============8414581672894158491== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In 5 lines or less see my page ,(link on bottom of this message. look for the wvdial program, print and follow the readme to the letter. You can use wvdial in k by running it in an xterm so thats it in *5* lines ;-) (not including the sig) rob On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Bushman wrote: -> ->Hi people, -> ->As a complete newbie to Windows not so very long ago, setting up my ->Internet connection was no problem. Now, as a Linux newbie, I wish I ->could say the same :-) -> ->Can anyone tell me, in 5 lines or less, how I go about setting up my ->connection, or point me to an idiot-proof program that will make this a ->simple process - bearing in mind that editing scripts, etc. is beyond my ->meagre talents. I use KDE as my preferred GUI, so anything I can run on ->this to solve my problem would be ideal. -> ->My thanks in anticipation. -> ->Bushman. -> ->-- ->To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with ->this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ->Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the ->archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -> Linux Homepage http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM= .htm> S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8414581672894158491==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 11 21:03:01 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help - Internet connection. Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:03:01 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3710E6B0.F2923432@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5676692600415522851==" --===============5676692600415522851== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Bushman wrote: > Can anyone tell me, in 5 lines or less, how I go about setting up my > connection, or point me to an idiot-proof program that will make this a > simple process - bearing in mind that editing scripts, etc. is beyond my > meagre talents. I use KDE as my preferred GUI, so anything I can run on > this to solve my problem would be ideal. Well, have you tried kppp? I don't use KDE, and I remember that when I did, it never worked, but maybe you'll have better luck. If not, I don't think that SuSEPPP will be quite easy enough for you. No offence, but the version I have requires you to do some minor editing of configuration files if you're not using CHAP or PAP -- and it isn't well-documented enough. Nevertheless, I, determined, eventually figured out what it wanted me to do. But if I hadn't been so obsessed, I would've just used pppsetup, which is available somewhere within=20 ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux>. IIRC, it's in system/n= etwork/serial/ppp, but I could be wrong. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5676692600415522851==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 11 21:07:10 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Redhat vs. SuSE Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:07:10 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990411200959.20305.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3377129351754748358==" --===============3377129351754748358== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Raul Beltran wrote: > Hello, I have been using redhat 5.2 and i've found it to get slow when=20 > I run about 5 apps at the same time. Specifically, I run first x11amp,=20 > that works great, then I start, say 2 kwrite editors, an xterm to=20 > compile, and everything goes OK, but if i run another app, the x11amp=20 > gets jumpy... I think that shouldnt happen. I'd like to know if it=20 > will be the same history under SuSE... or maybe a kernel upgrade will=20 > help? >=20 > I have an AMD-K6 300 Mhz, 64M Ram, SB AWE64, kernel 2.0.36, running=20 > WindowMaker It might help. But unless you really nice it, compilations tend to eat up a lot of CPU power. By the way, the phrase is "same story". "History" means something different from "story". ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3377129351754748358==-- From jonski@cachalot74.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 11 21:29:46 1999 From: jonski@cachalot74.freeserve.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help - Internet connection. Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:29:46 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01be8462$8dc7de20$491e883e@default> In-Reply-To: <3710E6B0.F2923432@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4796728812021159523==" --===============4796728812021159523== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- From: Bushman To: Sent: 11 April 1999 19:15 Subject: [SuSE Linux] Help - Internet connection. > > Hi people, > > As a complete newbie to Windows not so very long ago, setting up my > Internet connection was no problem. Now, as a Linux newbie, I wish I > could say the same :-) > > Can anyone tell me, in 5 lines or less, how I go about setting up my > connection, or point me to an idiot-proof program that will make this a > simple process - bearing in mind that editing scripts, etc. is beyond my > meagre talents. I use KDE as my preferred GUI, so anything I can run on > this to solve my problem would be ideal. > > My thanks in anticipation. > > Bushman. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > I see that in answer to your question re: internet connection Michael Perry has suggested using wvdial. Please be aware that the default number to dial is 999999. If you are in the UK you know who that will connect you to and it does. John Skinner -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4796728812021159523==-- From mlmayo@texas.net Sun Apr 11 21:48:00 1999 From: mlmayo@texas.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Redhat vs. SuSE Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:48:00 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990411200959.20305.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1046430979727530969==" --===============1046430979727530969== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm currently running SuSE 6.0 with kernel 2.2.5 on an AMD K6-2 333 with 128MB ram. I use Xi-Graphics CDE (which uses a fair amount of resources). I've never experienced a jumpyness as you explain with SuSE even with Mathematica, Netscape, StarOffice, a few dtterms, etc. all going at once. I've been doing some data crunching over the past few days and was expecting to see some sort of performance drag but have noticed nothing (of course it takes longer for things to complete with several things going at once but there is no visible drag or jumpyness). I can't think of any reason why RH should slow down using the apps you mention. I have noticed an appreciable increase in performance with the new kernel so you may want to give that a shot first. =20 Hope this helps, =20 Mike On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Raul Beltran wrote: >=20 > Hello, I have been using redhat 5.2 and i've found it to get slow when=20 > I run about 5 apps at the same time. Specifically, I run first x11amp,=20 > that works great, then I start, say 2 kwrite editors, an xterm to=20 > compile, and everything goes OK, but if i run another app, the x11amp=20 > gets jumpy... I think that shouldnt happen. I'd like to know if it=20 > will be the same history under SuSE... or maybe a kernel upgrade will=20 > help? >=20 > I have an AMD-K6 300 Mhz, 64M Ram, SB AWE64, kernel 2.0.36, running=20 > WindowMaker >=20 > and another question...=20 > I just installed xfstt, and now I would like to know what is the best=20 > way to start it automatically for all users... >=20 > thank you >=20 > Raul Beltran > Mexico City... >=20 > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1046430979727530969==-- From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Sun Apr 11 21:55:39 1999 From: chuckwm_98@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Pine question Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:55:39 -0700 Message-ID: <19990411215539.27148.rocketmail@web205.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Pine question> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0899601648015315475==" --===============0899601648015315475== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tina, What sort of problems are you having setting up pine? It is actually fairly intuitive once you start playing with it. If you are at all familiar with vi as an editor mutt is quite nice as well. Just ask away and I can help ya. Chuck --- Tina wrote: >=20 > Hi, list >=20 > I normally use Netscape for all my mail/news stuff, > but I would like to use > pine as an alternative. (I find the console easy on > the eyes after a long > day at work). However, I can't get it to work > properly. I have a pop3 > account at my isp and it uses pap. Any help and > suggestions appreciated. >=20 > Tina > --=20 > Linux - The choice of a GNU generation > Homepage: [http://www8.tripnet.se/~chjo/>] > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to > majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > archive at > http://www.s= use.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0899601648015315475==-- From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Sun Apr 11 22:11:15 1999 From: chuckwm_98@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IP Forwarding and Firewalls Once Again Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:11:15 -0700 Message-ID: <19990411221115.7680.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] IP Forwarding and Firewalls Once Again> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8051408588087160186==" --===============8051408588087160186== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stan, I am not much of an expert but I will try to help out a bit: >=20 > Here's the real problem. >=20 > The HOW to give several lines, which I will > render as given: >=20 > # Forward email to your server > ifpwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 0.0.0.0/0 > 1024:65535 -D 192.1.2.10 25 what this is that any traffic on port 25 from anywhere to 192.1.2.10. This would probably be a 192.168.x.x number or 10.x.x.x if you prefer. =20 >=20 > # Forward email connections to outside email servers > ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 196.1.2.10 25 -D > 0.0.0.0/0 1024:65535 This means that any port 25 traffic from 196.1.2.10(192.168.x.x in your case) will leave via the default route(or something to that effect) >=20 > # Forward web connections to your Web Server > ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 0.0.0.0/0 > 1024:65535 -D 196.1.2.11 80 This means any incoming port 80(web) traffic will be directed to 196.1.2.11(192.168.x.x in your case) >=20 > # Forward web connections to outside Web Server > ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P tcp -S 196.1.2.* 80 -D > 0.0.0.0/0 1024:65535 >=20 > #Forward DNS traffic > ipfwadm -F -a accept -b -P udp -S 0.0.0.0/0 53 -D > 196.1.2.0/24 I think you get the picture now...I hope...Anyway..If not then feel free to let me know if I am being vague. You would only need this done if your web/dns/mail servers are not on the gateway box. If they are...then these are completely unnecessary. There is a much simpler way of just setting up masquerading.=20 And if you look at the ipchains HOWTO at the very end are 3 lines that will do the same ipfwadm used to do.=20 I can also just send you what I have...Works great. I also have dhcpd set up so that machines behind my hub get an IP and do their thing. I have Mediaone as well. Here is the simple way of doing it: (if you have one linux box as the gateway running 2.0.x kernels) ipfwadm -F -p deny ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.1.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 =20 This assumes that you have set up your second nic card as 192.168.1.0/24 If you decide to upgrade your kernel to 2.2.5 again then use: ipchains -P forward DENY ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0 =20 This does the same thing. Chuck _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8051408588087160186==-- From yvon.vodounon@wanadoo.fr Sun Apr 11 22:13:08 1999 From: yvon.vodounon@wanadoo.fr To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] DHCLIENT config under SuSE 5.3 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:13:08 +0200 Message-ID: <37111E74.39B09669@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1805046216485710643==" --===============1805046216485710643== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I was using SuSE connected to the ISP over isdn and everything worked perfect. But I can now have a permanent connection with a cable ISP provider, but I can't manage configure this connection. I am connected to my new ISP through a cable modem connected to an ethernet card in my linux box. I download the dhclient rpm from SuSE and installed it. First time, the connection comes up but I couldn't fetch my mail using fetchmailrc file I am using for long time with the isdn connection. The ethernet card was previously connected to a hub for my home LAN with IP address like 10.0.0.98. I've got a message like SMTP connection failed to my linux box. Then I wanted to check the configuration of the ether card. Now only the isdn connection is working but I can't fetch mail using fetchmail. How I have to configure ethernet card ?, with YaST or not? (my ISP provides dynamic IP) With YaST, I have to fill in IP address for the ethernet card, which may not match the dynamic IP I will be givenby the ISP DHCP server. Thanks for every help. --=20 -------------------- Yvon VODOUNON - 156, Avenue Boll=C3=A9e - 72000 Le Mans - FRANCE - -------------------- Linux user.=20 ---------------------------------------- email me at - ---------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1805046216485710643==-- From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Sun Apr 11 22:18:01 1999 From: chuckwm_98@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.5 kernel compile Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:18:01 -0700 Message-ID: <19990411221801.29591.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] 2.2.5 kernel compile> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7225550882529720269==" --===============7225550882529720269== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not sure if this will help or not but here goes: I am running 2.2.5 and it seems to work ok(knock on wood) with the 6.0 dist. I see that there are a few things that are supposed to be upgraded...I do not know however how to change a .tgz to a .spm so that it upgrades them properly. I know there are things spread out over my system and I do not have the time to look around for everything...I know...lazy I guess...I just don't have time to work on my own system...At work I install everything via .tgz files and make sure I upgrade the same way...At home I want to learn how to use the .rpm and .spm so that it is "easier?" ;) Chuck _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7225550882529720269==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sun Apr 11 23:05:09 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] lib file Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:05:09 +0200 Message-ID: <37112AA5.45937B20@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <3710FE21.A52616FA@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5321450109710823224==" --===============5321450109710823224== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ben Rosenberg wrote: >=20 > Hello all, >=20 > I have downloaded and compiled every libjpeg package I can find...and > none of them come with this file..can someone point me at a tar.gz > package that has it for sure...at this point I need to be treated like a > 6 year old..*sigh* >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > libjpeg.so.62: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Do you have a libjpeg.so.62.0.0 somewhere?=20 (Use 'ldsoconfig -NXvp | less') If so, make a link to libjpeg.so,=20 else get the following sources ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/j= peg/jpegsrc.v6b.tar.gz> These are the original sources and they give you libjpeg.so.62 For compilation of other packages to find exactly _this_ library you should, however, ensure that no other libjpeg stuff (libraries and header files) are lurking around on your system. Before compiling libjpeg, scan your /usr/X11/lib/ and /usr/X11/include and /usr/X11/bin trees for libjpeg stuff. Names of files installed by make install include: .../bin/cjpeg djpeg jpegtran rdjpgcom wrjpgcom .../include/jconfig.h jpeglib.h jmorecfg.h jerror.h .../lib/libjpeg.a libjpeg.la libjpeg.so* For configure use --prefix=3D/usr. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5321450109710823224==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sun Apr 11 23:11:02 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.5 kernel compile Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:11:02 +0200 Message-ID: <37112C06.CDE65CBE@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <199904111004.LAA29394@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1212788519439223926==" --===============1212788519439223926== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard wrote: >=20 > Hello >=20 > I've been using..... make menuconfig make dep make clean > make bzIamge make modules make modules_install. Should I put > the make clean at the end of the list of instructions ? This is the right order.=20 You can do it at the end, too, but then you will LOOSE=20 your freshly built System.map file. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1212788519439223926==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Sun Apr 11 23:14:16 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ICQ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:14:16 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1365247485678667014==" --===============1365247485678667014== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11 Apr 1999, Graham Murray wrote: > The java ICQ is *not* the only ICQ which works on Linux. Licq works > perfectly well and is designed for Linux. If you look at Freshmeat you > will find other ICQ programs as well. > -- True. There's also an Linux ICQ page where you can get information on the many different Linux ICQ varients including GTK, QT, and console based ICQ clients.=20 _____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- M i c h a e l J o h n s o n -=20 e r o s @ a n d u i n . e l d a r . o r g P o w e r e d by L I N U X : K E R N E L 2 . 2 . 5 Please support Free Software and Open Source !!=20 ____________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1365247485678667014==-- From bushman@btinternet.com Sun Apr 11 23:17:40 1999 From: bushman@btinternet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Help - Internet Connection Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:17:40 +0100 Message-ID: <37112D94.8C720886@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6653697055587765979==" --===============6653697055587765979== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, My thanks for the several helpful replies to my little problem. I have decided on the WVDIAL route as it looks idiot-proof. The only snag now is a message saying the kernel doesn't support ppp!!!!!!!!!!!!! I rather think my earlier attempts to connect to the Net have caused some "trifling" difficulties - like a major meltdown somewhere - nothing that a reinstall won't cure :-). All part of the learning process...........good to know there's help so close at hand; again, many thanks. Bushman. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6653697055587765979==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 11 23:21:41 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help - Internet connection. Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:21:41 -0500 Message-ID: <37112E85.B1F2C538@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3710E6B0.F2923432@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2251498758213348132==" --===============2251498758213348132== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bushman wrote: >=20 > Hi people, >=20 > As a complete newbie to Windows not so very long ago, setting up my > Internet connection was no problem. Now, as a Linux newbie, I wish I > could say the same :-) >=20 > Can anyone tell me, in 5 lines or less, how I go about setting up my > connection, or point me to an idiot-proof program that will make this a > simple process - bearing in mind that editing scripts, etc. is beyond my > meagre talents. I use KDE as my preferred GUI, so anything I can run on > this to solve my problem would be ideal. >=20 > My thanks in anticipation. >=20 > Bushman. >=20 In only one line: KDE has a program, Kppp, that is almost identical in operation to Windows "dial" program. If you need help for the settings let us know... --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2251498758213348132==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 11 23:26:33 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] lib file Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:26:33 -0500 Message-ID: <37112FA9.AB85C001@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3710FE21.A52616FA@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0122628365644476331==" --===============0122628365644476331== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ben Rosenberg wrote: >=20 > Hello all, >=20 > I have downloaded and compiled every libjpeg package I can find...and > none of them come with this file..can someone point me at a tar.gz > package that has it for sure...at this point I need to be treated like a > 6 year old..*sigh* >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > libjpeg.so.62: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory >=20 > -- > Ben Rosenberg > mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net > "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " > -- it is in my /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib directory, and in /usr/lib/. The jpeg package is on the distribution CD I think... --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0122628365644476331==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 11 23:40:24 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] xterm now iconizes ... Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:40:24 -0500 Message-ID: <371132E8.D3DA1EA9@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2290740697698523022==" --===============2290740697698523022== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, Somewhere along the way, while I was putzing with my KDE environment settings, I changed how xterm pops up. It used to open up onto the desktop. Now it iconizes on the icon bar at the top. I have to click it's pad again to get it to open up on the desktop. I've looked in the KDE Control Center, all the KDE resource files, the dot files in my home directory, and every other file config file I can think of or find, but I can't locate it. Anyone know where it is? --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2290740697698523022==-- From colWilson@bigfoot.com Sun Apr 11 23:44:30 1999 From: colWilson@bigfoot.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2 not compiling Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:44:30 +0200 Message-ID: <199904112344.BAA02496@server.wilson.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4849861513463898670==" --===============4849861513463898670== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone here seen the output from make menuconfig of.. make: *** No rule to make target 'arch/i386/Makefile'. Stop. I'm new to this bit. --=20 Col Wilson -o) 41372 Niederkruechten-Elmpt /\\ Germany _\_v The penguins are coming... the penguins are coming... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4849861513463898670==-- From emarch@enteract.com Mon Apr 12 00:13:44 1999 From: emarch@enteract.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] libc5 and libc6 on suse 6.0? Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:13:44 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3710FB1B.3C22D8DF@tripnet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6119277938566412936==" --===============6119277938566412936== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=20 Im trying to write a shareware app (under suse 6.0) and link with=20 libc5 as libc6 - What excatly do i have to so ?=20 In the end i want myapp5 and myapp6 to show=20 ldd myapp5 libc.so.5 -> /lib/libc.so.6 (0x12345) and likewise myapp6 use libc6 =20 is this possibel under suse 6.0 easily ? thanks.. Best Regards,=20 Ed //------------------------------------------------------------------------ // Edward March Jr. WB9RAA -- Mt. Prospect, IL =20 // // ***> http://www.enteract.com/~emarch> // ***> http://www.bmtmicro.com/catalog/c= lone.html> // // Win95 or Better, I chose better!=20 // I Run OS/2 Warp 3.0 & 4.0 and Linux S.u.S.E. 5.3 and 6.0 //------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6119277938566412936==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Mon Apr 12 00:16:13 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ICQ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:16:13 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] ICQ> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0305983684011046925==" --===============0305983684011046925== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Linux ICQ page: http://www.portup.com/~gyandl/icq/> On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Robert Copelan wrote: > Michael, > Do you know the web address for the page you mentioned? > Robert >=20 > > From: Michael Johnson , on 4/11/99 8:08 PM: > > =20 > > On 11 Apr 1999, Graham Murray wrote: > > > The java ICQ is *not* the only ICQ which works on Linux. Licq works > > > perfectly well and is designed for Linux. If you look at Freshmeat you > > > will find other ICQ programs as well. > > > -- > > True. There's also an Linux ICQ page where you can get information on the > > many different Linux ICQ varients including GTK, QT, and console based I= CQ > > clients.=20 >=20 _____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- M i c h a e l J o h n s o n -=20 e r o s @ a n d u i n . e l d a r . o r g P o w e r e d by L I N U X : K E R N E L 2 . 2 . 5 Please support Free Software and Open Source !!=20 ____________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0305983684011046925==-- From norrisd@gti.net Mon Apr 12 00:19:54 1999 From: norrisd@gti.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] printerf rustration Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:19:54 -0400 Message-ID: <99041120285700.00433@Egad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4650375765639878009==" --===============4650375765639878009== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I upgraded the suse - 6.0 kernel to 2.2.5, and mostly all was successful. I have read all I could find on 'howtoprint' in the CD's and on the net but I can't see my printer. I had the printer working from suse 5.2.=20 I had to recompile my first install of v 6.0 to get PPP, but the=20 printer would not operate. I have parport installed and checked printer support on kernel config; lsmod shows parport and lp present, however, ' lp [autoclean] not used ' cat to /dev/lp0 or1= =20 or 2 gives me Operation not supported by this device. Any suggestions? Dick -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4650375765639878009==-- From emarch@enteract.com Mon Apr 12 00:22:55 1999 From: emarch@enteract.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Nedit accelerator keys Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:22:55 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3710EF4C.2EA40763@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6277051446863724640==" --===============6277051446863724640== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is probably not the group to ask. so sorry in advance. But my suse 5.3 box has nedit installed ans=3Dd so does my=20 suse 6.0 laptop. Now nedit on the 5.3 has acceleratos keys for file open goto line number ect... and the suse 6.0 machine has the same nedit 5.0.2 march 11 1998 and yet the accelertor keys are not there. i check the .nedit file the .Xdefaults etc.. and nothing has anythig like nedit in them. PLUS - i cant get this to work on the 6.0 laptop, any ideas here is my .Xdefaults file tail end. THIS WORKS FINE BELOW nedit*text.highlightBackground: red nedit*text.selectBackground: lightblue nedit*text.selectForeground: white nedit*text.cursorForeground: darkgreen !This works below=20 nedit*searchMenu.gotoLineNumber.acceleratorText: Alt+G nedit*fileMenu.open.acceleratorText: Alt+E THIS DOES NOT WORK ?? ! WHY?? nedit*searchMenu.gotoLineNumber.accelerator: Altg nedit*fileMenu.open.accelerator: Alte The ALT+E / ALT+G keys show up in the pull down menus but when typed do not work !! weird huh?? I know you all use emacs ! :) but any nedit help would be appreciated. =20 Best Regards,=20 Ed //------------------------------------------------------------------------ // Edward March Jr. WB9RAA -- Mt. Prospect, IL =20 // // ***> http://www.enteract.com/~emarch> // ***> http://www.bmtmicro.com/catalog/c= lone.html> // // Win95 or Better, I chose better!=20 // I Run OS/2 Warp 3.0 & 4.0 and Linux S.u.S.E. 5.3 and 6.0 //------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6277051446863724640==-- From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr 12 00:52:14 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] time zone question Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:52:14 -0700 Message-ID: <199904120052.RAA03959@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: <199904110200.WAA02725@swanage.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2844092609051890175==" --===============2844092609051890175== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10 Apr, dproc(a)dol.net wrote: >=20 > We just switched to DST in the US this week and I asked myself the same > question. There is a great explanation in the SAG (on your CD somewhere un= der > LDP) . >=20 > However the answer is reboot your machine, go into BIOS setup, (or DOS) and > change your hardware clock to the new local time. You will have to do it > again when DST starts. >=20 > This fixed it for me last night - thank you Lars! >=20 > As well as some troubleshooting tips, there is a cleaner alternative in the > SAG which will avoid you doing this in future, if you don't use Windows or > OS/2 on the same platform. >=20 So, let me get this straight. We have a value called timezone in rc. config but exactly what does setting this value accomplish? Here is what I think should happen. I think that timezone should patrol the clock and when time changes it effects a change to the system clock and makes the computer change. I dont specifically know what option you are discussing here; but would like to. I searched a few of the cd's but do not know specifically which one you are discussing. Can you summarize this approach? Rebooting to set the clock on the bios seems rather strange. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2844092609051890175==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 12 01:46:07 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] lib file Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 03:46:07 +0200 Message-ID: <3711505F.BD9A4E36@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <37112FA9.AB85C001@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0399805700766225455==" --===============0399805700766225455== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > Ben Rosenberg wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > I have downloaded and compiled every libjpeg package I can find...and > > none of them come with this file..can someone point me at a tar.gz > > package that has it for sure...at this point I need to be treated like a > > 6 year old..*sigh* > > > > Thanks, > > > > libjpeg.so.62: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > > > -- > > Ben Rosenberg > > mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net > > "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " > > -- >=20 > it is in my /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib directory, and in /usr/lib/. =20 In this case I would recompile it anyway to get a glibc libjpeg. I think, otherwise it won't work with the gnome stuff on a glibc system. > The jpeg package is on the distribution CD I think... He can also use a source rpm from the cd. The sources are pretty old but should be the latest. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0399805700766225455==-- From dproc@dol.net Mon Apr 12 02:37:05 1999 From: dproc@dol.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] time zone question Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:37:05 -0400 Message-ID: <199904120237.WAA03623@swanage> In-Reply-To: <199904120052.RAA03959@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1685096866920860661==" --===============1685096866920860661== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are two options in rc.config One is LOCALTIME, which is either blank or "GMT". GMT is the nicest and cleanest, it means you will never have to change the ti= me in CMOS, until your government changes the rule for finding the start and = end of daylight saving. With this the kernel does exactly as you say. It changes the local time read by the kernel clock (for example > date) whenever daylight saving comes into effect - without any intervention. This is where "timezone" comes in. This should survive as many reboots as you want. The hardware clock always shows GMT. But the disadvantage of this is that it is not compatible with DOS, or many other systems, which expect the hardware clock to show local time. So the kernel programmers (and the SuSEconfig team) allow the hardware clock to show the local time, so as to play nicely with DOS. The kernel then notices when daylight saving starts, and reduces the offset used at boot for calulating the kernel system time. For example, going from EST (Eastern USA) to EDT, you go from -0500 to -0400. If the CMOS clock is changed (by someone) to the new local time, Linux* will continue to boot and run correctly. A very neat solution to a thorny problem. But the catch is, someone has to set the clock to the new local time. If you boot Windows*, Windows will do it for you. Then you boot Linux and all is well - only because Linux doesn't do it for you. If Linux did what you suggest, your clock would end up 2 hours forward, and you would have very dark mornings! If you never use any other OS, go to YaST and change LOCALTIME to GMT. And please read the "System Administrator's Guide" about rebooting and using the BIOS - I did not just make it up! Did I explain myself better this time? dproc * do I really have to write this trademark stuff? Linux is a registered trademark of Linux Torvalds. Windows is a registered trademark or trademark of Microsoft. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1685096866920860661==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Mon Apr 12 02:43:46 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] lib file Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:43:46 -0500 Message-ID: <37115DE2.FCE7BE4F@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <3711505F.BD9A4E36@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0670205969634782889==" --===============0670205969634782889== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, The files on the 6.0 cd are libjpeg.so.6.0.1 so I would have to insta= ll new ones..I am downloading the package that Henning suggested, but I seem to remember downloading it as well and it did nothing, I will give it another shot..if someone has an rpm that will work..shoot me the url. laters and thanks,=20 hhv wrote: >=20 > Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > > > > Ben Rosenberg wrote: > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I have downloaded and compiled every libjpeg package I can find...and > > > none of them come with this file..can someone point me at a tar.gz > > > package that has it for sure...at this point I need to be treated like a > > > 6 year old..*sigh* > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > libjpeg.so.62: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > > > > > -- > > > Ben Rosenberg > > > mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net > > > "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " > > > -- > > > > it is in my /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib directory, and in /usr/lib/. >=20 > In this case I would recompile it anyway to get a glibc libjpeg. > I think, otherwise it won't work with the gnome stuff on a glibc system. >=20 > > The jpeg package is on the distribution CD I think... >=20 > He can also use a source rpm from the cd. The sources are pretty old > but should be the latest. >=20 > Henning >=20 > -- > H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0670205969634782889==-- From mlmayo@texas.net Mon Apr 12 02:52:36 1999 From: mlmayo@texas.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Java ICQ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:52:36 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5112539618888074837==" --===============5112539618888074837== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I've been trying to set up the "official" Java ICQ so I can register, get an ICQ# and experiment with one of the many other ICQ's for Linux. I have installed jdk-1.1.7 form the SuSE 6.0 CD set and I am now trying to edit the install script to point to JAVA_HOME. Could someone please point me to java home. I found what appears to be the executable in=20 /usr/lib/jdk1.1.7/bin/i686/native_threads/java but when I try it ICQ complains of not finding the exececutable. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mike=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5112539618888074837==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 12 03:02:22 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] lib file Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:02:22 +0200 Message-ID: <3711623E.3C824104@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <37115DE2.FCE7BE4F@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7383390337923104017==" --===============7383390337923104017== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ben Rosenberg wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > The files on the 6.0 cd are libjpeg.so.6.0.1 so I would have to ins= tall > new ones..I am downloading the package that Henning suggested, but I > seem to remember downloading it as well and it did nothing, I will give > it another shot..if someone has an rpm that will work..shoot me the url. Well, here is one: ftp://contr= ib.redhat.com/libc6/SRPMS/libjpeg-6b-7.src.rpm> But don't if there's a difference as compared to Suse rpms. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7383390337923104017==-- From jimo@eskimo.com Mon Apr 12 03:28:03 1999 From: jimo@eskimo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: time zone question Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:28:03 -0700 Message-ID: <199904120328.UAA20349@eskimo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9065453294033786169==" --===============9065453294033786169== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Perry wonders: >So, let me get this straight. We have a value called timezone in >rc.config but exactly what does setting this value accomplish? It sets up a symlink, in my case: /etc/localtime -> /usr/lib/zoneinfo/US/Pacific and probably some other things like that, that let your machine know what time zone you're in. > Here is what I think should happen. I think that timezone should >patrol the clock and when time changes it effects a change to the >system clock and makes the computer change.=20 When I first set up my machine, I set the date using the most accurate time I had handy (the cable TV schedule). That set the system clock, the software clock. Then I manually syncronized the computer's hardware clock using the command: hwclock --systohc which writes the system clock to the hardware one. I like "hwclock" over "clock" because its name is more explicit. I think they do the same things, with different syntax. Then I added a line in /root/bin/cron.daily.local that says: /sbin/hwclock --systohc and every night the system time is written to the hardware clock. There are adjustment strategies discussed in the Howto, I believe, that can keep the system clock very accurate. The hardware clock will never be very accurate, but should keep you reasonable between reboots. >Rebooting to set the clock on the bios seems rather strange. Oh, please... :) With luck you should reboot when you change installations, or need to crack the case or something. Cheers, Jim -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9065453294033786169==-- From abrahams@valinet.com Mon Apr 12 03:44:56 1999 From: abrahams@valinet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat [off topic] Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:44:56 -0500 Message-ID: <37116C38.60E9FA25@valinet.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8347510876951444942==" --===============8347510876951444942== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jon Trygve Utne wrote: > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Karsten Johansson wrote: > > > Since SCO is the only Unix with the legal rights to use the name "Unix", = maybe we > > should use *their* directory structure exclusively. > > I don't think this is correct. > > SCO now owns the USL (Unix Systems Laboratories) which they purchased from > Novell. This in turn means that SCO owns the SystemV code. > If you want to use sysV code in your OS, you'll have to license it from > SCO. > > Unix, however, is a registered trademark of The Open Group > (www.opengroup.org). > Every OS that gets a Unix95 or UNIX98 brand from the Open Group, are > entitled to use "Unix" as part of their product name. > That's why Compaq can name their OS "Tru64 Unix". > > To read more about the Unix brand and the Single Unix Specification, > take a look at this site: > > http://www.UNIX-systems.org/> I wonder why Linux isn't "branded". Is it because Linux fails some technical conformance criterion or is it because no one wants to put up the money to ge= t the brand? Paul Abrahams -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8347510876951444942==-- From nee@telekurs.com Mon Apr 12 03:49:47 1999 From: nee@telekurs.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Internet connection Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:49:47 +0800 Message-ID: <37116D5B.E4017763@telekurs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1626580205933954898==" --===============1626580205933954898== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm currently running Suse 6.0 on my intel machine. I tried using the kppp program to setup my connection with the ISP. Everything seem to work fine. The modem manage to get connected to the ras server @ the ISP but when i tried to ping the host there was no respond. Please advice me on these. Emmanuel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1626580205933954898==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Mon Apr 12 03:51:23 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:51:23 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37117353.7B906FF7@valinet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6762575249644751635==" --===============6762575249644751635== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Paul W. Abrahams wrote: > I wonder - is Qmail capable of displaying HTML-formatted messages? That's > the one reason I have for using the Netscape mailer. If not for that, I'd > be using the Emacs mail reader. >=20 > Paul Abrahams Qmail is comparable to Sendmail or Postfix, it works behind the scenes. It is not a mail client for reading messages. =20 M i c h a e l J o h n s o n -=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6762575249644751635==-- From abrahams@valinet.com Mon Apr 12 03:51:52 1999 From: abrahams@valinet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] time zone question Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:51:52 -0500 Message-ID: <37116DD8.4AF9DED0@valinet.com> In-Reply-To: <19990411040339.AAA7357@mail3.stny.rr.com@machina.stny.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4700748546087518658==" --===============4700748546087518658== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One thing I've wondered about: if you're running two systems (in different partitions) that do Daylight Savings Time adjustments (Linux and Win98, say), how do you prevent the adjustment from being done twice? Paul Abrahams -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4700748546087518658==-- From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr 12 04:11:57 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: time zone question Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:11:57 -0700 Message-ID: <199904120411.VAA00681@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: <199904120328.UAA20349@eskimo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4704322140097943742==" --===============4704322140097943742== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11 Apr, Jim Osborn wrote: >=20 > > Oh, please... :) With luck you should reboot when you change > installations, or need to crack the case or something. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 I tend to agree hence the comment. I decided to take a look at things so reset the bios clock to GMT. I then went into rc.config and used the gmt switch and defined the timezone as PST8PDT. Upon rebooting, my system has the correct time. I am somewhat unsure what this will mean for me down the road. But it seems okay. So another timezoneish question comes to mind. Lets say you have a laptop and manage to travel from San Francisco/Oakland to Chicago to see some well known tradeshow out there (comdex comes to mind :)). The laptop is running suse 6 also. So I am crossing a few timezones to get to Chicago. What is the elegant way to deal with this on the laptop. I would think resetting the bios to gmt and then managing the timezone variable would be easy. But this requires a reboot or so the timezone thingee says. What do others do that travel? Just curious here. Do others not deal with timezone variations when they travel with a suseified laptop? --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4704322140097943742==-- From abrahams@valinet.com Mon Apr 12 04:15:15 1999 From: abrahams@valinet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:15:15 -0500 Message-ID: <37117353.7B906FF7@valinet.com> In-Reply-To: <19990411081603.A24961@griend.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4396075679907643608==" --===============4396075679907643608== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cees van de Griend wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 06:34:02PM +0200, Michael Hasenstein wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Cees van de Griend wrote: > > > I prefer Qmail also... > > > > The reason it's not shipped is > > ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/= www/qmail/dist.html> > > > > I know, there's even commercial software on the CD, but that's user > > software, not system software. > > I looked at that page. So what's the problem? > > It said nowhere that you are not allowed to make a .rpm of it. > You only have to keep the files in the 'qmail-standard' directories, > i.e. under /var/qmail. I know that's not the standard, but the author > insists (I must admit rather strongly) on it. > > So once again, what's the problem? > You can find pre-compiled .rpm's on <http://www.qmail.org/>>. > You (SuSE) only have to include them on the CD and let the user decide > what he/she finds more important, security and quick delivery or > installing in the so called 'standard' directories. I wonder - is Qmail capable of displaying HTML-formatted messages? That's the one reason I have for using the Netscape mailer. If not for that, I'd be using the Emacs mail reader. Paul Abrahams -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4396075679907643608==-- From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr 12 04:17:48 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Internet connection Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:17:48 -0700 Message-ID: <199904120417.VAA00731@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: <37116D5B.E4017763@telekurs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6651795152760099515==" --===============6651795152760099515== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12 Apr, Emmanuel wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I'm currently running Suse 6.0 on my intel machine. I tried using the > kppp program to setup my connection with the ISP. Everything seem to > work fine. The modem manage to get connected to the ras server @ the ISP > but when i tried to ping the host there was no respond. Please advice me > on these. >=20 > Emmanuel >=20 > Be sure that you have included the correct data in your /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts file for your particular setup. I think you can have kppp setup your dns stuff if you want. I tend to insert it manually into /etc/resolv.conf. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6651795152760099515==-- From im@hem.passagen.se Mon Apr 12 05:42:34 1999 From: im@hem.passagen.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:42:34 +0200 Message-ID: <371187CA.4474DBD6@hem.passagen.se> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7193324786876991522==" --===============7193324786876991522== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The strange thing is that e while back, when I was using Slackware, it worked fine! And I have a hard time thinking that my PII 266 should be to slow. And it works in Windows... ?????? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7193324786876991522==-- From im@hem.passagen.se Mon Apr 12 05:58:29 1999 From: im@hem.passagen.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:58:29 +0200 Message-ID: <37118B85.B65718D@hem.passagen.se> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Problems with mp3 playback in 6.0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2441339400775511432==" --===============2441339400775511432== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The strange thing about it all is that when i used 2.0.36 i still had the same problem... Even if i run a text console (ie. no X) it still runns too slow... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2441339400775511432==-- From graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 12 06:02:22 1999 From: graham@barnowl.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] libc5 and libc6 on suse 6.0? Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 06:02:22 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3966454818824131213==" --===============3966454818824131213== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Edward March writes: > Hi=20 >=20 > Im trying to write a shareware app (under suse 6.0) and link with=20 > libc5 as libc6 - What excatly do i have to so ?=20 > In the end i want myapp5 and myapp6 to show=20 > ldd myapp5 > libc.so.5 -> /lib/libc.so.6 (0x12345) > and likewise myapp6 use libc6 > =09 > is this possibel under suse 6.0 easily ? Not easily. It is the compiler and its environment which determine whether you are building a libc5 or libc6 application. SuSe 6 comes with the runtime libc5 libraries but not (correctly IMHO) the development environment to build them. If you want to do this, you would have to install of cross-compiler whose target is a libc5 system. This is not a trivial operation. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3966454818824131213==-- From scavengr@jasper.knox.net Mon Apr 12 06:08:01 1999 From: scavengr@jasper.knox.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] INIt: "mo" Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:08:01 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2154272348542715089==" --===============2154272348542715089== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable heya pulling an error msg that i cnat track down... INIT: Id "mom" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes i've looked through all the config files i can think of and cant find anything that would effect this way....anyone have any suggestions for a course of action??? also, everytime i send a fax using susefax, i get a write permission error to FIFO, im running as root so there shouldn't be any permission conflicts thanx in advance, scav. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2154272348542715089==-- From brun@tagliamento.sci.uniud.it Mon Apr 12 07:28:01 1999 From: brun@tagliamento.sci.uniud.it To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: No Subject Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:28:01 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8185054248895505298==" --===============8185054248895505298== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8185054248895505298==-- From sudheer@easi.soft.net Mon Apr 12 07:46:26 1999 From: sudheer@easi.soft.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Symbolic links vs. hard link Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:16:26 +0530 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990411075628.A926@datapro.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5712720957836592274==" --===============5712720957836592274== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Say files A & B. If you create a hard link to file A as B,then B points to the same inode as that of A.ie. you can say B as another name for file A.now even if you delete file A,B is intact. you can see or modify the contents that were in A through B as well. Suppose you create a symbolic link to A, say C.then C just contain the name of the file A,that's all.when you try to edit the file C,internally it fetches the file A.In this case if you delete A,the contents are completely lost.now again if yoyu try to open file C,it will open A as if its a new one. The main advantage of having sym-link is that you can have a link between files lying on different file systems,which is not=20 allowed incase of hard links. hope this may help you to some extent. udheer On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Steve Crane wrote: >=20 > On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 09:49:06PM -0500, Raul Beltran wrote: > > ln -s > >=20 > > the '-s' option creates a symbolic link instead of a hard link. >=20 > I've often wondered just what is meant by 'symbolic link' and 'hard > link'. The man page for ln mentions, but doesn't explain them. Can > someone explain the difference or point me to some docs that do explain > the difference. >=20 > --=20 > Steve Crane > stevec(a)netlane.com > http://www.datapro.co.za/~stevec> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5712720957836592274==-- From ales@trend.si Mon Apr 12 08:18:18 1999 From: ales@trend.si To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ASUS ISDN 2.2.5 kernel Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:18:18 +0200 Message-ID: <3711AC4A.D056B139@trend.si> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4174978874905460982==" --===============4174978874905460982== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After installing kernel 2.2.x on SuSE6.0 ISDN with ASUS card will not work. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4174978874905460982==-- From jont@ii.uib.no Mon Apr 12 08:20:32 1999 From: jont@ii.uib.no To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat [off topic] Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:20:32 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37116C38.60E9FA25@valinet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2292472951172774446==" --===============2292472951172774446== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Paul W. Abrahams wrote: > I wonder why Linux isn't "branded". Is it because Linux fails some technic= al > conformance criterion or is it because no one wants to put up the money to = get the > brand? Here are three URLs concerning the Unix98 question: http://lwn.net/lwn/980611/s= tandardseditorial.html> http= ://lwn.net/980604/> http://www.= UNIX-systems.org/market_information/may29.html> They should give you a picture of what this is about. ;-) ---J.T.U. #include \\|// - ? (o o) /=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DoOOO=3D(_)=3DOOOo=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D\ | Jon Trygve Utne |e-mail: jont(a)ii.uib.no | | Department of Informatics | Jon.Utne(a)mi.uib.no | | University of Bergen | Jon.Utne(a)student.uib.no | | NORWAY | | | Tlf: |"Smith & Wesson: The original|=20 | Home: +47 55 13 06 13 | point and click interface" | | Work: +47 55 58 40 39 | | | URL: http://www.ii.uib.no/~jont> | = | | .oooO | | ( ) Oooo. | \=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D\ (=3D=3D( )=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D/ \_) ) / (_/ =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2292472951172774446==-- From paspartu@uni.net Mon Apr 12 08:51:23 1999 From: paspartu@uni.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Redhat vs. SuSE [xfstt] Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:51:23 +0200 Message-ID: <99041210550600.00483@kamikazen> In-Reply-To: <19990411200959.20305.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8806609849097319665==" --===============8806609849097319665== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On dom, 11 apr 1999, Raul Beltran wrote: > Hello, I have been using redhat 5.2 and i've found it to get slow when=20 > I run about 5 apps at the same time. Specifically, I run first x11amp,=20 > that works great, then I start, say 2 kwrite editors, an xterm to=20 > compile, and everything goes OK, but if i run another app, the x11amp=20 > gets jumpy... I think that shouldnt happen. I'd like to know if it=20 > will be the same history under SuSE... or maybe a kernel upgrade will=20 > help? >=20 > I have an AMD-K6 300 Mhz, 64M Ram, SB AWE64, kernel 2.0.36, running=20 > WindowMaker >=20 > and another question...=20 > I just installed xfstt, and now I would like to know what is the best=20 > way to start it automatically for all users... Put the included script into /sbin/init.d then make a couple of soft link in rc2.d and rc3.d to handle the start and st= op of the server. Ciao, Maurizio #! /bin/bash # # Author: Maurizio Firmani , 1998 # # # /sbin/init.d/xfstt # # Start or Stop the X True Type Font Server .. /etc/rc.config DAEMON=3D/usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt OPTIONS=3D"--port 7101" PIDFILE=3D/var/run/xfstt.pid xttpid=3D0 # The echo return value as defined in /etc/rc.config return=3D$rc_done xttrun () { test -s $PIDFILE && xttpid=3D"`cat $PIDFILE`" pidof -s $DAEMON >/dev/null && return 0 return 1 } case "$1" in start) if xttrun ; then echo "Warning: $DAEMON is already running" ps cux$xttpid else test -z "$RE" && echo -n "Starting X TrueType font server: $DAEMON..= . " $DAEMON $OPTIONS & test -z "$RE" && echo -e "$return" fi ;; stop) if xttrun ; then test -z "$RE" && echo -n "Shutting down $DAEMON... " kill -TERM $xttpid=20 test -z "$RE" && echo -e "$return" fi ;; restart|reload) export RE=3Dyes echo -n "Restarting $DAEMON... " $0 stop sleep 1 $0 start echo -e "$return" ;; check) echo -n "Checking $DAEMON ... " if xttrun ; then echo "is running" ps cux$xttpid else echo "is NOT running" fi ;; *) echo "Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart|check}" exit 1 esac exit 0 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8806609849097319665==-- From paspartu@uni.net Mon Apr 12 08:55:23 1999 From: paspartu@uni.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Xemacs background Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:55:23 +0200 Message-ID: <99041211003301.00483@kamikazen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3932511177055387009==" --===============3932511177055387009== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How can I change the background color in Xemacs? I have a white (very white) background and I want to change it into a less aggressive color, let's say a gray80. I put=20 Emacs.default.attributeBackground: gray80 into ~.Xdefault local emacs background: grey80 both with no success. I read a part of the emacs-docs, but still I have a white background. Boh? Suggestions? TIA Maurizio -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3932511177055387009==-- From EzMan@cableinet.co.uk Mon Apr 12 09:31:09 1999 From: EzMan@cableinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help - Internet connection. Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:31:09 +0100 Message-ID: <3711BD5D.99E7A3CA@cableinet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3710E6B0.F2923432@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3635038939379088961==" --===============3635038939379088961== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable kppp is good and is very similar to the win95 dun applet with suse 6.0 i had problems with kppp, so i had to go back to creating ppp-on and ppp-off scripts read the ppp howto, it'll guide you through setting those scripts up Bushman wrote: > Hi people, > > As a complete newbie to Windows not so very long ago, setting up my > Internet connection was no problem. Now, as a Linux newbie, I wish I > could say the same :-) > > Can anyone tell me, in 5 lines or less, how I go about setting up my > connection, or point me to an idiot-proof program that will make this a > simple process - bearing in mind that editing scripts, etc. is beyond my > meagre talents. I use KDE as my preferred GUI, so anything I can run on > this to solve my problem would be ideal. > > My thanks in anticipation. > > Bushman. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Messageboard -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- http:= //wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/a.fleming/ubb/cgi/Ultimate.cgi> http://www.ezman.ddns.org/> http://come.to/ezboard> -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3635038939379088961==-- From dwj@linuxtoday.com Mon Apr 12 09:51:09 1999 From: dwj@linuxtoday.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Pine question Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:51:09 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3710FB1B.3C22D8DF@tripnet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3249968188294562172==" --===============3249968188294562172== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Tina wrote: > I normally use Netscape for all my mail/news stuff, but I would like to use > pine as an alternative. (I find the console easy on the eyes after a long > day at work). However, I can't get it to work properly. I have a pop3 > account at my isp and it uses pap. Any help and suggestions appreciated. Netscape has a built-in pop3 client and Pine does not. I use fetchmail as my pop3 client. Once you get your .fetchmailrc configured properly, you should be able to enter 'fetchmail -a' at the command line and watch your mail come down. To verify that your mail is down, type in 'less /var/spool/mail/tina' (or whatever the name of your mailbox is), and directly read your mail without a mailreader. At this point, all you need to do is configure Pine. If you can't figure that out, we can take that up in a follow-up mail. Dwight -- http:/= /linuxtoday.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3249968188294562172==-- From dwj@linuxtoday.com Mon Apr 12 10:01:20 1999 From: dwj@linuxtoday.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Redhat vs. SuSE Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 03:01:20 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990411200959.20305.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2036644934014259620==" --===============2036644934014259620== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Raul Beltran wrote: >=20 > Hello, I have been using redhat 5.2 and i've found it to get slow when=20 > I run about 5 apps at the same time. Specifically, I run first x11amp,=20 > that works great, then I start, say 2 kwrite editors, an xterm to=20 > compile, and everything goes OK, but if i run another app, the x11amp=20 > gets jumpy... I think that shouldnt happen. I'd like to know if it=20 > will be the same history under SuSE... or maybe a kernel upgrade will=20 > help? >=20 > I have an AMD-K6 300 Mhz, 64M Ram, SB AWE64, kernel 2.0.36, running=20 > WindowMaker I have run both Red Hat and SuSE and I have not noticed any speed performance difference between them. The problem you are having suggests that you are running out of RAM and your box is having to go to swap. Open 'top' in an xterm and watch what happens as you open applications. An alternative suggestion is to try another wm such as fvwm to see if performance changes. Finally, there is nothing like a fresh boot of your box to make sure you don't have something happening on it that you don't know about that could be degrading performance. Dwight -- http:/= /linuxtoday.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2036644934014259620==-- From neonatus@slo.net Mon Apr 12 10:05:01 1999 From: neonatus@slo.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] error in loading shared libraries Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:05:01 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3417537379355122896==" --===============3417537379355122896== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have the following problem: When I try to execute some programes (kde, qps,...) in Linux I get the follow= ing error: qps: error in loading shared libraries : undefined symbol: __ti7QWidget Could someone explain it to me whic libraries are corrupted and how to repair the error if possible? 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Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNxHhaFLaN4+QF429AQH9LQf/Za4vaYewLEyCp1ATddlzkHhmTAEfD2zl vPfVLLaOqFfcgKaR7HbenkdIY+my71XNmA1qp/batVHHZcovdIyGFLz4meCcERYU NMa4ojvFdxHpCV2yI+ATazO3U1odYNF2L5peMV/1di8x5ztfjXTb+dObgAMBDnEi +J1JMR86pL19++o0ZrV1gTjv9kH0g4YhhsvwsQZJGzIakbJcpl2mLya51mLSsE64 eh9zqNAzWzxiPCBcgY3YjJTu+iTYUWPVmMyF1xF6okblL8P2RywFtMrq6isV3gly EESgLWtkCCgj3aN299DES6ECmh8I51elLEMd6glO+KSddsOgKd+Plw=3D=3D =3D50sE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3417537379355122896==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Apr 12 10:18:30 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Nedit accelerator keys Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:18:30 +0200 Message-ID: <19990412121830.A440@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8451864527587565750==" --===============8451864527587565750== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 19:22 -0500, Edward March wrote: > Now nedit on the 5.3 has acceleratos keys for file open > goto line number ect... and the suse 6.0 machine has the same > nedit 5.0.2 march 11 1998 and yet the accelertor keys are not > there. An `rm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/NEdit' will fix that. Ciao, Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8451864527587565750==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Apr 12 10:27:41 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] time zone question Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:27:41 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37116DD8.4AF9DED0@valinet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0369162575180775044==" --===============0369162575180775044== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Paul W. Abrahams wrote: > One thing I've wondered about: if you're running two systems (in > different partitions) that do Daylight Savings Time adjustments (Linux > and Win98, say), how do you prevent the adjustment from being done > twice? The Timezone does not mess with your system clock, it just defines the offset to GMT and also takes care of DST settings. So you just have to make sure, that you have set the correct timezone and set the system clock to GMT. That should be it! Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0369162575180775044==-- From tajc@goes.com Mon Apr 12 10:31:39 1999 From: tajc@goes.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] whir, whir, whirrrr Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 06:31:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3711CB8B.6DD14A15@goes.com> In-Reply-To: <199904110255.TAA14507@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7843877819004224588==" --===============7843877819004224588== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also got wvdial to work this weekend. Seems to be connected but I can't "go= " anywhere in any app. Tried via Netscape and one of the xftp's and lynx. I don't recall the exact error messages but somet= hing to the effect that it can't find the server. I noticed that the primary and secondary dns numbers were not the sam= e as I use when setting up in Windows. I saved logged the dial up sessions and thought I put them in a fat partition b= ut can't locate it. I don't have time to boot to linux this a.m., i'll get the exact messages tonight. Tim tf wrote: > hey all > > Well, by following my isp's advice, and using wvdial, I can actually connec= t with Linux (yee haw). > Problems: I'm not sure how to setup XFmail. Plus, running the Netscape 4.= 5 (off the cd) is a pain.. any action I > take is followed by my hd spinning its head off, with no other results. I = wound up killing x to escape. sounded like > a lawn mower. > > can I fix that? > > -tf > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7843877819004224588==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Mon Apr 12 10:31:59 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Redhat vs. SuSE Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:31:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3711CB9F.D7EB5103@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7528695534576195859==" --===============7528695534576195859== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dwight Johnson wrote: >=20 > On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Raul Beltran wrote: >=20 > > > > Hello, I have been using redhat 5.2 and i've found it to get slow when > > I run about 5 apps at the same time. Specifically, I run first x11amp, > > that works great, then I start, say 2 kwrite editors, an xterm to > > compile, and everything goes OK, but if i run another app, the x11amp > > gets jumpy... I think that shouldnt happen. I'd like to know if it > > will be the same history under SuSE... or maybe a kernel upgrade will > > help? > > > > I have an AMD-K6 300 Mhz, 64M Ram, SB AWE64, kernel 2.0.36, running > > WindowMaker >=20 > I have run both Red Hat and SuSE and I have not noticed any speed > performance difference between them. >=20 > The problem you are having suggests that you are running out of RAM > and your box is having to go to swap. Open 'top' in an xterm and watch > what happens as you open applications. >=20 > An alternative suggestion is to try another wm such as fvwm to see if > performance changes. >=20 > Finally, there is nothing like a fresh boot of your box to make sure > you don't have something happening on it that you don't know about > that could be degrading performance. >=20 Also, check and see if you have things like apache and sendmail running .. if you are not using them..disable them. Somethings that load and start by default could be hindering performence. You can comment out most of the stuff you don't use, and don't forget about that little file called inetd.conf, start by stopping things this from running that your not using. laters, --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7528695534576195859==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Apr 12 10:35:40 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: time zone question Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:35:40 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904120411.VAA00681@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3885683647675233211==" --===============3885683647675233211== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Michael Perry wrote: > I tend to agree hence the comment. I decided to take a look at things > so reset the bios clock to GMT. I then went into rc.config and used > the gmt switch and defined the timezone as PST8PDT. Upon rebooting, > my system has the correct time. I am somewhat unsure what this will > mean for me down the road. But it seems okay. So another timezoneish > question comes to mind. Lets say you have a laptop and manage to > travel from San Francisco/Oakland to Chicago to see some well known > tradeshow out there (comdex comes to mind :)). The laptop is running > suse 6 also. So I am crossing a few timezones to get to Chicago. =20 > What is the elegant way to deal with this on the laptop. I would > think resetting the bios to gmt and then managing the timezone > variable would be easy. But this requires a reboot or so the timezone > thingee says. What do others do that travel? Just curious here. Do > others not deal with timezone variations when they travel with a > suseified laptop? Hmm, Germany only has one timezone :) SuSEconfig creates a symbolic link /etc/localtime, which points to the selected timezone defined in /etc/rc.config. If you change this link to another timezone, "date" automatically displays the new time. There's no need to reboot. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3885683647675233211==-- From roed@hem.utfors.se Mon Apr 12 10:55:13 1999 From: roed@hem.utfors.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:55:13 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37117353.7B906FF7@valinet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4578021316446573013==" --===============4578021316446573013== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Paul W. Abrahams wrote: > I wonder - is Qmail capable of displaying HTML-formatted messages? That's > the one reason I have for using the Netscape mailer. If not for that, I'd > be using the Emacs mail reader. Qmail is (as I knew) only a mailer, not an editor. - * Linux - ett stabilare s=C3=A4tt att leva * - - * Linux - a more stabile way to live * - -- Mvh Rolf Edlund Tel:070-3049194 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4578021316446573013==-- From roed@hem.utfors.se Mon Apr 12 11:05:49 1999 From: roed@hem.utfors.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SIGHUP ? Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:05:49 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990411134016.B395@BeagleDog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7582187344569135468==" --===============7582187344569135468== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Howard Arons wrote: > Put: > lcp-echo-failure 5 > lcp-echo-interval 2 > in your /etc/ppp/options file. I will have it a try, and se if it would be any difference. Thanks to all help I had with this. Greate to have you all out there! - * Linux - ett stabilare s=C3=A4tt att leva * - - * Linux - a more stabile way to live * - -- Mvh Rolf Edlund Tel:070-3049194 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7582187344569135468==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Mon Apr 12 11:19:02 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] error in loading shared libraries Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 06:19:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3711D6A6.B4362910@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3768661516462118686==" --===============3768661516462118686== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello all, Yeah, I removed KDE using yast..then tried to put it back in..and I g= ot the same error messages about lib files..I just didn't care much about fixing it cause I use WMaker most of the time, but since it's come up..I would be interested as well. thanks, =20 > I have the following problem: > When I try to execute some programes (kde, qps,...) in Linux I get the foll= owing > error: > qps: error in loading shared libraries > : undefined symbol: __ti7QWidget >=20 > Could someone explain it to me whic libraries are corrupted and how to repa= ir > the error if possible? >=20 > THX in advance! >=20 --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3768661516462118686==-- From lrivas@oxiquim.cl Mon Apr 12 11:32:10 1999 From: lrivas@oxiquim.cl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Fwd: [svlug] JobOfr: Intel looking for a Linux dude. Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:32:10 -0200 Message-ID: <83256751.003F507B.00@oxinotes.oxiquim.cl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7692521146993738436==" --===============7692521146993738436== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone interested? Leo ------------- Begin Forwarded Message ------------- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:30:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chris J. DiBona" X-Sender: chris(a)spider.precognitive.com To: svlug(a)svlug.org Subject: [svlug] JobOfr: Intel looking for a Linux dude. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: X-Alternate-URL: http://www.svlug.org> X-Mascot: penguin X-OS: Linux svlug.svlug.org 2.0.30 #3 Thu Aug 14 14:47:34 PDT 1997 i486 unknown See below, placed through Andrew (headhunter). Chris -- Director of Linux Marketing - VA Research Inc. http://www.varesearch.com> Vice President, Silicon Valley Linux Users Group http://w= ww.svlug.org> Webmaster & Grant Chair, Linux International. http://www.li.= org> Tannu Tuva or Bust! whois cjd32 http:/= /www.dibona.com> Linux Sr. Software Engineer positions Please contact: Andrew Duquet, Tel 408.441.2700 Job Description Intel's Microprocessor Labs is looking for a senior Software Engineer to work on system software development for Intel's newest microprocessors, including Merced - Intel's leading edge 64-bit microprocessor. This includes doing actual ports of major operating systems like UNIX and Linux, characterization of their performance, and assisting external OS vendors in their port. Should be able to write startup, memory management and driver code for the OS. Duties will also include debugging problems identified with the most advanced and newest platforms and CPUs. The employee will work out of Dupont, Washington or Santa Clara, California. Dupont based employee must be willing to commute to Santa Clara, as needed. Selling Points: -Gain "big picture" knowledge of leading edge OS, PC platform and chip architecture -Be in the front line of decisions within the OS architecture design, on a number of Operating Systems -Be in the front line of future Microprocessor definition from SW and OS point of view -Be in the front line for problem isolation and workaround for newest processors -Work on Intel's latest generation microprocessors and platforms - good visibility and impact Requirements Ph.D./M.S./B.S. in Computer Science or related field Solid understanding of advanced Operating System architecture. A minimum of 4 years experience in OS internals or device driver development. Excellent debugging skills in identifying Platform, Software and CPU problems. Strong programming skills. Candidate must work well independently as well as in a team. Should require minimal supervision. Good written and verbal communication. Working experience with the Intel architecture as well as competitive computer architectures is a plus. Experience in performance analysis of systems for enterprise applications is an asset. 3 years experience in Object Oriented programming in C++ is desired. Thanks, -Andrew Duquet Tel 408.441.2700 (UUEncoded file named: att-1.htm follows) (Its format is: Internet HTML ) begin 644 att-1.htm M/"0;V-T>7!E(&AT;6P@<'5B;&EC("(M+R]W,V,O+V1T9"!H=3D&UL(#0N,"!T M"!D=3D61E+CPO=3D'0^#0H\8G(^ M/'1T/DU)344M5F5R"!-87)K971I;F<@+2!602!297-E87)C:"!);F,N/"]T=3D#X-"CQB"!);G1E"P(a)8VAA'1E3PO=3D'0^#0H\8G(^/'1T/FUA;F096UE;G0\+W1T/@T*/&)R M/CQT=3D#YA;F0(a)9')I=3DF5R(&-O9&4(a)9F]R('1H92!/4RX(a)1'5T:65S('=3DI;&P@ M86QS;R!I;F-L=3D61E(&1E8G5G9VEN9PT*<')O8FQE;7,\+W1T/@T*/&)R/CQT M=3D#YI9&5N=3D&EF:65D('=3DI=3D&@@=3D&AE(&UO2!A;F0-"FEM<&%C=3D#PO=3D'0^/'1T M/CPO=3D'0^#0H\<#X\=3D'0^4F5Q=3D6ER96UE;G1S/"]T=3D#X\=3D'0^/"]T=3D#X-"CQP M/CQT=3D#Y0:"Y$+B]-+E,N+T(N4RX@:6X(a)0V]M<'5T97(@4V-I96YC92!O65A2!A'!E7-I7-T96US(&9O65A<= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7692521146993738436==-- From rdbraasem@HISCOM.NL Mon Apr 12 11:35:45 1999 From: rdbraasem@HISCOM.NL To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Can't Open Initial Console Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:35:45 +0100 Message-ID: <99Apr12.123300gmt+0100.1611@bastion1.hiscom.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5221707236397982010==" --===============5221707236397982010== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After following the instructions for a loadlin startup I get the following Message Can't Open Initial Console And the startup stops. What's going on. I did have Linux running, but after modifying as suggested it doesn't work anymore. I'm running Win98 instead of Win95, it that the problem ?? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5221707236397982010==-- From kester@cwcom.net Mon Apr 12 11:47:50 1999 From: kester@cwcom.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Pine question Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:47:50 +0100 Message-ID: <003501be84e4$e19682e0$2b0d1280@kester> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Pine question> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1696725739968439715==" --===============1696725739968439715== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I'm trying to use Pine, in desparation, and have two problems: i) when I use fetchmail, it runs incredibly (nay, impossibly) slowly! If I use kmail or netscape, the mails are downloaded at the normal speed. What could be wrong with my setup / .fetchmailrc file? ii) I can't get procmail to process my mail inot different folders as it comes in to /var/spool/mail/kester - I'm not sure about the settings of the environment variables in the .procmailrc file. Any advice / examples out there I could use? k. :Netscape has a built-in pop3 client and Pine does not. I use fetchmail :as my pop3 client. Once you get your .fetchmailrc configured properly, :you should be able to enter 'fetchmail -a' at the command line and :watch your mail come down. To verify that your mail is down, type in :'less /var/spool/mail/tina' (or whatever the name of your mailbox :is), and directly read your mail without a mailreader. : :At this point, all you need to do is configure Pine. If you can't :figure that out, we can take that up in a follow-up mail. : :Dwight :-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1696725739968439715==-- From budr@sirinet.net Mon Apr 12 11:48:51 1999 From: budr@sirinet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 06:48:51 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4154922160658357241==" --===============4154922160658357241== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rolf Edlund writes: > On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Paul W. Abrahams wrote: >=20 > > I wonder - is Qmail capable of displaying HTML-formatted messages? That's > > the one reason I have for using the Netscape mailer. If not for that, I'd > > be using the Emacs mail reader. >=20 > Qmail is (as I knew) only a mailer, not an editor. I missed Paul's posting. The beta version of gnus, Pterodactyl gnus, can handle HTML by calling W3. Pgnus is not perfect yet, but it's pretty good. If you want to try it, I think the URL is http://quimby.gnus.org/dist/pgnus.tar= .gz> --=20 Bud Rogers http://www.sirine= t.net/~budr/zamm.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4154922160658357241==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Apr 12 11:52:56 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Can't Open Initial Console Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:52:56 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99Apr12.123300gmt+0100.1611@bastion1.hiscom.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7933399226334211828==" --===============7933399226334211828== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Braasem den, Rob wrote: > After following the instructions for a loadlin startup I get the > following Message >=20 > Can't Open Initial Console >=20 > And the startup stops. >=20 > What's going on. I did have Linux running, but after modifying as > suggested it doesn't work anymore. >=20 > I'm running Win98 instead of Win95, it that the problem ?? No, that shouldn't be a problem. Make sure, that you provide the correct _root_ partition to boot from. Event though, there's a "boot"-Partition, this is not the one to boot from :) Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7933399226334211828==-- From kester@cwcom.net Mon Apr 12 11:57:17 1999 From: kester@cwcom.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] xterm now iconizes ... Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:57:17 +0100 Message-ID: <003601be84e4$e2785760$2b0d1280@kester> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] xterm now iconizes ...> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1627428641364909304==" --===============1627428641364909304== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have you checked your / system-wide .Xdefaults for the word 'xterm' ?=20 k. -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Lynn Kreps To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 2:14 AM Subject: [SuSE Linux] xterm now iconizes ... : :Hi folks, :Somewhere along the way, while I was putzing with my KDE environment :settings, I changed how xterm pops up. It used to open up onto the :desktop. Now it iconizes on the icon bar at the top. I have to click :it's pad again to get it to open up on the desktop. : :I've looked in the KDE Control Center, all the KDE resource files, the :dot files in my home directory, and every other file config file I can :think of or find, but I can't locate it. : :Anyone know where it is? :--=20 : :JLK :Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is :right. :-- :To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with :this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e :Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the :archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1627428641364909304==-- From Paul.Abraham@infinit.co.uk Mon Apr 12 11:59:48 1999 From: Paul.Abraham@infinit.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Help - Internet connection. Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:59:48 +0100 Message-ID: <51514A89C9A6D111B5A808002BF1930704AEE0@trafalgar> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Help - Internet connection.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2446416781874965359==" --===============2446416781874965359== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In addition to all the other information from other people, take a look at http://www.ppp-services.freeserve.co.uk>= which may give you information on the settings you may need for PPP for your service provider (BT Internet). Sadly I have not found PPP to be "idiot proof". Not having Internet access here at the moment, I can't say that the URL I've given is correct. If it isn't, I expect someone else on the list to correct me! Paul Abraham. -- speaking for myself On 11 Apr, Bushman wrote: >=20 > Hi people, >=20 > As a complete newbie to Windows not so very long ago, setting up my > Internet connection was no problem. Now, as a Linux newbie, I wish I > could say the same :-) >=20 > Can anyone tell me, in 5 lines or less, how I go about setting up my > connection, or point me to an idiot-proof program that will make this a > simple process - bearing in mind that editing scripts, etc. is beyond my > meagre talents. I use KDE as my preferred GUI, so anything I can run on > this to solve my problem would be ideal. >=20 > My thanks in anticipation. >=20 > Bushman. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2446416781874965359==-- From msspal@gbso.net Mon Apr 12 12:08:41 1999 From: msspal@gbso.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] icewm time zone question Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:08:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3711E249.7A5C4C45@gbso.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2699782291621068867==" --===============2699782291621068867== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable can anyone tell me how to make the led clock in the taskbar use local time instead of UTC? xclock shows local time. in the preferences file there are two lines refering to time date format which look like options passed to a time-string header file. not clear as to what to change. TIA, don -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2699782291621068867==-- From kester@cwcom.net Mon Apr 12 12:13:30 1999 From: kester@cwcom.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Xemacs background Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:13:30 +0100 Message-ID: <003701be84e4$e3ae1840$2b0d1280@kester> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Xemacs background> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0201168947992792853==" --===============0201168947992792853== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try posting any xemacs questions to comp.emacs.xemacs; but I think you can use options fromthe toolbar and then 'save options', or you can place the line you have below in your .emacs / .xemacs-options file. M-x list-colors gives you a nice list of colours you can cut and paste. k. -----Original Message----- From: Maurizio Firmani To: SuSE Mailing List Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 10:16 AM Subject: [SuSE Linux] Xemacs background : :How can I change the background color in Xemacs? I have a white (very white) :background and I want to change it into a less aggressive color, let's say a :gray80. :I put :Emacs.default.attributeBackground: gray80 into ~.Xdefault :local emacs background: grey80 :both with no success. :I read a part of the emacs-docs, but still I have a white background. Boh? : :Suggestions? : :TIA : :Maurizio :-- :To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with :this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e :Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the :archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0201168947992792853==-- From brumsey@world-net.co.nz Mon Apr 12 12:58:42 1999 From: brumsey@world-net.co.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] new setup Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:58:42 +1200 Message-ID: <001501be84e4$31996920$9b7760cb@brumsey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3867395851719850417==" --===============3867395851719850417== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Help
I have S.U.S.E 6.0. I have just installed= a new=20 hard drive and motherboard and can not get get windows to work.
My mother board is a Pentium 2 mainboard = ( m747)=20 with a built in high performance 64 bit 3D AGP Graphics Accelerator with 8mb = frame buffer. Can can one tell me how I could set this up please.
B.Rumsey
--===============3867395851719850417==-- From mha@suse.de Mon Apr 12 13:21:25 1999 From: mha@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:21:25 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5906558652293525002==" --===============5906558652293525002== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12 Apr 1999, Bud Rogers wrote: By the way, try postfix (in series n on the CD) as sendmail replacement. I don't know it myself but was told it was written by the SATAN author who was paid by IBM (for a year) to do this, and that it's a great mailer. --=20 Michael Hasenstein
http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/> Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5906558652293525002==-- From Michael.Salmon@uab.ericsson.se Mon Apr 12 13:24:28 1999 From: Michael.Salmon@uab.ericsson.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Root password Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:24:28 +0200 Message-ID: <199904121324.PAA05849@uabs78c65.uab.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990407143615.0095e010@mail.magma.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0689613963350618265==" --===============0689613963350618265== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +----- On Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:37:37 EDT, "Y. Hum" writes: |=20 |=20 |=20 | I have forgotten my root password, can I use the=20 | boot disk to recover ? I believe that you don't need to do that, try using lilo and booting with init=3D/usr/bin/bash (or whatever it has for path). /Michael (or -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0689613963350618265==-- From gcambria@ar.ing.unisi.it Mon Apr 12 13:28:54 1999 From: gcambria@ar.ing.unisi.it To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Auto power-off Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:28:54 +0200 Message-ID: <005d01be84e8$85d85920$0205a8c0@lupoalberto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2242297097280899888==" --===============2242297097280899888== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I 'm not able to auto power off my linux box. I've an ATX PII, kernel 2.2.5 with auto power off option enabled. windoze (bleah!) 9x can do it easily, why my beatyful Linux cannot? Thanx NanniX -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2242297097280899888==-- From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr 12 13:57:21 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 06:57:21 -0700 Message-ID: <199904121357.GAA03274@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2499334330159125579==" --===============2499334330159125579== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12 Apr, Michael Hasenstein wrote: >=20 > On 12 Apr 1999, Bud Rogers wrote: >=20 > By the way, try postfix (in series n on the CD) as sendmail replacement. I > don't know it myself but was told it was written by the SATAN author who > was paid by IBM (for a year) to do this, and that it's a great mailer. >=20 >=20 Does postfix support procmail? I perused their website but saw no definition of this. I would be interested in trying something else but it has to support procmail. Anyone using postfix and procmail? --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2499334330159125579==-- From roed@hem.utfors.se Mon Apr 12 14:10:59 1999 From: roed@hem.utfors.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:10:59 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6094410827106544052==" --===============6094410827106544052== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Bud Rogers wrote: > > Qmail is (as I knew) only a mailer, not an editor. >=20 > I missed Paul's posting. The beta version of gnus, Pterodactyl gnus, can > handle HTML by calling W3. Pgnus is not perfect yet, but it's pretty good. > If you want to try it, I think the URL is >=20 > http://quimby.gnus.org/dist/pgnus.t= ar.gz> Thanks, but for now I'm happy with Pine. - * Linux - ett stabilare s=C3=A4tt att leva * - - * Linux - a more stabile way to live * - -- Mvh Rolf Edlund Tel:070-3049194 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6094410827106544052==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Mon Apr 12 14:29:29 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat [off topic] Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:29:29 -0700 Message-ID: <199904121429.HAA19472@www1.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat [off topic]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1630913998529806045==" --===============1630913998529806045== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes this is correct. Thanks, Jon. I was just using that as an example as to why it has been so difficult for Li= nuxes to=20 settle on a directory structure across the board. My description of the SCO = case was=20 "thin" at most, but was only intended as an example. I didn't know about Compaq, though... 64 bit Unix for the PeeCee? Cool. Laters, Karsten Jon Trygve Utne wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Karsten Johansson wrote: >=20 > > Since SCO is the only Unix with the legal rights to use the name "Unix",= maybe we=20 > > should use *their* directory structure exclusively. >=20 > I don't think this is correct. >=20 > SCO now owns the USL (Unix Systems Laboratories) which they purchased from > Novell. This in turn means that SCO owns the SystemV code. > If you want to use sysV code in your OS, you'll have to license it from > SCO. >=20 > Unix, however, is a registered trademark of The Open Group > (www.opengroup.org). > Every OS that gets a Unix95 or UNIX98 brand from the Open Group, are > entitled to use "Unix" as part of their product name. > That's why Compaq can name their OS "Tru64 Unix". >=20 > To read more about the Unix brand and the Single Unix Specification, > take a look at this site: >=20 > http://www.UNIX-systems.org/> =20 ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - http://orders.xoom.com/email> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1630913998529806045==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Mon Apr 12 15:16:54 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] printerf rustration Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:16:54 +0200 Message-ID: <37120E66.A3B11673@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <99041120285700.00433@Egad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3983456975366975496==" --===============3983456975366975496== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable root wrote: >=20 > Hi >=20 > I upgraded the suse - 6.0 kernel to 2.2.5, and mostly all > was successful. > I have read all I could find on 'howtoprint' in the CD's and on > the net but I can't see my printer. > I had the printer working from suse 5.2. > I had to recompile my first install of v 6.0 to get PPP, but the > printer would not operate. I have parport installed and checked > printer support on kernel config; lsmod shows parport and lp > present, however, ' lp [autoclean] not used ' cat to /dev/lp0 o= r1 > or 2 gives me Operation not supported by this device. > Any suggestions? >=20 > Dick There is more than this with 2.2.x Kernels. you need another module or further options. I have: alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc options parport_pc io=3D0x378 in my rc.config. check that you got the proper port io. there is be a change with lp0/lp1 with 2.2.x kernels. Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3983456975366975496==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 12 15:31:41 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] INIt: "mo" Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:31:41 +0200 Message-ID: <371211DD.F8FBB76@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8535541255719766396==" --===============8535541255719766396== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nate Bowers wrote: >=20 > heya > pulling an error msg that i cnat track down... > INIT: Id "mom" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes > i've looked through all the config files i can think of and cant find > anything that would effect this way....anyone have any suggestions for a > course of action??? Normally this message is: 'ttyN respawning too fast: disabled ...' Have a look into your /etc/inittab and check the entries saying mom:23:respawn ... Is this entry correct. Normally this message means that there are subsequent attempts to login. If these come too fast .... You can also get this effect on a normal console if you log in and off repeatedly and too fast. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8535541255719766396==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 12 15:31:48 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ASUS ISDN 2.2.5 kernel Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:31:48 +0200 Message-ID: <371211E4.4586B0F0@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <3711AC4A.D056B139@trend.si> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4570699326055172239==" --===============4570699326055172239== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Example user SuSE Linux 6.0" wrote: >=20 > After installing kernel 2.2.x on SuSE6.0 ISDN with ASUS card will not > work. Well, what shall we do with this? boot messages, please. Error messages, please. ... Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4570699326055172239==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 12 15:31:56 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] error in loading shared libraries Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:31:56 +0200 Message-ID: <371211EC.BFE66638@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6358718998977783847==" --===============6358718998977783847== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bostjan Muller wrote: > When I try to execute some programes (kde, qps,...) in Linux I get the foll= owing > error: > qps: error in loading shared libraries > : undefined symbol: __ti7QWidget >=20 > Could someone explain it to me whic libraries are corrupted and how to repa= ir > the error if possible? When this happens you should at first issue ldd `whereis qps` to see, what libraries your program is linked to. Then ldsoconfig -NXvp to see, if the needed libraries are found. I've never seen a corrupted library but libraries in wrong places (missing entries in ld.so.conf) or libc5/glibc issues. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6358718998977783847==-- From jperser@airmail.net Mon Apr 12 16:49:02 1999 From: jperser@airmail.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Q: Mounting NTFS volumes under Linux? Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:49:02 -0500 Message-ID: <371223FE.A18C402@airmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4777394195463160282==" --===============4777394195463160282== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there anyway to mount NTFS volumes under Linux? -- John Perser Audio Evangelist & Products Guy Multigen-Paradigm Inc. 972-960-2301 ---
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From seanmcgrath@worldnet.att.net Mon Apr 12 17:32:48 1999
From: seanmcgrath@worldnet.att.net
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading from 5.3 to 6.0 - suggestions needed
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:32:48 -0400
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I'm upgrading from SUSE 5.3 to 6.0 and was wondering how = painless or painful this can be? Do I need to reformat my hard drives and=20 start from scratch? Can I install ontop of 5.3? I'm a real newbie so=20 any suggestions would be apreciated...
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--===============8203697654442338450==-- From mantel@suse.de Mon Apr 12 17:43:53 1999 From: mantel@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:43:53 +0200 Message-ID: <19990412194353.B12249@suse.de> In-Reply-To: <199904121357.GAA03274@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5230710194085355293==" --===============5230710194085355293== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, Apr 12, Michael Perry wrote: > Does postfix support procmail? I perused their website but saw no > definition of this. I would be interested in trying something else but > it has to support procmail. Anyone using postfix and procmail? Of course. Look at the headers of _this_ mail. And of course I'm using procmail. Do you know anybody not using procmail? > Michael Perry -o) Hubert Mantel Goodbye, dots... /\\ _\_v -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at
<= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5230710194085355293==-- From mantel@suse.de Mon Apr 12 17:51:18 1999 From: mantel@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: INIt: "mo" Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:51:18 +0200 Message-ID: <19990412195118.C12249@suse.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1257095017923714559==" --===============1257095017923714559== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, Apr 12, Nate Bowers wrote: > heya > pulling an error msg that i cnat track down... > INIT: Id "mom" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes > i've looked through all the config files i can think of and cant find > anything that would effect this way....anyone have any suggestions for a > course of action??? Seems you messed /etc/inittab. Find a line starting with "mom" and comment it out. > also, everytime i send a fax using susefax, i get a write permission error > to FIFO, im running as root so there shouldn't be any permission conflicts >=20 > thanx in advance, > scav. -o) Hubert Mantel Goodbye, dots... /\\ _\_v -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1257095017923714559==-- From mantel@suse.de Mon Apr 12 17:52:37 1999 From: mantel@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: ASUS ISDN 2.2.5 kernel Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:52:37 +0200 Message-ID: <19990412195237.D12249@suse.de> In-Reply-To: <3711AC4A.D056B139@trend.si> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7986540144433274116==" --===============7986540144433274116== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, Apr 12, Example user SuSE Linux 6.0 wrote: > After installing kernel 2.2.x on SuSE6.0 ISDN with ASUS card will not > work. There are lots of known problems with ISDN in kernel 2.2.x. ISDN is not very important for the US market, so... We hopefully have fixed those problems in our kernel used on 6.1 -o) Hubert Mantel Goodbye, dots... /\\ _\_v -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7986540144433274116==-- From mantel@suse.de Mon Apr 12 17:53:20 1999 From: mantel@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Can't Open Initial Console Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:53:20 +0200 Message-ID: <19990412195320.E12249@suse.de> In-Reply-To: <99Apr12.123300gmt+0100.1611@bastion1.hiscom.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0838549019854787348==" --===============0838549019854787348== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, Apr 12, Braasem den, Rob wrote: > After following the instructions for a loadlin startup I get the following > Message >=20 > Can't Open Initial Console >=20 > And the startup stops. >=20 > What's going on. I did have Linux running, but after modifying as suggested > it doesn't work anymore. >=20 > I'm running Win98 instead of Win95, it that the problem ?? If you have added or deleted partitions, this could be the problem. -o) Hubert Mantel Goodbye, dots... /\\ _\_v -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0838549019854787348==-- From djb@redhat.com Mon Apr 12 18:11:19 1999 From: djb@redhat.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE vs. Red Hat [off topic] Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:11:19 -0400 Message-ID: <199904121811.OAA01929@chef.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <37116C38.60E9FA25@valinet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4835387476394193269==" --===============4835387476394193269== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I wonder why Linux isn't "branded". Is it because Linux fails some technic= al > conformance criterion or is it because no one wants to put up the money to = get the > brand? The biggest reason Linux isn't branded "Unix" is that there are things required in that brand that Linux doesn't have and doesn't need. Things like streams support are required for the branding, but have no wide spread use and thus no real reason to be required in the Linux space (yes, there are a handful of apps that if they were ported could use streams, but not nearly enough to constitute a requirement). There are other examples of things like this that are a part of the branding. It just hasn't been worth the effort. Also note, perhaps more importantly, is the question of what do you *want* to be known as? "Unix" with all it's "baggage", or "Linux" which is new and up and coming? --Donnie -- Donnie Barnes http://www.redhat.com/~djb> djb(a)redhat.co= m "Bah." Challenge Diversity. Ignore People. Live Life. Use Linux. 879. V.=20 The more you cry, the less you'll pee. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4835387476394193269==-- From cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl Mon Apr 12 19:18:59 1999 From: cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:18:59 +0200 Message-ID: <19990412211859.A1490@griend.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <37117353.7B906FF7@valinet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8746325878348150680==" --===============8746325878348150680== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 11:15:15PM -0500, Paul W. Abrahams wrote: > I wonder - is Qmail capable of displaying HTML-formatted messages? That's > the one reason I have for using the Netscape mailer. If not for that, I'd > be using the Emacs mail reader. Qmail is a MTA (mail transfer agent) i.e. it transports mail. Any MUA (mail user agent) which understands MIME can display HTML-formated messages. Add the folowing line to your ~/.mailcap: #------------------------------------------------------------------------- text/html; lynx -dump ; copiousoutput; nametemplate=3D.html #------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the (busy) workers at SuSE: Shouldn't this line be a default for every installation? This HTML-formated mail problem keeps coming up on this list. Greetings, Cees. --=20 Heghlu'DI' mobbe'lu'chugh QaQqu' Hegh wanI'. Death is an experience best shared. Mark Okrand, "Star Trek: The Klingon Way - A Warrier's Guide" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8746325878348150680==-- From mqf090@lulu.acns.nwu.edu Mon Apr 12 19:36:54 1999 From: mqf090@lulu.acns.nwu.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice install -- glibc2 problem Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:36:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990412143654.02eba868@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> In-Reply-To: <199904121429.HAA19472@www1.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8982936025572310340==" --===============8982936025572310340== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i've been trying to install StarOffice 5.0 on my SuSE 6.0 for awhile now. i chose the option for it to install the glibc2 libs in /opt/Office50/libs but it still gives me the message that the libs are missing. i tried to put the path /opt/Office50/libs in my /etc/ld.so.conf file but that only messed it further with messages of an undefined_symbol: error loading shared libraries. could anybody who has done a successful install of so50 please give me some hints? i've upgraded to kernel 2.2.5 and the glibc libraries i have are those that came with SuSE 6.0. ----------------------------------------- Mac Q. Flores IV Northwestern University LinuxPowered K e r n e l 2.2.5 ----------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8982936025572310340==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Apr 12 19:54:39 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:54:39 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990412211859.A1490@griend.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4484135940032775497==" --===============4484135940032775497== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Cees van de Griend wrote: > On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 11:15:15PM -0500, Paul W. Abrahams wrote: > > I wonder - is Qmail capable of displaying HTML-formatted messages? That's > > the one reason I have for using the Netscape mailer. If not for that, I'd > > be using the Emacs mail reader. >=20 > Qmail is a MTA (mail transfer agent) i.e. it transports mail. >=20 > Any MUA (mail user agent) which understands MIME can display HTML-formated > messages. >=20 > Add the folowing line to your ~/.mailcap: >=20 > #------------------------------------------------------------------------- > text/html; lynx -dump ; copiousoutput; nametemplate=3D.html > #------------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > For the (busy) workers at SuSE: > Shouldn't this line be a default for every installation? > This HTML-formated mail problem keeps coming up on this list. This is dependent on your Mailer. My Pine does not have any trouble with displaying HTML inline :) Anyway, I've forwarded your comment for further consideration to feedback(a)suse.de. Thanks! Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4484135940032775497==-- From scavengr@jasper.knox.net Mon Apr 12 20:11:21 1999 From: scavengr@jasper.knox.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] chroot Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:11:21 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6484119542219261968==" --===============6484119542219261968== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable heya, solved my problems with init:mo and most of the fax problem, however im now lookin for info on the chroot command any1 have any pointers??? man page doesnt offer much thanx, scav -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6484119542219261968==-- From wolfsong@blaze.ca Mon Apr 12 20:22:29 1999 From: wolfsong@blaze.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Returned mail: User unknown Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:22:29 -0700 Message-ID: <37125605.3E6FF462@blaze.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3203031032940334732==" --===============3203031032940334732== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote: > The original message was received at Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:46:50 -0700 (PDT) > from root(a)localhost > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to mail.suse.com.: > >>> RCPT To: > <<< 550 ... User unknown > 550 ... User unknown > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Reporting-MTA: dns; Gatekeeper.Alameda.net > Arrival-Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:46:50 -0700 (PDT) > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; suse-list-e(a)suse.com > Action: failed > Status: 2.0.0 > Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.suse.com > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 250 LAA29993 Message accepted for delivery > Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:57:03 -0700 (PDT) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: 2suse.com: host not = found) > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:57:58 -0700 > From: islandwolf > Organization: Fertile Ideas SoftWare > To: suse-list-e(a)suse.com > References: <199904121843.LAA23980(a)flame.blaze.ca> > > Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote: > > > The original message was received at Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:43:26 -0700 (PDT) > > from 022pm3-38.blaze.ca [204.239.157.93] > > > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > 550 ... Host unknown (Name server: 2suse.com: ho= st not found) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Reporting-MTA: dns; flame.blaze.ca > > Received-From-MTA: DNS; 022pm3-38.blaze.ca > > Arrival-Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:43:26 -0700 (PDT) > > > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; SuSe-list-e(a)2suse.com > > Action: failed > > Status: 5.1.2 > > Remote-MTA: DNS; 2suse.com > > Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:43:31 -0700 (PDT) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: tips to get online... > > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:56:25 -0700 > > From: islandwolf > > Organization: Fertile Ideas SoftWare > > To: SuSe-list-e(a)2suse.com > > > > For those of you who have, like myself, suffered much to get online > > with wvdial uunder Linux: > > > > 1) Follow the immensely helpful instructions most people here have > > shared. > > 2) If you've done everything else, and you're still getting untimely > > disconnections, SIGHUPS, etc... > > > > try putting a capital P in front of your login in /etc/wvdial.conf > > > > I am writiing this under Linux. Wonders will never cease! :-) > > > > Huge thanks you's to all & sundry who sent messages, clues, and helpful > > hits. > > > > -- > > islandwolf > > "live from the den of ubiquity" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3203031032940334732==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Apr 12 20:48:43 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Q: Mounting NTFS volumes under Linux? Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:48:43 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <371223FE.A18C402@airmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3076113023672781777==" --===============3076113023672781777== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, John Perser wrote: > Is there anyway to mount NTFS volumes under Linux? Starting with Kernel 2.2.x, there is a read-only driver for mounting NTFS. See http://www.informatik.hu-= berlin.de/~loewis/ntfs/> for more info on this subject. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3076113023672781777==-- From zecm@camoes.rnl.ist.utl.pt Mon Apr 12 20:54:28 1999 From: zecm@camoes.rnl.ist.utl.pt To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Trouble with my printer Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:54:28 +0100 Message-ID: <37125D84.922DC22E@camoes.rnl.ist.utl.pt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2133169845766719202==" --===============2133169845766719202== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I'm having loads of trouble printing under SuSE Linux 6.0. My printer is a HP DeskJet 560C, and is printing fine under Windows 98. I've configured 'apsfilter' for the printer with YaST using the driver 'cdj550' (according to page 244 of SuSE Linux guide). Actually, I've carefully followed every instruction from chapter 11 (Printer) of the Linux guide, and I've gone through the checklist on page 245 twice, but to no avail: the printer won't work. My printer related environment varibles are as follow: PRINTER=3Dlp GS_LIB=3D/usr/share/ghostscript/5.10:/usr/share/ghostscript/fonts:/usr/X11R6/= lib/X 11/fonts/ttf:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 Apsfilter created four printer queues: lp, lp-mono, ascii, raw. The first three of these don't work. The following commands don't do a thing: jcm(a)home:~ > lpr test1.ps jcm(a)home:~ > lpr -Plp test2.ps jcm(a)home:~ > lpr -Plp-mono test3.ps jcm(a)home:~ > lpr -Pascii test4.txt except generating two lines at the end of /var/spool/lpd/cdj550-a4-auto-color-300/log: %[ Error: invalidfont; OffendingCommand: findfont ]% GNU Ghostscript: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 ** However, the printer DOES work fine if I do this: jcm(a)home:~ > gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -dSHORTERRORS -sDEVICE=3Dcdj550 -r300 -dBATCH -sPAPERSIZE=3Da4 -sOutputFile=3D/dev/lp1 anyfile.ps So I did't think it had anything to do with missing fonts. [[Since I'm the only user on my machine, I've set the file /dev/lp1 to crw-rw-rw (root), instead of crw-rw---- (root), so I can send the files directly to the printer, even as a normal user.]] Therefore, I assumed there was something wrong with apsfilter, so I went to YaST, removed the aps package, and re-installed it. This time I even went to the aps directory /var/lib/apsfilter and ran the SETUP program. But everything stayed the same. There a interesting exception though. The program The GIMP (The GNU Image Manipulation Program) has its own printer drivers, which turned out to be an excelent thing. My printer prints any image file from inside the GIMP! In order to print documents from StarOffice 5.0 though, I have to print them to a PostScript file first and then use the GhostScript command above. The same happens to every other program I use. How do I fix this? Anyone? :) Regards, Z=C3=A9 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2133169845766719202==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Mon Apr 12 21:28:51 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.1 .... Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:28:51 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3257402442434261925==" --===============3257402442434261925== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I went up to the English version of the site for SuSE and 6.1 is looking mighty good.=20 I noticed that the umsdos installation ( the live install ) is now gone from SuSE and discontinued due to space concerns on the diskettes. I also see WordPerfect has been added. Awesome. I did want to mention a few things.=20 Re E ( the Enlightened Window Manager ) it should be noted that the version of libpng that shipped with 6.0 is broken in respect to E. I have to say, I do not use the E that ships with SuSE as I am following it via CVS but if you try to compile CVS with libpng 2.1.0.2-24 you wil get some of Rasters playful erros messages have No Joy through Enlightenment. I think a note about this maybe should be included-- that some apps 'struggle' with that version of libpng. I am not so sure why SuSE continues to ship DR14, though, since some of the later versions ( DR15) seems to me to have augmented Enlightenment and includes nice features like EConfig and some other enhancements )). I strongly suggest moving the release up to the supposedly 'unstable' DR15 as it is much better IMHO than DR14. In speaking of E in this 'too long' mail, is Eterm included in SuSE? If not shouldn't it be? It is sort the Enlightenment terminal and I can't understand when something like the enigmatic EMusic is included but I see no mention of Michael Jenning's Eterm program. That makes no sense to me, especially since the later is really stable and the former is buggy as hell, in my experience. Anyway... =20 Sendmail is not mentioned on the site from what I could see in the 'Updated Packages' section ( which is right below the list of new packages ) . This in spite of the fact that many have requested the upgrade. Hopefully whoever manages the site will make sure that the Sendmail upgrade to 8.9.3 will be mentioned from the 8.8* that SuSE has been shipping with so long. Not because it's a major transition but because it concerns customers inquiring in respect to this particular upgrade and it might deter some of the "Why does SuSE ship with such an old sendmail?" questions/complaints.=20 Humorously, "John the Ripper"-- the app that I asked about that 'tests' passwords has been added. So I guess those people who sent me the private mail about my request being inappropriate to the nature of the list were mistaken. :-) Inclusion of nmap was nice move as well. Snes9x and x11amp ( I'm assuming this is the gtk+ opened up version that you're talking about ) were also some more nice touches. =20 Question: I see ( as discussed in another thread ) that Postfix will be with 6.1, but understand that some people (Hubert, others ) are already using it on their SuSE linux boxes. Can some people that prefer Postfix to Sendmail, tell me why they prefer it. I've been hearing about it for a while and have the sources but haven't actually tried it yet and would like to hear some opinions from the rank and file.=20 Nice to see Linux 2.2.5 shipping 'out of the box' come May with 6.1.=20 Once again, the SuSE guys seem to have outdone themselves. I applaud you and am anticipating another great release. Thanks for handling the transition so beautifully, and SuSE linux ( as you know ) will be my recomendation to anyone who asks when they ask me for a distribution recomendation.=20 Thanks again,=20 -M=20 _____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- M i c h a e l J o h n s o n -=20 e r o s @ a n d u i n . e l d a r . o r g P o w e r e d by L I N U X : K E R N E L 2 . 2 . 5 Please support Free Software and Open Source !!=20 ____________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3257402442434261925==-- From michael@merrittpop.com Mon Apr 12 21:30:53 1999 From: michael@merrittpop.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Auto power-off Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:30:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3712660D.25C99F5C@merrittpop.com> In-Reply-To: <005d01be84e8$85d85920$0205a8c0@lupoalberto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7499088189142011691==" --===============7499088189142011691== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Giovanni Cambria wrote: >=20 > I 'm not able to auto power off my linux box. > I've an ATX PII, kernel 2.2.5 with auto power off option enabled. > windoze (bleah!) 9x can do it easily, why my beatyful Linux cannot? Uhm, why do you _WANT_ to power off your Linux box? Linux does not have a "Shutdown" command per sey. The way I turn mine off (for hardware changes) is to do a -- shutdown -rf now and when the BIOS screen comes up after rebooting, kill the power. You shouldn't ever need to just kill the power to a Linux box... -- Michael Merritt michael(a)merrittpop.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/> michaelmerritt(a)email.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/jmm/> ICQ: 21021306 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7499088189142011691==-- From Gleth@tinet.ie Mon Apr 12 21:42:05 1999 From: Gleth@tinet.ie To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Network packets routing to lo Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:42:05 +0000 Message-ID: <371268AD.A352F0F5@tinet.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8429079513193023600==" --===============8429079513193023600== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I've an ethernet connection between a SparcStation LX and my PC going through a hub, unfortunately when I try to get my SuSE 6.0 installation to talk to the network nothing happens. I looked at the routing and the card setup and found that, as far as I could see, all the information was as the man pages/how-tos said it should be. Using cat /proc/net/dev I saw that all the packets are being routed to the localhost (lo) instead of going to eth0, my 3Com 595 T4 ethernet card. I have rebuilt the routing table both by hand and via YAST, and have checked that the card is set up ok. I even got my work Sysadmin to take a look, adn he couldn't find anything obviously wrong. So, what I would like to know is: Is there any special file or setup specific to SuSE that I have missed? Or is there anything that you could tell me to check, as ifconfig, netstat, route, cat /proc/net/dev and YAST all show the networking information as correct... (to add insult to injury I managed to get windows95 to work with the network first time!) Please help this suffering fool :-) Have Fun, Jim McBoyle -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8429079513193023600==-- From michael@merrittpop.com Mon Apr 12 21:48:25 1999 From: michael@merrittpop.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) {QMail} Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:48:25 -0500 Message-ID: <37126A29.4301ACE9@merrittpop.com> In-Reply-To: <19990411081603.A24961@griend.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4761376246184194189==" --===============4761376246184194189== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cees van de Griend wrote: >=20 > On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 06:34:02PM +0200, Michael Hasenstein wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Cees van de Griend wrote: > > > I prefer Qmail also... > > > > The reason it's not shipped is > > ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/= www/qmail/dist.html> > > > > I know, there's even commercial software on the CD, but that's user > > software, not system software. >=20 > I looked at that page. So what's the problem? >=20 > It said nowhere that you are not allowed to make a .rpm of it. > You only have to keep the files in the 'qmail-standard' directories, > i.e. under /var/qmail. I know that's not the standard, but the author > insists (I must admit rather strongly) on it. >=20 > So once again, what's the problem? > You can find pre-compiled .rpm's on <http://www.qmail.org/>>. > You (SuSE) only have to include them on the CD and let the user decide > what he/she finds more important, security and quick delivery or > installing in the so called 'standard' directories. First, I'm not sure what's being referred to here as "standard" directories. SuSE, RedHat, Debian, et. al., each use their own "default" directory structures, most of which are different that the one that is used if I compile/install my own version of the package (take Apache, for example -- SuSE and RH scatter the configuration files to all ends of the earth, whereas the default installation puts everything in /usr/local/apache).=20 Is Qmail not "free" just because SuSE can't make a custom .rpm of it which puts the configuration files in seven million different places instead of /var/qmail? Putting everyting in /var/qmail makes a whole boatload more sense to me than does to modify it -- I have never seen a problem with qmail's dir structure. Can someone from SuSE elaborate on just why exactly "we were not allowed to put it on CD" (Lenz Grimmer)? If it is a matter of it not being "free," KDE has been on the distro since long before qt was ever made semi-open-source, and IMO, qmail is still a lot more "free" than is qt. I think that the user should have the option on whether he wants qmail, sendmail, postfix, or another MTA, not being forced to install sendmail or nothing by default, downloading qmail, etc., etc... Now, of course, I realize that there can only be some 650 MB worth of packages placed on the CD-ROM, but shouldn't the second most popular and the most secure (fact, not my opinion...) MTA be included before some of these other lesser-known packages? -- Michael Merritt michael(a)merrittpop.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/> michaelmerritt(a)email.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/jmm/> ICQ: 21021306 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4761376246184194189==-- From imm@KidsCare.Net Mon Apr 12 22:00:19 1999 From: imm@KidsCare.Net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] console mod ? Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:00:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6916152551229646904==" --===============6916152551229646904== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I heard that it was possible to modify your consoles is this true? If so to what extent can you modify consoles. I use bitchx with scripts and themesand was curious if the same thing could be done to consoles to make them look differant. Any info much appreciated. Thanks ian the sane "Bombing for peace is like whoring for virginity"=20 Malaclypse the Younger -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6916152551229646904==-- From michael@merrittpop.com Mon Apr 12 22:02:02 1999 From: michael@merrittpop.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Symbolic links vs. hard link Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:02:02 -0500 Message-ID: <37126D5A.80D3ED4E@merrittpop.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Symbolic links vs. hard link> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1572917995093986860==" --===============1572917995093986860== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Could a hard link also be referred to as a copy? I know it is not technically correct, but I've found it easier to use that to rationalize it to people with Windows backgrounds. Also, a soft link can be equated to a Windows shortcut -- you can delete the shortcut and the file is original file is not affected, but if you remove the original file, the shortcut is then broken... Steve Crane wrote: >=20 > On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 09:49:06PM -0500, Raul Beltran wrote: > > ln -s > > > > the '-s' option creates a symbolic link instead of a hard link. >=20 > I've often wondered just what is meant by 'symbolic link' and 'hard > link'. The man page for ln mentions, but doesn't explain them. Can > someone explain the difference or point me to some docs that do explain > the difference. >=20 -- Michael Merritt michael(a)merrittpop.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/> michaelmerritt(a)email.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/jmm/> ICQ: 21021306 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1572917995093986860==-- From stevep@bash.linux-shell.net Mon Apr 12 22:03:51 1999 From: stevep@bash.linux-shell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ASUS ISDN 2.2.5 kernel Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:03:51 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <371211E4.4586B0F0@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4253218300204235013==" --===============4253218300204235013== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, hhv wrote: >=20 > "Example user SuSE Linux 6.0" wrote: > >=20 > > After installing kernel 2.2.x on SuSE6.0 ISDN with ASUS card will not > > work. >=20 > Well, what shall we do with this? boot messages, please. Error messages, > please. ... >=20 Ah, come on. You're not a mindreader? ;-) Thnks for the chuckle.=20 Steve. > Henning >=20 > --=20 > H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4253218300204235013==-- From jbodnar@dev.tivoli.com Mon Apr 12 22:09:13 1999 From: jbodnar@dev.tivoli.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Auto power-off Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:09:13 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3712660D.25C99F5C@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0307415273258238691==" --===============0307415273258238691== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If linux will do it for you automatically why would you want to do it by hand. I can give you another reason for wanting power management with linux. My crappy intel network card for some reason forgets how to work after a soft reset. I need to power off to get it to work. So, everynow and then when linux hangs or I need to reboot for some reason, when I do "reboot" the box powers down automatically and then restarts without any intervention from me. On 12-Apr-99 Michael Merritt wrote: >=20 > Giovanni Cambria wrote: >>=20 >> I 'm not able to auto power off my linux box. >> I've an ATX PII, kernel 2.2.5 with auto power off option enabled. >> windoze (bleah!) 9x can do it easily, why my beatyful Linux cannot? >=20 > Uhm, why do you _WANT_ to power off your Linux box? Linux does not have > a "Shutdown" command per sey. The way I turn mine off (for hardware > changes) is to do a -- > shutdown -rf now > and when the BIOS screen comes up after rebooting, kill the power. You > shouldn't ever need to just kill the power to a Linux box... >=20 > -- > Michael Merritt > michael(a)merrittpop.com | = http://www.merrittpop.com/> > michaelmerritt(a)email.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/jmm/> > ICQ: 21021306 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --- Jason Bodnar + jbodnar(a)tivoli.com + Tivoli Systems [Another Normism ...] Hey, Mr. Peterson, can I pour you a beer? Well, okay, Woody, but be sure to stop me at one. ... Eh, make that one-thirt= y. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0307415273258238691==-- From tschlemmer@sequeltech.com Mon Apr 12 22:13:52 1999 From: tschlemmer@sequeltech.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Auto power-off Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:13:52 -0700 Message-ID: <37127020.68EE5F18@sequeltech.com> In-Reply-To: <3712660D.25C99F5C@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1317303036295774593==" --===============1317303036295774593== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What if I had my Linux box monitoring my UPS and when the power was out the Linux box received a "Low Battery" signal from the UPS? I might want to have my box do a clean shutdown and then power it off before the battery in the UPS goes dead. Michael Merritt wrote: >=20 > Giovanni Cambria wrote: > > > > I 'm not able to auto power off my linux box. > > I've an ATX PII, kernel 2.2.5 with auto power off option enabled. > > windoze (bleah!) 9x can do it easily, why my beatyful Linux cannot? >=20 > Uhm, why do you _WANT_ to power off your Linux box? Linux does not have > a "Shutdown" command per sey. The way I turn mine off (for hardware > changes) is to do a -- > shutdown -rf now > and when the BIOS screen comes up after rebooting, kill the power. You > shouldn't ever need to just kill the power to a Linux box... >=20 > -- > Michael Merritt > michael(a)merrittpop.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/> > michaelmerritt(a)email.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/jmm/> > ICQ: 21021306 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Tony --=20 Tony Schlemmer Sequel Technology Corp. mailto:tschlemmer(a)sequeltech= .com http://www.sequeltech.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1317303036295774593==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Mon Apr 12 22:28:47 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] xterm now iconizes ... Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:28:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3712739F.525688FB@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <003601be84e4$e2785760$2b0d1280@kester> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3142002940736680925==" --===============3142002940736680925== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kester Clegg wrote: >=20 > Have you checked your / system-wide .Xdefaults for the word 'xterm' ? > k. >=20 YUP! > : > :Hi folks, > :Somewhere along the way, while I was putzing with my KDE environment > :settings, I changed how xterm pops up. It used to open up onto the > :desktop. Now it iconizes on the icon bar at the top. I have to click > :it's pad again to get it to open up on the desktop. > : > :I've looked in the KDE Control Center, all the KDE resource files, the > :dot files in my home directory, and every other file config file I can > :think of or find, but I can't locate it. > : > :Anyone know where it is? > :-- > : > :JLK > :Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is > :right. > :-- > :To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > :this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > :Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > :archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3142002940736680925==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 12 22:36:13 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] chroot Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:36:13 +0200 Message-ID: <3712755D.9F079F98@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5446888944753690357==" --===============5446888944753690357== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nate Bowers wrote: >=20 > heya, > solved my problems with init:mo and most of the fax problem, however im > now lookin for info on the chroot command any1 have any pointers??? > man page doesnt offer much It does exactly what the manpage says. Example: chroot /mnt proggy proggy will think /mnt/ is / . Whenever proggy refers to / it really refers to /mnt/. If proggy writes to /tmp/tempfile, you will find it in /mnt/tmp/ etc Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5446888944753690357==-- From lsayre@stratos.net Mon Apr 12 22:37:31 1999 From: lsayre@stratos.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] No 6.1 pre-order on USA web site? Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:37:31 -0400 Message-ID: <371275AB.D9CD8303@stratos.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1701534948276423355==" --===============1701534948276423355== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was visiting the German SuSE web site and went to order 6.1, but on the ordering page it said to jump to the US site for US orders. A hyperlink to the US web site ordering page was provided. However, on the ordering page of the US site, 6.1 is nowhere to be found! Lawrence Sayre --------------------------------------------- "Man's mind is his basic tool of survival!" (a quote from the famous 'John Galt' speech=20 in the equally famous book "Atlas Shrugged") Lawrence Sayre --------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1701534948276423355==-- From dlaude@execpc.com Mon Apr 12 22:56:19 1999 From: dlaude@execpc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Auto power-off Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:56:19 -0500 Message-ID: <199904122256.RAA14705@mailgw00.execpc.com> In-Reply-To: <37127020.68EE5F18@sequeltech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0071037959053671076==" --===============0071037959053671076== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---Reply to mail from Tony Schlemmer >=20 > What if I had my Linux box monitoring my UPS and when the power was out > the Linux box received a "Low Battery" signal from the UPS? I might want > to have my box do a clean shutdown and then power it off before the > battery in the UPS goes dead. Check out the UPS-HOWTO located in /usr/doc/howto. Also, BEST UPS's provide better support to the Linux community vs APC. = http://www.bestpower.com> Dana ---End reply --=20 I love Windows. The kind that only go into my house...! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0071037959053671076==-- From tschlemmer@sequeltech.com Mon Apr 12 23:16:57 1999 From: tschlemmer@sequeltech.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Auto power-off Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:16:57 -0700 Message-ID: <37127EE9.1F24988B@sequeltech.com> In-Reply-To: <199904122256.RAA14705@mailgw00.execpc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7098124496225220414==" --===============7098124496225220414== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was only making a point regarding this last post as to why someone might want to have Linux power down their system as part of the shutdown command. Please don't inundate me with with links to the UPS-HOWTO. I have already hooked up several systems to APC UPS's using homemade signaling cables and and software sited in the UPS-HOWTO. The original poster mentioned something about having Linux power down their system via software shutdown as this is apparently something that an ATX motherboard supports. Apparently Win9x and NT already support this while Linux perhaps doesn't? I think this is more of an issue regarding APM support/configuration rather than UPS's. > Dana J. Laude" wrote: >=20 > ---Reply to mail from Tony Schlemmer >=20 > > > > What if I had my Linux box monitoring my UPS and when the power was out > > the Linux box received a "Low Battery" signal from the UPS? I might want > > to have my box do a clean shutdown and then power it off before the > > battery in the UPS goes dead. >=20 > Check out the UPS-HOWTO located in /usr/doc/howto. Also, BEST > UPS's provide better support to the Linux community vs APC. > http://www.bestpower.com> >=20 > Dana >=20 > ---End reply > -- > I love Windows. The kind that only go into my house...! Tony --=20 Tony Schlemmer mailto:tschlemmer(a)sequeltech= .com http://www.sequeltech.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7098124496225220414==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 13 00:13:56 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Ya make craposis, yer gonna earn craposis.... Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:13:56 -0400 Message-ID: <37128C44.7EFEF6D@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8752428238504208587==" --===============8752428238504208587== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.zdnet.co= m/anchordesk/story/story_3282.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8752428238504208587==-- From michael@merrittpop.com Tue Apr 13 00:22:34 1999 From: michael@merrittpop.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Navy using MSFltSim to train pilots Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:22:34 -0500 Message-ID: <37128E4A.D0F15ED9@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6148107914244201456==" --===============6148107914244201456== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ap/technology/story.html?s=3Dv/a= p/19990412/tc/computer_flying_1.html> -- Michael Merritt michael(a)merrittpop.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/> michaelmerritt(a)email.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/jmm/> ICQ: 21021306 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6148107914244201456==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Tue Apr 13 00:25:46 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] console mod ? Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:25:46 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1015634253358796677==" --===============1015634253358796677== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Ian M. Moore wrote: > I heard that it was possible to modify your consoles is this true? > If so to what extent can you modify consoles. > I use bitchx with scripts and themesand was curious if the same thing > could be done to consoles to make them look differant. > Any info much appreciated. > Thanks > ian the sane You can use ansi escape sequences to modify the look of your prompt or to display certain messages in color in your scripts etc or $HOME/.*rc files , e.g., .bash_profile etc. I'm not sure how much you want to modify or what you want to do. But a quick ( and perhaps lame ) example might be typing : echo -e "\o33[35mExample color sequence\033[37m" at the prompt. It prints up the words "Example color sequence" in purple onto the console. If you put that into your .bashrc ( with some different string etc.) it would display this everytime you logon. You can also use different characters etc. You can find different docs, or whatever, on the web. Not sure if this is what you meant, though.=20 Of course you can also change the bgcolor and fonts etc. with setterm program. But I'm sure this is not the kind of mod you mean. :-) Just another FWIW.=20 _____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- M i c h a e l J o h n s o n -=20 e r o s @ a n d u i n . e l d a r . o r g P o w e r e d by L I N U X : K E R N E L 2 . 2 . 5 Please support Free Software and Open Source !!=20 ____________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1015634253358796677==-- From hell@hell.hsh.stusta.mhn.de Tue Apr 13 01:04:20 1999 From: hell@hell.hsh.stusta.mhn.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Symbolic links vs. hard link Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:04:20 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37126D5A.80D3ED4E@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2019181804648367061==" --===============2019181804648367061== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Michael Merritt wrote: >=20 > Could a hard link also be referred to as a copy? I know it is not > technically correct, but I've found it easier to use that to rationalize > it to people with Windows backgrounds. Also, a soft link can be equated > to a Windows shortcut -- you can delete the shortcut and the file is > original file is not affected, but if you remove the original file, the > shortcut is then broken... >=20 May be, if you keep in mind, that the difference between a copy and a hardlink is, that if you edit a copy of a file, you have two different versions of the file on disk. But if you edit a hard link, also the "original" is beeing altered. This is, since a hardlinked file exists only once on the disk, but have two directory entries to get to the data.=20 You can consider a hard linked file as it beeing one file, but having two names. Or, if the hard link is created in another directory, consider the file as being in two places at the same time. If you create a hard link - saying you use ln file.txt second.txt - there is no difference between the directory entries "file.txt" and "second.txt". Both point to the same piece of data. And nobody could see, which was first. What you said about soft links is correct. They can be compared to Windows shortcuts. But the difference is, that soft links are something, the operating system understands, and therefore every program works with it and not only the windows explorer. And a soft link only contains the file name of the target, but no icon info, or such things. Hell --=20 hell (Herbert Stocker) : mailto:hell(a)stusta.mhn.de = \ Hell is also \ http://hell.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> \ my NickName \ goto:D->MUC->StuSta->HSH[1126] \ in RealLive. \=C3=97 : -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2019181804648367061==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 13 01:52:57 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:52:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3712A379.2333A425@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7015190527774452114==" --===============7015190527774452114== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is DEAD wrong in a lot of areas...but, you should read it. Fred _______________ http:= //www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,34918,00.html?st.ne.lh..ni> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7015190527774452114==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 13 01:59:21 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Halloween V Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:59:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3712A4F9.BEF72E39@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7306873167283105152==" --===============7306873167283105152== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.linuxworld.com?04-12/linuxworld/lw-1999-03/= lw-03-thesource.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7306873167283105152==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 13 02:02:50 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:02:50 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3712A379.2333A425@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1043206697788230658==" --===============1043206697788230658== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote: >=20 > This is DEAD wrong in a lot of areas...but, you should read it. Where? I haven't found any problems with it. WAY better than that WSJ article. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1043206697788230658==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 13 02:05:38 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Making the play for Linux in the home Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:05:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3712A672.E42402D4@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6196039077920863997==" --===============6196039077920863997== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GOOD article! Fred ____________________ http://www.linuxworld.com?04-12/linuxworld/lw-1999-03/lw= -03-penguin2.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6196039077920863997==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Tue Apr 13 02:10:32 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:10:32 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8831338766195107522==" --===============8831338766195107522== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Ewan Dunbar wrote: > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > This is DEAD wrong in a lot of areas...but, you should read it. > Where? I haven't found any problems with it. WAY better than that WSJ > article. I actually thought it was more even-handed than many of the Linux articles from the outside, and some of the points to me seemed viable especially particularly in respect to SMP. I guess we'll see very shortly the comments pouring in. Thanks for posting the pointer Fred.=20 _____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- M i c h a e l J o h n s o n -=20 e r o s @ a n d u i n . e l d a r . o r g P o w e r e d by L I N U X : K E R N E L 2 . 2 . 5 Please support Free Software and Open Source !!=20 ____________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8831338766195107522==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Tue Apr 13 02:30:23 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Navy using MSFltSim to train pilots Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:30:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3712AC3F.762450A9@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <37128E4A.D0F15ED9@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2467825121664694802==" --===============2467825121664694802== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Merritt wrote: >=20 >=20 That obviously includes crash traing.... --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2467825121664694802==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Tue Apr 13 02:37:40 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Apache STOP/Start Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:37:40 +0200 Message-ID: <3712ADF4.165304DC@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2369551042047700843==" --===============2369551042047700843== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert Copelan wrote: >=20 > I have tried apache stop/start and apass1 stop/start. Neither seem to wor= k on > my SuSE 6.0 system. > Can anyone please let me know how to stop and start the Apache server? Al= so, > how can I tell if it starts (other than browsing to it)? On my (Suse 6.0) system '/sbin/init.d/apache restart' does what what I expect it to do. The same with start or stop. If the desired action hase succeeded you should see 'done', else 'failure'. You can also invoke the script with the 'status' parameter. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2369551042047700843==-- From nickek@algonet.se Tue Apr 13 04:06:17 1999 From: nickek@algonet.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] time zone question Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:06:17 +0200 Message-ID: <99041306122200.26489@jupiter> In-Reply-To: <37116DD8.4AF9DED0@valinet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1024883848892168227==" --===============1024883848892168227== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Paul W. Abrahams wrote: > One thing I've wondered about: if you're running two systems (in different > partitions) that do Daylight Savings Time adjustments (Linux and Win98, say= ), > how do you prevent the adjustment from being done twice? >=20 > Paul Abrahams Well, Linux usees its own clock in the os (of course based on the bios time), and it is this clock which is adjusted to daylight saving. Linux doesn=C5=BDt= adjust the bios clock, as windoze. In my system, I have the bios clock set to GMT, a= nd in windoze I have turned the automatic daylight saving function off!! /Nikodemus > > >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1024883848892168227==-- From sandsmark@iname.com Tue Apr 13 04:26:16 1999 From: sandsmark@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] new setup Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:26:16 -0700 Message-ID: <3712C768.FB00BE9C@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <001501be84e4$31996920$9b7760cb@brumsey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1066149184471460090==" --===============1066149184471460090== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "B.Rumsey" wrote:
Help<= /font>I have S.U.S.E 6.0. I have just installed a new hard drive and motherboard and can not get get windows to work.My mother board is a Pentium 2 mainboard ( m747) with a built in high performance 64 bit 3D AGP Graphics Accelerator with 8mb frame buffer. Can can one tell me how I could set this up please. B.Rumsey


could you give more info.

-Extra hard drive or a new one?
-Windows =3D Win95-98 or X?
-Name of your graphics card

