From zentara@mindspring.com Wed Apr 1 00:00:14 1998 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ext2 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:00:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3521838E.1888A789@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <[S.u.S.E. Linux] ext2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3530381015848001580==" --===============3530381015848001580== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pascal Bleser wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can find a good documentation about the ext2 fs ? > It doesn't have to be too precise, but I can't find any ! > (no, no, the ext2fs howto only explains how to (try to) retrieve deleted > files) > > Thanx, people ! > > Pascal > > Sorry I'm a little late with this, but better late than never. If you havn't already, look in /usr/info/libext2fs.info.gz It has details on opening and closing files. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============3530381015848001580==-- From tpaulic@hotmail.com Wed Apr 1 03:06:11 1998 From: tpaulic@hotmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:06:11 -0800 Message-ID: <19980401030612.4791.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <[S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4383347834932023738==" --===============4383347834932023738== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Read to SOUND HOW-TO. If you used the SUSE graphical kernel=20 configuration utility, you will also have to specify other options. I=20 can't remember them off the top of my head, but it's all in the HOW-TO. <> >Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:19:32 -0600 >From: TEX >To: "suse-linux-e(a)suse.com" >Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > >I have a genuine soundblaster 16. When trying to recompile the kernal >for sound it says "Error, you will need to configure the soundcard with >SOUND_CONFIGURATION option. What gives? After error no zImage file >shows up and I am afraid to go on from here. Thanks for all the help. > > >-- >LINUX IS THE PATH. > >TEX http://www.ccms.net/~m= htexcollins/78704.htm> > > __ > / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ > / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / > /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ > ...for IQ's higher than 95... > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============4383347834932023738==-- From tpaulic@hotmail.com Wed Apr 1 03:15:26 1998 From: tpaulic@hotmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:15:26 -0800 Message-ID: <19980401031527.10144.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <[S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2795454041938736522==" --===============2795454041938736522== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oops. it moved. I found it in=20 ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/systems= /linux/sunsite/system/network/serial/ppp/> called pppsetup-1.98.tar.gz <> >Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:25:58 -0600 >From: Leon McClatchey >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com >Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > >Tony Paulic wrote: > >> try any of: >> >>=20 ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/s= ystems/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz> >> >> ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.= gz> >> >> = = ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz> >> >> <> > >I tried all three links via netscape and all three came back being=20 unable to find the >file, check name and try again. > >But meanwhile, the above is a good excuse for me to jump in with=20 another little problem >that I've come across as far as netscape is concerned. That is I can=20 send and recieve >mail with no problem, but as soon as I try to attach a file to a=20 message in netscape, >it causes the modem to send a hangup signal as long as netscape is=20 trying to send that >message and/or get confirmation that it has been sent. > >I can use Pine and it will send the message and the attached file(s)=20 with no problem. >I am currently using netscape 4.04 for linux. Does anyone have any=20 ideas what the >problem is? BTW, I have netscape installed in /usr/local/netscape with=20 links to >/opt/netscape. (I found that this proved to be the most efficient way=20 of doing it due >to space constraints on my system) > >Thanx Loads! >Leon McClatchey >leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com > > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============2795454041938736522==-- From tpaulic@hotmail.com Wed Apr 1 03:18:14 1998 From: tpaulic@hotmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:18:14 -0800 Message-ID: <19980401031815.9437.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <[S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8431056286087147731==" --===============8431056286087147731== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just tried and successfully sent an attached file. Unfortunately, I=20 have little knowledge as to how this works. I installed netscape in=20 /usr/local/netscape and everything points there. <> >Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:25:58 -0600 >From: Leon McClatchey >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com >Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > >Tony Paulic wrote: > >> try any of: >> >>=20 ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/s= ystems/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz> >> >> ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.= gz> >> >> = = ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz> >> >> <> > >I tried all three links via netscape and all three came back being=20 unable to find the >file, check name and try again. > >But meanwhile, the above is a good excuse for me to jump in with=20 another little problem >that I've come across as far as netscape is concerned. That is I can=20 send and recieve >mail with no problem, but as soon as I try to attach a file to a=20 message in netscape, >it causes the modem to send a hangup signal as long as netscape is=20 trying to send that >message and/or get confirmation that it has been sent. > >I can use Pine and it will send the message and the attached file(s)=20 with no problem. >I am currently using netscape 4.04 for linux. Does anyone have any=20 ideas what the >problem is? BTW, I have netscape installed in /usr/local/netscape with=20 links to >/opt/netscape. (I found that this proved to be the most efficient way=20 of doing it due >to space constraints on my system) > >Thanx Loads! >Leon McClatchey >leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com > > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============8431056286087147731==-- From pwlwcz@ibm.net Wed Apr 1 03:51:03 1998 From: pwlwcz@ibm.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] [Fwd: apsfilter problem] Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:51:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3521B9A7.7754E964@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1376150749290630765==" --===============1376150749290630765== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
Hello,
      I sent this in the other day, and I am sorry for resubmitting it,
but, I am at my wits end. Is anyone else having problems with apsfilter
and/or A2PS or is it just me???  Jim Hatridge is trying to help me but,
I think we are in the same boat.

I really want to use and support Linux. I have purchased SuSE 5.1,
Infomagic dev. resource, RedHat 5, Caldera Open Linux base, and Linux
Pro 5.4. Not to mention way too many books that all seem to cost $40.00
each. The guys at the SoftPro bookstore must love me. I even tried the
Debian dist. that came on a BOOT magazine cd a while back. And of all
these I like SuSE the best. If I could only get apsfilter working
correctly I  would be HAPPY. Until I can sort out SuSE, I guess win95,
OS/2, and RedHat 5.0 are going to have to stay on my other
partitions...But, damn! I need the space.

Steve
-- BEGIN included message

Hello,
     I am having a problem with apsfilter and need some help. I set it
up with YAST. I'm using the eps9high driver on a nine pin panasonic dot
matrix printer.  I have also tried the epson driver and the SETUP
program for apsfilter. I can print text using :  lpr -Praw
(my-text-file), or lpr (my-postscript-file). I can also print text using
: a2ps (various command line options) (my-text-file). It seems that the
a2ps options I specified in apsfilterrc and apsfilterrc.eps9high don't
work. lpr command works with .ps files and with text files using -Praw
command line option only, -Plp and -Pascii don't work. My etc/printcap
file looks correct. Also the print button in Netscape 4.04 seems to work
fine, the fonts are too small but, I'm not worried about that right now.
I was under the impression that the "lpr" command would work with any
file type. Isn't that the purpose of apsfilter??? I seem to be able to
print anything by explicitly specifying my needs at the command line. I
can print graphics from netscape.  Am I using this incorrectly or is
something not set up right???

I would appreciate any assistance,
 Steve
-- END included message

--===============1376150749290630765==-- From tpaulic@hotmail.com Wed Apr 1 04:00:45 1998 From: tpaulic@hotmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Faxing Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:00:45 -0800 Message-ID: <19980401040045.29461.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4788551632705469176==" --===============4788551632705469176== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any hints on sending and receiving faxes. I have StarOffice installed=20 and would like to be able to fax out documents from there. Receiving=20 would also be nice, but not as important. thanks. <> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============4788551632705469176==-- From pwlwcz@ibm.net Wed Apr 1 04:15:37 1998 From: pwlwcz@ibm.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The WURD on Linux and AT&T =?utf-8?q?WorldNet?= =?utf-8?b?77+9?= Service Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:15:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3521BF69.15EC8EA@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4046205912208187974==" --===============4046205912208187974== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.wurd.com/w= urd/software/dialers/linux.html> Hello, I think anyone interested in connecting to WorldNet will find this page helpful. It gives all the details on setting up ppp and chap for AT&T. You will need an existing account or you will have to register from a Windows box(!_shock_horror_outrage_!!!) Good Luck, Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============4046205912208187974==-- From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr 1 04:17:48 1998 From: satan@nfinity.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] home directory ownership Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:17:48 -0600 Message-ID: <3521BFEC.E6C51E62@nfinity.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5288510777389562655==" --===============5288510777389562655== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is odd. Last night netscape wouldn't let me save a file because I didn't have permission. I didn't have a clue, so I pulled up rxvt, su'ed, cd .., chown -R satan satan and chgrp -R users satan, then netscape downloaded the file without protest. Now I just tried to download a file 24 hours later and netscape said I didn't have permission. So I pulled up rxvt and cd .. to /home, and my user directory which should have been satan users was root root. What did I screw up and how do I fix it? Why would the ownership of my user directory change to root without me doing so? Thanks in advance, I'm puzzled by this. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============5288510777389562655==-- From dana@ntd.net Wed Apr 1 04:33:57 1998 From: dana@ntd.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] [Fwd: apsfilter problem] Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:33:57 -0600 Message-ID: <3521C3B5.3AE1C92C@ntd.net> In-Reply-To: <3521B9A7.7754E964@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1588086164301539132==" --===============1588086164301539132== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit S Pawlowicz wrote: > Hello, > I sent this in the other day, and I am sorry for resubmitting it, > but, I am at my wits end. Is anyone else having problems with apsfilter > and/or A2PS or is it just me??? Jim Hatridge is trying to help me but, > I think we are in the same boat. > > I really want to use and support Linux. I have purchased SuSE 5.1, > Infomagic dev. resource, RedHat 5, Caldera Open Linux base, and Linux > Pro 5.4. Not to mention way too many books that all seem to cost $40.00 > each. The guys at the SoftPro bookstore must love me. I even tried the > Debian dist. that came on a BOOT magazine cd a while back. And of all > these I like SuSE the best. If I could only get apsfilter working > correctly I would be HAPPY. Until I can sort out SuSE, I guess win95, > OS/2, and RedHat 5.0 are going to have to stay on my other > partitions...But, damn! I need the space. > > Steve > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: apsfilter problem > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:48:32 -0500 > From: S Pawlowicz > To: "suse-linux-e(a)suse.com" > > Hello, > I am having a problem with apsfilter and need some help. I set it > up with YAST. I'm using the eps9high driver on a nine pin panasonic dot > matrix printer. I have also tried the epson driver and the SETUP > program for apsfilter. I can print text using : lpr -Praw > (my-text-file), or lpr (my-postscript-file). I can also print text using > : a2ps (various command line options) (my-text-file). It seems that the > a2ps options I specified in apsfilterrc and apsfilterrc.eps9high don't > work. lpr command works with .ps files and with text files using -Praw > command line option only, -Plp and -Pascii don't work. My etc/printcap > file looks correct. Also the print button in Netscape 4.04 seems to work > fine, the fonts are too small but, I'm not worried about that right now. > I was under the impression that the "lpr" command would work with any > file type. Isn't that the purpose of apsfilter??? I seem to be able to > print anything by explicitly specifying my needs at the command line. I > can print graphics from netscape. Am I using this incorrectly or is > something not set up right??? > > I would appreciate any assistance, > Steve I have the same problem. With RH 5.0 I had NO problems with my printer. S.u.S.E. 5.0 is another story. I can print from StarOffice 4.0 fine, anything else..., forget it. I have a TI MicroWriter which is HP IIp compatible btw. Dana -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============1588086164301539132==-- From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr 1 04:40:14 1998 From: satan@nfinity.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How to set a different WM? Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:40:14 -0600 Message-ID: <3521C52D.41864513@nfinity.com> In-Reply-To: <199804010416.XAA09437@u2.farm.idt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3449087505643745397==" --===============3449087505643745397== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you want to do it without SuSEwm, make your .xinitrc consist of: kaudioserver & kfm -d & kcc -init & kbgndwm & krootwm & kpanel & kwm alexser(a)idt.net wrote: > Hi! > > I am a new user of Linux and S.u.S.E having just installed it > yesterday. Now I am trying to find a way to change the default Window > Manager to KDE. Could someone tell me which file should be changed > and how? Also what should be done when I want to upgrade the version > of KDE to a new one? > > Thank you in advance for your help. > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============3449087505643745397==-- From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr 1 04:59:11 1998 From: satan@nfinity.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How to set a different WM? Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:59:11 -0600 Message-ID: <3521C99F.BFA887B3@nfinity.com> In-Reply-To: <3521C52D.41864513@nfinity.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5418099581259511092==" --===============5418099581259511092== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also, /etc/profile contains a pointer to the kde dir, make sure that you also point to lib and bin: export PATH=$PATH:/opt/kde/bin export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/kde/lib or whatever the appropriate directory is. Michael Lankton wrote: > If you want to do it without SuSEwm, make your .xinitrc consist of: > > kaudioserver & > kfm -d & > kcc -init & > kbgndwm & > krootwm & > kpanel & > kwm > > alexser(a)idt.net wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > I am a new user of Linux and S.u.S.E having just installed it > > yesterday. Now I am trying to find a way to change the default Window > > Manager to KDE. Could someone tell me which file should be changed > > and how? Also what should be done when I want to upgrade the version > > of KDE to a new one? > > > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============5418099581259511092==-- From dedwards@technologist.com Wed Apr 1 05:23:34 1998 From: dedwards@technologist.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] chat file to connect with ATT Worldnet? Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 00:23:34 -0500 Message-ID: <199804010523.AAA03484@workshop.forje.org> In-Reply-To: <[S.u.S.E. Linux] chat file to connect with ATT Worldnet?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8873316256780485468==" --===============8873316256780485468== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
On 31 Mar, William G. Madsen wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Mar 98 06:37:00 +0000, you wrote:
>=20
>>
>>I am using worldnet.  When I joined, there was an entry on the wurd
>>site (don't remember the link right now) that provided a perl script
>>written by an ATT employee.
 --------
>>
> Yes, I would appreciate it  very much if you would Email the perl
> script to me.  I think it is exactly what I need.  Thanks.
>=20
> billmadsen(a)worldnet.att.net
Bill, etal
Here is a copy of my ppp script (/usr/sbin/ppp-on - it has also been
called ppp-worldnet!!). I have also attached the html page that all of
this came from - courtesy of ATT. - some good notes.
Special thanks to Stephen A. Wood - I tried to contact him at ATT a
while ago, but no such luck!! As far as I'm concerned, he deserves a
big thank you.

#!/usr/bin/perl
#
# Script to establish connection from a Linux system to worldnet via PPP.
#
# Look at WORLDNET\PROGRAM\REG.INI(WORLDNET\DIALER\REG.INI and ATT.SR
# under Worldnet version 1) to get the following settings
#
$DOMAIN=3D"worldnet.att.net";
$SEARCH=3D$DOMAIN;
$NAMESERVER1=3D"204.127.129.1";
$NAMESERVER2=3D"204.127.160.1";
$NAMESERVER3=3D"204.127.129.2";
$NAME=3D"\@worldnet.att.net";
$PHONE=3D"1,3025711000"; # Philadelphia, PA
$MODEM=3D"/dev/modem";

$resolv =3D '>/etc/resolv.conf';

open(CONF,$resolv)|| die "Cannot open file: $resolv.\n $! \n";

print CONF "\#resolv.conf - created automatically by ".$ARGV[0]."\n";
print CONF "domain ".$DOMAIN."\n";
print CONF "search ".$SEARCH."\n";
print CONF "nameserver ".$NAMESERVER1."\n";
print CONF "nameserver ".$NAMESERVER2."\n";
print CONF "nameserver ".$NAMESERVER3."\n";

$command=3D"/usr/sbin/pppd name \"".$NAME."\"".
    " -d connect \'/usr/sbin/chat -t 45 -v ABORT BUSY \"\" ATDT".
    $PHONE." CONNECT \"\"\' ".$MODEM.
    " 57600 noipdefault modem defaultroute crtscts";
$ENV{'PATH'} =3D ''; # Make $ENV{'PATH'} untainted
system($command);

The lines 8-12, and 17-26 are  commented out on my SuSE machine and the
necesary data put in resolv.conf permanently - documentation recommended
against frequent updates because of the way SuSE sets things up.

If its not clear what I've done here, email me and I'll try to explain.
 The html doc has a good explanation though.
 Have a good day, everyone.

--=20
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WorldNet User's Reference Desk

Connecting Linux and AT&T Worldnet Services

AT&T's Worldnet Service uses standard PPP (Point-to-Point Protocol) with CHAP (Challange Handshake Authentication Protocol). While Windows 3.1x or Windows 95 is required to register a new account, other operating systems that support PPP with CHAP can be used once an account is registered.

Unless you have already configured your Linux system to use PPP to another Internet Service Provider, connecting to Worldnet from Linux will take a little bit of work (recompilling the Linux kernel). Here are a few here a few reasons why one might want to do this bit of work.

If you have used PPP to connect to other ISP's from Linux, and pretty much know what you are doing try reading the Expert Notes below.

The Instructions

  1. If you have not already done so, activate your Worldnet account using the installation disks.

  2. If you have already succesfully installed and used PPP with other ISP's, skip to step 5.

  3. Get a copy of ppp-2.1.2d.tar if your kernel is version 1.2.x, or ppp-2.2.0f.tar for kernels >=3D 1.3.x.

  4. Follow the directions contained within the ppp package for rebuilding your kernel with PPP support and for installing pppd and chat.

  5. Get a copy of the file WORLDNET\PROGRAM\REG.INI (WORLDNET\DIALER\REG.INI for Worldnet version 1) and use the settings in the scripts below.

  6. Add the following line to the file /etc/ppp/chap-secrets=

    999999999(a)worl= dnet.att.net * "password" *

    where 9999999999= has been replace by number on the "Name" line of REG.INI and password is replaced the value on the "Password" line. The quotation marks around the password are important to protect any special characters that might appear in the password.

  7. Create, the following script, substituting the proper values for $NAME and $PHONE. I have given my script the name /usr/sbin/ppp-on. 

    #!/usr/bin/perl
#
# Script to establish connection from a Linux system to worldnet via PPP.
#
# Look at WORLDNET\PROGRAM\REG.INI(WORLDNET\DIALER\REG.INI and ATT.SR=20
# under Worldnet version 1)to get the following settings
#
$DOMAIN=3D"worldnet.att.net";	    =20
$SEARCH=3D$DOMAIN;
$NAMESERVER1=3D"204.127.160.1";	   =20
$NAMESERVER2=3D"204.127.129.1";	   =20
$NAMESERVER3=3D"204.127.129.2";	   =20
$NAME=3D"999999999\@worldnet.att.net";
$PHONE=3D"6213400"; # Cambridge, MA  =20
$MODEM=3D"/dev/modem";

$resolv =3D '>/etc/resolv.conf';

open(CONF,$resolv)|| die "Cannot open file: $resolv.\n  $! \n";

print CONF "\#resolv.conf - created automatically by ".$ARGV[0]."\n";
print CONF "domain ".$DOMAIN."\n";
print CONF "search ".$SEARCH."\n";
print CONF "nameserver ".$NAMESERVER1."\n";
print CONF "nameserver ".$NAMESERVER2."\n";
print CONF "nameserver ".$NAMESERVER3."\n";

$command=3D"/usr/sbin/pppd name \"".$NAME."\"".
    " -d connect \'/usr/sbin/chat -t 45 -v ABORT BUSY \"\" ATDT".
    $PHONE." CONNECT \"\"\' ".$MODEM.
    " 57600 noipdefault modem defaultroute crtscts";
$ENV{'PATH'} =3D ''; # Make $ENV{'PATH'} untainted
system($command);

    Executing this script should then startup up a connection to worldnet. Give the script a permission of 4755 (chmod 4755 /usr/sbin/ppp-on) if you want to be able to startup the internet connection from accounts other than root.

    This script is a bit fancy in that it writes to the file /etc/reso= lv.conf the domain name and the nameserver numbers. This can be handy if you have several similar scripts for different ISP's, each of which has its own domain name and nameservers. If perl is not available, or you want a simpler script, edit /etc/resolv.conf to contain 

    domain worldnet.att.net
nameserver 204.127.160.1
nameserver 204.127.129.1
nameserver 204.127.129.2

    and use the following the following script startup PPP (replacing the login name and phone number with appropriate values.) 

    /usr/sbin/pppd name "99999999=
9(a)worldnet.att.net" -d connect \
	'/usr/sbin/chat -t 45 -v ABORT BUSY "" ATDT1111111 CONNECT ""' \
	/dev/modem 57600 noipdefault modem defaultroute crtscts=20

  8. Optionally, one may optionally add a script to disconect ppp. The following is an example of /usr/sbin/ppp-off= 

    #!/bin/sh
# ppp-down - simply kills the ppp-daemon
kill `ps -a | grep pppd | grep -v grep | cut -b 1-6`=20

Mail and News

The values of NNTP_HOST, SMTP_HOST, POP_SERVER, POP_PASSWORD, and EMAIL_ADDR can be extracted from WORLDNET\PROGRAM\REG.INI and used in whatever pop-mail and news software you choose. The Linux version Netscape 2.0 or Netscape 3.0 handle both mail and news fine.

Ed Kelley's A Visual Guide to configuring Netscape 3.0 under Windows 95 may provide some guidance towards setting up Netscape 3.0 under Linux.

PPP utilities and References

A number of PPP utilities are available to enhance the use of PPP on Linux. For example, I use tkppp to give a convenient GUI to start and stop my Worldnet connection as well as to keep track of hours of usage.

Additional information on networking and PPP under Linux can be found in The Linux Network Administrators' Guide and the Linux PPP HOWTO.

The newsgroups linux.dev.ppp= and comp.os.l= inux.networking can also be useful.

Expert notes

If you are already using PPP to other ISP's there are essentially just two possibly new things that need to be done. First, since Worldnet uses CHAP, you must put your username and password (as found in REG.INI) into the file /etc/ppp/cha= p-secrets like so: 999999999(a)worldnet.att.net * "password" *

Secondly, the chat script should only go as far as getting the phone dialed in. CHAP will take care of passing username and password. For example: 

usr/sbin/pppd name "999999999(a)world=
net.att.net" -d connect=20
'/usr/sbin/chat -t 45 -v ABORT BUSY "" ATDTthephonenumber CONNECT ""' \
/dev/modem 57600 noipdefault debug modem defaultroute crtscts=20

Additional Notes

Some people connecting to Worldnet with Linux report that it is necessary to add the flag +chap to the pppd command line. However, in most cases, things will not work at all if this flag is used

Last Update 22 September 1996 =20

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--===============8873316256780485468==-- From deem@wdm.com Wed Apr 1 07:37:51 1998 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] [Fwd: apsfilter problem] Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:37:51 -0900 Message-ID: <199804010737.WAA00853@wdm.com> In-Reply-To: <3521C3B5.3AE1C92C@ntd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5838002084393812661==" --===============5838002084393812661== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Dana J. Laude" wrote: > > I have the same problem. With RH 5.0 I had NO problems with my > printer. S.u.S.E. 5.0 is another story. I can print from StarOffice > 4.0 fine, anything else..., forget it. I have a TI MicroWriter which > is HP IIp compatible btw. > > Dana > Hmmm....I have a SuSE 5.1 loaded, with Applixware and Soffice4.0, and NEdit 5.0, as well as others apps to print from. With the setup option in YaST, it works perfectly. I have a HP OfficeJet printer. I use LP1 and all works great. I have loaded SuSE 5.0 & 5.1 on this box, and every time it prints just fine. Regards -Dee W.D.McKinney (Dee) -=- deem(a)wdm.com No claim to fame, just saved by Grace. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============5838002084393812661==-- From pbleser@prov-liege.be Wed Apr 1 07:58:55 1998 From: pbleser@prov-liege.be To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Win 32 & Linux Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 09:58:55 +0200 Message-ID: <01bd5d44$04ee7e60$36320a0a@rubis.inpres.epl.prov-liege.be> In-Reply-To: <[S.u.S.E. Linux] Win 32 & Linux> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1947487539857020934==" --===============1947487539857020934== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's the right attitude ! I agree with most of your arguments to beat m$... Really, a Win32 API on Linux could be a *major* chance to really crush m$ on the commercial level, but it certainly is a _lot_ of work to implement all that stuff, although it certainly is possible... Linux is such a great system to work on: no bugs, no reboots, fast as light, the very powerful shell command line, ... ... ... But, in my opinion, a major argument against Linux (but is it really ?) is that the user (let's talk about administrators straightaway, because Linux is best as a server anyway) has to have a certain knowledge of the system (processes, users, filesystems, IPC, ...), which I think most of the "administrators" don't have (that's the only way I can explain the success of NT - just click, click over here and click, click over there: it _is_ easy and "intuitive", but if you want to set up your system *as you wish*, you notice that you just can't change anything, compared to Linux). I'm a student and I'm currently making my end-of-study work in the school (Oracle Designer/2000, NT :-( ), and I'm "teaching" Linux to some interested students in the evening... Some of them don't know anything about UNIX-like systems, so I had to start with 0... Well, that's the time where you see that, maybe, it isn't that easy to understand Linux ;-) but, hey, I said "administrator" ! Is it really asking too much to have administrators who are capable of setting up Linux ?? It really isn't *that* hard, once you understand some basic things... Am I right or am I right ? ;-) bye ! Pascal P.S.: If you want some help with SaMBa, I have some experience with it (and its troubleshooting ;-) and have already helped out some people with that on several mailinglists... ---snip, snip, snip---(not that it wasn't interesting, but it would get a little long ;-) > > Steve, > >I understand your point of view. You just don't want to have anything to do with >MS-Bill. I see a place in my paradigm where folks like you could be fully >satisfied with the same base Linux running on your preferred platform, while those >who wanted to emulate Win32 could add that functionality to their Linux x86 >systems. I have been working as a sysadmin for five years now. I remember when >NT was in beta. I have watched it become a dominant market player. One of the >most effective selling points of NT/95 has been the ability to do everything that >a Novell server or client could do, and then some. Microsoft has produced some >decent products. (Word is not one of these, BTW. ) Right now they are crushing >Netscape's browser development by dumping IE on the market. That yanks my chain >big time! Part of the reason that MS can do this is because of their virtual >stranglehold on the intel OS market. If they could not sell NT at $250 per >workstation and 95 at $100 per workstation, if there were a Linux alternative to >NT/95, MS would have to compete more equally in the marketplace when it comes to >other software products. > >Now consider what happens when Joe administrator sets up his Linux system to run >MS-SQL server. If MS-SQL server works well and does everything a Unix based SQL >server can do, then Bill gets to keep the business. If, on the other hand, MS-SQL >can't hang with another product, perhaps a freeware product, Bill looses the >market share. People who transition to Linux because they can get it for much >less, and can still use their MS investments, will then be free to move between >Win32 based products and UNIX based products. > >It is also likely that software producers would be more willing to compile >software for other CPUs that don't run NT, but can handle Win32 calls through >Linux. There would be no need to port the code to UNIX style calls. All of a >sudden, people are using a Win32 API on a non-intel platform, and Bill isn't >getting a cut either. > >The Linx/UNIX user who doesn't want to participate in this simply doesn't load the >Win32 emulator on his system. He uses pure Linux software, and keeps a clear >conscience. > >I guess what I am trying to say is that one of the best ways to break down the >MS proprietary fortress is to emulate MS OSs. I truly believe that Linux/UNIX can >"do that too". > >Remember when people were saying that the reason MS-DOS was so successful was >because it would run on open system architecture. IBM made a killing on this >strategy for a while and then found that is had created its own major >competition? Well, its about time there was an open systems operating system >that could stand up to MS proprietary products. > > >Mathematica: I love it! I have not yet tried it on Linux. I have run it on DOS, >95, and NT. See: www.wri.com > >NT = MS-UNIX? I would not say that. I am not as knowledgeable about the core >UNIX architecture as I am of NT's architecture. There are some major differences >at the user interface level that I can speak authoritatively about. First off, >that stuff about POSIX compliance? I work in a Major DoD lab, and nobody talks >about POSIX. UNIX products run on UNIX systems and Win32 products run on NT/95 >systems. The NT/DOS scripting language doesn't hold a candle to UNIX shells. The >registry makes basic system administration easier, but puts many restrictions on >what you can do with a system. NT seems to me to be slower in every respect than >UNIX. I also have far more problems with Dr. Watsons than I do with core dumps. >As a workstation I have little trouble with NT other than the fact that it seems >to take twice as long to load things as it does on Linux. I installed suse a week >or so ago. At first I figured that it was going to be a clunky curiosity that I >would play with a bit here and there, while my real work would be done on NT. I >haven't booted into NT in days except to retrieve files. I am thinking of buying >a new system. Before I tried suse, I was debating between NT and Solaris x86. >(which I do like, but has few applications which run on it.) Now I am almost sure >that I will put suse on my new system. (if it will run on the dual Pentium II 333 >Asus MB). I then want to set up Samba and network with my current NT system. > >Steve > >-- >"Alles Vergaengliche >Ist nur ein Gleichniss" >-Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. > > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============1947487539857020934==-- From pbleser@prov-liege.be Wed Apr 1 09:04:51 1998 From: pbleser@prov-liege.be To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How to set a different WM? Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 11:04:51 +0200 Message-ID: <01bd5d4d$3ae541d0$36320a0a@rubis.inpres.epl.prov-liege.be> In-Reply-To: <[S.u.S.E. Linux] How to set a different WM?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1025766662174711841==" --===============1025766662174711841== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The better way is to have a new environment setting, let's call it "WINM" (don't use "WINDOWMANAGER", it's already used by some system scripts and will confuse some of them)... You just need to add a line to /etc/profile, like this: ... export WINM=kde ... (and don't forget "export") Every user can customize this setting in his very own ~/.profile Now, you just need to change the /usr/X11/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc script... I attached mine, that works with kde, fvwm2, fvwm, afterstep and twm, but it's very easy to extend (even if you're not used to shell scripts)... I even made a little script called "x", which provides you with a menu (using dialog) with the different windowmanagers... you choose one, and the script sets WINM="afterstep", for example, and then makes "startx"... I have to retrieve it from my very own Linux box, which is on another network (and there's no communication between 'em... so, if have to go upstairs ;-) - I'll send it this afternoon, ok ? Pascal l'irréductible Linuxien P.S.: don't forget to do some environment settings: in /etc/profile, add the lines: export KDEDIR=/opt/kde export PATH=$PATH:$KDEDIR/bin export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:$KDEDIR/lib -----Original Message----- From: alexser(a)idt.net To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: mercredi 1 avril 1998 07:19 Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How to set a different WM? Hi! I am a new user of Linux and S.u.S.E having just installed it yesterday. Now I am trying to find a way to change the default Window Manager to KDE. Could someone tell me which file should be changed and how? Also what should be done when I want to upgrade the version of KDE to a new one? Thank you in advance for your help. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e 
#!/bin/sh
# $XConsortium: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.4 91/08/22 11:41:34 rws Exp $

userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xresources
sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xmodmap

# merge in defaults and keymaps

if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
    xrdb -merge $sysresources
fi

if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
    xmodmap $sysmodmap
fi

if [ -f $userresources ]; then
    xrdb -merge $userresources
fi

if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
    xmodmap $usermodmap
fi

# start some nice programs

# xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 &
# xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 &
# xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 &

if [ -n "$WINM" ];
then	case "$WINM" in
		kde) exec startkde;;
		fvwm2) exec fvwm2;;
		fbwm) exec fvwm;;
		afterstep) exec afterstep;;
		*) exec twm
	esac
else	exec twm
fi


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From alfiesty@chaffee.net Wed Apr  1 10:30:49 1998
From: alfiesty@chaffee.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 03:30:49 -0700
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980401033049.007e7590@chaffee.net>
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I am trying to use superx, available on "www.winsite.com"
to connect my Win95 box in the house with the linux box
in the shop. When it loads it goes out and finds the Linux
box but returns a message 
"Fatal Server error :unknown host:192.168.1.254"
now this is the IP address I gave SuSe during installation
and I can telnet and ping to this number. Do I need a port 
number? Which one? Sure like to be able to work in the
house, its ~30 Meters to the shop and we are still seeing
5 degrees (F) at nite around here.
Jim
PS Love the group!!


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From srr03@tid.es Wed Apr  1 12:18:08 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] jdk115 for linux
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 14:18:08 +0200
Message-ID: <35223080.80B6DB19@tid.es>
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  Has anyone tried to install the jdk115 for linux in SuSE linx 5.1?
I downloaded the rpm version, and I receive an error like this:
dependencies failed:
needed ld_linux.so.2
needed libc.so.6
needed lidl.so.2
needed libm.so.6
SuSE 5.1 is almost the last SuSE distribution, isn't it? How is it
posible to need new libraries? By the way, I haven't found the
libc.so.6. Only 5.
Any sugestions?


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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Wed Apr  1 13:31:19 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] trouble with majordomo on S.u.S.E. 5.0
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:31:19 +0200
Message-ID: <01bd5d72$742b6da0$36320a0a@rubis.inpres.epl.prov-liege.be>
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hello everybody !

I'd like to install majordomo to have mailing-lists on our LAN (70 hosts),
and I installed the mdomo.rpm package (I have S.u.S.E. 5.0 - changing to 5.2
on Saturday :-), read the manpage, and started to set things up (in
/etc/aliases, I guess that's right).
Now, when I start "wrapper config-test", I have some errors (access
problems)... I changed it by making a "system" group, which includes the
user "mdomo", and which can write in /usr, /usr/lib, etc...
When I mail to Majordomo(a)tabatha (that's the Linux server), I get an error
from the mail handler: unknown account...
Did I forget something ?
(btw: maybe I still have access problems to some directories, but I should
at least get an error from Majordomo, shouldn't I ?)

thanX for your help...

Pascal
 l'irréductible Linuxien

---hardcore-joke---don't-read-this-if-your-English---
m$ asked the Royal Family (of GB, of course) to call its windoze 98 "Windows
Diana", because: it's superficially attractive, it consumpts much
ressources, and it crashes badly...

p.s.: don't take this personally, please... it's just a joke


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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Wed Apr  1 13:33:22 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:33:22 +0200
Message-ID: <01bd5d72$bd7ca780$36320a0a@rubis.inpres.epl.prov-liege.be>
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I posted a mail like this last week, but I had a problem with my mailbox,
and maybe I missed an answer...

What about S.u.S.E. and glibc2 ?
I guess that S.u.S.E. 5.2 still relies on libc5, so what are the plans for
the future ?
I'm tired of "red hat this, red hat that..."
;-)

Pascal
 l'irréductible Linuxien


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From srr03@tid.es Wed Apr  1 14:26:48 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] copy files
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 16:26:48 +0200
Message-ID: <35224EA8.C7441D2F@tid.es>
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Hi!
Is it necessary to copy with 'mcopy' from a DOS partition to a ext2
partition? When I unzip (with gzip -d) a file from de dos partition,
there's no problem. When I do the same with the file copied to the ext2
partition (with 'cp') I receive an error about the crc.
Never had that problem.
Bye.


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From mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com Wed Apr  1 14:45:30 1998
From: mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] QT compilattion and link / Help please
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 07:45:30 -0700
Message-ID: <3522530A.EF8A49EE@datsit.com>
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Augusto Cardoso wrote:

> The QT library components are distributed with tutorials (explanations,
> programs and Makefiles).
> I didn't succeed to compile/link any of those tutorials since their
> Makefiles seem to point to libraries not created/used by the SuSE
> distribution.
> Could anyone tell me the right libraries to where they should point ?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
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Get the rpm files from suse's ftp site.  use yast to install them.  no
headaches!!!

mc


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From mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com Wed Apr  1 14:48:10 1998
From: mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How to set a different WM?
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 07:48:10 -0700
Message-ID: <352253A9.9DD247DB@datsit.com>
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alexser(a)idt.net wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I am a new user of Linux and S.u.S.E having just installed it
> yesterday. Now I am trying to find a way to change the default Window
> Manager to KDE. Could someone tell me which file should be changed
> and how? Also what should be done when I want to upgrade the version
> of KDE to a new one?
>
> Thank you in advance for your help.
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in the home directory of the user you want to use KDE, there should be a
file .xinitrc (create it if there is not one)

put in the line:

exec startkde

that's all there is to it

mc


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From zentara@mindspring.com Wed Apr  1 15:47:39 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Faxing
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 10:47:39 -0500
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Tony Paulic wrote:
> 
> Any hints on sending and receiving faxes. I have StarOffice installed
> and would like to be able to fax out documents from there. Receiving
> would also be nice, but not as important. thanks.
> 
> <>
> 
>
Hi, I can point you to some good docs on it.
Go to /usr/info/mgetty.info-1.gz ( actually 1 thru 4).
It explains faxing pretty clearly.

zentara


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From lach@lach.net Wed Apr  1 16:37:00 1998
From: lach@lach.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] [OFFTOPIC] Implementing a touch screen under Linux
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 17:37:00 +0100
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Hello list,

I am starting to look into the development of a touch screen application under
Linux.  It would be text based.  I am posting the list to see if anyone has
already done it!!

Would GPM the console mouse driver be a good place to start??  The touch scre=
en
input would come in via a serial port.

Thanks

Lach


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From srr03@tid.es Wed Apr  1 16:57:40 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] jdk115 for linux
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 18:57:40 +0200
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  Has anyone tried to install the jdk115 for linux in SuSE linx 5.1?
I downloaded the rpm version, and I receive an error like this:
dependencies failed:
needed ld_linux.so.2
needed libc.so.6
needed lidl.so.2
needed libm.so.6
SuSE 5.1 is almost the last SuSE distribution, isn't it? How is it
posible to need new libraries? By the way, I haven't found the
libc.so.6. Only 5.
Any sugestions?


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From billmadsen@worldnet.att.net Wed Apr  1 17:08:46 1998
From: billmadsen@worldnet.att.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] chat file to connect with ATT Worldnet?
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 17:08:46 +0000
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On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:23:34 -0500 (EST), you wrote:

>Bill, etal
>Here is a copy of my ppp script (/usr/sbin/ppp-on - it has also been
>called ppp-worldnet!!). I have also attached the html page that all of
>this came from - courtesy of ATT. - some good notes.
>Special thanks to Stephen A. Wood - I tried to contact him at ATT a
>while ago, but no such luck!! As far as I'm concerned, he deserves a
>big thank you.
>
A big thank you to dedwards also.  Worked like a charm.

Bill Madsen in St. Louis


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From viktor@albatros.sch.bme.hu Wed Apr  1 19:22:21 1998
From: viktor@albatros.sch.bme.hu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] jdk115 for linux
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 21:22:21 +0200
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On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Santi wrote:

> 
>   Has anyone tried to install the jdk115 for linux in SuSE linx 5.1?
> I downloaded the rpm version, and I receive an error like this:
> dependencies failed:
> needed ld_linux.so.2
> needed libc.so.6
> needed lidl.so.2
> needed libm.so.6
> SuSE 5.1 is almost the last SuSE distribution, isn't it? How is it
> posible to need new libraries? By the way, I haven't found the
> libc.so.6. Only 5.
> Any sugestions?

It seems that this package contains binaries compiled using glibc or
libc6. You can either get libc6, or get the libc5 version of this package,
or get the sources and compile it yourself.

Viktor


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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Wed Apr  1 19:53:37 1998
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printer messed up!
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 21:53:37 +0200
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Hi all!;

Steve and I have been working on the apsfilter. But now I have another
problem that has me dead in the water.

I tried to print a one page picture file. I did it wrong and Lpr started
to dump the raw file to the printer (i.e. 10101 etc). It is around 60
pages long. So I tryed the remove command, nothing. Then I checked with
the lpq command the que was empty. I logout, then did init, and at last a
reboot. Nothing stops my printer! Right now I have it turned off, but I'm
still getting error reports to /var/log/messages. 

How do I get the SOB to stop?

Thanks for your help.

JIM

-----------------------------------------
Jim Hatridge
Germany 
hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de

M$ -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future!
(*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!)

___________ News Flash! -------------- News Flash! ___________________

Yesterday, a ferry boat leaving Haiti sunk and 300 people died, drowned,
as the boat capsized. But a tragedy was avoided when they discovered that
none of them on board was a Princess. 
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From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr  1 21:27:44 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:27:44 -0600
Message-ID: <3522B150.EA293186@nfinity.com>
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SuSE 6.0 will be glibc based.  Go try redhat 5.  It is horribly broken.  I
used it for three weeks, and I just couldn't take anymore.  I am not slamming
redhat,  just saying that perhaps in being the first glibc based dist out the
door they released a dist that simply wasn't ready for the public.  The
quality of SuSE continues to impress me daily, and this after 4 months of
use.  I have every confidence that when SuSE 6.0 does ship, it will be a
better product than either of the other 2 glibc based dists that will be
available at that time.
SuSE rocks.

Pascal Bleser wrote:

> I posted a mail like this last week, but I had a problem with my mailbox,
> and maybe I missed an answer...
>
> What about S.u.S.E. and glibc2 ?
> I guess that S.u.S.E. 5.2 still relies on libc5, so what are the plans for
> the future ?
> I'm tired of "red hat this, red hat that..."
> ;-)
>
> Pascal
>  l'irréductible Linuxien
>
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From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr  1 21:30:56 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printer messed up!
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:30:56 -0600
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man lprm

Jim Hatridge wrote:

> Hi all!;
>
> Steve and I have been working on the apsfilter. But now I have another
> problem that has me dead in the water.
>
> I tried to print a one page picture file. I did it wrong and Lpr started
> to dump the raw file to the printer (i.e. 10101 etc). It is around 60
> pages long. So I tryed the remove command, nothing. Then I checked with
> the lpq command the que was empty. I logout, then did init, and at last a
> reboot. Nothing stops my printer! Right now I have it turned off, but I'm
> still getting error reports to /var/log/messages.
>
> How do I get the SOB to stop?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> JIM
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Jim Hatridge
> Germany
> hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de
>
> M$ -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future!
> (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!)
>
> ___________ News Flash! -------------- News Flash! ___________________
>
> Yesterday, a ferry boat leaving Haiti sunk and 300 people died, drowned,
> as the boat capsized. But a tragedy was avoided when they discovered that
> none of them on board was a Princess.
>                                         --- Harlan Ellison, InterZone
>
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From alfiesty@chaffee.net Wed Apr  1 21:42:24 1998
From: alfiesty@chaffee.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 14:42:24 -0700
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980401144224.007ef880@chaffee.net>
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At 10:09 PM 4/2/98 +0200, you wrote:
>
>P.S.: where can I find it ? I took a look at www.winsite.com, but I didn't
>find it... am I stupid or what ? ;-)
>
www.winsite.com			click on search
next screen     type in superx for the query
gets you
http://www.winsite.com/cg=
i-bin/winq?query=3Dsuperx>&whole=3Don&platform=3D0

Jim
PS yes it is an xserver for windoze95


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From djb@redhat.com Wed Apr  1 21:47:27 1998
From: djb@redhat.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 16:47:27 -0500
Message-ID: <199804012147.QAA02379@chef.redhat.com>
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> SuSE 6.0 will be glibc based.  Go try redhat 5.  It is horribly broken.  I
> used it for three weeks, and I just couldn't take anymore.  I am not slammi=
ng
> redhat,  just saying that perhaps in being the first glibc based dist out t=
he
> door they released a dist that simply wasn't ready for the public.  The
> quality of SuSE continues to impress me daily, and this after 4 months of
> use.  I have every confidence that when SuSE 6.0 does ship, it will be a
> better product than either of the other 2 glibc based dists that will be
> available at that time.
> SuSE rocks.

I'm not going to make this an OS war, but 5.0 is not horribly broken.  Yes,
there are updates that you need, but we've got plenty of 5.0 machines
around here pulling some heavy load with no problems. =20

The first public release of *any* OS with that radical of a change is
going to have problems.  All known problems of noticeable magnitude have
been fixed, however.

I'm sure SuSE 6.0 will be better than RH 5.0 in terms of stability.  But
they have *us* to thank for that...whoever did it first was going to face
some problems.  We did it and we aren't sorry for that.

--Donnie


--
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  "Bah."
   Challenge Diversity.  Ignore People.  Live Life.  Use Linux.  879.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr  1 22:11:11 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 16:11:11 -0600
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My post wasn't an attack on redhat, merely the observations of a former redha=
t 5
user.  Looking at your host mask I understand why you feel the need to defend
redhat,  but don't be so defensive.  If you have read any of my previous post=
s you
would know that I believe we all benefit by having several quality dists to c=
hoose
from.  I love SuSE, hence I subscribe to this mailing list to offer and recie=
ve
help related to this outstanding distribution, and as a general source of
information I might not get otherwise.  I was careful to mention that I wasn't
attacking redhat.  The last thing this mailing list needs is a flame war.

Donnie Barnes wrote:

> > SuSE 6.0 will be glibc based.  Go try redhat 5.  It is horribly broken.  I
> > used it for three weeks, and I just couldn't take anymore.  I am not slam=
ming
> > redhat,  just saying that perhaps in being the first glibc based dist out=
 the
> > door they released a dist that simply wasn't ready for the public.  The
> > quality of SuSE continues to impress me daily, and this after 4 months of
> > use.  I have every confidence that when SuSE 6.0 does ship, it will be a
> > better product than either of the other 2 glibc based dists that will be
> > available at that time.
> > SuSE rocks.
>
> I'm not going to make this an OS war, but 5.0 is not horribly broken.  Yes,
> there are updates that you need, but we've got plenty of 5.0 machines
> around here pulling some heavy load with no problems.
>
> The first public release of *any* OS with that radical of a change is
> going to have problems.  All known problems of noticeable magnitude have
> been fixed, however.
>
> I'm sure SuSE 6.0 will be better than RH 5.0 in terms of stability.  But
> they have *us* to thank for that...whoever did it first was going to face
> some problems.  We did it and we aren't sorry for that.
>
> --Donnie
>
> --
>  Donnie Barnes    http://www.redhat.com/~djb>    djb(a)redhat.co=
m   "Bah."
>    Challenge Diversity.  Ignore People.  Live Life.  Use Linux.  879.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> _Things You'd NEVER Expect A Southerner To Say_ by Vic Henley:
> **  No kids in the back of the truck!
>
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From chad@diac.com Wed Apr  1 22:17:33 1998
From: chad@diac.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:17:33 -0700
Message-ID: <199804012212.WAA28742@november.diac.com>
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When is SuSE 6.0 planned to be released?  Im currently
trying to decide whether to run Debian-2.0 or SuSE can someone
gimme some info on why I should choose SuSE?

At 03:27 PM 4/1/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>SuSE 6.0 will be glibc based.  Go try redhat 5.  It is horribly broken.  I
>used it for three weeks, and I just couldn't take anymore.  I am not slamming
>redhat,  just saying that perhaps in being the first glibc based dist out the
>door they released a dist that simply wasn't ready for the public.  The
>quality of SuSE continues to impress me daily, and this after 4 months of
>use.  I have every confidence that when SuSE 6.0 does ship, it will be a
>better product than either of the other 2 glibc based dists that will be
>available at that time.
>SuSE rocks.
>
>Pascal Bleser wrote:
>
>> I posted a mail like this last week, but I had a problem with my mailbox,
>> and maybe I missed an answer...
>>
>> What about S.u.S.E. and glibc2 ?
>> I guess that S.u.S.E. 5.2 still relies on libc5, so what are the plans for
>> the future ?
>> I'm tired of "red hat this, red hat that..."
>> ;-)
>>
>> Pascal
>>  l'irréductible Linuxien
>>
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From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr  1 22:43:28 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 16:43:28 -0600
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I believe Bodo said this summer, and there will also be an Alpha version for =
the
first time too.
Again,  it wasn't my intention to attack redhat earlier.  They are to be
applauded for providing Alpha and Sparc versions of their distribution.  The
linux world would be much poorer without redhat's prescence.

Chad - DIAC wrote:

> When is SuSE 6.0 planned to be released?  Im currently
> trying to decide whether to run Debian-2.0 or SuSE can someone
> gimme some info on why I should choose SuSE?
>
> At 03:27 PM 4/1/98 -0600, you wrote:
> >
> >SuSE 6.0 will be glibc based.  Go try redhat 5.  It is horribly broken.  I
> >used it for three weeks, and I just couldn't take anymore.  I am not slamm=
ing
> >redhat,  just saying that perhaps in being the first glibc based dist out =
the
> >door they released a dist that simply wasn't ready for the public.  The
> >quality of SuSE continues to impress me daily, and this after 4 months of
> >use.  I have every confidence that when SuSE 6.0 does ship, it will be a
> >better product than either of the other 2 glibc based dists that will be
> >available at that time.
> >SuSE rocks.
> >
> >Pascal Bleser wrote:
> >
> >> I posted a mail like this last week, but I had a problem with my mailbox,
> >> and maybe I missed an answer...
> >>
> >> What about S.u.S.E. and glibc2 ?
> >> I guess that S.u.S.E. 5.2 still relies on libc5, so what are the plans f=
or
> >> the future ?
> >> I'm tired of "red hat this, red hat that..."
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> Pascal
> >>  l'irr=C3=A9ductible Linuxien
> >>
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From djb@redhat.com Wed Apr  1 23:00:39 1998
From: djb@redhat.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 18:00:39 -0500
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> My post wasn't an attack on redhat, merely the observations of a former red=
hat 5
> user.  Looking at your host mask I understand why you feel the need to defe=
nd
> redhat,  but don't be so defensive.  If you have read any of my previous po=
sts you
> would know that I believe we all benefit by having several quality dists to=
 choose
> from.  I love SuSE, hence I subscribe to this mailing list to offer and rec=
ieve
> help related to this outstanding distribution, and as a general source of
> information I might not get otherwise.  I was careful to mention that I was=
n't
> attacking redhat.  The last thing this mailing list needs is a flame war.

I wasn't intending to be very defensive, just point out some facts. =20

You said that perhaps it wasn't ready for the public.  Well, in the Linux
community the public are the beta testers.  That's just the way this model
works.  With something like glibc there is *no* way to test it without
building a complete distribution on it.  We certainly did do some pretty
exhaustive testing on our own (including four public betas) and then we=20
had to release.  It's only after a real release that you get a full=20
compliment of testing. =20

Basically, my point is that you said it wasn't "ready for the public".
That's just not right...at some point it has to go out.  Look at the
Linux 2.0.0 kernel for a prime example...Linus did everything humanly
possible, but you just don't get the kind of testing you need until
*everyone* tries it.  Like the kernel, we have updates to fix the=20
problems and now 5.0 *is* ready for the public.  5.1 will be even better.

I'm not upset by what you said, I just wish folks would qualify things
a bit more...you made it look like we did a poor job with 5.0.  I don't
feel we did even though I do agree there were problems that we would=20
have rather fixed before they went out.  But you don't know about them
until mass testing happens.

Note that I'm not comparing RH with SuSE in any of this.  There is no=20
need to...SuSE certainly does some very good work in the free software
community and we at Red Hat appreciate it.  I just didn't like the
characterization of Red Hat.  Trust me, we're all still friends here.
This is Linux and the only way we'll beat our real enemy is by working
together.

--Donnie


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From jkrough@mindspring.com Wed Apr  1 23:22:27 1998
From: jkrough@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printer messed up!
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 17:22:27 -0600
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You might try unpluging the printer's power cord to see if that will clear the
printer's memory.  I had a similar problem and it may be that you just have to
let the print job run it's course.

Jerome K.

Michael Lankton wrote:

> man lprm
>

The que is empty so lprm isn't going to do you much good.

> Jim Hatridge wrote:
>
> > Hi all!;
> >
> > Steve and I have been working on the apsfilter. But now I have another
> > problem that has me dead in the water.
> >
> > I tried to print a one page picture file. I did it wrong and Lpr started
> > to dump the raw file to the printer (i.e. 10101 etc). It is around 60
> > pages long. So I tryed the remove command, nothing. Then I checked with
> > the lpq command the que was empty. I logout, then did init, and at last a
> > reboot. Nothing stops my printer! Right now I have it turned off, but I'm
> > still getting error reports to /var/log/messages.
> >
> > How do I get the SOB to stop?
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > JIM
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Jim Hatridge
> > Germany
> > hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de
> >
> > M$ -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future!
> > (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!)
> >
> > ___________ News Flash! -------------- News Flash! ___________________
> >
> > Yesterday, a ferry boat leaving Haiti sunk and 300 people died, drowned,
> > as the boat capsized. But a tragedy was avoided when they discovered that
> > none of them on board was a Princess.
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From lsayre@en.com Thu Apr  2 00:06:14 1998
From: lsayre@en.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 19:06:14 -0500
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When is SuSE 6.0 slated for general release?

Michael Lankton wrote:

> SuSE 6.0 will be glibc based.  Go try redhat 5.  It is horribly broken.  I
> used it for three weeks, and I just couldn't take anymore.  I am not slammi=
ng
> redhat,  just saying that perhaps in being the first glibc based dist out t=
he
> door they released a dist that simply wasn't ready for the public.  The
> quality of SuSE continues to impress me daily, and this after 4 months of
> use.  I have every confidence that when SuSE 6.0 does ship, it will be a
> better product than either of the other 2 glibc based dists that will be
> available at that time.
> SuSE rocks.
>
> Pascal Bleser wrote:
>
> > I posted a mail like this last week, but I had a problem with my mailbox,
> > and maybe I missed an answer...
> >
> > What about S.u.S.E. and glibc2 ?
> > I guess that S.u.S.E. 5.2 still relies on libc5, so what are the plans for
> > the future ?
> > I'm tired of "red hat this, red hat that..."
> > ;-)
> >
> > Pascal
> >  l'irr=C3=A9ductible Linuxien
> >
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From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Thu Apr  2 01:46:14 1998
From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 19:46:14 -0600
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Tony Paulic wrote:

I just tried and successfully sent an attached file.
Unfortunately, I

have little knowledge as to how this works. I installed netscape in

/usr/local/netscape and everything points there.

 

 Not sure why I have a problem sending attached files in netscape,
I don't have a problem sending attached files in Pine.  When I installed
netscape, it installed itself in /usr/local/netscape, but set the Mozilla
environment variable to /opts/netscape so I set up a link between /usr/local/=
netscape
and /opts/netscape.  Maybe that's part of the problem?

--=20
cya l8r
Leon McClatchey
mailto:leonmcclatchey(a)home=
mail.com

Party on Linux:-)

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From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Thu Apr  2 01:51:44 1998
From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] home directory ownership
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 19:51:44 -0600
Message-ID: <3522EF2F.6A37D9DD@homemail.com>
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Michael Lankton wrote:

This is odd.  Last night netscape wouldn't let
me save a file because I

didn't have permission.  I didn't have a clue, so I pulled up
rxvt,

su'ed, cd .., chown -R satan satan and chgrp -R users satan, then

netscape downloaded the file without protest.  Now I just tried
to

download a file 24 hours later and netscape said I didn't have

permission. So I pulled up rxvt and cd .. to /home, and my user

directory which should have been satan users was root root.  What
did I

screw up and how do I fix it?  Why would the ownership of my user

directory change to root without me doing so?

Thanks in advance, I'm puzzled by this.

 

Well, when I run into that problem, (I do everything on the internet out
of xfree), I just pull up the root window, go to the directory that
I am trying to save the file in and check the permissions on that directory. =

Usually, the directory is set up owner root and group root, well, I just
keep the ownerships the same (I'm a member of the group root) and enable
the write for that group.  (664:=3D)

--=20
cya l8r
Leon McClatchey
mailto:leonmcclatchey(a)home=
mail.com

Party on Linux:-)

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From james@suse.com Thu Apr  2 02:05:51 1998
From: james@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 18:05:51 -0800
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Hi, all!

We are on an 'every 4 month' release schedule, which can vary depending on
how worthwhile it is to bring out a new release. The plan is to have an
August release of 6.0 (5.3?)

Cheers!

James

=20
> When is SuSE 6.0 slated for general release?
>=20
> Michael Lankton wrote:
>=20
> > SuSE 6.0 will be glibc based.  Go try redhat 5.  It is horribly broken.  I
> > used it for three weeks, and I just couldn't take anymore.  I am not slam=
ming
> > redhat,  just saying that perhaps in being the first glibc based dist out=
 the
> > door they released a dist that simply wasn't ready for the public.  The
> > quality of SuSE continues to impress me daily, and this after 4 months of
> > use.  I have every confidence that when SuSE 6.0 does ship, it will be a
> > better product than either of the other 2 glibc based dists that will be
> > available at that time.
> > SuSE rocks.
> >
> > Pascal Bleser wrote:
> >
> > > I posted a mail like this last week, but I had a problem with my mailbo=
x,
> > > and maybe I missed an answer...
> > >
> > > What about S.u.S.E. and glibc2 ?
> > > I guess that S.u.S.E. 5.2 still relies on libc5, so what are the plans =
for
> > > the future ?
> > > I'm tired of "red hat this, red hat that..."
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > Pascal
> > >  l'irr=C3=A9ductible Linuxien
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From bb@suse.com Thu Apr  2 02:56:47 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 18:56:47 -0800
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Donnie Barnes wrote:
>=20
> > SuSE 6.0 will be glibc based.  Go try redhat 5.  It is horribly broken.  I
> > used it for three weeks, and I just couldn't take anymore.  I am not slam=
ming
> > redhat,  just saying that perhaps in being the first glibc based dist out=
 the
> > door they released a dist that simply wasn't ready for the public.  The
> > quality of SuSE continues to impress me daily, and this after 4 months of
> > use.  I have every confidence that when SuSE 6.0 does ship, it will be a
> > better product than either of the other 2 glibc based dists that will be
> > available at that time.
> > SuSE rocks.
>=20
> I'm not going to make this an OS war, but 5.0 is not horribly broken.  Yes,
> there are updates that you need, but we've got plenty of 5.0 machines
> around here pulling some heavy load with no problems.
>=20
> The first public release of *any* OS with that radical of a change is
> going to have problems.  All known problems of noticeable magnitude have
> been fixed, however.
>=20
> I'm sure SuSE 6.0 will be better than RH 5.0 in terms of stability.  But
> they have *us* to thank for that...whoever did it first was going to face
> some problems.  We did it and we aren't sorry for that.

Hi Donnie,

I think you are totaly right, and we are thankfull that RedHat made the
first step and relaesed a glibc based distribution. To find all the major=20
and minor bugs a lot of 'real' installations have to be done and systems
have to run in real world circumstances. We all know, that sending out=20
beta CDs is good, but some bugs remain still undetected until very=20
experienced or very unexperienced users try to run the system.=20

And I appreciate that you are on our mailing list. Are you going to be
in Chicago for the upcoming Comdex? It would be nice to meet you (and=20
anybody else on this list...), I'll be at our booth for the hole=20
week...

Ciao,
        BB

PS: We exspect 6.0 to be ready in mid 1998. Hopefully on Intel and=20
Alpha...

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From djb@redhat.com Thu Apr  2 03:07:30 1998
From: djb@redhat.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 22:07:30 -0500
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> And I appreciate that you are on our mailing list. Are you going to be

I'm just here trying to steal trade secrets.  :-)

> in Chicago for the upcoming Comdex? It would be nice to meet you (and=20
> anybody else on this list...), I'll be at our booth for the hole=20
> week...

Nope...Chicago is just not my kind of town.  You guys are coming to=20
LinuxExpo, aren't you?

--Donnie


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From gecko@animalink.org Thu Apr  2 04:22:31 1998
From: gecko@animalink.org
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] X11R6.4 ... costs?
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:22:31 -0800
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I don't know if it's a April Fools joke or not...  but I'd like to find out.

I heard a rumor that OpenSource took over X from the X Consortium and that it=
's=20
going to be $5K.....

Here's where I found it:

http://www.linuxhq.com/>">http://www.linuxhq.com/>

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ko/index.html>
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From mwagnon@ixpres.com Thu Apr  2 04:47:42 1998
From: mwagnon@ixpres.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] X11R6.4 ... costs?
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:47:42 -0800
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Darren wrote:
>=20
> I don't know if it's a April Fools joke or not...  but I'd like to find out.
>=20
> I heard a rumor that OpenSource took over X from the X Consortium and that =
it's
> going to be $5K.....
>=20
> Here's where I found it:
>=20
> http://www.linuxhq.com/>">http://www.linuxhq.com/>
>=20

Bummer man!

I took a look at the Open Group site. It looks like they are charging
for business who make $ with the technology, but if someone wants to
use it non-commercially, then they need to fill out a non-commercial
liscense to download it. :(

mark

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From dana@ntd.net Thu Apr  2 05:22:15 1998
From: dana@ntd.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 23:22:15 -0600
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Bodo Bauer wrote:

> And I appreciate that you are on our mailing list. Are you going to be
> in Chicago for the upcoming Comdex? It would be nice to meet you (and
> anybody else on this list...), I'll be at our booth for the hole
> week...

Will see you down there!  Reserve 1 XL t-shirt. ;-)

Dana


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From di6mika@cse.hks.se Thu Apr  2 05:44:01 1998
From: di6mika@cse.hks.se
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How to set a different WM?
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 21:44:01 -0800
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980401212503.0068930c@f_utbserv.cse.hks.se>
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At 23:14 1998-03-31 +0000, you wrote:

To begin with, don't change anything that has got to do with root. It's
better to create a user for yourself and edit your .bashrc .If you have got
the 4 cd package with everything included, the only thing you should have
to do is to put the line "export WINDOWMANAGER=3Dstartkde" in your .bashrc
and then it should work.=20

>Hi!
>
>I am a new user of Linux and S.u.S.E having just installed it=20
>yesterday. Now I am trying to find a way to change the default Window=20
>Manager to KDE. Could someone tell me which file should be changed=20
>and how? Also what should be done when I want to upgrade the version=20
>of KDE to a new one?
>
>Thank you in advance for your help.

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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Thu Apr  2 08:50:36 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:50:36 +0200
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Well, if I'm not wrong, Debian is dead (it's an argument)...

Pascal
 l'irréductible Linuxien
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From: Chad - DIAC 
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date: jeudi 2 avril 1998 01:18
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2

When is SuSE 6.0 planned to be released?  Im currently
trying to decide whether to run Debian-2.0 or SuSE can someone
gimme some info on why I should choose SuSE?

At 03:27 PM 4/1/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>SuSE 6.0 will be glibc based.  Go try redhat 5.  It is horribly broken.  I
>used it for three weeks, and I just couldn't take anymore.  I am not
slamming
>redhat,  just saying that perhaps in being the first glibc based dist out
the
>door they released a dist that simply wasn't ready for the public.  The
>quality of SuSE continues to impress me daily, and this after 4 months of
>use.  I have every confidence that when SuSE 6.0 does ship, it will be a
>better product than either of the other 2 glibc based dists that will be
>available at that time.
>SuSE rocks.
>
>Pascal Bleser wrote:
>
>> I posted a mail like this last week, but I had a problem with my mailbox,
>> and maybe I missed an answer...
>>
>> What about S.u.S.E. and glibc2 ?
>> I guess that S.u.S.E. 5.2 still relies on libc5, so what are the plans
for
>> the future ?
>> I'm tired of "red hat this, red hat that..."
>> ;-)
>>
>> Pascal
>>  l'irréductible Linuxien
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From michael.zimmermann@halifax.rwth-aachen.de Thu Apr  2 12:12:22 1998
From: michael.zimmermann@halifax.rwth-aachen.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Faxing
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 14:12:22 +0200
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Tony Paulic wrote:
> 
> Any hints on sending and receiving faxes. I have StarOffice installed
> and would like to be able to fax out documents from there. Receiving
> would also be nice, but not as important. thanks.

Get a look at Hylafax, works fine.

Bye, Michael

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From lavoie@netcom.ca Thu Apr  2 12:12:38 1998
From: lavoie@netcom.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 07:12:38 -0500
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I downloaded PPPWizard as well, but I don't know what to do with the files.
 Many of the are in the for *.cc
Does that mean they have to be compiled?  How do I do it?

At 19:15 98-03-31 PST, you wrote:
>
>oops. it moved. I found it in=20
>
>ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/systems/linux/suns=
ite/system/network/seria>
l/ppp/
>
>called pppsetup-1.98.tar.gz
>
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From xerxes1@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr  2 14:07:24 1998
From: xerxes1@ix.netcom.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Linux powered POS
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:07:24 -0500
Message-ID: <35239B9C.4E66B6AD@ix.netcom.com>
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Hi All,

Is anyone doing any POS work with SUSE?  What's your experience? 
Thanks.

Andy Galerneau

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From srr03@tid.es Thu Apr  2 14:33:51 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 16:33:51 +0200
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  Of course:

  You should write '-display 192.168.1.254:0'. At least, that's how it
works Exceed for w95.
I suppose that can be change or configurable. Try it. Good luck.

            Santi

Jim Hodgers wrote:

> I am trying to use superx, available on "www.winsite.com"
> to connect my Win95 box in the house with the linux box
> in the shop. When it loads it goes out and finds the Linux
> box but returns a message
> "Fatal Server error :unknown host:192.168.1.254"
> now this is the IP address I gave SuSe during installation
> and I can telnet and ping to this number. Do I need a port
> number? Which one? Sure like to be able to work in the
> house, its ~30 Meters to the shop and we are still seeing
> 5 degrees (F) at nite around here.
> Jim
> PS Love the group!!
>
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From srr03@tid.es Thu Apr  2 15:04:29 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NE2000 compatible PCI
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:04:29 +0200
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  Hi.
  Does anyone knows if there is any problem about the net cards that are
compatibles with NE2000 (clones) and are PCI?
Thanks.

            Santi


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From Jukka.Leino@a-lehdet.fi Thu Apr  2 15:25:11 1998
From: Jukka.Leino@a-lehdet.fi
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] does 5.2 support mca yet
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:25:11 +0200
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Does SuSE 5.2 support mca-bus machines? I have
IBM 8595 PC server running slackware but I'd
really love to have SuSE in it.

Jukka


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From zentara@mindspring.com Thu Apr  2 15:42:59 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:42:59 -0500
Message-ID: <3523B203.8F9A5883@mindspring.com>
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Jim Hodgers wrote:
> 
> I am trying to use superx, available on "www.winsite.com"
> to connect my Win95 box in the house with the linux box
> in the shop. When it loads it goes out and finds the Linux
> box but returns a message
> "Fatal Server error :unknown host:192.168.1.254"
> now this is the IP address I gave SuSe during installation
> and I can telnet and ping to this number. Do I need a port
> number? Which one? Sure like to be able to work in the
> house, its ~30 Meters to the shop and we are still seeing
> 5 degrees (F) at nite around here.
> Jim
> PS Love the group!!
> 

Maybe you need to get the Samba server going
on the linux box, in order for superx to
talk with it. There is also an option in the
kernel for smb support, in menuconfig under
filesystems.

zentara


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From e9725066@student.tuwien.ac.at Thu Apr  2 15:52:51 1998
From: e9725066@student.tuwien.ac.at
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NE2000 compatible PCI
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:52:51 +0200
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On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Santi wrote:

> 
>   Hi.
>   Does anyone knows if there is any problem about the net cards that are
> compatibles with NE2000 (clones) and are PCI?
> Thanks.
> 
>             Santi
With S.u.S.E 5.1 and Kernl 2.0.32 it works.
You just have to include the NE2000-ISA-Clone into the kernel.
The driver is smart enough to handle with PuP Cards.

wi


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From morche@sat1.de Thu Apr  2 16:18:36 1998
From: morche@sat1.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printer messed up!
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 18:18:36 +0200
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Jim Hatridge wrote:
>=20
> Hi all!;
>=20
> Steve and I have been working on the apsfilter. But now I have another
> problem that has me dead in the water.
>=20
> I tried to print a one page picture file. I did it wrong and Lpr started
> to dump the raw file to the printer (i.e. 10101 etc). It is around 60
> pages long. So I tryed the remove command, nothing. Then I checked with
> the lpq command the que was empty. I logout, then did init, and at last a
> reboot. Nothing stops my printer! Right now I have it turned off, but I'm
> still getting error reports to /var/log/messages.
...

Probably You're printing to a remote printer via aps... In that case the
remote queue is simply named 'remote'. Try to clean remote -> "lpc clean
remote". If that does not work try "lpc clean all". If it doesn't work
either, do a "lpc stat" and look out for something like '... entry in
spool area', get that queue and clean it.

        Regards, Matthias

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From zentara@mindspring.com Thu Apr  2 18:38:28 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] connecting 2 machines via modems with no phone
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 13:38:28 -0500
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Hi,

I want to do some testing of mgetty.
I remember at one time there was a way of getting
2 modems to connect, without a phone line; that is,
with just a phone wire between the 2 modems.

You set ATX0 for blind dialing on the originator,
then ATDT.
On the receiver, you went offhook with ATH1, then
an ATA to answer.

When I did this under dos, they would connect.

This dosn't seem to work under minicom.

Has anyone heard of someone testing this way?
And what a good procedure would be?

zentara


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From frolija@texaco.com Thu Apr  2 19:04:51 1998
From: frolija@texaco.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] connecting 2 machines via modems with no phone
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 13:04:51 -0600
Message-ID: <7A4BD94DC59FD111A4B400805F85B58B57CCEF@msx01018.boc.texaco.com>
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I always had to use a "telephone line simulator"  which is a little device
that provided line voltage and a simulated ring.

        -----Original Message-----
        From:	zentara [SMTP:zentara(a)mindspring.com]
        Sent:	Thursday, April 02, 1998 12:38 PM
        To:	suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
        Subject:	[S.u.S.E. Linux] connecting 2 machines via modems
with no phone

        Hi,

        I want to do some testing of mgetty.
        I remember at one time there was a way of getting
        2 modems to connect, without a phone line; that is,
        with just a phone wire between the 2 modems.

        You set ATX0 for blind dialing on the originator,
        then ATDT.
        On the receiver, you went offhook with ATH1, then
        an ATA to answer.

        When I did this under dos, they would connect.

        This dosn't seem to work under minicom.

        Has anyone heard of someone testing this way?
        And what a good procedure would be?

        zentara

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From oliver.berger@uni-duisburg.de Thu Apr  2 19:12:54 1998
From: oliver.berger@uni-duisburg.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] kdm - default language is german
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:12:54 +0100
Message-ID: <3523E336.80F6C251@uni-duisburg.de>
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hello!

i just installed suse 5.1 and the kdm beta 3 packages from the suse ftp
server. everything is fine, but when the kdm frontpanel pops up, it
first shows de tahn en as order in the language dropdown. as mopst of
the users do not speak german, i would like it do default to english.

does anyone know what to set in kdmrc?

thanks!


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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Thu Apr  2 19:14:51 1998
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printer messed up!
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 21:14:51 +0200
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On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Matthias Morche wrote:

>=20
>=20
> Probably You're printing to a remote printer via aps... In that case the
> remote queue is simply named 'remote'. Try to clean remote -> "lpc clean
> remote". If that does not work try "lpc clean all". If it doesn't work
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Damn! That got it! Thanks for your help!
It was about to drive me crazy!
=20
> either, do a "lpc stat" and look out for something like '... entry in
> spool area', get that queue and clean it.
>=20
> 	Regards, Matthias
> --=20
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JIM

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From zentara@mindspring.com Thu Apr  2 19:15:20 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NE2000 compatible PCI
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 14:15:20 -0500
Message-ID: <3523E3C7.A1566B3F@mindspring.com>
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Santi wrote:
> 
>   Hi.
>   Does anyone knows if there is any problem about the net cards that are
> compatibles with NE2000 (clones) and are PCI?
> Thanks.
> 

I have one, a Realtek 8029, 10megabyte speed.

It is pnp, and it works really well. The pnp_bios
function finds it automatically.
However, if you are using the standard kernel and
have kerneld load it, you must identify it by
editing the /etc/modules.conf file
to 
   alias    eth0    ne

then uncomment the option for ne and enter
the right io and irq found by the pci_bios.
You can read the settings after booting, and logging
in, with  + 

Or use your hard settings, if you have a non-pnp card.

You can recompile the kernel to include it, choose
"other isa cards" in menuconfig, and include ne2000.
Then the /etc/module.conf dosn't matter.

zentara


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From gbauer@total.net Thu Apr  2 19:16:57 1998
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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Thu Apr  2 20:02:12 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NE2000 compatible PCI
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 22:02:12 +0200
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No, just set "NE2000" in the kernel options (ISA or PCI, works for both of
'em)

Pascal
 l'irréductible Linuxien
-----Original Message-----
From: Santi 
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date: jeudi 2 avril 1998 18:09
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NE2000 compatible PCI

>
>  Hi.
>  Does anyone knows if there is any problem about the net cards that are
>compatibles with NE2000 (clones) and are PCI?
>Thanks.
>
>            Santi
>
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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Thu Apr  2 20:09:20 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 22:09:20 +0200
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What's SuperX ? a X server ?
In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa...

P.S.: where can I find it ? I took a look at www.winsite.com, but I didn't
find it... am I stupid or what ? ;-)

Pascal
 l'irréductible Linuxien

-----Original Message-----
From: zentara 
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date: jeudi 2 avril 1998 18:52
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95

>
>Jim Hodgers wrote:
>>
>> I am trying to use superx, available on "www.winsite.com"
>> to connect my Win95 box in the house with the linux box
>> in the shop. When it loads it goes out and finds the Linux
>> box but returns a message
>> "Fatal Server error :unknown host:192.168.1.254"
>> now this is the IP address I gave SuSe during installation
>> and I can telnet and ping to this number. Do I need a port
>> number? Which one? Sure like to be able to work in the
>> house, its ~30 Meters to the shop and we are still seeing
>> 5 degrees (F) at nite around here.
>> Jim
>> PS Love the group!!
>>
>
>Maybe you need to get the Samba server going
>on the linux box, in order for superx to
>talk with it. There is also an option in the
>kernel for smb support, in menuconfig under
>filesystems.
>
>zentara
>
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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Thu Apr  2 20:12:57 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Fw: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How to set a different WM?
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 22:12:57 +0200
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here's the BEST way ;-)

Pascal
 l'irréductible Linuxien

-----Original Message-----
From: Pascal Bleser 
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date: mercredi 1 avril 1998 11:04
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How to set a different WM?

>The better way is to have a new environment setting, let's call it "WINM"
>(don't use "WINDOWMANAGER", it's already used by some system scripts and
>will confuse some of them)...
>You just need to add a line to /etc/profile, like this:
>...
>export WINM=kde
>...
>(and don't forget "export")
>Every user can customize this setting in his very own ~/.profile
>Now, you just need to change the /usr/X11/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc script...
>I attached mine, that works with kde, fvwm2, fvwm, afterstep and twm, but
>it's very easy to extend (even if you're not used to shell scripts)...
>
>I even made a little script called "x", which provides you with a menu
>(using dialog) with the different windowmanagers... you choose one, and the
>script sets WINM="afterstep", for example, and then makes "startx"... I
have
>to retrieve it from my very own Linux box, which is on another network (and
>there's no communication between 'em... so, if have to go upstairs ;-) -
>I'll send it this afternoon, ok ?
>
>Pascal
>l'irréductible Linuxien
>
>P.S.:
>don't forget to do some environment settings:
>in /etc/profile, add the lines:
>export KDEDIR=/opt/kde
>export PATH=$PATH:$KDEDIR/bin
>export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:$KDEDIR/lib
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: alexser(a)idt.net 
>To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
>Date: mercredi 1 avril 1998 07:19
>Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How to set a different WM?
>
>
>
>Hi!
>
>I am a new user of Linux and S.u.S.E having just installed it
>yesterday. Now I am trying to find a way to change the default Window
>Manager to KDE. Could someone tell me which file should be changed
>and how? Also what should be done when I want to upgrade the version
>of KDE to a new one?
>
>Thank you in advance for your help.
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#!/bin/sh
# $XConsortium: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.4 91/08/22 11:41:34 rws Exp $

userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xresources
sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xmodmap

# merge in defaults and keymaps

if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
    xrdb -merge $sysresources
fi

if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
    xmodmap $sysmodmap
fi

if [ -f $userresources ]; then
    xrdb -merge $userresources
fi

if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
    xmodmap $usermodmap
fi

# start some nice programs

# xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 &
# xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 &
# xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 &

if [ -n "$WINM" ];
then	case "$WINM" in
                kde) exec startkde;;
                fvwm2) exec fvwm2;;
                fbwm) exec fvwm;;
                afterstep) exec afterstep;;
                *) exec twm
        esac
else	exec twm
fi

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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Thu Apr  2 20:16:46 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: DHCP & DNS
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 22:16:46 +0200
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Well, normally it _doesn't_, but I saw a package some weeks ago (on
www.linuxnow.com, I think - but you should be able to find it everywhere
;-), it's the bind daemon, version **8**, and it looks like it DOES...
I'm sorry I can't provide you with more information, because it's a while
ago and I can't remember, but I know I saw it !!

Pascal
 l'irréductible Linuxien

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Bowman 
To: linux-admin(a)vger.rutgers.edu 
Date: jeudi 2 avril 1998 22:06
Subject: DHCP & DNS

>
>Is there anything out there that correlates the info DNS has as DHCP is
>assigning IP addresses?  Am I just dreaming too much?  What I have in mind
>is, when DHCP assigns the IP address, it updates the DNS with the hostname
>info, or vice versa.
>
>Is it not possible for:
>
>1. DHCP to find out the hostname from the host it's assigning the IP
>address to, (because that can be configured at the host)
>
>and then
>
>2. Update the DNS's Zone file that it has been assigned to dynamically
>configure..
>
>Or, on the other hand, when assigning the info to the newly assigned host:
>
>1. Query the DNS for the hostname of the IP it wants to assign,
>
>and then
>
>2. Assign the correct hostname to the host...
>
>I guess this is a stupid question... but I can't resist not to ask and
>there just seems to lack a little more communication between the two
>services.
>
>....troy.
>
>


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From satan@nfinity.com Thu Apr  2 20:26:59 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] kdm - default language is german
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 14:26:59 -0600
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for beta2 of kde, export LANG=3DEN in /etc/profile was all it took, I'm not s=
ure
if beta3 is different

Oliver Berger wrote:

> hello!
>
> i just installed suse 5.1 and the kdm beta 3 packages from the suse ftp
> server. everything is fine, but when the kdm frontpanel pops up, it
> first shows de tahn en as order in the language dropdown. as mopst of
> the users do not speak german, i would like it do default to english.
>
> does anyone know what to set in kdmrc?
>
> thanks!
>
> --
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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> Deliver yesterday, code today, think tomorrow.
>
> Oliver Berger
> 9 Lendal Terrace
> London SW4 7UU
> United Kingdom
>
> phone: +44-171-7207448  (Home)
>        +44-171-419-3987 (University College London)
>
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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Thu Apr  2 20:27:52 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
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AAARRgh!!


I was even more stu=
pid... I=20
sent it to the mailing list  $*/+?


He can't even read it like that  


8^D 


 


yeah... you can call me what you want on this one...=20
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From gecko@freecar.com Thu Apr  2 21:38:05 1998
From: gecko@freecar.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] connecting 2 machines via modems with no ph
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 13:38:05 -0800
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On 02-Apr-98 zentara wrote:
>You set ATX0 for blind dialing on the originator,
>then ATDT.
>On the receiver, you went offhook with ATH1, then
>an ATA to answer.
>

I did ATO from one and ATA on the other... nothing else.. not ATX0 or ATH1=20
infact, I think ATH1 would defeat the ATA

It worked for me 5 minutes ago when I tested it.
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From bb@suse.com Thu Apr  2 21:40:52 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 13:40:52 -0800
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Donnie Barnes wrote:
>=20
> > And I appreciate that you are on our mailing list. Are you going to be
>=20
> I'm just here trying to steal trade secrets.  :-)

So I have to subscribe to your list asap, ti do the same...:)

> > in Chicago for the upcoming Comdex? It would be nice to meet you (and
> > anybody else on this list...), I'll be at our booth for the hole
> > week...
>=20
> Nope...Chicago is just not my kind of town.  You guys are coming to
> LinuxExpo, aren't you?

Yes, we'll be there, and just yesterday I heared thet Durham seems to=20
be a nice town, so I'm looking forward to this show... :)

Ciao,
        BB


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From djb@redhat.com Thu Apr  2 22:06:15 1998
From: djb@redhat.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. and glibc2
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:06:15 -0500
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> > Nope...Chicago is just not my kind of town.  You guys are coming to
> > LinuxExpo, aren't you?
>=20
> Yes, we'll be there, and just yesterday I heared thet Durham seems to=20
> be a nice town, so I'm looking forward to this show... :)

Well, it's worth looking forward to because of all the people who are
going to be there.  I'm not sure Durham is worth looking forward to.  :-)

--Donnie


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From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Thu Apr  2 23:53:04 1998
From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printer messed up!
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:53:04 -0600
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Jerome Krough wrote:

You might try unpluging the printer's power cord
to see if that will clear the

printer's memory.  I had a similar problem and it may be that
you just have to

let the print job run it's course.

Jerome K.

Michael Lankton wrote:

> man lprm

>

The que is empty so lprm isn't going to do you much good.

 

Not sure if this will help, but if you check the spool directory (providing
the printer buffer is empty), and see if the file that your printer is
hung up on exists.  If it does, delete it?

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, is there anything in Linux that will allow
me to change and print color? =20

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Party on Linux:-)

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From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Fri Apr  3 00:05:08 1998
From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] XServer
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 18:05:08 -0600
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José Valerdi Tormo wrote:

Hello, How I can configure de XWindows to start a
server diferent of

FWM2 ?

 

In your home directory, edit .bashrc (or equivalent shell script file)
and add the line

    EXPORT WINDOWMANAGER=3D"preferred windowmanager"

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Party on Linux:-)

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From namffuak@skyenet.net Fri Apr  3 03:29:11 1998
From: namffuak@skyenet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] X11R6.4 ... costs?
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:29:11 +0000
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At 08:22 PM 4/1/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>I don't know if it's a April Fools joke or not...  but I'd like to find out.
>
>I heard a rumor that OpenSource took over X from the X Consortium and that
it's=20
>going to be $5K.....