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Even --===============1066149184471460090==-- From jljr@globalfrontiers.com Tue Apr 13 05:09:29 1999 From: jljr@globalfrontiers.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.1 .... Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:09:29 +0000 Message-ID: <19990413090841372.AAA352@ns1.globalfrontiers.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.1 ....> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6350915653486671560==" --===============6350915653486671560== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:28:51 -0700 (PDT), Michael Johnson wrote: > >Well, I went up to the English version of the site for SuSE and 6.1 is >looking mighty good.=20 > Will SuSE subscribers receive a 6.1 update disk automatically, or must we order the 6.1 upgrade? thanks in advance joe -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6350915653486671560==-- From robertc@mindspring.com Tue Apr 13 05:23:59 1999 From: robertc@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Apache STOP/Start Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:23:59 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3923609059604052843==" --===============3923609059604052843== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have tried apache stop/start and apass1 stop/start. Neither seem to work = on my SuSE 6.0 system.=20 Can anyone please let me know how to stop and start the Apache server? Also, how can I tell if it starts (other than browsing to it)? Tnx Robert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3923609059604052843==-- From brgreen@bc.sympatico.ca Tue Apr 13 05:26:32 1999 From: brgreen@bc.sympatico.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] kmail problem Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:26:32 -0700 Message-ID: <3712D588.FBD182EC@bc.sympatico.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1870436517436944932==" --===============1870436517436944932== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi to all, Just upgraded to 6.0 and I have netscape up and running. Mail works fine and all. But I would like to use something a bit lighter. My problem is that I can't get Kmail to receive mail. I can send with no problem. But when I try to get mail, I get the Pop Mail Error: In OPEN: 550 Connection rejected due to connection origin I must be missing something, but what?.....and where? My thanks in advance, Bri -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1870436517436944932==-- From mha@suse.de Tue Apr 13 07:16:12 1999 From: mha@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) {QMail} Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:16:12 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37126A29.4301ACE9@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8519723513476456293==" --===============8519723513476456293== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Michael Merritt wrote: >...=20 > Now, of course, I realize that there can only be some 650 MB worth of > packages placed on the CD-ROM, but shouldn't the second most popular and > the most secure (fact, not my opinion...) MTA be included before some of > these other lesser-known packages? Did you try postfix? Of course you didn't... --=20 Michael Hasenstein http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/> Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8519723513476456293==-- From mha@suse.de Tue Apr 13 07:26:24 1999 From: mha@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Navy using MSFltSim to train pilots Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:26:24 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3712AC3F.762450A9@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0033831882528363765==" --===============0033831882528363765== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > That obviously includes crash traing.... That statement is not based on facts and is not helpful. Fact is, MS flightsim is damn good. See my signature below, I know what I'm talking about. It doesn't have FAA approval merely because you need to certify the flight controls with the software, and FAA certified simulators (i.e. you can log some of the hours in your flight log as 'simulated instrument' flight time) are for IFR (instrument flight rules) training only, while MS FS tries to be useful for VFR flight (visual flight rules) as well. Otherwise they don't need to change a lot if they'd want such certification. It helped me quite a bit in my own training. Also, I've never seen it crash. The flightsim itself seems to have been programmed well. --=20 Michael Hasenstein http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/> Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0033831882528363765==-- From info@koppit.nl Tue Apr 13 07:33:52 1999 From: info@koppit.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] kmail problem Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:33:52 +0200 Message-ID: <000d01be857f$faa969a0$664090c3@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <3712D588.FBD182EC@bc.sympatico.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6537735549109025277==" --===============6537735549109025277== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable be sure your login entry is correct. Only your real login should be there; skip any @'s and providernames there. For me that was the solution to this particular problem. Cortjan. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of B. Green > Sent: dinsdag 13 april 1999 07:27 > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: [SuSE Linux] kmail problem > > > > Hi to all, > Just upgraded to 6.0 and I have netscape up and running. Mail works > fine and all. But I would like to use something a bit lighter. My > problem is that I can't get Kmail to receive mail. I can send with no > problem. But when I try to get mail, I get the Pop Mail Error: > In OPEN: > 550 Connection rejected due to connection origin > > > I must be missing something, but what?.....and where? > > My thanks in advance, > Bri > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6537735549109025277==-- From venrooij@casema.net Tue Apr 13 08:07:45 1999 From: venrooij@casema.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Auto power-off Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:07:45 +0200 Message-ID: <3712FB51.E34AB5CB@casema.net> In-Reply-To: <37127EE9.1F24988B@sequeltech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8768122230495699945==" --===============8768122230495699945== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am afraid there is a bit more to it than this. I run Linux on a machine with APM and, using the 2.0.35 and 2.0.36 kernels, automatically powering down the system via "halt" or "shutdown -h now" was no problem. For some reason, this = no longer works with the 2.2.X kernels. Maybe some overlooked feature (bug)? By the way, there are of course many reasons why someone would like to be able to power down a system. I personally consider it a waste of energy to leave a computer on just because its operating system is unlikely to crash. Bye, Tim. Tony Schlemmer wrote: > I was only making a point regarding this last post as to why someone > might want to have Linux power down their system as part of the shutdown > command. Please don't inundate me with with links to the UPS-HOWTO. I > have already hooked up several systems to APC UPS's using homemade > signaling cables and and software sited in the UPS-HOWTO. > > The original poster mentioned something about having Linux power down > their system via software shutdown as this is apparently something that > an ATX motherboard supports. Apparently Win9x and NT already support > this while Linux perhaps doesn't? I think this is more of an issue > regarding APM support/configuration rather than UPS's. > > > Dana J. Laude" wrote: > > > > ---Reply to mail from Tony Schlemmer > > > > > > > > What if I had my Linux box monitoring my UPS and when the power was out > > > the Linux box received a "Low Battery" signal from the UPS? I might want > > > to have my box do a clean shutdown and then power it off before the > > > battery in the UPS goes dead. > > > > Check out the UPS-HOWTO located in /usr/doc/howto. Also, BEST > > UPS's provide better support to the Linux community vs APC. > > http://www.bestpower.com> > > > > Dana > > > > ---End reply > > -- > > I love Windows. The kind that only go into my house...! > > Tony > > -- > Tony Schlemmer > mailto:tschlemmer(a)sequelte= ch.com > http://www.sequeltech.com> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8768122230495699945==-- From grimmer@suse.de Tue Apr 13 08:15:18 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Navy using MSFltSim to train pilots Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:15:18 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5403500978596155165==" --===============5403500978596155165== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Michael Hasenstein wrote: > Also, I've never seen it crash. The flightsim itself seems to have > been programmed well. No wonder. MS didn't write it themselves, they just bought the complete company who initially made it (Sublogic, IIRC) :) Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5403500978596155165==-- From sudheer@easi.soft.net Tue Apr 13 08:17:12 1999 From: sudheer@easi.soft.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Symbolic links vs. hard link Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:47:12 +0530 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1874684631629411656==" --===============1874684631629411656== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are right! For the reason the size of the sym-link file is the size of either source file name or (source file name + absolute path upto the file). udheer On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Herbert Stocker HSH[1126] wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > What you said about soft links is correct. They can be compared to Windows > shortcuts. But the difference is, that soft links are something, the > operating system understands, and therefore every program works with it > and not only the windows explorer. And a soft link only contains the file > name of the target, but no icon info, or such things. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hell >=20 >=20 > --=20 > hell (Herbert Stocker) > : > mailto:hell(a)stusta.mhn.de = \ Hell is also \ > http://hell.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> \ my NickName \ > goto:D->MUC->StuSta->HSH[1126] \ in RealLive. \=C3=97 > : >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1874684631629411656==-- From daleg@preferred.com Tue Apr 13 08:54:12 1999 From: daleg@preferred.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Broken "SANE" Link to HP ScanJet 5p Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:54:12 +0000 Message-ID: <37130634.5170E553@preferred.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6025525265740901448==" --===============6025525265740901448== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello List, When I first set up my HP scanner with SANE, it worked great. Now, I have to give it a command line argument to get SANE to find it. This also broke the scanner as a plug-in for GIMP. I wrote a little script with the arguments in it but, when GIMP loads its plug-ins on startup it runs SANE and I have to close it before GIMP will finish loading. I know I must have done something dumb to cause the problem but for the life of me I can't find it, and I've been looking for about three weeks -- off and on. Could anyone shead some light on this scanundrum. :-) Lovin' that Linux, Dale -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6025525265740901448==-- From andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 13 09:35:38 1999 From: andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Postgresql & borland products Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:35:38 +0100 Message-ID: <001401be8590$fdd2fb80$1701a8c0@andy.mcr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0657515903681862343==" --===============0657515903681862343== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am trying to use PostgreSql with borland Paradox and Delphi. I seem to be able to construct a form or table but when I add records in, say, a tableframe, it just displays the last record before I added the new one. For example, Before adding:- Field 1 Field 2 1 10 2 20 After adding a new record with values of 3 and 30 into fields it still displays the same values as above. However, if I then close the table or tableframe and re-open the new values are displayed with the old ones as expected, thus, 1 10 2 20 3 30 What is going on? Any help greatly appreciated. Regards Andy Bennett -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0657515903681862343==-- From wybo@servalys.hobby.nl Tue Apr 13 09:36:19 1999 From: wybo@servalys.hobby.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Broken "SANE" Link to HP ScanJet 5p Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:36:19 +0200 Message-ID: <199904130936.LAA04885@servalys.hobby.nl> In-Reply-To: <37130634.5170E553@preferred.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6765046678551660912==" --===============6765046678551660912== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > When I first set up my HP scanner with SANE, it worked great. Now, I > have to give it a command line argument to get SANE to find it. This > also broke the scanner as a plug-in for GIMP. I wrote a little script > with the arguments in it but, when GIMP loads its plug-ins on startup it > runs SANE and I have to close it before GIMP will finish loading. I > know I must have done something dumb to cause the problem but for the > life of me I can't find it, and I've been looking for about three weeks > -- off and on. Could anyone shead some light on this scanundrum. :-) I had the same problem and solved part of it by running scanimage as follows: canimage -d hp:/dev/sg2 But I cannot use my scanner in gimp anymore... --=20 Hartelijke groet, Wybo Dekker ___________________Servalys Analytical Chemistry Services__________________ wybo(a)servalys.hobby.nl | Deilsedijk 60 | tel +31-345-652164 www.hobby.nl/~servalys | 4158 CH Deil, The Netherlands | fax +31-345-652383 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6765046678551660912==-- From grimmer@suse.de Tue Apr 13 10:02:40 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading from 5.3 to 6.0 - suggestions needed Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:02:40 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003b01be850a$7c294840$93d64e0c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2424556182023225499==" --===============2424556182023225499== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, W. Sean McGrath wrote: > I'm upgrading from SUSE 5.3 to 6.0 and was wondering how painless or > painful this can be? Do I need to reformat my hard drives and start > from scratch? Can I install ontop of 5.3? I'm a real newbie so any > suggestions would be apreciated... Upgrading without reformatting should be possible. I did it on my personal machine and it worked after some minor manual corrections. You mileage may vary, though. Either way you should backup valuable files first! Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2424556182023225499==-- From grimmer@suse.de Tue Apr 13 10:21:28 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.1 .... Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:21:28 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7924052017702746504==" --===============7924052017702746504== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Michael Johnson wrote: > Re E ( the Enlightened Window Manager ) it should be noted that the > version of libpng that shipped with 6.0 is broken in respect to E. I > have to say, I do not use the E that ships with SuSE as I am following > it via CVS but if you try to compile CVS with libpng 2.1.0.2-24 you > wil get some of Rasters playful erros messages have No Joy through > Enlightenment. I think a note about this maybe should be included-- > that some apps 'struggle' with that version of libpng. I am not so > sure why SuSE continues to ship DR14, though, since some of the later > versions ( DR15) seems to me to have augmented Enlightenment and > includes nice features like EConfig and some other enhancements )). I > strongly suggest moving the release up to the supposedly 'unstable' > DR15 as it is much better IMHO than DR14. Thanks for the info, I'll contact our maintainer of E. > In speaking of E in this 'too long' mail, is Eterm included in SuSE? Not yet... > If not shouldn't it be? It is sort the Enlightenment terminal and I > can't understand when something like the enigmatic EMusic is included > but I see no mention of Michael Jenning's Eterm program. That makes no > sense to me, especially since the later is really stable and the > former is buggy as hell, in my experience. Anyway... I guess, someone already has it on his TODO. If not, I'll forward you message to feedback to add ETerm to the wishlist. :-) > Sendmail is not mentioned on the site from what I could see in the > 'Updated Packages' section ( which is right below the list of new > packages ) . This in spite of the fact that many have requested the > upgrade. Hopefully whoever manages the site will make sure that the > Sendmail upgrade to 8.9.3 will be mentioned from the 8.8* that SuSE > has been shipping with so long. Not because it's a major transition > but because it concerns customers inquiring in respect to this > particular upgrade and it might deter some of the "Why does SuSE ship > with such an old sendmail?" questions/complaints. Fortunately, we will have sendmail 8.9.3 on SuSE 6.1. We should update this page... > Humorously, "John the Ripper"-- the app that I asked about that > 'tests' passwords has been added. So I guess those people who sent me > the private mail about my request being inappropriate to the nature of > the list were mistaken. :-) Inclusion of nmap was nice move as well. > Snes9x and x11amp ( I'm assuming this is the gtk+ opened up version > that you're talking about ) were also some more nice touches. >=20 > Question: I see ( as discussed in another thread ) that Postfix will > be with 6.1, but understand that some people (Hubert, others ) are > already using it on their SuSE linux boxes. Can some people that > prefer Postfix to Sendmail, tell me why they prefer it. I've been > hearing about it for a while and have the sources but haven't actually > tried it yet and would like to hear some opinions from the rank and > file. Simple: it's fast and easier to configure. :) It is also said to be safer, but I do not have any practical experience with it. > Nice to see Linux 2.2.5 shipping 'out of the box' come May with 6.1.=20 >=20 > Once again, the SuSE guys seem to have outdone themselves. I applaud > you and am anticipating another great release. Thanks for handling the > transition so beautifully, and SuSE linux ( as you know ) will be my > recomendation to anyone who asks when they ask me for a distribution > recomendation. Thanks for your positive comments. Best regards, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7924052017702746504==-- From grimmer@suse.de Tue Apr 13 10:33:11 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.1 .... Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:33:11 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990413090841372.AAA352@ns1.globalfrontiers.com@Client569> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2365980401615632704==" --===============2365980401615632704== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, joe lerch wrote: > Will SuSE subscribers receive a 6.1 update disk automatically, or must > we order the 6.1 upgrade? This is what I read in <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Order/subscribe.htmlhttp://www.suse.com/Or= der/subscribe.html> : "Just enter your subscription online or conventionally, and three to four times a year, we will ship you a brand new SuSE Linux!" So it seems, you do not have to order it again, once you are subscribed. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2365980401615632704==-- From KEdmunds@eu.wcom.net Tue Apr 13 10:35:45 1999 From: KEdmunds@eu.wcom.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Apache STOP/Start Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:35:45 +0100 Message-ID: <61EC0C104A7DD211A29B00805FAD4FBA4BBDFB@UKR-EXCH-01> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Apache STOP/Start> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3675900742339063630==" --===============3675900742339063630== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > You can also invoke the script with the 'status' parameter. Also,=20 ps ax|grep httpd will list the http daemon processes - if there aren't any, it isn't running. Keith -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3675900742339063630==-- From grimmer@suse.de Tue Apr 13 11:05:37 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) {QMail} Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:05:37 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37126A29.4301ACE9@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4621587733257673171==" --===============4621587733257673171== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Michael Merritt wrote: > First, I'm not sure what's being referred to here as "standard" > directories. SuSE, RedHat, Debian, et. al., each use their own > "default" directory structures, most of which are different that the > one that is used if I compile/install my own version of the package > (take Apache, for example -- SuSE and RH scatter the configuration > files to all ends of the earth, whereas the default installation puts > everything in /usr/local/apache). /usr/local is used for packages, which do not belong to the distribution itself. This is just for convenience, so you don't mix up self-installed files with the rest of the distribution. See www.pathname.com/fhs for further details. > Is Qmail not "free" just because SuSE can't make a custom .rpm of it > which puts the configuration files in seven million different places > instead of /var/qmail? Putting everyting in /var/qmail makes a whole > boatload more sense to me than does to modify it -- I have never seen a > problem with qmail's dir structure. Can someone from SuSE elaborate on > just why exactly "we were not allowed to put it on CD" (Lenz Grimmer)? Maybe "not allowed" was not the correct term. We have looked at qmail and have decided in favor of Postfix over qmail for certain reasons. The strange licensing terms were just one of them. We now have two MTAs on the CDs, sendmail and postfix. Since an MTA is a very essential part of the distribution, we do not want to mess the base system with too many options. And qmail _is_ different in many terms... Just think of the local delivery to users. This would also require to modify other tools like pop-deamons, etc... > If it is a matter of it not being "free," KDE has been on the distro > since long before qt was ever made semi-open-source, and IMO, qmail is > still a lot more "free" than is qt. I think that the user should have > the option on whether he wants qmail, sendmail, postfix, or another MTA, > not being forced to install sendmail or nothing by default, downloading > qmail, etc., etc... I see. But I hope, our reasons are now clear as well. Our decision was not purely based on the licensing issue, there are technical terms involved as well. > Now, of course, I realize that there can only be some 650 MB worth of > packages placed on the CD-ROM, but shouldn't the second most popular > and the most secure (fact, not my opinion...) MTA be included before > some of these other lesser-known packages? Have a look at Postfix. I am sure, it can be compared with qmail in terms of security and speed. See www.postfix.org for more details. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4621587733257673171==-- From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Tue Apr 13 11:35:43 1999 From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Network packets routing to lo Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:35:43 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <371268AD.A352F0F5@tinet.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3171813512909201279==" --===============3171813512909201279== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, did you restart inetd after updating the routing table? post output of: # ifconfig -a # netstat -rn On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, G'leth wrote: > I've an ethernet connection between a SparcStation LX and my PC going > through a hub, unfortunately when I try to get my SuSE 6.0 installation > to talk to the network nothing happens. I looked at the routing and the > card setup and found that, as far as I could see, all the information > was as the man pages/how-tos said it should be. Using cat /proc/net/dev > I saw that all the packets are being routed to the localhost (lo) > instead of going to eth0, my 3Com 595 T4 ethernet card. I have rebuilt > the routing table both by hand and via YAST, and have checked that the > card is set up ok. I even got my work Sysadmin to take a look, adn he > couldn't find anything obviously wrong. >=20 > So, what I would like to know is: Is there any special file or setup > specific to SuSE that I have missed? Or is there anything that you could > tell me to check, as ifconfig, netstat, route, cat /proc/net/dev and > YAST all show the networking information as correct... (to add insult to > injury I managed to get windows95 to work with the network first > time!) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3171813512909201279==-- From M.vanOostende@inter.NL.net Tue Apr 13 11:39:23 1999 From: M.vanOostende@inter.NL.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Auto power-off Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:39:23 +0200 Message-ID: <37132CEB.68ED@inter.NL.net> In-Reply-To: <3712660D.25C99F5C@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0758069462067064504==" --===============0758069462067064504== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why not try the SCO way, this saves you another four seconds :-) shutdown -y -g0 Can't find it documented anywhere, but it works ok for me. Automatic power-off should be nice, though... Marco ---------------------- Michael Merritt wrote: > --------------8<------------- > The way I turn mine off (for hardware > changes) is to do a -- > shutdown -rf now > and when the BIOS screen comes up after rebooting, kill the power. > --------------8<------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0758069462067064504==-- From M.vanOostende@inter.NL.net Tue Apr 13 11:58:53 1999 From: M.vanOostende@inter.NL.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Navy using MSFltSim to train pilots Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:58:53 +0200 Message-ID: <3713317D.3380@inter.NL.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3721960103059888983==" --===============3721960103059888983== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmm, becomes a bit off-topic here... sorry in advance. I use the program since the early 80's, version FS2 back then, using an Apple II (long, long ago). Even though it is sold by Microsoft, the flight engine itself is originally written and maintained by SubLogic until version 5. I have to admit that I feel recent versions to fly less natural. Stuff in the earlier versions that needs accurate settings did not show as good as they do now, but were much easier to use as it does now. But then, as long as it looks good, it sells better. And yes, recent versions do crash on my system. Most of the time after a 'short' flight between let's say Oslo and Mallorca, 10 minutes before landing :-( The program itself is very good for getting basic knowledge on flying though. Regs, Marco ------------------------- Michael Hasenstein wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > > That obviously includes crash traing.... >=20 > That statement is not based on facts and is not helpful. >=20 > Fact is, MS flightsim is damn good. See my signature below, I know what > I'm talking about. It doesn't have FAA approval merely because you need to > certify the flight controls with the software, and FAA certified > simulators (i.e. you can log some of the hours in your flight log as > 'simulated instrument' flight time) are for IFR (instrument flight rules) > training only, while MS FS tries to be useful for VFR flight (visual > flight rules) as well. Otherwise they don't need to change a lot if they'd > want such certification. It helped me quite a bit in my own training. >=20 > Also, I've never seen it crash. The flightsim itself seems to have been > programmed well. >=20 > -- > Michael Hasenstein > http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/> > Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3721960103059888983==-- From mstriani@cvtci.com.ar Tue Apr 13 12:21:15 1999 From: mstriani@cvtci.com.ar To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Can't use de kppp Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:21:15 -0300 Message-ID: <001a01be85a8$22e22b00$0cc8c8c8@mariano> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3464489870924164473==" --===============3464489870924164473== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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--===============3464489870924164473==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Tue Apr 13 13:37:25 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:37:25 -0700 Message-ID: <199904131337.GAA16300@www1.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1931919792101305400==" --===============1931919792101305400== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ewan Dunbar wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > This is DEAD wrong in a lot of areas...but, you should read it. > Where? I haven't found any problems with it. WAY better than that WSJ > article. =20 Yes, I fail to see where it is dead wrong... especially in a "lot" of=20 areas. Please explain. Karsten Johansson ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - http://orders.xoom.com/email> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1931919792101305400==-- From imm@KidsCare.Net Tue Apr 13 13:52:58 1999 From: imm@KidsCare.Net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] console mod ? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:52:58 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7633572973262829457==" --===============7633572973262829457== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I tried the setterm but what file do I add these lines to keep setterm settings. It's not exactly what I had in mind but not that important either I was just curious to see if there were console themes or something. thanks for the info! It's not a bad idea though ansi themes for console. L8OR ian Malaclypse the Younger "bombing for peace is like whoring for virginity" hekate(a)intergate.bc.ca writes: >You can use ansi escape sequences to modify the look of your prompt or to >display certain messages in color in your scripts etc or $HOME/.*rc files >, e.g., .bash_profile etc. I'm not sure how much you want to modify or >what you want to do. But a quick ( and perhaps lame ) example might be >typing : echo -e "\o33[35mExample color sequence\033[37m" at the prompt. >It prints up the words "Example color sequence" in purple onto the >console. If you put that into your .bashrc ( with some different string >etc.) it would display this everytime you logon. You can also use >different characters etc. You can find different docs, or whatever, on the >web. Not sure if this is what you meant, though.=20 > >Of course you can also change the bgcolor and fonts etc. with setterm >program. But I'm sure this is not the kind of mod you mean. :-) Just >another FWIW.=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7633572973262829457==-- From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Tue Apr 13 14:00:15 1999 From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help - Internet connection. Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:00:15 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37112E85.B1F2C538@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8150832372135465794==" --===============8150832372135465794== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI Jerry et al; On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > In only one line: > KDE has a program, Kppp, that is almost identical in operation to > Windows "dial" program. > If you need help for the settings let us know... YES!! I need too help with Kppp. When I try to connect I get "Serial line is looped back." Do you have any ideas? Or at least point me toward what could be wrong. Thanks! J I M ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany=20 hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ---------------------------------------------- Tired of "King Klinton I" & the Oral Office? Join the Libertarian Party! Check out www.lp.org -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8150832372135465794==-- From nick@ray.ru Tue Apr 13 14:05:38 1999 From: nick@ray.ru To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] MASQ not for all Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:05:38 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3321145488492695053==" --===============3321145488492695053== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello, =20 maybe you can help me... =20 I use ipchains for masquerade. =20 ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d 0/0 -j MASQ =20 But I need an exclusion for 192.168.2.0/24 network, because I have a direct route to it network (direct and reverse too). =20 How I can make an exclusion in masuerade rules? =20 =20 Thank you. =20 =20 =20 =20 Nick K. Kozubsky nick(a)ray.ru Tel: +7 0112 350601 FAX: +7 0112 350603 Rem: No Microsoft products were used in the production of this message. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3321145488492695053==-- From wybo@servalys.hobby.nl Tue Apr 13 14:39:12 1999 From: wybo@servalys.hobby.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] cddb database Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:39:12 +0200 Message-ID: <199904131439.QAA03930@servalys.hobby.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9107324129733493773==" --===============9107324129733493773== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The cddb database on the 5th disk of suse-6.0 is empty - is is possible to somehow fill it with the relevant data for one's cd-collection by searching the net with the ID's of those CD's?=20 --=20 Hartelijke groet, Wybo Dekker ___________________Servalys Analytical Chemistry Services__________________ wybo(a)servalys.hobby.nl | Deilsedijk 60 | tel +31-345-652164 www.hobby.nl/~servalys | 4158 CH Deil, The Netherlands | fax +31-345-652383 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9107324129733493773==-- From emarch@enteract.com Tue Apr 13 14:43:39 1999 From: emarch@enteract.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Nedit Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:43:39 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003b01be850a$7c294840$93d64e0c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5292809233918897939==" --===============5292809233918897939== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to all you who suggested=20 I rm 'usr/x11/lib/x11/app-defaults/Nedit' to get the accelerator keys working!! Im confused tho, I save the file cp Nedit Nedit.original and presto all the Ctrl keys worked for the menus and DEL now worked as BACKSPACE (yuk!) =20 I added my own accelerator keys in my home ~.Xdefaults like nedit*SearchMenu:GotoLineNumber: ALTg these never worked, yet i cant change teh accelearator text of what appears on the menu, but not use them to do the fucntion. Then i copied back the Nedit.original to Nedit and it seem to do=20 nothing. The accelerator keys are still there and DEL works like BS.=20 Q. Is there something im missing with this Nedit stuff ?=20 Q. Why doesnt .Xdefaults assign the keys like teh Nedit Doc says ? Thanks again guys ! Best Regards,=20 Ed //------------------------------------------------------------------------ // Edward March Jr. WB9RAA -- Mt. Prospect, IL =20 // // ***> http://www.enteract.com/~emarch> // ***> http://www.bmtmicro.com/catalog/c= lone.html> // // Win95 or Better, I chose better!=20 // I Run OS/2 Warp 3.0 & 4.0 and Linux S.u.S.E. 5.3 and 6.0 //------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5292809233918897939==-- From arjen@technologist.com Tue Apr 13 14:55:27 1999 From: arjen@technologist.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] FW: Patches on CD-ROM (how-to) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:55:27 +0200 Message-ID: <000401be85bd$ab15d340$6300a8c0@amr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3916818337325778872==" --===============3916818337325778872== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Arjen Runsink [mailto:arjen(= a)technologist.com] Verzonden: maandag 12 april 1999 12:09 Aan: SuSE linux e Onderwerp: Patches on CD-ROM (how-to) Hello all, So I am still new to Linux, but digging through. On the CD-ROM for SuSE 6.0 is a sub-dir called patches. For starters, what is the proper way to get these to work. When I point yast towards it I can select the kernel patch (not the ones in a dir lower) and this extracts the lot to /patches . Or does it actually do more? I have read the README in /usr/src/linux the .tgz file not really follows patch naming conventions and contains a sub dir from SuSE. So I am hesistant in using the way described in there. Anyone.... ?? BB, Arjen -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3916818337325778872==-- From lsayre@stratos.net Tue Apr 13 14:57:34 1999 From: lsayre@stratos.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] 6.1 pre-order on USA web site? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:57:34 -0400 Message-ID: <37135B5E.BE2865CD@stratos.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1365940834059792771==" --===============1365940834059792771== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was visiting the German SuSE web site and went to order 6.1, but on the ordering page it said to jump to the US site for US orders. A hyperlink to the US web site ordering page was provided. However, on the ordering page of the US site, 6.1 is nowhere to be found! Lawrence Sayre --------------------------------------------- "Man's mind is his basic tool of survival!" (a quote from the famous 'John Galt' speech=20 in the equally famous book "Atlas Shrugged") Lawrence Sayre --------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1365940834059792771==-- From i0100285@ingstud.univ.trieste.it Tue Apr 13 15:03:08 1999 From: i0100285@ingstud.univ.trieste.it To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] machine off at shutdown Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:03:08 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001201be8209$53236e20$6f1fc19d@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4174553465977591811==" --===============4174553465977591811== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, you can modify the halt script to poweroff your PC I knew that suse6.0 has this script modified, infact if you send a poweroff command, the PC will poweroff Try with halt -p <---note that this option is not supported in old version Ciao, alessio -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4174553465977591811==-- From i0100285@ingstud.univ.trieste.it Tue Apr 13 15:04:29 1999 From: i0100285@ingstud.univ.trieste.it To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Auto power-off Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:04:29 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Auto power-off> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8203920353344656994==" --===============8203920353344656994== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable why not? anyway, if you want and if you have the right hardware, you can easily poweroff the whole machine, sending a poweroff command or giving a halt with '-p' option That's all... I knew that this works on many linux distribution, not with mine, also beacuse I think my hardware is not full supported by Linux (AX59Pro with MVP3 chipset) Ciao, Alessio -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8203920353344656994==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Tue Apr 13 15:15:57 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.5 kernel compile Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:15:57 +0100 Message-ID: <199904131516.QAA14913@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1307337554040977143==" --===============1307337554040977143== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello After much scratching of heads by some senior IT persons I've finally=20 worked out how to compile a 2.2.5 kernel. The kernel compile for a=20 166Mhz machine was/is as follows from a tar.gz source (apologies to=20 those who can stand on their heads and do this) =20 cd /usr/src rm linux tar zxvf linux-2.2.5.tar.gz (assuming that the linux-2.2.5.tar.gz file is in /usr/src - =20 copy/paste in X-windows) mv linux linux-2.2.5 ln -s linux-2.2.5 linux cd linux =20 make xconfig (in X-windows) at this point it pays to wake up a bit.... - ... there is a=20 default setting for multi-processor support which is of no use=20 whatsoever for the normal PC user. Watch out for it !! Select the=20 processor that suits your own needs. make dep make clean make bzImage --ignore-errors make modules make modules_install make bzlilo And then reboot and get ready for the worst. I should point out that SuSE do not recommend or support this kind=20 of DIY computing so you have been warned. So far I haven't found=20 what's broken. That comes next. I thought that someone else might like to know what to do with the=20 2.2.5 kernel compile. Thanks Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1307337554040977143==-- From jbennett@syr.edu Tue Apr 13 15:24:06 1999 From: jbennett@syr.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Using Lilo to boot NT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:24:06 +0000 Message-ID: <199904131524.PAA20954@maxwell.syr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3915339983485472622==" --===============3915339983485472622== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am unable to make lilo boot NT. Linux' / resides on sda1. Lilo wrote the MBR on sda, using lilo.conf below. NT is installed on sdb (achieved by physically unplugging the power to sda in order to fool it into thinking that sdb was the only disk; no way else could I get my OEM NT Workstation cdrom to install on the 2nd disk); so c: and d: are partitions sdb1 and sdb2, resp. If I continue with the power off to sda, then NT boots fine, using its "own" MBR on sdb. When I have both disks powered up and try to use Lilo to boot NT I get=20 a message to the effect that ntldr (located in c:\ ) isn't found. I know that I can't specify=20 ntldr's location using "image =3D" because it pertains only to linux. Is there another way to do this? I don't know what the "table =3D" accomplishes. Should a different command be used? =20 # Start LILO global Section boot=3D/dev/hda =20 ... # Begin First linux boot option image =3D /vmlinuz =20 root =3D /dev/sda1 =20 label =3D linux # End first linux boot option # Begin Second (old) linux boot option ... # End 2nd linux boot option # Begin NT boot option other =3D /dev/sdb1 =20 label =3D NT table =3D /dev/sdb # End NT boot option __________________________________________________ jim bennett -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3915339983485472622==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 13 15:25:26 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] interbase linux/win98 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:25:26 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990413152526.010230d0@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5546017314914283663==" --===============5546017314914283663== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Have any of you used or tried interbase on linux ?? I have a few delphi paradox apps that I am considering rewriting to use interbase , and would like to now if any of you have set up the interbase server on linux and weahther windows apps can use the linux interbase server ?? Aslo do any of you know if id has a jdbc driver?? How easy is it to set up interbase ?? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5546017314914283663==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 13 15:39:50 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] sql for linux and can windows apps access the linux sql server ?? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:39:50 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990413153950.0101e254@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3477786285824654476==" --===============3477786285824654476== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks ,=20 I would like to set up an sql server on linux for the widows apps to acess . 1/ can this be done ? 2/ I am looking at 2 to 3 users with a max of 5 users. two or three apps. 3/ I want to keep it simple and basic nothing fancy. 4/ I will nees jdbc support as I am looking to move to java 5/ how hard / easw is it to set up the server ? 6/ how hard / easy ios it to get the windows apps to see the server ? Do you just need to set up the driver . or give the ipaddress ??? any pitfalls in what I want to do ?? Thanks Samy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3477786285824654476==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Apr 13 16:04:04 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Nedit Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:04:04 +0200 Message-ID: <19990413180404.A3932@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6165024655019973562==" --===============6165024655019973562== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 1999 at 09:43 -0500, Edward March wrote: [nedit] > I added my own accelerator keys in my home ~.Xdefaults > like nedit*SearchMenu:GotoLineNumber: ALTg > these never worked, yet i cant change teh accelearator text > of what appears on the menu, but not use them to do the fucntion. The way to bind Alt+G to `Goto Line Number' is nedit*searchMenu.gotoLineNumber.accelerator: AltG nedit*searchMenu.gotoLineNumber.acceleratorText: Alt+G =20 The first entry changes the key binding, the second one changes the menu text to show `Alt+G'. > nothing. The accelerator keys are still there and DEL works like > BS.=20 If you don't like this, an nedit.remapDeleteKey: False =20 hould fix it. Ciao, Stefan Btw. If you reply to a previous list message then *please* use the reply function of your mailer on that message rather then replying to a completely different message. Thanks. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6165024655019973562==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Tue Apr 13 16:14:43 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.1 .... Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:14:43 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990413090841372.AAA352@ns1.globalfrontiers.com@Client569> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3235582706141515496==" --===============3235582706141515496== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, joe lerch wrote: >=20 > Will SuSE subscribers receive a 6.1 update disk automatically, > or must we order the 6.1 upgrade? >=20 > thanks in advance >=20 > joe Subscribers should be among the first to get it when it comes out. At least ( with the exception of the one time my order got screwed up ) that's what's happened with me. Being subscribed means they send you a copy and bill you as the new releases come out.=20 _____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- M i c h a e l J o h n s o n -=20 e r o s @ a n d u i n . e l d a r . o r g P o w e r e d by L I N U X : K E R N E L 2 . 2 . 5 Please support Free Software and Open Source !!=20 ____________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3235582706141515496==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Tue Apr 13 16:16:35 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading from 5.3 to 6.0 - suggestions needed Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:16:35 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2860722121116435026==" --===============2860722121116435026== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > > I'm upgrading from SUSE 5.3 to 6.0 and was wondering how painless or > > painful this can be? Do I need to reformat my hard drives and start > > from scratch? Can I install ontop of 5.3? I'm a real newbie so any > > suggestions would be apreciated... >=20 > Upgrading without reformatting should be possible. I did it on my personal > machine and it worked after some minor manual corrections. You mileage may > vary, though. Either way you should backup valuable files first! Well, ditto here. I upgraded almost everything with few problems. I did back up some files first just to be safe, and of course another consideration is files you have custom settings for you want to role over to the new installation. Put 'em somewhere safe.=20 _____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- M i c h a e l J o h n s o n -=20 e r o s @ a n d u i n . e l d a r . o r g P o w e r e d by L I N U X : K E R N E L 2 . 2 . 5 Please support Free Software and Open Source !!=20 ____________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2860722121116435026==-- From karl.stas@rug.ac.be Tue Apr 13 16:30:04 1999 From: karl.stas@rug.ac.be To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] KCharset: Wrong Charset! Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:30:04 +0200 Message-ID: <001f01be85ea$df215e20$511fc19d@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3759036417088975553==" --===============3759036417088975553== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anybody know why this message appears on the console whenever you open a document in KDE? Or am I the only one who is experiencing this annoying (but seemingly harmless) bug? Karl Stas -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3759036417088975553==-- From e.maryniak@pobox.com Tue Apr 13 16:32:12 1999 From: e.maryniak@pobox.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:32:12 +0200 Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990413183212.06c1dca0@ip005.niwi.knaw.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2346332641593695054==" --===============2346332641593695054== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a graphics card, identified in the win98 registry (sorry) as "RAGE IIC AGP"; unfortunately i don't have the manuals. Is this card the same as "ATI 3D Rage IIc" in support database: http://www.su= se.de/Support/sdb_e/mkraft_atirageIIc.html> where it says to put ChipId 0x4755 and ChipRev 0x01 in /etc/XF86Config? And is this card different (component database), 0x4754 instead of 0x4755: http://cdb.suse.de/cgi-bin/cdb.cgi?lang 0E%3aVENDOR 0ATI%3a= NAME 03DRAGE 02C which is named "ATI 3DRAGE-2C"? So my questions are to be precize: 1. Should I use the Mach64 driver for "RAGE IIC AGP" and with what ChipId/ChipRev numbers and is it supported in SuSE 6.1? 2. On a related note: does anybody got the VMware (http://www.vmware.com/>) Mach64 version of their X server to work for this specific card? Thanx for any help, kind regards, Eric Maryniak -- Eric Maryniak Home page: http://pobox.com/~e.maryniak/> Netherlands Institute for Scientific Information Services (NIWI) Tel/Fax: +31 20 4628650/6685079. Internet: http://www.niwi.knaw.nl/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2346332641593695054==-- From grimmer@suse.de Tue Apr 13 17:05:41 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which ChipId/ChipRevin SuSE 6.1? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:05:41 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990413183212.06c1dca0@ip005.niwi.knaw.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3925168971275645560==" --===============3925168971275645560== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Eric Maryniak wrote: > I have a graphics card, identified in the win98 registry (sorry) as > "RAGE IIC AGP"; unfortunately i don't have the manuals. >=20 > Is this card the same as "ATI 3D Rage IIc" in support database: >=20 > http://www.= suse.de/Support/sdb_e/mkraft_atirageIIc.html> >=20 > where it says to put ChipId 0x4755 and ChipRev 0x01 in /etc/XF86Config? > And is this card different (component database), 0x4754 instead of 0x4755: >=20 > http://cdb.suse.de/cgi-bin/cdb.cgi?lang 0E%3aVENDOR 0ATI%= 3aNAME 03DRAGE 02C >=20 > which is named "ATI 3DRAGE-2C"? So my questions are to be precize: >=20 > 1. Should I use the Mach64 driver for "RAGE IIC AGP" and with what > ChipId/ChipRev numbers and is it supported in SuSE 6.1? This hack should not be necessary for newer releases of XFree. XFree 3.3.3 (and up) support this chipset. > 2. On a related note: does anybody got the VMware (http://www.vmware.com/>) > Mach64 version of their X server to work for this specific card? Sorry, I don't know. I just tested vmware briefly :) Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3925168971275645560==-- From linux1@federal.crc.com Tue Apr 13 17:12:09 1999 From: linux1@federal.crc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] HP550c setup on 6.0 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:12:09 -0400 Message-ID: <000601be85d0$c4650880$0100a8c0@punt> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3242469820692722766==" --===============3242469820692722766== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I cant find where this was answered before. I have an hp550c printer on a windows machine. On the linux box I added a network printer (via yast) to use samba. It all works except the font is way to small. In addition, how do i change it from printing two pages on one in landscape mode? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3242469820692722766==-- From mperry@basin.com Tue Apr 13 17:37:12 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:37:12 -0700 Message-ID: <199904131737.KAA00617@speedy.linuxcare.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2398348029516938780==" --===============2398348029516938780== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13 Apr, Lenz Grimmer wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Eric Maryniak wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> 1. Should I use the Mach64 driver for "RAGE IIC AGP" and with what >> ChipId/ChipRev numbers and is it supported in SuSE 6.1? >=20 > This hack should not be necessary for newer releases of XFree. XFree 3.3.3 > (and up) support this chipset. >=20 >> 2. On a related note: does anybody got the VMware (http://www.vmware.com/>) >> Mach64 version of their X server to work for this specific card? >=20 > Sorry, I don't know. I just tested vmware briefly :) >=20 > Bye, > LenZ >=20 I am using build 106 of the vmware beta on a dell inspiron laptop here running a win98 client session with no issues. The inspiron ships with a 8mb ATI RAGe II video card. Earliery builds of vmware had some issues with the card and my hacked mach64 server. This build seems to be okay. I also am using vmware's svga driver for the guest video to smooth things a bit. ONly issues I have with vmware now is that vmnet-bridge does not start reliably. --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com -------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2398348029516938780==-- From tschlemmer@sequeltech.com Tue Apr 13 17:43:43 1999 From: tschlemmer@sequeltech.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading from 5.3 to 6.0 - suggestions needed Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:43:43 -0700 Message-ID: <3713824F.C8AA2A4E@sequeltech.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1096970393514399840==" --===============1096970393514399840== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YaST/RPM seems to do a good job saving files that you have made custom changes too. I found that files that I had made a few custom changes to would be renamed with a .rpmsave suffix added to them. I didn't lose anything although I had to go back and add my custom tweaks back in after my SuSE 6.0 upgrade was complete.=20 I had a few upgrade issues going from 5.3 to 6.0. My original posts should be in the March 1999 suse-linux-e list archive which resides on the SuSE website. Michael Johnson wrote: >=20 > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > > > I'm upgrading from SUSE 5.3 to 6.0 and was wondering how painless or > > > painful this can be? Do I need to reformat my hard drives and start > > > from scratch? Can I install ontop of 5.3? I'm a real newbie so any > > > suggestions would be apreciated... > > > > Upgrading without reformatting should be possible. I did it on my personal > > machine and it worked after some minor manual corrections. You mileage may > > vary, though. Either way you should backup valuable files first! >=20 > Well, ditto here. I upgraded almost everything with few problems. I did > back up some files first just to be safe, and of course another > consideration is files you have custom settings for you want to role over > to the new installation. Put 'em somewhere safe. > ___________________________________________________________________________= __ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > M i c h a e l J o h n s o n - > e r o s @ a n d u i n . e l d a r . o r g > P o w e r e d by L I N U X : K E R N E L 2 . 2 . 5 > Please support Free Software and Open Source !! > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Tony --=20 Tony Schlemmer Sequel Technology Corp. 3245 146th PL SE, Suite 300 Bellevue, WA 98007 Tel: (425) 556-4008 Fax: (425) 556-4042 mailto:tschlemmer(a)sequeltech= .com http://www.sequeltech.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1096970393514399840==-- From mperry@basin.com Tue Apr 13 17:56:46 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Fwd: RHAD Labs announces GNOME 1.0 RPMS for Red Hat Linux 5.2 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:56:46 -0700 Message-ID: <199904131756.KAA00691@speedy.linuxcare.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1456947501229926147==" --===============1456947501229926147== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am forwarding this message from the gnome mailing list in the hopes that SuSE Management will see that supporting gnome with periodic releases of enhanced rpm packages is a good idea!! I would like to encourage SuSE to take a look at enhancing their releases of rpm updates to include updating gnome to the latest level. Many people would like to try gnome but are dissuaded by the rather unusual package dependencies and the intricacies of compiling almost 20 programs that may have a whole bunch of other requirements. I am quite interested in building the later versions of the gnome core, control-center, and libs from sources; but I also think that releasing rpm packs is a great way for a new person to see what something like gnome has to offer. Thanks for reading this!! ------ Forwarded message ------ =20 RHAD Labs Announces GNOME 1.0 For Red Hat Linux 5.2 --------------------------------------------------- RHAD Labs is proud to present a collection of RPMS for GNOME 1.0 which have been crafted to fit cleanly into a stock Red Hat Linux 5.2 system. This release is representative of over a year of work by RHAD Labs and the GNOME community to create a free desktop. We have extensively tested GNOME 1.0, and feel this release of RPMS is a significantly more stable environment than the=20 initial 1.0 release. If you tried the initial set of RPMS we encourage you to upgrade - you will be impressed. In particular, here are some of the issues with the initial 1.0=20 release that RHAD Labs have addressed: - Owen Taylor has implemented a simpler and more reliable session management (SM) mechanism. Layered on top of the core GNOME SM libraries, the new mechanism allows the user the option of saving their desktop state only when they want it to, instead of automatically when they log out. We have found this to work extremely well with our test subjects at Red Hat. =20 - Federico de Mena and Jonathan Blandford have been working for several months on making gmc (the GNOME file manager) stable and functional. The latest version (4.5.30) is a vast improvement over its state in Jan/Feb 1999. - David Mason has updated his extensive GNOME User's Guide=20 (over 100 pages!), which Red Hat is releasing under the GPL, as well as updating help text for the GNOME Control Center and the GNOME Panel. - The Rasterman has a new version of Enlightenment which=20 addresses many bugs people have reported, and has a few new themes (hint: now you can really confuse your WindowMaker friends). - Jonathan Blandford has written a new Mime Type capplet which allows you to define actions associated with a particular file type (you can specify the .gif files are to be opened with ee, and .png files are to be opened with the GIMP, for example). Bugs in existing capplets have been fixed as well. - Dr Mike has been working on more closely integrating GNOME and the Red Hat distribution, as well as being in charge of building=20 this new set of Red Hat RPMS for GNOME. =20 - the Labs members and the rest of the GNOME community have fixed=20 hundreds of reported bugs. =20 This set of RPMS was built using gcc on the Intel platform (previous RPMS were built with egcs, which causes some confusion since the default cc on RH 5.2 is gcc). How To Get GNOME ---------------- An HTML guide is available at http://ww= w.gnome.org/start/getting_rh.shtml> Reporting BUGS -------------- If you have a packaging related question about these GNOME RPMS, you can email Dr Mike at . All GNOME functionality bugs should be reported to the GNOME bugtracking system at: http://bugs.gnome.org/Reporting.html> Cheers, the RHAD Labs Team http://www.labs.redhat.com> =20 --=20 FAQ: Frequently-Asked Questions at http://www.gnome.org/gno= mefaq> To unsubscribe: mail gnome-list-request(a)gnome.org with=20 "unsubscribe" as the Subject. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1456947501229926147==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Tue Apr 13 17:59:46 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE6.1? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:59:46 +0200 Message-ID: <37138611.2B49316B@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990413183212.06c1dca0@ip005.niwi.knaw.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6587468447832492322==" --===============6587468447832492322== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Eric, Yes the Xserver of vmware works perfectly with the rage II(x) card. I don't t= hat there are major changes between the rage II versions. I'm using vmware also on a rage II card. Regards, Joop. Eric Maryniak wrote: > I have a graphics card, identified in the win98 registry (sorry) as > "RAGE IIC AGP"; unfortunately i don't have the manuals. > > Is this card the same as "ATI 3D Rage IIc" in support database: > > http://www.= suse.de/Support/sdb_e/mkraft_atirageIIc.html> > > where it says to put ChipId 0x4755 and ChipRev 0x01 in /etc/XF86Config? > And is this card different (component database), 0x4754 instead of 0x4755: > > http://cdb.suse.de/cgi-bin/cdb.cgi?lang 0E%3aVENDOR 0ATI%= 3aNAME 03DRAGE 02C > > which is named "ATI 3DRAGE-2C"? So my questions are to be precize: > > 1. Should I use the Mach64 driver for "RAGE IIC AGP" and with what > ChipId/ChipRev numbers and is it supported in SuSE 6.1? > 2. On a related note: does anybody got the VMware (http://www.vmware.com/>) > Mach64 version of their X server to work for this specific card? > > Thanx for any help, kind regards, Eric Maryniak > -- > Eric Maryniak > Home page: http://pobox.com/~e.maryniak/> > Netherlands Institute for Scientific Information Services (NIWI) > Tel/Fax: +31 20 4628650/6685079. Internet: http://www.niwi.knaw.nl/> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6587468447832492322==-- From Henry.Meyerding@PSS.Boeing.com Tue Apr 13 18:02:36 1999 From: Henry.Meyerding@PSS.Boeing.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] screen resolution aggravation Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:02:36 -0700 Message-ID: <419AC4196F97D11187C600805FF590A6B70DD0@xch-knt-17.ds.boeing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4083458348806911041==" --===============4083458348806911041== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just successfully installed SuSE 6.0 this weekend in my client computer. W= orks great except that I am having difficulty selecting the proper settings f= or the x-windows resolutions I want. I have a Matrox Millennium II video car= d and a Sony CPD-1304S (Multisync HG) 15" Monitor. With my former installat= ion of Caldera, I was running 16 bit 1600 X 1200, but I can't seem to pick an= y setting in sax that works that is more than 600 X 800. HELP!=20 The SuSE folks tell me to try other combinations. Well, I've tried many many= combinations and have had my fill of trial-and-error and would like some rea= l help. Sony tells me that this monitor is 28-57 Vertical and 55-110 Horizon= tal, but I am not sure what to do with this information. Thanks, Henry Meyerding PS My other monitor is also a Sony - a Multiscan 17SF II and the proper settings= for that monitor would also be appreciated. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4083458348806911041==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Tue Apr 13 18:09:36 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:09:36 +0200 Message-ID: <37138860.3CCB36E@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <000a01be85f0$53a01d40$30e7d8cd@rlt450> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7925207268595404695==" --===============7925207268595404695== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Rick, To use it with kernel 2.2.5 or any kernel change you have to upgrade vmware as it recompiles new modules. (Upgrade is do the install program again and say upgrade, you will also see that it builds new modules). Vmware needs these for the new kernel. Regards, Joop Boonen. Rick Thompson wrote: > I had vmnet-bridge working with the 2.2.4 kernel...but since going to 2.2.5, > I haven't had it work even once. I even had win98 using seeing the samba > server on my fileserver in the network neighborhood. Maybe I'll go back to > 2.2.4 and see if its something to do with the new kernel. > > Rick Thompson > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > > Behalf Of Michael Perry > > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 10:37 AM > > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which > > ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? > > > > > > > > On 13 Apr, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Eric Maryniak wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > >> 1. Should I use the Mach64 driver for "RAGE IIC AGP" and with what > > >> ChipId/ChipRev numbers and is it supported in SuSE 6.1? > > > > > > This hack should not be necessary for newer releases of XFree. > > XFree 3.3.3 > > > (and up) support this chipset. > > > > > >> 2. On a related note: does anybody got the VMware > > (http://www.vmware.com/>) > > >> Mach64 version of their X server > > to work for this specific card? > > > > > > Sorry, I don't know. I just tested vmware briefly :) > > > > > > Bye, > > > LenZ > > > > > > > I am using build 106 of the vmware beta on a dell inspiron laptop here > > running a win98 client session with no issues. The inspiron ships with > > a 8mb ATI RAGe II video card. Earliery builds of vmware had some > > issues with the card and my hacked mach64 server. This build seems to > > be okay. I also am using vmware's svga driver for the guest video to > > smooth things a bit. ONly issues I have with vmware now is that > > vmnet-bridge does not start reliably. > > -- > > Michael E. Perry > > mperry(a)basin.com > > -------------------- > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/S= upport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7925207268595404695==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Tue Apr 13 18:27:12 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:27:12 +0200 Message-ID: <37138C80.A708E406@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <000b01be85f2$840da860$30e7d8cd@rlt450> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8308130329924902031==" --===============8308130329924902031== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rick, That's art. For me it worked. May be you can first uninstall and than install again. That might work. I have use vmware on kernel 2.2.5. Regards, Joop. Rick Thompson wrote: > uhmmm....I did reinstall. ;-) > It still doesn't work. > > Rick Thompson > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joop Boonen [mailto:jbo= onen(a)worldonline.nl] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 11:10 AM > > To: Rick Thompson > > Cc: Suse-Linux-E(a)Suse. Com; mperry(a)basin.com > > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which > > ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? > > > > > > Dear Rick, > > > > To use it with kernel 2.2.5 or any kernel change you have to > > upgrade vmware as > > it recompiles new modules. (Upgrade is do the install program > > again and say > > upgrade, you will also see that it builds new modules). Vmware > > needs these for > > the new kernel. > > > > Regards, > > > > Joop Boonen. > > > > > > Rick Thompson wrote: > > > > > I had vmnet-bridge working with the 2.2.4 kernel...but since > > going to 2.2.5, > > > I haven't had it work even once. I even had win98 using seeing > > the samba > > > server on my fileserver in the network neighborhood. Maybe > > I'll go back to > > > 2.2.4 and see if its something to do with the new kernel. > > > > > > Rick Thompson > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > [mailto:owner-suse-li= nux-e(a)suse.com]On > > > > Behalf Of Michael Perry > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 10:37 AM > > > > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > > > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which > > > > ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13 Apr, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Eric Maryniak wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> 1. Should I use the Mach64 driver for "RAGE IIC AGP" and with what > > > > >> ChipId/ChipRev numbers and is it supported in SuSE 6.1? > > > > > > > > > > This hack should not be necessary for newer releases of XFree. > > > > XFree 3.3.3 > > > > > (and up) support this chipset. > > > > > > > > > >> 2. On a related note: does anybody got the VMware > > > > (http://www.vmware.com/>) > > > > >> Mach64 version of their X server > > > > to work for this specific card? > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I don't know. I just tested vmware briefly :) > > > > > > > > > > Bye, > > > > > LenZ > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using build 106 of the vmware beta on a dell inspiron laptop here > > > > running a win98 client session with no issues. The inspiron > > ships with > > > > a 8mb ATI RAGe II video card. Earliery builds of vmware had some > > > > issues with the card and my hacked mach64 server. This build seems to > > > > be okay. I also am using vmware's svga driver for the guest video to > > > > smooth things a bit. ONly issues I have with vmware now is that > > > > vmnet-bridge does not start reliably. > > > > -- > > > > Michael E. Perry > > > > mperry(a)basin.com > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com wi= th > > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> a= nd the > > > > archive at > > http://ww= w.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com= /Support/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8308130329924902031==-- From j.archbold@homemail.com Tue Apr 13 19:41:32 1999 From: j.archbold@homemail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] USB Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:41:32 +0100 Message-ID: <002201be85e5$a2e0d080$f606883e@voyager> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1677795284113779734==" --===============1677795284113779734== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I know i have sent a e-mail similar to this list but i don't know if it got here because for some reason i was taken off the list and only subscibed again yesterday... So here i go again..... Does linux support USB ports..... if not will it in the future? Thanx again and sorry for having to repost? John Archbold - Will be running SuSE 6.0 when i get my laptop back >&^> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1677795284113779734==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 13 20:01:33 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] new setup Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:01:33 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001501be84e4$31996920$9b7760cb@brumsey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9026701001305530596==" --===============9026701001305530596== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, B.Rumsey wrote: > Help > I have S.U.S.E 6.0. I have just installed a new hard drive and > motherboard and can not get get windows to work. What does this have to do with S.u.S.E.? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9026701001305530596==-- From gcambria@ar.ing.unisi.it Tue Apr 13 20:05:02 1999 From: gcambria@ar.ing.unisi.it To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: R: [SuSE Linux] Q: Mounting NTFS volumes under Linux? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:05:02 +0200 Message-ID: <001f01be85e9$1ce4e670$0205a8c0@lupoalberto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6303821021744354430==" --===============6303821021744354430== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John Of course you can! I did it since kernel 2.2.1.( Now I've the excellent 2.2.5) You have to recompile the kernel, eventually see an appropriate HOWTO about, enabling the option 'NTFS Support' on the 'filesystems' tab choosing for module or to incorporate code into kernel (I choosed NOT module) After reboot mount the NTFS volume typing: # mount -tntfs /dev/hd* /** where: * is the partition where NTFS is, for example hda3 or hdc4 ** is the mount point where you want see NTFS volume; mine is merely /NT. Note: this mounts NTFS read-only. The read/write option is highly experimental and may destroy your NTFS. hope this help you! NanniX -----Messaggio originale----- Da: John Perser A: SuSE List Data: luned=C3=AC 12 aprile 1999 23.11 Oggetto: [SuSE Linux] Q: Mounting NTFS volumes under Linux? >Is there anyway to mount NTFS volumes under Linux? > >-- >John Perser Audio Evangelist & Products Guy >Multigen-Paradigm Inc. 972-960-2301 >--- > > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6303821021744354430==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 13 20:06:08 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Navy using MSFltSim to train pilots Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:06:08 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0981162476843277279==" --===============0981162476843277279== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Michael Hasenstein wrote: >=20 > > Also, I've never seen it crash. The flightsim itself seems to have > > been programmed well. >=20 > No wonder. MS didn't write it themselves, they just bought the complete > company who initially made it (Sublogic, IIRC) I wouldn't really know -- the only one I've used is version 2 or so, which I have on a diskette in FS.ARC... ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0981162476843277279==-- From cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl Tue Apr 13 20:18:27 1999 From: cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) {QMail} Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:18:27 +0200 Message-ID: <19990413221827.A14663@griend.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6750180750144689540==" --===============6750180750144689540== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 13, 1999 at 01:05:37PM +0200, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > Have a look at Postfix. I am sure, it can be compared with qmail in terms > of security and speed. See www.postfix.org for more details. I did and I must say it looks very promising. Maybe I won't miss Qmail after all. Only once did I look at the config-files of Sendmail. I hated it from that moment on. Tnx, Cees. --=20 wa' Qu'vaD wa' DevwI' tu'lu'. For one mission, there is one leader. Mark Okrand, "Star Trek: The Klingon Way - A Warrier's Guide" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6750180750144689540==-- From mha@suse.de Tue Apr 13 20:19:22 1999 From: mha@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] USB Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:19:22 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002201be85e5$a2e0d080$f606883e@voyager> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3020053939124496794==" --===============3020053939124496794== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, John Archbold wrote: > Does linux support USB ports..... if not will it in the future? two links: http://www.nv.org/linux/USB/news.html> and http://www.linuxhq.com/wonderful22.html> Quote: "Alas, there is some bad news here. Despite ongoing efforts by several parties to finish USB support, no support was included in time for a Linux 2.2 release. Several prominent developers have looked at USB support and it is likely that there will be some support before we get too far into Linux 2.2.x. (Alternatively, USB support could be provided through an external source in the same way that PCMCIA support is now.)" --=20 Michael Hasenstein http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/> Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3020053939124496794==-- From cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl Tue Apr 13 20:27:23 1999 From: cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] USB Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:27:23 +0200 Message-ID: <19990413222723.B14663@griend.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <002201be85e5$a2e0d080$f606883e@voyager> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5346849541353413017==" --===============5346849541353413017== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 13, 1999 at 08:41:32PM +0100, John Archbold wrote: > Does linux support USB ports..... if not will it in the future? Linux does support USB after a kernel patch. It's all still beta. I believe only mice and keyboards are supported. Last I heard, Linus himself is taking interest in USB. That could speed things up a little [grin]. For more USB information, see the Linux USB project: <http://peloncho.fis.ucm.es/~inaki/USB.ht= ml>> Cees. --=20 bISovbejbe'DI' tImer. When in doubt, surprise them. Mark Okrand, "Star Trek: The Klingon Way - A Warrier's Guide" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5346849541353413017==-- From ideasco@csi.com Tue Apr 13 20:39:31 1999 From: ideasco@csi.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Chameleon Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:39:31 -0400 Message-ID: <000401be8685$b2705070$7b70c0d8@ob800ct> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1792180466444479927==" --===============1792180466444479927== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There's a program that makes the "X" cursor into the SuSE chameleon icon. If I've loaded it from the CD-ROM, where's it located and what's the command to make it happen? Thanks! Stanley C. Rogacki, P.E. IDEAS Company (973) 403-9797 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1792180466444479927==-- From jerdfelt@suse.com Tue Apr 13 20:40:24 1999 From: jerdfelt@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] USB Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:40:24 -0700 Message-ID: <19990413134024.A14693@suse.com> In-Reply-To: <002201be85e5$a2e0d080$f606883e@voyager> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4254663378937043316==" --===============4254663378937043316== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 13, 1999, John Archbold wrote: >=20 > I know i have sent a e-mail similar to this list but i don't know if it > got here because for some reason i was taken off the list and only subscibed > again yesterday... So here i go again..... >=20 > Does linux support USB ports..... if not will it in the future? Work is currently in progress to support USB devices. Right now some of the common devices are supported, but there are still a number of devices which aren't. It's also a little unstable sometimes crashing the system. If you are curious, here's the web page with information about the development which is updated fairly often to reflect the current state: http://peloncho.fis.ucm.es/~inaky/uus= bd-www/> JE -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4254663378937043316==-- From rthompson@motleypc.com Tue Apr 13 20:58:05 1999 From: rthompson@motleypc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:58:05 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01be85f0$53a01d40$30e7d8cd@rlt450> In-Reply-To: <199904131737.KAA00617@speedy.linuxcare.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5689227129219353995==" --===============5689227129219353995== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had vmnet-bridge working with the 2.2.4 kernel...but since going to 2.2.5, I haven't had it work even once. I even had win98 using seeing the samba server on my fileserver in the network neighborhood. Maybe I'll go back to 2.2.4 and see if its something to do with the new kernel. Rick Thompson > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of Michael Perry > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 10:37 AM > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which > ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? > > > > On 13 Apr, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Eric Maryniak wrote: > > > > >> > >> 1. Should I use the Mach64 driver for "RAGE IIC AGP" and with what > >> ChipId/ChipRev numbers and is it supported in SuSE 6.1? > > > > This hack should not be necessary for newer releases of XFree. > XFree 3.3.3 > > (and up) support this chipset. > > > >> 2. On a related note: does anybody got the VMware > (h= ttp://www.vmware.com/>) > >> Mach64 version of their X server > to work for this specific card? > > > > Sorry, I don't know. I just tested vmware briefly :) > > > > Bye, > > LenZ > > > > I am using build 106 of the vmware beta on a dell inspiron laptop here > running a win98 client session with no issues. The inspiron ships with > a 8mb ATI RAGe II video card. Earliery builds of vmware had some > issues with the card and my hacked mach64 server. This build seems to > be okay. I also am using vmware's svga driver for the guest video to > smooth things a bit. ONly issues I have with vmware now is that > vmnet-bridge does not start reliably. > -- > Michael E. Perry > mperry(a)basin.com > -------------------- > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5689227129219353995==-- From rthompson@motleypc.com Tue Apr 13 21:13:45 1999 From: rthompson@motleypc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:13:45 -0700 Message-ID: <000b01be85f2$840da860$30e7d8cd@rlt450> In-Reply-To: <37138860.3CCB36E@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1483081692647204285==" --===============1483081692647204285== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable uhmmm....I did reinstall. ;-) It still doesn't work. Rick Thompson > -----Original Message----- > From: Joop Boonen [mailto:jboon= en(a)worldonline.nl] > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 11:10 AM > To: Rick Thompson > Cc: Suse-Linux-E(a)Suse. Com; mperry(a)basin.com > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which > ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? > > > Dear Rick, > > To use it with kernel 2.2.5 or any kernel change you have to > upgrade vmware as > it recompiles new modules. (Upgrade is do the install program > again and say > upgrade, you will also see that it builds new modules). Vmware > needs these for > the new kernel. > > Regards, > > Joop Boonen. > > > Rick Thompson wrote: > > > I had vmnet-bridge working with the 2.2.4 kernel...but since > going to 2.2.5, > > I haven't had it work even once. I even had win98 using seeing > the samba > > server on my fileserver in the network neighborhood. Maybe > I'll go back to > > 2.2.4 and see if its something to do with the new kernel. > > > > Rick Thompson > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > [mailto:owner-suse-linu= x-e(a)suse.com]On > > > Behalf Of Michael Perry > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 10:37 AM > > > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which > > > ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13 Apr, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Eric Maryniak wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> 1. Should I use the Mach64 driver for "RAGE IIC AGP" and with what > > > >> ChipId/ChipRev numbers and is it supported in SuSE 6.1? > > > > > > > > This hack should not be necessary for newer releases of XFree. > > > XFree 3.3.3 > > > > (and up) support this chipset. > > > > > > > >> 2. On a related note: does anybody got the VMware > > > (http://www.vmware.com/>) > > > >> Mach64 version of their X server > > > to work for this specific card? > > > > > > > > Sorry, I don't know. I just tested vmware briefly :) > > > > > > > > Bye, > > > > LenZ > > > > > > > > > > I am using build 106 of the vmware beta on a dell inspiron laptop here > > > running a win98 client session with no issues. The inspiron > ships with > > > a 8mb ATI RAGe II video card. Earliery builds of vmware had some > > > issues with the card and my hacked mach64 server. This build seems to > > > be okay. I also am using vmware's svga driver for the guest video to > > > smooth things a bit. ONly issues I have with vmware now is that > > > vmnet-bridge does not start reliably. > > > -- > > > Michael E. Perry > > > mperry(a)basin.com > > > -------------------- > > > > > > -- > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > > > archive at > http://www.= suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > > > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/S= upport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1483081692647204285==-- From jbodnar@dev.tivoli.com Tue Apr 13 21:23:19 1999 From: jbodnar@dev.tivoli.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] sql for linux and can windows apps access the l Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:23:19 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990413153950.0101e254@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7035387063254837799==" --===============7035387063254837799== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13-Apr-99 Samy Elashmawy wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi folks ,=20 >=20 > I would like to set up an sql server on linux for the widows apps to acess . >=20 > 1/ can this be done ? Yes =20 > 2/ I am looking at 2 to 3 users with a max of 5 users. two or three apps. No problem. =20 > 3/ I want to keep it simple and basic nothing fancy. The way it should be done. =20 > 4/ I will nees jdbc support as I am looking to move to java No problem. =20 > 5/ how hard / easw is it to set up the server ? Very easy. =20 > 6/ how hard / easy ios it to get the windows apps to see the server ? Easy. > Do you just need to set up the driver . or give the ipaddress ??? Set up the ODBC driver. =20 > any pitfalls in what I want to do ?? Not really. =20 > Thanks Your welcome. Oh, I guess you probably want a database recommendation. http://w= ww.mysql.com> --- Jason Bodnar + jbodnar(a)tivoli.com + Tivoli Systems "Well, I believe in the soul, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days." -- Crash Davis, "Bull Durham" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7035387063254837799==-- From jerdfelt@suse.com Tue Apr 13 21:23:54 1999 From: jerdfelt@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sql for linux and can windows apps access the linux sql server ?? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:23:54 -0700 Message-ID: <19990413142354.B14693@suse.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990413153950.0101e254@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9179773684172059437==" --===============9179773684172059437== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 13, 1999, Samy Elashmawy wrote: >=20 > I would like to set up an sql server on linux for the widows apps to acess . >=20 > 1/ can this be done ? Absolutely. > 2/ I am looking at 2 to 3 users with a max of 5 users. two or three apps. There a number of Databases available. Adabas, MySQL, mSQL, PostreSQL are 4 that come off the top of my head. Also, Oracle, Informix and all of the other major Database vendors have Linux versions as well. For your purposes, one of the first 4 should be good. > 3/ I want to keep it simple and basic nothing fancy. MySQL, mSQL and PostreSQL are all free and basic enough. They are mostly command line (there are GUI apps as well) and provide good performance. > 4/ I will nees jdbc support as I am looking to move to java I dunno about JDBC but I think all of the above have JDBC and ODBC support. > 5/ how hard / easw is it to set up the server ? I'm most familiar with MySQL. It was very easy to install (install the package, create the database and go). > 6/ how hard / easy ios it to get the windows apps to see the server ? > Do you just need to set up the driver . or give the ipaddress ??? The driver will most likely need a hostname or IP address. Maybe a database name (I'm not very familiar with JDBC or ODBC) > any pitfalls in what I want to do ?? Well, you don't want to do any pitfalls if you can avoid it :) There is a wealth of documentation out there for all of them. Here's some of the URL's: MySQL: = http://www.mysql.com> mSQL: http://www.hughes.com.au> PostgreSQL: http://www.postgresql.org> are the ones off the top of my head JE -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9179773684172059437==-- From maccer98_@yahoo.com Tue Apr 13 21:33:43 1999 From: maccer98_@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] IP chain rule(s) syntax question/problem Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:33:43 -0700 Message-ID: <19990413213343.18239.rocketmail@web117.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2852291899743996564==" --===============2852291899743996564== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii I have defined in a script the NEWS_SERVER=3D"" and=20 ipchains seems to work for www.irc,ssh etc from the chain rules I composed. Seems I cannot get through to ISPs usenet server although the address is correct. Looking at the syntax below it seems fine. Does anyone see a problem with this chain rule's syntax?=20 =20 # ---------------------- =20 ipchains -A input -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p tcp !-y \ -s $NEWS_SERVER 119 \ =20 -d $IPADDR $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT ipchains -A output -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p tcp \ -s $IPADDR $UNPRIVPORTS \ =20 -d $NEWS_SERVER 119 -j ACCEPT _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2852291899743996564==-- From martin.drake@egs.lu Tue Apr 13 21:41:42 1999 From: martin.drake@egs.lu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SUSE 6.0/HP550 printing problem Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:41:42 +0200 Message-ID: <3713BA16.4464C249@egs.lu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4838920872066689390==" --===============4838920872066689390== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I'm a bit embarrassed to ask for help on this issue 'cause it's something I've already sorted out once, but can't remember anymore how I did it. When I try to print to my HP550, the printer begins its initialisation, whirrs and groans 'til it arrives at the point of loading the paper, then stops. The jobs stay stuck in the print queue and the printer cycles into this initialisation routine once every 30s or so. I had the same problem when I first installed SUSE 6.0 with kernel 2.0.36, but subsequently cured the problem somehow. I tweaked something and voil=C3=A0, bingo, it worked. Wish I could remember what... Anyway, being at a bit of a loose end last weekend I downloaded and installed the 2.2.5 kernel from the SUSE FTP server. Following which, everything seemed to be OK until I wanted to print something this evening, when the printer problem reappeared. Some more pertinent info: - the driver I am using is cdj550 - printer is on LPT1 in Windows so I am configuring it for /dev/lp1 in YAST - I can "cat" a file to the printer as /dev/lp1 - I've tried 300x300 and 360x360 resolutions so far without success - "lpq" tells me "waiting for printer to become ready (offline?)" - system is a Dell PII 350, 64MB RAM, all EIDE - I don't seem to be able to correct the problem when I boot back into 2.0.36 either. Hoping someone can shed some light on this for me, before I have to take any more flak from the wife (unfortunately she's a die-hard Windows fan). Thanks. --=20 Martin DRAKE Tel. +352 33.77.70 Geophysicist Fax +352 33.95.70 --------------------------------------------- European Geophysical Services sa 50 rue des Pr=C3=A9s, L-7333 Steinsel, LUXEMBOURG http://www.egs= .lu> --------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4838920872066689390==-- From rthompson@motleypc.com Tue Apr 13 21:58:19 1999 From: rthompson@motleypc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:58:19 -0700 Message-ID: <000c01be85f8$bdc0b7e0$30e7d8cd@rlt450> In-Reply-To: <37138C80.A708E406@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2006851879146432726==" --===============2006851879146432726== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now that I see what vmware can do for me, I think I >will< start over....with a production size install (I only sized the virtual drive for a minimal windoze install). I want to start playing with some more robust windows applications and see if I come across any stumbling blocks. If they fix the disk i/o speed so that it will be reasonably close to real life speed (memory paging speed is abysmal), I would see no reason whatsover that I couldn't use vmware as my permanent windows solution. On the other hand...paging speed may be fixable by moving to 256MB from my current 128MB physical memory configuration. Rick Thompson > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of Joop Boonen > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 11:27 AM > To: Rick Thompson > Cc: Suse-Linux-E(a)Suse. Com; mperry(a)basin.com > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which > ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? > > > > Hi Rick, > > That's art. For me it worked. May be you can first uninstall and > than install > again. > > That might work. I have use vmware on kernel 2.2.5. > > Regards, > > Joop. > > Rick Thompson wrote: > > > uhmmm....I did reinstall. ;-) > > It still doesn't work. > > > > Rick Thompson > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Joop Boonen [mailto:j= boonen(a)worldonline.nl] > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 11:10 AM > > > To: Rick Thompson > > > Cc: Suse-Linux-E(a)Suse. Com; mperry(a)basin.com > > > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which > > > ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? > > > > > > > > > Dear Rick, > > > > > > To use it with kernel 2.2.5 or any kernel change you have to > > > upgrade vmware as > > > it recompiles new modules. (Upgrade is do the install program > > > again and say > > > upgrade, you will also see that it builds new modules). Vmware > > > needs these for > > > the new kernel. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Joop Boonen. > > > > > > > > > Rick Thompson wrote: > > > > > > > I had vmnet-bridge working with the 2.2.4 kernel...but since > > > going to 2.2.5, > > > > I haven't had it work even once. I even had win98 using seeing > > > the samba > > > > server on my fileserver in the network neighborhood. Maybe > > > I'll go back to > > > > 2.2.4 and see if its something to do with the new kernel. > > > > > > > > Rick Thompson > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > > [mailto:owner-suse-= linux-e(a)suse.com]On > > > > > Behalf Of Michael Perry > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 10:37 AM > > > > > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] RAGE IIC AGP vmware support and which > > > > > ChipId/ChipRev in SuSE 6.1? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13 Apr, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Eric Maryniak wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> 1. Should I use the Mach64 driver for "RAGE IIC AGP" > and with what > > > > > >> ChipId/ChipRev numbers and is it supported in SuSE 6.1? > > > > > > > > > > > > This hack should not be necessary for newer releases of XFree. > > > > > XFree 3.3.3 > > > > > > (and up) support this chipset. > > > > > > > > > > > >> 2. On a related note: does anybody got the VMware > > > > > (http://www.vmware.com/>) > > > > > >> Mach64 version of their X server > > > > > to work for this specific card? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I don't know. I just tested vmware briefly :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Bye, > > > > > > LenZ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using build 106 of the vmware beta on a dell > inspiron laptop here > > > > > running a win98 client session with no issues. The inspiron > > > ships with > > > > > a 8mb ATI RAGe II video card. Earliery builds of vmware had some > > > > > issues with the card and my hacked mach64 server. This > build seems to > > > > > be okay. I also am using vmware's svga driver for the > guest video to > > > > > smooth things a bit. ONly issues I have with vmware now is that > > > > > vmnet-bridge does not start reliably. > > > > > -- > > > > > Michael E. Perry > > > > > mperry(a)basin.com > > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > To get out of this list, please send email to > majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > > > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/>= and the > > > > > archive at > > > http://= www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To get out of this list, please send email to > majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > > > > archive at > http://www.= suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/S= upport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2006851879146432726==-- From michael@merrittpop.com Tue Apr 13 22:23:25 1999 From: michael@merrittpop.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:23:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3713C3DD.DC7848CD@merrittpop.com> In-Reply-To: <199904131337.GAA16300@www1.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4752272700966710526==" --===============4752272700966710526== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Karsten Johansson wrote: >=20 > Ewan Dunbar wrote: > > > > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote: > > > > > > > > This is DEAD wrong in a lot of areas...but, you should read it. > > Where? I haven't found any problems with it. WAY better than that WSJ > > article. >=20 > Yes, I fail to see where it is dead wrong... especially in a "lot" of > areas. Please explain. Well, take the paragraph: "Missing from Linux are high-availability features that would let one Linux server step in and take over if another failed; full-fledged support for computers with multiple processors; and a "journaling" file system that is necessary to quickly reboot a crashed machine without having to laboriously reconstruct the computer's system files, the study said." Is Beowulf merely a figment of my imagination? As well as many other clustering solutions. Try doing half of that with NT. Also, my server does quite well using its dual processors -- I'm not sure how much more support is needed to be "full-fledged?" -- Michael Merritt michael(a)merrittpop.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/> michaelmerritt(a)email.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/jmm/> ICQ: 21021306 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4752272700966710526==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Tue Apr 13 22:48:04 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Navy using MSFltSim to train pilots Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:48:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3713C9A4.3A41484D@navix.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1149999576806801641==" --===============1149999576806801641== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Hasenstein wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > > That obviously includes crash traing.... >=20 > That statement is not based on facts and is not helpful. Gee, Michael, I've been a private pilot since I soloed on 8/5/1980. Also, I've flown the Flight Safety simulator (the big one) for the Citation II. I've even used PC flight simulators to log IFR hours. I own and have used M$'s Flight Simulator, before I left windows. (I even enjoyed flying and landing a Boeing 737 sim just for kicks, but my favorite flight simulator was the Falon F16). Now I run ACM 5.0 on Linux. Ya think I might know what I'm talking about? > Fact is, MS flightsim is damn good. See my signature below, I know what > I'm talking about. It doesn't have FAA approval merely because you need to > certify the flight controls with the software, and FAA certified > simulators (i.e. you can log some of the hours in your flight log as > 'simulated instrument' flight time) are for IFR (instrument flight rules) > training only, while MS FS tries to be useful for VFR flight (visual > flight rules) as well. Otherwise they don't need to change a lot if they'd > want such certification. It helped me quite a bit in my own training. >=20 > Also, I've never seen it crash. The flightsim itself seems to have been > programmed well. It will. You haven't seen the source so you cannot say with any professinal certainty what the quality of the code is, or what bugs are waiting to bite. You only indicate your lack of experience with Windows in general when you say you haven't seen it (Windows or the flightsim) crash. It doesn't matter how good the software is, it can be no more reliable than the OS that supports it. BTW, since you are a recent graduate of flight training school, remember: there are old pilots, bold pilots but no old, bold pilots.=20 Learn to know when to fly the chicken hawk. --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1149999576806801641==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Tue Apr 13 23:00:59 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Postgresql & borland products Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:00:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3713CCAB.C129E221@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <001401be8590$fdd2fb80$1701a8c0@andy.mcr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1781607843538115639==" --===============1781607843538115639== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable andy wrote: >=20 > I am trying to use PostgreSql with borland Paradox and Delphi. I seem to be > able to construct a form or table but when I add records in, say, a > tableframe, it just displays the last record before I added the new one. >=20 > For example, >=20 > Before adding:- >=20 > Field 1 Field 2 >=20 > 1 10 > 2 20 >=20 > After adding a new record with values of 3 and 30 into fields it still > displays the same values as above. However, if I then close the table or > tableframe and re-open the new values are displayed with the old ones as > expected, thus, >=20 > 1 10 > 2 20 > 3 30 >=20 > What is going on? >=20 > Any help greatly appreciated. >=20 > Regards >=20 > Andy Bennett >=20 You are not supplying enough information. I assume you are connecting via ODBC, since Paradox uses PAL and Delphi uses Pascal. But, which ODBC driver are you using? Have you set up your DSN correctly? Supply some sample code! --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1781607843538115639==-- From michael@merrittpop.com Tue Apr 13 23:11:25 1999 From: michael@merrittpop.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Navy using MSFltSim to train pilots Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3713CF1D.C55359C0@merrittpop.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5216955458870616569==" --===============5216955458870616569== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found Jerry's statement humourous, though I do agree with MH: Flight Sim (I still have ver. 5.1) is a very good program. I've never upgrade to FS'98, since it is Windows-based, and I've never had good luck with Windows-based programs. I think that the DOS-based older versions are much better. I've enjoyed many hours of flying. Perhaps the post was off-topic, but I intended it as more "general-computing" related rather than MS-bashing. Unrelated, doesn't the ARMY or NAVY one use a customized DOOM for combat training? Michael Hasenstein wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > > That obviously includes crash traing.... >=20 > That statement is not based on facts and is not helpful. >=20 > Fact is, MS flightsim is damn good. See my signature below, I know what > I'm talking about. It doesn't have FAA approval merely because you need to > certify the flight controls with the software, and FAA certified > simulators (i.e. you can log some of the hours in your flight log as > 'simulated instrument' flight time) are for IFR (instrument flight rules) > training only, while MS FS tries to be useful for VFR flight (visual > flight rules) as well. Otherwise they don't need to change a lot if they'd > want such certification. It helped me quite a bit in my own training. >=20 > Also, I've never seen it crash. The flightsim itself seems to have been > programmed well. >=20 > -- > Michael Hasenstein > http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/> > Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998 >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- Michael Merritt michael(a)merrittpop.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/> michaelmerritt(a)email.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/jmm/> ICQ: 21021306 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5216955458870616569==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Tue Apr 13 23:20:30 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Navy using MSFltSim to train pilots Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:20:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3713D13E.B0E47DA2@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3713317D.3380@inter.NL.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1680009934356054722==" --===============1680009934356054722== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marco van Oostende wrote: >=20 > Hmm, becomes a bit off-topic here... sorry in advance. > I use the program since the early 80's, version FS2 back then, using an > Apple II (long, long ago). Even though it is sold by Microsoft, the > flight engine itself is originally written and maintained by SubLogic > until version 5. I have to admit that I feel recent versions to fly less > natural. Stuff in the earlier versions that needs accurate settings did > not show as good as they do now, but were much easier to use as it does > now. But then, as long as it looks good, it sells better. And yes, > recent versions do crash on my system. Most of the time after a 'short' > flight between let's say Oslo and Mallorca, 10 minutes before landing > :-( The program itself is very good for getting basic knowledge on > flying though. >=20 > Regs, Marco Marco, Just to give you and the other folks an ideal of how programming was done "back then": I am holding a phamphlet marked "Animation Package, Microcomputer 3D Graphics, Load&Go Manual" for the AppleII (Assembly Language - 16K minimum), from SubLogic, Box V, Savoy, IL, 61874. The "Technical Manual" was even more detailed. It describes the 3-D engine that subLogic used to power the "Saturn Navigator" and later the FS2 flight simulator programs. These two documents came with the program. The assembler portion was for the 6502 cpu, of course. I purchased my Apple computer in the fall of 1978 (the first sold in the state of Nebraska) and later upgraded it to a II+ with floating point Apple Basic+. I used that subLogic engine and the 3-D positional data from the nearest 500 stars, to create a local universe simulation in which I could fly around in. I was teaching at the time and it stunned the kids who were watching Star Trek reruns to see the stars of space "move" the way they appeared to move from the bridge of the Enterprise. When they flew to the belt of Orian they realized that the star patterns in the sky were familiar only from a certain point of view, as one of the belt stars sailed past the "window", leaving only two. The point I want to make is this: I could write that software (and share it freely, as I did) because subLogic included the source code with the documentation. How times have changed. Maybe, they will change back.=20 --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1680009934356054722==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Tue Apr 13 23:22:34 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Can't use de kppp Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:22:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3713D1BA.E9E1A18B@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <001a01be85a8$22e22b00$0cc8c8c8@mariano> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0355588731596278027==" --===============0355588731596278027== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Mariano Striani wrote: >=20 > Hi: >=20 > I wish to know if the kppp is a package and where can I find > it, because when I run kde y try to use kppp and it says: command not > found or somthing >=20 > thanks > Mariano Striani You must not have "/kde/bin" (mine is opt/kde/bin) in your path variable. Even so, you should be able to follow the menu structure: K --> Internet --> Kppp --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0355588731596278027==-- From rthompson@motleypc.com Wed Apr 14 00:12:59 1999 From: rthompson@motleypc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Using Lilo to boot NT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:12:59 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be860b$8df1d130$30e7d8cd@rlt450> In-Reply-To: <199904131524.PAA20954@maxwell.syr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1704403928678714149==" --===============1704403928678714149== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When you installed NT it thought it was installing on disk 0 (NTs disk naming convention starts with 0, the second is 1, etc). When you have your linux drive "plugged up"...the NT disk is looking on your linux drive for the NTLDR. You'll have to edit the boot.ini in the C:\ to indicate disk 1 instead of disk 0. This is all from memory...YMMV Rick Thompson > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of James P. Bennett > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 8:24 AM > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: [SuSE Linux] Using Lilo to boot NT > > > > I am unable to make lilo boot NT. > > Linux' / resides on sda1. Lilo wrote the MBR on sda, using > lilo.conf below. > > NT is installed on sdb (achieved by physically unplugging the power to > sda in order to fool > it into thinking that sdb was the only disk; no way else could I get > my OEM NT Workstation cdrom to install on the 2nd disk); so c: and d: are > partitions sdb1 and sdb2, resp. If I continue with the power off to > sda, then NT boots fine, using its "own" MBR on sdb. > > When I have both disks powered up and try to use Lilo to boot NT I get > a message to the effect that ntldr (located in c:\ ) isn't found. I > know that I can't specify > ntldr's location using "image =3D" because it pertains only to linux. > Is there another way to do this? > > I don't know what the "table =3D" accomplishes. Should a different > command be used? > > # Start LILO global Section > boot=3D/dev/hda > > ... > > # Begin First linux boot option > image =3D /vmlinuz > root =3D /dev/sda1 > label =3D linux > # End first linux boot option > > # Begin Second (old) linux boot option > ... > # End 2nd linux boot option > > # Begin NT boot option > other =3D /dev/sdb1 > label =3D NT > table =3D /dev/sdb > # End NT boot option > __________________________________________________ > jim bennett > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1704403928678714149==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Wed Apr 14 00:27:45 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] xdm Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:27:45 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990413222723.B14663@griend.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5423752823933639337==" --===============5423752823933639337== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Say, when I'm running xdm, do I get the messages which normally would have been on the tty on which I'd typed startx? ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5423752823933639337==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Wed Apr 14 00:32:35 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help - Internet connection. Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:32:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3713E223.79F3009B@navix.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4399136129040944222==" --===============4399136129040944222== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "James (Jim) Hatridge" wrote: >=20 > HI Jerry et al; >=20 > On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > > In only one line: > > KDE has a program, Kppp, that is almost identical in operation to > > Windows "dial" program. > > If you need help for the settings let us know... >=20 > YES!! I need too help with Kppp. When I try to connect I get "Serial line > is looped back." Do you have any ideas? Or at least point me toward what > could be wrong. First, if you did a straight install of SuSE then things would have been setup correctly. So, during or after the install you have used YaST to change some configuration, or have recompiled the kernel. Let's reconfigure. There are two network address that are reserved: 0.0.0.0 and 127.0.0.0 The first is called the 'default route' and the second is called the 'loopback address'. Network 127.0.0.0 is reserved by IP traffic local to your host, so address 127.0.0.1 will be assigned to a special interface on your host, the so-called 'loopback interface', which acts like a closed circuit. Any IP packet handed to it from TCP or UDP will be returned to them (.0 and .1) as if it had just arrived from some network. This allows you to develop and test networking software without ever using a "real" network. Another useful application is when you want to use networking software on a standalone host. You can display your serial device configurations with: /sbin/setserial -bg /dev/cua*=20 /sbin/setserial -bg /dev/ttyS* the second being more current... A 'wild' interrupt detection command would be: /sbin/setserial -W /dev/ttyS* Your hostname, unless you changed it, is 'localhost'. The following command will give you the status of all of all flags for a give serial device: stty -a < /dev/ttyS1 Read the man pages for setserial to see how to read serial device configurations and to force configure them. You have mistakenly attached your serial port device to the loopback address during installation. Also, since you are probably not using DNS or NIS for address resolution, you have to put all hostnames and addresses in the /etc/hosts file. My hosts file looks like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.0.2 JLKreps.AtHome JLKreps (Note: some distros reverse the entry order: localhost 127.0.0.1, etc) To make all applications use /etc/hosts exclusively when looking up the IP address of a host, you have to edit /etc/hosts.conf and insert the line 'order hosts bind',and another which says 'multi on' and comment out with the '#" character any other lines starting with 'order'. Then you can force the loopback to 127.0.0.1 with ifconfig lo localhost (or 127.0.0.1) To see if things setup ok use: ifconfig lo It should show a netmask of 255.0.0.0 . Now you can start playing with it. What is still missing is an entry in the routing table that tellws IP that it may use this interface as a route to destination 127.0.0.1. This is accomplished by typing:=20 route add 127.0.0.1 You can use localhost instead of 127.0.0.1. Use ping to check that everything is fine. ping localhost It should begin sending back messages and giving travel times in milliseconds (ms). PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_deq=3D0 ttl=3D32 time=3D1 ms etc.... Use control-C to break out of ping. If you don't get this message something is messed up. Check that the ifconfig and route binaries you use are compatible with the kernel release you run, and, above all, that the kernel has been compiled with networking enabled. You can tell this from the presence of the /proc/net directory. If you get a message saying "network unreachable" you probably have got the route command wrong. Make sure you use the same address as you gave to ifconfig. NOTE note NOTE note NOTE note NOTE note NOTE note NOTE Usually, all these settings are done each time you boot because they are in rc.config. rc.config is set by using Yast --> 'System administration' -->'Nework configuration' and following instructions on page 115 of the SuSE manual. The instructions to install PPP begin on page 126. Using YaST is a lot easier than doing the manual things I described earlier. ;-)=20 Don't activate 'diald' or 'SLIP', since you are going to be using pppd.=20 Just make sure pppd is in /usr/sbin or install it if it is not. If diald is installed return YaST and disable it. Once you have configured your hostname and loopback correctly, and have installed pppd and deactivated diald, then run Kppp and configure your modem and ISP name and quad address. --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4399136129040944222==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Wed Apr 14 00:42:04 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KCharset: Wrong Charset! Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:42:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3713E45C.885BF9AB@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <001f01be85ea$df215e20$511fc19d@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4809329771734529263==" --===============4809329771734529263== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Karl Stas wrote: >=20 > Does anybody know why this message appears on the console whenever you open > a document in KDE? Or am I the only one who is experiencing this annoying > (but seemingly harmless) bug? >=20 > Karl Stas >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> I see it all the time. Hasn't bothered me in any way. It is annoying, however, because it indicates an initial setting is wrong somewhere.=20 I've looked for it but couldn't find anything I could point to as the culprit. --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4809329771734529263==-- From mperry@basin.com Wed Apr 14 00:46:34 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] vmware bridged networking on suse 6.0 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:46:34 -0700 Message-ID: <199904140046.RAA07867@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6272986209399240937==" --===============6272986209399240937== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I kinda lost track of the thread on vmware and suse. Is someone using vmware beta at the build 1.06 level with bridged networking loading reliably? I am using kernel 2.2.4 and basically have to reinstall each time I want to use vmware. This is not a major deal but I would like to be able to let vmware do the module loading. Thanks. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6272986209399240937==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Wed Apr 14 01:16:56 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sql for linux and can windows apps access the l Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:16:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3713EC88.491572ED@navix.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7402016582929639405==" --===============7402016582929639405== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jason Bodnar wrote: >=20 > On 13-Apr-99 Samy Elashmawy wrote: > > > > > > Hi folks , > > > > I would like to set up an sql server on linux for the widows apps to aces= s . > > > > 1/ can this be done ? >=20 > Yes >=20 > > 2/ I am looking at 2 to 3 users with a max of 5 users. two or three apps. >=20 > No problem. >=20 > > 3/ I want to keep it simple and basic nothing fancy. >=20 > The way it should be done. >=20 > > 4/ I will nees jdbc support as I am looking to move to java >=20 > No problem. >=20 > > 5/ how hard / easw is it to set up the server ? >=20 > Very easy. >=20 > > 6/ how hard / easy ios it to get the windows apps to see the server ? >=20 > Easy. >=20 > > Do you just need to set up the driver . or give the ipaddress ??? >=20 > Set up the ODBC driver. >=20 > > any pitfalls in what I want to do ?? >=20 > Not really. >=20 > > Thanks >=20 > Your welcome. >=20 > Oh, I guess you probably want a database recommendation. >=20 > http:/= /www.mysql.com> >=20 I would suggest PostgreSQL because of what mysql lacks. MySQL is only about 10 0.000000aster than PostgreSQL but the latter is more compliant to ANSI SQL92 standards. PostgreSQL offers classes, inheritance, types, functions, contraints, triggers, rules and transaction integrity. The last feature is one that MySQL will never have. PostgreSQL comes with pgaccess, a tcl application also available for windows that looks and runs similar to MSAccess, but not as extensive is MSAccess. PostgreSQL is free (you can purchase support), MySQL costs if you are selling it or selling a product which includes it (or you run it on Win95 or NT), although the client code is GPL. MySQL won't do sub-selects, selects into tables, transactions, triggers, foreign keys (but you get a philosophical reason why you should not use foreign keys) and views.=20 "GROUP BY" on text fields only work if they are fixed length. ALTER TABLE is used for creating and dropping indicies. GRANT is sldo non-functional, MySQL has it's own non-standard security features. I used MySQL and liked it. I found PostgreSQL more similar to the commerical SQL engines I have used and found MySQL more limiting. I switched from MySQL to PostgreSQL and am glad I did. I am looking forward to version 6.5: http://postgresql.nextpath.com/> which will feature multi-version concurency control, a locking scheme which allows reading of locked rows without access errors. --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7402016582929639405==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Wed Apr 14 01:23:30 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Navy using MSFltSim to train pilots Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:23:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3713EE12.B309278D@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3713CF1D.C55359C0@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6529815334054675099==" --===============6529815334054675099== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Merritt wrote: >=20 > I found Jerry's statement humourous, though I do agree with MH: Flight > Sim (I still have ver. 5.1) is a very good program. I've never upgrade > to FS'98, since it is Windows-based, and I've never had good luck with > Windows-based programs. I think that the DOS-based older versions are > much better. I've enjoyed many hours of flying. Perhaps the post was > off-topic, but I intended it as more "general-computing" related rather > than MS-bashing. That's what made the F16 fs from Holobyte Spectrum so stable. You had to boot DOS with pharlap memory mangement. You weren't running windows (not even 3.11) so you didn't have to worry about Windows crashing. I don't remember my F16 DOS based fs ever crashing. Now, my copy of Windows fs is another matter. >=20 > Unrelated, doesn't the ARMY or NAVY one use a customized DOOM for combat > training? >=20 That's what I've heard. --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6529815334054675099==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Wed Apr 14 01:28:27 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux software to run your telescope or whole obseratory Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:28:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3713EF3B.AE60E08F@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3713EF7A.291A4AC@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2728200498732284072==" --===============2728200498732284072== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Fred A. Miller" wrote: >=20 > http://www.Clea= rSkyInstitute.com/xephem/Promo-3.2.gif> (screen shot) >=20 > http://www.ClearSkyIn= stitute.com/xephem/xephem.html> > -- I downloaded and compiled the latest version. It runs great on SuSE 6.0 (I ran the binary on 5.3, which worked great also!) JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2728200498732284072==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Wed Apr 14 01:29:30 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Linux software to run your telescope or whole obseratory Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:29:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3713EF7A.291A4AC@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8945213966205418770==" --===============8945213966205418770== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.ClearSky= Institute.com/xephem/Promo-3.2.gif> (screen shot) http://www.ClearSkyInst= itute.com/xephem/xephem.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8945213966205418770==-- From brumsey@world-net.co.nz Wed Apr 14 01:48:06 1999 From: brumsey@world-net.co.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] New Setup Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:48:06 +1200 Message-ID: <007801be8618$d849b9c0$7d7760cb@brumsey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7395363961488477945==" --===============7395363961488477945== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have S.U.S.E 6.0. I have just installed a new hard driv= e and=20 motherboard
and can not get get windows to work.=20
My mother board is a Pentium 2 mainboard ( m747) with a bu= ilt=20 in high
performance 64 bit 3D AGP Graphics Accelera= tor=20 with 8mb frame buffer. Can can
one tell me how I co= uld=20 set this up please. After a lot of ring= around=20 I have found out the agp board is a SIS 6326 APG.
Thanks
--===============7395363961488477945==-- From lyates@cris.com Wed Apr 14 02:09:28 1999 From: lyates@cris.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:09:28 -0500 Message-ID: <006f01be861b$d7fd6720$0100a8c0@laysi> In-Reply-To: <199904131337.GAA16300@www1.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8080695930322156191==" --===============8080695930322156191== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OOOOO!!! Busted!!! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Karsten Johansson To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study >=20 > Ewan Dunbar wrote: > >=20 > > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote: > >=20 > > >=20 > > > This is DEAD wrong in a lot of areas...but, you should read it. > > Where? I haven't found any problems with it. WAY better than that WSJ > > article. > =20 > Yes, I fail to see where it is dead wrong... especially in a "lot" of=20 > areas. Please explain. >=20 > Karsten Johansson >=20 >=20 > ______________________________________________________ > Get your free web-based email at
http://www.xoom.com> > SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - > http://orders.xoom.com/email> >=20 >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8080695930322156191==-- From imagicra@azstarnet.com Wed Apr 14 02:29:35 1999 From: imagicra@azstarnet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Transparent Netscape Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:29:35 -0700 Message-ID: <3713FD8F.4D073D9A@azstarnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2149380049762167814==" --===============2149380049762167814== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anybody know how to make the gray area in netscape transparent? Any info about what things in SUSE 6.0 can be made transparent and how to do so would also be appreciated.::::))))>>>>>>>> thanks, cleury -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2149380049762167814==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Wed Apr 14 02:53:27 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Navy using MSFltSim to train pilots Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:53:27 -0400 Message-ID: <37140327.52EE27D1@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> In-Reply-To: <3713CF1D.C55359C0@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3046819010928545055==" --===============3046819010928545055== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Merritt wrote: > Unrelated, doesn't the ARMY or NAVY one use a customized DOOM for combat > training? Yes the Navy, or that branch of the Navy called the Marine Corps. ;-) But I digress -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3046819010928545055==-- From jcald@unired.net.pe Wed Apr 14 03:16:45 1999 From: jcald@unired.net.pe To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Suse 6.0: Net::Telnet Core::Open error Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:16:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3714089D.27C179CA@unired.net.pe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3390152879493637736==" --===============3390152879493637736== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi:=20 Writing Makefile for Net::Telnet mkdir blib mkdir blib/lib mkdir blib/lib/Net mkdir blib/arch mkdir blib/arch/auto mkdir blib/arch/auto/Net mkdir blib/arch/auto/Net/Telnet mkdir blib/lib/auto mkdir blib/lib/auto/Net mkdir blib/lib/auto/Net/Telnet mkdir blib/man3 cp lib/Net/Telnet.pm blib/lib/Net/Telnet.pm Manifying blib/man3/Net::Telnet.3pm /usr/bin/make -- OK Running make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=3D1 /usr/bin/perl -Iblib/arch -Iblib/lib -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00502/i586-linux -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00502 -e 'use Test::Harness qw(&runtests $verbose); $verbose=3D0; runtests @ARGV;' t/*.t t/select............Ambiguous call resolved as CORE::open(), qualify as such or use & at blib/lib/Net/Telnet.pm line 1994. ok All tests successful. Files=3D1, Tests=3D1, 1 wallclock secs ( 0.26 cusr + 0.06 csys =3D 0.32 CPU) /usr/bin/make test -- OK Please help with error at install Net::Telnet, and=20 ------------------- Start Code ----------------------- #!/usr/bin/perl -w use Net::Telnet; $t =3D new Net::Telnet (Timeout =3D> 10, Prompt =3D> '/bash\$ $/'); $host=3D"my host"; $username=3D"user"; $passwd=3D"passuser"; $t->open($host); $t->login($username, $passwd); @lines =3D $t->cmd("/usr/bin/who"); print @lines; -------------------- End code ------------------------- uel:~/telnet > ./telnet1.pl Ambiguous call resolved as CORE::open(), qualify as such or use & at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Net/Telnet.pm line 1994. unknown remote host: my host at ./telnet1.pl line 9 Same error!! this modules runned ok on suse5.3. Thanks. Jose Caleron-Celis jcald(a)unired.net.pe -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3390152879493637736==-- From sandsmark@iname.com Wed Apr 14 03:25:17 1999 From: sandsmark@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New Setup Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:25:17 -0700 Message-ID: <37140A9D.6258D101@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <007801be8618$d849b9c0$7d7760cb@brumsey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1704084287103808417==" --===============1704084287103808417== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "B.Rumsey" wrote:
I have S.U.S.E 6.0. I have just installed a new hard drive and motherboard
and can not get get windows to work.
My mother board is a Pentium 2 mainboard ( m747) with a built in high
performance 64 bit 3D AGP Graphics Accelerator with 8mb frame buffer. Can can
one tell me how I could set this up please. After a lot of ring around I have found out the agp board is a SIS 6326 APG.= Thanks


Hi

this is from www.suse.de

i don't know if you have tried this but...........

CHIPSET: SIS 6326

Type : graphic
Frequency: 170
Bus: pci,agp
Driver: This component is supported by XFree86 (since version 3.3.3), module svga
=20

Erfaßt am 23.11.1998
=20
=20

CHIPSET: SIS 6326AGP

Type: graphic
Frequency: 203
Bus: pci,agp
Driver: The support of this component is problematic by XFree86
=20

Erfaßt am 09.03.1999
=20

regards Even --===============1704084287103808417==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Wed Apr 14 03:37:42 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:37:42 -0400 Message-ID: <37140D86.5CDFCA11@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> In-Reply-To: <3713C3DD.DC7848CD@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6647311376774239056==" --===============6647311376774239056== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmmm. Didn't we recently read about an IBM multi-processor machine running The Big Blue Penguin (or whatever they call their flavor of Linux) which blew the freakin' doors off anything MS has ever made? Steve Michael Merritt wrote: > Karsten Johansson wrote: > > > > Ewan Dunbar wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > This is DEAD wrong in a lot of areas...but, you should read it. > > > Where? I haven't found any problems with it. WAY better than that WSJ > > > article. > > > > Yes, I fail to see where it is dead wrong... especially in a "lot" of > > areas. Please explain. > > Well, take the paragraph: > "Missing from Linux are high-availability features that would let one > Linux server step in and take over if another failed; full-fledged > support for computers with multiple > processors; and a "journaling" file system that is necessary to quickly > reboot a crashed machine without having to laboriously reconstruct the > computer's system files, the study said." > > Is Beowulf merely a figment of my imagination? As well as many other > clustering solutions. Try doing half of that with NT. > > Also, my server does quite well using its dual processors -- I'm not > sure how much more support is needed to be "full-fledged?" > > -- > Michael Merritt > michael(a)merrittpop.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/> > michaelmerritt(a)email.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/jmm/> > ICQ: 21021306 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6647311376774239056==-- From imagicra@azstarnet.com Wed Apr 14 03:39:06 1999 From: imagicra@azstarnet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Transparent Netscape? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:39:06 -0700 Message-ID: <37140DDA.21D67258@azstarnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3939164115208141600==" --===============3939164115208141600== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anybody know how to make the gray area in netscape transparent? Any info about what things in SuSE 6.0 can be made transparent and how to do so would also be appreciated.::::))))>>>>>>>> thanks, cleury -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3939164115208141600==-- From magnum@cyberenet.net Wed Apr 14 03:39:49 1999 From: magnum@cyberenet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] com port changes in 2.2.5 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:39:49 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0771980365585116018==" --===============0771980365585116018== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello all, I'm running SuSE 5.2 and have upgraded My kernel to 2.2.5 everything=20 seems to be running find and alot faster but I do have one nagging problem when I boot up in the middle of loading linux I get this error: Configuring serial ports....done. tty_io.c: process 48 (setserial) used obsolete /dev/cua0 - update software to use /dev/ttyS0 cua0 at 0x03f8 (irq =3D 4) is a 16550A tty_io.c: process 48 (setserial) used obsolete /dev/cua1 - update software to use /dev/ttyS1 cua1 at 0x02f8 (irq =3D 3) is a 16550A Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua10: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua11: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua12: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua13: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua14: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua15: No such device tty_io.c: process 48 (setserial) used obsolete /dev/cua2 - update software to usConfiguring serial ports....done. tty_io.c: process 48 (setserial) used obsolete /dev/cua0 - update software to use /dev/ttyS0 cua0 at 0x03f8 (irq =3D 4) is a 16550A tty_io.c: process 48 (setserial) used obsolete /dev/cua1 - update software to use /dev/ttyS1 cua1 at 0x02f8 (irq =3D 3) is a 16550A Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua10: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua11: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua12: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua13: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua14: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua15: No such device tty_io.c: process 48 (setserial) used obsolete /dev/cua2 - update software to us tty_io.c: process 48 (setserial) used obsolete /dev/cua3 - update software to use /dev/ttyS3 Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua4: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua5: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua6: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua7: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua8: No such device Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5 cua9: No such device Does anyone have any suggestions as what to do....?? MagnuM -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0771980365585116018==-- From deem@wdm.com Wed Apr 14 03:43:46 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] The latest wmx11amp is nice! x11amp-0.9-beta1.1 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:43:46 -0800 Message-ID: <199904140343.TAA10011@wdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7932740159422572151==" --===============7932740159422572151== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I run wmaker under SuSE 6.0 and if you like mp3's this is great under windowmaker. Please include this update to x11amp in 6.1 ! Thanks W.D.McKinney (Dee) deem(a)wdm.com Vision & Passion are keys to success. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7932740159422572151==-- From linux1@federal.crc.com Wed Apr 14 03:56:05 1999 From: linux1@federal.crc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] HP550c setup on 6.0 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:56:05 -0400 Message-ID: <003c01be862a$b9310ae0$0100a8c0@punt> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6741115769805182541==" --===============6741115769805182541== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks! Now for another question. I also have an epson 800 (color inkjet). using Yast I dind't see an option for this one. I picked stylus color and put in the same settings (ip, account (guest guest worked for my hp although my win98 doesn't have that account)) and I get nothing. No attempt on the printer to do anything. Any ideas? ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul M. Foster To: Linux1 Cc: SuSE Linux Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] HP550c setup on 6.0 > > > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Linux1 wrote: > > > > > I cant find where this was answered before. > > > > I have an hp550c printer on a windows machine. On the linux box I added a > > network printer (via yast) to use samba. It all works except the font is > > way to small. In addition, how do i change it from printing two pages on one > > in landscape mode? > > > > See /etc/apsfilterrc, about line 236 for the two page on a page problem, > font problem /var/lib/apsfilter/filter/ascii, about line 57. > > HTH, > > Paul Foster > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6741115769805182541==-- From deem@wdm.com Wed Apr 14 04:06:24 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] One Last Time.... Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:06:24 -0800 Message-ID: <199904140406.UAA10095@wdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6448493532002042415==" --===============6448493532002042415== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My HP DeskJet 695C under SuSE 6.0 produces the error captured in the gif:
print.error.gif




This error was from the Netscape print job.
Big bummer not gety this printer working under SuSE.

Please help if you can.
-Dee --===============6448493532002042415==-- From paulf@quillandmouse.com Wed Apr 14 04:24:26 1999 From: paulf@quillandmouse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] HP550c setup on 6.0 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:24:26 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000601be85d0$c4650880$0100a8c0@punt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1789456848488111036==" --===============1789456848488111036== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Linux1 wrote: >=20 > I cant find where this was answered before. >=20 > I have an hp550c printer on a windows machine. On the linux box I added a > network printer (via yast) to use samba. It all works except the font is > way to small. In addition, how do i change it from printing two pages on one > in landscape mode? >=20 See /etc/apsfilterrc, about line 236 for the two page on a page problem, font problem /var/lib/apsfilter/filter/ascii, about line 57. HTH, Paul Foster -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1789456848488111036==-- From chapmanb@u.washington.edu Wed Apr 14 04:41:44 1999 From: chapmanb@u.washington.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] httpd Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:41:44 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <38BA9F9F.AAA10FF5@telekurs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3143640144933878078==" --===============3143640144933878078== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Every time I boot, I get an error that httpd cannot determine my host name. First, could someone please tell me what httpd would be used for, and second, do I need to start it at boot? Do I need to use httpd if the only network I connect to uses dhcp? (I'm a new user if you can't tell!) Thanks Brian -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3143640144933878078==-- From mcenaney@world.std.com Wed Apr 14 05:14:38 1999 From: mcenaney@world.std.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fwd: RHAD Labs announces GNOME 1.0 RPMS for Red Hat Linux 5.2 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:14:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3714243E.3BBCDCE2@world.std.com> In-Reply-To: <199904131756.KAA00691@speedy.linuxcare.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6942301746140158124==" --===============6942301746140158124== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Perry wrote: >=20 > I am forwarding this message from the gnome mailing list in the hopes > that SuSE Management will see that supporting gnome with periodic > releases of enhanced rpm packages is a good idea!! I would like to > encourage SuSE to take a look at enhancing their releases of rpm > updates to include updating gnome to the latest level. Many people > would like to try gnome but are dissuaded by the rather unusual package > dependencies and the intricacies of compiling almost 20 programs that > may have a whole bunch of other requirements. [snip] I just want to add my plea to Michael's. Please, SuSE, make gnome rpm=20 updates a high priority. A return to Redhat is beginning to look _very_ attractive right about now just because of this one issue. I simply=20 adore the gnome/windowmaker desktop combo and I'm a big S.u.S.E. fan but=20 the lack of any effort from SuSE to keep up with gnome releases is really=20 starting to bum me out. :-( -- Brendan McEnaney http= ://world/~mcenaney> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6942301746140158124==-- From im@hem.passagen.se Wed Apr 14 05:17:56 1999 From: im@hem.passagen.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] xdm Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:17:56 +0200 Message-ID: <37142504.9822CA6@hem.passagen.se> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6293923183864773950==" --===============6293923183864773950== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable press ctrl-alt-f1 and you will see the last screen of messages. or open a xterm and type dmesg that will give you some of the messages at boot, but not all. There is also a file somewhere which is the last boot... but I can't remember where right now... (Not infront of my linux right now...) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6293923183864773950==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Wed Apr 14 05:46:39 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Linux geeks getting real, with pizza Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:46:39 -0400 Message-ID: <37142BBF.783B9198@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7240943685824887367==" --===============7240943685824887367== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable htt= p://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2241435,00.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7240943685824887367==-- From deem@wdm.com Wed Apr 14 05:59:58 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] One Last Time.... Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:59:58 -0800 Message-ID: <199904140559.VAA11088@wdm.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] One Last Time....> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6739391210029324879==" --===============6739391210029324879== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anthony Schlemmer wrote: > "W.D.McKinney" wrote: > >=20 > > My HP DeskJet 695C under SuSE 6.0 produces the error captured in the gif: > >=20 > > Name: print.error.gif > > print.error.gif Type: GIF Image (image/gif) > > Encoding: base64 > >=20 > > Part 1.1.3Type: text/enriched >=20 >=20 > When I print from netscape I have it set to print to the printer and > have "lpr" set as the print command. Can you print to your printer if > you do something like "cat /etc/passwd | lpr"?=20 >=20 >=20 Hi And thanks for the help. Here's the output from # cat /etc/passwd | lpr ?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,- ?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,= -. @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-= ./ ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-.= /0 BCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./= 01 CDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./0= 12 DEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./01= 23 EFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./012= 34 FGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123= 45 GHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./01234= 56 HIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./012345= 67 IJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456= 78 JKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./01234567= 89 KLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./012345678= 9: LMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789= :; MNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:= ;< NOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;= <=3D OPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<= =3D> PQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<= =3D>? 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>=20 >=20 >=20 > I know that Netscape > outputs Postscript and so you'll need to have your printer setup to run > the stuff through Ghostscript in order to get the output to print on a > non-postscript printer. I don't have any experience with the HP Deskjet. > I have an older PCL-5 based HP Laserjet and with Ghostscript I'm able to > print stuff from any program that produces Postscript output. >=20 > I setup LaserJet through YaST...Have your tried configuring your printer > through YaST? Yes, that is how I set it up. Any more ideas ? -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6739391210029324879==-- From mmoser@sairgroup.com Wed Apr 14 07:12:03 1999 From: mmoser@sairgroup.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Suse 6.0 & Kernel 2.2.5 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:12:03 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2468443820008630652==" --===============2468443820008630652== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have one of you all , ever installed the 2.2.5 kernel? I download it from suseftp the lx_update and other update rpms and install it, but during compilation of zImage it stops errors in irda cleanup etc..... have you installed any additional updates to success the compilation of 2.2.5 Kernel. I would be happy to hear bout your success stories Greetings Max -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2468443820008630652==-- From gh@simteam.com Wed Apr 14 07:38:27 1999 From: gh@simteam.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SUSE RPMs vs RedHat RPMs Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:38:27 +0200 Message-ID: <371445F3.10FFCCF9@simteam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8672520911980851069==" --===============8672520911980851069== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings to all, I'm a SUSE 6.0 User, I use GNOME 1.0.x which I downloaded as SUSE RPMs from the GNOME website. by looking fo various software on the web I always found (almost) redHat RPMs and rarely SUSE Rpms. I do have questions ; + What is the difference between them ?? + What will happend if I install a Red Hat RPM on my SUSE system ?? + Can anybody explain to me why they are different RPMs ?? IMHO RPM should be a standard because one name should only refer to the same thing, or people get lost like with MiKro$oft shit. I found RPMs very convenient because you can easily install or deisntall stuff and query your system about what s on it. I know that lots of you like the tarball stuff, but for multiple machine management RPMs are just great. Those of course are just my 0.02 euro :) thoughts. Best regards to All, GH Portefait -- "Computers are like air conditioners - they stop working properly when you open Windows" -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/CC d-@ s+:- C++(++++)UL++>++++ P++>++++ L++>+++ E-W+(++) N++ !o K- w !O M(++) V? !PS !PE y+ PGP+++ t+ 5? X R* tv b+ DI? D+ G+++ e+++ h+ r y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ht= tp://www.geekcode.com>
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From gh@simteam.com Wed Apr 14 07:40:47 1999
From: gh@simteam.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Lyx trouble with the version from the web site
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:40:47 +0200
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Greetings to all,

I use Lyx from the SUSE 6.0 CDs, I triied to upgrade to version 1.0 from
the web site (http://www.lyx.org>) I didn't succeed ( it's at home so I
don't have the message at hand) did anybody has success trying that ??

Regards to all.

GH Portefait


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From venrooij@casema.net Wed Apr 14 07:55:29 1999
From: venrooij@casema.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] com port changes in 2.2.5
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:55:29 +0200
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Hi,

In short, it comes down to this: starting with stable kernel 2.2.0, the cuaX
(X any number) devices have become obsolete. You should somehow switch to
using the corresponding ttySX devices instead. As your output suggests, you
have to upgrade setserial. Since cuaX is a character device with major number
five, the alias char-major-5 in /etc/conf.modules should probably be set to
off.
For more accurate information, read the documentation that comes with the
2.2.5 kernel, especially the Changes and devices.txt documents, in
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/

Good luck,
Tim.

Charles Yurek wrote:

> hello all,
>
> I'm running SuSE 5.2 and have upgraded My kernel to 2.2.5 everything
> seems to be running find and alot faster but I do have one nagging problem
> when I boot up in the middle of loading linux I get this error:
>
> Configuring serial ports....done.
> tty_io.c: process 48 (setserial) used obsolete /dev/cua0 - update software
> to use /dev/ttyS0
> cua0 at 0x03f8 (irq =3D 4) is a 16550A
> tty_io.c: process 48 (setserial) used obsolete /dev/cua1 - update software
> to use /dev/ttyS1
> cua1 at 0x02f8 (irq =3D 3) is a 16550A
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua10: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua11: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua12: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua13: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua14: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua15: No such device
> tty_io.c: process 48 (setserial) used obsolete /dev/cua2 - update software
> to usConfiguring serial ports....done.
> tty_io.c: process 48 (setserial) used obsolete /dev/cua0 - update software
> to use /dev/ttyS0
> cua0 at 0x03f8 (irq =3D 4) is a 16550A
> tty_io.c: process 48 (setserial) used obsolete /dev/cua1 - update software
> to use /dev/ttyS1
> cua1 at 0x02f8 (irq =3D 3) is a 16550A
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua10: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua11: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua12: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua13: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua14: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua15: No such device
> tty_io.c: process 48 (setserial) used obsolete /dev/cua2 - update software
> to us
> tty_io.c: process 48 (setserial) used obsolete /dev/cua3 - update software
> to use /dev/ttyS3
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua4: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua5: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua6: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua7: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua8: No such device
> Apr 13 22:37:17 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-5
> cua9: No such device
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as what to do....??
>
>        MagnuM
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From milvus@get2net.dk Wed Apr 14 08:03:28 1999
From: milvus@get2net.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Hi-speed serial ports
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:03:28 +0200
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For use with an external ISDN modem I would like a serial port (just
one) that goes higher than the standard 152000 bps.

Anyone have experience with the Titan TC-200-5 or TC-200-6 or can
recommend other hi-speed one-port serial cards available in Denmark (or
maybe Europe as a whole).


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From billy_wyatt@hotmail.com Wed Apr 14 08:29:18 1999
From: billy_wyatt@hotmail.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] LS120
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:29:18 +0000
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Hi

I am new to linux (been using RedHat for a month), and have order=20
suse 6.1 (looking forward to useing it).

I ahve 2 pc at home one been a PII 350 with a 10gb and 4gb hard disk=20
this also has a LS120 FFD it work under windows and dos, when I=20
install Redhat on the 4gb is did not see it, have taken off redhat.

The other pc is a PII 233 with a 2gb and a 4gb hard disk redhat is on=20
the 2gb and I will install suse on the 4gb. I would like to install a=20
LS120 on this pc so that i can copy large files from one pc to the=20
other. I will be setting up a net work when I gwt my laptop (wife say=20
it be next year if I am good)

Also is ther a user group in Worcestershire.

Thanks

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From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Wed Apr 14 09:03:48 1999
From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.5 kernel compile
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:03:48 +0100
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Emmanuel

On 29 Feb 00, at 2:14, Emmanuel wrote:

> So have you figure out how to put the newly compile kernel into action. I
> have the similar problem here

> >  cd  /usr/src
> >  rm linux
> >  tar zxvf  linux-2.2.5.tar.gz
> >  (assuming that the linux-2.2.5.tar.gz file is in /usr/src -
> >  copy/paste in X-windows)
> >  mv linux linux-2.2.5
> >  ln -s linux-2.2.5 linux
> >  cd linux
> >  make xconfig (in X-windows)
> >  at this point it pays to wake up a bit.... -   ... there is a
> > default setting for multi-processor support which is of no use
> > whatsoever for the normal PC user.  Watch out for it !!  Select the
> > processor that suits your own needs.
> >
> >  make dep
> >  make clean
> >  make bzImage --ignore-errors
> >  make modules
> >  make modules_install
> >  make bzlilo--ignore-errors

        The hardest part was make bzIamge.  It took me a day or two to work=20
out that --ignore-errors was needed to get it to work.

        If you can't get a part of the compile to go just put --ignore-
errors and see if that works.  (I can just about see an SuSE=20
progammer frowning at me from the other end of the table).

        If it goes together and you reboot and it doesn't work you can=20
rescue your machine with a boot disk and YaST.  It's always a bit=20
difficult to explain this kind of problem with e-mail.  Better to=20
stand in front of a machine and give a demo.

        Hope this helps ?

Thanks

Richard
Sheffield UK
0973 682181

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From tajc@goes.com Wed Apr 14 10:17:58 1999
From: tajc@goes.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SUSE 6.0/HP550 printing problem
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:17:58 -0400
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Use lp0 instead of lp1. This changed with 2.2x kernels.

Martin Drake wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm a bit embarrassed to ask for help on this issue 'cause it's
> something I've already sorted out once, but can't remember anymore how I
> did it.
>
> When I try to print to my HP550, the printer begins its initialisation,
> whirrs and groans 'til it arrives at the point of loading the paper,
> then stops. The jobs stay stuck in the print queue and the printer
> cycles into this initialisation routine once every 30s or so.
>
> I had the same problem when I first installed SUSE 6.0 with kernel
> 2.0.36, but subsequently cured the problem somehow. I tweaked something
> and voil=C3=A0, bingo, it worked. Wish I could remember what...
>
> Anyway, being at a bit of a loose end last weekend I downloaded and
> installed the 2.2.5 kernel from the SUSE FTP server. Following which,
> everything seemed to be OK until I wanted to print something this
> evening, when the printer problem reappeared.
>
> Some more pertinent info:
>
> - the driver I am using is cdj550
> - printer is on LPT1 in Windows so I am configuring it for /dev/lp1 in
> YAST
> - I can "cat" a file to the printer as /dev/lp1
> - I've tried 300x300 and 360x360 resolutions so far without success
> - "lpq" tells me "waiting for printer to become ready (offline?)"
> - system is a Dell PII 350, 64MB RAM, all EIDE
> - I don't seem to be able to correct the problem when I boot back into
> 2.0.36 either.
>
> Hoping someone can shed some light on this for me, before I have to take
> any more flak from the wife (unfortunately she's a die-hard Windows
> fan).
>
> Thanks.
>
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From klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu Wed Apr 14 10:29:50 1999
From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] NT Boot loader
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:29:50 +0000
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M$ offers a free utility which they claim allows you to add *one* Linux (or O=
S/2) partition to the NT bootloader menu. See:

http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/exec/ven=
dors/freeshare/Maintnce.asp#boot>

--Kevin

On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:04:47 +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:

>
>Hi all,
>
>The PC I've installed Linux on dual boots NT4.
>
>Its a straight-forward SuSE 5.2 installation which I did this morning.
>
>I want edit boot.ini so booting Linux is an option.  Is there a HOWTO for
>this?
>
>The SuSE manual has loads of commands along the lines of dd if/=3Ddev bs=3D5=
12.
>Where is there help on what all this means and how to use it?  It looks
>sensible but difficult to learn without some form of HOWTO.
>
>Please do send any advice, links!
>
>Thanks.
>
>Patrick
>
>Wise Chinese Proverb: "Fed up of your computer winning at chess?  Try it at
>kick-boxing instead!"
>
>Patrick Kirk of Enterprise HR
>
>Tel: 0044 118 939 1122  Web: http://www.enterprise-hr.com>
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From crumb@midwest.net Wed Apr 14 10:34:19 1999
From: crumb@midwest.net
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Subject: [SLE] Help for SiS 530
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        I can't seem to be able to get my SiS 530 to work with 
XFCom_SiS, which is SuSE's new X updates.  I am running 6.1 in 
VMWare in NT.  I can't seem to be able to find an entry for 530 in 
either xf86config, XF86Setup or SaX, even when invoking SaX with 
the -s XFCom_SiS switch.  It always starts up to vga16 by default, 
even after I correct a symlink that was pointing to vga16 server.  
Then I received errno 111.  I'm not sure what could be wrong 
because I verified the package was installed.  

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From kester@cwcom.net Wed Apr 14 10:36:52 1999
From: kester@cwcom.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Auto power-off
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:36:52 +0100
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Are you using 'halt' with the -p option in your shutdown script?
 'Shutdown -h now' calls halt and to power off automatically, halt must be
called with the -p option.  Check the man pages for shutdown and halt for
all the options. ;-)
k.

:
:I 'm not able to auto power off my linux box.
:I've an ATX PII, kernel 2.2.5 with auto power off option enabled.
:windoze (bleah!) 9x can do it easily, why my beatyful Linux cannot?
:
:Thanx
:NanniX
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From samelash@ix.netcom.com Wed Apr 14 10:43:24 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sql for linux and can windows apps access the linux
 sql server ??
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:43:24 +0000
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>> I would like to set up an sql server on linux for the widows apps to
acess .
>> 1/ can this be done ?
>Absolutely.
>> 2/ I am looking at 2 to 3 users with a max of 5 users. two or three apps.
>There a number of Databases available. Adabas, MySQL, mSQL, PostreSQL
>are 4 that come off the top of my head. Also, Oracle, Informix and all
>of the other major Database vendors have Linux versions as well.

>For your purposes, one of the first 4 should be good.
>> 3/ I want to keep it simple and basic nothing fancy.
>MySQL, mSQL and PostreSQL are all free and basic enough. They are mostly
>command line (there are GUI apps as well) and provide good performance.

What do you mean by command line ?

I assume(bear with me) that the sql database just sit there and waits for
commands/requaest and answers them. Am i right here ?? I thought you need
to use you app to pass the requast (vi driver) ect...

What kind of gui apps ?? Do they have a programing language ???=20

>> 4/ I will nees jdbc support as I am looking to move to java
>I dunno about JDBC but I think all of the above have JDBC and ODBC
>support.
>> 5/ how hard / easw is it to set up the server ?

>I'm most familiar with MySQL. It was very easy to install (install the
>package, create the database and go).

 OK thats a start. What do you use to build your local/ws apps ??=20
I assume you need to write the application /gui ?
What text based options are there besides gui ?

>> 6/ how hard / easy ios it to get the windows apps to see the server ?
>>     Do you just need to set up the driver . or give the ipaddress ???
>The driver will most likely need a hostname or IP address. Maybe a
>database name (I'm not very familiar with JDBC or ODBC)
>> any pitfalls in what I want to do ??
>Well, you don't want to do any pitfalls if you can avoid it :) There is
>a wealth of documentation out there for all of them. Here's some of the
>URL's:
>
>MySQL:		http://www.mysql.com>
>mSQL:		http://www.hughes.com.au>
>PostgreSQL:	http://www.postgresql.org>
>
>are the ones off the top of my head
>
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What do you use for the front end of your apps ??

Also , you mentioned the tcl ? Can you give more ionfo ?
Can it be used to create a dtata base application ??
What programing languege does it use ?

>>=20
>
>I would suggest PostgreSQL because of what mysql lacks.  MySQL is only
>about 10 0.000000aster than PostgreSQL but the latter is more compliant to
>ANSI SQL92 standards.  PostgreSQL offers classes, inheritance, types,
>functions, contraints, triggers, rules and transaction integrity.  The
>last feature is one that MySQL will never have.  PostgreSQL comes with
>pgaccess, a tcl application also available for windows that looks and
>runs similar to MSAccess, but not as extensive is MSAccess.  PostgreSQL
>is free (you can purchase support), MySQL costs if you are selling it or
>selling a product which includes it (or you run it on Win95 or NT),
>although the client code is GPL.  MySQL won't do sub-selects, selects
>into tables, transactions, triggers, foreign keys (but you get a
>philosophical reason why you should not use foreign keys) and views.=20
>"GROUP BY" on text fields only work if they are fixed length.  ALTER
>TABLE is used for creating and dropping indicies.  GRANT is sldo
>non-functional, MySQL has it's own non-standard security features.  I
>used MySQL and liked it.  I found PostgreSQL more similar to the
>commerical SQL engines I have used and found MySQL more limiting.  I
>switched from MySQL to PostgreSQL and am glad I did.  I am looking
>forward to version 6.5: http://postgresql.nextpath.com/> which will
>feature multi-version concurency control, a locking scheme which allows
>reading of locked rows without access errors.
>
>--=20
>
>JLK
>Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is
>right.
>
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] /usr/bin/gpm: /dev/mouse: No such device
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:01:19 +0100
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Hi all,

Just installed 5.2 this morning and could not get Linux to see my mouse.
Its a Microsoft two buttons serial mouse.

In the boot process there were some messages about /dev/cua0,1,etc. not
found.

Does anyone know how to fix this?  All help appreciated as I can't get
beyond the login to KDE 'til the mouse gets sorted.

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From grimmer@suse.de Wed Apr 14 11:07:59 1999
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Hi,

On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, B. Chapman wrote:

> Every time I boot, I get an error that httpd cannot determine my host
> name.  First, could someone please tell me what httpd would be used for,

httpd is the Apache WWW-Server. It is started by default for the online
help system. You can disable it, if you do not need a running Web Server
and the help system. Just set START_HTTPD to "no" in /etc/rc.config

> and second, do I need to start it at boot?  Do I need to use httpd if the
> only network I connect to uses dhcp? (I'm a new user if you can't tell!)

No, you do not need it for this purpose.

Bye,
        LenZ


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From roed@hem.utfors.se Wed Apr 14 11:20:03 1999
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Hi All!

When you reply, _please_ only quote those lines, that you are answering
to.

TIA

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From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Wed Apr 14 11:29:48 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] DISREGARD! /usr/bin/gpm: /dev/mouse: No such device
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Hi all,

For reasons I don't understand, rebooting fixed everything.  Sorry for any
time wasted!

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From klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu Wed Apr 14 11:39:45 1999
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Can't help you there directly quite as much, since I rely on the OS/2 Bootman=
ager for all such duties on my own machines.=20
However, there is a mini-howto on how to get this to work under the NT loader=
 at:

http://me=
talab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html>

not to mention the  standard howto on how to do the equivalent under LILO rat=
her than the NT Bootloader at:

http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/Multiboot-with-LI=
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Good luck,

--Kevin

On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:22:20 +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:

>
>Thanks Kevin.
>
>Got bootpart.  Unzipped it and it runs saying the partitions and giving them
>part numbers.
>
>My Linux is on part 2.
>
>To change boot.ini, I need to run bootpart.exe <2> 
>??
>
>Sorry - I don't understand the instructions at all.  Does anyone know the
>name and path to the linux boot file or what its called?
>
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From xsusex@hotmail.com Wed Apr 14 12:06:52 1999
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I'm assuming you are using the halt command. If you look at the source
for /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt, there's a command=3D"halt", just add a -p
after tt. It should be command=3D"halt -p"

2.2.x seems affected.=20

>From: "Giovanni Cambria" 
>To: "Suse" 
>Subject: [SuSE Linux] Auto power-off
>Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:28:54 +0200
>
>
>I 'm not able to auto power off my linux box.
>I've an ATX PII, kernel 2.2.5 with auto power off option enabled.
>windoze (bleah!) 9x can do it easily, why my beatyful Linux cannot?
>
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From gh@simteam.com Wed Apr 14 12:56:27 1999
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Hi Lincoln,

Lincoln M C a =C3=A9crit :

> rpm -U whatever.rpm --nodeps

I  also did, but it seems to me that doing that you loose some interrest of
using RPMs, or does that just ignore dependancies it relies on ??  is there
any chance you break something doing that ???

> If one of the scripts within the rpm fails because it can find a program
> in the correct place this can normaly be fixed. Yesterday I was
> clobbered by a package not being able to find grep in /bin.  I had grep
> installed but in the suse place.  I just added a symbolic link between
> /bin/grep and /usr/bin/grep.  This fixed it.

You are saying that some programs are not installed in the same place from
linux to linux !!!
This must end as quickly as possible !?!?

>
>
>  Get the source rpm and  try :-
>
> rpm --rebuild mysourcerpm.src.rpm
>
> (or suse use .spm)
>
> then look in  /usr/src/packages/RPMS/i386
>
> You should find  a recompiled version of the rpm, this will be linked
> against all your libs.
>
> Sometimes this takes a bit of hacking.

Do you mean that i you get the source RPM you can rebuild a binary RPM which
fits your system ?? If so, does that means that when there are only redhat
package, I just have to get the source RPM then try to rebuild it for my
system ??

>
>
> You can get suse rpms for gnome from a site thats linked off the gonome
> site.  Unfortunatly they are RPM'ed with a very new version of RPM and
> my version  (as came with suse 6.0) wont install them.
>
> Maybe we should set up a suse RPM site.  I have the space (and bandwidth
> 8-)) to host it untill the usage got noticed 8-).
>
> I have the following programs rpm'ed for suse :-
>
> cdrecord-1.6.1-12.i386.rpm
> lyx-1.0.1-2.i386.rpm
> xawtv-2.40-1.i386.rpm
>

I'd love to get the new version of Lyx the one I have does not support figures
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From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Wed Apr 14 14:04:47 1999
From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com
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Hi all,

The PC I've installed Linux on dual boots NT4.

Its a straight-forward SuSE 5.2 installation which I did this morning.

I want edit boot.ini so booting Linux is an option.  Is there a HOWTO for
this?

The SuSE manual has loads of commands along the lines of dd if/=3Ddev bs=3D51=
2.
Where is there help on what all this means and how to use it?  It looks
sensible but difficult to learn without some form of HOWTO.

Please do send any advice, links!

Thanks.

Patrick

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From imm@KidsCare.Net Wed Apr 14 14:05:39 1999
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:05:39 -0500
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I'm setting the enviroment so I can install a program.
However I'm having trouble editing bashrc.
I have found bashrc files in /etc/skel and /usr/lib.
I picked the one in etc since most config files are there.
I added the lines I needed but it won't save.
Where did I go wrong this time??
Any help much appreciated
Thank you,
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From tsteven@maptel.es Wed Apr 14 14:51:27 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Disassemmbler Intel x86
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Hi, Could anyone on the list point me in the direction of a decent
disassembler for Intel cpu's up to and including pentium 1( for use
under SuSE linux 5.3/2.0.36)
Thanks in advance Trevor.


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From mstriani@cvtci.com.ar Wed Apr 14 15:06:20 1999
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Subject: RV: [SuSE Linux] Can't use de kppp
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Sorry but in my kde I dont have any Internet menu, maybe I have an older kde, my SuSE is 5.1 with kernel 2.2.3 and yast 0.99 somthing

--===============7790606543104823148==-- From KEdmunds@eu.wcom.net Wed Apr 14 15:12:52 1999 From: KEdmunds@eu.wcom.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading a SuSE system Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:12:52 +0100 Message-ID: <61EC0C104A7DD211A29B00805FAD4FBA4BBE12@UKR-EXCH-01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6281287079656428574==" --===============6281287079656428574== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I went to install Samba V2 on my SuSE 6.0 system last night. The problem, of course, is the location of the files, which is different on SuSE 6 to the defaults in Samba (which puts them somewhere under /usr/local). This is an ongoing issue - I had the same problem upgrading fvwm2. What's a good solution to this one? Can SuSE document how they place files, so that when I run 'configure' I can give the correct arguments to upgrade the correct files? Keith -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at
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Sorry to bother, but I ordered SuSE 6.0 on 12 march and I= =20 didnt get anything yet, I live in Argentina, South America. I already mailed = suse and didnt get any answer.
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--===============0708849497595639946==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Wed Apr 14 15:22:20 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] NT Boot loader Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:22:20 +0100 Message-ID: <000001be868a$96949000$1900000a@p25> In-Reply-To: <199904141430.KAA09179@smtp1.fas.harvard.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3533245469059499425==" --===============3533245469059499425== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Kevin. Got bootpart. Unzipped it and it runs saying the partitions and giving them part numbers. My Linux is on part 2. To change boot.ini, I need to run bootpart.exe <2> ?? Sorry - I don't understand the instructions at all. Does anyone know the name and path to the linux boot file or what its called? Patrick -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3533245469059499425==-- From klkkelly@netscape.net Wed Apr 14 15:27:19 1999 From: klkkelly@netscape.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] swap partition and multitasking Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:27:19 -0400 Message-ID: <19990414152719.14296.qmail@ww183.netaddress.usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3758854864652935919==" --===============3758854864652935919== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable While working with various memory hungry apps (Netscape, Star Office, WP, etc.) I have been monitoring my swap usage. I have an AMD 300Mhz K6 w/ 32 megs of ram kernel 2.2.5 and have dedicated 125M to a swap partition. When I run multiple applications I notice that performance suffers greatly and my swap partition is barely being utilized. The most I have ever seen being used is about 8 Meg using Xsysinfo and the free command. It seems like all of the swap that I allocated is going to waste. Does anyone know of any parameters that I might have failed to configure? The behavior was the same with the "stock" EIDE kernel that w/the distribution. Thanks, Kenneth=20 ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://we= bmail.netscape.com>. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3758854864652935919==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Wed Apr 14 16:14:31 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] NT Boot loader Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:14:31 +0100 Message-ID: <000401be8691$e0db4940$1900000a@p25> In-Reply-To: <199904141540.LAA07244@smtp2.fas.harvard.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2480596265948885854==" --===============2480596265948885854== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Kevin. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Croxen [mailto:kl= croxen(a)fas.harvard.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 1999 12:40 > To: pkirk(a)enterprise-hr.com; Suse-Linux-E > Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] NT Boot loader > > > Can't help you there directly quite as much, since I rely on the > OS/2 Bootmanager for all such duties on my own machines. > However, there is a mini-howto on how to get this to work under > the NT loader at: > > http://= metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html> > > > not to mention the standard howto on how to do the equivalent > under LILO rather than the NT Bootloader at: > http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/Multiboot-with-LI= LO> Good luck, --Kevin On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:22:20 +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote: > >Thanks Kevin. > >Got bootpart. Unzipped it and it runs saying the partitions and giving them >part numbers. > >My Linux is on part 2. > >To change boot.ini, I need to run bootpart.exe <2> >?? > >Sorry - I don't understand the instructions at all. Does anyone know the >name and path to the linux boot file or what its called? > >Patrick > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2480596265948885854==-- From rimez@surfree.com Wed Apr 14 16:17:43 1999 From: rimez@surfree.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] NT Boot loader Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:17:43 -0400 Message-ID: <99041412225000.02469@rimez> In-Reply-To: <000001be868a$96949000$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0214586978477004941==" --===============0214586978477004941== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, you wrote: You should go here for the mini how-to=20 http://me= talab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html> I've got a site that I'm working on that is geared towards the newbie that you may find helpful (then again maybe not ;-). I can all but guarantee that it will lead you in the right direction for all but the weirdest problems. It's just a reference site. any way here it is http://public.surfree= .com/rimez> > Thanks Kevin. >=20 > Got bootpart. Unzipped it and it runs saying the partitions and giving them > part numbers. >=20 > My Linux is on part 2. >=20 > To change boot.ini, I need to run bootpart.exe <2> > ?? >=20 > Sorry - I don't understand the instructions at all. Does anyone know the > name and path to the linux boot file or what its called? >=20 > Patrick >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0214586978477004941==-- From phostetl@columbus.rr.com Wed Apr 14 16:19:12 1999 From: phostetl@columbus.rr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:19:12 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3713C3DD.DC7848CD@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8927588165822867025==" --===============8927588165822867025== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Michael Merritt wrote: > Well, take the paragraph: > "Missing from Linux are high-availability features that would let one > Linux server step in and take over if another failed; full-fledged > support for computers with multiple > processors; and a "journaling" file system that is necessary to quickly > reboot a crashed machine without having to laboriously reconstruct the > computer's system files, the study said." >=20 > Is Beowulf merely a figment of my imagination? As well as many other > clustering solutions. Try doing half of that with NT. Beowulf is high performance not high availability. Compare Beowulf http://www.beowulf.org/intro.html> with an IBM RS600= 0 AIX SP system h= ttp://www.rs6000.ibm.com/resource/technology/spraswp.html#abs>. NT isn't even a player IMHO. But when you compare Linux on a 2 processor PC to a 64 cpu SGI IRIX box or an IBM RS6000 AIX SP setup, Linux does come up short by comparison in all of the areas they mention. Not that the shortcomings aren't being addressed... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8927588165822867025==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Wed Apr 14 16:19:40 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:19:40 -0700 Message-ID: <199904141619.JAA30026@www1.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9045544419756206276==" --===============9045544419756206276== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For the clustering thing, I agree that their information is incorrect. But Linux does take a long long time to boot if it is cold-rebooted. If you hit the power switch on an NT box, it takes the same amount of time to boot as it does if you didn't do that. And the file structure remains intact, save for files that may have been opened prior to the reboot. Linux forces a file system check and has lots of things to fix when this=20 occurs. On a large drive with lots of files, this takes a *really* long time. Alas... the writer fails to point out that if you are using clustering, who=20 cares how long it takes to boot when other machines are there to take over th= e=20 reigns while the rebooted one gets its act together. Steven's claim here seems to say that Linux Beowulf outperforms NT clustering= . =20 I have never seen stats on this. Do they exist? As for the dual pentium.. t= he=20 article did not say that it wont work... it used the term "full fledged=20 support". Linux has only very basic support for dual processors. NT has the= =20 whole shebang, and can be tuned til the cows come home. Linux will get there= ... The article was nitpicky at most, and definitely selective in its reporting, = but=20 the only thing that isn't true in it is the clustering statement. But then=20 again... what does it take to cluster a bunch of NT machines, and what does i= t=20 take to cluster a bunch of Linux machines? Laters, Karsten Johansson "Steven T. Hatton" wrote: >=20 > Hmmm. Didn't we recently read about an IBM multi-processor machine running > The Big Blue Penguin (or whatever they call their flavor of Linux) which b= lew > the freakin' doors off anything MS has ever made? >=20 > Steve >=20 > Michael Merritt wrote: >=20 > > Karsten Johansson wrote: > > > > > > Ewan Dunbar wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is DEAD wrong in a lot of areas...but, you should read it. > > > > Where? I haven't found any problems with it. WAY better than that W= SJ > > > > article. > > > > > > Yes, I fail to see where it is dead wrong... especially in a "lot" of > > > areas. Please explain. > > > > Well, take the paragraph: > > "Missing from Linux are high-availability features that would let one > > Linux server step in and take over if another failed; full-fledged > > support for computers with multiple > > processors; and a "journaling" file system that is necessary to quickly > > reboot a crashed machine without having to laboriously reconstruct the > > computer's system files, the study said." > > > > Is Beowulf merely a figment of my imagination? As well as many other > > clustering solutions. Try doing half of that with NT. > > > > Also, my server does quite well using its dual processors -- I'm not > > sure how much more support is needed to be "full-fledged?" ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9045544419756206276==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Wed Apr 14 16:24:33 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Relational database/contact manager Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:24:33 +0100 Message-ID: <000501be8693$47d5c8e0$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2706371661275609756==" --===============2706371661275609756== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an Access application that consists of 9000 contacts in two thousand companies and I have created a simple relational database with forms to manage these contacts. Is there a Linux equivalent of Access? Patrick Kirk of Enterprise HR Tel: 0044 118 939 1122 Web: http://www.enterprise-hr.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2706371661275609756==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Wed Apr 14 16:26:09 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] NT Boot loader Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:26:09 -0700 Message-ID: <199904141626.JAA32310@www1.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] NT Boot loader> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5863422556429449397==" --===============5863422556429449397== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are far fewer steps involved in getting LILO to boot NT than for the NT= =20 loader to boot Linux. There are FAQs on how to do the latter but not the=20 former. On my system, I installed both at the same time. But the way I installed NT = was to format the partition first, and then ran the NT install without the=20 setup disk so it would not take over the whole drive. You have this already = done, though. I then booted back to Linux using the emergency diskette, and then put the=20 LILO entries in lilo.conf, then ran LILO, and it works flawlessly. Actually,= =20 I later uninstalled NT because my video drivers for it were terrible, but the= =20 drivers under 95 were much better. I did the dual boot this way because after reading how involved it is to get = NT loader to load Linux, it wasn't worth all the hassle. And you have to red= o=20 parts of it every time you recompile the Linux kernel. Using LILO you don't = have to do these things. Laters, Karsten "Patrick Kirk" wrote: >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > The PC I've installed Linux on dual boots NT4. >=20 > Its a straight-forward SuSE 5.2 installation which I did this morning. >=20 > I want edit boot.ini so booting Linux is an option. Is there a HOWTO for > this? >=20 > The SuSE manual has loads of commands along the lines of dd if/=3Ddev bs= =3D512. > Where is there help on what all this means and how to use it? It looks > sensible but difficult to learn without some form of HOWTO. >=20 > Please do send any advice, links! >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > Patrick >=20 > Wise Chinese Proverb: "Fed up of your computer winning at chess? Try it at > kick-boxing instead!" >=20 > Patrick Kirk of Enterprise HR >=20 > Tel: 0044 118 939 1122 Web: http://www.enterprise-hr.com> >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5863422556429449397==-- From rimez@surfree.com Wed Apr 14 17:04:33 1999 From: rimez@surfree.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] NT Boot loader Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:04:33 -0400 Message-ID: <99041413081500.02678@rimez> In-Reply-To: <199904141626.JAA32310@www1.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5251275623044473099==" --===============5251275623044473099== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Karsten Johansson wrote: > There are far fewer steps involved in getting LILO to boot NT than for the = NT=20 > loader to boot Linux. There are FAQs on how to do the latter but not the=20 > former. I do believe that the SDB does address both. http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/nt2.html> ciao, rimez -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5251275623044473099==-- From M.vanOostende@inter.NL.net Wed Apr 14 18:08:54 1999 From: M.vanOostende@inter.NL.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Navy using MSFltSim to train pilots Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:08:54 +0200 Message-ID: <3714D9B5.6296@inter.NL.net> In-Reply-To: <3713EE12.B309278D@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4278047182649554750==" --===============4278047182649554750== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you want to try a real good single-plane-based simulator, try the Microprose F15 Strike Eagle III. Very cool! Instead of being used to train F15 pilots, this program is co-written by a team of pilots. In high-reality mode, they say it's as close as it can get. Runs under DOS on 625k, using 5 floppys only. If you don't like to bomb Bagdad or so but only want to look at instruments, try the Aerowinx 747-400. $$$$$ for 2 floppy, but it's worth it. Also, DOS only. Marco ----------------------- Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > Michael Merritt wrote: > > > > I found Jerry's statement humourous, though I do agree with MH: Flight > > Sim (I still have ver. 5.1) is a very good program. I've never upgrade > > to FS'98, since it is Windows-based, and I've never had good luck with > > Windows-based programs. I think that the DOS-based older versions are > > much better. I've enjoyed many hours of flying. Perhaps the post was > > off-topic, but I intended it as more "general-computing" related rather > > than MS-bashing. >=20 > That's what made the F16 fs from Holobyte Spectrum so stable. You had > to boot DOS with pharlap memory mangement. You weren't running windows > (not even 3.11) so you didn't have to worry about Windows crashing. I > don't remember my F16 DOS based fs ever crashing. Now, my copy of > Windows fs is another matter. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4278047182649554750==-- From gregt@nadel.com Wed Apr 14 18:13:59 1999 From: gregt@nadel.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:13:59 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904141619.JAA30026@www1.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7806347047650700345==" --===============7806347047650700345== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Karsten Johansson wrote: >=20 > For the clustering thing, I agree that their information is incorrect. >=20 > But Linux does take a long long time to boot if it is cold-rebooted. If > you hit the power switch on an NT box, it takes the same amount of time to > boot as it does if you didn't do that. And the file structure remains inta= ct, > save for files that may have been opened prior to the reboot. > I keep hearing this but unless I'm doing something wrong our NT boxes take just as long as Linux to reboot when they're shutdown improperly. Here NT always runs chkdsk in this case which takes just as long as fsck on same size partitions. =20 > Linux forces a file system check and has lots of things to fix when this=20 > occurs. On a large drive with lots of files, this takes a *really* long ti= me. >=20 Greg -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7806347047650700345==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Wed Apr 14 18:19:18 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:19:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3714DC26.9456247A@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2804611317363632924==" --===============2804611317363632924== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greg, I have a dual boot NT/Linux box that takes several times longer to boot into = NT than into Linux. Loggoing in and out are equally more snappy on Linux, as is just= about everything else such as opening applications. I just rebootted an NT server = hard and it _did not_ run chkdsk when it came back up, and it seemed to boot norma= lly without the extra file system varification we expiernece with Linux. Steve Greg Thomas wrote: > On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Karsten Johansson wrote: > > > > > For the clustering thing, I agree that their information is incorrect. > > > > But Linux does take a long long time to boot if it is cold-rebooted. If > > you hit the power switch on an NT box, it takes the same amount of time to > > boot as it does if you didn't do that. And the file structure remains in= tact, > > save for files that may have been opened prior to the reboot. > > > > I keep hearing this but unless I'm doing something wrong our NT boxes take > just as long as Linux to reboot when they're shutdown improperly. Here NT > always runs chkdsk in this case which takes just as long as fsck on same > size partitions. > > > Linux forces a file system check and has lots of things to fix when this > > occurs. On a large drive with lots of files, this takes a *really* long = time. > > > > Greg -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2804611317363632924==-- From gregt@nadel.com Wed Apr 14 18:19:39 1999 From: gregt@nadel.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Latest Mindcraft Linux bashing Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:19:39 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7464958106726414108==" --===============7464958106726414108== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable See = h= ttp://www.mindcraft.com/whitepapers/nts4rhlinux.html#mccert>. MS sponsored study shows NT beats Linux, 2.5x faster for file serving and 3.7x faster for web serving, on a Dell 4Way Xeon server. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7464958106726414108==-- From rimez@surfree.com Wed Apr 14 18:19:51 1999 From: rimez@surfree.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] kernel + sound problems? Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:19:51 -0400 Message-ID: <99041414260700.02933@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6769711025860217823==" --===============6769711025860217823== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was just checking my /var/log/messages file when I found a bunch of messages that look like this: Apr 14 14:15:07 rimez kernel: es1371: dma timed out?? Apr 14 14:15:22 rimez last message repeated 2 times I'm not really having any sound problems but I would like to know what's going on with this. Should I worry? How can I fix it? If you can just point me in t= he right direction I would be most appreciative. Oh yeah... I'm using a sound blaster PCI 64D (ensoniq) thanks, rimez -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6769711025860217823==-- From jljr@globalfrontiers.com Wed Apr 14 18:30:35 1999 From: jljr@globalfrontiers.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Xcmail and SuSE 6.0 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:30:35 +0000 Message-ID: <19990414222907320.AAA317@ns1.globalfrontiers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7618949488558779185==" --===============7618949488558779185== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having a lot of trouble compiling Xcmail. If someone else has successfully installed Xcmail in SuSE 6.0, please share your method. I may have the wrong version xclasses , or something like that, it compiles for a few minutes than gets an error and stops. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about programming to figure out what is wrong. thanks in advance... joe -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7618949488558779185==-- From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Wed Apr 14 18:32:04 1999 From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] [off topic] disk storage news Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:32:04 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8804089006183831076==" --===============8804089006183831076== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HOLE IN ONE Peter Vettiger and his team of researchers at IBM's micro and=20 nanomechanics group in Zurich are in the process of creating the=20 world's smallest data storage disks. With a certain number of=20 cantilevers, Vettiger's new product, called the Millipede, can=20 store more than 100 times more data on a polymer-coated disk=20 than today's magnetic hard disks can store. The Millipede can=20 read and write data at roughly 100 Mbps, and can store as much=20 as 3000 GB of data on one square centimeter. Such a microscopic mechanism may have a few problems, one being that an assembly=20 has not yet been built to fit into a real computer's disk drive. =20 Other problems relate to the long-term durability of the moving=20 parts, and to the fact that the polymer surface that contains the=20 data only moves in a straight line and has not yet been formed=20 into a disk. However, IBM says these problems should be solved=20 soon, and that it will not be too long before the product is=20 available on the market. =20 (New Scientist 03/27/99) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8804089006183831076==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Wed Apr 14 18:35:43 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:35:43 -0700 Message-ID: <199904141835.LAA09994@www1.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4385921606870290267==" --===============4385921606870290267== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greg Thomas wrote: >=20 > I keep hearing this but unless I'm doing something wrong our NT boxes take > just as long as Linux to reboot when they're shutdown improperly. Here NT > always runs chkdsk in this case which takes just as long as fsck on same > size partitions. Commonly this can be disabled under NT. Almost always a sudden reboot will c= ause=20 no damage to the NTFS or VFAT or DOS file systems. Linux on the other hand *= must*=20 be checked because a sudden reboot *does* cause damage and many things need t= o be=20 reset. Otherwise, yes. If you run chkdsk and fsck side by side, they both take a lo= ng=20 time. :) To me though, this differentiation in the article is nitpicking. The amount = of=20 downtime in a sudden reboot is negligable unless it is happening constantly. = If it=20 *is* happening often enough to affect your network, you probably need a UPS o= r=20 something, and not disabling chkdsk or fsck. Karsten ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4385921606870290267==-- From rimez@surfree.com Wed Apr 14 18:46:26 1999 From: rimez@surfree.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: kernel + sound problems? Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:46:26 -0400 Message-ID: <99041414491300.03011@rimez> In-Reply-To: <99041414260700.02933@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1034868834429257910==" --===============1034868834429257910== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, you wrote: > I was just checking my /var/log/messages file when I found a bunch of messa= ges > that look like this: > Apr 14 14:15:07 rimez kernel: es1371: dma timed out?? > Apr 14 14:15:22 rimez last message repeated 2 times >=20 > I'm not really having any sound problems but I would like to know what's go= ing > on with this. Should I worry? How can I fix it? If you can just point me in= the > right direction I would be most appreciative. > Oh yeah... I'm using a sound blaster PCI 64D (ensoniq) > thanks, > rimez I forgot to mention that I'm using Kernel 2.2.3 (suse build) I have found a patch for this but it's for kernel 2.1.127 Anyone know if there is a patch for 2.2.3? thanks, rimez -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1034868834429257910==-- From dwerts@pineknot.com Wed Apr 14 19:12:30 1999 From: dwerts@pineknot.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 installation Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:12:30 -0700 Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990414111410.007320c8@pineknot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3186175618545801418==" --===============3186175618545801418== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello to the group! I've tried to install 6.0 on my system. The problem I'm having is that the CD-ROM I have is not supported on the install diskette. I have an SoundBlaster 16, SB16 with the CD-ROM connected to it's CD-ROM port. During the installation of the CD-ROM driver selection there is a 'prompt' saying to "insert the modules disk". The problem with this is there is only ONE floppy disk included in the SuSE 6.0 package. Are there any user's out there that has run into this problem? If so, how did you resolve the problem? At this point I'm gonna stick with vs. 5.3. TIA, Don... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3186175618545801418==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Wed Apr 14 19:20:16 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Alien and RPM Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:20:16 +0100 Message-ID: <199904141920.UAA05227@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7215860580212978828==" --===============7215860580212978828== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I don't know if anyone has noticed but there is a small application=20 that came with 6.0 which is called Alien. This converts between the=20 rpm, tar.gz and .deb packages thus making it easy to get hold of any=20 software that can be used with SuSE software. I haven't tried to use because I get the impression that I need to=20 update the rpm package manager in my 6.0 system. The rpm package=20 manager that came with 6.0 is rpm-2.5.5-10. The package that is on=20 my Cheapbytes Red Hat 5.9 CD is rpm-2.92-10. I tried to upgrade the=20 package with Xrpm and got the following error message.... "Failed=20 dependancy check: failed dependancies: patch < 2.5 conflicts with=20 rpm-2.92-10". I could force the installation but I don't want to cause any=20 problems for myself. Does anyone have any experience with Alien and=20 the Debian/Slackware/Red Hat package managers and updating the rpm=20 package manager ? Thanks Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7215860580212978828==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Wed Apr 14 20:12:24 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] xdm Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:12:24 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37142504.9822CA6@hem.passagen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5103772379165345005==" --===============5103772379165345005== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, R. Johnels wrote: > press ctrl-alt-f1 and you will see the last screen of messages. > or open a xterm and type dmesg > that will give you some of the messages at boot, but not all. I do know this much. I was just wondering how to see the messages that X has written -- they have to go somewhere. However, I have since discovered the ~/.xsession-errors and ~/X.err files. Which makes it even better than it was before I started using xdm -- so I can sort out the X stuff from the programs' stuff. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5103772379165345005==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Wed Apr 14 20:24:10 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:24:10 +0200 Message-ID: <3714F96A.B1BBBBCE@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <3714DC26.9456247A@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4349860887912974934==" --===============4349860887912974934== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Steven T. Hatton" wrote: >=20 > Greg, >=20 > I have a dual boot NT/Linux box that takes several times longer to boot int= o NT than > into Linux. Loggoing in and out are equally more snappy on Linux, as is ju= st about > everything else such as opening applications. I just rebootted an NT serve= r hard > and it _did not_ run chkdsk when it came back up, and it seemed to boot nor= mally > without the extra file system varification we expiernece with Linux. >=20 > Steve >=20 yes, seen the same on one of our NT-Wait Stations. darn thing hangs itself on drag &drop operations (could be poor harware, memory?) and rebooted (always) without checking it ntfs partition. Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4349860887912974934==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Wed Apr 14 20:25:49 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Latest Mindcraft Linux bashing Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:25:49 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7185304939409027251==" --===============7185304939409027251== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Greg Thomas wrote: >=20 >=20 > See http://www.mindcraft.com/whitepapers/nts4rhlinux.html#mccert>. MS > sponsored study shows NT beats Linux, 2.5x faster for file serving and > 3.7x faster for web serving, on a Dell 4Way Xeon server. They apparently did the same thing for Netware. Notice that they only made 970Mb of RAM available for Linux, compared to the 4Gb for NT? And the fact that in the Samba comfiguration, they set widelinks to "no"? And that, like the Netware-bashing before it, this Linux-bashing was sponsored by everyone's favourite software company? ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7185304939409027251==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Wed Apr 14 20:27:22 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:27:22 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3714DC26.9456247A@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0516949450794815108==" --===============0516949450794815108== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Steven T. Hatton wrote: >=20 > Greg, >=20 > I have a dual boot NT/Linux box that takes several times longer to boot int= o NT than > into Linux. Loggoing in and out are equally more snappy on Linux, as is ju= st about > everything else such as opening applications. I just rebootted an NT serve= r hard > and it _did not_ run chkdsk when it came back up, and it seemed to boot nor= mally > without the extra file system varification we expiernece with Linux. So, in other words, the only reason NT boots faster after an improper shutdown is because it's braindead... ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0516949450794815108==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Wed Apr 14 20:33:31 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Latest Mindcraft Linux bashing Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:33:31 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6899602055920699822==" --===============6899602055920699822== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Greg Thomas wrote: >=20 >=20 > See http://www.mindcraft.com/whitepapers/nts4rhlinux.html#mccert>. MS > sponsored study shows NT beats Linux, 2.5x faster for file serving and > 3.7x faster for web serving, on a Dell 4Way Xeon server. They apparently did the same thing for Netware. Notice that they only made 970Mb of RAM available for Linux, compared to the 4Gb for NT? And the fact that in the Samba comfiguration, they set widelinks to "no"? And that, like the Netware-bashing before it, this Linux-bashing was sponsored by everyone's favourite software company? ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6899602055920699822==-- From mcdo148@ibm.net Wed Apr 14 21:30:18 1999 From: mcdo148@ibm.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] News: Microsoft Chief Sees Linux Having Limited Impact Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:30:18 -0400 Message-ID: <371508EA.D6F14526@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3842880157155743795==" --===============3842880157155743795== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone, http://dailyne= ws.yahoo.com/headlines/tc/story.html?s=3Dv/nm/19990414/tc/microsoft_linux_1.h= tml> Cheers, Dom -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3842880157155743795==-- From risch@tir.com Wed Apr 14 21:32:39 1999 From: risch@tir.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Symbolic links vs. hard link Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:32:39 -0400 Message-ID: <37150977.A5E37A32@tir.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4468484414501357173==" --===============4468484414501357173== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Hope I'm not duplicating someone else's response, but a hard link is a pointer to a file; a soft link is an indirect pointer to a file. A soft link can point to a non-existent file, while a hard link can not. Also, a soft link may point to any file regardless of file structure. All hard links to a file must be in the same file system. All hard links to a file have equal status, but this is not true for soft links. I believe that you coule remove the first hard link to a file having made several more.As long as you have one you can still access the file, but if you remove all hard links you lose the file. A good reference is Marl Sobell's "A Practical Guide to Linux." Regards, Bob Herbert Stocker HSH[1126] wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Michael Merritt wrote: >=20 > > > > Could a hard link also be referred to as a copy? I know it is not > > technically correct, but I've found it easier to use that to rationalize > > it to people with Windows backgrounds. Also, a soft link can be equated > > to a Windows shortcut -- you can delete the shortcut and the file is > > original file is not affected, but if you remove the original file, the > > shortcut is then broken... > > >=20 > May be, if you keep in mind, that the difference between a copy and a > hardlink is, that if you edit a copy of a file, you have two different > versions of the file on disk. But if you edit a hard link, also the > "original" is beeing altered. This is, since a hardlinked file exists > only once on the disk, but have two directory entries to get to the data. >=20 > You can consider a hard linked file as it beeing one file, but having two > names. Or, if the hard link is created in another directory, consider the > file as being in two places at the same time. >=20 > If you create a hard link - saying you use ln file.txt second.txt - > there is no difference between the directory entries "file.txt" and > "second.txt". Both point to the same piece of data. And nobody could see, > which was first. >=20 > What you said about soft links is correct. They can be compared to Windows > shortcuts. But the difference is, that soft links are something, the > operating system understands, and therefore every program works with it > and not only the windows explorer. And a soft link only contains the file > name of the target, but no icon info, or such things. >=20 > Hell >=20 > -- > hell (Herbert Stocker) > : > mailto:hell(a)stusta.mhn.de = \ Hell is also \ > http://hell.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> \ my NickName \ > goto:D->MUC->StuSta->HSH[1126] \ in RealLive. \=C3=97 > : >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4468484414501357173==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Wed Apr 14 22:35:03 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] httpd Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:35:03 -0500 Message-ID: <37151817.DBA6001B@navix.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5853174137486838085==" --===============5853174137486838085== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "B. Chapman" wrote: >=20 > Every time I boot, I get an error that httpd cannot determine my host > name. First, could someone please tell me what httpd would be used for, > and second, do I need to start it at boot? Do I need to use httpd if the > only network I connect to uses dhcp? (I'm a new user if you can't tell!) >=20 > Thanks Brian The httpd is the web server deamon. If you don't plan on using your Linux box as an internet web site then you can run YaST and turn that setting off. (You could find the setting in rc.config and set it to 'NO', but the next time you run YaST it would be turned back on.) Then use 'kill' to kill the hpptd deamon by running ps ax to see what its PID is, then issue "kill -9 ". JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5853174137486838085==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Wed Apr 14 22:56:27 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Relational database/contact manager Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:56:27 -0500 Message-ID: <37151D1B.9CCE57F5@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <000501be8693$47d5c8e0$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5138492548119365018==" --===============5138492548119365018== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Patrick Kirk wrote: >=20 > I have an Access application that consists of 9000 contacts in two thousand > companies and I have created a simple relational database with forms to > manage these contacts. >=20 > Is there a Linux equivalent of Access? >=20 > Patrick Kirk of Enterprise HR If you are running SuSE 6.0 then PostgreSQL-6.4 is probably already running. One of the packages on the SuSE CD is pg_iface and another is pg_access. Pg_access is a tcl package that looks and runs similar to, but not exactly nor as extensive as MS Access. It is very nice however. It's query design screen is almost an Access look-a-like.=20 Reports, views, scripts, queries, tables, etc. Really nice. Free.=20 PostgreSQL is a *very* nice database engine. It would have absolutely NO trouble with your 9Kb rows of contacts and 2Kb rows of companies, since it has been run with 200GB of data. It has a nice little console program called psql, which can be used to work with the db manually also. JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5138492548119365018==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Wed Apr 14 23:04:15 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sql for linux and can windows apps access thel Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:04:15 -0500 Message-ID: <37151EEF.BB7F1187@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990414105505.0104abb8@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2984839593486171101==" --===============2984839593486171101== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Samy Elashmawy wrote: >=20 > What do you use for the front end of your apps ?? >=20 > Also , you mentioned the tcl ? Can you give more ionfo ? > Can it be used to create a dtata base application ?? > What programing languege does it use ? Samy, If you are running SuSE then all you need is on the distro CDs. More than likely PostgreSQL is already installed (by default, unless you uninstalled it), so all you need to do is look for pg_iface and pgaccess and the other pg* database stuff. Install them, then create a desktop icon for them. PostgreSQL also includes a console program to manipulate the db engine called 'psql'. The package called 'pgaccess' is written in tcl and is very similar to, but not as extensive as MS Access. The queries tab display a designer window almost indentical to Access, whith the tables shown graphically and lines connecting the indexed fields.=20 *VERY* nice. It connects via socket# 5432 and uses TCP/IP if you use the -i switch. It is much more powerful than the other Xwindow interfact program to PostgreSQL called mpsql. But, play with them both. I know you will like pgaccess. The tcl language, using the 'wish' shell, is very powerful and easy to use. There are books available from amazon.com or O'Rielly that teach how to use it. >=20 > >> > > > >I would suggest PostgreSQL because of what mysql lacks. MySQL is only > >about 10 0.000000aster than PostgreSQL but the latter is more compliant to > >ANSI SQL92 standards. PostgreSQL offers classes, inheritance, types, > >functions, contraints, triggers, rules and transaction integrity. The > >last feature is one that MySQL will never have. PostgreSQL comes with > >pgaccess, a tcl application also available for windows that looks and > >runs similar to MSAccess, but not as extensive is MSAccess. PostgreSQL > >is free (you can purchase support), MySQL costs if you are selling it or > >selling a product which includes it (or you run it on Win95 or NT), > >although the client code is GPL. MySQL won't do sub-selects, selects > >into tables, transactions, triggers, foreign keys (but you get a > >philosophical reason why you should not use foreign keys) and views. > >"GROUP BY" on text fields only work if they are fixed length. ALTER > >TABLE is used for creating and dropping indicies. GRANT is sldo > >non-functional, MySQL has it's own non-standard security features. I > >used MySQL and liked it. I found PostgreSQL more similar to the > >commerical SQL engines I have used and found MySQL more limiting. I > >switched from MySQL to PostgreSQL and am glad I did. I am looking > >forward to version 6.5: http://postgresql.nextpath.com/> which will > >feature multi-version concurency control, a locking scheme which allows > >reading of locked rows without access errors. > > > >-- > > > >JLK > >Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is > >right. > > > > --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2984839593486171101==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Wed Apr 14 23:13:55 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: RV: [SuSE Linux] Can't use de kppp Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:13:55 -0500 Message-ID: <37152133.5003DC11@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <00d401be868b$1d546980$0cc8c8c8@mariano> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3142430275119472701==" --===============3142430275119472701== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Mariano Striani wrote: >=20 >=20 > Sorry but in my kde I dont have any Internet menu, maybe I have an > older kde, my SuSE is 5.1 with kernel 2.2.3 and yast 0.99 somthing KDE is not a SuSE issue. The menu I was refering to is present on all version of KDE since .99beta. If you can't find the internet menu then go out to the kde.org site and down load the new 1.1 files, delete the old version of kde from your installation and install the new verson if kde. The Kppp program will be on that version for sure. --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3142430275119472701==-- From mcdo148@ibm.net Wed Apr 14 23:22:59 1999 From: mcdo148@ibm.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 installation Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:22:59 -0400 Message-ID: <37152353.16B7E3BB@ibm.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990414111410.007320c8@pineknot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1839401310969494572==" --===============1839401310969494572== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Don, Actually I had that exact problem on our old computer. Waht you need to do is= to create a modules floppy disk so SuSE can play with your soundblaster drive. How do you do that? Well, OK if you also have windows on your machine here is how, this is the wa= y I did it at least and it worked: In windows click onthe My computer thing and with the SuSE 6 number one CD inserted double click on the cdrom icon. Open the Dos Utils directory, copy the directory called rawrite to your hard drive. Now go up a directory level on the CD, you should see a directory called Disk= s, open that directory and copy the file called Modules to the rawrite directory you just put on your hard disk. Ok, open up the directory called rawrite on your hard disk. Double click Rawrite3.com It asks you for the source file name, type modules hit enter Choose floppy drive a [first] or b [second floppy drive] insert blank disk and hit enter After a minute or so, voila a modules disk. Insert that when SuSE 6 wants a modules disk and choose soundblaster compatible. Now, is it a fairly new soundblaster drive? I ask because, I couldn't get SuS= E 6 to instal over cd with our old, very old soundblaster 16. I caled tech support and the person I spoke with said that it was really rare but they had encountered a couple of old drives that wouldn't play with 6. Anyways, just so you know... I hope this helped, this is my first attempt at fielding a question... Cheers! Dom -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1839401310969494572==-- From bfootdav@bellsouth.net Wed Apr 14 23:29:18 1999 From: bfootdav@bellsouth.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Chameleon Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:29:18 -0400 Message-ID: <371524CE.999E6BEC@bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <000401be8685$b2705070$7b70c0d8@ob800ct> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4788085782318618146==" --===============4788085782318618146== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Stanley C. Rogacki" wrote: >=20 > There's a program that makes the "X" cursor into the SuSE chameleon icon. > If I've loaded it from the CD-ROM, where's it located and what's the command > to make it happen? > Thanks! >=20 /usr/X11R6/bin/do_chameleon or of course just do_chameleon (I have it in my autostart folder in KDE so it starts up whenever I start KDE) I had to add a symbolic link to get it to point to the correct location (always meant to fix that particular bug in the program, but never got around to it. And this workaround works). I don't remember now where to find it, but if you can't find it let me know and I'll look for it also. Btw, I think its kind of a cool little program/icon. David Bellows -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4788085782318618146==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Wed Apr 14 23:29:50 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Web and File Server Comparison: Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 and Red Hat Linux 5.2 Updated Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:29:50 -0400 Message-ID: <371524EE.30AD97A3@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1924928512232567055==" --===============1924928512232567055== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This site was listed in the Sunbelt newsletter....a VERY pro-MickySoft firm. = I read the "tests," and if the results weren't so absurd, they'd be funny. I d= id respond to Mindcraft....not that it will do any good, because it's obvious th= ey have an agenda. The UNfortunate part is that those who have no experience wi= th Linux, and are foolish enough to believe all the FUD that's now appearing, (since Bill Gates has VERY MUCH taken notice of the reduced sales of NT), won= 't know that all they're reading is no more than pure bovine excrement. Fred http://www.mindcraf= t.com/whitepapers/nts4rhlinux.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1924928512232567055==-- From mperry@basin.com Wed Apr 14 23:43:22 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Xcmail and SuSE 6.0 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:43:22 -0700 Message-ID: <199904142343.QAA00297@speedy.linuxcare.com> In-Reply-To: <19990414222907320.AAA317@ns1.globalfrontiers.com@Client569> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4273055445959154052==" --===============4273055445959154052== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14 Apr, joe lerch wrote: >=20 > I am having a lot of trouble compiling Xcmail. If someone else > has successfully installed Xcmail in SuSE 6.0, please share your > method. I may have the wrong version xclasses , or something > like that, it compiles for a few minutes than gets an error > and stops. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about programming > to figure out what is wrong. >=20 > thanks in advance... >=20 >=20 > joe >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Can you copy and paste the compile error to this group? Just as a hunch, are the x devel libs installed on your system? --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com -------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4273055445959154052==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Wed Apr 14 23:58:26 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] `Sorcerer's apprentice' bug strikes Outlook Express 5 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:58:26 -0400 Message-ID: <37152BA2.CD129293@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1072644200813877071==" --===============1072644200813877071== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.msnbc.com/news/258902.asp> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1072644200813877071==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Thu Apr 15 00:53:06 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] WTF!!!! Yahoo article. Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:53:06 -0500 Message-ID: <37153872.6DDC58AD@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2370188235401227457==" --===============2370188235401227457== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, This is just so much FUD... "Gates said, for example, that there were five different windowing systems that run on Linux." I was under the impression from years of use that there was X and several Windows Managers..I think we should get a letter together and get not only the SuSE mailing list, but all Unix mailing lists we can think of to join and set the record straight once and for all..and not just 100 people, but as many as we can.. It's get more the annoying now..and this crap has lost it's amusement long ago.... laters, --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2370188235401227457==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 15 02:03:45 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] setting enviroment Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:03:45 +0200 Message-ID: <37154901.F94B6EF@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8418052994542012577==" --===============8418052994542012577== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Ian M. Moore" wrote: >=20 > I'm setting the enviroment so I can install a program. > However I'm having trouble editing bashrc. > I have found bashrc files in /etc/skel and /usr/lib. > I picked the one in etc since most config files are there. > I added the lines I needed but it won't save. Perhabs you are not permitted to edit files in /etc. BTW, why use bashrc? There is a /etc/profile. You can also create .bashrc or .profile in your home=20 directory ($HOME). Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8418052994542012577==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 15 02:07:20 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Suse 6.0 & Kernel 2.2.5 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:07:20 +0200 Message-ID: <371549D8.40BF6E60@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0622897161969645576==" --===============0622897161969645576== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mmoser(a)sairgroup.com wrote: >=20 > Have one of you all , ever installed the 2.2.5 kernel? I download it from > suseftp the lx_update and other update rpms and install it, but during > compilation of zImage > it stops errors in irda cleanup etc..... >=20 > have you installed any additional updates to success the compilation of 2.2= .5 > Kernel. I would be happy to hear bout your success stories No problems here. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0622897161969645576==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 15 02:16:08 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WTF!!!! Yahoo article. Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:16:08 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37153872.6DDC58AD@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1583989470447206011==" --===============1583989470447206011== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Ben Rosenberg wrote: > I was under the impression from years of use that there was X and > several Windows Managers. Well, you're wrong. There have been many other windowing systems in the past, most of which are dead. Today, there are 3 that I know of: MGR, Berlin (I know nothing about this one), and The Y Windowing System (I don't know if there have been any releases of this one yet). ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1583989470447206011==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Thu Apr 15 02:30:02 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WTF!!!! Yahoo article. Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:30:02 -0500 Message-ID: <37154F2A.7ADC4129@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1940866229328322953==" --===============1940866229328322953== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I was under the impression that on 1 was really in use now ...I don't exactly care about what WAS in use or COULD be in use..or MIGHT be used..I do know that the default for " most " systems is X. *shrug* oh well..never mind.. =20 > Well, you're wrong. There have been many other windowing systems in the > past, most of which are dead. Today, there are 3 that I know of: MGR, > Berlin (I know nothing about this one), and The Y Windowing System (I > don't know if there have been any releases of this one yet). >=20 > ------------------------------------------------ > Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com > ------------------------------------------------ > Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at > http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.h= tml> > ------------------------------------------------ --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1940866229328322953==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 15 02:35:19 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WTF!!!! Yahoo article. Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:35:19 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37154F2A.7ADC4129@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4296890979512239478==" --===============4296890979512239478== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Ben Rosenberg wrote: > Well, I was under the impression that on 1 was really in use now ...I > don't exactly care about what WAS in use or COULD be in use..or MIGHT be > used..I do know that the default for " most " systems is X. Ah. Well, you're quite right there.. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ > > Well, you're wrong. There have been many other windowing systems in the > > past, most of which are dead. Today, there are 3 that I know of: MGR, > > Berlin (I know nothing about this one), and The Y Windowing System (I > > don't know if there have been any releases of this one yet). -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4296890979512239478==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Thu Apr 15 02:53:40 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] German division of Microsoft protests "Where do you want to go tomorrow" slogan Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:53:40 -0400 Message-ID: <371554B4.D2E90EF6@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3788207734898800670==" --===============3788207734898800670== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You won't believe this one folks. Fred ______________________ http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-04/lw-04-german.h= tml?0414> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3788207734898800670==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Thu Apr 15 03:48:28 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Gates calls Linux impact 'fairly limited' Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:48:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3715618C.EB1EE0DD@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7509584791765947355==" --===============7509584791765947355== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ya really should read this one! If Gates is quiet about other software, he normally isn't too worried about it. Now, he's talking, and he's FUDing...big time, and he's doing all he can to get a few "flakes" in the industry to rig a test showing NT is better. Amazing......he's still fighting with the DOJ, and HAS to know that if he goes back to court next month without a settlement with the DOJ, Jackson is going to come down VERY hard on MS, and he's pulling all these stunts. Anyway, Linux IS "getting" to him....no doubt about that. Fred htt= p://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2241918,00.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7509584791765947355==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Thu Apr 15 03:57:47 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Key executives plan to leave Netscape Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:57:47 -0400 Message-ID: <371563BB.6D11652@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2233883899399397560==" --===============2233883899399397560== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What's happening, is what some of us were afraid of. Fred ______________________ htt= p://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2241700,00.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2233883899399397560==-- From source@technologist.com Thu Apr 15 04:25:37 1999 From: source@technologist.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] printing problems Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:25:37 -0700 Message-ID: <37156A41.13F01414@technologist.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0007829971039355360==" --===============0007829971039355360== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, I am using suse 6.0, kernel 2.2.5, one parallel port, award bios, epson stylus color 400, and a zip plus. I have parport, parport_probe, parport_pc, lp, and imm all as modules. Apsfilter is configured for /dev/lp0 and driver stcolor. The problem is that nothing works right. Using cat foo > /dev/lp0 or lpr foo will start the printer, but it will only print in the middle of the page and go on for over 10 pages until I stop it without putting any ink onto the paper. =20 I have recently upgraded my computer, but I kept the bios settings to 0x378 and ESC/EPP, which used to make the printer /dev/lp1, but right now it is /dev/lp0. With redhat 5.2, I never had any problems and only had to do insmod lp or insmod imm, but that was kernel 2.0.36. The zip drive works fine, but I need the printer to print ink across the entire page. Also, after I have done modprobe lp, all of the parport modules are loaded too, but I can't unload any of them without rebooting. I'm guessing that the problem is with the device or the printing language, but I never had this problem with redhat or *******95. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0007829971039355360==-- From mperry@basin.com Thu Apr 15 05:13:09 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] gnome current rpms at ftp.suse.com Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:13:09 -0700 Message-ID: <199904150513.WAA11412@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2379152341004743686==" --===============2379152341004743686== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey SuSE!! What are the 1.0.x level rpm's I see at the ftp site? I see a lot of relatively recent rpm files for gnome but unfortunately these do not play with well with the ones that Jan was doing... :(. Are these rpm packages that come with suse 6.1 or will we begin to see rpm releases of these types of programs occuring more frequently? I am hoping that SuSE sees that maintaining rpm packages for the newer environments like gnome bode well for all of us. In any case, many thanks for this recent addition to the ftp site. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2379152341004743686==-- From deem@wdm.com Thu Apr 15 05:18:54 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Chameleon (fwd) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:18:54 -0800 Message-ID: <199904150518.VAA01996@wdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5309496248382468875==" --===============5309496248382468875== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Somebody please post where on the CD's this app is ? >>>>> Forwarded message from "Stanley C. Rogacki" There's a program that makes the "X" cursor into the SuSE chameleon icon. If I've loaded it from the CD-ROM, where's it located and what's the command to make it happen? Thanks! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5309496248382468875==-- From robertc@mindspring.com Thu Apr 15 05:26:05 1999 From: robertc@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sql for linux and can windows apps access thel Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:26:05 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37151EEF.BB7F1187@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5481979837760715137==" --===============5481979837760715137== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have just installed PostgreSQL from the distribution CDs. However I don't find the commands below. Do I need to run them from a particular directory? Robert > From: Jerry Lynn Kreps , on 4/14/99 6:04 PM: > =20 > If you are running SuSE then all you need is on the distro CDs. More > than likely PostgreSQL is already installed (by default, unless you > uninstalled it), so all you need to do is look for pg_iface and pgaccess > and the other pg* database stuff. Install them, then create a desktop > icon for them. PostgreSQL also includes a console program to manipulate > the db engine called 'psql'. The package called 'pgaccess' is written > in tcl and is very similar to, but not as extensive as MS Access. The > queries tab display a designer window almost indentical to Access, whith > the tables shown graphically and lines connecting the indexed fields.=20 > *VERY* nice. It connects via socket# 5432 and uses TCP/IP if you use > the -i switch. It is much more powerful than the other Xwindow > interfact program to PostgreSQL called mpsql. But, play with them > both. I know you will like pgaccess. > =20 > The tcl language, using the 'wish' shell, is very powerful and easy to > use. There are books available from amazon.com or O'Rielly that teach > how to use it. > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5481979837760715137==-- From colWilson@bigfoot.com Thu Apr 15 06:07:34 1999 From: colWilson@bigfoot.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Xcmail and SuSE 6.0 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:07:34 +0200 Message-ID: <199904150607.IAA09165@server.wilson.net> In-Reply-To: <199904142343.QAA00297@speedy.linuxcare.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1429738485015582058==" --===============1429738485015582058== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Go to the xc-mail site and get the version without glibc eg XCmail-0.99.7.bin.linux.tar.gz This works fine. ---Reply to mail from Michael Perry about [SuSE Linux] Xcmail and SuSE 6.0 >=20 > On 14 Apr, joe lerch wrote: >>=20 >> I am having a lot of trouble compiling Xcmail. If someone else >> has successfully installed Xcmail in SuSE 6.0, please share your >> method. I may have the wrong version xclasses , or something >> like that, it compiles for a few minutes than gets an error >> and stops. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about programming >> to figure out what is wrong. >>=20 >> thanks in advance... >>=20 >>=20 >> joe >>=20 >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >> Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the >> archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 > Can you copy and paste the compile error to this group? Just as a > hunch, are the x devel libs installed on your system? > --=20 > Michael E. Perry > mperry(a)basin.com > -------------------- >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 >=20 ---End reply --=20 Col Wilson -o) 41372 Niederkruechten-Elmpt /\\ Germany _\_v The penguins are coming... the penguins are coming... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1429738485015582058==-- From A.Crowe@OPENMAIL1.TSEA-E.sukepabe.simis.com Thu Apr 15 07:07:33 1999 From: A.Crowe@OPENMAIL1.TSEA-E.sukepabe.simis.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] NT Boot loader Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:07:33 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] NT Boot loader> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8817367518893766479==" --===============8817367518893766479== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Patrick, I operate a similar system to the one you want - several OSes all booting off the NT boot loader. I still have LILO installed on the Linux partition, however... The steps I use are as follows (substitute in hdxx and /mnt/DOS for whatever is appropriate to your PC for the bootable partition and mount point for the DOS partition): 1. Run lilo at the command prompt, to update the boot sector on the =20 Linux partition. 2. Mount the drive you are using to boot everything off (usually =20 /dev/hda1). Ideally it should be a FAT16 partition. 3. As root, type the command dd if=3D/dev/hdxx of=3D/mnt/dos/bootsect.lnx bs=3D512 count=3D1 4. Remove the read-only flag from /mnt/dos/boot.ini, and add an entry in the [Operating Systems] section that reads something like c:\bootsect.lnx =3D "Linux" 5. Close and save boot.ini and reboot the PC. Later, Alan. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8817367518893766479==-- From alex@daniloff.com Thu Apr 15 07:26:00 1999 From: alex@daniloff.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] E-mail server with GUI for painless configuration Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:26:00 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8579801915925699868==" --===============8579801915925699868== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello SuSE folks! Does somebody know if there any a good free GPLed E-mail server for Linux with GUI for painless configuration and ability for users to reach their mail boxes over Internet with any browser? Thanks in advance Alex -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8579801915925699868==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Thu Apr 15 07:59:36 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Navy using MSFltSim to train pilots Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:59:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000701be8715$e77d3cc0$1900000a@p25> In-Reply-To: <3714D9B5.6296@inter.NL.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3472969201099344270==" --===============3472969201099344270== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now all we need is a Albanian refugee silulator and we'll be ready for Top Gun! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of Marco van Oostende > Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 1999 19:09 > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Navy using MSFltSim to train pilots > > > > If you want to try a real good single-plane-based simulator, try the > Microprose F15 Strike Eagle III. Very cool! Instead of being used to > train > F15 pilots, this program is co-written by a team of pilots. In > high-reality > mode, they say it's as close as it can get. Runs under DOS on 625k, > using > 5 floppys only. > If you don't like to bomb Bagdad or so but only want to look at > instruments, try the Aerowinx 747-400. $$$$$ for 2 floppy, but it's > worth > it. Also, DOS only. > > Marco > > ----------------------- > > Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > > > > Michael Merritt wrote: > > > > > > I found Jerry's statement humourous, though I do agree with > MH: Flight > > > Sim (I still have ver. 5.1) is a very good program. I've > never upgrade > > > to FS'98, since it is Windows-based, and I've never had good luck with > > > Windows-based programs. I think that the DOS-based older versions are > > > much better. I've enjoyed many hours of flying. Perhaps the post was > > > off-topic, but I intended it as more "general-computing" > related rather > > > than MS-bashing. > > > > That's what made the F16 fs from Holobyte Spectrum so stable. You had > > to boot DOS with pharlap memory mangement. You weren't running windows > > (not even 3.11) so you didn't have to worry about Windows crashing. I > > don't remember my F16 DOS based fs ever crashing. Now, my copy of > > Windows fs is another matter. > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3472969201099344270==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Thu Apr 15 08:03:37 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Latest Mindcraft Linux bashing Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:03:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000801be8716$77b39280$1900000a@p25> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0460608509545949879==" --===============0460608509545949879== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Linux on Intel appears limited to 960 MB of physical RAM by design. If NT with 4 Gigs runs better, then we must wait for the 64 bit version. http://www= .lwn.net/> has an overview on how the playing field was not level. It was a vanilla Linux setup but a carefully tweaked NT setup with some "use at own risk" goodies from the M$ ftp site. Patrick > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of Ewan Dunbar > Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 1999 21:26 > To: Greg Thomas > Cc: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com; redhat-list(a)redhat.com > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Latest Mindcraft Linux bashing > > > > On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Greg Thomas wrote: > > > > > > > See http://www.mindcraft.com/whitepapers/nts4rhlinux.html#mccert>. MS > > sponsored study shows NT beats Linux, 2.5x faster for file serving and > > 3.7x faster for web serving, on a Dell 4Way Xeon server. > > They apparently did the same thing for Netware. Notice that they only made > 970Mb of RAM available for Linux, compared to the 4Gb for NT? And the fact > that in the Samba comfiguration, they set widelinks to "no"? And that, > like the Netware-bashing before it, this Linux-bashing was sponsored by > everyone's favourite software company? > > ------------------------------------------------ > Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com > ------------------------------------------------ > Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at > http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.h= tml> > ------------------------------------------------ > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0460608509545949879==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Thu Apr 15 08:05:43 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Relational database/contact manager Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:05:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000901be8716$c23695a0$1900000a@p25> In-Reply-To: <37151D1B.9CCE57F5@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4017926343037316697==" --===============4017926343037316697== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks. > -----Original Message----- > From: jerry(a)iac20.navix.net [mailto:jerry(a)iac20.navix.net]On Behalf Of > Jerry Lynn Kreps > Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 1999 23:56 > To: pkirk(a)enterprise-hr.com > Cc: Suse-Linux-E > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Relational database/contact manager >=20 >=20 > Patrick Kirk wrote: > >=20 > > I have an Access application that consists of 9000 contacts in=20 > two thousand > > companies and I have created a simple relational database with forms to > > manage these contacts. > >=20 > > Is there a Linux equivalent of Access? > >=20 > > Patrick Kirk of Enterprise HR >=20 > If you are running SuSE 6.0 then PostgreSQL-6.4 is probably already > running. One of the packages on the SuSE CD is pg_iface and another is > pg_access. Pg_access is a tcl package that looks and runs similar to, > but not exactly nor as extensive as MS Access. It is very nice > however. It's query design screen is almost an Access look-a-like.=20 > Reports, views, scripts, queries, tables, etc. Really nice. Free.=20 > PostgreSQL is a *very* nice database engine. It would have absolutely > NO trouble with your 9Kb rows of contacts and 2Kb rows of companies, > since it has been run with 200GB of data. It has a nice little console > program called psql, which can be used to work with the db manually > also. >=20 > JLK > Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is > right. >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4017926343037316697==-- From Rene.Wintjens@pasteur-lille.fr Thu Apr 15 08:09:26 1999 From: Rene.Wintjens@pasteur-lille.fr To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] rasmol in 16 bit color Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:09:26 +0200 Message-ID: <99041510485100.11920@adelaide> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8804620218045669101==" --===============8804620218045669101== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anybody know how to run Rasmol program (a molecular graphics visualisation tool) for an X display running at 16bpp (or more) ? The current Rasmol version of SuSE distribution (5.3) run only at 8bpp. Moreover, I dont able to generate a new 16bpp Rasmol from sources. Does anybo= dy know how to do it ? Thanks ################################## # Rene Wintjens # # Laboratoire de RMN # # CNRS UMR - 8525 # # IBL, Institut Pasteur de Lille # # 1, rue du Professeur Calmette # # 59021 Lille cedex - FRANCE # # Tel : + 33 3 20 87 12 30 # # Fax : + 33 3 20 87 12 33 # ################################## -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8804620218045669101==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Thu Apr 15 08:17:01 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Relational database/contact manager Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:17:01 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01be8718$56bc52e0$1900000a@p25> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Relational database/contact manager> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5094808436176303795==" --===============5094808436176303795== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the suggestion Larry. If we look at the list of databases for Linux, which is the easiest to set up for someone who doesn't know sql and is unlikely to learn it? Has anyone set up one of these to work with a web browser as the front end? I suppose what I'm looking for here is a set of sample applications. If that's not available, then I'm looking for a GUI based interface with a scripting language. > MySQL > mSQL > Postgres > Solid > Yard > Oracle > Informix > Sybase All help appreciated! Patrick -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5094808436176303795==-- From kukuk@suse.de Thu Apr 15 08:24:38 1999 From: kukuk@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:24:38 +0200 Message-ID: <19990415102437.A13092@allen.suse.de> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] glibc2.1 ? (wish list for 6.x :-)> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6984764934896245698==" --===============6984764934896245698== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, On Thu, Apr 15, Ralph Clark wrote: > Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > >=20 > > I hope SuSE Linux 6.2 will work with glibc 2.1. > >=20 >=20 > This is very disappointing. I skipped SuSE 6.0 because it was (IMO) neither > stable enough nor up-to-date enough to justify upgrading. Well, I've just > ordered 6.1 from SuSE and it now seems they are saying it won't even support > glibc2.1 applications? >=20 > I can't see any justification for that. Thorsten is saying that it is diffi= cult, > but as we all know it is easy in principle to support an application requir= ing a > non-standard library version. If the different versions can't coexist in the > main library directories due to namespace pollution, the minority aplicatio= ns > can still name the required library directory in the environment variable > LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Non-open software binaries like Communicator and Applixware > should be supported in that way if necessary (as Oracle and Star Office are You are wrong. glibc 2.0 and glibc 2.1 could not coexist in this way. It is not possible. glibc 2.0 and glibc 2.1 uses the same loader: /lib/ld-linux.so.= 2. If you put a glibc 2.0 loader in /lib, glibc 2.1 will not work and vice versa. And what does you mean with Oracle and Star Office do it already ? Do you mean the StarOffice glibc2, which could be installed in the Office5.0/lib director= y ? StarDivision warns to do this, because of the problems with ld-linux.so.2. Th= ey tell you, that this could break all other applications except StarOffice. > already). But SuSE should provide us with a glibc 2.1 development environme= nt at > least as an option that can be installed easily without breaking other > applications. SuSE, you do want developers using your system don't you? I think you miss the point. If it would be possible to install a glibc 2.1 on SuSE Linux 6.1, without breaking other applications, we had used glibc 2.1. It is not possible. So how should we do that ? And why do you wish to develop with glibc 2.1 ? If you develop with glibc 2.0, your programs runs on current, stable Debian and RedHat versions.=20 And what do you wish to say to database developer ? Sorry, it's fine you have Oracle for Linux, but it is a glibc 2.0 version, so you couldn't use the Oracle libraries for your programs, because static glibc 2.0 libraries are not binary compatible with glibc 2.1 ? >=20 > BTW, it's not enough to say that we can perform this conversion ourselves i= f we > want. Most people who want to write programs on Linux are relative newbies = and > would encounter more problems than they could cope with in such an exercise. No, if they develop with glibc 2.0, their programs don't run on other Linux=20 distributions. Caldera 2.2 and RedHat 6.0 are not published yet. The current Debian uses glibc 2.0. Slackware uses libc5 ? > That's what we buy distributions for. Hell, I'm not exactly a newbie but I'd > still balk at converting a whole distribution all by myself. Those who've t= ried > it have found it very difficult.=20 >=20 > I wonder how many SuSE users are starting to get fed up waiting for a > distribution that's up to date. At the rate SuSE produces updates I suppose > you'll get 6.2 out before Red Hat 6.0 is released. But this apparent good n= ews > conceals an unpleasant side effect. Both SuSE and Red Hat users are provided > with package updates while the distro version they are using is still curre= nt. > For Red Hat users, that's about a year. But for SuSE users it's only about = 3-4 > months. >=20 > Yes folks, buy SuSE and watch your distribution go from already out-of-date= to > obsolete and completely unsupported within 6 months... >=20 > If I'm being unfair then flame away. I'm always ready to be educated. If no= t, > make your voice heard. SuSE must see more pressure from users if they are e= ver > to learn what we want from them. We know what most of our Users want: A stable Desktop system with a working Office program and other commercial applications. And the most developer wish a system, where they could make binaries for all Linux platforms, not only this few who supports glibc 2.1. Thorsten --=20 Thorsten Kukuk http://www.suse.de/~kukuk/> kukuk(a)sus= e.de SuSE GmbH Schanzaeckerstr. 10 90443 Nuernberg Linux is like a Vorlon. It is incredibly powerful, gives terse, cryptic answers and has a lot of things going on in the background. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6984764934896245698==-- From paspartu@uni.net Thu Apr 15 08:42:33 1999 From: paspartu@uni.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Relational database/contact manager Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:42:33 +0200 Message-ID: <99041510450200.00252@kamikazen> In-Reply-To: <000a01be8718$56bc52e0$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2875481848526600662==" --===============2875481848526600662== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On gio, 15 apr 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion Larry. >=20 > If we look at the list of databases for Linux, which is the easiest to set > up for someone who doesn't know sql and is unlikely to learn it? >=20 > Has anyone set up one of these to work with a web browser as the front end? >=20 > I suppose what I'm looking for here is a set of sample applications. If > that's not available, then I'm looking for a GUI based interface with a > scripting language. >=20 > > MySQL + PHP > > mSQL +PHP you can see how they work at http://www.prisma.rm.cnr.it> Ciao, Maurizio -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2875481848526600662==-- From TXDELBAE@ctrl.co.uk Thu Apr 15 09:08:44 1999 From: TXDELBAE@ctrl.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Printing Problems Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:08:44 +0100 Message-ID: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B9A88@ctrl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9215483537912375965==" --===============9215483537912375965== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am running SuSE 6.0, 2.0.34, kernel, and have set up my printer under YAST (Epson Stylus 640) to use the stylus colour settings. Nothing will print at all. But I can cat test.txt > /dev/lp1, and the text file is printed. Got any ideas, as I getting a bit fed up now. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9215483537912375965==-- From grimmer@suse.de Thu Apr 15 09:09:07 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Chameleon Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:09:07 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000401be8685$b2705070$7b70c0d8@ob800ct> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0330465276142512900==" --===============0330465276142512900== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Stanley C. Rogacki wrote: > There's a program that makes the "X" cursor into the SuSE chameleon > icon. If I've loaded it from the CD-ROM, where's it located and what's > the command to make it happen? The package is called "susecurs" and is located in Series "xap" (X Applications). It contains a Script called "do_chameleon", which will convert the X cursor. Unfortunately my version has a little bug, it connot find the necessary pixmaps. You may have to change the pixmap path in /usr/X11R6/bin/do_chameleon from /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps to /usr/X11R6/include/X11... Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0330465276142512900==-- From adairb@it.postoffice.co.uk Thu Apr 15 09:29:48 1999 From: adairb@it.postoffice.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] wvdial Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:29:48 +0100 Message-ID: <199904150934.KAA15661@igateway.postoffice.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8054627714256243389==" --===============8054627714256243389== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm loading wvdial ver 1.2 on my system and rpm states I need libc++2.8.a (this name is from memory). A find on my installation reveals libc++2.7.a and libc++2.9.a so the question(s) are... 1) are the libraries upward compatible? i.e. will 2.9 do as 2.8 if I create a link? 2) if not where do I get 2.8 from? would it be on the cds of Suse 5.3? ftp site? Any thoughts on how I would look for such a specific part of the linux system would be useful. The yast packet search on 5.3 does not work. This all arises because I got caught by a problem I've fixed before (and forgotten how) namely kppp _slowly_ initialising the modem (~8 bytes at a time) and then dialing and then ringing off before finishing modem/modem negotiation. Total time is probably about 4-5mins. When I run the kppp query modem ATI sequence the dialog claims the modem has timed out half way through testing i.e. it does ATI1, ATI2 ATI3 and then stops before finishing. I'm guessing it's a problem with multiple drivers on one serial port? If anyone knows the cure for this as well / instead I'd be delighted. TIA Bill -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8054627714256243389==-- From senthil@easi.soft.net Thu Apr 15 10:11:03 1999 From: senthil@easi.soft.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sql for linux and can windows apps access thel Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:41:03 +0530 Message-ID: <3715BB37.613AE652@easi.soft.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7298733878994789088==" --===============7298733878994789088== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I am working with suse linux5.2 and i want to load jdk1.2 and i searched www.blackdown.org and i was not able to successfully load the jdk available there. I am urgently in need of working with swing and servlets. Please let me where i can look for a working version of jdk1.2 my requirement. thanks in advance, with regards, senthil vel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7298733878994789088==-- From oarolsen@online.no Thu Apr 15 11:16:08 1999 From: oarolsen@online.no To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Printing Problems Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:16:08 +0200 Message-ID: <99041513244500.03135@knut> In-Reply-To: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B9A88@ctrl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7534966832086639299==" --===============7534966832086639299== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, you wrote: >Hi, > >I am running SuSE 6.0, 2.0.34, kernel, and have set up my printer under YAST >(Epson Stylus 640) to use the stylus colour settings. > >Nothing will print at all. > >But I can cat test.txt > /dev/lp1, and the text file is printed. I had the same problem after upgrading to 6.0/2.0.34. (I have a HP printer. ) The printer deamon converted files into postscript (/tmp/aps_out* files), but did not forward them to ghostscript (or from ghostscript to the printer). I have later installed kernel 2.2.3, but no change. Today I deinstalled a2ps aps and all ghostscript files and reinstalled a2ps, aps, ghostscript and enscript. This did the trick, I can print, now using kernel 2.2.3 and /dev/lp0.=20 Regards O A Olsen -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7534966832086639299==-- From kester@cwcom.net Thu Apr 15 11:25:58 1999 From: kester@cwcom.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SUSE 6.0/HP550 printing problem Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:25:58 +0100 Message-ID: <016c01be8757$845dd900$2b0d1280@kester> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SUSE 6.0/HP550 printing problem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4994638868150338927==" --===============4994638868150338927== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wish I could help you with your printer, but I can sympathise with the below...! :-) k. :Hoping someone can shed some light on this for me, before I have to take :any more flak from the wife (unfortunately she's a die-hard Windows :fan). : :Thanks. : :-- :Martin DRAKE Tel. +352 33.77.70 :Geophysicist Fax +352 33.95.70 :--------------------------------------------- :European Geophysical Services sa :50 rue des Pr=C3=A9s, L-7333 Steinsel, LUXEMBOURG :http://www.eg= s.lu> :--------------------------------------------- : :-- :To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with :this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e :Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the :archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4994638868150338927==-- From bfootdav@bellsouth.net Thu Apr 15 12:17:12 1999 From: bfootdav@bellsouth.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Chameleon (fwd) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:17:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3715D8C8.DEABC2D0@bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <199904150518.VAA01996@wdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5627425802704990962==" --===============5627425802704990962== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "W.D.McKinney" wrote: >=20 > Somebody please post where on the CD's this app is ? >=20 The chameleon cursor program is called "susecurs" and is in the X application section (xap) As I said in a previous post though, you might have to create a sym link to get the program to look in the correct place for the chameleon. David Bellows -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5627425802704990962==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr 15 12:26:58 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Gates calls Linux impact 'fairly limited' Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:26:58 -0400 Message-ID: <3715DB12.FA5FC033@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <3715618C.EB1EE0DD@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3117859903834635701==" --===============3117859903834635701== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yea well ...There seems to be a bit of truth to this statement "Today the browsers have gotten rich enough that it's not the kind of software that you can develop and test in a university-type of environment," he said. the next post talks about execs leaving netscape.... then we hear about ie being ported to unix [yech] eems to me that before netscape was bought out by aol we had a chance but in = the last year or so its been downhill and ie seems to take up the slak. One other observation on my part... concidence or not, but the instablity see= md to arise when ns realeased its source-- it dosnt seem the OS programmers going anywhere with it. It just seems to get more resource hungry and less stable. Dont get me wrong... Ive *never* even used ie!! and I hate to see ns take a downslide which IMO apears to be happening rob "Fred A. Miller" wrote: > Ya really should read this one! If Gates is quiet about other software, he > normally isn't too worried about it. Now, he's talking, and he's FUDing...= big > time, and he's doing all he can to get a few "flakes" in the industry to ri= g a > test showing NT is better. Amazing......he's still fighting with the DOJ, = and > HAS to know that if he goes back to court next month without a settlement w= ith > the DOJ, Jackson is going to come down VERY hard on MS, and he's pulling all > these stunts. Anyway, Linux IS "getting" to him....no doubt about that. > > Fred > > <= A HREF=3D"http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2241918,00.htmlh= ttp://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2241918,00.html> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3117859903834635701==-- From Michael.Salmon@uab.ericsson.se Thu Apr 15 12:47:33 1999 From: Michael.Salmon@uab.ericsson.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Directory Alias Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:47:33 +0200 Message-ID: <199904151247.OAA04769@uabs78c65.uab.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5091591687562280546==" --===============5091591687562280546== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +----- On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:17:07 PDT, Robert Copelan writes: |=20 | Seems like I read somewhere that you can set one directory to point to | another... I've looked high and low today but can't find the command to do | that. Can anyone please enlighten me?=20 You can use ln -s or ln -d, the latter is not advised. /Michael -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5091591687562280546==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Thu Apr 15 13:03:53 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] MS Word dependency Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:03:53 +0100 Message-ID: <001301be8740$6a063140$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8417557489673800299==" --===============8417557489673800299== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. Over 500f all Microsoft profits come from MS Office. If this nut could be cracked, those of us who HAVE to buy NT/Word to make a living would have an alternative. M$ would be just another big software house rather than one that can force me to pay it money so I can stay in business. It would be nice if a way could be found before I am forced to buy Windows 2000 and Office 2000. Question 1: is it technically feasable to have a small document opener, perhaps running on WINE or even dosemu, that could open a *.doc cleanly and then save it as html, xml or whatever is accessable to all OS? Question 2: if it is technically possible, Sun, IBM, Corel, Apple and all the usual M$bashers would have a commercial interest in getting this done. Take out 500f Microsoft profit and you take away the air of invincibility that surrounds all M$ projects. Who else would have a commercial interest in making this type of utility available? Question 3: if it is technically possible, has someone started on this? If so, who are they and how can we get the message to the big boys that this person, company or organisation needs caoital and programmers and that its in their interest to provide them? Patrick > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Kirkwood [ma= ilto:weejock(a)ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk] > Sent: Thursday, 15 April 1999 13:42 > To: Patrick Kirk > Cc: linux-uk-discuss(a)mailbase.ac.uk > Subject: RE: What DO you gain/lose with Linux ??? > > > On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote: > > > I'd move to KDE tomorrow id I could open MS Word Documents. I'm a > > recruiter and occasionally a CV comes in by fax or post but usually by > > email. It's almost always MSWord. If a way could be found to open > > *.docs, M$ would have a far smaller captive market. > > > > Perhaps thats why they keep changing the format? > > That's (reputed to be) exactly the reason. > > Has anyone tried opening Word documents in AbiWord? > > Matthew. > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8417557489673800299==-- From Michael.Salmon@uab.ericsson.se Thu Apr 15 13:12:47 1999 From: Michael.Salmon@uab.ericsson.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Symbolic links vs. hard link Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:12:47 +0200 Message-ID: <199904151312.PAA04965@uabs78c65.uab.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <19990411075628.A926@datapro.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7045181405271931641==" --===============7045181405271931641== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +----- On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 07:56:28 +0200, Steve Crane writes: |=20 | On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 09:49:06PM -0500, Raul Beltran wrote: | > ln -s | >=20 | > the '-s' option creates a symbolic link instead of a hard link. |=20 | I've often wondered just what is meant by 'symbolic link' and 'hard | link'. The man page for ln mentions, but doesn't explain them. Can | someone explain the difference or point me to some docs that do explain | the difference. Yet another explanation. In any Unix system a file is a set of disk blocks that are linked=20 together (how isn't important, nor do they have to be complete blocks).=20 Note that a file doesn't have to have a name at all. A directory is a=20 set of names that are bound to files. The binding of name to file is=20 many to one, i.e. a file may have many names. Each of these bindings is=20 called a link, processes that have a file open are also linked to the=20 file. When a files link count becomes zero it's file space is=20 recovered. In the beginning there were just links but there are some=20 restrictions on where links may be used and an improvement was=20 developed at UCB. A file could contain a file name that was then used=20 in place of the first file and these were called symbolic or soft=20 links, the original links then became hard links. /Michael -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7045181405271931641==-- From maccer98_@yahoo.com Thu Apr 15 13:22:29 1999 From: maccer98_@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] IP chain rule scripting problem Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 06:22:29 -0700 Message-ID: <19990415132229.12767.rocketmail@web116.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7494194647468520898==" --===============7494194647468520898== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having a problem with a ipchain rule scripting for a connection to the ISPs usenet server. All other TCP protocols running work fine with their rule sets; www, irc, ssh, real, icq etc. I set the var of the news server as: NEWS_SERVER=3D" " [ with its domain within that]. ______________________________________________________ Then I call that from input/output rules as such: ipchains -A input -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p tcp ! -y \ -s $NEWS_SERVER 119 \ -d $IPADDR $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT ipchains -A output -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p tcp \ -s $IPADDR $UNPRIVPORTS \ -d $NEWS_SERVER 119 -j ACCEPT ______________________________________________________ Note this is the exact same syntax as I have used for other TCP protocols such as POP client, Finger client, http client, ssh etc etc and they work fine. I have pinged the usenet server from the ISP and it is up and running. Anyone have any suggestions to solve this problem is much welcomed. I would be greatly appreciative of someone's expertise. Thanx=20 GSM _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7494194647468520898==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Thu Apr 15 13:42:09 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 06:42:09 -0700 Message-ID: <199904151342.GAA17675@www1.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8010263173103240444==" --===============8010263173103240444== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ewan Dunbar wrote: >=20 > So, in other words, the only reason NT boots faster after an improper > shutdown is because it's braindead... No. It's because cold booting doesn't damage the NT file system. It does dama= ge the Linux=20 (and other Unix's) file systems. It is the directory structure technology us= ed that=20 makes Unix directories more fragile. DOSy file systems are further removed f= rom the=20 operating system. You can run chkdsk on NT every time you boot if you wish... you just don't ne= ed to like=20 you do under Linux. Karsten ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8010263173103240444==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Thu Apr 15 13:48:15 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WTF!!!! Yahoo article. Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 06:48:15 -0700 Message-ID: <199904151348.GAA07540@www2.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] WTF!!!! Yahoo article.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4781761981447985790==" --===============4781761981447985790== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ewan Dunbar wrote: >=20 > On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Ben Rosenberg wrote: >=20 > > Well, I was under the impression that on 1 was really in use now ...I > > don't exactly care about what WAS in use or COULD be in use..or MIGHT be > > used..I do know that the default for " most " systems is X. >=20 > Ah. Well, you're quite right there.. MGR is useless anyway. I've seen it on nearly every Linux distribution, but = to date, I've never seen it used. I tried running it, and I cannot see its=20 practicality. It is X *everywhere*. Bill seems to have confused fvwm, twm, fvwm95 etc as=20 being different windowing systems. One should be quite disappointed that=20 someone held in such high public esteem is so under-educated about his=20 competitors. The Unix world can speak facts upon facts about Microsoft operation and=20 shortcomings, but Bill Gates can't even tell you *what* X is... doh! Laters, Karsten ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4781761981447985790==-- From im@hem.passagen.se Thu Apr 15 14:00:58 1999 From: im@hem.passagen.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Automatic periodic updated page download. Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:00:58 +0200 Message-ID: <3715F11A.571840A6@hem.passagen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3167800450074557446==" --===============3167800450074557446== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a question... Setting: I have this site with a webcam, and it updates every x minutes.. It can either be viewed in a browser or a "remote window". It has a password set for downloading each new page.=20 (Same password for each frame) My problem is.. I need a script or something, to get EACH frame... ie. update, enter password, save it to disc with a running number, and wait for next update. Does anyone have an idea on how to do this? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3167800450074557446==-- From Martijn.van.den.Burg@asml.nl Thu Apr 15 14:01:00 1999 From: Martijn.van.den.Burg@asml.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] MS Word dependency Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:01:00 +0200 Message-ID: <199904151401.QAA29944@wspub011.asml.nl> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] MS Word dependency> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0217355056921395409==" --===============0217355056921395409== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Patrick Kirk wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi all. >=20 >=20 > Question 1: is it technically feasable to have a small document opener, > perhaps running on WINE or even dosemu, that could open a *.doc cleanly and > then save it as html, xml or whatever is accessable to all OS? >=20 Applix 'Words' can open M$ Weird docs and save them in other formats. I don't know which of them of the top of my head, but it even does FrameMaker MIF so I presume HTML will be in as well. It's part of the Applix Office suite/Linux Office Suite 99. See http:/= /www.applix.com> or http://www.suse.de/e/>. It may not be so small, but it is small enough when your problem is big enough :).=20 Kind regards, Martijn =3D Martijn van den Burg =3D Tech writer, archiver, Linux user =3D Publications Department, ASML -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0217355056921395409==-- From grimmer@suse.de Thu Apr 15 14:06:16 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 installation Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:06:16 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990414111410.007320c8@pineknot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8015190018246943134==" --===============8015190018246943134== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Don Werts wrote: > Hello to the group! I've tried to install 6.0 on my system. The > problem I'm having is that the CD-ROM I have is not supported on the > install diskette. I have an SoundBlaster 16, SB16 with the CD-ROM > connected to it's CD-ROM port. During the installation of the CD-ROM > driver selection there is a 'prompt' saying to "insert the modules > disk". The problem with this is there is only ONE floppy disk > included in the SuSE 6.0 package. >=20 > Are there any user's out there that has run into this problem? If so, > how did you resolve the problem? At this point I'm gonna stick with > vs. 5.3. There is a floppy image on the first CD under the subdirectory DISKS. It should also contain a modules-Archive. Just dump this image on a separate disk: dd if=3Dmodules of=3D/dev/fd0 Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8015190018246943134==-- From brian@Emma.COM Thu Apr 15 14:22:36 1999 From: brian@Emma.COM To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Man does not work anymore. Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:22:36 -0400 Message-ID: <3715F62C.611C4CEA@emma.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6127103793155785992==" --===============6127103793155785992== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I try to us 'man' I get: brian(a)papu:~ > man rm Segmentation fault brian(a)papu:~ >=20 I'm using: Linux papu 2.2.5-ac3 #1 Sun Apr 4 18:27:43 EDT 1999 i586 unknown I'm told that I should be able to find the cause using 'gdb' any help would be appreciated. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6127103793155785992==-- From dushi@telebyte.nl Thu Apr 15 14:31:44 1999 From: dushi@telebyte.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] GNOME 1.0 and SuSE 5.3 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:32:44 +0001 Message-ID: <199904151229.OAA02666@degas.telebyte.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7518250284476478210==" --===============7518250284476478210== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was so anxious to instaal GNOME 1.0 on my 5.3 system that althought it=20 was stated the rpm's where for SuSE 6.0 I went ahead and installed them=20 anyway. Ofcourse I had to install a lot of 6.0 rpm's first. After three days my system was a mess, and I had to reinstall 5.3 from scratch. My question is: Is there any way to install these Gnome 1.0 on my 5.3 system? Doe sanyone know when there will be a 5.3 version ? Or maybe I missed=20 something and there is already a 5.3 version. Hans Hopman -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7518250284476478210==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Thu Apr 15 14:31:47 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Gates calls Linux impact 'fairly limited' Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:31:47 -0400 Message-ID: <3715F853.89C693EE@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> In-Reply-To: <3715618C.EB1EE0DD@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8735746811770054460==" --===============8735746811770054460== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fred, What I would really like to see is more independent research comparing NT and Linux. NT is not some fly-by-night OS that has no engineering merit. It was designed under the direction of one of the OS pioneers, Dave Cutler. MS put= a lot of though and talent into creating the OS. One of the key features of NT= is its relative modularity. This should allow MS to modify and improve their de= sign with considerable flexibility. I don't trust results from research sponsored= by MS, but I don't have much information from independent sources as to how NT r= eally stacks up against Linux. The very strength Gates claims for NT may be the weakness that Linux will exp= loit against it. That is the decentralized control of development. Linux is deve= loped in an environment where ideas are offered up to the community. If people like= them they grow and become popular. Sure good ideas will be overlooked, but bad id= eas will most likely be short lived, and eliminated from the system. Yes there a= re (more than) five different DMs for Linux. That's fine by me. The strength of this is that good ideas from one DM can freely be adapted to another. A weakness that Linux seems to possess is that contributions come from several different developers all of whom have their own perspectives and limited understanding of the overall system. This means that, to some extent, one ha= nd doesn't know what the other is doing. I'm sure this happens in organizations= such as MS, but it seems to be more controllable there. Again this weakness my tu= rn out to be a strength, in that the independence of components may be forced on Linux by the failure of interdependent designs. That is, if people design components that rely to heavily on the inner working of other components they= are likely to break when the supporting components are modified and so will either lose popularity, or they will be modified in such a way as to become more disciplined in their interface to the overall system. The upshot of what I'm trying to say is, I believe the Linux verses NT contes= t is an interesting and instructive phenomenon. If one side is indeed using FUD tactics to advance their product, the other should not respond with FUD, but = with results. We should examine the criticism and evaluate its merit. Then we sh= ould adapt our collective behavior to address the weaknesses in our approach. Steve "Fred A. Miller" wrote: > Ya really should read this one! If Gates is quiet about other software, he > normally isn't too worried about it. Now, he's talking, and he's FUDing...= big > time, and he's doing all he can to get a few "flakes" in the industry to ri= g a > test showing NT is better. Amazing......he's still fighting with the DOJ, = and > HAS to know that if he goes back to court next month without a settlement w= ith > the DOJ, Jackson is going to come down VERY hard on MS, and he's pulling all > these stunts. Anyway, Linux IS "getting" to him....no doubt about that. > > Fred > > <= A HREF=3D"http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2241918,00.htmlh= ttp://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2241918,00.html> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8735746811770054460==-- From j.vermeulen@hot.A2000.nl Thu Apr 15 15:05:21 1999 From: j.vermeulen@hot.A2000.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] MS Word dependency Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:05:21 +0200 Message-ID: <37160031.9E03366E@hot.A2000.nl> In-Reply-To: <001301be8740$6a063140$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6280824229815234082==" --===============6280824229815234082== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Patrick Kirk wrote: =20 > It would be nice if a way could be found before I am forced to buy Windows > 2000 and Office 2000. What do you want to be done that StarOffice can't do for you? JV -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6280824229815234082==-- From grimmer@suse.de Thu Apr 15 15:27:10 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fwd: RHAD Labs announces GNOME 1.0 RPMS for RedHat Linux 5.2 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:27:10 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3714243E.3BBCDCE2@world.std.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3797462987628782197==" --===============3797462987628782197== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Brendan McEnaney wrote: > Michael Perry wrote: > >=20 > > I am forwarding this message from the gnome mailing list in the hopes > > that SuSE Management will see that supporting gnome with periodic > > releases of enhanced rpm packages is a good idea!! I would like to > > encourage SuSE to take a look at enhancing their releases of rpm > > updates to include updating gnome to the latest level. Many people > > would like to try gnome but are dissuaded by the rather unusual package > > dependencies and the intricacies of compiling almost 20 programs that > > may have a whole bunch of other requirements. > [snip] >=20 > I just want to add my plea to Michael's. Please, SuSE, make gnome rpm > updates a high priority. A return to Redhat is beginning to look > _very_ attractive right about now just because of this one issue. I > simply adore the gnome/windowmaker desktop combo and I'm a big > S.u.S.E. fan but the lack of any effort from SuSE to keep up with > gnome releases is really starting to bum me out. :-( It just took some time :) There is now a directory on our ftp-Server and it's mirrors: ftp://ftp.suse.com/= pub/suse_update/GNOME/glibc/1.0.x/> It may take a while, until it has been propagated to all mirrors, so please be patient... Here's a list of packages: GNOME core packages for SuSE Linux 6.0 or later. gn_doc-1.0.5-0.i386.rpm documentation (user-guide) gnadmin-1.0.1-8.i386.rpm GNOME admin tools gnaudio-1.0.0-9.i386.rpm GNOME audio gncontr-1.0.5-0.i386.rpm GNOME control center gncontrd-1.0.5-0.i386.rpm ditto - development kit gngames-1.0.2-7.i386.rpm GNOME games gngamesd-1.0.2-7.i386.rpm ditto - development kit gnlibs-1.0.8-1.i386.rpm GNOME libraries gnlibsd-1.0.8-1.i386.rpm ditto - development kit gnmedia-1.0.1-9.i386.rpm GNOME media gnnet-1.0.1-9.i386.rpm GNOME network tools gnobjc-1.0.1-9.i386.rpm GNOME objective C gnprint-0.1.1-7.i386.rpm GNOME print gnutils-1.0.1-10.i386.rpm GNOME utilities libghtt-1.0.2-0.i386.rpm http library libghttd-1.0.2-0.i386.rpm ditto - development kit libgtop-1.0.1-10.i386.rpm gtop library libgtopd-1.0.1-10.i386.rpm ditto - development kit orbit-0.4.3-1.i386.rpm ORBit orbitdev-0.4.3-1.i386.rpm ditto - development kit Applications: ee-0.3.8-10.i386.rpm gnotepad-1.1.2-8.i386.rpm enlight-0.14-11.i386.rpm gnumeric-0.23-0.i386.rpm gdm-1.0.0-8.i386.rpm gtop-1.0.1-10.i386.rpm gedit-0.5.1-9.i386.rpm mc-4.5.30-0.i386.rpm gmc-4.5.30-0.i386.rpm tcd-1.0.1-9.i386.rpm gnorpm-0.7-9.i386.rpm wmaker-0.51.1-8.i386.rpm Extra packages to make GNOME run on SuSE Linux 6.0 or later. For best results, you may consider to update these packages. audiofil-0.1.6-9.i386.rpm audio library esound-0.2.7-11.i386.rpm Esound fnlib-0.2-49.i386.rpm =20 glibn-1.2.1-7.i386.rpm glibndev-1.2.1-7.i386.rpm gtkeng-0.4-11.i386.rpm gtkn-1.2.1-7.i386.rpm gtkndev-1.2.1-7.i386.rpm guile-1.3-25.i386.rpm imlib-1.9.5-0.i386.rpm imlibcfe-1.9.5-0.i386.rpm imlibdev-1.9.5-0.i386.rpm libpng-2.1.0-17.i386.rpm libxml-1.0.0-9.i386.rpm XML library libxmld-1.0.0-9.i386.rpm ditto - development kit Enjoy! Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3797462987628782197==-- From rimez@surfree.com Thu Apr 15 15:30:33 1999 From: rimez@surfree.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WTF!!!! Yahoo article. Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:30:33 -0400 Message-ID: <99041511334900.09231@rimez> In-Reply-To: <199904151348.GAA07540@www2.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2345336087101545363==" --===============2345336087101545363== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Karsten Johansson wrote: > Ewan Dunbar wrote: > >=20 > > On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Ben Rosenberg wrote: > >=20 > > > Well, I was under the impression that on 1 was really in use now ...I > > > don't exactly care about what WAS in use or COULD be in use..or MIGHT = be > > > used..I do know that the default for " most " systems is X. I figured that Bill was talking about Xfree86, Metro-X, and Accelrated-X. All are in wide use, though Xfree86 is by far the most common. regards, rimez -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2345336087101545363==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Thu Apr 15 16:22:36 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] MS Word dependency Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:22:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000001be875c$2c44f410$1900000a@p25> In-Reply-To: <37160031.9E03366E@hot.A2000.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4911022463814497573==" --===============4911022463814497573== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am a recruiter and receive CVs by email. Almost always Word documents. I want to be able to carry on receiving these CVs and thus need a Word converter. StarOffice is nice but not free, as in GPL. So if I am going to switch to Linux, I will also switch to a free Word Processor. Moreover, the ability to open Word documents is a major part of the M$ lock-in. The Open Source community needs a utility to break this lock-in. Patrick > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of j.vermeulen > Sent: Thursday, 15 April 1999 16:05 > Cc: Suse-Linux-E > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] MS Word dependency > > > > Patrick Kirk wrote: > > > It would be nice if a way could be found before I am forced to > buy Windows > > 2000 and Office 2000. > > What do you want to be done that StarOffice can't do for you? > > JV > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4911022463814497573==-- From snapek@yahoo.com Thu Apr 15 16:31:13 1999 From: snapek@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CD-ROM Troubles Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:31:13 -0700 Message-ID: <19990415163113.3820.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] CD-ROM Troubles> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8842783540622619692==" --===============8842783540622619692== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I apologize if this message is being sent to the wrong mail list, but if so, could you let me know where I shoudl foreward it please. Basically, I've just "upgraded" from a 486 DX4 100Mhz Linux box (on which I started to introduce myself to linux), to a Pentium 60mhz (Both with 40 Megs of RAM). I have as so far notice an INCREDIBLE drop is system speed (where the current pentium is making the 486 look like a Sparc! I havent the foggiest idea why this may be (but for the possible fact that while installing SuSE on the pentium, I was using the 5.2 boot disk with 5.3 CDrom ). If anyone knows how I can speed this up, as it takes almost 15-20 mins to load up SaX (and then the mouse takes around 5 minutes to respond to movements), it is practically impossible to do anything. Any suggestions would help. Secondly, my problem is that on upgrade, I also purchased a 32x Samsung CDROM. I have recently discovered that all kernel versions prior to 2.2.0 have a bug with the transfer rate from that particular brand of drives (ie: 65534 instead of 65535 for packet sizes). I am aware that there is a patch to upgrade to 2.2.x that fixes the bug, but I wonder if that would be usable for the current kernel version that comes with SuSE 5.3 (2.0.35 I believe). Or, if there is anything I can do to overcome this transfer problem (I managed to get around it with some minor bios buffering, enabling me to install SuSE 5.3, but this, coupled with slow pc performance as mentioned above, took me well over 4 hours to install 148 packages. So all in all, I'm in desperate need of help :)! (Linux newbie, yes I am! :)) So, I apologize again if this is in the wrong place, and would you let me know if so, so I can fix it.=20 Otherwise, I hope for prompt replies :) Thanks, Keith Snape _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8842783540622619692==-- From mantel@suse.de Thu Apr 15 17:02:39 1999 From: mantel@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: SuSE 6.0 installation Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:02:39 +0200 Message-ID: <19990415190239.F11198@suse.de> In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990414111410.007320c8@pineknot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1768472833426199757==" --===============1768472833426199757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Wed, Apr 14, Don Werts wrote: > Hello to the group! I've tried to install 6.0 on my system. The problem > I'm having is that the CD-ROM I have is not supported on the install > diskette. I have an SoundBlaster 16, SB16 with the CD-ROM connected to it's > CD-ROM port. > During the installation of the CD-ROM driver selection there is a 'prompt' > saying to "insert the modules disk". The problem with this is there is > only ONE floppy disk included in the SuSE 6.0 package. dd if=3D/cdrom/disks/modules of=3D/dev/fd0 tarting with 6.1 we will provide two disks, although only very few people need those ancient drivers. > Are there any user's out there that has run into this problem? If so, how > did you resolve the problem? At this point I'm gonna stick with vs. 5.3. >=20 > TIA, Don... -o) Hubert Mantel Goodbye, dots... /\\ _\_v -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1768472833426199757==-- From dwj@linuxtoday.com Thu Apr 15 17:14:45 1999 From: dwj@linuxtoday.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] MS Word dependency Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:14:45 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000001be875c$2c44f410$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0009291266850383557==" --===============0009291266850383557== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote: =20 > StarOffice is nice but not free, as in GPL. So if I am going to switch to > Linux, I will also switch to a free Word Processor. =20 WordPerfect for Linux does a nice job on Word documents. I prefer it to StarOffice. Applix also works for this as well. The problem I have with StarOffice is it's basically designed for MS Windows and has none of the flexibility I have come to expect from X Windows applications. > Moreover, the ability to open Word documents is a major part of the M$ > lock-in. The Open Source community needs a utility to break this lock-in. Try mswordview:=20 ftp://ftp.falsehope.com/pub/mswordview> ftp://ftp.= tux.org/pub/sites/ftp.falsehope.com/mswordview> ftp://ftp.freshmeat.net/pub/rpms/msw= ordview> Dwight -- Dwight Johnson All the Latest dwj(a)linuxtoday.com Linux News ------------------->>http://linuxtoday.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0009291266850383557==-- From seanmcgrath@worldnet.att.net Thu Apr 15 17:20:59 1999 From: seanmcgrath@worldnet.att.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Star Office crashing Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:20:59 -0500 Message-ID: <37161FFB.881D56A2@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0990979186349667809==" --===============0990979186349667809== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone installed StarOffice 5.0 that came with SUSE 6.0? I installed it as directed, enetered the appropriate Mediakey, but whenever I try to create a new text document the entire office crashes hard, in fact, whenever I try to utilize any feature in Star Office it crashes hard. I have recently upgraded my SUSE 5.3->6.0 and am wondering if that might be part of `the problem. Several programs that use to work didn't work until I reinstalled old libaries ... now THEY work but StarOffice still crashes. Any suggestions? Thanks seanmcgrath(a)att.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0990979186349667809==-- From wolfsong@blaze.ca Thu Apr 15 17:32:20 1999 From: wolfsong@blaze.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] MS Word dependency Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:32:20 -0700 Message-ID: <371622A4.42B2F7A9@blaze.ca> In-Reply-To: <000001be875c$2c44f410$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6233254041590760100==" --===============6233254041590760100== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Patrick - Applixware and Star Office both read MS docs. As both are included in SuSe 6.= 0, you should have no problem. Don't let MS fool you - the Open Source community is ON it! -- islandwolf "live from the den of ubiquity" Patrick Kirk wrote: > I am a recruiter and receive CVs by email. Almost always Word documents. I > want to be able to carry on receiving these CVs and thus need a Word > converter. > > StarOffice is nice but not free, as in GPL. So if I am going to switch to > Linux, I will also switch to a free Word Processor. > > Moreover, the ability to open Word documents is a major part of the M$ > lock-in. The Open Source community needs a utility to break this lock-in. > > Patrick > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > > Behalf Of j.vermeulen > > Sent: Thursday, 15 April 1999 16:05 > > Cc: Suse-Linux-E > > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] MS Word dependency > > > > > > > > Patrick Kirk wrote: > > > > > It would be nice if a way could be found before I am forced to > > buy Windows > > > 2000 and Office 2000. > > > > What do you want to be done that StarOffice can't do for you? > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6233254041590760100==-- From steven@kfamily.demon.co.uk Thu Apr 15 17:45:16 1999 From: steven@kfamily.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] NT Boot loader Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:45:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000201be8774$543d1d40$f736edc1@kfmmb> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] NT Boot loader> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5729086187220758387==" --===============5729086187220758387== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also use a similar system. Take a look at: = http://www.winplanet.com/features/howtos/ntdirectboot/index.html> Hope this helps, Steven ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] NT Boot loader > >Patrick, > >I operate a similar system to the one you want - several OSes all >booting off the NT boot loader. I still have LILO installed on the >Linux partition, however... > >The steps I use are as follows (substitute in hdxx and /mnt/DOS for >whatever is appropriate to your PC for the bootable partition and mount >point for the DOS partition): > >1. Run lilo at the command prompt, to update the boot sector on the >Linux partition. > >2. Mount the drive you are using to boot everything off (usually >/dev/hda1). Ideally it should be a FAT16 partition. > >3. As root, type the command > dd if=3D/dev/hdxx of=3D/mnt/dos/bootsect.lnx bs=3D512 count=3D1 > >4. Remove the read-only flag from /mnt/dos/boot.ini, and add an entry in >the [Operating Systems] section that reads something like > > c:\bootsect.lnx =3D "Linux" > >5. Close and save boot.ini and reboot the PC. > >Later, > >Alan. > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5729086187220758387==-- From nhasan@usa.net Thu Apr 15 18:21:54 1999 From: nhasan@usa.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] suseppp/ppp-up disconnects after dialing Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:21:54 -0400 Message-ID: <37162E42.E86F3C65@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7467653834284552826==" --===============7467653834284552826== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm trying to set up suseppp and when I execute /etc/suseppp/scripts/ppp-up generic debug, It dials, connects and then hangs up. There is no tell-tale message in the /var/log/messages that explains this behavior. I think I have setup suseppp as described using Yast. Help is greatly appreciated. Nadeem -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7467653834284552826==-- From dsoper@efn.org Thu Apr 15 19:44:29 1999 From: dsoper@efn.org To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:44:29 -0700 Message-ID: <199904151944.MAA16983@clavin.efn.org> In-Reply-To: <199904141619.JAA30026@www1.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6099340568395225558==" --===============6099340568395225558== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14 Apr 99, at 9:19, Karsten Johansson wrote: > Steven's claim here seems to say that Linux Beowulf outperforms NT clusteri= ng. =20 > I have never seen stats on this. Do they exist? =20 I'm on another list with someone who works in InfoWorld's testing=20 lab. He said they've never been able to really get NT's clustering=20 stable enough to actually test it. For some odd reason, it keeps=20 blowing up without warning.... Cheers, Dennis "Custard pies are a sort of esperanto: a universal language."=20 --Noel Godin =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6099340568395225558==-- From rthompson@motleypc.com Thu Apr 15 20:12:35 1999 From: rthompson@motleypc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] CD-ROM Troubles Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:12:35 -0700 Message-ID: <000d01be877c$4d760ff0$30e7d8cd@rlt450> In-Reply-To: <19990415163113.3820.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1070236910162591091==" --===============1070236910162591091== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well...the best I recall a DX4/100 was equivalent speedwise to a P75....quite a bit faster than a P60. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of Keith Snape > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 9:31 AM > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CD-ROM Troubles > > > > I apologize if this message is being sent to the wrong > mail list, but if so, could you let me know where I > shoudl foreward it please. > > Basically, I've just "upgraded" from a 486 DX4 100Mhz > Linux box (on which I started to introduce myself to > linux), to a Pentium 60mhz (Both with 40 Megs of RAM). > I have as so far notice an INCREDIBLE drop is system > speed (where the current pentium is making the 486 > look like a Sparc! I havent the foggiest idea why this > may be (but for the possible fact that while > installing SuSE on the pentium, I was using the 5.2 > boot disk with 5.3 CDrom ). If anyone knows how I can > speed this up, as it takes almost 15-20 mins to load > up SaX (and then the mouse takes around 5 minutes to > respond to movements), it is practically impossible to > do anything. Any suggestions would help. > > Secondly, my problem is that on upgrade, I also > purchased a 32x Samsung CDROM. I have recently > discovered that all kernel versions prior to 2.2.0 > have a bug with the transfer rate from that particular > brand of drives (ie: 65534 instead of 65535 for packet > sizes). I am aware that there is a patch to upgrade > to 2.2.x that fixes the bug, but I wonder if that > would be usable for the current kernel version that > comes with SuSE 5.3 (2.0.35 I believe). Or, if there > is anything I can do to overcome this transfer problem > (I managed to get around it with some minor bios > buffering, enabling me to install SuSE 5.3, but this, > coupled with slow pc performance as mentioned above, > took me well over 4 hours to install 148 packages. So > all in all, I'm in desperate need of help :)! (Linux > newbie, yes I am! :)) > > So, I apologize again if this is in the wrong place, > and would you let me know if so, so I can fix it. > Otherwise, I hope for prompt replies :) > > Thanks, > Keith Snape > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1070236910162591091==-- From Gleth@tinet.ie Thu Apr 15 20:16:30 1999 From: Gleth@tinet.ie To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Help, my system won't send packets to the ethernet. Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:16:30 +0000 Message-ID: <3716491E.BE3B98ED@tinet.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3494368969006765755==" --===============3494368969006765755== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, I have a SparcStation LX (running Solaris2.6) and a PC running SuSE 6.0 which are connected via an ethernet. The system seems to be set up correctly (and the card works) but when I look at the output from cat /proc/net/dev I find that all of the packets are being routed to lo instead of to eth0. I have ppp working correctly ( this wouldn't be able to get sent otherwise) and have got a friend to look at my system and am at a loss as to what is going wrong.=20 (I'm _sure_ I'm missing *something*) If someone could help I would be extremely greatfull, as I have to boot into Windoze if I want to connect my Sparc to the internet. Output of netstat -rn : Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.42.42 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 1500 0 0 dummy0 159.134.238.24 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 1524 0 0 ppp0 192.168.42.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 1500 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 3584 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 159.134.238.24 0.0.0.0 UG 1524 0 0 ppp0=20 --- Output of route : Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface dragonsong.rowa * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 dummy0 as1.adl.dublin. * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 ppp0 rowanoak.zalyin * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 loopback * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 4 lo default as1.adl.dublin. 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 3 ppp0 =20 --- Output of ifconfig : ifconfiglo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 RX packets:26 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:26 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 dummy0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet addr:192.168.42.42 Bcast:192.168.42.255=20 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:24:99:EC:C5 inet addr:192.168.42.42 Bcast:192.168.42.255=20 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 Interrupt:10 Base address:0xf780 ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:159.134.226.103 P-t-P:159.134.238.24=20 Mask:255.255.0.0 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING MTU:1524 Metric:1 RX packets:581 errors:9 dropped:9 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:704 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 Memory:26a7038-26a7c34 --- Output of cat /proc/net/dev : Inter-| Receive | Transmit face |packets errs drop fifo frame|packets errs drop fifo colls carrier lo: 26 0 0 0 0 26 0 0 0 0 0 nr0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 nr1: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 nr2: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 nr3: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 dummy0: No statistics available. eth0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 bpq0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ppp0: 581 9 9 0 0 704 0 0 0 0 0 --- Again, my thanks for taking the time to try and help. Have Fun, G'leth (Jim Mcboyle) Gleth(a)white-star.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3494368969006765755==-- From hlarons@ComCAT.COM Thu Apr 15 20:30:09 1999 From: hlarons@ComCAT.COM To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Man does not work anymore. Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:30:09 -0400 Message-ID: <19990415163009.C217@BeagleDog> In-Reply-To: <3715F62C.611C4CEA@emma.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3285746852386706021==" --===============3285746852386706021== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Apr 15, 1999, Brian Fuller wrote: >=20 > When I try to us 'man' I get: >=20 > brian(a)papu:~ > man rm > Segmentation fault > brian(a)papu:~ >=20 Had the same problem. Run 'mandb -c' to recreate your man indices. HTH Howard Arons --=20 Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- Upgraded to kernel 2.0.36 Communications by Mutt 0.93.2i -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3285746852386706021==-- From brian@Emma.COM Thu Apr 15 21:35:56 1999 From: brian@Emma.COM To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Man does not work anymore. Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:35:56 -0400 Message-ID: <37165BBC.86187A@emma.com> In-Reply-To: <19990415163009.C217@BeagleDog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8486669749908832241==" --===============8486669749908832241== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howard Arons wrote: >=20 > On Apr 15, 1999, Brian Fuller wrote: > > > > When I try to us 'man' I get: > > > > brian(a)papu:~ > man rm > > Segmentation fault > > brian(a)papu:~ > >=20 > Had the same problem. Run 'mandb -c' to recreate your man indices. >=20 > HTH I just ran that getting: brian(a)papu:~ > mandb -c 0 man subdirectories contained newer manual pages. 0 manual pages and 0 stray cats were added. brian(a)papu:~ > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8486669749908832241==-- From risch@tir.com Thu Apr 15 21:37:12 1999 From: risch@tir.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WTF!!!! Yahoo article. Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:37:12 -0400 Message-ID: <37165C08.BB5AF18C@tir.com> In-Reply-To: <199904151348.GAA07540@www2.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1240513530842154513==" --===============1240513530842154513== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, He may not know about X, but on the other hand he may intend to paint a picture of Linux that would discourage those, who know nothing but Micro$quezze. Most people do not investigate what is said in the press, particularly when it is said by someone, who is in high places. Who said, "Tell a lie long enough and it will become the truth."? He wasn't the first to use that and he won't be the last. Regards, Bob Powered by SuSE Linux 5.3 Karsten Johansson wrote: >=20 > Ewan Dunbar wrote: > > > > On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Ben Rosenberg wrote: > > > > > Well, I was under the impression that on 1 was really in use now ...I > > > don't exactly care about what WAS in use or COULD be in use..or MIGHT = be > > > used..I do know that the default for " most " systems is X. > > > > Ah. Well, you're quite right there.. >=20 > MGR is useless anyway. I've seen it on nearly every Linux distribution, but > to date, I've never seen it used. I tried running it, and I cannot see its > practicality. >=20 > It is X *everywhere*. Bill seems to have confused fvwm, twm, fvwm95 etc as > being different windowing systems. One should be quite disappointed that > someone held in such high public esteem is so under-educated about his > competitors. >=20 > The Unix world can speak facts upon facts about Microsoft operation and > shortcomings, but Bill Gates can't even tell you *what* X is... doh! >=20 > Laters, > Karsten >=20 > ______________________________________________________ > Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> > Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting > cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com> >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1240513530842154513==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 15 21:58:18 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Automatic periodic updated page download. Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:58:18 +0200 Message-ID: <371660FA.D09EBD67@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <3715F11A.571840A6@hem.passagen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4615282277019246282==" --===============4615282277019246282== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "R. Johnels" wrote: > Does anyone have an idea on how to do this? wget is pretty nice for this. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4615282277019246282==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Thu Apr 15 22:15:26 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sql for linux and can windows apps access thel Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:15:26 -0500 Message-ID: <371664FE.6DAFE7F0@navix.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6700458266599741211==" --===============6700458266599741211== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert Copelan wrote: >=20 > I have just installed PostgreSQL from the distribution CDs. However I don't > find the commands below. > Do I need to run them from a particular directory? > Robert > I'll assume a standard installation for postgres, pgaccess and pg_iface ... =20 The documentation for all the packages are in the the appropriate subdirectory of: /usr/doc/packages/ Under it you will find /posgres, /pg_iface, /pgaccess and /mpsql. Under the postgres directory is the /html directory. Loading the index.html and selecting the "Installation" URL, you can go to chapter 3, "Installation:. Step 14 and 15 are very important, but rather than putting the stuff (if the install didn't already do it) in ~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile, put it in /etc/profile. In /etc/profile you can put PGLIB=3D/usr/lib/pgsql/lib PGDATA=3D/var/lib/pgsql/data export PGLIB export PGDATA in the 'for DIR' loop insert somewhere: /usr/lib/pgsql/lib \ /usr/lib/pgsql/bin \ /var/lib/pgsql/data \ These settings let PostgreSQL know here it's libraries were installed and where the data is located. If the boot process doesn't already install the PostgreSQL deamon, postmaster, then you need to fire it up with the -i argument from the postgres account using: postmaster -i >>~/server.log 2>&1 & The chapter 3 gives other techniques and switches for the postmaster, especially page 13 which gives a method of installing postmaster via inittab in a way that causes it to respawn if it get closed down for any reason. I chose not to use that method. I want to control when it starts and when it stops. I don't want it running if I am not using it. Like any good Linux user you will want to read through the documentation once before you start messing around. Also, once you get it installed, going through the tutorial, which features psql, is a very good idea.=20 Also, after installing pgaccess, when you fire it up it will ask for a hostname, a user name, and a database. If you followed the tutorial then you already have an account (created from the template1 account) that contains the 'weather' database and some data in it.=20 JLK --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6700458266599741211==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Thu Apr 15 22:33:20 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Printing Problems Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:33:20 -0500 Message-ID: <37166930.19629E23@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B9A88@ctrl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1185669875142051399==" --===============1185669875142051399== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Delbaere, Tim" wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I am running SuSE 6.0, 2.0.34, kernel, and have set up my printer under YAST > (Epson Stylus 640) to use the stylus colour settings. >=20 > Nothing will print at all. >=20 > But I can cat test.txt > /dev/lp1, and the text file is printed. >=20 > Got any ideas, as I getting a bit fed up now. > -- Have you installed Ghostscript? JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1185669875142051399==-- From mcenaney@world.std.com Thu Apr 15 22:41:14 1999 From: mcenaney@world.std.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fwd: RHAD Labs announces GNOME 1.0 RPMS for RedHat Linux 5.2 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:41:14 -0400 Message-ID: <37166B0A.69EF9FF1@world.std.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2243326820688693235==" --===============2243326820688693235== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lenz Grimmer wrote: [snip] > There is now a directory on our ftp-Server and it's mirrors: >=20 > ftp://ftp.suse.= com/pub/suse_update/GNOME/glibc/1.0.x/> [snip] Thank you Lenz. You've turned my frown upside down. :-) --=20 Brendan McEnaney http= ://world/~mcenaney> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2243326820688693235==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Thu Apr 15 22:43:25 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Gates calls Linux impact 'fairly limited' Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:43:25 -0500 Message-ID: <37166B8D.D94FE7EC@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3715618C.EB1EE0DD@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7960003404693013326==" --===============7960003404693013326== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Fred A. Miller" wrote: >=20 > Ya really should read this one! If Gates is quiet about other software, he > normally isn't too worried about it. Now, he's talking, and he's FUDing...= big > time, and he's doing all he can to get a few "flakes" in the industry to ri= g a > test showing NT is better. Amazing......he's still fighting with the DOJ, = and > HAS to know that if he goes back to court next month without a settlement w= ith > the DOJ, Jackson is going to come down VERY hard on MS, and he's pulling all > these stunts. Anyway, Linux IS "getting" to him....no doubt about that. >=20 > Fred >=20 Bill's tongue is 'forking' ("He speaks with forked tongue"- to quote the natives)... he has said under oath in a court of law that Linux is serious competition, and one the anti-linux campaign trail he claiming it is not serious competition. My only question is: which of Bill's imps will play the roll of James Carville? --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7960003404693013326==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Thu Apr 15 22:59:54 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Gates calls Linux impact 'fairly limited' Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:59:54 -0500 Message-ID: <37166F6A.651BA39B@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3715DB12.FA5FC033@connix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3284357423994749023==" --===============3284357423994749023== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dizzy wrote: >=20 > yea well ...There seems to be a bit of truth to this statement >=20 > "Today the browsers have gotten rich enough that it's not the kind of softw= are > that you can develop and test in a university-type of environment," he said. >=20 > the next post talks about execs leaving netscape.... > then we hear about ie being ported to unix [yech] >=20 > seems to me that before netscape was bought out by aol we had a chance but = in the > last year or so its been downhill and ie seems to take up the slak. > One other observation on my part... concidence or not, but the instablity s= eemd to > arise when ns realeased its source-- it dosnt seem the OS programmers going > anywhere with it. It just seems to get more resource hungry and less stable. > Dont get me wrong... Ive *never* even used ie!! and I hate to see ns take a > downslide which IMO apears to be happening > rob It amazes me how 'down in the mouth' some people get just because Bill Gates is running around the country shouting "the Linux sky is falling". Gates isn't and can't do anything to change the future of Linux. It is not in his hands. Linux isn't like "Netscape", for example, which had to continually generate income for salaries, overhead and stock profits competing against M$'s browser without having M$'s marketing channel and without controlling the OS. Linux hasn't needed or used any of that. Linux has arrived where it is at today by being a fast and stable OS that is free, and by word of mouth. Nothing has changed. Linux will continue to be free no matter what M$ does. It will continue to be fast and powerful. Even RedHat knows that it's presence and growth is because of Linux and not the other way around. =20 Linux will continue to grow, as it has been doing, because it is now a tested OS that has reached a critical mass. I view Gate's appearances, and those of his sychophants and FUD dispensers, as an indication of his/their desperation. More and more people/companies are realizing how much money can be saved, how much speed and stability can be achieved using Linux. A business with 30 servers and 300 workstations can save nearly $500,000 avoiding a single Windows "upgrade" cycle! That ain't chicken feed. With the advent of high quality X-clients like KDE (and GNOME, if it ever gets out of beta), an exploding third party market and EOM/VARs selling PC with Linux installed, even the computer neophytes will find migrating to Linux easy. No need to dispare. "Just dance with the one that brought you to the dance." JLK --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3284357423994749023==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Thu Apr 15 23:10:16 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Key executives plan to leave Netscape Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:10:16 -0500 Message-ID: <371671D8.6015147D@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <371563BB.6D11652@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3479835348967828830==" --===============3479835348967828830== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Fred A. Miller" wrote: >=20 > What's happening, is what some of us were afraid of. >=20 > Fred It means nothing. Companies have come and companies have gone. Linux wasn't tied to Netscape, but Netscape came to Linux late in a desperate attempt to save itself. Netscape couldn't compete against M$ after M$ started giving away IE for free, cutting off Netscape's major revenue stream, because they didn't have the OS club to bludgeon vendors with.=20 Linux has shredded the OS club M$ was swinging around because M$ still has to generate income to pay overhead and stock owners. That is probably why it split up, to isolate the OS group from the applications groups. To get lean and more mean. M$ still has a lot of momentun and can continue to run for a while. Shucks, even DOS is still being used on 386 and 486 PC's. Windows didn't kill DOS, and Linux won't wipe windows totally out. But, Linus created the silver bullet that hit the heart of the blood-sucking vampire... the message just hasn't traveled all the way to the brain yet. JLK --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3479835348967828830==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Thu Apr 15 23:41:44 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] color pine- the saga continues Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:41:44 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6734459255153843019==" --===============6734459255153843019== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In my effort to get a colorised pine it seems that I have to compile from the source. I got the source from the suse cd #4 and attempted a compile. Apparetly there is a pine4.02.dif file that Im not sure where to add it or what to do with it. LOoking at the files dosent seem to generate any clues Ive tried cat pine4.02 >> build no luck I tired to add it as an argument in the build file where it asks if arg=3D -f .bld replacing .bld with the diff file no luck the build seems to break at /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld and an error is -ltermcap cant locate or something to that effect the last error is where its supposed to create the executables in bin but it fails on pico & pine however imap and termcap come out Any help would be appreciated rob Linux Homepage http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM= .htm> S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6734459255153843019==-- From rthompson@motleypc.com Thu Apr 15 23:57:13 1999 From: rthompson@motleypc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: re: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading a SuSE system Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:57:13 -0800 Message-ID: <199904151955.PAA16159@fh106.infi.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4274119843354946262==" --===============4274119843354946262== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What is this standard that has all source compiled packages installed in /usr? My preference would be that all programs are installed to the same location a= s any default installation of the source...so that those of us that don't wai= t for SuSE updates can install over top of existing installations. My .02 Rick Thompson > ** Original Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading a SuSE system > ** Original Sender: Lenz Grimmer > ** Original Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:36:55 +0200 (MEST) > ** Original Message follows...=20 > > Hi, >=20 > On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Edmunds, Keith wrote: >=20 > > I went to install Samba V2 on my SuSE 6.0 system last night. The > > problem, of course, is the location of the files, which is different > > on SuSE 6 to the defaults in Samba (which puts them somewhere under > > /usr/local). >=20 > Right. This is the default, if you install a package from source. Since we > have integrated the package in our distribution, we install it under /usr. >=20 > > This is an ongoing issue - I had the same problem upgrading fvwm2. > > What's a good solution to this one? Can SuSE document how they place > > files, so that when I run 'configure' I can give the correct arguments > > to upgrade the correct files? >=20 > This is documented in the spec-file, which belongs to the source-RPM. Just > install the source package or have a look into the SRPM using "mc". >=20 > Bye, > LenZ >=20 > --=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH > mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 > http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Ger= many >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** >=20 Download Neoplanet at http://www.neoplanet.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4274119843354946262==-- From dno@blueskyweb.com Fri Apr 16 02:00:21 1999 From: dno@blueskyweb.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] /usr/bin/gpm: /dev/mouse: No such device Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:00:21 -0400 Message-ID: <00b701be87ac$e36c41c0$e981a6d1@dnohomepc> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] /usr/bin/gpm: /dev/mouse: No such device> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2550408683543278942==" --===============2550408683543278942== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a ms mouse, I used the ps2 driver with the altps2 device. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Kirk To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 7:36 AM Subject: [SuSE Linux] /usr/bin/gpm: /dev/mouse: No such device > >Hi all, > >Just installed 5.2 this morning and could not get Linux to see my mouse. >Its a Microsoft two buttons serial mouse. > >In the boot process there were some messages about /dev/cua0,1,etc. not >found. > >Does anyone know how to fix this? All help appreciated as I can't get >beyond the login to KDE 'til the mouse gets sorted. > >Patrick Kirk of Enterprise HR > >Tel: 0044 118 939 1122 Web: http://www.enterprise-hr.com> > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2550408683543278942==-- From michael@merrittpop.com Fri Apr 16 02:24:54 1999 From: michael@merrittpop.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:24:54 -0500 Message-ID: <37169F76.68A31DF5@merrittpop.com> In-Reply-To: <199904141619.JAA30026@www1.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1527354441195940473==" --===============1527354441195940473== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Karsten Johansson wrote: > I have never seen stats on this. Do they exist? As for the dual pentium..= the > article did not say that it wont work... it used the term "full fledged > support". Linux has only very basic support for dual processors. NT has t= he > whole shebang, and can be tuned til the cows come home. Linux will get the= re... Actually, NT has absoultely sorry support for multiple processors. You can gain maybe 10 - 15% max with a second processor. When the PIIs first came out, we got a dual-266 system (June of '97 maybe?), ran it with NT for a couple of weeks, it was awful. We took out the second processor, reinstalled, and it ran much better. Is that the "full-fledged support" that we want Linux to get? -- Michael Merritt michael(a)merrittpop.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/> michaelmerritt(a)email.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/jmm/> ICQ: 21021306 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1527354441195940473==-- From ljackson@techlinks.com Fri Apr 16 02:27:27 1999 From: ljackson@techlinks.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 & WindowMaker Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:27:27 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2636315872644051612==" --===============2636315872644051612== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've installed SuSE 6.0 and chose WindowMaker and Bowman as my window managers. I understand I can start Bowman by typing startx bowman but I don't know how to start windowmaker. If I type startx wmaker, it just starts bowman. Have I missed a step somewhere? Yes, there is a wmaker exe in my /X11R6/bin directory. Thanks Jackson (Seattle, WA) ---------------------------- = http://www.techlinks.com> http://www.livebandwidth.com> Linux...stable, includes source code, and the price is right! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2636315872644051612==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Fri Apr 16 02:31:29 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Key executives plan to leave Netscape Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:31:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3716A101.752B1624@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <371671D8.6015147D@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8623457589435747259==" --===============8623457589435747259== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerry, Wooden Stake for Vampires and Silver Bullets for Werewolves..are we gonna have to send you back to Marvel Comics 101 *grin* ... But, Linus created the silver bullet that hit the > heart of the blood-sucking vampire... the message just hasn't traveled > all the way to the brain yet. --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8623457589435747259==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Fri Apr 16 02:43:01 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Gates calls Linux impact 'fairly limited' Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:43:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3716A3B5.33F5DE42@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <37166F6A.651BA39B@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1895750140340128314==" --===============1895750140340128314== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well... I dont disagree Jerry, However from my perspective (which is quite possibly flawed) is I see Li= nux *rite now* in a kind of push come to shove perdiciment where really for the first t= ime Linux is openly aknowledged to be a competitor with a milti-billion dollar company,= in fact the *only* operating system (unfortunatly) Its a choice- users really want just a few things 1)stability [linux has that] 2)they want to dialup to the web [which untill recently has become a nightmar= e for most linux newbies] 3)they want to browse the web [IMO netscape is really the only choice for an = across the board accepted standard webbrowser *and* it seems to becoming less stable] 4) they want some kind of gui windowing [ you look at K or gnome then the oth= eres such as fwm or icewm and tell me which one "most" users will choose] 5) they want a decent mail reader [which recently in this group has been disc= ussed w/o any real conclusions ie: this one works... what more do you want. It goes bac= k and forth this one does this and that one does that not... I wish this one had this fea= ture...we cant seem to recommend--> *one* *Nice* standard, such as slrn for news. A high percentage of folks arent into the news but all are into mail! and IMO linuxe= s best shot at mail is pine, which only now claims the next version will have a bit of co= lor.Going into the next millenium with a B&W mail reader is *absurd*! Ive spent an embarrassing amount of my time.... trying.... to simply apply a = patch mailed this group, mailed pines group, mailed my lug, even mailed the authors= !!! NADA!!! call me jaded or whatever but I just dont veiw that as progress, or rephrased= -- progress that will keep up with the times. Many folks will just say... nice but... not for me. IOW not taken seroiusly--= for the upcoming masses.Im not suggesting it be for the "masses" but rather a "signif= icant" bunch of enthusiasts who want a *choice* Im not talking about transparent servers. Im talking desktop-- home desktop. = That may not be linuxes target rite now but neverthe less makes a lasting impression o= n those who *try* to welcome it. 6) they want their documents compatible with their associates .doc .xls. Read= ing anything about SO makes my stomach churn... Maybe its ok on the new release. = But I assure you Ive spent more than appropriate time downloading- printing the doc= s- NADA Ive also tried the handicapped version of applixware on 5.3 I no longer bothe= r to install it 7)they want to be able to hook up a printer without jumping thru a million ho= ops. a simple printer! 8) and I think lastly.. they want a CHOICE... a *viable choice* and lets face= it *most* rather than stick it out to the bitter end... would just succumb to ms. Its e= asier to succumb particulalry if its extradanordanillary difficult! speaking for myself, Ive givin linux my best... but have gotten past the poin= t of rtfm or man this and man that.... factually much of linuxes problems if you will, = is its lack of organization with the software writers , distrubuters and lack of *up to d= ate* documentation, whithout having to spend a day finding how to apply one file I could go on and on.. Im sure the group gets my point and there has been di= scussion adinfiniteum regarding Linux being ready for prime time. I suppose its all on= es definition of "prime time" best regards rob Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > dizzy wrote: > > > > yea well ...There seems to be a bit of truth to this statement > > > > "Today the browsers have gotten rich enough that it's not the kind of sof= tware > > that you can develop and test in a university-type of environment," he sa= id. > > > > the next post talks about execs leaving netscape.... > > then we hear about ie being ported to unix [yech] > > > > seems to me that before netscape was bought out by aol we had a chance bu= t in the > > last year or so its been downhill and ie seems to take up the slak. > > One other observation on my part... concidence or not, but the instablity= seemd to > > arise when ns realeased its source-- it dosnt seem the OS programmers goi= ng > > anywhere with it. It just seems to get more resource hungry and less stab= le. > > Dont get me wrong... Ive *never* even used ie!! and I hate to see ns take= a > > downslide which IMO apears to be happening > > rob > > It amazes me how 'down in the mouth' some people get just because Bill > Gates is running around the country shouting "the Linux sky is > falling". Gates isn't and can't do anything to change the future of > Linux. It is not in his hands. Linux isn't like "Netscape", for > example, which had to continually generate income for salaries, overhead > and stock profits competing against M$'s browser without having M$'s > marketing channel and without controlling the OS. Linux hasn't needed > or used any of that. Linux has arrived where it is at today by being a > fast and stable OS that is free, and by word of mouth. Nothing has > changed. Linux will continue to be free no matter what M$ does. It > will continue to be fast and powerful. Even RedHat knows that it's > presence and growth is because of Linux and not the other way around. > Linux will continue to grow, as it has been doing, because it is now a > tested OS that has reached a critical mass. > I view Gate's appearances, and those of his sychophants and FUD > dispensers, as an indication of his/their desperation. More and more > people/companies are realizing how much money can be saved, how much > speed and stability can be achieved using Linux. A business with 30 > servers and 300 workstations can save nearly $500,000 avoiding a single > Windows "upgrade" cycle! That ain't chicken feed. With the advent of > high quality X-clients like KDE (and GNOME, if it ever gets out of > beta), an exploding third party market and EOM/VARs selling PC with > Linux installed, even the computer neophytes will find migrating to > Linux easy. > No need to dispare. "Just dance with the one that brought you to the > dance." > JLK > > -- > > JLK > Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is > right. -- Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1895750140340128314==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Fri Apr 16 03:32:00 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] CNET.com - Software - Business Apps - Office Suites - Open for Business Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:32:00 -0400 Message-ID: <3716AF30.5911A3AA@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3622079192724912045==" --===============3622079192724912045== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 'First look at the released Office 2000....if you care. Fred _____________________ http://home.cnet.c= om/category/topic/0,10000,0-3670-7-278204,00.html?tag=3Ddd.cn.html.0415.02> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3622079192724912045==-- From mcenaney@world.std.com Fri Apr 16 03:40:15 1999 From: mcenaney@world.std.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 & WindowMaker Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:40:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3716B11F.EFD9E65F@world.std.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7292689498300736884==" --===============7292689498300736884== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote: >=20 > I've installed SuSE 6.0 and chose WindowMaker and Bowman as my window > managers. I understand I can start Bowman by typing startx bowman but I > don't know how to start windowmaker. If I type startx wmaker, it just > starts bowman. Have I missed a step somewhere? Yes, there is a wmaker > exe in my /X11R6/bin directory. If you haven't done so yet, run wmaker.inst in your home directory. That will set you up to properly run Windowmaker.=20 --=20 Brendan McEnaney http= ://world/~mcenaney> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7292689498300736884==-- From senthil@easi.soft.net Fri Apr 16 05:48:12 1999 From: senthil@easi.soft.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:18:12 +0530 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4547859199047355695==" --===============4547859199047355695== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I just have a doubt, I couldn't find Celeron Processor in the support database at SuSE site. So I just want to know which version S.u.S.E will support this Processor. Thank you all in advance. Regards, Senthil Vel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4547859199047355695==-- From ales@trend.si Fri Apr 16 07:27:48 1999 From: ales@trend.si To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] smbmount Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:27:48 +0200 Message-ID: <3716E673.9E8E9760@trend.si> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1906017182295601288==" --===============1906017182295601288== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After instaling 2.2.5 kernel on suse 6.0, smbmuont doesn´t work. "Incorect parameter" . Smbclient is working fine. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1906017182295601288==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 16 07:37:15 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:37:15 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5635807640543198820==" --===============5635807640543198820== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, S K SENTHIL VEL wrote: > I just have a doubt, I couldn't find Celeron Processor in the support > database at SuSE site. So I just want to know which version S.u.S.E > will support this Processor. Linux should run without trouble. Maybe the database just hasn't been updated for this processor... Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5635807640543198820==-- From Michael.Salmon@uab.ericsson.se Fri Apr 16 07:37:29 1999 From: Michael.Salmon@uab.ericsson.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Symbolic links vs. hard link Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:37:29 +0200 Message-ID: <199904160737.JAA09665@uabs78c65.uab.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6096406984793191487==" --===============6096406984793191487== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +----- On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:04:20 +0200, "Herbert Stocker HSH[1126]" writes: |=20 | On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Michael Merritt wrote: |=20 | >=20 | > Could a hard link also be referred to as a copy? I know it is not | > technically correct, but I've found it easier to use that to rationalize | > it to people with Windows backgrounds. Also, a soft link can be equated | > to a Windows shortcut -- you can delete the shortcut and the file is | > original file is not affected, but if you remove the original file, the | > shortcut is then broken... | >=20 |=20 |=20 | May be, if you keep in mind, that the difference between a copy and a | hardlink is, that if you edit a copy of a file, you have two different | versions of the file on disk. But if you edit a hard link, also the | "original" is beeing altered. This is, since a hardlinked file exists | only once on the disk, but have two directory entries to get to the data.=20 Whether you have 1 or 2 files after editing depends on you editor. VI=20 for example truncates the file and then rewrites the data hence you=20 have 1 file afterwards, others create a new file and then you have 2.=20 This can be very important when you edit files under /sbin/init.d and=20 is a good reason to use symlinks. /Michael -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6096406984793191487==-- From phil@stokes.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 16 07:43:05 1999 From: phil@stokes.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: color pine- the saga continues Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:43:05 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2154578227761567130==" --===============2154578227761567130== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, dizzy73 wrote: >=20 > In my effort to get a colorised pine it seems that I have to compile from > the source. I got the source from the suse cd #4 and attempted a compile. >=20 > Apparetly there is a pine4.02.dif file that Im not sure where to add it > or what to do with it. LOoking at the files dosent seem to generate any > clues > Ive tried cat pine4.02 >> build no luck > I tired to add it as an argument in the build file where it asks > if arg=3D -f .bld replacing .bld with the diff file no luck You have to copy the diff file to the build directory and use the patch utility to patch the existing source, i.e. patch -p1 http://www.washington.e= du/pine> and get the current version (4.10). That will save you the trouble of patching your source and still ending up with an old version. =20 > the build seems to break at /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld > and an error is -ltermcap cant locate or something to that effect > the last error is where its supposed to create the executables in bin > but it fails on pico & pine however imap and termcap come out To build pine and pico against termcap, I had to alter the STDLIBS entry in the makefiles to show: for pine: STDLIBS=3D/usr/lib/termcap/libtermcap.a and for pico: LIBS=3D$(EXTRALIBES) /usr/lib/termcap/libtermcap.a I prefer to link them to ncurses though, with STDLIBS=3D-lncurses and LIBS=3D$(EXTRALIBES) -lncurses respectively. The files you need to alter are /pine/makefile.lnx and /pico/makefile.lnx ISTR I had to go through the files /osdep/os-lnx.h in the pine and pico directories and tweak a few paths to things such as the maildir and ispell too. Phil --=20 Philip Stokes Email: phil(a)stokes.demon.co.uk Fax: +44 (0)870 164 1242 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2154578227761567130==-- From mha@suse.de Fri Apr 16 07:46:04 1999 From: mha@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:46:04 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4067107180499583197==" --===============4067107180499583197== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, S K SENTHIL VEL wrote: > I just have a doubt, I couldn't find Celeron Processor in the support > database at SuSE site. So I just want to know which version S.u.S.E will > support this Processor. It's still the same ol' X86 architecture, whatever the name... yes, it'll run Linux just fine. --=20 Michael Hasenstein http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/> Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4067107180499583197==-- From awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL Fri Apr 16 07:47:25 1999 From: awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fwd: RHAD Labs announces GNOME 1.0 RPMS for Red Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:47:25 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2180242792928530528==" --===============2180242792928530528== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15-Apr-99 Lenz Grimmer wrote: > Here's a list of packages: >=20 > GNOME core packages for SuSE Linux 6.0 or later. > Applications: > enlight-0.14-11.i386.rpm Lenz, what am I to make of this. I am using enlightenment-0.15.5-100. Is this a typo? Most other things seem reasonably up to date. ------------------------------------- Alexander Volovics Dept of Methodology & Statistics Maastricht University, Maastricht, NL ------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2180242792928530528==-- From Paul.Abraham@infinit.co.uk Fri Apr 16 08:10:02 1999 From: Paul.Abraham@infinit.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:10:02 +0100 Message-ID: <51514A89C9A6D111B5A808002BF1930704AEE2@trafalgar> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ??> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4329212268269313650==" --===============4329212268269313650== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Courtesy CC sent to original sender.] S K SENTHIL VEL wrote on 1999-04-16: > I just have a doubt, I couldn't find Celeron Processor in the support > database at SuSE site. So I just want to know which version S.u.S.E will > support this Processor. I currently run SuSE 5.3 on a Celeron 300, and it runs perfectly. I can't see why all versions of SuSE won't run on a Celeron. Paul Abraham. -- speaking for myself. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4329212268269313650==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 16 08:12:55 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] smbmount Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:12:55 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3716E673.9E8E9760@trend.si> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3365486270105494132==" --===============3365486270105494132== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, [iso-8859-2] Ale=C2=B9 wrote: > After instaling 2.2.5 kernel on suse 6.0, smbmuont doesn=C5=BDt work. > "Incorect parameter" . Smbclient is working fine. Have a look in the smbmount manpage. AFAIK, the syntax has been changed... Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3365486270105494132==-- From Vladislav.Dembskiy@cai.com Fri Apr 16 08:23:01 1999 From: Vladislav.Dembskiy@cai.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Access to MS Exchange box? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:23:01 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6221629240514825339==" --===============6221629240514825339== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All, I use my laptop (Toshiba Tecra 8000, SuSE 6.0/Win98) for access to both SMTP and to MS Exchange. I would like to remove Windows at all but how I can read my corporate mail based an MS Exchange? Does something like Exchange client for Linux exist? Thank you, Vladislav Dembskiy Demvl01(a)cai.com <mailto:Demvl01(a)cai.= com>=20 Vdembskiy(a)csi.com <mailto:Vdembskiy(= a)csi.com>=20 =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6221629240514825339==-- From kick@c2i.net Fri Apr 16 08:41:42 1999 From: kick@c2i.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Linux impact 'fairly limited' Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:41:42 +0200 Message-ID: <199904160826.KAA21984@falk.c2i.net> In-Reply-To: <3716A3B5.33F5DE42@connix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5231451058485219797==" --===============5231451058485219797== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dizzy said in Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Gates calls Linux impact 'fairly=20 limited' at 16/Apr/1999 (Fri) 04:43:01. > Linux *rite > now* in a kind of push come to shove perdiciment where really for the first= =20 > time Linux > is openly aknowledged to be a competitor with a milti-billion dollar=20 > company, in fact > the *only* operating system (unfortunatly) > Its a choice- users really want just a few things Seems to me the that Linux *rite now* is a boom in MicroSoft obsessiveness. Its a disease! Burn all your windows software, format that hard disk space=20 to ext2. Forget it ever existed, before its too late. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5231451058485219797==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Fri Apr 16 08:55:37 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] pg access / postgress not working Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:55:37 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990416085537.00fa90c0@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <000901be8716$c23695a0$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0155484929557182800==" --===============0155484929557182800== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I installed the three packages below. Fired up pgaccess , and only got the pgaccess main screen. Clicling on the varios chioces , nothing happend. there was no data in the pick list ect... I must be missing something. Do you need to first setup/configure postgres ?? How so ?? and do you need to start the "server" each time , or can this be loaded autamaticly like the network services ?? >> > Is there a Linux equivalent of Access? > > Patrick Kirk of Enterprise HR >> If you are running SuSE 6.0 then PostgreSQL-6.4 is probably already >> running. One of the packages on the SuSE CD is pg_iface and another is >> pg_access. Pg_access is a tcl package that looks and runs similar to, >> but not exactly nor as extensive as MS Access. It is very nice >> however. It's query design screen is almost an Access look-a-like.=20 >> Reports, views, scripts, queries, tables, etc. Really nice. Free.=20 >> PostgreSQL is a *very* nice database engine. It would have absolutely >> NO trouble with your 9Kb rows of contacts and 2Kb rows of companies, >> since it has been run with 200GB of data. It has a nice little console >> program called psql, which can be used to work with the db manually >> also. >>=20 >> JLK >> Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is >> right. >>=20 >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0155484929557182800==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Fri Apr 16 09:12:45 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Access to MS Exchange box? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:12:45 +0100 Message-ID: <000201be87e9$4a2a52d0$1900000a@p25> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7286215485329082960==" --===============7286215485329082960== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It depends on how Exchange is set up and what you want to do. My understanding is that there is no full Exchange client other than outlook 97-2000 but if email is all you need, any pop client will do. Gotta say, if email is all its being used for there are much better tools than Exchange. Exchange has an incredibly rich set of offerings but its email service is nothing special. Patrick > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of Dembskiy, Vladislav > Sent: Friday, 16 April 1999 9:23 > To: Suse-Linux-E Mailing List (E-mail) > Subject: [SuSE Linux] Access to MS Exchange box? > > > > Dear All, > > I use my laptop (Toshiba Tecra 8000, SuSE 6.0/Win98) for access > to both SMTP > and to MS Exchange. I would like to remove Windows at all but how > I can read > my corporate mail based an MS Exchange? Does something like > Exchange client > for Linux exist? > > Thank you, > > Vladislav Dembskiy > Demvl01(a)cai.com <mailto:Demvl01(a)ca= i.com> > Vdembskiy(a)csi.com <mailto:Vdembski= y(a)csi.com> > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7286215485329082960==-- From senthil@easi.soft.net Fri Apr 16 09:12:57 1999 From: senthil@easi.soft.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:42:57 +0530 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4942265501552178411==" --===============4942265501552178411== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, S K SENTHIL VEL wrote: >=20 > > I just have a doubt, I couldn't find Celeron Processor in the support > > database at SuSE site. So I just want to know which version S.u.S.E > > will support this Processor. >=20 > Linux should run without trouble. Maybe the database just hasn't been > updated for this processor... >=20 > Bye, > LenZ Hi, Thank you all. Bye, Senthil vel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4942265501552178411==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 16 10:16:44 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: re: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading a SuSE system Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:16:44 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904151955.PAA16159@fh106.infi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1074591976128308462==" --===============1074591976128308462== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 15 Apr 1999, Rick Thompson wrote: > What is this standard that has all source compiled packages installed > in /usr? This is defined in the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS), which you can find at http://www.pathname.com/fhs/> > My preference would be that all programs are installed to the same > location as any default installation of the source...so that those of > us that don't wait for SuSE updates can install over top of existing > installations. This is why source packages default to /usr/local. If you want to create your own package, remove the original RPM and install the new package from scratch under /usr/local. By doing so you make sure, that you do not mess up the original system and still have a distinction between programs belonging to the distribution an manually installed software. Alternatively you can create your own RPMs! It isn't that hard, especially if there already is a source RPM from us. Most of the time, you just have to correct the version number in the spec-file. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1074591976128308462==-- From venrooij@casema.net Fri Apr 16 10:24:59 1999 From: venrooij@casema.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 & WindowMaker Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:24:59 +0200 Message-ID: <37170FFB.603DB49@casema.net> In-Reply-To: <3716B11F.EFD9E65F@world.std.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4565332461307334172==" --===============4565332461307334172== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brendan McEnaney wrote: >=20 > ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote: > > > > I've installed SuSE 6.0 and chose WindowMaker and Bowman as my window > > managers. I understand I can start Bowman by typing startx bowman but I > > don't know how to start windowmaker. If I type startx wmaker, it just > > starts bowman. Have I missed a step somewhere? Yes, there is a wmaker > > exe in my /X11R6/bin directory. >=20 > If you haven't done so yet, run wmaker.inst in your home directory. That > will set you up to properly run Windowmaker. >=20 > -- > Brendan McEnaney > ht= tp://world/~mcenaney> > -- In addition, you should do an 'export WINDOWMANAGER=3Dwmaker' first or add this to your ~/.bashrc. Tim. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4565332461307334172==-- From bestia@unix.forza.de Fri Apr 16 10:32:09 1999 From: bestia@unix.forza.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] problems with pop3 server Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:32:09 +0200 Message-ID: <000901be87f4$61d0dac0$cd73afc2@pr.forza.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3056146931236788994==" --===============3056146931236788994== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a SuSE linux server with ids pop3. When I get messages with mail client like Netscape, Outlook Express, or whatever, there is .lock file creating on /var/spool/mail for a user. Then I have a situation, that I can't check for a new mail, because server responding - Mailbox already in use. How to correct this situation ? thanks Adam Jurkiewicz -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3056146931236788994==-- From adairb@it.postoffice.co.uk Fri Apr 16 10:37:46 1999 From: adairb@it.postoffice.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] wvdial Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:37:46 +0100 Message-ID: <199904161042.LAA20858@igateway.postoffice.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] wvdial> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3448567869440962565==" --===============3448567869440962565== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the help offer. I'm on 5.3 as I'm waiting for 6.1 to come out before upgrading again. I found the library on the suse ftp site as part of the applixware package. This is now on my machine and allowed the rpm to work. I booted, ran wvdialconf and it couldn't find the modem. I then removed diald from yast (in the ppp network setup screen) re-booted and managed to run wvdialconf. I'm now at the state where I can run wvdial and it calls my provider fine - provided I have not started x-windows/kde. Once I start kde wvdial fails with the message "modem not responding".=20 I've tried running wvdial then startx. With this configuration the pppd seems to keep running but I'm not getting any response on pinging the nameserver. Bill > As for kppp. i've been repeatedly advised to avoid kpp, because wvdial is so > simple to use, and is very solid. kppp was in alpha phase of development in > both of the most recent versions of SuSE., and as such still has some bugs. >=20 > I will pass this same advice onto you. Double-check your library requirements, > and get those met first. If you find you're still having trouble with wvdial, > drop me a line and i'll be happy to go through the process with you, as > someone recently did for me. :-) >=20 > -- > islandwolf > "live from the den of ubiquity" >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3448567869440962565==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Fri Apr 16 10:51:25 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Postgress configure/setup from suse distro HOW ?? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:51:25 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990416105125.01354450@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <371664FE.6DAFE7F0@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3038146840008621788==" --===============3038146840008621788== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerry thanks for the info below. Now I am more confused. I installed the three packackages , pgaccess , postgress and pg_iface. ALL form the suse 6.0 distro. However the suse distro changes all the paths and install direcories. This coupled with your statement below refrencing sections 14 and 15 realy have me confuesed. I assume (correct me if I am wronng) that the suse distro install the binary version opf postgress RIGHT ? My postrgess install notes (/doc/packages.postg\res/install) makes refrences to compiling a whole bunch of stuff in sections 14 and 15 Am I missing a set of instructions on how to set up and configure postgress from the suse distrop , as this is diffrent from looking at the files that are in the directories. What need to be done , and how , with which files. I assume that I don't need to recompile , as usualythe suse distros put binaries RIGHT ? If any of you could give simple step by step instructions I would realy appreciate it , as I am realy confused now. Thanks Samy >I'll assume a standard installation for postgres, pgaccess and pg_iface =20 >The documentation for all the packages are in the the appropriate >subdirectory of: > /usr/doc/packages/ >Under it you will find /posgres, /pg_iface, /pgaccess and /mpsql. >Under the postgres directory is the /html directory. Loading the >index.html and selecting the "Installation" URL, you can go to chapter >3, "Installation:. Step 14 and 15 are very important, but rather than >putting the stuff (if the install didn't already do it) in >~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile, put it in /etc/profile. >In /etc/profile you can put >PGLIB=3D/usr/lib/pgsql/lib >PGDATA=3D/var/lib/pgsql/data >export PGLIB >export PGDATA > >in the 'for DIR' loop insert somewhere: > /usr/lib/pgsql/lib \ > /usr/lib/pgsql/bin \ > /var/lib/pgsql/data \ > >These settings let PostgreSQL know here it's libraries were installed >and where the data is located. >If the boot process doesn't already install the PostgreSQL deamon, >postmaster, then you need to fire it up with the -i argument from the >postgres account using: > postmaster -i >>~/server.log 2>&1 & > >The chapter 3 gives other techniques and switches for the postmaster, >especially page 13 which gives a method of installing postmaster via >inittab in a way that causes it to respawn if it get closed down for any >reason. I chose not to use that method. I want to control when it >starts and when it stops. I don't want it running if I am not using it. >Like any good Linux user you will want to read through the documentation >once before you start messing around. Also, once you get it installed, >going through the tutorial, which features psql, is a very good idea.=20 >Also, after installing pgaccess, when you fire it up it will ask for a >hostname, a user name, and a database. If you followed the tutorial >then you already have an account (created from the template1 account) >that contains the 'weather' database and some data in it.=20 >JLK >--=20 > >JLK >Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is >right. >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3038146840008621788==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Fri Apr 16 10:53:20 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] KDE Experience Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:53:20 +0100 Message-ID: <199904161053.LAA16028@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9148937788566983851==" --===============9148937788566983851== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello After last week's kernel compile from hell I thought that I m= ight=20 tempt fate and try for a KDE compile with some snapshots from........ ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/Mirrors/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/snapshots/= > =20 and http://www.kde.org/mirrors.html> I got hold of these URLs after contacting the authors of Kmail. I=20 wrote to them to explain that I thought that Kmail (0.79) was very=20 good. They wrote back and explained that a new version was=20 available. So I thought "might as well have a go". The files that I used were......... kdelibs-990415.tar.bz2 kde= network-990407.tar.bz2 kde= support-990413.tar.bz2 After about an hour of troilling away with the keyboard with=20 ./configure make make install and other things the new KDE was=20 staring me in the face. It looks really good :-) I clicked on the icon that I have created to start Kmail. Does it=20 work ? Does it hell !! I've located the executable in /opt/kde/bin=20 and clicked on that as well. I get about three seconds of the hard=20 drive working and Kmail tries to start. Then, nothing. I suppose if=20 I was using a MS Windows system I could get someone to e-mail a file=20 to me but it's difficult to get out of this one. I've had a look at=20 http= ://buglist.kde.org> and the web form makes a request that bug=20 reports should be longish and to the point. No point in trying that. Thank goodness that I'm using XC Mail and XF Mail with Netscape=20 Mail. =20 Thanks Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9148937788566983851==-- From Michael.Salmon@uab.ericsson.se Fri Apr 16 10:54:45 1999 From: Michael.Salmon@uab.ericsson.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Hi-speed serial ports Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:54:45 +0200 Message-ID: <199904161054.MAA03138@uabs78c65.uab.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <37144BD0.D8A0F9CC@get2net.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4379453106719690077==" --===============4379453106719690077== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +----- On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:03:28 +0200, Michael Andersen writes: |=20 | For use with an external ISDN modem I would like a serial port (just | one) that goes higher than the standard 152000 bps. |=20 | Anyone have experience with the Titan TC-200-5 or TC-200-6 or can | recommend other hi-speed one-port serial cards available in Denmark (or | maybe Europe as a whole). Many standard mother boards include serial ports that can go higher=20 than 115200, some to 460800 and some to 921600. The big problems are=20 that the kernel really doesn't support anything faster than 115200 so=20 you may need to hack serial.c to get what you want. I am using a 16550=20 with a 4x clock and it works but I don't like it's reliability and I=20 think that it is caused by the card dropping bytes. A colleague of mine=20 has a Hayes ESP which has it's own driver and a 1K buffer,=20 unfortunately I haven't been able to find one so that could be a=20 problem for you as well. /Michael -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4379453106719690077==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Fri Apr 16 10:54:46 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] "Network is unreachable" through proxy server Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:54:46 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990416105446.0069c360@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <000001be8817$c6c11300$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0097126358420517869==" --===============0097126358420517869== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable do you have a resolv.conf in /etc?? It seems every time I run yast it wipes mine out for some reason and I need to create a new one . Any Idea why ?? At 03:45 PM 4/16/1999 +0100, you wrote: > >There is no IP_Forward in /etc/rc.config. > >Does this mean I missed out a step? > >Patrick > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On >> Behalf Of Lenz Grimmer >> Sent: Friday, 16 April 1999 14:28 >> To: SuSE Linux Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] "Network is unreachable" through proxy server >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote: >>=20 >> > I have a proxy server with two NICs. One is 10.0.0.2 and the other is >> > 212.19.67.5 >> >=20 >> > Yesterday I put SuSE on a PC with the IP number 10.0.0.25 and now I >> > want it to access the internet. But I always get "Network is >> > unreachable" errors. >> >=20 >> > In desperation I tried ping 10.0.0.2 00acket loss then ping >> > 212.09.67.5 1000acket loss "Network is unreachable" >> >=20 >> > AS both cards are on the same machine I am confused by this. What >> > have I forgotten to do? >>=20 >> Maybe you did not activate IP forwarding? >> Check IP_FORWARD in /etc/rc.config, this must be set to "yes". >>=20 >> Bye, >> LenZ >>=20 >> --=20 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH >> mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 >> http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Ge= rmany >>=20 >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >> Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the >> archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >>=20 >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0097126358420517869==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Fri Apr 16 10:56:57 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WTF!!!! Yahoo article. Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 05:56:57 -0500 Message-ID: <37171779.28B07C47@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <99041511334900.09231@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0992288618581702889==" --===============0992288618581702889== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rimez, Nahhh, if that's what he was talking about it would be silly, cause t= he products are built on the mostly the same technology...he was talking about WindowManagers for Unix...cause if he wasn't then you would have to also include XSun as well..among others... =20 > I figured that Bill was talking about Xfree86, Metro-X, and Accelrated-X. > All are in wide use, though Xfree86 is by far the most common. --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0992288618581702889==-- From KEdmunds@eu.wcom.net Fri Apr 16 11:22:25 1999 From: KEdmunds@eu.wcom.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading a SuSE system Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:22:25 +0100 Message-ID: <61EC0C104A7DD211A29B00805FAD4FBA4BBE47@UKR-EXCH-01> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8889358346732781660==" --===============8889358346732781660== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lenz As the asker of the original question I appreciate you taking the time to explain all of this. However, I think it would be a good idea for SuSE to document this. It is inevitable that some users will want to upgrade some packages (for whatever reason) before SuSE are able to produce their next release. Any chance of this happening? Thanks, Keith > Alternatively you can create your own RPMs! It isn't that=20 > hard, especially > if there already is a source RPM from us. Most of the time,=20 > you just have > to correct the version number in the spec-file. >=20 > Bye, > LenZ >=20 > --=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH > mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 > http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Ger= many >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at=20 > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > archive at=20 > http://www.= suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8889358346732781660==-- From Martijn.van.den.Burg@asml.nl Fri Apr 16 11:39:42 1999 From: Martijn.van.den.Burg@asml.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KDE Experience Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:39:42 +0200 Message-ID: <199904161139.NAA16383@wspub011.asml.nl> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] KDE Experience> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4427287462217669362==" --===============4427287462217669362== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Richard wrote: >=20 > I clicked on the icon that I have created to start Kmail. Does it=20 > work ? Does it hell !! I've located the executable in /opt/kde/bin=20 > and clicked on that as well. I get about three seconds of the hard=20 > drive working and Kmail tries to start. Then, nothing. I suppose if=20 > I was using a MS Windows system I could get someone to e-mail a file=20 > to me but it's difficult to get out of this one. I've had a look at=20 > ht= tp://buglist.kde.org> and the web form makes a request that bug=20 > reports should be longish and to the point. No point in trying that. >=20 > Thank goodness that I'm using XC Mail and XF Mail with Netscape=20 > Mail. =20 >=20 > Thanks >=20 A good thing you can still use " > X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d)". Sorry, couldn't resist that one, it's friday ;-) Martijn =3D Martijn van den Burg =3D Tech writer, archiver, Linux user =3D Publications Department, ASML -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4427287462217669362==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 16 12:09:52 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Star Office crashing Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:09:52 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37161FFB.881D56A2@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5682421839194743992==" --===============5682421839194743992== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, W. Sean McGrath wrote: > Has anyone installed StarOffice 5.0 that came with SUSE 6.0? I > installed it as directed, enetered the appropriate Mediakey, but > whenever I try to create a new text document the entire office crashes > hard, in fact, whenever I try to utilize any feature in Star Office it > crashes hard. >=20 > I have recently upgraded my SUSE 5.3->6.0 and am wondering if that > might be part of `the problem. Several programs that use to work > didn't work until I reinstalled old libaries ... now THEY work but > StarOffice still crashes. Maybe there is a library conflict. Check, if you still have the package "shlibs6", these are the old runtime libs for glibc2 from SuSE 5.3. You can do so by running "rpm -q shlibs6". If it exists, you will be given a version number. Remove it by running "rpm -e shlibs6". Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5682421839194743992==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Fri Apr 16 12:19:10 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] "Network is unreachable" through proxy server Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:19:10 +0100 Message-ID: <000101be8803$55424b40$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4215958184008379547==" --===============4215958184008379547== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I have a proxy server with two NICs. One is 10.0.0.2 and the other is 212.19.67.5 Yesterday I put SuSE on a PC with the IP number 10.0.0.25 and now I want it to access the internet. But I always get "Network is unreachable" errors. In desperation I tried ping 10.0.0.2 00acket loss then ping 212.09.67.5 1000acket loss "Network is unreachable" AS both cards are on the same machine I am confused by this. What have I forgotten to do? Thanks in advance. Patrick Kirk of Enterprise HR Tel: 0044 118 939 1122 Web: http://www.enterprise-hr.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4215958184008379547==-- From Drow@Blazenet.net Fri Apr 16 12:21:01 1999 From: Drow@Blazenet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 & WindowMaker Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:21:01 -0400 Message-ID: <37172B2D.372C32A4@Blazenet.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2874260843361591009==" --===============2874260843361591009== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ljackson(a)techlinks.com wrote: >=20 > I've installed SuSE 6.0 and chose WindowMaker and Bowman as my window > managers. I understand I can start Bowman by typing startx bowman but I > don't know how to start windowmaker. If I type startx wmaker, it just > starts bowman. Have I missed a step somewhere? Yes, there is a wmaker > exe in my /X11R6/bin directory. >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Jackson (Seattle, WA) You have to edit /usr/X11R6/bin/wmlist and add wmaker to the list. --=20 Aduanne Carter Drow(a)Blazenet.net / TrueDrow(a)Netscape.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2874260843361591009==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Fri Apr 16 12:23:10 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KDE Experience Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:23:10 +0100 Message-ID: <199904161223.NAA30852@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199904161139.NAA16383@wspub011.asml.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1053971650920072360==" --===============1053971650920072360== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello On 16 Apr 99, at 13:39, Martijn van den Burg wrote: > A good thing you can still use " > X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 > (v3.01d)". Sorry, couldn't resist that one, it's friday ;-) :-) Did I say anything ? Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1053971650920072360==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 16 12:29:52 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Upgrading a SuSE system Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:29:52 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <61EC0C104A7DD211A29B00805FAD4FBA4BBE47@UKR-EXCH-01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8014380496471580952==" --===============8014380496471580952== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Edmunds, Keith wrote: > As the asker of the original question I appreciate you taking the time to > explain all of this. However, I think it would be a good idea for SuSE to > document this. Building RPMs is already documented in several documents. Just have a look at the RPM HOWTO or "Maximum RPM" (available in PostScript at http://www.r= pm.org>). There is no big difference in building a SuSE RPM, just have a look at our specfiles (contained in the source RPMS), which are the "compiling and packaging instructions" for RPM. We have an SDB article about compiling Source RPMs: http://www.suse.de/sdb/en/h= tml/ke_source-rpm.html> > It is inevitable that some users will want to upgrade some packages > (for whatever reason) before SuSE are able to produce their next > release. Any chance of this happening? Of course you can still install plain source tar-gz-files, if you are eager to upgrade some packages. As I mentioned before, most of the times it is sufficient to adapt the version number in the specfile to build a new RPM... Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8014380496471580952==-- From Drow@Blazenet.net Fri Apr 16 12:33:05 1999 From: Drow@Blazenet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Suse 6.0 and PPP 2.2.X Kernel Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:33:05 -0400 Message-ID: <37172E01.7097B36B@Blazenet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8464235060242096541==" --===============8464235060242096541== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I figured this out a while ago, but wasn't part of the mailing list, so I will share it now in case some don't know. =20 If you are using the 2.2.X Kernel with 6.0, compression is not used with PPP becuase the alias for the compression modules aren't in conf.modules so syslog will complain about not knowing what , ppp-compress-21, ppp-compress-24, and ppp-compress-26 are. To fix add these lines to conf.modules right below where ppp0 and ppp1=20 are aliased: alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate Now you are back in business! --=20 Aduanne Carter Drow(a)Blazenet.net / TrueDrow(a)Netscape.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8464235060242096541==-- From reynald_w@yahoo.com Fri Apr 16 13:10:21 1999 From: reynald_w@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Star Office Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 06:10:21 -0700 Message-ID: <19990416131021.14370.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7309257734052445518==" --===============7309257734052445518== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have SuSE 6.0 installed, and installed Star Office to try it out. I used the media key and got the registration from StarDivision and everything works great. Then I lent the SuSE CD's to my friend so he could install it and try it out as per my suggestion.=20 He wanted to compare WordPerfect and StarOffice, but couldn't find a mirror fast enough that had Star Office on it so he just used the one from the SuSE CD's. Of course, i didn't give him them media key.=20 He contacted Star Division and they actually have him a registration code. But he can't use it because he doesn't have a media key. He's fairly peeved by now and non too impressed by Star Office. Do you need a media key when you download Star Office from the net? I can't remember. Or, is it a crime to give him my media key and he can use his own registration code?=20 Since its at home and he wants today, can someone send me one? Or is he forced to download it? (Which is won't) Thanks for any help. =3D=3D=3D Ren West Software Support Analyst MNet / PSDi Reynald_W(a)yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7309257734052445518==-- From j.vermeulen@hot.A2000.nl Fri Apr 16 13:13:24 1999 From: j.vermeulen@hot.A2000.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Star Office Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:13:24 +0200 Message-ID: <37173774.4B055CC8@hot.A2000.nl> In-Reply-To: <19990416131021.14370.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5428655428331629604==" --===============5428655428331629604== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ren West wrote: > Or, is it a crime to give him my media key and he can use his own registrat= ion code? Why don't you ask StarOffice? That'll settle the matter once and for all. JV -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5428655428331629604==-- From senthil@easi.soft.net Fri Apr 16 13:21:47 1999 From: senthil@easi.soft.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Command not found Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:51:47 +0530 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1744793674125027096==" --===============1744793674125027096== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everybody, I had installed Sybase and I am not able to execute any of the commands. When i say dbisql dbisql: Command not found Also when I say : file dbisql dbisql: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically linked, stripped Also the PATH is set where the executable resides.. Even when I goto the directory which contains the executable and execute ./dbisql, I get the same message, "command not found" Is it problem with the executables or am I missing something that has to be set. Thank you all in advance. Regards, Senthil vel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1744793674125027096==-- From paspartu@uni.net Fri Apr 16 13:24:44 1999 From: paspartu@uni.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] dos long filename Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:24:44 +0200 Message-ID: <99041615355800.00285@kamikazen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0227779098802200792==" --===============0227779098802200792== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just compiled the 2.2.5 kernel on my SuSE6.0. Thanks to the helpful ads on this list I had no problem with it, no printing nor sound problems. I only needed to change few things in /etc/conf.modules and everything went well. But, according to I don't know which law, I have a problem myself, too. It is not related to printing nor to sounds but to long filenames in dos. I used the same kernel configuration as in the compilation of 2.0.36 kernel, with the necessary adjustments. The problem is that when I access a mounted cdrom I cannot get long filenames anymore as I got with 2.0.36 for the same cdrom. I did a /sbin/lsmod and I see the same modules I had with 2.0.36, i.e: Module Size Used by isofs 16440 1 (autoclean) sb 32788 0 (autoclean) uart401 5968 0 (autoclean) [sb] sound 57196 0 (autoclean) [sb uart401] soundcore 2372 5 (autoclean) [sb sound] 3c509 5812 1 (autoclean) dummy0 684 1 (autoclean) nls_iso8859-1 2020 1 (autoclean) nls_cp437 3548 1 (autoclean) vfat 11484 1 (autoclean) fat 25600 1 (autoclean) [vfat]=20 Anyone else got this behaviour? Any suggestion to solve this problem? TIA Maurizio -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0227779098802200792==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 16 13:28:16 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] "Network is unreachable" through proxy server Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:28:16 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000101be8803$55424b40$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7752148540610769126==" --===============7752148540610769126== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote: > I have a proxy server with two NICs. One is 10.0.0.2 and the other is > 212.19.67.5 >=20 > Yesterday I put SuSE on a PC with the IP number 10.0.0.25 and now I > want it to access the internet. But I always get "Network is > unreachable" errors. >=20 > In desperation I tried ping 10.0.0.2 00acket loss then ping > 212.09.67.5 1000acket loss "Network is unreachable" >=20 > AS both cards are on the same machine I am confused by this. What > have I forgotten to do? Maybe you did not activate IP forwarding? Check IP_FORWARD in /etc/rc.config, this must be set to "yes". Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7752148540610769126==-- From WALKERSC@CIBC.CA Fri Apr 16 13:34:00 1999 From: WALKERSC@CIBC.CA To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] "Network is unreachable" through proxy s Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:34:00 -0400 Message-ID: <199904161338.GAA14108@mail.suse.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] "Network is unreachable" through proxy s> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5715785476121027694==" --===============5715785476121027694== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also check the route, maybe your box isn't routing packets across the=20 interfaces. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] "Network is unreachable" through proxy serv Author: "Lenz Grimmer" [SMTP:grimmer(a)suse.de] at BCEEXCH Date: 4/16/99 9:28 AM Hi, =20 On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote: =20 > I have a proxy server with two NICs. One is 10.0.0.2 and the other is=20 > 212.19.67.5 > > Yesterday I put SuSE on a PC with the IP number 10.0.0.25 and now I=20 > want it to access the internet. But I always get "Network is > unreachable" errors. > > In desperation I tried ping 10.0.0.2 00acket loss then ping=20 > 212.09.67.5 1000acket loss "Network is unreachable" > > AS both cards are on the same machine I am confused by this. What=20 > have I forgotten to do? =20 Maybe you did not activate IP forwarding? Check IP_FORWARD in /etc/rc.config, this must be set to "yes". =20 Bye, LenZ =20 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH=20 mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10=20 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with=20 this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the=20 archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5715785476121027694==-- From xsusex@hotmail.com Fri Apr 16 13:41:02 1999 From: xsusex@hotmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 06:41:02 -0700 Message-ID: <19990416134103.318.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ??> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8578237577164796475==" --===============8578237577164796475== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It runs perfectly. In fact, I have a dual celeron setup and it's been extremely stable. >From: Lenz Grimmer >To: SuSE Linux Mailing List >Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? >Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:37:15 +0200 (MEST) > > >Hi, > >On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, S K SENTHIL VEL wrote: > >> I just have a doubt, I couldn't find Celeron Processor in the support >> database at SuSE site. So I just want to know which version S.u.S.E >> will support this Processor. > >Linux should run without trouble. Maybe the database just hasn't been >updated for this processor... > >Bye, > LenZ > >--=20 >------------------------------------------------------------------ > Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH > mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 > http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germ= any > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8578237577164796475==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 16 13:42:21 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: gncore missing from suse/gnome rpms Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:42:21 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3639034693841334731==" --===============3639034693841334731== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I also forward this answer to the mailing-list, since it might be interesting for other upgraders as well :) I hope, you don't mind. On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Henry Harpending wrote: > I have a standard suse 6 installation. I downloaded the new gnome 1.0 > rpms and support files from your update ftp site. >=20 > Installation failed with the statement that I needed gncore and > something else, a cd player I gather, the name of which I can't > remember. gncore is now also on the ftp-Server and should be propagated to the other ftp-Servers soon. Sorry for the inconvenience... As soon as all the mirrors have caught up, we will also make an official announcement. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3639034693841334731==-- From hajo@mindspring.com Fri Apr 16 13:43:48 1999 From: hajo@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Access to MS Exchange box? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:43:48 -0500 Message-ID: <37173E94.874CDF12@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5274610729564956638==" --===============5274610729564956638== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Dembskiy, Vladislav" wrote: >=20 > Dear All, >=20 > I use my laptop (Toshiba Tecra 8000, SuSE 6.0/Win98) for access to both SMTP > and to MS Exchange. I would like to remove Windows at all but how I can read > my corporate mail based an MS Exchange? Does something like Exchange client > for Linux exist? >=20 > Thank you, >=20 > Vladislav Dembskiy > Demvl01(a)cai.com <mailto:Demvl01(a)ca= i.com> > Vdembskiy(a)csi.com <mailto:Vdembski= y(a)csi.com> I don't think so. When I was in the same situation (Working a contract) I let told the exchange admin to forward all my mail to my internet address. Hajo -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5274610729564956638==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 16 13:59:23 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] GNOME 1.0 and SuSE 5.3 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:59:23 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904151229.OAA02666@degas.telebyte.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4931408180310914169==" --===============4931408180310914169== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Dushi wrote: > I was so anxious to instaal GNOME 1.0 on my 5.3 system that althought > it was stated the rpm's where for SuSE 6.0 I went ahead and installed > them anyway. Ofcourse I had to install a lot of 6.0 rpm's first. After > three days my system was a mess, and I had to reinstall 5.3 from > scratch. >=20 > My question is: Is there any way to install these Gnome 1.0 on my 5.3 > system? Doe sanyone know when there will be a 5.3 version ? Or maybe I > missed something and there is already a 5.3 version. AFAIK, it is not possible anymore to compile the recent GNOME versions on a libc5 system. Even though S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3 was capable of running glibc2 binaries, I doubt that this will work with the current RPMs. Sorry! Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4931408180310914169==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 16 14:33:37 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] dos long filename Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:33:37 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99041615355800.00285@kamikazen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2523145804259389679==" --===============2523145804259389679== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Maurizio Firmani wrote: > I just compiled the 2.2.5 kernel on my SuSE6.0. Thanks to the helpful > ads on this list I had no problem with it, no printing nor sound > problems. I only needed to change few things in /etc/conf.modules and > everything went well. But, according to I don't know which law, I have > a problem myself, too. It is not related to printing nor to sounds but > to long filenames in dos. I used the same kernel configuration as in > the compilation of 2.0.36 kernel, with the necessary adjustments. The > problem is that when I access a mounted cdrom I cannot get long > filenames anymore as I got with 2.0.36 for the same cdrom. I did a > /sbin/lsmod and I see the same modules I had with 2.0.36, i.e: > > Module Size Used by > isofs 16440 1 (autoclean) > sb 32788 0 (autoclean) > uart401 5968 0 (autoclean) [sb] > sound 57196 0 (autoclean) [sb uart401] > soundcore 2372 5 (autoclean) [sb sound] > 3c509 5812 1 (autoclean) > dummy0 684 1 (autoclean) > nls_iso8859-1 2020 1 (autoclean) > nls_cp437 3548 1 (autoclean) > vfat 11484 1 (autoclean) > fat 25600 1 (autoclean) [vfat]=20 >=20 > Anyone else got this behaviour? Any suggestion to solve this problem? Hmm, did you activate Joliet extensions?=20 Microsoft Joliet cdrom extensions CONFIG_JOLIET Joliet is a Microsoft extension for the ISO 9660 CDROM filesystem which allows for long filenames in unicode format (unicode is the new 16 bit character code, successor to ASCII, which encodes the characters of almost all languages of the world; see ht= tp://www.unicode.org> for more information; to browse the WWW, you need to have access to a machine on the Internet that has a program like lynx or netscape). Say Y here if you want to be able to read Joliet CDROMs under Linux. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2523145804259389679==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Fri Apr 16 14:45:31 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] "Network is unreachable" through proxy server Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:45:31 +0100 Message-ID: <000001be8817$c6c11300$1900000a@p25> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7715690370076279468==" --===============7715690370076279468== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is no IP_Forward in /etc/rc.config. Does this mean I missed out a step? Patrick > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of Lenz Grimmer > Sent: Friday, 16 April 1999 14:28 > To: SuSE Linux Mailing List > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] "Network is unreachable" through proxy server >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote: >=20 > > I have a proxy server with two NICs. One is 10.0.0.2 and the other is > > 212.19.67.5 > >=20 > > Yesterday I put SuSE on a PC with the IP number 10.0.0.25 and now I > > want it to access the internet. But I always get "Network is > > unreachable" errors. > >=20 > > In desperation I tried ping 10.0.0.2 00acket loss then ping > > 212.09.67.5 1000acket loss "Network is unreachable" > >=20 > > AS both cards are on the same machine I am confused by this. What > > have I forgotten to do? >=20 > Maybe you did not activate IP forwarding? > Check IP_FORWARD in /etc/rc.config, this must be set to "yes". >=20 > Bye, > LenZ >=20 > --=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH > mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 > http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Ger= many >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7715690370076279468==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 16 14:47:22 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] gnome current rpms at ftp.suse.com Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:47:22 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904150513.WAA11412@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3808809746972779645==" --===============3808809746972779645== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Michael Perry wrote: > What are the 1.0.x level rpm's I see at the ftp site? I see a lot of > relatively recent rpm files for gnome but unfortunately these do not > play with well with the ones that Jan was doing... :(. Are these rpm > packages that come with suse 6.1 or will we begin to see rpm releases > of these types of programs occuring more frequently? We attempt to have updated GNOME packages on the ftp-Server in a similar manner to the KDE packages. > I am hoping that SuSE sees that maintaining rpm packages for the newer > environments like gnome bode well for all of us. In any case, many > thanks for this recent addition to the ftp site. You're welcome. Enjoy! LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3808809746972779645==-- From nhasan@usa.net Fri Apr 16 15:01:48 1999 From: nhasan@usa.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Apache Update? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:01:48 -0400 Message-ID: <371750DC.BA24A235@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5619600477757446219==" --===============5619600477757446219== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Is Apache 1.3.6 update available on SuSE FTP? If yes, where? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5619600477757446219==-- From snapek@yahoo.com Fri Apr 16 15:16:19 1999 From: snapek@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kernel Upgrade Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:16:19 -0700 Message-ID: <19990416151619.25051.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2822704434130665227==" --===============2822704434130665227== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've posted previous messges in this forum concerning my many myriad of problems with SuSE, all of my own design due to hardware problems. I wanted to ask if anyone knew if it was possible to find a patch for 2.0.35 to 2.2.x (the one AFTER the Samsung IDE Cdrom bug was fixed). If this rings a bell with anyone, or they know what I'm talking about, let me know wouldja! :) Thanks, Keith _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2822704434130665227==-- From mantel@suse.de Fri Apr 16 15:16:23 1999 From: mantel@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: "Network is unreachable" through proxy server Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:16:23 +0200 Message-ID: <19990416171623.K5108@suse.de> In-Reply-To: <000101be8803$55424b40$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8950961064313328598==" --===============8950961064313328598== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, Apr 16, Patrick Kirk wrote: > I have a proxy server with two NICs. One is 10.0.0.2 and the other is > 212.19.67.5 >=20 > Yesterday I put SuSE on a PC with the IP number 10.0.0.25 and now I want it > to access the internet. But I always get "Network is unreachable" errors. >=20 > In desperation I tried ping 10.0.0.2 00acket loss Fine. > then ping 212.09.67.5 1000acket loss "Network is unreachable" >=20 > AS both cards are on the same machine I am confused by this. What have I > forgotten to do? I assume you forgot to setup the default gateway. Try the following: route add default gw 10.0.0.2 > Thanks in advance. >=20 >=20 > Patrick Kirk of Enterprise HR -o) Hubert Mantel Goodbye, dots... /\\ _\_v -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8950961064313328598==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 16 15:16:26 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] "Network is unreachable" through proxy server Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:16:26 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000001be8817$c6c11300$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8240175157393208687==" --===============8240175157393208687== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote: > There is no IP_Forward in /etc/rc.config. > Does this mean I missed out a step? Not necessarily. BTW: Which distribution and kernel are you running? There is a special entry in the /proc Filesystem which enables this kernel feature (/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward). If you "cat" this file, it should read "1". If not, you may try to add the following to /sbin/init.d/boot: # # Enable IP forwarding ? # if test -e /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward -a -n "$IP_FORWARD" ; then ECHO_RETURN=3D$rc_done case $IP_FORWARD in yes) echo -n "Enabling IP forwarding" echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward || ECHO_RETURN=3D$rc_failed ;; *) echo -n "Disabling IP forwarding" echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward || ECHO_RETURN=3D$rc_failed ;; esac echo -e "$ECHO_RETURN" fi in addition to that, add the following block to /etc/rc.config: # # you can configure at runtime, if the host may forward # IP packages or not. Is this host a router? (yes/no) # IP_FORWARD=3Dno HTH, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8240175157393208687==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Fri Apr 16 15:36:17 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] RE: "Network is unreachable" SOLVED Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:36:17 +0100 Message-ID: <000101be881e$de737ea0$1900000a@p25> In-Reply-To: <19990416171623.K5108@suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7296162913787381318==" --===============7296162913787381318== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Hubert's suggestion of "route add default gw 10.0.0.2" fixed it. Thanks everyone for taking the time. Patrick > -----Original Message----- > From: Hubert Mantel [mailto:mantel(a)su= se.de] > Sent: Friday, 16 April 1999 16:16 > To: Patrick Kirk > Cc: Suse-Linux-E > Subject: Re: "Network is unreachable" through proxy server >=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Fri, Apr 16, Patrick Kirk wrote: >=20 > > I have a proxy server with two NICs. One is 10.0.0.2 and the other is > > 212.19.67.5 > >=20 > > Yesterday I put SuSE on a PC with the IP number 10.0.0.25 and=20 > now I want it > > to access the internet. But I always get "Network is=20 > unreachable" errors. > >=20 > > In desperation I tried ping 10.0.0.2 00acket loss >=20 > Fine. >=20 > > then ping 212.09.67.5 1000acket loss "Network is unreachable" > >=20 > > AS both cards are on the same machine I am confused by this. =20 > What have I > > forgotten to do? >=20 > I assume you forgot to setup the default gateway. Try the following: >=20 > route add default gw 10.0.0.2 >=20 > > Thanks in advance. > >=20 > >=20 > > Patrick Kirk of Enterprise HR > -o) > Hubert Mantel Goodbye, dots... /\\ > _\_v >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7296162913787381318==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Fri Apr 16 15:48:28 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Getting there...now for KDE Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:48:28 +0100 Message-ID: <000201be8820$92575300$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7756745055300071722==" --===============7756745055300071722== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Well, SuSE 5.2 is now installed and running. KDE .9 comes with it so naturally I now am preparing to go to KDE 1.1. Do you recommend I remove 0.9 first? Also, do I need to remove and reinstall Qt? Advice and war stories that a newbie would understand appreciated. Thanks. Patrick Kirk of Enterprise HR Tel: 0044 118 939 1122 Web: http://www.enterprise-hr.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7756745055300071722==-- From EzMan@cableinet.co.uk Fri Apr 16 16:12:00 1999 From: EzMan@cableinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Access to MS Exchange box? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:12:00 +0100 Message-ID: <37176150.867CDACD@cableinet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <000201be87e9$4a2a52d0$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0870731292583624728==" --===============0870731292583624728== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if i understand correctly, he can't use another client because exchange is his corporate mail system have you tried using msmail as your client, running under wine? 16-bit ms mail should work - i'll give it a go and tell you how i get on... Patrick Kirk wrote: > It depends on how Exchange is set up and what you want to do. My > understanding is that there is no full Exchange client other than outlook > 97-2000 but if email is all you need, any pop client will do. > > Gotta say, if email is all its being used for there are much better tools > than Exchange. Exchange has an incredibly rich set of offerings but its > email service is nothing special. > > Patrick > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > > Behalf Of Dembskiy, Vladislav > > Sent: Friday, 16 April 1999 9:23 > > To: Suse-Linux-E Mailing List (E-mail) > > Subject: [SuSE Linux] Access to MS Exchange box? > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > I use my laptop (Toshiba Tecra 8000, SuSE 6.0/Win98) for access > > to both SMTP > > and to MS Exchange. I would like to remove Windows at all but how > > I can read > > my corporate mail based an MS Exchange? Does something like > > Exchange client > > for Linux exist? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Vladislav Dembskiy > > Demvl01(a)cai.com <mailto:Demvl01(a)= cai.com> > > Vdembskiy(a)csi.com <mailto:Vdembs= kiy(a)csi.com> > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/S= upport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Messageboard -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- http:= //wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/a.fleming/ubb/cgi/Ultimate.cgi> http://www.ezman.ddns.org/> http://come.to/ezboard> -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0870731292583624728==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 16 16:14:35 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] "Network is unreachable" through proxy server Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:14:35 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] "Network is unreachable" through proxy server> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5679395214114418894==" --===============5679395214114418894== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote: > route add default gw 10.0.0.2 fixed the problem. Oh, ok. I should have checked that first :) > Thanks for taking the time. You're welcome. > I installed SuSE 5.2 yesterday. Its not easy but no worse than > installing NT Server. At least it didn't just hang during setup which > is the nightmare I had first time I tried NT. >=20 > Do you thank I should buy SuSE 6 or wait for a version with the 2.2 > kernel? Take your time - I recommend to wait for 6.1. It'll be a great distribution ;) Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5679395214114418894==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Apr 16 16:19:17 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Getting there...now for KDE Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:19:17 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000201be8820$92575300$1900000a@p25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0985329639812583203==" --===============0985329639812583203== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote: > Well, SuSE 5.2 is now installed and running. KDE .9 comes with it so > naturally I now am preparing to go to KDE 1.1. >=20 > Do you recommend I remove 0.9 first? Also, do I need to remove and > reinstall Qt? >=20 > Advice and war stories that a newbie would understand appreciated. It's alway a good advice to remove the original RPMs before installing the same package from source. If you want to upgrade KDE, you also need to upgrade Qt to a recent version. I assume, the version on SuSE Linux 5.2 is too old for KDE 1.1... Good luck! LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0985329639812583203==-- From imm@KidsCare.Net Fri Apr 16 16:29:39 1999 From: imm@KidsCare.Net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] Getting there...now for KDE Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:29:39 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9216397539780623986==" --===============9216397539780623986== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable grimmer(a)suse.de writes: >It's alway a good advice to remove the original RPMs before installing the >same package from source. If you want to upgrade KDE, you also need to >upgrade Qt to a recent version. I assume, the version on SuSE Linux 5.2 is >too old for KDE 1.1... What about upgrading kde 1.0 to 1.1 via YaST do you recommend uninstalling 1.0 and then=20 starting fresh with all the new packages or does it matter. Ian -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9216397539780623986==-- From ke@suse.de Fri Apr 16 17:02:27 1999 From: ke@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Postgress configure/setup from suse distro HOW ?? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:02:27 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990416105125.01354450@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1894992023729636723==" --===============1894992023729636723== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Samy Elashmawy writes: | Jerry thanks for the info below. Now I am more confused. | =20 | I installed the three packackages , pgaccess , postgress and pg_iface. | ALL form the suse 6.0 distro. If you do want an initial database, please install pg_datab as well. | However the suse distro changes all the paths and install | direcories. On SuSE Linux, the whole PostgreSQL environment live under /usr/lib/pgsql -- on request by customers, BTW ;-) And I think, that's a good idea. After installing the packages run rcpostgres start as root. Then, from the root account login as the user "postgres"; simply issue an su - postgres Please note the "-" (dash) to get a login shell; this way the postgres profile fragments at /etc/profile.d/postgres* will be sourced. As postgres, create users which should be able to manage databases: createuser etc. Login as this user (login shell) an use one of the available interfaces; start with "createdb". | >~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile, put it in /etc/profile. | >In /etc/profile you can put | >PGLIB=3D/usr/lib/pgsql/lib | >PGDATA=3D/var/lib/pgsql/data | >export PGLIB | >export PGDATA Not need to do this; you'll find profile fragments at the above mentioned place, that are source by /etc/profile --=20 Karl Eichwalder -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1894992023729636723==-- From snapek@yahoo.com Fri Apr 16 18:06:10 1999 From: snapek@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Linux/Win95! Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:06:10 -0700 Message-ID: <19990416180611.25668.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1513818915692117569==" --===============1513818915692117569== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Recently, I've been playing with a friends system, trying to get a stable companionship (hypocritical I know!) of Linux and Win95 in seperate partitions on the same drive. Each, and every time I attempt this, windows becomes selfish, and realizes its not alone.=20 I dont know how or why it happens, but it starts to be "Unable to find sector x", where x is most often 0,1,or another basic sector of the drive. I have gone through the headaches of making sure both the / for linux, and basic Win95 are under the 1024 cylinder?sector?whatever? limit, and both boot fine from Lilo. I've also attempted to use VMware to run Win95 on a virtual machine. Now although VM says that the min specs are PII266/64MB/etc (those where guesses), and my friend has a PII400/128MB, the virtual machine makes a lame donkey look fast! Even allocating 100 MB of physical RAM, and 100 of swap, alters the speed of it negligably. And to top that, I'm not sure how to access the cdrom (quite neccesary to install an OS, wouldnt you think?! :) ), through the virtual image.=20 The atapi driver included with the CDROM seems to try to punch a whole through the image, in an attempt to get to the cdrom (amusing anology, or at least I thought), and in doing so, causes a couple of dozen segmentation faults. Personally, I could live without ever touching a microsoft product again in my life, but it would be nice to play some games/programs requiring DirectX (which Wine hasn't quite conquered yet). If there is anyone who get this message, who has "war stories", possibly helpful information, an exact science of fruitless labor, or knows someone who can help, could you let me know/foreward the message/send prayers my way? :) I'd like to actually prove to myself, and my friend that it IS possible! :) Thanks,=20 Keith Snape _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1513818915692117569==-- From rthompson@motleypc.com Fri Apr 16 18:47:31 1999 From: rthompson@motleypc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: re: Re: [SuSE Linux] GNOME 1.0 and SuSE 5.3 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:47:31 -0800 Message-ID: <199904161445.KAA28948@fh106.infi.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0999388588805948945==" --===============0999388588805948945== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know somebody running the very latest gnome builds on a 5.3 system still ru= nning libc5. I can have him send you guys instructions if you like (or maybe= he can come by since he is stationed on a Air Force base in Germany). ;-) Rick Thompson > ** Original Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] GNOME 1.0 and SuSE 5.3 > ** Original Sender: Lenz Grimmer > ** Original Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:59:23 +0200 (MEST) > ** Original Message follows...=20 > > Hi, >=20 > On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Dushi wrote: >=20 > > I was so anxious to instaal GNOME 1.0 on my 5.3 system that althought > > it was stated the rpm's where for SuSE 6.0 I went ahead and installed > > them anyway. Ofcourse I had to install a lot of 6.0 rpm's first. After > > three days my system was a mess, and I had to reinstall 5.3 from > > scratch. > >=20 > > My question is: Is there any way to install these Gnome 1.0 on my 5.3 > > system? Doe sanyone know when there will be a 5.3 version ? Or maybe I > > missed something and there is already a 5.3 version. >=20 > AFAIK, it is not possible anymore to compile the recent GNOME versions on > a libc5 system. Even though S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3 was capable of running > glibc2 binaries, I doubt that this will work with the current RPMs. Sorry! >=20 >=20 > Bye, > LenZ >=20 > --=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH > mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 > http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Ger= many >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** >=20 Download Neoplanet at http://www.neoplanet.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0999388588805948945==-- From mistrM@gtemail.net Fri Apr 16 18:50:08 1999 From: mistrM@gtemail.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux/Win95! Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:50:08 -0700 Message-ID: <000801be8839$f3568680$ad22fea9@M.flashcom.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Linux/Win95!> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8881153702908122325==" --===============8881153702908122325== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I suggest trying a program called System Commader Deluxe. http://w= ww.v-com.com> It's a boot manager. It works well keeping Win* in control. I have used it with great success and know several people that have multiple OSes on the same HD (Linux, Windoze, FreeBSD, ect.) using this program. Mario >Recently, I've been playing with a friends system, >trying to get a stable companionship (hypocritical I >know!) of Linux and Win95 in seperate partitions on >the same drive -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8881153702908122325==-- From ttwkam@yahoo.com Fri Apr 16 19:16:23 1999 From: ttwkam@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] "Network is unreachable" through proxy server Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:16:23 -0700 Message-ID: <19990416191623.21530.rocketmail@web603.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] "Network is unreachable" through proxy server> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6645414197939278740==" --===============6645414197939278740== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is your proxy server configured correctly? Looks like the proxy is blocking your IP requests. Are you setting up a firewall on your gateway NIC? If so, you don't want IP forwarding turned on. I recommend you downloading TIS toolkit. --- Samy Elashmawy wrote: >=20 > do you have a resolv.conf in /etc?? > It seems every time I run yast it wipes mine out for > some reason and I need > to create a new one . >=20 > Any Idea why ?? >=20 >=20 > At 03:45 PM 4/16/1999 +0100, you wrote: > > > >There is no IP_Forward in /etc/rc.config. > > > >Does this mean I missed out a step? > > > >Patrick > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > [mailto:owner-suse-linu= x-e(a)suse.com]On > >> Behalf Of Lenz Grimmer > >> Sent: Friday, 16 April 1999 14:28 > >> To: SuSE Linux Mailing List > >> Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] "Network is > unreachable" through proxy server > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> Hi, > >>=20 > >> On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote: > >>=20 > >> > I have a proxy server with two NICs. One is > 10.0.0.2 and the other is > >> > 212.19.67.5 > >> >=20 > >> > Yesterday I put SuSE on a PC with the IP number > 10.0.0.25 and now I > >> > want it to access the internet. But I always > get "Network is > >> > unreachable" errors. > >> >=20 > >> > In desperation I tried ping 10.0.0.2 00acket > loss then ping > >> > 212.09.67.5 1000acket loss "Network is > unreachable" > >> >=20 > >> > AS both cards are on the same machine I am > confused by this. What > >> > have I forgotten to do? > >>=20 > >> Maybe you did not activate IP forwarding? > >> Check IP_FORWARD in /etc/rc.config, this must be > set to "yes". > >>=20 > >> Bye, > >> LenZ > >>=20 > >> --=20 > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Lenz Grimmer =20 > SuSE GmbH > >> mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = =20 > Schanzaeckerstr. 10 > >> http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 > Nuernberg, Germany > >>=20 > >> -- > >> To get out of this list, please send email to > majordomo(a)suse.com with > >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >> Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > >> archive at > http://www.= suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > >>=20 > >-- > >To get out of this list, please send email to > majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > >archive at > http://www.= suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to > majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > archive at > http://www.= suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 =3D=3D=3D Regards, Ted _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6645414197939278740==-- From Drow@Blazenet.net Fri Apr 16 19:41:01 1999 From: Drow@Blazenet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux/Win95! Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:41:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3717924D.C4C7F85@Blazenet.net> In-Reply-To: <19990416180611.25668.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4141658152504814487==" --===============4141658152504814487== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Keith Snape wrote: >=20 > Recently, I've been playing with a friends system, > trying to get a stable companionship (hypocritical I > know!) of Linux and Win95 in seperate partitions on > the same drive. Each, and every time I attempt this, > windows becomes selfish, and realizes its not alone. > I dont know how or why it happens, but it starts to be > "Unable to find sector x", where x is most often > 0,1,or another basic sector of the drive. I have gone > through the headaches of making sure both the / for > linux, and basic Win95 are under the 1024 > cylinder?sector?whatever? limit, and both boot fine > from Lilo. I dual boot with lilo with 98,( for games!! ha ha ), and have never had something like this happen. Here are my GUESSES.=20 1) bad disk 2) you have lilo installed in the mbr and windows doesn't like it. if this is the case try a set up like mine: /dev/hda1 Win98 C: (Primary Partition) /dev/hda2 Linux / (Primary Partition) doesn't matter if rest of partitions are in extended or not.... install lilo in the boot record of the root partition not the mbr to get rid of lilo out of the mbr you can run fdisk /mbr from a win95 boot disk. 3) you used fdisk from dos to set up your win partition and fdisk from=20 linux to setup your linux partitions, and they saw your disk geometry differently. to eliminate this i use partition magic to setup all my partitions prior to installing either system. --=20 Aduanne Carter Drow(a)Blazenet.net / TrueDrow(a)Netscape.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4141658152504814487==-- From tux@datapro.co.za Fri Apr 16 19:46:33 1999 From: tux@datapro.co.za To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Access to MS Exchange box? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:46:33 +0200 Message-ID: <19990416214633.A1098@datapro.co.za> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4010043524704750315==" --===============4010043524704750315== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 09:23:01AM +0100, Dembskiy, Vladislav wrote: =20 > I use my laptop (Toshiba Tecra 8000, SuSE 6.0/Win98) for access to both SMTP > and to MS Exchange. I would like to remove Windows at all but how I can read > my corporate mail based an MS Exchange? Does something like Exchange client > for Linux exist? t as far as I know. However if Exchange is configured to allow it you can retrieve mail from it with POP3 or IMAP4. --=20 Steve Crane stevec(a)netlane.com http://www.datapro.co.za/~stevec> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4010043524704750315==-- From venrooij@casema.net Fri Apr 16 19:47:59 1999 From: venrooij@casema.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux/Win95! Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:47:59 +0200 Message-ID: <371793EF.16C8AC04@casema.net> In-Reply-To: <19990416180611.25668.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6607299310803408523==" --===============6607299310803408523== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, I have been running both Win95 and Linux from a single hard disk for quite a few months now. I am sorry to admit that I don't really know what is wrong in the case you are describing. Anyway, this is what I did: I used fips to repartition my hard drive and linux fdisk to destroy the new dos partition and create a Linux Native (/dev/hda3) and a Linux Swap (/dev/hda4) partition from it. Hereafter, Windoze was apparently unaware of the removal of 1 GB from the C:\ drive. If I remember correctly, Win95 should be (demands to be) installed on the first primary partition of the first hard drive, i.e. C:\ =3D /dev/hda1 or /dev/sda1. I suppose this should be the activated partition as well. Oh, I did not install LILO on the hard drive. Instead I use a LILO bootdisk which suits me just fine. I hope this helps, Tim. Keith Snape wrote: > Recently, I've been playing with a friends system, > trying to get a stable companionship (hypocritical I > know!) of Linux and Win95 in seperate partitions on > the same drive. Each, and every time I attempt this, > windows becomes selfish, and realizes its not alone. > I dont know how or why it happens, but it starts to be > "Unable to find sector x", where x is most often > 0,1,or another basic sector of the drive. I have gone > through the headaches of making sure both the / for > linux, and basic Win95 are under the 1024 > cylinder?sector?whatever? limit, and both boot fine > from Lilo. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6607299310803408523==-- From iwojima@hotbot.com Fri Apr 16 20:02:26 1999 From: iwojima@hotbot.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] tar Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:02:26 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1208809763743163923==" --===============1208809763743163923== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anybody knows what I'm missing here. I downloaded a tar file yesterday a= nd untar it, but when I run make this is the error msg: No rule to make tar i= nstall. This was wmppp-1.3.0.tar.q. The method I used was zcat filename | tar= -xf-. Thanks HotBot - Search smarter. http:/= /www.hotbot.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1208809763743163923==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Fri Apr 16 20:30:41 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Key executives plan to leave Netscape Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:30:41 -0500 Message-ID: <37179DF1.4DB81100@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3716A101.752B1624@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3233930682751868222==" --===============3233930682751868222== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ben Rosenberg wrote: >=20 > Jerry, >=20 > Wooden Stake for Vampires and Silver Bullets for Werewolves..are we > gonna have to send you back to Marvel Comics 101 *grin* ... >=20 > But, Linus created the silver bullet that hit the > > heart of the blood-sucking vampire... the message just hasn't traveled > > all the way to the brain yet. >=20 > -- > Ben Rosenberg > mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net > "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " I had in mind that move starting Gary Bussey and a kid in a wheel chair. In the final scenes the kid drops the silver bullet.... Oh, your right. The villian was a werewolf! Never mind... '-) --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3233930682751868222==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Fri Apr 16 20:55:22 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Command not found Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:55:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3717A3BA.A08CAE93@navix.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5171690210568723435==" --===============5171690210568723435== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable S K SENTHIL VEL wrote: >=20 > Hi Everybody, >=20 > I had installed Sybase and I am not able to execute any of the commands. > When i say dbisql >=20 > dbisql: Command not found >=20 > Also when I say : >=20 > file dbisql > dbisql: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically > linked, stripped >=20 > Also the PATH is set where the executable resides.. Even when I goto the > directory which contains the executable and execute ./dbisql, I get the > same message, "command not found" >=20 > Is it problem with the executables or am I missing something that has to > be set. >=20 > Thank you all in advance. >=20 > Regards, > Senthil vel >=20 I installed Sybase following the installation instructions and it went smoothly. The first time I logged in as user 'sybase' the true installation program, sybint, started automatically. I followed the mult-layered set of instructions carefully. Then, following instructions, I logged out and then logged in as user sybase again. I did that, then I issued the command:=20 isql -Usa -P and got the '>" prompt. I followed the installation script from there and got the results the script said I would. The demo tables loaded with names of books displayed. I was able to dump the db and back it up. =20 Sybase keeps track of its progress in logs found under ../sybase/init/logs. The log files are named 'logmmdd.nnn'. My first log was log0308.001. When I logged out and logged in again a log named log0308.002 was created. =20 Were you able to go all the way through the 'sybint' script and log in using 'isql -Usa -P' ??? JLK --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5171690210568723435==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Fri Apr 16 21:00:51 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Postgress configure/setup from suse distro HOW ?? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:00:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3717A503.EDFDCB0B@navix.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7849837095345039747==" --===============7849837095345039747== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Karl Eichwalder wrote: >=20 > Samy Elashmawy writes: >=20 > | Jerry thanks for the info below. Now I am more confused. > | > | I installed the three packackages , pgaccess , postgress and pg_iface. > | ALL form the suse 6.0 distro. >=20 > If you do want an initial database, please install pg_datab as well. Thanks, Karl, I forgot to tell him about that one! >=20 > | However the suse distro changes all the paths and install > | direcories. >=20 > On SuSE Linux, the whole PostgreSQL environment live under > /usr/lib/pgsql -- on request by customers, BTW ;-) And I think, that's a > good idea. >=20 > After installing the packages run >=20 > rcpostgres start >=20 > as root. >=20 > Then, from the root account login as the user "postgres"; simply issue > an >=20 > su - postgres >=20 > Please note the "-" (dash) to get a login shell; this way the postgres > profile fragments at /etc/profile.d/postgres* will be sourced. >=20 > As postgres, create users which should be able to manage databases: >=20 > createuser >=20 > etc. >=20 > Login as this user (login shell) an use one of the available > interfaces; start with "createdb". >=20 > | >~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile, put it in /etc/profile. > | >In /etc/profile you can put > | >PGLIB=3D/usr/lib/pgsql/lib > | >PGDATA=3D/var/lib/pgsql/data > | >export PGLIB > | >export PGDATA >=20 > Not need to do this; you'll find profile fragments at the above > mentioned place, that are source by /etc/profile >=20 > -- > Karl Eichwalder --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7849837095345039747==-- From eck@raytheon.com Fri Apr 16 21:25:31 1999 From: eck@raytheon.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] tar Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:25:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3717AACB.17C55A30@raytheon.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3020485272668238406==" --===============3020485272668238406== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable try "tar -xvzf file.tar.gz" or "tar -xvzf file.tgz" <-- tarred and zipped file Terry Beast/2 wrote: > I don't know how to extract from *.q file (with zcat), but > usualy I get for ex. file.tar.gz and do 2 commands : > gzip -d file.tar.gz > tar xvf file.tar > This works fine any time. Maybe try : > zcat file | tar xvf > > Adam > > -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3020485272668238406==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Fri Apr 16 21:40:24 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Postgress configure/setup from suse distro HOW ?? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:40:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3717AE48.278780C5@navix.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6355512244576662336==" --===============6355512244576662336== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Karl Eichwalder wrote: >=20 > Samy Elashmawy writes: >=20 > | Jerry thanks for the info below. Now I am more confused. > | > | I installed the three packackages , pgaccess , postgress and pg_iface. > | ALL form the suse 6.0 distro. >=20 > If you do want an initial database, please install pg_datab as well. >=20 > | However the suse distro changes all the paths and install > | direcories. >=20 > On SuSE Linux, the whole PostgreSQL environment live under > /usr/lib/pgsql -- on request by customers, BTW ;-) And I think, that's a > good idea. >=20 > After installing the packages run >=20 > rcpostgres start >=20 > as root. >=20 > Then, from the root account login as the user "postgres"; simply issue > an >=20 > su - postgres >=20 > Please note the "-" (dash) to get a login shell; this way the postgres > profile fragments at /etc/profile.d/postgres* will be sourced. >=20 > As postgres, create users which should be able to manage databases: >=20 > createuser >=20 > etc. >=20 > Login as this user (login shell) an use one of the available > interfaces; start with "createdb". >=20 > | >~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile, put it in /etc/profile. > | >In /etc/profile you can put > | >PGLIB=3D/usr/lib/pgsql/lib > | >PGDATA=3D/var/lib/pgsql/data > | >export PGLIB > | >export PGDATA >=20 > Not need to do this; you'll find profile fragments at the above > mentioned place, that are source by /etc/profile True. As I said in my intial note to Samy, I had removed Postgres from my system several months ago while I tested other db engines like Oracle, Sybase, MySQL and some others, and when I reinstalled it I used the latest version from www.PosgreSQL.com and compiled and installed it manually. Thanks for the additional guidance to Samy! JLK >=20 > -- > Karl Eichwalder --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6355512244576662336==-- From bestia@unix.forza.de Fri Apr 16 21:46:09 1999 From: bestia@unix.forza.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] tar Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:46:09 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2942713542679706556==" --===============2942713542679706556== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know how to extract from *.q file (with zcat), but usualy I get for ex. file.tar.gz and do 2 commands : gzip -d file.tar.gz tar xvf file.tar This works fine any time. Maybe try : zcat file | tar xvf Adam=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2942713542679706556==-- From mlmayo@texas.net Fri Apr 16 22:09:30 1999 From: mlmayo@texas.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ssh Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:09:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0737134119843907689==" --===============0737134119843907689== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All, I have been searching in vain for ssh on the 6.0 distribution. Does anyone know where it is or even if it is included in the distro. Maybe it is under a different package heading ? Thanks in advance, Mike -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0737134119843907689==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Fri Apr 16 22:23:18 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Gates calls Linux impact 'fairly limited' Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:23:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3717B856.B702C56B@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3716A3B5.33F5DE42@connix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0926014139284912580==" --===============0926014139284912580== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dizzy wrote: >=20 > Well... I dont disagree Jerry, > However from my perspective (which is quite possibly flawed) is I see = Linux *rite > now* in a kind of push come to shove perdiciment where really for the first= time Linux > is openly aknowledged to be a competitor with a milti-billion dollar compan= y, in fact > the *only* operating system (unfortunatly) > Its a choice- users really want just a few things >=20 > 1)stability [linux has that] >=20 > 2)they want to dialup to the web [which untill recently has become a nightm= are for most > linux newbies] With either wvdial or kppp it has been a snap for almost a year... >=20 > 3)they want to browse the web [IMO netscape is really the only choice for a= n across the > board accepted standard webbrowser *and* it seems to becoming less stable] I used Netscape 4.05 (if I remember correctly) since I first fired up Linux a year ago. When SusE 6.0 came out I began using 4.5, which came with the SuSE package. While I have seen many messages on various newsgroups and maillists about Netscape problems, I find both version I ran to be very stable and adquate. I happen to like Netscape's email package. Since I started using newsgroups on CI$ fifteen years ago, I've noticed a tendency of some to assume that because a group is awash in certian kinds of problems the populace as a whole has the same problems. I wonder if that assumption is accurate. I would think that most Linux users don't have the hardware software problems seen on this maillist or on comp.os.linux.misc. After all, there are close to 15 million Linux users. If the majority of them had these problems either these groups and lists would be swamped (and 80 msgs a day is peanuts) or the number of Linux users, instead of exponentially growing as they is now doing, would die out within three months. > 4) they want some kind of gui windowing [ you look at K or gnome then the o= theres such > as fwm or icewm and tell me which one "most" users will choose] KDE without a doubt. It is here, it is now, and it looks like Windows so they are 'familiar' with it. >=20 > 5) they want a decent mail reader [which recently in this group has been di= scussed w/o > any real conclusions ie: this one works... what more do you want. It goes b= ack and=20 Done deal. KDE solved that problem with Kppp. It is no different that setting up the 'Dialup' program on Win95, and just as easy. Have you notice that most WinXX users merely use the browser and email software the Gates put in the WinXX package. The same will happen with KDE and Kppp. However, later on they may try another Xwindow client or email package because NO package is tied to the OS. Or, they may not. Most will stay with what came with the package because it works and they other things to do... > call me jaded or whatever but I just dont veiw that as progress, or rephras= ed--=20 >progress that will keep up with the times. > Many folks will just say... nice but... not for me. IOW not taken seroiusly= -- for the They do that now even for Windows! Computers may be everywhere, but there are still more people who don't use them than those who do. Those kinds of people won't be happy with Linux either. For many people Windows does exactly what they want to do, the way they want to do it, and with the Win 3.11 software they are currently running on their 386 box. They may never change unless the box can't be repaired. The software won't wear out! > 6) they want their documents compatible with their associates .doc .xls. Re= ading > anything about SO makes my stomach churn... Maybe its ok on the new release= . But I > assure you Ive spent more than appropriate time downloading- printing the d= ocs- NADA > Ive also tried the handicapped version of applixware on 5.3 I no longer bot= her to > install it I've purchased and installed SO, Applix and Corel WP. All three ran great for me. I gave SO CD to my son because I liked Applix better for most stuff. For scientific work I like WP better. I think it is great that all three were affordable. I used to use Word 5.0, 6.0, 7.0, Word95 and there is where I stopped. Both Applix and WP imported my Word docs nicely. WP barfed on a 1.2 MB rtf file, but Applix slurped it right up and displayed it perfectly. I sorry you had such a bad experience with your installations. > 7)they want to be able to hook up a printer without jumping thru a million = hoops. a > simple printer! No problem. as2ps and GhostScrip installed automatically on my box and my Cannon BJC 620 runs like a champ. So did the BJC 4000 before it. I may soon be trying an HP postscrip laser printer. I don't expect any problems. >=20 > 8) and I think lastly.. they want a CHOICE... a *viable choice* and lets fa= ce it *most* > rather than stick it out to the bitter end... would just succumb to ms. Its= easier to I am not sure what you mean by "viable choice". I found I have more choices with Linux that I did with M$. I also have more control of my system. It is not a "black box" loaded with binaries and promises of fixes to arrive in the next "update/version". It is only in those areas that commerical companies saw the opportunities for the largest and easiest return on their money do we find 'choices'. Quicken and the M$ offering. Then what? StreetAtlas and the M$ offering. Then what?=20 Two or three flight simulators,word processors, spread sheets and three or four grahics programs. The 'losers' fade away as M$ executes it game plan. > speaking for myself, Ive givin linux my best... but have gotten past the po= int of rtfm > or man this and man that.... factually much of linuxes problems if you will= , is its Tell me you aren't better for it. Tell me that you don't now understand your system more than you ever had before. And, you have reason to learn -- you can contribute! It may be your set of eyes that sees a behavior, realizes the problem, consults the source and fixes it and posts the fix on the net. Like Linux said, "With enough eyeballs all bugs are shallow" >lack of organization with the software writers , distrubuters and lack of *u= p to date* > documentation, whithout having to spend a day finding how to apply one file > I could go on and on.. Im sure the group gets my point and there has been = discussion > adinfiniteum regarding Linux being ready for prime time. I suppose its all = ones > definition of "prime time" > best regards > rob "Lack of organization".... I am sure that you realize that Linux is a volunteer effort. Rather than complain about it, pitch in and help, in any way you can. Can't code? Volunteer to document. Can't write?=20 Organize. Can't organize? Donate $$$. Freely it was given, freely you received, freely you should give. And, above all, encourage!"=20 JLK chapter 1 verse 1. And my number one reason for using Linux? FUN! FUN! FUN! Linux has brought the fun back into computers! JLK -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0926014139284912580==-- From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Fri Apr 16 22:35:55 1999 From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Command not found Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:35:55 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3717A3BA.A08CAE93@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4776592033851976495==" --===============4776592033851976495== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, it looks like you are missing a library file. i've deleted a lib file before... > S K SENTHIL VEL wrote: > >=20 > > Hi Everybody, > >=20 > > I had installed Sybase and I am not able to execute any of the commands. > > When i say dbisql > >=20 > > dbisql: Command not found > >=20 > > Also when I say : > >=20 > > file dbisql > > dbisql: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically > > linked, stripped > >=20 > > Also the PATH is set where the executable resides.. Even when I goto the > > directory which contains the executable and execute ./dbisql, I get the > > same message, "command not found" > >=20 > > Is it problem with the executables or am I missing something that has to > > be set. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4776592033851976495==-- From risch@tir.com Fri Apr 16 22:36:56 1999 From: risch@tir.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] BIOS Update Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:36:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3717BB88.7216145A@tir.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4543623118370771736==" --===============4543623118370771736== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, All, I'm about to do something I've not done before; update my BIOS. I have the basic instructions and the binaries, but as I mostly run Linux I'd be interested in suggestions. I believe that if I foul up it may a wee bit before I hear from anyone. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. FYI, this is being done as having installed an LS-120 drive I can no longer boot my bootable CDROMs thus making life with Linux a wee bit cumbersome. I might add that I can boot the install floppy that is supplied with SuSE Linux. When booting it stops and outputs that the CD is not bootable. Regards, Bob "Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is=20 hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against=20 the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well,=20 but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be=20 masters." - Daniel Webster -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4543623118370771736==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Fri Apr 16 23:08:36 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux/Win95! Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:08:36 -0400 Message-ID: <3717C2F4.32819143@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <19990416180611.25668.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3187540391710351016==" --===============3187540391710351016== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This may or may not help but... have a look at my page regarding dual booting. You can dual/multi boot quite easily by simply modifying config.sys and auto exec.bat essentially you copy vmlinuz to C:\ and copy loadlin.exe to C:\ then modify the 2 windows system files I found the how to That I list to be very straightforward and effective! besides *no cost* to you good luck rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> Keith Snape wrote: > Recently, I've been playing with a friends system, > trying to get a stable companionship (hypocritical I > know!) of Linux and Win95 in seperate partitions on > the same drive. Each, and every time I attempt this, > windows becomes selfish, and realizes its not alone. > I dont know how or why it happens, but it starts to be > "Unable to find sector x", where x is most often > 0,1,or another basic sector of the drive. I have gone > through the headaches of making sure both the / for > linux, and basic Win95 are under the 1024 > cylinder?sector?whatever? limit, and both boot fine > from Lilo. > > I've also attempted to use VMware to run Win95 on a > virtual machine. Now although VM says that the min > specs are PII266/64MB/etc (those where guesses), and > my friend has a PII400/128MB, the virtual machine > makes a lame donkey look fast! Even allocating 100 MB > of physical RAM, and 100 of swap, alters the speed of > it negligably. And to top that, I'm not sure how to > access the cdrom (quite neccesary to install an OS, > wouldnt you think?! :) ), through the virtual image. > The atapi driver included with the CDROM seems to try > to punch a whole through the image, in an attempt to > get to the cdrom (amusing anology, or at least I > thought), and in doing so, causes a couple of dozen > segmentation faults. Personally, I could live without > ever touching a microsoft product again in my life, > but it would be nice to play some games/programs > requiring DirectX (which Wine hasn't quite conquered > yet). > > If there is anyone who get this message, who has "war > stories", possibly helpful information, an exact > science of fruitless labor, or knows someone who can > help, could you let me know/foreward the message/send > prayers my way? :) I'd like to actually prove to > myself, and my friend that it IS possible! :) > > Thanks, > Keith Snape-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3187540391710351016==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Fri Apr 16 23:20:29 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:20:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3717C5BD.3851B7D3@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3713C3DD.DC7848CD@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4404553466343902001==" --===============4404553466343902001== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Merritt wrote: >=20 > Karsten Johansson wrote: > > > > Ewan Dunbar wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > This is DEAD wrong in a lot of areas...but, you should read it. > > > Where? I haven't found any problems with it. WAY better than that WSJ > > > article. > > > > Yes, I fail to see where it is dead wrong... especially in a "lot" of > > areas. Please explain. >=20 > Well, take the paragraph: > "Missing from Linux are high-availability features that would let one > Linux server step in and take over if another failed; full-fledged > support for computers with multiple > processors; and a "journaling" file system that is necessary to quickly > reboot a crashed machine without having to laboriously reconstruct the > computer's system files, the study said." >=20 > Is Beowulf merely a figment of my imagination? As well as many other > clustering solutions. Try doing half of that with NT. I know this is a bit old, but there are some misconceptions here that keep popping up. The article didn't say that SMP was completely absent from Linux, but was green. I've heard of people running serious loads on multiprocessor systems with linux with excelent results, IBM's Netfinities in cluster being a great example. But there truly isn't much documented about it out there. That doesn't mean it isn't so in reality, but to big biz, it does. Also, clustering does not equate to failover support. True, you can remove a node and have the cluster continue to function, however, clusters use a API that allows for custom programs to do highly specialized tasks. They are not ready to support stuff like Oracle DBs running over several machines (that's *next* week ;-)). Failover is a totally different thing, and NT has it better than linux, I'm afraid. Finally, there seem to be efforts on making a journaling filesystem for Linux, but I see no documentation on such a thing being part of the default system. As far as I know, NT doesn't have one, or if it does, it's capabilities are limited. An example of an OS that does is BeOS.=20 AIX is another. > Also, my server does quite well using its dual processors -- I'm not > sure how much more support is needed to be "full-fledged?" How much load does your server handle? How many open file handles, user requests per second, and so on? Linux is getting there, but some of the commercial UNIXs can handle stuff that Linux cannot yet. I don't think that NT can, though. There's just not enough documentation out there to say either way. --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * =20 Yep. I have a very active imagination; it's been a personal =20 condition of mine for years now. * -Bruce Sterling =20 * * * * * -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4404553466343902001==-- From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 16 23:31:31 1999 From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:31:31 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7899319277968317342==" --===============7899319277968317342== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In message <Pine.LNX.3.96.990416110315.4439C-100000= (a)server.easi.soft.net> S K SENTHIL VEL wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I just have a doubt, I couldn't find Celeron Processor in the support > database at SuSE site. So I just want to know which version S.u.S.E will > support this Processor. Well, we just helped a friend install SuSE 6.0 on her Celeron PC last weekend without any hitches at all. A Celeron (or "Celery" as we call it) is effectively a Pentium II as far as compatibility issues go. In fact, Kira here's now got it working on an AmSC410 embedded PC board (but that was after working around a LILO bug that none of the LILO maintainers wants to acknowledge is there). Having said that, once she loses the luxury of a hard disk and it has to run off 8Mb of Flash with no swap, I think it won't be SuSE but some distro of her own possibly derived from Slackware. BTW, SuSE 6.0 runs just fine on the 486 8Mb notebook she just acquired. KDE is too heavy for it (it runs, but too slowly) so it's mainly used at the command-line or qvwm, though it's also used as an X terminal to our big SuSE box, for use in bed at the other end of a 25m 10baseT cable, and then of course, KDE is fine! --=20 Rachel http://www.enlarion.demon.co.uk/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7899319277968317342==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 17 00:06:53 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Postgress configure/setup from suse distro HOW ?? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:06:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3717D09D.D4CF4E96@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990416105125.01354450@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6024246317696444058==" --===============6024246317696444058== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Samy Elashmawy wrote: >=20 > Jerry thanks for the info below. Now I am more confused. >=20 I noticed another individual, Karl, was answering your questions regarding Postgres. It was/is obvious his answers are much more knowledgable than mine. And, I kept asking myself, "where have I seen the name Karl Eichwalder before?" Then I remembered: Karl is the author of the rcpostgres script which starts or stops PostgreSQL and other scripts in the SuSE package! Now I really feel dumb! That's what I like about the SuSE mail list. You get to hear from the fine people who put together the best Linux distro made! So, Samy, you are in good hands! :-) --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6024246317696444058==-- From martin.jackson@mankato.msus.edu Sat Apr 17 01:17:41 1999 From: martin.jackson@mankato.msus.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Some questions about SuSE 6.1 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:17:41 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7168574759488637714==" --===============7168574759488637714== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I am a proud and happy owner of SuSE 6.0, I have some questions about SusE 6.1, if anyone would be kind enough to answer. Also, profound apologies if these have already been answered. I just subscribed to this list again after a long hiatus, and I have tried to find info on the public SuSE websites. 1) Which version of glibc will 6.1 use? And will the current documentation be included? (gnuhtml has info from libc5, somewhat out of date). 2) Will there be TrueType font support via xfs or xfstt? 3) Will YaST and susewm be aware of windowmaker? 4) Which version of pcmcia card services will be used? 5) Which version of samba will ship with 6.1? Thanks much in advance for any help. And thanks to SuSE for a superior distribution. Martin Jackson: martin.jackson(a)mankato.msus.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D aka mjackson(a)deskmedia.com (preferred) aka jacksm(a)mail.mankato.msus.edu aka jacksm(a)krypton.mankato.msus.edu -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7168574759488637714==-- From dlaude@execpc.com Sat Apr 17 01:51:24 1999 From: dlaude@execpc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Test - Ignore Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:51:24 -0500 Message-ID: <199904170151.UAA05056@mailgw02.execpc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9130863058783984913==" --===============9130863058783984913== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Test -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9130863058783984913==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Apr 17 02:29:55 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] LinuxStart.Com - Start with us for all your Linux needs! Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:29:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3717F223.77CE96@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6577311653664066418==" --===============6577311653664066418== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now, why isn't SuSE list here?! Fred _______________________ http://www.linuxstart.com/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6577311653664066418==-- From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Sat Apr 17 02:48:28 1999 From: chuckwm_98@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LinuxStart.Com - Start with us for all your Linux needs! Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:48:28 -0700 Message-ID: <19990417024828.4776.rocketmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] LinuxStart.Com - Start with us for all your Linux needs!> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5942100652252947137==" --===============5942100652252947137== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable kinda looks to me like it is. Chuck --- "Fred A. Miller" wrote: >=20 > Now, why isn't SuSE list here?! >=20 > Fred _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5942100652252947137==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sat Apr 17 03:33:04 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LinuxStart.Com - Start with us for all your Linux needs! Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:33:04 -0400 Message-ID: <371800F0.2F57F62A@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> In-Reply-To: <19990417024828.4776.rocketmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3155640436234606770==" --===============3155640436234606770== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chuck, Yea, and they're pretty nice to SuSE t'boot. Perhaps the site is just coming together and SuSE wasn't there when our local town crier first saw it. ;-) Fred, Cool site. Thanks dude. Steve Chuck MacKinnon wrote: > kinda looks to me like it is. > > Chuck > > --- "Fred A. Miller" wrote: > > > > Now, why isn't SuSE list here?! > > > > Fred > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3155640436234606770==-- From risch@tir.com Sat Apr 17 04:04:56 1999 From: risch@tir.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Key executives plan to leave Netscape Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:04:56 -0400 Message-ID: <37180868.B96DE220@tir.com> In-Reply-To: <371671D8.6015147D@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1129279103052442566==" --===============1129279103052442566== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In mid-1997 I began tinkering with Linux. Slackware, Debian,... A mechanical engineer I was then working for told me that it was a dead OS, merely my rebellion against Bill Gates and M$. It really began, for me, as a way to at least approach the OS I was introduced to on Sparc Stations. I've got a lot to learn, but that is what I like about it, as well as it's stability. Pretty strong heart beat for a dead OS. HP, IBM, Oracle, Intel, Informix....what do these guys know that I don't? Regards, Bob Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > "Fred A. Miller" wrote: > > > > What's happening, is what some of us were afraid of. > > > > Fred >=20 > It means nothing. Companies have come and companies have gone. Linux > wasn't tied to Netscape, but Netscape came to Linux late in a desperate > attempt to save itself. Netscape couldn't compete against M$ after M$ > started giving away IE for free, cutting off Netscape's major revenue > stream, because they didn't have the OS club to bludgeon vendors with. > Linux has shredded the OS club M$ was swinging around because M$ still > has to generate income to pay overhead and stock owners. That is > probably why it split up, to isolate the OS group from the applications > groups. To get lean and more mean. M$ still has a lot of momentun and > can continue to run for a while. Shucks, even DOS is still being used > on 386 and 486 PC's. Windows didn't kill DOS, and Linux won't wipe > windows totally out. But, Linus created the silver bullet that hit the > heart of the blood-sucking vampire... the message just hasn't traveled > all the way to the brain yet. > JLK >=20 > -- >=20 > JLK > Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is > right. > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1129279103052442566==-- From risch@tir.com Sat Apr 17 04:40:48 1999 From: risch@tir.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ssh Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:40:48 -0400 Message-ID: <371810D0.AC5176D1@tir.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1248394324771892070==" --===============1248394324771892070== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry to inform you of this, but I think that you will not find it the US CDROMs. Do to export restrictions I think SuSE has chosen to not place it in a legal harms way, by including ssh on our cdroms. I can not give you the actual url, but check www.debian.org and you will find a link to a site outside the continental US where you can d/l the source files. Regards, Bob Michael Mayo wrote: >=20 > Hello All, > I have been searching in vain for ssh on the 6.0 distribution. > Does anyone know where it is or even if it is included in the distro. > Maybe it is under a different package heading ? > Thanks in advance, Mike >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1248394324771892070==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sat Apr 17 04:59:42 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Didn't Bill say browsers can't be free anymore? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:59:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3718153E.FBA5E8A@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0451931717919758248==" --===============0451931717919758248== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the recent flurry of Bill Gates quotings posted here of late, I seem to recall somewhere that Bill said browsers are becoming to complex and sophisticated to be given away for free anymore. Is he saying that because he can no longer afford to dump his products onto the market at the expense of other start-up competitors, or because he no longer feels he has a competitor. Netscape seems to have been pretty well crushed. Sure AOL bought Netcenter and partnered with Sun to take over product development. I just don't see these organizations being as aggressive in producing subsequent versions of the Netscape browser. I have been under the impression that Netscape is providing support for mozilla.org. My guess is that may be less substantial in the future. I hope the Netscape servers do continue to be viable options for organizations who want relatively easy to use inter/intranet servers. There are currently aspects of Netscape's servers that make them superior to IIS. Two of these are that Netscape currently does a better job supporting PKI, and that Netscape servers run on Unix. I see this first gap closing. I don't remember having heard about MS working on a 64-bit NT. Solaris 7 *is* 64-bit. This means that, at the medium to high end, Unix has a considerable advantage. I warn people not to under estimate the value of the small end. That is where a lot of the action is likely to happen in the near future, and if you get the revenues from the small end, you will have the bucks to break into the high end. There had been a push to port the Netscape servers to Linux. I believe this has been pushed onto the back burner. Again I don't see Sun jumping up and down about supporting Linux. MS may fear Linux, but Sun *should* fear Linux. At the very high end Sun will probably hold onto an advantage for several years. At the ultrasparc II level, a dual processor Merced running Linux could probably put a bite into Sun's market share. As I remember, Linus said something along the lines of '64-bit Linux? No problem! The inherent design of Linux will support that naturally.' I have strayed a bit from where I started this post. To get back to browsers, I don't see anybody providing a quality integrated browser solution for Linux other than Netscape. Mozilla.org may come through, but they haven't produced anything more than beta demos so far. My guess is many people don't see the need for many of the bells and whistles that modern browsers have. Many of the features of a browser are hidden from the user, and are not currently in extensive use. One that I am most concerned with is the ability of IE to process VBscript. If Bill gets sufficient control of the browser market he can make it so that internet servers can be set up to generate pages containing VBscript and ActiveX and function with most clients on the internet. If that happens all browsers will have to process VBscript and ActiveX in order to be viable competitors to IE. Most people won't want to haste with trying to find and run anything less capable than IE. In this scenario Bill gains a tighter grip on the browser market, which he already announced he will be charging you for in the future. Not only that, do you really believe MS will provide the Unix community with a version of IE that is as reliable and functional as the win32 version? I don't. And I don't expect Bill will lift a finger to provide anything viable for Linux. I may just be paranoid. I don't have a full grasp of every aspect of this technology, but I am going through IIS training, and have worked with both Apache and SuiteSpot. I have worked with NT since it was in Beta, and have also worked with Novell, Solaris (sparc and x86), and Linux. Not to mention DOS and Windows 3.1. My instincts tell me there is a real danger here. For those who like to tell me that major organizations cannot run reliably on NT, I checked today. The Network I am on is world wide, and has more than 70 NT domains. I don't have NT related problems very often on this network. I am not trying to sell NT. I *am* getting my MCSE because I believe it is a professionally prudent thing to do. I like Linux. It smells like freedom to me, and I love freedom. I'm just trying to get some sober thinking going on about these subjects. Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0451931717919758248==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Sat Apr 17 05:50:01 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:50:01 -0700 Message-ID: <37182109.8C942BA2@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux knocked in OS study> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6450371866027908495==" --===============6450371866027908495== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Merritt wrote: >=20 > lunaslide wrote: > > > > Michael Merritt wrote: > > > > > > Karsten Johansson wrote: > > > > > > > > Ewan Dunbar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote: > > Also, clustering does not equate to failover support. True, you can > > remove a node and have the cluster continue to function, however, > > clusters use a API that allows for custom programs to do highly > > specialized tasks. They are not ready to support stuff like Oracle DBs > > running over several machines (that's *next* week ;-)). Failover is a > > totally different thing, and NT has it better than linux, I'm afraid. >=20 > Show me a failover-capable NT server. I know you can't fully acheive > this on Linux (there are several systems in the works), but if you call > Microsoft's clustering technology failover-capable, you've never used > it. We use over thirty of these beasts at work in our department alone for post offices. Two machines, same software; monitoring each other for failures using NT's features with a little help from Compaq's server health software. This isn't "clustering", BTW. You are mixing terms.=20 We also have a SunOS setup for failover in this fashion (and it is far more robust), and it is not clustering either. Another group uses them for network telephony applications. I didn't say it's *great* or even good, but it's there. The worst thing we can do as a community is neglect the shortcomings of our OS. That is what will bring down NT. There was an interesting article a few weeks ago on some of the shortcomings of Linux here http://linuxtoday.com/stories/4659.html> Most important about that article was the statements about avoinding groupthink. We can't be afraid of pointing to something in Linux and saying "that just sucks" or "where is that feature?" If we do, we become like the Mac faithful (I'm recovering), who do not seem to percieve the major limitations of their OS. What we need is the same sort of article, but more in depth, about Linux's enterprise server limitations. > > Finally, there seem to be efforts on making a journaling filesystem for > > Linux, but I see no documentation on such a thing being part of the > > default system. As far as I know, NT doesn't have one, or if it does, > > it's capabilities are limited. An example of an OS that does is BeOS. > > AIX is another. >=20 > I know Linux doesn't have this yet... Neither does NT. That's what I said. > > > Also, my server does quite well using its dual processors -- I'm not > > > sure how much more support is needed to be "full-fledged?" > > > > How much load does your server handle? How many open file handles, user > > requests per second, and so on? Linux is getting there, but some of the > > commercial UNIXs can handle stuff that Linux cannot yet. I don't think > > that NT can, though. There's just not enough documentation out there to > > say either way. >=20 > My definition of full-fledged is it does what its supposed too... :-) For that to apply to mission critical, you have to finish the sentence with "under high load". --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * =20 Yep. I have a very active imagination; it's been a personal =20 condition of mine for years now. * -Bruce Sterling =20 * * * * * -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6450371866027908495==-- From rejo@sisterray.xs4all.nl Sat Apr 17 07:19:32 1999 From: rejo@sisterray.xs4all.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] tar Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:19:32 +0200 Message-ID: <19990417091932.C545@sisterray.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5519401553339091840==" --===============5519401553339091840== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ++ 16.04.1999, 23:46:09 (+0200) =3D Beast/2: >usualy I get for ex. file.tar.gz and do 2 commands : > gzip -d file.tar.gz > tar xvf file.tar Can be done simpler with: tar -xzf file.tar.gz The z already tells it's a gzip'ed file. -Rejo.=20 --=20 =3D Rejo [Sister Ray Crisiscentrum] rejo(a)sisterray.xs4all= .nl =3D http://mediaport.org/~sister> PGP: DSS B20D3= 5F8, RSA FAE40065 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5519401553339091840==-- From kukuk@suse.de Sat Apr 17 07:51:31 1999 From: kukuk@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Some questions about SuSE 6.1 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:51:31 +0200 Message-ID: <19990417095131.A15630@allen.suse.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3968456480212927407==" --===============3968456480212927407== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, On Fri, Apr 16, Martin Jackson wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I am a proud and happy owner of SuSE 6.0, I have some questions about > SusE 6.1, if anyone would be kind enough to answer. >=20 > Also, profound apologies if these have already been answered. I just > subscribed to this list again after a long hiatus, and I have tried to > find info on the public SuSE websites. >=20 > 1) Which version of glibc will 6.1 use? And will the current > documentation be included? (gnuhtml has info from libc5, somewhat out of > date). SuSE Linux 6.1 will use the same glibc as SuSE Linux 6.0 (Look at the threads of the last days), glibc 2.0.7preX. For documentation, install libcinfo and use "info libc". This is the documentation which comes with glibc 2.0.x. >=20 > 2) Will there be TrueType font support via xfs or xfstt? No, we don't plan to patch our X11 Server for it, but we wait for an solution from the XFree86 team. >=20 > 3) Will YaST and susewm be aware of windowmaker? Not the version I have installed. >=20 > 4) Which version of pcmcia card services will be used? The PCMCIA version is 3.0.9. Don't know more about it, since I don't use it. >=20 > 5) Which version of samba will ship with 6.1? 2.0.3. >=20 > Thanks much in advance for any help. And thanks to SuSE for a superior > distribution. >=20 > Martin Jackson: martin.jackson(a)mankato.msus.edu > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > aka mjackson(a)deskmedia.com (preferred) > aka jacksm(a)mail.mankato.msus.edu > aka jacksm(a)krypton.mankato.msus.edu >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --=20 Thorsten Kukuk http://www.suse.de/~kukuk/> kukuk(a)sus= e.de SuSE GmbH Schanzaeckerstr. 10 90443 Nuernberg Linux is like a Vorlon. It is incredibly powerful, gives terse, cryptic answers and has a lot of things going on in the background. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3968456480212927407==-- From g.rizzo@usa.net Sat Apr 17 08:23:32 1999 From: g.rizzo@usa.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Requirements for 2.2.5? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:23:32 +0200 Message-ID: <000401be88ab$d89cea60$01078a9d@gg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4508751267945736252==" --===============4508751267945736252== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I've recently tried to install the new kernel 2.2.5. I managed to compile and correctly install , but when I try to boot it it hangs at the very beginning of the boot process. Luck for me I had made a dual boot configuration with the 'old' 2.2.4! Anyway, I checked the 'changes' text file in the /usr/src/linux/documentation directory, and it seems I miss the following elements: - Kernel modutils 2.1.121 ; 2.1.85 - Linux libc5 C Library 5.4.46 ; ? - Linux libc6 C Library 2.0.7pre6 ; ? - Procps 1.2.9 ; 1.2.7 - Procinfo 16 ; 15 - Autofs 3.1.1 ; ? - NFS 2.2beta40 ; 2.2beta38 - Ncpfs 2.2.0 ; ? - Pcmcia-cs 3.0.7 ; ? - Util-linux 2.9i ; ? First is the name, the second the version required, the third (after the ';' ) the version I have. I have SuSE 6.0, so why I have such old components?? Anyway, can anyone tell me if these are actually required for the kernel, or if I can go along with the old ones; if the booting problem I have may be caused by them; and, most important of all, where can I find the updated versions of them? Thanks in advance, Mano :) ---------------------------------- Germano Rizzo - g.rizzo(a)usa.net http://members.xoom.com/germano> webmaster of http://members.xoom.com/ACSpinea> Linux Registered User N=C2=B0 114445 Official Linux KDE Doc. Translator PLUTO member - www.pluto.linux.it ---------------------------------- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GE d-(--) s:- a-->? C++++>$ UL>+++$ P L+++>++++ E++ W+++ N+(++) ?o w---(+) !O M- ?V PS+ PE-- ?Y> PGP+ t-(--) ?5 X+ R tv- b+++ DI++ D+++ G++ e h! r@ y?* ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ht= tp://www.geekcode.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4508751267945736252==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 17 08:44:35 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Postgress configure/setup from suse distro HOW ?? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:44:35 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990417084435.0111f1d8@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6596371898842268444==" --===============6596371898842268444== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >| I installed the three packackages , pgaccess , postgress and pg_iface. >| ALL form the suse 6.0 distro. >If you do want an initial database, please install pg_datab as well. >| However the suse distro changes all the paths and install >| direcories. >On SuSE Linux, the whole PostgreSQL environment live under >/usr/lib/pgsql -- on request by customers, BTW ;-) And I think, that's a >good idea. >After installing the packages run > > rcpostgres start Do you need to set this up elswhere to autamaticly start each time you boot up ?? >as root. >Then, from the root account login as the user "postgres"; simply issue >an > su - postgres >Please note the "-" (dash) to get a login shell; this way the postgres >profile fragments at /etc/profile.d/postgres* will be sourced. >As postgres, create users which should be able to manage databases: > createuser >etc. I did this , and iot seemed to go ok >Login as this user (login shell) an use one of the available >interfaces; start with "createdb". ee below >| >~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile, put it in /etc/profile. >| >In /etc/profile you can put >| >PGLIB=3D/usr/lib/pgsql/lib >| >PGDATA=3D/var/lib/pgsql/data >| >export PGLIB >| >export PGDATA >Not need to do this; you'll find profile fragments at the above >mentioned place, that are source by /etc/profile I am not sure what you mean here . Anyway thanks for the step by step instructions. I gather that postgress is now running. I fired up pgaccess , and was not able to find the sample data from pg_datab ?=20 How do I piont it to it. I tried to freate a database but kept getting all sorts of error when creating the table. =20 I also noted that the help and htm section in the help menu did not do anything. Clicking them sinply blinked the menu chioce.=20 I found no manuale for pgaccess , only an htm file showing what it can do , not how to do. Any chance any of you can piont me in the right direction. You mention other interfaces. What other interfaces are there besides pgaccess ?? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6596371898842268444==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Sat Apr 17 08:55:15 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ssh Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:55:15 +0200 Message-ID: <37184C73.624F5C74@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2401035505951402323==" --===============2401035505951402323== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Michael, You can get ssh from the German ftp site. ftp.suse.de at ftp://ftp.suse.de/pub/sus= e_update/S.u.S.E.-5.2/n1/> . If you want to use it as a ssh demon you also need to generate a key for sshd. This can be done by ssl-keygen i think this is the correct command. When you start sshd as root you see when he cant find the key there you have to copy the key. Don't use a passfrase else the sshd cant read the key and you get the same error. Regards, Joop Boonen. If ssh-keygen isn't correct please let me know i will look it up for you. I'm now on another system. Michael Mayo wrote: > Hello All, > I have been searching in vain for ssh on the 6.0 distribution. > Does anyone know where it is or even if it is included in the distro. > Maybe it is under a different package heading ? > Thanks in advance, Mike > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2401035505951402323==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sat Apr 17 09:06:54 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] YARD users list?? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:06:54 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1768791641219581434==" --===============1768791641219581434== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know of a mailing list for users of the YARD RDBMS? ( http://www= .yard.de> in case anyone's wondering what it is). With thanks, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 17-Apr-99 Time: 10:06:54 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1768791641219581434==-- From venrooij@casema.net Sat Apr 17 09:38:40 1999 From: venrooij@casema.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Requirements for 2.2.5? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:38:40 +0200 Message-ID: <371856A0.8657DA8C@casema.net> In-Reply-To: <000401be88ab$d89cea60$01078a9d@gg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6575340554236057372==" --===============6575340554236057372== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am afraid I have to disagree. From kernel 2.2.4 to 2.2.5 is just a patch level change. As I understand it, this means that there are no major new features to be expected in 2.2.5 as compared with 2.2.4. I also run SuSE 6.0 and had no problems with booting kernel 2.2.5, so the problem is not with the slightly outdated packages you mentioned. On the contrary, I switched to SuSE 6.0 since I consider it one of the most up to date distributions around. Since you apparently succeeded in building and installing the 2.2.4 kernel before, I can only conclude that you did _not_ correctly compile and install the 2.2.5 kernel. Did you perform all steps in the 'make dep && make clean && make (b)zImage && make modules && make modules_install' sequence? If you did a 'ma= ke (b)zlilo' instead of 'make (b)zImage', make sure the install path in /usr/src/linux/Makefile corresponds to that in your /etc/lilo.conf. By the wa= y, I consider it common sense to keep your previous, bootable kernel around. This prevents you from having to depend on luck ;-) Still, better luck next time, Tim. BTW: If you keep having problems with booting, can you be more specific concerning the error messages, if any? Germano Rizzo wrote: > Hi, > I've recently tried to install the new kernel 2.2.5. I managed to > compile and correctly install , but when I try to boot it it hangs at the > very beginning of the boot process. Luck for me I had made a dual boot > configuration with the 'old' 2.2.4! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6575340554236057372==-- From colWilson@bigfoot.com Sat Apr 17 10:21:33 1999 From: colWilson@bigfoot.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] test Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:21:33 +0200 Message-ID: <199904171021.MAA06210@server.wilson.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6510124790827230798==" --===============6510124790827230798== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --=20 Col Wilson -o) 41372 Niederkruechten-Elmpt /\\ Germany _\_v The penguins are coming... the penguins are coming... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6510124790827230798==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Sat Apr 17 10:28:19 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Window manager to try Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:28:19 +0200 Message-ID: <37186243.277A2453@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1903235532654097337==" --===============1903235532654097337== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I've now started using window maker. I like it very much. So to people who want to try it, they can get it. It's best to get a new version from <= A HREF=3D"http://www.windowmaker.org/http://www.windowmaker.org/>= . You need to get both the winmaker sources and the libPropList sources. On url: h= ttp://wm.themes.org/> you can see what nice themes they have for windowmaker. Windowmaker can be used together with gnome. It's a straight forward very well designed and be very very efficiently be used when you're use to it. Alt 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. for switching between windows etc. Regards, Joop Boonen. I just recommend it. You don't have to use it. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1903235532654097337==-- From bfootdav@bellsouth.net Sat Apr 17 12:27:53 1999 From: bfootdav@bellsouth.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Program to find all words in another words Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:27:53 -0400 Message-ID: <37187E48.ABC73DFC@bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Program to find all words in another words> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2687896206184765975==" --===============2687896206184765975== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve Crane wrote: >=20 > Does anyone know where I might find a program that can create a list of > all words made up from the letters in a given word? I could write a > program to generate a list and then run it against ispell but why bother > if someone else has already done it. > -- > Steve Crane >=20 I seem to recall that in the Debian dist there is such a program included. I don't know what it was called, but I'm sure if you go to their web site you can find it and even download the source (which should compile quite easily). David Bellows -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2687896206184765975==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 17 12:36:27 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Key executives plan to leave Netscape Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 07:36:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3718804B.1493D16B@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <37180868.B96DE220@tir.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9167574977907796077==" --===============9167574977907796077== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert Russell wrote: >=20 > In mid-1997 I began tinkering with Linux. Slackware, Debian,... >=20 > A mechanical engineer I was then working for told me that it was a dead > OS, merely my rebellion against Bill Gates and M$. >=20 > It really began, for me, as a way to at least approach the OS I was > introduced to on Sparc Stations. >=20 > I've got a lot to learn, but that is what I like about it, as well as > it's stability. >=20 > Pretty strong heart beat for a dead OS. HP, IBM, Oracle, Intel, > Informix....what do these guys know that I don't? >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Bob >=20 Hi Bob, Welcome aboard Linux! On May 8th of last year I had my umpteenth crash while running Win95 on my home system. I program professionally, and while I have to tolerate 2 to 4 crashes a day at work, I decided I didn't have to tolerate crashes at home. In 1995 a friend of mine showed me a new OS he'd found called Linux. He had it dual booting on his NT machine. He got eight copies of Doom running in the demo mode simultaneously, whereas only four would run adequately on the NT side. And more importantly, he said it hadn't crash once since he installed it. "Sure, sure" I thought, and dismissed his toy as a curious backwater of computers. Win95, which I had recently installed, was where things were going. In 1998 I thought of that demo and went looking to see if Linux had survived the intervening years. Had it! Wow! I've had only one crash of Linux, last fall while running 5.3, and that was caused by 1) the result of a program I wrote while trying to learn C and 2) my lack of knowledge about how to pop up virtual terminals to regain control of programs that have run amuck. During the winter months I left my box on for weeks at a time, bringing it down and unplugging it only to avoid possible lighting strikes this spring.=20 Knowing your OS won't give up on you is a comforting thought. Not having to (re)buy those "doctor kits" that supposedly prevent Win95 crashes, or aid in recovery when it does, is also nice. The biggest thing though, is the FUN Linux restores to computing! JLK --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9167574977907796077==-- From Gleth@tinet.ie Sat Apr 17 13:22:53 1999 From: Gleth@tinet.ie To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help, my system won't send packets to the ethernet. Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:22:53 +0000 Message-ID: <37188B2D.6BFE214@tinet.ie> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Help, my system won't send packets to the ethernet.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3155140624324290974==" --===============3155140624324290974== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable alexm wrote: >=20 > Hi, Hi...thanks for this help BTW > do you use IP masquerading? no, and it's not started by rc.config > did you set the rules correctly? n/a :-) > is your IP_FORWARD set to "yes"? no it isn't... should it be? > is your linux machine set as a gateway for the Sparc? no. again, should it be? > can you telnet from sparc to linux? no, it tries but all i get is: Trying 192.168.42.42... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out the sparc is able to telnet into my pc when i boot into windoze though (dual boot system) > you can get rid of dummy0 interface. ok did this, but no changes happend :=3D8) I tried arp -a after trying to ping the sparc box from ,linux, and it showed this: elc12.rowanoak.zalyina.ie (192.168.42.66) at on eth0 o I wondered if that said anything about my problem?=20 also, whilst checking my rc.config I found that both routed and rinetd aren't started by it...could this be a problem? again, thank you for your help. Have Fun, G'leth (Jim Mcboyle) Gleth(a)white-star.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3155140624324290974==-- From chjo@tripnet.se Sat Apr 17 13:32:52 1999 From: chjo@tripnet.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Mail filters in pine? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:32:52 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5260747623206049173==" --===============5260747623206049173== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, As I understand it it's possible to set up filters in pine, just as you can in Netscape Mail. However, I don't quite understand how it's done. Can someone point me in the right direction? TIA Tina -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5260747623206049173==-- From risch@tir.com Sat Apr 17 14:20:09 1999 From: risch@tir.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:20:09 -0400 Message-ID: <37189899.816C55EC@tir.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0292819723039376001==" --===============0292819723039376001== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is one short coming to the Celeron. The Celeron will not support SMP. I am told as that has been disabled, that is certain "connections" have been broken intentionally by Intel. Reagards, Bob Rachel Greenham wrote: >=20 > In message <Pine.LNX.3.96.990416110315.4439C-1000= 00(a)server.easi.soft.net> > S K SENTHIL VEL wrote: >=20 > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I just have a doubt, I couldn't find Celeron Processor in the support > > database at SuSE site. So I just want to know which version S.u.S.E will > > support this Processor. >=20 > Well, we just helped a friend install SuSE 6.0 on her Celeron PC last weeke= nd > without any hitches at all. >=20 > A Celeron (or "Celery" as we call it) is effectively a Pentium II as far as > compatibility issues go. >=20 > In fact, Kira here's now got it working on an AmSC410 embedded PC board (but > that was after working around a LILO bug that none of the LILO maintainers > wants to acknowledge is there). >=20 > Having said that, once she loses the luxury of a hard disk and it has to run > off 8Mb of Flash with no swap, I think it won't be SuSE but some distro of > her own possibly derived from Slackware. >=20 > BTW, SuSE 6.0 runs just fine on the 486 8Mb notebook she just acquired. KDE > is too heavy for it (it runs, but too slowly) so it's mainly used at the > command-line or qvwm, though it's also used as an X terminal to our big SuSE > box, for use in bed at the other end of a 25m 10baseT cable, and then of > course, KDE is fine! >=20 > -- > Rachel > http://www.enlarion.demon.co.uk/> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0292819723039376001==-- From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sat Apr 17 14:25:22 1999 From: dwj@linuxtoday.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Mail filters in pine? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 07:25:22 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8721809334463484398==" --===============8721809334463484398== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Tina wrote: > As I understand it it's possible to set up filters in pine, just as you > can in Netscape Mail. However, I don't quite understand how it's done. > Can someone point me in the right direction? procmail is an application that can work with Pine to filter and/or redirect mail. It is probably preinstalled on your SuSE Linux. Try 'man procmail'. Dwight -- Dwight Johnson All the Latest dwj(a)linuxtoday.com Linux News ------------------->>http://linuxtoday.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8721809334463484398==-- From risch@tir.com Sat Apr 17 14:35:18 1999 From: risch@tir.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Key executives plan to leave Netscape Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:35:18 -0400 Message-ID: <37189C26.E5592415@tir.com> In-Reply-To: <3718804B.1493D16B@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8239527791644183822==" --===============8239527791644183822== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm afraid that I'm a little limited in your professional area, but programming was one of the things that caught my attention in Linux; C, as well, and a few other languages, such as forth. A unix-like OS just seemed to good to pass up. The learning curve has been pretty steep as I work in AutoCAD and programming has been limited to very simple autolisp routines to aid in large projects, but as I said I see much more of a future in Linux than in the "other guy." Thanks for the welcome aboard! Regards, Bob Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > Robert Russell wrote: > > > > In mid-1997 I began tinkering with Linux. Slackware, Debian,... > > > > A mechanical engineer I was then working for told me that it was a dead > > OS, merely my rebellion against Bill Gates and M$. > > > > It really began, for me, as a way to at least approach the OS I was > > introduced to on Sparc Stations. > > > > I've got a lot to learn, but that is what I like about it, as well as > > it's stability. > > > > Pretty strong heart beat for a dead OS. HP, IBM, Oracle, Intel, > > Informix....what do these guys know that I don't? > > > > Regards, > > > > Bob > > >=20 > Hi Bob, > Welcome aboard Linux! > On May 8th of last year I had my umpteenth crash while running Win95 on > my home system. I program professionally, and while I have to tolerate > 2 to 4 crashes a day at work, I decided I didn't have to tolerate > crashes at home. In 1995 a friend of mine showed me a new OS he'd found > called Linux. He had it dual booting on his NT machine. He got eight > copies of Doom running in the demo mode simultaneously, whereas only > four would run adequately on the NT side. And more importantly, he said > it hadn't crash once since he installed it. "Sure, sure" I thought, and > dismissed his toy as a curious backwater of computers. Win95, which I > had recently installed, was where things were going. In 1998 I thought > of that demo and went looking to see if Linux had survived the > intervening years. Had it! Wow! > I've had only one crash of Linux, last fall while running 5.3, and that > was caused by 1) the result of a program I wrote while trying to learn C > and 2) my lack of knowledge about how to pop up virtual terminals to > regain control of programs that have run amuck. During the winter > months I left my box on for weeks at a time, bringing it down and > unplugging it only to avoid possible lighting strikes this spring. > Knowing your OS won't give up on you is a comforting thought. Not > having to (re)buy those "doctor kits" that supposedly prevent Win95 > crashes, or aid in recovery when it does, is also nice. The biggest > thing though, is the FUN Linux restores to computing! > JLK > -- >=20 > JLK > Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is > right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8239527791644183822==-- From mstriani@cvtci.com.ar Sat Apr 17 14:36:00 1999 From: mstriani@cvtci.com.ar To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Please join linux-castellano@egroups.com Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:36:00 -0300 Message-ID: <055101be88df$9f879520$f18b0ac8@200.200.1> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Please join linux-castellano@egroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5056274061307057797==" --===============5056274061307057797== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Mensaje original -----=20 De: eGroups User Para: Enviado: Domingo, 21 de Marzo de 1999 10:01 p.m. Asunto: [SuSE Linux] Please join linux-castellano(a)egroups.com >=20 > This is the eGroups.com service. >=20 > The moderator of the linux-castellano(a)egroups.com group would like to > invite you to join the group. To join, YOU MUST REPLY to this > message. >=20 > If you join, you can read group messages in your e-mail in-box or on > the Web. =20 >=20 > Here is a welcome statement provided by the group moderator: >=20 > ------ >=20 > Esta es una Lista de Linux en diferentes versiones en Castellano > ------ > =20 > To accept this invitation, please use the "Reply" function of your > e-mail program and send back a blank message. >=20 > Or you can accept by going to this Web location: >=20 > http://ww= w.egroups.com/subscribe?list=3Dlinux-castellano>&vcode=3D993 >=20 > If you do not wish to join, please just ignore this invitation. >=20 > If you have questions, please feel free to contact the moderator of > this group at jrporto(a)usa.net or visit >=20 > http://www.egroups.com/info/help.html>=20 >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > The eGroups.com Team > --- > FREE Web-based e-mail groups! > ht= tp://www.egroups.com> >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5056274061307057797==-- From geoff@gnewson.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 17 15:12:51 1999 From: geoff@gnewson.freeserve.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] LaTex Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:12:51 +0100 Message-ID: <083001be897f$43111f00$310b883e@q3c5t6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4352051010090548405==" --===============4352051010090548405== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My problem is that I cannot generate the format files for latex. I have tried=20 texconfig init but that only wrote output to logfiles. Help please. Geoff Newson =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4352051010090548405==-- From michael@merrittpop.com Sat Apr 17 15:18:35 1999 From: michael@merrittpop.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.6 Released Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:18:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3718A64B.AC6A91FE@merrittpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3164859925560668729==" --===============3164859925560668729== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The world has been blessed with the release of Linux kernel 2.2.6.=20 Download it from your local kernel.org mirror. CHANGELOG follows: Linux 2.2.6 -- Released 16-Apr-99 21:46 - Required software documentation updates. (Documentation/Changes)=20 - VESA framebuffer console documentation updates. (Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt)=20 - UFS filesystem documentation added. (Documentation/filesystems/ufs.txt)=20 - PCM1-pro sound driver documentation added. (Documentation/sound/PCM1-pro)=20 - Kernel sysctl documentation updates. (Documentation/sysctl/)=20 - Minor Alpha architecture update.=20 - x86 IO-APIC code updates.=20 - x86 MCA bus code updates.=20 - Minor x86 SMP code update.=20 - Minor generic hard disk driver updates: Changes to the SGI partition detection code.=20 - Mitsumi CD-ROM driver update: IRQ and port now are config options.=20 - Sanyo CD-ROM driver update: The driver now sets the sector size tables, fixing a bug in the previous version.=20 - ADS Cadet AM/FM Tuner support added.=20 - Pixelview PlayTV support added.=20 - Cyclades multiport serial driver updates: Bug that prevented the port from being closed properly after a SIGINT fixed. Module usage counter improved. Support added for "Y PCI" boards.=20 - /dev/mem character device driver updated: Mostly stuff regarding O_SYNC, I believe.=20 - Minor software watchdog timer update.=20 - DEC FDDIcontroller (defxx) driver updates.=20 - Major IrDA subsystem updates.=20 - RedCreek network driver updates.=20 - SyncPPP network driver update: It appears that support was added for size 20 Cisco packets.=20 - z85230 net card driver updates.=20 - ncr53c8xx SCSI driver updates: "excl" boot command option added; this allows you the IO address of devices not to attach.=20 - aha152x SCSI driver updates.=20 - gdth SCSI driver updates.=20 - PCI-2000 SCSI driver updates: Spinlock and PCI configuration bugfixes.=20 - PCI-2220i SCSI driver updates: Spinlock and PCI configuration bugfixes.=20 - qlogic fibrechannel SCSI driver updates.=20 - Major generic SCSI driver updates.=20 - Symbios 53C896 SCSI driver added.=20 - Minor wd33c93 SCSI driver update.=20 - Sound driver updates.=20 - Ensoniq 1370 and 1371 sound driver updates: More IOCTLs implimented. Fixes for DEC Alpha systems.=20 - S3 Sonicvibes sound driver updates: This driver now revives the chip if it locks up. More IOCTLs implimented. Fixes for DEC Alpha systems.=20 - MTRR option added to the VESA framebuffer console driver.=20 - affs filesystem driver updates.=20 - Coda filesystem driver updates.=20 - ext2 filesystem driver updates.=20 - FAT filesystem driver update: Invalid FSINFO offset fixed.=20 - Minor HFS filesystem driver update.=20 - Minor updates to the generic filesystem layer (VFS).=20 - Minix filesystem driver updates.=20 - MS-DOS filesystem driver updates.=20 - NCP network filesystem driver updates.=20 - NFS filesystem driver updates.=20 - Kernel NFS daemon updates.=20 - NT filesystem driver updates.=20 - Minor /proc virtual filesystem driver update.=20 - SMB network filesystem driver updates.=20 - System V filesystem driver updates.=20 - UFS filesystem driver updates.=20 - UMSDOS filesystem driver updates.=20 - VFAT filesystem driver updates.=20 - IPC shared memory code updated.=20 - Memory map code updated.=20 - Appletalk net driver updates.=20 - ver_linux utility script updated.=20 Also, for those interested, Alan Cox has also released his 2.2.6-ac1 patch. -- Michael Merritt michael(a)merrittpop.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/> michaelmerritt(a)email.com | http://www.merrittpop.com/jmm/> ICQ: 21021306 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3164859925560668729==-- From mlmayo@texas.net Sat Apr 17 15:21:50 1999 From: mlmayo@texas.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ssh Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:21:50 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1136872595948946782==" --===============1136872595948946782== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Thank you to everyone for your response. Ssh is up and running :-) Take Care, Mike -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1136872595948946782==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Sat Apr 17 15:28:03 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ssh Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:28:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3718A883.AB569C29@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <371810D0.AC5176D1@tir.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4587724565463016394==" --===============4587724565463016394== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, You could try the url below and go get the source and compile it. :) Get the newest 1.X.X version and the newest 2.X.X version and compile/install the 1.X.X version first, and then the 2.X.X version. Once this is complete, then if you are connecting to a system that has 2.X.X version your all good..but if the system has the 1.X.X version installed it will automatically drop back to that version for compatibilty.. :) Cheers, http://www.ssh.fi/sshprotocols2/> --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4587724565463016394==-- From iwojima@hotbot.com Sat Apr 17 15:42:19 1999 From: iwojima@hotbot.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] make Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 07:42:19 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3438987283400026096==" --===============3438987283400026096== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What I'm I doing wrong here. I have untar files before ran make and all goes = well. Well with this one file wmppp-1.3.0.tar, I untar it, but when i run mak= e this is what i get No rules to make target 'all'. stop, also when i run mak= e install i'm still getting the same error. what i'm i missing here. Thanks very much. HotBot - Search smarter. http:/= /www.hotbot.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3438987283400026096==-- From risch@tir.com Sat Apr 17 16:00:26 1999 From: risch@tir.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Didn't Bill say browsers can't be free anymore? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:00:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3718B01A.43927A2C@tir.com> In-Reply-To: <3718153E.FBA5E8A@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7840831079221120642==" --===============7840831079221120642== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well said, Steve, You're way beyond me though from my lowly perspective you make very good observations. I believe that M$ will use strategies that will exclude if it can not out right stop. I make that observation based on remarks I've heard regarding various protocols, such http. Is it true that java runs on any OS or is there something different about M$ java? M$ is PREDATORY make no mistake. Do not be encouraged by ANY DOJ actions taken against M$. If you doubt what I say read one of Gabriel Kolko's works, such as "The Triumph of Conservatism" for a deeper analysis of what happened in the rail industry or oil industry, as examples, early in this century and late in the last century. Linux is a great OS and the people , who are developing it are doing a great job.=20 They are, imho, quietly working under what I would term rather arduous conditions to make it the best. I don't really hear them boasting. The analogy may not be a good one, but I recall a place called Dunkirk. British forces were out gunned and things did not look good, but an incredible rescue using anything that could float plucked those guys out of the teeth of the enemy. That enemy foolishly decided not to follow to the bitter end. I'm greatful that he was so cocky. There have been others, who could be lumped in of a similar mind, Rockefeller is only one. He wanted the whole pie to himself and whether I am believed or not. Another, who those in the UK would be familiar with is Cecil Rhodes. That man has hand around the throat of a lot of folks from the grave. In judo, my understanding is that a smaller person is able to defeat a larger person, but he must use his opponents strengths against him and he must do it with intelligence. I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade. Regards, Bob Are you part of "The Matrix"? Steven T. Hatton wrote: >=20 > In the recent flurry of Bill Gates quotings posted here of late, I seem > to recall somewhere that Bill said browsers are becoming to complex and > sophisticated to be given away for free anymore. Is he saying that > because he can no longer afford to dump his products onto the market at > the expense of other start-up competitors, or because he no longer feels > he has a competitor. Netscape seems to have been pretty well crushed. > Sure AOL bought Netcenter and partnered with Sun to take over product > development. I just don't see these organizations being as aggressive > in producing subsequent versions of the Netscape browser. I have been > under the impression that Netscape is providing support for > mozilla.org. My guess is that may be less substantial in the future. >=20 > I hope the Netscape servers do continue to be viable options for > organizations who want relatively easy to use inter/intranet servers. > There are currently aspects of Netscape's servers that make them > superior to IIS. Two of these are that Netscape currently does a better > job supporting PKI, and that Netscape servers run on Unix. I see this > first gap closing. I don't remember having heard about MS working on a > 64-bit NT. Solaris 7 *is* 64-bit. This means that, at the medium to > high end, Unix has a considerable advantage. I warn people not to under > estimate the value of the small end. That is where a lot of the action > is likely to happen in the near future, and if you get the revenues from > the small end, you will have the bucks to break into the high end. >=20 > There had been a push to port the Netscape servers to Linux. I believe > this has been pushed onto the back burner. Again I don't see Sun > jumping up and down about supporting Linux. MS may fear Linux, but Sun > *should* fear Linux. At the very high end Sun will probably hold onto > an advantage for several years. At the ultrasparc II level, a dual > processor Merced running Linux could probably put a bite into Sun's > market share. As I remember, Linus said something along the lines of > '64-bit Linux? No problem! The inherent design of Linux will support > that naturally.' >=20 > I have strayed a bit from where I started this post. To get back to > browsers, I don't see anybody providing a quality integrated browser > solution for Linux other than Netscape. Mozilla.org may come through, > but they haven't produced anything more than beta demos so far. My > guess is many people don't see the need for many of the bells and > whistles that modern browsers have. Many of the features of a browser > are hidden from the user, and are not currently in extensive use. One > that I am most concerned with is the ability of IE to process VBscript. > If Bill gets sufficient control of the browser market he can make it so > that internet servers can be set up to generate pages containing > VBscript and ActiveX and function with most clients on the internet. If > that happens all browsers will have to process VBscript and ActiveX in > order to be viable competitors to IE. Most people won't want to haste > with trying to find and run anything less capable than IE. In this > scenario Bill gains a tighter grip on the browser market, which he > already announced he will be charging you for in the future. Not only > that, do you really believe MS will provide the Unix community with a > version of IE that is as reliable and functional as the win32 version? > I don't. And I don't expect Bill will lift a finger to provide anything > viable for Linux. >=20 > I may just be paranoid. I don't have a full grasp of every aspect of > this technology, but I am going through IIS training, and have worked > with both Apache and SuiteSpot. I have worked with NT since it was in > Beta, and have also worked with Novell, Solaris (sparc and x86), and > Linux. Not to mention DOS and Windows 3.1. My instincts tell me there > is a real danger here. >=20 > For those who like to tell me that major organizations cannot run > reliably on NT, I checked today. The Network I am on is world wide, and > has more than 70 NT domains. I don't have NT related problems very > often on this network. I am not trying to sell NT. I *am* getting my > MCSE because I believe it is a professionally prudent thing to do. I > like Linux. It smells like freedom to me, and I love freedom. I'm just > trying to get some sober thinking going on about these subjects. >=20 > Steve >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7840831079221120642==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sat Apr 17 16:49:40 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] make Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:49:40 +0200 Message-ID: <3718BBA4.53E29440@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6346278383845159221==" --===============6346278383845159221== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yuj jonah wrote: >=20 > What I'm I doing wrong here. I have untar files before ran make and all goe= s well. Well with this one file wmppp-1.3.0.tar, I untar it, but when i run m= ake this is what i get No rules to make target 'all'. stop, also when i run m= ake install i'm still getting the same error. what i'm i missing here. It's nonsense to issue a command and then to not have a look at what has done. Unpacking the above archive should have given you a new subdirectory in the current directory. ls will tell you its name. Then cd into that directory _Please_ _read_ files like INSTALL, README, etc These will tell you exactly what you have to do then. Especially if there are special configure parameters. You can also see them with ./configure --help ./configure make make install But look at the above mentioned file before. And only issue a command if the previous terminated successfully. If for example 'make' fails, it is useless to issue make install. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6346278383845159221==-- From Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net Sat Apr 17 16:52:47 1999 From: Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Diald did it to me again! Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:52:47 -0700 Message-ID: <3718BC5F.8EF3D72E@gte.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2636197130088992184==" --===============2636197130088992184== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We'll I had posted a problem regarding diald where it was mysteriously crashing on a daily basis. My solution so I thought was to build SLIP and PPP support directly into the kernel instead of building them as kernel modules. I though that perhaps kerneld was unloading SLIP which diald needs to run. That seemed to help somewhat as diald ran for 23 days before crashing again. There are no errors reported in the syslog and I couldn't find a core file on my system anywhere. My only clue to knowing that diald crashed was I see diald reporting that it removed the stale lockfile on device /dev/ttyS1 which is the device my modem is connected to. At this point I decided to "use the source" and so I've download diald 0.16 as well as the diald patch 0.16.5. I applied the patch to the 0.16 source, compiled the code and temporarily replaced the SuSE 6.0 supplied diald executable This is very frustrating as diald was rock solid in SuSE 5.2 and 5.3. I ran my server for months on end without a reboot and diald was always there. I guess I'll have to look into running diald through init so it will get restarted automatically when it dies if this version I downloaded doesn't have any better stability than the version supplied with SuSE 6.0 Tony --=20 Anthony.Schlemmer(a)gte.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2636197130088992184==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Sat Apr 17 17:29:12 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Didn't Bill say browsers can't be free anymore? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:29:12 -0700 Message-ID: <3718C4E8.87E68CB8@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3718153E.FBA5E8A@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5638446923192288468==" --===============5638446923192288468== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Steven T. Hatton" wrote: >=20 > In the recent flurry of Bill Gates quotings posted here of late, I seem > to recall somewhere that Bill said browsers are becoming to complex and > sophisticated to be given away for free anymore. Is he saying that > because he can no longer afford to dump his products onto the market at > the expense of other start-up competitors, or because he no longer feels > he has a competitor. Netscape seems to have been pretty well crushed. > Sure AOL bought Netcenter and partnered with Sun to take over product > development. I just don't see these organizations being as aggressive > in producing subsequent versions of the Netscape browser. I have been > under the impression that Netscape is providing support for > mozilla.org. My guess is that may be less substantial in the future. I think that the lack of a new Netscape browser yet is not terribly serious. If you have tried running any of the builds of Gecko or the Milestone releases of mozilla, the browser is extremely impressive.=20 It's true that IE has been gaining substantial marketshare recently, but as they themselves showed (with the help of a monopoly OS), the browser market can change very rapidly because a new browser is only a download away. I think mozilla looks really promising, and that it will handily outclass IE when it comes out. > I hope the Netscape servers do continue to be viable options for > organizations who want relatively easy to use inter/intranet servers. > There are currently aspects of Netscape's servers that make them > superior to IIS. Two of these are that Netscape currently does a better > job supporting PKI, and that Netscape servers run on Unix. =20 You may be forgetting that most web sites on the net run on UNIX and most of those are Apache. The impact of that is easily underestimated.=20 Also, people and companies seem to be getting pretty sick of the defacto standards that both Netscape and IE have been introducing into HTML, and the fact that Netscape 5 will be $100 standards compliant will have major impact. > I see this > first gap closing. I don't remember having heard about MS working on a > 64-bit NT. Solaris 7 *is* 64-bit. This means that, at the medium to > high end, Unix has a considerable advantage. =20 64-bit NT is being developed for Merced. > I warn people not to under > estimate the value of the small end. That is where a lot of the action > is likely to happen in the near future, and if you get the revenues from > the small end, you will have the bucks to break into the high end. This is a very good point, and one that the major UNIX vendors are not taking to heart. Go out and check out progress on getting Linux certified as UNIX. The other UNIX vendors have to approve of another UNIX brand, and most of them are very willing to do it. They probably figure that Linux can shore up the low to middle and give them a buffer against NT while they retain the high. What they are neglecting is that in 5 to 6 years, and possibly much sooner, Linux will be scalable to those levels on a great number of platforms and their high end will not be in danger of NT, but of Linux. > There had been a push to port the Netscape servers to Linux. I believe > this has been pushed onto the back burner. Again I don't see Sun > jumping up and down about supporting Linux. =20 I don't think this is *that* important. Apache works very well and is very popular and can handle most of the stuff people want to do. The one app that I really want to see ported to Linux (besides Eudora for myself :-)) is Apple WebObjects. People may dismiss Apple as an enterprise player, but WebObjects is the most popular development enviornment for high-end middle ware on the net. It was the first and is still the best. Browse Apple's pages on it and look for yourself. > MS may fear Linux, but Sun > *should* fear Linux. At the very high end Sun will probably hold onto > an advantage for several years. At the ultrasparc II level, a dual > processor Merced running Linux could probably put a bite into Sun's > market share. As I remember, Linus said something along the lines of > '64-bit Linux? No problem! The inherent design of Linux will support > that naturally.' This is what major UNIX vendors are ignoring. But Sun is a major hardware business and their machines could still keep the profit margin healthy even if they shipped with Linux. > I have strayed a bit from where I started this post. To get back to > browsers, I don't see anybody providing a quality integrated browser > solution for Linux other than Netscape. Mozilla.org may come through, > but they haven't produced anything more than beta demos so far. My > guess is many people don't see the need for many of the bells and > whistles that modern browsers have. Many of the features of a browser > are hidden from the user, and are not currently in extensive use. =20 I don't want an integrated browser, and quite frankly, neither does anybody who knows a thing about UI. Microsoft had the right idea, ass backwards. They thought "Lets integrate the net into the OS by using a browser for the local machine. Wrong. Apple had the right idea: "Let's integrate the net into the OS by making the OS *part* of the net. > One > that I am most concerned with is the ability of IE to process VBscript. > If Bill gets sufficient control of the browser market he can make it so > that internet servers can be set up to generate pages containing > VBscript and ActiveX and function with most clients on the internet. If > that happens all browsers will have to process VBscript and ActiveX in > order to be viable competitors to IE. Most people won't want to haste I grok, but the battle is far from over, particularly since perl is still the lingua franca of dynamic web applications. But again, if you've ever seen WebObjects in action, or coded with it, you'd wonder why people use anything else. XML, DHTML and other standards, I believe, will prevail over VBscript primarily because of portability and standards. > with trying to find and run anything less capable than IE. In this > scenario Bill gains a tighter grip on the browser market, which he > already announced he will be charging you for in the future. Not only > that, do you really believe MS will provide the Unix community with a > version of IE that is as reliable and functional as the win32 version? > I don't. And I don't expect Bill will lift a finger to provide anything > viable for Linux. I don't think we'll nedd it, but it's wait and see right now. > I may just be paranoid. I don't have a full grasp of every aspect of > this technology, but I am going through IIS training, and have worked > with both Apache and SuiteSpot. I have worked with NT since it was in > Beta, and have also worked with Novell, Solaris (sparc and x86), and > Linux. Not to mention DOS and Windows 3.1. My instincts tell me there > is a real danger here. "Being paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to ge you" :-) I wish I knew who said this. Anyway, it's good to keep an eye on this. > For those who like to tell me that major organizations cannot run > reliably on NT, I checked today. The Network I am on is world wide, and > has more than 70 NT domains. I don't have NT related problems very > often on this network. I am not trying to sell NT. I *am* getting my > MCSE because I believe it is a professionally prudent thing to do. I > like Linux. It smells like freedom to me, and I love freedom. I'm just > trying to get some sober thinking going on about these subjects. My company Infonet runs some pretty major worldwide networks partly on NT. Sober thinking is what will decide Linux's fate, and I think we have some pretty good heads in the community. Also, since Linux isn't dependent on any company, and people are always going to hack, and it's GPL'ed (the *most* important thing about Linux), it's not going to go away. And it will always get better. Linux is like the Sixties, but rational. Idealism with a purpose *and* a plan. I'm a hacker. I like to hack and fiddle and prod and do stuff with my system just to see it work. The GPL made Linux *possible*. Freedom is the most important thing to me. It it were not about freedom, It would probably be a very tough decision for me to use BeOS as a client or Linux. I would write a lot more code for Be (like I should be doing :-)) if it were libre. --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * =20 Yep. I have a very active imagination; it's been a personal =20 condition of mine for years now. * -Bruce Sterling =20 * * * * * -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5638446923192288468==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Sat Apr 17 17:34:56 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Program to find all words in another words Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:34:56 -0700 Message-ID: <3718C640.BDE4F555@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Program to find all words in another words> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1108620360269125443==" --===============1108620360269125443== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve Crane wrote: >=20 > Does anyone know where I might find a program that can create a list of > all words made up from the letters in a given word? I could write a > program to generate a list and then run it against ispell but why bother > if someone else has already done it. An anagram generator. Look around on the net. I'll ask my friend (The Anagram Man :-)) if he knows of any free solutions and mail you. --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * =20 Yep. I have a very active imagination; it's been a personal =20 condition of mine for years now. * -Bruce Sterling =20 * * * * * -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1108620360269125443==-- From mperry@basin.com Sat Apr 17 17:37:05 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Mail filters in pine? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:37:05 -0700 Message-ID: <199904171737.KAA23052@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4641637878345842106==" --===============4641637878345842106== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17 Apr, Dwight Johnson wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Tina wrote: >=20 >> As I understand it it's possible to set up filters in pine, just as you >> can in Netscape Mail. However, I don't quite understand how it's done. >> Can someone point me in the right direction? >=20 > procmail is an application that can work with Pine to filter and/or > redirect mail. It is probably preinstalled on your SuSE Linux. Try > 'man procmail'. >=20 > Dwight > -- > Dwight Johnson All the Latest > dwj(a)linuxtoday.com Linux News > ------------------->>http://linuxtoday.com> Check out man procmailex also for some great examples of procmail recipes. If you like, you can find a good FAQ from searching for procmail off Yahoo!. There are also some good programs that take advantage of procmail listed there. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4641637878345842106==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 17 17:39:54 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] "autocad" for llinux Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:39:54 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990417173954.01038848@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0018978956068390243==" --===============0018978956068390243== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Any one know of any "autocad" software for linux , Are there any that are compatable or can conver to/from autocad files ? Thanks Samy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0018978956068390243==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 17 17:42:52 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Key executives plan to leave Netscape Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:42:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3718C81C.114166C7@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <37189C26.E5592415@tir.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1195817363393166933==" --===============1195817363393166933== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert Russell wrote: >=20 > I'm afraid that I'm a little limited in your professional area, but > programming was one of the things that caught my attention in Linux; C, > as well, and a few other languages, such as forth. Oh, Forth! I love that language. In 1980 I and two other business partners purchased the distributorship for a twelve state area for a product called SAVVY. It was a natural language-artificial intelligence database system, written in PolyForth. I started playing with the language after I read a book called "Learning Forth" by Dave Brodie. It was funny and informative, the best book on Forth I've read yet. With SAVVY I created a skeleton BIG-5 accounting system and payroll package that I bundled with the SAVVY peripheral card that I sold to a market of 3,200 Apple computer retail stores. Servicing those stores is the reason I got my private pilot's license.=20 =20 > A unix-like OS just seemed to good to pass up. The learning curve has > been pretty steep as I work in AutoCAD and programming has been limited > to very simple autolisp routines to aid in large projects, but as I said Last year I downloaded a professional CAD system for called Varkon, which had been available commercially for several years ($795/seat), but the Linux the Linux version binary was free. I had used Generic Cad and later AutoCad for Windows 1.0 for plotting crime scenes that I had been asked to do balistics investigations on (I used to teach Physics at a small midwestern college). A couple of months ago the Linux version source code was donated to the Open Source movement and placed under GNU license. It is an awesome CAD system, including 3-D renditions. It also has a very powerful basic-like script language for creating specialized scenes and computer driven animations.=20 > I see much more of a future in Linux than in the "other guy." It's fun being on the leading edge of the biggest wave swell on the planet! >=20 > Thanks for the welcome aboard! Thank Linus, he started it all! --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1195817363393166933==-- From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Sat Apr 17 17:43:22 1999 From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] "pax" command Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:43:22 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4618569539934518849==" --===============4618569539934518849== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, There is a command called "pax" in AIX. It can read and create ascii cpio and tar archives. Is it available for linux? thanks, -alexm -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4618569539934518849==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 17 17:43:26 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] wvdial falure as user , works only as root Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:43:26 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990417174326.00fad258@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5890496813023493156==" --===============5890496813023493156== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When accessing wvdial as my normal user I get a message /dev/modem access denied , however if I relog as root all worls well. What/how Do I fix this Also whenever I run yast it wipes out my resov.conf file ? any Ideas why ?? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5890496813023493156==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Sat Apr 17 17:50:24 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] OT: Fun in computing Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:50:24 -0700 Message-ID: <3718C9E0.A6C28948@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3718804B.1493D16B@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4885498287845526326==" --===============4885498287845526326== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > The biggest thing though, is the FUN Linux restores to computing! This reply is way off topic, but this is so right on. When I seriously started using Linux, I had grown sort of agitated and alienated from computers for awhile. I had started using a PC because I was studying computer science and had to program in DOS. The only fun I really had was inside of Turbo Pascal, Turbo C++ and Fractint. =20 As soon as I started using Linux as my primary OS, I realized how much fun computing really is and that I hadn't had so much fun with a computer since I gave my old Mac to my Mom. My Mom herself really hated computers, until I gave her the Mac and hooked it up to the Internet for her. Now she's addicted. It is my professional opinion ;-) that Windows simply robs a user of most of the joy that they can feel with using a computer. --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * =20 Yep. I have a very active imagination; it's been a personal =20 condition of mine for years now. * -Bruce Sterling =20 * * * * * -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4885498287845526326==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 17 18:04:26 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] OT: Fun in computing Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:04:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3718CD2A.A1CB98C5@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3718C9E0.A6C28948@pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8549116584471329941==" --===============8549116584471329941== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lunaslide wrote: >=20 > Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > The biggest thing though, is the FUN Linux restores to computing! >=20 > This reply is way off topic, but this is so right on. When I seriously > started using Linux, I had grown sort of agitated and alienated from > computers for awhile. I had started using a PC because I was studying > computer science and had to program in DOS. The only fun I really had > was inside of Turbo Pascal, Turbo C++ and Fractint. Wow, do great minds think alike or what? My first language was Fortran 64 in graduate college (1965-68) on a CDC 6600. I never touched computers again until I bought the first Apple sold in the state of Nebrask in 1978. I learned Apple BASIC on it and started writing business software. BASIC is somewhat boring and when Turbo Pascal 3.02a came out I got hooked on Pascal! The the work on Chaos came out and amoung the programs was Fractint and Dr. Barny Stone's IFS software. I spent hours playing with Fractint and exploring Mandelbrodt and Julian equations. On my old 386 it would take an hour to generate some of the drawings and/or drill down in them. Now, under Linux, the drawings and drilldown are essentially realtime. It really tells you how powerful PCs have become. >=20 > As soon as I started using Linux as my primary OS, I realized how much > fun computing really is and that I hadn't had so much fun with a > computer since I gave my old Mac to my Mom. My Mom herself really hated > computers, until I gave her the Mac and hooked it up to the Internet for > her. Now she's addicted. >=20 > It is my professional opinion ;-) that Windows simply robs a user of > most of the joy that they can feel with using a computer. I'll second that professional opinion with my own professional opinion! >=20 > -- > lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 > * * * * * * > Yep. I have a very active imagination; it's been a personal > condition of mine for years now. * -Bruce Sterling > * * * * * --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8549116584471329941==-- From creimer@rahul.net Sat Apr 17 19:04:00 1999 From: creimer@rahul.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] How do you patch the kernel.. 2.2.5 --> 2.2.6? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:04:00 -0700 Message-ID: <000301be8905$1f2df560$fe00005a@outlander> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1046244516524373766==" --===============1046244516524373766== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings! I found a situation that's not covered in any man pages (unless I'm not looking up the right word), in the readme files, or the handful of Linux books that I have. How do you apply a kernel patch file? I thought it would relatively easy to take the 2.2.6 patch and apply it to the full version of the 2.2.5 source code. I tried "patch" and "diff" but I guess those programs don't work on a "unified diff" file that supposed to be applied against a source code tree. Then again, maybe downloading the full 2.2.6 source code would've been easier... Thanks! Christopher Reimer -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1046244516524373766==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sat Apr 17 19:10:13 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:10:13 +0200 Message-ID: <3718DC95.20E1EC88@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.19990417205007.51f73b9c@mail1.mail.home.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7880514315702602943==" --===============7880514315702602943== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Ericson wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I installed squake for a couple of days ago and notist that I can only run > it as root. If I try to start is as an normal user I get a 'svgalib: Cannot > get I/O permissions' message at the console. How do I change so all, or > better some users can use svgalib? Please have a look at /usr/doc/packages/svgalib/, especially the 0_README file. Maybe this gives you a hint. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7880514315702602943==-- From hlarons@ComCAT.COM Sat Apr 17 19:15:57 1999 From: hlarons@ComCAT.COM To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Further to: [SuSE Linux] Man does not work anymore. Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:15:57 -0400 Message-ID: <19990417151557.D661@BeagleDog> In-Reply-To: <37165BBC.86187A@emma.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4970490316242557789==" --===============4970490316242557789== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Apr 15, 1999, Brian Fuller wrote: > Howard Arons wrote: > >=20 > > On Apr 15, 1999, Brian Fuller wrote: > > > > > > When I try to us 'man' I get: > > > > > > brian(a)papu:~ > man rm > > > Segmentation fault > > > brian(a)papu:~ > > >=20 > > Had the same problem. Run 'mandb -c' to recreate your man indices. > >=20 > > HTH >=20 > I just ran that getting: >=20 > brian(a)papu:~ > mandb -c > 0 man subdirectories contained newer manual pages. > 0 manual pages and 0 stray cats were added. > brian(a)papu:~ > Hmm. OK, try this (as root): find / -name 'index.bt' Mine are: /var/catman/X11R6/index.bt /var/catman/local/index.bt /var/catman/openwin/index.bt /var/catman/index.bt Rename those 'index.bt' files to 'index.bt.bak'. Now, run 'mandb'. If you use Midnite Commander you can use it to read=20 the mandb manpage /usr/man/mandb.gz for more info. Write me privately if this fails and we'll work on it some more, and=20 just post the answer to the SuSE list. One other question: is everything else working that you know of, or is=20 something else segfaulting? Howard Arons --=20 Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- Upgraded to kernel 2.0.36 Communications by Mutt 0.93.2i -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4970490316242557789==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sat Apr 17 19:16:33 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How do you patch the kernel.. 2.2.5 --> 2.2.6? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:16:33 +0200 Message-ID: <3718DE11.D3F2D4CB@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <000301be8905$1f2df560$fe00005a@outlander> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3381458678640303088==" --===============3381458678640303088== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Christopher D. Reimer" wrote: >=20 > Greetings! >=20 > I found a situation that's not covered in any man pages (unless I'm not > looking up the right word), in the readme files, or the handful of Linux > books that I have. >=20 > How do you apply a kernel patch file? >=20 > I thought it would relatively easy to take the 2.2.6 patch and apply it to > the full version of the 2.2.5 source code. I tried "patch" and "diff" but I > guess those programs don't work on a "unified diff" file that supposed to be > applied against a source code tree. Then again, maybe downloading the full > 2.2.6 source code would've been easier... Copy the patch file into the top level kernel source directory cd to the said directory. The patch programme has to be invoked with the -p1 parameter. zcat patch-2.2.6.gz | patch -p1 or gunzip patch-2.2.6.gz | patch -p1 or bzcat patch-2.2.6.bz2 | patch -p1 or bunzip patch-2.2.6.bz2 | patch -p1 or patch -p1 < patch-2.2.6 Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3381458678640303088==-- From bfootdav@bellsouth.net Sat Apr 17 19:21:13 1999 From: bfootdav@bellsouth.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Program to find all words in another words Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:21:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3718DF29.BECDE99@bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <3718C640.BDE4F555@pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1629012225207103774==" --===============1629012225207103774== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Steve Crane wrote: > > > > Does anyone know where I might find a program that can create a list of > > all words made up from the letters in a given word? I could write a > > program to generate a list and then run it against ispell but why bother > > if someone else has already done it. >=20 > An anagram generator. Look around on the net. I'll ask my friend (The > Anagram Man :-)) if he knows of any free solutions and mail you. You can find one at the Debian page. Look under stable/games for the program "an". I just downloaded and compiled it on my machine w/o any problems. David Bellows -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1629012225207103774==-- From g.rizzo@usa.net Sat Apr 17 19:58:02 1999 From: g.rizzo@usa.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: R: [SuSE Linux] Requirements for 2.2.5? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:58:02 +0200 Message-ID: <00a201be890d$1c87e200$07078a9d@gg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6828770936369554209==" --===============6828770936369554209== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh, thanks for replying! >Hi, Hi! :) >I am afraid I have to disagree. From kernel 2.2.4 to 2.2.5 is just a patch >level change. As I understand it, this means that there are no major new >features to be expected in 2.2.5 as compared with 2.2.4. I also run SuSE 6.0 >and had no problems with booting kernel 2.2.5, so the problem is not with the Oh, I suspected it. the patch is so small... >Since you apparently succeeded in building and installing the 2.2.4 kernel before, I >can only conclude that you did _not_ correctly compile and install the 2.2.5 Oh, I have 2.2.4 working perfectly. the point is that I made exactly the same passes for 2.0.36 , 2.2.0 ,2.2.1, 2.2.2, 2.2.3, 2.2.4 and 2.2.5... the others work, .5 doesn't... >By the way, >I consider it common sense to keep your previous, bootable kernel around. This >prevents you from having to depend on luck ;-) Me, too... now... :) >Still, better luck next time, >Tim. Yeah, that's the point, thanks. I'll keep trying. I wanted only to be sure that the problem wasn't dued to those old progs. That's all. Thanks for replying, anyway! :) >BTW: If you keep having problems with booting, can you be more specific >concerning the error messages, if any? No, none. It just writes 'starting lin...' (the name of my linux for lilo) and hangs. Mah. I can't even press ctrl-alt-canc, but have to press the reboot button on the case of my pc... Oh... I see that 2.2.6 is out... one can't finish troubling with a thing that they publish another one! M$, at least, publish a patch per year, so one can get use to the bugs he has, and even call them by name... I'm joking, don't e-mail-bomb me!!! ;) Best regards, Mano :) ---------------------------------- Germano Rizzo - g.rizzo(a)usa.net http://members.xoom.com/germano> webmaster of http://members.xoom.com/ACSpinea> Linux Registered User N=C2=B0 114445 Official Linux KDE Doc. Translator PLUTO member - www.pluto.linux.it ---------------------------------- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GE d-(--) s:- a-->? C++++>$ UL>+++$ P L+++>++++ E++ W+++ N+(++) ?o w---(+) !O M- ?V PS+ PE-- ?Y> PGP+ t-(--) ?5 X+ R tv- b+++ DI++ D+++ G++ e h! r@ y?* ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ht= tp://www.geekcode.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6828770936369554209==-- From jljr@globalfrontiers.com Sat Apr 17 20:10:21 1999 From: jljr@globalfrontiers.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] IPMasqurading + DOD Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:10:21 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2133905036007226569==" --===============2133905036007226569== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been using wvdial, which works well . However, I would like to to also have "dial on demand". I did get ipmasqurading=20 to work with wvdial, but when I switch to using the Suseppp with DOD selected , the sytem calls out immediately after boot up. Is there any program in linux that is similar to IN-JOY for OS/2? If not could someone suggest what I am doing wrong with the DOD? My goal is top have DOD and ipmasqurading so the other systems in this household can route through the SuSE box to our ISP. Any information that you can share will be sincerely appreciated. I believe I am getting close, but still missing something. thanks in advance=20 joe -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2133905036007226569==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sat Apr 17 20:34:38 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel Upgrade Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 22:34:38 +0200 Message-ID: <3718F05E.F2898D5A@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <19990416151619.25051.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3970450440151127479==" --===============3970450440151127479== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Keith Snape wrote: >=20 > I've posted previous messges in this forum concerning > my many myriad of problems with SuSE, all of my own > design due to hardware problems. I wanted to ask if > anyone knew if it was possible to find a patch for > 2.0.35 to 2.2.x=20 Sure there is. Have a look at kernel.org. But this would mean to retrieve and apply about 150 patches. To be honest: No, there is none. Get the latest kernel (2.2.6), have a lokk at the Documentation/Changes file to see if you need to upgrade packages and then configure and compile the new kernel. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3970450440151127479==-- From emarch@enteract.com Sat Apr 17 20:59:30 1999 From: emarch@enteract.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] gtk+ gtk_clist C code question Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:59:30 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3718DF29.BECDE99@bellsouth.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9195316992469463410==" --===============9195316992469463410== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im writing a C/C++ program using gtk+ and im going nuts trying to find out what=20 row is selected in a clist box. gtk_clist_get_text() will return the text for a=20 given row, but how can i find where the cursor is on the row?? thanks in advance you C guru's !=20 Best Regards,=20 Ed //------------------------------------------------------------------------ // Edward March Jr. WB9RAA -- Mt. Prospect, IL =20 // // ***> http://www.enteract.com/~emarch> // ***> http://www.bmtmicro.com/catalog/c= lone.html> // // Win95 or Better, I chose better!=20 // I Run OS/2 Warp 3.0 & 4.0 and Linux S.u.S.E. 5.3 and 6.0 //------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9195316992469463410==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Sat Apr 17 20:59:53 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel Upgrade Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:59:53 -0700 Message-ID: <3718F649.427FC220@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <19990416151619.25051.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1145969734585513188==" --===============1145969734585513188== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Keith Snape wrote: >=20 > I've posted previous messges in this forum concerning > my many myriad of problems with SuSE, all of my own > design due to hardware problems. I wanted to ask if > anyone knew if it was possible to find a patch for > 2.0.35 to 2.2.x (the one AFTER the Samsung IDE Cdrom > bug was fixed). If this rings a bell with anyone, or > they know what I'm talking about, let me know wouldja! To move from a 2.0 kernel to 2.2, there are quite a few changes needed.=20 First, go to suse's ftp site and download all the updates, especially the kernmod, devs, and lx_suse packages. Best to get all the updates.=20 The lx_suse package contains the source for the 2.2.5 kernel. You will need the full source; it is not possible to patch from 2.0 to 2.2.=20 Also, the kernmod package is important because the kernel module tools in it allow you to use modules under 2.2. The old mod tools will not work. Another good bet is to go to www.linuxhq.com and readup on the necessary changes to upgrade to 2.2. Read all the docs relevent. --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * =20 Yep. I have a very active imagination; it's been a personal =20 condition of mine for years now. * -Bruce Sterling =20 * * * * * -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1145969734585513188==-- From emarch@enteract.com Sat Apr 17 21:02:34 1999 From: emarch@enteract.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] OT: Fun in computing Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:02:34 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3718CD2A.A1CB98C5@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5999700799456656421==" --===============5999700799456656421== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > It is my professional opinion ;-) that Windows simply robs a user of > > most of the joy that they can feel with using a computer. >=20 > I'll second that professional opinion with my own professional opinion! >=20 Wow so well said... once i de-microsfted my life im so much happier playing with linux and the learning curve is back again ! couldn't agree more so well said. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5999700799456656421==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Sat Apr 17 21:23:03 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Query about suse gnome packages Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:23:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3718FBB7.DE2D09D5@pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7065794043361346034==" --===============7065794043361346034== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yo, all. I just downloaded a whole gaggle of update packages from suse while on the DS3 at work and I got all the gnome packages. Has anyone tried installing these? I tried previously installing the suse packages from the German site on the Gnome site, and they broke gtk and glib. =20 I don't want to deal with that again, so I'm wondering what kind of trouble people have encountered. To complicate matters, I've been building some other gtk apps and have built gtk 1.2 and glib 1.2 binaries that I don't want to disrupt. Any thoughts? --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * =20 My songs are of time and distance. The sadness is in you. * =20 Watch my arms. There is only the dance. These things you *=20 treasure are shells. * -Count Zero, W Gibson * =20 * * * * * -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7065794043361346034==-- From mperry@basin.com Sat Apr 17 21:59:48 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Query about suse gnome packages Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:59:48 -0700 Message-ID: <199904172159.OAA23784@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: <3718FBB7.DE2D09D5@pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6725277679577599468==" --===============6725277679577599468== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17 Apr, lunaslide wrote: >=20 > Yo, all. I just downloaded a whole gaggle of update packages from suse > while on the DS3 at work and I got all the gnome packages. Has anyone > tried installing these? I tried previously installing the suse packages > from the German site on the Gnome site, and they broke gtk and glib. =20 >=20 > I don't want to deal with that again, so I'm wondering what kind of > trouble people have encountered. To complicate matters, I've been > building some other gtk apps and have built gtk 1.2 and glib 1.2 > binaries that I don't want to disrupt. Any thoughts? >=20 The suse gnome rpms break the earlier rpms that Jan did for the German site. I am unsure about a course of action. I backed out of all the suse rpms completely and restored the system to Jan's rpms by having to rpm --force all the things. This was not a good thing. You can actually install the gtkn and glibn as well as gtk and glib. The authors knowingly provided this so that a later version could be installed for applications. This was communicated to me on the gnome mailing list by a suse rep. I had problems using rpms with the tarball gtk and glib libs installed. I went back and installed the glibn and gtkn and then placed the gtk and glib rpms from the suse 6 cd set on my system also. This made it possible for me to install gimp 1.0.2 from the cd set. As far as the suse rpms go, I have no answer. I think I will back out of all the gnome rpms that Jan did and try to use the suse ones. I installed the core, the libs, and control center and gnome broke completely. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6725277679577599468==-- From tux@datapro.co.za Sat Apr 17 22:12:56 1999 From: tux@datapro.co.za To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Program to find all words in another words Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 00:12:56 +0200 Message-ID: <19990418001256.B2644@datapro.co.za> In-Reply-To: <3718DF29.BECDE99@bellsouth.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7609527855302342838==" --===============7609527855302342838== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 03:21:13PM -0400, David Bellows wrote: >=20 > You can find one at the Debian page. Look under stable/games for the > program "an". I just downloaded and compiled it on my machine w/o any > problems. That was just what I was looking for, thanks. --=20 Steve Crane stevec(a)netlane.com http://www.datapro.co.za/~stevec> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7609527855302342838==-- From creimer@rahul.net Sat Apr 17 23:23:34 1999 From: creimer@rahul.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How do you patch the kernel.. 2.2.5 --> 2.2.6? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:23:34 -0700 Message-ID: <001401be8929$b053d0e0$fe00005a@outlander> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] How do you patch the kernel.. 2.2.5 --> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4853893039440471063==" --===============4853893039440471063== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: hhv To: SLE Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How do you patch the kernel.. 2.2.5 --> 2.2.6 >Copy the patch file into the top level kernel source directory >cd to the said directory. >The patch programme has to be invoked with the -p1 parameter. > > zcat patch-2.2.6.gz | patch -p1 >or gunzip patch-2.2.6.gz | patch -p1 >or bzcat patch-2.2.6.bz2 | patch -p1 >or bunzip patch-2.2.6.bz2 | patch -p1 >or patch -p1 < patch-2.2.6 Thanks. It turns out the patch file directory structure was a bit different than the directory structure that I have for the source code. I had to create a symbolic link to that mimics the patch file directory to get the content to merge with my current directory structure without having to rewrite the patch file. Christopher Reimer -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4853893039440471063==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sat Apr 17 23:38:57 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] OT:Logical parser, a pet project Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:38:57 -0400 Message-ID: <37191B91.EF0B0C48@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1510658391918152230==" --===============1510658391918152230== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Folks, I've had this project in the back of my mind for about a year now. I never seem to get enough time to work in it. I am offering up an outline of the initial objectives so that I might find other people who are interested in contributing. I simply don't have the time to do it myself. I apologize if I am not as clear as I would like to, or should, be regarding all aspects of what I am attempting. I am trying to write a "logical parser" that will read in symbolic logic statements and parse them into trees. For example it would read A & B and create a tree with & as the root, A as the left child, and B as the right child. After the tree is created I want to evaluate (traverse) the tree for every possible combination of truth values. In my example that would be A=3D1, B=3D1, result=3D1; A=3D1, B=3D0, result=3D0; and etc. H= ere's a URL to a graphical representation of what I'm talking about: [ http://www.geocities.com:80/Heartland/Estates/2913/calc/treea_38.h= tm> ] There are 39 slides total, including the summary. You may wish to look at a few of them. I have a 21" monitor with 1600 x 1200 res, so the slides may seem a little large to folks with more limited resources. There are links at the bottom of each slide that allow you to navigate the sequence of iterations. I suggest looking at the first few slides and the last one in order to get a good feel for what is supposed to happen. The slides were developed using Star Office 4.0. & should have precedence over ||, so the expression that created the tree would be A & B & C & D || E & F || G. (I hope I'm doing this right.) I came up with an algorithm that I think will create the tree. (I believe the one I dredged up is the correct one.) Here it is: truct node{ char* token; int value; //holds boolean value node* lc; //left child node* rc; //right child }; initilize //get the first input token and set up the pointers curr =3D new node(token) //points to the current data object and gets the value of token from input root =3D curr //points to the root data object sr =3D curr //points to while curr =3D new node(token)->name !=3D EOL // stop when you run out of input { if curr->token is var // us the token a variable? e.g. A, B, or C sr->rc=3Dcurr if sr->token =3D=3D || sr=3Dsr->rc else if curr->token =3D=3D & curr->lc =3D sr sr=3Dcurr if sr->lc =3D=3D root root =3D sr else root->rc =3D sr else if curr->token =3D=3D || curr->lc =3D root sr =3D curr if sr->lc =3D=3D root root =3D sr } "||" may be a bad choice of symbols for "or". That really doesn't matter at this point. If you wish to test the algorithm just create some logical string and then run it through. My slides were produced by doing just that. One question I have regarding an implementation of this is whether I should attempt to use OOP, messages and methods for the act of adding children and redirecting the root pointer etc., or just use structures and functions to do the job. I would love to try both approaches and see what happens in each. Currently I don't deal with parentheses. My long-term objective is to algorithmically code most of foundational mathematics. Who knows where this may lead? Perhaps nowhere but my getting flamed for posting it here. :-\ This may not be exactly SuSE related, but I've got to start somewhere. I figure I should start with folks I already know. If people object to my/our discussing this on this list I will try to find another place to work on it. BTW, I don't know if this is legally binding, but this algorithm is hereby GPL'ed. -- http:/= /www.winehq.com> | I think. http://www= .suse.com> | I think I am. http://www.k= de.org> | Therefore I am. ht= tp://samba.anu.edu.au> | I think? - Moody Blues -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1510658391918152230==-- From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Sat Apr 17 23:41:03 1999 From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:41:03 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.19990417205007.51f73b9c@mail1.mail.home.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0743780360335190423==" --===============0743780360335190423== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, # chmod 4555 squake -alexm On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, John Ericson wrote: > I installed squake for a couple of days ago and notist that I can only run > it as root. If I try to start is as an normal user I get a 'svgalib: Cannot > get I/O permissions' message at the console. How do I change so all, or > better some users can use svgalib? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0743780360335190423==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sun Apr 18 00:13:19 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How do you patch the kernel.. 2.2.5 --> 2.2.6? Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 02:13:19 +0200 Message-ID: <3719239F.DFCD6F5F@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <001401be8929$b053d0e0$fe00005a@outlander> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4589974439314622412==" --===============4589974439314622412== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Christopher D. Reimer" wrote: > Thanks. It turns out the patch file directory structure was a bit different > than the directory structure that I have for the source code. I had to > create a symbolic link to that mimics the patch file directory to get the > content to merge with my current directory structure without having to > rewrite the patch file. Such thing is never necessary. For applying the patch the name of your kernel sources directory is irrelevant, as long as the patch resides in this directory and you invoke patch from inside this directory and with the -p1 parameter. This parameter strips the first directory component. And all other components are equal to those of your source tree. Henning -- H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4589974439314622412==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 18 00:24:08 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] wvdial falure as user , works only as root Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:24:08 -0700 Message-ID: <199904180024.RAA24128@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990417174326.00fad258@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3567360770562723251==" --===============3567360770562723251== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17 Apr, Samy Elashmawy wrote: >=20 > When accessing wvdial as my normal user I get a message /dev/modem access > denied , however if I relog as root all worls well. >=20 > What/how Do I fix this >=20 > Also whenever I run yast it wipes out my resov.conf file ? >=20 > any Ideas why ?? > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> YAST has a control to "beautify" or generate files like /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf. Check out YAST -> System Administration -> Change System Configuration or something like that... :) =20 --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3567360770562723251==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sun Apr 18 00:36:14 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] 64-bit GCC? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:36:14 -0400 Message-ID: <371928FE.76F13CED@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3644072074176185619==" --===============3644072074176185619== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This has been bugging me ever since I discussed KDE on solaris 7 with someone. He reminded me that GCC compiles 32-bit object code. Is there a 64-bit GCC in the works? This is very important for the future port of Linux to Merced and the like. I have the feeling that someone has to be doing something along these lines. Anybody know? Steve -- http:/= /www.winehq.com> | I think. http://www= .suse.com> | I think I am. http://www.k= de.org> | Therefore I am. ht= tp://samba.anu.edu.au> | I think? - Moody Blues -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3644072074176185619==-- From creimer@rahul.net Sun Apr 18 00:43:19 1999 From: creimer@rahul.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How do you patch the kernel.. 2.2.5 --> 2.2.6? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:43:19 -0700 Message-ID: <000b01be8934$eb9ea520$fe00005a@outlander> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] How do you patch the kernel.. 2.2.5 --> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8348688678131703685==" --===============8348688678131703685== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Such thing is never necessary. For applying the patch the >name of your kernel sources directory is irrelevant, as >long as the patch resides in this directory and you invoke >patch from inside this directory and with the -p1 parameter. >This parameter strips the first directory component. And >all other components are equal to those of your source tree. Strange. It didn't work like that... I kept getting prompt for which files that I wanted to get patched. After examining the directory structure, I move the patch to /usr/src and created a symlink v2.2.5 --> linux. Unless I didn't have the file in the right location, I had the patch in /usr/src/linux. Christopher Reimer -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8348688678131703685==-- From creimer@rahul.net Sun Apr 18 00:53:57 1999 From: creimer@rahul.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] What's libstdc++s0.2.9 when installing KDE 1.1.1? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:53:57 -0700 Message-ID: <000c01be8935$f2a31a80$fe00005a@outlander> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2325000903545665604==" --===============2325000903545665604== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings! I grabbed the RPMs for KDE 1.1.1 from the SUSE site and kept running into a dependency problem with libstdc++s0.2.9... which I don't have! I have SUSE 5.3 with nearly all the C++ utilities installed and the 2.2.6 kernel. Should I have this already or do I need to grab it from somewhere? Thanks! Christopher Reimer -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2325000903545665604==-- From ozyman@easyliving.com Sun Apr 18 01:05:39 1999 From: ozyman@easyliving.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] wvdial falure as user , works only as root Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:05:39 -0500 Message-ID: <37192FE3.4F3EB2A7@easyliving.com> In-Reply-To: <199904180024.RAA24128@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5308208329163842375==" --===============5308208329163842375== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Perry wrote: >=20 > > When accessing wvdial as my normal user I get a message /dev/modem access > > denied , however if I relog as root all worls well. > > > > What/how Do I fix this >=20 > YAST has a control to "beautify" or generate files like /etc/hosts and > /etc/resolv.conf. Check out YAST -> System Administration -> Change > System Configuration or something like that... :) or chmod on /dev/modem };-> =20 > -- > Michael Perry > mperry(a)basin.com > ---------------------- >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5308208329163842375==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Apr 18 01:13:27 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: How do you patch the kernel.. 2.2.5 --> 2.2.6? Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 03:13:27 +0200 Message-ID: <19990418031327.B9150@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <3718DE11.D3F2D4CB@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3280971980871865684==" --===============3280971980871865684== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 21:16 +0200, hhv wrote: > Copy the patch file into the top level kernel source directory > cd to the said directory. > The patch programme has to be invoked with the -p1 parameter. >=20 > or gunzip patch-2.2.6.gz | patch -p1 ^ Shouldn't there be a -c? > or bunzip patch-2.2.6.bz2 | patch -p1 ^ dito. Ciao, Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3280971980871865684==-- From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sun Apr 18 01:59:14 1999 From: dwj@linuxtoday.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel Upgrade Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:59:14 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3718F649.427FC220@pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5633063488832639829==" --===============5633063488832639829== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, lunaslide wrote: =20 > To move from a 2.0 kernel to 2.2, there are quite a few changes needed.=20 > First, go to suse's ftp site and download all the updates, especially > the kernmod, devs, and lx_suse packages. Best to get all the updates.=20 I looked around at ftp.suse.com and didn't see the required updates. How about a roadmap? I am using SuSE 5.2. Dwight -- http:/= /linuxtoday.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5633063488832639829==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sun Apr 18 02:07:51 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: How do you patch the kernel.. 2.2.5 --> 2.2.6? Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:07:51 +0200 Message-ID: <37193E77.524E3762@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <19990418031327.B9150@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5544411440292254171==" --===============5544411440292254171== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan Troeger wrote: > > or gunzip patch-2.2.6.gz | patch -p1 > ^ Shouldn't there be a -c? > > or bunzip patch-2.2.6.bz2 | patch -p1 > ^ dito. Sorry, yes. You are right of course. Forgot about that. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5544411440292254171==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sun Apr 18 02:36:07 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PC World News: Sub-$500 Linux System Ships Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 22:36:07 -0400 Message-ID: <37194517.F936CB84@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2180758364658289825==" --===============2180758364658289825== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.pcworld.com/cg= i-bin/pcwtoday?ID=3D10512> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2180758364658289825==-- From mofohawk@midwest.idsonline.com Sun Apr 18 02:51:15 1999 From: mofohawk@midwest.idsonline.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: How do you patch the kernel.. 2.2.5 --> 2.2.6? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:51:15 -0500 Message-ID: <4.1.19990417214823.0097e4d0@209.224.247.5> In-Reply-To: <37193E77.524E3762@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1042201171753847329==" --===============1042201171753847329== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can I ask you a question about SuSE Subscriptions? From what I understand is you pay for the 3-4 distributions a year, do you get the whole product box wi= th each one or a scaled down version? Do you pay a one time fee or do you pay for each issue individually in the subscription? Simply curious, .-=3D-. .-=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D--- mOfOhAwK //||\\\ __ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D--- Tim Pintsch ////|\\\\( *`-, =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D--- mofohawk(a)thevortex.com //////||\\'~ ( =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D-- ay293(a)yfn.ysu.edu ////////\\: ; =3D=3D=3D- mofohawk(a)audiophile.com =20 //////// \) / =3D=3D- http://www.audiophile.= com/mofohawk> =20 / /// /..\%\% "With a gentleman I am always a gentleman =20 / // /|/` ~ ~ and a half, and with a fraud I try to be a fraud=20 / '` and a half." - Otto Edward Leopold von Bismarck =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1042201171753847329==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sun Apr 18 03:07:01 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: How do you patch the kernel.. 2.2.5 -->2.2.6? Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 05:07:01 +0200 Message-ID: <37194C55.431ECA80@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990417214823.0097e4d0@209.224.247.5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6463852841568104056==" --===============6463852841568104056== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tim Pintsch wrote: >=20 > Can I ask you a question about SuSE Subscriptions? From what I understand is > you pay for the 3-4 distributions a year, do you get the whole product box = with > each one or a scaled down version? Do you pay a one time fee or do you pay = for > each issue individually in the subscription? You certainly always get the whole product. There are _never_ stripped down Versions. Even low cost version for students and people who grade up, are 100 0dentical to normal versions. I always buy onetime versions. But I divide the price by sharing the thing with two friends. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6463852841568104056==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 18 03:29:16 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] "autocad" for llinux Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:29:16 -0700 Message-ID: <199904180329.UAA25938@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990417173954.01038848@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7484257680209972572==" --===============7484257680209972572== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17 Apr, Samy Elashmawy wrote: >=20 > =09 > Any one know of any "autocad" software for linux , Are there any that are > compatable or can conver to/from autocad files ? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Samy > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Sure. Check out www.xnet.com/~blatura/linapps.shtml. There are at least three I know of. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7484257680209972572==-- From john.ericson@home.se Sun Apr 18 03:50:07 1999 From: john.ericson@home.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:50:07 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19990417205007.51f73b9c@mail1.mail.home.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6508839517296212318==" --===============6508839517296212318== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I installed squake for a couple of days ago and notist that I can only run it as root. If I try to start is as an normal user I get a 'svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions' message at the console. How do I change so all, or better some users can use svgalib? / John UIN: 7325429 E-MAIL: john.ericson(a)home.se URL: http:/hem2.passagen.se/highlndr -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6508839517296212318==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Sun Apr 18 04:08:12 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] patching.... Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 00:08:12 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7174625050110410337==" --===============7174625050110410337== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All Im having a hell of a time applying a color patch for pine. Ive managed to ./build lnx a fresh version of pine4.02 so I could have the source to apply against. I was able to apply the suse .dif patch but the color dosnt to want to take here is the output of my temp dir for building pine /3/pine4.02> ls -a CPYRIGHT Makefile.Linux Makefile.Linux.orig README bin build build.cmd contrib doc imap makefile pico pine pine4-colour.patch pine4.02.dif ################################ I take it I should apply the color patch *before* ./building lnx ? the patch I have came from http://www.softwolves.= pp.se/pine.shtml> and there is a little how to apply the patch at the bottom of the page any Ideas..? Ive tried to apply the patch in just about every conceivable format. Im really appoaching insanity (err ummm high FUN status with this one) thanks rob Linux Homepage http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM= .htm> S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7174625050110410337==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sun Apr 18 04:57:42 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IPMasqurading + DOD Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 00:57:42 -0400 Message-ID: <37196646.8EA8F13C@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9086683884942976365==" --===============9086683884942976365== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joe, Wow, this is ancient history to me. I have diald set up on one of my boxes and use it in conjunction with ip masq. The biggest problem I had was getting the typos out of the dialing string in the diald.conf. I believe this is covered well in the SuSE book. There may also be a howto or mini-howto on setting this up. I am sure you can do this 'cause I use it all the time. If you still need help tomorrow, I will see if I can figure out all the components necessary for my solution. I suck at modem related stuff. I'm not sure why, but is a real weakness for me. Nonetheless, I will attempt to help. Steve jljr(a)globalfrontiers.com wrote: > I have been using wvdial, which works well . However, I would like to > to also have "dial on demand". I did get ipmasqurading > to work with wvdial, but when I switch to using the Suseppp with > DOD selected , the sytem calls out immediately after boot up. > > Is there any program in linux that is similar to IN-JOY for > OS/2? > > If not could someone suggest what I am doing wrong with the > DOD? My goal is top have DOD and ipmasqurading so the > other systems in this household can route through the SuSE > box to our ISP. > > Any information that you can share will be sincerely appreciated. > I believe I am getting close, but still missing something. > > thanks in advance > > joe > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- http:/= /www.winehq.com> | I think. http://www= .suse.com> | I think I am. http://www.k= de.org> | Therefore I am. ht= tp://samba.anu.edu.au> | I think? - Moody Blues -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9086683884942976365==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Sun Apr 18 05:14:37 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel Upgrade Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 22:14:37 -0700 Message-ID: <37196A3D.E5414D64@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7233397798552115256==" --===============7233397798552115256== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dwight Johnson wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, lunaslide wrote: >=20 > > To move from a 2.0 kernel to 2.2, there are quite a few changes needed. > > First, go to suse's ftp site and download all the updates, especially > > the kernmod, devs, and lx_suse packages. Best to get all the updates. >=20 > I looked around at ftp.suse.com and didn't see the required updates. > How about a roadmap? I am using SuSE 5.2. Sorry bro. It maybe time to upgrade to 6.x. 6.1 should have all that you're looking for. I couldn't begin to tell you what stuff you would need to upgrade to use a 2.2 kernel. --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * =20 My songs are of time and distance. The sadness is in you. * =20 Watch my arms. There is only the dance. These things you *=20 treasure are shells. * -Count Zero, W Gibson * =20 * * * * * -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7233397798552115256==-- From senthil@easi.soft.net Sun Apr 18 05:17:00 1999 From: senthil@easi.soft.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:47:00 +0530 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37189899.816C55EC@tir.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2865311185376051405==" --===============2865311185376051405== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does that mean even if I built a new kernel for SMP, Celeron will not support it ????? 'coz I am planning for a Dual processor. Regards, Senthil Vel On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Robert Russell wrote: >=20 > There is one short coming to the Celeron. The Celeron will not support > SMP. I am told as that has been disabled, that is certain "connections" > have been broken intentionally by Intel. >=20 > Reagards, >=20 > Bob -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2865311185376051405==-- From michael.doerner@clear.net.nz Sun Apr 18 06:08:07 1999 From: michael.doerner@clear.net.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Linux server in a small business env. Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:08:07 +1200 Message-ID: <000001be8961$d4656380$0b00a8c0@pc001.baypc.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5142212616462896950==" --===============5142212616462896950== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I need a few hints&tips for my scenario of a total (Linux) server solution for small businesses. There will be only a dialup connection to the ISP available (modem or perhaps ISDN with dial on demand) from the server. No additional modems on single client PCs! Server functions which I would like to use Linux for ... but how to do this? - file&print: OK, no question that Samba does a great job there; running fine here - Intranet server: also solved with Apache here - Proxy server: as far as I understand Squid will do this as a http proxy server (only)... BUT I try to understand whether I can get a similar functionality of products from the Windows world like Wingate here in Linux? Wingate (and there are plenty of similar products) offer also a kind of proxy for the desktops email clients (Outlook, Netscape email, etc) which means that in very small offices where there might be only 2 or 3 separate email accounts (POP3) available, the client PC doesn't need his own dedicated modem. When they check their single, remote mailbox at the ISP their email clients requests go through Wingate. This is not a modem sharing which would end up in an exclusive usage of the modem at that time for a single user. This is proxying all Internet access requests through the server and therefore this single dialup connection can be used from various client PCs with different applications at the same time (as long as bandwidth will allow). When the organisation grows, they might want to replace these single email accounts with an own email domain, hosted by the ISP and giving each LAN user now his own email account for external and internal email. Therefore it comes to the next server question ... - Email server: As far as I understand, Sendmail is the typical MTA in the UNIX/Linux world for this (and there also seem to be other products available as I have read here). Would Sendmail as an MTA be able to give all LAN clients (Outlook, Netscape, etc.) email access for internal & external emailing - still over the above mentioned dialup connection? If yes, will we have to do this by starting with our own domain name or could we start by collecting the mails from various POP3 accounts and distributing these mails to the internal LAN clients? Of course an own domain would be preferred and wants to be used in the longer view. - Faxing: (Hylafax seems to be the server part for this?) but I haven't read enough for this and I better do that before asking. Thanks for any answers and your patience with this long mail Regards, Michael Doerner -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5142212616462896950==-- From creimer@rahul.net Sun Apr 18 06:14:47 1999 From: creimer@rahul.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 23:14:47 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01be8962$d47b4000$fe00005a@outlander> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ??> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2745048684838147587==" --===============2745048684838147587== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: S K SENTHIL VEL To: Robert Russell Cc: Rachel Greenham ; suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? > > >Does that mean even if I built a new kernel for SMP, Celeron will not >support it ????? 'coz I am planning for a Dual processor. Celeron cannot do SMP unless you do some special hardware modifications to reconnect the broken connections that allow SMP. Get either a regular P2 or P3 for SMP, or get a Celeron now and replace it with a dual P2/P3 in the future. Christopher Reimer -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2745048684838147587==-- From wolfsong@blaze.ca Sun Apr 18 06:22:24 1999 From: wolfsong@blaze.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] wvdial falure as user , works only as root Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 23:22:24 -0700 Message-ID: <37197A1F.DDE30E98@blaze.ca> In-Reply-To: <37192FE3.4F3EB2A7@easyliving.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4741545136842238699==" --===============4741545136842238699== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Allen Carpenter wrote: > > When accessing wvdial as my normal user I get a message /dev/modem access > > denied , however if I relog as root all worls well. > > > > What/how Do I fix this Change permissions for /dev/modem, as Michael suggested, AND dev/ttyS# to wh= ich dev/modem is linked. It helps to change the permissions for /etc/wvdial.conf , /etc/host.conf, & /etc/ppp/options. Hope this helps -- islandwolf "live from the den of ubiquity" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4741545136842238699==-- From nickek@algonet.se Sun Apr 18 06:32:38 1999 From: nickek@algonet.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] wvdial falure as user , works only as root Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:32:38 +0200 Message-ID: <99041808331600.04772@jupiter> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990417174326.00fad258@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7219172006936716612==" --===============7219172006936716612== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Samy Elashmawy wrote: > When accessing wvdial as my normal user I get a message /dev/modem access > denied , however if I relog as root all worls well. >=20 > What/how Do I fix this Put yourself in the "dialout"-group! /Nikodemus >=20 > Also whenever I run yast it wipes out my resov.conf file ? >=20 > any Ideas why ?? > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7219172006936716612==-- From mwagnon1@home.com Sun Apr 18 06:54:50 1999 From: mwagnon1@home.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Xwrapper problem Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 23:54:50 -0700 Message-ID: <371981BA.67C814BF@home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5107753753061412247==" --===============5107753753061412247== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all: I just installed SuSE 6 and I am having problems getting X to run. I couldn't run SaX or XF86Setup at all, so I used XF86Config. I went through the whole process without a hitch, but when I tried to start X via startx I got: /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper: error in loading shared libraries libgz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory Shouldn't everthing I needed to get X running have been installed during the initial installation? If not, where might I find out how to fix it? TIA Mark -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5107753753061412247==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Sun Apr 18 07:00:01 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:00:01 -1000 Message-ID: <371982F1.62A4588A@iname.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8950215131818048333==" --===============8950215131818048333== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable S K SENTHIL VEL wrote: >=20 > Does that mean even if I built a new kernel for SMP, Celeron will not > support it ????? 'coz I am planning for a Dual processor. >=20 > Regards, > Senthil Vel >=20 > On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Robert Russell wrote: >=20 > > > > There is one short coming to the Celeron. The Celeron will not support > > SMP. I am told as that has been disabled, that is certain "connections" > > have been broken intentionally by Intel. > > > > Reagards, > > > > Bob I saw a web site in Japan that detailed overclocking two Celeron 300A's to 500 Mhz. Required soldering=20 microfine wire on the CPU. If you're up to it, I'll look for the site again. Personally, since the difference between two PII 333 MHz and two Celeron 333 MHz is=20 only $70, it's not worth it to me. That's why I'm building a dual Pentium II system. --=20 George Toft http://gtoft.dynip.com/LinuxAdvocate= /> __ __ _ __ __ __ ___ ___ | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / -o) | | | | | \_| | | | | | \ \/ / (o- /\\ | |__ | | | | | |_| | / /\ \ //\ _\_v |_____||__| |__|\___| \_______| /__/ \__\ v_/_ Don't fear the penguins... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8950215131818048333==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Sun Apr 18 07:17:11 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Prodigal Son Returns Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:17:11 -1000 Message-ID: <371986F7.F8C4ED6C@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3849665075051238541==" --===============3849665075051238541== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm sorry for chasing after the money and abandoning the one true Linux. I was confused. So what really changed my mind? My Red Hat box was my router to the net via cable modem. I thought I had it pretty secure (TCP-wrappers with a deny all policy, firewall, and only telnet and ftp available in inetd.conf) and all errata applied, but lo and=20 behold, the "Millenium Internet Worm" got in and=20 attacked my LAN and a whole slew of machines on the=20 'Net. My ISP sent me a nastygram telling me to=20 knock-off the hacking. In the post-mortem, guess what was completely unaffected (except for making my logs bigger) - all of my SuSE 5.3 boxes. So now I have SuSE 6.0 on my router and I gave Red Hat the boot. More information on this worm is here: http://gtoft.dynip.com/worm/> --=20 George Toft http://gtoft.dynip.com/LinuxAdvocate= /> __ __ _ __ __ __ ___ ___ | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / -o) | | | | | \_| | | | | | \ \/ / (o- /\\ | |__ | | | | | |_| | / /\ \ //\ _\_v |_____||__| |__|\___| \_______| /__/ \__\ v_/_ Don't fear the penguins... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3849665075051238541==-- From mofohawk@midwest.idsonline.com Sun Apr 18 07:44:20 1999 From: mofohawk@midwest.idsonline.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux server in a small business env. Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 02:44:20 -0500 Message-ID: <4.1.19990418023223.009812b0@209.224.247.5> In-Reply-To: <000001be8961$d4656380$0b00a8c0@pc001.baypc.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2835234947339543014==" --===============2835234947339543014== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 01:08 AM 4/18/99 , Michael Doerner wrote: >I try to understand whether I can get a similar functionality of products >from the Windows world like Wingate here in Linux? >Wingate (and there are plenty of similar products) offer also a kind of >proxy for the desktops email clients (Outlook, Netscape email, etc) which >means that in very small offices where there might be only 2 or 3 separate >email accounts (POP3) available, the client PC doesn't need his own >dedicated modem. When they check their single, remote mailbox at the ISP >their email clients requests go through Wingate. This is not a modem sharing >which would end up in an exclusive usage of the modem at that time for a >single user. This is proxying all Internet access requests through the >server and therefore this single dialup connection can be used from various >client PCs with different applications at the same time (as long as >bandwidth will allow). For a buisiness application, I would almost recommend a low cost hardware router, but it looks like in this situation you'll be dealing with dynamic IP's. In which case I would look for a router which handles NAT... I am sure that there are linux programs out there that could handle this, but I think in this situation you probably want something that will work the job for you so that you will spend minimal site time. I would try to sell these people on either A. An ISDN router which will cost more in the short term, but will be worth its weight in gold in the long term which will handle NAT, and allow you to use it as a real router when they are ready to expand, or B. use software which I know of no stable buisiness solution in this situation myself. >When the organisation grows, they might want to replace these single email >accounts with an own email domain, hosted by the ISP and giving each LAN >user now his own email account for external and internal email. Therefore it >comes to the next server question ... >- Email server: >As far as I understand, Sendmail is the typical MTA in the UNIX/Linux world >for this (and there also seem to be other products available as I have read >here). >Would Sendmail as an MTA be able to give all LAN clients (Outlook, Netscape, >etc.) email access for internal & external emailing - still over the above >mentioned dialup connection? As long as it is a dedicated connection with Static IP addresses in which case you are almost definately looking at a router, or a software router alternative. >If yes, will we have to do this by starting with our own domain name or >could we start by collecting the mails from various POP3 accounts and >distributing these mails to the internal LAN clients? Of course an own >domain would be preferred and wants to be used in the longer view. In the situation where you get a dedicated access you can run your own e-mail server locally from which they can pop and SMTP as much as they like. keeping it with the ISP would be the easy way out, if you can spare a computer for an e-mail server would be the most economical. >- Faxing: (Hylafax seems to be the server part for this?) but I haven't read >enough for this and I better do that before asking. >Thanks for any answers and your patience with this long mail I don't know how good these answers have been, but these are the things I wou= ld do. Take care, Tim Pintsch Projects Manager Infinite Data Source, Inc. tpintsch(a)mw.idsonline.com - 888/999-4374 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2835234947339543014==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sun Apr 18 09:30:42 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] OT:Logical parser, a pet project Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:30:42 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37191B91.EF0B0C48@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7800325318007369167==" --===============7800325318007369167== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17-Apr-99 Steven T. Hatton wrote: >=20 > I am trying to write a "logical parser" that will read in symbolic > logic statements and parse them into trees. For example it would read > A & B and create a tree with & as the root, A as the left child, and B > as the right child. After the tree is created I want to evaluate > (traverse) the tree for every possible combination of truth values.=20 > [snip] > One question I have regarding an implementation of this is whether I > should attempt to use OOP, messages and methods for the act of adding > children and redirecting the root pointer etc., or just use structures > and functions to do the job. I would love to try both approaches and > see what happens in each. Currently I don't deal with parentheses.=20 [Best viewed in fixed-width font] You're undoubtedlyly right that anything approaching depth on this topic is out of place on this list, but it's probably relevant to your question and the list to suggest looking at flex and yacc, which are designed precisely for assisting with coding this kind of parsing exercise. These will enable you also to deal with precedence and parentheses. For your examples, one intermediate target might be to construct a "reverse Polish" stack which you then implement from left to right. E.g. (using "|" for "or") (A&B)|(C&D) -> A B & C D & | which you can implement successively as | & & & & & & & A -> A B -> A B -> A B C -> A B C D -> A B C D -> A B C D I think you will also have to decide what you want to achieve with an expression like (A&B)|(A&C). Are you content to simply let the second "A" be what it is because that is what the parser encounters at that point, or do you want the parser to copy the values of duplicate symbols up the stack (so that you "only need to input their values once")? In the second case you will end up with trees cross-linked to trees, so that the resulting graph is no longer a tree. It's hard to find anything like a good introduction to flex (lex) and yacc: the O'Reilly book "Lex and Yacc" is sound but not easy. One of the best introductions is in the chapter "Program Development" in Kernighan and Pike's "The UNIX Programming Environment", but even that can leave you wondering what to do next. Good luck, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 18-Apr-99 Time: 10:30:42 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7800325318007369167==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Apr 18 10:08:37 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Sound and KDE 1.1 Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:08:37 +0200 Message-ID: <3719AF25.4882046E@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2162021172824497113==" --===============2162021172824497113== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I=C5=BDve upgraded to KDE 1.1 with an beta SuSE 6.1 from a magazine. Now, my sound is gone. ;-( I can play sounds with rplay, but KDE won=C5=BDt. I suppose I=C5=BDve missed some librarys, since some sound controls (probably old or changes files) still ask for libanything.so.1 and all libs are libanything.so.2.0.0 by now. All suggestions welcome! ;-)) Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2162021172824497113==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Apr 18 10:14:54 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Masquerading, which Kernel options? Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:14:54 +0200 Message-ID: <3719B09E.E8AC54F@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5711608933657624281==" --===============5711608933657624281== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And yet another one..., with my update to SuSE beta 6.1, I get a message that Masquerading is not supported by my kernel. I am "pretty sure" I included it, but whilst checking I did not find a config option that confirms this. I didn=C5=BDt realy check masquerading since moving to 2.2.x so I do not know wether it worked before my update. (I just think the "masquerade" script has inproved) Any hints for the nessesary kernel options welcome. Sadly the section has been removed from the manual and I gave away my old SuSE books and disks. The section is somewhere on the CD, but I couldn=C5=BDt find it yet. Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5711608933657624281==-- From ll@codeblue.co.za Sun Apr 18 10:15:12 1999 From: ll@codeblue.co.za To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Compiling Squid 2.1 Patch 2 Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:15:12 +0200 Message-ID: <3719B0B0.72357394@codeblue.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6810348536149419761==" --===============6810348536149419761== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am getting lots of "connection reset by peer" errors and someone suggested getting this newer squid. Can anyone give me some tips on compiling Squid 2.1 Patch 2 for SuSe 5.3? I am reffering in particular in getting it to work with the same directories as SuSE curently uses... -- Tjaart Silvis Tel: (011) 888 6146 Fax: (011) 888 4423 Cell: 083 227 2170 http://www.codeblue.co.za> e-mail:tjaart(a)codeblue.co.za -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6810348536149419761==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Apr 18 10:19:09 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] KDE 1.1: double click does not work as expected Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:19:09 +0200 Message-ID: <3719B19D.8A69E3EF@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7729160221013603591==" --===============7729160221013603591== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, It=C5=BDs the small things that doesn=C5=BDt work after upgrading. ;-)) I was used to close an application by double clicking the control field in the upper left hand corner. double clicking now puts it inward and that=C5=BDs it. the next click (right or left) will close the application. I=C5=BDd like to return to the old and conventional way.... Any hints??? Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7729160221013603591==-- From mailer@caen.it Sun Apr 18 10:57:33 1999 From: mailer@caen.it To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:57:33 +0200 Message-ID: <02e801be898a$634f8300$ea67dfc3@ct001181> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3651606485218988097==" --===============3651606485218988097== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Folks :)
i hope u can give me some help.
I have a trouble i try to connect to my I= SP by=20 kppp but it does not work
i have set off the lock variable in=20 /etc/ppp/options as said in kppp FAQs
doing it kppp connects to my ISP in the log windows i see= =20 startinf the pppd and then the senteces DONE
modem exchanges some data and i think the connection is=20 establisshe
after some other times kppp says PPPD died=20 unexpectly
and it stops.
What could it be??
What Should i do??
Thank You for your interest and=20 help
Gian Fabio
--===============3651606485218988097==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Apr 18 11:59:21 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: patching.... Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:59:21 +0200 Message-ID: <19990418135920.B833@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5489915863206233842==" --===============5489915863206233842== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 00:08 -0400, dizzy73 wrote: > Im having a hell of a time applying a color patch for pine. > Ive managed to ./build lnx a fresh version of pine4.02 so I could have the > source to apply against. I was able to apply the suse .dif patch but the > color dosnt to want to take [...] > I take it I should apply the color patch *before* ./building lnx ? Usually one would apply patches before building. But in this case you should build pine once, then apply the patch and build again (this is btw. described on website you mentioned). Otherwise patch will complain about missing files. > the patch I have came from
http://www.softwolve= s.pp.se/pine.shtml> > and there is a little how to apply the patch at the bottom of the page > any Ideas..? Ive tried to apply the patch in just about every conceivable > format. Im really appoaching insanity (err ummm high FUN status with this > one) Have a look at the patch file. The first two lines look like --- mailcmd.c.orig Thu Jul 9 15:54:17 1998 +++ mailcmd.c Thu Jul 9 15:59:23 1998 This means the file mailcmd.c will be copied to mailcmd.c.orig and then be patched. Because there is no path given (nothing like pine/mailcmd.c), mailcmd.c is searched for in the current directory. So all you have to do is find the dir with that file (should be pine4.xx/pine), cd to it and start patch like this: patch -p0 <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5489915863206233842==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Apr 18 12:01:05 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Xwrapper problem Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:01:05 +0200 Message-ID: <3719C981.23E5A709@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <371981BA.67C814BF@home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3932330440872261495==" --===============3932330440872261495== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark Wagnon wrote: >=20 > Hi all: >=20 > I just installed SuSE 6 and I am having problems getting X to run. I > couldn't run SaX or XF86Setup at all, so I used XF86Config. I went > through the whole process without a hitch, but when I tried to start X > via startx I got: >=20 > /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper: error in loading shared libraries > libgz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory >=20 > Shouldn't everthing I needed to get X running have been installed during > the initial installation? If not, where might I find out how to fix it? >=20 odd. libgz* sounds like some library needed for zipping / unzipping packed archives (I might be wrong though). In my system it resides in /usr/lib. It is a link to libz.so.1, same directory. Maybe your link is broken? Did you check the dependencies upon installing?? Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3932330440872261495==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sun Apr 18 12:06:33 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] OT:Logical parser, a pet project Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:06:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3719CAC8.A92E46E1@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7323072212779475038==" --===============7323072212779475038== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted, > You're undoubtedlyly right that anything approaching depth on this topic > is out of place on this list, but it's probably relevant to your question > and the list to suggest looking at flex and yacc, which are designed > precisely for assisting with coding this kind of parsing exercise. If I understand correctly flex and yacc will produce a compiler (in some sense) from a grammar. In other words I would need to formulate the problem in terms of BNF. I've thought about this. If that "making a living" thing didn't matter to me so much I might try it. I may seek a math related NG to take this thread so as not to clutter up the suse linux ML. > These will enable you also to deal with precedence and parentheses. Part of the reason I want to undertake this exercise is to solve these problems from scratch. That doesn't mean I will not look at how yacc and flex do it. My algorithm should handle precedence, and could be modified to handle parentheses without too much problem. > For your examples, one intermediate target might be to construct a > "reverse Polish" stack which you then implement from left to right. Actually I did that in one of my programming classes. I believe I can find an algorithm for it in McCracken. The Jon Lukasiewicz (JL, AKA 'Polish'), calculator is normally done using stacks. This may produce an algorithmically more efficient way of approaching the problem, but for me it is less intuitive. I believe the coding of the algorithm I presented is straight forward, and it will allow for an infix notation. My big question is, how would one approach this using using OOP as opposed to a procedural programming? Which is best? > E.g. (using "|" for "or") > > (A&B)|(C&D) -> A B & C D & | > > which you can implement successively as > > | > & & & & & & & > A -> A B -> A B -> A B C -> A B C D -> A B C D -> A B C D > > I think you will also have to decide what you want to achieve with an > expression like (A&B)|(A&C). Are you content to simply let the second > "A" be what it is because that is what the parser encounters at that > point, or do you want the parser to copy the values of duplicate symbols > up the stack (so that you "only need to input their values once")? > In the second case you will end up with trees cross-linked to trees, > so that the resulting graph is no longer a tree. You raise a good point by asking how to handle things like A & B | A. There is a distinction between what I am trying to do and what a typical JL calculator will do. I am attempting to evaluate the input expression for all possible combinations of variable values. If I were just interested in evaluating a given expression for predetermined variable values, I would use T & T | F. Of course I could use a stack based JL calculator and reset the stack pointers for each different evaluation of the variable set. I.e., fill the stack with variables and run through once with A=3DT, B=3DT, C=3DT. Rese= t the pointers and run through with A=3DF, B=3DT, C=3DT, etc. Handling parentheses could also be done using a stack. Parentheses seems to fall out naturally when using the recursive data type tree structure. What ever is in the () just becomes a subtree linked to the left or right child of the appropriate node in the overall tree. > It's hard to find anything like a good introduction to flex (lex) > and yacc: the O'Reilly book "Lex and Yacc" is sound but not easy. > One of the best introductions is in the chapter "Program Development" > in Kernighan and Pike's "The UNIX Programming Environment", but even that > can leave you wondering what to do next. Hmmm, I have K & P, and I guess there are man pages and source code for yacc and flex. Don't know if I will have time to do that research or not. Thanks for taking the time to respond. I guess to summarize my response I could say: 1) I want to do this with a tree structure even if it is not the most efficient approach. Other approaches are worth considering as learning exercises. 2) I am interested in suggestions on how to use OOP to accomplish this task. 3) I would like to generate a BNF for this problem. I am very rusty on how to do this, and was never as good at it as I should have been. Steve -- http:/= /www.winehq.com> | I think. http://www= .suse.com> | I think I am. http://www.k= de.org> | Therefore I am. ht= tp://samba.anu.edu.au> | I think? - Moody Blues -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7323072212779475038==-- From markgray@iago.nac.net Sun Apr 18 12:08:39 1999 From: markgray@iago.nac.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LaTex Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:08:39 -0400 Message-ID: <6z7lrannaw.fsf@iago.nac.net> In-Reply-To: <083001be897f$43111f00$310b883e@q3c5t6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4553718199360424620==" --===============4553718199360424620== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Geoff Newson" writes: >=20 > My problem is that I cannot generate the format files for latex. > I have tried=20 > texconfig init > but that only wrote output to logfiles. > Help please. > Geoff Newson What are you trying to get it to do? Are you building your own version of LaTeX, are you adding packages or new hyphenation, or did you simply want to configure teTeX for your own installation? Assuming the permissions are set correctly you need to be root to get texconfig to change your installation of teTeX in any permanent way. (I would suspect.) What errors are shown in your logfile? Hope to be of some help ((La)TeX is loads of fun) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4553718199360424620==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sun Apr 18 12:28:09 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] KDE 1.1: double click does not work as expected Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:28:09 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3719B19D.8A69E3EF@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5289816504501875835==" --===============5289816504501875835== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18-Apr-99 Juergen Braukmann wrote: >=20 > It=C5=BDs the small things that doesn=C5=BDt work after upgrading. ;-)) > I was used to close an application by double clicking the control field > in the upper left hand corner. Related to this topic: I am looking for a way to tune the delay within which a double-click will be recognised in KDE. I don't seem to find anything relevant under KWM, for instance. Or is this done on a per-application basis (where possible)? Some applications have real difficulty recognising a double click (amaya is really really bad ... ). Any thoughts? Thanks, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 18-Apr-99 Time: 13:28:09 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5289816504501875835==-- From Gleth@tinet.ie Sun Apr 18 13:18:08 1999 From: Gleth@tinet.ie To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:18:08 +0000 Message-ID: <3719DB8F.2006F0C8@tinet.ie> In-Reply-To: <02e801be898a$634f8300$ea67dfc3@ct001181> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0569072962293435021==" --===============0569072962293435021== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Gian Fabio Palmerini wrote: >=20 > Hi Folks :) > i hope u can give me some help. > I have a trouble i try to connect to my ISP by kppp but it does not > work > i have set off the lock variable in /etc/ppp/options as said in kppp > FAQs > doing it kppp connects to my ISP in the log windows i see startinf the > pppd and then the senteces DONE > modem exchanges some data and i think the connection is establisshe > NOw i start netscape after some time he gives an error saying unable > to find out the server (ie www.suse.de) Note by suseppp and kppp i set > up the nameserver given by my ISP > after some other times kppp says PPPD died unexpectly > and it stops. > What could it be?? > What Should i do?? > Thank You for your interest and help >=20 > Gian Fabio This sounds like the problem I had at first when using kppp, I found it was the version of diald started during boot time that was the problem (not sure why) I got around it by killing diald before starting kppp (which starts it's own version of diald) Hope this helps --=20 Have Fun, G'leth=20 Jim McBoyle Gleth(a)white-star.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0569072962293435021==-- From nhasan@usa.net Sun Apr 18 15:08:56 1999 From: nhasan@usa.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:08:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3719F587.CA0C57B2@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <3719DB8F.2006F0C8@tinet.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6611478848992394750==" --===============6611478848992394750== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable pppd does not require or start diald in order to work. I think you don't have defaultroute in your /etc/ppp/options G'leth wrote: > > Gian Fabio Palmerini wrote: > > > > Hi Folks :) > > i hope u can give me some help. > > I have a trouble i try to connect to my ISP by kppp but it does not > > work > > i have set off the lock variable in /etc/ppp/options as said in kppp > > FAQs > > doing it kppp connects to my ISP in the log windows i see startinf the > > pppd and then the senteces DONE > > modem exchanges some data and i think the connection is establisshe > > NOw i start netscape after some time he gives an error saying unable > > to find out the server (ie www.suse.de) Note by suseppp and kppp i set > > up the nameserver given by my ISP > > after some other times kppp says PPPD died unexpectly > > and it stops. > > What could it be?? > > What Should i do?? > > Thank You for your interest and help > > > > Gian Fabio > > This sounds like the problem I had at first when using kppp, I found it > was the version of diald started during boot time that was the problem > (not sure why) I got around it by killing diald before starting kppp > (which starts it's own version of diald) > > Hope this helps > -- > Have Fun, > G'leth > Jim McBoyle > Gleth(a)white-star.com > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6611478848992394750==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 18 15:22:32 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound and KDE 1.1 Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:22:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3719F8B8.8751A4A0@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3719AF25.4882046E@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2992262436519660472==" --===============2992262436519660472== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Juergen Braukmann wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I=C5=BDve upgraded to KDE 1.1 with an beta SuSE 6.1 from a magazine. Now, my > sound is gone. ;-( I can play sounds with rplay, but KDE won=C5=BDt. > I suppose I=C5=BDve missed some librarys, since some sound controls (probab= ly > old or changes files) still ask for libanything.so.1 and all libs are > libanything.so.2.0.0 by now. >=20 > All suggestions welcome! ;-)) >=20 > Juergen > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> In ../kde/bin/startkde uncomment the two lines that will start the audio. Read the warning assoicated with doing this. I've found that when I run KDE as root it can occasionally hang when logging out, but not always. As a user KDE never gives me any hanging problems when I close it. --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2992262436519660472==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Sun Apr 18 16:01:49 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: patching.... Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:01:49 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990418135920.B833@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1683057055375334420==" --===============1683057055375334420== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Stefan Troeger wrote: Hello Stefan, and thanks for your input ->> I take it I should apply the color patch *before* ./building lnx ? -> ->Usually one would apply patches before building. But in this ->case you should build pine once, then apply the patch and build ->again (this is btw. described on website you mentioned). ->Otherwise patch will complain about missing files. ok heres what i did got the tar file from suse cd- untarred it applied the suse.diff patch- with no errors ran ./build lnx - no errors - it creates all the binarys in /bin followed what you said and cd to /3/pine4.02/pine applied patch as follows patch -p0 < /3/pine4-colour.patch it seems to fail in all areas here is the output of find *.rej ./pine4.02/pine/mailcmd.c.rej ./pine4.02/pine/newmail.c.rej ./pine4.02/pine/os.c.rej ./pine4.02/pine/screen.c.rej ./pine4.02/pine/status.c.rej -> -> ->Have a look at the patch file. The first two lines look like -> ->--- mailcmd.c.orig Thu Jul 9 15:54:17 1998 ->+++ mailcmd.c Thu Jul 9 15:59:23 1998 -> yes , I noticed that and -did- try to run it from the /pine4.02/pine dir basiccally from what I could see all hunks failed hence my persistiant problem If Im overlooking something or being particullary stupid please correct me. Im determined to get color in pine and Id appreciate any suggestions. LIke I said Im at my witts end and..... thanks rob Linux Homepage http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM= .htm> S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1683057055375334420==-- From mezger@surfree.com Sun Apr 18 16:56:25 1999 From: mezger@surfree.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.x and Kernel 2.2.x Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:56:25 -0400 Message-ID: <99041813421800.00210@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6729550280865449684==" --===============6729550280865449684== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello everyone ;-) Well this is a multiple question post. It's a YaPP (Yet antother printer problem:) It seems that quite a few people are having problems with their printers and SUSE when using Kernel 2.2.x. I'm one of those people. I've been scouring the mailing lists trying to find the answer but with no success.=20 I was wondering about the following post. Checking my conf.modules I find that I do have the entries that he speaks of. Am I to chage it?=20 >Juergen wrote: >Which kernel do you use? printing as a module? With 2.2.x there are a >few entries in conf.modules to make the damm thing work. (if modules) >Took me some time to: ># post-install paride insmod frpw ># pre-remove paride rmmod frpw >alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc >options parport_pc io=3D0x378 When I check the status of my printer it keeps telling me that it's idle or that it's offline? It doesn't matter if I am root or not... the results are always the same.=20 Can someone point me to some info on this? Please :-) I have no problems when using the good old K-2.0.36 (except that my sound card isn't supported in the kernel):=20 Another question.... I was having problems with rc.d when I first upgraded to 6.0. I kept getting a screenful of errorson boot up about modprobe not being able to find certain modules... kinda like this: modprobe: can't locate module blah blah blah modprobe: can't locate module blah blah blah modprobe: can't locate module blah blah blah I have since fixed this using a hack from C Johnson (the serial hack). I want to know if this has been (or will be) fixed in 6.1? I also would like to know if I buy 6.1 will SuSE actually give me support this time? The last version I bought was 5.2 and I never received any help from Su= SE at all. I never even recieved a confirmation that they got my registration (I ev= en registered it twice after receiving no confirmation the first time). Luckily I never had any major problems. Check your mail logs SuSE! Oh yeah.. one last question. Does anyone know what it means when I keep getti= ng DMA messages in /var /log/messages like this: Apr 18 13:21:01 rimez kernel: es1371: dma timed out?? Apr 18 13:25:33 rimez kernel: es1371: dma timed out?? I don't understand... everyting seems to be working OK. TIA, rimez Here's a rundown of my hardware for those interested: Pentium II 400mhz 64mb System RAM STB velocity 4400 AGP (Riva/TNT) w/ 16mb RAM Sound Blaster PCI 64D (ensoniq 1371) WD HDD 5.1 GB WD HDD 3.1 GB 34X CD-ROM Deskjet 400 Printer Kernel 2.2.5 <--- I guess that's not HW ;-) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6729550280865449684==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sun Apr 18 17:20:43 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] OT:Logical parser, a pet project Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:20:43 -0400 Message-ID: <371A146B.6047B769@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] OT:Logical parser, a pet project> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9192056475183858951==" --===============9192056475183858951== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lunaslide wrote: > > http://www.geocities.com:80/Heartland/Estates/2913/calc/treea_= 38.htm> > Did you look at this? > It looks like what you're trying to do can be accomplished with a binary > operator tree. For example: > > 4 * 5 + 3 > > can be expressed as such > > + > / \ > 3 * > / \ > 4 5 Yes, but remember I am doing algebra not arithmetic. That is, I am constructing | /\ A & /\ B C Where A, B, and C evaluate to T or F. > I will pull down my Data Structures textbook from comp sci and code > this, because now you have me curious :-) Do you understand C++? This > would be best implemented as a class. Yes, I agree, that sounds attractive. After I gave it a bit of consideration, I realized it wasn't quite as obvious as it first seemed. I have taken a course in C++ but haven't really used it since. If you haven't stepped through algorithm I presented you may wish to. I believe it will construct the tree. Perhaps I will attempt this in C and we can compare notes. I'm supposed to be working on an MCSE right now instead of learning to program. Yuck! > I'll try it in perl too, which I > am presently learning, just to see if I can. Yea I've been playing with perl. It really is fun. I'm not sure what data structures perl will offer for such a problem. You may be able to code this whole thing in one line of perl which no one in the world will understand ;-) Steve -- http:/= /www.winehq.com> | I think. http://www= .suse.com> | I think I am. http://www.k= de.org> | Therefore I am. ht= tp://samba.anu.edu.au> | I think? - Moody Blues -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9192056475183858951==-- From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Sun Apr 18 17:34:23 1999 From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] rexec command Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:34:23 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8565150272216431586==" --===============8565150272216431586== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, i can't seem to locate "rexec" in SuSE 6.0 does it exist? thanks, -alexm -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8565150272216431586==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Apr 18 18:16:08 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KDE 1.1: double click does not work as expected Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:16:08 +0200 Message-ID: <371A2168.36581333@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0387998715102885391==" --===============0387998715102885391== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > Related to this topic: I am looking for a way to tune the delay within > which a double-click will be recognised in KDE. I don't seem to find > anything relevant under KWM, for instance. This is arough guess: /etc/XF86config. When setting up X, you can alter these parameters. Rerun sax / XF86Setup, but save your config file before. There might be a chance in KDE as well..... Juergen >=20 > Or is this done on a per-application basis (where possible)? >=20 For my problem: > Some applications have real difficulty recognising a double click > (amaya is really really bad ... ). no. it affects all and all of a sudden after upgrading. Nothing critical, but annoying. --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0387998715102885391==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Apr 18 18:27:28 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: patching.... Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:27:28 +0200 Message-ID: <19990418202728.A9062@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7823149161426529453==" --===============7823149161426529453== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 12:01 -0400, dizzy73 wrote: > ok heres what i did > got the tar file from suse cd- untarred it > applied the suse.diff patch- with no errors > ran ./build lnx - no errors - it creates all the binarys in /bin > followed what you said and cd to /3/pine4.02/pine > applied patch as follows patch -p0 < /3/pine4-colour.patch > it seems to fail in all areas here is the output of find *.rej I tried to do the same, but after applying pine4.02.dif I received a lot of ncurses or termcap related error messages when compiling. I think with SuSE 6.0 a new ncurses version was introduced, this could explain the errors. But it worked perfectly to patch the clean sources (i. e. no suse patch applied) with the colour patch and build pine with ./build slx. No *.rej files. Ciao, Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7823149161426529453==-- From deem@wdm.com Sun Apr 18 18:47:28 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: patching.... Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:47:28 -0800 Message-ID: <199904181847.KAA01811@wdm.com> In-Reply-To: <19990418202728.A9062@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3090687283338813719==" --===============3090687283338813719== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Use=20 # ln -s /usr/share/terminfo /usr/lib/terminfo and that should help. -Dee Stefan Troeger wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 12:01 -0400, dizzy73 wrote: >=20 > > ok heres what i did > > got the tar file from suse cd- untarred it > > applied the suse.diff patch- with no errors > > ran ./build lnx - no errors - it creates all the binarys in /bin > > followed what you said and cd to /3/pine4.02/pine > > applied patch as follows patch -p0 < /3/pine4-colour.patch > > it seems to fail in all areas here is the output of find *.rej >=20 > I tried to do the same, but after applying pine4.02.dif I > received a lot of ncurses or termcap related error messages when > compiling. I think with SuSE 6.0 a new ncurses version was > introduced, this could explain the errors. >=20 > But it worked perfectly to patch the clean sources (i. e. no > suse patch applied) with the colour patch and build pine with > ./build slx. No *.rej files. >=20 > Ciao, > Stefan > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> W.D.McKinney (Dee) deem(a)wdm.com Vision & Passion are keys to success. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3090687283338813719==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Apr 18 18:55:15 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Masquerading, which Kernel options?: SOLVED!! Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:55:15 +0200 Message-ID: <371A2A93.E3850930@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <3719B09E.E8AC54F@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9102871974251390416==" --===============9102871974251390416== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Juergen Braukmann wrote: >=20 > And yet another one..., >=20 > with my update to SuSE beta 6.1, I get a message that Masquerading is > not supported by my kernel. I am "pretty sure" I included it, but whilst > checking I did not find a config option that confirms this. > I didn=C5=BDt realy check masquerading since moving to 2.2.x so I do not kn= ow > wether it worked before my update. (I just think the "masquerade" script > has inproved) >=20 I used htdig to find this info and stumbled into a SDB article, that claimed a variable needed to be set in rc.config. I did and all is fine now. Sorry for bothering the list. Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9102871974251390416==-- From bfootdav@bellsouth.net Sun Apr 18 19:00:01 1999 From: bfootdav@bellsouth.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.x and Kernel 2.2.x Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:00:01 -0400 Message-ID: <371A2BB1.F46D1D9D@bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <99041813421800.00210@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6027646320648404918==" --===============6027646320648404918== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rimez wrote: >=20 > hello everyone ;-) >=20 > Well this is a multiple question post. It's a YaPP (Yet antother printer > problem:) > It seems that quite a few people are having problems with their printers and > SUSE when using Kernel 2.2.x. I'm one of those people. > I've been scouring the mailing lists trying to find the answer but with no > success. > I was wondering about the following post. Checking my conf.modules I find t= hat > I do have the entries that he speaks of. Am I to chage it? > When I check the status of my printer it keeps telling me that it's idle or > that it's offline? It doesn't matter if I am root or not... the results are > always the same. > Can someone point me to some info on this? Please :-) > I have no problems when using the good old K-2.0.36 (except that my sound c= ard > isn't supported in the kernel): >=20 I too couldn't get my printer (Canon BJC-250) to work with the kernel 2.2.x series even after making sure I was using lp0 (instead of lp1 as in the old kernel). Someone else mentioned on this list that they uninstalled apsfilter and the ghostview stuff via YaST, re-installed these packages and then everything worked. Sure enough after I did this and re-installed my printer via YaST I now have a working printer. I don't know if this will help you, but after I had tried everything I could think of, this is what finally did the trick. Good luck, David Bellows -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6027646320648404918==-- From norrisd@gti.net Sun Apr 18 19:18:03 1999 From: norrisd@gti.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Ports available for printing Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:18:03 -0400 Message-ID: <99041815221500.00366@Egad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3906663088136352592==" --===============3906663088136352592== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Once again I come humbly in your presence to discover information I do not have about SuSE. What ports are available to lp* ? Thanks =20 Dick -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3906663088136352592==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Apr 18 19:30:23 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound and KDE 1.1 Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:30:23 +0200 Message-ID: <371A32CF.C1BE427B@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <3719F8B8.8751A4A0@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3632267491432837355==" --===============3632267491432837355== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > Juergen Braukmann wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I=C5=BDve upgraded to KDE 1.1 with an beta SuSE 6.1 from a magazine. Now,= my > > sound is gone. ;-( I can play sounds with rplay, but KDE won=C5=BDt. > > I suppose I=C5=BDve missed some librarys, since some sound controls (prob= ably > > old or changes files) still ask for libanything.so.1 and all libs are > > libanything.so.2.0.0 by now. > > > > All suggestions welcome! ;-)) > > > > Juergen >=20 > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/S= upport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 > In ../kde/bin/startkde uncomment the two lines that will start the > audio. Read the warning assoicated with doing this. I've found that > when I run KDE as root it can occasionally hang when logging out, but > not always. As a user KDE never gives me any hanging problems when I > close it. >=20 wonderful ;-)) that=C5=BDs it. Just the double click is left now... Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3632267491432837355==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Apr 18 20:10:15 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: patching.... Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:10:15 +0200 Message-ID: <19990418221015.A12409@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <199904181847.KAA01811@wdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1780025877578551238==" --===============1780025877578551238== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 10:47 -0800, W.D.McKinney wrote: > Use=20 >=20 > # ln -s /usr/share/terminfo /usr/lib/terminfo >=20 > and that should help. Hmm, /usr/lib/terminfo is already there. Linking it the other way around doesn't help either. I know why I'm using mutt :-) Ciao, Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1780025877578551238==-- From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 18 20:22:09 1999 From: richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] kernel 2.2.2 upgrade...just a few Qs Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:22:09 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01be89d9$387bd260$561d883e@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6367697467378040136==" --===============6367697467378040136== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all
I have attempted to upgrade SuSE 6 to Kernel 2.2.2 (PCPlu= s)=20 and I have hit some problems...
After compiling kernel and re-booting I got message Symbo= l=20 table has incorrect version number and Cannot find map file in boot log. I=20 fixed the Cannot find map file by using make bzlilo, but I still get Symbol=20 table has incorrect version number...any ideas? Not sure if make bzlilo=20 worked okay anyway cuz I got:
open /boot/vmlinuz.old: No such file or directory<= /DIV>
make [1]:*** [zlilo] Error 1
make [1]: Leaving directory=20 /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot
make: *** [bzlilo] Error 2
The error from bzlilo seems strange cuz vmlinuz.old DOES = NOT=20 EXIST but in /etc/lilo.conf I have setup the original kernel 2.0.36 to=20 /boot/vmlinuz.old and the new kernel 2.2.2 to /boot/vmlinuz and although=20 vmlinuz.old is not in /boot, lilo does work and boot 2.0.36=20 (/boot/vmlinuz.old)?!
Also I moved 2.0.36 sources from /usr/src/linux to=20 /linux-2.0.36 and then copied sources for 2.2.2 into /usr/src/linux. The=20 renamed 2.0.36 is displayed in white text (as it was when called /linux) and = in=20 KDE in italics is this some kind of symbolic link maybe to do with the=20 above?
Other issues:
Printer does not work, yet I have complied everything for= a=20 paralled port printer (Canon BJC-250)
Freeing unused kernel memory: 36K freed....what does the = mean,=20 why does this message show on upgrading?
On command shutdown -h now everything under 2.2.2 seems t= he=20 same as 2.0.36 but after System is Halted message, the message Master Resourc= e=20 Control: runlevel 0 has been reached...this did not appear under 2.0.36, is t= his=20 part of kernel 2.2.2 upgrade or error?
CD is x24 speed and shows in boot log as x24 yet after id= e0=20 and ide1 flash by it appears as x20?
Thats it! Appreciate any advice, thanks in=20 advance.
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--===============6367697467378040136==-- From fredfung@mondenet.com Sun Apr 18 20:58:08 1999 From: fredfung@mondenet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PnP configuation for Linux Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:58:08 -0400 Message-ID: <371A4760.1A75E1B6@mondenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6912999774569784695==" --===============6912999774569784695== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I am running SuSE 5.3, kernel 2.0.35. A few months ago I went through all the work of configuring my PnP SB16 Sound Card and my PnP internal modem to work on my Pentium 150 and P5I437/250A motherboard. The steps I took was to run pnpdump, got the configuration file, then uncommented the proper lines for IRQ, DMA etc. and then run isapnp. I even recompiled the kernal to configure the IRQ, DMS etc. for the sound card. It had been working great until recently. I just upgraded my CPU to AMD K6-2 and motherboard Asus P5A-B, and an ATI Xpert 98 AGP video card. The sound and the modem don't work anymore. The basic thing I did was=20 "cat .wav > /dev/dsp", it came back with the error message "invalid device or address". I also tried sending a modem init string to the modem but nothing happens. I re-ran pnpdump but the configuration information it gave me was identical to before, so I don't think they are valid anymore. Can anyone point me to the right direction for finding the correct IRQ etc. ? Will SuSE 6.1 and kernal 2.2.x be able to handle PnP stuff better ? Any help is much appreciated.. Fred -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6912999774569784695==-- From landie@concentric.net Sun Apr 18 22:10:03 1999 From: landie@concentric.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] xwindows Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:10:03 -0400 Message-ID: <000201be89e8$3549ce80$5d10adce@roman> In-Reply-To: <371A4760.1A75E1B6@mondenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2823535018363441353==" --===============2823535018363441353== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi all: i am on my second day on linux i configured xwindows and when i run startx i get "fatal server error no valid modes " advice is more than welcome, thanks in advance Rolando > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of Fred Fung > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 4:58 PM > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: [SuSE Linux] PnP configuation for Linux > > > > Hi all, > > I am running SuSE 5.3, kernel 2.0.35. A few months ago I went through > all the work of configuring my PnP SB16 Sound Card and my PnP internal > modem to work on my Pentium 150 and P5I437/250A motherboard. The steps > I took was to run pnpdump, got the configuration file, then uncommented > the proper lines for IRQ, DMA etc. and then run isapnp. I even > recompiled the kernal to configure the IRQ, DMS etc. for the sound card. > It had been working great until recently. > > I just upgraded my CPU to AMD K6-2 and motherboard Asus P5A-B, and an > ATI Xpert 98 AGP video card. The sound and the modem don't work anymore. > The basic thing I did was > "cat .wav > /dev/dsp", it came back with the error message > "invalid > device or address". I also tried sending a modem init string to the > modem but nothing happens. I re-ran pnpdump but the configuration > information it gave me was identical to before, so I don't think they > are valid anymore. > > Can anyone point me to the right direction for finding the correct IRQ > etc. ? Will SuSE 6.1 and kernal 2.2.x be able to handle PnP stuff better > ? > > Any help is much appreciated.. > > Fred > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2823535018363441353==-- From Drow@Blazenet.net Sun Apr 18 22:37:38 1999 From: Drow@Blazenet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.x and Kernel 2.2.x Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:37:38 -0400 Message-ID: <371A5EB1.AC3F21B1@Blazenet.net> In-Reply-To: <99041813421800.00210@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1125151651500499722==" --===============1125151651500499722== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rimez wrote: > It seems that quite a few people are having problems with their printers and > SUSE when using Kernel 2.2.x. I'm one of those people. > I do have the entries that he speaks of. Am I to chage it? Did you install 6.X fresh or upgrade ? Which printer package are you using lprold or lpd? Some folks have problems with lpd. You may have better luck with lprold. I use lpd with no problems. >=20 > >Which kernel do you use? printing as a module? With 2.2.x there are a > >few entries in conf.modules to make the damm thing work. (if modules) > >Took me some time to: >=20 > ># post-install paride insmod frpw > ># pre-remove paride rmmod frpw > >alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc > >options parport_pc io=3D0x378 >=20 > When I check the status of my printer it keeps telling me that it's idle or > that it's offline? It doesn't matter if I am root or not... the results are > always the same. lpc up will bring it online for you. Something I did was change my printer from polling to interrupt driven by adding an irq=3D7 parameter in /etc/conf.modules to my parport_pc options line, and adding this to my /etc/rc.d/boot.local file: /usr/bin/tunelp /dev/lp0 -i 7. I have the same printer as you so this should work for you. > Another question.... I was having problems with rc.d when I first upgraded = to > 6.0. I kept getting a screenful of errorson boot up about modprobe not being > able to find certain modules... kinda like this: > modprobe: can't locate module blah blah blah > modprobe: can't locate module blah blah blah > modprobe: can't locate module blah blah blah > I have since fixed this using a hack from C Johnson (the serial hack). > I want to know if this has been (or will be) fixed in 6.1? Sounds like you conf.modules doesn't have the correct aliases more than anything else, besides ppp compression, I haven't really had modprobe errors out of SuSE 6.0. Well I lie there is one other one: block-major-8 (sd_mod). Clues anyone? I have been to lazy to search the source for it! > Oh yeah.. one last question. Does anyone know what it means when I keep get= ting > DMA messages in /var /log/messages like this: > Apr 18 13:21:01 rimez kernel: es1371: dma timed out?? > Apr 18 13:25:33 rimez kernel: es1371: dma timed out?? > I don't understand... everyting seems to be working OK. > TIA, > rimez ounds like you don't have the card setup right with isapnp or conf.modules . That usually happens when you aren't using the same dma with isapnp and the module, or the dma is conflicting with another device trying to use it so the es1371 module can't initialize it. Hope I have been helpful. --=20 Aduanne Carter Drow(a)Blazenet.net / TrueDrow(a)Netscape.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1125151651500499722==-- From Drow@Blazenet.net Sun Apr 18 22:42:08 1999 From: Drow@Blazenet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Xwrapper problem Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:42:08 -0400 Message-ID: <371A5FC0.60F8BB7@Blazenet.net> In-Reply-To: <3719C981.23E5A709@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8585984097498271930==" --===============8585984097498271930== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I just installed SuSE 6 and I am having problems getting X to run. I > > couldn't run SaX or XF86Setup at all, so I used XF86Config. I went > > through the whole process without a hitch, but when I tried to start X > > via startx I got: > > > > /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper: error in loading shared libraries > > libgz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory > > > > Shouldn't everthing I needed to get X running have been installed during > > the initial installation? If not, where might I find out how to fix it? > > >=20 > odd. libgz* sounds like some library needed for zipping / unzipping > packed archives (I might be wrong though). In my system it resides in > /usr/lib. It is a link to libz.so.1, same directory. Maybe your link is > broken? >=20 > Did you check the dependencies upon installing?? >=20 > Juergen >=20 I think your right about being a compression library. I think it needs it for decompressing fonts. --=20 Aduanne Carter Drow(a)Blazenet.net / TrueDrow(a)Netscape.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8585984097498271930==-- From geoff@gnewson.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 18 23:24:03 1999 From: geoff@gnewson.freeserve.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LaTex Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:24:03 +0100 Message-ID: <000901be89f2$b2c68c40$050b883e@q3c5t6> In-Reply-To: <6z7lrannaw.fsf@iago.nac.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2313868095357140001==" --===============2313868095357140001== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Gray To: Geoff Newson Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LaTex > > "Geoff Newson" writes: > > > > My problem is that I cannot generate the format files for latex. > > I have tried > > texconfig init > > but that only wrote output to logfiles. > > Help please. > > Geoff Newson > > What are you trying to get it to do? Are you building your own > version of LaTeX, are you adding packages or new hyphenation, or did > you simply want to configure teTeX for your own installation? > Assuming the permissions are set correctly you need to be root to get > texconfig to change your installation of teTeX in any permanent way. > (I would suspect.) What errors are shown in your logfile? > > Hope to be of some help ((La)TeX is loads of fun) When I type the command: latex mydoc.tex I get the error message: I can't find default format file! I remebered seeing some FAQ or something that said the answer to this was to run texconfig init and this would generate the missing format files. It didn't. If you can help I would appreciate it. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2313868095357140001==-- From dno@blueskyweb.com Mon Apr 19 01:36:03 1999 From: dno@blueskyweb.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:36:03 -0400 Message-ID: <010a01be8a04$fd8051a0$5c82a6d1@dnohomepc> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3139953999674393192==" --===============3139953999674393192== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
When I was trying to set up ppp to my isp, when I tried t= o=20 browse on the web it kept telling me that the site was not found, i.e. www.suse.de. What it turned out to be in my = case is the naming server that my isp uses does not seem to work with=20 Linux. Since the company I work for had a different providor, which is=20 much larger than the one I use, I tried their naming server. I=20 haven't had a naming problem since. Seems like my providor only=20 understands MS clients.
Dan.
-----Original Message-----
= From:=20 Gian Fabio Palmerini <mailer(a)caen.it>
To: SUSE= =20 Mailing List <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com>
<= B>Date:=20 Sunday, April 18, 1999 7:18 AM
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kppp=20 connection to the Internet