And here's the relevant paragraph from the Opengroup's announcement letter
on X11R6.4. Note both the first and second sentence:

With the release of X11R6.4 there will be a commercial use licensing fee
associated with the X Window System technology.
     This new licensing structure will continue to provide the research,
application development and hobbiest communities with the
     same value it always has without a fee. And, it will help assure the
continued evolution of the X Window System program with
     the support of those companies who build their businesses from this
technology.
>

This was at: http://www.opengroup.org/p=
ress/31mar98.htm>

TomK

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From jonathan@aracnet.net Fri Apr  3 05:44:26 1998
From: jonathan@aracnet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Distribution comparisons
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 00:44:26 -0500
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There's some talk about distributions; once agin while avoiding the holy wars,
I have to give my 2 cents...

***SuSE*** is by far my favorite, reasons:
        1-This list!  Nice to have the heart of the company on the line here.
        2-YaST+RPM.  I don't know what I did without it!  As simple as
setup.exe.
        3-SuSEwm, it has its faults, mostly remembering to patch a new config
with the existing one... it's *vital* for surviving an X setup on half an hour
a day plus weekends! :)
        4-Very current.
        5-PACKAGES!!!  WOW! There's always more than you think!

I really liked ***Slackware***, because:
        1-Very granular, more so than any other dist.  You *can* set up an old
notebook in 100 MB of disk (and I have).  I wish SuSE would break down packag=
es
a bit more... i.e. I don't want a full TeX distribution on a minor
installation!  How about the extreme basics with addons?  Why are there QT de=
mo
programs when all I wanted was the libraries so I could run KDE?  So on.
        2-pkgtool is sparse but clever for such a primitive package format.
        3-A Sunsite archive!  Think of it; a basic offline mirror of a ftp
directory, no promises or support, but hey you always find something new.  I
wouldn't trade this for the preconfigured packages of SuSE, but I'd replace t=
he
live file system with it.
        4-It was my first distribution since Slackware 3.0, It came a --LoNG--
way since then!

***Caldera OpenLinux Lite***
        1-Installation!!!  I loved the default setups (minimal, full, etc.)
        2-Looking Glass was _very_ nice, intuitive
        3-nice selection of packages even on the Lite dist.

***Red Hat***
        (only a few minutes on a Red Hat machine)
        1-Control Panel... clever!
        2-coming up with RPM in the first place
        3-nice selection of packages on the web site!
        (I show my ignorance by not saying more)

That's all I've tried.  I like them all :)  I thought I would like Slackware
less once I tried the preconfigured world of SuSE, but I don't.  I still
recommend SuSE the most, but I __love__ the small footprint of Slackware.

Comments?


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From di6mika@cse.hks.se Fri Apr  3 05:52:18 1998
From: di6mika@cse.hks.se
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How to set a different WM?
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 21:52:18 -0800
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980402215211.006b807c@f_utbserv.cse.hks.se>
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I downloaded the files from:
ftp://ftp.suse.co=
m/suse_update/KDE/Beta3-with-qt-1.32/>
and I installed them via YaST and it worked perfect!

>Hi!
>
>I am a new user of Linux and S.u.S.E having just installed it=20
>yesterday. Now I am trying to find a way to change the default Window=20
>Manager to KDE. Could someone tell me which file should be changed=20
>and how? Also what should be done when I want to upgrade the version=20
>of KDE to a new one?
>
>Thank you in advance for your help.
>
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From srr03@tid.es Fri Apr  3 07:11:58 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] XServer
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 09:11:58 +0200
Message-ID: <35248BBE.2B14EA5F@tid.es>
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Read the instructions of the window manager to install.
For example, for kde you have a script to make all that you should do
before running it.
You just have to comment ('#') all the entries in the .xinitrc that sound
about a window manager and finally put the kde script at the end (I think
is called startkde).
To run the twm or the fvwm I think you just have to change 'fvwm2' in
.xinintrc by 'twm' or 'fvwm'.
Oh! And if you don't have a .xinitrc (I think root doesn't have at first)
you can generate it from the X (in fvwm2) . Click the left button and
choose configure wm. There you can generate the .xinitrc in some
languages.
Good luck.

Josi Valerdi Tormo wrote:

> Hello, How I can configure de XWindows to start a server diferent of
> FWM2 ?
>
> Thanks.
>
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From srr03@tid.es Fri Apr  3 07:16:09 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 09:16:09 +0200
Message-ID: <35248CB9.74D34589@tid.es>
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You really got it. Go into winsite and search for it (superx.exe). It's just
there.

Pascal Bleser wrote:

> What's SuperX ? a X server ?
> In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa...
>
> P.S.: where can I find it ? I took a look at www.winsite.com, but I didn't
> find it... am I stupid or what ? ;-)
>
> Pascal
>  l'irréductible Linuxien
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: zentara 
> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
> Date: jeudi 2 avril 1998 18:52
> Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
>
> >
> >Jim Hodgers wrote:
> >>
> >> I am trying to use superx, available on "www.winsite.com"
> >> to connect my Win95 box in the house with the linux box
> >> in the shop. When it loads it goes out and finds the Linux
> >> box but returns a message
> >> "Fatal Server error :unknown host:192.168.1.254"
> >> now this is the IP address I gave SuSe during installation
> >> and I can telnet and ping to this number. Do I need a port
> >> number? Which one? Sure like to be able to work in the
> >> house, its ~30 Meters to the shop and we are still seeing
> >> 5 degrees (F) at nite around here.
> >> Jim
> >> PS Love the group!!
> >>
> >
> >Maybe you need to get the Samba server going
> >on the linux box, in order for superx to
> >talk with it. There is also an option in the
> >kernel for smb support, in menuconfig under
> >filesystems.
> >
> >zentara
> >
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From oliver.berger@uni-duisburg.de Fri Apr  3 08:29:55 1998
From: oliver.berger@uni-duisburg.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] kdm - default language is german
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 09:29:55 +0100
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Michael Lankton wrote:
>=20
> for beta2 of kde, export LANG=3DEN in /etc/profile was all it took, I'm not=
=20
> sure
> if beta3 is different

As far as I think, /etc/profile is read when a shell is started. I'm
starting kdm by defaulting to runlevel 3. Anyway, it is just the _order_
of languages presented in the Languages dropdown i want to change. The
greeting string and all labels _are_ already english, Yast talks english
as well.

I think of changing something in kdmrc, as the available sessions and
most kdm properties are listed there as well, i just do not know what to
set there.

Thanks

Oliver

=20
> Oliver Berger wrote:
>=20
> > hello!
> >
> > i just installed suse 5.1 and the kdm beta 3 packages from the suse ftp
> > server. everything is fine, but when the kdm frontpanel pops up, it
> > first shows de tahn en as order in the language dropdown. as mopst of
> > the users do not speak german, i would like it do default to english.
> >
> > does anyone know what to set in kdmrc?


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From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Apr  3 15:35:54 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 10:35:54 -0500
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Pascal Bleser wrote:
> 
> What's SuperX ? a X server ?
> In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa...
> 

Whoa, he originally had the problem that his win95
machine, wouldn't connect with his linux machine
in another building. I presume via ethernet.

If SuperX is only an Xserver, for his
win95 display, he still will need samba
on his linux box to talk with it.

Unless SuperX includes some sort of NFS server.

Isn't this correct?

zentara


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From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Apr  3 16:11:38 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] connecting 2 machines via modems with no ph
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 11:11:38 -0500
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gecko(a)freecar.com wrote:
> 
> On 02-Apr-98 zentara wrote:
> >You set ATX0 for blind dialing on the originator,
> >then ATDT.
> >On the receiver, you went offhook with ATH1, then
> >an ATA to answer.
> >
> 
> I did ATO from one and ATA on the other... nothing else.. not ATX0 or ATH1
> infact, I think ATH1 would defeat the ATA
> 
> It worked for me 5 minutes ago when I tested it.
>

Hi, I just tried it on my modems and it wouldn't work.
Did you do this while both were connected to the phone system,
or with a direct wire? I can get them to connect while
hooked to the phone system, but an operator recording
kicks in, warning me turn go back onhook.

Maybe my modems don't support the AT command set fully.

When you say ATO, do you mean ATO0, "O" followed by "zero"?

I have to issue an ATH1 before my modems will accept
an ATO0.

One of my modems is a Rockwell type, and the other
isn't, I wonder if that makes a difference?

What kind of modems do you have?

zentara


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From srr03@tid.es Fri Apr  3 16:22:26 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 18:22:26 +0200
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Hi.
I think, with all my respects, that you are wrong. There's no need to
install samba in the linux box. An X server works under tcp/ip. Samba is
for the windows net (nothing to do with tcp/ip; you can have both or any
of them working good separately). Exactly, Samba is used for
communication with the netbios protocol, the windows net protocol.
Am I wrong?
                           Santi

zentara wrote:

> Pascal Bleser wrote:
> >
> > What's SuperX ? a X server ?
> > In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa...
> >
>
> Whoa, he originally had the problem that his win95
> machine, wouldn't connect with his linux machine
> in another building. I presume via ethernet.
>
> If SuperX is only an Xserver, for his
> win95 display, he still will need samba
> on his linux box to talk with it.
>
> Unless SuperX includes some sort of NFS server.
>
> Isn't this correct?
>
> zentara
>
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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Fri Apr  3 18:09:43 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 10:09:43 -0800
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> > >
> > > What's SuperX ? a X server ?
> > > In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa... 
> >
> >  [snipped]
>
> Hi.
> I think, with all my respects, that you are wrong. There's no need to
> install samba in the linux box. An X server works under tcp/ip. Samba is
> for the windows net (nothing to do with tcp/ip; you can have both or any
> of them working good separately). Exactly, Samba is used for
> communication with the netbios protocol, the windows net protocol.
> Am I wrong?
>                            Santi

To add my useless 2 cents of kibitz (hopefully it will clear things up),
SAMBA allows Linux to properly deal with and manage the Windows
network filing system (SMB).  It also provides the necessary pieces
to speak the windows NetBIOS layer, which can run on top of other
protocols, such as TCP/IP, IPX, or NetBEUI.

An X-server is TOTALLY INDEPENDANT.  In order for machines to send X
protocol messages back and forth, they have *no need* to access each
other's files.  This would be analogous to installing SAMBA just so that
you can telnet in.  

The X server, in case you were wondering, is the component of software
that receives the lowest level of GUI protocol messages and decides how
to raster them to the screen.  On a local unix box, this is rather
equivalent to a video card driver.  On a windows box, it is generall
software that translates the X messages into windows GDI calls (or maybe
even directX these days, which is of course the totally unrelated and
poorly named 'low level access' API in 95).

Anyway, I don't have the answer, although I do know the DISPLAY env
variable on the linux box should be something like 163.65.23.101:0 where
163.65.23.101 is your PC's IP address.  The X server may have
restrictions on which IPs are allowed to connect to it.  You should
investigate this.  The X server will most likely have more than one
method of connecting and authenticating.  Investigate trying different
options.  Be sure of your password!  Do you have some Super X docs?
They may have some tips.

If none of this gets you anywhere, try to at least narrow down where
it's failing, and come back with what you do and what messages you get
and where it fails  (probably send the same message to super X).

-josh

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From jovator@arrakis.es Fri Apr  3 18:15:27 1998
From: jovator@arrakis.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] XServer
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 20:15:27 +0200
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Hello, How I can configure de XWindows to start a server diferent of
FWM2 ?

Thanks.


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From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Apr  3 20:09:40 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 15:09:40 -0500
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Joshua Rodmanius wrote:
> 

> To add my useless 2 cents of kibitz (hopefully it will clear things up),
> SAMBA allows Linux to properly deal with and manage the Windows
> network filing system (SMB).  It also provides the necessary pieces
> to speak the windows NetBIOS layer, which can run on top of other
> protocols, such as TCP/IP, IPX, or NetBEUI.
> 
> An X-server is TOTALLY INDEPENDANT.  In order for machines to send X
> protocol messages back and forth, they have *no need* to access each
> other's files.  This would be analogous to installing SAMBA just so that
> you can telnet in.
> 

I see, I thought an x-server was just the local display
server.

Ok, I have a question then, what purpose does this
X-server serve?
Does it just allows you to have an x-display when you
telnet in from a win95 machine? I mean if it can't access
files, what use is it?

Also, is this the source of the security breach in X-windows,
which I have been hearing about?

zentara


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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Fri Apr  3 22:41:04 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 14:41:04 -0800
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> 
> Joshua Rodmanius wrote:
> 
> > To add my useless 2 cents of kibitz (hopefully it will clear things up),
> > SAMBA allows Linux to properly deal with and manage the Windows
> > network filing system (SMB).  It also provides the necessary pieces
> > to speak the windows NetBIOS layer, which can run on top of other
> > protocols, such as TCP/IP, IPX, or NetBEUI.
> > 
> > An X-server is TOTALLY INDEPENDANT.  In order for machines to send X
> > protocol messages back and forth, they have *no need* to access each
> > other's files.  This would be analogous to installing SAMBA just so that
> > you can telnet in.
> > 
> 
> I see, I thought an x-server was just the local display
> server.

Yes. It is. This is what i said.  The X server displays graphics locally
on the machine it is running on.  An X server running on a windows box
displays output from X applications (X clients) on the Windows display.

The point is you can connect to your linux box, and tell the X apps to
direct their output to your Win95 box, thus using guis and whatnot
on another machine.  The programs will run on linux, but you will be
able to use them from 95.  Think of it as a GUI telnet.

If you have further questions about how X works, feel free to e-mail me
(although I am certainly not an expert), but I think you, and I and the
readers of this list would be better served by a good source of
information on X.  Perhaps starting with the XFree86 howto and attendant
documentation.

 
> Also, is this the source of the security breach in X-windows,
> which I have been hearing about?

I believe this is about how X servers generally run as root, and setuid
programs can be tricked into misbehaving at times.

-josh

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From mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com Sat Apr  4 00:47:23 1998
From: mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] kdm - default language is german
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 17:47:23 -0700
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Oliver Berger wrote:

> hello!
>
> i just installed suse 5.1 and the kdm beta 3 packages from the suse ftp
> server. everything is fine, but when the kdm frontpanel pops up, it
> first shows de tahn en as order in the language dropdown. as mopst of
> the users do not speak german, i would like it do default to english.
>
> does anyone know what to set in kdmrc?
>
> thanks!
>
> --
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D
> Deliver yesterday, code today, think tomorrow.
>
> Oliver Berger
> 9 Lendal Terrace
> London SW4 7UU
> United Kingdom
>
> phone: +44-171-7207448  (Home)
>        +44-171-419-3987 (University College London)
>
> mailto:oliver.berger(a)u=
ni-duisburg.de
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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  edit the         /opt/kde/share/config/kdmrc
SessionLanguage=3Dde  (change 'de' to 'en' -- or put en, de to have a drop do=
wn
menu defaulting to the en)

BTW.  KDE has a KDE Display Manager to configure all of KDM (since beta3 I
believe)

mc


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From mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com Sat Apr  4 00:58:08 1998
From: mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Distribution comparisons
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 17:58:08 -0700
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jonathan(a)aracnet.net wrote:

> There's some talk about distributions; once agin while avoiding the holy wa=
rs,
> I have to give my 2 cents...
>
> ***SuSE*** is by far my favorite, reasons:
>         1-This list!  Nice to have the heart of the company on the line her=
e.
>         2-YaST+RPM.  I don't know what I did without it!  As simple as
> setup.exe.
>         3-SuSEwm, it has its faults, mostly remembering to patch a new conf=
ig
> with the existing one... it's *vital* for surviving an X setup on half an h=
our
> a day plus weekends! :)
>         4-Very current.
>         5-PACKAGES!!!  WOW! There's always more than you think!
>
> I really liked ***Slackware***, because:
>         1-Very granular, more so than any other dist.  You *can* set up an =
old
> notebook in 100 MB of disk (and I have).  I wish SuSE would break down pack=
ages
> a bit more... i.e. I don't want a full TeX distribution on a minor
> installation!  How about the extreme basics with addons?  Why are there QT =
demo
> programs when all I wanted was the libraries so I could run KDE?  So on.
>         2-pkgtool is sparse but clever for such a primitive package format.
>         3-A Sunsite archive!  Think of it; a basic offline mirror of a ftp
> directory, no promises or support, but hey you always find something new.  I
> wouldn't trade this for the preconfigured packages of SuSE, but I'd replace=
 the
> live file system with it.
>         4-It was my first distribution since Slackware 3.0, It came a --LoN=
G--
> way since then!
>
> ***Caldera OpenLinux Lite***
>         1-Installation!!!  I loved the default setups (minimal, full, etc.)
>         2-Looking Glass was _very_ nice, intuitive
>         3-nice selection of packages even on the Lite dist.
>
> ***Red Hat***
>         (only a few minutes on a Red Hat machine)
>         1-Control Panel... clever!
>         2-coming up with RPM in the first place
>         3-nice selection of packages on the web site!
>         (I show my ignorance by not saying more)
>
> That's all I've tried.  I like them all :)  I thought I would like Slackware
> less once I tried the preconfigured world of SuSE, but I don't.  I still
> recommend SuSE the most, but I __love__ the small footprint of Slackware.
>
> Comments?
>
> ---
> jonathan(a)aracnet.net
>
> Finagle's Creed:
>         Science is true.  Don't be misled by facts.
>
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Very well said, I agree.

mc


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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sat Apr  4 01:27:30 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] QT compilattion and link / Help please
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 20:27:30 -0500
Message-ID: <35258C82.F25485B@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil>
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Augusto,

I just went through this.  I think what fixed this for me was to
make sure I had all the gcc related stuff installed.  I also loaded
the lattest (beta 3) of the KDE.  I believe that is all that I did
to before my QT compiled.  I think the new KDE was not the issue. 
I believe it was the gcc stuff.  Make sure you have all the c++ stuff
there.  I can't remember the details, but this is a broad outline. 
If you can tell me an easy way to dump the list of packages that I have
loaded I will be happy to mail that to you.

Steve

Augusto Cardoso wrote:

>Augusto Cardoso wrote:

>

>> The QT library components are distributed with tutorials (explanations,

>> programs and Makefiles).

>> I didn't succeed to compile/link any of those tutorials since their

>> Makefiles seem to point to libraries not created/used by the SuSE

>> distribution.

>> Could anyone tell me the right libraries to where they should point
?

>>

>> Thanks for any help.

>>

>> --

>Michael Clark wrote:

>

>Get the rpm files from suse's ftp site.  use yast to install
them.  no

>headaches!!!

>

Well I'd love it'd be that way!

I'm running a pure SuSE 5.1 installation with QT from that same

distribution, and I still have headaches!!

Anyone has another kind of "Aspirin" ?  :))

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From philsf@altavista.net Sat Apr  4 02:11:54 1998
From: philsf@altavista.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Distribution comparisons
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:11:54 -0300
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At 17:58 03/04/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>jonathan(a)aracnet.net wrote:
>
>> There's some talk about distributions; once agin while avoiding the holy
wars,
>> I have to give my 2 cents...
>>
>> ***SuSE*** is by far my favorite, reasons:
>>         1-This list!  Nice to have the heart of the company on the line
here.
>>         2-YaST+RPM.  I don't know what I did without it!  As simple as
>> setup.exe.
>>         3-SuSEwm, it has its faults, mostly remembering to patch a new
config
>> with the existing one... it's *vital* for surviving an X setup on half
an hour
>> a day plus weekends! :)
>>         4-Very current.
>>         5-PACKAGES!!!  WOW! There's always more than you think!
>>
>> I really liked ***Slackware***, because:
>>         1-Very granular, more so than any other dist.  You *can* set up
an old
>> notebook in 100 MB of disk (and I have).  I wish SuSE would break down
packages
>> a bit more... i.e. I don't want a full TeX distribution on a minor
>> installation!  How about the extreme basics with addons?  Why are there
QT demo
>> programs when all I wanted was the libraries so I could run KDE?  So on.
>>         2-pkgtool is sparse but clever for such a primitive package format.
>>         3-A Sunsite archive!  Think of it; a basic offline mirror of a ftp
>> directory, no promises or support, but hey you always find something
new.  I
>> wouldn't trade this for the preconfigured packages of SuSE, but I'd
replace the
>> live file system with it.
>>         4-It was my first distribution since Slackware 3.0, It came a
--LoNG--
>> way since then!
>>
>> ***Caldera OpenLinux Lite***
>>         1-Installation!!!  I loved the default setups (minimal, full, etc.)
>>         2-Looking Glass was _very_ nice, intuitive
>>         3-nice selection of packages even on the Lite dist.
>>
>> ***Red Hat***
>>         (only a few minutes on a Red Hat machine)
>>         1-Control Panel... clever!
>>         2-coming up with RPM in the first place
>>         3-nice selection of packages on the web site!
>>         (I show my ignorance by not saying more)
>>
>> That's all I've tried.  I like them all :)  I thought I would like
Slackware
>> less once I tried the preconfigured world of SuSE, but I don't.  I still
>> recommend SuSE the most, but I __love__ the small footprint of Slackware.
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> ---
>> jonathan(a)aracnet.net
>>
>> Finagle's Creed:
>>         Science is true.  Don't be misled by facts.
>>
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>
>Very well said, I agree.
>
>mc
>

You bet! I'm sort of new in the show, and my first try was (and indeed it
still IS) slackware 3.4. I'm so satisfied with it, that I don't intend to
change it, unless it's for a distribution with X11 3.3.2, and more apps.

I guess the new version of SuSE is just like it, isnt it? Although I'd
rather wait a little more, get really used to linux, XFree86, programming,
and then I'll search for another distribution. Trying another in this case,
will be mostly for experiencing purposes, as I said I like Slack. After
all, as a friend said, all linux distributions are alike. they differ
moslty in the installation process, as the kernel and the libs are the same
for all.

Agreed?


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From bb@suse.com Sat Apr  4 02:28:00 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Archive of this list!
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 18:28:00 -0800
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Hi,

good news for all of you who don't want to store all the list traffic
in their mailbox. An archive of this list is avaible now at

-> http://www=
.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html>

Archives of the other S.u.S.E. lists will follow next week!

Ciao,
        BB

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From tpaulic@hotmail.com Sat Apr  4 02:57:39 1998
From: tpaulic@hotmail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 18:57:39 -0800
Message-ID: <19980404025740.1541.qmail@hotmail.com>
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There should be a README or INSTALL file in there. The instructions to=20
compile it are in there.

<>

>Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 07:12:38 -0500
>To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
>From: Ron Lavoie 
>Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
>Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
>
>
>I downloaded PPPWizard as well, but I don't know what to do with the=20
files.
> Many of the are in the for *.cc
>Does that mean they have to be compiled?  How do I do it?
>
>At 19:15 98-03-31 PST, you wrote:
>>
>>oops. it moved. I found it in=20
>>
>>ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/systems/linux/sun=
site/system/network/seria>
>l/ppp/
>>
>>called pppsetup-1.98.tar.gz
>>
>><>
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From lavoie@netcom.ca Sat Apr  4 03:25:48 1998
From: lavoie@netcom.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 22:25:48 -0500
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980403222515.00e0843c@netcom.ca>
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Her is the README.  There's no INSTALL.  All the other files look like
scripts, without instructions.

PPPWizard is distributed under the GNU Public License.

Enjoy! It may be crude but I hacked it together in a few hours.

I will work on it more as I catch potential bugs, or ways
        to make it more efficient.

Please Email any fixes or suggestions to jeffi(a)erols.com.

At 18:57 98-04-03 PST, you wrote:
>
>There should be a README or INSTALL file in there. The instructions to=20
>compile it are in there.
>
><>
>
>>Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 07:12:38 -0500
>>To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
>>From: Ron Lavoie 
>>Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
>>Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
>>
>>
>>I downloaded PPPWizard as well, but I don't know what to do with the=20
>files.
>> Many of the are in the for *.cc
>>Does that mean they have to be compiled?  How do I do it?
>>
>>At 19:15 98-03-31 PST, you wrote:
>>>
>>>oops. it moved. I found it in=20
>>>
>>>ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/systems/linux/su=
nsite/system/network/seria>
>>l/ppp/
>>>
>>>called pppsetup-1.98.tar.gz
>>>
>>><>
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From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr  4 04:25:42 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Archive of this list!
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 19:25:42 -0900
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Bodo Bauer  wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> good news for all of you who don't want to store all the list traffic
> in their mailbox. An archive of this list is avaible now at
>=20
> -> http://w=
ww.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html>
>=20
> Archives of the other S.u.S.E. lists will follow next week!
>=20
> Ciao,
> 	BB

Great job Bodo, and thanks for your hard work. You and the team.

-Dee


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From chris123@netcom.ca Sat Apr  4 05:41:53 1998
From: chris123@netcom.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Ftp Installation
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 00:41:53 -0500
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Greetings;

Can someone please direct me to some instructions or reading material on
how to install SuSE via ftp, assuming that this is a first install, (ie:
not using Yast). Recommended SuSE to an x Salckware user result was,
"can't do it with Suse" I have seen this posted on the list, even though
I dont use this method, and knwo it can be done.

CIA

ch

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From mwagnon@ixpres.com Sat Apr  4 07:21:40 1998
From: mwagnon@ixpres.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Archive of this list!
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:21:40 -0800
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Bodo Bauer wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> good news for all of you who don't want to store all the list traffic
> in their mailbox. An archive of this list is avaible now at
>=20
> -> http://w=
ww.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html>
>=20
> Archives of the other S.u.S.E. lists will follow next week!
>=20

Way to go! Now I can go back I find some messages that I accidentally
scratched!

The stability of the SuSE dist is only out done by its support staff!

Keep up the great work.

Mark

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From mailinfo@cgicon.com Sat Apr  4 08:47:25 1998
From: mailinfo@cgicon.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
 Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] [OFFTOPIC] Implementing a touch screen under Linux
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 16:47:25 +0800
Message-ID: <3525F39D.6D43DFF@cgicon.com>
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Lachlan Dunlop wrote:
> I am starting to look into the development of a touch screen application un=
der
> Linux.  It would be text based.  I am posting the list to see if anyone has
> already done it!!

There is an X-server which has already the touch screen caps. you
prob. need:  Metro-X
Technically it's not better than XFree86, but has some features
like touchscreen and a more easy setup.
It's included on RedHat and Caldera OL 1.1 - somewhere else ?...

>=20
> Would GPM the console mouse driver be a good place to start??  The touch sc=
reen
> input would come in via a serial port.

I dunno details - look on their site: (SuSE also has infos about)
http://www.metrolink.com/>

Some reports:
http://www.ssc.com/lj/issue43/2299.html>
http://www.metrolink.com/pr=
oducts/metrox/ess.html>

Address:
Metro Link Incorporated. 4711 N. Powerline Rd. Fort Lauderdale Fl, 33309
Voice: +1.954.938.0283x414 Fax: +1.954.938.1982

Hope it helps, Lu


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From ke@suse.de Sat Apr  4 11:58:21 1998
From: ke@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Ftp Installation
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 13:58:21 +0200
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Chris Herrnberger  writes:

|   Can someone please direct me to some instructions or reading
|   material on how to install SuSE via ftp, assuming that this is a
|   first install, (ie: not using Yast). Recommended SuSE to an x
|   Salckware user result was, "can't do it with Suse" I have seen this
|   posted on the list, even though I dont use this method, and knwo it
|   can be done.

You've to do the so called NFS installation.  Please, read
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/SuSE-L=
inux/5.1/README.FTP>.

There's an SDB article, that tries to explain in detail, how to use the
internet to install =C2=BBS.u.S.E. Linux=C2=AB
(http://www.suse.de/S=
upport/sdb/ke_suselinux-ftp.html>); I do appreciate
feedback concerning this issue.  Unfortunately the article is written in
german; I hope, we're able to offer an english version of the article in
the near future.

Hint: If nothing strange happens, =C2=BBS.u.S.E. Linux=C2=AB 5.2 will appear =
on
the FTP server in 1 or 2 weeks -- please, be patient until than.


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From mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com Sat Apr  4 13:30:16 1998
From: mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Distribution comparisons
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 06:30:16 -0700
Message-ID: <352635E8.1D806EE7@datsit.com>
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Felipe Figueiredo wrote:

>
>
> You bet! I'm sort of new in the show, and my first try was (and indeed it
> still IS) slackware 3.4. I'm so satisfied with it, that I don't intend to
> change it, unless it's for a distribution with X11 3.3.2, and more apps.
>
> I guess the new version of SuSE is just like it, isnt it? Although I'd
> rather wait a little more, get really used to linux, XFree86, programming,
> and then I'll search for another distribution. Trying another in this case,
> will be mostly for experiencing purposes, as I said I like Slack. After
> all, as a friend said, all linux distributions are alike. they differ
> moslty in the installation process, as the kernel and the libs are the same
> for all.
>
> Agreed?
>
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you can add X11 3.3.2 to your slakware, you don't need to wait for a new
version.  As for differences ....  I, too, started with slakware.  And there =
is
no comparison.  With SuSE you can have a professional looking system, all men=
us
created and updated for you, several window managers to choose from and still=
 not
have a clue how it works.  This allows you to ditch win95 and learn about Lin=
ux
in a much more graceful manner.Before I installed SuSE, my linux box was not =
very
usable.  I don't want to configure my menus by hand.  I don't want to spend a
week trying to install a new program.  I want to use SuSE as my main OS, and
learn bits and pieces as I see fit, not always 'I have to figure this out or =
it's
unusable'.  I don't want to say that SuSE is the only dist. for everyone.  But
you should try out a few so you know what the differences are.

mc


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From oliver.berger@uni-duisburg.de Sat Apr  4 15:56:23 1998
From: oliver.berger@uni-duisburg.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] kdm - default language is german
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 16:56:23 +0100
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> > i just installed suse 5.1 and the kdm beta 3 packages from the suse ftp
> > server. everything is fine, but when the kdm frontpanel pops up, it
> > first shows de tahn en as order in the language dropdown. as mopst of
> > the users do not speak german, i would like it do default to english.
> >
> > does anyone know what to set in kdmrc?

>   edit the         /opt/kde/share/config/kdmrc
> SessionLanguage=3Dde  (change 'de' to 'en' -- or put en; de to have a drop
> down menu defaulting to the en)
>=20
> BTW.  KDE has a KDE Display Manager to configure all of KDM (since beta3 I
> believe)

Thanks, editing the kdmrc worked fine. I jost did not find that
particular Setting in KDE's Display Manager.

Oliver=20


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From scurran@aracnet.net Sat Apr  4 17:41:28 1998
From: scurran@aracnet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] USR Sportster Modem Setup
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 12:41:28 -0500
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I am unable to get my modem to start the dial sequence.  It is a USR
Sportster 28.8 Faxmodem.
I have run PPPsetup.v.1.98 by Kent Robotti and when I enter ppp-go
nothing happens.  I have redone the setup three times with no
improvement.
Any ideas would be appreciated.  I have also tried both the default
initialization in the script and "AT&F1" as per the modem manual.
I am running 5.1. on a Pentium 100

Denis


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From jonathan@aracnet.net Sat Apr  4 19:10:11 1998
From: jonathan@aracnet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Archive of this list!
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 14:10:11 -0500
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On 04-Apr-98 Bodo Bauer wrote:

> good news for all of you who don't want to store all the list traffic
> in their mailbox. An archive of this list is avaible now at
>=20
> -> http://w=
ww.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html>
>=20
> Archives of the other S.u.S.E. lists will follow next week!

Uh oh... does anyone else smell SPAM?

It's been unusually clear of spam from the start, I might mention... well don=
e.
 I'm a little afraid of archives, though...


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From zentara@mindspring.com Sat Apr  4 19:49:54 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] USR Sportster Modem Setup
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 14:49:54 -0500
Message-ID: <35268EE2.9F6E4829@mindspring.com>
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denis miller wrote:
> 
> I am unable to get my modem to start the dial sequence.  It is a USR
> Sportster 28.8 Faxmodem.
> I have run PPPsetup.v.1.98 by Kent Robotti and when I enter ppp-go
> nothing happens.  I have redone the setup three times with no
> improvement.
> Any ideas would be appreciated.  I have also tried both the default

Hi,
Can you dial out with minicom? Or at least get a dialtone?
If not, then the modem isn't setup right.

Are you running this as root?
SuSe has a DIALOUT group that any modem user
must be in. So if you are trying to 
run your dialing script as a user, the
user must be in the dialout group.

Those are the only hints I have.

zentara


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From scurran@aracnet.net Sat Apr  4 23:48:33 1998
From: scurran@aracnet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Dialout
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 18:48:33 -0500
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I could not find this in suse.  Can someone tell me where to find it and
how to get user into it?

Denis


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From satan@nfinity.com Sun Apr  5 00:27:30 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Zip drive woes
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 18:27:30 -0600
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I have an internal ide zip drive.  It is properly recognized at boot as a
Iomega zip drive at /dev/hdd,  so I added it to my fstab, created a dir for
it (/zip) and linked /dev/zip to /dev/hdd (ln -s /dev/hdd /dev/zip) .  My
fstab entry is :

/dev/hdd        /zip        msdos        rw,noauto,user 0    0

but when I try to mount it it says there is no valid msdos filesystem on
/dev/hdd.  Well, there is because all my zip cartridges are properly
formatted and have been used under windows.  I am using these to archive
files so I am using msdos filesystem so they are readable by both os'es.
Any ideas why /dev/zip or /dev/hdd won't mount?  When I try to mount
/dev/zip or /dev/hdd it does query the drive because the light on the drive
comes on, but it always returns that the filesystem is invalid.  I am
stumped.
Thanks in advance


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From urs@digital-mines.com Sun Apr  5 01:06:49 1998
From: urs@digital-mines.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Zip drive woes
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 10:06:49 +0900
Message-ID: <3526D929.D24504A5@digital-mines.com>
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Michael Lankton wrote:

> I have an internal ide zip drive.  It is properly recognized at boot as a
> Iomega zip drive at /dev/hdd,  so I added it to my fstab, created a dir for
> it (/zip) and linked /dev/zip to /dev/hdd (ln -s /dev/hdd /dev/zip) .  My
> fstab entry is :
 
> /dev/hdd        /zip        msdos        rw,noauto,user 0    0
 
Try something like this in your fstab:

/dev/hdd1        /zip         msdos        rw,noauto,user 0    0

or

/dev/hdd1        /zip         vfat         rw,noauto,user 0    0
for long filenames.

If you want to confirm the number after the /dev/hdd scan the boot
messages with 

that will confirm that the kernel found the drive at bootup. 

urs

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From zentara@mindspring.com Sun Apr  5 03:00:09 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Dialout
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 22:00:09 -0500
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denis miller wrote:
> 
> I could not find this in suse.  Can someone tell me where to find it and
> how to get user into it?
> 
> Denis
> 
Hello again,
Go into Yast, and start  System Administration ->
User Administration.
Select or create a user, then under group, select DIALOUT.

If you want to change an existing user, go into
User Admin->F3 (selection)-> Group = DIALOUT.

Play around, you can't hurt Yast>  :-)

zentara


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From deem@wdm.com Sun Apr  5 05:45:50 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Linux Related - A Must See
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 20:45:50 -0900
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I had to give my Barracuda to my wife's Win95 box, so I was down on my
SuSE box for a few days, but it was for a good reason. My daughter and 3 frie=
nds
are competing in ThinkQuest Junior this year and it was great for them
to see what could done under Linux vs. Win95. We did graphic work
under both and used Netscape under both.=20

Now, anyone willing to help her (she's 11yrs old), please visit the site
and post in her guestbook with your constructive comments. It will
go a long way in helping the team learn from others.

See http://tqjunior.advanced.org/3784/i=
ndex.htm>
(Thanks from Melissa!)

Also, if you haven't been to Alaska, it's made for everyone wanting to see
it from a Kid's perspective.

Regards
-Dee


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From phil@servcom.com Sun Apr  5 06:16:01 1998
From: phil@servcom.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Archive of this list!
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 21:16:01 -0900
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Wonderful! Thanks Bodo, everyone else at S.u.S.E. (and, of course, all
you posters). A great new resource (and I can delete my local list
archive).

phil

Bodo Bauer wrote:
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> Hi,
>=20
> good news for all of you who don't want to store all the list traffic
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>=20
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>=20
> Ciao,
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From satan@nfinity.com Sun Apr  5 07:52:35 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Zip drive snafu!
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 01:52:35 -0600
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ok, thanks to Urs my ide zip drive is now accessible.  One more question,
it's late and I've been all over looking for the answer on the web with no
luck; how do I eject the medium?  I tried ziptool which was on one of the
distribution's cds, but ziptool -e /dev/hdd1 returns:

ziptool:  /dev/hdd1 (22/65)  is no raw scsi device

o I'm assuming ziptool is just for scsi drives.  Hmmm,  so how do I eject a
cartridge on my ide zip drive?  The eject button doesn't function in linux.


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From satan@nfinity.com Sun Apr  5 07:56:21 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Zip drive snafu!
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 01:56:21 -0600
Message-ID: <35273925.1281082A@nfinity.com>
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20 seconds after I sent this in my zip cartridge ejected.  I think I may need
an exorcist here.

Michael Lankton wrote:

> ok, thanks to Urs my ide zip drive is now accessible.  One more question,
> it's late and I've been all over looking for the answer on the web with no
> luck; how do I eject the medium?  I tried ziptool which was on one of the
> distribution's cds, but ziptool -e /dev/hdd1 returns:
>
> ziptool:  /dev/hdd1 (22/65)  is no raw scsi device
>
> so I'm assuming ziptool is just for scsi drives.  Hmmm,  so how do I eject a
> cartridge on my ide zip drive?  The eject button doesn't function in linux.


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From urs@digital-mines.com Sun Apr  5 09:32:36 1998
From: urs@digital-mines.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Zip drive snafu!
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 18:32:36 +0900
Message-ID: <35274FB4.DE3E2C3E@digital-mines.com>
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Michael Lankton wrote:

> 20 seconds after I sent this in my zip cartridge ejected.  I think I may ne=
ed
> an exorcist here.

CD-ROMs and ZIP-Drives don't eject until you unmount the device.

For your Zip that is...

0mount /zip

If you hit the eject button before you invoke umount nothing happens.
But if you unmount the Zip after pushing the eject button the disk
ejects automatically. I don't have an ATAPI ZIP, mine is SCSI external
(one of the first drives that were available here in Japan, about 2 1/2
years old) but that should make no difference. I never use the Linux Zip
Tools so I don't know if they caused the unexpected eject.....

urs

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From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sun Apr  5 09:54:26 1998
From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Zip drive snafu!
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 10:54:26 +0100
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On 05-Apr-98 Michael Lankton wrote:
>=20
> 20 seconds after I sent this in my zip cartridge ejected.  I think I may ne=
ed
> an exorcist here.
>=20
> Michael Lankton wrote:
>=20
>> ok, thanks to Urs my ide zip drive is now accessible.  One more question,
>> it's late and I've been all over looking for the answer on the web with no
>> luck; how do I eject the medium?  I tried ziptool which was on one of the
>> distribution's cds, but ziptool -e /dev/hdd1 returns:
>>
>> ziptool:  /dev/hdd1 (22/65)  is no raw scsi device
>>
>> so I'm assuming ziptool is just for scsi drives.  Hmmm,  so how do I eject=
 a
>> cartridge on my ide zip drive?  The eject button doesn't function in linux.

On the parallel-port zip (pseudo-scsi), at least, you also have to unmount the
drive before it will eject. You may "umount /dev/whatever" and then press the
button (and out it pops after a second or two), or you may press the button (=
and
nothing happens) and then "umount /dev/whatever" and out it pops. But you must
do both.

Maybe it's similar on the internal IDE zip.

Cheers,
Ted.

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From rdebruin@willow.demon.nl Sun Apr  5 20:40:06 1998
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Are there any rpm's available for quake and doom?

Regards, Ruud.


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From martin_moeller@ibm.net Sun Apr  5 21:05:16 1998
From: martin_moeller@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Install Packages...
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 22:05:16 +0100
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Hiya!

 In S.u.S.E. Linux 5.1, it seem that you will not get the nice info
included in .rpm files before you already have installed them. All you
get is their version-number. I honestly think this should be expanded to
be so close to the actual installation of the system (Description next
to it, more below, even more with F2 + file listing). Or at least the F2
option?
If you 'less' the file you can see the info, equally so using Midnight
Commander, so it should be possible, maybe even trivial, to include.

Of course it may already be in S.u.S.E. Linux 5.2. If so, then great!

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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sun Apr  5 23:29:51 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape downloads go to sleep.
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 19:29:51 -0400
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Has anybody else had this problem?  When I try to download large files
using Netscape, the download processes seems to go to sleep.  The
progress bar stops after a few minutes, so do the meteors and the time
remaining indicator.  All it takes to get it stated back up is a brush
of the cursor.  Sometimes I need to touch the actual download window,
and sometimes I just move the mouse.  It starts back up and goes for a
few minutes, then it stops again.  I am not sure if it is Linux setting
the download to a very low priority, or something like that, or if
Communicator for Linux has a problem, or some combination of the two.
Any ideas?