Hi Folks :)
i hope u can give me some help.
I have a trouble i try to connect to = my ISP=20 by kppp but it does not work
i have set off the lock variable in=20 /etc/ppp/options as said in kppp FAQs
doing it kppp connects to my ISP in the log windows i= see=20 startinf the pppd and then the senteces DONE
modem exchanges some data and i think the connection = is=20 establisshe
NOw i start netscape after some time he gives an erro= r=20 saying unable to find out the server (ie www.suse.de) Note by suseppp and kppp i s= et up=20 the nameserver given by my ISP
after some other times kppp says PPPD died=20 unexpectly
and it stops.
What could it be??
What Should i do??
Thank You for your interest=20 and help
Gian Fabio
--===============3139953999674393192==-- From dno@blueskyweb.com Mon Apr 19 01:38:18 1999 From: dno@blueskyweb.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:38:18 -0400 Message-ID: <011901be8a05$5405fa20$5c82a6d1@dnohomepc> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4656669198403769769==" --===============4656669198403769769== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Another thing I forgot to mention is when= I=20 tried using netstat -r to look at my routing, it took an extremely long time = to=20 come back with my routing tables. It turned out for every route, it was=20 trying to look up the name and had to timeout before it looked at the next=20 route. traceroute acted the same way until I got a naming server that=20 worked.
Dan.
-----Original Message-----
= From:=20 Dan Olszewski <dno(a)blueskyweb.com>
To: = SUSE Mailing List <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com>
<= B>Date:=20 Sunday, April 18, 1999 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kp= pp=20 connection to the Internet

Hi,
When I was trying to set up ppp to my isp, when I tri= ed to=20 browse on the web it kept telling me that the site was not found, i.e. www.suse.de. What it turned out to be in= =20 my case is the naming server that my isp uses does not seem to work with = Linux. Since the company I work for had a different providor, which is=20 much larger than the one I use, I tried their naming server. I=20 haven't had a naming problem since. Seems like my providor only=20 understands MS clients.
Dan.
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Gian Fabio Palmerini <mailer(a)caen.it>
To: = SUSE=20 Mailing List <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com><= BR>Date:=20 Sunday, April 18, 1999 7:18 AM
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kp= pp=20 connection to the Internet

Hi Folks :)
i hope u can give me some=20 help.
I have a trouble i try to connect= to my=20 ISP by kppp but it does not work
i have set off the lock variable = in=20 /etc/ppp/options as said in kppp FAQs
doing it kppp connects to my ISP in the log windo= ws i=20 see startinf the pppd and then the senteces DONE
modem exchanges some data and i think the connect= ion=20 is establisshe
NOw i start netscape after some time he gives an = error=20 saying unable to find out the server (ie www.suse.de) Note by suseppp and kppp= i=20 set up the nameserver given by my ISP
after some other times kppp says PPPD died=20 unexpectly
and it stops.
What could it be??
What Should i do??
Thank You for your=20 interest and help
Gian=20 Fabio
--===============4656669198403769769==-- From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Mon Apr 19 01:48:48 1999 From: k01164@ko.sdu.dk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux server in a small business env. Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 03:48:48 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000001be8961$d4656380$0b00a8c0@pc001.baypc.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4051009585186097947==" --===============4051009585186097947== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Michael Doerner wrote: [...snipped a lot I don't know much about...] > - Email server: >=20 > As far as I understand, Sendmail is the typical MTA in the UNIX/Linux world > for this (and there also seem to be other products available as I have read > here). > Would Sendmail as an MTA be able to give all LAN clients (Outlook, Netscape, > etc.) email access for internal & external emailing - still over the above > mentioned dialup connection? Sendmail is able to do this, but remember that you also need a POP or IMAP daemon on the server, so the users can collect their mail. Sendmail only delivers the mail to the account for them. > If yes, will we have to do this by starting with our own domain name or > could we start by collecting the mails from various POP3 accounts and > distributing these mails to the internal LAN clients? Of course an own > domain would be preferred and wants to be used in the longer view. You can use either method. Use fetchmail to collect mail from POP3 accounts wherever they are... I do this...=20 My brother has 2 different POP3 accounts with different providers. I use fetchmail here to collect from both accounts, and while he was abroad the last few weeks, he simply used POP3 to collect his mail from my Linux-box. Worked just fine. If you get your own domain, you will need to set up the server as the mail transfer server for your domain. Then Sendmail will receive all mail and the users can collect it with POP or IMAP. As long as the mail server remains the same, the client machines do not need to be changed, except for the e-mail address itself, the server name and account information on the client machines can be left unchanged. Hope you could use this information... Regards Ole -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4051009585186097947==-- From landie@concentric.net Mon Apr 19 02:18:06 1999 From: landie@concentric.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: No Subject Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:18:06 -0400 Message-ID: <000001be8a0a$dcabb860$c011adce@roman> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6199013769938615500==" --===============6199013769938615500== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable my filesystem is read only, any help??? RR -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6199013769938615500==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 19 02:28:57 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: filesystem is readonly Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 04:28:57 +0200 Message-ID: <371A94E9.898A38D8@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <000001be8a0a$dcabb860$c011adce@roman> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0457075580650092217==" --===============0457075580650092217== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable landie wrote: >=20 > my filesystem is read only, any help??? mount -o remount,rw / Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0457075580650092217==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Mon Apr 19 02:39:14 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:39:14 -0500 Message-ID: <371A9752.8E90C025@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <010a01be8a04$fd8051a0$5c82a6d1@dnohomepc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1341402155585364121==" --===============1341402155585364121== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I was wanting an option from others on this list. Is anyone else annoyed with people using Outlook Express to post to this list? I produces this annoying white border around the message and sometimes duel posts to the list. I was just wondering if this annoys anyone else but me..and also it makes the test extremely smaller then most other mailers..*shrug* just wondering. laters, --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1341402155585364121==-- From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Mon Apr 19 02:51:45 1999 From: k01164@ko.sdu.dk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 6.0 to 6.1 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 04:51:45 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904190324.UAA03706@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5161935642846880650==" --===============5161935642846880650== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, tf wrote: >=20 > hey all >=20 > sorry, I looked, but, in order for me to upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1, will I ha= ve to just order the new set? >=20 > -t Either that, or download the 6.1 stuff.=20 Regards Ole -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5161935642846880650==-- From dlaude@execpc.com Mon Apr 19 03:21:39 1999 From: dlaude@execpc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:21:39 -0500 Message-ID: <199904190321.WAA22405@mailgw02.execpc.com> In-Reply-To: <371A9752.8E90C025@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5848767580373699594==" --===============5848767580373699594== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---Reply to mail from Ben Rosenberg > I was wanting an option from others on this list. Is anyone else > annoyed with people using Outlook Express to post to this list? I > produces this annoying white border around the message and sometimes > duel posts to the list. I was just wondering if this annoys anyone else > but me..and also it makes the test extremely smaller then most other > mailers..*shrug* just wondering. Personally, this bugs me also. HTML mail, folks..., turn the option off and specify txt for the default. (and YES, there are options under NetScape, OutLook and I.E. to send .txt vs HTML.) Dana -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5848767580373699594==-- From nee@telekurs.com Mon Apr 19 03:56:20 1999 From: nee@telekurs.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:56:20 +0800 Message-ID: <371AA964.6B984F6A@telekurs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3978491922842874340==" --===============3978491922842874340== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can someone tell me how to upgrade the kernel from 2.0.36 to 2.2.5 . I would appreciate a step by step approach. Thanks Regards -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3978491922842874340==-- From hmf@softhome.net Mon Apr 19 04:16:52 1999 From: hmf@softhome.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] 6.0 to 6.1 Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:16:52 -0500 Message-ID: <199904190324.UAA03706@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7310452974632952210==" --===============7310452974632952210== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey all orry, I looked, but, in order for me to upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1, will I have = to just order the new set? -t -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7310452974632952210==-- From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr 19 04:26:59 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:26:59 -0700 Message-ID: <19990418212659.A2687@basin.com> In-Reply-To: <199904190321.WAA22405@mailgw02.execpc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5531467469026708256==" --===============5531467469026708256== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Dana J. Laude on Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 10:21:39PM -0500 >=20 > ---Reply to mail from Ben Rosenberg >=20 > > I was wanting an option from others on this list. Is anyone else > > annoyed with people using Outlook Express to post to this list? I > > produces this annoying white border around the message and sometimes > > duel posts to the list. I was just wondering if this annoys anyone else > > but me..and also it makes the test extremely smaller then most other > > mailers..*shrug* just wondering. >=20 > Personally, this bugs me also. HTML mail, folks..., turn the > option off and specify txt for the default. (and YES, there are > options under NetScape, OutLook and I.E. to send .txt vs HTML.) >=20 > Dana >=20 >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Me too. I dont particularly care for html even if I use lookout express. I just turn it off because it bugs me. I would like to see clear text posts to the list personally; but I know people use lookout 98 or lookout express. = Been several posts and some fixes to this. I just think that clear text is easier to read, does not require fixes, and provides good enough formatting for the medium we are engaged in. Sure I could edit some file and put a minimal script or lingo in to make html mail easier to read. I would like to see plain text posts though. =20 Just my personal preference. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5531467469026708256==-- From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr 19 04:28:33 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.5 Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:28:33 -0700 Message-ID: <19990418212833.B2687@basin.com> In-Reply-To: <371AA964.6B984F6A@telekurs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4110110945735873445==" --===============4110110945735873445== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Emmanuel on Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 11:56:20AM +0800 >=20 > Can someone tell me how to upgrade the kernel from 2.0.36 to 2.2.5 . I > would appreciate a step by step approach. Thanks >=20 > Regards >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Check out the kernel howto in /usr/doc/howto/en. Pretty step-by-step and easy to follow. Written quite well IMO. I used the kernel approach this last time and am quite satisfied with its level of detail and explanation. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4110110945735873445==-- From paspartu@uni.net Mon Apr 19 06:56:04 1999 From: paspartu@uni.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.x and Kernel 2.2.x Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:56:04 +0200 Message-ID: <99041909115500.00279@kamikazen> In-Reply-To: <99041813421800.00210@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4218319087744470806==" --===============4218319087744470806== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On dom, 18 apr 1999, rimez wrote: > >few entries in conf.modules to make the damm thing work. (if modules) > >Took me some time to: >=20 > ># post-install paride insmod frpw > ># pre-remove paride rmmod frpw > >alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc > >options parport_pc io=3D0x378 >=20 > When I check the status of my printer it keeps telling me that it's idle or > that it's offline? It doesn't matter if I am root or not... the results are > always the same.=20 > Can someone point me to some info on this? Please :-) Starting from kernel 2.2.x printer devices are numbered differently and I thi= nk that everyone on this list is aware of it. On DOS you have LPT1, LPT2 and LPT3 and they can assume i/o addresses among 0x3bc, 0x378 and 0x278. On my system I have: LPT1 -> io=3D0x378 (and IRQ=3D7) LPT2 -> io=3D0x278 Now, on kernels 2.0.x you have: lp1 -> LPT1 with kernels 2.2.x you have: lp0 -> LPT1 I did this: In /etc/conf.modules: alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc # MF 19990415 Next line changed to get printer working for # kernel 2.2.x #options parport_pc io=3D0x378 irq=3Dnone,none options parport_pc io=3D0x378 irq=3D7 # MF End of changes You may want to use something different for you setup, depending on the io and IRQ of your printer. Then with YaST I create a new /etc/printcap file and I chose lp0 instead of lp1. The result is that I can print with K 2.2.5. =20 > Another question.... I was having problems with rc.d when I first upgraded = to > 6.0. I kept getting a screenful of errorson boot up about modprobe not being > able to find certain modules... kinda like this: > modprobe: can't locate module blah blah blah > modprobe: can't locate module blah blah blah > modprobe: can't locate module blah blah blah > I have since fixed this using a hack from C Johnson (the serial hack). > I want to know if this has been (or will be) fixed in 6.1? >=20 As long as you don't compile such devices as modules or you don't set their values to off (I did, for instance: alias block-major-4 off) in /etc/conf.modules, then you will have that kind of messages on the screen Hope this helps, Ciao, Maurizio -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4218319087744470806==-- From TXDELBAE@ctrl.co.uk Mon Apr 19 07:42:52 1999 From: TXDELBAE@ctrl.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Printing Problems Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:42:52 +0100 Message-ID: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B9ACD@ctrl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Printing Problems> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0153350358783503244==" --===============0153350358783503244== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Just to let keep you all informed. I ca now run lpq, and it shows me the files that are ready to print, but the queue has No Spooling, No Printing, and a msg. saying that printing has been disabled on (Whatever date it was). How did I do that, and how do I get it working again. Thanks for your time. Tim Delbaere -----Original Message----- From: Delbaere, Tim=20 Sent: 15 April 1999 10:09 To: Linux List (E-mail) Subject: [SuSE Linux] Printing Problems Hi, I am running SuSE 6.0, 2.0.34, kernel, and have set up my printer under YAST (Epson Stylus 640) to use the stylus colour settings. Nothing will print at all. But I can cat test.txt > /dev/lp1, and the text file is printed. Got any ideas, as I getting a bit fed up now. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0153350358783503244==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Apr 19 09:01:55 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] Getting there...now for KDE Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:01:55 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8991164774456729135==" --===============8991164774456729135== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Ian M. Moore wrote: > What about upgrading kde 1.0 to 1.1 via YaST do you recommend > uninstalling 1.0 and then starting fresh with all the new packages or > does it matter. Ian Both ways should work. But I personally recommend deinstalling the old packages first... :) Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8991164774456729135==-- From Paul.Abraham@infinit.co.uk Mon Apr 19 09:28:51 1999 From: Paul.Abraham@infinit.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] /dev/sequencer woes Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:28:51 +0100 Message-ID: <51514A89C9A6D111B5A808002BF1930704AEE6@trafalgar> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0813941061235428793==" --===============0813941061235428793== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having a woeful time getting /dev/sequencer to work. Perhaps I should rephrase that and say that I can use an application like rosegarden to get /dev/sequencer to produce sounds, which it does very nicely. I have not, however, been able to program any sounds out of it myself. I have done numerous Internet searches on "/dev/sequencer" but the URLs produced either don't exist or just give general advice with coding issues, but no code snippets. Any code snippets, even ones that just produce one simple note would be very helpful. BTW, I _am_ getting sound through OSS with a cheap(ish) SB16 soundcard, no AWE32. Off topic seems the trend at the moment. :-) Paul Abraham. -- speaking for myself. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0813941061235428793==-- From rdbraasem@HISCOM.NL Mon Apr 19 09:54:50 1999 From: rdbraasem@HISCOM.NL To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Can't Open Initial Console (Solved) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:54:50 +0100 Message-ID: <99Apr19.105345gmt+0100.1599@bastion1.hiscom.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4202208998547183871==" --===============4202208998547183871== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To all of you who tried to help me : Thank you. I really thought I have the right root partition, but it turned out I was wrong, you where right. Problem solved and running smoothly. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4202208998547183871==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Apr 19 10:19:23 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] rexec command Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:19:23 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8774014277929525780==" --===============8774014277929525780== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, alexm wrote: > i can't seem to locate "rexec" in SuSE 6.0 > does it exist? Sure it does: > rpm -qf `which rexec`=20 nkitb-99.3.26-3 This is SuSE 6.1, but I am pretty sure, that it also exists in the same package on 6.0. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8774014277929525780==-- From markgray@iago.nac.net Mon Apr 19 10:24:14 1999 From: markgray@iago.nac.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LaTex Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:24:14 -0400 Message-ID: <6z7lr8lxgx.fsf@iago.nac.net> In-Reply-To: <000901be89f2$b2c68c40$050b883e@q3c5t6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3961587100351375239==" --===============3961587100351375239== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Geoff Newson" writes: [snip] >=20 > When I type the command: latex mydoc.tex > I get the error message: I can't find default format file! > I remebered seeing some FAQ or something that said the answer to this was to > run texconfig init and this would generate the missing format files. It > didn't. > If you can help I would appreciate it. 1) It sounds as if your installation of teTeX has gotten clobbered somehow --- as a first step I would suggest using rpm to verify your installation of teTeX: rpm -V tetex This will compare the MD5 sums of all the installed files with what should be there. If that discovers the problem just reinstall tetex I would guess (reinstalling anyway is another option :-) 2) You did not perhaps install tetex on top of ntex? According to "rpm -qi tetex": [snip] Do NOT install this package together with ntex! teTeX is NOT an upgrade or update for the ntex package!! [end quote] This could easily screw up kpathsea when it tries to search for things. =20 3) If you have tetex installed properly according to rpm -V (meaning also no remnants of old TeX installations) and it still does not work -- it could be that you have defined an environment variable that is leading kpathsea to search in the wrong place or that you have a ~/.tex file which is initialising something in the wrong way. If none of these ideas work, send me a copy of a the smallest file that fails to latex on your system and I will take a look at it. Hoping to be helpful. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3961587100351375239==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Apr 19 10:34:18 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Prodigal Son Returns Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:34:18 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <371986F7.F8C4ED6C@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4438466058783474883==" --===============4438466058783474883== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, George Toft wrote: > I'm sorry for chasing after the money and abandoning the one true > Linux. I was confused. >=20 > So what really changed my mind? My Red Hat box was my router to the > net via cable modem. I thought I had it pretty secure (TCP-wrappers > with a deny all policy, firewall, and only telnet and ftp available in > inetd.conf) and all errata applied, but lo and behold, the "Millenium > Internet Worm" got in and attacked my LAN and a whole slew of machines > on the 'Net. My ISP sent me a nastygram telling me to knock-off the > hacking. >=20 > In the post-mortem, guess what was completely unaffected (except for > making my logs bigger) - all of my SuSE 5.3 boxes. So now I have SuSE > 6.0 on my router and I gave Red Hat the boot. Welcome back :) It might be interesting to know, what exactly hindered the virus from infecting the SuSE 5.3 boxes. Different path names or less security holes? Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4438466058783474883==-- From EzMan@cableinet.co.uk Mon Apr 19 10:39:42 1999 From: EzMan@cableinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] xwindows Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:39:42 +0100 Message-ID: <371B07ED.4370DF31@cableinet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <000201be89e8$3549ce80$5d10adce@roman> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0485693162410115148==" --===============0485693162410115148== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable have you tried running SaX ?
make sure you know what video card you have and what resolutions and frequencies your monitor can handle
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landie wrote:

hi all: i am on my second day on linux
i configured xwindows and when i run startx i get "fatal server error no
valid modes "

advice is more than welcome,
thanks in advance

Rolando
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=20 --===============0485693162410115148==-- From sjaniska@inet.hr Mon Apr 19 10:42:53 1999 From: sjaniska@inet.hr To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: patching.... Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:42:53 -0100 Message-ID: <199904190818.KAA07940@bach.iskon.hr> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Re: patching....> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1027263310184255984==" --===============1027263310184255984== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:01:49 -0400 (EDT), dizzy73 wrote: >If Im overlooking something or being particullary stupid please correct >me. Im determined to get color in pine and Id appreciate any suggestions. >LIke I said Im at my witts end and..... >thanks I cannot help you much, but I just want to express my support to you to get color in pine. It would be really nice to have it. Sincerely, Sasa -------------------------------------------- Sasa Janiska Zagreb, Croatia E-mail: sjaniska(a)inet.hr -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at
<= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1027263310184255984==-- From Drow@Blazenet.net Mon Apr 19 11:53:03 1999 From: Drow@Blazenet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.x and Kernel 2.2.x Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:53:03 -0400 Message-ID: <371B191F.AD412628@Blazenet.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.x and Kernel 2.2.x> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3076992833526214087==" --===============3076992833526214087== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > Oh yeah.. one last question. Does anyone know what it means when I keep= getting > > > DMA messages in /var /log/messages like this: > > > Apr 18 13:21:01 rimez kernel: es1371: dma timed out?? > > > Apr 18 13:25:33 rimez kernel: es1371: dma timed out?? > > > I don't understand... everyting seems to be working OK. > > > TIA, > > > rimez > > > > sounds like you don't have the card setup right with isapnp >=20 > it's a PCI card ;-) >=20 The problem is still that the module cannot initialize the dma it wants to use. Mine is an onboard "PCI" card, the SoundPro PCI, but I still use isapnp with it just fine. Try using pnpdump to see if it finds it, or if you have winbloze installed see what io/dma settings it is using and set up your es1371 module to use these in conf.modules. =20 --=20 Aduanne Carter Drow(a)Blazenet.net / TrueDrow(a)Netscape.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3076992833526214087==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Mon Apr 19 12:28:36 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: patching.... Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:28:36 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904190818.KAA07940@bach.iskon.hr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4460336995974485991==" --===============4460336995974485991== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Sasa Janiska wrote: -> ->On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:01:49 -0400 (EDT), dizzy73 wrote: -> ->>If Im overlooking something or being particullary stupid please correct ->>me. Im determined to get color in pine and Id appreciate any suggestions. ->>LIke I said Im at my witts end and..... ->>thanks ->I cannot help you much, but I just want to express my support to you to ->get color in pine. ->It would be really nice to have it. ->Sincerely, ->Sasa -> ->-------------------------------------------- ->Sasa Janiska Thank you very much Sasa for your kind thoughts....however, it dosnt look like it will happen. Ive goten too frustrated with it and now think its best put on the back burner.(for a while) rob Linux Homepage http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm> S.= u.S.E Linux 5.3 =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4460336995974485991==-- From navi@cs.tu-berlin.de Mon Apr 19 12:40:13 1999 From: navi@cs.tu-berlin.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Soundcard AWE 64 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:40:13 +0200 Message-ID: <371B242D.72A75A4F@cs.tu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0844809919053729371==" --===============0844809919053729371== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi: Can someone help me to install my Soundcard (AWE 64) in the 5.3 Suse. It wont be recognized by Yast. Thanks, Ivan. (linux-newbie) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0844809919053729371==-- From jbennett@syr.edu Mon Apr 19 12:45:50 1999 From: jbennett@syr.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Solution: How to install Linux 1st, then NT on 2nd disk Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:45:50 +0000 Message-ID: <199904191245.MAA01707@maxwell.syr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0403900706540729142==" --===============0403900706540729142== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I posted a request for help some weeks ago and got several replies, though none worked. The problem was that I had Linux installed on sda1 and I didn't want to uninstall it. I doubt that this is a common problem, but just in case someone wants to do the same, here's a solution. I was able to install NT Workstation on sdb1 only by unplugging sda so that NT thought it was installing to the first disk. (Installation of NT Server may be more flexible.) Then the problem was to make the boot process find ntldr residing in sdb1. Here's the relevant part of the lilo.conf. After telling lilo where to find the NT stuff (sdb1), I used map-drive to=20 reverse the logical order of the disks. (Note that one does not use "table =3D" in this configuration. I don't know where partitioning info comes to NT ;) ____________________________________________________________ # LILO Konfigurations-Datei # Start LILO global Section boot=3D/dev/sda #backup=3D/boot/MBR.sda.110499 compact # faster, but won't work on all systems. #linear read-only message=3D/boot/message prompt timeout=3D100 vga =3D normal # force sane state # End LILO global section # Linux bootable partition config begins image =3D /boot/vmlinuz root =3D /dev/sda1 label =3D linux # Linux bootable partition config ends ... #NT config begins:=20 other =3D /dev/sdb1 label =3D NT map-drive=3D0x80 to =3D 0x81 map-drive=3D0x81 to =3D 0x80 #table =3D /dev/sdb #NT config ends ____________________________________________________________ Here's the boot.ini. Since the logical order of the disks was reversed using map-drive above, NT now thinks that it is on the first disk.=20 [Boot Loader] Timeout=3D5 Default=3Dmulti(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT [Operating Systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT=3D"Windows NT Workstation Version 4= .00" /NoSerialMice:COM2 multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT=3D"Windows NT Workstation Version 4= .00 [VGA mode]" /basevideo /sos /NoSerialMice:COM2 ____________________________________________________________ In no other way could I make NT look for ntldr on the second disk. jim bennett -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0403900706540729142==-- From kester@cwcom.net Mon Apr 19 12:51:42 1999 From: kester@cwcom.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] MS Word dependency Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:51:42 +0100 Message-ID: <000101be8a71$3a0fbcc0$2b0d1280@kester> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] MS Word dependency> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7862051919004081523==" --===============7862051919004081523== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why not wait til Corel get their act together - they've already announced they will port all their office suit to Linux / Unix; you can also run WordPerfect in Windows, thus it should be easy for them to have a conversion tool. Different systems, same document. Voil=C3=A0. k. -:Hi all. : :Over 500f all Microsoft profits come from MS Office. If this nut could be :cracked, those of us who HAVE to buy NT/Word to make a living would have an :alternative. M$ would be just another big software house rather than one :that can force me to pay it money so I can stay in business. : :It would be nice if a way could be found before I am forced to buy Windows :2000 and Office 2000. : :Question 1: is it technically feasable to have a small document opener, :perhaps running on WINE or even dosemu, that could open a *.doc cleanly and :then save it as html, xml or whatever is accessable to all OS? : :Question 2: if it is technically possible, Sun, IBM, Corel, Apple and all :the usual M$bashers would have a commercial interest in getting this done. :Take out 500f Microsoft profit and you take away the air of invincibility :that surrounds all M$ projects. Who else would have a commercial interest :in making this type of utility available? : :Question 3: if it is technically possible, has someone started on this? If :so, who are they and how can we get the message to the big boys that this :person, company or organisation needs caoital and programmers and that its :in their interest to provide them? : :Patrick : :> On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote: :> :> > I'd move to KDE tomorrow id I could open MS Word Documents. I'm a :> > recruiter and occasionally a CV comes in by fax or post but usually by :> > email. It's almost always MSWord. If a way could be found to open :> > *.docs, M$ would have a far smaller captive market. :> > :> > Perhaps thats why they keep changing the format? :> :> That's (reputed to be) exactly the reason. :> :> Has anyone tried opening Word documents in AbiWord? :> :> Matthew. :> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7862051919004081523==-- From francis.j.bruening@bigfoot.com Mon Apr 19 13:56:30 1999 From: francis.j.bruening@bigfoot.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] installing GNOME 1.0.x; need libglib.1.2.x Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:56:30 -0700 Message-ID: <000201be8a6c$6d9d9ee0$1c370018@potlnd1.or.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8982472048382128841==" --===============8982472048382128841== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I'm a relative newbie, and I'm trying to install the latest GNOME files from ftp.suse.com/GNOME I'm trying to install the core files first, and am finding a bunch of dependencies on libglib.1.2.?.so. ... I do an rpm -q libg and find I'm running 1.0.6.... Where do I find the latest libg package? I didn't find it on the ftp site. Any hints on how to get the new GNOME stuff working, or anything I need to watch out for? Thanks, Francis -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8982472048382128841==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Mon Apr 19 14:20:46 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] wvdial falure as user , works only as root Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:20:46 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990419142046.0107af98@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <199904180024.RAA24128@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7290041409306839941==" --===============7290041409306839941== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Were you reffering to yast over removing resolv.conf or the access denied error when wvdial trys to access the modem ?? At 05:24 PM 4/17/1999 -0700, you wrote: > >On 17 Apr, Samy Elashmawy wrote: >>=20 >> When accessing wvdial as my normal user I get a message /dev/modem access >> denied , however if I relog as root all worls well. >>=20 >> What/how Do I fix this >>=20 >> Also whenever I run yast it wipes out my resov.conf file ? >>=20 >> any Ideas why ?? >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >> Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the >> archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > >YAST has a control to "beautify" or generate files like /etc/hosts and >/etc/resolv.conf. Check out YAST -> System Administration -> Change >System Configuration or something like that... :) >=20 > >--=20 >Michael Perry >mperry(a)basin.com >---------------------- > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7290041409306839941==-- From joshaugh@uk.oracle.com Mon Apr 19 14:28:11 1999 From: joshaugh@uk.oracle.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] GNOME 1.0.x RPMs for SuSE 6 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:28:11 +0000 Message-ID: <372239f7.513314877@mailhost.uk.oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <37166B0A.69EF9FF1@world.std.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7422442362391873118==" --===============7422442362391873118== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Lenz Grimmer wrote: >[snip] >> There is now a directory on our ftp-Server and it's mirrors: >>=20 >> ftp://ftp.suse.= com/pub/suse_update/GNOME/glibc/1.0.x/> >[snip] I had previously been using SuSE GNOME RPMs from http://www.tu-harburg.de/skf/Pub/ifmpc118.ifm.uni-hamburg.de= /gnome.html> (the link from the www.gnome.org web page). Over the weekend I thought I'd try upgrading to the new SuSE built ones (the above link) - most of the packages are newer, however, one or two (mainly Enlightenment) are older :( I started off just doing rpm -Uh's but soon found out this wasn't going to work due to name differences. So I went through all of the rpms I had originally installed and erased them (rpm -e) in the opposite order to which I'd installed them (otherwise they complain about broken dependencies). I then installed all the rpms from the SuSE site without any trouble. I didn't bother to install Enlightenment and I removed my 0.15 install (I prefer to using windowmaker with gnome). Good news is it installed OK. Bad news is GNOME won't start correctly from KDM :( In fact running yast caused gnome and wmaker to be removed from the session list in KDM. I added them by hand (well using the KDE control center). Window maker runs fine now on it's own, but when you log on for a gnome session it doesn't start any window manager, just plain X and so you have to start windowmaker by hand (wmaker). Anyone know how to fix this? In the gnome control center I have windowmaker setup as the window manager but it's not starting it up when I log on. The only other problems I had was I lost all my gnome panel settings (anyone know why, was it 'cos I uninstalled gnome?) and there weren't as many icons in the SuSE builds (?). I'd recommend going to the new SuSE builds as everything seems to be there - unless you want the latest and greatest Enlightenment that is. Jamie ___________________________________________________________________________=20 Jamie O'Shaughnessy e-mail: joshaugh(a)uk.oracle.com=20 Designer Impact Analysis Team phone : 0118 92 45052=20 ______________________________________________________ __ __ _ __ . __=20 Opinions are my own and not those of... (__)|-<= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7422442362391873118==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Mon Apr 19 14:46:56 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.1 Download? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:46:56 +0200 Message-ID: <371B41E0.90FBB556@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.1 Download?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7971115049670094668==" --===============7971115049670094668== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rimez wrote: >=20 > Anyone know of a place to download the 6.1 beta? Or perhaps the name of the > magazine that it has it this month? > thanks, > rimez > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Quoting from my private mail to Daniel: It=C5=BDs PC-Welt 5/99, a german PC-Magazine, maybe the german version of PC-World. (If there is a Mag that name in the UK, at least there is a computer chain with that name...) But I don=C5=BDt know were to get it in the UK. The ISSN is 0175-0496. (Hopefully for the specific issue) Price in germany DM 7,20 thats about 2,50 quids in the UK. Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7971115049670094668==-- From alex@daniloff.com Mon Apr 19 14:50:46 1999 From: alex@daniloff.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Why kppp hangs on "Expecting OK" with the new 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 kernels !?!? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:50:46 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4565766911831366802==" --===============4565766911831366802== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello SuSE folks. Sorry I posted this question before but I didn't get an answer which solved my problem with kppp. I downloaded and compiled 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 kernels. I included all nessesary features as PPP, SLIP and so on. Exactly the same features I compiled into my original kernel 2.0.36 came with my SuSE 6.0 distro. When I use kppp for dial up with 2.2.5 or 2.2.6 kernel I can see only "Expecting OK" in the terminal window and nothing is happening after that. When I use kppp with 2.0.36 kernel it is perfectly dialing up and establishing connection with the same setting in etc/ppp, etc/suseppp, etc/rc.config and so on. I use internal ISA US Robotics jumpered real modem on COM2. Evidently it's not a modem related problem. May be I should update or reinstall some libraries for the new kernels? Could somebody point me where is a problem? May be someone had this problem also? Any help is gladly appreciated. Thank you in advance Alex. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4565766911831366802==-- From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr 19 14:56:12 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] GNOME 1.0.x RPMs for SuSE 6 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:56:12 -0700 Message-ID: <19990419075612.A3962@basin.com> In-Reply-To: <372239f7.513314877@mailhost.uk.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5369233004989200337==" --===============5369233004989200337== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry for not quoting your comments about gnome off the suse site. I downloaded all the rpms and have had rather severe problems getting them to behave correctly with rpms that another person did. There seems to be a lot of dependency changes for these rpms that were different in the earlier ones. Can anyone who originally used the rpms off the gnome site offer any explanation or approach to using the suse gnome stuff? I definitely could not upgrade the rpms. I think I probably need to uninstall everything from the earlier rpms and then apply the suse ones. This is not quite desirable since I spent some deal of time getting things working across the board. Any other comments? --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5369233004989200337==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Mon Apr 19 15:22:35 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] xosview shows 24 =?utf-8?q?IRQ=EF=BF=BDs?= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:22:35 +0200 Message-ID: <371B4A3B.83B76F4B@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3940893680250950909==" --===============3940893680250950909== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I just found out that xosview shows 24 IRQ=C5=BDs. Did I miss something very basic, or did someone miss to set the nunmber somewhere in the app. defaults? Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3940893680250950909==-- From kukuk@suse.de Mon Apr 19 15:35:09 1999 From: kukuk@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] rexec command Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:35:09 +0200 Message-ID: <19990419173509.A2008@allen.suse.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0378830161223688885==" --===============0378830161223688885== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, On Mon, Apr 19, Lenz Grimmer wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, alexm wrote: >=20 > > i can't seem to locate "rexec" in SuSE 6.0 > > does it exist? >=20 > Sure it does: >=20 > > rpm -qf `which rexec`=20 > nkitb-99.3.26-3 >=20 > This is SuSE 6.1, but I am pretty sure, that it also exists in the same > package on 6.0. No, SuSE Linux 6.0 does not contain rexec. It is new in 6.1. Thorsten --=20 Thorsten Kukuk http://www.suse.de/~kukuk/> kukuk(a)sus= e.de SuSE GmbH Schanzaeckerstr. 10 90443 Nuernberg Linux is like a Vorlon. It is incredibly powerful, gives terse, cryptic answers and has a lot of things going on in the background. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0378830161223688885==-- From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Mon Apr 19 15:44:20 1999 From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] MS Word dependency Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:44:20 +0100 Message-ID: <000301be8a7b$7db4bd40$1900000a@p25> In-Reply-To: <000101be8a71$3a0fbcc0$2b0d1280@kester> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7133495802328697451==" --===============7133495802328697451== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Because I'd like Open Source to succeed in replacing all proprietary outfits; nice though it is that Corel has ported to Linux, what is needed is a change of philosophy. Linux, KDE, etc. work because people can look at the code, see the problem and fix it. Corel is taking a completely different approach; their source code is their secret. The see Linux as a M$ free environment where they can make good money. I think they're right but that to succeed, they need to take the different nature of Open Source software into account. Patrick > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of Kester Clegg > Sent: Monday, 19 April 1999 13:52 > To: Suse-Linux-E > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] MS Word dependency > > > > Why not wait til Corel get their act together - they've already announced > they will port all their office suit to Linux / Unix; you can also run > WordPerfect in Windows, thus it should be easy for them to have a > conversion > tool. Different systems, same document. Voil=C3=A0. > k. > > -:Hi all. > : > :Over 500f all Microsoft profits come from MS Office. If this nut could > be > :cracked, those of us who HAVE to buy NT/Word to make a living > would have an > :alternative. M$ would be just another big software house rather than one > :that can force me to pay it money so I can stay in business. > : > :It would be nice if a way could be found before I am forced to > buy Windows > :2000 and Office 2000. > : > :Question 1: is it technically feasable to have a small document opener, > :perhaps running on WINE or even dosemu, that could open a *.doc > cleanly and > :then save it as html, xml or whatever is accessable to all OS? > : > :Question 2: if it is technically possible, Sun, IBM, Corel, > Apple and all > :the usual M$bashers would have a commercial interest in getting > this done. > :Take out 500f Microsoft profit and you take away the air of > invincibility > :that surrounds all M$ projects. Who else would have a > commercial interest > :in making this type of utility available? > : > :Question 3: if it is technically possible, has someone started on this? > If > :so, who are they and how can we get the message to the big boys that this > :person, company or organisation needs caoital and programmers > and that its > :in their interest to provide them? > : > :Patrick > : > :> On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote: > :> > :> > I'd move to KDE tomorrow id I could open MS Word Documents. I'm a > :> > recruiter and occasionally a CV comes in by fax or post but > usually by > :> > email. It's almost always MSWord. If a way could be found to open > :> > *.docs, M$ would have a far smaller captive market. > :> > > :> > Perhaps thats why they keep changing the format? > :> > :> That's (reputed to be) exactly the reason. > :> > :> Has anyone tried opening Word documents in AbiWord? > :> > :> Matthew. > :> > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7133495802328697451==-- From joshaugh@uk.oracle.com Mon Apr 19 16:24:42 1999 From: joshaugh@uk.oracle.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] GNOME 1.0.x RPMs for SuSE 6 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:24:42 +0000 Message-ID: <372357a5.520912893@mailhost.uk.oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <19990419075612.A3962@basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5787033621696744223==" --===============5787033621696744223== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19 Apr 99 15:56:12 +0100, you wrote: >Sorry for not quoting your comments about gnome off the suse site. I >downloaded all the rpms and have had rather severe problems getting them to >behave correctly with rpms that another person did. There seems to be a lot >of dependency changes for these rpms that were different in the earlier >ones. Can anyone who originally used the rpms off the gnome site offer any >explanation or approach to using the suse gnome stuff? I definitely could >not upgrade the rpms. I think I probably need to uninstall everything from >the earlier rpms and then apply the suse ones. This is not quite desirable >since I spent some deal of time getting things working across the board. (As I said in my original mail) I think the only way is to remove all the orginal rpms and then install the new ones. It seems the package names don't match up at all and also the contents of the packages don't match up. The main thing I couldn't get working was gnome starting windowmaker as the window manager. When I log in (from kdm for a gnome session) it doesn't start a windowmanager and I have to type wmaker at the prompt. This is a real pain. I've set wmaker as the window manager in the gnome control center but it doesn't seem to take any notice of it... :( Hopefully upgrading will be worth it if SuSE keep their rpms more up to date... Jamie ___________________________________________________________________________=20 Jamie O'Shaughnessy e-mail: joshaugh(a)uk.oracle.com=20 Designer Impact Analysis Team phone : 0118 92 45052=20 ______________________________________________________ __ __ _ __ . __=20 Opinions are my own and not those of... (__)|-<= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5787033621696744223==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 19 16:41:21 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] GNOME 1.0.x RPMs for SuSE 6 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:41:21 +0200 Message-ID: <371B5CB1.77FA7A5F@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <19990419075612.A3962@basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5151945840857827984==" --===============5151945840857827984== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Perry wrote: > Can anyone who originally used the rpms off the gnome site offer any > explanation or approach to using the suse gnome stuff? I definitely could > not upgrade the rpms. I think I probably need to uninstall everything from > the earlier rpms and then apply the suse ones. This is not quite desirable > since I spent some deal of time getting things working across the board. --===============5151945840857827984==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Mon Apr 19 16:41:52 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Helpfull links for setup of a firewall Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:41:52 +0200 Message-ID: <371B5CD0.E4ACD462@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0209947449216347911==" --===============0209947449216347911== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I wanted to shared a few links for set-up of a firewall. http://www.fen.baynet.de/~ft114/FCT.htm> This link if so see whether someone has made an attempt to attack the firewall. http= ://www.nessus.org/> Regards, Joop Boonen. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0209947449216347911==-- From mezger@surfree.com Mon Apr 19 16:49:34 1999 From: mezger@surfree.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] printer working (was SuSE 6.x and Kernel 2.2.x) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:49:34 -0400 Message-ID: <99041913023900.05845@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2521879396619807577==" --===============2521879396619807577== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well thanks to everyones help my printer is now working. All I did was to uninstall all of the printer software from my computer completely (aps, GS, a= nd all configs). After I reinstalled all of it, everything worked fine. I'm assuming that I had simply overlooked something the first time around.=20 Now my next goal is to find a copy of the German magazine that has a copy of SuSE 6.1 (this will probally be impossible though ;-)=20 thanks everyone, rimez -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2521879396619807577==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Mon Apr 19 17:04:54 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:04:54 +0200 Message-ID: <371B6236.EC6B1700@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <37189899.816C55EC@tir.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5458265759953199692==" --===============5458265759953199692== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All, According to a web page i have found it's possible to use a celeron on a dual pentium board. The link is: http://bxboards.com/dual.htm> , http://www.cpu-centra= l.com/dualceleron/index-dc.html> , h= ttp://www.ocean.ic.net/mail/archive/lugwash-archive/0722.html> , http://kikumaru.w-w.ne.jp/p= c/celeron/index_e.html> It of course at your own risk. According to the web pages it works. I myself = would advice a Socket 370 celeron and a adapter pcb to slot one as you won't loose warranty on the celeron chip when it'll be defective. Regards, Joop Boonen. Robert Russell wrote: > There is one short coming to the Celeron. The Celeron will not support > SMP. I am told as that has been disabled, that is certain "connections" > have been broken intentionally by Intel. > > Reagards, > > Bob > > Rachel Greenham wrote: > > > > In message <Pine.LNX.3.96.990416110315.4439C-10= 0000(a)server.easi.soft.net> > > S K SENTHIL VEL wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I just have a doubt, I couldn't find Celeron Processor in the support > > > database at SuSE site. So I just want to know which version S.u.S.E will > > > support this Processor. > > > > Well, we just helped a friend install SuSE 6.0 on her Celeron PC last wee= kend > > without any hitches at all. > > > > A Celeron (or "Celery" as we call it) is effectively a Pentium II as far = as > > compatibility issues go. > > > > In fact, Kira here's now got it working on an AmSC410 embedded PC board (= but > > that was after working around a LILO bug that none of the LILO maintainers > > wants to acknowledge is there). > > > > Having said that, once she loses the luxury of a hard disk and it has to = run > > off 8Mb of Flash with no swap, I think it won't be SuSE but some distro of > > her own possibly derived from Slackware. > > > > BTW, SuSE 6.0 runs just fine on the 486 8Mb notebook she just acquired. K= DE > > is too heavy for it (it runs, but too slowly) so it's mainly used at the > > command-line or qvwm, though it's also used as an X terminal to our big S= uSE > > box, for use in bed at the other end of a 25m 10baseT cable, and then of > > course, KDE is fine! > > > > -- > > Rachel > > http://www.enlarion.demon.co.uk/> > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/S= upport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5458265759953199692==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Mon Apr 19 17:08:04 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Is Celeron Supported ?? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:08:04 +0200 Message-ID: <371B62F4.DC07F7@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6546678081066255661==" --===============6546678081066255661== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All, According to a web page i have found it's possible to use a celeron on a dual pentium board. The link is: http://bxboards.com/dual.htm> , http://www.cpu-centra= l.com/dualceleron/index-dc.html> , h= ttp://www.ocean.ic.net/mail/archive/lugwash-archive/0722.html> , http://kikumaru.w-w.ne.jp/p= c/celeron/index_e.html> It of course at your own risk. According to the web pages it works. I myself would advice a Socket 370 celeron and a adapter pcb to slot one as you won't loose warranty on the celeron chip when it'll be defective. Regards, Joop Boonen. S K SENTHIL VEL wrote: > Does that mean even if I built a new kernel for SMP, Celeron will not > support it ????? 'coz I am planning for a Dual processor. > > Regards, > Senthil Vel > > On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Robert Russell wrote: > > > > > There is one short coming to the Celeron. The Celeron will not support > > SMP. I am told as that has been disabled, that is certain "connections" > > have been broken intentionally by Intel. > > > > Reagards, > > > > Bob > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6546678081066255661==-- From mezger@surfree.com Mon Apr 19 17:25:59 1999 From: mezger@surfree.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] making statically linked binaries Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:25:59 -0400 Message-ID: <99041913281600.05958@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6179097097446615471==" --===============6179097097446615471== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know where I can find info on making statically linked binaries? thanks, rimez -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6179097097446615471==-- From tosh@mail.dma.be Mon Apr 19 17:30:50 1999 From: tosh@mail.dma.be To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] kernel upgrade? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:30:50 +0200 Message-ID: <371B684A.F8DD1C11@mail.dma.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6674918521509288880==" --===============6674918521509288880== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi What is the difference between the 2.0.X series of kernels and the 2.2.X series? I have a PII (not proud of it) 266 Mhz and I'm running SuSE 6.0 2.0.36, do I have to upgrade to the current 2.2.5? What are the advantages? Disadvantages? And if I upgrade, do I need to upgrade to a SuSE version of the 2.2.5 or will the general kernel work for me too? Best regards and thanks in advance Martin Brice Martin Brice Belgium, Europe personal email: tosh(a)mail.dma.be -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6674918521509288880==-- From snapek@yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 17:38:28 1999 From: snapek@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast! Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:38:28 -0700 Message-ID: <19990419173828.16712.rocketmail@web129.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3082650832592298149==" --===============3082650832592298149== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I apologize for posting this message here, as its not FULLY SuSE related, but I'm at mind end here. I recently aquired a Pentium 60, with 40 Megs ram, which I used to take place of my old 486 DX4 100MHZ, with 8 Megs ram. I thought that an upgrade of such, even with the 100mhz of the dx4 being equivilant to a P75, would help. I even got a 2 meg video card in the process, taking place of my old VGA card, which I havent even any idea of how much it had. To my UTTER suprise, I noticed when booting of the SuSE install disk, the new system was MUCH slower. In the 486, the little ansi/ascii menu's just popped up, and all, without thinking (too much), or blank screens. With the pentium, the menu's display in a choppy, blinky, all around messy process that takes yast around 5 mins to load up. (scary huh?) I was wondering if anyone would know if there might be a hardware conflict I might have missed, or if the boot disks are just automatically set up to act like its running on a crappy 386. (I figure, based on the fact it took me 4 1/2 hours to compile my flippin' kernel, that the system is running equivilant to a 386/16 (dx2 even!)). Anyways, sorry to post this here, but I didnt know of elsewhere to go :). Thanks, Keith Snape _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3082650832592298149==-- From edg@euronet.nl Mon Apr 19 18:15:29 1999 From: edg@euronet.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] help with mail and some others Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:15:29 +0000 Message-ID: <371f7287.3024427@smtp.euronet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0059535000825233134==" --===============0059535000825233134== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 i am installing SuSe linux 5.3 and a isdn card type teles 16.0 The card is working but a few things are not: I have a static ip adres from my provider this ip is different from the ip adres i use for the internal net. My internal ip for eth0 is 192.168.1.1 This machine is corner-1 (corner-1.tri-angle.demon.nl) The domain i have got from my internet provider is tri-angle.demon.nl and a different ip adres 212.238.105.11 The system is not mentioned to be permanent on line What is the ip of my point-to-point partner in this case?=20 - is it the ip i got from my provider?=20 - is it the ip of the gateway of my provider? and what do i fill in in the "ip adres of your machine" is it the local ip in the 192.x range or the ip given by my provider? The second problem i have is that once, the system connected automaticly to the internet when i started lynx but now it wont do that. Do i need masquerading or do i have to set a default route or an nameserver? Do i need additional route statements or gateways?=20 The Third problem i have is that email send from my system is not send by sendmail. It seems to do something that my domain for my provider should be tri-angle.demon.nl but that the machine that is running linux is named corner-1.tri-angle.demon.nl so i think i have to set things a different way.=20 What to i set in or yast (prefered) or in the different control files? Do i need named ? do i need an another sendmail m4 script ?=20 lots of questions, when it is al clear and running i will document it dutch or englisch and make shure other suse users can use it in the future.=20 Thanks for your help ------------------------------------------------------------ You can also reach me at the following locations: My Homepage.....:http://www.euronet.nl/users/edg/> My Fax..........:Tri-Angle 31-(0)71-5612643 My Mobile phone.:31-(0)6-53924075 My Work.........:PaC Professional Services PaC Homepage....:http://www.pac.nl> ------------------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0059535000825233134==-- From raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu Mon Apr 19 18:44:59 1999 From: raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] GNOME 1.0.x RPMs for SuSE 6 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:44:59 -0400 Message-ID: <371B79AB.672A6CD5@neuronet.pitt.edu> In-Reply-To: <372357a5.520912893@mailhost.uk.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5279340020034553621==" --===============5279340020034553621== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I've tried the RPMs for SuSE 6.0 made available at the GNOME site. They worked OK, but the guy who created them took his site down, and is no longer accessible and there is no info if he will update them. In any case, I would not recommend those RPMs, since they replace other SuSE packages under different package names and have incomplete development packages. Next, I tried to compile the latest version from the GNOME site. Of course I didn't install them in the system's directories, but rather in a separate directory in /opt. I had but one problem compiling Guile, the rest compiled fine. I'm running that now, and had very little problems. I have also tried the SuSE RPMs in a separate installation. These packages have a mix of old and new versions of the libraries and packages mentioned in the GNOME site. The following are outdated: Current SuSE RPM 0.2.8 esound-0.2.7-11.i386.rpm Esound 0.4 fnlib-0.2-49.i386.rpm fnlib =20 0.5 gtkeng-0.4-11.i386.rpm Gtk-engine - themes 1.0.2 gnadmin-1.0.1-8.i386.rpm GNOME admin tools 1.0.2 gnobjc-1.0.1-9.i386.rpm GNOME objective C 0.15.5 enlight-0.14-11.i386.rpm Enlightment, a window manager 1.0.2 gtop-1.0.1-10.i386.rpm Gtop, a viewer for system resources 0.52.0 wmaker-0.51.1-8.i386.rpm WindowMaker, a window manager These seem to be missing: gnome-python-1.0.1.tar.gz gnome-core-1.0.5.tar.gz enlightenment-conf-0.15.tar.gz gnome-pim-1.0.7.tar.gz The first two being 'required' by the GNOME site instructions. I'm sure there must ba a reason why those versions were released at the SuSE site and I congratulate SuSE for trying to keeping us with up-to-date software. But after I installed the packages and running X windows I couldn't find the control panel, you know, the bar with the foot on it. Did I miss installing one of the packages? I believe that program is called 'panel' and I couldn't find it after the installation. The Enlightenment WM has no mouse menus and I have to start the gnome utilities from a shell prompt. The lack of this control panel has me bummed. How about some installation documentation? One gets the best from gnome from it's interactions with the WM, how about updating the Enlightenment and WindowMaker WMs? Thank you for the effort. --=20 Rafael Herrera Laboratory for Computational Neuroscience University of Pittsburgh http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~raffo> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5279340020034553621==-- From markgray@iago.nac.net Mon Apr 19 19:11:01 1999 From: markgray@iago.nac.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] making statically linked binaries Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:11:01 -0400 Message-ID: <6zwvz8l92y.fsf@iago.nac.net> In-Reply-To: <99041913281600.05958@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2154638364037645412==" --===============2154638364037645412== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rimez writes: >=20 >=20 > Does anyone know where I can find info on making statically linked binaries? > thanks, > rimez man gcc -static On systems that support dynamic linking, this pre- vents linking with the shared libraries. On other systems, this option has no effect. man ld -Bstatic Do not link against shared libraries. This is only meaningful on platforms for which shared libraries are supported. (the info files give more detail) Basically depending on whether the makefile uses gcc or ld to link, you need to add the above to the options. Hope this helps. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2154638364037645412==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Mon Apr 19 19:25:59 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Magazine with beta-6.1 (was printer working) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:25:59 +0200 Message-ID: <371B8347.AE24A951@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <99041913023900.05845@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1704440937814395877==" --===============1704440937814395877== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rimez wrote: >=20 > Well thanks to everyones help my printer is now working. All I did was to > uninstall all of the printer software from my computer completely (aps, GS,= and > all configs). After I reinstalled all of it, everything worked fine. I'm > assuming that I had simply overlooked something the first time around. > Now my next goal is to find a copy of the German magazine that has a copy of > SuSE 6.1 (this will probally be impossible though ;-) > thanks everyone, > rimez Nice to hear your printer is working. For the magazine, be aware: It=C5=BDs a beta-6.1 (pre-release) and it=C5=BDs not *5* disks, but one, just= the base system, X, KDE and some (enough) stuff to play with. There is still some other Win based stuff on the CD. Do not expect to much, even if you get it. Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1704440937814395877==-- From ttwkam@yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 19:34:15 1999 From: ttwkam@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] make Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:34:15 -0700 Message-ID: <19990419193415.16536.rocketmail@web606.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] make> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3049777954412635899==" --===============3049777954412635899== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds like the Makefile is either missing or corrupted from your distribution of wmppp. Check the Makefile to see if there is an 'all' and an 'install' rules. --- yuj jonah wrote: >=20 > What I'm I doing wrong here. I have untar files > before ran make and all goes well. Well with this > one file wmppp-1.3.0.tar, I untar it, but when i run > make this is what i get No rules to make target > 'all'. stop, also when i run make install i'm still > getting the same error. what i'm i missing here. >=20 > Thanks very much. >=20 >=20 > HotBot - Search smarter. > http= ://www.hotbot.com> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to > majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > archive at > http://www.= suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 =3D=3D=3D Regards, Ted _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3049777954412635899==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Mon Apr 19 19:42:19 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast! Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:42:19 +0200 Message-ID: <371B871B.F0BC1ABF@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <19990419173828.16712.rocketmail@web129.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2226296412148052828==" --===============2226296412148052828== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Keith, there are many reasons why your system might be so slow, I=C5=BDd expect it to be as fast as the DX4-100 at least, the 40 MB memory should make it better. 1st: are you sure you use "turbo mode" ? do you have a checking program that tells you the speed of your cpu?? (as a rough guide, you can use the BOGOMIPS statement on bootup. If you close / open jumpers, tune for maximum. Do not belive in a glowing turbo led or speed display. 2nd: did you enable CPU cache und 2nd level cache in the system BIOS? There might be more BIOS options as well, CPU/Mem wait states, cache strikes most. For finding oout about hardware conflicts, I=C5=BDd use as less hw as possible for a test: video card(s) (different) and boot floppy and watch the boot process. Furthermore, I=C5=BDd check jumper settings, maybe the proud previous owner made a mistake setting up his system and took never notice. That=C5=BDs as much "standard stuff" as I can think of in the moment. Others will react as well and you=C5=BDll end up with a nice collection.... Juergen Keith Snape wrote: >=20 > I apologize for posting this message here, as its not > FULLY SuSE related, but I'm at mind end here. I > recently aquired a Pentium 60, with 40 Megs ram, which > I used to take place of my old 486 DX4 100MHZ, with 8 > Megs ram. I thought that an upgrade of such, even > with the 100mhz of the dx4 being equivilant to a P75, > would help. I even got a 2 meg video card in the > process, taking place of my old VGA card, which I > havent even any idea of how much it had. To my UTTER > suprise, I noticed when booting of the SuSE install > disk, the new system was MUCH slower. In the 486, the > little ansi/ascii menu's just popped up, and all, > without thinking (too much), or blank screens. With > the pentium, the menu's display in a choppy, blinky, > all around messy process that takes yast around 5 mins > to load up. (scary huh?) I was wondering if anyone > would know if there might be a hardware conflict I > might have missed, or if the boot disks are just > automatically set up to act like its running on a > crappy 386. (I figure, based on the fact it took me 4 > 1/2 hours to compile my flippin' kernel, that the > system is running equivilant to a 386/16 (dx2 even!)). >=20 > Anyways, sorry to post this here, but I didnt know of > elsewhere to go :). >=20 --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2226296412148052828==-- From ttwkam@yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 20:10:58 1999 From: ttwkam@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel Upgrade Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:10:58 -0700 Message-ID: <19990419201058.28028.rocketmail@web601.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Kernel Upgrade> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7192654787271420945==" --===============7192654787271420945== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am running 6.0 with kernel 2.0.36. How much trouble is it to upgrade to 2.2.5 or 2.2.6??? Appreciate any replies. --- lunaslide wrote: >=20 > Dwight Johnson wrote: > >=20 > > On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, lunaslide wrote: > >=20 > > > To move from a 2.0 kernel to 2.2, there are > quite a few changes needed. > > > First, go to suse's ftp site and download all > the updates, especially > > > the kernmod, devs, and lx_suse packages. Best > to get all the updates. > >=20 > > I looked around at ftp.suse.com and didn't see the > required updates. > > How about a roadmap? I am using SuSE 5.2. >=20 > Sorry bro. It maybe time to upgrade to 6.x. 6.1 > should have all that > you're looking for. I couldn't begin to tell you > what stuff you would > need to upgrade to use a 2.2 kernel. >=20 > --=20 > lunaslide * PGP > key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 > * * * * * =20 > =20 > My songs are of time and distance. The sadness is > in you. * =20 > Watch my arms. There is only the dance. These > things you *=20 > treasure are shells. * -Count Zero, W Gibson > * =20 > * * * =20 > * * > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to > majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > archive at > http://www.= suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 =3D=3D=3D Regards, Ted _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7192654787271420945==-- From drew@adapco.com Mon Apr 19 20:11:32 1999 From: drew@adapco.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] redhat motif and suse Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:11:32 -0400 Message-ID: <371B8DF4.505BE7B2@adapco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8391566859802282375==" --===============8391566859802282375== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm considering buying redhat's motif 2.1.10. Has anybody tried this with suse 6.0? I really want to stick with suse because it confirues easily and runs out of the box. But the current version of motif I have is from XIG and is only 1.2. I need a 2.X motif. xig doesn't plan on releasing a 2.X motif for a while. Any ideas? Thanks Drew -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8391566859802282375==-- From ttwkam@yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 20:21:18 1999 From: ttwkam@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Xwrapper problem Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:21:18 -0700 Message-ID: <19990419202118.15016.rocketmail@web603.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Xwrapper problem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2744276688275532023==" --===============2744276688275532023== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had the same problem with 6.0. I found that I've played around package selection too much on SuSE installation. I took out some libraries necessary to run X. The easiest way would be to reinstall and try not to be too creative in selecting packages. --- Mark Wagnon wrote: >=20 > Hi all: >=20 > I just installed SuSE 6 and I am having problems > getting X to run. I > couldn't run SaX or XF86Setup at all, so I used > XF86Config. I went > through the whole process without a hitch, but when > I tried to start X > via startx I got: >=20 > /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper: error in loading shared > libraries > libgz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such > file or directory >=20 > Shouldn't everthing I needed to get X running have > been installed during > the initial installation? If not, where might I find > out how to fix it? >=20 > TIA >=20 > Mark > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to > majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > archive at > http://www.= suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 =3D=3D=3D Regards, Ted _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2744276688275532023==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Mon Apr 19 20:28:49 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast! Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:28:49 -1000 Message-ID: <371B9200.666A981F@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <19990419173828.16712.rocketmail@web129.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8155182035812369985==" --===============8155182035812369985== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Keith Snape wrote: >=20 > I apologize for posting this message here, as its not > FULLY SuSE related, but I'm at mind end here. I > recently aquired a Pentium 60, with 40 Megs ram, which > I used to take place of my old 486 DX4 100MHZ, with 8 > Megs ram. I thought that an upgrade of such, even > with the 100mhz of the dx4 being equivilant to a P75, > would help. I even got a 2 meg video card in the > process, taking place of my old VGA card, which I > havent even any idea of how much it had. To my UTTER > suprise, I noticed when booting of the SuSE install > disk, the new system was MUCH slower. In the 486, the > little ansi/ascii menu's just popped up, and all, > without thinking (too much), or blank screens. With > the pentium, the menu's display in a choppy, blinky, > all around messy process that takes yast around 5 mins > to load up. (scary huh?) I was wondering if anyone > would know if there might be a hardware conflict I > might have missed, or if the boot disks are just > automatically set up to act like its running on a > crappy 386. (I figure, based on the fact it took me 4 > 1/2 hours to compile my flippin' kernel, that the > system is running equivilant to a 386/16 (dx2 even!)). I noticed the same thing on a 486dx2/66. I had SuSE 5.3, and setup went pretty quick. Then I put SuSE 6.0 (install from scratch) and it bogged like an old 386. I don't think it's an interrupt anywhere. After the system rebooted, it worked fine, if not just a bit slower than before. --=20 George Toft http://gtoft.dynip.com/LinuxAdvocate= /> __ __ _ __ __ __ ___ ___ | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / -o) | | | | | \_| | | | | | \ \/ / (o- /\\ | |__ | | | | | |_| | / /\ \ //\ _\_v |_____||__| |__|\___| \_______| /__/ \__\ v_/_ Don't fear the penguins... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8155182035812369985==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Mon Apr 19 20:35:03 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] making statically linked binaries Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:35:03 -0500 Message-ID: <371B9377.74384AE9@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <99041913281600.05958@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4816436387819368547==" --===============4816436387819368547== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rimez wrote: >=20 > Does anyone know where I can find info on making statically linked binaries? > thanks, > rimez > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Static libraries are simply collections of object files (*.o) arranged by the ar (archiver) utility. ar collects object files into one archive file and adds a table that tells which object files in the archive define what symbols. The linker, ld, then binds references to a symbol in one object file to the definition of that symbol in an object file in the archive. Static libraries use the suffix (*.a). You can convert a group of object files into a state library with a command like: ar rcs libname.a foo.o bar1.0 bar2.o You can also ad one object file at a time to an existing archive: ar rcs libname.a foo.o ar rcs libname.a bar1.o ar rcs libname.a bar2.o In either case, libname.a will be the same. The options used here are: r replace any object files the library that have the same name c silently create library if it does not exist s maintain the table mapping symbol names to object file names. ar has other options and the man pages describe them. The command, ranlib, generates an index for the library, which enables the linker to find the routines within the library. Read its man pages on it also.=20 If you want to see which functions are included in an object file, library or executable file use the nm command. You can see which shared libraries are required by a program by running the utility ldd. --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4816436387819368547==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Mon Apr 19 20:41:53 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound and KDE 1.1 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:41:53 -0500 Message-ID: <371B9511.9DF94AC5@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <371A32CF.C1BE427B@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0986343163649938526==" --===============0986343163649938526== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Juergen Braukmann wrote: >=20 > Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > > > > Juergen Braukmann wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I=C5=BDve upgraded to KDE 1.1 with an beta SuSE 6.1 from a magazine. No= w, my > > > sound is gone. ;-( I can play sounds with rplay, but KDE won=C5=BDt. > > > I suppose I=C5=BDve missed some librarys, since some sound controls (pr= obably > > > old or changes files) still ask for libanything.so.1 and all libs are > > > libanything.so.2.0.0 by now. > > > > > > All suggestions welcome! ;-)) > > > > > > Juergen > > > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com= /Support/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > > > In ../kde/bin/startkde uncomment the two lines that will start the > > audio. Read the warning assoicated with doing this. I've found that > > when I run KDE as root it can occasionally hang when logging out, but > > not always. As a user KDE never gives me any hanging problems when I > > close it. > > >=20 > wonderful ;-)) >=20 > that=C5=BDs it. Just the double click is left now... >=20 Read about the gpm program using man --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0986343163649938526==-- From nhasan@usa.net Mon Apr 19 20:49:57 1999 From: nhasan@usa.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] WU-FTPD documentation Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:49:57 -0400 Message-ID: <371B96F4.B6FFEFE0@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2459054793538979565==" --===============2459054793538979565== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Can someone point me to some WU-FTPD documentation? I am trying to setup ftp on my machine and don't have any docs. Nadeem -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2459054793538979565==-- From paspartu@uni.net Mon Apr 19 21:07:40 1999 From: paspartu@uni.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kexpress Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:07:40 +0200 Message-ID: <99041923085101.00340@kamikazen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8848204027994178923==" --===============8848204027994178923== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ciao! A new rpm at: http://adriatico.prisma.rm.cnr.it/~maur= izio> It's Kexpress version 0.2.0. Description: "Kexpress is a newsreader for linux developed with the tools of the KDE-Project and the QT-Library. The program is still growing up and in development phase. Easy to use, with offline reading." Requirements: qtlib >=3D1.42 KDE 1.1 SuSE6.x (i.e. glibc based). Maurizio=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8848204027994178923==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 19 21:42:43 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WU-FTPD documentation Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:42:43 +0200 Message-ID: <371BA353.65199EE1@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <371B96F4.B6FFEFE0@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5965637469197937161==" --===============5965637469197937161== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nadeem Hasan wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Can someone point me to some WU-FTPD documentation? > I am trying to setup ftp on my machine and don't have > any docs. The sources contain some example configuration files in the=20 doc/examples directory. The other files in doc/ are the man pages, which you should have anyway. These are ftpd, ftpaccess, ftpconversions, ftpcount, ftphosts, ftpshut, ftpwho, realpath and xferlog. There is also an FAQ (990301) at ftp://ftp.vr.net/pub/wu-ftpd/wu-ftpd-= faq.txt> as well as ftp://ftp.vr.= net/pub/wu-ftpd/upload.configuration.HOWTO> and ftp://ftp.vr.net/pub/wu= -ftpd/telnet.testing.HOWTO> Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5965637469197937161==-- From mistrM@gtemail.net Mon Apr 19 21:49:17 1999 From: mistrM@gtemail.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WU-FTPD documentation Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:49:17 -0700 Message-ID: <001101be8aae$7ac620a0$2c9dfea9@M.flashcom.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] WU-FTPD documentation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6887993361714247064==" --===============6887993361714247064== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try: http://www.camk.ed= u.pl/~tomek/local/WU-FTP/index.html> Don't forget to check the SuSE security page. There is a patch there for a wu-ftp exploit. >Hi, > >Can someone point me to some WU-FTPD documentation? >I am trying to setup ftp on my machine and don't have >any docs. > >Nadeem > >-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6887993361714247064==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 19 21:50:37 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel Upgrade Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:50:37 +0200 Message-ID: <371BA52D.5B025EDD@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <19990419201058.28028.rocketmail@web601.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4207453864409828082==" --===============4207453864409828082== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable T Kam wrote: >=20 > Am running 6.0 with kernel 2.0.36. How much trouble is it to upgrade > to 2.2.5 or 2.2.6??? Appreciate any replies. None at all. Either get the latest (2.2.6) and compile it or use Yast to install the 2.1.131 from the Suse CD and then get and compile 2.2.6 If you are using a firewall, you should also install ipchains from the CD. ipfwadm no longer works with 2.2 kernels. You should also scan your configuration files, startscripts etc for appearances of /dev/cuaX. These are obsolete. Replace them with the coirresponding /dev/ttySX. The latter also work with the 2.0 kernels. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4207453864409828082==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 19 21:53:32 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.1 Download? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:53:32 +0200 Message-ID: <371BA5DC.762F89C0@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <371B41E0.90FBB556@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3376330380999660542==" --===============3376330380999660542== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why would you want to do that? Real 6.1 intl is announced for may 3. And there have been some problems with the Cebit and (i think) with the mag beta. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3376330380999660542==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 19 21:56:27 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] overwriting gnome Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:56:27 +0200 Message-ID: <371BA68B.D5ED48BB@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <199904192143.OAA06031@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2887640270339130502==" --===============2887640270339130502== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tf wrote: >=20 > Hey all >=20 > This filesystem's a bear. I'm downloading all the gnome 1.01 rpms. Will t= hese rpms overwrite any files which might > be "in the way?" If so, good. I mangled the gnome I had while playing... >=20 > I want to get rid of programs that I did not use yast or rpms to install, a= nd I probably put them in weird places. Poor boy. It will cost you a lot of work to get rid of that. And be sure, you will have to get rid of that stuff to get a properly working gnome suite. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2887640270339130502==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 19 22:03:13 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] kernel upgrade? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:03:13 +0200 Message-ID: <371BA821.48AC0BE9@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <371B684A.F8DD1C11@mail.dma.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8064447969790250470==" --===============8064447969790250470== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable _bLaDe_ wrote: >=20 > Hi >=20 > What is the difference between the 2.0.X series of kernels and the 2.2.X > series? Have a look at = http://edge.= linuxhq.com/changelist.cgi?show=3D2.2>.=20 > I have a PII (not proud of it) 266 Mhz and I'm running SuSE 6.0 2.0.36, > do I have to upgrade to the current 2.2.5? It's not a must. But keep in mind that 2.0.37 (coming within the next ten days) will be the last kernel of the 2.0 series. 2.2 is the present. 2.3/4 the future and bleeding edge. > What are the advantages? Disadvantages? And if I upgrade, do I need to > upgrade to a SuSE version of the 2.2.5 or will the general kernel work > for me too? The general kernel is ok. I have never used any kind of special kernels with suse. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8064447969790250470==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 19 22:07:49 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] making statically linked binaries Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:07:49 +0200 Message-ID: <371BA935.37AB077B@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <99041913281600.05958@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0141841668266927469==" --===============0141841668266927469== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rimez wrote: >=20 > Does anyone know where I can find info on making statically linked binaries? > thanks, Most configure scripts accept --enable-static and --enable-shared and the corressponding --disable parameters. You should invoke configure with the --help parameter prior to actually configuring a package. Henning BTW you've got a pretty usefull website --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0141841668266927469==-- From ttwkam@yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 22:26:56 1999 From: ttwkam@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] upgrading CPU Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:26:56 -0700 Message-ID: <19990419222656.22238.rocketmail@web608.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0700347062347090936==" --===============0700347062347090936== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are there any precautions for upgrading an old Pentium-100 to an AMD-K6-III (or a Pentium-III) plus new motherboard? I'm thinking about upgrading the kernel to 2.2.5 with the CPU upgrade (now running 2.0.36). Questions... 1. Should I upgrade the kernel first or the CPU first? 2. Can I just drop in the new CPU? Are there any adjustments needed to run Linux? 3. RAM will be increased to 64M from 32M. Will the kernel automatically use the additional memory? Appreciate your replies! =3D=3D=3D Regards, Ted _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0700347062347090936==-- From hmf@softhome.net Mon Apr 19 22:35:35 1999 From: hmf@softhome.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] overwriting gnome Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:35:35 -0500 Message-ID: <199904192143.OAA06031@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0290609140577049853==" --===============0290609140577049853== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey all This filesystem's a bear. I'm downloading all the gnome 1.01 rpms. Will the= se rpms overwrite any files which might=20 be "in the way?" If so, good. I mangled the gnome I had while playing... I want to get rid of programs that I did not use yast or rpms to install, and= I probably put them in weird places. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0290609140577049853==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 19 22:55:05 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] upgrading CPU Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:55:05 +0200 Message-ID: <371BB449.E89B48FC@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <19990419222656.22238.rocketmail@web608.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2187029765332237502==" --===============2187029765332237502== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable T Kam wrote: > 1. Should I upgrade the kernel first or the CPU first? CPU first. An old kernel always works new CPUs. Otherway round it may work, but you can't be sure. =20 > 2. Can I just drop in the new CPU? Are there any adjustments needed > to run Linux? To take full advantage of advanced Hardware recompile kernel. =20 > 3. RAM will be increased to 64M from 32M. Will the kernel > automatically use the additional memory? Certainly --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2187029765332237502==-- From basin@basin.com Mon Apr 19 22:55:55 1999 From: basin@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] overwriting gnome Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:55:55 -0700 Message-ID: <19990419155552.A2519@basin.com> In-Reply-To: <199904192143.OAA06031@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2862411729844053613==" --===============2862411729844053613== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting tf on Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 05:35:35PM -0500 >=20 > Hey all >=20 > This filesystem's a bear. I'm downloading all the gnome 1.01 rpms. Will t= hese rpms overwrite any files which might=20 > be "in the way?" If so, good. I mangled the gnome I had while playing... >=20 > I want to get rid of programs that I did not use yast or rpms to install, a= nd I probably put them in weird places. >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> I would tread carefully on overwriting stuff. GNOME is rather mangled in program dependencies and I have found that removing something often has rather disastrous effects on the rest. I have not quite decided on a strategy yet for pulling the earlier rpms but I am definitely not going to overwrite stuff. I tried that last time and gnome and glib/gtk got rather dirty. I would carefully plan on how to remove what you have done previously. GNOME is quite nice but the level of dependency is quite heavy. One thing noted on this list is that the programs that were done previously had different names and that this did not bode well with the rpms that suse has done.=20 This makes the problems a lot more complex since we cannot use the programs themselves but have to decide whether to abandon the functioning or not-functioning gnome we already have. Just a cautionary note. --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com -------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2862411729844053613==-- From basin@basin.com Mon Apr 19 23:01:46 1999 From: basin@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] wvdial falure as user , works only as root Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:01:46 -0700 Message-ID: <19990419160146.A2542@basin.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990419142046.0107af98@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0348301321801405620==" --===============0348301321801405620== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Samy Elashmawy on Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 02:20:46PM +0000 > Were you reffering to yast over removing resolv.conf or the access denied > error when wvdial trys to access the modem ?? YAST has a setting which causes it to rewrite your resolv.conf file. If you want to hand tune this file, turn the option off in rc.config or yast. >=20 > >=20 > > > >--=20 > >Michael Perry > >mperry(a)basin.com > >---------------------- > > > >-- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > >archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > > > --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com -------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0348301321801405620==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Tue Apr 20 00:07:33 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Why kppp hangs on "Expecting OK" with the new 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 kernels !?!? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:07:33 -0500 Message-ID: <371BC545.9EF34F31@navix.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0103544470324799220==" --===============0103544470324799220== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable alex(a)daniloff.com wrote: >=20 > Hello SuSE folks. Sorry I posted this question before but I didn't get > an answer which solved my problem with kppp. I downloaded and compiled > 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 kernels. I included all nessesary features as PPP, SLIP > and so on. Exactly the same features I compiled into my original kernel > 2.0.36 came with my SuSE 6.0 distro. When I use kppp for dial up with > 2.2.5 or 2.2.6 kernel I can see only "Expecting OK" in the terminal > window and nothing is happening after that. When I use kppp with 2.0.36 > kernel it is perfectly dialing up and establishing connection with the > same setting in etc/ppp, etc/suseppp, etc/rc.config and so on. I use > internal ISA US Robotics jumpered real modem on COM2. Evidently it's not > a modem related problem. May be I should update or reinstall some > libraries for the new kernels? Could somebody point me where is a > problem? May be someone had this problem also? Any help is gladly > appreciated. Thank you in advance Alex. Perhaps your modem is still pointing to /dev/cau0 instead of /dev/ttyS0, or what ever comm port you are using. --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0103544470324799220==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 20 00:28:53 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Linux creator: We will crush Microsoft Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:28:53 -0400 Message-ID: <371BCA45.2905DE4E@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9217012366222788229==" --===============9217012366222788229== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.news.com/News/Item/0= ,4,35328,00.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9217012366222788229==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 20 00:35:37 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Gates, Torvalds square off Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:35:37 -0400 Message-ID: <371BCBD9.A7FB0C7D@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8448764561472604637==" --===============8448764561472604637== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.msnbc.com/news/260715.asp> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8448764561472604637==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 20 01:20:05 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Modules in 2.2 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:20:05 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6492201447715237033==" --===============6492201447715237033== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've just upgraded my machine to 2.2.6. 2.2 kernels are supposed to use kmod, but I can't get any modules to load on demand. I upgraded my modutils, but it still doesn't work. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6492201447715237033==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Tue Apr 20 02:00:44 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast! Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:00:44 -0500 Message-ID: <371BDFCC.D3521FE9@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <371B871B.F0BC1ABF@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7579986139080633717==" --===============7579986139080633717== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Juergen, I agree with your suggestions, accept for the part about turbo mode on a pentium, even one as old as a 60 mhz..they didn't work like that..turbo mode went out with the 486, it was left on the cases as a legacy item. :) > 1st: are you sure you use "turbo mode" ? do you have a checking program > that tells you the speed of your cpu?? (as a rough guide, you can use > the BOGOMIPS statement on bootup. If you close / open jumpers, tune for > maximum. Do not belive in a glowing turbo led or speed display. >=20 --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7579986139080633717==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Tue Apr 20 02:01:54 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Modules in 2.2 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 04:01:54 +0200 Message-ID: <371BE012.809946F8@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5260848464533692087==" --===============5260848464533692087== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ewan Dunbar wrote: >=20 > I've just upgraded my machine to 2.2.6. 2.2 kernels are supposed to use > kmod, but I can't get any modules to load on demand. I upgraded my > modutils, but it still doesn't work. What about some real information? Did you 'enable Loadable module support' and 'Kernel module loader' when you compiled your kernel? Which modules did you build with the kernel? How do you know that _what_ doesn't work?=20 Error messages? /var/log/messages? Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5260848464533692087==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 20 02:33:16 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Modules in 2.2 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:33:16 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <371BE012.809946F8@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6793968456964820706==" --===============6793968456964820706== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, hhv wrote: >=20 > Ewan Dunbar wrote: > >=20 > > I've just upgraded my machine to 2.2.6. 2.2 kernels are supposed to use > > kmod, but I can't get any modules to load on demand. I upgraded my > > modutils, but it still doesn't work. >=20 > What about some real information? >=20 > Did you 'enable Loadable module support' and 'Kernel module loader' > when you compiled your kernel? >=20 > Which modules did you build with the kernel? >=20 > How do you know that _what_ doesn't work?=20 >=20 > Error messages? /var/log/messages? No error messages -- modules load ok. They just don't load on demand, although I enabled kmod in the kernel. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6793968456964820706==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Tue Apr 20 03:10:20 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel Changes Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 05:10:20 +0200 Message-ID: <371BF01C.B5E42F87@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <3178480D.FA95C3AD@term.star.com.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1414251841912483022==" --===============1414251841912483022== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable aaa wrote: >=20 > I want to know what new features in kernels 2.2.6 > than 2.0.36? http://edge.linuxhq.com/cha= ngelist.cgi?show=3D2.2>. --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1414251841912483022==-- From dlaude@execpc.com Tue Apr 20 03:29:08 1999 From: dlaude@execpc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] (no subject) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:29:08 -0500 Message-ID: <199904200329.WAA07325@mailgw02.execpc.com> In-Reply-To: <3178480D.FA95C3AD@term.star.com.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9216192640397572088==" --===============9216192640397572088== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---Reply to mail from aaa >=20 > I want to know what new features in kernels 2.2.6 > than 2.0.36? Humm, why don't you just download the latest kernel and read the changelog / documentation? ;) Dana --=20 Poof! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9216192640397572088==-- From sudheer@easi.soft.net Tue Apr 20 04:08:07 1999 From: sudheer@easi.soft.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] making statically linked binaries Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:38:07 +0530 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99041913281600.05958@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6447663430302696647==" --===============6447663430302696647== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Linking can be dynamic or static. By default gcc compiler makes dynamically linked executables.That does mean it will be using shared Libraries during run time.Usually the libraries reside within /usr/lib or /lib. In case of static linking ,it prevents linking with shared libraries. but this will blow up the size of exe.though its faster to load. you can find more information on this in man pages of gcc. you can make a statically linked binary with option "-static". =20 also the man pages of "ld" giving options for static and dynamic linking. If you have an archieve say librimez.a and also a shared object library librimez.so.,then by default the compiler will link to *.so files.ie dynamically linked binary. you can create shared object library with the "-shared" option in gcc. Hope this may be helpful. sudheer On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, rimez wrote: >=20 > Does anyone know where I can find info on making statically linked binaries? > thanks, > rimez > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6447663430302696647==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Tue Apr 20 04:36:15 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] 64-bit GCC ? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:36:15 -0400 Message-ID: <371C043F.6BEEB1F0@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0287438974380575291==" --===============0287438974380575291== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I asked a few days ago if anybody knows of an effort to make GCC able to compile 64-bit executables. I didn't hear an answer. I am asking this question again because of something I just read by Linus in _Open Sources_:*Voices from the Open Source Revolution* http://search.borders.com/fcgi-bin/db2www/search/search.d2w/Detail= s?>&mediaType=3DBook&prodID=3D51273228 Basically he said the ability of Linux to port to 64-bit chips is directly dependent on the ability of GCC to compile for 64-bit systems. Does anybody know? The book is, BTW, quite an interesting read so far. Steve -- http:/= /www.winehq.com> | I think. http://www= .suse.com> | I think I am. http://www.k= de.org> | Therefore I am. ht= tp://samba.anu.edu.au> | I think? - Moody Blues -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0287438974380575291==-- From Drow@Blazenet.net Tue Apr 20 04:49:05 1999 From: Drow@Blazenet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Why kppp hangs on "Expecting OK" with the new 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 kernels !?!? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:49:05 -0400 Message-ID: <371C0741.C14E48DB@Blazenet.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5381763888207556680==" --===============5381763888207556680== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable alex(a)daniloff.com wrote: >=20 > 2.0.36 came with my SuSE 6.0 distro. When I use kppp for dial up with > 2.2.5 or 2.2.6 kernel I can see only "Expecting OK" in the terminal > window and nothing is happening after that. When I use kppp with 2.0.36 > kernel it is perfectly dialing up and establishing connection with the > same setting in etc/ppp, etc/suseppp, etc/rc.config and so on. I use > internal ISA US Robotics jumpered real modem on COM2. Evidently it's not > a modem related problem. I experienced this same problem using suseppp. It is like the timing is off for the send/expect sequences or something. It took a lot fooling around to find a chat sequence of commands that actually seem to sync correctly and dial my isp. Here is a copy of my files, if you would like to try suseppp. I'd say it dials correctly about 950f the time.=20 Note: if you use pap or chap you have to be root to bring up ppp, so I use terminal. You can see what is happening while you try to connect by doing a tail -f of /var/log/messages. /etc/suseppp/generic.chat: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D TIMEOUT 45 ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO DIALTONE" ABORT ERROR "" +++AT&FZ\d\d\d OK ATL1DT*70, CONNECT "" ogin: "" word: "" /etc/suseppp/generic.options: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D /dev/modem 115200 crtscts lock noipdefault defaultroute mru 6184 mtu 1064 deflate 15,15 debug /usr/local/bin/ppp-on: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D /etc/suseppp/scripts/ppp-up generic debug /usr/local/bin/ppp-off: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D /etc/suseppp/scripts/ppp-down --=20 Aduanne Carter Drow(a)Blazenet.net / TrueDrow(a)Netscape.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5381763888207556680==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 20 04:57:09 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PC World News: Linux Hits the Desktop Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:57:09 -0400 Message-ID: <371C0925.32F535C1@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7780645405745132936==" --===============7780645405745132936== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.pcworld.com/cg= i-bin/pcwtoday?ID=3D10546> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7780645405745132936==-- From ke@suse.de Tue Apr 20 07:33:42 1999 From: ke@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Postgress configure/setup from suse distro HOW ?? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:33:42 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990417084435.0111f1d8@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3801879453171049553==" --===============3801879453171049553== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Samy Elashmawy writes: | >After installing the packages run | > | > rcpostgres start | =20 | Do you need to set this up elswhere to autamaticly start each time you bo= ot | up ?? It's not necessary. At boottime starting PostgreSQL is controlled by the variable START_POSTGRES in /etc/rc.config. | >Not need to do this; you'll find profile fragments at the above | >mentioned place, that are source by /etc/profile | =20 | I am not sure what you mean here . Please, have a look at /etc/profile.d/postgres.sh -- simply don't worry about it ;) | I fired up pgaccess , and was not able to find the sample data from | pg_datab ?=20 pg_datab only contains the templates. First create your own database (as said in the previous mail) and then try to access your own DB with pgaccess. | You mention other interfaces. What other interfaces are there besides | pgaccess ?? a command line tool (psql) and others -- please have a look at the mentioned packages (pg_*). --=20 Karl Eichwalder -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3801879453171049553==-- From ke@suse.de Tue Apr 20 07:56:21 1999 From: ke@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] GNOME 1.0.x RPMs for SuSE 6 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:56:21 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <371B79AB.672A6CD5@neuronet.pitt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4368310608032960336==" --===============4368310608032960336== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Rafael E. Herrera" writes: Thanks for your detailed report (it's a good one!); I'll try to improve the packages. The "core" should be updated this night. | These seem to be missing: | =20 | gnome-python-1.0.1.tar.gz Will appear as pygtk* and pygnome. | gnome-core-1.0.5.tar.gz By now, this package should be there (as gncore* an gncored*) | enlightenment-conf-0.15.tar.gz It's still missing, sigh... | gnome-pim-1.0.7.tar.gz Will appear as gnpim*. | I'm sure there must ba a reason why those versions were released at | the SuSE site and I congratulate SuSE for trying to keeping us with | up-to-date software. But after I installed the packages and running | X windows I couldn't find the control panel, you know, the bar with | the foot on it. If you've done the installation by hand (not via YaST), don't forget to run SuSEconfig (e.g., SuSE package don't use 0ost scripts to invoke "ldconfig"). Then try to invoke "panel" from an xterm. | How about some installation documentation? Yes, this has to be written at some point. Personal note: Even if there was done a lot of work by all the GNOME developers, I do consider this software _in part_ as "young" (also the SuSE packages, BTW). Most parts of the software are looking great and are pretty usable, of course. | One gets the best from gnome from it's interactions with the WM, how | about updating the Enlightenment and WindowMaker WMs? Yes, this should be done (an will happen); the intention to offer SuSE GNOME packages is to provide the "core" of GNOME (1.0.x); this way the user should be able to compile himself all these nice GTK/GNOME applications. --=20 Karl Eichwalder -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4368310608032960336==-- From kester@cwcom.net Tue Apr 20 10:23:10 1999 From: kester@cwcom.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] tar Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:23:10 +0100 Message-ID: <017801be8b37$ad715360$2b0d1280@kester> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] tar> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8701131468509083243==" --===============8701131468509083243== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or fire up Tk Desk and rightclick on the file and choose 'extract...' . Very quick! k. -----: :try "tar -xvzf file.tar.gz" :or "tar -xvzf file.tgz" <-- tarred and zipped file : :Terry : : :Beast/2 wrote: : :> I don't know how to extract from *.q file (with zcat), but :> usualy I get for ex. file.tar.gz and do 2 commands : :> gzip -d file.tar.gz :> tar xvf file.tar :> This works fine any time. 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After going into X lynx could not find URLs (i.e. I did startx whilst still connected via lynx) and Netscape couldn't either. I shut down X and re-dialed using wvdial.Error message "modem not responding". Bill -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0895345476311132226==-- From geoff@gnewson.freeserve.co.uk Tue Apr 20 13:06:56 1999 From: geoff@gnewson.freeserve.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LaTex Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:06:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000501be8b2e$e7d672a0$aa5c883e@q3c5t6> In-Reply-To: <6z7lr8lxgx.fsf@iago.nac.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0720182104805178177==" --===============0720182104805178177== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Gray > > "Geoff Newson" writes: > [snip] > > > > When I type the command: latex mydoc.tex > > I get the error message: I can't find default format file! > > I remebered seeing some FAQ or something that said the answer to this was to > > run texconfig init and this would generate the missing format files. It > > didn't. > > If you can help I would appreciate it. > > 1) It sounds as if your installation of teTeX has gotten clobbered > somehow --- as a first step I would suggest using rpm to verify your > installation of teTeX: > > rpm -V tetex > > This will compare the MD5 sums of all the installed files with what > should be there. If that discovers the problem just reinstall tetex I > would guess (reinstalling anyway is another option :-) > > 2) You did not perhaps install tetex on top of ntex? According to > "rpm -qi tetex": > > [snip] > Do NOT install this package together with ntex! > teTeX is NOT an upgrade or update for the ntex package!! > [end quote] > > This could easily screw up kpathsea when it tries to search for > things. > > 3) If you have tetex installed properly according to rpm -V (meaning > also no remnants of old TeX installations) and it still does not work > -- it could be that you have defined an environment variable that is > leading kpathsea to search in the wrong place or that you have a > ~/.tex file which is initialising something in the wrong way. > > > If none of these ideas work, send me a copy of a the smallest file > that fails to latex on your system and I will take a look at it. [snip] Thanks for the advice. rpm -V tetex just showed that the format files were missing. In the end I just uninstalled it and the reinstalled it. Things seem to be fine now. Geoff Newson -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0720182104805178177==-- From mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov Tue Apr 20 14:12:03 1999 From: mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] booting into a minicom session? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:12:03 -0400 Message-ID: <19990420101203.E2156@avatar.lsd.ornl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1128529275940916750==" --===============1128529275940916750== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable good day all ... i've got one pentium box, box A, with no cd/scsi/video/etc whose connections to the world are either the network or the serial port. the serial port is connected to another box, box B, and i can see box A's console output on box B via a minicom session. these boxen are running RH now and i want to do a suse install. when i boot box A off the suse 6 boot diskette, the console never shows up on the minicom session on box B. what am i doing wrong here ... thanks! --=20 -- michael -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1128529275940916750==-- From joshaugh@uk.oracle.com Tue Apr 20 14:17:22 1999 From: joshaugh@uk.oracle.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Installing SuSE (6) on a machine with no CDROM Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:17:22 +0000 Message-ID: <37258bc9.599795480@mailhost.uk.oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <372239f7.513314877@mailhost.uk.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2337803244236131275==" --===============2337803244236131275== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone suggest a way to install SuSE on a machine with not CD? It is on a network which has got a SuSE 6 Linux box on (with a CD). In the manual it says you can install from an FTP site or NFS. Will sharing my CD drive from my existing machine, over NFS work? What about when it needs to change CD? I assume to install from NFS or FTP you need images of all the CDs available and you won't be able to share a CD in this way? Jamie ___________________________________________________________________________=20 Jamie O'Shaughnessy e-mail: joshaugh(a)uk.oracle.com=20 Designer Impact Analysis Team phone : 0118 92 45052=20 ______________________________________________________ __ __ _ __ . __=20 Opinions are my own and not those of... (__)|-<= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2337803244236131275==-- From e.maryniak@pobox.com Tue Apr 20 14:32:22 1999 From: e.maryniak@pobox.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Bzip2 support (flag 'y') in Gnu tar in SuSE 6.1? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:32:22 +0200 Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990420163222.007f42c0@ip005> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6224487679634147552==" --===============6224487679634147552== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will the Gnu 'tar' released with SuSE 6.1 have support for bzip archives (often names like foobar.tar.bz2, compare to foobar.tar.gz)? So that you can like, extract etc. with commands like: tar ytvf foobar.tar.bz2 tar yxvf foobar.tar.bz2 Last time (december 1998) I check Gnu's tar, the 'y' flag still had to be put in with a patch from the bzip2 site. Eric Maryniak (fyi: here's my install log of how i built a bzip2 aware Gnu tar december 1998 (corrections are welcome, but it works for me a 100%), '+' is your prompt: Installed bzip2-0.9.0c and patch for Gnu tar 1.12 (reinstall). Bzip2 is far a better compressor than gzip, and is rapidly gaining popularity, url: http://www.muraroa.demon.co.uk/> Also reinstall Gnu tar 1.12 with a patch which adds the bzip `y' flag. 1. bzip2 + make The 4 compare tests must be ok. Install as follows: + mv bzip2 bzip2recover /usr/local/bin/. + mv bzip2.1 /usr/local/man/man1/. + ( cd /usr/local/bin && rm -f bunzip2 bzcat ) + ( cd /usr/local/bin; ln -s bzip2 bunzip2; ln -s bzip2 bzcat ) 2. Gnu tar 1.12 patch. Get the bzip patch for Gnu tar 1.12: http://www.muraroa.demon.co= .uk/gnutarpatch.txt> following instructions "4. Using bzip2 with tar" from h= ttp://www.best.com/~dfetter/Bzip2-HOWTO/Bzip2-HOWTO-4.html> and given here. Unpack Gnu tar-1.12 source and then: + cd tar-1.12/src + patch < ../../gnutarpatch.txt + cd .. + ./configure && make && make install Flag for bzip is always `y' where you would use `x' for gzip: tar ycvf foo-4.2.tar.bz2 foo-4.2 (create a bzip-ped tar file) tar yxvf foo-4.2.tar.bz2 (extract a bzip-ped tar file) ) -- Eric Maryniak Home page: http://pobox.com/~e.maryniak/> Netherlands Institute for Scientific Information Services (NIWI) Tel/Fax: +31 20 4628650/6685079. Internet: http://www.niwi.knaw.nl/> Isn't air travel wonderful? Breakfast in London, dinner in New York, luggage in Brazil. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6224487679634147552==-- From DAHende3@VT.Edu Tue Apr 20 15:12:09 1999 From: DAHende3@VT.Edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Star Office after upgrade from 5.3 => 6.0 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:12:09 -0400 Message-ID: <371C9949.37FA9A7D@VT.Edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0180236373361712222==" --===============0180236373361712222== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List Members: I upgraded from SuSE 5.3 to 6.0 last Thursday over the net and following the upgrade, my installation of StarOffice will no longer work and gives me the following errors: david(a)dhenderson:~ > soffice& [1] 962 david(a)dhenderson:~ > dirname: error in loading shared libraries : undefined symbol: __register_frame_info basename: error in loading shared libraries : undefined symbol: __register_frame_info uname: error in loading shared libraries : undefined symbol: __register_frame_info /home/david/Office50/bin/soffice: //bin/.bin: No such file or directory /home/david/Office50/bin/soffice: exec: //bin/.bin: cannot execute: No such file or directory [1]+ Exit 126 soffice david(a)dhenderson:~ > I need to get StarOffice working again in order to finish my PhD proposal pronto. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have already reinstalled the compatability shlibs (shlibs5) from SuSE. Thanks in advance for the help!! Dave H -- _ _| ~~. David Henderson \, _} DHenders(a)VT.Edu \( Gig 'em Aggies! '93 Currently at: Interdepartmental Genetics Program 2010 Litton Reaves Hall Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540)231-4773 (540)231-5014 DHenders(a)VT.Edu http://www.dasc.vt.edu/hender= son/dhenderson.html>

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From cworley@altatech.com Tue Apr 20 15:52:11 1999
From: cworley@altatech.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fax
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:52:11 -0700
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Tobias Schaefer wrote:
> I want to install an Linux-Faxserver in a Win9x LAN which only sends
> faxes.
> Which software do I need to install? No frontend is needed since the
> Linux-Server only serves as a server.
> How do get the Win9x-Computers to ask for the fax Number?
See:

http://www.itex.co.za/mgetty/index.html>

Chris

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From nick.leroy@norland.com Tue Apr 20 15:55:25 1999
From: nick.leroy@norland.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] making statically linked binaries
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:55:25 -0500
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On Apr 19,  1:25pm, rimez wrote:
> Subject: [SuSE Linux] making statically linked binaries
>
> Does anyone know where I can find info on making statically linked binaries?
> thanks,
> rimez

I'm not sure if you already got a reply to this, but this is a simple
one.  Do a 'man ld' to find the '-Bstatic' ld option will cause it to
link statically.  If the linking is being done directly through ld, just
add -Bstatic to the start of your link command.

If gcc is the front-end being used to do the link, then you need to add
-Wl,-Bstatic to get gcc to pass the option to the linker.  'man gcc' should
give you more info on this.

Hope this helps

-Nick


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From magnum@cyberenet.net Tue Apr 20 18:22:47 1999
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hello all,

I have NT4 and linux kernel 2.2.6 setup in a peer to peer network with
linux being 192.168.1.1 and NT being 192.168.1.2 can anyone tell me how to
access the Internet from my linux box with NT4 being the dial-up server?

thanks MagnuM


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From ttwkam@yahoo.com Tue Apr 20 18:32:40 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] upgrading from 2.0.36 to 2.2.5
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:32:40 -0700
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Thanks for all the suggestions for upgrading the kernel.  I'm running
into problems.

I followed all the steps from the README file that comes with the
source.  On booting 2.2.5 for the 1st time, the machine hangs on
initializing the PARPOLL module; it stuck on polling lp0.  There are no
error messages on the boot screen.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated.

I'm still able to boot from my 2.0.36 boot floppy.  I'm glad that I
made one.
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From DAHende3@VT.Edu Tue Apr 20 18:53:31 1999
From: DAHende3@VT.Edu
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Star Office after upgrade from 5.3 => 6.0
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:53:31 -0400
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List Members:

I upgraded from SuSE 5.3 to 6.0 last Thursday over the net and following

the upgrade, my installation of StarOffice will no longer work and gives

me the following errors:

david(a)dhenderson:~ > soffice&
[1] 962
david(a)dhenderson:~ > dirname: error in loading shared libraries
: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info
basename: error in loading shared libraries
: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info
uname: error in loading shared libraries
: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info
/home/david/Office50/bin/soffice: //bin/.bin: No such file or directory
/home/david/Office50/bin/soffice: exec: //bin/.bin: cannot execute: No
such file or directory

[1]+  Exit 126                soffice
david(a)dhenderson:~ >

I need to get StarOffice working again in order to finish my PhD
proposal pronto.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  I have
already reinstalled the compatability shlibs (shlibs5) from SuSE.
Thanks in advance for the help!!

Dave H


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From jboonen@worldonline.nl Tue Apr 20 18:56:34 1999
From: jboonen@worldonline.nl
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Something very interresting for electronics fans
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:56:34 +0200
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Dear all,

I found on the site of http://www.cadsoft.de/> (Eagle PCB software). That
they need linux beta software testers. I have sent an application in and
i now may test it.

So if other people who are into electronics and/or PCB design can do the
same. I have just installed the program. It looks very nice. I haven't
tested it yet.

Regards,

Joop Boonen.


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From edg@euronet.nl Tue Apr 20 19:05:01 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] repost please who can help
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Hi, who has some spare time to help me with a few questions i can't
get solved..

I am installing SuSe linux 5.3 and a isdn card type teles 16.0

The isdncard is working but a few things are not:

I have a static ip adres from my provider this ip is as in most cases
different from the ip adres i use for the internal net. My internal ip
for eth0 is 192.168.1.1 This machine is corner-1
(corner-1.tri-angle.demon.nl)

The domain i have got from my internet provider is tri-angle.demon.nl
and a different ip adres 212.238.105.11

So we i have a different internal network and a internal system with
an different name. But that should not be a problem i think it should
be a matter of configuration of linus (i hope :-))

The system is not mentioned to be permanent on line

What is the ip of my point-to-point partner in this case?=20
- is it the ipadress i got from my provider?=20
- is it the ipadress of the gateway of my provider?
- is the point to point partner something else and what should i fill
in? Those two i can't figure out in the manuals, both seem to work but
only one solution should be ok.
What do i fill in in the "ip adres of your machine" is it the
local ip in the 192.168.1.1 or the ip given by my provider?

The second problem:
I have once seen the system connected automaticly to the internet when
i started lynx but now it wont do that. i can force it by adding the
next line: route add netmask 0 gateway ippp0=20

Acording the manual the ISDN socket should be aware when a idsn line
is needed to be opened to connect to the internet and when i dont use
it for a while the line will be disconnected, the last part works, the
first only when i do some trick by the route statement.

Do i need masquerading or do i have to set a default route or an
nameserver? Do i need additional route statements or gateways?=20

The Third problem i have is that email send from my system is not send
by sendmail. It seems to do something that my domain for my provider
should be tri-angle.demon.nl but that the machine that is running
linux is named corner-1.tri-angle.demon.nl so i think i have to set
things a different way.=20

What to i set in or yast (prefered) or in the different control files?
Do i need named ? do i need an another sendmail m4 script ?=20

lots of questions, when it is al clear and running i will document it
dutch or englisch and make shure other suse users can use it in the
future.=20

Maybe this will trigger you to help me out :-)

Eelco
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From geoff@gnewson.freeserve.co.uk Tue Apr 20 19:15:54 1999
From: geoff@gnewson.freeserve.co.uk
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] urgent, can't print
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If anyone could help as soon as possible I w= ould=20 appreciate it. I have a university project I need to print.
Basically I can't print from linux. I could = two=20 days ago and now ..........
When I type "lpc status" everything shows it= is=20 enabled but no printer daemons are running.
When I try to print using lpr the print job = is=20 queued properly but the terminal doesn't display a prompt again, it just appe= ars=20 to hang.
If I try lpq it says that printing is disabl= ed, so=20 I tried "lpc enable all" and the terminal just 'thinks'.
At some point something I tried gave the mes= sage :-=20 no print server.
I assume this is the problem but I don't kno= w how=20 to sort it.
I wil gladly provide any information wanted = that=20 might help.
Please help me.
THANK YOU.
Geoff Newson ;-(
--===============8497867955935351684==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Tue Apr 20 19:47:09 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 64-bit GCC ? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:47:09 -0700 Message-ID: <371CD9BD.96F8CC51@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <371C043F.6BEEB1F0@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7972845066952346591==" --===============7972845066952346591== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Steven T. Hatton" wrote: >=20 > I asked a few days ago if anybody knows of an effort to make GCC able to > compile 64-bit executables. I didn't hear an answer. I am asking this > question again because of something I just read by Linus in _Open > Sources_:*Voices from the Open Source Revolution* >=20 >
http://search.borders.com/fcgi-bin/db2www/search/search.d2w/Deta= ils?>&mediaType=3DBook&prodID=3D51273228 >=20 > Basically he said the ability of Linux to port to 64-bit chips is > directly dependent on the ability of GCC to compile for 64-bit systems. >=20 > Does anybody know? Actually, I did answer a few days ago. Linux is available for Alpha, which is 64-bit, so gcc can produce 64-bit binaries. How it does that is another question, because on the site it says: "GCC can generate a.out, COFF, ELF, & OSF-Rose files when used with a suitable assembler," which seems to indicate that it depends on the assembler used with it. Head over to http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/= gcc.html> and read up. --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * =20 Was there no communication in this car. Had we deteriorated to =20 the level of dumb beasts? * * -Hunter S. Thompson * =20 * * * * * -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7972845066952346591==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Tue Apr 20 19:52:50 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Bzip2 support (flag 'y') in Gnu tar in SuSE 6.1? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:52:50 -0700 Message-ID: <371CDB12.E67C3BA0@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990420163222.007f42c0@ip005> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3049060131990817194==" --===============3049060131990817194== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eric Maryniak wrote: >=20 > Will the Gnu 'tar' released with SuSE 6.1 have support for bzip archives > (often names like foobar.tar.bz2, compare to foobar.tar.gz)? > So that you can like, extract etc. with commands like: >=20 > tar ytvf foobar.tar.bz2 > tar yxvf foobar.tar.bz2 >=20 > Last time (december 1998) I check Gnu's tar, the 'y' flag still had to > be put in with a patch from the bzip2 site. Although it's more of a pain, you can do it thusly: tar xvf --use-compress-program=3Dbzip2 foo.tar.bz2 --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * =20 Was there no communication in this car. Had we deteriorated to =20 the level of dumb beasts? * * -Hunter S. Thompson * =20 * * * * * -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3049060131990817194==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Tue Apr 20 19:55:57 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Installing SuSE (6) on a machine with no CDROM Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:55:57 -0700 Message-ID: <371CDBCD.2895DAA6@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <37258bc9.599795480@mailhost.uk.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6628792127718280554==" --===============6628792127718280554== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jamie O'Shaughnessy wrote: >=20 > Can anyone suggest a way to install SuSE on a machine with not CD? It is on > a network which has got a SuSE 6 Linux box on (with a CD). In the manual it > says you can install from an FTP site or NFS. Will sharing my CD drive from > my existing machine, over NFS work? What about when it needs to change CD? > I assume to install from NFS or FTP you need images of all the CDs > available and you won't be able to share a CD in this way? The way I have been doing this is by ftp, using a valid user's name on the server. I mount the cdrom on the Linux machine, start the install with the floppy on the client, choose ftp, use my login on the server and type /cdrom for the install directory. Works very well. --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * =20 Was there no communication in this car. Had we deteriorated to =20 the level of dumb beasts? * * -Hunter S. Thompson * =20 * * * * * -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6628792127718280554==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Tue Apr 20 20:20:56 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Installing SuSE (6) on a machine with no CDROM] Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:20:56 +0200 Message-ID: <371CE1A8.F069073C@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Installing SuSE (6) on a machine with no CDROM]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0322880060429374676==" --===============0322880060429374676== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Jamie O'Shaughnessy wrote: > ... I think, the easiest way is to copy the first CD to your disk. This sufficient. You needn't install everything at once. The other CDs are only needed for special things like sources, Docs, Development, Demos etc. You could install those later, when you have your network up and running. Have a look into the readmes. I think there is some info on how to install on a machine without CDRom. You should simply install the base system. All other stuff can be done later. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- Um aus der Liste ausgetragen zu werden, eine Mail an majordomo(a)suse.com schicken, mit dem Text: unsubscribe suse-linux -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0322880060429374676==-- From gwhorn@globalnet.co.uk Tue Apr 20 20:25:21 1999 From: gwhorn@globalnet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How do you patch the kernel.. 2.2.5 --> 2.2.6? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:25:21 +0000 Message-ID: <371CE2B1.BD4AC28D@globalnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3718DE11.D3F2D4CB@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6854869901951695993==" --===============6854869901951695993== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I keep seeing on this list queries regarding how to patch the linux kernel. Surely the easiest method is that given on this list some time ago. Just obtain the patches, place in /usr/src/linux/scripts and invoke the program patch-kernel (which lives there) without any parameters. This program handles several types of compression and will progressively apply several patches in the correct order. See the program script for more info. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6854869901951695993==-- From rcoprea@home.ro Tue Apr 20 20:28:04 1999 From: rcoprea@home.ro To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Sound with ESS Maestro 2 PCI Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:28:04 +0300 Message-ID: <99042023342200.00230@sky> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1955388114205043939==" --===============1955388114205043939== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. I was wondering if anyone knows how I could install my sound card under SuSE Linux 6.0, kernel 2.2.2. The sound card is an AOpen AW300 with ESS Maestro 2 = PCI chipset. Have anyone had such a souncard before? (it's not that new and still= I can't make it work). It's too pitty that my copmuter is as silent as a tomb..= :) I am thankful for any advice, no matter how small on your part. Thank you. Razvan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1955388114205043939==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Tue Apr 20 20:53:42 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Bzip2 support (flag 'y') in Gnu tar in SuSE 6.1? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:53:42 +0200 Message-ID: <371CE956.680F68C7@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990420163222.007f42c0@ip005> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7997644370128896348==" --===============7997644370128896348== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eric Maryniak wrote: >=20 > Flag for bzip is always `y' where you would use `x' for gzip: 'x' is for 'extract' in general, whereas 'z' uses gzip as filter and 'y', as you stated, uses bzip2 Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7997644370128896348==-- From emarch@enteract.com Tue Apr 20 21:01:16 1999 From: emarch@enteract.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Star Office after upgrade from 5.3 => 6.0 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:01:16 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <371C9949.37FA9A7D@VT.Edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8902873825859871694==" --===============8902873825859871694== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8902873825859871694==-- From ttwkam@yahoo.com Tue Apr 20 21:43:20 1999 From: ttwkam@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] problem upgrading to 2.2.5 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:43:20 -0700 Message-ID: <19990420214320.7656.rocketmail@web606.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2494983909485957672==" --===============2494983909485957672== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for all the suggestions for upgrading kernel from 2.0.36 to 2.2.5. I ran into some problems. I've followed your suggestions and the instructions in the README file that comes with the source distribution, then compiled and installed it. However, when I started it up, the system hung on the PARPOLL module polling lp0 port. I am able to boot the old kernel using the boot floppy I made before the upgrade. Any help is appreciated. =3D=3D=3D Regards, Ted _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2494983909485957672==-- From wybo@servalys.hobby.nl Tue Apr 20 21:46:14 1999 From: wybo@servalys.hobby.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] how to switch apsfilter settings? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:46:14 +0200 Message-ID: <199904202146.XAA07508@servalys.hobby.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0278467498749105714==" --===============0278467498749105714== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 I like apsfilter and have set FEATURE=3D2. But sometimes I would like to temporarily set it to 1l, without actually changing apsfilterrc. Is there a way to do that via a lpr-parameter or an environment variable or otherwise?=20 --=20 Hartelijke groet, Wybo -- __Servalys Analytical Chemistry Services__ Wybo H. Dekker wybo(a)servalys.hobby.nl Deilsedijk 60 www.hobby.nl/~servalys 4158 CH Deil tel +31-345-652164 =20 The Netherlands fax +31-345-652383 =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0278467498749105714==-- From tux@datapro.co.za Tue Apr 20 22:29:13 1999 From: tux@datapro.co.za To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast! Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:29:13 +0200 Message-ID: <19990421002913.D804@datapro.co.za> In-Reply-To: <371BDFCC.D3521FE9@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8735996813790750860==" --===============8735996813790750860== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 09:00:44PM -0500, Ben Rosenberg wrote: > a pentium, even one as old as a 60 mhz..they didn't work like > that..turbo mode went out with the 486, it was left on the cases as a > legacy item. :) I'm not so sure of that. The other day someone was asking about bogomips on the machines of another list's members. I checked mine and was surprised to see it only at 39. The bogomips howto suggests a P133 should get a higher speed than this. I had also always believed that turbo was obsolete but tried turning it on. I forgot about checking it afterwards until I saw your message. When I checked now the bogomips rating is 53.25, so the turbo appears to have made a significant difference. Or is it normal for the bogomips to vary so much on the same processor? --=20 Steve Crane stevec(a)netlane.com http://www.datapro.co.za/~stevec> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8735996813790750860==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 20 22:53:25 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Linux hamstrung by lack of standards? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:53:25 -0400 Message-ID: <371D0565.DBC2319A@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6554780965658722934==" --===============6554780965658722934== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable htt= p://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2244590,00.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6554780965658722934==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 20 23:47:23 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast! Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:47:23 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990421002913.D804@datapro.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5842596976858718257==" --===============5842596976858718257== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Steve Crane wrote: >=20 > On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 09:00:44PM -0500, Ben Rosenberg wrote: >=20 > > a pentium, even one as old as a 60 mhz..they didn't work like > > that..turbo mode went out with the 486, it was left on the cases as a > > legacy item. :) >=20 > I'm not so sure of that. The other day someone was asking about > bogomips on the machines of another list's members. >=20 > I checked mine and was surprised to see it only at 39. The bogomips > howto suggests a P133 should get a higher speed than this. I had also > always believed that turbo was obsolete but tried turning it on. I > forgot about checking it afterwards until I saw your message. >=20 > When I checked now the bogomips rating is 53.25, so the turbo appears to > have made a significant difference. Or is it normal for the bogomips to > vary so much on the same processor? Nope. Must've been the turbo. I suppose I can gloat about this machine now that I realise how fast it is, comparatively. 49.87 bogomips is pretty good for a 486. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5842596976858718257==-- From rommel@esoterica.pt Wed Apr 21 01:11:25 1999 From: rommel@esoterica.pt To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Epson Stylus Color 300 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:11:25 +0100 Message-ID: <371D25BD.177ABC25@esoterica.pt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2711328728520356511==" --===============2711328728520356511== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well people I have a problem in getting my Epson running, I know it is a quite old printer but I like it... Can I use other server for it ?? Wich one ??? Thx... PS: yeaps and I have support for Paralel Ports in my kernel ;)) Nelson Marques -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2711328728520356511==-- From dno@blueskyweb.com Wed Apr 21 01:51:22 1999 From: dno@blueskyweb.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:51:22 -0400 Message-ID: <00ac01be8b99$75ad4760$a382a6d1@dnohomepc> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0627546145797368764==" --===============0627546145797368764== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List Members, It may annoy others but this is my only way onto the internet. When I purchased my system, it only came with a winmodem. Also, I like to have the ability to print my email but having a hp 722c, I am not able to print in Linux. If I could use my winmodem and winprinter in Linux, I would be in utopia, but I have no choice but to continue to use windoz for email. I will try to stay on the sidelines and keep out of your way. Dan. -----Original Message----- From: Ben Rosenberg To: Dan Olszewski Cc: SUSE Mailing List Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet >Hello all, > > I was wanting an option from others on this list. Is anyone else >annoyed with people using Outlook Express to post to this list? I >produces this annoying white border around the message and sometimes >duel posts to the list. I was just wondering if this annoys anyone else >but me..and also it makes the test extremely smaller then most other >mailers..*shrug* just wondering. > >laters, >-- >Ben Rosenberg >mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net >"Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0627546145797368764==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Wed Apr 21 01:53:04 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Video question.... Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:53:04 -0400 Message-ID: <371D2F80.265C19EA@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1005775974652875762==" --===============1005775974652875762== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone know if the ATI Xpert(a)Play 98 PCI card is presently suppored or if it will be in 6.1.....Lenz? Thanks, Fred -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1005775974652875762==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Wed Apr 21 02:23:07 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:23:07 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00ac01be8b99$75ad4760$a382a6d1@dnohomepc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0307867687178143254==" --===============0307867687178143254== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Olszewski wrote: >=20 > List Members, >=20 > It may annoy others but this is my only way onto the internet. When I > purchased my system, it only came with a winmodem. Also, I like to have the > ability to print my email but having a hp 722c, I am not able to print in > Linux. >=20 > If I could use my winmodem and winprinter in Linux, I would be in utopia, > but I have no choice but to continue to use windoz for email. >=20 > I will try to stay on the sidelines and keep out of your way. I've never heard of a WinPrinter. But maybe there is such a thing. Can't you turn off those misfeatures of Outlook Express, though? ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0307867687178143254==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Wed Apr 21 02:34:29 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:34:29 -0500 Message-ID: <371D3935.47FE2A3D@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <00ac01be8b99$75ad4760$a382a6d1@dnohomepc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1195026261054394790==" --===============1195026261054394790== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan, Oh get over it, we were talking about html mail producted from Outlook Express and other programs. Yours did not have that annoying white boarder, nor did it make the text so small it was unreadable. We were not digging on " Your " choice in mailer or whether you had a choice in mailers. We simply find it annoying that people post mail to a list in a format that is annoying to read. Formatted text and other such annoying things are fine if your mailer is set up for it, but if it's not..it becomes a pain. Windows mailers just seem to default to these annoy preferences. Heck, Netscape for Unix defaults to HTML mail. I turn it off. Use whatever you like, I for one don't really care...just so that when people who use their software make it so everyone can read it, and enjoy the information exchanged. just my 0.02 =20 > List Members, >=20 > It may annoy others but this is my only way onto the internet. When I > purchased my system, it only came with a winmodem. Also, I like to have the > ability to print my email but having a hp 722c, I am not able to print in > Linux. >=20 > If I could use my winmodem and winprinter in Linux, I would be in utopia, > but I have no choice but to continue to use windoz for email. >=20 > I will try to stay on the sidelines and keep out of your way. >=20 > Dan. -- =20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1195026261054394790==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Wed Apr 21 02:46:05 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Video question.... Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:46:05 -0500 Message-ID: <371D3BED.AD2EEE03@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <371D2F80.265C19EA@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3180534989095791137==" --===============3180534989095791137== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fred, This card is support in Solaris X86 7 and if it supports this card .. XFree86 I would think does as well, for Solaris is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay lacking in video drivers..*laugh* >=20 > Anyone know if the ATI Xpert(a)Play 98 PCI card is presently suppored or if= it > will be in 6.1.....Lenz? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Fred --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3180534989095791137==-- From dno@blueskyweb.com Wed Apr 21 02:52:09 1999 From: dno@blueskyweb.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:52:09 -0400 Message-ID: <001c01be8ba1$f3af4ca0$a382a6d1@dnohomepc> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7554524183552081977==" --===============7554524183552081977== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whats strange is that I never changed my default in Outlook Express. It has always been set to straight text. What I did see in my setup is that when I replied to the first email, Express what set up to reply in the same text as the original text. That is no longer the case. As far as my winprinter, hp722c, I just found out a few days ago that I am not going to be able to print to it. This is where my frustration is comming from since I also had never heard of a parallel printer that was windoz only. Dan. -----Original Message----- From: Ewan Dunbar To: Dan Olszewski Cc: SUSE Mailing List Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet > >On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Olszewski wrote: > >> >> List Members, >> >> It may annoy others but this is my only way onto the internet. When I >> purchased my system, it only came with a winmodem. Also, I like to have the >> ability to print my email but having a hp 722c, I am not able to print in >> Linux. >> >> If I could use my winmodem and winprinter in Linux, I would be in utopia, >> but I have no choice but to continue to use windoz for email. >> >> I will try to stay on the sidelines and keep out of your way. > >I've never heard of a WinPrinter. But maybe there is such a thing. >Can't you turn off those misfeatures of Outlook Express, though? > >------------------------------------------------ >Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com >------------------------------------------------ >Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at >http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.ht= ml> >------------------------------------------------ > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7554524183552081977==-- From dno@blueskyweb.com Wed Apr 21 02:55:52 1999 From: dno@blueskyweb.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:55:52 -0400 Message-ID: <003f01be8ba2$786faca0$a382a6d1@dnohomepc> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0708393006310665711==" --===============0708393006310665711== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The reason I jumped on this is I though the email was directed at me since I was the only one listed on the To: line. No offence taken. Just frustrated that I can't get my hardware to run under Linux. Although it's not Linux's fault, it my modem and printer manufacturers faults. Dan. -----Original Message----- From: Ben Rosenberg To: Dan Olszewski Cc: SUSE Mailing List Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet >Dan, > > Oh get over it, we were talking about html mail producted from Outlook >Express and other programs. Yours did not have that annoying white >boarder, nor did it make the text so small it was unreadable. We were >not digging on " Your " choice in mailer or whether you had a choice in >mailers. We simply find it annoying that people post mail to a list in a >format that is annoying to read. Formatted text and other such annoying >things are fine if your mailer is set up for it, but if it's not..it >becomes a pain. Windows mailers just seem to default to these annoy >preferences. Heck, Netscape for Unix defaults to HTML mail. I turn it >off. Use whatever you like, I for one don't really care...just so that >when people who use their software make it so everyone can read it, and >enjoy the information exchanged. > >just my 0.02 > >> List Members, >> >> It may annoy others but this is my only way onto the internet. When I >> purchased my system, it only came with a winmodem. Also, I like to have the >> ability to print my email but having a hp 722c, I am not able to print in >> Linux. >> >> If I could use my winmodem and winprinter in Linux, I would be in utopia, >> but I have no choice but to continue to use windoz for email. >> >> I will try to stay on the sidelines and keep out of your way. >> >> Dan. > >-- > >Ben Rosenberg >mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net >"Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0708393006310665711==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Wed Apr 21 03:04:52 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:04:52 -0500 Message-ID: <371D4054.DD6E7A5A@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <003f01be8ba2$786faca0$a382a6d1@dnohomepc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2688031956526533936==" --===============2688031956526533936== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan, don't worry about it..I have a Lexmark 1000 and that needs the Windows GUI to print or so Lexmark told me..what a crock. They don't even have NT drivers for the damn thing..so I just gave it to my parents and when I need to print something for now I go there. I didn't know this when I bought the damn thing, but how I got it was cool. My wife is from Toronto and we bought it there. 1st the exchange rate made it 1/2 price to us cause we were spending USD funds, then they screwed up and didn't charge her card...and we got a $40 rebate on it..so we made out like bandits..this may be wrong, but we get charged enough interest to make up for it ;) I plan to by an HP laserjet PS printer w/ a network card in it..cause= I have an Intel box with Linux, a Mac and soon I shall have an Ultrasparc..and my wife does a lot of graphics for work..so it's all good. laters, --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2688031956526533936==-- From jpenn@planetdirect.com Wed Apr 21 03:15:16 1999 From: jpenn@planetdirect.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Video question.... Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:15:16 -0700 Message-ID: <19990421031516.14995.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Video question....> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6235524271489915674==" --===============6235524271489915674== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hoped I'd never have to say this in public; RTFM, dude. For all of the latest on what is supported by XFree86 3.3.3, see http://www.xfr= ee86.org>. For a comprehensive list of hardware supported by SuSE Lin= ux, see http://cdb.suse.de/cdb/english/>. If you aren't afraid of some serious hacking, you might be able to set up a= frame buffer device by your kernel. Since SuSE 6.1 uses a 2.2.5 kernel, thi= s is a valid option, whereas it is not in SuSE 6.0. To those of you who would disown me for even answering such a lame question= , I apologize most sincerely. -=3D|JP|=3D- On Tue, 20 April 1999, "Fred A. Miller" wrote: >=20 >=20 > Anyone know if the ATI Xpert(a)Play 98 PCI card is presently suppored or if= it > will be in 6.1.....Lenz? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Fred -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6235524271489915674==-- From boyd@cs.unca.edu Wed Apr 21 03:22:13 1999 From: boyd@cs.unca.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:22:13 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001c01be8ba1$f3af4ca0$a382a6d1@dnohomepc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4727680301437915570==" --===============4727680301437915570== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Olszewski wrote: >=20 > Whats strange is that I never changed my default in Outlook Express. It has >... >=20 > As far as my winprinter, hp722c, I just found out a few days ago that I am > not going to be able to print to it. This is where my frustration is > comming from since I also had never heard of a parallel printer that was > windoz only. >=20 Check out http://www.httptech.com/ppa/>. There are back and wh= ite drivers for your printer. I use them with an HP 820se printer. Mark -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4727680301437915570==-- From jpenn@planetdirect.com Wed Apr 21 03:31:17 1999 From: jpenn@planetdirect.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Self Introduction Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:31:17 -0700 Message-ID: <19990421033117.19871.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5726233110512580478==" --===============5726233110512580478== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, y'all. To the approximately eleven hundred of you who subscribe to this list, I'm = pleased to meet you. I live in Kansas City, Missouri, in the US of A, (no, c= ows do not roam the streets anymore [sheesh, why do people always ask that?])= . I've been a Linux user since kernel 1.3.1, but I'm still an amatuer. I've= used most major distros, inculding lots of Slack (my first), RH 5.2, COL 1.1= -1.3, Debian 1.3 (for about three hours), and SuSE since 5.2. Hell, I've eve= n dabled in a little FreeBSD. I'm writing this message before driving home f= rom work to install SuSE 6.0 for the first time. From this point forward, I promise not to make meaningless postings, flame = people too hard, or to ask any dumb questions. If a question that I post sou= nds dumb, feel free to beat the tar out of me the first time we F2F. I also = vow to distribute the most useful and up to date information I have (with or = without your request ;) ), and be courteous as reasonable with all of you. For starters, I'd *love* to fire-up a one-on-one conversation with someone = about their adventures with SuSE 6.0, kernel 2.2, frame buffer video, or PCI = sound cards. I look forward to my first reply, flame, etc., from an intellig= ent person . -=3D|JP|=3D- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5726233110512580478==-- From jpenn@planetdirect.com Wed Apr 21 03:59:54 1999 From: jpenn@planetdirect.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:59:54 -0700 Message-ID: <19990421035954.15176.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0491558090088474002==" --===============0491558090088474002== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, that's a little weird. Try starting your PC in Windows command prompt mode. Make sure that your p= ath is right (that isn't always the case) by using "path=3D0ath%;\windows\com= mand" (all one string). Type "edit" to start your editor, and put some gibbe= rish in the buffer. Alt+F, P should print the buffer. If your HP has a *rea= l* power button (I'm not sure if yours does or not) and is on, you *should* g= et output. If all of this works, you can print in Linux. Okay, so maybe GhostScript can't make your powerhouse printer do anything f= ancy (yet), but you can still set up a generic text printer using the standar= d age-old "cat $file >> /dev/prn" as they did in the old days. I seem to rem= ember a company that had a commercial implementation of GS that had a much br= oader range of devices. Does anyone else know who I'm talking about? Good luck! -=3D|JP|=3D- On Tue, 20 April 1999, "Dan Olszewski" wrote: >=20 >=20 > As far as my winprinter, hp722c, I just found out a few days ago that I am > not going to be able to print to it. This is where my frustration is > comming from since I also had never heard of a parallel printer that was > windoz only. >=20 > Dan. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0491558090088474002==-- From stevep@bash.linux-shell.net Wed Apr 21 04:39:23 1999 From: stevep@bash.linux-shell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.6 Install Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:39:23 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3823909398621357228==" --===============3823909398621357228== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, Just a note to say that I installed the new kernel without a hitch. Everything I have works AFAIK. (sound,zip,modem,ppp,video,hd's,ne2000,etc) I had been 6.0 running 2.2.5, so I ftp'd the patch-2.2.6 and applied it. (My first kernel patch that actually worked!) patch -p1 < patch-2.2.6 from /usr/src. It's really nice to work with 400k files instead of 12MB files... Linux is sooo cool. Thanks, Linus! Steve. ps-for a cool cddb aware audio cdplayer THAT WORKS! try cdcd from freshmeat.net ------------------------------------ Steve Pauly (281) 496-8041 Global Marine Drilling Co. stevep(a)linux-shell.net steve.pauly(a)glm.com gmdcman(a)mindspring.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3823909398621357228==-- From senthil@easi.soft.net Wed Apr 21 04:42:51 1999 From: senthil@easi.soft.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Installing SuSE (6) on a machine with no CDROM Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:12:51 +0530 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37258bc9.599795480@mailhost.uk.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5393457231683279247==" --===============5393457231683279247== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, It is possible to install with the cdrom being in another machines cdrom and a network exists between them. During installation you can say NFS installation, then enter the IP addresses. Let Machine X be the one where you want to install Linux and=20 Let Machine Y be the one where the cdrom resides. Now edit /etc/exports file in Machine Y and add the following entry :=20 "/cdrom". Now mount the first cdrom to /cdrom using mount command on Machine Y. You need to restart your network(best reboot the system once) on Machine Y.=20 Now start the installation on Machine X and choose NFS installation, enter the IP address of Machine Y and it's mount point(/cdrom).=20 This should work fine. When it asks for second CD, just umount first CD on Machine Y using umount command and mount the second CD on Machine Y. Machine X will automatically contact Machine Y for further installation. Good Luck !!!!!! Regards, Senthil Vel On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Jamie O'Shaughnessy wrote: >=20 >=20 > Can anyone suggest a way to install SuSE on a machine with not CD? It is on > a network which has got a SuSE 6 Linux box on (with a CD). In the manual it > says you can install from an FTP site or NFS. Will sharing my CD drive from > my existing machine, over NFS work? What about when it needs to change CD? > I assume to install from NFS or FTP you need images of all the CDs > available and you won't be able to share a CD in this way? >=20 > Jamie >=20 > ___________________________________________________________________________= =20 > Jamie O'Shaughnessy e-mail: joshaugh(a)uk.oracle.com= =20 > Designer Impact Analysis Team phone : 0118 92 45052=20 > ______________________________________________________ __ __ _ __ . __= =20 > Opinions are my own and not those of... (__)|- -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5393457231683279247==-- From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Wed Apr 21 04:51:41 1999 From: bobbyg@ihug.co.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Self Introduction Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:51:41 +1200 Message-ID: <371D595D.D10024@ihug.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0030090560156610216==" --===============0030090560156610216== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jon Pennington wrote "I live in Kansas City, Missouri, in the US of A, (no, cows do not roam the streets anymore [sheesh, why do people always ask that?]). " He is lying, I've seen the cows..... ;-) Greek Geek. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0030090560156610216==-- From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Wed Apr 21 05:19:41 1999 From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] OT:Logical parser: weylix 0.0 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:19:41 -0400 Message-ID: <371D5FED.51C8C8FD@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> In-Reply-To: <37191B91.EF0B0C48@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0294491678482261462==" --===============0294491678482261462== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Who knows what will happen with this? I have some code that compiles and seems to construct the tree. I did not mention this in the comments of the code, but a good intermediate step that I intend to pursue next is to traverse the tree and demonstrate that it is indeed constructed correctly by outputting the node values. The code is attached. If it gets any bigger I will start posting it to my web site. I don't feel too bad about doing this here at least to get something started. I hope it will improve the programming skills of the list participants and thus make them more valuable linux community members. Good Night! Steve
/* Program        : Weylix (In honor of Hermann Weyl)
Keeper of the Code: Steven T. Hatton
Version           : 0.0
Project initiation: April 17, 1999
Last update       : April 21, 1999
License           : GPL
Language          : C++ (currently uses minimal "++" functionality)
Purpose(s)        : This project was begun in as a learning exercise.  It is
                    hoped the following will be gained form its development:
=20
The program is currently capable of parsing a basic symbolic logic statement =

and storing the statement in a binary tree formed of instances of a recursive=
=20
data structure.

Short term programming goals:
1) Write a function capable of traversing the tree and evaluating each node=20
according to the rules of symbolic logic.  The set of variables should be=20
evaluated for each possible combination.  For example if a statement were=20
input with variables 'A', 'B', 'C' then the program should traverse the tree =

for each of the following:=20

    A | B | C
     ------
    1 | 1 | 1
    1 | 1 | 0
    1 | 0 | 1
    1 | 0 | 0
    0 | 1 | 1
    0 | 1 | 0
    0 | 0 | 1
    0 | 0 | 0

    The program should output the results in a truth table form.

2) Allow for the use of parentheses.  This should be done by modifying the=20
   MakeTree function so that it calls itself and returns a pointer to the root
   of the tree resulting from evaluating the contents of the parentheses.
3) Verify that all possible statements ( currently limited to 26 variables=20
   ['A'..'Z'], and the operators "and" and "or") can be correctly evaluated.
4) Add a negation operator.
5) Better document the source.

Medium range goals:
1) Using either gtk or qt, create a GUI that will accept user input, and=20
   display both the truth table and a graphical representation of the binary =

   tree.
2) Extend this GUI so that is will also display a Ven diagram of the symbolic=
=20
   logic statement.

Long range goals:
1) Extend the program so that it can handle more sophisticated concepts such =

   as predicate algebra.
2) Further extend the program so that It can be used as a heuristic tool to=20
   represent basic concepts axiomatic set theory.=20
3) Continue to extend the program to explore deeper aspect of abstract algebr=
a.

It is hoped the participants will:
1) improve our programming skills,
2) learn how to manage a collective project of this nature,
3) gain a better understanding of foundational mathematics,
4) collectively produce a heuristic program that will enable others to learn =

   these lessons from reading the code and using the program.
5) remove ourselves from the ranks of the "low-lifes who can't write code."
*/

#include 
#include 
#include 
struct node{
  char* token;
  node* p;
  node* lc;
  node* rc;
};

node* MakeNode(char*);
node* MakeTree(int argc, char* argv[]);
main(int argc, char* argv[])
{
  int i=3D1;
  node* root, current;
  root =3D MakeTree(argc, argv);
}

node* MakeTree(int argc, char* argv[]){
  int i=3D1;
  node* curr;
  node* root;
  node* sr;
  curr=3Droot=3Dsr=3DMakeNode(argv[i++]);
 =20
  for (i; itoken[0]) && curr->token[1]=3D=3D'\0'){// token is a va=
riable
      sr->rc=3Dcurr;
      curr->p=3Dsr;
      if (!strcmp(sr->token,"or")){
        sr=3Dsr->rc;
      }
       cout << "variable: ";
    }
    else if (!strcmp(curr->token,"and")){
      curr->lc=3Dsr;
      sr->p=3Dcurr;
      sr=3Dcurr;
      if(sr->lc =3D=3D root){
        root =3D sr;
      }
      else{
        root->rc =3D sr;
        sr->lc->p=3Dsr;
      }
      cout << "operator is: ";
    }
    else if(!strcmp(curr->token,"or")){
      curr->lc =3D root;
      root->p=3Dcurr;
      sr =3D curr;
      if (sr->lc =3D=3D root){
        root =3D sr;
      }
      cout << "operator is or: ";
    }=20
    else{
      cout << "invalid input: ";
      }
    cout << argv[i] << '\n';

  }
}

node* MakeNode(char* token)
{
  node* pointer;
  pointer =3D new (node);
  pointer->p=3DNULL;
  pointer->lc=3DNULL;
  pointer->rc=3DNULL;
  pointer->token=3Dtoken;
  return pointer;
}

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From mcdo148@ibm.net Wed Apr 21 06:07:09 1999
From: mcdo148@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] I'm online with linux!!! Hurrah!!!
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:07:09 -0500
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Hello everyone!

        Well, after all that hassle I gave you guys I thought you might like =
to know
that I finally sussed it and am sending this mail through linux. Part of the
thing was that with my ibm access, your username is actually
something.something.name which it doesn't tell you, and I hadn't noticed since
under windoze ibm has its own hit enter dialer thingy.
        That and I rebuilt my kernel, with a few optimisations, added sound s=
upport and
in xconfig the PPP protocol support wasn't selected by default, and consideri=
ng
even before I just figured out the right username my modem was talking to the
ibm server, well I don't think PPP was in my kernel.
        Stupid, I know.
        Anyways, THANK YOU ALL!!! The household can now do everything under l=
inux. My
mom-in-law loves it by the way, she used StarOffice the other day for the fir=
st
time, and now wants it at work. :-)
       =20
        You don't get this kind of satisfaction from any other Os, Cheers to =
all of you
and the jazzin` SuSE folk, as we say in Glasgow your pure dead brilliant by t=
he
way :-)

        Dom

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From mcdo148@ibm.net Wed Apr 21 06:21:35 1999
From: mcdo148@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Cheers! I'm online with Linux, Hurrah!!!
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:21:35 -0500
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Hello!

Well, after all that hassle I gave you guys I thought you might like to know
that I finally sussed it and am sending this mail through linux. Part of the
thing was that with my ibm access, your username is actually
something.something.name which it doesn't tell you, and I hadn't noticed since
under windoze ibm has its own hit enter dialer thingy.
        That and I rebuilt my kernel, with a few optimisations, added sound
support and in xconfig the PPP protocol support wasn't selected by default, a=
nd
considering even before I just figured out the right username my modem was
talking to the ibm server, well I don't think PPP was in my kernel.
        Stupid, I know.
        Anyways, THANK YOU ALL!!! The household can now do everything under
linux. My mom-in-law loves it by the way, she used StarOffice the other day f=
or
the first time, and now wants it at work. :-)
       =20
        You don't get this kind of satisfaction from any other Os, Cheers to =
all
of you and the jazzin` SuSE folk, as we say in Glasgow your pure dead brillia=
nt
by the way :-)
        Now I've just got to do that chmod thing on pppd so other users can a=
ccess it.

        Ta ra,
        Dom

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From kester@cwcom.net Wed Apr 21 08:16:10 1999
From: kester@cwcom.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KDE 1.1: double click does not work as expected
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:16:10 +0100
Message-ID: <005a01be8be5$3701f780$2b0d1280@kester>
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Doesn't xset give the chance to change these speeds?  You can add whatever
xset commands to your .xinitrc file.  Or you could try a different window
manager rather than KWM.
k.

:>
:> Related to this topic: I am looking for a way to tune the delay within
:> which a double-click will be recognised in KDE. I don't seem to find
:> anything relevant under KWM, for instance.
:
:This is arough guess: /etc/XF86config. When setting up X, you can alter
:these parameters. Rerun sax / XF86Setup, but save your config file
:before.
:
:There might be a chance in KDE as well.....
:
:Juergen
:
:>
:> Or is this done on a per-application basis (where possible)?
:>
:
:For my problem:
:
:> Some applications have real difficulty recognising a double click
:> (amaya is really really bad ... ).
:
:no. it affects all and all of a sudden after upgrading. Nothing
:critical, but annoying.
:
:
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D     __   _
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:Tel: 0201-743648  dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ /
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From eupcedb@mail.kuehne-nagel.com Wed Apr 21 08:54:26 1999
From: eupcedb@mail.kuehne-nagel.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Self Introduction
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:54:26 +0200
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Hi Jon,
Jon Pennington wrote:
>=20
> Hey, y'all.
>=20
>   To the approximately eleven hundred of you who subscribe to this list, I'=
m pleased to meet you.  I live in Kansas City, Missouri, in the US of A, (no,=
 cows do not roam the streets anymore [sheesh, why do people always ask that?=
]).  I've been a Linux user since kernel 1.3.1, but I'm still an amatuer.  I'=
ve used most major distros, inculding lots of Slack (my first), RH 5.2, COL 1=
.1-1.3, Debian 1.3 (for about three hours), and SuSE since 5.2.  Hell, I've e=
ven dabled in a little FreeBSD.  I'm writing this message before driving home=
 from work to install SuSE 6.0 for the first time.

No  key supported on your keyboard ? SCNR ;)

>=20
>   From this point forward, I promise not to make meaningless postings, flam=
e people too hard, or to ask any dumb questions.  If a question that I post s=
ounds dumb, feel free to beat the tar out of me the first time we F2F.  I als=
o vow to distribute the most useful and up to date information I have (with o=
r without your request ;) ), and be courteous as reasonable with all of you.
>=20
>   For starters, I'd *love* to fire-up a one-on-one conversation with someon=
e about their adventures with SuSE 6.0, kernel 2.2, frame buffer video, or PC=
I sound cards.  I look forward to my first reply, flame, etc., from an intell=
igent person .
>=20

No flame but a hint to prevent flames :
break your lines on column 70, or even better on column 60. Your
mail gets more readable then.

CU
Dirk

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From edg@euronet.nl Wed Apr 21 09:28:47 1999
From: edg@euronet.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] hisax not up ?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:28:47 +0000
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Does someone why hisax/ippp0 is not starting an dialup to my provider
when i type in a ip adres or http adres on my linux machine out my own
ip range of 192.168.1.1 ?? Acording the manual this sould be started
automaticly some sort of setting is wrong?=20

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From joshaugh@uk.oracle.com Wed Apr 21 09:41:06 1999
From: joshaugh@uk.oracle.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] GNOME 1.0.x RPMs for SuSE 6
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:41:06 +0000
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On 19 Apr 99 17:24:42 +0100, you wrote:

[we were discussing the gnome rpms as build by SuSE,
ftp://ftp.suse.com/=
pub/suse_update/GNOME/glibc/1.0.x/>]

>(As I said in my original mail) I think the only way is to remove all the
>orginal rpms and then install the new ones. It seems the package names
>don't match up at all and also the contents of the packages don't match up.
>
>The main thing I couldn't get working was gnome starting windowmaker as the
>window manager. When I log in (from kdm for a gnome session) it doesn't
>start a windowmanager and I have to type wmaker at the prompt. This is a
>real pain. I've set wmaker as the window manager in the gnome control
>center but it doesn't seem to take any notice of it... :(
(this was starting wmaker as the window manager for gnome)

I've fixed this by copying the "gnome" and "gnomewm" scripts from
/usr/X11R6/bin as installed by the "other" gnome SuSE rpms (from
http://www.tu-harburg.de/skf/Pub/ifmpc118.ifm.uni-hamburg.de=
/gnome.html>) to
/usr/X11R6/bin (i.e. I've kept them). I can now log on using KDM to a gnome
session and it starts up windowmaker. I also copied the icons/pixmaps that
were included from the other rpms from the directories:
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/WindowMaker/Pixmaps
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/WindowMaker/Icons
And things are fine now.

I've attached the two scripts to this mail as they are only quite small.

The *only* problem I now have is that I can't add the pager applet to the
gnome panel, it complains saying I'm not running a gnome compliant window
manager, try Enlightenment DR0.15. Has gnome changed between 1.0.3 and
1.0.5 so that windowmaker is no longer compliant? I've been using wmaker
0.51.0-2 with gnome 1.0.3 and the pager applet works fine - with SuSE's
gnome 1.0.5 and wmaker 0.51.1-8 it isn't?

Cheers,
Jamie

___________________________________________________________________________=20
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#!/bin/bash

#
# (C) 1998, S.u.S.E. GmbH, Fuerth
# Author: Martin Scherbaum 
#

export GNOMEDIR=3D/opt/gnome
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D$GNOMEDIR/lib
export PATH=3D$GNOMEDIR/bin:$PATH

#
# try to get the right window manager
#
WINDOWMANAGER=3D`gnomewm`

#
# if it failed, do fvwm2 as standard
#
test -z "$WINDOWMANAGER" && WINDOWMANAGER=3Dfvwm2
export WINDOWMANAGER

#
# start the window manager
#
$WINDOWMANAGER &=20

#
# exec gnome-session as last program, so everything stops when
# gnome is ended
#
exec gnome-session

#!/bin/bash

#
# (C) 1998, S.u.S.E. GmbH, Fuerth
# Author: Martin Scherbaum 
#

#
# get language from environment
#
case "$LANG" in

    de*)
        TITLE=3D"Windowmanager-Auswahl"
        LANGUAGE=3Dgerman
        ;;
    fr*)
        TITLE=3D"S=C3=A9lection du gestionnaire de fen=C3=AAtre"
        LANGUAGE=3Denglish
        ;;
    it*)
        TITLE=3D"Selezione del window manager"
        LANGUAGE=3Denglish
        ;;
    *)
        TITLE=3D"Choose a Window Manager"
        LANGUAGE=3Denglish
        ;;
esac

case "$1" in=20

    #
    # called if interactive selection is wanted
    #
    -list)

        type -p wmlist &> /dev/null \
            && OLDLIST=3D`wmlist` \
            || OLDLIST=3D"fvwm2"

        WMLIST=3D""
        for i in $OLDLIST
        do
            case "$i" in

                gnome|*kde|kwm) continue;;
                *)              WMLIST=3D"$WMLIST$i ";;
            esac
        done

        cd /usr/X11R6/bin

        case "`rpm -q listexec 2> /dev/null`" in
            listexec-0.4*) TOPT=3D"-t";;
            *)             TOPT=3D"-i";;
        esac

        echo "$WMLIST" | listexec -g +160+120 $TOPT "$TITLE" -l "$LANGUAGE" -=
e "gnomewm"

        #
        # .gnomewm always has to contain something!
        #
        test -f ~/.gnomewm || echo "fvwm2" > ~/.gnomewm
        ;;

    #=09
    # just to read the settings
    #
    "")
        test -f ~/.gnomewm \
            && cat ~/.gnomewm \
            || gnomewm -list;;

    #
    # do this to write settings, called from   gnomewm -list
    #
    *)
        echo "$1" > ~/.gnomewm
        echo "$1";;
esac

#
# we are always happy...
#
exit 0

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From samelash@ix.netcom.com Wed Apr 21 09:54:39 1999
From: samelash@ix.netcom.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Installing SuSE (6) on a machine with no CDROM
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:54:39 +0000
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Jamie ,=20

Just share your cdrom on the server , not its ip address , then you can do
one of two things ,=20

You can mount the shared cdrom by passing the ip address and path (check
the docs for complete info) or just start up yast , and do a network (nfs)
install. You will need the detials of the network card and the ip of your
server and cdrom path.

If you install samba you can even use a shared windowes cdrom ( of cource
you will need to have a basic suse os installed for this) but it can be
done as well. I did this by fist seting up a plian linux on a widows
machinbe and rebooting and sharing the cd ron drive , Installed the os from
the linux server to the other machine , then went back and removed the
linux from the win machine , and used smbmount to share the windows drive.

This is what I love about linux , you can do just about anything , no holes
bared.    =20

At 12:55 PM 4/20/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Jamie O'Shaughnessy wrote:
>>=20
>> Can anyone suggest a way to install SuSE on a machine with not CD? It is on
>> a network which has got a SuSE 6 Linux box on (with a CD). In the manual it
>> says you can install from an FTP site or NFS. Will sharing my CD drive from
>> my existing machine, over NFS work? What about when it needs to change CD?
>> I assume to install from NFS or FTP you need images of all the CDs
>> available and you won't be able to share a CD in this way?
>
>The way I have been doing this is by ftp, using a valid user's name on
>the server.  I mount the cdrom on the Linux machine, start the install
>with the floppy on the client, choose ftp, use my login on the server
>and type /cdrom for the install directory.  Works very well.
>
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From samelash@ix.netcom.com Wed Apr 21 10:04:09 1999
From: samelash@ix.netcom.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Postgress configure/setup from suse distro HOW ??
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:04:09 +0000
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Karl , Thanks for your patience.

1 /re other packages , you meant pg_ifa or pg_iface , or both ??
I have both installed.

2/ I note that at boot up the postgres serveives are started , So I will
assume that postgress is working.

Reggarding making the tables , you mean use psql , right ??
Is this documentation (for psql)in the postgres doc ,or elswhere ??

I gather that what you are saying is since there are no "databas"  created
that is why pgaccess is not seeing them. So I need to create them with psql
Right  ?

Now on to other things 

I want to use postgress with windows , specificaly with delhi apps , while
I re do them with Java.
I assume that I need to use the ODBC drivers ??

How do you set postgress up so that it can be seen by windows users ??

Also how do I set postgress up so thatother linux macjhines can usi it as
well ??

Thanks

Samy

=20
At 09:33 AM 4/20/1999 +0200, you wrote:
>
>Samy Elashmawy  writes:
>
>|   >After installing the packages run
>|   >
>|   >    rcpostgres start
>|  =20
>|   Do you need to set this up elswhere to autamaticly start each time you
boot
>|   up ??
>
>It's not necessary.  At boottime starting PostgreSQL is controlled by
>the variable START_POSTGRES in /etc/rc.config.
>
>|   >Not need to do this; you'll find profile fragments at the above
>|   >mentioned place, that are source by /etc/profile
>|  =20
>|   I am not sure what you mean here .
>
>Please, have a look at /etc/profile.d/postgres.sh -- simply don't worry
>about it ;)
>
>|   I fired up pgaccess , and was not able to find the sample data from
>|   pg_datab ?=20
>
>pg_datab only contains the templates.  First create your own database
>(as said in the previous mail) and then try to access your own DB with
>pgaccess.
>
>|   You mention other interfaces. What other interfaces are there besides
>|   pgaccess ??
>
>a command line tool (psql) and others -- please have a look at the
>mentioned packages (pg_*).
>
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From lach@lach.net Wed Apr 21 11:32:46 1999
From: lach@lach.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Format a partition as FAT
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 06:32:46 -0500
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Patrick,

1) umount the ext2 partiotion
2) run fdisk and change the partion type from linux to dos
3)  run mkdosfs on the new dos partion
4) you should be all set

Lach

On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote:
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>=20
> How do I format a ext2 as FAT from within Linux?
>=20
> All help appreciated.
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From samelash@ix.netcom.com Wed Apr 21 12:06:46 1999
From: samelash@ix.netcom.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] wvdial falure as user , works only as root
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:06:46 +0000
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Where in yast do I tell it not to remove or play with resolv.conf ??

Thanks all

At 04:01 PM 4/19/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Quoting Samy Elashmawy on Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 02:20:46PM +0000
>> Were you reffering to yast over removing resolv.conf or the access denied
>> error when wvdial trys to access the modem ??
>
>YAST has a setting which causes it to rewrite your resolv.conf file.  If you
>want to hand tune this file, turn the option off in rc.config or yast.
>
>>=20
>> >=20
>> >
>> >--=20
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From wjsand01@sparky.tool.net Wed Apr 21 13:36:36 1999
From: wjsand01@sparky.tool.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] wvdial falure as user , works only as root
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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Samy Elashmawy wrote:

> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:06:46 +0000
> From: Samy Elashmawy 
> To: Michael Perry 
> Cc: "suse-linux-e(a)suse.com" 
> Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] wvdial falure as user , works only as root
>=20
>=20
> Where in yast do I tell it not to remove or play with resolv.conf ??
>=20
> Thanks all
>=20
>=20
=20
        yast

        system administration

        change configuration file

Once there look for=20

CREATE_RESOLVCONF

make that no if you don't want SuSE to edit it for you...

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From snapek@yahoo.com Wed Apr 21 14:41:31 1999
From: snapek@yahoo.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey, And All That Stuff!
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:41:31 -0700
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Well, I checked the bogomips displayed upon bootup,
and was AMAZED (to say the least) to see that I am
getting 29.2!!!!!!!!! (many more exclamation points!).
 I tried changing the bios settings, so that it was
DE-TURBO on bootup, and then turning turbo on after
bootup, and also the other way around (turbo on
bootup), and it didnt change.  Now I know damned well
that the system is a P60, as it says right on the chip
first of all, and secondly, the SuSE bootdisk reads
the CPU as a 586.  So, suffice to say, there's
something SERIOUSLY wonky about this.  The cpu's not
in backwards or anything :), as its not possible (only
fits in one way), but I was wondering if upon taking
it out, I might have bent a pin or something (which I
highly doubt, but thought to check), and that might be
affecting it!!!=20

Honestly, the system is running SO slow, that it takes
nearly 5 minutes to start up X, thats getting the
server running, then starting up FVWM2. =20

Which brings me to my other questions, which I'll just
post publicly anyways :)

Thanx, And Any Help Is Appreciated!

Keith Snape

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From snapek@yahoo.com Wed Apr 21 14:45:40 1999
From: snapek@yahoo.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Any Help With WindowMaker!?!?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:45:40 -0700
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Would anyone happen to be able to assist me with
setting up WindowMaker as my default, and prominant
WindowManager/Desktop for X?  This is the first time
I've actually gotten X installed, and working (even
though I've been at linux for almost a year now), but
I havent the foggiest idea of how to go about setting
up WindowMaker.  I recently installed SuSE 5.3, then
put the WindowMaker RPM on floppy, and installed it.=20
Now, the only question is...... What do I do from
here?!?! :)

Thanks,
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From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Wed Apr 21 15:07:36 1999
From: chuckwm_98@yahoo.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] procfs and printing
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HI all,

     I have been trying to work with this on my own
but to no avail.  Here is the message I get on bootup
from dmesg:

parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,ECP,ECPPS2]
parport0: detected irq 7; use procfs to enable
interrupt-driven operation. =20

I am somewhat confused as to why this is happening.=20
Most MB's I have had have not forced an irq for the
printer port.  If anyone could possibly set me
straight on this I would be eternally greatful.

Thanks

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From Henry.Meyerding@PSS.Boeing.com Wed Apr 21 15:53:49 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Assistance Requested...
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So far, my foray into SuSE Linux has been very successful, except that I need=
 help with the following things:

1.  The SuSE client machine is on the same Ethernet LAN as my Caldera server.=
  I can telnet to my client machine, or telnet from the client machine to my =
server, but I have no nameservice on my client and Netscape cannot resolve UR=
Ls.  I replaced the yast inspired resolv.conf with the original resolv.conf m=
y client had (when it was Caldera and it worked) but this does not solve the =
problem.  HELP!

2.  Although the folks at SuSE installation help were very helpful, I have be=
en unable to make my SuSE client believe it has an Adaptec 1505 SCSI card and=
 Panasonic CD-ROM.  HELP!

3.  I need someone who knows what they're doing to help me set up sound on Su=
SE.  If I get to do it once, I feel that I'll be able to do it again on subse=
quent computers, but I'm conceptually challenged by the instructions on the h=
owtos.  HELP

4.  Several games call for things they don't have - abuse wants svgalib.so.1 =
and I can't find it on the CDs.  HELP!

5.  When I install SuSE to my server (as a second Linux installation in diffe=
rent drives than the Caldera)  I'd really appreciate some help getting PPP op=
erational.  My ISP uses UUCP over PPP and I'd like someone who really knows s=
endmail and fetchmail to assist me.  HELP!

6.  When I last had a go at yast, I decided to set up sendmail, so I ticked t=
hat flag and it cogitated about that for awhile.  Mail doesn't work - probabl=
y because nameservice doesn't work.  But interestingly, my Caldera server dec=
ided from that moment to no longer give me notification of incoming mail or r=
eport when I had last logged on, when logging onto the console.  The /etc/pro=
file is unchanged, and I am severely confused.  Think I've been hacked?  HELP!

So far, I have been unable to find anyone who has the time, knowledge or incl=
ination to assist me with these problems, even when money was added as an ind=
ucement.

Any help cheerfully accepted.

Thanks,

Henry Meyerding

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From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Wed Apr 21 15:55:58 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Format a partition as FAT
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:55:58 +0100
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Hi all,

How do I format a ext2 as FAT from within Linux?

All help appreciated.

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From andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk Wed Apr 21 16:01:40 1999
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:01:40 +0100
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It depends how you got to this point.

If you sypply more info. maybe we can help.

Andy
andy(a)mcrentals.demon.co.uk

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>my filesystem is read only, any help???
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From martin@gisser.de Wed Apr 21 16:26:27 1999
From: martin@gisser.de
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Problem with xwdtopnm
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:26:27 +0000
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Hi there,

it seems my box has some X-server/Graphicscard problem:

  xwd | xwdtopnm  > test.pnm

only reproduces the green channel or gives the error message:

  X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for op=
eration)
    Major opcode of failed request:  91 (X_QueryColors)
    Value in failed request:  0x401da1b0
    Serial number of failed request:  1851
    Current serial number in output stream:  1851
  xwdtopnm: couldn't read XWD file header

I don't understand this.
Is there anybody having an explanation for this phenomenon?