Steve


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From jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU Sun Apr  5 23:31:19 1998
From: jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 09:31:19 +1000
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Hi,

I guess, somebody want to install PPP connection.
if so, try EzPPP.

        http://www.serv.net/~camero=
n/ezppp/index.html>

get binery file, then install.

Cheers
jae

On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Tony Paulic wrote:

>=20
> There should be a README or INSTALL file in there. The instructions to=20
> compile it are in there.
>=20
> <>
>=20
> >Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 07:12:38 -0500
> >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> >From: Ron Lavoie 
> >Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
> >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> >
> >
> >I downloaded PPPWizard as well, but I don't know what to do with the=20
> files.
> > Many of the are in the for *.cc
> >Does that mean they have to be compiled?  How do I do it?
> >
> >At 19:15 98-03-31 PST, you wrote:
> >>
> >>oops. it moved. I found it in=20
> >>
> >>ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/systems/linux/s=
unsite/system/network/seria>
> >l/ppp/
> >>
> >>called pppsetup-1.98.tar.gz
> >>
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From thehaas@ravine.binary.net Mon Apr  6 04:27:51 1998
From: thehaas@ravine.binary.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape downloads go to sleep.
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 23:27:51 -0500
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I see the same thing.  I blame Netscape, not Linux (since I never had
this problem using Navigator 3, but just version 4).

Does anyone have any ideas???

- mikeh

>=20
> Has anybody else had this problem?  When I try to download large files
> using Netscape, the download processes seems to go to sleep.  The
> progress bar stops after a few minutes, so do the meteors and the time
> remaining indicator.  All it takes to get it stated back up is a brush
> of the cursor.  Sometimes I need to touch the actual download window,
> and sometimes I just move the mouse.  It starts back up and goes for a
> few minutes, then it stops again.  I am not sure if it is Linux setting
> the download to a very low priority, or something like that, or if
> Communicator for Linux has a problem, or some combination of the two.
> Any ideas?
>=20
> Steve
>=20
> --
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> Ist nur ein Gleichniss"
> -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie.
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From deem@wdm.com Mon Apr  6 05:39:50 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape downloads go to sleep.
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 21:39:50 -0800
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thehaas(a)ravine.binary.net (Mike Hostetler) wrote:
> 
> 
> I see the same thing.  I blame Netscape, not Linux (since I never had
> this problem using Navigator 3, but just version 4).
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas???
> 
> - mikeh

I have downloaded so40_lnx_01.tar.gz 3 times with Communicator
and had no problems. This from Anchorage, Alaska also.
I've used the German site always.

-Dee


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From vhearn@wenet.net Mon Apr  6 12:06:46 1998
From: vhearn@wenet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re:
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 05:06:46 -0700
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u r so funnie

Ruud de Bruin wrote:

> Are there any rpm's available for quake and doom?
>
> Regards, Ruud.
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From kar@webline.dk Mon Apr  6 14:13:43 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] MPPP
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 16:13:43 +0200
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Can someone tell me if channel bundling is possible with S.u.S.E. Linux
5.1?

I tried to do like the docs said - isdnctrl adddlink ippp1, but it
complains that no more links available (or something like that).

I compiled the kernel with MPPP for ISDN.

All in all, could someone give a step-by-step recipe for using two ISDN
lines?


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From netsomni@fastrans.net Mon Apr  6 14:40:13 1998
From: netsomni@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Distribution comparisons
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 14:40:13 +0000
Message-ID: <199804061939.OAA22823@maat.fastrans.net>
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I agree re:libs and kernel the same for all.=20

I used S.u.S.e. Xserver, KDE libs, and QT libs in Slackware. I would=20
NOT have had support for my Diamond Viper 330 AGP w/Riva128=20
in Slackware if it weren't for suse.=20

Brian

> Date:          Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:11:54 -0300
> To:            suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> From:          Felipe Figueiredo 
> Subject:       Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Distribution comparisons
> Reply-to:      suse-linux-e(a)suse.com

>=20
> At 17:58 03/04/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >jonathan(a)aracnet.net wrote:
> >
> >> There's some talk about distributions; once agin while avoiding the holy
> wars,
> >> I have to give my 2 cents...
> >>
> >> ***SuSE*** is by far my favorite, reasons:
> >>         1-This list!  Nice to have the heart of the company on the line
> here.
> >>         2-YaST+RPM.  I don't know what I did without it!  As simple as
> >> setup.exe.
> >>         3-SuSEwm, it has its faults, mostly remembering to patch a new
> config
> >> with the existing one... it's *vital* for surviving an X setup on half
> an hour
> >> a day plus weekends! :)
> >>         4-Very current.
> >>         5-PACKAGES!!!  WOW! There's always more than you think!
> >>
> >> I really liked ***Slackware***, because:
> >>         1-Very granular, more so than any other dist.  You *can* set up
> an old
> >> notebook in 100 MB of disk (and I have).  I wish SuSE would break down
> packages
> >> a bit more... i.e. I don't want a full TeX distribution on a minor
> >> installation!  How about the extreme basics with addons?  Why are there
> QT demo
> >> programs when all I wanted was the libraries so I could run KDE?  So on.
> >>         2-pkgtool is sparse but clever for such a primitive package form=
at.
> >>         3-A Sunsite archive!  Think of it; a basic offline mirror of a f=
tp
> >> directory, no promises or support, but hey you always find something
> new.  I
> >> wouldn't trade this for the preconfigured packages of SuSE, but I'd
> replace the
> >> live file system with it.
> >>         4-It was my first distribution since Slackware 3.0, It came a
> --LoNG--
> >> way since then!
> >>
> >> ***Caldera OpenLinux Lite***
> >>         1-Installation!!!  I loved the default setups (minimal, full, et=
c.)
> >>         2-Looking Glass was _very_ nice, intuitive
> >>         3-nice selection of packages even on the Lite dist.
> >>
> >> ***Red Hat***
> >>         (only a few minutes on a Red Hat machine)
> >>         1-Control Panel... clever!
> >>         2-coming up with RPM in the first place
> >>         3-nice selection of packages on the web site!
> >>         (I show my ignorance by not saying more)
> >>
> >> That's all I've tried.  I like them all :)  I thought I would like
> Slackware
> >> less once I tried the preconfigured world of SuSE, but I don't.  I still
> >> recommend SuSE the most, but I __love__ the small footprint of Slackware.
> >>
> >> Comments?
> >>
> >> ---
> >> jonathan(a)aracnet.net
> >>
> >> Finagle's Creed:
> >>         Science is true.  Don't be misled by facts.
> >>
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> >Very well said, I agree.
> >
> >mc
> >
>=20
> You bet! I'm sort of new in the show, and my first try was (and indeed it
> still IS) slackware 3.4. I'm so satisfied with it, that I don't intend to
> change it, unless it's for a distribution with X11 3.3.2, and more apps.
>=20
> I guess the new version of SuSE is just like it, isnt it? Although I'd
> rather wait a little more, get really used to linux, XFree86, programming,
> and then I'll search for another distribution. Trying another in this case,
> will be mostly for experiencing purposes, as I said I like Slack. After
> all, as a friend said, all linux distributions are alike. they differ
> moslty in the installation process, as the kernel and the libs are the same
> for all.
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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Mon Apr  6 14:47:17 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape downloads go to sleep.
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 10:47:17 -0400
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Dee,

This is exactly what I was doing!  What version of Communicator?  I'm
running 4.04 Domestic Standard.  I'm having lots of trouble with Star
Office too, but that will be another thread.

Steve

W.D.McKinney wrote:

> thehaas(a)ravine.binary.net (Mike Hostetler) wrote:
> >
> >
> > I see the same thing.  I blame Netscape, not Linux (since I never had
> > this problem using Navigator 3, but just version 4).
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas???
> >
> > - mikeh
>
> I have downloaded so40_lnx_01.tar.gz 3 times with Communicator
> and had no problems. This from Anchorage, Alaska also.
> I've used the German site always.
>
> -Dee
>
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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Mon Apr  6 14:54:43 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Star Office locks up
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 10:54:43 -0400
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Perhaps this is better directed to the Star Division folks, but I'm not
sure if this is a Linux problem or a Star Office problem.  I downloaded
Star Office for Linux yesterday.  I installed it and fired it up.  Wow,
way cool!  Unfortunately it locks up after about ten minutes of use.  It
seems to happen when I am accessing menus.  Has anybody else seen this.
I tried both the single user and network installs.  If I get an answer
from the Star Office folks I'll post it here FYI.

Steve


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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Mon Apr  6 16:22:54 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Star Office locks up
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 12:22:54 -0400
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Steven T. Hatton wrote:

> Perhaps this is better directed to the Star Division folks, but I'm not
> sure if this is a Linux problem or a Star Office problem.  I downloaded
> Star Office for Linux yesterday.  I installed it and fired it up.  Wow,
> way cool!  Unfortunately it locks up after about ten minutes of use.  It
> seems to happen when I am accessing menus.  Has anybody else seen this.
> I tried both the single user and network installs.  If I get an answer
> from the Star Office folks I'll post it here FYI.
>
> Steve
>
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 Well, I found a NG for Linux/Unix.  I feel better that I am not alone.  It
seems that  there is a PS/2 mouse problem with Star Office.  One of the
things that I found was that I needed to upgrade the libc.so.5.4.33 to
5.4.44.  I ran into another problem doing that.  That's another thread.

Steve


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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Mon Apr  6 16:29:42 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Updating lib files
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 12:29:42 -0400
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I downloaded libc.so.5.4.44 and moved it to /lib.  I then tried to link
it to libc.so.5 and found that I could not overwrite the existing
link.   Well, I blew away the libc.so.5.  DON'T DO THAT!  None of my
basic shell commands would work.  I still had Netscape running so I went
in and saved the libc.so,5.4.44 as libc.so.5.  I started breathing
again.  It works, but it is not a sim link.  How would I go about doing
this correctly?

Steve


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From brauki@cww.de Mon Apr  6 19:00:29 1998
From: brauki@cww.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] MPPP
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 21:00:29 +0200
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Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
> 
> Can someone tell me if channel bundling is possible with S.u.S.E. Linux
> 5.1?

yes it is. it was discussed on the suse-isdn within the last days/week,
but i did not watch it. ;-(
and: I think your provider must support this too.

> 
> I tried to do like the docs said - isdnctrl adddlink ippp1, but it
> complains that no more links available (or something like that).
> 
> I compiled the kernel with MPPP for ISDN.
> 
yes, this was essential. but try suse-isdn. 
I am only familar with very _basic_ problems.

Jürgen


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From bb@suse.com Mon Apr  6 19:08:07 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Install Packages...
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 12:08:07 -0700
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Martin Moeller wrote:
>=20
> Hiya!
>=20
>  In S.u.S.E. Linux 5.1, it seem that you will not get the nice info
> included in .rpm files before you already have installed them. All you
> get is their version-number. I honestly think this should be expanded to
> be so close to the actual installation of the system (Description next
> to it, more below, even more with F2 + file listing). Or at least the F2
> option?
> If you 'less' the file you can see the info, equally so using Midnight
> Commander, so it should be possible, maybe even trivial, to include.
>=20
> Of course it may already be in S.u.S.E. Linux 5.2. If so, then great!

It's in 5.1 too.. :)

Try 'rpm -qpi ' to get the summary information  or 'rpm -qps '
to get the file list.

Ciao,
        BB


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From bb@suse.com Mon Apr  6 19:12:18 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Updating lib files
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 12:12:18 -0700
Message-ID: <35292912.DE4AA927@suse.com>
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Steven T. Hatton wrote:
>=20
> I downloaded libc.so.5.4.44 and moved it to /lib.  I then tried to link
> it to libc.so.5 and found that I could not overwrite the existing
> link.   Well, I blew away the libc.so.5.  DON'T DO THAT!  None of my
> basic shell commands would work.  I still had Netscape running so I went
> in and saved the libc.so,5.4.44 as libc.so.5.  I started breathing
> again.  It works, but it is not a sim link.  How would I go about doing
> this correctly?

Run 'ldconfig' this should link the newest minor version to libc.so.5.
But anyway, I would never update a inportant lib in a running system.
Better boot the rescue system from CD or floppy, mount you lib FS,=20
install the new lib and reboot your system...

Ciao,
        BB


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From kar@webline.dk Mon Apr  6 20:50:32 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Install Packages...
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 22:50:32 +0200
Message-ID: <199804062050.WAA11204@bohr.webline.dk>
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> Try 'rpm -qpi ' to get the summary information  or 'rpm -qps '
> to get the file list.

I believe the question was if YaST will include this option, if I
understood correctly?


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From frolija@texaco.com Mon Apr  6 21:07:10 1998
From: frolija@texaco.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 16:07:10 -0500
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I just tried to install wabi (from a .tgz file) and a problem arose.  I
looked through the wabi documentation and could find nothing on the error I
got.

Wabi is not licensed to run.  
After this, there is a message that says to look in
/etc/(somedirectoryicantremember)/licenses.wabi
is the error message I get.

Anybody have any ideas?
All of of the environment variables are set as the Wabi documentation shows,
and it is installed into /opt/wabi

I'm at a loss...

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From martin_moeller@ibm.net Mon Apr  6 21:54:17 1998
From: martin_moeller@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Install Packages...
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 22:54:17 +0100
Message-ID: <35294F09.583E@ibm.net>
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Bodo Bauer wrote:
> 
> Martin Moeller wrote:

[S.u.S.E. 5.1 YaST when choosing 'Install Packages' won't list
descriptions et al]
> It's in 5.1 too.. :)
> 
> Try 'rpm -qpi ' to get the summary information  or 'rpm -qps '
> to get the file list.
Thanks. I just don't see this option when, for instance, I try to
install an rpm-package from, say, /tmp using YaST, which is what I want,
so it is totally reminiscent of the actual OS install.


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From martin_moeller@ibm.net Mon Apr  6 21:56:02 1998
From: martin_moeller@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Updating lib files
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 22:56:02 +0100
Message-ID: <35294F72.2F80@ibm.net>
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Steven T. Hatton wrote:
> 
> I downloaded libc.so.5.4.44 and moved it to /lib.  I then tried to link
> it to libc.so.5 and found that I could not overwrite the existing
> link.   Well, I blew away the libc.so.5.  DON'T DO THAT!  None of my
> basic shell commands would work.  I still had Netscape running so I went
> in and saved the libc.so,5.4.44 as libc.so.5.  I started breathing
> again.  It works, but it is not a sim link.  How would I go about doing
> this correctly?
> 
You *could* have done a 'ln -s --force libc.so.5.4.44 libc.so.5', but
Bodo's solution(s) is probably much safer...


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From mhtexcollins@ccms.net Tue Apr  7 00:32:17 1998
From: mhtexcollins@ccms.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 19:32:17 -0500
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    I am trying to get sounds for different keyboard events.=20
I found the module stuff, read the man pages, pushed the buttons told it
to save the desktop everything I can think of.  Is there a step by
step set of instructions to get this working so it stays on all the time.=20
In all those pages of reading I do not think it is in there.

Perhaps a small script We could copy that would turn everything on to
begin with and then we have to worry about turning it off.  I like
bells and whistles.

Like having to recompile the kernal for sound when I had loaded sound
programs up It should have done the kernal or a module there. =20
But I got by that with yalls help so please I'm askin' again..Help[.

And thanks again.

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From mhtexcollins@ccms.net Tue Apr  7 00:40:53 1998
From: mhtexcollins@ccms.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Virtual screen?
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 19:40:53 -0500
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    I have a s3virgedx with 4 megs and a vga monitor.=20
What is the best rez I can run and can I run the virtual screen.=20
If so please tell me how to set it up.  I have xf86config =20
ed it a few different ways, and XF86Setup it different ways, and so far
cannot hit the sweet spot.  My taskbar reaches beyond the end of my
screens in wfwm2 and tkdesk so I don't even know what is on the ends.=20
It may not be possible on this vga but my friend says his is doing it ..Not
SuSe.  I read the mans forever and over and over.. Please help..

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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Tue Apr  7 01:33:16 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PS/2 & Intellimouse
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 01:33:16 +0000
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I downloaded Star Office 40 Yesterday.  I had some major problems 
that, according to the Star Division NG, were caused by using a PS/2 
type mouse.  I also had problems earlier using my Intellimouse.  I 
know at one point I had upgraded the Xfree86 3.3.2.  I don't remember 
what else it took to make this work.  I had my Intellimouse working as 
a typical 3 button mouse. 

When I thought the Intellimouse was the problem I grabbed my old 
serial mouse off my windows 95 486 and set it up to work on my Linux 
system.  This verified to me that the problem with Star Office was 
indeed the mouse.  I then downloaded a patch from Star Division that 
was supposed to fix the mouse problem.  I went to put the imps2 mouse 
back in, using XF86Setup. That option is no longer there.  The 
Intellimouse option that is displayed does not work at all. 
This system has been rebootted, reconfigured, reassembled, upgraded, 
crashed, broken, repaired, and who knows what else, in the last three 
weeks that I have been using Linux.  I cannot for the life of me 
remember what I did to get the Intellimouse working.  Can anybody help me?
BTW, it looked to me like the Star Division folks were claiming Linux 
support for PS/2 mice is a bit shaky.  I know I am not having a good 
time of things right now.
Steve


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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Tue Apr  7 01:59:51 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Star Office locks up
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 01:59:51 +0000
Message-ID: <19980407.1595100@Lakshmana.sprintmail.com>
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I hope you all don't mind my talking to myself here. 

I did find that the problem was the mouse I was using.  The 
libc.so.5.4.44 didn't fix it.  There is a patch out on Star Division's 
page that I would like to try, if I could only figure out how to get 
my Intellimouse back in the system :-(

The reason I am posting this here is because it may help a S.u.S.E 
user avoid the same pain that I am going through.  I started another 
thread about my rodent woes that has a more relevant 
title. 

BTW, Star Office is looking really good now that it is reasonably 
stable.  Lots of cool features.  When they get it SSL enabled for 
client side certificate authentication I will never need another 
office suite.  I have had a couple of 'controlled' crashes in which 
all my data was recovered.  Not sure what's up with that. 

Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Messsage <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 06.04.98, 18:16:01, "Steven T. Hatton" 
 wrote regarding Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] 
Star Office locks up:

> 
> Steven T. Hatton wrote:
> 
> > Perhaps this is better directed to the Star Division folks, but I'm 
not
> > sure if this is a Linux problem or a Star Office problem.  I 
downloaded
> > Star Office for Linux yesterday.  I installed it and fired it up.  
Wow,
> > way cool!  Unfortunately it locks up after about ten minutes of use. 
 It
> > seems to happen when I am accessing menus.  Has anybody else seen 
this.
> > I tried both the single user and network installs.  If I get an 
answer
> > from the Star Office folks I'll post it here FYI.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > --
> > "Alles Vergaengliche
> > Ist nur ein Gleichniss"
> > -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber 
Gastheorie.
> >
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> 
>  Well, I found a NG for Linux/Unix.  I feel better that I am not 
alone.  It
> seems that  there is a PS/2 mouse problem with Star Office.  One of 
the
> things that I found was that I needed to upgrade the libc.so.5.4.33 to
> 5.4.44.  I ran into another problem doing that.  That's another 
thread.
> 
> Steve
> 
> --
> "Alles Vergaengliche
> Ist nur ein Gleichniss"
> -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber 
Gastheorie.
> 
> 
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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Tue Apr  7 02:00:59 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Star Office locks up
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 02:00:59 +0000
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I hope you all don't mind my talking to myself here. 

I did find that the problem was the mouse I was using.  The 
libc.so.5.4.44 didn't fix it.  There is a patch out on Star Division's 
page that I would like to try, if I could only figure out how to get 
my Intellimouse back in the system :-(

The reason I am posting this here is because it may help a S.u.S.E 
user avoid the same pain that I am going through.  I started another 
thread about my rodent woes that has a more relevant 
title. 

BTW, Star Office is looking really good now that it is reasonably 
stable.  Lots of cool features.  When they get it SSL enabled for 
client side certificate authentication I will never need another 
office suite.  I have had a couple of 'controlled' crashes in which 
all my data was recovered.  Not sure what's up with that. 

Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Messsage <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 06.04.98, 18:16:01, "Steven T. Hatton" 
 wrote regarding Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] 
Star Office locks up:

> 
> Steven T. Hatton wrote:
> 
> > Perhaps this is better directed to the Star Division folks, but I'm 
not
> > sure if this is a Linux problem or a Star Office problem.  I 
downloaded
> > Star Office for Linux yesterday.  I installed it and fired it up.  
Wow,
> > way cool!  Unfortunately it locks up after about ten minutes of use. 
 It
> > seems to happen when I am accessing menus.  Has anybody else seen 
this.
> > I tried both the single user and network installs.  If I get an 
answer
> > from the Star Office folks I'll post it here FYI.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > --
> > "Alles Vergaengliche
> > Ist nur ein Gleichniss"
> > -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber 
Gastheorie.
> >
> > --
> > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com 
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> > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
> 
>  Well, I found a NG for Linux/Unix.  I feel better that I am not 
alone.  It
> seems that  there is a PS/2 mouse problem with Star Office.  One of 
the
> things that I found was that I needed to upgrade the libc.so.5.4.33 to
> 5.4.44.  I ran into another problem doing that.  That's another 
thread.
> 
> Steve
> 
> --
> "Alles Vergaengliche
> Ist nur ein Gleichniss"
> -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber 
Gastheorie.
> 
> 
> 
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From tpaulic@hotmail.com Tue Apr  7 02:14:28 1998
From: tpaulic@hotmail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] USR Sportster Modem Setup
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 19:14:28 -0700
Message-ID: <19980407021428.7386.qmail@hotmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <[S.u.S.E. Linux] USR Sportster Modem Setup>
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if your modem is plug and play (and i think it is), you will also have=20
to install isapnptools and configure linux to recognize your pnp=20
devices. I had to do the same with my Motorolla VoiceSrfr to get it to=20
work. It's pretty tricky to do as well. Linux doesn't like plug and play=20
devices.

<>

>Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 12:41:28 -0500
>From: denis miller 
>To: "suse-linux-e(a)suse.com" 
>Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] USR Sportster Modem Setup
>Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
>
>
>I am unable to get my modem to start the dial sequence.  It is a USR
>Sportster 28.8 Faxmodem.
>I have run PPPsetup.v.1.98 by Kent Robotti and when I enter ppp-go
>nothing happens.  I have redone the setup three times with no
>improvement.
>Any ideas would be appreciated.  I have also tried both the default
>initialization in the script and "AT&F1" as per the modem manual.
>I am running 5.1. on a Pentium 100
>
>
>Denis
>
>
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From waf@awod.com Tue Apr  7 03:00:59 1998
From: waf@awod.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] modem initialization
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 23:00:59 -0400
Message-ID: <000b01bd61d1$653e9020$27618cd0@waf.awod.com>
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I am trying to connect to the Internet us=
ing=20
Suse Linux 5.1 and I can't get by Boca Research 33,600 ACF Internal modem=20
detected by Linux (i.e the PnP card isn't recognized). What program(s) do I u=
se=20
to get the card recognized at startup? I can't figure out the isapnptools. An=
y=20
suggestions?


 


-Gene Flanagin-


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From waf@awod.com Tue Apr  7 03:18:26 1998
From: waf@awod.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Modem
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 23:18:26 -0400
Message-ID: <003101bd61d3$d5436740$27618cd0@waf.awod.com>
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I am trying to connect to the Internet us=
ing=20
Suse Linux 5.1 and I can't get by Boca Research 33,600 ACF Internal modem=20
detected by Linux (i.e the PnP card isn't recognized). What program(s) do I u=
se=20
to get the card recognized at startup? I can't figure out the isapnptools. An=
y=20
suggestions?


 


-Gene Flanagin-


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From hettar@teleport.com Tue Apr  7 05:39:10 1998
From: hettar@teleport.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Hey it is May 6th where is my SuSE 5.2!
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 22:39:10 -0700
Message-ID: <3529BBFE.25003D79@teleport.com>
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/me looks in the mail box, hey no SuSE 5.2!
Money for nothing, chicks for free, I want my mtv, oopse SuSE 5.2

Hope you pack a shirt with that :P prob not..(black pls)

How about by next SuSE we can see packages of
GNOME
1.3 Enlightenment
Star Office 5.0!! (hey its German) Applix isn't
CivFree!
a SuSE T-shirt (black!)
Some ports of "retail dos games"
What else?

Hey a good way to unload you old SuSE disk
if give them to a friend! Don't be useing them=20
as frisbees!

How about writting an English version of the
SuSE update by FTP mirroring and NFS/FTP
page! :P~ or heck I will have to learn German.
Ok give me excuses...


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From netsomni@fastrans.net Tue Apr  7 13:26:14 1998
From: netsomni@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Recompiling Xanim.
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:26:14 +0000
Message-ID: <199804071825.NAA18304@maat.fastrans.net>
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Keep the makefile and try to use make instead of Imake.

> Date:          Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:03:48 +0800 (SGT)
> From:          Ow W K Danny 
> To:            suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Subject:       [S.u.S.E. Linux] Recompiling Xanim.
> Reply-to:      suse-linux-e(a)suse.com

> 
> Hi,
> I Been trying to recompile xanim from SuSE. As usual, I used YaST to
> install "Xanim-2.70.63-3.src.rpm" to get the source. When I run "xmkmf" as
> according to the documentation, the message below appears:
> 
> xmkmf:
> mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak
> imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
> Imakefile.c:13: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory
> imake: Exit code 33.
>   Stop.
> ===============================
> 
> Did I miss something? I using SuSE 5.1.
> 
> Any poiters or help is deeply appreciated.
> 
> Danny
> 
> 
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From luis@lac.resonet.com Tue Apr  7 15:03:28 1998
From: luis@lac.resonet.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] modem initialization
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:03:28 -0400
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On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, GF wrote:

> I am trying to connect to the Internet using Suse Linux 5.1 and I can't
> get by Boca Research 33,600 ACF Internal modem detected by Linux (i.e
> the PnP card isn't recognized). What program(s) do I use to get the card
> recognized at startup? I can't figure out the isapnptools. Any
> suggestions? 

I don't know if the modem will get detected with linux tools like under
windows, I'd be surprised.  

I wouldn't worry about it though, just store the proper initialization
string in the modems NVRAM  (Non Volatile RAM).


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From jkarns@ares.csd.net Tue Apr  7 15:39:01 1998
From: jkarns@ares.csd.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:39:01 -0600
Message-ID: 
In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980403222515.00e0843c@netcom.ca>
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There should be a file named Makefile in the same directory as the *.cc or
*.c files.  Just type "make" and you're off.

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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Ron Lavoie wrote:

>=20
> Her is the README.  There's no INSTALL.  All the other files look like
> scripts, without instructions.
>=20
> PPPWizard is distributed under the GNU Public License.
>=20
> Enjoy! It may be crude but I hacked it together in a few hours.
>=20
> I will work on it more as I catch potential bugs, or ways
> 	to make it more efficient.
>=20
> Please Email any fixes or suggestions to jeffi(a)erols.com.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> At 18:57 98-04-03 PST, you wrote:
> >
> >There should be a README or INSTALL file in there. The instructions to=20
> >compile it are in there.
> >
> ><>
> >
> >>Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 07:12:38 -0500
> >>To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> >>From: Ron Lavoie 
> >>Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
> >>Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> >>
> >>
> >>I downloaded PPPWizard as well, but I don't know what to do with the=20
> >files.
> >> Many of the are in the for *.cc
> >>Does that mean they have to be compiled?  How do I do it?
> >>
> >>At 19:15 98-03-31 PST, you wrote:
> >>>
> >>>oops. it moved. I found it in=20
> >>>
> >>>ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/systems/linux/=
sunsite/system/network/seria>
> >>l/ppp/
> >>>
> >>>called pppsetup-1.98.tar.gz
> >>>
> >>><>
> >>
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From jkarns@ares.csd.net Tue Apr  7 15:48:11 1998
From: jkarns@ares.csd.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] modem initialization
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:48:11 -0600
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There is a Linux package called "pnptools" for dealing with pnp hardware,
but you will have to do some twiddling - it's not automatic.  Hopefully it
won't be too long and the kernel will be designed to deal with pnp without
user setup.  ALso make sure it's not a Winmodem; if so get another modem.
If you get an external modem, you won't have to deal with pnp.

Try sending mail as plain ASCII, and you might get better results with
answers.  This is what someone sees in Pine or any non-html mail handler:

Parts/attachments:
   1   OK    ~8 lines  Text (charset: ISO-8859-1)
   2        ~22 lines  Text (charset: ISO-8859-1)
----------------------------------------

  [Part 1, Text/PLAIN (charset: ISO-8859-1 "Latin 1")  8 lines]
  [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part]

  [Part 2, Text/HTML (charset: ISO-8859-1 "Latin 1")  22 lines]
  [Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file]

On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, GF wrote:

> I am trying to connect to the Internet using Suse Linux 5.1 and I can't get=
 by Boca Research 33,600 ACF Internal modem detected by Linux (i.e the PnP ca=
rd isn't recognized). What program(s) do I use to get the card recognized at =
startup? I can't figure out the isapnptools. Any suggestions?
>=20
> -Gene Flanagin-
> Linux Kicks Ass
>=20

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From rkeeley@dibbs.net Tue Apr  7 15:57:14 1998
From: rkeeley@dibbs.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Saving whats in xwindows
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 10:57:14 -0500
Message-ID: <352A4CD9.2A49FD9D@dibbs.net>
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How do you leave Xwindows yet save what you have set up in
there?
When I first load Xwindows, many of the windows are too big.
I have to change them and reduce them to
size and move them about and etc. Yet when I have to depart
Xwindows all of this work is forgotten, and I
want to know how to "save " what I have previously done.
    I am still learning how to set up my Xwindows so that
this will not be a problem, but if I could "save"
the info, then I would not have to even set it up correctly.

    I realize this is not quite an SuSE problem, but will
have some of those shortly.


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From owwkd@cybernix.com.sg Tue Apr  7 16:03:48 1998
From: owwkd@cybernix.com.sg
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Recompiling Xanim.
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 00:03:48 +0800
Message-ID: 
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Hi,
I Been trying to recompile xanim from SuSE. As usual, I used YaST to
install "Xanim-2.70.63-3.src.rpm" to get the source. When I run "xmkmf" as
according to the documentation, the message below appears:

xmkmf:
mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak
imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
Imakefile.c:13: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory
imake: Exit code 33.
  Stop.
===============================

Did I miss something? I using SuSE 5.1.

Any poiters or help is deeply appreciated.

Danny


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From owwkd@cybernix.com.sg Tue Apr  7 16:13:03 1998
From: owwkd@cybernix.com.sg
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Modem
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 00:13:03 +0800
Message-ID: 
In-Reply-To: <003101bd61d3$d5436740$27618cd0@waf.awod.com>
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Hi,

Did you install the isapnptool, if you did, try running "pnpdump >
isapnp.dump". Then, you edit this file, isapnp.dump. When you are
satisfied, run "isapnp isapnp.dump" and see if your "Plug and Pray" card
is initialised. Read "man pnpdump" and "man isapnp.conf" will help.

Good Luck,
Danny

On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, GF wrote:

> I am trying to connect to the Internet using Suse Linux 5.1 and I can't
> get by Boca Research 33,600 ACF Internal modem detected by Linux (i.e
> the PnP card isn't recognized). What program(s) do I use to get the card
> recognized at startup? I can't figure out the isapnptools. Any
> suggestions? 
>  
> -Gene Flanagin-
> Linux Kicks Ass
> 


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From rkeeley@dibbs.net Tue Apr  7 16:13:30 1998
From: rkeeley@dibbs.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Susewm
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:13:30 -0500
Message-ID: <352A50A9.CA51C0A9@dibbs.net>
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Hi folks,
    On page 229 of the manual it shows menus that I don't
have, yet I supposely brought up the SuSE
Xwindows. specifically I want "Susewm Keys" and "View System
Wide Configuration File".
    Maybe this is an error on your part, but I suspect it
might be mine. Anyhow, please advise how I can bring up
Xwindows like is shown on page 229.


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From rkeeley@dibbs.net Tue Apr  7 16:21:02 1998
From: rkeeley@dibbs.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colors
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:21:02 -0500
Message-ID: <352A526D.3307D434@dibbs.net>
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Good people,
    On page 235 of the manual, it says press the right
button then in the "Everything" meun there should be
"System" then "Information" and then "colors". I don't have
this option. Under other linuxs I could actually
see the colors. Under Suse I don't have the option. I loaded
a plain ole vanilla SuSE required linux, but mine
is not quite like the one in the manual. Point me in the
right direction......


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From rkeeley@dibbs.net Tue Apr  7 16:25:46 1998
From: rkeeley@dibbs.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printing in Xwindows
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:25:46 -0500
Message-ID: <352A5387.EBC9B0F0@dibbs.net>
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Good People,
    I realize this is not quite a SuSe problem, but it
should be an easy one to answer.
I the file ".fvwm2rc" there is a place for printing, but
nothing is there. I want to print
the screen while I am in Xwindows, and I suspect it is up to
me to add something some-
where, but what?
    The printer is working fine and all, but I want to know
the command to print what is on the screen, if
it is possible.


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From zentara@mindspring.com Tue Apr  7 16:53:16 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 12:53:16 -0400
Message-ID: <352A59FC.26E37483@mindspring.com>
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Frolick, Joseph A wrote:
> 
> I just tried to install wabi (from a .tgz file) and a problem arose.  I
> looked through the wabi documentation and could find nothing on the error I
> got.
> 
> Wabi is not licensed to run.
> After this, there is a message that says to look in
> /etc/(somedirectoryicantremember)/licenses.wabi
> is the error message I get.
> 
> Anybody have any ideas?
> All of of the environment variables are set as the Wabi documentation shows,
> and it is installed into /opt/wabi
> 
> I'm at a loss...
> --

Hi,
Do you have win3.1 installed somewhere?
WABI does not run by itself, it must
have a licensed copy of win3.1.

Also, you must do the original
WABI install as root, not a user.

zentara


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From zentara@mindspring.com Tue Apr  7 17:01:47 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] modem initialization
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:01:47 -0400
Message-ID: <352A5BFB.895FF020@mindspring.com>
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> GF wrote:
> 
> I am trying to connect to the Internet using Suse Linux 5.1 and I
> can't get by Boca Research 33,600 ACF Internal modem detected by Linux
> (i.e the PnP card isn't recognized). What program(s) do I use to get
> the card recognized at startup? I can't figure out the isapnptools.
> Any suggestions?
> 
You have to edit your isapnp.conf and enter the
address and irq.

Enter the following:

pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf

Also, make sure you don't have your motherboards
second com port set to the same irq.

See how the lines are uncommented, and
the base address and irq are entered ?

#############################################################
# isapnp.conf for a pnp cardinal modem
# Card 2: (serial identifier 4c 74 29 38 0e 00 00 44 0e)
# ANSI string -->Cardinal MVP288I2  <--

(CONFIGURE CRD0000/1948858382 (LD 0
(IO 0 (BASE 0x02f8))
(INT 0 (IRQ 3 (MODE +L)))
(ACT Y)
))
(WAITFORKEY)

################################################################

zentara


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From rhumbert@avignon.pacwan.net Tue Apr  7 17:29:19 1998
From: rhumbert@avignon.pacwan.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 19:29:19 +0200
Message-ID: <352A626F.B333031C@avignon.pacwan.net>
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Jaeha Lee wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I guess, somebody want to install PPP connection.
> if so, try EzPPP.
>
>         http://www.serv.net/~ca=
meron/ezppp/index.html>
>
> get binery file, then install.
>
> Cheers
> jae
>
>

 I worked hard since i succeed in configuring my ISP connection and i agree w=
ith
you, Ezppp is a very nice program. I wish S.u.S.E 5.1 provided it, it would be
much easier to get ppp running
Take a look at the Ezppp-howto, there's some very useful tips, especiallly if=
 your
ISP uses PAP identification.

Cheers


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From jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu Tue Apr  7 17:45:58 1998
From: jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Recompiling Xanim.
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:45:58 -0400
Message-ID: <199804071745.NAA32597@ox.slug.louisville.edu>
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>=20
> Hi,
> I Been trying to recompile xanim from SuSE. As usual, I used YaST to
> install "Xanim-2.70.63-3.src.rpm" to get the source. When I run "xmkmf" as
> according to the documentation, the message below appears:
>=20
> xmkmf:
> mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak
> imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
> Imakefile.c:13: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory
> imake: Exit code 33.
>   Stop.
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>=20
> Did I miss something? I using SuSE 5.1.
>=20
> Any poiters or help is deeply appreciated.
>=20
> Danny
>=20
>=20
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>=20

        I believe that you need to have imake installed...  it works a little=
 differantly than make...   Also make sure that you have you Makefile configu=
red correctly for linux...  I compiled on a HP700 and I had to go in and chan=
ge some of the config's for that particular setup (even though it said the HP=
 options have be implemented... etc...)

        Good Luck...

                                                Jonathan

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         =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

                           Jonathan Paul Cowherd
                        jpcowh01(a)slug.louisville.edu
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edu/~jpcowh01>

This is my world and I am...                           World Leader Pretend
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From bb@suse.com Tue Apr  7 18:09:37 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Recompiling Xanim.
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:09:37 -0700
Message-ID: <352A6BE1.1375BFAF@suse.com>
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Ow W K Danny wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
> I Been trying to recompile xanim from SuSE. As usual, I used YaST to
> install "Xanim-2.70.63-3.src.rpm" to get the source. When I run "xmkmf" as
> according to the documentation, the message below appears:
>=20
> xmkmf:
> mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak
> imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
> Imakefile.c:13: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory
> imake: Exit code 33.
>   Stop.
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>=20
> Did I miss something? I using SuSE 5.1.
>=20
> Any poiters or help is deeply appreciated.

Use rpm to compile it:

   cd /usr/src/packages/SPECS
   rpm -bc 

This patches and compiles the package, to compile and install use

   rpm -ba 

LKook into the RPM HOWTO for more info on using rpm...

Ciao,
        BB

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From jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu Tue Apr  7 18:23:43 1998
From: jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Susewm
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:23:43 -0400
Message-ID: <199804071823.OAA00830@ox.slug.louisville.edu>
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>=20
> Hi folks,
>     On page 229 of the manual it shows menus that I don't
> have, yet I supposely brought up the SuSE
> Xwindows. specifically I want "Susewm Keys" and "View System
> Wide Configuration File".
>     Maybe this is an error on your part, but I suspect it
> might be mine. Anyhow, please advise how I can bring up
> Xwindows like is shown on page 229.
>=20

        I believe there's either a .fvwm2rc or a .susewmrc file somewhere on =
the system, and you can go in and change the menu setup for youre machines...=
  I believe the suse people  used this screen shot from one of their machines=
 and it's configured for their personal usage...

                                                Jon

P.S.	My configuration automatically has those options in them...

> --
> 73's
>=20
> Roy KC4IMC
>=20
> rkeeley(a)dibbs.net
> kc4imc(a)maf.wa4wbi.ampr.org
> Snail Mail =3D 10675 Salt Aire Rd, E., Theodore, AL 36582, USA
>=20
> APS #158954 - C&LS #162
>=20
>=20
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                           Jonathan Paul Cowherd
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From jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu Tue Apr  7 18:27:19 1998
From: jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colors
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:27:19 -0400
Message-ID: <199804071827.OAA00921@ox.slug.louisville.edu>
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>=20
> Good people,
>     On page 235 of the manual, it says press the right
> button then in the "Everything" meun there should be
> "System" then "Information" and then "colors". I don't have
> this option. Under other linuxs I could actually
> see the colors. Under Suse I don't have the option. I loaded
> a plain ole vanilla SuSE required linux, but mine
> is not quite like the one in the manual. Point me in the
> right direction......
>=20

        It sounds as if you have the wrong window manager loaded...  Make sur=
e you are running fvwm2 and you'll have that...  go back and see what rpm wer=
e loaded...

                                        Jonathan

> --
> 73's
>=20
> Roy KC4IMC
>=20
> rkeeley(a)dibbs.net
> kc4imc(a)maf.wa4wbi.ampr.org
> Snail Mail =3D 10675 Salt Aire Rd, E., Theodore, AL 36582, USA
>=20
> APS #158954 - C&LS #162
>=20
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                           Jonathan Paul Cowherd
                        jpcowh01(a)slug.louisville.edu
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From misc.word.corp@pobox.com Tue Apr  7 19:23:30 1998
From: misc.word.corp@pobox.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:23:30 -0500
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I'm also an ezppp user, but I've been finding that I occasionally lose
write and/or execute permissions after using ezppp's "configuration"
utility to change modem init strings and the like.

The files whose w/x permissions are affected are pppd and resolv.conf,
rendering ezppp useless until permissions are restored.

Anybody have a similar problem? It's a small annoyance, but nonetheless
. . .

Glenn Sullivan


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From deem@wdm.com Tue Apr  7 21:38:12 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:38:12 -0800
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"Rigis HUMBERT"  wrote:
>=20
> Jaeha Lee wrote:
>=20
> > Hi,
> >
> > I guess, somebody want to install PPP connection.
> > if so, try EzPPP.
> >
> >         http://www.serv.net/~ca=
meron/ezppp/index.html>
> >
> > get binery file, then install.
> >
> > Cheers
> > jae
> >
> >
>=20
>  I worked hard since i succeed in configuring my ISP connection and i agree=
 with
> you, Ezppp is a very nice program. I wish S.u.S.E 5.1 provided it, it would=
 be
> much easier to get ppp running
> Take a look at the Ezppp-howto, there's some very useful tips, especiallly =
if your
> ISP uses PAP identification.
>=20
> Cheers
>=20

X-ISP works wonderfully well, and my ISP uses PAP also.
I'd recommend this xforms app as the best ppp app for dialup.
See http://users.hol.gr/~dbouras/download=
.html>

Regards
-Dee


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From adcarlso@visinet.ca Wed Apr  8 01:18:34 1998
From: adcarlso@visinet.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Dark Printing
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 21:18:34 -0400
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Has anyone who may have an HP DeskJet printer (I have a 600C) experienced dark
printing when using apsfilter?

Mine almost "spews" out ink, particularly when printing in black.  At the very
least it is much darker than using the printer from other operating systems
(OS2, Wimpdoze)

Could anyone suggest a possible solution?

Thanks
----------------------------------
Arlen Carlson
adcarlso(a)visinet.ca

Real Users know your home telephone number.

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From adcarlso@visinet.ca Wed Apr  8 01:21:31 1998
From: adcarlso@visinet.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printing Problem from StarOffice
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 21:21:31 -0400
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Further on the subject of printing problems, has anyone experienced problems
printing from StarOffice?  I get segmentation errors, except when I am using
one of the graphical applications (i.e. printing purely graphics).  Basically
StarWriter is unusable.

I have also experienced this with certain pages from Netscape (particularly
pages with frames).

However, other apps work (Ghostscript, Adobe Reader), basic ASCII, etc.

Thanks
----------------------------------
Arlen Carlson
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From rkeeley@dibbs.net Wed Apr  8 01:28:32 1998
From: rkeeley@dibbs.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Susewm
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:28:32 -0500
Message-ID: <352AD2BF.54F2DBC7@dibbs.net>
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World Leader Pretend wrote:

> >
> > Hi folks,
> >     On page 229 of the manual it shows menus that I don't
> > have, yet I supposely brought up the SuSE
> > Xwindows. specifically I want "Susewm Keys" and "View System
> > Wide Configuration File".
> >     Maybe this is an error on your part, but I suspect it
> > might be mine. Anyhow, please advise how I can bring up
> > Xwindows like is shown on page 229.
> >
>
>         I believe there's either a .fvwm2rc or a .susewmrc file somewhere o=
n the system, and you can go in and change the menu setup for youre machines.=
..  I believe the suse people  used this screen shot from one of their machin=
es and it's configured for their personal usage...
>
>                                                 Jon
>
> P.S.    My configuration automatically has those options in them...

Jon,
I have the file .fvwm2rc in my home directory, and it was a factory file, and=
 it does not have these options in them. I am running
5.1. I origanally had 5 I believe, when the factory sent me another upgrade a=
nd I installed that. I no longer remember what the file
had on the earlier version, but the one I am using now doesn't have it. I am =
wondering why????
    I have got to check on that .susewmrc file tho'. Was not aware of that on=
e at all.


--
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From rkeeley@dibbs.net Wed Apr  8 01:30:49 1998
From: rkeeley@dibbs.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colors
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:30:49 -0500
Message-ID: <352AD349.B4047B05@dibbs.net>
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Jon,
Same as the other letter; my .fvwm2rc doesn't have "colors" in it's options. =
Why? How do I get it there?
Could I ask what your line in the file says? I could then put it in.

World Leader Pretend wrote:

> >
> > Good people,
> >     On page 235 of the manual, it says press the right
> > button then in the "Everything" meun there should be
> > "System" then "Information" and then "colors". I don't have
> > this option. Under other linuxs I could actually
> > see the colors. Under Suse I don't have the option. I loaded
> > a plain ole vanilla SuSE required linux, but mine
> > is not quite like the one in the manual. Point me in the
> > right direction......
> >
>
>         It sounds as if you have the wrong window manager loaded...  Make s=
ure you are running fvwm2 and you'll have that...  go back and see what rpm w=
ere loaded...
>
>                                         Jonathan
>
> > --
> > 73's
> >
> > Roy KC4IMC
> >
> > rkeeley(a)dibbs.net
> > kc4imc(a)maf.wa4wbi.ampr.org
> > Snail Mail =3D 10675 Salt Aire Rd, E., Theodore, AL 36582, USA
> >
> > APS #158954 - C&LS #162
> >
> >
> > --
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>
>                            Jonathan Paul Cowherd
>                         jpcowh01(a)slug.louisville.edu
>                   http://www.slug.louisvill=
e.edu/~jpcowh01>
>
> This is my world and I am...                           World Leader Pretend
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From owwkd@cybernix.com.sg Wed Apr  8 02:16:06 1998
From: owwkd@cybernix.com.sg
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Recompiling Xanim.
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 10:16:06 +0800
Message-ID: 
In-Reply-To: <199804071745.NAA32597@ox.slug.louisville.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hi,

Thanks for your responses. Found that I did not install the xdeveloper's
kit. It compiled beautifully after installation and now can play .avi with
graphics.

Thanks once again.
Danny

>=20
> >=20
> > Hi,
> > I Been trying to recompile xanim from SuSE. As usual, I used YaST to
> > install "Xanim-2.70.63-3.src.rpm" to get the source. When I run "xmkmf" as
> > according to the documentation, the message below appears:
> >=20
> > xmkmf:
> > mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak
> > imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
> > Imakefile.c:13: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory
> > imake: Exit code 33.
> >   Stop.
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >=20
> > Did I miss something? I using SuSE 5.1.
> >=20
> > Any poiters or help is deeply appreciated.
> >=20
> > Danny
> >=20
> >=20
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> >=20
>=20
> 	I believe that you need to have imake installed...  it works a little diff=
erantly than make...   Also make sure that you have you Makefile configured c=
orrectly for linux...  I compiled on a HP700 and I had to go in and change so=
me of the config's for that particular setup (even though it said the HP opti=
ons have be implemented... etc...)
>=20
> 	Good Luck...
>=20
> 						Jonathan
> --=20
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D                                          =
           =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>=20
>                            Jonathan Paul Cowherd
>                         jpcowh01(a)slug.louisville.edu
>                   http://www.slug.louisvill=
e.edu/~jpcowh01>
>=20
> This is my world and I am...                           World Leader Pretend
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D                                          =
           =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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From pwlwcz@ibm.net Wed Apr  8 02:42:05 1998
From: pwlwcz@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] fm radio card
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 22:42:05 -0400
Message-ID: <352AE3FD.364B85DE@ibm.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hello,
     I have one of those Aztech/Packard Bell fm radio cards. Has anyone
successfully got it working under SuSE 5.1? And if so How? Keep it as
simple as possible... everytime I start ungzippin' untarrin' and makin'
things it gets ugly...

Steve


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From galeksei@hotmail.com Wed Apr  8 02:43:33 1998
From: galeksei@hotmail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: No Subject
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 19:43:33 -0700
Message-ID: <19980408024333.17176.qmail@hotmail.com>
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Hi=20
It seems that my root password is lost.
When i try "su" or "login root"
I get message "Your password is inactive Contact the system=20
administrator"
and i can`t edit my /etc/passwd
Please help me!!!=20

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From galeksei@hotmail.com Wed Apr  8 02:53:34 1998
From: galeksei@hotmail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] please help
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 19:53:34 -0700
Message-ID: <19980408025334.24929.qmail@hotmail.com>
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Hi
It seems that i`ve lost my root password.
When i try "su" I get message "Sorry"
Does anybody know how to recover /etc/passwrd
with user account.
Please help!!
 =20

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From jonathan@aracnet.net Wed Apr  8 03:02:55 1998
From: jonathan@aracnet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: FW: Undeliverable: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiling xcopilot
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 23:02:55 -0400
Message-ID: 
In-Reply-To: 
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OK here's a confusing one...  Who's using MicroStink Exchange to route a Linux
list!?

I work with excHANGe, that should be punishment enough.

Anyone else get something like this?

-----FW: -----
Your message

  To:      suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
  Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiling xcopilot
  Sent:    Sat, 21 Mar 1998 05:42:45 +0100

did not reach the following recipient(s):

LINUX(a)ENTERPRISE-HR.COM on Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:48:45 +0100
    Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure
    MSEXCH:IMS:Enterprise Human Resources:P75:P75 0 (000C05A6) Unknown
Recipient

--------------End of forwarded message-------------------------


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Has anyone successfully compiled xcopilot out there?

First, it won't compile because some headers are missing; X11/Xpm.h and
X11/Xext.h but I can't find out where they are in the distribution!

Second, it dies messily after it loses the files above, almost like the
source
is corrupted.  I'm probably wrong, but does anyone have a precompiled
binary
anywhere (if that's possible)?  I just got a Pilot and have the ultimate
goal
of programming for it (BTW Linux pilot-link software is AWESOME)

Thanks

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From billmadsen@worldnet.att.net Wed Apr  8 03:06:23 1998
From: billmadsen@worldnet.att.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Trouble with Netscape mail function
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 03:06:23 +0000
Message-ID: <352ae82d.3106459@mailhost.worldnet.att.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8425517187991750509=="

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit




Now that I have a ppp connection with ATT Worldnet (thanks to the good
advice I received from this group), I'd like to set up Netscape 4.04
(Navigator/Communicator) to handle my e-mail, but when I tell it that
my incoming mail is handled by postoffice.worldnet.att.net, I get an
error message telling me that Netscape never heard of postoffice etc.
So I must be doing something radically wrong, and I would appreciate
some more good advice.  

Thanks in advance.

Bill Madsen in St. Louis

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From jpcowh01@dragon.slug.louisville.edu Wed Apr  8 05:10:09 1998
From: jpcowh01@dragon.slug.louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] please help
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 01:10:09 -0400
Message-ID: <199804080510.BAA17615@dragon.slug.louisville.edu>
In-Reply-To: <19980408025334.24929.qmail@hotmail.com>
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>=20
> Hi
> It seems that i`ve lost my root password.
> When i try "su" I get message "Sorry"
> Does anybody know how to recover /etc/passwrd
> with user account.
> Please help!!
>  =20
>=20

        It seems that either you lost you password or that your machine has b=
een hacked...  What you need is a rescue disk...  either download one from su=
se or use a your suse bootdisk to boot installed system... under yast...

                                                Jonathan
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         =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

                           Jonathan Paul Cowherd
                        jpcowh01(a)slug.louisville.edu
                  http://www.slug.louisville.=
edu/~jpcowh01>

This is my world and I am...                           World Leader Pretend
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From henryw@gte.net Wed Apr  8 06:04:01 1998
From: henryw@gte.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Trouble with Netscape mail function
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 06:04:01 +0000
Message-ID: <352B1351.9B45B69C@gte.net>
In-Reply-To: <352ae82d.3106459@mailhost.worldnet.att.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7650440546483838249=="

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William G. Madsen wrote:

> Now that I have a ppp connection with ATT Worldnet (thanks to the good
> advice I received from this group), I'd like to set up Netscape 4.04
> (Navigator/Communicator) to handle my e-mail, but when I tell it that
> my incoming mail is handled by postoffice.worldnet.att.net, I get an
> error message telling me that Netscape never heard of postoffice etc.
> So I must be doing something radically wrong, and I would appreciate
> some more good advice.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bill Madsen in St. Louis
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 Bill,

You have to be online for this to work - both mail and news need the
connection to your ISP to set those preferences. That's Netscape's
idea not Linux.


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mailto:henryw(a)gte.net
http://home1.gte.net/henryw/basic/ind=
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From mwagnon@ixpres.com Wed Apr  8 06:49:33 1998
From: mwagnon@ixpres.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: FW: Undeliverable: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiling xcopilot
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 23:49:33 -0700
Message-ID: <352B1DFD.E1195725@ixpres.com>
In-Reply-To: 
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5080930277484718814=="

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Is THAT what that is? I just got a bunch of messages I sent last month
(which were posted) returned in the same fashion.

Wierd.

Mark

___

jonathan(a)aracnet.net wrote:
>=20
> OK here's a confusing one...  Who's using MicroStink Exchange to route a Li=
nux
> list!?
>=20
> I work with excHANGe, that should be punishment enough.
>=20
> Anyone else get something like this?
>=20
> -----FW: -----
> Your message
>=20
>   To:      suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
>   Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiling xcopilot
>   Sent:    Sat, 21 Mar 1998 05:42:45 +0100
>=20
> did not reach the following recipient(s):
>=20
> LINUX(a)ENTERPRISE-HR.COM on Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:48:45 +0100
>     Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure
>     MSEXCH:IMS:Enterprise Human Resources:P75:P75 0 (000C05A6) Unknown
> Recipient
>

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From ke@suse.de Wed Apr  8 07:13:03 1998
From: ke@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Hey it is May 6th where is my SuSE 5.2!
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 09:13:03 +0200
Message-ID: 
In-Reply-To: <3529BBFE.25003D79@teleport.com>
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Steven Udell  writes:

Why do you think it's May ;-) ?

|   How about by next SuSE we can see packages of
|   GNOME

I'll guess, we'll ship GNOME with =C2=BBS.u.S.E. Linux=C2=AB 6.0, (late?) this
summer -- if nothing strange will happen.  The 6.0 will be glibc2
based.  Please, read http://w=
ww.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/why-not-52.html>
(english version!).

|   1.3 Enlightenment

I'm pretty sure.

|   Star Office 5.0!! (hey its German) Applix isn't

Please ask Star^H^H^H^HCaldera, what's going on there...

|   CivFree!

This is out of my knowledge.

|   a SuSE T-shirt (black!)

Good question.

|   Some ports of "retail dos games"
|   What else?
|  =20
|   Hey a good way to unload you old SuSE disk
|   if give them to a friend! Don't be useing them=20
|   as frisbees!

Yes, that's a good proposal.

|   How about writting an English version of the
|   SuSE update by FTP mirroring and NFS/FTP
|   page! :P~ or heck I will have to learn German.

This idea isn't that bad -- but for the meantime, please read
http://www.suse.d=
e/Support/sdb_e/ke_suselinux-ftp.html> -- thanx to Cris
(from Canadia) and R=C3=BCdiger (from SuSE).

|   Ok give me excuses...

Never mind...


--=20
Karl Eichwalder          S.u.S.E. GmbH          Fax       +49-911-3206727
ke(a)suse.de               Gebhardtstrasse 2      Mo & Th      13:00-18:00:
ht=
tp://www.suse.de/~ke/>  90762 Fuerth, Germany  Hotline   +49-911-32471=
30
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From striepe@geo.uni-bonn.de Wed Apr  8 08:59:16 1998
From: striepe@geo.uni-bonn.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: FW: Undeliverable: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiling xcopilot
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 10:59:16 +0000
Message-ID: <199804080859.BAA28021@Goldengate.suse.com>
In-Reply-To: <352B1DFD.E1195725@ixpres.com>
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Hi!
I'm not quoting  all that stuff.

For my returned mail from list,
I'm 95ure that it is my fault,
for I have two accounts,
with different loginnames,
so I messed up posting to the list from the wrong
site.

arnulf

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From hettar@teleport.com Wed Apr  8 09:27:00 1998
From: hettar@teleport.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Hey it is APIRL 6th where is my SuSE 5.2!
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 02:27:00 -0700
Message-ID: <352B42E4.991C06BB@teleport.com>
In-Reply-To: 
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Karl Eichwalder wrote:
>=20
> Steven Udell  writes:
>=20
> Why do you think it's May ;-) ?

Steve EDITS his big mistake, APRIL!! woopse 7th now
Hey It was a time warp, HEY LETS ALL DO THE TIME WARP!!
Don't blame me for getting Rocky Horror Picture Show's song
in your head now..
>=20
> |   How about by next SuSE we can see packages of
> |   GNOME
>=20
> I'll guess, we'll ship GNOME with =C2=BBS.u.S.E. Linux=C2=AB 6.0, (late?) t=
his
> summer -- if nothing strange will happen.  The 6.0 will be glibc2
> based.  Please, read http:/=
/www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/why-not-52.html>
> (english version!).

Great, looking forward to it.

>=20
> |   1.3 Enlightenment
>=20
> I'm pretty sure.
>=20
> |   Star Office 5.0!! (hey its German) Applix isn't
>=20
> Please ask Star^H^H^H^HCaldera, what's going on there...
>=20
Ask WHO? Its free for all to download, why not just stick it=20
on the SuSE disks, better than downloading..=20
Star Division should put the 5.0 annoucement in English :P
Well 5.0 isn't quite out yet, soon in a few weeks I think..

> |   CivFree!
>=20
> This is out of my knowledge.
It is out, but save some download time :P~

>=20
> |   a SuSE T-shirt (black!)
>=20
> Good question.
> What Else?
Eh after 8 hours of putting my box into a new box,
I don't have any ideas, damn stupid American 115v!!
Didn't take me 8 hours, but took long enough for me
to notice the power supply was at 220v, where I should
be useing 115v...


--=20
Steven Udell             Wayfarers
hettar(a)teleport.com      for truth love
sudell(a)teleport.com      and courage
  http://www.teleport.com/~hettar>
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From mantel@suse.de Wed Apr  8 11:07:07 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Hey it is APIRL 6th where is my SuSE 5.2!
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 13:07:07 +0200
Message-ID: 
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Hi,

On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Steven Udell wrote:

> > |   Star Office 5.0!! (hey its German) Applix isn't
> > 
> > Please ask Star^H^H^H^HCaldera, what's going on there...
> > 
> Ask WHO? Its free for all to download, why not just stick it 
> on the SuSE disks, better than downloading.. 

We have been explicitly told that we are NOT allowed to put it on our CDs.

> Steven Udell             Wayfarers

    Hubert


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From netsomni@fastrans.net Wed Apr  8 12:19:48 1998
From: netsomni@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Recompiling Xanim.
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 12:19:48 +0000
Message-ID: <199804081718.MAA13546@maat.fastrans.net>
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I have found some Indeo video clips will not play. Any ideas? I have=20
already  installed the Indeo modules.

N

> Date:          Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:16:06 +0800 (SGT)
> From:          Ow W K Danny 
> To:            suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Subject:       Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Recompiling Xanim.
> Reply-to:      suse-linux-e(a)suse.com

>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> Thanks for your responses. Found that I did not install the xdeveloper's
> kit. It compiled beautifully after installation and now can play .avi with
> graphics.
>=20
> Thanks once again.
> Danny
>=20
>=20
> >=20
> > >=20
> > > Hi,
> > > I Been trying to recompile xanim from SuSE. As usual, I used YaST to
> > > install "Xanim-2.70.63-3.src.rpm" to get the source. When I run "xmkmf"=
 as
> > > according to the documentation, the message below appears:
> > >=20
> > > xmkmf:
> > > mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak
> > > imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
> > > Imakefile.c:13: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory
> > > imake: Exit code 33.
> > >   Stop.
> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > >=20
> > > Did I miss something? I using SuSE 5.1.
> > >=20
> > > Any poiters or help is deeply appreciated.
> > >=20
> > > Danny
> > >=20
> > >=20
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> > >=20
> >=20
> > 	I believe that you need to have imake installed...  it works a little di=
fferantly than make...   Also make sure that you have you Makefile configured=
 correctly for linux...  I compiled on a HP700 > >=20
> > 	Good Luck...
> >=20
> > 						Jonathan
> > --=20
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D                                        =
             =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >=20
> >                            Jonathan Paul Cowherd
> >                         jpcowh01(a)slug.louisville.edu
> >                   http://www.slug.louisvi=
lle.edu/~jpcowh01>
> >=20
> > This is my world and I am...                           World Leader Prete=
nd
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D                                        =
             =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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From billmadsen@worldnet.att.net Wed Apr  8 15:53:35 1998
From: billmadsen@worldnet.att.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Trouble with Netscape mail function
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 15:53:35 +0000
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On Wed, 08 Apr 1998 06:04:01 +0000, you wrote:

>

>
>You have to be online for this to work - both mail and news need the
>connection to your ISP to set those preferences. That's Netscape's
>idea not Linux.
>
>--
>Henry White
>mailto:henryw(a)gte.net
>http://home1.gte.net/henryw/basic/in=
dex.html>

Thanks very much.  Perhaps Netscape says somewhere that you have to be
online; if so, I missed it. =20

Bill Madsen

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From andyford@fastrans.net Wed Apr  8 16:08:41 1998
From: andyford@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Trouble with Netscape mail function
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 11:08:41 -0500
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William G. Madsen wrote:
> 
> Now that I have a ppp connection with ATT Worldnet (thanks to the good
> advice I received from this group), I'd like to set up Netscape 4.04
> (Navigator/Communicator) to handle my e-mail, but when I tell it that
> my incoming mail is handled by postoffice.worldnet.att.net, I get an
> error message telling me that Netscape never heard of postoffice etc.
> So I must be doing something radically wrong, and I would appreciate
> some more good advice.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Bill Madsen in St. Louis
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hey Bill
Netscape won't take most changes to prefs without quitting and
restarting... yet 

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From svet@alamo.satlug.org Wed Apr  8 16:13:55 1998
From: svet@alamo.satlug.org
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] please help
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 11:13:55 -0500
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Hey, try this:

        Load up your boot disk and then System Installation. Put the live
cdrom (disk 4) in your cd-rom. Boot the rescue system (it will be a choice
from your menu). It will boot the system off the cd-rom and loads the OS
into the ramdisk. After that, mount the hard drive with your root file
system (or where /etc/passwd exists) to some mopunt point on the rescue
system (/mnt works). Then, if you totally want to restore your old
/etc/passwd file, copy /etc/passwd over the old version (in this case
/mnt/etc/passwd). Shutdown the system properly and boot off your normal
root system on the harddrive. As it loads, you will get the prompts to
enter give root a password, if you desire, just like after and initial
install.=20

I hope that helps you out,

svet

On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Ganbayar Aleksei wrote:

>=20
> Hi
> It seems that i`ve lost my root password.
> When i try "su" I get message "Sorry"
> Does anybody know how to recover /etc/passwrd
> with user account.
> Please help!!
>  =20
>=20
> ______________________________________________________
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From rhumbert@avignon.pacwan.net Wed Apr  8 17:23:13 1998
From: rhumbert@avignon.pacwan.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Execute a script directly from CDRoms
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 19:23:13 +0200
Message-ID: <352BB280.BE2630FF@avignon.pacwan.net>
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I'm quite a newbie on Linux and i've got a problem.
I can't manage to execute a script directly from CDs.
I tried to comment the line about cdrom in fstab but i still can't have
the permission.
Is there a special option i forgot while mounting my cdrom ?

Cheers

Régis


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From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr  8 17:49:38 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Recompiling Xanim.
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 12:49:38 -0500
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Don't be alarmed.  Intel changed the codec on newer avi's and they are not su=
pported by xanim.  It's about 50/50 whether an avi will run on xanim or not. =
 He will probably address that in the next release.

Brian wrote:

> I have found some Indeo video clips will not play. Any ideas? I have
> already  installed the Indeo modules.
>
> N
>
> > Date:          Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:16:06 +0800 (SGT)
> > From:          Ow W K Danny 
> > To:            suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> > Subject:       Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Recompiling Xanim.
> > Reply-to:      suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks for your responses. Found that I did not install the xdeveloper's
> > kit. It compiled beautifully after installation and now can play .avi with
> > graphics.
> >
> > Thanks once again.
> > Danny
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I Been trying to recompile xanim from SuSE. As usual, I used YaST to
> > > > install "Xanim-2.70.63-3.src.rpm" to get the source. When I run "xmkm=
f" as
> > > > according to the documentation, the message below appears:
> > > >
> > > > xmkmf:
> > > > mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak
> > > > imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
> > > > Imakefile.c:13: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory
> > > > imake: Exit code 33.
> > > >   Stop.
> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > >
> > > > Did I miss something? I using SuSE 5.1.
> > > >
> > > > Any poiters or help is deeply appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Danny
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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th
> > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
> > > >
> > >
> > >     I believe that you need to have imake installed...  it works a litt=
le differantly than make...   Also make sure that you have you Makefile confi=
gured correctly for linux...  I compiled on a HP700 > >
> > >     Good Luck...
> > >
> > >                                             Jonathan
> > > --
> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D                                      =
               =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > >
> > >                            Jonathan Paul Cowherd
> > >                         jpcowh01(a)slug.louisville.edu
> > >                   =
http://www.slug.louis=
ville.edu/~jpcowh01>
> > >
> > > This is my world and I am...                           World Leader Pre=
tend
> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D                                      =
               =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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From dana@ntd.net Wed Apr  8 17:55:03 1998
From: dana@ntd.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] fm radio card
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 12:55:03 -0500
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S Pawlowicz wrote:

> Hello,
>      I have one of those Aztech/Packard Bell fm radio cards. Has anyone
> successfully got it working under SuSE 5.1? And if so How? Keep it as
> simple as possible... everytime I start ungzippin' untarrin' and makin'
> things it gets ugly...

I use xradiotrack, although I have a Radio Reveal FM card.  If you want,
I can send you the binary.  It's *REAL* easy to setup!

Dana


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From bb@suse.com Wed Apr  8 18:58:17 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Hey it is APIRL 6th where is my SuSE 5.2!
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 11:58:17 -0700
Message-ID: <352BC8C9.3D1BC768@suse.com>
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Steven Udell wrote:

[...]
> Ask WHO? Its free for all to download, why not just stick it
> on the SuSE disks, better than downloading..
> Star Division should put the 5.0 annoucement in English :P
> Well 5.0 isn't quite out yet, soon in a few weeks I think..

AFAIK we no longer allowed to put Staroffice on our CDs. We've done
this in the past, but then Caldere got the execlusive right to do
this by Star Division. So ask them to make it free distributible=20
again, and you'll find Staroffice on our CDs...

Ciao,
        BB

--=20
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From frolija@texaco.com Wed Apr  8 19:51:34 1998
From: frolija@texaco.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 14:51:34 -0500
Message-ID: <7A4BD94DC59FD111A4B400805F85B58B57CE71@msx01018.boc.texaco.com>
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The thing about wabi that bit me was the fact that there is a license file
(undocumented) that gets copied over if you run the install script (you can
only run the install script if you can use an rpm).  Since i was using the
.tgz file, there was no way to use the script.  The license file gets put in
/etc/flexlm/licenses

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	zentara [SMTP:zentara(a)mindspring.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, April 07, 1998 11:53 AM
> To:	suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Subject:	Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi
> 
> 
> Frolick, Joseph A wrote:
> > 
> > I just tried to install wabi (from a .tgz file) and a problem arose.  I
> > looked through the wabi documentation and could find nothing on the
> error I
> > got.
> > 
> > Wabi is not licensed to run.
> > After this, there is a message that says to look in
> > /etc/(somedirectoryicantremember)/licenses.wabi
> > is the error message I get.
> > 
> > Anybody have any ideas?
> > All of of the environment variables are set as the Wabi documentation
> shows,
> > and it is installed into /opt/wabi
> > 
> > I'm at a loss...
> > --
> 
> Hi,
> Do you have win3.1 installed somewhere?
> WABI does not run by itself, it must
> have a licensed copy of win3.1.
> 
> Also, you must do the original
> WABI install as root, not a user.
> 
> zentara
> 
> 
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From jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu Wed Apr  8 19:55:09 1998
From: jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] mingetty
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 15:55:09 -0400
Message-ID: <199804081955.PAA06690@ox.slug.louisville.edu>
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        I'm having difficulty resetting tty1 to respond correctly to my keybo=
ard.  I get a ^M when I press the enter key...  I don't now how to do a tset =
for tty1 or if such a thing exist with linux...

                                                Jonathan

--=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D                                            =
         =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

                           Jonathan Paul Cowherd
                        jpcowh01(a)slug.louisville.edu
                  http://www.slug.louisville.=
edu/~jpcowh01>

This is my world and I am...                           World Leader Pretend
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From zentara@mindspring.com Wed Apr  8 21:05:42 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 17:05:42 -0400
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misc.word.corp wrote:
> 
> I'm also an ezppp user, but I've been finding that I occasionally lose
> write and/or execute permissions after using ezppp's "configuration"
> utility to change modem init strings and the like.
> 
> The files whose w/x permissions are affected are pppd and resolv.conf,
> rendering ezppp useless until permissions are restored.
> 
> Anybody have a similar problem? It's a small annoyance, but nonetheless
> . . .
> 

Hi,
I think what happens is everytime you run YAST, it checks
all the file permissions and changes them back to the
secure setting.
There is a way of telling Suseconfig what files not
to change, by editing your /etc/permissions files.

Hey, a bit of good news for all you EZPPP users,
is that the author is working on a new version
which will work from the command line also. Right now
EZPPP is limited to X. It's on the authors web page.

zentara


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From suse@wavenet.it Wed Apr  8 23:13:04 1998
From: suse@wavenet.it
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ircII 4.4 does not compile: please, help.
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 01:13:04 +0200
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I' m trying to compile ircII 4.4 under  Linux Suse 5.1.
After uncompression I exectuted:
./configure --prefix=/usr --exec-prefix=/usr

and I got:

creating cache ./config.cache
this is ircii version 4.4

checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for POSIXized ISC... no
checking for NeXT... no
checking for AIX... no
checking for flex... flex
checking for yywrap in -lfl... yes
checking whether gcc needs -traditional... no
checking for getpwnam in -lsun... no
checking for qnx... no
checking for solaris... no
checking for SVR4... no
checking for -I/usr/netinclude... no
checking for hpux version... no
checking for ultrix... no
checking for POSIX.1... yes
checking for sequent/ptx... no
checking for sys/un.h... yes
checking for sys/select.h... no
checking for sys/fcntl.h... yes
checking for sys/ioctl.h... yes
checking for sys/file.h... yes
checking for sys/time.h... yes
checking for sys/wait.h... yes
checking for sys/twg_config.h... no
checking for sys/ptem.h... no
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking for fcntl.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for netdb.h... yes
checking for limits.h... yes
checking for stdarg.h... yes
checking for process.h... no
checking for termcap.h... yes
checking for termios.h... yes
checking for setsid... yes
checking for getpgid... yes
checking for getsid... yes
checking for scandir... yes
checking for memmove... yes
checking for uname... yes
checking for strftime... yes
checking for getcwd... yes
checking for fchmod... yes
checking for strerror... yes
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking whether time.h and sys/time.h may both be included... yes
checking for dirent.h that defines DIR... yes
checking for opendir in -ldir... no
checking return type of signal handlers... void
checking for mode_t... yes
checking for pid_t... yes
checking for size_t... yes
checking for uid_t in sys/types.h... yes
checking for struct linger... yes
checking for select... yes
checking for tgetent in -ltermcap... no
checking for tgetent in -ltermlib... no
checking for tgetent in -lcurses... no
checking for tgetent in -lxtermcap... no
configure: warning: i can not find tgetent.  you might need to help me
checking for tputs in curses.h... no
checking for tputs in term.h... yes
checking signal implementation
checking for sigaction... yes
using posix signals
checking for waitpid declaration... yes
checking for sys_errlist declaration... yes
checking for a 32 bit integer... unsigned long
checking for socket in -lsocket... no
checking for socket in -linet... no
checking for gethostname in -lnsl... no
checking for inet_addr in -ldgc... no
checking for gethostbyname in -lresolv... no
checking for non-blocking... posix
generating a list of signal names...
checking for unix mail directory... /var/spool/mail
checking whether to support SOCKS... no
checking for pax... no
checking for tar... tar
checking for gzcat... no
checking for zcat... zcat
checking for sendmail... /usr/lib/sendmail
updating cache ./config.cache
creating ./config.status
creating Makefile
creating ircbug
creating include/Makefile
creating source/Makefile
creating include/defs.h

well there we are, you now might want to look in include/config.h
and see if there is anything you might want to tune, else you can
just run a make here.. good luck!

What does it mean that: "configure: warning: i can not find tgetent.  you
might need to help me"? 
I' ve checked include/config.h and it was ok.
When I ran "make", I got:

make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source'
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c alias.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c crypt.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c ctcp.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c dcc.c
dcc.c: In function `process_incoming_listen':
dcc.c:1242: warning: passing arg 1 of `dcc_searchlist' discards `const'
from pointer target type
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c debug.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c edit.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c exec.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c flood.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c funny.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include
-DDEFAULT_HELP_PATH=\"/usr/lib/irc/help\" -c help.c
help.c: In function `help_me':
help.c:616: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer
type
help.c:616: warning: passing arg 4 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer
type
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c history.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c hold.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c hook.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c if.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c ignore.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c input.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -DIRCLIB=\"/usr/lib/irc/\"
-DIRCPATH=\"~/.irc:/usr/lib/irc/script:.\" -c irc.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c ircaux.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c ircsig.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c keys.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c lastlog.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c list.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c log.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c mail.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c menu.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c names.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c newio.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c notice.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c notify.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c numbers.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c output.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c parse.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c queue.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c reg.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c scandir.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -DWSERV_PATH=\"/usr/bin/wserv\"
-c screen.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -DIRCIO_PATH=\"/usr/bin/ircio\"
-c server.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c stack.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c status.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c term.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include
-DTRANSLATION_PATH=\"/usr/lib/irc/translation/\" -c translat.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include
-DDEFAULT_HELP_PATH=\"/usr/lib/irc/help\" -c vars.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c whois.c
gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c window.c
gcc -g -O2  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o irc alias.o crypt.o ctcp.o dcc.o debug.o
edit.o exec.o flood.o funny.o help.o history.o hold.o hook.o if.o ignore.o
input.o irc.o ircaux.o ircsig.o keys.o lastlog.o list.o log.o mail.o
menu.o names.o newio.o notice.o notify.o numbers.o output.o parse.o
queue.o reg.o scandir.o screen.o server.o stack.o status.o term.o
translat.o vars.o whois.o window.o  
edit.o: In function `command_completion':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/edit.c:2264: undefined reference to `tputs'
edit.o: In function `edit_char':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/edit.c:3186: undefined reference to `tputs'
edit.o: In function `beepcmd':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/edit.c:3719: undefined reference to `tputs'
input.o: In function `cursor_to_input':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:66: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:66: undefined reference to `tputs'
input.o: In function `update_input':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:182: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:182: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:207: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:207: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:220: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:220: undefined reference to `tputs'
input.o: In function `input_move_cursor':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:290: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:290: undefined reference to `tputs'
input.o: In function `input_delete_character':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:378: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:378: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:380: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:380: undefined reference to `tputs'
input.o: In function `input_backspace':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:411: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:411: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:424: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:424: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:434: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:434: undefined reference to `tputs'
input.o: In function `input_clear_to_eol':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:649: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:649: undefined reference to `tputs'
input.o: In function `input_clear_to_bol':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:677: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:677: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:681: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:681: undefined reference to `tputs'
input.o: In function `input_clear_line':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:702: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:702: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:706: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:706: undefined reference to `tputs'
input.o: In function `input_transpose_characters':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:744: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:744: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:748: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/input.c:748: undefined reference to `tputs'
irc.o: In function `irc_exit':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/irc.c:203: undefined reference to `tputs'
menu.o: In function `ShowMenuByWindow':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/menu.c:218: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/menu.c:218: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/menu.c:228: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/menu.c:229: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/menu.c:229: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/menu.c:236: undefined reference to `tputs'
output.o: In function `refresh_screen':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/output.c:52: undefined reference to `tputs'
output.o: In function `init_screen':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/output.c:66: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/output.c:72: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/output.c:72: undefined reference to `tputs'
parse.o: In function `beep_em':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/parse.c:191: undefined reference to `tputs'
screen.o: In function `scroll_window':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:302: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:302: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:305: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:306: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:309: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:310: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:329: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:329: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:334: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:335: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:342: undefined reference to `tputs'
screen.o: In function `display_highlight':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:375: undefined reference to `tputs'
screen.o:/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:382: more undefined references
to `tputs' follow
screen.o: In function `rite':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:642: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:642: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:700: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:701: undefined reference to `tputs'
screen.o: In function `clear_window':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:943: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:943: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:949: undefined reference to `tputs'
screen.o: In function `redraw_window':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:1010: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:1010: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:1028: undefined reference to `tputs'
screen.o: In function `display_lastlog_lines':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:1956: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:1956: undefined reference to `tputs'
screen.o: In function `scrollback_backwards_lines':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:1972: undefined reference to `tputs'
screen.o: In function `scrollback_forwards_lines':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:2002: undefined reference to `tputs'
screen.o: In function `scrollback_end':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:2077: undefined reference to `tputs'
screen.o: In function `scrollback_start':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/screen.c:2114: undefined reference to `tputs'
status.o:/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/status.c:105: more undefined references
to `tputs' follow
status.o: In function `make_status':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/status.c:750: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/status.c:750: undefined reference to `tputs'
term.o: In function `term_putchar':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:222: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:229: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:232: undefined reference to `tputs'
term.o: In function `term_reset':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:297: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:297: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:298: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:298: undefined reference to `tputs'
term.o: In function `term_init':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:382: undefined reference to `tgetent'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:389: undefined reference to `tgetnum'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:391: undefined reference to `tgetnum'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:399: undefined reference to `tgetnum'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:400: undefined reference to `tgetstr'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:401: undefined reference to `tgetstr'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:408: undefined reference to `tgetstr'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:410: undefined reference to `tgetstr'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:413: undefined reference to `tgetstr'
term.o:/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:420: more undefined references to
`tgetstr' follow
term.o: In function `term_init':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:428: undefined reference to `tgetflag'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:433: undefined reference to `tgetstr'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:434: undefined reference to `tgetstr'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:436: undefined reference to `tgetstr'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:438: undefined reference to `tgetstr'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:438: undefined reference to `tgetstr'
term.o:/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:440: more undefined references to
`tgetstr' follow
term.o: In function `term_CE_clear_to_eol':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:631: undefined reference to `tputs'
term.o: In function `term_CS_scroll':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:677: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:677: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:680: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:680: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:684: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:684: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:686: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:687: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:687: undefined reference to `tputs'
term.o: In function `term_ALDL_scroll':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:705: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:705: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:707: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:708: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:708: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:710: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:715: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:715: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:717: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:718: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:718: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:720: undefined reference to `tputs'
term.o: In function `term_param_ALDL_scroll':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:736: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:736: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:737: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:737: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:744: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:744: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:745: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:745: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:746: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:746: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:747: undefined reference to `tgoto'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:747: undefined reference to `tputs'
term.o: In function `term_IC_insert':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:764: undefined reference to `tputs'
term.o: In function `term_IMEI_insert':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:781: undefined reference to `tputs'
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:783: undefined reference to `tputs'
term.o: In function `term_DC_delete':
/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:794: undefined reference to `tputs'
term.o:/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/term.c:802: more undefined references to
`tputs' follow
make[1]: *** [irc] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source'
make: *** [irc] Error 2

What can I do to compile ircII 4.4 successfully?

Thanks for your help.

Bye.


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From deem@wdm.com Thu Apr  9 01:03:46 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] fm radio card
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 17:03:46 -0800
Message-ID: <199804090103.RAA00593@wdm.com>
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"Dana J. Laude"  wrote:
>=20
> S Pawlowicz wrote:
>=20
> > Hello,
> >      I have one of those Aztech/Packard Bell fm radio cards. Has anyone
> > successfully got it working under SuSE 5.1? And if so How? Keep it as
> > simple as possible... everytime I start ungzippin' untarrin' and makin'
> > things it gets ugly...
>=20
> I use xradiotrack, although I have a Radio Reveal FM card.  If you want,
> I can send you the binary.  It's *REAL* easy to setup!
>=20
> Dana
>=20

I use the RadioReveal FM card also, with xforms app called Xtuner.
See http://kitten.ndscs.nodak.edu/~tinnes/>

Best Regards,
-Dee

W.D.McKinney (Dee) -=3D- deem(a)wdm.com
No claim to fame, just saved by Grace.

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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Thu Apr  9 01:19:41 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] IrcII 4.4 compilation / basic build troubleshooting
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 18:19:41 -0700
Message-ID: <199804090119.SAA32031@skaro.nightcrawler.com>
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Hello there,

Compiling on unix can be tricky.  You often have to a bit of
investigation and guesswork.  I don't have the full answer, but I'll
show you what i've done so far.