My graphicscard is named "Diamond Viper V330" and the server/driver (??)
from my SuSE 6.0 distribution seems to be some 16-bit surrogate thing.

I came up with this stuff on the fvwm mailinglist:
=20
Martin Gisser wrote:=20
> > Martin Gisser wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi there!
> > >
> > > I'd like to put a screenshot of my FvwmPager (which is swallowed by Fvw=
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> > > on my machine's homepage using some SSI or CGI.
> >
> >.....=20
>
> Here's what I did:
>
>  xwd -silent -name "Desk 0" | xwdtopnm  > pager.pnm
>
> (and then turned on the GIMP)
>
> But
> 1.) I only get the green channel=20
> 2.) Parts of other windows overlapping FvwmPager are also rendered
>
> See http://www.gisser.de/pager.xwd.pnm.gif> and http://www.gisser.de/pager.real.gif>

Cheers,
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From jpenn@planetdirect.com Wed Apr 21 16:46:50 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey, And All That Stuff!
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:46:50 -0700
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> Well, I checked the bogomips displayed upon bootup,
> and was AMAZED (to say the least) to see that I am
> getting 29.2!!!!!!!!! (many more exclamation points!).

Hmmmm...wonky indeed...

  I have similar symptoms with a Pentium 100.  Takes forever to boot, clocks =
around 49 BOGOMIPS.  You're not alone.

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From jpenn@planetdirect.com Wed Apr 21 17:25:35 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Self Introduction
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:25:35 -0700
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> No flame but a hint to prevent flames :
> break your lines on column 70, or even better on column 60. Your
> mail gets more readable then.
>=20
> CU
> Dirk

  Sorry, folks.  I'm relegated to the Purgatory known as WebMail.  I work
on so many machines in a given day, I couldn't possibly install client
software and keep them up to date.  I'd use straight-up Pine, but my home
PC is only connected to the net by ppp/modem.  My cable company just went
fiber-optic last night (like, that's when they threw the switch); maybe
cable modems are around the corner ;).

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From Andy@nerds.co.uk Wed Apr 21 17:28:39 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice Query
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Can StarOffice that comes with SuSE read and write Word6.0 and Excel
files? I know AplixWare will but are the filteres for this included in
the demo or do I have to get the School to buy a full version?


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Windows Error #02: Multitasking attempted. System confused.
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From Andy@nerds.co.uk Wed Apr 21 17:30:25 1999
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When I compile the kernal what is the equiverlent of a IDC WinChip C6,
is it the same as a Pentium I or II? I know its socket seven, if that
helps ...


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From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Wed Apr 21 17:39:42 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] shutdown -h and Master Resource Control
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Hi all

Since upgrading my kernel from 2.0.36 to 2.2.2 I have noticed that on
command shutdown -h now, the message System is Halted is displayed, but it
is followed by the message Master Resource Control: runlevel 0 has been
reached.

This did not appear under 2.0.36, is this part of kernel 2.2.2 upgrade or
error?

Thanks
Rich


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From jpenn@planetdirect.com Wed Apr 21 17:54:30 1999
From: jpenn@planetdirect.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2.6 Install
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:54:30 -0700
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  I was wondering if you'd share with us again your resources for doing the
deed listed below.  I'm in the beginning stages of my own kernel update,
and I already know that my file system utilities are out of date (the kern
can't mount any of my disks).  Perhaps you could even point me at some RPM
files ;).

  I got a generic source tree (2.2.5), configured it my way, and it built
fine.  I tried to boot the sucker, but the kernel panicked when it
couldn't mount the root file system.  Looking forward to your input!

-=3D|JP|=3D-

On Tue, 20 April 1999, Steve Pauly wrote:

> Greetings,
>=20
> Just a note to say that I installed the new kernel without a hitch.
> Everything I have works AFAIK.
> (sound,zip,modem,ppp,video,hd's,ne2000,etc)
>=20
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From ttwkam@yahoo.com Wed Apr 21 17:59:05 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] problem upgrading to 2.2.5, I know why
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:59:05 -0700
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My system was hanging when polling lp0.  The problem went away after I
attached a printer to the parallel port.  This was a strange behavior.

Anyways, I ran into another problem when the new kernel was coming up.=20
It wasn't able to mount the boot partition (I am using boot disk as my
sole choice of booting Linux).  The reason was that the new kernel
failed to start my Adaptec AHA-152X (ISA) SCSI card.  I looked into the
source code of aha152x.c; the default configuration the driver uses
matches the setting on my SCSI card.  I also double checked the kernel
setup by rerunning 'make xconfig'; I did turn on AHA152X and SCSI disk
support in my compilation.

Can anyone help?  I'm stuck.  Thanks in advance.
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From mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov Wed Apr 21 18:19:03 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] help with boot?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:19:03 -0400
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good day all ...

i'll try this question again. i have several pentium boxes that=20
have no video/cdrom/etc. they do have a network connection. i
get console access via minicom/serial connection from a 'regular'
pc running linux. i want to load suse6 onto the headless pc's but
i cannot seem to get the boot info to show up on the minicom console.

regular boot info goes to the minicom as i expect so i'm sure that
the minicom session is working.

any help would be most appreciated ...


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From wolfsong@blaze.ca Wed Apr 21 18:22:28 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Installing SuSE (6) on a machine with no CDROM
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:22:28 -0700
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Hi, All -

A related question: for a non-networked computer, would it be feasible to
connect the computer to one that does have a cdrom via a null-modem cable, and
install SuSE that way? if so, how?


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From imm@KidsCare.Net Wed Apr 21 18:33:24 1999
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wolfsong(a)blaze.ca writes:
>A related question: for a non-networked computer, would it be feasible to
>connect the computer to one that does have a cdrom via a null-modem
>cable, and
>install SuSE that way? if so, how?
Or you could just take the cd rom out  temporarily and plug it into the
one that doesn't have a cdrom and then install! =20


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Actually, X was slow, but not *that* bad considering I was using KDE 1.0
at the time, which is known to be a resource hog.  Compiling takes about
twice as long as my Pentium 90 did with 32 megs of RAM (as opposed to the
100's 16 megs), but then again, my kernel config file was *tweaked*out*.

So far, I've checked all imaginable BIOS settings, to no avail.  I'm think-
ing about replacing the cache on the board, maybe that's it.  It's good to
packrat things like cache chips, you never know when you're gonna' need 'em
:)

-=3D|JP|=3D-

On Wed, 21 April 1999, Keith Snape wrote:

>=20
>=20
> Does it also seem to take a lifetime and a half to
> start up X, or take hours to compile the kernel (or
> are those just symptoms I'm afflicted with? :) ).  And
> if you know of any way to get around that, I'd
> appreciate the help ALOT :)

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From Drow@Blazenet.net Wed Apr 21 18:42:31 1999
From: Drow@Blazenet.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] shutdown -h and Master Resource Control
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:42:31 -0400
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Richard Booth wrote:
>=20
> Hi all
>=20
> Since upgrading my kernel from 2.0.36 to 2.2.2 I have noticed that on
> command shutdown -h now, the message System is Halted is displayed, but it
> is followed by the message Master Resource Control: runlevel 0 has been
> reached.
>=20
> This did not appear under 2.0.36, is this part of kernel 2.2.2 upgrade or
> error?

No this is SuSE specific not kernel specific.  The script that displays
the message is in /etc/rc.d

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From jpenn@planetdirect.com Wed Apr 21 18:45:34 1999
From: jpenn@planetdirect.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WinChip C6
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:45:34 -0700
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It's the equivalent to a P55C or a Pentuim MMX.  Let me know how this all tur=
ns out, I have always wondered how a C6 does running Linux...

-=3D|JP|=3D-

On Wed, 21 April 1999, "Andy Thomson" wrote:
>
> When I compile the kernal what is the equiverlent of a IDC WinChip C6,
> is it the same as a Pentium I or II? I know its socket seven, if that
> helps ...
> --=20
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> Andy Thomson                                                  _
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From jboonen@worldonline.nl Wed Apr 21 19:19:13 1999
From: jboonen@worldonline.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Sound with ESS Maestro 2 PCI
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:19:13 +0200
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Dear Razvan,

It's until now not possible to use the maestro 2 PCI chip. As it isn't suppor=
ted
yet. Allen Cox (http://www.linux.org.uk/diary/>) is workin=
g on it. It seems that
4front has the driver nearly ready. (http://www.opensound.com/>) I w=
onder when it'll
be a part of the kernel. I am using a maestro 1 which isn't working yet. I'm =
waiting
for the kernel version. I have had the open sound beta working but it gives a
distorted sound.

Regards,

Joop Boonen.

Razvan Cristian Oprea wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows how I could install my sound card under SuSE
> Linux 6.0, kernel 2.2.2. The sound card is an AOpen AW300 with ESS Maestro =
2 PCI
> chipset. Have anyone had such a souncard before? (it's not that new and sti=
ll I
> can't make it work). It's too pitty that my copmuter is as silent as a tomb=
.. :)
> I am thankful for any advice, no matter how small on your part. Thank you.
>
> Razvan
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From sinthetk@gothic.net Wed Apr 21 19:19:28 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] StarOffice Query
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:19:28 -0500
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Andy,

        Yes it can, very well in fact and it also does Office 97 documents..I
trade work with MSHeads all the time :)
>=20
> Can StarOffice that comes with SuSE read and write Word6.0 and Excel
> files? I know AplixWare will but are the filteres for this included in
> the demo or do I have to get the School to buy a full version?


--=20
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From jack@malone.tyler.com Wed Apr 21 19:26:55 1999
From: jack@malone.tyler.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WinChip C6
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:26:55 -0500
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At 06:30 PM 4/21/1999 +0100, Andy Thomson wrote:
>
>When I compile the kernal what is the equiverlent of a IDC WinChip C6,
>is it the same as a Pentium I or II? I know its socket seven, if that
>helps ...
>
>
It in the pentium I class.=20

Jack Malone
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From jboonen@worldonline.nl Wed Apr 21 19:30:04 1999
From: jboonen@worldonline.nl
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Dear all,

I would like to use imapd . Can someone please tell me where i can get
it? Is it available as a rpm package, if now where can i get the source?
Than i have another question is fetch mail a part of Suse 6.0? If not
where can i get the rpm package, or source?

Thank you very much in advance.

Regards,

Joop Boonen.


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From jboonen@worldonline.nl Wed Apr 21 19:43:15 1999
From: jboonen@worldonline.nl
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Soundblaster live
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:43:15 +0200
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Dear all,

It's it very sad if you read the flowing lines: (* SB Live!: Driver
development started but still months away from beta due to no
documentation. We are investigating some other mechanisms of developing
the driver by means of reverse engineering and/or using PCI bus logic
analyzers. Managed to get the AC97 mixers and the MIDI port working. So
you can only hear AudioCDs and use the MPU401 MIDI port. No beta release
dates available yet. *)

It's very sad that some hardware producing companies. Aren't putting any
effort in supporting Linux. It's sad enough that they aren't writing
drivers and even sadder that they don't deliver data for people who want
to write drivers. :-(

Maybe there should be a mechanism that tells these hardware producers
how many people are waiting for the drivers. Than they will know how big
their market is. To be serious i want to buy a sound blaster live but as
long as there is no driver for Linux i won't buy it. This shows how very
grateful Creative labs should be that there are very enthusiastic people
who are writing the drivers in spite of the obstruction of Creative
labs.

Regards,

Joop Boonen.


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From jboonen@worldonline.nl Wed Apr 21 19:44:22 1999
From: jboonen@worldonline.nl
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Soundblaster live
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Dear all,

It's it very sad if you read the flowing lines: (* SB Live!: Driver
development started but still months away from beta due to no
documentation. We are investigating some other mechanisms of developing
the driver by means of reverse engineering and/or using PCI bus logic
analyzers. Managed to get the AC97 mixers and the MIDI port working. So
you can only hear AudioCDs and use the MPU401 MIDI port. No beta release
dates available yet. *) This is a quote from the
http://www.opensound.com/status.html> site.

It's very sad that some hardware producing companies. Aren't putting any
effort in supporting Linux. It's sad enough that they aren't writing
drivers and even sadder that they don't deliver data for people who want
to write drivers. :-(

Maybe there should be a mechanism that tells these hardware producers
how many people are waiting for the drivers. Than they will know how big
their market is. To be serious i want to buy a sound blaster live but as
long as there is no driver for Linux i won't buy it. This shows how very
grateful Creative labs should be that there are very enthusiastic people
who are writing the drivers in spite of the obstruction of Creative
labs.

Regards,

Joop Boonen.

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From jpenn@planetdirect.com Wed Apr 21 19:58:53 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Video question....
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:58:53 -0700
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Sorry.  I didn't mean to sound so harsh.

  Love to hear you chronicles!  Maybe you can answer a few Q's for me
sometime.  I've just downloaded a generic 2.2.5 source, and made it fine,
but I'm gonna have to tweak a little tonight...  Specifically, I might
need some assistance with the frame buffer.  I've got a Banshee.

-=3D|JP|=3D-

On Wed, 21 April 1999, Nick Zentena wrote:
>=20
> Jon Pennington wrote:
> >=20
> > I hoped I'd never have to say this in public; RTFM, dude.
> >=20
> 	Not true kernel 2.2.5 works just fine with version 6.0. The frame
> buffer option also works. Wish I didn't need it but it works. IMHO
> setting up the frame buffer for my card wasn't serious hacking. Straight
> forward. My only problems were figuring out the difference in file
> layout between Redhat and SuSE.
>=20
> 	Nick

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From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Wed Apr 21 20:42:26 1999
From: k01164@ko.sdu.dk
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Where to get imapd
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:42:26 +0200
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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Joop Boonen wrote:

>=20
> Dear all,
>=20
> I would like to use imapd . Can someone please tell me where i can get
> it? Is it available as a rpm package, if now where can i get the source?
> Than i have another question is fetch mail a part of Suse 6.0? If not
> where can i get the rpm package, or source?

As far as I recall both imapd and fetchmail is part of the pop
package... Fetchmail definately is... The package is in the n
(network) section.


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From jerdfelt@suse.com Wed Apr 21 20:50:17 1999
From: jerdfelt@suse.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Soundblaster live
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:50:17 -0700
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On Wed, Apr 21, 1999, Joop Boonen  wrote:
>=20
> It's it very sad if you read the flowing lines: (* SB Live!: Driver
> development started but still months away from beta due to no
> documentation. We are investigating some other mechanisms of developing
> the driver by means of reverse engineering and/or using PCI bus logic
> analyzers. Managed to get the AC97 mixers and the MIDI port working. So
> you can only hear AudioCDs and use the MPU401 MIDI port. No beta release
> dates available yet. *) This is a quote from the
> http://www.opensound.com/status.html> site.
>=20
> It's very sad that some hardware producing companies. Aren't putting any
> effort in supporting Linux. It's sad enough that they aren't writing
> drivers and even sadder that they don't deliver data for people who want
> to write drivers. :-(
>=20
> Maybe there should be a mechanism that tells these hardware producers
> how many people are waiting for the drivers. Than they will know how big
> their market is. To be serious i want to buy a sound blaster live but as
> long as there is no driver for Linux i won't buy it. This shows how very
> grateful Creative labs should be that there are very enthusiastic people
> who are writing the drivers in spite of the obstruction of Creative
> labs.

Actually, Creative recently hired a Linux developer to develop drivers
for all of their products (soundcards and video) and will be releasing
binary old drivers sometime in the future.

JE


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From brauki@cityweb.de Wed Apr 21 20:58:21 1999
From: brauki@cityweb.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast!
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:58:21 +0200
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Ewan Dunbar wrote:
>=20
> On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Steve Crane wrote:
>=20
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 09:00:44PM -0500, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> >
> > When I checked now the bogomips rating is 53.25, so the turbo appears to
> > have made a significant difference.  Or is it normal for the bogomips to
> > vary so much on the same processor?
>=20
> Nope. Must've been the turbo. I suppose I can gloat about this machine now
> that I realise how fast it is, comparatively. 49.87 bogomips is pretty
> good for a 486.
>=20

You can compare bogomips only within the same processor family. You
can=C5=BDt compare a 50 bogomips on a 486 with 50 bogomips on a Pentium. But
it=C5=BDs a goot measure to check speed gained by altering jumpers or turbo
switches etc.

Juergen


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Subject:
 Re: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] Installing SuSE (6) on a machine with no   CDROM
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:58:59 -0700
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On Wed, 21 April 1999, Ian M. Moore wrote:
>=20
> wolfsong(a)blaze.ca writes:
> >A related question: for a non-networked computer, would it be feasible to
> >connect the computer to one that does have a cdrom via a null-modem
> >cable, and
> >install SuSE that way? if so, how?
> Or you could just take the cd rom out  temporarily and plug it into the
> one that doesn't have a cdrom and then install! =20

I don't care how good you think you are with networks, a screwdriver would
be the easiest and most effective route.  Okay, so maybe it's not a long-
term solution, but it is final and almost gauranteed! :)

-=3D|JP|=3D-

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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Wed Apr 21 21:04:33 1999
From: northsky@ix.netcom.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:04:33 -0400
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Olszewski wrote:

>=20
> The reason I jumped on this is I though the email was directed at me since I
> was the only one listed on the To: line.  No offence taken.  Just frustrated
> that I can't get my hardware to run under Linux.  Although it's not Linux's
> fault, it my modem and printer manufacturers faults.

Hmm. An HP 722C. I don't think there is any such thing as a Winprinter --
but I'd have to check into it. When you `cat > /dev/lp0` or lp1, depending
on your hardware setup and your kernel, do you get any output?

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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Wed Apr 21 21:26:00 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey, And All That Stuff!
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:26:00 -0400
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On 21 Apr 1999, Jon Pennington wrote:
> > Well, I checked the bogomips displayed upon bootup,
> > and was AMAZED (to say the least) to see that I am
> > getting 29.2!!!!!!!!! (many more exclamation points!).
>=20
> Hmmmm...wonky indeed...
>=20
>   I have similar symptoms with a Pentium 100.  Takes forever to boot,
>   clocks around 49 BOGOMIPS.  You're not alone.

Well, none of this belongs on a Linux mailing list, at any rate. Maybe
someone should start a mailing list where people who have bad hardware can
go talk about their griefs.

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From linux1@federal.crc.com Wed Apr 21 21:41:34 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] What happend to ppp in 6.1?  Where did suseppp go?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:41:34 -0400
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We got 6.1 in (yes, it was the german version).  Anyway, what happen to ppp?
We use to add a modem-ppp device under network in YaST.  That use to have an
option for ppp configuration.  Now it wants an IP address for the modem and
the server we shall talk to!  In addition, suseppp seems to be gone.  Help!
We can no longer activate the device (Yast wants an IP until it will allow
us to activate it).

Charles


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From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Wed Apr 21 22:02:13 1999
From: bobbyg@ihug.co.nz
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Video question...
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:02:13 +1200
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 Jon Pennington wrote

"Love to hear you chronicles!  Maybe you can answer a few Q's for me
sometime.  I've just downloaded a generic 2.2.5 source, and made it
fine,
but I'm gonna have to tweak a little tonight...  Specifically, I might
need some assistance with the frame buffer.  I've got a Banshee."

If you have not already, check out the "patches,updates, bugfix'z,"
section of the main www page, for SuSE 6.0, there is an update in their
for Banshee.

Greek Geek          :-)


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From gaw@hotrwaco.hhscn.org Wed Apr 21 22:32:12 1999
From: gaw@hotrwaco.hhscn.org
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Where to get imapd
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:32:12 -0500
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I'm using imapd on my SuSE server.  It was apparently included among the
mail programs, since I did not have to download it specifically.  It works
well, except when I have more than 100 new messages.

Glenn
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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Heart of Texas Region MHMR - Waco, Texas

On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Ole Kofoed Hansen wrote:

>=20
>=20
> On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Joop Boonen wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > Dear all,
> >=20
> > I would like to use imapd . Can someone please tell me where i can get
> > it? Is it available as a rpm package, if now where can i get the source?
> > Than i have another question is fetch mail a part of Suse 6.0? If not
> > where can i get the rpm package, or source?
>=20
> As far as I recall both imapd and fetchmail is part of the pop
> package... Fetchmail definately is... The package is in the n
> (network) section.
>=20
> --=20
>=20
> Regards    Med venlig hilsen
>=20
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> mailto:k01164(a)ko.sdu.dk
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From mcdo148@ibm.net Wed Apr 21 23:33:36 1999
From: mcdo148@ibm.net
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Chicago Tribune: SuSE stand at comdex draws huge crowds
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:33:36 -0500
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Hello,

        This talks about masses thronging around the SuSE booth at comdex, th=
is
reporter says that only win2000 stand drew more crowds. Good to hear SuSE bei=
ng
so popular at such a big show :-)

http://chicagotribune.com/=
business/businessnews/ws/item/0,1267,26746-27006-27436,00.html>

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From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 64-bit GCC ?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:03:07 -0400
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I don't think that just because Linux is running on a 64-bit chip means it is=
 running 64-bit binaries.
Remember the win-16/win-32 transition?  I didn't see anything that convinced =
me GCC is creating binary
code with 64-bit instructions on the GNU page.  I believe this work may be go=
ing on under a
non-disclosure agreement somewhere.  Oh well, we keep our ears to the ground.

Steve

lunaslide wrote:

> "Steven T. Hatton" wrote:
> >
> > I asked a few days ago if anybody knows of an effort to make GCC able to
> > compile 64-bit executables.  I didn't hear an answer.  I am asking this
> > question again because of something I just read by Linus in _Open
> > Sources_:*Voices from the Open Source Revolution*
> >
> > http://search.borders.com/fcgi-bin/db2www/search/search.d2w/De=
tails?>&mediaType=3DBook&prodID=3D51273228
> >
> > Basically he said the ability of Linux to port to 64-bit chips is
> > directly dependent on the ability of GCC to compile for 64-bit systems.
> >
> > Does anybody know?
>
> Actually, I did answer a few days ago.  Linux is available for Alpha,
> which is 64-bit, so gcc can produce 64-bit binaries.  How it does that
> is another question, because on the site it says: "GCC can generate
> a.out, COFF, ELF, & OSF-Rose files when used with a suitable assembler,"
> which seems to indicate that it depends on the assembler used with it.
>
> Head over to http://www.gnu.org/software/=
gcc/gcc.html> and read up.
>
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From nee@telekurs.com Thu Apr 22 01:07:53 1999
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:07:53 +0800
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I see lots of mail regarding GNOME. What is it ? If I am running KDE do
i need them ?


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From chuckwm_98@yahoo.com Thu Apr 22 02:13:07 1999
From: chuckwm_98@yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:13:07 -0700
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he won't...it only understands ppa...It will not
understand ascii or anything else...pbm2ppa is his
only choice that I know of...works fine though.

--- Ewan Dunbar  wrote:
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> On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Olszewski wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > The reason I jumped on this is I though the email
> was directed at me since I
> > was the only one listed on the To: line.  No
> offence taken.  Just frustrated
> > that I can't get my hardware to run under Linux.=20
> Although it's not Linux's
> > fault, it my modem and printer manufacturers
> faults.
>=20
> Hmm. An HP 722C. I don't think there is any such
> thing as a Winprinter --
> but I'd have to check into it. When you `cat >
> /dev/lp0` or lp1, depending
> on your hardware setup and your kernel, do you get
> any output?
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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 22 02:15:11 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] where is file that sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 04:15:11 +0200
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Rick Shapiro wrote:
>=20
> I am a newbe with SUSU Linux. and am using version 6.0 I am login in as root
> and am looking for the default files that set up the envionment. I understa=
nd
> there is a profile file in the /etc directory but there must be more files.
> Where can I find the file that is setting the PATH statement and LD_LIBRARY=
_PATH
> variable.

It's just that; /etc/profile.

Henning


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From fmiller@lightlink.com Thu Apr 22 02:46:30 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] High Court Upholds Law Banning 'Obscene' E-Mail
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:46:30 -0400
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This has NOTHING to do with Linux, but it's important news to many.

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From rms@njcc.com Thu Apr 22 02:49:56 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] where is file that sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:49:56 -0500
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I am a newbe with SUSU Linux. and am using version 6.0 I am login in as root
and am looking for the default files that set up the envionment. I understand
there is a profile file in the /etc directory but there must be more files.
Where can I find the file that is setting the PATH statement and LD_LIBRARY_P=
ATH
variable.

                Thank You

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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Thu Apr 22 03:00:21 1999
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Linux and PKI
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:00:21 -0400
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This is just a general FYI and, hopefully, conversation starter.  I
looked over a set of presentation slides from an MS tech rep that
discussed the Windows 2000 PKI strategy.  I've been working in the PKI
field for the last 2 years.  MS has produced some very impressive
slide-ware.  It is yet to be seen whether this will be translated into
reliable software before they release the HAL9000 in 2001.  I am aware
that the OSS community has many of the pieces of a full-featured PKI
solution, but I don't believe we have a strategy that is as complete and
comprehensive as what I saw from MS.   I'm wondering if any of the list
members here are working with aspects of PKI.   Is anybody using
OpenLDAP?  Has this been integrated into SaMBa?  Any opinions on this
subject?  I am extremely busy so I am not going to have time to address
this issue immediately, but this is, IMHO, VERY IMPORTANT to the future
of Linux!

Steve


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From jbingen@lava.net Thu Apr 22 03:31:51 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] HP722C printer help
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Hello,

I have an HP722C and am able to print (mono only).
The writer of the pbm2ppa driver says he is working
on color. This printer keeps its 'brain' in the
Windows drivers.

This was quite a struggle but was doable.
To get started checkout /usr/doc/packages/ppa

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From rcoprea@home.ro Thu Apr 22 03:38:35 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Question: how is it possible?
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I've just had a most terrifying experience. Trying to open an Ms Excel docume=
nt
with Staroffice 5.0 under KDE (SuSE 6.0), my computer, rock stable before, got
frozen. Ms Windows frozen like I mean... The only think he could recognize was
the reset button. I thought it was an accident. So after the cold reboot, I
tried again with the same document. The same thing happened: a message from
Staroffice, telling me that an error has occured and that my documents have
been saved. After that, only silence.
I rebooted again and this time, using YaST, I have changed susewm and startx
led me into fvwm2 (I thought may be KDE could have a bug). On this third time,
my computer died before even being able to deliver me an error message.

So, the error is reproductible. And it shouldn't froze no matter what. If I
would want to open a fish can with Staroffice and it shouldn't freeze my
system!!! Staroffice is hence really dangerous considering the type of access
he has to my computer's resources! How is it all this possible??

Razvan

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From jbodnar@tivoli.com Thu Apr 22 03:38:39 1999
From: jbodnar@tivoli.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] where is file that sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:38:39 -0500
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I believe it's /etc/ld.so.conf. Then you probably need to do 'ldconfig -v'.
See the ldconfig man page.

At 09:49 PM 4/21/99 -0500, Rick Shapiro wrote:
>
>I am a newbe with SUSU Linux. and am using version 6.0 I am login in as root
>and am looking for the default files that set up the envionment. I understand
>there is a profile file in the /etc directory but there must be more files.
>Where can I find the file that is setting the PATH statement and=20
>LD_LIBRARY_PATH
>variable.
>
>
>
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From fmiller@lightlink.com Thu Apr 22 03:49:49 1999
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I hope SuSE "takes notice."

Fred
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From fmiller@lightlink.com Thu Apr 22 03:52:57 1999
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:52:57 -0400
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Anyone looking for a VERY good deal on a BIG hard drive....take a gander here.

Fred
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From stevep@bash.linux-shell.net Thu Apr 22 03:59:18 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] linux-2.2.6 kernel compile notes
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Friends,

I'm running SuSE 6.0, kernel 2.2.6 on plain jane hardware.

The process to get a new kernel running usually is fairly easy, plus
it is fun, and IMHO, is one major feature/difference between MS os's
and the one true OS, linux. ;-) However, note that unless you need a
feature that the stock kernel omits, or other reasons such as security, or
just keeping up, you may not "need" to re-compile a kernel. =20

I found the key documents to read were the Kernel-HOWTO (available in
/usr/doc/howto/en/) and the /usr/src/linux/README file in your newly
untar'ed tree. Also helpful were the
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help

You should also read about lilo (chapter 4) and the kernel (chapter 13) in
the SuSE Linux 6.0 doc. In fact, you should read the entire doc asap.

I got my kernel sources from ftp.kernel.org, with the file to be ftp'ed=20
being /pub/linux/kernel/v2.2/linux-2.2.6.tar.gz. Of course, you can get a
patch there too.

Things I watch out for:
1. PPP must be selected during kernel config, IT IS OFF BY DEFAULT.
2. Under SuSE 6.0, kernel 2.2.*, the boot directory is /boot
3. Copy the new /usr/src/linux/System.map to /boot
4. Copy the new /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz or
something.
5. Make sure you have a bootable kernel setup in /etc/lilo.conf in case
your newly created kernel is sub-optimal. :-(
6. After doing step 3-5, BE SURE TO RE-RUN /sbin/lilo before you reboot.

I had started on a more complete document on how to compile a kernel under
SuSE linux, but decided it was a duplication of the very excellent
kernel-HOWTO, plus the fact I am no writer and mostly a linux novice.

However, here is the basic routine I use.=20
1.ftp down, uncompress, untar source so it is in /usr/src/linux-2.2.6,
with a symlink to /usr/src/linux. You might copy your old tree to
something like /usr/src/linux-2.0.36
# cd /usr/src/linux
# make menuconfig
...configure your kernel...
# make dep;make clean
# make bzImage;make modules;make modules_install
# cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot
# cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz
...fixup /etc/lilo so you have a fallback kernel and a stanza for the new
kernel...
# /sbin/lilo
...take a break, think about things you might have missed...
...fingers crossing about now...
# shutdown -r now
...your new kernel should come up now...
# uname -a
...should look something like:
Linux asimov 2.2.6 #2 Tue Apr 20 23:04:48 CDT 1999 i586 unknown

Now, before you break open champagne, test your internet connection, your
connection to other boxes on your lan, your sound, your zip drive, etc.
If something does not work, make sure you activated it in your kernel.

Before you flame me, I know there's more than one way to do just about
everything here, I admit I am no writer, and that I am a novice. Pls feel
free to add constructive criticism and clarification where needed. Pls let
me know if this worked for you, but if it doesn't, well...sorry! Re-read
the kernel howto, and check USENET for people who've had the same problem
as you.

HTH someone...

Steve.=20

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From Drow@Blazenet.net Thu Apr 22 03:59:24 1999
From: Drow@Blazenet.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Writable CD ROM
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:59:24 -0400
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Robert Copelan wrote:
>=20
> Does anyone know if SuSe Linux will support writable CD ROM drives? =20
Yes and quite a few.  Check out:

http://www.fh-muenchen.de/rz/xcdroast>


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http://www.msnbc.com/news/261116.asp>

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From robertc@mindspring.com Thu Apr 22 05:20:10 1999
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Does anyone know if SuSe Linux will support writable CD ROM drives?  Question
was asked=20
of me today by a co-worker. =20
Tnx,
Robert

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From cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl Thu Apr 22 05:21:46 1999
From: cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kppp connection to the Internet
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:21:46 +0200
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On Wed, Apr 21, 1999 at 05:04:33PM -0400, Ewan Dunbar wrote:
>> Although it's not Linux's fault, it my modem and printer manufacturers=20
>> faults.

> Hmm. An HP 722C. I don't think there is any such thing as a Winprinter --
> but I'd have to check into it. When you `cat > /dev/lp0` or lp1, depending
> on your hardware setup and your kernel, do you get any output?

Yep, there is such a thing as a brain-dead WinPrinter. It can only print
using the Windows GUI-routines i.e. only in graphics mode.

I know, my aunt had a HP printer -- I think it was a HP 722C -- and there
was no way to get it working under Dos or in text mode.

Cees.

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From cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl Thu Apr 22 05:24:06 1999
From: cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] GNOME
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:24:06 +0200
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On Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 09:07:53AM +0800, Emmanuel wrote:
> I see lots of mail regarding GNOME. What is it ? If I am running KDE do
> i need them ?

No. It's a replacement for KDE. Take a look at <http://www.gnome.org/>>.

Cees.

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From senthil@easi.soft.net Thu Apr 22 05:37:51 1999
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Hi,

I had configured LILO for dual boot between Linux and Win95. I had written
it in MBR. My linux is in /dev/hda5 (there are no hda3/hda4) and Win95 in
/dev/hda1. After installation of lilo, I get an error at Lilo promt as :

LILO: L

And it stops. It doesn't boot. Any suggestions. Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Senthil Vel


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From deem@wdm.com Thu Apr 22 05:57:36 1999
From: deem@wdm.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lilo problem
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I have copied some text from /usr/doc/packages/lilo/README for you.
Regards & read up.

-Dee

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
LILO start message
- - - - - - - - -

When LILO loads itself, it displays the word "LILO". Each letter is printed=20
before or after performing some specific action. If LILO fails at some=20
point, the letters printed so far can be used to identify the problem. This=20
is described in more detail in the technical overview.

Note that some hex digits may be inserted after the first "L" if a=20
transient disk problem occurs. Unless LILO stops at that point, generating=20
an endless stream of error codes, such hex digits do not indicate a severe=20
problem.

  ()  No part of LILO has been loaded. LILO either isn't installed=20
    or the partition on which its boot sector is located isn't active.=20
   L  ...   The first stage boot loader has been loaded and started,=20
    but it can't load the second stage boot loader. The two-digit error=20
    codes indicate the type of problem. (See also section "Disk error=20
    codes".) This condition usually indicates a media failure or a geometry=20
    mismatch (e.g. bad disk parameters, see section "Disk geometry").=20

etc.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
S K SENTHIL VEL  wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> I had configured LILO for dual boot between Linux and Win95. I had written
> it in MBR. My linux is in /dev/hda5 (there are no hda3/hda4) and Win95 in
> /dev/hda1. After installation of lilo, I get an error at Lilo promt as :
>=20
> LILO: L
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From gcambria@ar.ing.unisi.it Thu Apr 22 06:44:28 1999
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-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Robert Copelan 
A: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Data: gioved=C3=AC 22 aprile 1999 4.56
Oggetto: [SuSE Linux] Writable CD ROM

Does anyone know if SuSe Linux will support writable CD ROM drives?
Question
was asked
of me today by a co-worker.
Tnx,
Robert

Yes, Linux support CD writer. I own an old Philips CDD 2000 SCSI: it works
slowly (2x), but fine.
You need also a sw to write cd. I use XCDRoast, check at
http://www.fh-muenchen.de/rz/xcdroast>.

NanniX


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From dark@pluto.szikszi.hu Thu Apr 22 06:50:39 1999
From: dark@pluto.szikszi.hu
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lilo problem
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S K SENTHIL VEL wrote:
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> Hi,
>=20
> I had configured LILO for dual boot between Linux and Win95. I had written
> it in MBR. My linux is in /dev/hda5 (there are no hda3/hda4) and=20

Hello! Try reconfigure LILO as the follows:
Place LILO on the root partition of your linux (/dev/hda5), and
activate it. This method is recommended, when you are using
several operating systems on your machine. I assume itt will work.
Bye to all!

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Hi,

Thank you for your info., I think I have not set my linux partition
active. Currently my windows partition is active. I will try it out today
and let you know tommorrow.=20

Regards,
Senthil Vel

On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, W.D.McKinney wrote:=20

>=20
> I have copied some text from /usr/doc/packages/lilo/README for you.
> Regards & read up.
>=20
> -Dee
>=20
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> LILO start message
> - - - - - - - - -
>=20
> When LILO loads itself, it displays the word "LILO". Each letter is printed=
=20
> before or after performing some specific action. If LILO fails at some=20
> point, the letters printed so far can be used to identify the problem. This=
=20
> is described in more detail in the technical overview.
>=20
> Note that some hex digits may be inserted after the first "L" if a=20
> transient disk problem occurs. Unless LILO stops at that point, generating =

> an endless stream of error codes, such hex digits do not indicate a severe =

> problem.
>=20
>   ()  No part of LILO has been loaded. LILO either isn't installed=
=20
>     or the partition on which its boot sector is located isn't active.=20
>    L  ...   The first stage boot loader has been loaded and started,=
=20
>     but it can't load the second stage boot loader. The two-digit error=20
>     codes indicate the type of problem. (See also section "Disk error=20
>     codes".) This condition usually indicates a media failure or a geometry=
=20
>     mismatch (e.g. bad disk parameters, see section "Disk geometry").=20
>=20
> etc.
>=20
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> S K SENTHIL VEL  wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> > Hi,
> >=20
> > I had configured LILO for dual boot between Linux and Win95. I had written
> > it in MBR. My linux is in /dev/hda5 (there are no hda3/hda4) and Win95 in
> > /dev/hda1. After installation of lilo, I get an error at Lilo promt as :
> >=20
> > LILO: L
> >=20
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From marcel.donker@asml.nl Thu Apr 22 07:37:42 1999
From: marcel.donker@asml.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Soundblaster PCI64 setup problems
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:37:42 +0200
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Hi All,

After slowly but progressively trying to install SuSE 6.0 Linux onto my
Pentium II 400MHz, I finally got the thing up and running. There's even
(a little bit) room for a Win98/Linux dual boot on my harddisk with
LILO.

And now......., trying to comfigure my kernel and system to what I want
to have. The first thing I was trying to tackle is trying to setup my
Soundblaster PCI64 card. But this card is probably too new to be
standardly supported under SuSE 6.0. But, no panic, there is always the
4front OSS stuff.=20

Well, the free OSS stuff doesn't support the card. But the OSSdemo does.
But, and now it comes, I am not getting the damn thing to install onto
my box. According to the license agreement at the beginning of the
install-procedure it should be a 30-day trial version but when
installing the driver with 'soundon' it says that there is no license
agreement to be found!=20

So, is there anyone out there with a SB PCI64 up and running and how did
you do it?

Thanks in advance,

Marcel

BTW.: anyone out there who has tried to install StarOffice 5.0 but got
the wrong media key code? The key I've got in the box was the code for
the German version. I tried to install the english version (the only one
available on the CDROM's) but it won't swallow the key code.

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From mha@suse.de Thu Apr 22 07:40:19 1999
From: mha@suse.de
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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Glenn Wade wrote:

> I'm using imapd on my SuSE server.  It was apparently included among the
> mail programs, since I did not have to download it specifically.  It works
> well, except when I have more than 100 new messages.

You might want to try the Cyrus imapd (from Carnegie Mellon Univ.)
  http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/c=
yrus/cyrus.html>

I've just read a review of it, and it sounds good.


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From revans@e-z.net Thu Apr 22 07:44:43 1999
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This question was posted on the ntop mailing list. The answer doesn't fix the
problem. The ntop binary is owned by root so I believe /root is $HOME. Is
there something I am missing / don't understand?

Thank you
Russell   =20

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:03:38 +0200
Sender: owner-ntop(a)unipi.it
From: Cerqui Marco 
To: "ntop(a)unipi.it" 
Subject: No password necessary !

Hi

I have a problem with ntop. I'm using Suse Linux 6.0. When I configure the
rc.config so, that ntop starts automatically when  Linux boots, then when I
connect to the port on witch ntop works no password or username is
necessary. But the file .ntop in the home directory from the root exists.

Can you help me ?

Thanks

Marco

--------------End of forwarded message-------------------------

On 20-Apr-99 Luca Deri wrote:
> Marco,
> I'll soon release a fix that will allow users to put .ntop under several
> directories (not only under $HOME as it is today) such as /etc/ntop. For
> the time being, please make sure that you've put .ntop under $HOME as
> specified on rc.config.
>=20
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From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Thu Apr 22 07:54:52 1999
From: pkirk@enterprise-hr.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Format a partition as FAT - more info
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:54:52 +0100
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Hi all,

Thanks to Islandwolf and Lach for getting me this far.

I must change a partition to FAT to have 1.5 Gigs of files available when
the machine is booted into NT Server. Its an 8.5 Gig Maxtor IDE.  Changing
this partition to FAT is proving a steep learning curve as I don't know how
to work out what the partition numbers are.

Allow me to say that I think fdisk may be reading the filetype incorrectly.
hda1 is ntfs as is hda5 .  hda6 is mounted as /samba so I believe it to be
ext2 but fdisk doesn't agree calling it OS/2 HPFS.

My objective is to format /dev/hda6 as FAT, copy the backup onto it again,
reboot into NT, retrieve the Exchange Server priv.ebd I need, copy it to
/dev/hda6 and thus have it available via samba after I return to Linux.
Problem is, I need to know partition mumbers.

Difficult to say what my partition numbers are so let me quote the output of
p in fdisk:

The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1027.
This is larger than 1024, and may cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
   (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)

Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1027 cylinders
Units =3D cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot    Start      End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *         1      261  2096451    7  OS/2 HPFS
/dev/hda2           262     1023  6120765    5  Extended
/dev/hda5           262      522  2096451    7  OS/2 HPFS
/dev/hda6           523      783  2096451    7  OS/2 HPFS
/dev/hda7           784      792    72261   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda8           793     1023  1855476   83  Linux native

Oytput of t:
Command (m for help): t
Partition number (1-8):

Where is the partition number?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: root(a)flame.blaze.ca [ma=
ilto:root(a)flame.blaze.ca]On Behalf Of
> islandwolf
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 1999 18:11
> To: pkirk(a)enterprise-hr.com
> Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Format a partition as FAT
>
>
> Patrick Kirk wrote:
>
> > I tried that.  fdisk wants a partition number. How do I work that out?
>
> Well i'd recommend 3, but what are your partitions so far?
>
>
> > > t as in 'type'
>
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From samelash@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 22 08:21:24 1999
From: samelash@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Installing SuSE (6) on a machine with no CDROM
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:21:24 +0000
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I think it can be done , but that kind of connection is verry verry slowwww.

You might be beter of pulling the cdrom from your other machine and slaving
it to the one you want to install to. Then install the system , copy the
cds if you have room , then put it back.

I have had good luck with the cheap clone ATAPI cdroms , you can get them
as cheap as $40.00 . I have use three diffrent "clone" brands from the
compuor show , and all have worked fine using the standard kernal and
slaving to the hard drive. While your at it you can pick up some used coax
ethernet cards and a cable for 10 MB ethernet real cheap at most of these
shows , just make sure you get one that has jumpers or are of a major
vender so you can download the dos configuration program and configuration
information. then you can just network them together .=20

good luck

At 11:22 AM 4/21/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi, All -
>
>A related question: for a non-networked computer, would it be feasible to
>connect the computer to one that does have a cdrom via a null-modem cable,
and
>install SuSE that way? if so, how?
>
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From samelash@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 22 08:26:46 1999
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 Re: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] Installing SuSE (6) on a machine with no    CDROM
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:26:46 +0000
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ROLF !@$@#%

There is just somthing about getting the conection working , the screw driver=
=20
just doesent give any adrenalin rush.=20

>> wolfsong(a)blaze.ca writes:
>> >A related question: for a non-networked computer, would it be feasible to
>> >connect the computer to one that does have a cdrom via a null-modem
>> >cable, and
>> >install SuSE that way? if so, how?
>> Or you could just take the cd rom out  temporarily and plug it into the
>> one that doesn't have a cdrom and then install! =20
>
>I don't care how good you think you are with networks, a screwdriver would
>be the easiest and most effective route.  Okay, so maybe it's not a long-
>term solution, but it is final and almost gauranteed! :)
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From joshaugh@uk.oracle.com Thu Apr 22 08:27:25 1999
From: joshaugh@uk.oracle.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Installing SuSE (6) on a machine with no CDROM
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:27:25 +0000
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On 21 Apr 99 19:22:28 +0100, you wrote:

>
>Hi, All -
>
>A related question: for a non-networked computer, would it be feasible to
>connect the computer to one that does have a cdrom via a null-modem cable,
>and
>install SuSE that way? if so, how?

I've done my NFS install over the network - thanks to all the suggestions.

The manuals says you can do the above using parallel cables and NFS over
those.

Jamie

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From malcolmb@tibco.com Thu Apr 22 08:30:35 1999
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hda1 =3D> partition 1
hda2 =3D> partition 2

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From samelash@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 22 08:32:27 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey, And All That Stuff!
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I disagree , the os is tied into the hardware. I have found a ton of
information that turned out to be realy usefull just lurking. Yegh the list
has a realu big volume of messages , I tend to just d\skip / delete what
doesent intrest me.

Its all a part of hacking linux=20

>>   I have similar symptoms with a Pentium 100.  Takes forever to boot,
>>   clocks around 49 BOGOMIPS.  You're not alone.
>
>Well, none of this belongs on a Linux mailing list, at any rate. Maybe
>someone should start a mailing list where people who have bad hardware can
>go talk about their griefs.
>
>------------------------------------------------
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From andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk Thu Apr 22 08:55:27 1999
From: andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey, And All That Stuff!
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:55:27 +0100
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Don't know whether anyone's answered your question yet but I would ask how
much memory you've got. You need about 32Mb to get reasonable performance
with X in my experience.

rgds
Andy
andy(a)mcrentals.demon.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Snape 
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date: 21 April 1999 17:05
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey, And All That Stuff!

>
>
>Well, I checked the bogomips displayed upon bootup,
>and was AMAZED (to say the least) to see that I am
>getting 29.2!!!!!!!!! (many more exclamation points!).
> I tried changing the bios settings, so that it was
>DE-TURBO on bootup, and then turning turbo on after
>bootup, and also the other way around (turbo on
>bootup), and it didnt change.  Now I know damned well
>that the system is a P60, as it says right on the chip
>first of all, and secondly, the SuSE bootdisk reads
>the CPU as a 586.  So, suffice to say, there's
>something SERIOUSLY wonky about this.  The cpu's not
>in backwards or anything :), as its not possible (only
>fits in one way), but I was wondering if upon taking
>it out, I might have bent a pin or something (which I
>highly doubt, but thought to check), and that might be
>affecting it!!!
>
>Honestly, the system is running SO slow, that it takes
>nearly 5 minutes to start up X, thats getting the
>server running, then starting up FVWM2.
>
>Which brings me to my other questions, which I'll just
>post publicly anyways :)
>
>Thanx, And Any Help Is Appreciated!
>
>Keith Snape
>
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From grimmer@suse.de Thu Apr 22 09:00:40 1999
From: grimmer@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Installing SuSE (6) on a machine with no CDROM
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:00:40 +0200
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Hi,

On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, islandwolf wrote:

> A related question: for a non-networked computer, would it be feasible
> to connect the computer to one that does have a cdrom via a null-modem
> cable, and install SuSE that way? if so, how?

Yes, you can use a parallel port cable (aka "Laplink-cable") and use
NFS or ftp via a PLIP-Interface...

It's not fast, but it works.

Bye,
        LenZ


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From jljr@globalfrontiers.com Thu Apr 22 09:19:46 1999
From: jljr@globalfrontiers.com
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:19:46 -0400
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My login name and password is different than my user name
for my news server. Where do I put this login and
password. I found information list in rc.config, but did
not see any references to nntp server login and
passwords.

thanks in advance

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From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Thu Apr 22 10:03:36 1999
From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Question: how is it possible?
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:03:36 +0100
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On 22-Apr-99 Razvan Cristian Oprea wrote:>=20
>=20
> I've just had a most terrifying experience. Trying to open an Ms Excel
> document with Staroffice 5.0 under KDE (SuSE 6.0), my computer, rock
> stable before, got frozen. Ms Windows frozen like I mean... The only
> think he could recognize was the reset button. I thought it was an
> accident. So after the cold reboot, I tried again with the same
> document. The same thing happened: a message from Staroffice, telling
> me that an error has occured and that my documents have been saved.
> After that, only silence.
> [snip]
> Staroffice is hence really dangerous considering the type of
> access he has to my computer's resources! How is it all this possible??

This looks as though it may not be so much StarOffice freezing the whole
system, as freezing X.

This can also happen with some other applications.[1] When it happens,
mouse and keyboard input to X is impossible, so you can't even switch to
a text console. Nevertheless, the system itself is working, and provided
you have some way to communicate with it which bypasses X you can close
down the running applications and X, and start them again, without having
to even re-boot let alone press the reset button.

Even a serial-port connection to another computer (ancient UNIX style,
and the other computer could be that CP/M museum piece in the back room)
is enough in this case: just log in from the other computer, become root,
and clean up. Naturally, network connection also works.

Of course it may be that you really have frozen the whole system and
nothing whatever will rescue you ... but I think you should try the option
above before coming to that conclusion.

Good luck,
Ted.

[1] WordPerfect-7 used to do it to me. WP-8 seems to be fine, though.

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From lpruf@stud.ee.ethz.ch Thu Apr 22 10:11:19 1999
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:11:19 +0200
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Hi out there

Using SuSE 6.0, I should implement a Multithreaded program. When trying
to build the program using=20
gcc ... -lpthread ...
I receive about ten errors such as

/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_rewinddir'
                                                       readdir_r
                                                       opendir

.....

does anyone know how to overcome this problem ??? Is there in SuSE 6.0
the appropriate libc 6.x installed ?=20

Thanks a lot.

Kind Regards,=09

Lukas


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From Drow@Blazenet.net Thu Apr 22 11:35:00 1999
From: Drow@Blazenet.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lilo problem
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:35:00 -0400
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Timar Peter wrote:
>=20
> S K SENTHIL VEL wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I had configured LILO for dual boot between Linux and Win95. I had written
> > it in MBR. My linux is in /dev/hda5 (there are no hda3/hda4) and
>=20
> Hello! Try reconfigure LILO as the follows:
> Place LILO on the root partition of your linux (/dev/hda5), and
> activate it. This method is recommended, when you are using
> several operating systems on your machine. I assume itt will work.
> Bye to all!
> --

I don't think you can activate a logical drive within an extended
partition, only the extended partition.  I wouldn't do that.  I think
your problem may be that you have the "linear" option enabled in your
lilo config in yast.  Disable this option and reconfigure and you should
be ok!


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From imagicra@azstarnet.com Thu Apr 22 12:35:24 1999
From: imagicra@azstarnet.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Soundblaster PCI64 setup problems
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:35:24 -0700
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OSS should be supported- i have an SB64
on an i586 and these are my steps.  Hope
this helps.

 1) install oss through yast or rpm.
 2) build a kernel without  sound card support.
 3) open xterm or root while in root...type:
    cd /tmp/osslinux-3.7.1z=20
 4) press enter and type:
    ./osslinux.runme
 5) press enter and type:
    soundon

Marcel Donker wrote:
>=20
> Hi All,
>=20
> After slowly but progressively trying to install SuSE 6.0 Linux onto my
> Pentium II 400MHz, I finally got the thing up and running. There's even
> (a little bit) room for a Win98/Linux dual boot on my harddisk with
> LILO.
>=20
> And now......., trying to comfigure my kernel and system to what I want
> to have. The first thing I was trying to tackle is trying to setup my
> Soundblaster PCI64 card. But this card is probably too new to be
> standardly supported under SuSE 6.0. But, no panic, there is always the
> 4front OSS stuff.
>=20
> Well, the free OSS stuff doesn't support the card. But the OSSdemo does.
> But, and now it comes, I am not getting the damn thing to install onto
> my box. According to the license agreement at the beginning of the
> install-procedure it should be a 30-day trial version but when
> installing the driver with 'soundon' it says that there is no license
> agreement to be found!
>=20
> So, is there anyone out there with a SB PCI64 up and running and how did
> you do it?
>=20
> Thanks in advance,
>=20
> Marcel
>=20
> BTW.: anyone out there who has tried to install StarOffice 5.0 but got
> the wrong media key code? The key I've got in the box was the code for
> the German version. I tried to install the english version (the only one
> available on the CDROM's) but it won't swallow the key code.
> --
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From j.vermeulen@hot.A2000.nl Thu Apr 22 12:53:26 1999
From: j.vermeulen@hot.A2000.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Question: how is it possible?
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:53:26 +0200
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Razvan Cristian Oprea wrote:

> Staroffice is hence really dangerous considering the type of access
> he has to my computer's resources! How is it all this possible??

Aren't you jumping to conclusions here?

IMNSHO you should submit the file to the StarOffice people telling them
what happened. There is no doubt in my mind they will do all the
checking and testing needed to get that bug (which may be Excell's own!)
out of the way.

JV

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From lunaslide@pacbell.net Thu Apr 22 12:53:59 1999
From: lunaslide@pacbell.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Question: how is it possible?
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:53:59 -0700
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"(Ted Harding)" wrote:
>=20
> On 22-Apr-99 Razvan Cristian Oprea wrote:>
> >
> > I've just had a most terrifying experience. Trying to open an Ms Excel
> > document with Staroffice 5.0 under KDE (SuSE 6.0), my computer, rock
> > stable before, got frozen. Ms Windows frozen like I mean... The only
> > think he could recognize was the reset button. I thought it was an
> > accident. So after the cold reboot, I tried again with the same
> > document. The same thing happened: a message from Staroffice, telling
> > me that an error has occured and that my documents have been saved.
> > After that, only silence.
> > [snip]
> > Staroffice is hence really dangerous considering the type of
> > access he has to my computer's resources! How is it all this possible??
>=20
> This looks as though it may not be so much StarOffice freezing the whole
> system, as freezing X.
>=20
> This can also happen with some other applications.[1] When it happens,
> mouse and keyboard input to X is impossible, so you can't even switch to
> a text console. Nevertheless, the system itself is working, and provided
> you have some way to communicate with it which bypasses X you can close
> down the running applications and X, and start them again, without having
> to even re-boot let alone press the reset button.
>=20
> Even a serial-port connection to another computer (ancient UNIX style,
> and the other computer could be that CP/M museum piece in the back room)
> is enough in this case: just log in from the other computer, become root,
> and clean up. Naturally, network connection also works.
>=20
> Of course it may be that you really have frozen the whole system and
> nothing whatever will rescue you ... but I think you should try the option
> above before coming to that conclusion.

I know this isn't very feasible for most, but you can telnet into the
machine and kill all that stuff that's freezing the system.  This is
what I do.  Another alternative is to pick up an old serial based dumd
terminial and have that working off your machine.  I like this because I
can direct the console to it and watch what's going on.


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From imm@KidsCare.Net Thu Apr 22 13:54:26 1999
From: imm@KidsCare.Net
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] linux on dell poweredge 2300
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:54:26 -0500
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Soon I will be given the opportunity to install linux on a Dell Poweredge
2300.(vacuum cleaner )
The only problem I see right now is it has scsi hotswapable harddrives.
Has anyone installed linux on such a machine?
Any info much appreciated.
Thanks,
Ian
=20


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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 22 14:31:38 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] where is file that sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:31:38 +0200
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Jason Bodnar wrote:
>=20
> I believe it's /etc/ld.so.conf. Then you probably need to do 'ldconfig -v'.
> See the ldconfig man page.

The dynamic loader/linker ld.so gets its information from ld.so.cache
which is set up by ldsoconfig using ld.so.conf.

Additionally the LD_LIBRARY_PATH and LD_PRELOAD variables can be used
to change the normal behaviour. The first of these specifies one or
more directories, the second one or more Libraries.

LD_LIBRARY_PATH is searched before ld.so.cache and the first match
wins.=20

As an example SuSE's netscape wrapper script uses this technique.

Henning


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From snapek@yahoo.com Thu Apr 22 14:47:59 1999
From: snapek@yahoo.com
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] bogoMIPS!
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:47:59 -0700
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Okay, I have yet to append my system speed.  When I
attempted different forms of bootup last nite, I was
AMAZED (to say the least) to discover that its not
26.3 bogoMIPS that I am getting, but rather !!!! 2.63
!!!! with bootdisk, and 1.75 from cdrom (32x)!! so
either this is normal for a bootdisk/cdrom, or my
computer is completely and utterly
"fragged"..............

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From maccer98_@yahoo.com Thu Apr 22 14:58:31 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] IP Chains/MASQ Guru needed
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:58:31 -0700
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Hi all

I have a SUSE linux box running 2.2.6 with ipchains/MASQ running. I
have within /etc/rc.config
in the Firewall & Masqeurading sections the proper items (all are not
included below)
FW_START=3D"yes"
FW_LOCALNETS=3D"192.168.0.0/24 24.112.x.x "
FW_INT_DEV=3D"eth1"
FW_WORLD_DEV=3D"eth0"
FW_ROUTER=3D""
FW_FRIENDS=3D"yes"
FW_INOUT=3D"yes"
MSQ_START=3D"yes"
MSQ_NETWORKS=3D"192.168.0.0/24"
MSQ_DEV=3D"eth0"
MSQ_MODULES=3D"ip_masq_cuseeme ip_masq_ftp etc"
******************************************************
and /etc/fw-friends contains the said  reserved class C clients:=20
192.168.0.1
192.168.0.2
192.168.0.3
/sbin/init.d/masquerade status returns:
IP masquerading entries

ipchains -L returns:
Chain input (policy ACCEPT):
Chain forward (policy ACCEPT):
target prot opt source  destination   ports
user_msq all --- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere  n/a
Chain output (policy ACCEPT):
Chain user_msq (1 references):
target prot opt source destination  ports
MASQ all ------  anywhere  anywhere   n/a
*******************************************************=20

On internal network with Linux box with two NICs that show via
ifconfig:

lo Link encap:Local Loopback =20
inet addr:127.0.0.1  Bcast:0.0.0.0  Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
RX packets:8040 errors:65 dropped:0 overruns:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:8040

dummy Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet addr:24.112.x.x  Bcast:24.112.43.255  Mask:255.255.252.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0

eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet  HWaddr=20
 00:80:C8:E6:52:59
inet addr:24.112.x.x  Bcast:24.112.43.255  Mask:255.255.252.0
00:80:C8:E6:52:59
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:22484 dropped:0 overruns:0
TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:55550
Interrupt:9 Base address:0xd000=20

eth1      Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet  HWaddr 00:80:C8:E6:38:70
inet addr:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:540
Interrupt:3 Base address:0xb800=20
*******************************************************
Finally route -n returns:

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
24.112.x.x 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0    0  0  dummy
192.168.0.0 " "    255.255.255.0   U  0    0  0  eth1
24.112.x.0  " "    255.255.252.0   U  0    0  0  eth0
24.112.x.0  " "    "    "   "  "   U  0    0  0  dummy
24.112.x.0  " "    "    "   "  "   U  0    0  0  eth0
127.0.0.1   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0      U  0    0  0  lo
0.0.0.0     24.112.x.1  0.0.0.0    UG 0    0  0 eth0                  =20
     =20
=20

I cant see why one cannot ping an internal client
(e.g. win95 with TCP IP set as 192.168.0.2/255.255.255.0 and gateway as
192.168.0.0/192.168.0.1 or gateways set singularly), or ping from
client to linux box.
This on on baseT ethernet and hub/cables work under NT.
Any recommendations and/or ideas as to what is causing this problem
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanx for your time
Mac

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From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 22 15:02:23 1999
From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: README no longer mentions symlinks for includes
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:02:23 +0200
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these things should never have been included in the README. They
have finally been removed for good reason.

glibc has its own headers _and_ needs them.
The kernel comes with its own headers _and_ needs them.

Don't deal with these things unless you really know
what you are doing

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From Gerrit_Abma@rps.raet.nl Thu Apr 22 15:10:22 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Logitech Wheelmouse
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:10:22 +0100
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Does anyone know if a Logitech Wheelmouse can be
used in Linux. I can get it to work just fine as a
normal PS2-mouse, but I want to use the
wheel-function.

Gerrit

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From ksaj@xoommail.com Thu Apr 22 15:21:33 1999
From: ksaj@xoommail.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast!
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:21:33 -0700
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My machine says 799 bogomips for its 400Mhz CPU.

If you are on a Pentium 100, that means your bogomips is somewhere around hal=
f=20
the processor speed.  Mine is double the processor speed.  Why is there so mu=
ch=20
variance between your 53.25 bm rating and my 799 bm rating?

It would seem that my computer does nothing four times more efficiently than =

yours...

  Karsten

Juergen Braukmann wrote:
 >=20
 > Ewan Dunbar wrote:
 > >=20
 > > On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Steve Crane wrote:
 > >=20
 > > >
 > > > On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 09:00:44PM -0500, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > When I checked now the bogomips rating is 53.25, so the turbo appears =
to
 > > > have made a significant difference.  Or is it normal for the bogomips =
to
 > > > vary so much on the same processor?
 > >=20
 > > Nope. Must've been the turbo. I suppose I can gloat about this machine n=
ow
 > > that I realise how fast it is, comparatively. 49.87 bogomips is pretty
 > > good for a 486.
 > >=20
 >=20
 > You can compare bogomips only within the same processor family. You
 > can=C3=BFt compare a 50 bogomips on a 486 with 50 bogomips on a Pentium. B=
ut
 > it=C3=BFs a goot measure to check speed gained by altering jumpers or turbo
 > switches etc.
 >=20
 > Juergen
 >=20
 > --=20
 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: README no longer mentions symlinks for includes
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:11:34 +0200
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hhv wrote:
>=20
> these things should never have been included in the README. They
> ...

Sorry, wrong list
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From andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk Thu Apr 22 16:31:23 1999
From: andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Tape device
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:31:23 +0100
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Which device do I have to use from '/dev' with tar and mt if I have an
Exabyte Eagle TR3?

TIA
andy
andy(a)mcrentals.demon.co.uk


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From martin@gisser.de Thu Apr 22 16:31:28 1999
From: martin@gisser.de
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Question: how is it possible?
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:31:28 +0000
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(sorry, I forgot to put this on the list)
Martin Gisser wrote:
>=20
> Razvan Cristian Oprea wrote:
> >
> > I've just had a most terrifying experience. Trying to open an Ms Excel do=
cument
> > with Staroffice 5.0 under KDE (SuSE 6.0), my computer, rock stable before=
, got
> > frozen. Ms Windows frozen like I mean... The only think he could recogniz=
e was
> > the reset button. I thought it was an accident. So after the cold reboot,=
 I
> > tried again with the same document. The same thing happened: a message fr=
om
> > Staroffice, telling me that an error has occured and that my documents ha=
ve
> > been saved. After that, only silence.
> > I rebooted again and this time, using YaST, I have changed susewm and sta=
rtx
> > led me into fvwm2 (I thought may be KDE could have a bug). On this third =
time,
> > my computer died before even being able to deliver me an error message.
> >
> > So, the error is reproductible. And it shouldn't froze no matter what. If=
 I
> > would want to open a fish can with Staroffice and it shouldn't freeze my
> > system!!! Staroffice is hence really dangerous considering the type of ac=
cess
> > he has to my computer's resources! How is it all this possible??
> >
>=20
> Have you tried to start Staroffice from an xterm?
>=20
> I had such a problem with Gimp.  Since then, when I want to do some special=
 image
> processing, I start Gimp from an xterm.  And when this Gimp bug happens, I =
get
> something like "division by zero, abort [y/n]?" on the xterm.  Then I just =
type n
> and on it goes...
>=20
> :-)
>    Martin

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From mezger@surfree.com Thu Apr 22 16:50:43 1999
From: mezger@surfree.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Logitech Wheelmouse
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:50:43 -0400
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, you wrote:
> Does anyone know if a Logitech Wheelmouse can be
> used in Linux. I can get it to work just fine as a
> normal PS2-mouse, but I want to use the
> wheel-function.
>=20
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hope this helps,
rimez

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From linux1@federal.crc.com Thu Apr 22 17:00:41 1999
From: linux1@federal.crc.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] 6.1 broke printing!
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:00:41 -0400
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I have a win 98 machine with an hp550c printer on it.  With SuSe 6.0, I used
YaST to configure a printer via SAMBA
to print to the printer.  It worked great.  I reinstalled with 6.1, did the
same thing with Yast, and now I get nothing.

What changed in 6.1?  What needs to be done different?


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From Andy@nerds.co.uk Thu Apr 22 17:32:20 1999
From: Andy@nerds.co.uk
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Registering Star office
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:32:20 +0100
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I think this has been asked before but how do I register Star office
if my Internet connection is non on my Linux machine? Will the
registered version with 6.0 expire? if so when?


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From karl.stas@rug.ac.be Thu Apr 22 17:41:30 1999
From: karl.stas@rug.ac.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Soundblaster PCI64 setup problems
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:41:30 +0200
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> So, is there anyone out there with a SB PCI64 up and running and how did
> you do it?
>
Just install a 2.2.4 or higher kernel: the Ensonic chipsets 1370 and 1371
are supported now. Of course, if your SB 64PCI card has another chipset on
it (Es 1373 for example), then you'll probably have to wait a while untill
the kernel has support for it (allthough I don't really know what has
changed in the soundcard support of later kernels than 2.2.4). My PCI64 card
(with ES 1370) works fine anyhow. :-)

Karl


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From jerdfelt@suse.com Thu Apr 22 17:53:04 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] threads programming
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:53:04 -0700
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On Thu, Apr 22, 1999, Lukas Ruf  wrote:
>=20
> Hi out there
>=20
> Using SuSE 6.0, I should implement a Multithreaded program. When trying
> to build the program using=20
> gcc ... -lpthread ...
> I receive about ten errors such as
>=20
> /usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_rewinddir'
>                                                        readdir_r
>                                                        opendir
>=20
> .....
>=20
> does anyone know how to overcome this problem ??? Is there in SuSE 6.0
> the appropriate libc 6.x installed ?=20

I believe you need to compile everything with -D_REENTRANT as well. Have
you tried that?

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From roth@bsag.ch Thu Apr 22 18:02:16 1999
From: roth@bsag.ch
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] 5.3: NFS Server hangs
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:02:16 +0200
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Hello,

we have an NFS Server running Suse 5.3.
I had a 6.0 client mounting NFS drives from the Server.
When shuttting down the 6.0 client it couldn't unmount the NFS drives.
After that the server coudn't export any more NFS drives and=20
showmount timed out.
This was solved only after the 6.0 client was rebooted with the old 5.3
and thereafter the server.

Where is the information of current exported drives stored?
Is there something like /etc/mnttab?

Is this behaviour better in Suse 6.0 or 6.1?

-Hanspeter

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From lpruf@stud.ee.ethz.ch Thu Apr 22 18:13:25 1999
From: lpruf@stud.ee.ethz.ch
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] threads programming
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:13:25 +0200
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Johannes Erdfelt wrote:

> >=20
> > /usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_rewinddir'
> >                                                        readdir_r
> >                                                        opendir
> >=20
> > .....
> >=20
> > does anyone know how to overcome this problem ??? Is there in SuSE 6.0
> > the appropriate libc 6.x installed ?=20
>=20
> I believe you need to compile everything with -D_REENTRANT as well. Have
> you tried that?
>=20
Yes, I did !

Anyother Ideas ?

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From roth@bsag.ch Thu Apr 22 18:14:52 1999
From: roth@bsag.ch
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] No network locking
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:14:52 +0200
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Hello,

we have a NFS Server on Suse 5.3 and Solaris Clients.
When Solaris mounts NFS drives from Suse it complains: No network locking on =
nfsserver.

Is there a loging manager available that can run wish Suse NFS?

What may happen if Solaris can't find the locking manager?

-Hanspeter

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From richwill@innotts.co.uk Thu Apr 22 18:15:23 1999
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Hi all,
Let me explain my situation:

I am a teacher in an Inner City school in Nottingham, England.  We can get
just enough money (10K GBP)from a company for 30 PCs - and it _must_ be
spent on 30 PCs.  With this money we can't afford software, and I am
contemplating running SuSE with KDE on these machines.  This will be running
from an NT4 server (sorry!).

I am a newbie of a few months with Linux and don't really know the
intricacies of getting Linux to happily talk with NTFS partitions etc.
Could anyone recommend a good book explaining:
NTFS issues
Tying in with NT security
Desktop security
Printer networking
etc.

I realise that It's a bit odd having Linux running off an NT server, but
what the hell!  It's this or nothing.  Anyway, I fancy a challenge :)

regards
Richard WIlliamson


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From lpruf@stud.ee.ethz.ch Thu Apr 22 18:15:57 1999
From: lpruf@stud.ee.ethz.ch
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Johannes Erdfelt wrote:

> > Using SuSE 6.0, I should implement a Multithreaded program. When trying
> > to build the program using=20
> > gcc ... -lpthread ...
> > I receive about ten errors such as
> >=20
> > /usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_rewinddir'
> >                                                        readdir_r
> >                                                        opendir
> >=20
> > .....
> >=20
> > does anyone know how to overcome this problem ??? Is there in SuSE 6.0
> > the appropriate libc 6.x installed ?=20
>=20
> I believe you need to compile everything with -D_REENTRANT as well. Have
> you tried that?
>=20
Arg. sorry, I was too fast before. I tried compiling all my programs
with -D_REENTRANT, but for sure not the whole library libc.6. I do not
know if you meant that !?=20

Lukas

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From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Thu Apr 22 18:16:40 1999
From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 5.3: NFS Server hangs
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Hi,

On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Hanspeter Roth Bsag wrote:
> we have an NFS Server running Suse 5.3.
> I had a 6.0 client mounting NFS drives from the Server.
> When shuttting down the 6.0 client it couldn't unmount the NFS drives.
> After that the server coudn't export any more NFS drives and=20
> showmount timed out.
> This was solved only after the 6.0 client was rebooted with the old 5.3
> and thereafter the server.
>=20
> Where is the information of current exported drives stored?
> Is there something like /etc/mnttab?

/etc/exports


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From jerdfelt@suse.com Thu Apr 22 18:19:14 1999
From: jerdfelt@suse.com
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On Thu, Apr 22, 1999, Lukas Ruf  wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Johannes Erdfelt wrote:
>=20
> > >=20
> > > /usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_rewinddir'
> > >                                                        readdir_r
> > >                                                        opendir
> > >=20
> > > .....
> > >=20
> > > does anyone know how to overcome this problem ??? Is there in SuSE 6.0
> > > the appropriate libc 6.x installed ?=20
> >=20
> > I believe you need to compile everything with -D_REENTRANT as well. Have
> > you tried that?
> >=20
> Yes, I did !
>=20
> Anyother Ideas ?

That is a good question then, could you show me the complete command
line you use?

I know pthreads work fine since I compile pthreads programs everyday
without any problems.

JE


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From jerdfelt@suse.com Thu Apr 22 18:20:21 1999
From: jerdfelt@suse.com
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On Thu, Apr 22, 1999, Lukas Ruf  wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Johannes Erdfelt wrote:
>=20
> > > Using SuSE 6.0, I should implement a Multithreaded program. When trying
> > > to build the program using=20
> > > gcc ... -lpthread ...
> > > I receive about ten errors such as
> > >=20
> > > /usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_rewinddir'
> > >                                                        readdir_r
> > >                                                        opendir
> > >=20
> > > .....
> > >=20
> > > does anyone know how to overcome this problem ??? Is there in SuSE 6.0
> > > the appropriate libc 6.x installed ?=20
> >=20
> > I believe you need to compile everything with -D_REENTRANT as well. Have
> > you tried that?
> >=20
> Arg. sorry, I was too fast before. I tried compiling all my programs
> with -D_REENTRANT, but for sure not the whole library libc.6. I do not
> know if you meant that !?=20

Well, libc should already be compiled that way. You should only need to
do that for your programs.

JE


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From lpruf@stud.ee.ethz.ch Thu Apr 22 18:27:18 1999
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Johannes Erdfelt wrote:
(cut off all before)
>=20
> That is a good question then, could you show me the complete command
> line you use?
>
Volontierment:
....
gcc -c   -DWITHLOG  -DLinux_OS -D_REENTRANT -I.. -o Logger.o Logger.cc
gcc -c   -DWITHLOG  -DLinux_OS -D_REENTRANT -I.. -o Market.o Market.cc
gcc -c   -DWITHLOG  -DLinux_OS -D_REENTRANT -I.. -o Matcher.o Matcher.cc
gcc -c   -DWITHLOG  -DLinux_OS -D_REENTRANT -I.. -o Mutex.o Mutex.cc
....
gcc  -lpthread -I.. -o Market.Linux ../Log.o ../Lock.o ../Time.o
../Net.o ../Crc.o ../Buffer.o ../BuffLog.o ../Error.o ../Global.o
../Daemonize.o ../GenericList.o ../PacketLog.o Logger.o Market.o
Matcher.o Mutex.o Receiver.o Sender.o
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: the `gets' function is dangerous and should not
be used.
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_rewinddir'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_readdir_r'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_opendir'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_seekdir'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_readdir'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_telldir'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `_IO_perror'
make: *** [Market.Linux] Error 1
=20
> I know pthreads work fine since I compile pthreads programs everyday
> without any problems.
> The same code compiled on Sun Solaris does not make any problems...

Lukas


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From WALKERSC@CIBC.CA Thu Apr 22 18:37:00 1999
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     Ok, Well... I suggest check out the howto's on=20
     http://www.linuxhq.com/howto> I believe it is. They expla=
in a GOOD=20
     chunk of whatcha want to know. any others questions you have I would=20
     be gald to help you out.

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Hi all,
Let me explain my situation:
    =20
I am a teacher in an Inner City school in Nottingham, England.  We can get=20
just enough money (10K GBP)from a company for 30 PCs - and it _must_ be
spent=20
on 30 PCs.  With this money we can't afford software, and I am contemplating

running SuSE with KDE on these machines.  This will be running from an NT4=20
server (sorry!).
    =20
I am a newbie of a few months with Linux and don't really know the=20
intricacies of getting Linux to happily talk with NTFS partitions etc.=20
Could anyone recommend a good book explaining:
NTFS issues
Tying in with NT security
Desktop security
Printer networking
etc.
    =20
I realise that It's a bit odd having Linux running off an NT server, but=20
what the hell!  It's this or nothing.  Anyway, I fancy a challenge :)
    =20
regards
Richard WIlliamson
    =20

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From mezger@surfree.com Thu Apr 22 19:26:18 1999
From: mezger@surfree.com
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Soundblaster PCI64 setup problems
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:26:18 -0400
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When you are configuring the kernel it tells you how to distinguish between a
1370 and 1371 chipset (just press help on the 137x settings). For my sound
blaster PCI64 I use the 1371 chipset. You need a newer kernel to compile it
into the kernel (i.e. 2.2.x).=20
rimez

On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, you wrote:
> > So, is there anyone out there with a SB PCI64 up and running and how did
> > you do it?
> >
> Just install a 2.2.4 or higher kernel: the Ensonic chipsets 1370 and 1371
> are supported now. Of course, if your SB 64PCI card has another chipset on
> it (Es 1373 for example), then you'll probably have to wait a while untill
> the kernel has support for it (allthough I don't really know what has
> changed in the soundcard support of later kernels than 2.2.4). My PCI64 card
> (with ES 1370) works fine anyhow. :-)
>=20
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From linux1@federal.crc.com Thu Apr 22 19:27:51 1999
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Applixware 4.4.1 and SuSE 6.1
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:27:51 -0400
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Ok, I have my nice new SuSE 6.1 up and running.  Other then a printing
problem (samba printing seems broken)
it all looks ok.  I go to my old SuSE Office cds, go to cd2, under
special/redhat_5x/applix and install applixware 4.4.1.  But when I go to
start it gives an error saying it cant load shared library lib.c.so.5 or
something like that.  It is
looking for libc5 libraries.  So, where are the glibc versions of applixware
4.4.1?  The docs said the Redhat_5 directory where suppose to be glibc.

Any help appreciated.  I have a manual I need to get to!


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From drew@adapco.com Thu Apr 22 20:02:32 1999
From: drew@adapco.com
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alexm wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Hanspeter Roth Bsag wrote:
> > we have an NFS Server running Suse 5.3.
> > I had a 6.0 client mounting NFS drives from the Server.
> > When shuttting down the 6.0 client it couldn't unmount the NFS drives.
> > After that the server coudn't export any more NFS drives and
> > showmount timed out.
> > This was solved only after the 6.0 client was rebooted with the old 5.3
> > and thereafter the server.
> >
> > Where is the information of current exported drives stored?
> > Is there something like /etc/mnttab?
>=20
> /etc/exports

actually /etc/rmtab shows who is mounting the filesystems.
/etc/exports shows what the machine is exporting for NFS mounts.
Depends on what your looking for??

Drew

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From risch@tir.com Thu Apr 22 20:50:37 1999
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:50:37 -0400
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Check the SuSE page, there is a link to an article on the 2.2.5 kernel,
which I'd guess will tell you most of what is there.

Regards,

Bob

aaa wrote:
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>     I want to know what new features in kernels 2.2.6
> than 2.0.36?
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From pkirk@enterprise-hr.com Thu Apr 22 20:56:10 1999
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:56:10 +0100
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IMO, the best books are by M$ Press and involve the word running as in
Running NT Server, etc.

Patrick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On
> Behalf Of Richard Williamson
> Sent: Thursday, 22 April 1999 19:15
> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Subject: [SuSE Linux] Books
>
>
>
> Hi all,
> Let me explain my situation:
>
> I am a teacher in an Inner City school in Nottingham, England.  We can get
> just enough money (10K GBP)from a company for 30 PCs - and it _must_ be
> spent on 30 PCs.  With this money we can't afford software, and I am
> contemplating running SuSE with KDE on these machines.  This will
> be running
> from an NT4 server (sorry!).
>
> I am a newbie of a few months with Linux and don't really know the
> intricacies of getting Linux to happily talk with NTFS partitions etc.
> Could anyone recommend a good book explaining:
> NTFS issues
> Tying in with NT security
> Desktop security
> Printer networking
> etc.
>
> I realise that It's a bit odd having Linux running off an NT server, but
> what the hell!  It's this or nothing.  Anyway, I fancy a challenge :)
>
> regards
> Richard WIlliamson
>
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From ksaj@xoommail.com Thu Apr 22 21:11:16 1999
From: ksaj@xoommail.com
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast!
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:11:16 -0700
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"Yates, Larry" wrote:
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 > Maybe bogomips are BOGUS!

Heheh, you know when Linux boots, and it primes the random number generator? =
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Maybe *that's* a bogomip, too.  :)

I'm gonna do a bit of research to see what is actually counted in a bogomip. =
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There seem to be extreme variations from one machine to another.

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From northsky@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 22 21:43:45 1999
From: northsky@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast!
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:43:45 -0400
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Karsten Johansson wrote:

>=20
> "Yates, Larry" wrote:
>  >=20
>  > Maybe bogomips are BOGUS!
>=20
> Heheh, you know when Linux boots, and it primes the random number generator=
? =20
> Maybe *that's* a bogomip, too.  :)
>=20
> I'm gonna do a bit of research to see what is actually counted in a bogomip=
. =20
> There seem to be extreme variations from one machine to another.

It's quite simple, really. Calculating MIPS, millions of instructions per
second, is a way of determining CPU speed. It isn't a very good one --
not for comparing processors anyway -- and the way that the kernel
determines it isn't very good either. Hence, it is a measurement of =20
"Bogo"-MIPS. There are extreme variations, but the algorithm isn't
changing. Therefore, a Pentium 100 which runs at 2 BogoMIPS is bad.

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From hoog@zeelandnet.nl Thu Apr 22 21:49:09 1999
From: hoog@zeelandnet.nl
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] libkfm.so.1 not found after K upgrade
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:49:09 +0200
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Hi..
Today I have upgraded my Suse 6.0 system = with=20 kde 1.0 to kde 1.1
It was quite a mess during the upgrade pr= ocess=20 (rpm complaining about version mismatches).
KDE boots normally and everthing seems ok= ay, but=20 a lot of programs I use, like ksamba and kimon, are complaining that they=20 cannout find libkfm.so.1
I linked libkfm.so.2 to libkfm.so.1 and d= id the=20 same with the others that ksambe complained about, but now I get an error tha= t=20 some function cannot be resolved when I start ksamba.
Can anyone help?
Vincent
--===============8819767325794075388==-- From jerdfelt@suse.com Thu Apr 22 22:09:06 1999 From: jerdfelt@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:09:06 -0700 Message-ID: <19990422150906.F10319@suse.com> In-Reply-To: <199904222111.OAA10937@www2.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8379886633608517725==" --===============8379886633608517725== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 22, 1999, Karsten Johansson wrote: >=20 > "Yates, Larry" wrote: > >=20 > > Maybe bogomips are BOGUS! >=20 > Heheh, you know when Linux boots, and it primes the random number generator= ? =20 > Maybe *that's* a bogomip, too. :) >=20 > I'm gonna do a bit of research to see what is actually counted in a bogomip= . =20 > There seem to be extreme variations from one machine to another. No need. It's how fast the machine can do an idle loop. The reason for the variations are because of the architecture of newer cpu's and how they execute multiple instuctions in one clock cycle. Older Pentiums took 1 clock cycle per instruction (2 instructions per loop) so the bogomips would be half the clock speed. Pentium Pro's (IIRC) could do 2 instructions per cycle, so they could do the whole loop in one clock cycle. Bogomips were the same as the clock speed. Newer CPU's like the K6 and Pentium 2/3 can do 4 instructions per clock cycle in some circustances. So it can do the whole loop twice in one clock cycle. Bogomips were twice the clock speed. There's FAQ out there explaining it in much greater detail, but suffice to say, Bogomips are NOT a good measure of processor speed. They are only used to time idle loops to wait for I/O, etc. JE -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at
<= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8379886633608517725==-- From james.frentress@itmship.com Thu Apr 22 22:09:13 1999 From: james.frentress@itmship.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] sendmail Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:09:13 -0700 Message-ID: <0201A2FF6FCBD2119B1E00609776E7A303538E@exchgsrv.itmship.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3717580090729310723==" --===============3717580090729310723== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable what configuration entry must i make for my mail server to receive mail sent to a domain (without the host name). my server receives mail just fine like this: James.Frentress(a)gg.qamonline.com but not like this: James.Frentress(a)qamonline.com our domain is hosted at our isp and it is redirecting requests (mx) from qamonline.com to gg.qamonline.com but mail sent without gg. gets bounced. i was told i need to make an entry in sendmail.cf but i'm clueless as to what the entry needs to be. thanks -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3717580090729310723==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Thu Apr 22 22:09:43 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:09:43 -0700 Message-ID: <371F9E27.4BF2A489@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <199904221521.IAA23957@www2.xoommail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6955212219659515926==" --===============6955212219659515926== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Karsten Johansson wrote: >=20 > My machine says 799 bogomips for its 400Mhz CPU. >=20 > If you are on a Pentium 100, that means your bogomips is somewhere around h= alf > the processor speed. Mine is double the processor speed. Why is there so = much > variance between your 53.25 bm rating and my 799 bm rating? >=20 > It would seem that my computer does nothing four times more efficiently than > yours... Read the bogomips mini-howto included with SuSE for more info. --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * =20 Was there no communication in this car. Had we deteriorated to =20 the level of dumb beasts? * * -Hunter S. Thompson * =20 * * * * * -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6955212219659515926==-- From robf@asduk.com Thu Apr 22 22:21:56 1999 From: robf@asduk.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WinChip C6 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:21:56 +0100 Message-ID: <01be8d0e$88490d20$0100007f@localhost> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] WinChip C6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4967409988431709347==" --===============4967409988431709347== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I ran SuSE 5.2 on my C6 for a while and it was NOT happy... RH 5.2 ran clean as a whistle... SuSE 6.0 now runs clean as a whistle on my C6. It's nice to see that WINChip isn't the same as WINModem... a C6 is perfectly healthy with the latest releases of the Kernel. Meanwhile, back on my other Windows PC, my other C6 blew up. I am still to be convinced as to the reliability of these chips! Rob -----Original Message----- From: Jon Pennington To: Andy(a)nerds.co.uk ; suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: 21 April 1999 19:49 Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WinChip C6 > >It's the equivalent to a P55C or a Pentuim MMX. Let me know how this all turns out, I have always wondered how a C6 does running Linux... > >-=3D|JP|=3D- > >On Wed, 21 April 1999, "Andy Thomson" wrote: >> >> When I compile the kernal what is the equiverlent of a IDC WinChip C6, >> is it the same as a Pentium I or II? I know its socket seven, if that >> helps ... >> -- >> h= ttp://www.nerds.co.uk> The place for computer enthusiasts >> Andy Thomson _ >> High Wycombe, Bucks. /_\ >> / | \ >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4967409988431709347==-- From ttwkam@yahoo.com Thu Apr 22 22:38:37 1999 From: ttwkam@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] problem upgrading from 2.0.36 -> 2.2.5 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:38:37 -0700 Message-ID: <19990422223837.11627.rocketmail@web601.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0765028213014007187==" --===============0765028213014007187== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone help? Just compiled the 2.2.5 kernel and ran lilo. On reboot, it complains that it fails to mount root filesystem. I traced and found that the kernel didn't probe for my Adaptec Aha-152x SCSI adapter. I double checked the kernel setup -- SCSI disk support was activated and low level driver aha-152x was also compiled into the kernel. The SCSI card's IRQ, addresses were also correct. I looked at SuSE's database for help but can't found anything useful. Anyone? =3D=3D=3D Regards, Ted _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0765028213014007187==-- From cloud9@frontier.net Thu Apr 22 23:06:13 1999 From: cloud9@frontier.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sendmail Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:06:13 -0600 Message-ID: <003001be8d14$b8199820$228d2dc7@frontier.net> In-Reply-To: <0201A2FF6FCBD2119B1E00609776E7A303538E@exchgsrv.itmship.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5268181398196046736==" --===============5268181398196046736== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is what I had in my sendmail.cf ....snip ################## # local info # ################## Cwlocalhost Fw/etc/sendmail.cw .........snip This is what I setup in my sendmail.cw -------------snip------------------ mail.ondrugz.com ondrugz.com zaire.ondrugz.com ebola.ondrugz.com -------------snip--------------- This makes it accept mail directed to all of these aliases.. it works great for me tell me how it works for you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Frentress To: Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 4:09 PM Subject: [SuSE Linux] sendmail > > what configuration entry must i make for my mail server to receive mail sent > to a domain (without the host name). > > my server receives mail just fine like this: > > James.Frentress(a)gg.qamonline.com > > but not like this: > > James.Frentress(a)qamonline.com > > our domain is hosted at our isp and it is redirecting requests (mx) from > qamonline.com to gg.qamonline.com but mail sent without gg. gets bounced. i > was told i need to make an entry in sendmail.cf but i'm clueless as to what > the entry needs to be. > > thanks > > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5268181398196046736==-- From jpenn@planetdirect.com Thu Apr 22 23:28:55 1999 From: jpenn@planetdirect.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Video question.... Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:28:55 -0700 Message-ID: <19990422232855.19187.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Video question....> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2973971405134284915==" --===============2973971405134284915== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 22 April 1999, "Germano Rizzo" wrote: >=20 > >I've got a Banshee. > ouch! I think it's only supported through a patch... check the patch > section of SuSE web site... There was a thread about this a > week ago, but I didn't follow it... I've got no banshee... but I remember > the guy was quite disappointed... Do you still need help for kernel? Write > me exacly what you need, and maybe I could be of some use... the filesystem > problem doesn't sound related to the kernel, IMHO... > Mano :) >=20 > ---------------------------------- > Germano Rizzo - g.rizzo(a)usa.net > http://members.xoom.com/germano> > webmaster of > http://members.xoom.com/ACSpinea> > Linux Registered User N=C2=B0 114445 > Official Linux KDE Doc. Translator > PLUTO member - www.pluto.linux.it > ---------------------------------- Heh, heh; It's kind of embarassing, but here's my story... I got a generic 2.2.5 tarball from ftp.us.kernel.org, and installed it. Under SuSE 6.0 Official, the kernel would panic when it tried to mount /. I got frustrated, wiped the disk, and installed my SuSE 6.0 ("Evaluation") CD-ROM from Linuxmall. Using the "Sorta Burned" copy of SuSE's ftp site, I installed all of the available packages that were listed at the kernel 2.2 changes FAQ. The kernel I built subsequently works. For those of you who are already lost, I ditched the real deal for a=20 "not-so-official" installation source. It's like I said above, the Linuxmall CD is basically the SuSE ftp site burned onto a disk, made bootable, and silk-screened with a Linuxmall logo. They cost $1.89 US, and are worth every penny to somebody like me. So far, the kernel is good, and all of the applications are stable AFAIK except for two *important* exceptions: PPPd and GPM. My version of PPPd is already 2.3.5, as listed on the k2.2 changes page, and I *think* my GPM settings are good, too. I do seem to remember that I disabled lots of mouse options when I was configuring the kernel, but I left standard serial devices as part of the kernel, and my mouse is on ttys0. I'm gonna go home tonight and set up a new config file, just in case I screwed some- thing up royally. It keeps saying that pppd died unexpectedly and that my gpm arguments are invalid. We'll see... As far as video, I don't plan on running any "patches" or "beta" servers on my system (I actually saw a video card start smoking once when the guy setting it up used the wrong server [!]). I'll be running a frame buffer for safety's sake, as soon as I get the latest XFree86. I've got the FB set up in the kernel, and the only thing left is to master LILO's settings to change video modes (plus, I here that there's a little Tux that greets you on boot [!] in svga mode). -=3D|JP|=3D- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2973971405134284915==-- From ttwkam@yahoo.com Thu Apr 22 23:48:52 1999 From: ttwkam@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sendmail Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:48:52 -0700 Message-ID: <19990422234852.24184.rocketmail@web605.yahoomail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] sendmail> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3025402379785649514==" --===============3025402379785649514== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable put these in you sendmail.cf Fw/etc/sendmail.cw Djqamonline.com create a file '/etc/sendmail.cw', which contains all the aliases for your machine endmail.cw should look like this... qamonline.com gg.qamonline.com=09 Ted --- Jim Frentress wrote: >=20 > what configuration entry must i make for my mail > server to receive mail sent > to a domain (without the host name). >=20 > my server receives mail just fine like this: >=20 > James.Frentress(a)gg.qamonline.com >=20 > but not like this: >=20 > James.Frentress(a)qamonline.com >=20 > our domain is hosted at our isp and it is > redirecting requests (mx) from > qamonline.com to gg.qamonline.com but mail sent > without gg. gets bounced. i > was told i need to make an entry in sendmail.cf but > i'm clueless as to what > the entry needs to be. >=20 > thanks >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to > majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > archive at > http://www.= suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 =3D=3D=3D Regards, Ted _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3025402379785649514==-- From n3hpz@erols.com Thu Apr 22 23:49:44 1999 From: n3hpz@erols.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 and HP Office Jet 500 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:49:44 -0400 Message-ID: <99042219550100.01090@kitchen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2219157941778101992==" --===============2219157941778101992== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm trying to use an Office Jet 500 printer, using the deskjet 500 printer configuration in SuSE 6.0. Seems that, without anything in the printer queue (checked with lpq), it spits out reams of paper with garbage on it (and ghostscript is installed). Sometimes I can stop this by reinstalling a printer driver (with YaST). When this happens, it seems to print OK, but lately, I just can't stop this garbage printing to get anything useful printed---I have to reboot into win98 (ugh), which makes it tough to print PostScript.. Any suggestions? Jim -- Jim and Barbara Fay=20 n3hpz(a)erols.com=20 http://www.erols.com/n3hpz> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2219157941778101992==-- From james.frentress@itmship.com Thu Apr 22 23:49:49 1999 From: james.frentress@itmship.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] sendmail Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:49:49 -0700 Message-ID: <0201A2FF6FCBD2119B1E00609776E7A3035392@exchgsrv.itmship.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] sendmail> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1670409594595905656==" --===============1670409594595905656== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks Ted and Daniel, your directions worked. > -----Original Message----- > From: T Kam [SMTP:ttwkam(a)yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 4:49 PM > To: Jim Frentress; suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sendmail >=20 > put these in you sendmail.cf >=20 > Fw/etc/sendmail.cw > Djqamonline.com >=20 > create a file '/etc/sendmail.cw', which contains all the aliases for > your machine >=20 > sendmail.cw should look like this... >=20 > qamonline.com > gg.qamonline.com=09 >=20 > Ted >=20 > --- Jim Frentress wrote: > >=20 > > what configuration entry must i make for my mail > > server to receive mail sent > > to a domain (without the host name). > >=20 > > my server receives mail just fine like this: > >=20 > > James.Frentress(a)gg.qamonline.com > >=20 > > but not like this: > >=20 > > James.Frentress(a)qamonline.com > >=20 > > our domain is hosted at our isp and it is > > redirecting requests (mx) from > > qamonline.com to gg.qamonline.com but mail sent > > without gg. gets bounced. i > > was told i need to make an entry in sendmail.cf but > > i'm clueless as to what > > the entry needs to be. > >=20 > > thanks > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to > > majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> a= nd the > > archive at > > http://ww= w.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D > Regards, > Ted > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1670409594595905656==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Thu Apr 22 23:56:03 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Logitech Wheelmouse Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:56:03 +0200 Message-ID: <371FB713.FA673B21@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <99042212521500.00929@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3449009640219068567==" --===============3449009640219068567== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rimez wrote: >=20 > On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, you wrote: > > Does anyone know if a Logitech Wheelmouse can be > > used in Linux. I can get it to work just fine as a > > normal PS2-mouse, but I want to use the > > wheel-function. > > > > Gerrit > > -- > http://www.linuxhq.com/patch/21-p0691.h= tml> > http://www.inria.fr/k= oala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/> The first thing is not a good Idea. presumably de doesn't have a 2.1.x kernel. The mouse-wheel-scroll site is pretty nice. It would be good to get a newer gpm release. The one provided by Suse is pretty old. The URL for gpm is; ftp://animal.unipv.it/pub/gpm/> There's also the imwheel package, which also provides a newer (and patched?) version of gpm. The URL: http://solaris1.mysolution.com/= ~jcatki/imwheel/> Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3449009640219068567==-- From paulf@quillandmouse.com Fri Apr 23 00:24:00 1999 From: paulf@quillandmouse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:24:00 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <371E9C5D.6FADCBCC@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6832621489734855570==" --===============6832621489734855570== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote: >=20 > I hope SuSE "takes notice." >=20 Well, this nice GUI install is nifty for the Microsofties out there, but I really would prefer to have my console based install instead. Paul Foster -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6832621489734855570==-- From james.frentress@itmship.com Fri Apr 23 00:29:04 1999 From: james.frentress@itmship.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] telnet use of yast Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:29:04 -0700 Message-ID: <0201A2FF6FCBD2119B1E00609776E7A3035394@exchgsrv.itmship.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7392840934522233046==" --===============7392840934522233046== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yast is a very good tool for quickie configuration but i have trouble with display over telnet. is there a way to run yast over telnet and get a better display? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7392840934522233046==-- From james.frentress@itmship.com Fri Apr 23 00:30:08 1999 From: james.frentress@itmship.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] secure shell - ssh Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:30:08 -0700 Message-ID: <0201A2FF6FCBD2119B1E00609776E7A3035395@exchgsrv.itmship.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6952430151548257335==" --===============6952430151548257335== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable anyone using a good secure shell on suse? let me know where i can get it. tia jim -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6952430151548257335==-- From stevep@bash.linux-shell.net Fri Apr 23 01:43:48 1999 From: stevep@bash.linux-shell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Video question.... Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:43:48 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Video question....> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2174152151876410345==" --===============2174152151876410345== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jon, [ ... ] > So far, the kernel is good, and all of the applications are stable AFAIK > except for two *important* exceptions: PPPd and GPM. My version of PPPd > is already 2.3.5, as listed on the k2.2 changes page, and I *think* my GPM > settings are good, too. I do seem to remember that I disabled lots of > mouse options when I was configuring the kernel, but I left standard > serial devices as part of the kernel, and my mouse is on ttys0. I'm gonna > go home tonight and set up a new config file, just in case I screwed some- > thing up royally. It keeps saying that pppd died unexpectedly and that > my gpm arguments are invalid. We'll see... When I did not activate PPP in the kernel, I got the exact same message! PPP is off by default, which is odd, IMO. [ ... ] teve. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2174152151876410345==-- From alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net Fri Apr 23 02:44:17 1999 From: alexm@quake.tx.symbio.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] telnet use of yast Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:44:17 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0201A2FF6FCBD2119B1E00609776E7A3035394@exchgsrv.itmship.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5303795917458322127==" --===============5303795917458322127== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jim Frentress wrote: > yast is a very good tool for quickie configuration but i have trouble with > display over telnet. is there a way to run yast over telnet and get a better > display? You need to export TERM. I noticed linux usually sets it to "linux" which is usually "unknown" when telnetting from another machine type. e.g. for bash (ksh): # export TERM=3Dxterm or vt100 (can't use color and function keys though), or dtterm for CDE -alexm -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5303795917458322127==-- From alex@physical36.chem.ufl.edu Fri Apr 23 03:31:57 1999 From: alex@physical36.chem.ufl.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] telnet use of yast Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:31:57 -0400 Message-ID: <199904230332.XAA32091@physical36.chem.ufl.edu> In-Reply-To: <0201A2FF6FCBD2119B1E00609776E7A3035394@exchgsrv.itmship.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3199519437597104812==" --===============3199519437597104812== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22 Apr, Jim Frentress wrote: >=20 > yast is a very good tool for quickie configuration but i have trouble with > display over telnet. is there a way to run yast over telnet and get a better > display? > -- Jim: I usually open an xterm from an ssh session for this. Works fine for me. The same can be done via telnet so long as the DISPLAY variable and the local xhost file entry has been set correctly. Hope this helps, Alex. --=20 Dr. Alexander Angerhofer Associate Professor of Chemistry Department of Chemistry The University of Florida Box 117200 Gainesville, FL 32611-7200 USA Tel.: (+1) 352 846 3281 alt.: (+1) 352 392 9489 lab : (+1) 352 846 3283 FAX : (+1) 352 392 0872 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3199519437597104812==-- From seanmcgrath@worldnet.att.net Fri Apr 23 04:51:29 1999 From: seanmcgrath@worldnet.att.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Diamond MX300 support in Linux? Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:51:29 -0400 Message-ID: <001501be8d45$01064300$b7d34e0c@bigboy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0235998817028086536==" --===============0235998817028086536== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have the new awesome Diamond MX300 sound card with A3D = 2.0=20 support ... works great for games like Half-Life, Unreal, etc. but I=20 haven't been able to figure out how Linux (Suse 6.0) to utilize this card. =20 Does anyone know how to get this card to work or know i= f=20 support will eventually become available?
Thanks
--===============0235998817028086536==-- From senthil@easi.soft.net Fri Apr 23 05:00:50 1999 From: senthil@easi.soft.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SiS Card Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:30:50 +0530 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5327341056998572832==" --===============5327341056998572832== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, In one of my friends system, he has got a Silicon Integrated Systems Video card. By using SuperProbe command, I got the following information :=20 Silicon Integrated systems(chipset unknown) PCI probed Signature data:6(please report) Mem : 0 kbytes Ramdac : generic 8-bit pseduo-colordac with 6-bit wide lookup tables(or in 6-bit mode) I am not able to configure this card using 'xfree86'. He has Linux 5.1 with 2.0.33 kernel installed. I want to know what selection I should do in 'xfree86' to get this working. Thank you all in advance. Regards, Senthil Vel -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5327341056998572832==-- From senthil@easi.soft.net Fri Apr 23 05:05:16 1999 From: senthil@easi.soft.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Lilo problem] Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:35:16 +0530 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3980747631386796917==" --===============3980747631386796917== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

Thank you Aduanne Carter / Dee . Now my Lilo works fine. Well, I removed
the Linear option and reconfigured Lilo.

Thank you once again.

Regards,
Senthil vel
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Timar Peter wrote:
>=20
> S K SENTHIL VEL wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I had configured LILO for dual boot between Linux and Win95. I had written
> > it in MBR. My linux is in /dev/hda5 (there are no hda3/hda4) and
>=20
> Hello! Try reconfigure LILO as the follows:
> Place LILO on the root partition of your linux (/dev/hda5), and
> activate it. This method is recommended, when you are using
> several operating systems on your machine. I assume itt will work.
> Bye to all!
> --

I don't think you can activate a logical drive within an extended
partition, only the extended partition.  I wouldn't do that.  I think
your problem may be that you have the "linear" option enabled in your
lilo config in yast.  Disable this option and reconfigure and you should
be ok!


--=20
Aduanne Carter
Drow(a)Blazenet.net / TrueDrow(a)Netscape.net

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--===============3980747631386796917==-- From Mike.Pugh@ALDERLEY.zeneca.com Fri Apr 23 08:28:34 1999 From: Mike.Pugh@ALDERLEY.zeneca.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Applixware 4.4.1 and SuSE 6.1 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:28:34 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Applixware 4.4.1 and SuSE 6.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3238325208752794337==" --===============3238325208752794337== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Linux1, Did you load the libstdc++.so.2.8 as well? ee http://www.suse.d= e/Support/sdb_e/applix_suse60.html> for details. HTH, =20 Mike. > ---------- > From: Linux1[SMTP:linux1(a)federal.crc.com] > Sent: 22 April 1999 20:27 > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: [SuSE Linux] Applixware 4.4.1 and SuSE 6.1 >=20 >=20 > Ok, I have my nice new SuSE 6.1 up and running. Other then a printing > problem (samba printing seems broken) > it all looks ok. I go to my old SuSE Office cds, go to cd2, under > special/redhat_5x/applix and install applixware 4.4.1. But when I go to > start it gives an error saying it cant load shared library lib.c.so.5 or > something like that. It is > looking for libc5 libraries. So, where are the glibc versions of > applixware > 4.4.1? The docs said the Redhat_5 directory where suppose to be glibc. >=20 > Any help appreciated. I have a manual I need to get to! >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3238325208752794337==-- From im@hem.passagen.se Fri Apr 23 08:53:24 1999 From: im@hem.passagen.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SiS Card Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:53:24 +0200 Message-ID: <37203504.41324F25@hem.passagen.se> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1074311094542616692==" --===============1074311094542616692== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right me if I'm wrong, but SuperProbe is not detecting your card ok... Try to find the relevant info somwhere else... You need: Video mem, Chipset Ramdac (if used) Dotclock. And eventual modes it supports... It was a while since i used the X setup... Try "sax" and see if it probes the card better... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1074311094542616692==-- From andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 23 09:18:53 1999 From: andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast! Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:18:53 +0100 Message-ID: <006f01be8d6a$67fdf920$1701a8c0@andy.mcr.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast!> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7599599925530260881==" --===============7599599925530260881== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Further to lunaslide's messages here is an excerpt from my SuSE v6.0 mini BogoMips howto:-- >From a initiative by Ian Jackson, ijackson(a)nyx.cs.du.edu, and Przemek Klosowski, much updated and expanded by Wim van Dorst for current data, as listed below: As a very approximate guide, the BogoMips can be calculated by: System BogoMips Comparison Intel 8088 clock * (0.004 plusminus 0.001) 0.02 Intel/AMD 386SX clock * (0.14 plusminus 0.01) 0.8 Intel/AMD 386DX clock * (0.18 plusminus 0.01) 1 (definition) Motorola 68030 clock * (0.25 plusminus 0.005) 1.4 Cyrix/IBM 486 clock * (0.34 plusminus 0.065) 1.8 Intel Pentium clock * (0.40 plusminus 0.035) 2.2 Intel 486/AMD 5x86 clock * (0.50 plusminus 0.01) 2.8 Mips R4000/R4400 clock * (0.50 plusminus 0.015) 2.3 Nexgen Nx586 clock * (0.75 plusminus 0.010) 4.2 PowerPC 601 clock * (0.84 plusminus 0.015) 4.7 Alpha (all CPUs) clock * (0.99 plusminus 0.005) 5.5 Intel Pentium Pro clock * (0.99 plusminus 0.005) 5.5 Cyrix 5x86/6x86 clock * (1.00 plusminus 0.005) 5.6 etc. etc. My Intel Pentium 100 clocks at 35.84 BogoMips, i.e. 100 * (0.4 +- .035) This value, BogoMips, (or 'Bogus Million instruction per second' rating), is only used as a timing loop for programs that need accurate timing for which the clock runs too quickly. Rgds Andy andy(a)mcrentals.demon.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: lunaslide To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: 23 April 1999 01:02 Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lame Donkey Looks Fast! > >Karsten Johansson wrote: >> >> My machine says 799 bogomips for its 400Mhz CPU. >> >> If you are on a Pentium 100, that means your bogomips is somewhere around half >> the processor speed. Mine is double the processor speed. Why is there so much >> variance between your 53.25 bm rating and my 799 bm rating? >> >> It would seem that my computer does nothing four times more efficiently than >> yours... > >Read the bogomips mini-howto included with SuSE for more info. > >-- >lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 > * * * * * >Was there no communication in this car. Had we deteriorated to >the level of dumb beasts? * * -Hunter S. Thompson * > * * * * * >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7599599925530260881==-- From henrique@ifi.unicamp.br Fri Apr 23 09:35:46 1999 From: henrique@ifi.unicamp.br To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] secure shell - ssh Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:35:46 +0000 Message-ID: <37203EF2.446A4307@ifi.unicamp.br> In-Reply-To: <0201A2FF6FCBD2119B1E00609776E7A3035395@exchgsrv.itmship.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6869091092411280651==" --===============6869091092411280651== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim Frentress wrote: >=20 > anyone using a good secure shell on suse? let me know where i can get it. >=20 You can get ssh.rpm from ftp://ftp.gwdg.de> Bye Henrique -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6869091092411280651==-- From roth@bsag.ch Fri Apr 23 10:26:09 1999 From: roth@bsag.ch To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 5.3: NFS Server hangs Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:26:09 +0200 Message-ID: <99Apr23.122550gmt+0200.27778@gateway.bsag.ch> In-Reply-To: <371F8058.4533D1A1@adapco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0404482730810960453==" --===============0404482730810960453== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 10:02:32PM +0200, Drew Weirhousky wrote: >=20 > actually /etc/rmtab shows who is mounting the filesystems. This is what I was looking for. Thanks. -Hanspeter -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0404482730810960453==-- From linux1@federal.crc.com Fri Apr 23 12:44:56 1999 From: linux1@federal.crc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Applixware 4.4.1 and SuSE 6.1 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:44:56 -0400 Message-ID: <003101be8d87$18756240$0100a8c0@punt> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0597799344375197712==" --===============0597799344375197712== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes. And again, it shouldn't be looking for libc5. That seems to the problem. I loaded the glibc version. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pugh Mike ML To: 'Linux1' Cc: Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 4:28 AM Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Applixware 4.4.1 and SuSE 6.1 > > Hi Linux1, > > Did you load the libstdc++.so.2.8 as well? > > see http://www.suse.= de/Support/sdb_e/applix_suse60.html> for details. > > HTH, > Mike. > > > ---------- > > From: Linux1[SMTP:linux1(a)federal.crc.com] > > Sent: 22 April 1999 20:27 > > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > Subject: [SuSE Linux] Applixware 4.4.1 and SuSE 6.1 > > > > > > Ok, I have my nice new SuSE 6.1 up and running. Other then a printing > > problem (samba printing seems broken) > > it all looks ok. I go to my old SuSE Office cds, go to cd2, under > > special/redhat_5x/applix and install applixware 4.4.1. But when I go to > > start it gives an error saying it cant load shared library lib.c.so.5 or > > something like that. It is > > looking for libc5 libraries. So, where are the glibc versions of > > applixware > > 4.4.1? The docs said the Redhat_5 directory where suppose to be glibc. > > > > Any help appreciated. I have a manual I need to get to! > > > > > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/S= upport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0597799344375197712==-- From roed@hem.utfors.se Fri Apr 23 13:10:54 1999 From: roed@hem.utfors.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Mitsumi LU005S Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:10:54 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7542322196252126567==" --===============7542322196252126567== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does S.u.S.E 6.1, still have support for my Mitsumi LU005S ? - * Linux - ett stabilare s=C3=A4tt att leva * - - * Linux - a more stabile way to live * - -- Mvh Rolf Edlund Tel:070-3049194 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7542322196252126567==-- From linux1@worldnet.att.net Fri Apr 23 13:34:42 1999 From: linux1@worldnet.att.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Figure out Applixware, now just lpr! Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:34:42 -0400 Message-ID: <372076F2.C0B2C2F1@worldnet.att.net> In-Reply-To: <37203EF2.446A4307@ifi.unicamp.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4064618722910620500==" --===============4064618722910620500== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Got the applixware problem figured out. Was removing the export line in applixware per the database! Ok, now if I can just get printing to work under 6.1! Again, I have another machine, Win98, that has a hp550c on it sharing it as HP550C. Under 6.0 I just went into YaST, did a network configuration, added a printer via SAMBA, put the ip and share name, and it all worked. Under 6.1 the same thing doesn't. The printer does nothing! Anyone have any ideas???????? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4064618722910620500==-- From mperry@basin.com Fri Apr 23 14:00:51 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Chicago Comdex Notes Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:00:51 -0700 Message-ID: <19990423070051.A330@basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4016917431985085527==" --===============4016917431985085527== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was at the Chicago comdex as an exhibitor right down the hall from SuSE and it was quite nice to see everyone there and I would have to say that the Linux pavillion was quite popular with folks. I found that people were quite interested in Linux in general and wanted to know what it offered, what it would do, and how it would relate to their existing networks. There was a lot of basic questions regarding the distributions and what each offered. Caldera demoed their new 2.2 graphical installer as part of the show. I missed Linus' speech since I did not arrive until after that.=20 Redhat showed a lot of desktops running 5.2 with gnome and enlightenment. =20 Since the chicago comdex was officially known as Windows World, I think the interest shown by vendors, admin and systems integrators, and other folks was quite nice. =20 I dont want to drone on about comdex but it was quite refreshing to see the level of energy and appeal that Linux was given there. Quite invigorating. --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com -------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4016917431985085527==-- From rol@mediasys.nl Fri Apr 23 14:05:43 1999 From: rol@mediasys.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] E-Tech PC56RVP modem problem Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:05:43 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5487407600967743304==" --===============5487407600967743304== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, In Suse 6.0, I am trying to use my modem, that is a E-Tech PC56RVP isa modem. The problem is that the modem does not react at all. I have used, isapnp, pppd, minicom. Used YAST to install it. Used setserial to set the correct port and irq. All these things did not work at all.... Does anyone have such a modem working under Linux? Greetings, Ren=C3=A9 Olsthoorn. rol(a)mediasys.nl -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5487407600967743304==-- From james.frentress@itmship.com Fri Apr 23 14:36:37 1999 From: james.frentress@itmship.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: No Subject Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:36:37 -0700 Message-ID: <0201A2FF6FCBD2119B1E00609776E7A3035399@exchgsrv.itmship.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0999912959911754916==" --===============0999912959911754916== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i use these commands to allow routing outside network 13.10.10.0 but i don't know the proper place to put these commands so on reboot they are applied. what file should i add these to (assuming i need the route start command -- it may already be somewhere)? ipfwadm -F -a accept -m -S 13.10.10.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 /sbin/init.d/route start thanks, jim -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0999912959911754916==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Fri Apr 23 16:13:13 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WinChip C6 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:13:13 +0200 Message-ID: <37209C19.ABDC6066@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <01be8d0e$88490d20$0100007f@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0324762960939503928==" --===============0324762960939503928== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I'm also running a C6 200 MHz. It runs perfectly. I'm using it in my sever, = i'm running samba on it and other experimental things. I have only 32 Mbytes of memory in it this slows the computer down quite a lot. It depends on what board you are using and all. I mean if you have an old boa= rd that doesn't have the 2.2 V setting for the K6 i would definitely choose for = the C6 or even better the winchip. But if i would have a 2.2 V setting i would choose for a K6 as it is also very cheap an is a real runner. That is if it's your first PC if it is like a experimental or a server that doesn't have a hi= gh load i'd might still choose for the C6 or winchip. I did in the case of my server / experimental system. I hope this helps. Regards, Joop Boonen. R S Fenwick wrote: > I ran SuSE 5.2 on my C6 for a while and it was NOT happy... RH 5.2 ran clean > as a whistle... SuSE 6.0 now runs clean as a whistle on my C6. > > It's nice to see that WINChip isn't the same as WINModem... a C6 is > perfectly healthy with the latest releases of the Kernel. > > Meanwhile, back on my other Windows PC, my other C6 blew up. I am still to > be convinced as to the reliability of these chips! > > Rob > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Pennington > To: Andy(a)nerds.co.uk ; suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > Date: 21 April 1999 19:49 > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WinChip C6 > > > > >It's the equivalent to a P55C or a Pentuim MMX. Let me know how this all > turns out, I have always wondered how a C6 does running Linux... > > > >-=3D|JP|=3D- > > > >On Wed, 21 April 1999, "Andy Thomson" wrote: > >> > >> When I compile the kernal what is the equiverlent of a IDC WinChip C6, > >> is it the same as a Pentium I or II? I know its socket seven, if that > >> helps ... > >> -- > >> http://www.nerds.co.uk> The place for computer enthusiasts > >> Andy Thomson _ > >> High Wycombe, Bucks. /_\ > >> / | \ > >-- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > >archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0324762960939503928==-- From cloud9@frontier.net Fri Apr 23 16:14:30 1999 From: cloud9@frontier.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] majordomo Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:14:30 -0600 Message-ID: <00ea01be8da4$5e1c0480$228d2dc7@frontier.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2173833761521311363==" --===============2173833761521311363== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can someone give me some help on installing majordomo? Thank you, -=3DDan Clemens=3D- ~ cloud9(a)frontier.net ~ - * Linux - ett stabilare s=C3=A4tt att leva * - (something profound about how linux rules and nt doesn't) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2173833761521311363==-- From ljackson@techlinks.com Fri Apr 23 16:18:09 1999 From: ljackson@techlinks.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: your mail Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:18:09 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0201A2FF6FCBD2119B1E00609776E7A3035399@exchgsrv.itmship.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1548174705911713272==" --===============1548174705911713272== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I put a similar statement like this in my /etc/rc.d/boot.local Lester Jackson (Seattle, WA) On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Jim Frentress wrote: >=20 > i use these commands to allow routing outside network 13.10.10.0 but i don't > know the proper place to put these commands so on reboot they are applied. > what file should i add these to (assuming i need the route start command -- > it may already be somewhere)? >=20 > ipfwadm -F -a accept -m -S 13.10.10.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 > /sbin/init.d/route start >=20 >=20 > thanks, >=20 > jim >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1548174705911713272==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Fri Apr 23 16:34:18 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WinChip C6 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:34:18 +0200 Message-ID: <3720A10A.406EE14C@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <01be8d0e$88490d20$0100007f@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5116181670574258628==" --===============5116181670574258628== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I'm also running a C6 200 MHz. It runs perfectly. I'm using it in my sever, i'm running samba on it and other experimental things. I have only 32 Mbytes of memory in it this slows the computer down quite a lot. It depends on what board you are using and all. I mean if you have an old board that doesn't have the 2.2 V setting for the K6 i would definitely choose for the C6 or even better the winchip. But if i would have a 2.2 V setting i would choose for a K6 as it is also very cheap an is a real runner. That is if it's your first PC if it is like a experimental or a server that doesn't have a high load i'd might still choose for the C6 or winchip. I did in the case of my server / experimental system. By the way i'm using a IBM 6x86 (Cyrix this is for my cable modem masquerading computer with apache server sendmail DNS etc) Than a (C6 as server with samba, apache server, xfree with windowmaker, sendmail, DNS etc) Than my third one this is the one i use most. It mainly runs Windows :-( as i need it for school. I will soon also run Linux again, i didn't have time to put it on the computer anyway this one is using a K6-2 it's quite fast to my feeling it's much faster than my computer at work which is a PII 233MHz with IDE HD, mine has UW SCSI) I hope this helps. Regards, Joop Boonen. R S Fenwick wrote: > I ran SuSE 5.2 on my C6 for a while and it was NOT happy... RH 5.2 ran clean > as a whistle... SuSE 6.0 now runs clean as a whistle on my C6. > > It's nice to see that WINChip isn't the same as WINModem... a C6 is > perfectly healthy with the latest releases of the Kernel. > > Meanwhile, back on my other Windows PC, my other C6 blew up. I am still to > be convinced as to the reliability of these chips! > > Rob > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Pennington > To: Andy(a)nerds.co.uk ; suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > Date: 21 April 1999 19:49 > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WinChip C6 > > > > >It's the equivalent to a P55C or a Pentuim MMX. Let me know how this all > turns out, I have always wondered how a C6 does running Linux... > > > >-=3D|JP|=3D- > > > >On Wed, 21 April 1999, "Andy Thomson" wrote: > >> > >> When I compile the kernal what is the equiverlent of a IDC WinChip C6, > >> is it the same as a Pentium I or II? I know its socket seven, if that > >> helps ... > >> -- > >> http://www.nerds.co.uk> The place for computer enthusiasts > >> Andy Thomson _ > >> High Wycombe, Bucks. /_\ > >> / | \ > >-- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > >archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5116181670574258628==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Fri Apr 23 16:38:14 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WinChip C6 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:38:14 +0200 Message-ID: <3720A1F6.84C53EBF@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <01be8d0e$88490d20$0100007f@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7534641709593395432==" --===============7534641709593395432== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I'm also running a C6 200 MHz. It runs perfectly. I'm using it in my sever, i'm running samba on it and other experimental things. I have only 32 Mbytes of memory in it this slows the computer down quite a lot. It depends on what board you are using and all. I mean if you have an old board that doesn't have the 2.2 V setting for the K6 i would definitely choose for the C6 or even better the winchip. But if i would have a 2.2 V setting i would choose for a K6 as it is also very cheap an is a real runner. That is if it's your first PC if it is like a experimental or a server that doesn't have a high load i'd might still choose for the C6 or winchip. I did in the case of my server / experimental system. By the way i'm using a IBM 6x86 (Cyrix this is for my cable modem masquerading computer with apache server sendmail DNS etc) Than a (C6 as server with samba, apache server, xfree with windowmaker, sendmail, DNS etc) Than my third one this is the one i use most. It mainly runs Windows :-( as i need it for school. I will soon also run Linux again, i didn't have time to put it on the computer anyway this one is using a K6-2 it's quite fast to my feeling it's much faster than my computer at work which is a PII 233MHz with IDE HD, mine has UW SCSI). My computer at work runs Linux Suse 6.0 by the way. With kernel 2.2.6. I hope this helps. Regards, Joop Boonen. R S Fenwick wrote: > I ran SuSE 5.2 on my C6 for a while and it was NOT happy... RH 5.2 ran clean > as a whistle... SuSE 6.0 now runs clean as a whistle on my C6. > > It's nice to see that WINChip isn't the same as WINModem... a C6 is > perfectly healthy with the latest releases of the Kernel. > > Meanwhile, back on my other Windows PC, my other C6 blew up. I am still to > be convinced as to the reliability of these chips! > > Rob > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Pennington > To: Andy(a)nerds.co.uk ; suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > Date: 21 April 1999 19:49 > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WinChip C6 > > > > >It's the equivalent to a P55C or a Pentuim MMX. Let me know how this all > turns out, I have always wondered how a C6 does running Linux... > > > >-=3D|JP|=3D- > > > >On Wed, 21 April 1999, "Andy Thomson" wrote: > >> > >> When I compile the kernal what is the equiverlent of a IDC WinChip C6, > >> is it the same as a Pentium I or II? I know its socket seven, if that > >> helps ... > >> -- > >> http://www.nerds.co.uk> The place for computer enthusiasts > >> Andy Thomson _ > >> High Wycombe, Bucks. /_\ > >> / | \ > >-- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > >archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7534641709593395432==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Fri Apr 23 17:57:54 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] secure shell - ssh Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:57:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3720B4A2.EAFE37B@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <37203EF2.446A4307@ifi.unicamp.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5670662037012977737==" --===============5670662037012977737== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > anyone using a good secure shell on suse? let me know where i can > get it. > >=20 > You can get ssh.rpm from ftp://ftp.gwdg.de> Jim, You can go for the RPM or you can go get the the last 1.X.X version a= nd compile it then get the newest 2.X.X version and compile it for your machine. This way if you are connecting to a machine that has the 2.X.X version on it .. then it will work, and if you are going into a machine that has the 1.X.X version it will drop back for compatibility. It works much nicer then just rpm -i < blah, blah,blah> :) http://www.s= sh.fi/> Hope this helps, laters... -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5670662037012977737==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Fri Apr 23 18:14:29 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:14:29 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990423181429.0105f778@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2284021172680932460==" --===============2284021172680932460== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, Hope some of you can help me out here.=20 I have dabbled in programing a bit , started out with Clarion for dos , worked a little with clipper and am now currently using Borlands Delphi. I am now looking to slowly move to linux . I have gotten really tired of reloading windows and dealing with the "driver shuffle" and "plug and play" that every few months changes every thing around on you. My level of programing is somewhere between novice and intermediate. For what thats worth. I am real short on time , but ofton play at home . In other words , I really don't want to learn a whole lot of languages , but would rather put my time into one language that can handle what I want to do. SO IF YOU HAD ONLY ONE WHICH WOULD IT BE ? JAVA - tCL/Tkl - Perl or Other?? What libs / Third Party variety extensions-addins / reporting tools / database tools are there for your tool of choice ?? What will work with SQL ie postgres ect... Is it RAD ?? Why have you choosen it ??=20 Like I said , I want to do database apps and general business programing.=20 Not games ect... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2284021172680932460==-- From ttwkam@yahoo.com Fri Apr 23 18:19:45 1999 From: ttwkam@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: ipfwadm Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:19:45 -0700 Message-ID: <19990423181945.8740.rocketmail@web606.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2462385019581451421==" --===============2462385019581451421== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, I don't use ipfwadm for firewalling. Not able to answer your question but here I suggest a firewall software option. I have good experience using T.I.S. FWTK. FWTK gives you more flexibility and control on IP filtering and routing. You can download a free copy from TIS. Go here for download instructions... http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/security/tools/net/fwtk/> --- Jim Frentress wrote: >=20 > i use these commands to allow routing outside > network 13.10.10.0 but i don't > know the proper place to put these commands so on > reboot they are applied. > what file should i add these to (assuming i need the > route start command -- > it may already be somewhere)? >=20 > ipfwadm -F -a accept -m -S 13.10.10.0/24 -D > 0.0.0.0/0 > /sbin/init.d/route start >=20 >=20 > thanks, >=20 > jim >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to > majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > archive at > http://www.= suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 =3D=3D=3D Regards, Ted _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2462385019581451421==-- From im@hem.passagen.se Fri Apr 23 18:51:27 1999 From: im@hem.passagen.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Test: Ignore Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:51:27 +0200 Message-ID: <3720C12F.16D2049@hem.passagen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5107346631526761109==" --===============5107346631526761109== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Test mail -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5107346631526761109==-- From tomas@primenet.com Fri Apr 23 21:10:54 1999 From: tomas@primenet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Return from Vacation Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:10:54 -0700 Message-ID: <3720E1DE.AE81D0E4@primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3108490137558551401==" --===============3108490137558551401== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well folks, I'm back from my vacation, sort of, I basically tore out everything in the room, repainted, carpeted and finally got around to hooking up the computer. If there was anything directed specifically to me in the last 3 weeks it has been thrown away so I apologize to anyone now, but there was no way I was going to go through approximately 1600+ e-mails. Hope you can understand :) --=20 S.Toms - tomas(a)primenet.com - http://www.primenet.com/~tom= as> S.u.S.E. Linux v6.0+ - Kernels 2.0.36/2.2.3 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3108490137558551401==-- From stevem12@mindspring.com Fri Apr 23 21:41:37 1999 From: stevem12@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Can 95 read ext2 yet?? Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:41:37 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4491202700391550922==" --===============4491202700391550922== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was just wondering if the was anything out that would let 95/98 view a ext2 filesystem. Anyone? Steve ---------------------------------- E-Mail: stevem12(a)mindspring.com Date: 23-Apr-99 Time: 17:40:11 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4491202700391550922==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Fri Apr 23 22:38:10 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Can 95 read ext2 yet?? Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:38:10 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3869462770413495523==" --===============3869462770413495523== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote: > I was just wondering if the was anything out that would let 95/98 view > a ext2 filesystem. Anyone? FSDEXT2 will let you mount a linux partition read only.=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3869462770413495523==-- From avi@CFFtechnologies.com Fri Apr 23 23:12:34 1999 From: avi@CFFtechnologies.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Can 95 read ext2 yet?? Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:12:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3720FE62.D30DA58E@CFFtechnologies.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0392916356696365646==" --===============0392916356696365646== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve, I know of two: 1) FSDEXT2 - Supports only read mode. I have used this one.=20 http://www.yipton.demon.co.uk/> 2) LREAD - Claims to support read and write. Never had a chance to use this one. http://www.it.f= ht-esslingen.de/~zimmerma/lread.htm> Avi stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote: >=20 > I was just wondering if the was anything out that would let 95/98 view a ex= t2 > filesystem. Anyone? >=20 > Steve >=20 --=20 Avi Schwartz Get a Life avi(a)CFFtechnologies.com Get Linux -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0392916356696365646==-- From landie@concentric.net Fri Apr 23 23:40:18 1999 From: landie@concentric.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] KERNEL Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:40:18 -0400 Message-ID: <000001be8de2$a522d000$8717adce@roman> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990423181429.0105f778@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1699356563310512691==" --===============1699356563310512691== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WHAT IS THE LATEST STABLE KERNEL? rr -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1699356563310512691==-- From jpenn@planetdirect.com Sat Apr 24 00:42:34 1999 From: jpenn@planetdirect.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KERNEL Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:42:34 -0700 Message-ID: <19990424004234.27399.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] KERNEL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8650536293272508103==" --===============8650536293272508103== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 23 April 1999, "landie" wrote: >=20 >=20 > WHAT IS THE LATEST STABLE KERNEL? >=20 > rr Well, the latest information is at http://www.kernel.org>, but I *believe* that 2.2.6 is the latest and greatest. I could be wrong... -=3D|JP|=3D- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8650536293272508103==-- From mistrM@gtemail.net Sat Apr 24 01:01:10 1999 From: mistrM@gtemail.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KERNEL Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:01:10 -0700 Message-ID: <000601be8ded$f1538220$8348fea9@M.flashcom.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] KERNEL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2957923211798987134==" --===============2957923211798987134== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2.2.6 and 2.0.36 You can obtain source/patches at http://www.kernel.org/> >WHAT IS THE LATEST STABLE KERNEL? > >rr -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2957923211798987134==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Apr 24 01:15:37 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Microsoft patches bevy of IE bugs Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 21:15:37 -0400 Message-ID: <37211B39.51E458CD@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8816699744312510297==" --===============8816699744312510297== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.news.com/News/Item/0%2C4%2C35492%2C00.html?= dd.ne.htmldisp.hl.ne> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8816699744312510297==-- From jpenn@planetdirect.com Sat Apr 24 02:30:53 1999 From: jpenn@planetdirect.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kernel problems Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:30:53 -0700 Message-ID: <19990424023053.20629.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2397413132958964721==" --===============2397413132958964721== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, so long as the kernel is the subject de jour, mine's broken. I got a 2.2.5 tarball from ftp.us.kernel.org, installpkg'd it, and did make menuconfig. I picked all the options I wanted (frame buffer, ppp module, iso module, advansys module, 3c509 module, msdos module, vfat module, and all required components for each), and did make dep ; make=20 clean ; depmod -a ; make zlilo *as usual.* I've not done anything=20 differently this time than any other kernel I've ever worked with. The kernel boots, the frame buffer works, my SCSI and NIC modules both work beautifully, but ppp.o and isofs.o both gripe about unresolved sym- bols. What's an unresolved symbol, why weren't they resolved, and if they weren't resolved, why didn't the compiler tell me? My mouse is cool, the Advansys and 3Com cards get along great, but I don't have any support for non-ext2 file systems, and I can't get on the 'net! Argg! Has anyone else seen this before? Do you have any advice? I'd love to fire up a conversation / start a flame war / hear sympathetic voices about this, perhaps even get it resolved. Be warned: I'm *not* a programmer. I know how to use a compiler about like Klingons play violins; it's awk- ward and you fear for the violin. -=3D|JP|=3D- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2397413132958964721==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Sat Apr 24 03:21:43 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Linux users? Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:21:43 -0500 Message-ID: <372138C7.B996D645@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2409368955841942598==" --===============2409368955841942598== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I want to pose a question and see what all of you think. Within the last 6-8 months we have see an increadible increase in interest and usage of Linux ( whatever distro ) and yet we have not see the numbers in these articles increase at all. It's always quoted at 7-12 million people world wide. Does anyone think that with all this interest that the number stagnated and did not grow? Yet the MS numbers we see keep growing and growning like a plague?! I know that statistics should not mean much, but I would like to know where it stands just for the hell of it. Any thoughts would be good .. and maybe we can submit something to /. just to see if they will do a survey about it..an across the board usage..all distros right? Cause it's all Linux .. Right???? Just something that made me go....hmmmmmmm. laters, --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2409368955841942598==-- From jpenn@planetdirect.com Sat Apr 24 03:41:23 1999 From: jpenn@planetdirect.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel problems Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:41:23 -0700 Message-ID: <19990424034123.10713.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Kernel problems> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6012659805250059884==" --===============6012659805250059884== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 23 April 1999, "Rafael E. Herrera" wrote: =20 > You seem to be having problems loading the modules. Have forgotten to do > 'make modules; make modules_install' after you built the zImage? Make > sure that they install in /lib/modules/2.2.5. >=20 > If they don't work still, try building some of the troubling modules > into the kernel. You can then try to fix one at the time. Check. PPP is too big to fit, so I can't try that. All of the file system ones are now a part of the kernel, and it still doesn't seem to work right. (By "right," I mean to say "at all.") I'm really confounded by this, and think it's a problem with the assembly itself (or, I just might be on crack about that one). I've tried to get the SuSE 2.2.5 rpm, but I can't seem to find it. The link on the Updates page doesn't seem to work either. I'm going to get this right if it kills me, turns my computer into a smoldering pile of silicon and metal, or something else terrible happens. Thank you sincerely for your suggestions. -=3D|JP|=3D- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6012659805250059884==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 24 04:07:29 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] KERNEL Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:07:29 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000001be8de2$a522d000$8717adce@roman> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0511976618133182429==" --===============0511976618133182429== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, landie wrote: >=20 > WHAT IS THE LATEST STABLE KERNEL? THE LATEST STABLE KERNEL IS 2.2.6. THERE SHOULD BE A BUTTON SOMEWHERE, PROBABLY TO THE LEFT OF YOUR 'A' KEY, CALLED "CAPS LOCK". PRESS IT. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0511976618133182429==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 24 04:08:34 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux users? Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:08:34 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <372138C7.B996D645@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1803708128521313810==" --===============1803708128521313810== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Ben Rosenberg wrote: >=20 > Hello all, >=20 > I want to pose a question and see what all of you think. Within the > last 6-8 months we have see an increadible increase in interest and > usage of Linux ( whatever distro ) and yet we have not see the numbers > in these articles increase at all. It's always quoted at 7-12 million > people world wide. Does anyone think that with all this interest that > the number stagnated and did not grow? Yet the MS numbers we see keep > growing and growning like a plague?! I know that statistics should not > mean much, but I would like to know where it stands just for the hell of > it. No. They are definitely skyrocketing. We just can't keep track. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1803708128521313810==-- From raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu Sat Apr 24 04:37:27 1999 From: raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel problems Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:37:27 -0400 Message-ID: <37214A87.4A02F770@neuronet.pitt.edu> In-Reply-To: <19990424023053.20629.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6746036800016420460==" --===============6746036800016420460== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You seem to be having problems loading the modules. Have forgotten to do 'make modules; make modules_install' after you built the zImage? Make sure that they install in /lib/modules/2.2.5. If they don't work still, try building some of the troubling modules into the kernel. You can then try to fix one at the time. --=20 Rafael Herrera Laboratory for Computational Neuroscience University of Pittsburgh http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~raffo> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6746036800016420460==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Sat Apr 24 04:51:08 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux users? Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:51:08 -1000 Message-ID: <37214DBC.ABFFC146@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <372138C7.B996D645@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4015483800737529255==" --===============4015483800737529255== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ben Rosenberg wrote: >=20 > Hello all, >=20 > I want to pose a question and see what all of you think. Within the > last 6-8 months we have see an increadible increase in interest and > usage of Linux ( whatever distro ) and yet we have not see the numbers > in these articles increase at all. It's always quoted at 7-12 million > people world wide. Does anyone think that with all this interest that > the number stagnated and did not grow? Yet the MS numbers we see keep > growing and growning like a plague?! I know that statistics should not > mean much, but I would like to know where it stands just for the hell of > it. > Any thoughts would be good .. and maybe we can submit something to = /. > just to see if they will do a survey about it..an across the board > usage..all distros right? Cause it's all Linux .. Right???? >=20 > Just something that made me go....hmmmmmmm. >=20 Let's see: MS stats go up because MS says they do. Linux stats are stagnant because the people who use Linux are busy getting to work on a stable platform and forgot=20 to register. Or they're like me, registered once, even though I have installed it on three friends computers, and run it on six PC's at home. I guess I'm part of the problem. --=20 George Toft http://gtoft.dynip.com/LinuxAdvocate= /> __ __ _ __ __ __ ___ ___ | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / -o) | | | | | \_| | | | | | \ \/ / (o- /\\ | |__ | | | | | |_| | / /\ \ //\ _\_v |_____||__| |__|\___| \_______| /__/ \__\ v_/_ Don't fear the penguins... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4015483800737529255==-- From raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu Sat Apr 24 05:12:47 1999 From: raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE Gnome 1.0 and Enlightenment 0.15.5 Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 01:12:47 -0400 Message-ID: <372152CF.45A219CF@neuronet.pitt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1050702736390204775==" --===============1050702736390204775== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, For those of you experimenting with SuSE's Gnome RPMs I'd like to report that I just successfully built and installed Enlightenment 0.15.5 and it's configuration tool enlightenment-conf 0.15. First off, un-install SuSE's 'enlight' package. Then get both tar files from=20 http://www.enlightenment.org/download.htm= l> enlightenment-0.15.5.tar.gz and enlightenment-conf-0.15.tar.gz Untar enlightenment first and configure it with "./configure --prefix=3D/opt". This'll install it under /opt/enlightenment. This way you won't install it over system's directories and will make it easy to remove by just deleting /opt/enlightenment. Do 'make' and 'make install'. Add /opt/enlightenment/bin to your path, start X with gnome and select Enlightenment in the control panel. Next, untar enlightenment-conf and configure it with './configure --prefix=3D/opt/enlightenment', 'make' and 'make install' it. Now you can use e-config to customize enlightenment. The libraries provided by SuSE should suffice to build the packages. Try it AT YOUR OWN RISK. Good luck. --=20 Rafael Herrera Laboratory for Computational Neuroscience University of Pittsburgh http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~raffo> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1050702736390204775==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Sat Apr 24 05:26:33 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux users? Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:26:33 -0500 Message-ID: <37215609.FEB5921E@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <37214DBC.ABFFC146@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5556577407295717546==" --===============5556577407295717546== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable George, Nope, I would not think you are part of the problem..I was just thinking that a survey would be possible of people who are using..if not by /. then by c|net or some other large, heavy traffic site..*shrug* oh well. >=20 > Let's see: MS stats go up because MS says they do. >=20 > Linux stats are stagnant because the people who use Linux > are busy getting to work on a stable platform and forgot > to register. Or they're like me, registered once, even > though I have installed it on three friends computers, > and run it on six PC's at home. I guess I'm part of the > problem. >=20 > -- --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5556577407295717546==-- From jrodman@suse.com Sat Apr 24 05:51:39 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Video question.... Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:51:39 -0700 Message-ID: <19990423225139.B7135@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: <371D2F80.265C19EA@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2293058892094074603==" --===============2293058892094074603== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Fred, * Fred A. Miller (fmiller(a)lightlink.com) [990420 19:34]: >=20 > Anyone know if the ATI Xpert(a)Play 98 PCI card is presently suppored or > if it will be in 6.1.....Lenz? According to Dirk Hohldel, this card is supported by the current Mach64 X server. I did get a support request from one person who was having trouble, but when I asked for details I didn't get a reply. =20 I have talked to some who are definitely useing this card succesfully, so I suspect that user's problem was configuration-related. Best of luck, Joshua Rodman SuSE Inc. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2293058892094074603==-- From jrodman@suse.com Sat Apr 24 06:43:04 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Star Office after upgrade from 5.3 => 6.0 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:43:04 -0700 Message-ID: <19990423234304.C7135@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: <371CCD2B.A37668A7@VT.Edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1047092475028958060==" --===============1047092475028958060== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello David, * David Henderson (DAHende3(a)VT.Edu) [990420 12:47]: >=20 > List Members: >=20 > I upgraded from SuSE 5.3 to 6.0 last Thursday over the net and following >=20 > the upgrade, my installation of StarOffice will no longer work and gives >=20 > me the following errors: >=20 > david(a)dhenderson:~ > soffice& > [1] 962 > david(a)dhenderson:~ > dirname: error in loading shared libraries > : undefined symbol: __register_frame_info > basename: error in loading shared libraries > : undefined symbol: __register_frame_info > uname: error in loading shared libraries > : undefined symbol: __register_frame_info > /home/david/Office50/bin/soffice: //bin/.bin: No such file or directory > /home/david/Office50/bin/soffice: exec: //bin/.bin: cannot execute: No > such file or directory >=20 > [1]+ Exit 126 soffice > david(a)dhenderson:~ > I've seen this error before, and it usually means you're loading a mix of old libraries and new libraries for some reason. This is usually caused when a user adds their own libraries to the system which the installer doesn't handle automatically when sorting things into libc5/libc6 directories, etc. The pertinent question is, of course, what does=20 lddlibc5 /opt/Office50/bin/soffice.bin ay? Of course, I can't be certain that path is correct, as I don't know where you've installed Star Office. If you don't know, try: locate soffice.bin > I need to get StarOffice working again in order to finish my PhD > proposal pronto. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have > already reinstalled the compatability shlibs (shlibs5) from SuSE. > Thanks in advance for the help!! Another thought would be to install the Star Office package off the 6.0 disks, though you might want to be sure you don't step on your old Star Office directory. If memory serves me correctly, 5.3 didn't have Star Office, so I'm not really sure what you used.. perhaps you downloaded the version off their web site? > Dave H Sorry for the delay in replying, this is just the first day I've started to read this list Joshua Rodman SuSE Inc. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1047092475028958060==-- From jrodman@suse.com Sat Apr 24 06:54:23 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] internet access Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:54:23 -0700 Message-ID: <19990423235423.D7135@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8762321273412795488==" --===============8762321273412795488== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Charles, * Charles Yurek (magnum(a)cyberenet.net) [990420 12:09]: > hello all, >=20 > I have NT4 and linux kernel 2.2.6 setup in a peer to peer network with > linux being 192.168.1.1 and NT being 192.168.1.2 can anyone tell me how to > access the Internet from my linux box with NT4 being the dial-up server? Sure. You can set this up in YaST under the following area System Administration -> Network Configuration -> Network base configuration -> Select your ethernet device with the cursor keys, and press F6 Enter 192.168.1.2 as your Default gateway address. Alternatively, you could just add/change a line in /etc/route.conf to look like the following: default 192.168.1.2 Note that there should only be ONE default route in this file. Now, you've configured your Linux box to transmit all packats to the NT box for further delivery. How to set up the NT box as a dialup machine capable of Network Address Translation (NAT), or equivalent, is quite up to you and your NT resources. =20 Apparently, this functionality is not integrated into NT4, and I have not heard good things about the commercial and shareware NAT-like programs for windows. Certainly many have been cited as security abominations, but I am again not an expert in this field. Perhaps the more Windows-oriented in the crowd could fill us in? Of course you could always have the linux box be the dialup server, in which case you would use ip masqurading via the ipfwadmin tool (for 2.0.x kernels) or the ipchains tool (for 2.2.x kernels). > thanks MagnuM You're welcome. Hopefully the above is of assistance, Joshua Rodman SuSE Inc. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8762321273412795488==-- From jrodman@suse.com Sat Apr 24 07:09:09 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] how to switch apsfilter settings? Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:09:09 -0700 Message-ID: <19990424000909.E7135@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: <199904202146.XAA07508@servalys.hobby.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6232744577288494955==" --===============6232744577288494955== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Wybo, * Wybo Dekker (wybo(a)servalys.hobby.nl) [990421 02:28]: >=20 > Hi,=20 >=20 > I like apsfilter and have set FEATURE=3D2. But sometimes I would like to > temporarily set it to 1l, without actually changing apsfilterrc. Is > there a way to do that via a lpr-parameter or an environment variable > or otherwise?=20 Well, if you happen to be using LPRng (you aren't by default), it's as simple as=20 lpr -Z feature=3D2=20 or whatever other feature setting you might want. The default lp system supplied with SuSE doesn't support this -Z switch (and if what you have is working, I'll be the last to suggest changing it for one whizzy feature). You could also create an additional printer queue which is configured just like the one you have now, but with a different feature setting. You can choose the feature string in a printer-by-printer basis in the file /etc/apsfilterrc.. Then you could name them printer.single and printer.double or something like this, so as to achieve a choice. lpr -Pprinter.single lpr -Pprinter.double Best of luck, Joshua Rodman SuSE Inc. > --=20 > Hartelijke groet, Wybo > -- > __Servalys Analytical Chemistry Services__ > Wybo H. Dekker wybo(a)servalys.hobby.nl > Deilsedijk 60 www.hobby.nl/~servalys > 4158 CH Deil tel +31-345-652164 =20 > The Netherlands fax +31-345-652383 =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6232744577288494955==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 24 08:52:18 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 08:52:18 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990424085218.01070af4@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1133775274607604314==" --===============1133775274607604314== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 05:09 PM 4/23/1999 -1000, you wrote: >Samy Elashmawy wrote: >>=20 >> Hi folks, Hope some of you can help me out here. >> I have dabbled in programing a bit , started out with Clarion for dos , >> worked a little with clipper and am now currently using Borlands Delphi. >> I am now looking to slowly move to linux . I have gotten really tired of >> reloading windows and dealing with the "driver shuffle" and "plug and play" >> that every few months changes every thing around on you. >> My level of programing is somewhere between novice and intermediate. For >> what thats worth. I am real short on time , but ofton play at home . In >> other words , I really don't want to learn a whole lot of languages , but >> would rather put my time into one language that can handle what I want to do. >> SO IF YOU HAD ONLY ONE WHICH WOULD IT BE ? >> JAVA - tCL/Tkl - Perl or Other?? >Who is your intended audience? Almost all Linux systems >have Tcl/Tk, but not all have Java. Windows can run Java >applets (write your app w/o a main() and a browser will >run it - this is a simplification). =20 My audience , OK , I am involved in a retial store with 20 - 25 emplo= yees , plan on 5 networked pc , linux preferably , as its much more stable , and it is conductive to "set and forget" stability . on the front burner are customer database , atreration tracking app ,= and some sort of custom supplier/leads type of cantackt manager . I am hoping to find some accounting software to handlw the acts payable and checking account type application for the back office. Most likley 2-3 terminals for back office and two to three terminals aoround the sales floor.=20 >> What libs / Third Party variety extensions-addins / reporting tools / >> database tools are there for your tool of choice ?? >SpecTcl - allows you to make the GUI, then save it in either >Java or Tcl/Tk code. This sounds interesting. I have been leaning to JAva as its cross pla= tform and will allow me to slowly move to linux using dual boot cpus Do you have more info , is tcl a stronly typed , os soft like perl ? = is gui built in or used via third party addins or madules ?? >> What will work with SQL ie postgres ect... > >Using jdbc drivers may be a bit of effort, but a Tcl >program can run your SQL queries in a shell. Are there tcl modules for working with postgres ?? Why is the jdbc dr= iver an effort to set up ?=20 >> Is it RAD ?? > >> Why have you choosen it ?? > >Since I don't give two beans about Windows users, so I'm developing >using Tcl. If a Windows user wants to use my program, they >can download winTcl80 also. If I were doing this to make money, >my tune would be much different. how conuctive to buisines programing is tcl , do you find yourself hitting the "wall" , is it cleaner then vb , how does it compare to something like pascal or Java ?? >> Like I said , I want to do database apps and general business programing. >> Not games ect... > >My first Tcl app was an automated data retriever that takes >data out of a web page and saves it on disk. Took me 3 hours >to develop (while learning the language). Took me 30 hours >to write the same thing in MS Visual Basic. Whoooow. That easy , your not kidding are you ? Why did it take so long in VB (Sory never used vb) >Again - look at your audience and make it easiest for them. > >--=20 >George Toft http://gtoft.dynip.com/LinuxAdvocat= e/> > __ __ _ __ __ __ ___ ___ > | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / > -o) | | | | | \_| | | | | | \ \/ / (o- > /\\ | |__ | | | | | |_| | / /\ \ //\ > _\_v |_____||__| |__|\___| \_______| /__/ \__\ v_/_ > > Don't fear the penguins... > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1133775274607604314==-- From jpenn@planetdirect.com Sat Apr 24 08:53:46 1999 From: jpenn@planetdirect.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel problems Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 01:53:46 -0700 Message-ID: <19990424085346.387.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Kernel problems> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2114046115801471402==" --===============2114046115801471402== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd like to thank you all for your kind and generous advice. I seem to have fixed all of the problems I was having, and an absolute minimum of new ones have appeared in their place ;). I finally found the SuSE rpm for kernel 2.2.5, removed my generic source tree, installed the SuSE one, and made the kernel. Much to my suprise (well, not really), the new kernel worked, as did most of the modules I built along with it. I do have a couple of weird things I'd like to get rid of, however. The boot messages list two modules (actually three, but I only have a par- tial name for the third) that it cannot load. The first one, that I only have a partial name for, is something like cp437. The next is a codepage nls_iso8859-1. The final rogue module is char_major_4, which the screen reports to be missing some eight or nine times. A final thorn in my side is my ATAPI Zip drive. The firmware revision is 13A, so the drive is aged. I made an entry in my /etc/fstab to mount my Zip as /dev/hdb4, which puts the volume as the fourth partition on the secondary device of my primary controller. According to all of the FAQ's, the disks that come IBM pre-formatted have the meat of the disk (some 96megs) on this fourth partition. The entry in /etc/fstab tries to mount it as vfat, which I can only assume is correct. However... When I look at /var/log/boot.msg, this line stands out: <5>hdb: The drive reports both 100663296 and 100646912 bytes as its capacity And when I try to mount the device at /zip, I get this: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb4, or too many mounted file systems Any ideas? -=3D|JP|=3D- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2114046115801471402==-- From Andy@nerds.co.uk Sat Apr 24 09:10:02 1999 From: Andy@nerds.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] On board graphics Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:10:02 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3978991185960283549==" --===============3978991185960283549== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At work I am using a WinChip C6 PC with onboard sound and graphics. The sound is is fine OSS detects it and it works. The Graphics are different I am using the the generic drivers SVGA under card selection in SaX. Yet when I move or minimise windows white shading is left where the top of thw window use to be. The graphics chip is identified by Windows 95 as SiS 5597/8, and thoes PCs seem fine. The other thing is the boot screen of the PC says it has 2M of GFX ram yet Sax insists it has 1M. What should my settings be? --=20 http= ://www.nerds.co.uk> The place for computer enthusiasts Andy Thomson _ High Wycombe, Bucks. /_\ ht= tp://come.to/athomson> / | \ Windows Error #02: Multitasking attempted. System confused. =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3978991185960283549==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 24 09:10:13 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:10:13 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990424091013.01070890@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6033139220197420625==" --===============6033139220197420625== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken, I took a realy quick look a very short 10 page perl tutorial=20 I did not like the soft typeing . find the thre daTA types confusing , espeacialy when acessin there index arrays. Also think that only=20 three data types is kind of lacking. At 08:25 PM 4/23/1999 -0800, you wrote: >I'd recommend Perl for such things. Perl is very portable, is great >for small one-off scripts and command line use, but is also good for >longer programs. There are lots of perl modules on CPAN to do >various tasks, including a lot of database stuff. > >There's a Perl/Tk module, so you can use Tk without Tcl. Tcl is >designed to be a general purpose scripting language too, but has its >own syntax peculiarities, etc.=20 Can you explian this ? I kind of founfd perl to ne rather confusing ? >If you've used Delphi's object oriented abilities, you'd probably >appreciate Perl's, although it works at sort of a shallower level >than Delphi. More like cooperative object orientation, but still >very effective for encapsulating properties and behaviors in named >entiities. Hmmm , I have been reading bruce eckles thinking in jave , I am havin= g a hard time with the oop stuff. Delphi via the ide allows you to slap togeth= er components and hook them together with code snippets and object prperties. Kind = of insulates=20 you from the oop stuff , till you need to deal with it. Java (sun jkd)on the other hand doesent have an ide , but relies on h= and coding and =20 using the supplied layout managers. That is good in that you are more intamate with=20 your source , but takes much more time and effort on the devolper. I = found Borlanmds =20 jbuilder to be realy confusing , and have a copy of simplicity tha co= n be used on both=20 win on linux. I find my self hamperd by lack of knoldeg of java and t= he api and difrent=20 event handling structure. Is similar but quit diffrent form delphi pa= scal. Saving grace is cross platform use and similarity to c/c++ . >Re RAD, well, there's no integrated editor, but Perl compiles >(quickly) at run time, so the code-test-code thing goes pretty fast. > >Ken > > > >On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, you wrote: >>Hi folks, Hope some of you can help me out here.=20 >>I have dabbled in programing a bit , started out with Clarion for dos , >>worked a little with clipper and am now currently using Borlands Delphi. >> >>I am now looking to slowly move to linux . I have gotten really tired of >>reloading windows and dealing with the "driver shuffle" and "plug and play" >>that every few months changes every thing around on you. >> >>My level of programing is somewhere between novice and intermediate. For >>what thats worth. I am real short on time , but ofton play at home . In >>other words , I really don't want to learn a whole lot of languages , but >>would rather put my time into one language that can handle what I want to do. >> >>SO IF YOU HAD ONLY ONE WHICH WOULD IT BE ? >> >>JAVA - tCL/Tkl - Perl or Other?? >> >>What libs / Third Party variety extensions-addins / reporting tools / >>database tools are there for your tool of choice ?? >> >>What will work with SQL ie postgres ect... >> >>Is it RAD ?? >> >>Why have you choosen it ??=20 >> >>Like I said , I want to do database apps and general business programing.=20 >>Not games ect... >> >> >> >>-- >>To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >>this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >>Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the >>archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >-- >Ken Irving -- jkirving(a)mosquitonet.com >Trident Software -- http://www.mosqu= itonet.com/~jkirving/trident> > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6033139220197420625==-- From jrodman@suse.com Sat Apr 24 09:14:29 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] how to switch apsfilter settings? Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:14:29 -0700 Message-ID: <19990424021429.J7135@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: <19990424000909.E7135@Baader.SuSE.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8313015514752656895==" --===============8313015514752656895== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Josh Rodman (jrodman(a)suse.com) [990424 00:47]: >=20 > Hello Wybo, >=20 > * Wybo Dekker (wybo(a)servalys.hobby.nl) [990421 02:28]: > >=20 > > Hi,=20 > >=20 > > I like apsfilter and have set FEATURE=3D2. But sometimes I would like to > > temporarily set it to 1l, without actually changing apsfilterrc. Is > > there a way to do that via a lpr-parameter or an environment variable > > or otherwise?=20 =20 Sorry, I forgot the quick and dirty method. Instead of queing your print jobs directly using lpr, you could choose to convert them to postscript first using a2ps, which is what apsfilter uses anyway. Without any special options, a2ps will write to the default print queue itself. man a2ps for details, but=20 a2ps -2 textfile=20 would put two sheets on a page, while a2ps -1 textfile would put one sheet per page. Joshua Rodman SuSE Inc. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8313015514752656895==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 24 09:16:23 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:16:23 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990424091623.01069484@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8846144121754610607==" --===============8846144121754610607== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:15:52 +0000 >To: islandwolf >From: Samy Elashmawy >Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl >In-Reply-To: <37214314.87F416BD(a)blaze.ca> >References: <3.0.3.32.19990423181429.0105f778(a)po= pd.ix.netcom.com> > >At 09:05 PM 4/23/1999 -0700, you wrote: >>Samy Elashmawy wrote: >> >>> Hi folks, Hope some of you can help me out here. >>> I have dabbled in programing a bit , started out with Clarion for dos , >>> worked a little with clipper and am now currently using Borlands Delphi. >>> > my time into one language that can handle what I want to do. >>> >>> SO IF YOU HAD ONLY ONE WHICH WOULD IT BE ? >> >>Python...It's simple, fast, and you can do anything with it. >>It interfaces with GTK, among other gui tools > > >Can you give some mor info on it , what libs / modules are avialable . how does it compare to java or Delphis object pascal or TCL/TKL and perl ? is it soft/stronly typed , compiled ot interpited , opp or procedural ext... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8846144121754610607==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 24 09:23:25 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:23:25 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990424092325.00fb45d0@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1880826035989602649==" --===============1880826035989602649== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmmm , I understood that do do any thing usefull in C you need to write a ton of code , or have a whole bunch of libs/third party tools. I understand that due to the lib problem that c is not so cross platform freindly. Seems to me that C is more of an industrial srtenth type language. I question weather that ttype of hose power is realy need by me , and am looking int something that bay bee al little "weaker" but is faster to devolpe. Too bad borland wont make a linux version of delphi. I would settle for a linux version of paradox or similar type tool At 02:31 PM 4/23/1999 -0700, you wrote: >Samy Elashmawy wrote: >>=20 >> JAVA - tCL/Tkl - Perl or Other?? > > c++ or c would probably be your best starting point as thats what the >majority of programs written are done with. Its also not to hard to >learn. > Java's nice but I never really got into it enough to reccommend it or >not. Though I have noticed that the programs seem to have a much more >fluid effect to them. > I do alot of tcl/tk programming as it resembles c++ and c in various >ways plus to me it seemed easier to test changes quickly without having >to re-compile everytime you changed something but it's not as robust as >c++ or c. > Perl I havn't ventured into at all but plan to sometime before the >years end if my girlfriend doesn't kill me first :) > >> What libs / Third Party variety extensions-addins / reporting tools / >> database tools are there for your tool of choice ?? > > All the libs and tools are supplied with pretty much any distro of >linux you use as long as you install or select for install the devel >portion, be careful though as installing ALL the devel files installs >compilers and libs you may never use. > >> What will work with SQL ie postgres ect... > > Don't know, havn't messed with SQL > >> Is it RAD ?? > > RAD? as in cool?? > >> Why have you choosen it ?? > > Chose c++ and c because their the most commonly used, tcl/tk because I >used to spend alot of time on IRC and the program I used bitchX and >Xircon used tcl scripting. > >--=20 > S.Toms - tomas(a)primenet.com - http://www.primenet.com/~to= mas> > S.u.S.E. Linux v6.0+ - Kernels 2.0.36/2.2.3 > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1880826035989602649==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 24 09:31:15 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux users? Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:31:15 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990424093115.00fb9ed8@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <37214DBC.ABFFC146@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5387699748135535666==" --===============5387699748135535666== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It coulf be that becouse linux doesent twist your arm into "regestering" that we dont get the full count. Notice how the MS apps keep insisting you register , after every install , and poip up that nanoying reminder every 30 days , or the office identifier in the docs you create , or the scan that MS does when you register win98.=20 Talk anout invasion fo privacy. Look at all the flack the NYC/NJS pol= ice are getting for there "stop and frisk" and "racial profiling". Yet you here almost nothing when billy wants a peak at you pc or wants to know who created ach and every MS document. Matter of fact isent there a second MS app that puts its own ID Number in each document you create ? Cant remenber which one it was. At 06:51 PM 4/23/1999 -1000, you wrote: > >Ben Rosenberg wrote: >>=20 >> Hello all, >>=20 >> I want to pose a question and see what all of you think. Within the >> last 6-8 months we have see an increadible increase in interest and >> usage of Linux ( whatever distro ) and yet we have not see the numbers >> in these articles increase at all. It's always quoted at 7-12 million >> people world wide. Does anyone think that with all this interest that >> the number stagnated and did not grow? Yet the MS numbers we see keep >> growing and growning like a plague?! I know that statistics should not >> mean much, but I would like to know where it stands just for the hell of >> it. >> Any thoughts would be good .. and maybe we can submit something to /. >> just to see if they will do a survey about it..an across the board >> usage..all distros right? Cause it's all Linux .. Right???? >>=20 >> Just something that made me go....hmmmmmmm. >>=20 > > >Let's see: MS stats go up because MS says they do. > >Linux stats are stagnant because the people who use Linux >are busy getting to work on a stable platform and forgot=20 >to register. Or they're like me, registered once, even >though I have installed it on three friends computers, >and run it on six PC's at home. I guess I'm part of the >problem. > >--=20 >George Toft http://gtoft.dynip.com/LinuxAdvocat= e/> > __ __ _ __ __ __ ___ ___ > | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / > -o) | | | | | \_| | | | | | \ \/ / (o- > /\\ | |__ | | | | | |_| | / /\ \ //\ > _\_v |_____||__| |__|\___| \_______| /__/ \__\ v_/_ > > Don't fear the penguins... >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5387699748135535666==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 24 09:41:16 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:41:16 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990424094116.00fb800c@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9091511080016641533==" --===============9091511080016641533== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerry , See my other reply re C/C++ , I would be interested in your comments. I see that you are quite "bold" as some would say coming from the windows workd. I have yet to take on Emacs or the other linux/unix editors. I found them reakly confusuing to say the least. So I jave been using Joe for basic editing. What are3 codepage and codewarier ?? What obsticals are you finding coming from the windows world?? Re postgress , I am prety sure that I have it installed , and I think that pgacces is properly installed as well. I plan on reading over the docs this weekend , then I will tackle the configuration and enviormet settings. Next I will go on with the tutoriaol. I just finished printing out the tutorial , users guid and admoin guid. Man , thats a ton of paper , Not to mention the rogrames guide , that in of its self is a ton ot print out. Thanks for your input .=20 At 12:51 AM 4/24/1999 -0500, you wrote: >Samy Elashmawy wrote: >>=20 >> Hi folks, Hope some of you can help me out here. >> I have dabbled in programing a bit , started out with Clarion for dos , >> worked a little with clipper and am now currently using Borlands Delphi. > >I've gone from AREV to Advanced Arev to VB to PowerBuilder to FP to >VFP... somewhat similar to your path. For the last 6 months I have >been exploring the development area of Linux. I've played with emacs >and Xemacs (and CVS, which is connected to it), CodeForge, CodeWarrior, >Visual TCL, Perl, Python, C, Qt, Xforms, XApplications, and some other >stuff. > > >>=20 >> SO IF YOU HAD ONLY ONE WHICH WOULD IT BE ? >>=20 >> JAVA - tCL/Tkl - Perl or Other?? > >I wouldn't fixate on just one, but on two or three .... C and a couple >of good toolkits. =20 >Toolkit #1: The free version of Qt (1.44 or 2.0 when it comes out) >because it is what KDE is built with and it is crossplatform >(Linux-Windows). Another would be Tcl, because it, too, is >crossplatform. PostgreSQL 6.4 (then 6.5 when it is released) is the SQL >engine I am focusing on (after trying Oracle, Sybase, MySQL, and some >others) because it is as powerful as any and the price is right.=20 >Pgaccess, a Tcl front end to PostgreSQL is very nice, and besides >Xforms, is about the only WYSIWYG GUI screen designer I've found (yet) >in the Linux world. I've ordered the book just released from ORilley on >Qt programming. But, from what I've learned, programming GUI apps with >Qt and C is similar to doing the same thing with M$ C++, which is not at >all like VB or Delphi. You don't see what you get till you compile and >run it. If you are used to the old Borland IDE you can use xwpe, which >is almost a carbon copy. =20 >The best debugger is ddd, which is a beautiful gui tool.=20 > >>=20 >> What libs / Third Party variety extensions-addins / reporting tools / >> database tools are there for your tool of choice ?? >>=20 >> What will work with SQL ie postgres ect... > >PostgreSQL. You already have it running on your box if I remember >right. Read the docs and see how powerful it is. Do the tutorial, >create the weather tables, experiment with psql and with pgaccess. > >>=20 >> Is it RAD ?? > >Visual Tcl (pgaccess) is somewhat RAD. > >>=20 >> Why have you choosen it ?? > >The shallowest learning curve, free, widely used... > >--=20 > >JLK >Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is >right. > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9091511080016641533==-- From koen_dejonghe@yahoo.com Sat Apr 24 10:48:42 1999 From: koen_dejonghe@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] xdm and console login Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 03:48:42 -0700 Message-ID: <19990424104842.26997.rocketmail@web122.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6786110666800812779==" --===============6786110666800812779== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I want to set up my Linux box so that when logging in from the console I am still presented with a normal ASCII terminal.=20 But it should be possible to log in from e.g. a pc with an X terminal emulator over the network. I can achieve this by starting xdm, but then my console is also giving me a X screen to log in. Anybody ? =3D=3D=3D Koen Dejonghe tel: +32 (0)2 712 3668=20 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6786110666800812779==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sat Apr 24 11:13:19 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux users? Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:13:19 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37215609.FEB5921E@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5186957673411430284==" --===============5186957673411430284== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24-Apr-99 Ben Rosenberg wrote: > George, > Nope, I would not think you are part of the problem..I was just > thinking that a survey would be possible of people who are using..if > not by /. then by c|net or some other large, heavy traffic > site..*shrug* oh well. >>=20 >> Let's see: MS stats go up because MS says they do. >>=20 >> Linux stats are stagnant because the people who use Linux >> are busy getting to work on a stable platform and forgot >> to register. Or they're like me, registered once, even >> though I have installed it on three friends computers, >> and run it on six PC's at home. I guess I'm part of the >> problem. On the contrary, George _is_ part of the problem (relax, George, that's not a criticism -- nor have I registered anywhere any of the 4 LInux installations I currently use, nor have I made any attempt to de-register any of the earlier ones I replaced with the current ones assuming I had registered them somewhere which I hadn't ... and I'm a professional statistician who ought to have a responsible attitude, I dare say ... ). The plain fact is that estimating current numbers of active Linux installations is a bit like estimating the number of mice in a haystack without taking it apart under controlled conditions. There may be some clever or subtle technique which could cause the hidden usage to weight the numbers obtained from the visible usage (as in estimating the numbers of fish in the sea), but I don't think it's been found yet (though I and someone else are working on it; if we get anywhere we'll be letting people know). Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 24-Apr-99 Time: 12:13:18 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5186957673411430284==-- From lpruf@stud.ee.ethz.ch Sat Apr 24 11:33:54 1999 From: lpruf@stud.ee.ethz.ch To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] threads programming Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:33:54 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1579795238702864204==" --===============1579795238702864204== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Johannes, Now, all my thread linkage works quite fine: I solved the problem by installing SuSE 6.0 new from scratch, i.e. I "formatted" first the disk and then installed it once more. Obviously I damaged something when I processed the Upgrades from 5.1 -> 5.3 -> 6.0. But who cares. Now it works fine: It might be possible that something with the libc.so.6 failed.... Another question: Does someone know how to handle different timers in a multithreaded program ? I program a strange server receiving UDP packets and buffering them. At a certain point of time a so called processor must compare and match all the packets against each other. The intervall between these processings should be about one second. Not to waste processing time I intended to implement a call to nanosleep(). This works with only one timed thread. But after the processing (ca. 0.5sec later) another thread must be started. There the call to nanosleep() fails, as only one timer can be installed in a program -- if I am not wrong. I know I could implement the different synchronizations using pthread_cond_wait()-mechanisms. But so I would lack the correctness in time. I'm sure no to be the first child programming a multithreaded application that makes use of nearly the same given problem.=20 If anyone can give me a usefull hint, I would appreciate that. Thanks in advance. Lukas -- *** ALWAYS MAILTO: "Lukas Ruf " *** Lukas Ruf // Neugutstr. 9 // 8002 Zurich // Switzerland // +41-1-2813545 (PGP2.6.3) Fingerprint =3D 37CF 3AB4 B0F7 0AF5 C308 4188 8C10 86FE -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1579795238702864204==-- From jljr@globalfrontiers.com Sat Apr 24 12:15:39 1999 From: jljr@globalfrontiers.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] RealAudio & Netscape Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 08:15:39 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5119868423212041264==" --===============5119868423212041264== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We installed Realaudio 5.0 and it works if we type in rvplayer. We also added everything to netscape as per instructions, but nNetscape won't call up Rvplayer. If we delete the .netscpae directory and all subdirectories and start over, Netscape already has the correct information in the applications section, at least if looks like the example htmls included with realplayer. Any ideas what we have wrong? Realplayer will work with netscape, but netscape won't call up realplayer, it acts like it will donwnloads a few seconds and says done. thanks in advance=20 joe ---------------------------------- E-Mail: jljr(a)globalfrontiers.com Date: 24-Apr-99 Time: 08:11:31 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5119868423212041264==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 24 12:36:13 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel problems Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 07:36:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3721BABD.473C6827@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <19990424085346.387.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1319967488497070478==" --===============1319967488497070478== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jon Pennington wrote: > > I'd like to thank you all for your kind and generous advice. I seem to > have fixed all of the problems I was having, and an absolute minimum of > new ones have appeared in their place ;). I finally found the SuSE rpm > for kernel 2.2.5, removed my generic source tree, installed the SuSE one, > and made the kernel. Much to my suprise (well, not really), the new > kernel worked, as did most of the modules I built along with it. I do > have a couple of weird things I'd like to get rid of, however. > > The boot messages list two modules (actually three, but I only have a par- > tial name for the third) that it cannot load. The first one, that I only > have a partial name for, is something like cp437. The next is a codepage > nls_iso8859-1. The final rogue module is char_major_4, which the screen > reports to be missing some eight or nine times. > Edit /etc/conf.modules and add: alias char-major-4 off and notice that it is hyphens, not underscores. > A final thorn in my side is my ATAPI Zip drive. The firmware revision is > 13A, so the drive is aged. I made an entry in my /etc/fstab to mount my > Zip as /dev/hdb4, which puts the volume as the fourth partition on the > secondary device of my primary controller. According to all of the FAQ's, > the disks that come IBM pre-formatted have the meat of the disk (some > 96megs) on this fourth partition. The entry in /etc/fstab tries to mount > it as vfat, which I can only assume is correct. However... > > When I look at /var/log/boot.msg, this line stands out: > > <5>hdb: The drive reports both 100663296 and 100646912 bytes as its > capacity > > And when I try to mount the device at /zip, I get this: > > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb4, or too > many mounted file systems See the attached file about my experiments with a zip drive connected to a second parallel port. > > Any ideas? > > -=|JP|=- -- JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right.
#!/bin/bash
# this script must be run as root or su. Keeping the su term open 
# allows you to jump back and forth to mount and unmount zip drives. 
# You can unmount as a user but you cannot mount as a user.  I need
# to put this module loading command in a boot-time script some
# place.
#
# the lilo.conf has the following line:  append="ppa=0x278,0" prior
# to any device stanzas, and /bin/sbin/lilo has been run to update
# the loader.
#
# formatting  or reformatting a zipdrive:  
# first, be sure a previously formatted disk is in the drive before running
# the modprobe command below.  This allows the modprobe to get the correct
# size from the hardware.  After the modeprobe is run then either the
# mount command is executed to mount the disk that is in the drive, or that
# disk is replaced with an unformated disk and the following command is run:

# mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sda4 98288   
# or
# mke2fs /dev/sda4
#
# the value 98288 was reported by the fsck program. The following was reported
# by the modprobe program:
#  Cylinders:         96
#  Sectors:         196608 [96 MB]
#  Bytes/Sector:     512
# 
# I computed 96 * 512 * 2048 = 100,663,296 bytes per disk, or 98304 blocks.
# When I used that value in the mkfs command it seemed to work, and still
# does, but when I checked with fsck it reported an error and gave the
# "should be" value of 98288 given above, which is 100,646,912 bytes per disk.
#
# mounting a formatted drive: 
#mount -t ext2 /dev/sda4 /mnt/zipdrv
#
/sbin/modprobe /lib/modules/2.0.35/scsi/ppa.o 0x278,0


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From anavarro@cyberclub.net Sat Apr 24 13:07:06 1999
From: anavarro@cyberclub.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [SuSE Linux] Samba and novell problem
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 08:07:06 -0500
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Hi
I am configuring a linux server and workstation for my company but i have 3
problem

1.- The Samba work fine at this time but i dont not where is the procedure
for configured the restriccions for the people. At this time the people see
all files and directorys and i need close the security.