This mail is perhaps overly long and overly dtailed, but the idea is
to give a bit of the flavor of how to solve these problems, as you WILL
have to solve them if you choose to download and compile source from the
internet. =20

A little understanding of how to use the troubleshooting tools combined
with an inlking of the compilation process will get you through 950f
your problems.

> I' m trying to compile ircII 4.4 under  Linux Suse 5.1.
> After uncompression I exectuted:
> ./configure --prefix=3D/usr --exec-prefix=3D/usr
>=20
> and I got:
>=20
> creating cache ./config.cache
> this is ircii version 4.4
>=20
>[...]
> checking for tgetent in -lxtermcap... no
> configure: warning: i can not find tgetent.  you might need to help me
> checking for tputs in curses.h... no
>[...]
>=20
> What does it mean that: "configure: warning: i can not find tgetent.  you
> might need to help me"?=20

The first thing you should wonder is what 'tgetent' is.  Some good=20
things to try woudl be 'locate tgetent' or 'man tgetent' or even
'man -k tgetent'.

Here is what man tgetent gave me:

NAME
       tgetent, tgetflag, tgetnum, tgetstr, tgoto, tputs - direct
              curses interface to the terminfo capability database
[...]

It seems this is a routine which gives curses applications access to
terminfo, a system for properly formatting output to the screen =20
(see man terminfo).

Further, notice that the error follows a test for -lxtermcap.  What I
did at this point was used 'locate termcap' to see if I could figure out
what it was looking for.   (If you did not know the -l syntax is a way
of requesting to the compiler you wish a particular library to be
included.) =20

Suspicious because of an earlier error I encountered with Vim5 which
seems related, i rechecked the output from locate libtermcap.

/usr/i486-linuxaout/lib/libtermcap.a
/usr/i486-linuxaout/lib/libtermcap.sa
/usr/lib/libtermcap.so.2
/usr/lib/libtermcap.so.2.0.8
/usr/lib/termcap/libtermcap.a
/usr/lib/termcap/libtermcap.so

/usr/lib is the "normal" place for libraries.
(see the Linux System Administrator's Guide 0.6 for more detail on file
locations http://www.linuxhq.com/guides/S=
AG/sag.html> it's very good
reading.)

Because of the earlier problem with vim, I am suspicious that gnu's=20
current version of autoconf is not generating 'configure' scripts
that can find libraries in /usr/lib/termcap.  I suggest trying the=20
command 'ln -s /usr/lib/termcap/libtermcap.so /usr/lib/libtermcap.so'
and then trying the configure/build again.=20

It is inelegant to have symlinks floating around everywhere, but=20
as I don't have the package, it's something I know will address the
(guesssed) issue.

> I' ve checked include/config.h and it was ok.
> When I ran "make", I got:
>=20
>=20
> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/ircii-4.4/source'
>[...]
> gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c whois.c
> gcc -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I../include -c window.c
> gcc -g -O2  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o irc alias.o crypt.o ctcp.o dcc.o debug.o
> edit.o exec.o flood.o funny.o help.o history.o hold.o hook.o if.o ignore.o
> input.o irc.o ircaux.o ircsig.o keys.o lastlog.o list.o log.o mail.o
> menu.o names.o newio.o notice.o notify.o numbers.o output.o parse.o
> queue.o reg.o scandir.o screen.o server.o stack.o status.o term.o
> translat.o vars.o whois.o window.o =20
> edit.o: In function `command_completion':
> /usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/edit.c:2264: undefined reference to `tputs'
> edit.o: In function `edit_char':
> /usr/src/ircii-4.4/source/edit.c:3186: undefined reference to `tputs'
[...]=20

Again, with a bit of understanding of what make is doing, this points
to the same error. =20

First we see make kicking off many copies of 'gcc' which is compiling
source code into binary.  Then at the end, we see a great number of
binary object files (.o) passesd into the compiler.  During this final
link, a compiler is going to try to figure out all the libraries the
program is using to link them in. =20

Obviously, it isn't successful this time.  It can't find the symbol (in
this case a system call) 'tputs'.  Again 'man tputs' gives us the same
manpage.  Definitely, this library is missing.

If you want to get really fancy, you can use the command nm to see
what's inside a library:=20

jrodman(a)skaro:/usr/lib/termcap > nm libtermcap.a |grep tputs
00000e00 T tputs
00000004 C tputs_baud_rate

yes, this is the one we want.

> What can I do to compile ircII 4.4 successfully?

Try the above suggestion, see what it does.
ie. 'ln -s /usr/lib/termcap/libtermcap.so /usr/lib/libtermcap.so'
then re-configure, and re-make

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From alfiesty@chaffee.net Thu Apr  9 03:15:54 1998
From: alfiesty@chaffee.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Web database
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:15:54 -0600
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I'll start right out and admit I am a dreaded newbie. I get PAID to program
Accounting Apps for that other OS using Visual Basic. 
I wrote a database for a local non-profit organization using an Access DB.
They would like to put it on the Web. Since the local ISP uses Linux I
needed to make it a Linux DB. I found information on Qddb, a Linux Db that
did CGI, and bought it. Unfortunately it interfaces with Tcl. At this stage
in my life, I have no desire to learn a new language, especially one as
obtuse as Tcl. I read a little out of a Tcl primer but it seemed to be
written in some obscure Mespotanian dialect. :)
Does anyone on this list know of a DB App under Linux that would allow
querying and maintaining an Access Db over the Web from Linux? 
The only other choice is to pay(yech) a Tcl guru to write the necessary
script but the n-p doesn't have the money.
Jim


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From weekleyj@fastrans.net Thu Apr  9 04:42:38 1998
From: weekleyj@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Web database
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 23:42:38 -0500
Message-ID: <352C51BE.DEAE6973@fastrans.net>
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Jim Hodgers wrote:
> 
> I'll start right out and admit I am a dreaded newbie. I get PAID to program
> Accounting Apps for that other OS using Visual Basic.
> I wrote a database for a local non-profit organization using an Access DB.
> They would like to put it on the Web. Since the local ISP uses Linux I
> needed to make it a Linux DB. I found information on Qddb, a Linux Db that
> did CGI, and bought it. Unfortunately it interfaces with Tcl. At this stage
> in my life, I have no desire to learn a new language, especially one as
> obtuse as Tcl. I read a little out of a Tcl primer but it seemed to be
> written in some obscure Mespotanian dialect. :)
> Does anyone on this list know of a DB App under Linux that would allow
> querying and maintaining an Access Db over the Web from Linux?
> The only other choice is to pay(yech) a Tcl guru to write the necessary
> script but the n-p doesn't have the money.
> Jim
> 
Uh, time to figure out SQL and give Postgres a try, very solid, and the
price is right, FREE!!!! I don't think that you'll find much of anything
that supports M$ access in Linux land.  

John Weekley

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From arnulf@geo.uni-bonn.de Thu Apr  9 09:53:29 1998
From: arnulf@geo.uni-bonn.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] help with 'info'
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:53:29 +0200
Message-ID: <199804090953.LAA00793@arka.forst.koeln.de>
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Hi!
It looks like I have messed up my info starting page.
Just running info gives:
info: Cannot find the node "Top".

Running mkinfodir works but doesn't help.
I tried to reinstall info,
but couldn't find the package in the list of suse 5.1 cd.

Any hints?

thanks
arnulf

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From lavoie@netcom.ca Thu Apr  9 10:07:29 1998
From: lavoie@netcom.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 06:07:29 -0400
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980408174232.00e226e4@netcom.ca>
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ezppp worked like a charm.  I've tried 3-4 packages and had no success.  I
*was* a bit concerned about setting:

chmod 666 /dev/ttyS0 and=20
chmod 666 /etc/resolv.conf

Do either of these settings present a security risk?  I don't know what 666
stands for, but it has "diabolical" associations for me ;^).

At 09:31 98-04-06 +1000, you wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>I guess, somebody want to install PPP connection.
>if so, try EzPPP.
>
>	http://www.serv.net/~cameron/ezpp=
p/index.html>
>
>get binery file, then install.
>
>Cheers
>jae
>
>
>
>On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Tony Paulic wrote:
>
>>=20
>> There should be a README or INSTALL file in there. The instructions to=20
>> compile it are in there.
>>=20
>> <>
>>=20
>> >Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 07:12:38 -0500
>> >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
>> >From: Ron Lavoie 
>> >Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
>> >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
>> >
>> >
>> >I downloaded PPPWizard as well, but I don't know what to do with the=20
>> files.
>> > Many of the are in the for *.cc
>> >Does that mean they have to be compiled?  How do I do it?
>> >
>> >At 19:15 98-03-31 PST, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >>oops. it moved. I found it in=20
>> >>
>>
>>ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/systems/linux/sun=
site/system/network/seria>
>> >l/ppp/
>> >>
>> >>called pppsetup-1.98.tar.gz
>> >>
>> >><>
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From mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov Thu Apr  9 12:24:54 1998
From: mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] conf.modules for 3com589d ?
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:24:54 -0400
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suse'ers ...

does anyone have an idea what the conf.modules entry might be
for a 3com589d pcmcia ethernet adapter? 


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From morche@sat1.de Thu Apr  9 13:06:11 1998
From: morche@sat1.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] help with 'info'
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 15:06:11 +0200
Message-ID: <352CC7C3.622298CD@sat1.de>
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tulf wrote:
>=20
> Hi!
> It looks like I have messed up my info starting page.
> Just running info gives:
> info: Cannot find the node "Top".
>=20
> Running mkinfodir works but doesn't help.
> I tried to reinstall info,
> but couldn't find the package in the list of suse 5.1 cd.
...
AFAIK info is part of the corresponding packages. I think You have to
reinstall all the packages with info files...

        Regards, Matthias

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From mantel@suse.de Thu Apr  9 13:38:33 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: conf.modules for 3com589d ?
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 15:38:33 +0200
Message-ID: 
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Hi,

On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Michael Galloway wrote:

> does anyone have an idea what the conf.modules entry might be
> for a 3com589d pcmcia ethernet adapter? 

No need for specifying this kind of hardware in /etc/conf.modules. To use
PCMCIA, install package pcmcia.rpm and set the variable PCMCIA in
/etc/rc.config to "i82365" (almost all systems use this chipset). After
booting, the cardmanager starts. This program can be considered as another
kernel daemon which handles PCMCIA cards only. As soon as the cardmanager
recognizes that there is a card in the slot, it asks the card for it's
identification. Using this "name" the cardmanager parses
/etc/pcmcia/config in order to determine which module needs to be loaded.
If you need any special options for these modules, specify them in
/etc/pcmcia/config.opts. But a 3c589 should work out of the box.

> -- michael

    Hubert


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From lach@lach.net Thu Apr  9 14:33:40 1998
From: lach@lach.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Web database
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 15:33:40 +0100
Message-ID: <352CDC44.1541BED3@lach.net>
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Jim,

How about move the Access DB to Adabas.  The users could access the database
from the web using your access forms already developed.  This mean users
accessing your web site would need your access forms on their system.  (The
users first act could be to download the forms).

Adabas is not free!!!  But there again very few first class products are.  The
folks at SuSE in California can set you up.

As far as tcl goes, it's a tool worth learning.  As is Perl.  Perl has a tcl
extensions modules called Perl/Tk.  I think the guys at Qddb are working
towards getting a Perl/Tk version out.  One of the benefits of Perl/Tk is that
your apps are cross platform (windozs and Unix, one day the Mac).

Later

Lach


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From zentara@mindspring.com Thu Apr  9 15:54:29 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Web database
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:54:29 -0400
Message-ID: <352CEF35.A8298844@mindspring.com>
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Jim Hodgers wrote:
> 
> I'll start right out and admit I am a dreaded newbie. I get PAID to program
> Accounting Apps for that other OS using Visual Basic.
> I wrote a database for a local non-profit organization using an Access DB.
> They would like to put it on the Web. Since the local ISP uses Linux I
> needed to make it a Linux DB. I found information on Qddb, a Linux Db that
> did CGI, and bought it. Unfortunately it interfaces with Tcl. At this stage
> in my life, I have no desire to learn a new language, especially one as
> obtuse as Tcl. I read a little out of a Tcl primer but it seemed to be
> written in some obscure Mespotanian dialect. :)
> Does anyone on this list know of a DB App under Linux that would allow
> querying and maintaining an Access Db over the Web from Linux?
> The only other choice is to pay(yech) a Tcl guru to write the necessary
> script but the n-p doesn't have the money.
>

Hi, although I havn't done it; I've seen others talk about
doing it with the Perl language and the various SQL and
database modules available for Perl.

If you are interested, why don't you post this question
to comp.languages.perl and see if they can point you
to someone who has done it. The Perl experts there are
awesome.

There are free perl scripts out there to do almost anything.
I'm sure there is something for ACCESS.

zentara


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From zentara@mindspring.com Thu Apr  9 16:07:54 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 12:07:54 -0400
Message-ID: <352CF25A.DA7E0A02@mindspring.com>
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Ron Lavoie wrote:
> 
> ezppp worked like a charm.  I've tried 3-4 packages and had no success.  I
> *was* a bit concerned about setting:
> 
> chmod 666 /dev/ttyS0 and
> chmod 666 /etc/resolv.conf
> 
> Do either of these settings present a security risk?  I don't know what 666
> stands for, but it has "diabolical" associations for me ;^).
> 
> 
Hi, some of the experts have reservations about putting
666 on resolv.conf; however I have found that
you can get around this; at least on my system.

Ezppp must be allowed to write to resolv.conf
to enter the settings that you enter for your
ISP. But once it has done that initial configuration,
it seems to work the next time if Suseconfig
changes them back to the secure setting.

I think this will only work with a single
ISP entry in Ezppp. If you have multiple
entries, then Ezppp must be allowed to change
them.

Also, if your user is in the DIALOUT group,
you should be able to get the modem to work,
without it changed to 666. Set the modem
to /dev/modem in ezppp, and set up your
default modem with Yast.

I also have gotten better results by 
copying the ezppp binary to the home directory
of my dialout user, and giving ownership
to him. That way it is not running as root.

This works for me , but may be a flawed strategy.

zentara


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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Thu Apr  9 16:17:49 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] General Linux/Unix questions
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 12:17:49 -0400
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Hey Folks,

Is this the place to ask general Unix or Linux
questions?  For example, I am trying to get a
better understanding of traceroute's output.
Should I ask a question about that here, or should
I go to a more appropriate news group.  Is there
is such a news group, can anybody tell me where I
might find it?

Steve


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From morche@sat1.de Thu Apr  9 17:22:14 1998
From: morche@sat1.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] General Linux/Unix questions
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 19:22:14 +0200
Message-ID: <352D03C6.66FF96D3@sat1.de>
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Steven T. Hatton wrote:
...
> Is this the place to ask general Unix or Linux
> questions?  For example, I am trying to get a
> better understanding of traceroute's output.
> Should I ask a question about that here, or should
> I go to a more appropriate news group.  Is there
> is such a news group, can anybody tell me where I
> might find it?
...
I don't know, if there is such a newsgroup. Don't be shy, just ask Your
questions 8-) I'm trying quite hard just to understand those outputs for
myself ;^)

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From lach@lach.net Thu Apr  9 19:51:49 1998
From: lach@lach.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Web database
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 20:51:49 +0100
Message-ID: <352D26D5.6D4C41F2@lach.net>
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Jim,

Beware the Perl newsgroups are tough!!!  Read all the Faq's before posting a
question, the flames are hot :))

Lach

zentara wrote:

> Hi, although I havn't done it; I've seen others talk about
> doing it with the Perl language and the various SQL and
> database modules available for Perl.
>
> If you are interested, why don't you post this question
> to comp.languages.perl and see if they can point you
> to someone who has done it. The Perl experts there are
> awesome.
>
> There are free perl scripts out there to do almost anything.
> I'm sure there is something for ACCESS.
>
> zentara
>
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From bouke@xs4all.nl Thu Apr  9 20:58:10 1998
From: bouke@xs4all.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] General Linux/Unix questions
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 22:58:10 +0200
Message-ID: <19980409225810.15188@xs4all.nl>
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Hi Steve

> Is this the place to ask general Unix or Linux
> questions?  For example, I am trying to get a
> better understanding of traceroute's output.
> Should I ask a question about that here, or should
> I go to a more appropriate news group.  Is there
> is such a news group, can anybody tell me where I
> might find it?

What is your question exactly. Please specify ;-)

Bouke


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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Thu Apr  9 22:11:41 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] What does traceroute really do?
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 18:11:41 -0400
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I am telnetted into my system at home from a Sun
box at work.  I run traceroute back to this subnet
and get the following:

Lakshmana kde/bin# traceroute
cpkwebser3.ncr.disa.mil
traceroute to cpkwebser3.ncr.disa.mil
(164.117.138.43), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  sdn-ts-001dcwash002t.dialsprint.net
(206.133.1.3)  206.013 ms  159.635 ms  169.683 ms
 2  206.133.1.2 (206.133.1.2)  169.562 ms  168.944
ms  149.986 ms
 3  sdn-pnc2-dc-1-0.dialsprint.net
(207.143.16.69)  169.974 ms  179.892 ms  159.721
ms
 4  sl-bb1-dc-10-0.sprintlink.net (207.143.1.173)
159.494 ms  168.909 ms  159.819 ms
 5  sl-bb5-dc-4-0-0-155M.sprintlink.net
(144.232.0.2)  159.900 ms  159.863 ms  159.620 ms
 6  sl-bb10-pen-0-0-155M.sprintlink.net
(144.232.8.1)  159.519 ms  159.834 ms  159.302 ms
 7  144.232.5.62 (144.232.5.62)  169.568 ms
189.324 ms  159.787 ms
 8  sprint-nap.disa.mil (192.157.69.45)  200.035
ms  199.747 ms *
 9  137.209.200.205 (137.209.200.205)  229.969 ms
211.317 ms  218.435 ms
10  198.26.132.34 (198.26.132.34)  219.496 ms *
220.008 ms
11  * 33.252.200.210 (33.252.200.210)  209.669 ms
299.953 ms
12  33.252.200.110 (33.252.200.110)  249.717 ms
279.866 ms  199.424 ms
13  209.22.98.5 (209.22.98.5)  279.627 ms  220.101
ms  209.283 ms
14  hqs-gw2.ncr.disa.mil (164.117.144.5)  219.758
ms  249.631 ms  270.177 ms
15  164.117.1.2 (164.117.1.2)  219.182 ms  220.143
ms  279.363 ms
16  cpkwebser.ncr.disa.mil (164.117.138.43)
220.162 ms  290.075 ms  259.434 ms

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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Thu Apr  9 23:37:08 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] What does traceroute really do?
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:37:08 -0700
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>=20
> I am telnetted into my system at home from a Sun
> box at work.  I run traceroute back to this subnet
> and get the following:

[trace snipped]

> These numbers are far better than what I was
> getting earlier today. But I don't really
> understand what they mean.  I guess I could read
> the man page again and try to figure it out.  I am
> wondering if anybody has an intuitive explanation
> of what these numbers represent.  I used to think
> that each line reported the time it took to get
> from one node to the next.  Looking at basically
> the same path from both directions tells me that
> this is not the whole story.  What gives here?

Yes yes, you should read the man page. :D
It's always the logical place to start.  Sometimes there are confusing
bits floating in them, at which point asking what those confusing bits
are about is your best bet.

from 'man traceroute' on my SuSE 5.1 box:

       This program attempts to trace  the  route  an  IP  packet
       would  follow to some internet host by launching UDP probe
       packets with a small ttl (time to live) then listening for
       an  ICMP  "time  exceeded" reply from a gateway.  We start
       our probes with a ttl of one and increase by one until  we
       get  an  ICMP  "port  unreachable"  (which means we got to
       "host") or hit a max (which defaults to 30 hops &  can  be
       changed  with  the -m flag).  Three probes (change with -q
       flag) are sent at each ttl setting and a line  is  printed
       showing  the  ttl,  address  of the gateway and round trip
       time of each probe.  If the probe answers come  from  dif=C2=AD
       ferent  gateways,  the  address  of each responding system
       will be printed.  If there is no response within a 5  sec.
       timeout  interval  (changed  with  the  -w flag), a "*" is
       printed for that probe.

Thus the numbers are the round trip times for each probe.  If you wish
to better understand the networking terms, then your best free resource
is the RFCs at ns.internic.net. =20

In any case, TTL is the Time To Live value, set on all packets to ensure
a maximum number of transfers.  This prevents packets from going in
infinite loops and generally causing mischief. =20

So, when a router recieves a packet with a TTL of 0, it is supposed to
send a message back to the originator, the above mentioned ICMP=20
"time exceeded" reply.  So traceroute sends out 3 packets with TTL of 0,
then 1, then 2, then 3, etc etc.  By doing so, it is, in a manner,
requesting each router along the way to identify itself.  The times
listed are just how long it takes for you to receive such replies.  This
could depend on router latencies (which is what you'd like to see),
prioritization of dealing with such messages, and some other things I
can't think of.  Thus the numbers are general indications of performance
to that point along your link, but are instantaneous snapshots and
unreliable indicators.

Mostly, traceroute will only tell you which part of your link is
causing problems in extreme situations, such as oversaturation.

For more on TCP/IP, read "Internetworking with TCP/IP" by Douglas E.
Comer. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=3D0132169878/0=
01-3786462-5815564>

-josh

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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Fri Apr 10 02:49:22 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] What does traceroute really do?
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 22:49:22 -0400
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Josh,

Thanks for the reply.  I wish I had time to read Comers's books.  Perhaps when
I am done with school I will have time to learn.  ;-).   I did read the man
pages on this and got basically what you said out of them.   I have some
confusion about this.   You say:

>>Thus the numbers are the round trip times for each probe.  If you wish <<

To me this means  the first hop would return a small number, the second would
be a larger number, and the third even larger, etc.  I often see numbers that
are further downstream come back significantly lower than the ones that are
closer.  I guess this has to do with both the random nature of the values and
the fact (if I am understanding this) generating the TTL error might take
longer than passing the packet.

I will acknowledge that the times in the subsequent lines of the sample
traceroute that I put in my last e-mail were increasing with the hop count (in
general).  So the way I am understanding this, is that traceroute tells me how
long between the time the ICMP leaves home and the time it comes back.  The
reason that it may take more time to get back from a closer router is because
closer router may not process it's TTL error as quickly as a downstream
router.  Does this make sense?

Steve

Joshua Rodmanius wrote:

> >
> > I am telnetted into my system at home from a Sun
> > box at work.  I run traceroute back to this subnet
> > and get the following:
>
> [trace snipped]
>
> > These numbers are far better than what I was
> > getting earlier today. But I don't really
> > understand what they mean.  I guess I could read
> > the man page again and try to figure it out.  I am
> > wondering if anybody has an intuitive explanation
> > of what these numbers represent.  I used to think
> > that each line reported the time it took to get
> > from one node to the next.  Looking at basically
> > the same path from both directions tells me that
> > this is not the whole story.  What gives here?
>
> Yes yes, you should read the man page. :D
> It's always the logical place to start.  Sometimes there are confusing
> bits floating in them, at which point asking what those confusing bits
> are about is your best bet.
>
> from 'man traceroute' on my SuSE 5.1 box:
>
>        This program attempts to trace  the  route  an  IP  packet
>        would  follow to some internet host by launching UDP probe
>        packets with a small ttl (time to live) then listening for
>        an  ICMP  "time  exceeded" reply from a gateway.  We start
>        our probes with a ttl of one and increase by one until  we
>        get  an  ICMP  "port  unreachable"  (which means we got to
>        "host") or hit a max (which defaults to 30 hops &  can  be
>        changed  with  the -m flag).  Three probes (change with -q
>        flag) are sent at each ttl setting and a line  is  printed
>        showing  the  ttl,  address  of the gateway and round trip
>        time of each probe.  If the probe answers come  from  dif=C2=AD
>        ferent  gateways,  the  address  of each responding system
>        will be printed.  If there is no response within a 5  sec.
>        timeout  interval  (changed  with  the  -w flag), a "*" is
>        printed for that probe.
>
> Thus the numbers are the round trip times for each probe.  If you wish
> to better understand the networking terms, then your best free resource
> is the RFCs at ns.internic.net.
>
> In any case, TTL is the Time To Live value, set on all packets to ensure
> a maximum number of transfers.  This prevents packets from going in
> infinite loops and generally causing mischief.
>
> So, when a router recieves a packet with a TTL of 0, it is supposed to
> send a message back to the originator, the above mentioned ICMP
> "time exceeded" reply.  So traceroute sends out 3 packets with TTL of 0,
> then 1, then 2, then 3, etc etc.  By doing so, it is, in a manner,
> requesting each router along the way to identify itself.  The times
> listed are just how long it takes for you to receive such replies.  This
> could depend on router latencies (which is what you'd like to see),
> prioritization of dealing with such messages, and some other things I
> can't think of.  Thus the numbers are general indications of performance
> to that point along your link, but are instantaneous snapshots and
> unreliable indicators.
>
> Mostly, traceroute will only tell you which part of your link is
> causing problems in extreme situations, such as oversaturation.
>
> For more on TCP/IP, read "Internetworking with TCP/IP" by Douglas E.
> Comer. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=3D0132169878=
/001-3786462-5815564>
>
> -josh
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From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Fri Apr 10 03:51:11 1998
From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing a Network Card
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 22:51:11 -0500
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Hello, I loss my linux for a bit, seems the sczi card couldn't catch IRQ
10, was able to get back online by getting on via the installation
kernel, then recompiled the kernel (had to take my pro-audio 16 sound
card out until it can be determined why vmlinux keeps erroring out with
a unresolved error for dma something or other) (btw, that is one
question:-(

The main reason I recompiled the kernel however was because I just
recently installed a pci ethernet card (was supposed to be ne2000
compliant).  When I ran the diag in dos, I discovered the card is using
irq 11.  (If it helps, it is a LanStar CC-3200PCI).  After rebooting
into Linux, a message came up that it couldn't detect the ethernet
card.  Guess that means I misconfigured something as I can see the card
in both Dos and OS/2.

I'm trying to set up a lan based network between my Linux/Os2 box and a
Win95 box.  They are both running the same style of ethernet card except
the win95 card is a PnP standard card.

I would appreciate any help that can point me in the right direction to
get the network up:-)

Thanx Loads!


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Leon McClatchey
mailto:leonmcclatchey(a)home=
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From fmc@redestb.es Fri Apr 10 05:15:26 1998
From: fmc@redestb.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RV: [LiEs] Salvemos la vida de un =?utf-8?q?ni?=
 =?utf-8?q?=EF=BF=BDo?=
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:15:26 +0100
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-----Mensaje original-----
De: Alfonso Sánchez Solano 
Para: Lista linux-espanol 
Fecha: jueves 9 de abril de 1998 20:35
Asunto: [LiEs] Salvemos la vida de un niño

Greetings.

Excuse that it uses the list to request their solidarity, but it is an
emergency.

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From fmc@redestb.es Fri Apr 10 05:16:58 1998
From: fmc@redestb.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Let us save the life of a boy
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:16:58 +0100
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-----Mensaje original-----
De: Fjoe 
Para: SuSE ; Redhat Install List
; Hurricane List 
Fecha: viernes 10 de abril de 1998 6:15
Asunto: RV: [LiEs] Salvemos la vida de un ni=C3=B1o

>
>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: Alfonso S=C3=A1nchez Solano 
>Para: Lista linux-espanol 
>Fecha: jueves 9 de abril de 1998 20:35
>Asunto: [LiEs] Salvemos la vida de un ni=C3=B1o
>
>
>Greetings.
>
>Excuse that it uses the list to request their solidarity, but it is an
>emergency.
>
>From Cali to the suroccidente of Colombia, I go to each one of you to
>request
>him their help. My wife's nephew contracted hepatitis and the
>illness evolved so unfortunately that the boy is on the edge of the death.
>He
>is eight years old and it is hospitalized in the Clinical Santaf=C3=A9 in the
>room
>353B, Tel 57-1-6293066 of the capital of the Republic of Colombia,
>Santaf=C3=A9 de Bogot=C3=A1.
>
>From yesterday we are trying to get a liver donor that is the only
>posibility
>of surviving that he has. Maybe  tomorrow be too late.Su mother either
>accompanies him in the Clinic in the Pediatric Unit (UVI). Their name is
>Lucelia Triana.She it is educating to the service of the Public Education
>from 1974 and she works in the city of Ibagu=C3=A9,
>Department of the Tolima.
>
>What donation possibilities is there?. Do they know some organization of
>donors
>from Colombia or in another country? . Would you be able to diffuse this
>message all over the world, in other lists.?
>
>
>VERY GRATEFUL!!!!!
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>*******************************************************
>* Alfonso Sanchez Solano*******************************
>* Universidad del Valle. Vicerrectoria de Extension.***
>* Sistema Institucional de Educacion Desescolarizada***
>* Programa Forciencias. Sede Melendez.*****************
>* Edificio Cree 317 piso 1*****************************
>* Telefonos: 3182650 y 3182629*************************
>* e-mail: sansolal(a)mangle.univalle.edu.co**************
>*******************************************************
>
>
>
>
>


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From anatoli.iouditski@inrialpes.fr Fri Apr 10 08:13:36 1998
From: anatoli.iouditski@inrialpes.fr
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] stable kernels among 2.1.xx
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:13:36 +0200
Message-ID: <352DD4B0.D8393DDA@inrialpes.fr>
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Hello world,

people say that the NFS drivers has been completely
rewritten for 2.1.xx kernel. Now I'm looking for
a stable (the most stable) version of those kernels.
The requirements are very limited: I use SCSI 78xx
adapter, basic sound chip, 3c905 (3c916) network card 
and a PS2 mouse. However I am primarly concerned with
the NFS speed. What would be the best bet among those 
2.1.xx kernels?

Thnx,
Anatoli

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From anatoli.iouditski@inrialpes.fr Fri Apr 10 08:20:01 1998
From: anatoli.iouditski@inrialpes.fr
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE printing problems
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:20:01 +0200
Message-ID: <352DD631.59F8B8CF@inrialpes.fr>
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I use KDE beta 3 with suse 5.1
distribution. I have a network PS printer and
I can print using lpr command. Though I cannot
print directly from Netscape or Kedit or whatever. 
Looks like there is a variable to be defined.

When I try to set my printer preferences (it is defined
as lD209) with Kjet tool the printer name returns to "lp" when 
I close Kjet.

Thanks,
Anatoli

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From anatoli.iouditski@inrialpes.fr Fri Apr 10 08:23:19 1998
From: anatoli.iouditski@inrialpes.fr
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ghostscript problems
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:23:19 +0200
Message-ID: <352DD6F7.787211A7@inrialpes.fr>
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I use SuSE 5.1 distribution with KDE beta 3.
When I try to set antialiasing preference in
gv or in kghostview it answers 

Unknown device: x11alpha

What is the problem here? I have a Matrox video card
and 64k colors.

Thanks,
Anatoli

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From netsomni@fastrans.net Fri Apr 10 11:06:41 1998
From: netsomni@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Web database
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:06:41 +0000
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=
http://netd.fastrans.net> for Informix on Linux issues.

Brian

> Date:          Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:15:54 -0600
> To:            suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> From:          Jim Hodgers 
> Subject:       [S.u.S.E. Linux] Web database
> Reply-to:      suse-linux-e(a)suse.com

>=20
> I'll start right out and admit I am a dreaded newbie. I get PAID to program
> Accounting Apps for that other OS using Visual Basic.=20
> I wrote a database for a local non-profit organization using an Access DB.
> They would like to put it on the Web. Since the local ISP uses Linux I
> needed to make it a Linux DB. I found information on Qddb, a Linux Db that
> did CGI, and bought it. Unfortunately it interfaces with Tcl. At this stage
> in my life, I have no desire to learn a new language, especially one as
> obtuse as Tcl. I read a little out of a Tcl primer but it seemed to be
> written in some obscure Mespotanian dialect. :)
> Does anyone on this list know of a DB App under Linux that would allow
> querying and maintaining an Access Db over the Web from Linux?=20
> The only other choice is to pay(yech) a Tcl guru to write the necessary
> script but the n-p doesn't have the money.
> Jim
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From bouke@xs4all.nl Fri Apr 10 12:46:13 1998
From: bouke@xs4all.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] [OFFTOPIC: Linus for Man of the Century (fwd)]
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:46:13 +0200
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:-)

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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:16:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Sean M. Kelly" 
To: Linux Kernel 
Cc: Innocent1 
Subject: OFFTOPIC: Linus for Man of the Century

The DALnet #Linux has started a movement to get Linus Torvalds voted as Man of
the Century. Their idea is to get a massive number of votes for Linus, which
would at least get the attention of Linux if nothign else.  They estimate that
they need about 1 million votes to pull it off.

They've requested everybody to vote for Linus and to pass it along. The catag=
ory
in which Linus is being placed also has a mention of Bill Gates, so we've got
some competition. If you would like more information, see the URLs below.

Vote for Linus Torvalds:
  http://www.pa=
thfinder.com/time/time100/time100poll.html>

Linus as Man of the Century Mailing List:
  linusmotc-request(a)merconline.com

* Note: Please do not flame me or yell at me saying this does not belong on t=
he
  list because I am aware of that but thought this information had to be pass=
ed
  along to those interrested and this is the easiest way of contacting mass
  numbers of Linux users I could think of.
=20
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smkelly(a)zombie.org  | market so many programming failures.
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<[chrome]> weet iemand waar ze veel Intel netwerk spul verkopen?
 hehe, de blokker is daar ook goed in, kink
* Kink koopt niet bij de blokker en zeker geen spullen waarover hij BTW kan
  terugvorderen :)
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From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Apr 10 14:28:21 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing a Network Card
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:28:21 -0400
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Leon McClatchey wrote:
> 
> Hello, I loss my linux for a bit, seems the sczi card couldn't catch IRQ
> 10, was able to get back online by getting on via the installation
> kernel, then recompiled the kernel (had to take my pro-audio 16 sound
> card out until it can be determined why vmlinux keeps erroring out with
> a unresolved error for dma something or other) (btw, that is one
> question:-(
> 
> The main reason I recompiled the kernel however was because I just
> recently installed a pci ethernet card (was supposed to be ne2000
> compliant).  When I ran the diag in dos, I discovered the card is using
> irq 11.  (If it helps, it is a LanStar CC-3200PCI).  After rebooting
> into Linux, a message came up that it couldn't detect the ethernet
> card.  Guess that means I misconfigured something as I can see the card
> in both Dos and OS/2.

I can offer a few hints for the pci ethernet card.
First, see if you can get it to work as a module
with the standard kernel. You must have
kerneld running, and edit your /etc/conf.modules
to say the following

alias  eth0    ne

and 

options ne  io=0x6000 irq=10

put the correct io and irq for your
card.

If it is PCI and you have a PCI Bios and
motherboard, it should be detected
at boot up. You should be able
to enter   and read
what adreess and irq was assigned.

You probably don't have the io and irq right.

Also if you recompile your kernel with
ethernet built in, you must select
2 options in networking. 
Those are :
--- other isa cards
--- ne2000 support

It's just the way they patched it up to
have ne2000 with other isa cards.

Good luck,

zentara


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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Fri Apr 10 15:21:59 1998
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] [Off-Topic] Win 3.11 for sell! :)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:21:59 +0200
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Hi Gang!

I just got an flier from a computer store in Muenchen (Munich). Under
software is listed "Win 3.11 & Dos" for 95 DM (ca. 53$).

Any takers?

JIM

-----------------------------------------
Jim Hatridge
Germany 
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From adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com Fri Apr 10 15:41:52 1998
From: adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] stable kernels among 2.1.xx
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:41:52 -0400
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On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 10:13:36AM +0200, Anatoli Iouditski wrote:
> people say that the NFS drivers has been completely
> rewritten for 2.1.xx kernel. Now I'm looking for
> a stable (the most stable) version of those kernels.
> The requirements are very limited: I use SCSI 78xx
> adapter, basic sound chip, 3c905 (3c916) network card 
> and a PS2 mouse. However I am primarly concerned with
> the NFS speed. What would be the best bet among those 
> 2.1.xx kernels?

The latest. . . Duh


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From satan@nfinity.com Fri Apr 10 17:13:13 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] stable kernels among 2.1.xx
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:13:13 -0500
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2.1.89-2.1.92 all exhibited very good manners on my box.

Anatoli Iouditski wrote:

> Hello world,
>
> people say that the NFS drivers has been completely
> rewritten for 2.1.xx kernel. Now I'm looking for
> a stable (the most stable) version of those kernels.
> The requirements are very limited: I use SCSI 78xx
> adapter, basic sound chip, 3c905 (3c916) network card
> and a PS2 mouse. However I am primarly concerned with
> the NFS speed. What would be the best bet among those
> 2.1.xx kernels?
>
> Thnx,
> Anatoli
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From jep@jephill.com Fri Apr 10 18:02:25 1998
From: jep@jephill.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] stable kernels among 2.1.xx
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:02:25 -0600
Message-ID: <199804101702.MAA11043@mail10.jump.net>
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** Reply to note from "Andrew L. Davis"   
 Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:41:52 -0400 
> The latest. . . Duh  
  
The latest may be the best, but say "Duh" only if you forget the history   
of developmental kernels.  What once worked may later be broken   
(maybe more than once and maybe differently) in later code changes.   
 
The question is legit.  How about an answer to it?

Regards, 

Jep
Jep Hill
jep(a)jephill.com

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From adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com Fri Apr 10 18:06:05 1998
From: adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] stable kernels among 2.1.xx
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:06:05 -0400
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On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 12:02:25PM +0930, jep(a)jephill.com wrote:
> 
> ** Reply to note from "Andrew L. Davis"   
>  Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:41:52 -0400 
> > The latest. . . Duh  
>   
> The latest may be the best, but say "Duh" only if you forget the history   
> of developmental kernels.  What once worked may later be broken   
> (maybe more than once and maybe differently) in later code changes.   
>  
> The question is legit.  How about an answer to it?

Okay, so maybe not everyone knows but I think that there is a feature
freeze in affect for the 2.1.xxx kernel so the latest kernel should be 
the best for now.


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From satan@nfinity.com Fri Apr 10 19:30:13 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] stable kernels among 2.1.xx
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:30:13 -0500
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The freeze went into effect the day 2.1.93 was released.  My friends had
problems with 2.1.93(I didn't run it myself).  2.1.94 has since been
released, so perhaps the problems in 2.1.93 have been corrected in 2.1.94.

Andrew L. Davis wrote:

> Okay, so maybe not everyone knows but I think that there is a feature
> freeze in affect for the 2.1.xxx kernel so the latest kernel should be
> the best for now.
>
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From rdebruin@willow.cistron.nl Fri Apr 10 19:35:39 1998
From: rdebruin@willow.cistron.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Quake
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:35:39 +0200
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I am trying to run Quake2. However, I get the following error message:

Added packfile ./baseq2/pak1.pak (279 files)
execing default.cfg
couldn't exec config.cfg
Console initialized.

------- sound initialization -------
sound sampling rate: 11025
------------------------------------
------- Loading ref_soft.so -------
Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
recursive shutdown

Can somebody help me?

Regards, Ruud.


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From mailinfo@cgicon.com Fri Apr 10 19:40:35 1998
From: mailinfo@cgicon.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Web database
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:40:35 +0800
Message-ID: <352E75B3.B9B99CFA@cgicon.com>
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Jim Hodgers wrote:

---
> I wrote a database for a local non-profit organization using an Access DB.
> They would like to put it on the Web. Since the local ISP uses Linux I
---
> Does anyone on this list know of a DB App under Linux that would allow
> querying and maintaining an Access Db over the Web from Linux?

Hi Jim,
there are Databases available for Linux which have a Web-Interface !

That means, you don't have to write something in 'mesopotamien'=20
language etc. - you just put the requests into HTML, that's it
on the WWW side.

On the input side, where you want to feed the stuff into the
web database, you have to find a solution of exporting the
content of the AccessDB and transfer it into the webDB.

Prof. Databases running on Linux, costing some money, but have
support and have something to be accessed from MS-Windows, are:
LNX, Adabas, Empress, etc. many of them have a web interface, some
an ODBC-interface. To use a Database for free can be much more work
and trouble, if you don't have already experience with that.

I dunno how much data you want to feed in the beginning and how
much data it will be periodically. Your strategy depends somewhat
on such issues.=20

1. Maybe you first want to have a Linux machine beside the Windows
   machine to get familiar with the ness. procedures.
   Then you can connect this Linux box with the Server at the ISP
   over the Internet and transfer data 1:1 using web interface.

OR:

2. You write an Access-Basic Script to export data from AccessDB over
   TCP/IP while connecting to the target Linux box. First in one room,
   later over Internet. (Hopefully MS-Access Basic supports TCP/IP...)

All these procedures you can write and test in your office - the
difference later is just to go over the Internet (and speed of course).

After you got familiar with the technics, it's not that difficult.

Look on the SuSE site for more information on Databases.
http://w=
ww.suse.com/>
http://www=
.suse.de/>

My personal choice was LNX, because:
- Web interface in HTML tags !
- C interface for fast data input (feed)
- ODBC interfaces for Windows 3.1 / 95 / NT
- ODBC interface for Linux/Unix
- Java interface
- Python interface (now build in)
- ESQL/C interface
- ANSI SQL
- reasonable prize (much for the money)
- more...

Additionally take a look at MySQL.

Greetings by Lu

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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sat Apr 11 00:09:02 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] XDMC & KDE
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:09:02 -0400
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Is it possible to configure a suse system so that
it displays the KDM/KDE login screen when I access
the system with XDMC?  For example, when I connect
to a to a solaris system with my x-server running
on NT (X-Win32), I see the same login in screen
that I see on my Sun's local display.  I don't
know all the details of how this works, but I
believe that this functionality comes with the
Solaris CDE.  Currently if I run an XDMC query to
my suse box I can only run fvwm.  What I do now is
telnet in and run startkde.  This works but it
just isn't cool.

Steve


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From lsayre@en.com Sat Apr 11 02:04:28 1998
From: lsayre@en.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Scanmaker E6 and SuSE 5.1 (or 5.2)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:04:28 -0400
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I'm trying to decide which Linux distribution to install, and would like
to know if SuSE offers support for my Microtek E6 scanner (SCSI).

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From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Sat Apr 11 02:54:37 1998
From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing a Network Card
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:54:37 +0000
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On Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:28:21 -0400, zentara wrote:

>I can offer a few hints for the pci ethernet card.
>First, see if you can get it to work as a module
>with the standard kernel. You must have
>kerneld running, and edit your /etc/conf.modules
>to say the following
>
>alias  eth0    ne
>
>and 
>
>options ne  io=0x6000 irq=10
>
>put the correct io and irq for your
>card.
>
>If it is PCI and you have a PCI Bios and
>motherboard, it should be detected
>at boot up. You should be able
>to enter   and read
>what adreess and irq was assigned.
>
BTW, When I watch the messages being displayed on boot up, it does
specify the correct settings according to what I saw on the dos diag
program.  I'll have to remember that trick about shift pgup during
boot up:-)

>You probably don't have the io and irq right.
>
Actually, I didn't even specify a irq, but when it does come up, it
does say that it is using irq11 and the address is 6000.  Just when
Linux Boots in, it fails to initialize that particular irq.

>Also if you recompile your kernel with
>ethernet built in, you must select
>2 options in networking. 
>Those are :
>--- other isa cards
>--- ne2000 support

That is the way I did it, but I'll try to do it as a module and see
what happens:-)
>
>It's just the way they patched it up to
>have ne2000 with other isa cards.
>
>Good luck,
>
>zentara
>

Thanx Loads:-)

cya l8r
Leon
(leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com=ldmccla(a)ibm.net)

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From tpaulic@hotmail.com Sat Apr 11 02:55:26 1998
From: tpaulic@hotmail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] java apps
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:55:26 -0700
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Is it possible to run any java apps on my linux box? At www.jars.com=20
there is a huge list of java applications. If it is possible, how do I=20
go about getting them to run.=20

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From jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU Sat Apr 11 07:18:59 1998
From: jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] run uae ?
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:18:59 +1000
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Hi,

I'm not sure I can ask this question, but "uae" also a application in SuSE
distribution, so I guess..
uae is emulator for Amiga system. I just download the rpm package from
SuSE ftp.  There is doc but I can hardly understand how to run it.
I simply want to try some interseting games.
so, if someone know how to run the uae, please help me.

Cheers
jae
         


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From scurran@aracnet.net Sat Apr 11 10:48:05 1998
From: scurran@aracnet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] netscape tkdesk
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 06:48:05 -0400
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I have downloaded netscape, unzipped it but now I can't get it linked to
the netscape icon in tkdesk.
I have done the MODZILLA mode as instructed.
Any suggestions?
Denis


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From chaos@odn.de Sat Apr 11 13:24:09 1998
From: chaos@odn.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Scanmaker E6 and SuSE 5.1 (or 5.2)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:24:09 +0200
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HihO..
>=20
> I'm trying to decide which Linux distribution to install, and would like
> to know if SuSE offers support for my Microtek E6 scanner (SCSI).

the scan-driver-program sane supports your scanner and it=C5=BDs included in
suse 5.1 and 5.2 but i don=C5=BDt know in with version...

have a look at the sane homepage for microtek scanners:
=
http://www.mir.com/mtek/>

the only problem will be, that sane afaik only supports your scanner with
a kernel supported scsi-controller, not with the controller shipped with
the scanner...

o far...


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From owwkd@cybernix.com.sg Sat Apr 11 15:32:09 1998
From: owwkd@cybernix.com.sg
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Scanmaker E6 and SuSE 5.1 (or 5.2)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:32:09 +0800
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Hi..
> >=20
> > I'm trying to decide which Linux distribution to install, and would like
> > to know if SuSE offers support for my Microtek E6 scanner (SCSI).
>=20
> the scan-driver-program sane supports your scanner and it=C5=BDs included in
> suse 5.1 and 5.2 but i don=C5=BDt know in with version...
>=20
Any Linux distribution is Linux, it is all the same, as long as you have
installed the scanner software in your system, for this instance, SANE.=20

> have a look at the sane homepage for microtek scanners:
> http://www.mir.com/mtek/>
>=20
> the only problem will be, that sane afaik only supports your scanner with
> a kernel supported scsi-controller, not with the controller shipped with
> the scanner...
>=20
I'm not sure what SCSI host adapter Microtek E6 scanner is shipping with.=20
The one that is shipped with Mustek 800IISP is a NCR 5380 and it works
great with Linux. However, SANE is run with GIMP installed. The scanning
will be good if your graphic card supports 32 bits depth.=20

My 2cts.

Danny


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From mhtexcollins@ccms.net Sat Apr 11 18:22:56 1998
From: mhtexcollins@ccms.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] WM
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:22:56 -0500
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    Has anyone found out how to get rid of Xeyes and the
redundant clocks In the windowmanager??

I have read and experimented and killed my window more times than I
care to continue.  I have changed in emacs, english as root, as user,=20
as nobody,...  The book makes it seem so simple..  then it completely
leaves something out..... (probabably the important step)..  In the
case of the colors menu.  Never seen It.

And I think It should step you through if you choose "make wm in English.=
"=20
I just want sound and to get rid of some stuff that seems redundant.

        Thanks a million.

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TEX             http://www.ccms.net/~mh=
texcollins/78704.htm>

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From jpcowh01@dragon.slug.louisville.edu Sat Apr 11 18:46:13 1998
From: jpcowh01@dragon.slug.louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] run uae ?
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:46:13 -0400
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I believe that you need a copy of the kickstart 1.3 to use with uae.  You eit=
her need to flash on out of the eprom of an old amiga, write amiga and tell t=
hem that you are doing a scientific experiment and need a copy, or find someo=
ne who has it...

        I haven't used it yet, but from what I remember reading.... that's a =
basic start...

                                                Jonathan

P.S.  I have two old amigas (500 (1meg agnus and 1meg meme) and a 1000), I tr=
ying to find a modem program for it, and I don't know who, where to start...


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From afranklin@fnt.com Sat Apr 11 19:51:08 1998
From: afranklin@fnt.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] GNU Login
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:51:08 -0600
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I'm a Linux newbie and just got SuSE Linux. Could anyone help me with setting=
 up a gnu login for the system?

Any help will be deeply appreciated.

Thanks,

  Al=20


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From micheleamerica@geocities.com Sat Apr 11 20:50:58 1998
From: micheleamerica@geocities.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
 [S.u.S.E. Linux] ISDN Question: Pcbit DP passive ISDN adapter configuration.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:50:58 +0100
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Hello,


 


Has anyone ever installed a PCBIT DP pass=
ive=20
ISDN adapter on SuSE Linux 5.1 ? 


Does it use the PCBIT driver or one of th=
e other=20
? Ths board uses the Siemens PSB 21525 HSCX TE and PSB 2186 ISAC-S TE chips. =

Does it mean it is in fact a Hisax adapter ?


If someone could please give any informat=
ion i=20
would apreciate.


 


Thanks,


 


Michele America


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From mhtexcollins@ccms.net Sat Apr 11 20:52:53 1998
From: mhtexcollins@ccms.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Signature.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:52:53 -0500
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    Why does my signature show up in html when It was coded in vi?  That
is why I have html posts.
So sorry..  But I actually posted to ask if I was supposed to send in
html?  And never got an answer.
        Thanks for all the help.


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TEX             http://www.ccms.net/~mh=
texcollins/78704.htm>

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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Sat Apr 11 21:41:00 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] GNU Login
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:41:00 -0700
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> 
> I'm a Linux newbie and just got SuSE Linux. Could anyone help me with
> setting up a gnu login for the system?

 Unfortunately I have no idea what you mean by a GNU Login.
 Do you mean a new login? as in an additional user?  If so, then run
 yast as root, hit the item for administer system and then administer
 users, fill out the fields and hit f4 to create the user.

 In fact, page 289 of the manual begins section 19.1 Logging in, "root",
 adding users.
 page 291 features example commands
 # useradd -u 300 -g users -d /home/newbie -s /bin/bash -m newbie
 # passwd newbie

 Details of these commands can be found with 'man'.

 If you refer to the program 'login', then I was unaware that there was
 an official GNU version.

 If this does not answer the question, then please provide a more
 detailed description of what you are trying to do.

 -josh

> Any help will be deeply appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>   Al 
> 
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From rkeeley@dibbs.net Sat Apr 11 21:45:31 1998
From: rkeeley@dibbs.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] WM
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:45:31 -0500
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Tex,

In my case, what I did to get rid of Xeyes was go into .fvwm2rc or
.fvwm95rc in my HOME directory and # out the line that refers to

Xeyes. It is in there at least two places, and there may be more, I
cann't remember for sure now. I took the clock out also, as I didn't

like that big round clock up there, but am still trying to figure out
how they get the small digital clock in there.

    If you don't have a .fvwm2rc file in your Home directory
you have to go find the file that controls the Xwindows manager and do

the above, but I followed the instructions, and created the ".fvwm2rc"
file.

    You do the same things for the redundant clocks
if you wish. Taking things out is easy. Just pound them out! Or # them
out, BUT

putting something else in that will run can be a real learning experience!
Ahhhh, but you are then a programer in Xwindows.......

TEX wrote:

     Has anyone found out how
to get rid of Xeyes and the redundant clocks In the windowmanager??

I have read and experimented and killed my window more times than I
care to continue.  I have changed in emacs, english as root, as user,=20
as nobody,...  The book makes it seem so simple..  then it completely
leaves something out..... (probabably the important step)..  In the
case of the colors menu.  Never seen It.

And I think It should step you through if you choose "make wm in English.=
"=20
I just want sound and to get rid of some stuff that seems redundant.

        Thanks a million.

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TEX             http:=
//www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm

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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Sat Apr 11 21:50:36 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] What does traceroute really do?
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:50:36 -0700
Message-ID: <199804112150.OAA07021@skaro.nightcrawler.com>
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=20
> I did read the man pages on this and got basically what you said out
> of them.

Yep, sometimes painful, but always useful.

> >>Thus the numbers are the round trip times for each probe.  If you wish <<
>=20
> To me this means  the first hop would return a small number, the second wou=
ld
> be a larger number, and the third even larger, etc.  I often see numbers th=
at
> are further downstream come back significantly lower than the ones that are
> closer.  I guess this has to do with both the random nature of the values a=
nd
> the fact (if I am understanding this) generating the TTL error might take
> longer than passing the packet.

Yes indeed.

> traceroute tells me how
> long between the time the ICMP leaves home and the time it comes back.

Actually when the UDP packet leaves home and when the ICMP-based error
comes back, but close enough.  The random nature is due to taking a
'snapshot' of the highly dynamic Internet.

> a closer router may not process it's TTL error as quickly as a downstream
> router.=20

This second factor has to do with the nature of routers.  Most any
router or routing agent exists on a multitasking machine which has many
many needs to attend to.  Sending TTL errors is a rather low priority as
compared with routing valid packets along.  Thus this is the kind of
task which is scheduled at low priorities and only completed when the
system is 'idle'.  In fact, some router's won't send this error at all,
and you'll see entries in your traceroute like so:

13 * * *

How frustrating!

Happy hacking,

-josh


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From lsayre@en.com Sun Apr 12 02:01:52 1998
From: lsayre@en.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Buy SuSE 5.2 or wait for SuSE 6.0?
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:01:52 -0400
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Since I have not yet purchased and installed Linux, and I'm interested
in what I'm hearing about SuSE 6.0, should I go ahead and purchase 5.2,
then install an upgrade later, or should I wait several months for the
release of 6.0 (5.3....)?

Will there be a painless and reasonably priced upgrade path?

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From w4oa@vibroplex.com Sun Apr 12 03:32:39 1998
From: w4oa@vibroplex.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Buy SuSE 5.2 or wait for SuSE 6.0?
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:32:39 -0500
Message-ID: <353035D7.72588250@vibroplex.com>
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Lawrence Sayre wrote:
>=20
> Since I have not yet purchased and installed Linux, and I'm interested
> in what I'm hearing about SuSE 6.0, should I go ahead and purchase 5.2,
> then install an upgrade later, or should I wait several months for the
> release of 6.0 (5.3....)?
>=20
> Will there be a painless and reasonably priced upgrade path?
>=20
> -------------------------------------------
> Man's mind is his basic tool of survival!
>=20
> lsayre(a)en.com 
> -------------------------------------------

i started with 5.0, got 5.1 as soon as it was available...
i wouldn't wait... suse 5.1 is already awsome!!! i have
a standing order in for the upgrades...

mitch

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From arnulf@geo.uni-bonn.de Sun Apr 12 09:52:26 1998
From: arnulf@geo.uni-bonn.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Buy SuSE 5.2 or wait for SuSE 6.0?
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:52:26 +0200
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> From lsayre(a)en.com  Sun Apr 12 11:39:34 1998
> Message-ID: <35302090.A6DD01F8(a)en.com>
> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:01:52 -0400
> From: Lawrence Sayre 
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I)
> To: SuSE Linux 
> Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Buy SuSE 5.2 or wait for SuSE 6.0?
> Sender: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> X-Mailinglist: suse-linux-e

> 
> Since I have not yet purchased and installed Linux, and I'm interested
> in what I'm hearing about SuSE 6.0, should I go ahead and purchase 5.2,
> then install an upgrade later, or should I wait several months for the
> release of 6.0 (5.3....)?
> 
> Will there be a painless and reasonably priced upgrade path?
> 

Hi!

I have 5.1 and I think it is really worth the money.
5.2 must be better from what people say.
But at the moment I wouldn's say that there is a
reasonably priced upgrade path for me from 5.1 to 5.2.
The upgrade in Germany costs 800f the new version.
This is the price of the students version.
If you see it relatively, it's steep,
but all in all I assume that suses gain
is very sharp calculated.

I'd make it depend on the contents of the package.
The main differences between 5.? and 6.? will be definitely the
libs and maybe the c-compiler , I think.

I haven't bought 5.2 because when I felt I needed
an update of a program, I got it myself.
I expect that upgrading to 6.? will be difficult,
when you intend to make a lot changes to the system
yourself, these probably will make difficulties.

arnulf

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From jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU Sun Apr 12 11:05:23 1998
From: jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] compile Qt program
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:05:23 +1000
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Hi,

Anyone knows how to compile the program using Qt Library in
SuSE ?

I tried,
        cc -o hello -I/usr/X11R6/lib/qt/include hello.c
then, I got a hundred of errors.

Cheers
jae


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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Sun Apr 12 11:59:26 1998
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Signature.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:59:26 +0200
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On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, TEX wrote:

HI TEX!

>=20
>     Why does my signature show up in html when It was coded in vi?  That
> is why I have html posts.

This I don't know.

> So sorry..  But I actually posted to ask if I was supposed to send in
> html?  And never got an answer.

You can post in html, but personally I consider it bad manners. This is
because not everyone is using netscape or anther browser to read their
mail. I, for example, use pine. Pine is not able to read html. All I get
is a note saying to save it and look at it later. Normally I just skip it.
This is more than likly why you never got an answer.=20

>         Thanks for all the help.
>=20
> --
> LINUX IS THE PATH.
>=20
> TEX             http://www.ccms.net/~=
mhtexcollins/78704.htm>
>=20
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PS. Like your .sig!

JIM

-----------------------------------------
Jim Hatridge
Germany=20
hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de

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as the boat capsized. But a tragedy was avoided when they discovered that
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From owwkd@cybernix.com.sg Sun Apr 12 12:52:15 1998
From: owwkd@cybernix.com.sg
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:52:15 +0800
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Hi,
Ok, TEX, hope you have not given up yet. Do the following steps:

1.  "cd /usr/src/linux/"

2.  "make clean"

3.  "make menuconfig"

4.  Choose all that you want to compile into the kernel, there is always
"help" box when needed.

5.  When you get to the part on "sound", you can choose either to compile
it as a module or into the kernel. Then you set your sound card's
parameters accordingly. Say no the the "Old configuration".

Once all these are set, exit from "menuconfig".

6.  "make dep ; make clean"

7.  "make zlilo"

8.  "make modules"

9.  "make modules_install"

10. Reboot your system.

11. "cat /dev/sndstat" to check if your sound system is configured.

Happy Easter.

Danny

ps.  I like your .signature "Linux ...IQ higher than 95"  but this time
I missed it with your html tag turned on.

>=20
> 
>     I am trying to get sounds for different keyboard events.=20
> I found the module stuff, read the man pages, pushed the buttons told it
> to save the desktop everything I can think of.  Is there a step by
> step set of instructions to get this working so it stays on all the time.=20
> In all those pages of reading I do not think it is in there.
>=20
> 
Perhaps a small script We could copy that would turn everything on to
> begin with and then we have to worry about turning it off.  I like
> bells and whistles.
>=20
> 
Like having to recompile the kernal for sound when I had loaded sound
> programs up It should have done the kernal or a module there. =20
> But I got by that with yalls help so please I'm askin' again..Help[.
> 
And thanks again.
> 
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> LINUX IS THE PATH.
>=20
> TEX             http://www=
.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm>">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm>
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>=20
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>                     / /    __  _  _  _  _ __  __
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>                   ...for IQ's Greater than 95...

>  
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From weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de Sun Apr 12 14:27:52 1998
From: weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] java apps
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 16:27:52 +0200
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Hi!

Trying to kill the keyboard, tpaulic(a)hotmail.com produced:
> 
> Is it possible to run any java apps on my linux box? At www.jars.com 

Yes. You have to compile the kernel with java support (compiled in or as a
module, I am not sure if the precompiled kernels have this feature, but they
well may) and (from the help of make menuconfig)

   If you want to use this, read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/java.txt and
   the Java on Linux HOWTO, available via ftp (user: anonymous) at
   sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO. You will then need to install the
   run time system contained in the Java Developers Kit (JDK) as described
   in the HOWTO.

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From jacobw@louisville.edu Sun Apr 12 18:05:09 1998
From: jacobw@louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] java apps
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:05:09 -0400
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> 
> Yes. You have to compile the kernel with java support (compiled in or as a
> module, I am not sure if the precompiled kernels have this feature, but they
> well may) and (from the help of make menuconfig)

Actually, its not even that hard. SuSE ships with the JDK, thats all you
need to run java apps. 

You only have to recompile the kernel if you want .class files to be
recognized as executable binaries, so you can type ./MyJavaProg rather
than typing java MyJavaProg. 

Either way you go, you still have to have the JDK, or at least a Java
Runtime Environment.

jrw

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From aurora@jvlnet.com Sun Apr 12 22:27:58 1998
From: aurora@jvlnet.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] xvidtune
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:27:58 -0500
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I too am having the same problem with Red Hat 5.0.  Unfortunately I do not
have an answer to your question, as my system experiences the same problem.
If I manage to come across anything I will let you know.

Gerry


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From mhtexcollins@ccms.net Mon Apr 13 01:58:52 1998
From: mhtexcollins@ccms.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:58:52 -0500
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I have had this done for days.  Of what I speak is having the keyboard and mo=
use actions have sound with them.  It works for tkDesk so I know That tk desk=
 can turn it on..  Why not not
wfwm2??  It is in the setup files but I cannot find the switch.. There is a w=
hole list of different things to happen.  But no matter what I do to config i=
t  it kills my window.I did load
some more stuff today through yast and at least the modules give me the man p=
ages now.  But where is that lousy switch,  I'm close I know.   H  E  L   PP.

Ow W K Danny wrote:

> Hi,
> Ok, TEX, hope you have not given up yet. Do the following steps:
>
> 1.  "cd /usr/src/linux/"
>
> 2.  "make clean"
>
> 3.  "make menuconfig"
>

Mine only worked after a "make config"  I tried the other two methods and sou=
nd kept dying in "make clean" I believe.

> 4.  Choose all that you want to compile into the kernel, there is always
> "help" box when needed.
>
> 5.  When you get to the part on "sound", you can choose either to compile
> it as a module or into the kernel. Then you set your sound card's
> parameters accordingly. Say no the the "Old configuration".
>
> Once all these are set, exit from "menuconfig".
>
> 6.  "make dep ; make clean"
>
> 7.  "make zlilo"
>
> 8.  "make modules"
>
> 9.  "make modules_install"
>
> 10. Reboot your system.
>
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From satan@nfinity.com Mon Apr 13 02:25:42 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:25:42 -0500
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Ow W K Danny wrote:

> Hi,
> Ok, TEX, hope you have not given up yet. Do the following steps:
>
> 1.  "cd /usr/src/linux/"
>
> 2.  "make clean"

make mrproper

>
>
> 3.  "make menuconfig"

or make config

>
>
> 4.  Choose all that you want to compile into the kernel, there is always
> "help" box when needed.
>
> 5.  When you get to the part on "sound", you can choose either to compile
> it as a module or into the kernel.

make sound a module, trust me

> Then you set your sound card's
> parameters accordingly. Say no the the "Old configuration".
>
> Once all these are set, exit from "menuconfig".
>
> 6.  "make dep ; make clean"
>
> 7.  "make zlilo"

or make zImage if you want to boot from hard drive, preferable I think, but t=
hat's subjective

>
>
> 8.  "make modules"
>
> 9.  "make modules_install"
>
> 10. Reboot your system.

DO NOT forget to:cp arch/i386/boot/zImage /vmlinuz
if you make zImage
then you must also:
/sbin/lilo

>
>
> 11. "cat /dev/sndstat" to check if your sound system is configured.
>
> Happy Easter.
>
> Danny
>

I was so happy the first time I got sound up in linux (not as happy as gettin=
g ppp right, but happy still) :)good luck


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From dana@ntd.net Mon Apr 13 03:20:46 1998
From: dana@ntd.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] XV
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 22:20:46 -0500
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I downloaded the xv source package, and when I do a make everything
goes just fine until the end when it trys to grab some .h files from the

X11 directory.  Here's the info:

xv.h:72: X11/Xos.h: No such file or directory
In file included from xv.c:11:
xv.h:174: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
xv.h:175: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory
xv.h:176: X11/cursorfont.h: No such file or directory
xv.h:177: X11/keysym.h: No such file or directory
xv.h:178: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory
xv.h:179: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory
xv.h:180: X11/Xmd.h: No such file or directory
xv.c:20: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [xv.o] Error 1

Ideas?  I'm running 5.1 btw.  Thanks!

Dana


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From satan@nfinity.com Mon Apr 13 03:57:55 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] XV
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 22:57:55 -0500
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You must not have the xdevel rpm installed.  Always install all libraries
whether you think you need them or not, because undoubtedly some app will
want one you left out if you don't.  Check in yast, all packages, and see if
you have xdevel installed, I bet that's the one.  good luck

Dana J. Laude wrote:

> I downloaded the xv source package, and when I do a make everything
> goes just fine until the end when it trys to grab some .h files from the
>
> X11 directory.  Here's the info:
>
> xv.h:72: X11/Xos.h: No such file or directory
> In file included from xv.c:11:
> xv.h:174: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
> xv.h:175: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory
> xv.h:176: X11/cursorfont.h: No such file or directory
> xv.h:177: X11/keysym.h: No such file or directory
> xv.h:178: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory
> xv.h:179: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory
> xv.h:180: X11/Xmd.h: No such file or directory
> xv.c:20: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory
> make: *** [xv.o] Error 1
>
> Ideas?  I'm running 5.1 btw.  Thanks!
>
> Dana
>
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From deem@wdm.com Mon Apr 13 03:58:36 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] XV
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 19:58:36 -0800
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"Dana J. Laude"  wrote:
> 
> I downloaded the xv source package, and when I do a make everything
> goes just fine until the end when it trys to grab some .h files from the
> 
> X11 directory.  Here's the info:
> 
> xv.h:72: X11/Xos.h: No such file or directory
> In file included from xv.c:11:
> xv.h:174: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
> xv.h:175: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory
> xv.h:176: X11/cursorfont.h: No such file or directory
> xv.h:177: X11/keysym.h: No such file or directory
> xv.h:178: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory
> xv.h:179: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory
> xv.h:180: X11/Xmd.h: No such file or directory
> xv.c:20: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory
> make: *** [xv.o] Error 1
> 
> Ideas?  I'm running 5.1 btw.  Thanks!
> 
> Dana
> 

I just got done compiling the XV source package. I edited a few files
like xv.h and Makefile but it worked fine under my copy of 5.1
I'm not sure what you are missing.

-Dee

 

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From bouke@xs4all.nl Mon Apr 13 04:05:59 1998
From: bouke@xs4all.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: how to get rid off dummy0
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 06:05:59 +0200
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Dear People,

When I install suse on a new machine as an internet-server it keeps adding
an dummy0 device to ifconfig. How do i get rid of this dumm dummy?

I try to install this machine with 5.1 (2.0.32) an a machine which is meant
to work through a router on a leased line. it keeps sending al the tcp/ip
stuff to the dummy instead of eth0 (which is a 3c509). I can ofcourse delete
the route but i wonder if this will fix the problem and i just want to get
rid of the dummy.

Second problem,bug,whatever is yast.
When i build my router i had to physically change my modem to ttyS0(com1)
(which is my leased line) and my mouse to ttyS1. After every yast session
(0.79.1) it has switched my manual settings back to modem ttyS1 and mouse to
ttyS0.
Anyone a bright idea how to fix this?

Tnx in advance
Bouke

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From adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com Mon Apr 13 04:59:35 1998
From: adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] java apps
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:59:35 -0400
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On Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 02:05:09PM -0400, Jacob Robert Wilkins wrote:
> > Yes. You have to compile the kernel with java support (compiled in or as a
> > module, I am not sure if the precompiled kernels have this feature, but t=
hey
> > well may) and (from the help of make menuconfig)
>=20
> Actually, its not even that hard. SuSE ships with the JDK, thats all you
> need to run java apps.=20
>=20
> You only have to recompile the kernel if you want .class files to be
> recognized as executable binaries, so you can type ./MyJavaProg rather
> than typing java MyJavaProg.=20
>=20
> Either way you go, you still have to have the JDK, or at least a Java
> Runtime Environment.

Because I have upgraded my system by hand so much I cannot remember if I=20
added the JDK.  What are the key componets of the JDK so that I can "locate"
them?  If I cannot find them then you do not need the JDK to run Java bins;
but you do need to have the feature on in the kernel.
=20

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From dana@ntd.net Mon Apr 13 05:41:05 1998
From: dana@ntd.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] XV
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:41:05 -0500
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Michael Lankton wrote:

> You must not have the xdevel rpm installed.  Always install all libraries
> whether you think you need them or not, because undoubtedly some app will
> want one you left out if you don't.  Check in yast, all packages, and see if
> you have xdevel installed, I bet that's the one.  good luck

You nailed it correctly Michael, thanks!  I installed the xdevel and
everythingworks fine.  Very cool!

Thanks again!

Dana


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From kyle@dsndata.com Mon Apr 13 13:44:00 1998
From: kyle@dsndata.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: how to get rid off dummy0
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:44:00 -0500
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Bouke van der Voet writes:

 > When I install suse on a new machine as an internet-server it keeps adding
 > an dummy0 device to ifconfig. How do i get rid of this dumm dummy?

I think that you may need to edit /etc/rc.config.  There is an option to
SETUPDUMMYDEV=3D  and you probably want to set it to no.  If you don't
change it in rc.config it will keep coming back.  After editing
rc.config be sure to run SuSEconfig.

 > I try to install this machine with 5.1 (2.0.32) an a machine which is meant
 > to work through a router on a leased line. it keeps sending al the tcp/ip
 > stuff to the dummy instead of eth0 (which is a 3c509). I can ofcourse dele=
te
 > the route but i wonder if this will fix the problem and i just want to get
 > rid of the dummy.

Not sure if it will fix the problem.

 > Second problem,bug,whatever is yast.
 > When i build my router i had to physically change my modem to ttyS0(com1)
 > (which is my leased line) and my mouse to ttyS1. After every yast session
 > (0.79.1) it has switched my manual settings back to modem ttyS1 and mouse =
to
 > ttyS0.
 > Anyone a bright idea how to fix this?

This is also set up in /etc/rc.config.  If you didn't make the changes
here then your modem and mouse will probably continue to be set to the
wrong ports.  Don't forget to run SuSEconfig.  More info on page 174 in
the manual.

Hope this helps

kyle

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From netsomni@fastrans.net Mon Apr 13 14:12:48 1998
From: netsomni@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] CD-ROM IDE
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:12:48 +0000
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CDROM interface should be irrelevant, as long as you have 
an audio out port on your CDROM drive.

I use IDE24x. Don't ask at me who the manufanturer is. Music plays, 
/dev/hdc has a symbolic link to /dev/cdrom and my mount point is 
/cdrom for iso9660.

-N

> Date:          Mon, 13 Apr 98 12:23 CDT
> From:          kyle(a)dsndata.com (Kyle Edbauer)
> To:            suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Subject:       [S.u.S.E. Linux] CD-ROM IDE
> Reply-to:      suse-linux-e(a)suse.com

> 
> 
> jovator(a)arrakis.es writes:
> 
>  > Anybody can tell me how I can use my CD-ROM IDE to play CD-AUDIO from
>  > Linux. The aplications in SuSE 5.1 only works fine with CD-ROM SCSI.
>  > Where I can find an aplications that it work with the other kinds of
>  > CD-ROM units ?.
> 
> I've had success using workman (xwindows program) and cd-console with my
> ide CD-ROM.  When you pull up those apps is it showing the number of
> songs?  Will it attempt to play without any sound?  What kind of CD-ROM
> do you have?
> 
> If the programs seem to be playing, try typing:  cat /dev/sndstat  from
> an xterm window.
> 
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From jdkc@woptura.com Mon Apr 13 14:44:18 1998
From: jdkc@woptura.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] XV
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:44:18 -0500
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Dana J. Laude wrote:

> Michael Lankton wrote:
>
> > You must not have the xdevel rpm installed.  Always install all libraries
> > whether you think you need them or not, because undoubtedly some app will
> > want one you left out if you don't.  Check in yast, all packages, and see=
 if
> > you have xdevel installed, I bet that's the one.  good luck
>
> You nailed it correctly Michael, thanks!  I installed the xdevel and
> everythingworks fine.  Very cool!
>

How do you install the "xdevel"?  Sounds like some of my problems.  Tried to =
go
to Yast, but it isn't a directory and wouldn't let me look at it.


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From kyle@dsndata.com Mon Apr 13 17:23:00 1998
From: kyle@dsndata.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] CD-ROM IDE
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:23:00 -0500
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jovator(a)arrakis.es writes:

 > Anybody can tell me how I can use my CD-ROM IDE to play CD-AUDIO from
 > Linux. The aplications in SuSE 5.1 only works fine with CD-ROM SCSI.
 > Where I can find an aplications that it work with the other kinds of
 > CD-ROM units ?.

I've had success using workman (xwindows program) and cd-console with my
ide CD-ROM.  When you pull up those apps is it showing the number of
songs?  Will it attempt to play without any sound?  What kind of CD-ROM
do you have?

If the programs seem to be playing, try typing:  cat /dev/sndstat  from
an xterm window.


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From mhtexcollins@ccms.net Mon Apr 13 17:28:42 1998
From: mhtexcollins@ccms.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] CD-ROM IDE
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:28:42 -0500
Message-ID: <35324B49.D0505E77@ccms.net>
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First I compiled sound in my kernal, then un and re installed Xmcd.  The
first time I ran it it did a little setup routine, but this ide just
loves it thanks..I havn,t tried any others though.  This one works just
fine.   Email me privately if you are not cofortable with posting
here..  I can,t get many answers here and I think It is cause nobody
knows..

Have fun.

José Valerdi Tormo wrote:

> Anybody can tell me how I can use my CD-ROM IDE to play CD-AUDIO from
> Linux. The aplications in SuSE 5.1 only works fine with CD-ROM SCSI.
> Where I can find an aplications that it work with the other kinds of
> CD-ROM units ?.
>
> Thanks
>
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From bb@suse.com Mon Apr 13 17:35:01 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: how to get rid off dummy0
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:35:01 -0700
Message-ID: <35324CC5.C5BCE888@suse.com>
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Bouke van der Voet wrote:
>=20
> Dear People,
>=20
> When I install suse on a new machine as an internet-server it keeps adding
> an dummy0 device to ifconfig. How do i get rid of this dumm dummy?
>=20
> I try to install this machine with 5.1 (2.0.32) an a machine which is meant
> to work through a router on a leased line. it keeps sending al the tcp/ip
> stuff to the dummy instead of eth0 (which is a 3c509). I can ofcourse delete
> the route but i wonder if this will fix the problem and i just want to get
> rid of the dummy.
>=20
> Second problem,bug,whatever is yast.
> When i build my router i had to physically change my modem to ttyS0(com1)
> (which is my leased line) and my mouse to ttyS1. After every yast session
> (0.79.1) it has switched my manual settings back to modem ttyS1 and mouse to
> ttyS0.
> Anyone a bright idea how to fix this?

Hi,

just set this to 'no' in /etc/rc.config and you get rid of the dummy device:

#=20
# setup dummy network device for IPADDR_0? this is useful for non permanent
# network connections (e.g. SLIP, PPP). Some software needs a connection
# to FQHOSTNAME (e.g. plp). (yes, no)
SETUPDUMMYDEV=3Dyes

But anyway, you have to get your routing table correct....

The mouse and modem diveces are also set in rc.config:

#
# Which device is the mouse ? (e.g. "/dev/ttyS0")
#
MOUSE=3D"/dev/psaux"

#
# Which device is the modem ? (e.g. "/dev/cua1")
#
MODEM=3D"/dev/ttyS1"

Ciao,
        BB


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From rhumbert@avignon.pacwan.net Mon Apr 13 17:40:04 1998
From: rhumbert@avignon.pacwan.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Error message in YaST
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:40:04 +0200
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I have just installed KDE beta 3 from Suse ftp site and since then i get the
following error message when YaST runs SuSEconfig :
"ERROR - can not find /lib/YaST/SuSEconfig.functions!!
This should not happen. Exit..."
Will it cause problems later ? 
Does anyone know how can i fix the problem ?

Thanks

Régis

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From bb@suse.com Mon Apr 13 17:40:11 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] CD-ROM IDE
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:40:11 -0700
Message-ID: <35324DFB.769A9DF8@suse.com>
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Jos=C3=A9 Valerdi Tormo wrote:
>=20
> Anybody can tell me how I can use my CD-ROM IDE to play CD-AUDIO from
> Linux. The aplications in SuSE 5.1 only works fine with CD-ROM SCSI.
> Where I can find an aplications that it work with the other kinds of
> CD-ROM units ?.

'xmcd' works fine with IDE CDROM, also 'workman' does.=20

Ciao,
        BB


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From gecko@freecar.com Mon Apr 13 18:55:36 1998
From: gecko@freecar.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cross-compiler
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:55:36 -0700
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This is probably not the right place, but maybe someone out there has the
answer, anyway... or -- if not -- can point me in the right direction...

I would like a compiler that can compile my WineDoze (31) code... under linux=
.=20
I (unfortunatly) must continue to write code for the 3.1 "os" but I'd really
like be able to do all my editing and compilation under Linux.  That way I'd
only have to use windows to test the code and I can dedicate a 386 to that
task..

Is there such a compiler out there??????  Will GNU C do it?=20

- Darren

P.S.  I don't need c++, just c.
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From jelists@rbeep.com.br Mon Apr 13 19:22:05 1998
From: jelists@rbeep.com.br
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cross-compiler
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:22:05 -0300
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On Mon, 13 Apr 1998 gecko(a)freecar.com wrote:

>=20
> This is probably not the right place, but maybe someone out there has the
> answer, anyway... or -- if not -- can point me in the right direction...
>=20
> I would like a compiler that can compile my WineDoze (31) code... under lin=
ux.=20
> I (unfortunatly) must continue to write code for the 3.1 "os" but I'd really
> like be able to do all my editing and compilation under Linux.  That way I'd
> only have to use windows to test the code and I can dedicate a 386 to that
> task..
        Continue using you actual compiler. Run windows under wine in
linux. This will enable you even to *test* in the same machine.
>=20
> Is there such a compiler out there??????  Will GNU C do it?=20
        No, gcc will only do 32bits. If you were targeting win32 you could
use Cygnus' gnu-win32...
>=20
> - Darren
        []s, Jacques


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From gecko@freecar.com Mon Apr 13 19:37:35 1998
From: gecko@freecar.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cross-compiler
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:37:35 -0700
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No can do... I'm compiling with Borland C 3.1 command-line compiler.  BCC.EXE
won't run under linux and it take over twice the time to compile running
BCC.EXE under DOSEmu... when it will run under DOSEmu.. it's kinda touchy.

I either need a better dos emulator or a native linux app.

On 13-Apr-98 Jacques Exelrud wrote:
>        Continue using you actual compiler. Run windows under wine in
>linux. This will enable you even to *test* in the same machine.

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From andyford@fastrans.net Mon Apr 13 19:40:29 1998
From: andyford@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Buy SuSE 5.2 or wait for SuSE 6.0?
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:40:29 -0500
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tulf wrote:
> 
> > From lsayre(a)en.com  Sun Apr 12 11:39:34 1998
> > Message-ID: <35302090.A6DD01F8(a)en.com>
> > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:01:52 -0400
> > From: Lawrence Sayre 
> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I)
> > To: SuSE Linux 
> > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Buy SuSE 5.2 or wait for SuSE 6.0?
> > Sender: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> > Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> > X-Mailinglist: suse-linux-e
> 
> >
> > Since I have not yet purchased and installed Linux, and I'm interested
> > in what I'm hearing about SuSE 6.0, should I go ahead and purchase 5.2,
> > then install an upgrade later, or should I wait several months for the
> > release of 6.0 (5.3....)?
> >
> > Will there be a painless and reasonably priced upgrade path?
> >
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I have 5.1 and I think it is really worth the money.
> 5.2 must be better from what people say.
> But at the moment I wouldn's say that there is a
> reasonably priced upgrade path for me from 5.1 to 5.2.
> The upgrade in Germany costs 800f the new version.
> This is the price of the students version.
> If you see it relatively, it's steep,
> but all in all I assume that suses gain
> is very sharp calculated.
> 
> I'd make it depend on the contents of the package.
> The main differences between 5.? and 6.? will be definitely the
> libs and maybe the c-compiler , I think.
> 
> I haven't bought 5.2 because when I felt I needed
> an update of a program, I got it myself.
> I expect that upgrading to 6.? will be difficult,
> when you intend to make a lot changes to the system
> yourself, these probably will make difficulties.
> 
> arnulf
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One approach is to get a running system, and then just
upgrade the 
things that you need to. You can insert, say, a new kernel
into any distribution pretty painlessly (with a little
reading and research). That said, leaving well enough alone
is the key to
a "highly available" system. Of course as soon as I finish
this I'll run off and install a bunch of cool stuff that
i'll probably never use :)

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From andyford@fastrans.net Mon Apr 13 19:44:59 1998
From: andyford@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] java apps
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:44:59 -0500
Message-ID: <35326B3B.299A0443@fastrans.net>
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Andrew L. Davis wrote:
>=20
> On Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 02:05:09PM -0400, Jacob Robert Wilkins wrote:
> > > Yes. You have to compile the kernel with java support (compiled in or a=
s a
> > > module, I am not sure if the precompiled kernels have this feature, but=
 they
> > > well may) and (from the help of make menuconfig)
> >
> > Actually, its not even that hard. SuSE ships with the JDK, thats all you
> > need to run java apps.
> >
> > You only have to recompile the kernel if you want .class files to be
> > recognized as executable binaries, so you can type ./MyJavaProg rather
> > than typing java MyJavaProg.
> >
> > Either way you go, you still have to have the JDK, or at least a Java
> > Runtime Environment.
>=20
> Because I have upgraded my system by hand so much I cannot remember if I
> added the JDK.  What are the key componets of the JDK so that I can "locate"
> them?  If I cannot find them then you do not need the JDK to run Java bins;
> but you do need to have the feature on in the kernel.
>=20
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try this:
andy(a)ford:/home/andy > which javac
/usr/lib/java/bin/javac
andy(a)ford:/home/andy > which java
/usr/lib/java/bin/java
andy(a)ford:/home/andy >=20

i believe that if you have the JRE instead of the full JDK
you will have
java but not javac (the compiler).

for more info try:=20
locate java

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From andyford@fastrans.net Mon Apr 13 19:45:12 1998
From: andyford@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Signature.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:45:12 -0500
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Jim Hatridge wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, TEX wrote:
> 
> HI TEX!
> 
> >
> >     Why does my signature show up in html when It was coded in vi?  That
> > is why I have html posts.
> 

you need to set an option in the preferences for netscape.
pull down the edit menu, choose prefs, and goto the messages
page.

yours,
Andy

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From chaos@odn.de Mon Apr 13 19:54:56 1998
From: chaos@odn.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] CD-ROM IDE
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:54:56 +0200
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HiHO...
> 
> Anybody can tell me how I can use my CD-ROM IDE to play CD-AUDIO from
> Linux. The aplications in SuSE 5.1 only works fine with CD-ROM SCSI.
> Where I can find an aplications that it work with the other kinds of
> CD-ROM units ?.

you can use workman for xwindows and workbone for the console- both work
with ide/atapi cdroms...

o far...