2.- I am use the dos-emu and this work fine but i need a virtual disk more
big, at this time this is only 1.44 image and is very small for my network.

3.- The Dos-EMU not conect with the novell server ( 4.11) i am following all
instruccions and the conection is imposible ( IPX is up and the TCP/IP in
novell is UP )

Pls HEEEELLLLLLLPPP  my tks

excuseme for my English ..   :-))

Alejandro Navarro
anavarro(a)cyberclub.net
Dpto de Sistemas
Ofinet Ltda
Barranquila Colombia


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From wybo@servalys.hobby.nl Sat Apr 24 14:01:26 1999
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Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] how to switch apsfilter settings?
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:01:26 +0200
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Josh Rodman wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Hello Wybo,
>=20
> * Wybo Dekker (wybo(a)servalys.hobby.nl) [990421 02:28]:
> >=20
> > Hi,=20
> >=20
> > I like apsfilter and have set FEATURE=3D2. But sometimes I would like to
> > temporarily set it to 1l, without actually changing apsfilterrc. Is
> > there a way to do that via a lpr-parameter or an environment variable
> > or otherwise?=20
>=20
> Well, if you happen to be using LPRng (you aren't by default), it's as
> simple as=20
>=20
>     lpr -Z feature=3D2=20
>=20
> or whatever other feature setting you might want.  The default lp system
> supplied with SuSE doesn't support this -Z switch (and if what you have is
> working, I'll be the last to suggest changing it for one whizzy
> feature).

OK, I can't find anything about LPRng anyway. Not in yast, not in my
machine and not in any of the SuSE-6.0 cd's.=20

> You could also create an additional printer queue which is configured just
> like the one you have now, but with a different feature setting.  You can
> choose the feature string in a printer-by-printer basis in the file
> /etc/apsfilterrc..
>=20
> Then you could name them printer.single and printer.double or something
> like this, so as to achieve a choice.
>=20
> lpr -Pprinter.single
> lpr -Pprinter.double

I tried to do something like that before, but I can't find out how to
create such an additional printer queue. I tried yast:

ystem administration ->
  integrate hardware ->
    configure printers

only to get a form where I can not enter a name like printer.single.
So I tried to add a PS_300dpi (alongside my existing PS_600dpi)
After that, I edited /etc/apsfilterrc.PS_300dpi to contain FEATURE=3D1l
and I could indeed print single column in landscape with=20

lpr -PPS_300dpi

which I finally gave an alias (lprw).
But I can hardly believe that this is the right way to do it. Is there
a better one?

--=20
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From kimwing@kimwing.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 24 14:07:39 1999
From: kimwing@kimwing.freeserve.co.uk
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] tar problems
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:07:39 +0100
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Hello
Can some one please help. Why is it that the tar program sonetimes generates "ghost files" which can be seen, but it's permissions can never be changed not even as root. These files can never be removed and have some obscure name made up of what seems like random characters. How can i stop these files from appearing and how do i get rid of those files which have appeared on my computer?
Kim Wing Fung
--===============6661482966902100313==-- From reaston@stny.rr.com Sat Apr 24 14:08:32 1999 From: reaston@stny.rr.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Can 95 read ext2 yet?? Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:08:32 -0400 Message-ID: <19990424141209.AAA21685@mail3.stny.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <3720FE62.D30DA58E@CFFtechnologies.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2830293945268514197==" --===============2830293945268514197== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll add that this program:
http://www.netusa.com/pacmicro/lin= uxindos.htm> is supposed to allow read access to an ext2 partition in a DOS=20 box - but in my case it couldn't even recognize that any Linux=20 partitions existed, so it was a bust. Perhaps the linux partion=20 needs to be non-logical, I don't know. The others are probably=20 better. -Bob On 23 Apr 99, at 18:12, Avi Schwartz wrote: >=20 > Steve, >=20 > I know of two: >=20 > 1) FSDEXT2 - Supports only read mode. I have used this one.=20 > http://www.yipton.demon.co.uk/> > 2) LREAD - Claims to support read and write. Never had a chance to use > this one. http://www.it= .fht-esslingen.de/~zimmerma/lread.htm> >=20 > Avi >=20 > stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote: > >=20 > > I was just wondering if the was anything out that would let 95/98 view a > > ext2 filesystem. Anyone? > >=20 > > Steve > >=20 > --=20 > Avi Schwartz Get a Life > avi(a)CFFtechnologies.com Get Linux > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this > text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the archive at > http://www.= suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2830293945268514197==-- From jpg@hpcvsjpg.cv.hp.com Sat Apr 24 14:14:23 1999 From: jpg@hpcvsjpg.cv.hp.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] DHCP Server on Linux? Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 07:14:23 -0700 Message-ID: <199904241414.HAA03783@hpcvsjpg.cv.hp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5186943786579444440==" --===============5186943786579444440== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello all, Does anyone know of some source code/documentation on making a SuSE 5.3 box also a DHCP server? jpg -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5186943786579444440==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Sat Apr 24 14:57:22 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 with British Telecom ISDN2e Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:57:22 +0100 Message-ID: <199904241457.PAA06718@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7675346016348169128==" --===============7675346016348169128== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello I think I've finally found a technical problem which no one=20 can understand or sort out. I'm just about to plug an ISDN2e system into my Linux 6.0 box. I=20 can't find anyone who can advise me about this. Apart from a few web=20 sites that give vague advice for cards that are not available in the=20 UK and the docs on the HD which are not written by someone from over=20 here there is nothing. Can anyone give helpful advice ? I'm thinking that the following cards may be useful...... Eicon Diva II http://www.cambrdidge-isdn.com> Trust Communicator ISDN 128 PCI British Telecom Speedway ISDN PCI http://www.foxdirect.com> As I say, the docs and man pages don't help at all. Thanks Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7675346016348169128==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 24 15:38:27 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:38:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3721E573.464D7E41@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990424094116.00fb800c@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3116114404001663502==" --===============3116114404001663502== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Samy Elashmawy wrote: >=20 > Jerry , >=20 > See my other reply re C/C++ , I would be interested in your comments. > I see that you are quite "bold" as some would say coming from the windows > workd. I have yet to take on Emacs or the other linux/unix editors. I found > them reakly confusuing to say the least. So I jave been using Joe for basic > editing. >=20 > What are3 codepage and codewarier ?? They are GUI Rapid Application Development (RAD) programs for writing code using C, python, or what have you. The major weakness, as far as attempting to be a RAD, is that they do not have connections to a native db backend nor to they allow for WYSIWYG screen development like VB or Delphi. =20 After reading what your intentions are concerning your business you might want to give an application generator program a look-see. One called "Magic" is at the following URL: http://www.magic-sw.com/> It is an SQL based GUI RAD system that generates an application by filling in templates. You attach it to backend you want to use (Oracle, Sybase, IntraBase, PostgreSQL,etc...) and start templating. I just received a CD of it this week. The demo CD that is being made available isn't very clean, IMHO, and is a quasi-port from the SCO unix system.=20 Back in the late eighties when I was using Advanced Revelation (a DOS based RAD with its own db backend - based on the Pick system) I encountered several DOS based Magic systems. After reviewing Magic my opinion is that it suffered from the same porting problems that AREV suffered from when porting to a GUI environment was done. The GUI version never had the ease and power of development, nor did the finished app have the speed of the DOS version. But, I mention it because you experience with it may be different. The KDE development team just released an SQL manager package called Kpsql that appears to duplicate what mpsql does. I feel that the Kpsql project can only get better as it expands into a complete RAD front end with API connections to PostgreSQL - but this won't help you now if you want something running on the store workstations by summer. That's why I mentioned pgaccess and Tcl. There is a nice development Tcl development package called Visual TCL that allows the generation of tcl applets (halfway between source code and compiled code, ie, pseudocode) and there is also a very nice interactive GUI Tcl tutorial package called TclTutor, which has over 100 lessons with interactive edit-run buttons. However, once you get into pgaccess and use it to start creating tables, forms, queries, reports, scripts, etc..., you may find that since it is already part of the PostgreSQL package that it will do what you need.=20 As time passes it, too, can only get better and it is a GPL rad tool that is available now. >=20 > What obsticals are you finding coming from the windows world?? Linux's explosive popularity during the last year has created a mass movement to it before GUI tools, similar in sophistication to those that windows developers are used to using, have become available as OpenSource. However, ncurses (similar to DOS) RAD tools are everywhere and many businesses prefer them because of the simplicity and speed of the apps developed. I would caution you against becoming entrapped in a propriatary GUI RAD tool which creates dependency on the software house=20 to publish fixes, patches, "upgrades" and which becomes a continual drain on revenues... i.e., the M$ marketing model. I am doing research to find replacements for Visual FoxPro, VB, Paradox where I work (a tax supported gov agency). We have over 30 servers and 300+ workstations. We recently completed our Win3.x upgrade to Win95 and the hardware-software cost alone was over 1/2 million dollars. The suits=20 have decided we can't afford the Win95 to WinXXX upgrade costs! The cyclic requirements to purchase more powerful PCs in order to run bloated and buggy "upgrades" for WinXX and the above mentioned development tools and axuillary software and office software (which all need upgraded to run with the newer activeX controls, dlls, etc..) are driving us from the Windows platform. And that is to say nothing of the stability of WinXX. So, even if a commercial GUI RAD development binaries were released I doubt that we would ever buy into that model again. If you want to, though, here is an example: http://www.conetic.com/free/freelis= t.html> You can find others under the "development/tools" section at the following URL: http://www.linuxapps.com/> If a business were to "buy" into a propriatary development tool it would make as much or better sense to buy a propriatary retail store app that does what you want and avoid the development hassle. ??? In my searches I have found several Unix-Linux retail store packages.=20 Some are VERY extensive and modular. Others are small and specific. A collection of URLs leading to such packages can be found at the following URL: http://www.hex.net/~cbbro= wne/financelinux.html> It is a big web page. The stuff you'd be interested in is in the bottom half of the sites listed.=20 >=20 > Re postgress , I am prety sure that I have it installed , and I think that > pgacces is properly installed as well. I plan on reading over the docs this > weekend , then I will tackle the configuration and enviormet settings. > Next I will go on with the tutoriaol. I just finished printing out the > tutorial , users guid and admoin guid. Man , thats a ton of paper , Not to > mention the rogrames guide , that in of its self is a ton ot print out. >=20 > Thanks for your input . >=20 I am sticking with PostgreSQL because it is one horse of a db engine and when concurrency comes out (ver 6.5) it will be even better. While Oracle is, no doubt, the best db engine on the planet, PostgreSQL is equal to or better than any other that I've used or studied. That includes Sybase, InterBase, xbase clones including foxpro, watcom, linear hash, btree, msaccess (which goes without saying, but I did anyway ;-), ISAM, and an assorted of lessor known and used stuff. In otherwords, not many other engines can match what PostgreSQL brings to the table in ver 6.4. And, it's GPL! It prices well against Oracle, too! ;-) --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3116114404001663502==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 24 15:48:16 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] tar problems Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:48:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3721E7C0.FF0F5FA4@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <001301be8e5b$d129d3a0$0e32883e@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5007286967449542121==" --===============5007286967449542121== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Kim Wing Fung wrote: >=20 > Hello >=20 > Can some one please help. Why is it that the tar program > sonetimes generates "ghost files" which can be seen, but it's > permissions can never be changed not even as root. These files can > never be removed and have some obscure name made up of what seems like > random characters. How can i stop these files from appearing and how > do i get rid of those files which have appeared on my computer? >=20 > Kim Wing Fung I don't know of any "ghost" files that root doesn't have permission to manipulate. Can you give more information? Do a directory listing into a text file (# vdir > mydirlisting.txt &) and attach it to your next email so we can take a look at what the file tags are. Also, which version of the tar program are you using, and which tarballs did you open that produced these ghost files? --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5007286967449542121==-- From paspartu@uni.net Sat Apr 24 16:08:49 1999 From: paspartu@uni.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Power_saver Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:08:49 +0200 Message-ID: <99042418181500.00279@kamikazen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7701140351402878998==" --===============7701140351402878998== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ciao, my monitor (a Philips 105MB) supports the energy saving mode. I got a look at= =20 XF86Config (man 5). It seems that I need to insert the line: Options "power_saver" on the section Device along with one more option among: BlankTime StandbyTime SuspendTime OffTime I am always a bit scared to play with monitor setting since I've broken one := -( Anyone is currently using this option? TIA Maurizio -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7701140351402878998==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 24 17:28:15 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] tar problems Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:28:15 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3721E7C0.FF0F5FA4@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5799853017209011432==" --===============5799853017209011432== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > > Kim Wing Fung wrote: > >=20 > > Hello > >=20 > > Can some one please help. Why is it that the tar program > > sonetimes generates "ghost files" which can be seen, but it's > > permissions can never be changed not even as root. These files can > > never be removed and have some obscure name made up of what seems like > > random characters. How can i stop these files from appearing and how > > do i get rid of those files which have appeared on my computer? > >=20 > > Kim Wing Fung >=20 > I don't know of any "ghost" files that root doesn't have permission to > manipulate. > Can you give more information? >=20 > Do a directory listing into a text file (# vdir > mydirlisting.txt &) Auughh! Why on earth wouldn't you just do `ls -l > mydirlisting`? Remember, you're not in DOS anymore. ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5799853017209011432==-- From chris@usma.demon.co.uk Sat Apr 24 17:40:42 1999 From: chris@usma.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 with British Telecom ISDN2e Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:40:42 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199904241457.PAA06718@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1626644286450844195==" --===============1626644286450844195== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:57:22 +0100, you wrote: > >Hello > I think I've finally found a technical problem which no one=20 >can understand or sort out. > > I'm just about to plug an ISDN2e system into my Linux 6.0 box. I=20 >can't find anyone who can advise me about this. Apart from a few web=20 >sites that give vague advice for cards that are not available in the=20 >UK and the docs on the HD which are not written by someone from over=20 >here there is nothing. > > Can anyone give helpful advice ? > > I'm thinking that the following cards may be useful...... > > Eicon Diva II http://www.cambrdidge-isdn.com> > Trust Communicator ISDN 128 PCI > British Telecom Speedway ISDN PCI > http://www.foxdirect.com> > I got ISDN last September, and I got a Sedlbauer Speedcard (about 45 quid from Germany). I'd stick with German cards (I'm sure you know the BT Speedway is a re-badged AVM card) as a) they're the best, and b) they use Siemens chips which are fully supported by SuSE. The Eicons are good cards (by reputation) but you don't need to spend more that 50 quid to get everything you need for a basic card. =20 --=20 Chris Keenan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1626644286450844195==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sat Apr 24 18:00:09 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] tar problems Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:00:09 -0500 Message-ID: <372206A9.896B239C@navix.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3629374223172836083==" --===============3629374223172836083== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ewan Dunbar wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > > > > > Kim Wing Fung wrote: > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > Can some one please help. Why is it that the tar program > > > sonetimes generates "ghost files" which can be seen, but it's > > > permissions can never be changed not even as root. These files can > > > never be removed and have some obscure name made up of what seems like > > > random characters. How can i stop these files from appearing and how > > > do i get rid of those files which have appeared on my computer? > > > > > > Kim Wing Fung > > > > I don't know of any "ghost" files that root doesn't have permission to > > manipulate. > > Can you give more information? > > > > Do a directory listing into a text file (# vdir > mydirlisting.txt &) >=20 > Auughh! Why on earth wouldn't you just do `ls -l > mydirlisting`? Which is easier to type and doesn't require switches? ;-) > Remember, you're not in DOS anymore. Why don't you help Kim with the problem instead of making petty criticisms of someone who IS trying to help. =20 Remember, it doesn't take any talent to shoot the wounded or eat the young... --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3629374223172836083==-- From jzents@earthlink.net Sat Apr 24 19:49:20 1999 From: jzents@earthlink.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] KFM and KFMSU Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:49:20 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be8e8b$8bbf9720$659a2499@pin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5897082247646671955==" --===============5897082247646671955== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I upgraded = from 5.3=20 to 6.0. Everything seems ok. But when I try to run KFM from my=20 non-root login in nothing happens and then kpanel will not respond and I have= to=20 logoff and login to X again. I can run the kfm in Superuser mode, but if I=20 shut it down it also takes kpanel out and I have to logout and in again. =20 When I start kfm in su mode it always says it cannot open a file in one of th= e=20 kde folders in the /tmp dir called index.txt. The kde folder in the=20 /tmp varies depending on if I am in as root or not. I have checked and the=20 files exists in both folders and seems to have the correct permissions. =20 Has anyone seen or heard of this problem? Has there been a thread here=20 that I missed that addressed the problem? Any info or help would be=20 greatly appreciated.
Jeff=20 Zents
--===============5897082247646671955==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Sat Apr 24 19:57:07 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:57:07 -0700 Message-ID: <37222213.744D9884@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990423181429.0105f778@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9121837074595178027==" --===============9121837074595178027== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Samy Elashmawy wrote: >=20 > Hi folks, Hope some of you can help me out here. > I have dabbled in programing a bit , started out with Clarion for dos , > worked a little with clipper and am now currently using Borlands Delphi. >=20 > I am now looking to slowly move to linux . I have gotten really tired of > reloading windows and dealing with the "driver shuffle" and "plug and play" > that every few months changes every thing around on you. >=20 > My level of programing is somewhere between novice and intermediate. For > what thats worth. I am real short on time , but ofton play at home . In > other words , I really don't want to learn a whole lot of languages , but > would rather put my time into one language that can handle what I want to d= o. >=20 > SO IF YOU HAD ONLY ONE WHICH WOULD IT BE ? >=20 > JAVA - tCL/Tkl - Perl or Other?? >=20 > What libs / Third Party variety extensions-addins / reporting tools / > database tools are there for your tool of choice ?? >=20 > What will work with SQL ie postgres ect... >=20 > Is it RAD ?? >=20 > Why have you choosen it ?? >=20 > Like I said , I want to do database apps and general business programing. > Not games ect... You know, fortunately, you do not need to choose between Perl, Tcl/Tk and Java because you have them all. Perl/Tcl is an attractive combination because of the text processing capabilities and protability of Perl and the relative ease of creating an interface and portability of Tcl/Tk. There are commercial solutions, the best of which I have seen is WebObjects from Apple. There is also Web Sphere from IBM. For a novice in programming, which is where I came from to Linux, Perl is probably the best to start with. Yeah, it looks a little scary and allows you to step on your own feet, but so does C without being as flexable. As Perl's creator Larry Wall says, Perl makes great glue. It can help you tie together all sorts of stuff, not the least of which is databases. It even has special modules for them. It's also better than learning shell programming, awk and sed :-) --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * =20 Was there no communication in this car. Had we deteriorated to =20 the level of dumb beasts? * * -Hunter S. Thompson * =20 * * * * * -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9121837074595178027==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Sat Apr 24 20:07:43 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Power_saver Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:07:43 -1000 Message-ID: <3722248F.11EB4CB3@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <99042418181500.00279@kamikazen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5849051824156524056==" --===============5849051824156524056== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maurizio Firmani wrote: >=20 > Ciao, > my monitor (a Philips 105MB) supports the energy saving mode. I got a look = at > XF86Config (man 5). It seems that I need to insert the line: > Options "power_saver" on the section Device along with one more option amon= g: >=20 > BlankTime > StandbyTime > SuspendTime > OffTime >=20 > I am always a bit scared to play with monitor setting since I've broken one= :-( >=20 > Anyone is currently using this option? Here's my device section: Section "Device" Identifier "Trio32/Trio64" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" #VideoRam 2048 # Use Option "nolinear" if the server doesn't start up correctly # (this avoids the linear framebuffer probe). If that fails try # option "nomemaccess". # # Refer to /usr/X11R6/lib/doc/README.S3, and the XF86_S3 man page. # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate Option "power_saver" EndSection Straight SaX generated with the one line added. The monitor blanks in 5 minutes and shuts down shortly afterward. I, too, toasted a monitor trying to get the right configuration (I was using Slackware), so I understand. --=20 George Toft http://gtoft.dynip.com/LinuxAdvocate= /> __ __ _ __ __ __ ___ ___ | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / -o) | | | | | \_| | | | | | \ \/ / (o- /\\ | |__ | | | | | |_| | / /\ \ //\ _\_v |_____||__| |__|\___| \_______| /__/ \__\ v_/_ Don't fear the penguins... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5849051824156524056==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 24 20:48:41 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] tar problems Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:48:41 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <372206A9.896B239C@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5527115871585614346==" --===============5527115871585614346== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > Ewan Dunbar wrote: > >=20 > > On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > >=20 > > > > > > > Kim Wing Fung wrote: > > > > > > > I don't know of any "ghost" files that root doesn't have permission to > > > manipulate. > > > Can you give more information? > > > > > > Do a directory listing into a text file (# vdir > mydirlisting.txt &) > >=20 > > Auughh! Why on earth wouldn't you just do `ls -l > mydirlisting`? >=20 > Which is easier to type and doesn't require switches? ;-) >=20 >=20 > > Remember, you're not in DOS anymore. >=20 > Why don't you help Kim with the problem instead of making petty > criticisms of someone who IS trying to help. =20 >=20 > Remember, it doesn't take any talent to shoot the wounded or eat the > young... I was just talking about the ".txt" on the end. Besides, I wasn't claiming to be doing anything more than being petty... ------------------------------------------------ Ewan Dunbar northsky(a)ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------ Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.htm= l> ------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5527115871585614346==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Sat Apr 24 21:02:32 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl vs perl vs whatever Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:02:32 -1000 Message-ID: <37223168.E9E3F1E6@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990421100409.0115d4ac@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3508830718955972178==" --===============3508830718955972178== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since you're making this a custom app, here's another option that may be worth considering: I wrote a relational database using the bash shell, and used a web server to interface the database to multiple users. The application was an online mortgage application, where potential borrowers apply on-line. Banks, also use the web to enter data and update their database. Feel free to demo it as a borrower here: http://gtoft.dynip.com/owl> and as a lender here: http://gtoft.dynip.com/owl/lender-main.= html> And more information here: http://gtoft.dynip.com/= cgi-bin/owl/lender-server.sh> (Note: The labor hours quoted in the above link include fully documenting the project, managing the project's costs and resources, and training the other members of the team in bash programming.) This is completely written in bash. There is a javascript calculator on one page. That's the only non-bash code in the whole application. The lender pages were hand-coded, and the borrower information gathering pages were written using MS FrontPage, then hand-edited to remove all the trashy HTML (over 90% reduction in size). The advantage of such a system is it will work on any Linux server, and any Unix server (with a few changes), and the clients can be any platform with a browser. This allows you the flexibility of keeping your Windows clients, and using a Linux server. Another advantage is that no compiler is necessary=20 for this application to work. I've recently found that having a compiler on a server connected to the Internet is a real bad thing (see=20 http://gtoft/dynip.com/worm>). The disadvantage of how I did it is that as the database grows, it slows down tremendously. As a rapid prototype, it works great, and proves algorithm correctness. The final implemetation should use a SQL database, however, we (the group of us that created OWL) chose to use bash because our first SQL database's response times really sucked. Many Linux gurus are quite surprised that we pulled=20 this off totally in bash. Keep in mind, this application is fully interactive, performs user error-checking, performs many advanced database functions, and uses dynamic HTML as output. Even though perl, Java and Tcl support networking, I prefer using CGI scripting for client-server applications because of the flexibility in client operating systems, and it totally relieves me of worrying about the client side - I only have to focus on the server side of the house. So many options... --=20 George Toft http://gtoft.dynip.com/LinuxAdvocate= /> __ __ _ __ __ __ ___ ___ | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / -o) | | | | | \_| | | | | | \ \/ / (o- /\\ | |__ | | | | | |_| | / /\ \ //\ _\_v |_____||__| |__|\___| \_______| /__/ \__\ v_/_ Don't fear the penguins... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3508830718955972178==-- From hagen@labpar.fcfm.buap.mx Sat Apr 24 21:11:36 1999 From: hagen@labpar.fcfm.buap.mx To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] HPscanjet5100c Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:11:36 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1034760436580276282==" --===============1034760436580276282== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi!. There are drivers for scanners!?. if ... yes!. Where can i get them!? At SuSE's page there is something about scanner under Linux. Regards!. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1034760436580276282==-- From mperry@basin.com Sat Apr 24 21:20:55 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Gnome rpms on Suse's ftp site Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:20:55 -0700 Message-ID: <19990424142054.A2401@basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1964129111497170679==" --===============1964129111497170679== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I apologize profusely for asking this but had some slight issues lately so... I remember reading that people had changed over to the suse supplied rpms for gnome 1.0.x and had had the earlier rpms from Germany on their SuSE 6 boxes. How was this done exactly? Did you remove the rpms? What happened with the self-compiled programs? I compiled the gnome-pim and other stuff. Thanks for any pointers or resources that you have on this. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1964129111497170679==-- From bushman@btinternet.com Sat Apr 24 21:36:37 1999 From: bushman@btinternet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Printer Query Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:36:37 +0100 Message-ID: <37223965.E6B68219@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0560089440245351202==" --===============0560089440245351202== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I have a Panasonic Laser printer: KX-P6300. Can someone please tell me if I can get it to work under Linux. My thanks in advance. Bushman. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0560089440245351202==-- From jrodman@suse.com Sat Apr 24 23:20:27 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] linux on dell poweredge 2300 Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:20:27 -0700 Message-ID: <19990424162027.L7135@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3279488941546151467==" --===============3279488941546151467== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ian, * Ian M. Moore (imm(a)KidsCare.Net) [990422 07:50]: > Soon I will be given the opportunity to install linux on a Dell Poweredge > 2300.(vacuum cleaner ) > The only problem I see right now is it has scsi hotswapable harddrives. > Has anyone installed linux on such a machine? > Any info much appreciated. > Thanks, > Ian =20 Well, the Hotswapping SCSI hard drives can't be a problem if you don't swap them. :-) More seriously, hot swapping is a bit of a complicated topic. =20 Some SCSI chassis are set up with external drive bays with integrated connectors on the back so drives can be added or removed with one action. These are not necessarily hot swappable at all, although some manage to get away with doing so (hey.. some people overclock their processors too, and it even works sometimes.) In this sort of a system there is _no_ guarantee that the SCSI bus will maintain integrity when attaching or detaching components. You could concievably harm SCSI components doing this, as well as loose data on the bus. Some SCSI systems you have proper attachment and detachment connectors with will maintain the bus' electrical properties and allow SCSI devices=20 to come and go without corrupting signals on the bus. However, the SCSI controller (in hardware, firmware, or both), SCSI driver, and opreating system must all be equipped to handle the removal and addition of SCSI devices. This sort of thing is less frequently done than many other SCSI configurations, so problems can exist at any of the three areas I mentioned. Nowhere in my brief reading was there any sort of statement that claimed the ability of the Linux SCSI subsystem was very robust and well tested in this sort of situation, but many posters seemed comfortable doing so. A bash script to force a SCSI bus rescan was posted in a discussion an ncr mailing list archived here:=20 http://linuxwww.db.= erau.edu/mail_archives/ncr/Oct_98/> The script in question was attached to this message: h= ttp://linuxwww.db.erau.edu/mail_archives/ncr/Oct_98/0010.html> You might well want to skim through the SCSI Programming HOWTO: http:= //metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/SCSI-Programming-HOWTO.html> or zless /usr/doc/howto/en/SCSI-Programming-HOWTO.gz This is also touched on by a page on RAID Solutions for Linux Hot-Plug Support=20 Linux supports "hot-plug" SCSI in the sense that SCSI devices can be removed and added without rebooting the machine. The procedures for this are documented in the SCSI Programming HOWTO. From the command-line, the commands are=20 echo "scsi remove-single-device host channel ID LUN " > /proc/scsi/scsi= =20 echo "scsi add-single-device host channel ID LUN " > /proc/scsi/scsi=20 Don't confuse this ability with the hot-plug support offered by vendors of outboard raid boxes.=20 I also recommend looking into the documentation for and comments in your particular SCSI controller's driver located in the directory /usr/src/linux/Documentation/drivers/scsi/. In any event, be sure to unmount your filesystems before you take the disks off-line. Meanwhile, if this is some sort of a hardware RAID system, this should all be transparent to the operating system and require no special configuration at all. These systems are very nice, but very expensive. Best of luck, -josh -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3279488941546151467==-- From nitebirdz@uswest.net Sat Apr 24 23:24:07 1999 From: nitebirdz@uswest.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:24:07 -0500 Message-ID: <37225297.D6FE175D@uswest.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4930836128613606639==" --===============4930836128613606639== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paul M. Foster wrote: >=20 > On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote: >=20 > > > > I hope SuSE "takes notice." > > >=20 > Well, this nice GUI install is nifty for the Microsofties out there, but I > really would prefer to have my console based install instead. >=20 > Paul Foster >=20 ...and how about having both choices? Linux is supposed to offer more choices than say Windows, for instance. That's the beauty of this OS.=20 You like your console? Go ahead, and use it. However, other people may prefer nice little GUIs. Not only that, but if we manage to make it easy for them too Linux may end up becoming more popular. Nitebirdz --=20 It's not too late to turn back from the "Gates" of Hell...=20 Linux: the free 32-bit operating system, available NOW.=20 Why waaaaaait for NT? (Brandon S. Allbery) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4930836128613606639==-- From daleg@preferred.com Sat Apr 24 23:48:05 1999 From: daleg@preferred.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Printer Query Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:48:05 +0000 Message-ID: <37225835.AA279F69@preferred.com> In-Reply-To: <37223965.E6B68219@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0062956172467462653==" --===============0062956172467462653== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bushman wrote: >=20 > Hello all, >=20 > I have a Panasonic Laser printer: KX-P6300. Can someone please tell > me if I can get it to work under Linux. >=20 > My thanks in advance. >=20 > Bushman. >=20 > -- Don't know for sure about the KX-P6300 but, I have an old KX-SP100 and it works fine set up as an HP IIp. I'll just bet yours will work with some HP filter. You might check the printer manual; it might give an indication as to possible emulations. Good Luck.=20 Dale -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0062956172467462653==-- From kimwing@kimwing.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 25 00:12:20 1999 From: kimwing@kimwing.freeserve.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] tar problems Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:12:20 +0100 Message-ID: <002901be8eb0$5a5bb360$5137883e@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2914219716770204724==" --===============2914219716770204724== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello
Sorry for not=20 elaborating more on the problem.. Anyway.. What happens is that i do the=20 following:
tar zxf /path/to/and/including/filename
for items such as the linux kernel this works and i get t= he=20 required items (the linux kernel), but for some files such as the darwin proj= ect=20 (mac kernel) (www.publicsource.apple.com) ta= r=20 file i get files which when i use command to look at the files=20 properties tells me i have only read access and there is no way, no matter wh= at=20 the priverliges, i can change them to write so that i can delete them. =20 These files have the obscured names such as=20 "%^$£&*£^£@@£"!*^&(?@<><%$&>" =20 and it is these i refer to as ghost files.. They can't be deleted and they=20 can't be accessed or modified in any way. Please help...
Kim Wing=20 Fung
--===============2914219716770204724==-- From paulf@quillandmouse.com Sun Apr 25 00:23:35 1999 From: paulf@quillandmouse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] On board graphics Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:23:35 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1109581097464428098==" --===============1109581097464428098== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24 Apr 1999, Andy Thomson wrote: >=20 > At work I am using a WinChip C6 PC with onboard sound and graphics. > The sound is is fine OSS detects it and it works. The Graphics are > different I am using the the generic drivers SVGA under card selection > in SaX. Yet when I move or minimise windows white shading is left > where the top of thw window use to be. The graphics chip is identified I believe this is an artifact of the way your KDE is set up. Go into the KDE control center, look for Windows then Properties. Change Window Movement to transparent. > by Windows 95 as SiS 5597/8, and thoes PCs seem fine. The other thing > is the boot screen of the PC says it has 2M of GFX ram yet Sax insists > it has 1M. What should my settings be? >=20 Well they should be how much video RAM you actually have. Remember, you're the boss, not SaX ;-) Paul Foster -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1109581097464428098==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sun Apr 25 02:00:14 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] CNET News.com - Microsoft sued over digital rights software Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:00:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3722772E.4CADB064@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5850854187442618561==" --===============5850854187442618561== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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    --===============5850854187442618561==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sun Apr 25 02:12:15 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] LINUX SECURITY PROBLEMS AND PATCHES Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:12:15 -0400 Message-ID: <372279FF.B1DC7850@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0331938496072286011==" --===============0331938496072286011== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LINUX SECURITY PROBLEMS AND PATCHES=20 Caldera OpenLinux security information can be found at:=20 http://www.caldera.co= m/news/security/index.html>=20 Debian GNU/Linux maintain a security web page at:=20 http://www.debian.org/security/>=20 =20 Red Hat Linux maintain a support page at:=20 http://www.redhat.com/support/>=20 Redhat ftp site:=20 ftp://updates.redhat.com/>=20 =20 The latest Slackware release and patches can be found at:=20 ftp://cdrom.com/pub/linux>=20 S.u.S.E. information can be found at:=20 h= ttp://www.suse.com>=20 ---------------=20 Caldera:=20 No new reports this period. ---------------=20 Debian:=20 No new reports this period. ---------------=20 Red Hat Linux: A) 04/08/99 - A potential Denial of Service issue has been fixed for ippl (IP protocol logger) for Linux variations Red Hat and Debian. It was released by the maintainer and announced on the Freshmeat web site. Specific ftp sites and other information is available at: =20 http://tx.us.mirrors.freshmeat.net/news/1999/04/08/923586598.html> --------------- B) 04/01/99 - Red Hat announced several security related fixes and updates affecting packages pine, mutt, zgv and sysklogd in addition to the XFree86 issues that have plagued Linux this month (see other references below). More information and updates/fixes are available at: http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/rh52-errata-general.html\ #XFree86 --------------- C) 03/09/99 - Network Associates issued a security advisory regarding an TCP/IP implementation flaw in Linux kernel, up to and including 2.0.35, that can result in spoofing of TCP connections without having to guess the TCP sequence numbers. NAI refers to this as "Blind TCP Spoofing." The problem arises due to the result of three separate flaws which are discussed in detail in the advisory. The problem is corrected in version 2.0.36 of the kernel. CIAC published a bulletin in response to the NAI advisory and it can be found at: http://www.ciac.org/ciac/= bulletins/j-035.shtml> --------------- Slackware has no official security reports pages. However, a scan of their reported updates (found in the ChangeLog history) to the current version of slackware indicate that it contains fixes for the rsync, procmail and samba packages. More information can be found at: ftp://cd= rom.com/pub/linux/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt> --------------- S.u.S.E.: A) 03/28/99 - S.u.S.E. reported a security hole in the xfree86 package xf86-3.3.3-5, that allows for root level privilege to be exercised. Patches and additional information can be found at: =20 http://www.suse.de/security/announcements/suse-security-announ= ce-3.txt> --------------- B) 03/19/99 - SuSE reported a fix from Netscape for Communicator 4.5-9. A vulnerability in the talkback utility allowed for creation of links and overwriting of files that could be used maliciously. For more information see the page at: =20 http://www.suse.de/security/announcements/suse-security-announ= ce-2.txt> --------------- C) 03/19/99 - SuSE reported the Blind TCP Spoof vulnerability for all Linux 2.0.x kernels except 2.0.36 which makes blind ip-spoofing possible. The default permissions on /dev/kmem are insecure. Install version 2.0.36 or 2.2.* of Linux kernels. For more information and site locations visit: http://www.suse.de/security/announcements/suse-security-annou= nce-1.txt> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0331938496072286011==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sun Apr 25 02:15:49 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] CNN - NT looking great -- on paper - April 21, 1999 Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:15:49 -0400 Message-ID: <37227AD5.3590D2B1@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0904076397341528866==" --===============0904076397341528866== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://ww= w.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9904/21/ntpaper.ent.idg/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0904076397341528866==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 25 02:37:09 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] tar problems Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:37:09 -0500 Message-ID: <37227FD5.4D22970B@navix.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8278163090863927419==" --===============8278163090863927419== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ewan Dunbar wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > > Ewan Dunbar wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Kim Wing Fung wrote: > > > > > > > > > I don't know of any "ghost" files that root doesn't have permission to > > > > manipulate. > > > > Can you give more information? > > > > > > > > Do a directory listing into a text file (# vdir > mydirlisting.txt &) > > > > > > Auughh! Why on earth wouldn't you just do `ls -l > mydirlisting`? > > > > Which is easier to type and doesn't require switches? ;-) > > > > > > > Remember, you're not in DOS anymore. > > > > Why don't you help Kim with the problem instead of making petty > > criticisms of someone who IS trying to help. > > > > Remember, it doesn't take any talent to shoot the wounded or eat the > > young... >=20 > I was just talking about the ".txt" on the end. Besides, I wasn't claiming > to be doing anything more than being petty... >=20 You've succeeded admirably! ;-) --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8278163090863927419==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 25 02:40:59 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] tar problems Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:40:59 -0500 Message-ID: <372280BB.134CDC4C@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <002901be8eb0$5a5bb360$5137883e@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3893075674948945215==" --===============3893075674948945215== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Kim Wing Fung wrote: >=20 > Hello >=20 > Sorry for not elaborating more on the problem.. Anyway.. What > happens is that i do the following: >=20 > tar zxf /path/to/and/including/filename >=20 > for items such as the linux kernel this works and i get the required > items (the linux kernel), but for some files such as the darwin > project (mac kernel) (www.publicsource.apple.com) tar file i get files > which when i use command to look at the files properties tells > me i have only read access and there is no way, no matter what the > priverliges, i can change them to write so that i can delete them. > These files have the obscured names such as > "%^$=C2=A3&*=C2=A3^=C2=A3@@=C2=A3"!*^&(?@<><%$&>" and it is these i refer = to as ghost > files.. They can't be deleted and they can't be accessed or modified > in any way. Please help... >=20 > Kim Wing Fung It looks like you were trying to install mac software on a linux box... Let's see if we can sneak the names to the rm command... Log in as root. Stay in the console mode. Run the mc command (Midnight commander pgm). In the left panel (or the right, it doesn't matter) navigate to the directory in which the ghost files exist. With the mouse, right-click on the ghost files to highlight them. Now press the F8 key to delete them. Hope it works! JLK --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3893075674948945215==-- From jrodman@suse.com Sun Apr 25 02:46:09 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Books Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:46:09 -0700 Message-ID: <19990424194609.M7135@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: <004501be8cec$1abfcae0$c901a8c0@rw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5299018645582093421==" --===============5299018645582093421== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Richard, * Richard Williamson (richwill(a)innotts.co.uk) [990422 12:15]: > Hi all, > Let me explain my situation: >=20 > I am a teacher in an Inner City school in Nottingham, England. We can get > just enough money (10K GBP)from a company for 30 PCs - and it _must_ be > spent on 30 PCs. With this money we can't afford software, and I am > contemplating running SuSE with KDE on these machines. This will be running > from an NT4 server (sorry!). >=20 > I am a newbie of a few months with Linux and don't really know the > intricacies of getting Linux to happily talk with NTFS partitions etc. > Could anyone recommend a good book explaining: > NTFS issues > Tying in with NT security > Desktop security > Printer networking > etc. >=20 > I realise that It's a bit odd having Linux running off an NT server, but > what the hell! It's this or nothing. Anyway, I fancy a challenge :) While it is more focused on setting up Samba systems to integrate as servers in Windows environments, "Samba: Integrating UNIX and Windows" touches on all the relevant topics. It also gets rave reviews from knowledgable people everywhere.=20 Evaluate for yourself whether it sounds like something you'd find useful: http://www.ssc.com/ssc/samba/> Additionally, as you may be new to unix, and may end up being the 'sysadmin' for these machines, you probably could use a crash course on linux as well as general SysAdmin text. The crash course book I used was called Running Linux, by Matt Welsh. It's a bit dated by now, but still useful, and I haven't heard of a real successor. Info: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/runux2/> Purchase: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obido= s/ASIN/1565921275/ref=3Dsim_books/002-0340287-6456460> As for keeping those 30 systems tamed, a crash course on managing computers might not be too bad. I learned from Aeleen Frisch's "Essential System Adminstration", which I liked a good deal. Other people I have talked to preferred 'The Red Book', which I believe is the one I have listed below. I've not read it myself and can't say. Essential System Administration info:=20 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/esa2/> purchase: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obido= s/ASIN/1565921275/ref=3Dsim_books/002-0340287-6456460> Unix System Administration Handbook http://www= .amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0131510517/o/qid=3D925007413/sr=3D2-3/002-034028= 7-6456460> Of course, there's always the free books from the Linux Documentation Project. Here's a British mirror. =20 http://ldp.dgc-nms.co.uk/ldp/> They should get your feet wet nicely. > regards > Richard WIlliamson Best of luck, -josh -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5299018645582093421==-- From daleg@preferred.com Sun Apr 25 03:22:02 1999 From: daleg@preferred.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Books Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 03:22:02 +0000 Message-ID: <37228A5A.AFFDDC1B@preferred.com> In-Reply-To: <19990424194609.M7135@Baader.SuSE.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8158954386032566653==" --===============8158954386032566653== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Josh Rodman wrote: >=20 > Hello Richard, >=20 > * Richard Williamson (richwill(a)innotts.co.uk) [990422 12:15]: > > Hi all, > > Let me explain my situation: > > > > I am a teacher in an Inner City school in Nottingham, England. We can get > > just enough money (10K GBP)from a company for 30 PCs - and it _must_ be > > spent on 30 PCs. With this money we can't afford software, and I am > > contemplating running SuSE with KDE on these machines. This will be runn= ing > > from an NT4 server (sorry!). > > > > I am a newbie of a few months with Linux and don't really know the > > intricacies of getting Linux to happily talk with NTFS partitions etc. > > Could anyone recommend a good book explaining: > > NTFS issues > > Tying in with NT security > > Desktop security > > Printer networking > > etc. > > > > I realise that It's a bit odd having Linux running off an NT server, but > > what the hell! It's this or nothing. Anyway, I fancy a challenge :) >=20 > While it is more focused on setting up Samba systems to integrate as > servers in Windows environments, "Samba: Integrating UNIX and Windows" > touches on all the relevant topics. It also gets rave reviews from > knowledgable people everywhere. >=20 > Evaluate for yourself whether it sounds like something you'd find useful: > http://www.ssc.com/ssc/samba/> >=20 > Additionally, as you may be new to unix, and may end up being the > 'sysadmin' for these machines, you probably could use a crash course on > linux as well as general SysAdmin text. >=20 > The crash course book I used was called Running Linux, by Matt Welsh. > It's a bit dated by now, but still useful, and I haven't heard of a real > successor. > Info: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/runux2/> >=20 > Purchase: > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obi= dos/ASIN/1565921275/ref=3Dsim_books/002-0340287-6456460> >=20 > As for keeping those 30 systems tamed, a crash course on managing > computers might not be too bad. I learned from Aeleen Frisch's "Essential > System Adminstration", which I liked a good deal. Other people I have > talked to preferred 'The Red Book', which I believe is the one I have > listed below. I've not read it myself and can't say. >=20 > Essential System Administration > info: > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/esa2/> > purchase: > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obi= dos/ASIN/1565921275/ref=3Dsim_books/002-0340287-6456460> Here is another book you might want to check out from O' Reilly. "The Complete Windows NT & UNIX System Administration Pack"=20 h= ttp://www.oreilly.com/catalog/hp12pack/excerpts/excerpts.html> Dale -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8158954386032566653==-- From jrodman@suse.com Sun Apr 25 03:22:55 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] telnet use of yast Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:22:55 -0700 Message-ID: <19990424202255.O7135@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2794324366939601163==" --===============2794324366939601163== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * alexm (alexm(a)quake.tx.symbio.net) [990422 21:33]: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jim Frentress wrote: > > yast is a very good tool for quickie configuration but i have trouble > > with display over telnet. is there a way to run yast over telnet and > > get a better display? >=20 > You need to export TERM. > I noticed linux usually sets it to "linux" which is usually "unknown" when > telnetting from another machine type. > e.g. for bash (ksh): > # export TERM=3Dxterm > or vt100 (can't use color and function keys though), > or dtterm for CDE > > -alexm While Alex is, of course, correct, the system you telnet from should have already set the TERM variable up and transmitted this information across the link. If it's not there on the host system, waggle your finger at the admin (even if the admin is you). The command most commonly used to set this up is 'tset' and should probably be in your .bashrc/.cshrc in some form. Another possibility is you may be referring to a telnet client running on another type of operating system, such as Windows or a Mac. Be especially wary of the Windows default 'telnet' program which claims to support vt100, but doesn't come close to a functional implementition. You can get lots of better telnet clients from http://www.tucows.com>. I used to use CRT on windows when I had to use windows at all. Best of Luck, -josh -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2794324366939601163==-- From skoper@mediaone.net Sun Apr 25 04:11:35 1999 From: skoper@mediaone.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Route -n shows everything twice! Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:11:35 -0400 Message-ID: <000301be8ed1$b7c36ea0$020aa8c0@CYRIX1.alembic.ne.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9212323092826447732==" --===============9212323092826447732== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I was wondering why when I type route -n (well, even just plain "route"), I see duplicate entries for my eth0 and eth1 cards. I have a cable modem, and am using the linux machine as a firewall. Route -n gives me this: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.10.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.10.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 24.128.24.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 24.128.24.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 24.128.24.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth1 It used to just show the entries for the internal NIC (eth0) and the external one (eth1) once. The addresses are only listed once in route.conf. Does anyone know what causes it, whether it needs to be fixed, and if it does, how do I do it? Thanks. Stan Koper -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9212323092826447732==-- From jpenn@planetdirect.com Sun Apr 25 04:50:56 1999 From: jpenn@planetdirect.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] On board graphics Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:50:56 -0700 Message-ID: <19990425045056.19883.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] On board graphics> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2011065283116758899==" --===============2011065283116758899== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 24 April 1999, "Paul M. Foster" wrote: >=20 > On 24 Apr 1999, Andy Thomson wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > At work I am using a WinChip C6 PC with onboard sound and graphics. > > The sound is is fine OSS detects it and it works. The Graphics are > > different I am using the the generic drivers SVGA under card selection > > in SaX. Yet when I move or minimise windows white shading is left > > where the top of thw window use to be. The graphics chip is identified >=20 > I believe this is an artifact of the way your KDE is set up. Go into the > KDE control center, look for Windows then Properties. Change Window > Movement to transparent. >=20 > > by Windows 95 as SiS 5597/8, and thoes PCs seem fine. The other thing > > is the boot screen of the PC says it has 2M of GFX ram yet Sax insists > > it has 1M. What should my settings be? > >=20 > Well they should be how much video RAM you actually have. Remember, you're > the boss, not SaX ;-) >=20 > Paul Foster Point of curiosity, which version of XFree86 are you using? Remember, the XS= iS servers packaged with SuSE 5.3 (XF86 3.3.2) were only very good alpha servers= , and weren't truly refined to full useability until XF86 3.3.3. On a side note, I= had a SiS6239 (maybe it was 6329) that ran okay with that server. Good luck! -=3D|JP|=3D- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2011065283116758899==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 25 05:21:56 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] tar problems Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:21:56 -0700 Message-ID: <19990424222156.A3646@basin.com> In-Reply-To: <372280BB.134CDC4C@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7574369260078929890==" --===============7574369260078929890== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Jerry Lynn Kreps on Sat, Apr 24, 1999 at 09:40:59PM -0500: >=20 > > Kim Wing Fung wrote: > >=20 > > Hello > >=20 > > Sorry for not elaborating more on the problem.. Anyway.. What > > happens is that i do the following: > >=20 > > tar zxf /path/to/and/including/filename > >=20 > > for items such as the linux kernel this works and i get the required > > items (the linux kernel), but for some files such as the darwin > > project (mac kernel) (www.publicsource.apple.com) tar file i get files > > which when i use command to look at the files properties tells > > me i have only read access and there is no way, no matter what the > > priverliges, i can change them to write so that i can delete them. > > These files have the obscured names such as > > "%^$=C2=A3&*=C2=A3^=C2=A3@@=C2=A3"!*^&(?@<><%$&>" and it is these i refe= r to as ghost > > files.. They can't be deleted and they can't be accessed or modified > > in any way. Please help... > >=20 > > Kim Wing Fung >=20 > It looks like you were trying to install mac software on a linux box... > Let's see if we can sneak the names to the rm command... > Log in as root. Stay in the console mode. Run the mc command (Midnight > commander pgm). In the left panel (or the right, it doesn't matter) > navigate to the directory in which the ghost files exist. With the > mouse, right-click on the ghost files to highlight them. Now press the > F8 key to delete them. Hope it works! > JLK I think that the MC approach stands a chance. I had some unusual files awhile ago that I could not seem to remove using conventional methods. I used midnite commander and was able to do it. I have also been able to rename files using MC to something kinder and gentler and then delete them using regular old tools. Just as a sidenote, gnome's gmc also will do most of this or at least does it for me with later versions compiled. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7574369260078929890==-- From Leonard_Ong@iname.com Sun Apr 25 06:01:30 1999 From: Leonard_Ong@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Xosview Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:01:30 +0700 Message-ID: <4.1.19990425125815.02fa05e0@pop.rad.net.id> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3546958920714553433==" --===============3546958920714553433== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Email dalam bahasa Indonesia di bagian bawah :) Hello, I just upgraded my xosview into 2.2 ( latest, if i'm not mistaken ), and it's very nice. However, top reported that xosview use my CPU 100 % and so does xosview itself. What's wrong ? I am using kernel 2.2.6 ------------ Hello, Saya baru saja mengupgrade xosview saya ke versi terakhir, setelah menjalankannya xosview melaporkan cpu 100 0an top melaporkan cpu digunakan 100 0leh xosview. Mohon pendapat, apa yang salah ? Thanks Regards, Leonard Ong Leonard Advanced Research,Inc Leonard Ong | Confusious said : " The Journey of thousands miles=20 (=C3=8D=C3=B5=C2=B6=C2=B0=C2=BA=C3=80) | begins with a small s= ingle step " | Leonard_Ong(a)iname.com - Share Knowledge together! FreeBSD/Linux| UIN : 1041402 =3D=3D http://www.poboxes.co= m/Leonard_Ong> Powered | 68FB C87E 8A0D EC9F EC82 A6FC C547 B4E4 CA46 94DB ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.rad.net.id/internet> mailto:HelpDesk(a)rad.net.id http://jakarta.linux.or.id> mailto:leonard(a)jakarta.linux.or.id http://hmti.or= .id> mailto:leonard(a)hmti.o= r.id -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3546958920714553433==-- From Leonard_Ong@iname.com Sun Apr 25 06:03:03 1999 From: Leonard_Ong@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Wine - Microsoft Word 97 ? Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:03:03 +0700 Message-ID: <4.1.19990425130135.02fa4030@pop.rad.net.id> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2242993893645633457==" --===============2242993893645633457== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Email dalam bahasa Indonesia di bagian bawah :) Hello, I have configured /etc/wine.etc ( it yielded not error, i.e. wine does not complain ). But I can not run winword.exe with it. Is anyone out there can do this ? I'm using 2.2.6, 64 mb ram, and SuSE 6.0 ------------ Hello, Ada yang bisa menjalankan winword.exe ( 97 ) di linux dengan wine ? Thanks Regards, Leonard Ong Leonard Advanced Research,Inc Leonard Ong | Confusious said : " The Journey of thousands miles=20 (=C3=8D=C3=B5=C2=B6=C2=B0=C2=BA=C3=80) | begins with a small s= ingle step " | Leonard_Ong(a)iname.com - Share Knowledge together! FreeBSD/Linux| UIN : 1041402 =3D=3D http://www.poboxes.co= m/Leonard_Ong> Powered | 68FB C87E 8A0D EC9F EC82 A6FC C547 B4E4 CA46 94DB ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.rad.net.id/internet> mailto:HelpDesk(a)rad.net.id http://jakarta.linux.or.id> mailto:leonard(a)jakarta.linux.or.id http://hmti.or= .id> mailto:leonard(a)hmti.o= r.id -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2242993893645633457==-- From Leonard_Ong@iname.com Sun Apr 25 06:06:13 1999 From: Leonard_Ong@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PPP Gateway Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:06:13 +0700 Message-ID: <4.1.19990425130307.02fa3f10@pop.rad.net.id> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1029980619422070973==" --===============1029980619422070973== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Email dalam bahasa Indonesia di bagian bawah :) Hello, I have an eth0 configured, and it's gateway. Whenever my PPP0 up, it is automatically assignned with my eth0's gateway. Of course that would make my PPP0 broken i.e. can't connect / ping to internet. Is there a way to let ifconfig know that use gateway A for IP A, and use gateway B for IP B ? System : 2.2.6 / SuSe 6.0 / checked which gateway assigned to ppp0 with netstat -nr ------------ Hello, Saya mempunyai eth0 yang sudah terkonfigurasi dengan baik, setiap kali saya terhubung ke ISP dengan ppp0, ppp0 ini diberikan gateway local atau eth0 sehinggga PPP tidak berfungsi. Apakah ada cara untuk mengatasi ini ? Sementara ini saya harus kill eth0, jalankan ppp agar dia assign ke gateway ISP baru run eth0 lagi. Thanks Regards, Leonard Ong Leonard Advanced Research,Inc Leonard Ong | Confusious said : " The Journey of thousands miles=20 (=C3=8D=C3=B5=C2=B6=C2=B0=C2=BA=C3=80) | begins with a small s= ingle step " | Leonard_Ong(a)iname.com - Share Knowledge together! FreeBSD/Linux| UIN : 1041402 =3D=3D http://www.poboxes.co= m/Leonard_Ong> Powered | 68FB C87E 8A0D EC9F EC82 A6FC C547 B4E4 CA46 94DB ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.rad.net.id/internet> mailto:HelpDesk(a)rad.net.id http://jakarta.linux.or.id> mailto:leonard(a)jakarta.linux.or.id http://hmti.or= .id> mailto:leonard(a)hmti.o= r.id -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1029980619422070973==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Sun Apr 25 06:09:56 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Apple notebooks get skinny (InfoWorld) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:09:56 -0700 Message-ID: <3722B1B4.A83852DF@pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6693027121199611100==" --===============6693027121199611100== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Drool.  Just call me Hiro Protagonist.
    
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    =20 By Jeff Walsh
    InfoWorld Electric

    Posted at 3:11 PM PT, Apr 23, 1999
    Apple Computer showed dealers its next-generation PowerBook computer line beh= ind closed doors at the National Association of Broadcasters Conference in La= s Vegas this week, according to sources close to the company. The forthcoming unit, code-named Lombard, is reportedly at least as thin as S= ony's 0.9-inch Vaio portable, and will feature processor speeds starting at 4= 00 MHz with the next-generation PowerPC G4 processor. The three-and-one-half pound portable system also features a detachable LCD t= hat can be replaced with goggles for so-called heads-up display.=20 No launch date was given for the Lombard family, although this unit is in App= le's professional line, not the forthcoming consumer portable, code-named P1. Apple officials declined to comment on unannounced products. Apple Computer Inc., in Cupertino, Calif., is at www.apple.com. Jeff Walsh is an InfoWorld = senior writer.

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    --===============6693027121199611100==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Sun Apr 25 06:16:24 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Sorry about that Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:16:24 -0700 Message-ID: <3722B338.6B76906E@pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4851196851760406014==" --===============4851196851760406014== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry all, that last message was meant for my friend, but I hit the wrong name on in the address book. --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * =20 Was there no communication in this car. Had we deteriorated to =20 the level of dumb beasts? * * -Hunter S. Thompson * =20 * * * * * -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at
    <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4851196851760406014==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Sun Apr 25 06:33:51 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNN - NT looking great -- on paper - April 21, 1999 Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:33:51 -1000 Message-ID: <3722B74F.A7D6A58D@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <37227AD5.3590D2B1@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7688882476457931136==" --===============7688882476457931136== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fred A. Miller wrote: >=20 > http://= www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9904/21/ntpaper.ent.idg/> > -- I remember this group - they're the ones that just last year made the prediction that NT would take over and destroy Unix within two years. Now they say Unix is here to stay? What's up with them? --=20 George Toft http://gtoft.dynip.com/LinuxAdvocate= /> __ __ _ __ __ __ ___ ___ | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / -o) | | | | | \_| | | | | | \ \/ / (o- /\\ | |__ | | | | | |_| | / /\ \ //\ _\_v |_____||__| |__|\___| \_______| /__/ \__\ v_/_ Don't fear the penguins... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7688882476457931136==-- From kf@wa.net Sun Apr 25 07:57:38 1999 From: kf@wa.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] NT fster than Linux? Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:57:38 -0700 Message-ID: <3722CAF2.D4D89A8A@wa.net> In-Reply-To: <37227AD5.3590D2B1@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8056337437063111217==" --===============8056337437063111217== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anybody else see this article, http://www.microsof= t.com/Windows/dailynews/042199.htm> This seems to refute the bencmarking done by ZDNEt=20 a few month ago. Who's right? or does it just show that, benchmarks like statistics, can be twisted to your advantage. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8056337437063111217==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Apr 25 07:59:35 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] deleting "crap": was tar problems Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:59:35 +0200 Message-ID: <3722CB67.957DFD1@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <19990424222156.A3646@basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8923921837273696085==" --===============8923921837273696085== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Perry wrote: >=20 > I think that the MC approach stands a chance. I had some unusual files > awhile ago that I could not seem to remove using conventional methods. I > used midnite commander and was able to do it. I have also been able to > rename files using MC to something kinder and gentler and then delete them > using regular old tools. Just as a sidenote, gnome's gmc also will do most > of this or at least does it for me with later versions compiled. >=20 > -- I too think that mc is the best idea, although I wouldn=C5=BDt have had the idea in the first place. I think these "crap" names contain unix special characters, that need to be masked with \ (backslash). This is very annoying, particulary if (like at work) someone created filenames with german "Umlauts" on a samba box, that doesn=C5=BDt run mc on the unix side... Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8923921837273696085==-- From tomas@primenet.com Sun Apr 25 08:12:13 1999 From: tomas@primenet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Java vs Tcl/Kl vs Perl Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:12:13 -0700 Message-ID: <3722CE5D.8E9197E2@primenet.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990424092325.00fb45d0@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3218588285361961923==" --===============3218588285361961923== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Samy Elashmawy wrote: >=20 > Hmmm , I understood that do do any thing usefull in C you need to write a > ton of code , or have a whole bunch of libs/third party tools. I understand > that due to the lib problem that c is not so cross platform freindly. >=20 > Seems to me that C is more of an industrial srtenth type language. I > question weather that ttype of hose power is realy need by me , and am > looking int something that bay bee al little "weaker" but is faster to > devolpe. > Too bad borland wont make a linux version of delphi. I would settle for a > linux version of paradox or similar type tool >=20 Very true, c/c++ are definitely industrial strength, which I assume you are really looking for. When trying to get something done quick and simple I tend to use tcl/tk which seems to serve allot of purposes. I agree that front ends to programming tools are a great gift, and if that's what your looking for as well, then I have seen a pretty good one for tcl/tk called visual tcl which is part of the 6.x version of SuSE (at least on the ftp site it is). --=20 S.Toms - tomas(a)primenet.com - http://www.primenet.com/~tom= as> S.u.S.E. Linux v6.0+ - Kernel 2.2.6 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3218588285361961923==-- From tomas@primenet.com Sun Apr 25 08:28:38 1999 From: tomas@primenet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] CD-Rom Question Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:28:38 -0700 Message-ID: <3722D236.C00CC390@primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4183190767905987895==" --===============4183190767905987895== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was gathering stuff for a garage sale and came across and old 8x cd-rom which I decided to install in my system to accompany the rest of the crap in it. Anyway, I got it installed, and it shows up during boot as 'hdd' hdd: aCeR Cd-787E/SaS, ATAPI CDROM drive hdd: ATAPI 6X CD-ROM drive, 240kB Cache Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.54 anyway, when I attempt to mount it I receive the following error and was wondering what I may have missed. I also tried mounting it with 'hdd0' and 'hdd1' which wouldn't even acknowledge the drive whereas 'hdd' at least seemed to attempt the mount pipedream:/home/skull # mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /cdrom/eide mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd, or too many mounted file systems the cd is not an audio disk, it mounts fine on my other cd drive as you can see here. pipedream:/home/skull # mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom/scsi mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only just not on the other. The other thing is the 6X should read 8X in my opinion but isn't a big deal to me at the moment, but if anyone has a clue on that as well I would like to hear it. --=20 S.Toms - tomas(a)primenet.com - http://www.primenet.com/~tom= as> S.u.S.E. Linux v6.0+ - Kernel 2.2.6 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4183190767905987895==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Apr 25 09:04:18 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Route -n shows everything twice! Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:04:18 +0200 Message-ID: <3722DA92.54C5A01B@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <000301be8ed1$b7c36ea0$020aa8c0@CYRIX1.alembic.ne.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1069637409855222681==" --===============1069637409855222681== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stan Koper wrote: >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > I was wondering why when I type route -n (well, even just plain > "route"), I see duplicate entries for my eth0 and eth1 cards. I have a > cable modem, and am using the linux machine as a firewall. Route -n gives > me this: >=20 > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref > Use Iface > 192.168.10.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 > 0 eth0 > 192.168.10.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 > 0 eth0 > 24.128.24.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0 U 0 0 > 0 eth1 > 24.128.24.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0 U 0 0 > 0 eth1 > 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 > 0 0 lo > 0.0.0.0 24.128.24.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 > 0 0 eth1 >=20 > It used to just show the entries for the internal NIC (eth0) and the > external one (eth1) once. The addresses are only listed once in route.conf. >=20 > Does anyone know what causes it, whether it needs to be fixed, and if it > does, how do I do it? Thanks. >=20 > Stan Koper >=20 Hi Stan, Let=C5=BDs guess: you shortly upgraded to 2.2.x kernel from 2.0.x. The routing stuff is now done differently. Look into your /etc/route.conf. You=C5=BDll find there entries for eth0 and eth1. Comment them, restart the network and have another look.... cheers=20 Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1069637409855222681==-- From jrodman@suse.com Sun Apr 25 09:07:54 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Route -n shows everything twice! Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:07:54 -0700 Message-ID: <19990425020754.U7135@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: <000301be8ed1$b7c36ea0$020aa8c0@CYRIX1.alembic.ne.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3998470784286921382==" --===============3998470784286921382== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stan, * Stan Koper (skoper(a)mediaone.net) [990424 21:47]: >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > I was wondering why when I type route -n (well, even just plain > "route"), I see duplicate entries for my eth0 and eth1 cards. I have a > cable modem, and am using the linux machine as a firewall. Route -n gives > me this: Did it work before? Did you change anything? A guess: Sounds like you upgraded your kernel to 2.2.x. The behavior of interface configuration changed quite late in 2.2 development, and is different from the 2.0 behavior. In 2.0, adding an interface did not create a route to the network attached to that interface. In 2.2 it does. The network scripts do not take this into account and create the 'necessary' route even when it is not necessary. Blame it on the rain or some other bad pop song. You might look into the full RPM update set on the ftp site under suse_update/SuSE-6.0/kernel. Or you could live with the doubled routes. I don't think they have any serious ramifications. =20 Happy hacking. -josh -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3998470784286921382==-- From tomas@primenet.com Sun Apr 25 09:09:14 1999 From: tomas@primenet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Pine Problem Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:09:14 -0700 Message-ID: <3722DBBA.717315DB@primenet.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2322731453998061456==" --===============2322731453998061456== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gerry Doris wrote: >=20 > I have a different login name on my system than on my pop server. On my > system my login is "gerry" but on my pop server it's "gdoris". >=20 > No matter what I do I can't get pine to put "Gerry Doris "=20 > in the From part of the message. The best that I can come up with is "Gerr= y=20 > Doris ". >=20 > I also can't login into the news server and I suspect it's because my name = > is not correct. >=20 > Is there a way to change this in pinerc??? >=20 As I recall, a standard install of pine will not allow this to be changed (going by memory). In order to beable to change that you need to recompile pine with certain options which will give the users on the system the ability to change that feature. The only other way to do it is to put a reply to line in the .pinerc file which would look somthing along these lines customized-hdrs =3D Reply-To: gdoris(a)home.com which at least when someone replies it will get that address. A newer version of pine, 4.0x or so may have changed but I havn't looked. --=20 S.Toms - tomas(a)primenet.com - http://www.primenet.com/~tom= as> S.u.S.E. Linux v6.0+ - Kernel 2.2.6 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2322731453998061456==-- From jrodman@suse.com Sun Apr 25 09:48:27 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] NT fster than Linux? Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:48:27 -0700 Message-ID: <19990425024827.W7135@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: <3722CAF2.D4D89A8A@wa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9149356825267670009==" --===============9149356825267670009== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Kristian Farren (kf(a)wa.net) [990425 01:40]: > Anybody else see this article, > http://www.micr= osoft.com/Windows/dailynews/042199.htm> > This seems to refute the bencmarking done by ZDNEt=20 > a few month ago. Who's right? or does it just show that, > benchmarks like statistics, can be twisted to your advantage. Here's a reasonable summary of events, if slanted in Raymond style. http://linuxtoday.com/stories/5296.html> Beyond that they activated several features of Samba and Apache which pretty much deliberately slowed down the system, claimed it was a stock setup and had custom-compiled versions of both servers, and used a non-current kernel with known performance interoperability problems with Windows systems, they also have fallen apart on the 'independent testing' bit. =20 The message which is understood (although not in a provably legal way) to have been posted by the mindcraft folks requesting help from a newsgroup was posted to usenet via dejanews from a host within microsoft's domain. The machine used was equipped with an unreleased internal version of IE5. =20 That people involved in this testing had demontstated access to currently unreleased software microsoft software as well as microsoft's internal network throws the whole 'independent testing' out the window. In other words, a deliberately sabotaged linux box compared against an NT machine tuned by those both in the pay of and with the engineering assistance of (far beyond what any normal customer could ever hope to achieve) microsoft can be measured to perform poorly. I hope the shock does not cause you undue emotional distress. -josh -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9149356825267670009==-- From bushman@btinternet.com Sun Apr 25 10:59:44 1999 From: bushman@btinternet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Printer Query Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:59:44 +0100 Message-ID: <3722F59F.F7AA65E1@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <37225835.AA279F69@preferred.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7696747288302143198==" --===============7696747288302143198== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dale, Many thanks for that. I checked the printer manual and, sure enough, there is mention of HP IIP emulation for PCL-Mode printing under DOS........IIP only manages 300 dpi, though, pity.......just a matter of tweaking things now, I hope :-) Bushman. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7696747288302143198==-- From neiled@clara.net Sun Apr 25 11:58:13 1999 From: neiled@clara.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PPP connection Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:58:13 +0100 Message-ID: <199904251155.MAA09306@remus.clara.net> In-Reply-To: <38F44BD5.6C71308C@telekurs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7525257788921260236==" --===============7525257788921260236== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI there, I used kppp to connect to the internet, I had to set it up=20 under networks in yast and then it seemed to work fine. make suer=20 oyuve got the modem set up in there. As you can see its not a very=20 techincal reply but I thought you might benefit from it. Thanks Date sent: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:11:33 +0800 From: Emmanuel To: suse Subject: [SuSE Linux] PPP connection >=20 > I have been trying to connect to the internet but always in vain. I used > the kppp to configure my dialup , the modem did get connected but I > could not ping the server. I have added the domain name server in the > resolv.conf but still won't work. I would appreciate that somebody could > give some light to me. >=20 > Emmanuel >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 >=20 - - - - Neil Edwards Krystal Klear Mods http://www.valveworld.com/krystal/> Get Paid to surf the net: http://www.alladvantage.com= /go.asp?refid=3DBIU877> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7525257788921260236==-- From paulsen@imailbox.com Sun Apr 25 12:42:51 1999 From: paulsen@imailbox.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: No Subject Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:42:51 -0500 Message-ID: <99042507435000.00638@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0749426392836688103==" --===============0749426392836688103== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone tell me why I get the following error message everytime I log out = of KDE? (This shows up in /var/log/messages.) Apr 19 22:24:17 home kdm[5948]: can't execute "XBINDIR/xrdb" (err 2) -- ____________________________________________________________________ Robert Paulsen http://paulsen.home.texas.ne= t> paulsen(a)imailbox.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0749426392836688103==-- From paulsen@imailbox.com Sun Apr 25 13:04:46 1999 From: paulsen@imailbox.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] can't execute "XBINDIR/xrdb" Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 08:04:46 -0500 Message-ID: <99042508065500.00710@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5887155462984476605==" --===============5887155462984476605== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone tell me why I get the following error message everytime I log out = of KDE? (This shows up in /var/log/messages.) Apr 19 22:24:17 home kdm[5948]: can't execute "XBINDIR/xrdb" (e= rr 2) (Sorry for the double post, but I wanted to get this posted with a proper subject line.) ____________________________________________________________________ Robert Paulsen http://paulsen.home.texas.ne= t> paulsen(a)imailbox.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5887155462984476605==-- From suse_list@hotmail.com Sun Apr 25 13:24:56 1999 From: suse_list@hotmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: No Subject Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 06:24:56 -0700 Message-ID: <19990425132457.35576.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1047783647793758592==" --===============1047783647793758592== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I am running SuSE5.2 (will buy 6.1 as soon as it comes out. It looks awesome). There are 2 windows machines and my linux machine running on a network. I want to be able to open up an x-display on my windows machines. Does anyone know of any good, preferably free, windows95 programs to allow me to do this? Also, does it matter that I'm running KDM or do these programs require XDM to be running.=20 Any help would be greatly appreciated.=20 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1047783647793758592==-- From kimwing@kimwing.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 25 13:35:33 1999 From: kimwing@kimwing.freeserve.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kernel upgrade Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:35:33 +0100 Message-ID: <003901be8f20$7fb5d120$f621883e@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1006029128781181601==" --===============1006029128781181601== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    Hello
    Me again... I'm just full of problems. This time it concerns the latest kernel. I currently run SuSE 5.3. My problem is that when i compile and install the kernel upon reboot i get messages asking me to update my software to use ttyS* devices:
    tty_io.c (process 49) setserial used obsolete dev/cua device please update software to use ttyS devices
    or something along these lines.. How do i do this?? I've tried reconfiguring the boot scripts and now it complains about not finding char major 4.. Can someone please help me.
    Kim Wing Fung
    --===============1006029128781181601==-- From gdoris@home.com Sun Apr 25 13:44:32 1999 From: gdoris@home.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Pine Problem Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:44:32 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1227700217416325660==" --===============1227700217416325660== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a different login name on my system than on my pop server. On my syst= em my login is "gerry" but on my pop server it's "gdoris". No matter what I do I can't get pine to put "Gerry Doris "= in the From part of the message. The best that I can come up with is "Gerry Dor= is ". I also can't login into the news server and I suspect it's because my name is not correct. Is there a way to change this in pinerc??? Gerry ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Gerry Doris Date: 25-Apr-99 Time: 09:40:11 "The lyf so short, the craft so long to learne" Chaucer ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at
    <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1227700217416325660==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Sun Apr 25 14:12:20 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNN - NT looking great -- on paper - April 21, 1999 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:12:20 -0500 Message-ID: <372322C4.8D6308F8@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <3722B74F.A7D6A58D@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8677002028372742022==" --===============8677002028372742022== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's called Bandwagons..which ever seems to be traveling the fastest..Linux has more at this time .. next year these putz's could be YAHOOing over MacOS-X or somthing else.. =20 > Fred A. Miller wrote: > > > > http:= //www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9904/21/ntpaper.ent.idg/> > > -- >=20 > I remember this group - they're the ones that just last > year made the prediction that NT would take over and destroy > Unix within two years. Now they say Unix is here to stay? > What's up with them? >=20 --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8677002028372742022==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 25 14:21:10 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] NT fster than Linux? Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:21:10 -0700 Message-ID: <19990425072110.A4662@basin.com> In-Reply-To: <3722CAF2.D4D89A8A@wa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8850728753334322607==" --===============8850728753334322607== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Kristian Farren on Sun, Apr 25, 1999 at 12:57:38AM -0700: >=20 > Anybody else see this article, > http://www.micr= osoft.com/Windows/dailynews/042199.htm> > This seems to refute the bencmarking done by ZDNEt=20 > a few month ago. Who's right? or does it just show that, > benchmarks like statistics, can be twisted to your advantage. > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Mindcraft's study was rather pathetic and refuted by zdnet and a few others immediately. ZDnet has stated that NT could not keep up with any of the LInux distributions initially. Mindcraft then took a NT box, tuned all 4 nic cards to a level that most folks would whimper at, made key changes to the registry, changed memory addresses, and then flatly stated that Redhat Linux was not tuned whatsoever. Its a logical fallacy. The test was conducted based on a logial fallacy. How can one compare a system altered from the NIC up to a system that was not altered and expect to have scientific and reproducible results. Science does not work that way. And neither does comparison benchmarking. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8850728753334322607==-- From dwj@linuxtoday.com Sun Apr 25 14:32:06 1999 From: dwj@linuxtoday.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Pine Problem Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:32:06 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8652361720482118831==" --===============8652361720482118831== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Gerry Doris wrote: > I have a different login name on my system than on my pop server. > On my system my login is "gerry" but on my pop server it's "gdoris". >=20 > No matter what I do I can't get pine to put "Gerry Doris > " in the From part of the message. The best that I > can come up with is "Gerry Doris ". >=20 > I also can't login into the news server and I suspect it's because > my name is not correct. >=20 > Is there a way to change this in pinerc??? In the older versions, of Pine (<=3D1998), there is a compile option that enables this capability. In the newer versions, it is a configuration option. Even then, you may need to access the source code to get documentation on how to configure it. I personally use this capability and have enabled it on both the older and the newer Pines. Dwight -- http:/= /linuxtoday.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8652361720482118831==-- From phil@stokes.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 25 15:13:02 1999 From: phil@stokes.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Pine Problem Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:13:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1559065531456148123==" --===============1559065531456148123== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Gerry Doris wrote: >=20 > I have a different login name on my system than on my pop server. On my sy= stem > my login is "gerry" but on my pop server it's "gdoris". >=20 > No matter what I do I can't get pine to put "Gerry Doris " in > the From part of the message. The best that I can come up with is "Gerry D= oris > ". >=20 > I also can't login into the news server and I suspect it's because my name = is > not correct. >=20 > Is there a way to change this in pinerc??? In pine v4.10 you can set it under your default role. In earlier versions, you can compile Pine to allow users to change the --===============1559065531456148123==-- From Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net Sun Apr 25 16:44:15 1999 From: Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Power_saver Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:44:15 -0700 Message-ID: <3723465F.DE3B7F9E@gte.net> In-Reply-To: <99042418181500.00279@kamikazen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0461811608443444421==" --===============0461811608443444421== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is the snippet of code from my .xinitrc file. I enable dpms and then have set the various power saving options this way: #!/bin/sh # # Enable DPMS support for our monitor # xset +dpms xset dpms 600 1800 3600 The first value is standby, the second suspend, and the third is off. All values are in seconds. I haven't looked into modifying my XF86Config file but from the options you list it gives pretty much the same control as what xset allows. Putting these control into XF86Config is probably a better way to since it will enable the power saving features for all users. Since I have my settings in my ~/.xinitrc file these settings are only for my user. Maurizio Firmani wrote: >=20 > Ciao, > my monitor (a Philips 105MB) supports the energy saving mode. I got a look = at > XF86Config (man 5). It seems that I need to insert the line: > Options "power_saver" on the section Device along with one more option amon= g: >=20 > BlankTime > StandbyTime > SuspendTime > OffTime >=20 > I am always a bit scared to play with monitor setting since I've broken one= :-( >=20 > Anyone is currently using this option? >=20 > TIA >=20 > Maurizio > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Tony --=20 Anthony.Schlemmer(a)gte.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0461811608443444421==-- From Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net Sun Apr 25 16:49:43 1999 From: Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: X for Windows Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:49:43 -0700 Message-ID: <372347A7.84312E50@gte.net> In-Reply-To: <19990425132457.35576.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0810782660218639860==" --===============0810782660218639860== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://tnt.microimages.com/= www/html/freestuf/mix/> Brad Jones wrote: >=20 > Hi all, > I am running SuSE5.2 (will buy 6.1 as soon as it comes out. It looks > awesome). There are 2 windows machines and my linux machine running on > a network. I want to be able to open up an x-display on my windows > machines. Does anyone know of any good, preferably free, windows95 > programs to allow me to do this? Also, does it matter that I'm running > KDM or do these programs require XDM to be running. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. >=20 > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --=20 Anthony.Schlemmer(a)gte.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0810782660218639860==-- From deem@wdm.com Sun Apr 25 17:18:52 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Power_saver Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:18:52 -0800 Message-ID: <199904251718.JAA09385@wdm.com> In-Reply-To: <3723465F.DE3B7F9E@gte.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2956735256783120926==" --===============2956735256783120926== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Using Xi Graphics Accelerated-X, the Power Saver Mode is a nice option as wel= l. EnergyStar/DPMS is an option to toggle. Works excellent. Best Regards -Dee Anthony Schlemmer wrote: >=20 > This is the snippet of code from my .xinitrc file. I enable dpms and > then have set the various power saving options this way: >=20 > #!/bin/sh > # > # Enable DPMS support for our monitor > # > xset +dpms > xset dpms 600 1800 3600 >=20 > The first value is standby, the second suspend, and the third is off. > All values are in seconds. I haven't looked into modifying my XF86Config > file but from the options you list it gives pretty much the same control > as what xset allows. Putting these control into XF86Config is probably a > better way to since it will enable the power saving features for all > users. Since I have my settings in my ~/.xinitrc file these settings are > only for my user. > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> W.D.McKinney (Dee) deem(a)wdm.com Vision & Passion are keys to success. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2956735256783120926==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Sun Apr 25 17:23:03 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Running X on Win95 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:23:03 -1000 Message-ID: <37234F77.9CAB495C@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <19990425132457.35576.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8249007923302387560==" --===============8249007923302387560== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brad Jones wrote: >=20 > Hi all, > I am running SuSE5.2 (will buy 6.1 as soon as it comes out. It looks > awesome). There are 2 windows machines and my linux machine running on > a network. I want to be able to open up an x-display on my windows > machines. Does anyone know of any good, preferably free, windows95 > programs to allow me to do this? Also, does it matter that I'm running > KDM or do these programs require XDM to be running. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. >=20 [Brad - this message is slightly different from the previous one] On the SuSE CD, under /dosutils you will find MI/X. It works OK. I found running StarOffice was unacceptable in this fashion, but xterms and Netscape work fine. Look here: http://tucows.com/xwinserver95.html> Look here for how-to do this: http://www.linuxgazette.com= /issue32/jenkins2.html> It will take you longer to read the article than to actually do it. One thing the article fails to mention is you have to use the command xhost to get your display to go to the client. You could also try vnc. I've used vnc to display my Windows95 display in an X window - works great as long as you have a fast network and fast Windows machine. --=20 George Toft http://gtoft.dynip.com/LinuxAdvocate= /> __ __ _ __ __ __ ___ ___ | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / -o) | | | | | \_| | | | | | \ \/ / (o- /\\ | |__ | | | | | |_| | / /\ \ //\ _\_v |_____||__| |__|\___| \_______| /__/ \__\ v_/_ Don't fear the penguins... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8249007923302387560==-- From royb@bee.net Sun Apr 25 17:23:05 1999 From: royb@bee.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] kde susehelp in German after running SuSEconfig Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:23:05 -0400 Message-ID: <37234F79.105EB00F@bee.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8290427658900211709==" --===============8290427658900211709== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have SuSE 6.0. I noticed that whenever SuSEconfig is run, the SuSE help icon switches from being susehelp to hilfe. Hence, the help system will come up in German, even though everything else is in English. I traced it this down to SuSEconfig.wm, which seems to hardcode the hilfe command, even when the selected language is English. I'm not savvy enough in writing macro or shell scripts to fix this, but I think it should be easy. - Roy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8290427658900211709==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Sun Apr 25 17:39:16 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] NT fster than Linux? Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:39:16 -1000 Message-ID: <37235344.61B9D7BA@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <3722CAF2.D4D89A8A@wa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5898835349025469844==" --===============5898835349025469844== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kristian Farren wrote: >=20 > Anybody else see this article, > http://www.micr= osoft.com/Windows/dailynews/042199.htm> > This seems to refute the bencmarking done by ZDNEt > a few month ago. Who's right? or does it just show that, > benchmarks like statistics, can be twisted to your advantage. You're kidding, right? You would quote a Microsoft page and expect it to hold some semblance of truth? This from the company that records your NIC MAC into every Word97 and Excel97 document and transmits every MS serial number on your machine as well as your name and=20 company info to the big Redmond database? Remember, last year in May (or June) when Microsoft was caught planting letters to the editors in major US newspapers, and magazines talking about how great their products were? (These letters were "unsolicited letters of support, written by average people" who just happened to be either MS employees or MS PR Co employees.) Please!!! Seriously, we (my networking students) ran a test using the same hardware (Pentium 200Mhz) on a thin ethernet LAN. They set up a Win95 fileserver and a Linux fileserver running samba (1.9.18p10). Two different win95 clients=20 retrieved a 25 MB file (Star Wars trailer) from each server=20 (to eliminate caching). The Windows solution took 45=20 seconds. The Linux server took 30 seconds. So by this=20 (crude) test, Linux is 33 0.000000aster than Windows. Of=20 course, this was Win95, and not NT, but it was fun. If Microsoft said the sky was blue, I wouldn't believe it until I saw it. And I know for a fact the sun does not shine in Redmond, Washington - it rains all the time. Been there - hated it. Not that I'm biased against them, or anything :-) I guess I'm like any other recovering addict - I despise that to which I fell prey to. --=20 George Toft http://gtoft.dynip.com/LinuxAdvocate= /> __ __ _ __ __ __ ___ ___ | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / -o) | | | | | \_| | | | | | \ \/ / (o- /\\ | |__ | | | | | |_| | / /\ \ //\ _\_v |_____||__| |__|\___| \_______| /__/ \__\ v_/_ Don't fear the penguins... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5898835349025469844==-- From deem@wdm.com Sun Apr 25 17:42:01 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel upgrade Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:42:01 -0800 Message-ID: <199904251742.JAA09458@wdm.com> In-Reply-To: <003901be8f20$7fb5d120$f621883e@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7228991154630736144==" --===============7228991154630736144== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Taken from /usr/src/linux-2.2.6/Documentation/Changes General Information =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Also, please remember that cua* devices are now obsolete. Switch to the corresponding ttyS* device instead (e.g., cua0 -> ttyS0, cua1 -> ttyS1, etc.). Readup my fellow user, only the experienced walk with a limp. -Dee "Kim Wing Fung" wrote: > : quoted-printable >=20 > Hello >=20 > Me again... I'm just full of problems. This time it concerns=20 > the latest kernel. I currently run SuSE 5.3. My problem is that when=20 > i compile and install the kernel upon reboot i get messages asking me=20 > to update my software to use ttyS* devices: >=20 > tty_io.c (process 49) setserial used obsolete dev/cua device please=20 > update software to use ttyS devices >=20 > or something along these lines.. How do i do this?? I've tried reconfigur= ing the boot scripts and now it complains about not finding char major 4.. C= an someone please help me.: quoted-printable W.D.McKinney (Dee) deem(a)wdm.com Vision & Passion are keys to success. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7228991154630736144==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Sun Apr 25 17:51:40 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CD-Rom Question Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:51:40 -1000 Message-ID: <3723562C.F7628045@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <3722D236.C00CC390@primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7043109472040863071==" --===============7043109472040863071== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable S.Toms wrote: >=20 > I was gathering stuff for a garage sale and came across and old 8x > cd-rom which I decided to install in my system to accompany the rest of > the crap in it. Anyway, I got it installed, and it shows up during boot > as 'hdd' >=20 > hdd: aCeR Cd-787E/SaS, ATAPI CDROM drive > hdd: ATAPI 6X CD-ROM drive, 240kB Cache > Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.54 >=20 > anyway, when I attempt to mount it I receive the following error and > was wondering what I may have missed. I also tried mounting it with > 'hdd0' and 'hdd1' which wouldn't even acknowledge the drive whereas > 'hdd' at least seemed to attempt the mount I didn't think you can partition an IDE CD-ROM. If you can, please let me know - this could be useful. > pipedream:/home/skull # mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /cdrom/eide > mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd, > or too many mounted file systems >=20 > the cd is not an audio disk, it mounts fine on my other cd drive as you > can see here. >=20 > pipedream:/home/skull # mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom/scsi > mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only >=20 > just not on the other. The other thing is the 6X should read 8X in my > opinion but isn't a big deal to me at the moment, but if anyone has a > clue on that as well I would like to hear it. > -- I see you got suckered on the old Acer 787 also. That particular CD-ROM won't read CD-R's. It only reads silver, factory-pressed CD's. I discovered this the hard way, and verified it with their web site. --=20 George Toft http://gtoft.dynip.com/LinuxAdvocate= /> __ __ _ __ __ __ ___ ___ | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / -o) | | | | | \_| | | | | | \ \/ / (o- /\\ | |__ | | | | | |_| | / /\ \ //\ _\_v |_____||__| |__|\___| \_______| /__/ \__\ v_/_ Don't fear the penguins... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7043109472040863071==-- From royb@bee.net Sun Apr 25 17:56:22 1999 From: royb@bee.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] problem compiling applications - libs in wrong place? Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:56:22 -0400 Message-ID: <37235746.3B28ED5B@bee.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4126050907527732576==" --===============4126050907527732576== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've tried to compile two apps recently (xfstt and kpackage) and they both bombed because they couldn't find the file crtbegin.o. This file is on the system, under /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtbegin.o. Am I missing some symbolic link that would set up the directory tree properly? Should I just modify the Makefile or configure files in question to find the right libraries? If so, how do I do this? (I'm obviously fairly new to Linux software development). Isn't there supposed to be a standardized directory structure? I'm using SuSE Linux v 6.0 upgraded to kernel 2.2.5, although I didn't upgrade the glibc above its default 2.0.7pre6. Thanks in advance -Roy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4126050907527732576==-- From deem@wdm.com Sun Apr 25 18:05:20 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] [SLL] QuotaMaster needs a hylafax or linux fax expert (fwd) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:05:20 -0800 Message-ID: <199904251805.KAA09546@wdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6732842829149041275==" --===============6732842829149041275== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This looks like a good job for a SuSE expert :) >>>>> Forwarded message from Dennis Henry Espinosa QuotaMaster Corporation, located in Kirkland Washington, needs a person who has faxing expertise using linux. Java experience a plus! Candidates will also enjoy stock in the company. 1999/2000 projected sales are $20,000,000, and the company has plans for an IPO. You may veiw a prelimiary website at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.quotamaster.comhttp://www.quotamaster.com>. Interested parties please contact Dennis Espinosa at 425-823-5833 or fax resumes to 425-820-2188 or email an attachment. Sincerely, QuotaMaster Corporation Dennis Henry Espinosa President 425-823-5833 ext 5 Fax 425-820-2188 << End forwarded message -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6732842829149041275==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 25 18:24:15 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:24:15 -0500 Message-ID: <37235DCF.4775BFC2@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <99042507435000.00638@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0915353880965478872==" --===============0915353880965478872== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert C Paulsen Jr wrote: >=20 > Can anyone tell me why I get the following error message everytime I log ou= t of > KDE? (This shows up in /var/log/messages.) >=20 > Apr 19 22:24:17 home kdm[5948]: can't execute "XBINDIR/xrdb" (err 2) >=20 > -- > ____________________________________________________________________ > Robert Paulsen http://paulsen.home.texas.= net> > paulsen(a)imailbox.com >=20 Do a 'man xrdb' to find out about xrdb, then check the contents of your ~/.Xdefaults file. --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0915353880965478872==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 25 18:37:41 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] NT fster than Linux? Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:37:41 -0500 Message-ID: <372360F5.D0985D85@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <3722CAF2.D4D89A8A@wa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5695938617855593535==" --===============5695938617855593535== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kristian Farren wrote: >=20 > Anybody else see this article, > http://www.micr= osoft.com/Windows/dailynews/042199.htm> > This seems to refute the bencmarking done by ZDNEt > a few month ago. Who's right? or does it just show that, > benchmarks like statistics, can be twisted to your advantage. > -- I saw an article on LinuxToday (yesterday) which documented the email header trail that was on the email from Mindcraft that asked for help in configuring the Linux server. They claimed no help was given, but on the same day an email response was posted which gave instructions on what to do and what to avoid. Mindcraft chose to use the settings which were advised against. The email header trail: it showed that the message came from an internal server on the microsoft.com campus, and was sent using "IE5 beta ITB", a version not released yet. To say that Mindcraft had help in maxing out the NT performance is an understatement... JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5695938617855593535==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Sun Apr 25 19:02:04 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] problem compiling applications - libs in wrong place? Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:02:04 -0500 Message-ID: <372366AC.9E017E75@navix.net> In-Reply-To: <37235746.3B28ED5B@bee.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2615505516640583322==" --===============2615505516640583322== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roy Brewer wrote: >=20 > I've tried to compile two apps recently (xfstt and kpackage) and they > both bombed because they couldn't find the file crtbegin.o. This file is > on the system, under /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtbegin.o. >=20 > Am I missing some symbolic link that would set up the directory tree > properly? Should I just modify the Makefile or configure files in > question to find the right libraries? If so, how do I do this? (I'm > obviously fairly new to Linux software development). Isn't there > supposed to be a standardized directory structure? You can modify Makefile, or you could run ./configure and let it make the modifications. Did you run ./configure before you ran make? Any text editor can be used to modify Makefile. I use either MC's edit mode or Pico. Standardized structure? If you are trying to modify Makefile to include libraries in non-standard locations (which uses the -L switch as apposed to the -l switch for libraries in the standard paths) and you haven't read/don't know what these switches mean and what the standard paths are then you have the cart before the horse. The -i switch is for libraries in /usr/lib and the -L switch is for libraries in other locations. I haven't said anything about the 'shorthand' used to represent the libraries: say you have a program called LeastSquares and you are using functions found in a static math library, libm.a, which is in /usr/lib.=20 You would compile LeastSquares by issuing:=20 cc -o LeastSquares -lm Why didn't I include the whole name of the library? Because libraries begin with 'lib' and the shorthand is not to include 'lib' - the switch knows to prefix m with 'lib' to get libm. How does -l know to append an 'a' and not 'sa' (for shared libraries)?=20 Well, see how the topic is growing? And the questions you're asking indicates you haven't even read the fundamentals. It time you took a breather from the mail-list server, got a good book on compiling and did some practice programming and compiling. Let me recommend "Beginning Linux Programming" and "Practical C++ Programming" and "Linux Application Development". They are at Amazon.com. No need to appoligize, we understand. ;-) >=20 > I'm using SuSE Linux v 6.0 upgraded to kernel 2.2.5, although I didn't > upgrade the glibc above its default 2.0.7pre6. >=20 > Thanks in advance > -Roy >=20 --=20 JLK Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2615505516640583322==-- From tomas@primenet.com Sun Apr 25 19:06:31 1999 From: tomas@primenet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CD-Rom Question Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 19:06:31 +0000 Message-ID: <372367B7.2DA9D9AD@primenet.com> In-Reply-To: <3723562C.F7628045@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7935962448151910935==" --===============7935962448151910935== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable George Toft wrote: >=20 > I didn't think you can partition an IDE CD-ROM. If you > can, please let me know - this could be useful. >=20 You can't partition it, but I wanted to rule out all posibilities by trying other device blocks based on the 'hdd' device :) > I see you got suckered on the old Acer 787 also. That > particular CD-ROM won't read CD-R's. It only reads > silver, factory-pressed CD's. I discovered this the > hard way, and verified it with their web site. >=20 Well it was free, so I'm not complaining, maybe I'll go out and upgrade for about $25.00 here in the next week or so, but I would like to get this working as any other will pretty much be the same way :) --=20 S.Toms - tomas(a)primenet.com - http://www.primenet.com/~tom= as> S.u.S.E. Linux v6.0+ - Kernel 2.2.6 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7935962448151910935==-- From james.frentress@itmship.com Sun Apr 25 19:35:28 1999 From: james.frentress@itmship.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] telnet use of yast Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:35:28 -0700 Message-ID: <0201A2FF6FCBD2119B1E00609776E7A30353B3@exchgsrv.itmship.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] telnet use of yast> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5126745187071606217==" --===============5126745187071606217== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Josh, yes, i was (ultimately) referring to telnet from nt. thanks for the pointer to a better client for nt. jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Josh Rodman [SMTP:jrodman(a)suse.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 1999 8:23 PM > To: alexm; suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] telnet use of yast >=20 >=20 > * alexm (alexm(a)quake.tx.symbio.net) [990422 21:33]: > >=20 > > Hi, > >=20 > > On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jim Frentress wrote: > > > yast is a very good tool for quickie configuration but i have trouble > > > with display over telnet. is there a way to run yast over telnet and > > > get a better display? > >=20 > > You need to export TERM. > > I noticed linux usually sets it to "linux" which is usually "unknown" > when > > telnetting from another machine type. > > e.g. for bash (ksh): > > # export TERM=3Dxterm > > or vt100 (can't use color and function keys though), > > or dtterm for CDE > > > > -alexm >=20 > While Alex is, of course, correct, the system you telnet from should have > already set the TERM variable up and transmitted this information across > the link. If it's not there on the host system, waggle your finger at the > admin (even if the admin is you). The command most commonly used to set > this up is 'tset' and should probably be in your .bashrc/.cshrc in some > form. >=20 > Another possibility is you may be referring to a telnet client running on > another type of operating system, such as Windows or a Mac. Be especially > wary of the Windows default 'telnet' program which claims to support > vt100, but doesn't come close to a functional implementition. You can get > lots of better telnet clients from http://www.tucows.com>. I used to use > CRT on windows when I had to use windows at all. >=20 > Best of Luck, > -josh > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5126745187071606217==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Sun Apr 25 20:20:35 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Windowmaker upgrade to 0.53 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:20:35 +0200 Message-ID: <37237913.B52165D2@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2107852153005862132==" --===============2107852153005862132== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, When you upgrade to windowmaker to 0.53 you need to erase the suse rpm package for windowmaker 0.51. (rpm -aq | grep wmaker , will find the name of the package). Than you also need to do a ldconfig after libProp is installed. Regards,=20 Joop Boonen. After installing you need to execute the following command:=20 wm-oldmenu2new -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2107852153005862132==-- From koen_dejonghe@yahoo.com Sun Apr 25 20:25:23 1999 From: koen_dejonghe@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: Running X on Win95 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:25:23 -0700 Message-ID: <19990425202523.26284.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Re: Running X on Win95> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1040570131588422781==" --===============1040570131588422781== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > works OK. I found running StarOffice was unacceptable > in this fashion, but xterms and Netscape work fine. >=20 Running StarOffice through an X terminal emulator resulted on my Linux machine in a system crash ! I am using Kea!X from Attachmate. And as far as web browsers is concerned: I am using IE to access the web. All you have to do is to configure apache as a proxy server. This messages is NOT intended to start a flame war (but I'm sick of Netscape.) =3D=3D=3D Koen Dejonghe tel: +32 (0)2 712 3668=20 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1040570131588422781==-- From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 25 20:29:13 1999 From: richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] shutdown -h and Master Resource Control Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 21:29:13 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01be8f5b$822c74a0$a41c883e@freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <371E1C17.C2E74CE4@Blazenet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3511180513798893968==" --===============3511180513798893968== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Aduanne Thanks for your email. Why does this not happen with 2.0.36? The SuSE manual shows that the last message is System halted. Under 2.2.2 the sequence is now: The System is halted System halted Master Resource Control: runlevel 0 has been reached. 2.2.2 seems to have added Master Resource etc etc. Maybe I have complied differently to the boxed 2.0.36 that came with SuSE 6? Cheers Richard > No this is SuSE specific not kernel specific. The script that displays > the message is in /etc/rc.d -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3511180513798893968==-- From Leonard_Ong@iname.com Sun Apr 25 20:42:47 1999 From: Leonard_Ong@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] What Else Broken in SuSE 6.0 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 03:42:47 +0700 Message-ID: <4.1.19990426034212.03be7c90@pop.rad.net.id> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3422952241251165276==" --===============3422952241251165276== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Beside GNOME what else is broken in SuSE 6.0 ? IS GIMP and Englightment also broken ? Please let me know thanks. Regards, Leonard Ong Leonard Advanced Research,Inc Leonard Ong | Confusious said : " The Journey of thousands miles=20 (=C3=8D=C3=B5=C2=B6=C2=B0=C2=BA=C3=80) | begins with a small s= ingle step " | Leonard_Ong(a)iname.com - Share Knowledge together! FreeBSD/Linux| UIN : 1041402 =3D=3D http://www.poboxes.co= m/Leonard_Ong> Powered | 68FB C87E 8A0D EC9F EC82 A6FC C547 B4E4 CA46 94DB ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.rad.net.id/internet> mailto:HelpDesk(a)rad.net.id http://jakarta.linux.or.id> mailto:leonard(a)jakarta.linux.or.id http://hmti.or= .id> mailto:leonard(a)hmti.o= r.id -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3422952241251165276==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 25 21:12:22 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Pine Problem Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:12:22 -0700 Message-ID: <19990425141222.A5353@basin.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1764614391421700388==" --===============1764614391421700388== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Gerry Doris on Sun, Apr 25, 1999 at 09:44:32AM -0400: >=20 > I have a different login name on my system than on my pop server. On my sy= stem > my login is "gerry" but on my pop server it's "gdoris". >=20 > No matter what I do I can't get pine to put "Gerry Doris " in > the From part of the message. The best that I can come up with is "Gerry D= oris > ". >=20 > I also can't login into the news server and I suspect it's because my name = is > not correct. >=20 > Is there a way to change this in pinerc??? >=20 >=20 > Gerry You can change the default behavior if you are using a version of pine less than 4.10 by editing the .pinerc file. I dont recall the exact syntax but you can see it by going to the pine information center on the web. You then set the From: address in Pine. You do not have to recompile pine if you are running the version which ships with SuSE 6. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1764614391421700388==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 25 22:22:03 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] What Else Broken in SuSE 6.0 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:22:03 -0700 Message-ID: <19990425152203.A11553@basin.com> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990426034212.03be7c90@pop.rad.net.id> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4949718112193846651==" --===============4949718112193846651== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Leonard Ong on Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 03:42:47AM +0700: >=20 > Hello, > Beside GNOME what else is broken in SuSE 6.0 ? >=20 > IS GIMP and Englightment also broken ? >=20 > Please let me know thanks. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Regards, > Leonard Ong > Leonard Advanced Research,Inc >=20 What exactly do you mean by broken? Gnome is not broken in suse 6; its an earlier release. If you peruse the suse ftp site you can find updated gnome applications and core stuff. I have gimp 1.0.2 running with gnome at various levels on my desktop and laptop and have not noticed anything broken. There is a slight work around with glib and gtk with gnome to get gimp working. I dont use enlightenment and if I did I would get the latest from Rasterman's ftp site. =20 You can basically install the gtkn and glibn and also install the glib and gtk and get the best of both worlds. This will allow gimp 1.0.2 to run off the suse 6 cds. I have not noticed anything badly broken in 6 besides tkrat which seems to suffer from a locale problem. Gnome is at the 0.30 level and reflects reality at that level. The later gnome rpms and tarballs released after suse 6 sustain a better level of integration with either windowmaker or enlightenment. Only my 0.2 worth. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4949718112193846651==-- From gdoris@home.com Sun Apr 25 22:39:42 1999 From: gdoris@home.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Pine Problem Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:39:42 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01be8f6c$8384a1e0$0200000a@leopard> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Pine Problem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8396410090069296069==" --===============8396410090069296069== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Darn, I'm using Pine 4.10. I guess I'll have to recompile! Gerry -----Original Message----- From: Michael Perry To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: April 25, 1999 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Pine Problem > >Quoting Gerry Doris on Sun, Apr 25, 1999 at 09:44:32AM -0400: >> >> I have a different login name on my system than on my pop server. On my system >> my login is "gerry" but on my pop server it's "gdoris". >> >> No matter what I do I can't get pine to put "Gerry Doris " in >> the From part of the message. The best that I can come up with is "Gerry Doris >> ". >> >> I also can't login into the news server and I suspect it's because my name is >> not correct. >> >> Is there a way to change this in pinerc??? >> >> >> Gerry >You can change the default behavior if you are using a version of pine less >than 4.10 by editing the .pinerc file. I dont recall the exact syntax but >you can see it by going to the pine information center on the web. You then >set the From: address in Pine. > >You do not have to recompile pine if you are running the version which ships >with SuSE 6. > > > >-- >Michael Perry >mperry(a)basin.com >---------------------- >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8396410090069296069==-- From landie@concentric.net Sun Apr 25 22:52:47 1999 From: landie@concentric.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] printer hp 5mp Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:52:47 -0400 Message-ID: <000001be8f6e$56d31080$bd11adce@roman> In-Reply-To: <3722D236.C00CC390@primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3433234763407582551==" --===============3433234763407582551== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The suse book does not mention hp 5mp as being compatible, is that the final word i cant use the 5mp with linux? RR -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3433234763407582551==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Apr 25 23:30:29 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Good News!! Jan is making suse 6 rpms again Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:30:29 -0700 Message-ID: <19990425163029.A11784@basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4202562988693433149==" --===============4202562988693433149== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just found that Jan is making suse 6 rpms again and has a new batch at www.gnome.org/suse/gnome.html. This means that if you want to use gnome and have installed his packages earlier you do not have to pull all the stuff off and reinstall. I like choice and this is choice!! --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4202562988693433149==-- From landie@concentric.net Sun Apr 25 23:51:14 1999 From: landie@concentric.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] sound Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 19:51:14 -0400 Message-ID: <000101be8f76$810d54c0$bd11adce@roman> In-Reply-To: <19990425152203.A11553@basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4839197051314149125==" --===============4839197051314149125== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable can some one pleae give me a primer on adding sound to linux, please to forward me to RTFM those HOWTO are very vague for novices.. RR -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4839197051314149125==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Sun Apr 25 23:56:24 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] problem compiling applications - libs in wrong place? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:56:24 +0200 Message-ID: <3723ABA8.731EEBC5@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <37235746.3B28ED5B@bee.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7837154825813296767==" --===============7837154825813296767== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roy Brewer wrote: >=20 > I've tried to compile two apps recently (xfstt and kpackage) and they > both bombed because they couldn't find the file crtbegin.o. This file is > on the system, under /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtbegin.o. Which compiler are you using? If there are multiple, every one has its own crtbegin.o=20 You seem to ge using gcc. And for gcc this is the standard location. 'gcc -v' will tell you which compiler you are using. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7837154825813296767==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Mon Apr 26 00:07:20 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] kde susehelp in German after running SuSEconfig Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 02:07:20 +0200 Message-ID: <3723AE38.23FF71F8@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <37234F79.105EB00F@bee.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6691631622684614189==" --===============6691631622684614189== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roy Brewer wrote: >=20 > I have SuSE 6.0. I noticed that whenever SuSEconfig is run, the SuSE > help icon switches from being susehelp to hilfe. Hence, the help system > will come up in German, even though everything else is in English. >=20 > I traced it this down to SuSEconfig.wm, which seems to hardcode the > hilfe command, even when the selected language is English. I'm not savvy > enough in writing macro or shell scripts to fix this, but I think it > should be easy. I had a look at that file. It's not hardcoded but this is the default if nothing else is specified. You could simply change 'german' to 'english' for the two variables TMPLANG and LL. Or you could have a look at you windowmanager's configuration file, where the command, which invokes SuSEconfig.wm, is started. If you find it, add the switch '-l english'. This should also do the job. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6691631622684614189==-- From sandsmark@iname.com Mon Apr 26 00:52:32 1999 From: sandsmark@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sound Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 17:52:32 -0700 Message-ID: <3723B8D0.AAC378D0@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <000101be8f76$810d54c0$bd11adce@roman> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1724752095636476220==" --===============1724752095636476220== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable landie wrote: >=20 > can some one pleae give me a primer on adding sound to linux, please to > forward me to RTFM those HOWTO are very vague for novices.. >=20 > RR >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> =20 you need to compile the Kernel with sound support. (ten steps to heaven) 1 download the latest kernel or keep the one you have 2 Get the manual out of your bookshelf, and figure out what kind of sound card you have. 3 get the IRQ, dma ++ settings for the sound card 4 uncompress the kernel you have downloaded, name it linux-x.x.x make a symlink to it that is called linux. 5 open the readme in /usr/src/linux-x.x.x file and read it, it is not vague. 6 start xconfig, config or...=20 7 configure the sound card section with the sound support (and the rest of the things you need) compile it and copy it to /boot 8 then you can run yast and put the new kernel in to lilo (you can have one called linux and the other called "whatever")=20 9 when you reboot the machine, press tab and both kernel names should be there.=20 10 just type inn the one that you want. if it does not work, reboot and chose the other one.=20 Even --=20 It is never too late to correct a mistake,=20 start using Linux today and get your life back. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1724752095636476220==-- From dward@hinet.net.au Mon Apr 26 02:13:29 1999 From: dward@hinet.net.au To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Help with RealAudio server Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:13:29 +1000 Message-ID: <199904261213290870.005F30CE@mail.hinet.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2016628229678557985==" --===============2016628229678557985== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone managed to set up a RealAudio server under Linux? I've just about got it right - but when I try and start it - I get an error "= unable to open PNA port 7070" RealAudio uses several ports to listen on and transmit on, and I know I'm jus= t not telling Linux the right information to set them up. I've tried to set them up in /etc/services and /etc/inetd.conf, but unfortuna= tely no joy - I'm probably doing something wrong... Any help would be appreciated! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2016628229678557985==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Mon Apr 26 02:23:27 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PENGUIN COMPUTING Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:23:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3723CE1F.BD000F23@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5814646869144185076==" --===============5814646869144185076== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Something for at least some of you to ponder. Fred __________________________ http://www.penguincomputing.com/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5814646869144185076==-- From jpenn@planetdirect.com Mon Apr 26 02:30:21 1999 From: jpenn@planetdirect.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Frame Buffer X Server Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 19:30:21 -0700 Message-ID: <19990426023021.17351.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8876103602173476363==" --===============8876103602173476363== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, everyone. I'm having trouble with my frame buffer X server, now. My kernel is great, all of my modules are fine, I'm just not having a good time with my X server. Every time I try to "startx" I get the following. { You must provide a "Screen" section in XF86Config for at least one of the following graphics drivers: fbdev Fatal server error: No configured graphics devices } I'd greatly appreciate any assistance anyone can offer. -=3D|JP|=3D- Here's my XF86Config for reference { Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" EndSection Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" AutoRepeat 500 30 LeftAlt Meta RightAlt Meta ScrollLock Compose RightCtl Control XkbKeycodes "xfree86" XkbTypes "default" XkbCompat "default" XkbSymbols "us(pc101)" XkbGeometry "pc" XkbRules "xfree86" XkbModel "pc104" XkbLayout "us" EndSection Section "Pointer" Protocol "PS/2" Device "/dev/mouse" Emulate3Timeout 50 Resolution 100 Buttons 3 Emulate3Buttons EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Primary Monitor" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown" HorizSync 31.5-48.5 VertRefresh 55-90 Modeline "1024x768" 65.00 1024 1048 1192 1340 768 771 777 806 -hsync -v= sync EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Primary Card" EndSection Section "Screen" Driver "FBDev" Device "Primary Card" Monitor "Primary Monitor" SubSection "Display" Modes "default" EndSubSection EndSection } -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8876103602173476363==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Mon Apr 26 02:48:56 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sound Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:48:56 -1000 Message-ID: <3723D418.FC99EF1F@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <3723B8D0.AAC378D0@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6604671509796377106==" --===============6604671509796377106== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Even wrote: >=20 > landie wrote: > > > > can some one pleae give me a primer on adding sound to linux, please to > > forward me to RTFM those HOWTO are very vague for novices.. > > > > RR > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/S= upport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 >=20 > you need to compile the Kernel with sound support. >=20 > (ten steps to heaven) [---snip---] Way to difficult!!! Ensure oss is installed and read this file: /usr/doc/packages/oss/INSTALL I've used oss on two different systems and it works well. Search the SuSE threads for oss - there is more information there. --=20 George Toft http://gtoft.dynip.com/LinuxAdvocate= /> __ __ _ __ __ __ ___ ___ | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / -o) | | | | | \_| | | | | | \ \/ / (o- /\\ | |__ | | | | | |_| | / /\ \ //\ _\_v |_____||__| |__|\___| \_______| /__/ \__\ v_/_ Don't fear the penguins... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6604671509796377106==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Mon Apr 26 02:56:27 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Key MS exec might run to RoadRunner Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:56:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3723D5DB.77F5CE7D@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4422607683004591295==" --===============4422607683004591295== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable htt= p://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2245847,00.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4422607683004591295==-- From hknief@taos.com Mon Apr 26 03:25:09 1999 From: hknief@taos.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sound Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:25:09 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000101be8f76$810d54c0$bd11adce@roman> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5594799595742261717==" --===============5594799595742261717== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The simplest way is to leave sound out of the kernel and install the oss=20 package that ships on the CDROM... Run the installer and then turn it=20 on. It's a simple readme for the install/config. - Herman On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, landie wrote: >=20 > can some one pleae give me a primer on adding sound to linux, please to > forward me to RTFM those HOWTO are very vague for novices.. >=20 > RR >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5594799595742261717==-- From royb@bee.net Mon Apr 26 05:12:08 1999 From: royb@bee.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] kde susehelp in German after running SuSEconfig Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:12:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3723F5A7.4E39973F@bee.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] kde susehelp in German after running SuSEconfig> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8740806771144496585==" --===============8740806771144496585== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't beleive changing the language or other variable in the SuSEconfig.wm will work. All the text of the KDE menu system,is in English. The only place the language variables are used (as far as I can tell) is in the (human readable) text lables of the KDE menu system. The problem is that (unlike most of the programs on the KD menus) the application itself is different for German and English ('hilfe' in the former and 'susehelp' in the latter). I don't know what would happen if another language was specified. I suspect you'd get the German system (hilfe) no matter what you requested. There's an easy work around (just create your own shortcut instead of using the system generated one). And even if you didn't do this, the German page has a handy hyperlink to the English page. It just annoys me in general when computer systems do silly things like this, because its clear that it could be fixed easily. Its all the more frustrating since this is the help system for which beginners like myself will turn to often. I could probably fix it myself. I just didn't have any interest in chasing down (and learning the syntax for) the myriad scripts to find the cause. Perhaps after I become more adept at Linux I'll try to fix the set-up scripts. Thanks - Roy hhv wrote: > Roy Brewer wrote: > > > I traced it this down to SuSEconfig.wm, which seems to hardcode the > > hilfe command, even when the selected language is English. I'm not savvy > > enough in writing macro or shell scripts to fix this, but I think it > > should be easy. > > Addition / correction to my previous mail. > > the second solution I offered will presumably work only if you > directly invoke SuSEconfig.wm. So it might not be the real solution > to your problem. However, the first one _should_ work, b/c this > changes the defaults. > > Henmning > > -- > H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8740806771144496585==-- From royb@bee.net Mon Apr 26 05:23:24 1999 From: royb@bee.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] problem compiling applications - libs in wrong place? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:23:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3723F84C.47591635@bee.net> In-Reply-To: <372366AC.9E017E75@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0831832074232483097==" --===============0831832074232483097== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I followed the directions in the README files: I ran configure in one case and make in the other. See my response below. Thanks for your help -Roy Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > Roy Brewer wrote: > > > > I've tried to compile two apps recently (xfstt and kpackage) and they > > both bombed because they couldn't find the file crtbegin.o. This file is > > on the system, under /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtbegin.o. > > > > Am I missing some symbolic link that would set up the directory tree > > properly? Should I just modify the Makefile or configure files in > > question to find the right libraries? If so, how do I do this? (I'm > > obviously fairly new to Linux software development). Isn't there > > supposed to be a standardized directory structure? > > You can modify Makefile, or you could run ./configure and let it make > the modifications. Did you run ./configure before you ran make? > Any text editor can be used to modify Makefile. I use either MC's edit > mode or Pico. > Standardized structure? If you are trying to modify Makefile to include > libraries in non-standard locations (which uses the -L switch as apposed > to the -l switch for libraries in the standard paths) and you haven't > read/don't know what these switches mean and what the standard paths are > then you have the cart before the horse. The -i switch is for libraries > in /usr/lib and the -L switch is for libraries in other locations. I > haven't said anything about the 'shorthand' used to represent the > libraries: say you have a program called LeastSquares and you are using > functions found in a static math library, libm.a, which is in /usr/lib. > You would compile LeastSquares by issuing: > cc -o LeastSquares -lm > Why didn't I include the whole name of the library? Because libraries > begin with 'lib' and the shorthand is not to include 'lib' - the switch > knows to prefix m with 'lib' to get libm. > How does -l know to append an 'a' and not 'sa' (for shared libraries)? > Well, see how the topic is growing? And the questions you're asking > indicates you haven't even read the fundamentals. > It time you took a breather from the mail-list server, got a good book > on compiling and did some practice programming and compiling. Let me > recommend "Beginning Linux Programming" and "Practical C++ Programming" > and "Linux Application Development". They are at Amazon.com. > No need to appoligize, we understand. ;-) > > > > > I'm using SuSE Linux v 6.0 upgraded to kernel 2.2.5, although I didn't > > upgrade the glibc above its default 2.0.7pre6. > > > > Thanks in advance > > -Roy > > > > -- > > JLK > Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is > right. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0831832074232483097==-- From royb@bee.net Mon Apr 26 06:21:56 1999 From: royb@bee.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] problem compiling applications - libs in wrong place? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 02:21:56 -0400 Message-ID: <37240603.45F73A97@bee.net> In-Reply-To: <3723ABA8.731EEBC5@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0899531149449067126==" --===============0899531149449067126== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This appears to be my problem: the makefile specifies g++ (CC=3Dc++) for the complier, which is not the same as gcc. I guess I'm only set up to use gcc in terms of the libraries. When I edited the Makefile (CC =3D gcc), the program compiled, although it complained with a bunch of warnings. I don't know enough about the two compilers to know if the flags are the same between the two. All I know is that I was able to compile kernel 2.2.5 with the included makefiles (at least I think the kernel is OK). Can I have both compilers set up at the same time? If not, which one should I use? I'm curious to learn about all the development tools etc. that Linux has to offer. But, right now I just want to have a system I can use so I don't have to boot intoWindows 95 all the time for "real work". I'm not against compiling stuff, but if I I have to chase down things like this all the time just to build simple packages, then Linux will just be a toy for me, alas. Thanks for your help -Roy hhv wrote: > Roy Brewer wrote: > > > > I've tried to compile two apps recently (xfstt and kpackage) and they > > both bombed because they couldn't find the file crtbegin.o. This file is > > on the system, under /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtbegin.o. > > Which compiler are you using? If there are multiple, every one > has its own crtbegin.o > You seem to ge using gcc. And for gcc this is the standard location. > 'gcc -v' will tell you which compiler you are using. > > Henning > > -- > H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0899531149449067126==-- From Gordon.Filby@pef.fzk.de Mon Apr 26 06:51:32 1999 From: Gordon.Filby@pef.fzk.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Trouble with 6.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:51:32 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5348770781295230922==" --===============5348770781295230922== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    Hallo,
    
    well, not specifically 6.1  - I would have had the same problems with other
    versions if I'd thought about it. Following is getting on my nerves.
    
    1. ppp. do I have to recompile the kernel just to get ppp support? I've done
    this with previous versions and had no trouble but with 6.1 after installing
    the default version and subsequently trying to add ppp I get "system too
    big" and "try make bzImage" error 2 . When I do this it is still too big.
    Hence the question. Also perhaps I've misunderstood something (am fairly new
    to Linux) but as ppp is so  frequently used why isn't it in the default
    kernel? When I was at the absolute beginner stage I spent hours trying to
    set up ppp/kppp only to discover that it was supported by my kernel. These
    things are difficult for beginners working alone.
    
    2. Again I have the feeling I've misunderstood something. When I select a
    configuration to load during installation there is always much more stuff in
    there than I would ever want. Can I somehow edit out the stuff I don't want
    BEFORE installation. Previously I've removed it after installation but
    always with  the guilty feeling that this can't be the way to do it!!
    
    BTW I'm using the German language version.
    
    Best Regards
    
    Gordon Filby
    Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe
    Postfach 3640
    D-76021 Karlsruhe
    
    Tel: 07247-82-5193
    
    e-mail:Gordon.Filby(a)pef.fzk.de
     <> 
    
    Filby,

    --===============5348770781295230922==-- From f5tmz@leradome.com Mon Apr 26 07:18:33 1999 From: f5tmz@leradome.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PPP Gateway Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:18:33 +0200 Message-ID: <001601be8fb4$fef1d760$0200a8c0@ampr.org> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990425130307.02fa3f10@pop.rad.net.id> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9109470810011740188==" --===============9109470810011740188== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi , Have u tried to set it up as ur default route ? ex : ifconfig ppp0 up route add 0.0.0.0 ppp0 ----- Original Message ----- From: Leonard Ong To: ; ; Sent: Sunday, April 25, 1999 8:06 AM Subject: [SuSE Linux] PPP Gateway Email dalam bahasa Indonesia di bagian bawah :) Hello, I have an eth0 configured, and it's gateway. Whenever my PPP0 up, it is automatically assignned with my eth0's gateway. Of course that would make my PPP0 broken i.e. can't connect / ping to internet. Is there a way to let ifconfig know that use gateway A for IP A, and use gateway B for IP B ? System : 2.2.6 / SuSe 6.0 / checked which gateway assigned to ppp0 with netstat -nr ------------ Hello, Saya mempunyai eth0 yang sudah terkonfigurasi dengan baik, setiap kali saya terhubung ke ISP dengan ppp0, ppp0 ini diberikan gateway local atau eth0 sehinggga PPP tidak berfungsi. Apakah ada cara untuk mengatasi ini ? Sementara ini saya harus kill eth0, jalankan ppp agar dia assign ke gateway ISP baru run eth0 lagi. Thanks Regards, Leonard Ong Leonard Advanced Research,Inc Leonard Ong | Confusious said : " The Journey of thousands miles (=C3=8D=C3=B5=C2=B6=C2=B0=C2=BA=C3=80) | begins with a small s= ingle step " | Leonard_Ong(a)iname.com - Share Knowledge together! FreeBSD/Linux| UIN : 1041402 =3D=3D http://www.poboxes.co= m/Leonard_Ong> Powered | 68FB C87E 8A0D EC9F EC82 A6FC C547 B4E4 CA46 94DB ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.rad.net.id/internet> mailto:HelpDesk(a)rad.net.id http://jakarta.linux.or.id> mailto:leonard(a)jakarta.linux.or.id http://hmti.or= .id> mailto:leonard(a)hmti.or.= id -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9109470810011740188==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Mon Apr 26 07:33:30 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: Fwd: [SuSE Linux] Xosview Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:33:30 +0200 Message-ID: <372416CA.663DA616@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2918637580125800799==" --===============2918637580125800799== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Leonard, When you are using kernel 2.2.x you need to upgrade xosview as it uses different register sizes for kernel 2.2.x than 2.2.0. You can download the xosview source at: http= ://lore.ece.utexas.edu/~bgrayson/xosview.html> i got there via http:\\www.linuxberg.com. As soon as you have upgrade it'll work fine. Regards, Joop Boonen. Leonard Ong wrote: >=20 > Email dalam bahasa Indonesia di bagian bawah :) >=20 > Hello, > I just upgraded my xosview into 2.2 ( latest, if i'm not mistaken ), > and > it's very nice. However, top reported that xosview use my CPU 100 % > and so > does xosview itself. What's wrong ? > I am using kernel 2.2.6 > ------------ >=20 > Hello, > Saya baru saja mengupgrade xosview saya ke versi terakhir, setelah > menjalankannya xosview melaporkan cpu 100 0an top melaporkan cpu > digunakan > 100 0leh xosview. Mohon pendapat, apa yang salah ? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Regards, > Leonard Ong > Leonard Advanced Research,Inc >=20 > Leonard Ong | Confusious said : " The Journey of thousands miles > (=C3=8D=C3=B5=C2=B6=C2=B0=C2=BA=C3=80) | begins with a small= single step " > | Leonard_Ong(a)iname.com - Share Knowledge together! > FreeBSD/Linux| UIN : 1041402 =3D=3D http://www.poboxes.= com/Leonard_Ong> > Powered | 68FB C87E 8A0D EC9F EC82 A6FC C547 B4E4 CA46 94DB > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.rad.net.id/internet> mailto:HelpDesk(a)rad.net.id > http://jakarta.linux.or.id> mailto:leonard(a)jakarta.linux.or.id > http://hmti.= or.id> mailto:l= eonard(a)hmti.or.id >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and > the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2918637580125800799==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Mon Apr 26 07:38:35 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Wine - Microsoft Word 97 ? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:38:35 +0200 Message-ID: <372417FB.942D3ACF@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Wine - Microsoft Word 97 ?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7926109565596433404==" --===============7926109565596433404== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Leonard, Wine is a 'clone for windows 3.1'. This is a 16 bit version of Windows. Office 97 is written for Windows 9x. This is a 32 bits version of windows. By the way office 97 doesn't run on Windows 3.x.=20 There are two possibilities. You can use vmware for http= ://www.vmware.com/> or you use office 4.2. Regards, Joop Boonen. Leonard Ong wrote: >=20 > Email dalam bahasa Indonesia di bagian bawah :) >=20 > Hello, > I have configured /etc/wine.etc ( it yielded not error, i.e. wine does > not > complain ). But I can not run winword.exe with it. Is anyone out > there can > do this ? I'm using 2.2.6, 64 mb ram, and SuSE 6.0 >=20 > ------------ >=20 > Hello, > Ada yang bisa menjalankan winword.exe ( 97 ) di linux dengan wine ? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Regards, > Leonard Ong > Leonard Advanced Research,Inc >=20 > Leonard Ong | Confusious said : " The Journey of thousands miles > (=C3=8D=C3=B5=C2=B6=C2=B0=C2=BA=C3=80) | begins with a small= single step " > | Leonard_Ong(a)iname.com - Share Knowledge together! > FreeBSD/Linux| UIN : 1041402 =3D=3D http://www.poboxes.= com/Leonard_Ong> > Powered | 68FB C87E 8A0D EC9F EC82 A6FC C547 B4E4 CA46 94DB > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.rad.net.id/internet> mailto:HelpDesk(a)rad.net.id > http://jakarta.linux.or.id> mailto:leonard(a)jakarta.linux.or.id > http://hmti.= or.id> mailto:l= eonard(a)hmti.or.id >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and > the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7926109565596433404==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Mon Apr 26 07:39:03 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Xosview Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:39:03 +0200 Message-ID: <37241817.9FBAEA54@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Xosview> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1167098187707991293==" --===============1167098187707991293== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Leonard, When you are using kernel 2.2.x you need to upgrade xosview as it uses different register sizes for kernel 2.2.x than 2.2.0. You can download the xosview source at: http= ://lore.ece.utexas.edu/~bgrayson/xosview.html> i got there via http:\\www.linuxberg.com. As soon as you have upgrade it'll work fine. Regards, Joop Boonen. Leonard Ong wrote: >=20 > Email dalam bahasa Indonesia di bagian bawah :) >=20 > Hello, > I just upgraded my xosview into 2.2 ( latest, if i'm not mistaken ), > and > it's very nice. However, top reported that xosview use my CPU 100 % > and so > does xosview itself. What's wrong ? > I am using kernel 2.2.6 > ------------ >=20 > Hello, > Saya baru saja mengupgrade xosview saya ke versi terakhir, setelah > menjalankannya xosview melaporkan cpu 100 0an top melaporkan cpu > digunakan > 100 0leh xosview. Mohon pendapat, apa yang salah ? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Regards, > Leonard Ong > Leonard Advanced Research,Inc >=20 > Leonard Ong | Confusious said : " The Journey of thousands miles > (=C3=8D=C3=B5=C2=B6=C2=B0=C2=BA=C3=80) | begins with a small= single step " > | Leonard_Ong(a)iname.com - Share Knowledge together! > FreeBSD/Linux| UIN : 1041402 =3D=3D http://www.poboxes.= com/Leonard_Ong> > Powered | 68FB C87E 8A0D EC9F EC82 A6FC C547 B4E4 CA46 94DB > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.rad.net.id/internet> mailto:HelpDesk(a)rad.net.id > http://jakarta.linux.or.id> mailto:leonard(a)jakarta.linux.or.id > http://hmti.= or.id> mailto:l= eonard(a)hmti.or.id >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and > the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1167098187707991293==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Mon Apr 26 07:43:34 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Xosview Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:43:34 +0200 Message-ID: <37241926.B53E1C91@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Xosview> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9136974199195866089==" --===============9136974199195866089== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Leonard, When you are using kernel 2.2.x you need to upgrade xosview as it uses different register sizes for kernel 2.2.x than 2.0.x. You can download the xosview source at: http= ://lore.ece.utexas.edu/~bgrayson/xosview.html> i got there via http:\\www.linuxberg.com. As soon as you have upgrade it'll work fine. Regards, Joop Boonen. Leonard Ong wrote: >=20 > Email dalam bahasa Indonesia di bagian bawah :) >=20 > Hello, > I just upgraded my xosview into 2.2 ( latest, if i'm not mistaken ), > and > it's very nice. However, top reported that xosview use my CPU 100 % > and so > does xosview itself. What's wrong ? > I am using kernel 2.2.6 > ------------ >=20 > Hello, > Saya baru saja mengupgrade xosview saya ke versi terakhir, setelah > menjalankannya xosview melaporkan cpu 100 0an top melaporkan cpu > digunakan > 100 0leh xosview. Mohon pendapat, apa yang salah ? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Regards, > Leonard Ong > Leonard Advanced Research,Inc >=20 > Leonard Ong | Confusious said : " The Journey of thousands miles > (=C3=8D=C3=B5=C2=B6=C2=B0=C2=BA=C3=80) | begins with a small= single step " > | Leonard_Ong(a)iname.com - Share Knowledge together! > FreeBSD/Linux| UIN : 1041402 =3D=3D http://www.poboxes.= com/Leonard_Ong> > Powered | 68FB C87E 8A0D EC9F EC82 A6FC C547 B4E4 CA46 94DB > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.rad.net.id/internet> mailto:HelpDesk(a)rad.net.id > http://jakarta.linux.or.id> mailto:leonard(a)jakarta.linux.or.id > http://hmti.= or.id> mailto:l= eonard(a)hmti.or.id >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and > the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9136974199195866089==-- From marcel.donker@asml.nl Mon Apr 26 07:46:02 1999 From: marcel.donker@asml.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] shortcut keys in nedit ...again Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:46:02 +0200 Message-ID: <372419BA.F719EFC7@asml.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1557486399023241028==" --===============1557486399023241028== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Folks, There was a message on this mailing-list a while ago (two or three weeks or so) about the use of shortcut keys in de nedit editor. At the time I didn't find it important but,.... now I have the same question. How do I set these shortcut keys active (i.e. ctr-Q for quit, crt-F for find etc.)? Sorry, to ask this question again but at the time I didn't save the answer to this question in my mailbox. Thanks in advance, Marcel --=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Marcel Donker ASM Lithography Software Development ATLAS Run 6665 mailto:marcel.donker(a)asml.nl<= /A> 5504 DT Veldhoven Phone: +31-(0)40-2305321 The Netherlands ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Portability is for people who cannot write new programs" - Linus Torvalds -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1557486399023241028==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Mon Apr 26 07:51:21 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Wine - Microsoft Word 97 ? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:51:21 +0200 Message-ID: <37241AF9.289D85DC@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Wine - Microsoft Word 97 ?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0750377074399655302==" --===============0750377074399655302== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Leonard, Wine is a 'clone for windows 3.1'. This is a 16 bit version of Windows. Office 97 is written for Windows 9x. This is a 32 bits version of windows. By the way office 97 doesn't run on Windows 3.x.=20 There are two possibilities. You can use vmware for http= ://www.vmware.com/> or you use office 4.2. Regards, Joop Boonen. Leonard Ong wrote: >=20 > Email dalam bahasa Indonesia di bagian bawah :) >=20 > Hello, > I have configured /etc/wine.etc ( it yielded not error, i.e. wine does > not > complain ). But I can not run winword.exe with it. Is anyone out > there can > do this ? I'm using 2.2.6, 64 mb ram, and SuSE 6.0 >=20 > ------------ >=20 > Hello, > Ada yang bisa menjalankan winword.exe ( 97 ) di linux dengan wine ? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Regards, > Leonard Ong > Leonard Advanced Research,Inc >=20 > Leonard Ong | Confusious said : " The Journey of thousands miles > (=C3=8D=C3=B5=C2=B6=C2=B0=C2=BA=C3=80) | begins with a small= single step " > | Leonard_Ong(a)iname.com - Share Knowledge together! > FreeBSD/Linux| UIN : 1041402 =3D=3D http://www.poboxes.= com/Leonard_Ong> > Powered | 68FB C87E 8A0D EC9F EC82 A6FC C547 B4E4 CA46 94DB > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.rad.net.id/internet> mailto:HelpDesk(a)rad.net.id > http://jakarta.linux.or.id> mailto:leonard(a)jakarta.linux.or.id > http://hmti.= or.id> mailto:l= eonard(a)hmti.or.id >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and > the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0750377074399655302==-- From marcel.donker@asml.nl Mon Apr 26 07:58:12 1999 From: marcel.donker@asml.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Trouble with 6.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:58:12 +0200 Message-ID: <37241C93.D7D5A78F@asml.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3513208542863713046==" --===============3513208542863713046== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Filby, Gordon wrote: > 1. ppp. do I have to recompile the kernel just to get ppp support? I've done > this with previous versions and had no trouble but with 6.1 after installing > the default version and subsequently trying to add ppp I get "system too > big" and "try make bzImage" error 2 . When I do this it is still too big. Got the same message when trying to compile my first own kernel yesterday. I solved it by putting some drivers and other options as modules into the kernel. Actually I learned that you only have to have the most essential stuff directly into your kernel (or drivers that are fairly new and don't have a module version yet). The kernel-deamon takes care of loading or unloading modules that are needed or not needed anymore. In this way you get a much smaller kernel size which is faster to load. > Hence the question. Also perhaps I've misunderstood something (am fairly new > to Linux) but as ppp is so frequently used why isn't it in the default > kernel? Probably for the same reason. You can just configure it as a module. In that way it only gets loaded when it's needed. Good luck, Marcel --=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Marcel Donker ASM Lithography Software Development ATLAS Run 6665 mailto:marcel.donker(a)asml.nl<= /A> 5504 DT Veldhoven Phone: +31-(0)40-2305321 The Netherlands ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Portability is for people who cannot write new programs" - Linus Torvalds -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3513208542863713046==-- From brian@icl.net Mon Apr 26 07:59:47 1999 From: brian@icl.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: X display on win95 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:59:47 +0100 Message-ID: <37241CF3.DD68116D@icl.net> In-Reply-To: <19990425132457.35576.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3326885244060965773==" --===============3326885244060965773== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have a look at the Virtual Network Computer at http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/> > VNC stands for Virtual Network Computing. It is, in essence, a remote displ= ay system which allows you to view a computing > 'desktop' environment not only on the machine where it is= running, but from anywhere on the Internet and from a wide variety of > machine architectures. > Many of us, for example, use a VNC viewer running on a PC on our desks to d= isplay our Unix environments which > are running on a > large server in the machine room downstairs.=20 brian -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3326885244060965773==-- From marcel.donker@asml.nl Mon Apr 26 08:24:21 1999 From: marcel.donker@asml.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] sound question...also Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:24:21 +0200 Message-ID: <372422B5.ECE321FA@asml.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4733710068494065196==" --===============4733710068494065196== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi again, I've got my SoundBlaster PCI64 working last night. Took me a while, but on the way learned a lot about Linux and compiling kernels etc. It gets nicer every day! But, I still have a little question. The soundcard works o.k.. I tested it with a cd-player program and it played my audio cd's alright. Then tested it by playing some .au sounds with cat 'soundfile.au > /dev/audio' and it also played the sound alright. But it didn't play other sound formats like .wav files (only a lot of noise). I know that .wav is a M$ Winblows sound format, but on the other hand KDE only uses .wav sounds as systems sounds (??). I can't get them to play either. My questions: - Is there something I forgot to set in my KDE configuration? - Or is there something to install which translates these sounds into .au-sounds.=20 - is .au the defacto sound 'standard' under linux/unix? (I know it is a Sun format) Thanks in advance, Marcel --=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Marcel Donker ASM Lithography Software Development ATLAS Run 6665 mailto:marcel.donker(a)asml.nl<= /A> 5504 DT Veldhoven Phone: +31-(0)40-2305321 The Netherlands ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Portability is for people who cannot write new programs" - Linus Torvalds -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4733710068494065196==-- From sj_shannon@yahoo.com Mon Apr 26 08:52:30 1999 From: sj_shannon@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Linux dial out problem Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:52:30 -0700 Message-ID: <19990426085230.19842.rocketmail@web605.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0946032525042055923==" --===============0946032525042055923== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am currently running SuSE 6.0 as the server. I have 3 Windows based machines trying to connect to the internet via the linux box. My question is, how would I go about forcing linux to dial-out without having to telnet into it? Preferably something easy for the 98/NT box's, because my family isn't to computer literate. Thank you _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0946032525042055923==-- From venrooij@casema.net Mon Apr 26 09:13:59 1999 From: venrooij@casema.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sound question...also Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:13:59 +0200 Message-ID: <37242E57.DA326BC9@casema.net> In-Reply-To: <372422B5.ECE321FA@asml.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8313919590239163762==" --===============8313919590239163762== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I use the older Ensoniq version of the Soundblaster PCI64. I experience no difficulties playing .wav files when I "cat .wav > /dev/audio1". I believe that /dev/audio assumes a different sample rate, leading to erroneous playback. No noise though. One thing you should be aware of when using KDE, is that the SuSE startkde script (in /etc/X11R6/bin I suppose) seems to test for OSS driver modules. Since this is not the case with these PCI soundcards, the test fails and kaudioserver and kwmsound (in /opt/kde/bin) are not started. The easiest way out is to add these to the Autostart directory in your personal Desktop entry. Alternatively you can edit the startkde script. After this the KDE system sounds should work. Don't forget the mixer settings ;-) Hope this helps Tim. Marcel Donker wrote: >=20 > Hi again, >=20 > I've got my SoundBlaster PCI64 working last night. Took me a while, but > on the way learned a lot about Linux and compiling kernels etc. It gets > nicer every day! >=20 > But, I still have a little question. The soundcard works o.k.. I tested > it with a cd-player program and it played my audio cd's alright. Then > tested it by playing some .au sounds with cat 'soundfile.au > > /dev/audio' and it also played the sound alright. But it didn't play > other sound formats like .wav files (only a lot of noise). I know that > .wav is a M$ Winblows sound format, but on the other hand KDE only uses > .wav sounds as systems sounds (??). I can't get them to play either. >=20 > My questions: >=20 > - Is there something I forgot to set in my KDE configuration? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8313919590239163762==-- From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Mon Apr 26 09:26:39 1999 From: bobbyg@ihug.co.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Wine - Microsoft Word 97 ? Hi Joop & yes Wine does Word-badly...? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:26:39 +1200 Message-ID: <3724314F.A2E101E0@ihug.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7519972182909232581==" --===============7519972182909232581== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys & happy geeking to all.

    Now Joop wrote the folling to Leonard Ong
    =20

    "Wine is a 'clone for windows 3.1'. This is a 16 bit version of Windows.
    Office 97 is written for Windows 9x. This is a 32 bits version of
    windows. By the way office 97 doesn't run on Windows 3.x.

    There are two possibilities. You can use vmware for
    = http://www.vmware.com/> or you use office 4.2."

    Regards,

    Joop Boonen.
    =20

    Leonard Ong wrote:
    >
    > Email dalam bahasa Indonesia di bagian bawah :)
    >
    > Hello,
    > I have configured /etc/wine.etc ( it yielded not error, i.e. wine does
    > not
    > complain ). But I can not run winword.exe with it. Is anyone out
    > there can
    > do this ? I'm using 2.2.6, 64 mb ram, and SuSE 6.0
    >
    > ------------
    >
    > Hello,
    > Ada yang bisa menjalankan winword.exe ( 97 ) di linux dengan wine ?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Regards,
    > Leonard Ong
    > Leonard Advanced Research,Inc
    =20
    =20

    Here is a cut & paste from Linuxberg: =20 Remeber Wine is still Beta, so it might not fly so well.... Good luck.=20 :-)
    =20
    =20

    =20 Wine

    =20 Version: Stable 990328
    =20 Revision Date: March 28, 1999
    =20 Byte Size: 3,168,647
    =20 License: BSD
    =20 Home Page:
    http://www.winehq.com/>
    =20 Binaries: RPM, libc5
    =20 Description: Wine is an implementation of the Windows 3.x and
    =20 Win32 APIs on top of X and Unix. Think of Wine as a Windows
    =20 compatibility layer. Wine provides both a development toolkit
    =20 (Winelib) for porting Windows sources to Unix and a program loader,
    =20 allowing unmodified Windows 3.1/95/NT binaries to run under Intel
    =20 Unixes. Wine works on most popular Intel Unixes, including Linux,
    =20 FreeBSD, and Solaris. Wine does not require Microsoft Windows, as
    =20 it is a completely alternative implementation consisting of 100%
    =20 Microsoft Free code, but it can optionally use native system DLLs if
    =20 they are available. Wine comes with complete sources,
    =20 documentation and examples and is freely redistributable.
    =20
    =20

    Greek Geek. :-)
    =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html --===============7519972182909232581==-- From michael.doerner@clear.net.nz Mon Apr 26 09:41:02 1999 From: michael.doerner@clear.net.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] masquerade which device to use? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:41:02 +1200 Message-ID: <000001be8fc8$e5d62380$0b00a8c0@pc001.baypc.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6802346962005207696==" --===============6802346962005207696== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I am having trouble in setting up masquerading. The problem seems to be the use of the "-W " parameter in the ipfwadm operation in the original SuSE script (SuSE 5.3). When I use exactly the same ipfwadm statement without the -W operand it works fine. The is taken from the Yast generation where it is called MSQ_DEV. Which device should actually be used here? I tried them all: eth0, sl0, ppp0. I tried also "*" and "all" but none of these works. All (without "*") are accepted but when you start the masquerading this entry in the forwarding table is never used - even when it is the first one there? /sbin/init.d/masquerade list looks like this: IP firewall forward rules, default policy: accept pkts bytes type prot opt tosa tosx ifname ifaddress source destination ports 0 0 acc/m all ---- 0xFF 0x00 all 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 n/a 15 878 acc/m all ---- 0xFF 0x00 * 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 n/a IP masquerading entries The first entry was a try where I used "all" as a possible device, here called ifname. All rules are the same for the second entry. The SuSE example uses "ISDN0" as the device name but I am still operating with a modem, not on ISDN (still Too expensive here in NZ. It's a shame.) Thanks for any help. Michael Doerner -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at
    <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6802346962005207696==-- From hallam@rsc.anu.edu.au Mon Apr 26 10:08:15 1999 From: hallam@rsc.anu.edu.au To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Lyx printing and ps preview Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:08:15 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3033080343578306985==" --===============3033080343578306985== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm using lyx under suse 6 and have problems with the printing and previewing of documents. It complains about not being able to find file ~/whateeveritwasa.TEX. any ideas as I love lyx. I've always used it on redhat before. /dlh. ------------------------------------------ E-Mail: David Hallam on Linux at home =20 Date: 26-Apr-99 Time: 20:08:15 http://www.rsc.anu.edu.au/~hallam/> This message was sent by XFMail=20 ----------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3033080343578306985==-- From TXDELBAE@ctrl.co.uk Mon Apr 26 10:57:27 1999 From: TXDELBAE@ctrl.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Printer-Restarting queue Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:57:27 +0100 Message-ID: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B9B5B@ctrl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2533752636047770901==" --===============2533752636047770901== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have my Home machine running Linux 2.0.36, and I have been trying to get my printer to work (Epson 640). I have a queue set up that I can cat a file to no problem, but when I try to print with any other program, nothing come out. The queue has a no spooling, no printing flag set. Now I have read the man lpq pages and I should be able to just 'lpq restart all', but this does NOT restart my lp queue. Any other ideas. Tim Delbaere Environment & 0171 692 8024 ) EGH 603 <mailto:txdelbae(a)ctrl.co.uk> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2533752636047770901==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Mon Apr 26 11:05:09 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.6 Kernel Compile Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:05:09 +0100 Message-ID: <199904261105.MAA19241@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8177650223801346313==" --===============8177650223801346313== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello After successfully compiling a 2.2.6 kernel I have now=20 tried to compile the same kernel with modules. When I reboot a kernel with modules I find that it starts up and=20 then about half way through the boot process the screen fills up with=20 text which continues to spool from bottom to top without end. I have=20 to reboot with the boot floppy to use the 2.0.36 kernel which came=20 with 6.0. Someone has suggested to me that this is something to do with a with = a modutils package (>=3D2.1.121) which needs to be updated when I moved=20 from 2.0.x to 2.2.x. I've looked at the installed packages. I can=20 see a package called modules which is version 2.1.85. Surely=20 modutils is a Red Hat package ? Can someone make a suggestion as to how I can get modules to work=20 with a 2.2.6 kernel and SuSE 6.0 ? Thank you :-) Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8177650223801346313==-- From r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk Mon Apr 26 11:20:21 1999 From: r.ibbotson@zen.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Star Office Desktop icon Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:20:21 +0100 Message-ID: <199904261120.MAA21848@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199904260952.CAA22290@mail.suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0966573048226838935==" --===============0966573048226838935== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy On 26 Apr 99, at 10:51, Andy Thomson wrote: > Now I have put Star office in /Office50, how do I get an Icon on the > desktop to start the soffice script from the /Office50/bin directory? >=20 In KDE right click your mouse and you'll see a drop down menu (like=20 MS Windows). Select "program" and then wait for the cog shaped icon=20 to appear on your desktop. Right click that icon and select=20 "properties". Then go for the tab that allows you to select the=20 directory where your star office start up script is. you can then=20 browse for the script. Click on OK. and that's it finished. Send me some mail if you still can't work it out ? Thanks Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 SuSE technical support at: http://home.freeuk.net/linux.help/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0966573048226838935==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Apr 26 11:51:28 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] booting into a minicom session? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:51:28 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990420101203.E2156@avatar.lsd.ornl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7840569116007419346==" --===============7840569116007419346== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, orry for the late reply :) On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 mgx(a)spruce.lsd.ornl.gov wrote: > i've got one pentium box, box A, with no cd/scsi/video/etc whose > connections to the world are either the network or the serial port. > the serial port is connected to another box, box B, and i can see box > A's console output on box B via a minicom session. these boxen are > running RH now and i want to do a suse install. when i boot box A off > the suse 6 boot diskette, the console never shows up on the minicom > session on box B. what am i doing wrong here ... Obviously our default boot kernels lack serial console suppport. I will Cc: our feedback team for further pondering about this subject... Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7840569116007419346==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Apr 26 12:06:53 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Bzip2 support (flag 'y') in Gnu tar in SuSE 6.1? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:06:53 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <371CE956.680F68C7@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5250807046188014446==" --===============5250807046188014446== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, hhv wrote: > > Flag for bzip is always `y' where you would use `x' for gzip: >=20 > 'x' is for 'extract' in general, whereas 'z' uses gzip as filter and > 'y', as you stated, uses bzip2 This is what I see in "tar --help" about this subject: Archive format selection: -V, --label=3DNAME create archive with volume name NAME PATTERN at list/extract time, a globbing PATTERN -o, --old-archive, --portability write a V7 format archive --posix write a POSIX conformant archive -I, --bzip2, --bunzip2 filter the archive through bzip2 -z, --gzip, --ungzip filter the archive through gzip -Z, --compress, --uncompress filter the archive through compress --use-compress-program=3DPROG filter through PROG (must accept -d) So, bzip should be supported via the "-I" - flag, not the "y"-Flag... Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5250807046188014446==-- From andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 26 12:43:23 1999 From: andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Samba and novell problem Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:43:23 +0100 Message-ID: <006101be8fe2$5f8fe800$1701a8c0@andy.mcr.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Samba and novell problem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6702563539398186865==" --===============6702563539398186865== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: Alejandro Navarro To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: 25 April 1999 01:02 Subject: [SuSE Linux] Samba and novell problem > > > > > >Hi >I am configuring a linux server and workstation for my company but i have 3 >problem > >1.- The Samba work fine at this time but i dont not where is the procedure >for configured the restriccions for the people. At this time the people see >all files and directorys and i need close the security. > Have a look at the smb.conf file in /etc. Also see the documentation in /usr/doc/packages/samba and the output from typing 'man smb.conf'. >2.- I am use the dos-emu and this work fine but i need a virtual disk more >big, at this time this is only 1.44 image and is very small for my network. Never used it - I have no idea. > >3.- The Dos-EMU not conect with the novell server ( 4.11) i am following all >instruccions and the conection is imposible ( IPX is up and the TCP/IP in >novell is UP ) Have you installed the 'marsnwe;' package in networking. I think you need this but, again, never used it so I am not sure. Regards andy > >Pls HEEEELLLLLLLPPP my tks > >excuseme for my English .. :-)) > >Alejandro Navarro >anavarro(a)cyberclub.net >Dpto de Sistemas >Ofinet Ltda >Barranquila Colombia > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6702563539398186865==-- From andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 26 12:50:28 1999 From: andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 with British Telecom ISDN2e Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:50:28 +0100 Message-ID: <009001be8fe3$5ccadf20$1701a8c0@andy.mcr.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 with British Telecom ISDN2e> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7127461903213137600==" --===============7127461903213137600== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are you plugging your Linux 6.0 box into an isdn2e wall-box system from BT. Also are you using a BT speedway card. If so I assume you are using ISDN for Linux, (i4l). I did this recently and I think I installed it as a fritz card from the list and it seemed to work OK. I connect using demon as they have fixed IP addresses and it saves all that complicated stuff about dynamic IP from your ISP. Rgds andy -----Original Message----- From: Richard To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: 25 April 1999 01:03 Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 with British Telecom ISDN2e Hello I think I've finally found a technical problem which no one can understand or sort out. I'm just about to plug an ISDN2e system into my Linux 6.0 box. I can't find anyone who can advise me about this. Apart from a few web sites that give vague advice for cards that are not available in the UK and the docs on the HD which are not written by someone from over here there is nothing. Can anyone give helpful advice ? I'm thinking that the following cards may be useful...... Eicon Diva II http://www.cambrdidge-isdn.com> Trust Communicator ISDN 128 PCI British Telecom Speedway ISDN PCI = http://www.foxdirect.com> As I say, the docs and man pages don't help at all. Thanks Richard Sheffield UK 0973 682181 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7127461903213137600==-- From Maarten.MPJ.Hoeven@utc.rabobank.com Mon Apr 26 13:13:01 1999 From: Maarten.MPJ.Hoeven@utc.rabobank.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.6 Kernel Compile Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:13:01 +0200 Message-ID: <"/GUID:F33E202BCFFBD211B17300805F8B25B2*"@MHS> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] 2.2.6 Kernel Compile> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8362821450744789678==" --===============8362821450744789678== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    I had a similar problem, while the kernel tried to boot (continuous scroll of=
     failing to load binfmt-464c).
    
    In my case I solved the problem by compiling the ELF-support module into the =
    kernel (i.e. to say 'Y' in the make xconfig, instead of 'M' for module). With=
     the kernel now capable of executing ELF, the kernel boots without  problem.
    
    I upgraded from Suse 6.0 (kernel 2.0.36) to kernel 2.2.6
    
    Hope this answers your question... Or, specify what module gives the problem.=
    ..
    
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    --===============8362821450744789678==-- From j.vermeulen@hot.A2000.nl Mon Apr 26 13:13:21 1999 From: j.vermeulen@hot.A2000.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] TEAC CD-C68E Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:13:21 +0200 Message-ID: <37246671.68757BF@hot.A2000.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2272938554227566584==" --===============2272938554227566584== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a TEAC CD-ROM Changer that I want to move from my Wintel box to a Linux system that I am in the process of assembling. I find nothing in the knowledge database -- would anybody know whether it can be made to work either in 6-drive move or in switching mode and how this could be achieved? The drive was marketed in 1997... JV -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2272938554227566584==-- From Stephan.Ockers@nl.abnamro.com Mon Apr 26 13:14:16 1999 From: Stephan.Ockers@nl.abnamro.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] DHCP on my Compaq NetInteligent 10/100 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:14:16 +0200 Message-ID: <072E0372466A80BA*/c=NL/admd=400net/prmd=abnamro/o=notes/s=Ockers/g=Stephan/@MHS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9090717739758396766==" --===============9090717739758396766== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have installed SuSE 6.0 with the Compaq Netinteligent 10/100 ethernet=20 card. When i boot the machine with DHCP enabled the card get's some quetions=20 about the IP address, the subnet mask en the default gateway. But all=20 that questions are given the reply that it are unknown commands?? I wonder if that are unknown commands for the card is use or that the=20 DHCP client with the SuSE 6.0 distribution is not good for the card?? greet Stephan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9090717739758396766==-- From snapek@yahoo.com Mon Apr 26 14:32:21 1999 From: snapek@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] VMware? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:32:21 -0700 Message-ID: <19990426143221.6434.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3582076072828353661==" --===============3582076072828353661== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone actually gotten a decent version of VMware to work? Personally, I tried it out after I got my new computer, and even on a PII 400 with 128meg DIMM(s) found that it ran incredibly slow (at least at first). I then attempted to use an ATAPI cdrom driver, and got a segmentation fault.... Was I going about this wrong, or is it just meant not to work properly (like anything else associated with MicroSlop?) Thanks, Keith Snape _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3582076072828353661==-- From alex@physical36.chem.ufl.edu Mon Apr 26 14:38:57 1999 From: alex@physical36.chem.ufl.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] question re. jaz disk Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:38:57 -0400 Message-ID: <199904261439.KAA09270@physical36.chem.ufl.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4422613002754622364==" --===============4422613002754622364== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear SuSE friends, Can someone tell me whether it is possible to mount a scsi jaz drive as an ext2 (or iso9660) filesystem? When I got my Linux PC about 1/2 year ago it was set up as an msdos filesystem (see fstab entry below) and never checked whether I could do better otherwise. The person who set things up for me told me that she wasn't able to mount the (internal) jaz drive under Linux ext2. /dev/sdb4 /mnt/jaz msdos noauto 0 0 Thanks for any pointers, Alex. --=20 Dr. Alexander Angerhofer Associate Professor of Chemistry Department of Chemistry The University of Florida Box 117200 Gainesville, FL 32611-7200 USA Tel.: (+1) 352 846 3281 alt.: (+1) 352 392 9489 lab : (+1) 352 846 3283 FAX : (+1) 352 392 0872 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4422613002754622364==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Mon Apr 26 14:55:22 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Wine - Microsoft Word 97 ? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:55:22 +0200 Message-ID: <37247E5A.11B824D7@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <372417FB.942D3ACF@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2999035691007592425==" --===============2999035691007592425== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joop Boonen wrote: >=20 > Dear Leonard, >=20 > Wine is a 'clone for windows 3.1'. This is a 16 bit version of Windows. > Office 97 is written for Windows 9x. This is a 32 bits version of > windows. By the way office 97 doesn't run on Windows 3.x. >=20 Wine claims to run 32bit stuff as well. I havn=C5=BDt got even 16 bit stuff running yet. ;-( I=C5=BDd like to play with it, but in my case it crashes on the simplest tasks. ;-( like to hear more of it if you=C5=BDre successful. Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2999035691007592425==-- From boyd@cs.unca.edu Mon Apr 26 15:09:25 1999 From: boyd@cs.unca.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] VMware? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:09:25 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990426143221.6434.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7973824477227419822==" --===============7973824477227419822== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Keith Snape wrote: >=20 > Has anyone actually gotten a decent version of VMware > to work? Personally, I tried it out after I got my new > computer, and even on a PII 400 with 128meg DIMM(s) > found that it ran incredibly slow (at least at first). > I then attempted to use an ATAPI cdrom driver, and > got a segmentation fault.... Was I going about this > wrong, or is it just meant not to work properly (like > anything else associated with MicroSlop?) >=20 > Thanks, > Keith Snape >=20 It worked well for me on a K6-300 with 64 MB of SDRAM. I have a SCSI CDROM which appeared as an IDE CDROM under the virtual machine. I have several, very knowledgeable, students who have also been using it successfully. I'm impressed. Mark -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7973824477227419822==-- From marc.a.abrams@intel.com Mon Apr 26 15:23:02 1999 From: marc.a.abrams@intel.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Can 95 read ext2 yet?? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:23:02 -0700 Message-ID: <7FD5C79AD680D211AC4100A0C96B501CF77C22@orsmsx49.jf.intel.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Can 95 read ext2 yet??> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8966093990882460606==" --===============8966093990882460606== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've tried all three. FSDEXT2 is OK. LREAD is nice, but the graphics are ugly. LINUXINDOS didn't work for me either. marc. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Easton [mailto:reaston(a)s= tny.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, April 24, 1999 7:09 AM To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Can 95 read ext2 yet?? I'll add that this program: http://www.netusa.com/pacmicro/lin= uxindos.htm> is supposed to allow read access to an ext2 partition in a DOS=20 box - but in my case it couldn't even recognize that any Linux=20 partitions existed, so it was a bust. Perhaps the linux partion=20 needs to be non-logical, I don't know. The others are probably=20 better. -Bob On 23 Apr 99, at 18:12, Avi Schwartz wrote: >=20 > Steve, >=20 > I know of two: >=20 > 1) FSDEXT2 - Supports only read mode. I have used this one.=20 > http://www.yipton.demon.co.uk/> > 2) LREAD - Claims to support read and write. Never had a chance to use > this one. http://www.it= .fht-esslingen.de/~zimmerma/lread.htm> >=20 > Avi >=20 > stevem12(a)mindspring.com wrote: > >=20 > > I was just wondering if the was anything out that would let 95/98 view a > > ext2 filesystem. Anyone? > >=20 > > Steve > >=20 > --=20 > Avi Schwartz Get a Life > avi(a)CFFtechnologies.com Get Linux > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this > text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at > http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and= the archive at > http://www.= suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8966093990882460606==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Mon Apr 26 15:44:07 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] VMware? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:44:07 +0200 Message-ID: <372489C7.D8DA6D03@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <19990426143221.6434.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4711229120751812472==" --===============4711229120751812472== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Keith, I'm using vmware at work on a PII 233 MHz with 64 Mbytes memory. It was also very slow when i didn't use the vmware tools and the changed xserver. When you use both it get quite fast. About 25 0f the speed op only windows. I think it's quite good as there are quite debugging items in the software. I will be a bit faster when it's speed optimized. THis is what vmware told me. It' won't be a lot faster but a bit it will.=20 To me it's very useful for average applications like editing and exchange. By the way i don't choose for exchange. But i have to as it is the company standard. I hope it's helpful. Regards, Joop Boonen. Keith Snape wrote: >=20 > Has anyone actually gotten a decent version of VMware > to work? Personally, I tried it out after I got my new > computer, and even on a PII 400 with 128meg DIMM(s) > found that it ran incredibly slow (at least at first). > I then attempted to use an ATAPI cdrom driver, and > got a segmentation fault.... Was I going about this > wrong, or is it just meant not to work properly (like > anything else associated with MicroSlop?) >=20 > Thanks, > Keith Snape >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4711229120751812472==-- From mezger@surfree.com Mon Apr 26 16:05:19 1999 From: mezger@surfree.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] KDE icons keep moving Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:05:19 -0400 Message-ID: <99042612181300.05608@rimez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0841237404496022366==" --===============0841237404496022366== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a rather simple question. How do you lock the icons into position on the KDE panel? I use the panel on the right side of the screen and it seems that gravity moves the icons everytime I restart KDE. What a pain. I've searched for info on this but it seems such a general question that I can not find the answer. Please feel free to flame me for asking such a stupid question ;-) thanks, rimez -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0841237404496022366==-- From rthompson@motleypc.com Mon Apr 26 16:20:35 1999 From: rthompson@motleypc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Wine - Microsoft Word 97 ? Hi Joop & yes Wine does Word-badly...? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:20:35 -0700 Message-ID: <000201be9000$b68e6e60$30e7d8cd@rlt450> In-Reply-To: <3724314F.A2E101E0@ihug.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7446809795866064926==" --===============7446809795866064926== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The recent builds of WINE will run 32-bit software including Word97 and DirectX games. Rick Thompson -----Original Message----- From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Geortgilakis Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 2:27 AM To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: [SuSE Linux] Wine - Microsoft Word 97 ? Hi Joop & yes Wine does Word-badly...? Hi Guys & happy geeking to all. Now Joop wrote the folling to Leonard Ong "Wine is a 'clone for windows 3.1'. This is a 16 bit version of Windows. Office 97 is written for Windows 9x. This is a 32 bits version of windows. By the way office 97 doesn't run on Windows 3.x. There are two possibilities. You can use vmware for http= ://www.vmware.com/> or you use office 4.2." Regards, Joop Boonen. Leonard Ong wrote: > > Email dalam bahasa Indonesia di bagian bawah :) > > Hello, > I have configured /etc/wine.etc ( it yielded not error, i.e. wine does > not > complain ). But I can not run winword.exe with it. Is anyone out > there can > do this ? I'm using 2.2.6, 64 mb ram, and SuSE 6.0 > > ------------ > > Hello, > Ada yang bisa menjalankan winword.exe ( 97 ) di linux dengan wine ? > > Thanks > > Regards, > Leonard Ong > Leonard Advanced Research,Inc Here is a cut & paste from Linuxberg: Remeber Wine is still Beta, so it might not fly so well.... Good luck. :-) Wine Version: Stable 990328 Revision Date: March 28, 1999 Byte Size: 3,168,647 License: BSD Home Page: <= A HREF=3D"http://www.winehq.com/http://www.winehq.com/> Binaries: RPM, libc5 Description: Wine is an implementation of the Windows 3.x and Win32 APIs on top of X and Unix. Think of Wine as a Windows compatibility layer. Wine provides both a development toolkit (Winelib) for porting Windows sources to Unix and a program loader, allowing unmodified Windows 3.1/95/NT binaries to run under Intel Unixes. Wine works on most popular Intel Unixes, including Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris. Wine does not require Microsoft Windows, as it is a completely alternative implementation consisting of 100% Microsoft Free code, but it can optionally use native system DLLs if they are available. Wine comes with complete sources, documentation and examples and is freely redistributable. Greek Geek. :-) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/> and t= he archive at http://www.s= use.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7446809795866064926==-- From jboonen@worldonline.nl Mon Apr 26 16:39:07 1999 From: jboonen@worldonline.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Xosview Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:39:07 +0200 Message-ID: <372496AB.21ACDBB@worldonline.nl> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Xosview> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5317846960298484279==" --===============5317846960298484279== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, You should remember a few things. Like you have to install gpp (=3D c++) and you have to do ./configure after this make after this make install . This all needs to be done as root. I hope it's helpful. Regards, Joop Boonen. I have also posted the reply in the suse mailing list as it might also be helpful for other people. jep(a)jephill.com wrote: >=20 > ** Reply to note from Joop Boonen Mon, 26 Apr > 1999 09:43:34 +0200 > > When you are using kernel 2.2.x you need to upgrade xosview as it uses > > different register sizes for kernel 2.2.x than 2.0.x. You can download the > > xosview source at: http= ://lore.ece.utexas.edu/~bgrayson/xosview.html> i > > got there via http:\\www.linuxberg.com. > > > > As soon as you have upgrade it'll work fine. >=20 > Well, that's not my experience. As of 2 wks ago, the latest xosview would > not compile (I had just compiled the latest kernel, so I knew the compiler > was sorking fine) and the older one supplied with SuSE 6.0 would not run. >=20 > Ah, the joys of linux. It's gonna be great, if only they could get it righ= t. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5317846960298484279==-- From roed@hem.utfors.se Mon Apr 26 17:10:50 1999 From: roed@hem.utfors.se To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] CD-Rom support ? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:10:50 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1230828764943847864==" --===============1230828764943847864== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does 6.1 still have support for my Mitsumi LU005S ? - * Linux - ett stabilare s=C3=A4tt att leva * - - * Linux - a more stabile way to live * - -- Mvh Rolf Edlund Tel:070-3049194 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1230828764943847864==-- From k01164@ko.sdu.dk Mon Apr 26 17:59:09 1999 From: k01164@ko.sdu.dk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux dial out problem Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:59:09 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Linux dial out problem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0689148836069878557==" --===============0689148836069878557== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You need the program diald, which is included in SuSE 6.0. Try searching the list archive for more information, since you have to set a few options in order to make diald _not_ dial out at each samba operation. --=20 Regards Med venlig hilsen Ole Kofoed Hansen mailto:k01164(a)ko.sdu.dk ICQ-UIN: 25773325 On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Sean Shannon wrote: >=20 > I am currently running SuSE 6.0 as the server. I have 3 Windows based > machines trying to connect to the internet via the linux box. My > question is, how would I go about forcing linux to dial-out without > having to telnet into it? >=20 > Preferably something easy for the 98/NT box's, because my family isn't > to computer literate. >=20 >=20 > Thank you >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0689148836069878557==-- From ttwkam@yahoo.com Mon Apr 26 19:24:58 1999 From: ttwkam@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] tar problems Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:24:58 -0700 Message-ID: <19990426192458.28234.rocketmail@web604.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] tar problems> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0723072858129199646==" --===============0723072858129199646== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What ghost files are you referring to? I've never noticed them when I do my tar. --- Kim Wing Fung wrote: > Hello > > Can some one please help. Why is it that > the tar program sonetimes generates "ghost files" > which can be seen, but it's permissions can never be > changed not even as root. These files can never be > removed and have some obscure name made up of what > seems like random characters. How can i stop these > files from appearing and how do i get rid of those > files which have appeared on my computer? > > Kim Wing Fung >
    Hello
    Can some one please help. Why is it that the tar program sonetimes generates "ghost files" which can be seen, but it's permissions can never be changed not even as root. These files can never be removed and have some obscure name made up of what seems like random characters. How can i stop these files from appearing and how do i get rid of those files which have appeared on my computer?
    Kim Wing Fung
    === Regards, Ted _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html --===============0723072858129199646==-- From rthompson@motleypc.com Mon Apr 26 19:28:21 1999 From: rthompson@motleypc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: re: [SuSE Linux] VMware? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:28:21 -0800 Message-ID: <199904261526.LAA28582@fh106.infi.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] VMware?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6709523040629771646==" --===============6709523040629771646== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There was a new version released this weekend. It is significantly faster on= my setup than the previous version (which ran with no problems). I've got W= indows 98 installed in one vm and Debian installed in another...all work perf= ectly. I'm downloading OpenLinux 2.2 to install in a vm tonite. VMware is t= he best testing environment I've ever used (I especially like the fact that y= ou not write any changes to the "disk" when you close a session). The main t= hing you MUST do is use the vmware-tools and the modified xserver to get dece= nt performance. Rick Thompson > ** Original Subject: [SuSE Linux] VMware? > ** Original Sender: Keith Snape > ** Original Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:32:21 -0700 (PDT) > ** Original Message follows...=20 > > Has anyone actually gotten a decent version of VMware > to work? Personally, I tried it out after I got my new > computer, and even on a PII 400 with 128meg DIMM(s) > found that it ran incredibly slow (at least at first). > I then attempted to use an ATAPI cdrom driver, and > got a segmentation fault.... Was I going about this > wrong, or is it just meant not to work properly (like > anything else associated with MicroSlop?) >=20 > Thanks, > Keith Snape >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at
    http://mail.yahoo.com> >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** >=20 ************************************************ Rick Thompson Motley + Associates, P.C. ************************************************ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6709523040629771646==-- From hlarons@ComCAT.COM Mon Apr 26 19:31:58 1999 From: hlarons@ComCAT.COM To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Setting Margins in a2ps Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:31:58 -0400 Message-ID: <19990426153158.A310@BeagleDog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9129962493077846530==" --===============9129962493077846530== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm using the gs and apsfilter that come with SuSE 5.2. Printing of=20 ASCII files via apsfilter is fine, except that the margins are not=20 quite right; i.e., the left margin is ca 1 inch, and the right is about=20 1/3 inch. The printer, an HP 520 inkjet, gives proper margins when printing a gs=20 margin test file--/usr/share/ghostscript/4.03/doc/margins-Letter.ps This gives 1 inch left, right, top, bottom. The problem is thus=20 in the a2ps app, and I can't find any clue to setting margins in 'man=20 a2ps'. Anyone know whether a2ps allows margin settings? Howard Arons --=20 Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- Upgraded to kernel 2.0.36 Communications by Mutt 0.93.2i -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9129962493077846530==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Mon Apr 26 19:38:56 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Unreal Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:38:56 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1410835488949983771==" --===============1410835488949983771== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I seem to recall there was some mention not too long ago on different Linux sites in respect to the porting of this game to Linux. I looked the other day and can't seem to find anything. Is anyone following this project or does anyone know if it is still being continued?=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1410835488949983771==-- From raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu Mon Apr 26 19:59:17 1999 From: raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Good News!! Jan is making suse 6 rpms again Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:59:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3724C595.1890BA16@neuronet.pitt.edu> In-Reply-To: <19990425163029.A11784@basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3755059355367423854==" --===============3755059355367423854== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Perry wrote: >=20 > I just found that Jan is making suse 6 rpms again and has a new batch > at www.gnome.org/suse/gnome.html. This means that if you want to use > gnome and have installed his packages earlier you do not have to pull > all the stuff off and reinstall. >=20 > I like choice and this is choice!! Use them with caution, though. Some of those RPMs replace packages that may be needed by other applications.=20 --=20 Rafael Herrera Laboratory for Computational Neuroscience University of Pittsburgh http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~raffo> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3755059355367423854==-- From alex@daniloff.com Mon Apr 26 20:02:48 1999 From: alex@daniloff.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Realize the true potential of Linux Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:02:48 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <372510DA.FFA10921@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9094810987005908124==" --===============9094810987005908124== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can only be hoping that sometimes in the next 6.x version SuSE will achieve the same easy to install featured distro as Caldera does.=20 In this case more people and businesses can say good buy to Windoze forever. = We must understand that the way that any OS should be designed is install and run without system tuning, hair pulling, infinite tweaking and crying for help on the mailing lists. The defenders of the command line interface and a blank screen will be disagreed but system, users, printers, network and everything administration must be done in GUI, otherwise it won't work in business world.=20 There is no way to spend a weeks even hours for editing most of configuration files manually when your whole business depends on Linux. Just install and go! > >http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-04/lw-04-p= enguin4.html?04-24> >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9094810987005908124==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Apr 26 20:16:53 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: shortcut keys in nedit ...again Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:16:53 +0200 Message-ID: <19990426221653.B1419@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <372419BA.F719EFC7@asml.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0759493608097620939==" --===============0759493608097620939== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 09:46 +0200, Marcel Donker wrote: > There was a message on this mailing-list a while ago (two or three weeks > or so) about the use of shortcut keys in de nedit editor. At the time I > didn't find it important but,.... now I have the same question. How do I > set these shortcut keys active (i.e. ctr-Q for quit, crt-F for find > etc.)? Delete /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/NEdit. Ciao, Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0759493608097620939==-- From jperser@airmail.net Mon Apr 26 20:18:07 1999 From: jperser@airmail.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SLE] clarification re: [SLE] Booting NT with a rescue floppy? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:18:07 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7973184802133789691==" --===============7973184802133789691== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Steve Pauly wrote: > Greetings, >=20 > I appreciate everyones responses to this question. I will have to spend > some time on the NT focused security sites to understand how NT works. > Maybe installing an NT partition might be a good idea. You know, just to > keep up with the Joneses.=20 >=20 > I use Win95 at work, and are surrounded by NT users. I have been using > WinXX for many years, though I am sure I know linux better than I do Win, > now. I had told a NT friend how I (dare I admit it?) "forgotten" my root > password and had to bootup and change a shadow file to get back in. He > kinda just "looked" at me. I did not pursue it with him, so I decided to > turn to this group to find out how an NT box is re-entered after losing > its "root" password.=20 I use NT at work everyday and primarily do my own system administration. Although I've never tried to break into a machine after forgetting the root password, it probably can be done if you have another OS you can boot into and the NT operating system is installed on a FAT partition. If it's installed on NTFS I think it is probably much harder. There are some utilities that supposedly allow you read NTFS from Win98 but I don't know about writing. I don't know of any way (although it may exist) to actually boot up into NT from a floppy where you have access to your computer in the same manner you do when you actually login. You can boot setup floppies and do a recover on the system if you have an Emergency Repair Disk. This has the ability to rewrite much of the contents of the registry and I think may allow you to reset the user and security values that have been stored (although I've never tried this). Someone earlier had given some websites where some hacks may exist but I don't remember what they were. Maybe someone who knows alot more about it will respond. [snip] --=20 To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com = =20 Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ --===============7973184802133789691==-- From sjaniska@inet.hr Mon Apr 26 20:19:24 1999 From: sjaniska@inet.hr To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] psnup & psbook problem Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:19:24 -0100 Message-ID: <199904261720.TAA30192@bach.iskon.hr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5065229792565403516==" --===============5065229792565403516== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I'm putting one smaller book together using Lyx (I've just discovered it and I'm so happy) on SuSE 6.0 I'd like to print 2 portrait A5 pages from the book on 1 landscape A4 page. I've got the info to use psnup for that purpose, but I'm not getting desired result. Anybody has some experience with it? What about psbook to get the whole book ready to put in a cover? Sasa -------------------------------------------- Sasa Janiska Zagreb, Croatia E-mail: sjaniska(a)inet.hr -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5065229792565403516==-- From bfootdav@bellsouth.net Mon Apr 26 20:28:56 1999 From: bfootdav@bellsouth.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Unreal Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:28:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3724CC88.936EAC68@bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3897299006728299962==" --===============3897299006728299962== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Johnson wrote: >=20 > I seem to recall there was some mention not too long ago on different > Linux sites in respect to the porting of this game to Linux. I looked the > other day and can't seem to find anything. Is anyone following this > project or does anyone know if it is still being continued? >=20 Coincident with the thread about wine, I think some people got Unreal to work via wine. Perhaps a search of Freshmeat or definitely /. as I remember reading it there. Dave -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3897299006728299962==-- From tschlemmer@sequeltech.com Mon Apr 26 20:39:14 1999 From: tschlemmer@sequeltech.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux dial out problem Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:39:14 -0700 Message-ID: <3724CEF2.77B8E8EC@sequeltech.com> In-Reply-To: <19990426085230.19842.rocketmail@ web605.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4923827504678209684==" --===============4923827504678209684== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a SuSE 6.0 server on my home network and it dials out automatically when someone attempts to route packets outside of the network. I use diald to automatically dial the modem and have some firewall rules that handle routing packets for the network. I have setup the Win95 boxes to use our ISP's nameservers and to use the Linux server as their gateway. With this setup, anytime someone on the network brings up a web browser or email client the modem dials out automatically. I'm not sure if the kind of setup I have can be done automatically through YaST or not. I've done all of this setup by hand with configuration files for diald, and ipfwadm. If you know your way around Linux and don't mind configuring some stuff by hand, I can forward you all of my config files that I use for diald and the ipfwadm rules my server uses. Sean Shannon wrote: >=20 > I am currently running SuSE 6.0 as the server. I have 3 Windows based > machines trying to connect to the internet via the linux box. My > question is, how would I go about forcing linux to dial-out without > having to telnet into it? >=20 > Preferably something easy for the 98/NT box's, because my family isn't > to computer literate. >=20 > Thank you >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Tony --=20 Tony Schlemmer Sequel Technology Corp. mailto:tschlemmer(a)sequeltech= .com http://www.sequeltech.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4923827504678209684==-- From paulf@quillandmouse.com Mon Apr 26 22:06:17 1999 From: paulf@quillandmouse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Setting Margins in a2ps Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:06:17 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990426153158.A310@BeagleDog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6348514177509341680==" --===============6348514177509341680== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Howard Arons wrote: >=20 > I'm using the gs and apsfilter that come with SuSE 5.2. Printing of=20 > ASCII files via apsfilter is fine, except that the margins are not=20 > quite right; i.e., the left margin is ca 1 inch, and the right is about=20 > 1/3 inch. >=20 > The printer, an HP 520 inkjet, gives proper margins when printing a gs=20 > margin test file--/usr/share/ghostscript/4.03/doc/margins-Letter.ps > This gives 1 inch left, right, top, bottom. The problem is thus=20 > in the a2ps app, and I can't find any clue to setting margins in 'man=20 > a2ps'. >=20 > Anyone know whether a2ps allows margin settings? >=20 Check the file /var/lib/apsfilter/filter/ascii . I can't tell you *precisely* where to make the change, as I'm not *that* familiar with all of it. But you can probably check out the man a2ps for more details. Much of the ascii file is rather self-explanatory. Paul Foster -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6348514177509341680==-- From rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 26 23:08:58 1999 From: rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux dial out problem Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:08:58 +0100 Message-ID: <15f607f948.rachel@enlarion.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3724CEF2.77B8E8EC@sequeltech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5268625906502130956==" --===============5268625906502130956== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In message <3724CEF2.77B8E8EC(a)sequeltech.com> Tony Schlemmer wrote: >=20 > I have a SuSE 6.0 server on my home network and it dials out > automatically when someone attempts to route packets outside of the > network. I use diald to automatically dial the modem and have some > firewall rules that handle routing packets for the network. I have setup > the Win95 boxes to use our ISP's nameservers and to use the Linux server > as their gateway. With this setup, anytime someone on the network brings > up a web browser or email client the modem dials out automatically. >=20 > I'm not sure if the kind of setup I have can be done automatically > through YaST or not. Yes, it can. Mostly. Just set up PPP networking with demand dialling on, and set masquerading and forwarding to start in the configuration file. there may have been some wrinkles (I'm not the one who sorted them out) but I can supply our files if you like. The additional thing we did was to set up our own local domain using BIND-8 (because that's what we had the How-to for) and since we removed the stupid typo in our reverse-DNS zone (in-arpa-addr anyone?) it's been working perfectly. The DNS setup - and particularly the reverse DNS setup - prevents many unwanted dialups when eg: telnetting from one machine to another. The last thing we did of course was to use Squid for web & FTP proxying. In fact you can use YAST to set all attempted through-connections to port 80 to, say localhost:3128 so everyone on the network goes through the proxy whether they want to or not. :-> --=20 Rachel http://www.enlarion.demon.co.uk/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5268625906502130956==-- From ttwkam@yahoo.com Mon Apr 26 23:31:42 1999 From: ttwkam@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Wine - Microsoft Word 97 ? Hi Joop & yes Wine does Word-badly...? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:31:42 -0700 Message-ID: <19990426233142.28891.rocketmail@web604.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Wine - Microsoft Word 97 ? Hi Joop & yes Wine does Word-badly...?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1736015134107477642==" --===============1736015134107477642== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How reliable is Wine running 32-bit apps? Is it worth doing or just dual boot Windows instead? Thx. --- Rick Thompson wrote: >=20 > The recent builds of WINE will run 32-bit software > including Word97 and > DirectX games. > Rick Thompson >=20 =3D=3D=3D Regards, Ted _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1736015134107477642==-- From mperry@basin.com Mon Apr 26 23:33:34 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] trouble with suse gnome rpms Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:33:34 -0700 Message-ID: <19990426163334.A10114@basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8174272272814329101==" --===============8174272272814329101== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable gnomecc: error in loading shared libraries /opt/gnome/lib/libgnomeui.so.32: undefined symbol: gtk_item_factory_add_foreign Can you help with this? I loaded all the rpms for suse's gnome stuff and am getting the above. I have gnome-libs installed btw. --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com -------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8174272272814329101==-- From pmaries@ibm.net Mon Apr 26 23:56:10 1999 From: pmaries@ibm.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] How to use IP Masquerading? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:56:10 +0200 Message-ID: <3724FD1A.5718E8BC@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0428345364636201268==" --===============0428345364636201268== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am testing SuSE 6.0 after many years with RedHat, so far it seems to be a very good distribution; however I have a problem: I need to use IP Masquerading but the "firewall" rpm is documented in German and as far as my German goes it doesn't seem to say much about the subject.=20 Has anybody installed this option and could give me some ideas? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0428345364636201268==-- From jpenn@planetdirect.com Tue Apr 27 01:07:01 1999 From: jpenn@planetdirect.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] XBanshee Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:07:01 -0700 Message-ID: <19990427010701.24378.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8026217472126754776==" --===============8026217472126754776== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone here had *direct* experience with the Banshee X Server that's po= sted at SuSE's update site? Perhaps you could direct me to someone who has... I'm having some real problems with my frame buffer device (maybe it's just = because I'm an idiot), and there are other factors. One problem is that every time I= go back into Windows, it takes two or three reboots for Win to get my video = setup right (starts in VGA, I remove the graphics adapter; starts in svga, I load the Ban= shee driver; in order to complete the new hardware settings, must reboot; and so o= n and so forth). Maybe if I get my XServer running, I can use Wine or VMWare and junk my Win= dows installation altogether. I grow tired of all of this dual-boot nonsense, but= I don't have much choice. Linux, sadly, is still considered a novelty in the end use= r realm. Yes, it's a good platform, yes, there are all sorts of databases and what not= being ported/released to/for Linux, and yes, installation is becoming simpler for t= he end user. The problem remains that I still need Windows and DirectX 5 to play Mo= toRacer and Need for Speed III ;). Enough ramblings for one message. Perhaps you could pass this little comme= ntary to all of the budding game developers that you know, and we'll get ahead. Thanks in advance, -=3D|JP|=3D- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8026217472126754776==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 27 01:20:26 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Realize the true potential of Linux Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:20:26 -0400 Message-ID: <372510DA.FFA10921@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6461411400791854575==" --===============6461411400791854575== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-04/lw-04-pe= nguin4.html?04-24> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6461411400791854575==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 27 01:21:39 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] RedHat.com: Vote for your usage of Linux. Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:21:39 -0400 Message-ID: <37251123.79F8AA35@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5268263447678313414==" --===============5268263447678313414== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http= ://www.redhat.com/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5268263447678313414==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Tue Apr 27 01:22:54 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] The Last 10 Minutes - NC World - June 1998 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:22:54 -0400 Message-ID: <3725116E.959C58CD@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5464944684968186287==" --===============5464944684968186287== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.ncworldmag.com/ncworld/ncw-06-1998/ncw-06-lastten.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5464944684968186287==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Tue Apr 27 01:59:57 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] problem compiling applications - libs in wrong place? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 03:59:57 +0200 Message-ID: <37251A1D.18A33831@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <37240603.45F73A97@bee.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3700825847132505210==" --===============3700825847132505210== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roy Brewer wrote: >=20 > This appears to be my problem: the makefile specifies g++ (CC=3Dc++) for the > complier, which is not the same as gcc. I guess I'm only set up to use gcc = in > terms of the libraries. When I edited the Makefile (CC =3D gcc), the program > compiled, although it complained with a bunch of warnings. >=20 > I don't know enough about the two compilers to know if the flags are the sa= me > between the two. All I know is that I was able to compile kernel 2.2.5 with > the included makefiles (at least I think the kernel is OK). Can I have both > compilers set up at the same time? If not, which one should I use? I'm compiling everything myself, at least everything of some importance. And I try hard not to ruin my development environment (obviously with success until now.). Some things I alsways do: 1. Before installing newly compiled stuff, especially libraries, I remove (backup) the old ones _completely_, that is including haeder files, manpages, etc. 2. Most packages I configure with --prefix=3D/usr. Exceptions are the gnome stuff, apache, kde (/opt/*), samba and a few others. 3. I always use egcs. Although I installed gcc too, I've never used it. I used SuSE 6.1 only to update glibc & Co. and egcs. The other stuff was already newer on my system. 4. If something goes wrong I rely more on the relevant mailinglists than on temporary solutions like changing Makefile variables. 5. I also leave the compiler in peace as I (at least currently)don't=20 understand enough of this to fiddle with compiler switches. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3700825847132505210==-- From h.vossieck@ndh.net Tue Apr 27 02:02:27 1999 From: h.vossieck@ndh.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.6 Kernel Compile Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 04:02:27 +0200 Message-ID: <37251AB3.FA82C7A4@ndh.net> In-Reply-To: <199904261105.MAA19241@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0046468608926668461==" --===============0046468608926668461== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard wrote: >=20 > Hello > After successfully compiling a 2.2.6 kernel I have now > tried to compile the same kernel with modules. Sorry, but everybody, who conpiles a kernel with modules deserves what he gets. Although modutils 2.1.85 is pretty old, you shouldn't have had such problems. The fact that you had, indicates, that you didn't act carefully enough. Even if you can compile many things as modules, you shouldn't do so with very basic drivers. My advice is to only=20 use modules for things you don't use that frequently. Simply remember, the more modules, the more problems. Most curiously SuSE 6.1. too seems to contain modutils 2.1.85. If you are able to compile modutils yourself you should get the latest version 2.2.2-pre6 from http://www.pi.se/blox/moduti= ls/> If not, tell me. I can send you precompiled binaries which you could test. Henning --=20 H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> -- Um aus der Liste ausgetragen zu werden, eine Mail an majordomo(a)suse.com schicken, mit dem Text: unsubscribe suse-linux -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0046468608926668461==-- From stevep@bash.linux-shell.net Tue Apr 27 02:54:08 1999 From: stevep@bash.linux-shell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Function of System.map Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:54:08 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0240107827263719047==" --===============0240107827263719047== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hanspeter wondered if the the placement of System.map in /boot was a 2.2.x kernel issue. I don't know, but man lilo.conf says you can specify where the map file is located in lilo.conf, for example, by: image =3D /boot/vmlinuz root =3D /dev/hda4 label =3D linux map =3D /boot/map_place/System.map The default location is /boot/System.map, though you can specify an alternative location. Someone also pointed out that the function of the .map file is (only)to aid kernel crash diagnosis. Pls correct me if wrong. HTH teve. ------------------------------------ Steve Pauly (281) 496-8041 Global Marine Drilling Co. stevep(a)linux-shell.net steve.pauly(a)glm.com gmdcman(a)mindspring.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0240107827263719047==-- From royb@bee.net Tue Apr 27 03:09:52 1999 From: royb@bee.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] problem compiling applications - libs in wrong place? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:09:52 -0400 Message-ID: <37252A80.A633BA1@bee.net> In-Reply-To: <37251A1D.18A33831@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4089165722641933994==" --===============4089165722641933994== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for all your help. I just went back to my CDROMS and loaded up th ecgs compiler. Now, things work fine (I also had to get a few more libs to compile= some KDE stuff). As long as the makefile knows to use gcc instead of g++ for the kernel, then I should be okay - Roy hhv wrote: > Roy Brewer wrote: > > > > This appears to be my problem: the makefile specifies g++ (CC=3Dc++) for = the > > complier, which is not the same as gcc. I guess I'm only set up to use gc= c in > > terms of the libraries. When I edited the Makefile (CC =3D gcc), the prog= ram > > compiled, although it complained with a bunch of warnings. > > > > I don't know enough about the two compilers to know if the flags are the = same > > between the two. All I know is that I was able to compile kernel 2.2.5 wi= th > > the included makefiles (at least I think the kernel is OK). Can I have bo= th > > compilers set up at the same time? If not, which one should I use? > > I'm compiling everything myself, at least everything of some importance. > And I try hard not to ruin my development environment (obviously with > success until now.). Some things I alsways do: > > 1. Before installing newly compiled stuff, especially libraries, I > remove (backup) the old ones _completely_, that is including > haeder files, manpages, etc. > > 2. Most packages I configure with --prefix=3D/usr. Exceptions are > the gnome stuff, apache, kde (/opt/*), samba and a few others. > > 3. I always use egcs. Although I installed gcc too, I've never used it. > I used SuSE 6.1 only to update glibc & Co. and egcs. The other stuff > was already newer on my system. > > 4. If something goes wrong I rely more on the relevant mailinglists > than on temporary solutions like changing Makefile variables. > > 5. I also leave the compiler in peace as I (at least currently)don't > understand enough of this to fiddle with compiler switches. > > Henning > > -- > H. Henning Vossieck - hhv(a)hhv.de - http://www.hhv.de/> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4089165722641933994==-- From mperry@basin.com Tue Apr 27 05:07:51 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] question re. jaz disk Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:07:51 -0700 Message-ID: <19990426220751.A16041@basin.com> In-Reply-To: <199904261439.KAA09270@physical36.chem.ufl.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0399792484828626462==" --===============0399792484828626462== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting alex(a)physical36.chem.ufl.edu on Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 10:38:57AM -04= 00: >=20 > Dear SuSE friends, >=20 > Can someone tell me whether it is possible to mount a scsi jaz drive as > an ext2 (or iso9660) filesystem? When I got my Linux PC about 1/2 year > ago it was set up as an msdos filesystem (see fstab entry below) and > never checked whether I could do better otherwise. The person who set > things up for me told me that she wasn't able to mount the (internal) > jaz drive under Linux ext2. >=20 > /dev/sdb4 /mnt/jaz msdos noauto 0 0 >=20 > Thanks for any pointers, Alex. >=20 > --=20 Hi- I have a internal jaz drive mounted as ext2 with no problems My fstab for this drive looks like: /dev/sda1 /jaz ext2 rw,noauto,user 0 0 As you can see, when one formats the dos partition away on a jaz drive it gets a 1 number instead of 4. This provides me the gig drive to back up stuff, save rpms, etc. Works great here. I just formatted the file system as normal using the fdisk, mkfs (whatever?), and then changed my fstab to reflect the new place. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0399792484828626462==-- From crow@istar.ca Tue Apr 27 05:09:39 1999 From: crow@istar.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE please include ppp as module by default! Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:09:39 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37255017.15006D0A@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5724349191993621448==" --===============5724349191993621448== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, star rubies wrote: >=20 > Hello all, >=20 > This is just my opinion, I had to recompile my kernel under SuSE 6 to > include ppp support as a module. I actually think this in the end was a > good thing, the making of the kernel went really smoothly and I felt > like I had actually learned more about Linux, which is all good.=20 > However, I do think it's a daunting task, and especialy if you've onl;y > ever used windows, well its kind of hardcore. I really think that ppp > should be a loadable module by DEFAULT in the SuSE package. I think it > would save some time and make the experience easier and nicer for > newcomers, and well what harm could it do? At most, someone might > rebuild the kernel excluding ppp as a module but I think that the > benefit for newcomers would be worth it. I really think SuSE should be > ppp ready put of the box. > Anyways, thats just my opinion, feedback appreciated and keep up the > good work SuSE.=20 I agree with you. I went through a similar task of getting ppp to work with suse. Being fairly new to linux myself, I found it a rather pleasant challenge (pleasant when i finally go the thing to work). Compiling the kernel was only about a quarter of my struggle with it. Getting connected to my isp was the other three quarters. Once I figured it out though, it seemed amazingly easy...thank god for nice thick UNIX/LINUX manuals =3D) Karl M. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5724349191993621448==-- From mcdo148@ibm.net Tue Apr 27 05:50:15 1999 From: mcdo148@ibm.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE please include ppp as module by default! Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:50:15 -0500 Message-ID: <37255017.15006D0A@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1049188903675519617==" --===============1049188903675519617== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, This is just my opinion, I had to recompile my kernel under SuSE 6 to include ppp support as a module. I actually think this in the end was a good thing, the making of the kernel went really smoothly and I felt like I had actually learned more about Linux, which is all good.=20 However, I do think it's a daunting task, and especialy if you've onl= ;y ever used windows, well its kind of hardcore. I really think that ppp should be a loadable module by DEFAULT in the SuSE package. I think it would save some time and make the experience easier and nicer for newcomers, and well what harm could it do? At most, someone might rebuild the kernel excluding ppp as a module but I think that the benefit for newcomers would be worth it. I really think SuSE should be ppp ready put of the box. Anyways, thats just my opinion, feedback appreciated and keep up the good work SuSE.=20 Cheers everyone, Dom -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1049188903675519617==-- From stevep@bash.linux-shell.net Tue Apr 27 06:05:21 1999 From: stevep@bash.linux-shell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Realize the true potential of Linux Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:05:21 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2624999599496061105==" --===============2624999599496061105== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alexander wrote: >I can only be hoping that sometimes in the next 6.x version SuSE will >achieve the same easy to install featured distro as Caldera does. It has been a while since I installed Caldera,and I agree they _might_ have a slight edge on SuSE in install ease, at least for first time installers. However, to me it is a minimal advantage for the experienced. =20 >In this case more people and businesses can say good buy to Windoze >forever. Didn't Linus say Linux would achieve world domination "sometime next year"? :-)=20 >We must understand that the way that any OS should be designed is install >and run without system tuning, hair pulling, infinite tweaking and crying Linux certainly has room for improvement in these areas, but I still see the need to tweak things for years to come. Even HAL had to be tweaked.=20 >for help on the mailing lists. The defenders of the command line >interface Usenet and mailing lists are an incredible resource, especially compared to the normally dismal support you get from the majors. (MS, Sybase, etc.) >and a blank screen will be disagreed but system, users, printers, network >and everything administration must be done in GUI, otherwise it won't >work >in business world. In a world dominated by MS, this is true. But paradigms shift, and maybe more MS assimilated techs and sophisticated users will come to appreciate the command line and the extremely rich command heritage UNIX offers.=20 Also, gui's in themselves are worthless without an appropriate application. A graphical artist would be unhappy in vi or emacs, and I would assume a admin would find editing /etc/lilo.conf tough in the gimp. My point is to use the right tool for the right job. GUI <> silver_bullet I, for one, am sick of MS's monolithic monsters like Access or Excel. I like the UNIX idea of small fast single purpose tools. >There is no way to spend a weeks even hours for editing most of >configuration files manually when your whole business depends on Linux. >Just install and go!=20 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Pleeeeeez!=20 Even MS does not provide anything that is "Just install and go". Maybe "install and go home and cry!" Editing configuration files is one area that gui's are weakest. Give me a console and vi anyday over MS style dialog boxes.=20 In closing, I agree that things like Kde and gnome are necessary to attract a wider audience, however, don't lose sight of Linux's traditional strengths.=20 It is pretty obvious that X is relatively unstable, so I hope that as more GUI apps emerge, that Linux will not become regarded as unstable, as Win is.=20 Later. ------------------------------------ Steve Pauly (281) 496-8041 Global Marine Drilling Co. stevep(a)linux-shell.net steve.pauly(a)glm.com gmdcman(a)mindspring.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2624999599496061105==-- From bobbyg@ihug.co.nz Tue Apr 27 06:51:23 1999 From: bobbyg@ihug.co.nz To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Call To Power -- Linux rocks man........... ;-) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:51:23 +1200 Message-ID: <37255E6A.A60DBF27@ihug.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8777014692235741312==" --===============8777014692235741312== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where to Buy Civilization: Call to Power for Linux Apr 26th, 16:40:02 Thanks to Frank Kujawski for the tip. From the Loki Entertainment Software website: The Linux version of Civilization: Call to Power will ship during the week of May 3. We delayed shipment by a week so that we could integrate Activision's first patch for the game. Among other things, the patch fixes bugs, provides some UI enhancements and provides network compatibility between the Linux and Windows versions. We have entered into distribution agreements covering the US, Canada, Europe, Australia and Japan. Setting up distribution has taken longer than we hoped -- this is a ground breaking product after all. But we are confident that the distributors we have chosen will work quickly to get Civ:CTP and our upcoming products into the stores where people buy software. Most of the stores where our products will be sold do not yet accept orders, and in many cases don't even have the products listed in their computer. This is already changing now that our distributors are actively selling to these accounts. We'll be posting a list of stores that carry our products as the information comes in. In the meantime, please don't harass anyone at your local software store. For the most part, these chains purchase nationally, and the individual stores have very little control over what products they carry. If we announce that a chain is carrying our products and your local store doesn't know about it, please tell us. We can work with the national offices to rectify the problem. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8777014692235741312==-- From rcoprea@home.ro Tue Apr 27 07:33:19 1999 From: rcoprea@home.ro To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Printing non-US characters Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:33:19 +0300 Message-ID: <99042710410900.00362@sky> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6249830104355429382==" --===============6249830104355429382== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a small printing problem and perhaps you can help me.=20 I am using a US layout keyboard, but from time to time I also need to use some national (Romanian), non-US characters in my documents.=20 In Wordperfect 8, when I introduce any of this characters (from the Insert Symbol I guess menu), this characters are displayed very small (and printed accordingly), no matter how big are the 'regular' characters... In StarOffice 5, there is no such problem (all characters displayed without a= ny difference), but I don't have available all the characters I need, and besides I can't setup my printer to print in different modes (fast, normal, best), or two-paged... why is that? Oh, and I forgot, some folks translated some KDE applications into Romanian, but the specific, national characters are displayed like something without sense (bars, dots, etc)... is there anything I could do to my Linux machine to support national, non-US characters ? Thank you, Razvan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6249830104355429382==-- From rcoprea@home.ro Tue Apr 27 07:41:13 1999 From: rcoprea@home.ro To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Caldera and SuSE Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:41:13 +0300 Message-ID: <99042711125601.00362@sky> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7126328942917891382==" --===============7126328942917891382== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have seen Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 at work, and I must admit it was pretty impressive. They have taken 3 important, I say decisions: 1. fully graphical install 2. full verification of all applications included on their CD's (at least that's what they claim) 3. active support of one graphical environment for X (in this case, KDE). If the first and the second are indeed necessary, and I expect SuSE to follow, the third might not be that clear. Linux is very confusing for beginners not because it has many tools and applications, but because they have different "look and feel"'s -- they look and act differently. You just can't expect to conquer great acceptation and force the user to learn different switches for a multitude of commands -- and say that "This is UNIX, boy". Not long time ago everyone wrote an application= he considered good, sent it to one of Linux distributors and it was included in the next release. This is choice, you're right. But that's not proffesional attitude either. A proffesional OS must have its OWN PERSONALITY. The fact th= at you have included StarOffice sooner than your neighbour is irrelevant. And RedHat and Caldera have understood this. You have 5 CD's from SuSE. None else offers 5 CD's. So? Is this a note of personality? How many have you really us= ed? After how long have you realized the applications included were outdated?=20 The real issue is X. This is the real problem. I think that over 900f all Linux developers work right now on/for X. I don't think there are many out there to develop command line applications. So the personality I was talking about must reside in the future, in X. Very well. Now we have another problem. Due to the multitude of applications and libraries, each program will look different (up to a certain point) and will have to load its specific libraries -- wich slows down the system. Having a single library for many applications (may this be Qt or some other) assures the same look and feel and also peak performance. Now what can it be done? Making up your mind. I advocate Linux distributors to choose a graphical environment and develop it, making it suitable for them. For instance Caldera has its own YaST, called COAS which is integrated into KDE (again, as far as I know). The choice will then reduced to being able to choose between several Linux distributions, but it will definitely worth it. There are two options here, and SuSE took the third. 1. RedHat chose GNOME (you have the option to choose KDE in RH 6.0, but they only develop GNOME and the integration is GNOME-like). 2. Caldera chose KDE (in 2.2). Period. 3. SuSE chose both of them (in 6.1), without actively supporting either of th= em (as far as I know). And history teaches us that those who wanted to stay neut= er got beaten first. Will SaX and YaST be integrated into a graphical environment SuSE? Why not developing your own system control and configuration applicatio= ns under one of this two graphical environments, giving it the fingerprint of yo= ur own personality? Ooops! This mail got long without realizing it. Sorry, and also I hope none felt offended. Thanks, Razvan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7126328942917891382==-- From alex@daniloff.com Tue Apr 27 09:40:43 1999 From: alex@daniloff.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] GUI program for network and mail confuguration. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:40:43 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5239197703448179963==" --===============5239197703448179963== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello SuSE folks! Does somebody khow if there any GUI program for network and e-mail configuration suitable for SuSE distro? I mean kind of netconf GUI program that used in Red for network and mail configuration. Is there any possibility that SuSE will include TkApache or Comanche in their next distribution!? Lenz? Thanks Alex -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5239197703448179963==-- From kester@cwcom.net Tue Apr 27 10:10:35 1999 From: kester@cwcom.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] DOS emulators /vmware Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:10:35 +0100 Message-ID: <005201be9096$32786e00$2b0d1280@kester> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] DOS emulators /vmware> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8753555528722613243==" --===============8753555528722613243== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, does anyone know if I can run a DOS box in X windows in a similar fashion to Windows95? I take it dosemu doesn't run under X; but has anybody tried such a thing using vmware or wine using SuSE? k. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8753555528722613243==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Tue Apr 27 11:09:20 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] DOS emulators /vmware Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:09:20 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <005201be9096$32786e00$2b0d1280@kester> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2238474229498910903==" --===============2238474229498910903== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27-Apr-99 Kester Clegg wrote: > Hello all, >=20 > does anyone know if I can run a DOS box in X windows in a similar > fashion to Windows95? I take it dosemu doesn't run under X; Dosemu does run under X. Either you can simply start it from an xterm (in which case it looks like an xterm displaying what you would see if you started it in a text console), or you can start the X version ("xdos", for which look in the /etc/dosemu.conf file under "DOS in a Box"), which starts up a new X-window for DOS. Either way, however, you may have problems accessing all the control/function key combinations which are accessible from the console. And I have never got DOS graphics to display in an X-window by either method, while programs which use VGA graphics mostly work OK in the console (provided this is on the same physiacl machine as the one running dosemu, and not over a network). Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 27-Apr-99 Time: 12:09:20 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2238474229498910903==-- From ct2marer@yahoo.com Tue Apr 27 11:19:45 1999 From: ct2marer@yahoo.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Mouse problem with SuSe 6.0 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 04:19:45 -0700 Message-ID: <19990427111945.6954.rocketmail@web702.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5216157905081227071==" --===============5216157905081227071== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have bought Suse linux 6.0 . I have a problem, gpm and Sax don't detect it. it's a Ps2 Genius mouse. Someone Knows how to configure it . this problem has solution.... :( ... Thanks ... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5216157905081227071==-- From TXDELBAE@ctrl.co.uk Tue Apr 27 11:30:56 1999 From: TXDELBAE@ctrl.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] FW: Pilots & Linux Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:30:56 +0100 Message-ID: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B9B6E@ctrl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2650992636083764373==" --===============2650992636083764373== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hi, >=20 > I have ventured into the world of Linux (SuSE 6.0) on my home PC, and I > was wondering if it is possible to have some sort of PIM that runs on > Linux. I have KDE installed. >=20 > Can my Pilot sync with anything running on Linux. I know Tracy is a big > Linux fan, so what do you use? >=20 > I would like to eventually drop all Windows stuff, but I have a few apps > that I am not sure about any equivilant in Linux. Palm Desktop being one. >=20 > Thanks > Tim Delbaere > Environment > & 0171 692 8024 ) EGH 603 > <mailto:txdelbae(a)ctrl.co.uk> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2650992636083764373==-- From alan@fuse.net Tue Apr 27 11:45:31 1999 From: alan@fuse.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE please include ppp as module by default! Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:45:31 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990427085633.A4953@connix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0262699925247109856==" --===============0262699925247109856== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just my $0.02 but there are a lot of installs that do not need PPP... Any place where the unit is plugged into a LAN w/Internet connectivity... --A Alan Melick, NOC Engineer II On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 dizzy73(a)connix.com wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > This is just my opinion, I had to recompile my kernel under SuSE 6 to > > include ppp support as a module. I actually think this in the end was a > > good thing, the making of the kernel went really smoothly and I felt > > like I had actually learned more about Linux, which is all good.=20 > > However, I do think it's a daunting task, and especialy if you've onl;y > > ever used windows, well its kind of hardcore. I really think that ppp > > should be a loadable module by DEFAULT in the SuSE package. I think it > > would save some time and make the experience easier and nicer for > > newcomers, and well what harm could it do? At most, someone might > > rebuild the kernel excluding ppp as a module but I think that the > > benefit for newcomers would be worth it. I really think SuSE should be > > ppp ready put of the box. >=20 > I totaly agree > WHY... In Gods name would one not want ppp? Im still using 5.3 and would be= curious as to WHAT is standard in the kernal. > Id really like to hear the logic as to why ppp isnt included in the stock S= uSE kernal. LenZ.... Hubert???? > leme know when you included ppp and Ill consider a new SuSe distro. > This looks to me like any new user who wants to try SuSE and getonline need= to compile a kernal--- not very "user friendly" > Till then Ive adapted quite nicely to 5.3 >=20 > rob=20 > Linux Home Page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73= /LBM.htm> > S.u.S.E Linux 5.3=20 > =20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0262699925247109856==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 27 11:57:16 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] COLOR PRINTERS SUPPORTED BY LINUX Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:57:16 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990427115716.00faf8c8@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1020835793736844610==" --===============1020835793736844610== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folkd, need some more help from you all. I need a clor printer that is supported under linux , most notably color suport. I am inter3sted in two types , low end ink jet color , preferably block and color that uses a seperate cartredge for each color. Here I am thinking in the 200 - 400 doller ranbe , even some sort of high volume inkjet , not so much the home use type. econdly some sort of hight technology laser/thermal dye or other type technology that can suport making 10 - 20 color printouts per day. This will be used on a daily bases. I plan on useing the printer for 8.5 X 11 inch color price sings . 10 - 20 per day , most likey 10 per day most of the time , bit as meny as 50 once or twice per month. Milage may vary so to speak based on market and time of year. Can any of you sugest weather to go the ink jet or stear towards the more exensive technologies ?=20 Light grahics will be invoilved for sprucing up the price sings. Thirdly can any of you sugest linux software that can be used to make the singes , ie can something like wordperfect be used , or will I need somw sort of "publisher" or "print master" type program be more usefull heare.=20 Needs are mostly price sings with grahgis , but also holidy sings ie santa with gift boxs or pilgrams with a turkey sort of thing. I would like somthing that is realativly easy to use , similar to MS publisher typ thing. Not a text manipulation think like latex , but WSYWIG program. Learning curve is an isue , as I will need to trian a couple employees on how to use it , and we have the average "joe" who has nver used this type of pc/software. Minimum , is to at least get them to choose a sing out of stock of allreat saved onnes , and later to get them to create modify there own sings. I hope I am being realistic here , so please let me know what you think will be usefull. Printer must be suported by inux , as I want to slowly move to it on a machine by machine basis. Thanks all what about stck imagery. What is avuialable for linux ?? Curretly I am using winodws Print Master Gold whick comes with a program cd and 5 image stock cds that cost me 60.00 at comp usa. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1020835793736844610==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Tue Apr 27 12:06:52 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] screen blackening Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:06:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3725A85C.64BD0B61@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3992670129828525129==" --===============3992670129828525129== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, How does one keep the screen from going black after 10 minutes or so.= I prefer just to see the screensavers .. I am using Windowmaker as my windows manager. I know this seems to be a lame question, but I just have no clue where to look for the setting .. Thanks in advance for the help, --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3992670129828525129==-- From tux@datapro.co.za Tue Apr 27 12:13:01 1999 From: tux@datapro.co.za To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] DOS emulators /vmware Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:13:01 +0200 Message-ID: <19990427141301.A1344@datapro.co.za> In-Reply-To: <005201be9096$32786e00$2b0d1280@kester> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1726589599262084459==" --===============1726589599262084459== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 11:10:35AM +0100, Kester Clegg wrote: > does anyone know if I can run a DOS box in X windows in a similar fashion to > Windows95? I take it dosemu doesn't run under X; but has anybody tried such > a thing using vmware or wine using SuSE? Actually, dosemu runs fine in an xterm on my system. --=20 Steve Crane stevec(a)netlane.com http://www.datapro.co.za/~stevec> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1726589599262084459==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Apr 27 12:13:43 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: 2.2.6 Kernel Compile Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:13:43 +0200 Message-ID: <19990427141343.A1445@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <37251AB3.FA82C7A4@ndh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3442487964246774172==" --===============3442487964246774172== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 04:02 +0200, hhv wrote: > Most curiously SuSE 6.1. too seems to contain modutils 2.1.85. Nope, it has the current version (2.2.2-pre6). Ciao, Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3442487964246774172==-- From alex@physical36.chem.ufl.edu Tue Apr 27 12:17:22 1999 From: alex@physical36.chem.ufl.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] question re. jaz disk Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:17:22 -0400 Message-ID: <199904271217.IAA12371@physical36.chem.ufl.edu> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] question re. jaz disk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0669089703021826135==" --===============0669089703021826135== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for all the helpful advice on how to format a jaz disk. It works great. I did a backup of my hard drive on it last night and am quite pleased that my jaz is now "Linux-owned".=20 Best regards, Alex. --=20 Dr. Alexander Angerhofer Associate Professor of Chemistry Department of Chemistry The University of Florida Box 117200 Gainesville, FL 32611-7200 USA Tel.: (+1) 352 846 3281 alt.: (+1) 352 392 9489 lab : (+1) 352 846 3283 FAX : (+1) 352 392 0872 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0669089703021826135==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Tue Apr 27 12:26:17 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Printing non-US characters Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:26:17 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99042710410900.00362@sky> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5824213356813376918==" --===============5824213356813376918== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    On 27-Apr-99 Razvan Cristian Oprea wrote:
    > 
    > I have a small printing problem and perhaps you can help me. 
    > I am using a US layout keyboard, but from time to time I also need to
    > use some national (Romanian), non-US characters in my documents. 
    > 
    > In Wordperfect 8, when I introduce any of this characters (from the
    > Insert Symbol I guess menu), this characters are displayed very small
    > (and printed accordingly), no matter how big are the 'regular'
    > characters...
    > 
    > In StarOffice 5, there is no such problem (all characters displayed
    > without any difference), but I don't have available all the characters
    > I need, and besides I can't setup my printer to print in different
    > modes (fast, normal, best), or two-paged... why is that?
    > 
    > Oh, and I forgot, some folks translated some KDE applications into
    > Romanian, but the specific, national characters are displayed like
    > something without sense (bars, dots, etc)... is there anything I could
    > do to my Linux machine to support national, non-US characters  ?
    
    Comprehensive multinational support is a problem right across the board.
    
    The WordPerfect case is due to the changes introduced when WordPerfect 6
    for Windows was created. Previously, WP-5.1 handled most of this
    satsifactorily provided your printer could handle it. To take one sample:
    the Romanian a-breve ("a" with a small bowl-shaped "breve" accent above)
    is WP-5 character [1,91], and it is still there as [1,91] in WP-8
    ("Insert Symbol" -> "Multinational"). However, while in WP-5.1 this would
    probably display as a blob on the console, at least it would print right
    provided your printer had the "breve" accent (as all standard PostScript
    printers do). The WP-5.1 PS printer driver was capable of recognising
    whether any accented character was present as a single glyph (like
    "e-acute") in the printer's fonts, or whether it had to be composed using
    separate glyphs ("a-breve" -> "a" glyph with "breve" glyph printed above
    it). In the first case the printer code for the accented character is
    sent; in the second case, the code instructing the printer how to print
    the two glyphs in the right relationship is sent, all in the current font.
    
    Since WP-6, however, the "WYSYWIG" mentality tied the printer drivers and
    the screen display much more closely together. The mechanism just
    described apparently no longer exists (unless you create it using WP
    macros -- this is not easy!). WP also made the fundamental error of
    supplying only a single font for Multinational characters outside
    the range of a single ISO-Latin encoding. The result is exactly what
    Razvan describes: the Romanian character, being outside the Latin-1
    range, both displays and prints in this unique "multinational" font which
    is always the same whatever the font (Times, Helvetica, ZCMI, ... ) or
    the style (Roman, Bold, Italic). My view on all this, shared by the
    various others who have been vituperating on the Wordperfect-8 for Linux
    users list, is that WP-8, like everything since WP-6, for Windows or for
    UNIX, is useless for multinational purposes. We are hoping that the
    amount of criticism this situation has generated will cause Corel to
    address the problem properly, but we still hope only.
    
    I can't answer for StarOffice and KDE. It doesn't surprise me that
    they don't have every character that Razvan needs: I don't think any
    standard WYSIWYG word processing package has ever taken a proper view of
    non-English languages. There is specialised software (e.g. "Multilingual
    Scholar") which has been created expressly for people who need to do
    a correct job in several languages, but I'm not aware of anything like
    this available for UNIX/Linux (and they are not complete in the normal
    "word processor" sense either).
    
    My own solution to this, which I have been using for the last 15 years
    without serious difficulty, relies on troff (now part of the groff suite).
    TeX could be made to do just as good a job. This is not a word-processing
    package but a text-formatting package with great generality and
    flexibility. In particular, you can define any characters you need as
    composites or even as chunks of PostScript code which draw them.
    So, for instance, with the following in a macro package:
    
      .acc*over-def breve \(ab
      .char \[abr] a\*[breve]
    
    the Romanian "a-breve" character can subsequently be invoked as \[abr] at
    any time. Similarly the Romanian "t-cedilla" can be defined and given the
    invoking code "\[t,]". So I can write to Razvan:
    
      Mul\[t,]umesc pentru t\[abr]u email
    
    meaning:
    
      M u l  u m e s c   p e n t r u   t  u   e m a i l
    
    and it will print fine in any available font, and can also be displayed
    on screen using ghostview  ("gv") to display the PostScript file (in fact
    I use this, editing with vim and running gv in parallel in "watch" mode,
    to get a kind of delayed WYSIWIG). (View the little PostScript attachment
    to this mail in gv, produced from the troff source above using ms macros
    plus custom definitions).
    
    In fact I have no difficulty with any European language nor with Turkish
    using the standard PostScript printer resources and, with extra
    downloadable fonts, Cyrillic, and (by tweaking) extended Cyrillic for
    languages like Uzbek (though actually WP-8 is not too bad for the latter).
    
    It would, however, be nice if the people creating the major main-stream
    packages would become properly aware of non-English languages, maybe even
    simply that they exist and are used by a potential market of several
    hundred millions of people!
    
    Best wishes to all,
    Ted.
    
    PS The following subject line, received from the LINGUIST list this
    morning, may amuse you:
    
      LINGUIST List:  Vol-10-594. Mon Apr 26 1999. ISSN: 1068-4875.
    
      Subject: 10.594, Jobs: Microsoft, Military linguist
    
    (Turns out that these are two separate mailings in a digest, but it
    had me worried for a moment ... ).
    
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    E-Mail: (Ted Harding) 
    Date: 27-Apr-99                                       Time: 13:26:17
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    --===============5824213356813376918==-- From kick@c2i.net Tue Apr 27 12:39:58 1999 From: kick@c2i.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Printing problems Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:39:58 +0200 Message-ID: <199904271224.OAA25458@falk.c2i.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0784333972989669756==" --===============0784333972989669756== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Using a AMDK6 + SusE 6.0 + 2.2.4 kernel as a print server for various Mac=20 hosts over TCP/ethernet. The printer is an old NEC SilentWriter postscript=20 attached via parport0. After managing to get past the initial setting up of lpd everything seemed=20 to be running fine using lprold; tried using plp but kept getting lpd=20 errors of !?! Anyway recently when attempting to print larger jobs things have gone=20 downhill; lpd seems to process the files ok but the printer simply goes=20 idle.=20 The Macs print the same files directly to the same printer without any=20 hitches, so its not the files or the printer at fault. Anyone out there with experience of what could be the problem here? Any config tips to optimise spooling of larger postscript jobs? Can i configure printcap to help with this? or apsfilter ? Or is it a port=20 problem ? Where should i start??? any help really appreciated. thanks. -vern -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0784333972989669756==-- From grimmer@suse.de Tue Apr 27 12:46:34 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Something very interresting for electronics fans Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:46:34 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <371CCDE2.4B6A3706@worldonline.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5675024829971424122==" --===============5675024829971424122== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Joop Boonen wrote: > I found on the site of http://www.cadsoft.de/> (Eagle PCB software). > That they need linux beta software testers. I have sent an application > in and i now may test it. >=20 > So if other people who are into electronics and/or PCB design can do > the same. I have just installed the program. It looks very nice. I > haven't tested it yet. I am also beta tester for it, although I haven't been working with Eagle for quite a while... I hope we will receive permission to put it on the CD, as soon as it is finished. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5675024829971424122==-- From mperry@basin.com Tue Apr 27 12:48:16 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] FW: Pilots & Linux Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 05:48:16 -0700 Message-ID: <19990427054816.A17101@basin.com> In-Reply-To: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B9B6E@ctrl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7626793032745170995==" --===============7626793032745170995== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Delbaere, Tim on Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 12:30:56PM +0100: >=20 > > Hi, > >=20 > > I have ventured into the world of Linux (SuSE 6.0) on my home PC, and I > > was wondering if it is possible to have some sort of PIM that runs on > > Linux. I have KDE installed. > >=20 > > Can my Pilot sync with anything running on Linux. I know Tracy is a big > > Linux fan, so what do you use? > >=20 > > I would like to eventually drop all Windows stuff, but I have a few apps > > that I am not sure about any equivilant in Linux. Palm Desktop being one. > >=20 > > Thanks > > Tim Delbaere > > Environment > > & 0171 692 8024 ) EGH 603 > > <mailto:txdelbae(a)ctrl.co.uk> > >=20 > -- I use a Palm 5 and if you have kde installed you should probably check out the kpilot program which will supposedly provide a conduit to link with korganizer. You can use a variety of other tools for linux. I back up my pilot often using the pilot-link software and there are other things out there like pilotmanager. I have also seen various applications which will support the files that the pilot writes on the linux side. For me, personally, I use vmware for this and have installed the Palm desktop. I use vmware for a few other things and adding serial support was quite easy. One of my office colleagues is using kpilot and korganize quite effectively though. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7626793032745170995==-- From mperry@basin.com Tue Apr 27 12:51:48 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] VMware? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 05:51:48 -0700 Message-ID: <19990427055148.B17101@basin.com> In-Reply-To: <19990426143221.6434.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6231323410139892834==" --===============6231323410139892834== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Keith Snape on Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 07:32:21AM -0700: >=20 > Has anyone actually gotten a decent version of VMware > to work? Personally, I tried it out after I got my new > computer, and even on a PII 400 with 128meg DIMM(s) > found that it ran incredibly slow (at least at first). > I then attempted to use an ATAPI cdrom driver, and > got a segmentation fault.... Was I going about this > wrong, or is it just meant not to work properly (like > anything else associated with MicroSlop?) >=20 > Thanks, > Keith Snape >=20 > _________________________________________________________ I use vmware daily and have not noticed anything really bad with it. IT does have a tendency not to load the vmnet bridged network interface on occasion for me. I use it on a Dell Insipiron Laptop and get decent performance. A few things though. Get the vmware-tools package and try running at full screen. A new beta is coming out soon according to vmware. I have not gotten a segfault using vmware although I did destroy the session and the config file by trying to rollup the window once. It seems to be quite sensitive about its window. --=20 Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ---------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6231323410139892834==-- From grimmer@suse.de Tue Apr 27 12:54:05 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Self Introduction Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:54:05 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990421033117.19871.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2645659901660687639==" --===============2645659901660687639== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, orry for the late reply, I'm still catching up my mailbox :) On 20 Apr 1999, Jon Pennington wrote: > To the approximately eleven hundred of you who subscribe to this > list, I'm pleased to meet you. I live in Kansas City, Missouri, in > the US of A, (no, cows do not roam the streets anymore [sheesh, why do > people always ask that?]). I've been a Linux user since kernel 1.3.1, > but I'm still an amatuer. I've used most major distros, inculding > lots of Slack (my first), RH 5.2, COL 1.1-1.3, Debian 1.3 (for about > three hours), and SuSE since 5.2. Hell, I've even dabled in a little > FreeBSD. I'm writing this message before driving home from work to > install SuSE 6.0 for the first time. >=20 > From this point forward, I promise not to make meaningless postings, > flame people too hard, or to ask any dumb questions. If a question > that I post sounds dumb, feel free to beat the tar out of me the first > time we F2F. I also vow to distribute the most useful and up to date > information I have (with or without your request ;) ), and be > courteous as reasonable with all of you. Welcome! > For starters, I'd *love* to fire-up a one-on-one conversation with > someone about their adventures with SuSE 6.0, kernel 2.2, frame buffer > video, or PCI sound cards. I look forward to my first reply, flame, > etc., from an intelligent person . Although I cannot go into one-to-one conversations: I currently run SuSE 6.1, Linux 2.2.5-ac7-su1 (need to update, I know) with a frambuffer console (1024x768) on an AMD K6-200 w/ Matrox Mystique 220. Neat :) Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2645659901660687639==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Tue Apr 27 12:56:33 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE please include ppp as module by default! Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:56:33 -0400 Message-ID: <19990427085633.A4953@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SuSE please include ppp as module by default!> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5650162457854781637==" --===============5650162457854781637== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > This is just my opinion, I had to recompile my kernel under SuSE 6 to > include ppp support as a module. I actually think this in the end was a > good thing, the making of the kernel went really smoothly and I felt > like I had actually learned more about Linux, which is all good.=20 > However, I do think it's a daunting task, and especialy if you've onl;y > ever used windows, well its kind of hardcore. I really think that ppp > should be a loadable module by DEFAULT in the SuSE package. I think it > would save some time and make the experience easier and nicer for > newcomers, and well what harm could it do? At most, someone might > rebuild the kernel excluding ppp as a module but I think that the > benefit for newcomers would be worth it. I really think SuSE should be > ppp ready put of the box. I totaly agree WHY... In Gods name would one not want ppp? Im still using 5.3 and would be c= urious as to WHAT is standard in the kernal. Id really like to hear the logic as to why ppp isnt included in the stock SuS= E kernal. LenZ.... Hubert???? leme know when you included ppp and Ill consider a new SuSe distro. This looks to me like any new user who wants to try SuSE and getonline need t= o compile a kernal--- not very "user friendly" Till then Ive adapted quite nicely to 5.3 rob=20 Linux Home Page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> S.u.S.E Linux 5.3=20 =20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5650162457854781637==-- From grimmer@suse.de Tue Apr 27 13:02:49 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Any Help With WindowMaker!?!? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:02:49 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990421144540.19602.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5568914864663556146==" --===============5568914864663556146== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Keith Snape wrote: > > Would anyone happen to be able to assist me with setting up > WindowMaker as my default, and prominant WindowManager/Desktop for X? =20 > This is the first time I've actually gotten X installed, and working > (even though I've been at linux for almost a year now), but I havent > the foggiest idea of how to go about setting up WindowMaker. I > recently installed SuSE 5.3, then put the WindowMaker RPM on floppy, > and installed it. Now, the only question is...... What do I do from > here?!?! :) You define your preferred Window Manager by setting the environment variable WINDOWMANAGER. So if you want to start WindowMaker, put the following in ~/.bashrc: export WINDOWMANAGER=3D/usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker Before running X, you need to run wmaker.inst. Don't let the script modify your .xinitrc, setting WINDOWMANAGER is all you need. Now "startx" should run WindowMaker... Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5568914864663556146==-- From boyd@cs.unca.edu Tue Apr 27 13:05:39 1999 From: boyd@cs.unca.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] DOS emulators /vmware Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:05:39 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8953717243244389713==" --===============8953717243244389713== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk wrote: >=20 > On 27-Apr-99 Kester Clegg wrote: > > Hello all, > >=20 > > does anyone know if I can run a DOS box in X windows in a similar > > fashion to Windows95? I take it dosemu doesn't run under X; >=20 > Dosemu does run under X. Either you can simply start it from an xterm > (in which case it looks like an xterm displaying what you would see > if you started it in a text console), or you can start the X version > ("xdos", for which look in the /etc/dosemu.conf file under "DOS in a > Box"), which starts up a new X-window for DOS. Either way, however, you > may have problems accessing all the control/function key combinations > which are accessible from the console. >=20 > And I have never got DOS graphics to display in an X-window by either > method, while programs which use VGA graphics mostly work OK in the > console (provided this is on the same physiacl machine as the one > running dosemu, and not over a network). VMware supports virtual machines. That means you can install a DOS virtual machine as well as a Windows virtual machine. I've done that and it worked well. You can run that DOS virtual machine in an X window or full screen. Mark -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8953717243244389713==-- From jperser@airmail.net Tue Apr 27 13:06:28 1999 From: jperser@airmail.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SLE] mailing list archives Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:06:28 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2550755794811617432==" --===============2550755794811617432== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are there archives of this mailing list anywhere? --=20 To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com = =20 Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ --===============2550755794811617432==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Apr 27 13:25:39 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Function of System.map Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:25:39 +0200 Message-ID: <19990427152539.A275@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0519708186595781596==" --===============0519708186595781596== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 22:54 -0400, Steve Pauly wrote: > Hanspeter wondered if the the placement of System.map in /boot was a 2.2.x > kernel issue. I don't know, but man lilo.conf says you can specify where > the map file is located in lilo.conf, for example, by: >=20 > image =3D /boot/vmlinuz > root =3D /dev/hda4 > label =3D linux > map =3D /boot/map_place/System.map >=20 > The default location is /boot/System.map, though you can specify an > alternative location. >=20 > Someone also pointed out that the function of the .map file is (only)to > aid kernel crash diagnosis. >=20 > Pls correct me if wrong. HTH You asked for it ;-) The System.map and the map file the lilo.conf manpage is talking about are two different things. If you want to change the location of the System.map file to something other than /, /boot or /usr/src/linux, you have to use the -k option when starting klogd (this is done in /sbin/init.d/syslog. Ciao, Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0519708186595781596==-- From jperser@airmail.net Tue Apr 27 13:31:07 1999 From: jperser@airmail.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SLE] GATEWAY Address Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:31:07 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3978730652848531042==" --===============3978730652848531042== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where does this actually get set? In yast for eth0 I put in my gateway address of 192.168.1.1 (which is my IPMASQ server) but when I look in rc.config at the IFCONFIG_0 parameter it points to 192.168.1.255. If this is the wrong place, where do I put the value so my machine will try and route through my IP MASQ machine? --=20 To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com = =20 Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ --===============3978730652848531042==-- From grimmer@suse.de Tue Apr 27 13:42:23 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] screen blackening Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:42:23 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3725A85C.64BD0B61@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6710274910842196364==" --===============6710274910842196364== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Ben Rosenberg wrote: > How does one keep the screen from going black after 10 minutes or so. I > prefer just to see the screensavers .. I am using Windowmaker as my > windows manager. I know this seems to be a lame question, but I just > have no clue where to look for the setting .. To disable the internal screen saver, see the manual page to "xset", IIRC, "xset s off" disables it. In addition to that, I've put the following in my .xinitrc: if [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/xscreensaver ] ; then /usr/X11R6/bin/xscreensaver & else if [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/xautolock -a -x /usr/X11R6/bin/xlock ] ; then xautolock -locker "xlock -nolock" & else echo "No screensaver available :(" fi fi Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6710274910842196364==-- From jzuluaga@naima.udea.edu.co Tue Apr 27 13:45:10 1999 From: jzuluaga@naima.udea.edu.co To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SiS6326?? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:45:10 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7807920911128028801==" --===============7807920911128028801== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Somebody know, if recently (I was disconnected of this list for a month), has been created a new version of XF86_SVGA server, that include better support for SiS drivers??? Thanks. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7807920911128028801==-- From jperser@airmail.net Tue Apr 27 13:49:53 1999 From: jperser@airmail.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SLE] GATEWAY ADDRESS Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:49:53 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1035768667843164521==" --===============1035768667843164521== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've looked at /etc/route.conf and it has default set to 192.168.1.1 so I assume this is pointing to my IP MASQ machine to resolve a network address. If I try and ftp or ping from this machine to the outside world through my gateway I get "network unreachable". I can get to the network from my gateway without a problem (eg this email). I'm using the 2.0.36 kernel and the following commands to setup the IP MASQ. I've set IP_FORWARDING to yes in rc.config. Anything else I'm obviously missing? I used ipfwadm -F -p deny ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.1.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 Should I forget working with 2.0.36 and upgrade to SuSE 6.2? Is the IP-MASQ setup easier? --=20 To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com = =20 Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ --===============1035768667843164521==-- From jzuluaga@naima.udea.edu.co Tue Apr 27 13:51:24 1999 From: jzuluaga@naima.udea.edu.co To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Printer Configuration! Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:51:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0002797825325207202==" --===============0002797825325207202== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I am trying to configure my HPLaserJet 4000TN printer. This printer is connected in the parallel port of my PC. When I try to configure with the KDE Printer Panel I can't to find the list of printers (types of printers) supported!! and the program don't allow me to configure it correctly! Can somebody help me! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Jorge Zuluaga Departamento de Fisica Universidad de Antioquia Medellin - Colombia =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0002797825325207202==-- From camst65+@pitt.edu Tue Apr 27 14:03:46 1999 From: camst65+@pitt.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Setting Margins in a2ps Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:03:46 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990426153158.A310@BeagleDog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1952464481108727438==" --===============1952464481108727438== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't know the fix, but have the exact same printer and problem. Please let = me know what you figure out.=20 chris On 26-Apr-99 Howard Arons wrote: >=20 > I'm using the gs and apsfilter that come with SuSE 5.2. Printing of=20 > ASCII files via apsfilter is fine, except that the margins are not=20 > quite right; i.e., the left margin is ca 1 inch, and the right is about=20 > 1/3 inch. >=20 > The printer, an HP 520 inkjet, gives proper margins when printing a gs=20 > margin test file--/usr/share/ghostscript/4.03/doc/margins-Letter.ps > This gives 1 inch left, right, top, bottom. The problem is thus=20 > in the a2ps app, and I can't find any clue to setting margins in 'man=20 > a2ps'. >=20 > Anyone know whether a2ps allows margin settings? >=20 > Howard Arons > --=20 > Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- Upgraded to kernel 2.0.36 > Communications by Mutt 0.93.2i > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> ------------------------------------------ E-Mail: Chris Martin =20 Date: 27-Apr-99 Time: 09:03:13 ** Powered by SuSE Linux. You want it?! **=20 http://www= .suse.com> | http://www.linux.org> ------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1952464481108727438==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Apr 27 14:05:05 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: screen blackening Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:05:05 +0200 Message-ID: <19990427160505.B587@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <3725A85C.64BD0B61@gothic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6554282409761452858==" --===============6554282409761452858== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 07:06 -0500, Ben Rosenberg wrote: > How does one keep the screen from going black after 10 minutes or so. I > prefer just to see the screensavers .. I am using Windowmaker as my > windows manager. I know this seems to be a lame question, but I just > have no clue where to look for the setting .. It's done with xset: `xset s off'. Ciao, Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6554282409761452858==-- From Michele_America@porto.nomimarketing.pt Tue Apr 27 14:06:10 1999 From: Michele_America@porto.nomimarketing.pt To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] 10/100 MBit ethernet board. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:06:10 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE90BF.7CD771C0.Michele_America@porto.nomimarketing.pt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8820726798501004282==" --===============8820726798501004282== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Could someone recomend a 10/100 MBit ethernet board to work with SuSE=20 Linux 5.3 ? One that is well supported. Thanks. -- Michele_America(a)porto.nomimarketing.pt Dept. de Inform=C3=A1tica LINUX the choice of a GNU generation -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8820726798501004282==-- From martin.jackson@mankato.msus.edu Tue Apr 27 14:14:29 1999 From: martin.jackson@mankato.msus.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Any Help With WindowMaker!?!? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:14:29 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1835360363374306399==" --===============1835360363374306399== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another way to do it is (if you use KDM, and I do) to put "windowmaker" in the supported list of sessions in kdmrc. If you put it at the beginning, it will be the default wm, and will still allow you to run KDE, Gnome or whatever as well, if you choose. Martin Jackson: martin.jackson(a)mankato.msus.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D aka mjackson(a)deskmedia.com (preferred) aka jacksm(a)mail.mankato.msus.edu aka jacksm(a)krypton.mankato.msus.edu -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1835360363374306399==-- From imm@KidsCare.Net Tue Apr 27 14:28:14 1999 From: imm@KidsCare.Net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SiS6326?? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:28:14 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SiS6326??> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2367923925123552229==" --===============2367923925123552229== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable jzuluaga(a)naima.udea.edu.co writes: > > >Hi! > >Somebody know, if recently (I was disconnected of >this list for a month), has been created a new >version of XF86_SVGA server, that include better >support for SiS drivers??? > >Thanks. We'll probably have to wait for xfree86 v4:< I've even tried the latest accellx and it's not much better. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2367923925123552229==-- From ozyman@easyliving.com Tue Apr 27 14:56:21 1999 From: ozyman@easyliving.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 10/100 MBit ethernet board. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:56:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3725D015.A44F20DF@easyliving.com> In-Reply-To: <01BE90BF.7CD771C0.Michele_America@porto.nomimarketing.pt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0463148301608725844==" --===============0463148301608725844== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable netgear fa310tx About 20 bucks and includes a driver for linux on the install disk. Michele America wrote: >=20 > Could someone recomend a 10/100 MBit ethernet board to work with SuSE > Linux 5.3 ? >=20 > One that is well supported. >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > -- > Michele_America(a)porto.nomimarketing.pt > Dept. de Inform=C3=A1tica >=20 > LINUX the choice of a GNU generation >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0463148301608725844==-- From kester@cwcom.net Tue Apr 27 14:59:13 1999 From: kester@cwcom.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] psnup & psbook problem Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:59:13 +0100 Message-ID: <002201be90ca$e900f460$2b0d1280@kester> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] psnup & psbook problem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0354131104503658199==" --===============0354131104503658199== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You may need to additionally tumble the pages to the printer (use -T option) if you want them double sided as per a A5 booklet, psnup only puts any number of *logical* pages onto one, psbook will arrange first opposite last and so on. You can pipe the commands together. But you haven't described what your problems are - we need to know to help you. I used them both for making A5 (double-sided) booklets of draft copies of my thesis; I could carry them around in my pocket to edit, very convenient and cheap! ;-) k. -----Original Message----- From: Sasa Janiska To: SuSE Linux Mailing List Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 6:53 PM Subject: [SuSE Linux] psnup & psbook problem : :Hi! : :I'm putting one smaller book together using Lyx (I've just discovered :it and I'm so happy) on SuSE 6.0 : :I'd like to print 2 portrait A5 pages from the book on 1 landscape A4 :page. :I've got the info to use psnup for that purpose, but I'm not getting :desired result. : :Anybody has some experience with it? : :What about psbook to get the whole book ready to put in a cover? :Sasa : :-------------------------------------------- :Sasa Janiska :Zagreb, Croatia :E-mail: sjaniska(a)inet.hr : : :-- :To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with :this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e :Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the :archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0354131104503658199==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Tue Apr 27 15:22:02 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SiS6326?? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:22:02 -0700 Message-ID: <199904271522.IAA21029@www2.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SiS6326??> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6818093818119935014==" --===============6818093818119935014== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have 3.3.3.1 and it "supports" SiS 6326. It does a pretty crummy job,=20 though. It took a LOT of trial and error to get through all the weird=20 Options that you need specific to the video card, and the one that worked=20 for me is one that doesn't seem to be documented: Option "no_linear" All of my video modes are working, albeit not very well. The oddest thing=20 is that I get 1160x1024 *very* clearly, which is documented as to *not*=20 work. It's the only one that comes up correctly, while the other modes=20 suffer from using a different clock speed than X seems to think (ie: the=20 video is shifted and no amount of adjusting gets it centered). The=20 1160x1024 resolution I get is colour-deficient though (only 256 colours). It seems to be my curse: the only things that work for me are the things=20 that aren't supposed to work. ;) Actually, if someone can post or send me their resolution timings, I'd=20 like to try them out to see if they fix my situation. 1160x1024 is really=20 hard to read without a magnifying glass, hehe. Karsten Johansson Ian M. Moore et.al. wrote: >=20 > jzuluaga(a)naima.udea.edu.co writes: > > > > > >Hi! > > > >Somebody know, if recently (I was disconnected of > >this list for a month), has been created a new > >version of XF86_SVGA server, that include better > >support for SiS drivers??? > > > >Thanks. >=20 > We'll probably have to wait for xfree86 v4:< > I've even tried the latest accellx and it's not much better. >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 >=20 ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6818093818119935014==-- From imm@KidsCare.Net Tue Apr 27 15:44:22 1999 From: imm@KidsCare.Net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] SiS6326?? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:44:22 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7388782074037309358==" --===============7388782074037309358== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do you have the 8mb sis 6329? I have only been able to get 4mb of 8mb to work? I'm not at my linux box now but i'll send those settings to you l8r. I set no accel, nmo bitblt, sw cursor I may try just no linear this evening. "this hear is bat country" Hunter S Thompson ksaj(a)xoommail.com writes: >I have 3.3.3.1 and it "supports" SiS 6326. It does a pretty crummy job,=20 >though. It took a LOT of trial and error to get through all the weird=20 >Options that you need specific to the video card, and the one that worked=20 >for me is one that doesn't seem to be documented: > > Option "no_linear" > >All of my video modes are working, albeit not very well. The oddest >thing=20 >is that I get 1160x1024 *very* clearly, which is documented as to *not*=20 >work. It's the only one that comes up correctly, while the other modes=20 >suffer from using a different clock speed than X seems to think (ie: the=20 >video is shifted and no amount of adjusting gets it centered). The=20 >1160x1024 resolution I get is colour-deficient though (only 256 colours). > >It seems to be my curse: the only things that work for me are the things=20 >that aren't supposed to work. ;) > >Actually, if someone can post or send me their resolution timings, I'd=20 >like to try them out to see if they fix my situation. 1160x1024 is >really=20 >hard to read without a magnifying glass, hehe. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7388782074037309358==-- From hknief@taos.com Tue Apr 27 16:13:36 1999 From: hknief@taos.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 10/100 MBit ethernet board. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:13:36 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <01BE90BF.7CD771C0.Michele_America@porto.nomimarketing.pt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7228269810111035474==" --===============7228269810111035474== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100 and NetGear FA310TX are what I=20 use/recommend. - Herman=20 On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Michele America wrote: >=20 >=20 > Could someone recomend a 10/100 MBit ethernet board to work with SuSE=20 > Linux 5.3 ? >=20 > One that is well supported. >=20 > Thanks. >=20 >=20 > -- > Michele_America(a)porto.nomimarketing.pt > Dept. de Inform=C3=A1tica >=20 > LINUX the choice of a GNU generation >=20 >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7228269810111035474==-- From andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 27 16:24:40 1999 From: andy@mcrentals.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Printer Configuration! Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:24:40 +0100 Message-ID: <005b01be90ca$7cc48500$1701a8c0@andy.mcr.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Printer Configuration!> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6964504023973851663==" --===============6964504023973851663== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think you have to use yast to add hardware/printer. rgds andy -----Original Message----- From: Jorge Ivan Zuluaga To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: 27 April 1999 15:37 Subject: [SuSE Linux] Printer Configuration! > > >Hi! > >I am trying to configure my HPLaserJet 4000TN >printer. This printer is connected in the >parallel port of my PC. When I try to configure >with the KDE Printer Panel I can't to find the >list of printers (types of printers) >supported!! and the program don't allow me to >configure it correctly! > >Can somebody help me! > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >Jorge Zuluaga >Departamento de Fisica >Universidad de Antioquia >Medellin - Colombia > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archive at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6964504023973851663==-- From adcarlso@visinet.ca Tue Apr 27 16:46:09 1999 From: adcarlso@visinet.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Re: Realize the true potential of Linux Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:46:09 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6490264640563898735==" --===============6490264640563898735== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27-Apr-99 Steve Pauly wrote: >=20 > It is pretty obvious that X is relatively unstable, so I hope that as > more GUI > apps emerge, that Linux will not become regarded as unstable, as Win is.=20 >=20 X unstable? Not by a long shot. Especially when you compare it to anything from Microsoft. ----------------------------------- Arlen Carlson Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code. This message was sent by XFmail (Linux) -o) /\\ _\_v The penguins are coming... the penguins are coming... ----------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6490264640563898735==-- From gregt@nadel.com Tue Apr 27 16:58:39 1999 From: gregt@nadel.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Caldera and SuSE Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:58:39 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Caldera and SuSE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1529446202517719871==" --===============1529446202517719871== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Greg Thomas wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Razvan Cristian Oprea wrote: >=20 > > There are two options here, and SuSE took the third. > >=20 > > 1. RedHat chose GNOME (you have the option to choose KDE in RH 6.0, but t= hey > > only develop GNOME and the integration is GNOME-like). > > 2. Caldera chose KDE (in 2.2). Period. > > 3. SuSE chose both of them (in 6.1), without actively supporting either o= f them > > (as far as I know). And history teaches us that those who wanted to stay = neuter > > got beaten first. Will SaX and YaST be integrated into a graphical enviro= nment > > SuSE? Why not developing your own system control and configuration applic= ations > > under one of this two graphical environments, giving it the fingerprint o= f your > > own personality? >=20 > I would say that the choice of Gnome and KDE provided SuSE is great. I > think that it is a benefit, not a liability. Systems integrators and end > users can choose one or the other as a standard. I hope SuSE continues to > offer choices and 5 full CDs. There are things that I miss with RH which > is why for my next purchase I am choosing SuSE 6.1 over Caldera and RH. > I dig Gnome which is a big reason I didn't go with Caldera, and there are > just so many moe apps with SuSE than with RH. I'll probably play around > with Cheapbytes versions of Caldera (if there is one) and RH but my > main money is going to SuSE. >=20 > Later, Greg >=20 >=20 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1529446202517719871==-- From jrodman@suse.com Tue Apr 27 17:15:54 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] sound question...also Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:15:54 -0700 Message-ID: <19990427101554.A16119@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: <372422B5.ECE321FA@asml.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3435957712028083773==" --===============3435957712028083773== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Marcel, * Marcel Donker (marcel.donker(a)asml.nl) [990426 01:59]: > Hi again, >=20 > I've got my SoundBlaster PCI64 working last night. Took me a while, but > on the way learned a lot about Linux and compiling kernels etc. It gets > nicer every day! Yay! > But, I still have a little question. The soundcard works o.k.. I tested > it with a cd-player program and it played my audio cd's alright. Then > tested it by playing some .au sounds with cat 'soundfile.au > > /dev/audio' and it also played the sound alright. But it didn't play > other sound formats like .wav files (only a lot of noise). I know that > .wav is a M$ Winblows sound format, but on the other hand KDE only uses > .wav sounds as systems sounds (??). I can't get them to play either. /dev/audio expects 8hz A-law compressed data. .wav files are headered multi-format audio files. Most are PCM (normal audio data to most people), but they can be other types. PCM .wav files should be able be played to /dev/dsp, which takes PCM. Of course, the device is not going to understand the header, nor will it know the rate, so you might get a bit of static followed by the sound playing at the wrong speed. Better is to use a sound player which sets up the driver for you. As for sound in KDE, uncomment the following lines in /opt/kde/bin/startkde: #startifaudio kaudioserver #startifaudio kwmsound Note that these lines are commented because they can cause trouble on some machines due to some compilation issues. They work fine for most people. > - Or is there something to install which translates these sounds into > .au-sounds.=20 SoX will do it, among others. > - is .au the defacto sound 'standard' under linux/unix? (I know it is a > Sun format) I don't think so. Multi-platform UNIX people used to use .au heavily, but many Linux people these days have more PC heritage than UNIX heritage. Besides, .au's sound quality is pretty bad. =20 There are probably some reasonably simple, non-cpu-intensive sound-compression algorithms, but no one has created a widely used format like this. As a result, uncompressed PCM is in vogue, and .wav files have as usable a header as anything else, so you'll probably see a lot of these. > Thanks in advance, >=20 > Marcel No problem, -josh -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3435957712028083773==-- From jrodman@suse.com Tue Apr 27 17:22:57 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Star Office Desktop icon Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:22:57 -0700 Message-ID: <19990427102257.B16119@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: <199904261120.MAA21848@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8130513244447155670==" --===============8130513244447155670== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, * Richard (r.ibbotson(a)zen.co.uk) [990426 05:03]: > Andy >=20 > On 26 Apr 99, at 10:51, Andy Thomson wrote: >=20 > > Now I have put Star office in /Office50, how do I get an Icon on the > > desktop to start the soffice script from the /Office50/bin directory? > >=20 > In KDE right click your mouse and you'll see a drop down menu (like=20 > MS Windows). Select "program" and then wait for the cog shaped icon=20 > to appear on your desktop. Right click that icon and select=20 > "properties". Then go for the tab that allows you to select the=20 > directory where your star office start up script is. you can then=20 > browse for the script. Click on OK. and that's it finished. >=20 > Send me some mail if you still can't work it out ? Hopefully Richard's mail cleared things up, but at least in my KDE environment things are trivially different. You must right-click on the desktop and select New -> Application. The name Program.kdelnk can be changed to something like SOffice.kdelnk if you like, or it can be changed later. All that's left now is to set up the Execute line and pick an icon.=20 Of course, if you install the KDE Integration in Star Office some icons will already be present in your K menu. -josh > Thanks >=20 > Richard > Sheffield UK > 0973 682181 > SuSE technical support at: > http://home.freeuk.net/linux.help/> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8130513244447155670==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Tue Apr 27 17:29:32 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] SiS6326?? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:29:32 -0700 Message-ID: <199904271729.KAA30990@www2.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1338761147596627452==" --===============1338761147596627452== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mine is a 4Meg card. The "no_linear" option will get rid of black-spots and = what I call crumbling... if you move an object around, the video becomes less= =20 and less stable and details become blacked out. Some of the other options I found have no noticable effect whatsoever Now I just have to fix my vid tunings, but otherwise, it is very stable now. = =20 The vid tunings are being a royal pain in the you-know-what since the only on= e=20 I've been able to match clock-speed/resolution is 1160x1024, and that is just= =20 too damn small. The clock speeds for 640x480, 800x600, and 1024x768 is faste= r=20 than the modes that end up being chosen, so I get the screen "way over=20 there..." and when I center it, it becomes bowed. My hardware is good, btw... it works perfectly under Windows. In fact, it is= =20 so clear I am disappointed that I can't get X to do that right now. :) So i= f=20 anyone can provide me with some good vidtunings for higher the clockrates, I'= d=20 really appreciate it. If I remember, I will post what they are set at later = tonight when I get home.... and I will include the Options stuff for those wh= o=20 are having problems getting it to look stable. Anyway, I hope my "no_linear" tip helps out the folks who have had that=20 particular set of problems. Laters, Karsten Ian M. Moore et.al. wrote: >=20 > Do you have the 8mb sis 6329? > I have only been able to get 4mb of 8mb to work? > I'm not at my linux box now but i'll send those settings to you l8r. > I set no accel, nmo bitblt, sw cursor > I may try just no linear this evening. >=20 > "this hear is bat country" > Hunter S Thompson >=20 > ksaj(a)xoommail.com writes: > >I have 3.3.3.1 and it "supports" SiS 6326. It does a pretty crummy job, = > >though. It took a LOT of trial and error to get through all the weird=20 > >Options that you need specific to the video card, and the one that worked= =20 > >for me is one that doesn't seem to be documented: > > > > Option "no_linear" > > > >All of my video modes are working, albeit not very well. The oddest > >thing=20 > >is that I get 1160x1024 *very* clearly, which is documented as to *not*=20 > >work. It's the only one that comes up correctly, while the other modes=20 > >suffer from using a different clock speed than X seems to think (ie: the = > >video is shifted and no amount of adjusting gets it centered). The=20 > >1160x1024 resolution I get is colour-deficient though (only 256 colours). > > > >It seems to be my curse: the only things that work for me are the things = > >that aren't supposed to work. ;) > > > >Actually, if someone can post or send me their resolution timings, I'd=20 > >like to try them out to see if they fix my situation. 1160x1024 is > >really=20 > >hard to read without a magnifying glass, hehe. >=20 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 >=20 ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1338761147596627452==-- From martin@gisser.de Tue Apr 27 18:01:48 1999 From: martin@gisser.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] xwd -silent -name "Desk 0" | xwdtopnm > pager.pnm Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:01:48 +0000 Message-ID: <3725FB8C.622BEB93@gisser.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7953942109320167064==" --===============7953942109320167064== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ahhh, Mr Grimmer is on the list! I remember the days when I set up my first SuSE Linux box and the great install support I got for almost no money... Dear list, I want my FvwmPager go public. But it doesn't work and I have no more clue what to do. Here is the core element of the script I'm working on: xwd -silent -name "Desk 0" | xwdtopnm > pager.pnm but that gives me only the green channel :-( :-( or a broken pipe when the pager window is somewhere behind. In the broken pipe case, the result is a brownish pattern. So I guess something is wrong with xwd ?? Maybe I've got to buy another graphics card with 24bpp supporting driver ? Any X expert around here? Cheers, Martin -----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Martin J Gisser -- Still waiting for Big Art to happen on the 'Net ... | Mars J Florifundator, his alter ego, meanwhile is editor-and-chief of |=20 The Alling Journal of Information Technology DaDa and Related Fields | at http://www.physik.uni-regensburg.de/~gim22186/Journal/Journal.html= > | Visit the other side of Martin's box at http://www.gisser.de> | -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7953942109320167064==-- From jrodman@suse.com Tue Apr 27 18:09:40 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Unreal Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:09:40 -0700 Message-ID: <19990427110940.D16119@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1847824153922787465==" --===============1847824153922787465== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Michael Johnson (hekate(a)intergate.bc.ca) [990426 13:29]: > I seem to recall there was some mention not too long ago on different > Linux sites in respect to the porting of this game to Linux. I looked the > other day and can't seem to find anything. Is anyone following this > project or does anyone know if it is still being continued?=20 Perhaps the server was/will be, but I really doubt it for the game. AFAIK, there's no clean seperation of game engine from win32 interface, so it would be a lot of work. EPIC has their hands full with simply making Unreal Tournament. -josh -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1847824153922787465==-- From jrodman@suse.com Tue Apr 27 18:12:36 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] How to use IP Masquerading? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:12:36 -0700 Message-ID: <19990427111236.E16119@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: <3724FD1A.5718E8BC@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3715401734299910524==" --===============3715401734299910524== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello 'root': * root (pmaries(a)ibm.net) [990426 18:41]: >=20 > I am testing SuSE 6.0 after many years with RedHat, so far it seems to > be a very good distribution; however I have a problem: I need to use IP > Masquerading but the "firewall" rpm is documented in German and as far > as my German goes it doesn't seem to say much about the subject.=20 >=20 > Has anybody installed this option and could give me some ideas? Take a peek at the following URL and see if it answers some of your questions: http://skaro= .nightcrawler.com/~bb/FW-HOWTO/FW-Howto.html> Best of luck, -josh -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3715401734299910524==-- From imm@KidsCare.Net Tue Apr 27 18:30:47 1999 From: imm@KidsCare.Net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] new XFCom_SiS (formerly XSuSE_SiS) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:30:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9020379167881544395==" --===============9020379167881544395== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html#sis> i will try this new xsis server tonight woohoo! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9020379167881544395==-- From jrodman@suse.com Tue Apr 27 18:51:11 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE please include ppp as module by default! Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:51:11 -0700 Message-ID: <19990427115111.F16119@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: <37255017.15006D0A@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7297858808724765707==" --===============7297858808724765707== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello out there, * star rubies (mcdo148(a)ibm.net) [990426 22:36]: > Hello all, >=20 > This is just my opinion, I had to recompile my kernel under SuSE 6 > to include ppp support as a module. I actually think this in the end was > a good thing, the making of the kernel went really smoothly and I felt > like I had actually learned more about Linux, which is all good.=20 > > However, I do think it's a daunting task, and especialy if you've > only ever used windows, well its kind of hardcore. I really think that > ppp should be a loadable module by DEFAULT in the SuSE package. I think > it would save some time and make the experience easier and nicer for > newcomers, and well what harm could it do? At most, someone might > rebuild the kernel excluding ppp as a module but I think that the > benefit for newcomers would be worth it. I really think SuSE should be > ppp ready put of the box. > > Anyways, thats just my opinion, feedback appreciated and keep up > the good work SuSE.=20 > Cheers everyone, > Dom I've heard this sentiment from many customers on the phone, among other places. People who say "Why don't you include ppp in the kernel?" or "I had to recompile the kernel to get ppp support." I'm completely at a loss as to why this is happening. SuSE 6.0 includes PPP with the default kernel setup. I know that 5.1 and 5.2 did as well, because I used them. I'm less sure about 5.3 because that's between the time I had a cable modem installed and when I started getting serious about digging into SuSE. PPP support is not compiled into the kernel for a good reason. It is entirely unecessary for system boot. There is no way that anyone is going to get their root filesystem over NFS over PPP without a ton of ugly hacking that SuSE would be no help with. In other words, it should _always_ be possible to load ppp from a module, and that module should _always_ be present. On a stock SuSE 6 system, you should be able to see that ppp.o is installed. jrodman(a)Baader:~ > locate ppp.o /lib/modules/2.0.36/net/ppp.o /lib/modules/2.2.0-pre7/net/ppp.o /lib/modules/2.2.0-pre7/net/syncppp.o Where did these files come from? jrodman(a)Baader:~ > rpm -q -f /lib/modules/2.0.36/net/ppp.o kernmod-2.0.36-12 kermod is in the series "a" or "Base -- You need it". I would be surprised if a system worked correctly at all without this pacakge. To test to see if there are any errors with this module, I try the following: root(a)Baader:/sbin/init.d/rc2.d > lsmod Module Pages Used by minix 6 1 (autoclean) loop 2 2 (autoclean) vmnet 3 1 vmmon 3 0 3c59x 5 1 (autoclean) dummy0 1 1 (autoclean) memstat 1 0 root(a)Baader:/sbin/init.d/rc2.d > modprobe ppp root(a)Baader:/sbin/init.d/rc2.d > lsmod Module Pages Used by ppp 5 0 slhc 2 [ppp] 0 minix 6 1 (autoclean) loop 2 2 (autoclean) vmnet 3 1 vmmon 3 0 3c59x 5 1 (autoclean) dummy0 1 1 (autoclean) memstat 1 0 Are any of these things different for you folk? Is the kerneld not being started? =20 jrodman(a)Baader:~ > ps aux |grep [k]ernel root 59 0.0 0.0 780 116 ? S Apr 12 0:00 /sbin/kerneld PPP _is_ included in SuSE kernels as a module. It should work too. If it isn't, go ahead and mail support(a)suse.com. -josh -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7297858808724765707==-- From sinthetk@gothic.net Tue Apr 27 18:53:10 1999 From: sinthetk@gothic.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: screen blackening Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:53:10 -0500 Message-ID: <37260796.FA64C9DE@gothic.net> In-Reply-To: <19990427160505.B587@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4687681238209354522==" --===============4687681238209354522== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to all who replied.. :) >=20 > It's done with xset: `xset s off'. >=20 --=20 Ben Rosenberg mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net "Workstation powered by SuSE Linux " -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4687681238209354522==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Tue Apr 27 19:05:52 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] new XFCom_SiS (formerly XSuSE_SiS) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:05:52 -0700 Message-ID: <199904271905.MAA29742@www2.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] new XFCom_SiS (formerly XSuSE_SiS)> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2846928205803557860==" --===============2846928205803557860== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is that not for all the SiS cards *except* the 6326? Karsten Johansson Ian M. Moore et.al. wrote: >=20 > http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html#si= s> >=20 > i will try this new xsis server tonight woohoo! ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2846928205803557860==-- From imm@KidsCare.Net Tue Apr 27 19:21:09 1999 From: imm@KidsCare.Net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] new XFCom_SiS (formerly XSuSE_SiS) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:21:09 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3446033847748992949==" --===============3446033847748992949== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This was updated 3/17/99 check the link 6326 agp is in the list=20 I'm going to work on this tonight >http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html#sis<= /A> ksaj(a)xoommail.com writes: >Is that not for all the SiS cards *except* the 6326? > > Karsten Johansson > >Ian M. Moore et.al. wrote: > >=20 > > http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html#s= is> > >=20 > > i will try this new xsis server tonight woohoo! > > >______________________________________________________ >Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> >Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting >cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3446033847748992949==-- From ksaj@xoommail.com Tue Apr 27 20:04:43 1999 From: ksaj@xoommail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: Re(2): [SuSE Linux] new XFCom_SiS (formerly XSuSE_SiS) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:04:43 -0700 Message-ID: <199904272004.NAA17432@www2.xoommail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4775224426957772178==" --===============4775224426957772178== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian M. Moore et.al. wrote: > This was updated 3/17/99 check the link 6326 agp is in the list=20 > I'm going to work on this tonight > >http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html#s= is> This sounds like good news. :) I'll have to check it out on the weekend. Let me know how the=20 operation goes... Laters, Karsten ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com> Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4775224426957772178==-- From jrodman@suse.com Tue Apr 27 20:22:49 1999 From: jrodman@suse.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] TEAC CD-C68E Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:22:49 -0700 Message-ID: <19990427132249.A13236@Baader.SuSE.Com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] TEAC CD-C68E> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2146116377705978796==" --===============2146116377705978796== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Continuing the thread on CD Changers: * j.vermeulen (j.vermeulen(a)hot.A2000.nl) [990427 12:05]: > Josh Rodman wrote: > =20 > > > I have a TEAC CD-ROM Changer that I want to move from my Wintel box to a > > > Linux system that I am in the process of assembling. [...] > > > how this could be achieved? > >=20 > > Multiple-disc SCSI devices are broken down into the rarely discussed > > LUNs, or Logical Unit Numbers. This is a fetaure which SCSI has > > always had, and is mainly exploited by CDROM changers. >=20 > If it were SCSI there would not be a problem, I suppose. But it's a > bl**dy EIDE drive (and I'm sorry for having forgotten to tell that). >=20 > Any hope for me short of disassembling the DOS driver it came with? Yes. There is a less graceful way to handles these, documented in the following CDB article: http://www.suse.d= e/Support/sdb_e/maddin_cdchanger.html> quoting:=20 "It is not that simple with ATAPI changes. There is only one device file (e.g. /dev/hdc). You need to switch the CDs manually with a little tool. You need to unmount the CD, change it and remount it afterwards.=20 This tiny tool is called cdload. Go and get the package which may be obtained from our FTP site under ftp://ftp.suse.com/= pub/suse_update/special/cdload.tgz> . Unpack it and install cdload to /usr/bin and invoke it as follows:=20 cdload /dev/hdc 3 This should load the 4th CD.=20 It is not that comfortable as with SCSI changes." As the file is getting rather old, (1998), you may want to rebuild it for your system like so: mkdir tmp cd tmp tar xvzf cdload.tgz gcc cdload.c -o cdload su=20 cp cdload /usr/bin chmod go-w /usr/bin/cdload chmod a+xr /usr/bin/cdload More information can be found in the following file: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/cdrom/ide-cd > JV Best of luck, -josh -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archive at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2146116377705978796==-- From northsky@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 27 20:43:35 1999 From: northsky@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] xwd -silent -name "Desk 0" | xwdtopnm > pager.pnm Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:43:35 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3725FB8C.622BEB93@gisser.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7944806121486058307==" --===============7944806121486058307== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Martin Gisser wrote: > xwd -silent -name "Desk 0" | xwdtopnm > pager.pnm >=20 > but that gives me only the green channel :-( :-( > or a broken pipe when the pager window is somewhere behind. Try looking at it in The GIMP or some other program, and/or converting it to a different file format. XV doesn't seem to like xwds. 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This message is normal to see, but n never gets to N, it always stops at N-1. Prior to today, it would stop at N. I have tried a different mail client and Netscape is getting all of the messages off of the server, but it is disheartening to see the appearance of one message getting lost. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! Dave H -- _ _| ~~. David Henderson \, _} DHenders(a)VT.Edu \( Gig 'em Aggies! '93 Currently at: Interdepartmental Genetics Program 2010 Litton Reaves Hall Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540)231-4773 (540)231-5014 DHenders(a)VT.Edu http://www.dasc.vt.edu/hender= son/dhenderson.html>
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    From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Tue Apr 27 20:55:19 1999
    From: richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: [SuSE Linux] No SuSE KDE icons after re-install..help
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:55:19 +0100
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    Hi
    
    I have had to re-install SuSE 6 and I no longer have the SuSE icons
    including the YaST icons on the toolbar or from the K menu.
    
    I have started from scratch, partioning etc and have re-installed 5 times
    without success!
    
    Any ideas?
    
    Thanks
    
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    From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Tue Apr 27 20:59:32 1999
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    Subject: [SuSE Linux] Permissions for users to shutdown?
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    Hi
    
    How do you set permissions for users to shutdown the pc?  I know about using
    KDM, but are there any other ways?
    
    Thanks
    
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    From stevep@bash.linux-shell.net Tue Apr 27 21:34:41 1999
    From: stevep@bash.linux-shell.net
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Re: Realize the true potential of Linux
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:34:41 -0400
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    On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Arlen Carlson wrote:
    
    >=20
    > On 27-Apr-99 Steve Pauly wrote:
    > >=20
    > > It is pretty obvious that X is relatively  unstable, so I hope that as
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^
    Note the word "relative". The snipped context contrasted gui and non-gui
    apps running under Linux.
    
    > > more GUI
    
    > > apps emerge, that Linux will not become regarded as unstable, as Win is. =
    
    > >=20
    >=20
    > X unstable?  Not by a long shot.  Especially when you compare it to anything
    > from Microsoft.
    >
    
    I want my linux X app to run 99.9table. I don't really care how MS
    compares. I get tired of people putting MS down to make Linux look good.
    Let's make Linux better and MS will naturally "go down".=20
    
    Have a good day! :-)
    
    Steve.
    
    =20
    > -----------------------------------
    > Arlen Carlson 
    >=20
    > Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code.
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    From naurgrim@karn.org Tue Apr 27 21:43:31 1999
    From: naurgrim@karn.org
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    Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 10/100 MBit ethernet board.
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:43:31 -0400
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    On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, you wrote:
    >Could someone recomend a 10/100 MBit ethernet board to work with SuSE=20
    >Linux 5.3 ?
    >
    >One that is well supported.
    
    Intel eepro 100
    3Com 3c905
    Kingston kne110tx
    Linksys etherfast 10/100
    
    I've used all of the above, and they all run fine. The last two use the
    tulip module, and are rather less expensive than the Intel and the 3Com.
    
    
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    From sinthetk@gothic.net Tue Apr 27 21:56:10 1999
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    Subject: [SuSE Linux] black word balloons?
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:56:10 -0500
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    Does anyone have any clues as to why my balloons in WindowMaker that
    appear over app icons would suddenly go black with out me having changed
    anything accept typing " xset s off "
    I am running 0.52.0, and I had changing nothing. I tried changing
    themes, restarting the WM..but nothing has effected it. When I move the
    mouse over the icons..it is just a black filled in balloon... :/
    
    Any thoughts would be helpful.
    
    Thanks,
    
    --=20
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    From jlkreps@navix.net Tue Apr 27 22:04:35 1999
    From: jlkreps@navix.net
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Realize the true potential of Linux
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:04:35 -0500
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    Alexander Daniloff wrote:
    >=20
    > I can only be hoping that sometimes in the next 6.x version SuSE will
    > achieve the same easy to install featured distro as Caldera does.
    > In this case more people and businesses can say good buy to Windoze forever.
    > We must understand that the way that any OS should be designed is install
    > and run without system tuning, hair pulling, infinite tweaking and crying
    > for help on the mailing lists. The defenders of the command line interface
    > and a blank screen will be disagreed but system, users, printers, network
    > and everything administration must be done in GUI, otherwise it won't work
    > in business world.
    > There is no way to spend a weeks even hours for editing most of
    > configuration files manually when your whole business depends on Linux.
    > Just install and go!
    >=20
    
    The one thing I appreciate about SuSE, compared to my previous Linux
    (RH), was that it *is* "install and go".  When YaST is used correctly I
    find it hardly ever necessary to tweek a config file.
    
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    From h.vossieck@ndh.net Tue Apr 27 22:14:43 1999
    From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: Function of System.map
    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:14:43 +0200
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    The installer's map and System.map have absolutely nothing in
    common.=20
    System.map is for example used by klogd and ps. See the rele-
    vant manpages. Also see the man pages for default locations of the
    System.map file.
    
    Henning
    
    
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    From h.vossieck@ndh.net Tue Apr 27 22:18:12 1999
    From: h.vossieck@ndh.net
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: 2.2.6 Kernel Compile
    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:18:12 +0200
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    Stefan Troeger wrote:
    >=20
    > Hi,
    >=20
    > On Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 04:02 +0200, hhv wrote:
    >=20
    > > Most curiously SuSE 6.1. too seems to contain modutils 2.1.85.
    >=20
    > Nope, it has the current version (2.2.2-pre6).
    
    Hm. Nice. Until now I've only got the Cebit beta.
    
    Henning
    
    
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    From tschlemmer@sequeltech.com Tue Apr 27 22:31:02 1999
    From: tschlemmer@sequeltech.com
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    Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Permissions for users to shutdown?
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:31:02 -0700
    Message-ID: <37263AA6.AA5B433E@sequeltech.com>
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    I've used "sudo" in the past to give non-root users the ability to
    shutdown the system. I know "sudo" is on one of the CDROMS in the set
    that ships with SuSE 6.0.
    
    Tony
    
    Richard Booth wrote:
    >=20
    > Hi
    >=20
    > How do you set permissions for users to shutdown the pc?  I know about using
    > KDM, but are there any other ways?
    >=20
    > Thanks
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    From jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu Tue Apr 27 23:09:54 1999
    From: jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: [SuSE Linux] Enlightenment preconfigured in SuSE 6.1?
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:09:54 -0400
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    I saw on the 6.1 release information about enlightenment.  I was wondering
    if SuSE was intending or possibly having a preconfig for enlightenment or a
    /etc/skel/.enlightenment that would let us get started with it...
    
    I've been impressed with what I've seen of it and windowmaker, but I am
    really having to search for configuration information, etc...
    
                                                    Jonathan
    
    P.S.  I'm currently using Windowmaker.
    
    --=20
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    From tomas@primenet.com Wed Apr 28 00:00:56 1999
    From: tomas@primenet.com
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] VMware?
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:00:56 -0700
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    Michael Perry wrote:
    >=20
    >  A new beta is coming out soon according to vmware.
    
      Just received e-mail that the beta, build-135 is now available for
    Linux.
    
    --=20
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    From northsky@ix.netcom.com Wed Apr 28 01:14:37 1999
    From: northsky@ix.netcom.com
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    Subject:
     Re: [SuSE Linux] xwd -silent -name "Desk 0" | xwdtopnm > pager.pnm
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:14:37 -0400
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    On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Martin Gisser wrote:
    > Ewan Dunbar wrote:
    > >=20
    > > On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Martin Gisser wrote:
    > > >   xwd -silent -name "Desk 0" | xwdtopnm > pager.pnm
    > > >
    > > > but that gives me only the green channel  :-(  :-(
    > > > or a broken pipe when the pager window is somewhere behind.
    > >=20
    > > Try looking at it in The GIMP or some other program, and/or converting it
    > > to a different file format. XV doesn't seem to like xwds. I could be
    > > wrong, but IIRC, xwd will also save to different file formats.
    >=20
    > I made my "green channel only" diagnosis by using the GIMP.
    > And before that, I had  pnmtogif  in the pipe.
    > Maybe one can use xv instead of xwd?
    > But even if one could: it would be shooting sparrows with artillery.
    
    Right. So take all conversion out of the pipe. Do `xwd -silent -name "Desk
    0" -out pager.xwd`. Or maybe you just have to redirect stdout to
    pager.xwd. In any case, don't convert it. I've had the same problem. Then,
    look at it in The GIMP. In my experience, it works. Convert from there. A
    pain, I know. But, like I said, IIRC -- and I could be wrong -- xwd will
    also save to different file formats.
    
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    From james.frentress@itmship.com Wed Apr 28 01:20:08 1999
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    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: [SuSE Linux] mail client for microsoft exchange
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:20:08 -0700
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    can netscape be configured as a mail client to a microsoft exchange mail
    server? is there an Office97 type application (mail, calendar, news,
    contacts, etc) available for moving windows desktops to linux.
    
    any and all details are appreciated.
    
    
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    From james.frentress@itmship.com Wed Apr 28 01:20:57 1999
    From: james.frentress@itmship.com
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: [SuSE Linux] project manager for linux
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:20:57 -0700
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    anyone using a good project manager under linux? should have msproject level
    functionality.
    
    tia
    
    
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    From martin@gisser.de Wed Apr 28 01:53:38 1999
    From: martin@gisser.de
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject:
     Re: [SuSE Linux] xwd -silent -name "Desk 0" | xwdtopnm > pager.pnm
    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 01:53:38 +0000
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    Ewan Dunbar wrote:
    >=20
    > On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Martin Gisser wrote:
    > >   xwd -silent -name "Desk 0" | xwdtopnm > pager.pnm
    > >
    > > but that gives me only the green channel  :-(  :-(
    > > or a broken pipe when the pager window is somewhere behind.
    >=20
    > Try looking at it in The GIMP or some other program, and/or converting it
    > to a different file format. XV doesn't seem to like xwds. I could be
    > wrong, but IIRC, xwd will also save to different file formats.
    
    I made my "green channel only" diagnosis by using the GIMP.
    And before that, I had  pnmtogif  in the pipe.
    Maybe one can use xv instead of xwd?
    But even if one could: it would be shooting sparrows with artillery.
    
    :-)
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    From sinthetk@gothic.net Wed Apr 28 01:57:38 1999
    From: sinthetk@gothic.net
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: [SuSE Linux] pictures
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:57:38 -0500
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    hello all,
    
            I was wondering if there is a piece of software that does the same job
    as ThumbsPlus under Windows. I use to love that program, but I have
    looked off and on for a piece of software for Linux that does the same
    thing..displaying multiple thumbnails at once..if there is such an
    animal, please let me know..url?
    
    thanks :)
    
    --=20
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    From canderson_ca@hotmail.com Wed Apr 28 02:41:05 1999
    From: canderson_ca@hotmail.com
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: [SuSE Linux] Gateway problem & Gnome howto
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:41:05 -0700
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    Hello everyone,
    
       I have a few problems, I am very familiar with redhat but I am new
    to suse. I have a redhat box running ipchains that gives access to the
    internet to all the workstations connected to the local network. I am
    unable to get the route setup correctly to allow my suse box access to
    the internet, any suggestions. Also, anyone know where I could find a
    good gnome on suse 6.0 howto?
    
    If I should be posting these questions elsewhere please let me know.
    
    Thanks,
    
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    From anavarro@cyberclub.net Wed Apr 28 03:00:43 1999
    From: anavarro@cyberclub.net
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] DOS emulators /vmware
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:00:43 -0500
    Message-ID: <012301be9123$4f0393f0$0502a8c0@ns.tgk.tzo.com>
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    Hi i am using the DosEmu and this work fine i Xserver, i am only 2 problem
    
    1.- my virtual dos disk is very small ( only 1.44 Mb ) i need a disk more
    big ...
    
    2.- Not is posible conect with the netware server ver 4.11 in my company
    ....  TCP/IP and IPX is up in my computer and in the server..
    
    i am using a PII 163 Mb Ram 6.3 HD  10 BT Network card  and suse 6.0
    ........
    
    any idea ?????
    
    alejandro navarro
    anavarro(a)cyberclub.net
    
    >
    >On 27-Apr-99 Kester Clegg wrote:
    >> Hello all,
    >>
    >> does anyone know if I can run a DOS box in X windows in a similar
    >> fashion to Windows95?  I take it dosemu doesn't run under X;
    >
    >Dosemu does run under X. Either you can simply start it from an xterm
    >(in which case it looks like an xterm displaying what you would see
    >if you started it in a text console), or you can start the X version
    >("xdos", for which look in the /etc/dosemu.conf file under "DOS in a
    >Box"), which starts up a new X-window for DOS. Either way, however, you
    >may have problems accessing all the control/function key combinations
    >which are accessible from the console.
    >
    >And I have never got DOS graphics to display in an X-window by either
    >method, while programs which use VGA graphics mostly work OK in the
    >console (provided this is on the same physiacl machine as the one
    >running dosemu, and not over a network).
    >
    >Ted.
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    From jpenn@planetdirect.com Wed Apr 28 03:01:14 1999
    From: jpenn@planetdirect.com
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] COLOR PRINTERS SUPPORTED BY LINUX
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:01:14 -0700
    Message-ID: <19990428030114.17302.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net>
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    On Tue, 27 April 1999, Samy Elashmawy wrote:
    
    > Hi folkd, need some more help from you all.
    > I need a clor printer that is supported under linux , most notably color
    > suport.
    
    Hello,
    
      I don't have any *direct* experince with printing under Linux,
    But I hear that the Epson Stylus Color 800-series printers work
    well under GhostScript.  I have had lots of very good experience
    with the 840 under Windows environments, and for daily work such
    as making display markers and price tags (which is what we used
    them for) they are excellent.  The 800 series uses BCMY cartriges
    (that is, Black, Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, each has it's own head)
    and are very serviceable and easy to get cartriges for.  The last
    time I checked, the 860's were selling for around $325 US if you
    shop smartly.
    
      As far as the thermal or dye-sub printers, regretfully, I have
    no experience whatsoever.  I hope that the above paragraph is
    helpful!
    
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    From jpenn@planetdirect.com Wed Apr 28 03:08:50 1999
    From: jpenn@planetdirect.com
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    Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] VMware?
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:08:50 -0700
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    On Tue, 27 April 1999, Michael Perry wrote:
    
    > Quoting Keith Snape on Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 07:32:21AM -0700:
    > >=20
    > > Has anyone actually gotten a decent version of VMware
    > > to work? Personally, I tried it out after I got my new
    > > computer, and even on a PII 400 with 128meg DIMM(s)
    > > found that it ran incredibly slow (at least at first).
    > >  I then attempted to use an ATAPI cdrom driver, and
    > > got a segmentation fault.... Was I going about this
    > > wrong, or is it just meant not to work properly (like
    > > anything else associated with MicroSlop?)
    > >=20
    > > Thanks,
    > > Keith Snape
    > >=20
    > > _________________________________________________________
    > I use vmware daily and have not noticed anything really bad with it.  IT
    > does have a tendency not to load the vmnet bridged network interface on
    > occasion for me.  I use it on a Dell Insipiron Laptop and get decent
    > performance.  A few things though.  Get the vmware-tools package and try
    > running at full screen.  A new beta is coming out soon according to vmware.
    > I have not gotten a segfault using vmware although I did destroy the session
    > and the config file by trying to rollup the window once.  It seems to be
    > quite sensitive about its window.
    
    Don't forget:  According to the VMWare Web Site, best performance
    is only reallized by using the VMWare version of the X Server,
    or patching and recompiling the source to your X Server.  Since
    X is such a vital component, I'd tend to follow thier suggestion.
    
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    From jpenn@planetdirect.com Wed Apr 28 03:20:50 1999
    From: jpenn@planetdirect.com
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] XBanshee
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:20:50 -0700
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    On Tue, 27 April 1999, Keymer Stanley wrote:
    
    >=20
    > Firstly what is the make of your Banshee card.
    > My experience is that the well known brands like
    > SB and Diamond give more trouble. I have a PowerColor
    > Evil Queen 16Mb, has worked great ever since I installed it?
    >=20
    > -
    > Stan=20
    
    Sorry about that wickedly un-wrapped message I posted before...
    
      Anyway, it is a Creative Labs 3D Blaster Banshee.  My reason
    for choosing the Creative was almost solely based on price.  Even
    the uncommon brands, like your own PowerColor (which I have re-
    gretfully never heard of), were more expensive ($105-130 US) than
    mine at $99 US.  Also, I knew that Creative has kept up on 3Dfx
    video BIOS revisions.
    
      Now, I haven't even tried to install the server yet, and am
    frankly intimidated by the prospect.  My version of SaX (included
    with SuSE 6.0) does not recognize or support my Banshee-based
    card, so it's going to take some editing.  The frame buffer has
    officially made it to my "never-do-this-again" list, so I'm left
    to flounder around with Pico and configuration scripts.
    
      I don't suppose you'd mail me a copy of your XF86Config, would
    you :) ?  For reference, I'm using a Smile CL1414 monitor, which
    is capible of 1600 by 1200 at 16-bit color (that's what I use un-
    der Windows).  It is very satisfying for a budget model monitor.
    
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    From dlaude@execpc.com Wed Apr 28 03:30:21 1999
    From: dlaude@execpc.com
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: Realize the true potential of Linux
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:30:21 -0500
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    >=20
    >=20
    > Alexander wrote:
    >=20
    >>I can only be hoping that sometimes in the next 6.x version SuSE will
    >>achieve the same easy to install featured distro as Caldera does.
    
    
    Just as an example:  I gave a good friend of mine my old 5.0
    version of Suse and RH 5.0.  He's had alot of problems with both
    distribs on a dual boot setup of Win95 and Linux,, the system is
    unique since it has both EIDE and SCSI drives, a scanner, etc.
    
    We went to the spring comdex in Chicago and snatched a copy of
    Caldara 2.2, and personally I was impressed.  It detected
    everything except his Rhico CDRW, via slipping the CD-ROM into
    the drive under Win95.  Pretty clean, but still needs some
    tuning, but it's close!  As a side note:  I like to hack with
    the system, thus Caldara really isn't a option to me personally,
    but then again..., choice is a *good* thing.=20
    
    Dana
    
    
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    From mperry@basin.com Wed Apr 28 04:40:53 1999
    From: mperry@basin.com
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] VMware?
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:40:53 -0700
    Message-ID: <199904280440.VAA05824@mperry.basin.com>
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    On 27 Apr, Jon Pennington wrote:
    >=20
    > On Tue, 27 April 1999, Michael Perry wrote:
    >=20
    >> Quoting Keith Snape on Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 07:32:21AM -0700:
    >> >=20
    >> > Has anyone actually gotten a decent version of VMware
    >> > to work? Personally, I tried it out after I got my new
    >> > computer, and even on a PII 400 with 128meg DIMM(s)
    >> > found that it ran incredibly slow (at least at first).
    >> >  I then attempted to use an ATAPI cdrom driver, and
    >> > got a segmentation fault.... Was I going about this
    >> > wrong, or is it just meant not to work properly (like
    >> > anything else associated with MicroSlop?)
    >> >=20
    >> > Thanks,
    >> > Keith Snape
    >> >=20
    >> > _________________________________________________________
    >> I use vmware daily and have not noticed anything really bad with it.  IT
    >> does have a tendency not to load the vmnet bridged network interface on
    >> occasion for me.  I use it on a Dell Insipiron Laptop and get decent
    >> performance.  A few things though.  Get the vmware-tools package and try
    >> running at full screen.  A new beta is coming out soon according to vmware.
    >> I have not gotten a segfault using vmware although I did destroy the sessi=
    on
    >> and the config file by trying to rollup the window once.  It seems to be
    >> quite sensitive about its window.
    >=20
    > Don't forget:  According to the VMWare Web Site, best performance
    > is only reallized by using the VMWare version of the X Server,
    > or patching and recompiling the source to your X Server.  Since
    > X is such a vital component, I'd tend to follow thier suggestion.
    >=20
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    JP-
    
    Thanks for the advice on the X server.  My problem is that with the
    Dell Inspiron, the default mach driver does not work.  I can either use
    a hacked driver or buy the Xi laptop drivers.  I would prefer to do the
    latter but cannot for several reasons now.  I think this may cause some
    problems in my circumstance.  I just did the latest build on my laptop
    and have not seen the vmnet module fail yet.  If it does fail, it will
    fail when trying to load vmnet-bridge when vmware starts.  I have to
    force start vmmon also with the earlier build.  I really do not need
    networking anymore on the 98 box.  I did demo the laptop at COMDEX
    which was kind of humorous.  Someone came up and said they would
    install Linux if they could run windows applications directly but that
    they realized it could not be done within linux.  I told them "despair
    not" and showed them vmware.  The guy left shaking his head in
    disbelief to see linux booting 98.  I pointed him toward the SuSE booth
    :).
    
    Anyways, thanks for the info!!
    
    --=20
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    From namffuak@skyenet.net Wed Apr 28 04:52:23 1999
    From: namffuak@skyenet.net
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] pictures
    Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:52:23 +0000
    Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990427215223.0110a4e0@pop.skyenet.net>
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    At 08:57 PM 4/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
    >
    >hello all,
    >
    >	I was wondering if there is a piece of software that does the same job
    >as ThumbsPlus under Windows. I use to love that program, but I have
    >looked off and on for a piece of software for Linux that does the same
    >thing..displaying multiple thumbnails at once..if there is such an
    >animal, please let me know..url?
    >
    >thanks :)
    >--=20
    >Ben Rosenberg
    >mailto:sinthetk(a)gothic.net
    >"Workstation powered by SuSE Linux "
    Take a look at xv - it has a feature called 'video schnauser' that builds
    and displays thumbnail images. It's on the SuSE distro (may be in the pay
    section -- it's shareware).
    
    TomK
    
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    From martin@gisser.de Wed Apr 28 05:47:58 1999
    From: martin@gisser.de
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject:
     Re: [SuSE Linux] xwd -silent -name "Desk 0" | xwdtopnm > pager.pnm
    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 05:47:58 +0000
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    Ewan Dunbar wrote:
    >=20
    > On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Martin Gisser wrote:
    > > Ewan Dunbar wrote:
    > > >
    > > > On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Martin Gisser wrote:
    > > > >   xwd -silent -name "Desk 0" | xwdtopnm > pager.pnm
    > > > >
    > > > > but that gives me only the green channel  :-(  :-(
    > > >
    > > > Try looking at it in The GIMP or some other program, and/or converting =
    it
    > > > to a different file format. XV doesn't seem to like xwds. I could be
    > >
    > > I made my "green channel only" diagnosis by using the GIMP.
    >=20
    > Right. So take all conversion out of the pipe. Do `xwd -silent -name "Desk
    > 0" -out pager.xwd`. Or maybe you just have to redirect stdout to
    > pager.xwd. In any case, don't convert it. I've had the same problem. Then,
    > look at it in The GIMP. In my experience, it works. Convert from there. A
    > pain, I know. But, like I said, IIRC -- and I could be wrong -- xwd will
    > also save to different file formats.
    
    HURRAY for the Gimp!  It works with
    xwd -silent -name "Desk 0" -xy -out pager.xwd
    ---------------------------^^^---------------
    
     Sorry, I'm still quite a newbie... just didn't dare to think the Gimp could
     read XWD files.  BTW, what does IIRC stand for?
    
    Now there are problems left :-)
    1.) How to raise the Pager window before taking the shot
    2.) To isolate the XWD-->something_else conversion out of the Gimp code.
    
    I can't believe this xwdtopnm desaster!!
    Throw that f*'n thing out of your distribution, SuSE!
    Isn't there any tiny tool out there that could do the job?
    I guess I'm doomed to write one myself.  Yeah, it's time to get into C etc.!
    
    Thanks for your help!
      Martin
    
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    From jperser@airmail.net Thu Apr 29 00:26:30 1999
    From: jperser@airmail.net
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: [SLE] Masquerading Causing Hair Loss
    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:26:30 -0500
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    Thanks to all those that helped.  I'm up and running now.  My problem
    was the IP being specified in the MSQ setup.  I was using
    192.168.0.0/24 and changing to 192.168.1.0/24 did the trick.
    Changing the MSQ_DEV from eth0 to ppp0 didn't seem to make any=20
    difference.
    I also had to put the following in my boot.local=20
    ipchains -P forward DENY
    ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0
    
    It was a little frustrating that it took so long to get this
    working when the steps were so simple.  A little 5 Minute Masquerding
    HowTo on the SuSE site would be useful since I think this is something
    the majority of people who use Linux want to do.  I'm glad that
    SuSE put the MSQ symbols in the configuration file, it does make
    it easier once you understand what needs to be done.
    
    Again thanks to the great mailing list.
    
    Now on to try my Windows98 and Win2K clients, then firewalling!
    
    BTW: is there any real reason to run Squid if I only have a couple of
    machines on my home net?
    
    regs,
    -jrp
    
    
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    From imagicra@azstarnet.com Fri Apr 30 09:02:48 1999
    From: imagicra@azstarnet.com
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: [SuSE Linux] real player 5.0
    Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:02:48 -0700
    Message-ID: <372971B8.159A8B0C@azstarnet.com>
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    Hello All,
    
    I am a newbie and am impressed with SUSE 6.0.   I
    finally connected to the net and having problems
    with my first download/install.=20
    
    Everything works great except that I can't
    seem to get Real audio/video player to work.
    I'm using OSS since I couldn't get sound to work
    any other way.  I downloaded the elf version at real.com.
    My soundboard is a SB 64 w/ an i586, kernel 2.0.36.=20
    
    After download I succesfully gunzipped into root directory.
    Inside the rvplayer5.0 folder is a lightning icon with rvplayer
    written beside it.  I click on it and it opens up rvplayer,
    but when i try to play anything it says that file compression is
    not supported and also something about no video codec.
    I'm not even sure the package is installed,because when I
    Xterm an rpm -qi rvplayer, it says rvplayer not installed.
    
    Can anybody please help?  What am I doing wrong?=20
    
    Thanks,=20
    Angelina
    
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    From richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk Fri Apr 30 19:14:01 1999
    From: richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] swap partition and multitasking
    Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:14:01 +0100
    Message-ID: <000b01be93bd$80641fe0$c93e883e@freeserve.co.uk>
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    Hi
    
    I have noticed the same thing although I have not got a fix.  Have you know
    discovered a fix or reason?
    
    Thanks
    Rich
    
    >When I
    > run multiple applications I notice that performance suffers greatly and my
    > swap partition is barely being utilized.
    
    
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    From mattias@hemmet.chalmers.se Fri Apr 30 20:08:56 1999
    From: mattias@hemmet.chalmers.se
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: Re: [SLE] TFTPD
    Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:08:56 +0200
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    > Dear Friends,
    >=20
    > I need to run TFTPD on my linux box for my cisco routers to save the
    > image to. However Upon uncommenting tftpd entry in /etc/inetd.conf I
    > still can't get it to work.
    
    Are the routers using IOS? Make sure the tftp-server is configured in
    the router and then use the tftp-command:
    
    tftp router.name.or.address
    get flash:/config.text (or if that doesn't work:=20
    get system:/running-config, though I don't know about the routers, only
    switches)
    
    To upload to cisco router:
    
    # copy tftp://addr=
    ess.of.tftp.server//tftpboot/ configname here>
    
    Uploading to a tftp-server is not recommended, and I've never gotten it to
    work, but this works ok!
    
    /Mattias
    
    
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    From jperser@airmail.net Fri Apr 30 22:27:51 1999
    From: jperser@airmail.net
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: Re: [SLE] Big files?
    Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:27:51 -0500
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    On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, S Jackson wrote:
    
    > Does anyone have any late-breaking info about support for files larger
    > than 2GB under Linux?
    
    I understand that SGI is going to release XFS to the OpenSource=20
    community pretty soon.  I would think that this should address this=20
    problem but I could be wrong here.
    In addition I heard that they were also providing
    a memory bug fix that will expand the 2 GB VM limit to 3.8? =20
    
    >=20
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    >=20
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    From kf@wa.net Fri Apr 30 23:18:57 1999
    From: kf@wa.net
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: [SuSE Linux] Vmware!
    Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 01:18:57 +0200
    Message-ID: <99050101240600.00252@dog>
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    Just downloaded and installed VMware tonight, all I can say is wow! truly
    amazing!  Talk about multitasking? What would you call running two operating
    systems at the same time?  VMware is going to be huge.
    
    Kristian Farren
    
    
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    From quartz@delfi.lt Thu Apr 19 08:54:54 2001
    From: quartz 
    To: users@lists.opensuse.org
    Subject: How to copy file ?
    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:50:31 +0300
    Message-ID: <012d01be8a39$4dc86420$0701a8c0@j>
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    Hi,
    I need to write a bach script that will copy file from Win98 machine trought
    Samba
    I can copy file using smbclient (or smbmount) in shell, but how do that in
    script?
    initially Win98 shared folder is not mounted,
    
    
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