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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Mon Apr 13 21:24:54 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Upgrading SuSE from version to version
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:24:54 -0700
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I'm sure this is a FAQ and is covered in some documentation somewhere,
but, as per usual, I can't seem to find it.

I'm looking for information on how the upgrade process of SuSE works.
Specifically:

- Are SuSE 5.2 packages meant to run on a 5.1 suse system?
- Can one upgrade from SuSE 5.1 to SuSE 5.2 without acquiring the
    CD-ROMs?

in more detail:

- Are SuSE 5.2 packages meant to run on a 5.1 suse system?
    
    I would assume some packages will work.  However, as you go to 6.0
with glibc, I imagine some compatability of binaries will break.  Is
there ever an implicit assumption of package binary compatability, or
when mix/matching distributions are "all bets off"?

- Can one upgrade from SuSE 5.1 to SuSE 5.2 without acquiring the
    CD-ROMs?

    While I would like to encourage everyone to support this wonderful
operating system as much as possible, I am somewhat loathe to plunk down
another 40-50$ for something i bought just 2 months ago or so.   (Do not
think too poorly of me!  I sponsored a new linux user into SuSE just
last month, ie. 25$ each).

    In addition, my main SuSE system is miles and miles from here and
rather inconvenient to approach physically, while it has a very speedy
network connection.

    By reading through the SuSE book it seems that if i have the CD-ROM
media and a boot disk that I could indeed use YaST to update update the
entirety of the base system, and then proceed to boot up under the new
base and update the remaining packages.  I can consider this, should my
other options fail.

    I understand that it is necessary to have an alternate set of system
files for updating purposes.  The 'normal' method being the supplied
CD-ROM.  The README.FTP file outlines a method supplied using hard links, 
if I properly understand things.  Surprisingly, this file only talks 
about NFS, not FTP.  Is this a 'legacy' thing, or is it possible to use 
FTP and I'm just a complete dunderhead?

    Lastly, if it truly is only possible to upgade is it conceivable to
set up a NFS mirror of the ftp.suse.com/pub/SuSE-Linux/5.2 tree, or is
this one of the incentives to purchase the CD sets oneself?

-josh

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From gecko@freecar.com Mon Apr 13 21:26:26 1998
From: gecko@freecar.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cross-compiler
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:26:26 -0700
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Here's another one...=20

I love the old MAN files.  It's so easy to get a hard copy of them.  These new
info files, however, I find a PitA.  Anybody want to talk me through printing
them?  Preferably in mass w/o having to step through each indiviual page of=20
the topic I'm interested in...???

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From satan@nfinity.com Mon Apr 13 21:56:14 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cross-compiler
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:56:14 -0500
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Is it possible to fire up win95 in bochs and run borland? Try that.

gecko(a)freecar.com wrote:

> No can do... I'm compiling with Borland C 3.1 command-line compiler.  BCC.E=
XE
> won't run under linux and it take over twice the time to compile running
> BCC.EXE under DOSEmu... when it will run under DOSEmu.. it's kinda touchy.
>
> I either need a better dos emulator or a native linux app.
>
> On 13-Apr-98 Jacques Exelrud wrote:
> >        Continue using you actual compiler. Run windows under wine in
> >linux. This will enable you even to *test* in the same machine.
>
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From gecko@freecar.com Mon Apr 13 22:07:12 1998
From: gecko@freecar.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cross-compiler
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:07:12 -0700
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On 13-Apr-98 Michael Lankton wrote:
>
>Is it possible to fire up win95 in bochs and run borland? Try that.
>

What is bochs?
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From gecko@freecar.com Mon Apr 13 22:21:21 1998
From: gecko@freecar.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cross-compiler
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:21:21 -0700
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On 13-Apr-98 gecko(a)freecar.com wrote:
>
>What is bochs?

Stupid question... I found it... quite easily, really.
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From jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU Mon Apr 13 22:32:03 1998
From: jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Qt lib compile error
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:32:03 +1000
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hi, all

I'm sorry to ask sam question again, but this is last.
My question is how to compile the program with Qt library in SuSE.
I tried 

        cc -o hello -I$QTDIR/include -L$QTDIR/lib hello.c

then, I got this error message,

-----------------< error msg >------------------------------------
In file included from /usr/X11R6/lib/qt/include/qobjdefs.h:26,
                 from /usr/X11R6/lib/qt/include/qwindefs.h:27,
                 from /usr/X11R6/lib/qt/include/qwidget.h:26,
                 from /usr/X11R6/lib/qt/include/qapp.h:26,
                 from hello.c:7:
/usr/X11R6/lib/qt/include/qglobal.h:251: parse error before `FALSE'
/usr/X11R6/lib/qt/include/qglobal.h:251: warning: data definition has no
type or storage class
/usr/X11R6/lib/qt/include/qglobal.h:252: parse error before `TRUE'
/usr/X11R6/lib/qt/include/qglobal.h:252: warning: data definition has no
type or storage class
.
.
.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

hello.c is tutorial demo #1 program and $QTDIR is Qt's home directory.

Any help would be appreciated

Cheers
jae


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From dana@ntd.net Mon Apr 13 23:33:36 1998
From: dana@ntd.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] XV
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 18:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: <3532A0D0.918BF595@ntd.net>
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J.D.K. Chipps wrote:

> How do you install the "xdevel"?  Sounds like some of my problems.  Tried t=
o go
> to Yast, but it isn't a directory and wouldn't let me look at it.

Just fire up Yast and insert CD #1.  Then do a install package, go tothe X11
section and xdevel will be in there, X marks the spot and
then install selected package.  Worked just fine.

Dana


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From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Apr 13 23:43:22 1998
From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cross-compiler
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 01:43:22 +0200
Message-ID: <19980414014322.22848@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
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Hi,

On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 14:26 -0700, gecko(a)freecar.com wrote:

> I love the old MAN files.  It's so easy to get a hard copy of them.  These =
new
> info files, however, I find a PitA.  Anybody want to talk me through printi=
ng
> them?  Preferably in mass w/o having to step through each indiviual page of=
=20
> the topic I'm interested in...???

You can print a whole info file with
       =20
        info --subnodes  |lpr

Ciao
Stefan

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From jonathan@aracnet.net Tue Apr 14 00:14:01 1998
From: jonathan@aracnet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] WM
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:14:01 -0400
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On 11-Apr-98 Roy Keeley wrote:

Before I start; 

The automatic configuration of X config files is what sets SuSE apart!  I had
to hack deep into .fvwmrc many moons ago knowing slightly above nothing to get
an application on the menu.  I'm glad this is the biggest block you come up
against.

> In my case, what I did to get rid of Xeyes was go into
> ..fvwm2rc or .fvwm95rc in my HOME directory and # out the
> line that refers to
> Xeyes. It is in there at least two places, and there may be
> more, I cann't remember for sure now. I took the clock out
> also, as I didn't
> like that big round clock up there, but am still trying to
> figure out how they get the small digital clock in there.

It's called asclock (included with afterstep?  It's in the fvwmbuttons (or
GoodStuff or Wharf depending on your WM). 

>     You do the same things for the redundant clocks if you
> wish. Taking things out is easy. Just pound them out! Or #
> them out, BUT

Search for it and pound it out!

> putting something else in that will run can be a real
> learning experience! Ahhhh, but you are then a programer in
> Xwindows.......

Eek.. it takes more than that!  I'd love to be a programmer in X!  The most I
have done so far is bash scripting in an xterm and making the Tk "Hello"
button!  (OK I hacked TkRemind a bit to print out half-sheet calendars)


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From debarros@bicc.uni-bonn.de Tue Apr 14 13:59:26 1998
From: debarros@bicc.uni-bonn.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] CD-ROM IDE
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:59:26 +0000
Message-ID: <35336BBE.25D544EC@bicc.uni-bonn.de>
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Hi,

>Anybody can tell me how I can use my CD-ROM IDE to play CD-AUDIO from
>Linux. The aplications in SuSE 5.1 only works fine with CD-ROM SCSI.
>Where I can find an aplications that it work with the other kinds of
>CD-ROM units ?.

That's not truth, you can try xmcd, a really good tool. It can be
configured to be used with ATAPI cd-rom's as well. Take a look at the
README file and run configure.sh as root which is under the
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xmcd/config directory.

Greetings,

Jose Eduardo


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From jovator@arrakis.es Tue Apr 14 16:20:49 1998
From: jovator@arrakis.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Curses
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:20:49 +0200
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I try to do a program with the library "curses". Anybody can tell me how
I can compile it and how can I use the library?

Thanks.


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From jovator@arrakis.es Tue Apr 14 16:22:57 1998
From: jovator@arrakis.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] CD-ROM IDE
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:22:57 +0200
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Anybody can tell me how I can use my CD-ROM IDE to play CD-AUDIO from
Linux. The aplications in SuSE 5.1 only works fine with CD-ROM SCSI.
Where I can find an aplications that it work with the other kinds of
CD-ROM units ?.

Thanks


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From djb@redhat.com Tue Apr 14 18:11:31 1998
From: djb@redhat.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cross-compiler
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:11:31 -0400
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> Is it possible to fire up win95 in bochs and run borland? Try that.

Sure it is.  It'll probably take several *months* to compile a decent
sized app, though.  :-)

Bochs is still *really* slow...I mean *painfully* slow in many cases.
Kevin has some performance enhancements planned, but he's working on
other issues still...

--Donnie


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From gecko@freecar.com Tue Apr 14 18:20:50 1998
From: gecko@freecar.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cross-compiler
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:20:50 -0700
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On 14-Apr-98 Donnie Barnes wrote:
>Sure it is.  It'll probably take several *months* to compile a decent
>sized app, though.  :-)
>
>Bochs is still *really* slow...I mean *painfully* slow in many cases.
>Kevin has some performance enhancements planned, but he's working on
>other issues still...

It's worse then that.  There isn't an easy way to get to files that are outsi=
de
the disk images.  I have to share source with four other programers and link =
in
project libraries that sit on the network somewhere :(

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From djb@redhat.com Tue Apr 14 19:08:52 1998
From: djb@redhat.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cross-compiler
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:08:52 -0400
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> >Sure it is.  It'll probably take several *months* to compile a decent
> >sized app, though.  :-)
> >
> >Bochs is still *really* slow...I mean *painfully* slow in many cases.
> >Kevin has some performance enhancements planned, but he's working on
> >other issues still...
>=20
> It's worse then that.  There isn't an easy way to get to files that are out=
side
> the disk images.  I have to share source with four other programers and lin=
k in
> project libraries that sit on the network somewhere :(

Kevin's getting close to working on a network driver, though.  :-)

--Donnie


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From gecko@freecar.com Tue Apr 14 19:25:45 1998
From: gecko@freecar.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cross-compiler
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:25:45 -0700
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On 14-Apr-98 Donnie Barnes wrote:
>Kevin's getting close to working on a network driver, though.  :-)
>
Yes... I'll be watching it closely...

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From kar@webline.dk Tue Apr 14 21:27:23 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netatalk
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:27:23 +0200
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I'm forwarding this from a Danish user:

There is a patch for netatalk 1.4b2 that makes it handle AFP through
TCP/IP instead of Appletalk. It would be nice to see this in S.u.S.E.
<ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/asun/=
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From slk@grace.acm.rpi.edu Tue Apr 14 22:57:55 1998
From: slk@grace.acm.rpi.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netatalk
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:57:55 -0400
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On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

>=20
> I'm forwarding this from a Danish user:
>=20
> There is a patch for netatalk 1.4b2 that makes it handle AFP through
> TCP/IP instead of Appletalk. It would be nice to see this in S.u.S.E.
> <ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/asun/>>

I've been using a.sun patched appletalk in production at two sites
without any problems. I'd highly recommend it.

Simon Karpen	karpes(a)rpi.edu		slk(a)acm.rpi.edu
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From scurran@aracnet.net Wed Apr 15 15:12:45 1998
From: scurran@aracnet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP dialup failure
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:12:45 -0400
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I have been trying for more than two weeks to get my modem working under
suse.  It works under w95 and minicom but will not dial under any ppp
setup I try.
ppp-up
localip=0.0.0.0
remoteip=
device=dev/modem
pppflags="33600 modem debug defaultroute"
/urs/sbin/pppd lock connect \
    '/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/ppp.chat' \
    $device $pppflags $localip;$remoteip

ppp.chat
AT&F1   #as per my modems handbook
OK ATDTxxxxxxx,,xxxxxxxxxx
38400 \n
login: xxxxxx
Password: xxxxxxx

/etc/ppp/options

lock
defaultroute
noipdefault
modem
/dev/cua1
38400
crtscts
debug
passive
asyncmap 0

/etc/ppp/options.demand

lock
defaultroute
noipdefault
modem
/dev/cua1
38400
crtscts
debug
passive
asyncmap 0
ipcp-accept-local
ipcp-accept-remote
0.0.0.0:10.10.10.10
demand
connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/pppscript"

/etc/resolv.conf

earch aracnet.net
nameserver xx.xxx.x.x

When I punch in ppp-go the modem sits there and stare at me.  No dial
tone or anything.
The modem is a USRobitics Sportster Voice 33600 internal.

This is getting very frustrating to me.  I have tried the suggestions on
this help listing,  suse PPP: Modem does not dial support database sheet
and suggestions from a number of users, especially Zentara.  What should
I do next?

Thanks

Denis


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From gecko@freecar.com Wed Apr 15 15:56:46 1998
From: gecko@freecar.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP dialup failure
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:56:46 -0700
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Have you checked the /var/log/messages file for any "chat" error messages??? =

Maybe let us know the salient parts of that.

On 15-Apr-98 denis miller wrote:
>
>I have been trying for more than two weeks to get my modem working under
>suse.  It works under w95 and minicom but will not dial under any ppp
>When I punch in ppp-go the modem sits there and stare at me.  No dial
>tone or anything.
>The modem is a USRobitics Sportster Voice 33600 internal.
>
>This is getting very frustrating to me.  I have tried the suggestions on
>this help listing,  suse PPP: Modem does not dial support database sheet
>and suggestions from a number of users, especially Zentara.  What should
>I do next?
>
>Thanks
>
>Denis

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From mhtexcollins@ccms.net Wed Apr 15 16:32:55 1998
From: mhtexcollins@ccms.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] .fvwm2rc
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:32:55 -0500
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        I am figuring it out.  Thanks to the letter about pounding out
the xeyes etc.  I now knew that I was to go in and edit '.fvwm2rc file
and put what I thought I should be in and watch.  Going good now.  Now
Isn't that stupid,  Plus I have always been told to stay from config
files, so I do.    But sound is still eluding me.. I am only glad that I
have 2 weeks off to figure out how to hear something when I click the
mouse.  Works with tkdesk though.  Looking at other configurations and
the code helps immensely..
Anyone know the extreme numbers for sound.  All I have seen is 127

Thanks  immensely


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From jdkc@woptura.com Wed Apr 15 17:26:47 1998
From: jdkc@woptura.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP dialup failure
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:26:47 -0500
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denis miller wrote:

> I have been trying for more than two weeks to get my modem working under
> suse.  It works under w95 and minicom but will not dial under any ppp
> setup I try.
>

ezppp works for me with the identical modem.


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From netd@fastrans.net Wed Apr 15 17:29:08 1998
From: netd@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP dialup failure
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:29:08 -0400
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I've had problems with the ppp 2.2 code in the kernel for some time,
and since I've upgraded almost a year ago, to 2.3.x, I have had a much
more stable link.

So check out this ftp site ... some folks in Oz have reworked and
upgraded PPP ... I've found that with some of the bleeding edge dialup
stuff being used at some ISPs, one needs to upgrade the ppp code in the
kernel as well ...

I'd start with 2.3.0 , then migrate upwards ... each version offers
new features and in some cases breaks what worked in a previous release
...

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

ftp://cs.anu.edu.au/pub/software/ppp/>

 

Current directory is /pub/software/ppp

Up to higher level directory

  freebsd-old.tar.gz                            =20
34 Kb    Thu Oct 26 00:00:00 1995 Unix Tape Archive

  ppp-2.2.tar.Z                                =20
805 Kb    Tue Sep 12 00:00:00 1995 Unix Tape Archive

  ppp-2.2.tar.gz                               =20
526 Kb    Fri Aug 18 00:00:00 1995 Unix Tape Archive

  ppp-2.3.0.tar.gz                             =20
748 Kb    Thu May 22 00:00:00 1997 Unix Tape Archive

  ppp-2.3.1.tar.gz                             =20
752 Kb    Mon Jul 14 00:00:00 1997 Unix Tape Archive

  ppp-2.3.2.tar.gz                             =20
763 Kb    Thu Nov 27 06:50:00 1997 Unix Tape Archive

  ppp-2.3.3.tar.gz                             =20
763 Kb    Fri Dec 26 06:09:00 1997 Unix Tape Archive

  ppp-2.3.4.tar.gz                             =20
652 Kb    Thu Apr  2 12:06:00 1998 Unix Tape Archive

 

All you need to do is download, say the 2.3.0 release, unzip/untar
into, say /usr/src, and it creates a

version-named directory. In the file you'll see a linux directory,

=20

 

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root      =20
22365 Feb 11  1997 FAQ

lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root         =20
18 Feb 13 18:01 Makefile -> linux/Makefile.top

drwxr-xr-x   6 root     root       =20
1024 Nov  9 15:39 NeXT

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
6828 May 22  1997 README

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root      =20
10898 Apr 29  1997 README.MSCHAP80

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
1680 Apr 30  1997 README.NeXT

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
4285 May 22  1997 README.bsd

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
3460 May 22  1997 README.cbcp

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root      =20
37165 May 22  1997 README.linux

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
4590 Apr 28  1997 README.osf

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
1093 Jul  1  1996 README.sol2

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
1853 Sep 23  1996 README.sunos4

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root        =20
868 Apr 30  1997 README.svr4

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
2872 Sep 18  1996 README.ultrix

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
4206 May 22  1997 SETUP

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Dec 31 00:41 chat

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Nov  9 15:39 common

-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       =20
3165 Apr 30  1997 configure

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Nov  9 15:39 etc.ppp

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Nov  9 15:39 freebsd-2.0

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Nov  9 15:39 linux

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Nov  9 15:39 modules

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Nov  9 15:39 net

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Nov  9 15:39 netbsd-1.1

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Nov  9 15:39 netbsd-1.2

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Nov  9 15:39 osf1

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
2048 Dec 31 00:41 pppd

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Dec 31 00:41 pppstats

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Nov  9 15:39 scripts

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Nov  9 15:39 sunos4

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Nov  9 15:39 svr4

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root       =20
1024 Nov  9 15:39 ultrix

 

In the linux directory is an install script, kinstall.sh ... just
run it

 

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
1255 Aug 28  1996 Makefile.top

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root      =20
30395 Feb 26  1997 bsd_comp.c

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
4739 Jun 11  1996 if.h

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
3536 Nov 21  1995 if_arp.h

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
5793 Sep 26  1996 if_ppp.h

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
6303 Sep 18  1996 if_pppvar.h

-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       =20
8604 May 21  1997 kinstall.sh

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root        =20
168 Jun 11  1996 patch-include

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
6250 May  2  1997 ppp-comp.h

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root      =20
82870 May 22  1997 ppp.c

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root      =20
17893 May 21  1997 ppp_deflate.c

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
6137 May  2  1997 ppp_defs.h

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       =20
2521 Nov 16  1995 route.h

lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root         =20
16 Feb 13 18:01 zlib.c -> ../common/zlib.c

lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root         =20
16 Feb 13 18:01 zlib.h -> ../common/zlib.h

=20

 

Provided you have the Linux kernel source tree in /usr/src/linux,
this script will merge it's code into the tree - and it does it quite well
I might add ... and it renames older source to .old so you can un-merge
it if you need to ... (probably simpler to just blow the whole tree away
and re-untar the kernel source) ...

Then, once it's merged, all you need to do is compile your kernel
as you normally would and wah-lah - ppp support that has been upgraded.<=
TT>

Good Luck!

=20

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From rhumbert@avignon.pacwan.net Wed Apr 15 17:35:05 1998
From: rhumbert@avignon.pacwan.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP dialup failure
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:35:05 +0200
Message-ID: <98041519452400.00151@isis>
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Le Wed, 15 Apr 1998, vous avez écrit :

>When I punch in ppp-go the modem sits there and stare at me.  No dial
>tone or anything.
>The modem is a USRobitics Sportster Voice 33600 internal.
>
>This is getting very frustrating to me.  I have tried the suggestions on
>this help listing,  suse PPP: Modem does not dial support database sheet
>and suggestions from a number of users, especially Zentara.  What should
>I do next?

I've got the same modem as you and i had some problems with it cause it wasn't
well configurated. I'm not sure it's the same problem but as you, it was
functionning under minicom and wasn't dialling with my script for pppd. I fix
the problem with a :

etserial /dev/cua2 auto_irq skip_test autoconfig spd_vhi

In fact, i uncommented this line in the /sbin/init.d/serial script and just
added the "spd_vhi".

I also chose to use ezppp (and now kppp, really good :) ) instead of a direct
script for pppd, it's *really* more convenient.

Cheers

Regis

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From mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov Wed Apr 15 18:33:42 1998
From: mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NS communicator java crashes
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:33:42 -0400
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good day all ...

i just installed communicator 4.05 on my suse 5.1 laptop. whenever
communicator tries to run java it crashes with a buss error. i ran
the installer that came with it and set the MOZILLA_HOME environment
variable. has anyone else seen this problem?


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From gecko@freecar.com Wed Apr 15 19:01:27 1998
From: gecko@freecar.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NS communicator java crashes
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:01:27 -0700
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I've gotten that problem with 4.04... seems to only happen when I have color
hogs running at the same time...

On 15-Apr-98 Michael Galloway wrote:
>
>good day all ...
>
>i just installed communicator 4.05 on my suse 5.1 laptop. whenever
>communicator tries to run java it crashes with a buss error. i ran
>the installer that came with it and set the MOZILLA_HOME environment
>variable. has anyone else seen this problem?
>
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From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr 15 20:02:13 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NS communicator java crashes
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:02:13 -0500
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It says in the documentation for 4.05 that it is buggy.  Stick with 4.04
until they fix it.

Michael Galloway wrote:

> good day all ...
>
> i just installed communicator 4.05 on my suse 5.1 laptop. whenever
> communicator tries to run java it crashes with a buss error. i ran
> the installer that came with it and set the MOZILLA_HOME environment
> variable. has anyone else seen this problem?
>
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From mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov Wed Apr 15 20:33:18 1998
From: mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NS communicator java crashes
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:33:18 -0400
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indeed, i went a grabbed a copy of navigator 4.04, same problem. it gets
stranger yet. we were going to use the laptop for a demo, so i figured
i'd just run netscape on a remote workstation and display to the linux
box: same problem - crash when i hits java.

-- michael

Thus Spake Michael Lankton (satan(a)nfinity.com):
> 
> It says in the documentation for 4.05 that it is buggy.  Stick with 4.04
> until they fix it.

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From scurran@aracnet.net Wed Apr 15 21:16:25 1998
From: scurran@aracnet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] netscape 4.04
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:16:25 -0400
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i have installed 4.04 but i think i missed something.  In X Windows I
get ezppp running to connect to the internet and then start netscape.
It always gives me the message that it is unable to locate server www.
Can someone tell me what I need to correct in my installation.  I
followed the netscape installation instructions.

Denis.


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From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr 15 21:30:57 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NS communicator java crashes
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:30:57 -0500
Message-ID: <35352711.8DF9C311@nfinity.com>
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That is strange.  I have export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape in my
/etc/profile.  I have never, ever had a problem.  Java works fine in
netscape.  I don't know if perhaps there is a package you need installed (I
thought netscape's java handling was independent of any other lib).  Perhaps
Bodo or someone more qualified can offer input.  I have heard of people having
problems with 4.05, but 4.03 and 4.04 have been ideal citizens on my box.

Michael Galloway wrote:

> indeed, i went a grabbed a copy of navigator 4.04, same problem. it gets
> stranger yet. we were going to use the laptop for a demo, so i figured
> i'd just run netscape on a remote workstation and display to the linux
> box: same problem - crash when i hits java.
>
> -- michael
>
> Thus Spake Michael Lankton (satan(a)nfinity.com):
> >
> > It says in the documentation for 4.05 that it is buggy.  Stick with 4.04
> > until they fix it.
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From scurran@aracnet.net Wed Apr 15 21:40:44 1998
From: scurran@aracnet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:40:44 -0400
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Hi,
I finally got ppp going by using ezppp.  Not a bad program.
Thanks for all your help.  Much appreciated.  If you ever need someone
to fix a auto production line let me know! (There are some things that I can
fix on my own!)

Denis

zentara wrote:

> misc.word.corp wrote:
> >
> > I'm also an ezppp user, but I've been finding that I occasionally lose
> > write and/or execute permissions after using ezppp's "configuration"
> > utility to change modem init strings and the like.
> >
> > The files whose w/x permissions are affected are pppd and resolv.conf,
> > rendering ezppp useless until permissions are restored.
> >
> > Anybody have a similar problem? It's a small annoyance, but nonetheless
> > . . .
> >
>
> Hi,
> I think what happens is everytime you run YAST, it checks
> all the file permissions and changes them back to the
> secure setting.
> There is a way of telling Suseconfig what files not
> to change, by editing your /etc/permissions files.
>
> Hey, a bit of good news for all you EZPPP users,
> is that the author is working on a new version
> which will work from the command line also. Right now
> EZPPP is limited to X. It's on the authors web page.
>
> zentara
>
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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Thu Apr 16 02:27:32 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] netscape 4.04
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0400
Message-ID: <35356C94.B7BA019D@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil>
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Denis,

1) Are you able to ping other hosts?  Try "ping www.netscape.com"

If this works there is something screwed up in the netscape configuration. 
Success here means that you can resolve IP addresses from hostnames and
send and receive packets to and from remote hosts.  I don't fully
understand what your error is.  Are you able to browse?  Is this
just a startup error?   If its just a startup error then you
probably need to change your default homepage.  This is under EDIT
| PREFERENCES.

2) If  "ping www.netscape.com" doesn't work, try "ping 207.200.73.73"
(this is the IP address I got from the above ping)  If this works
but step one doesn't work you are not hitting a DNS server. 
I believe that S.u.S.E has you set that up in YAST.  If you don't
know the IP address of your DNS server contact you ISP.

3) If you cannot ping an IP address, run "ifconfig".  You should
get an output something like the following:  (In the ppp0 section
be sure there is an inet addr that makes sense.)

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback

          inet addr:127.0.0.1 
Bcast:127.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0

          UP BROADCAST
LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3584  Metric:1

          RX packets:1135
errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0

          TX packets:1135
errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0

ppp0      Link encap:Point-Point Protocol

          inet addr:206.133.1.34 
P-t-P:206.133.1.3  Mask:255.255.255.0

          UP POINTOPOINT
RUNNING  MTU:1500  Metric:1

          RX packets:30601
errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0

          TX packets:26801
errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0

4) Also run route.  This will tell you if you have a router configured. 
Mine looks like this:

/root# route

Kernel IP routing table

Destination     Gateway        
Genmask         Flags Metric Ref   
Use Iface

sdn-ts-001dcwas *              
255.255.255.255 UH    0      0       
0 ppp0

loopback        *              
255.0.0.0       U    
0      0       
4 lo

default         sdn-ts-001dcwas
0.0.0.0         UG   
0      0       25
ppp0

When I first set up S.u.S.E. I had a problem getting my default router
because I was not using the correct switch on the pppd command.  (I
was connecting by hand.)  I recommend that you do connect by hand
using minicom if you are having trouble either getting an IP address or
default router.  There is a How To on this.  I think it has PPP
in the title.  The man pages may help.

 

Here is my chat.ppp file.

/etc/ppp# cat ppp.chat

""ATZ

OK ATDT2028285300

ABORT "NO CARRIER"

ABORT BUSY

ABORT "NO DIALTONE"

ABORT ERROR

CONNECT ""

sername: TgFD7LL

ssword:

dcwash ppp

And my ppp-up script

/etc/ppp# cat ppp-up

#!/bin/sh

#

# /etc/ppp/ppp-up

#

# Aufbau einer PPP Verbindung

#

localip=0.0.0.0

remoteip=

device=/dev/modem

pppflags="38400 modem debug defaultroute"

/usr/sbin/pppd lock connect \

        '/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/ppp.chat'
\

        $device $pppflags $localip:$remoteip

 

If you run pppd by hand and need to get you defaultrouter from your
ISP be sure to use the "defaultroute" on pppd.

My "options" file only has the one work "lock" in it.

 

Let me know if you have any more questions.  I am kind of at a
disadvantage without more detail.

If I told you a bunch of stuff you already knew I apologize.

Steve

denis miller wrote:

i have installed 4.04 but i think i missed something. 
In X Windows I

get ezppp running to connect to the internet and then start netscape.

It always gives me the message that it is unable to locate server www.

Can someone tell me what I need to correct in my installation. 
I

followed the netscape installation instructions.

Denis.

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From jdkc@woptura.com Thu Apr 16 02:44:37 1998
From: jdkc@woptura.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] netscape 4.04
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:44:37 -0500
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denis miller wrote:

> i have installed 4.04 but i think i missed something.  In X Windows I
> get ezppp running to connect to the internet and then start netscape.
> It always gives me the message that it is unable to locate server www.
> Can someone tell me what I need to correct in my installation.  I
> followed the netscape installation instructions.
>
> Denis.
>

 Make sure that you are connected to your ISP  first, then start
Netscape.


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From deem@wdm.com Thu Apr 16 04:31:51 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NS communicator java crashes
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:31:51 -0800
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Michael Galloway  wrote:
> 
> good day all ...
> 
> i just installed communicator 4.05 on my suse 5.1 laptop. whenever
> communicator tries to run java it crashes with a buss error. i ran
> the installer that came with it and set the MOZILLA_HOME environment
> variable. has anyone else seen this problem?

4.05 works just fine. Put java40.jar in ~/.netscape/java/classes/
and it works A-OK.

W.D.McKinney (Dee) -=- deem(a)wdm.com
No claim to fame, just saved by Grace.

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From satan@nfinity.com Thu Apr 16 05:38:50 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] gcc
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:38:50 -0500
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Which gcc is 5.2 shipping with, 2.8.0 or 2.8.1?


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From owwkd@cybernix.com.sg Thu Apr 16 08:14:32 1998
From: owwkd@cybernix.com.sg
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] .fvwm2rc
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:14:32 +0800
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"startx" and run "rplayd".

On the pop up menu, Fvwm Manager --> Modules --> Audio.

Have fun!

On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, TEX wrote:

>=20
>         I am figuring it out.  Thanks to the letter about pounding out
> the xeyes etc.  I now knew that I was to go in and edit '.fvwm2rc file
> and put what I thought I should be in and watch.  Going good now.  Now
> Isn't that stupid,  Plus I have always been told to stay from config
> files, so I do.    But sound is still eluding me.. I am only glad that I
> have 2 weeks off to figure out how to hear something when I click the
> mouse.  Works with tkdesk though.  Looking at other configurations and
> the code helps immensely..
> Anyone know the extreme numbers for sound.  All I have seen is 127
>=20
> Thanks  immensely
>=20
> --
>=20
>  --
>  LINUX IS THE PATH.
>=20
>  TEX             http://www.ccms.net/=
~mhtexcollins/78704.htm>
>=20
>                       __
>                      / /    __  _  _  _  _ __  __
>                     / /__  / / / \// //_// \ \/ /
>                    /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/  /_/\_\
>                    ...for IQ's Greater than 95...
>=20
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From mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov Thu Apr 16 11:23:56 1998
From: mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NS communicator java crashes
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:23:56 -0400
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nope, does not work for me: bus error on java. 

-- michael
Thus Spake W.D.McKinney (deem(a)wdm.com):
> 
> 4.05 works just fine. Put java40.jar in ~/.netscape/java/classes/
> and it works A-OK.
> 
> 

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From mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov Thu Apr 16 12:10:01 1998
From: mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NS communicator java crashes
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:10:01 -0400
Message-ID: <19980416081001.21903@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov>
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i did some searching in the news archives of comp.os.linux.* and came across
a farily large number of people having problems with linux/NS/java/libc.=20
here is a description of the problem and a possible fix:

        http://me=
mbers.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html#detailed>

i've not had time to try the fix, but i plan to today sometime.=20
i'll post an email when i do.

-- michael

Thus Spake Michael Galloway (mgx(a)spruce.lsd.ornl.gov):
>=20
> good day all ...
>=20
> i just installed communicator 4.05 on my suse 5.1 laptop. whenever

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From chris123@netcom.ca Thu Apr 16 15:24:18 1998
From: chris123@netcom.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] LS 120 Support in SuSE 5.0
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:24:18 -0400
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Greetings

Need some info please. Tried to install my old vesrion of SuSE 5.0 on my
friends computer (this way he could have the manual, disc set ext....and
I could keep my 5.1 set) but ran into some problems. Could solve most of
them other than the LS 120 not being recognized by Yast install program
and the Xserver requirement (Rage Pro chip set) The Xserver was
addressed and solved. However when you partition the drive with Yast you
need to store the file system on a disc and reboot for the changes to
take effect. However the LS 120 is not recognized by Yast. I solved this
by removing the hard drive (luckily it was portable) and partitioned on
a 486 backup machine with a standard floppy. So here are my two
questions. Im assuming that the newest versions of Yast support the
LS120 drives, yes or no? Secondly is there a way to get the new version
of Yast integrated into the 5.0 install procedures. The only thing I can
think of is to transfer the latest version of Yast to the machine via a
zip drive but this is putting the horse befor the cart as a Linux OS
would not be installed yet. I would like to be able to recycle the older
versions of SuSE but this is complicated by hardware issues. By the way
my buddy lives some 500 km away and nows nothing about Linux. Hence I
need to do all this upfront. Yes I know 5.1 can so all this but this is
not the point. I am trying to figure out a way to recycle the not so
current versions. Similar issues will come up with 5.1 after 5.2
international version is released. Any ideas would be appreciated.

TIA

chris


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From bb@suse.com Thu Apr 16 17:52:48 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] gcc
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:52:48 -0700
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Michael Lankton wrote:
>=20
> Which gcc is 5.2 shipping with, 2.8.0 or 2.8.1?
>=20

It's 2.7.2.1=20

Ciao,
        BB


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From suse@wavenet.it Thu Apr 16 18:16:14 1998
From: suse@wavenet.it
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Kernel 2.0.33 Bug
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:16:14 +0200
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They told me that kernel 2.0.33 has a dangerous security bug that allows
remote users to crash own' s machine.
Where do I find a patch? How do I install it?
Are there any special instructions for Suse users?
I have Suse 5.1 and kernel directory is:
/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/
Is it a standard kernel or it was modified by Suse?

Thanks for your help.

Bye.


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From gecko@freecar.com Thu Apr 16 18:42:35 1998
From: gecko@freecar.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Kernel 2.0.33 Bug
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:42:35 -0700
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If there is a bug... and fix... it'll show up here   http://www.linuxhq.com>

I found a 2.0.34pre5 patch here: http://linux.dialnet.net/LMP/>  but it doesn't
look like it's ready for release yet...

On 16-Apr-98 Simone Castellaneta wrote:
>
>They told me that kernel 2.0.33 has a dangerous security bug that allows
>remote users to crash own' s machine.
>Where do I find a patch? How do I install it?
>Are there any special instructions for Suse users?
>I have Suse 5.1 and kernel directory is:
>/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/
>Is it a standard kernel or it was modified by Suse?
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>Bye.
>
>
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From satan@nfinity.com Thu Apr 16 19:22:07 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] gcc
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:22:07 -0500
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2.8.0 has been out for quite some time.  Are there issues with the new
gcc's that prompted the maintainers of SuSE to stick with 2.7.2.1?

Bodo Bauer wrote:

> Michael Lankton wrote:
> >
> > Which gcc is 5.2 shipping with, 2.8.0 or 2.8.1?
> >
>
> It's 2.7.2.1
>
> Ciao,
>         BB
>
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From bb@suse.com Thu Apr 16 20:03:51 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] gcc
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:03:51 -0700
Message-ID: <35366427.7AEEC797@suse.com>
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Michael Lankton wrote:
>=20
> 2.8.0 has been out for quite some time.  Are there issues with the new
> gcc's that prompted the maintainers of SuSE to stick with 2.7.2.1?

Look at=20
        -> http://www.suse.de=
/Support/sdb_e/why-not-52.html>

[...]
GCC 2.8.x=20
      We plan the update only for S.u.S.E. Linux 6.0. Moreover GCC 2.8.x is u=
nable
      to compile the Linux kernel correctly. Probably egcs 1.1.x will
      become the standard compiler of S.u.S.E. Linux 6.0 instead of gcc 2.8.x=
 .=20
[...]

Ciao,
        BB

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From kar@webline.dk Thu Apr 16 20:15:38 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Mousepad
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:15:38 +0200
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I have a S.u.S.E. Mousepad. But what in the world does it look like?
What's the motive?


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From kar@webline.dk Thu Apr 16 20:18:42 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] LILO
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:18:42 +0200
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Does S.u.S.E. use anoother version of LILO than RedHat? The reason I
ask is that I installed RedHat on a IBM Thinkpad 760XL, no problem. But
then I would try S.u.S.E. 5.1, and then LILO only get as far as 'L' and
then hangs. I don't know what that implies (except it's a hardware
problem). But when LILO from RHL 5.0 works, why not LILO from S.u.S.E.
5.1?

Now I start it through DOS and loadlin, works OK, but still...


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From kar@webline.dk Thu Apr 16 20:20:39 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Bind
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:20:39 +0200
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Why does everybody still use bind 4.9.xx, why not bind 8.0?

1. It's untested?
2. It's dificult to migrate? Why did the format of the config files
change?
3. There's no real incentive? Meaning, what's new in 8.0?
4. Another reason?


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From gdb@freecar.com Thu Apr 16 20:50:47 1998
From: gdb@freecar.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] LILO
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:50:47 -0700
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The only times I got that was when I was trying to boot off of a partition th=
at
has more than 1024 cylinders.... It happened on both Red-hat and SuSE... to m=
e..

On 16-Apr-98 Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
>
>Does S.u.S.E. use anoother version of LILO than RedHat? The reason I
>ask is that I installed RedHat on a IBM Thinkpad 760XL, no problem. But
>then I would try S.u.S.E. 5.1, and then LILO only get as far as 'L' and
>then hangs. I don't know what that implies (except it's a hardware
>problem). But when LILO from RHL 5.0 works, why not LILO from S.u.S.E.
>5.1?
>
>Now I start it through DOS and loadlin, works OK, but still...
>
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From bb@suse.com Thu Apr 16 20:51:00 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Mousepad
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:51:00 -0700
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Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
>=20
> I have a S.u.S.E. Mousepad. But what in the world does it look like?
> What's the motive?
>=20
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It's one of our CD covers, I think the on of the 5.0. It's some kind
of Enriques surface, but please don't ask me about details, the
formula to compute this image it pretty complicated...

Ciao,
        BB

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From bb@suse.com Thu Apr 16 20:51:51 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] LILO
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:51:51 -0700
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Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
>=20
> Does S.u.S.E. use anoother version of LILO than RedHat? The reason I
> ask is that I installed RedHat on a IBM Thinkpad 760XL, no problem. But
> then I would try S.u.S.E. 5.1, and then LILO only get as far as 'L' and
> then hangs. I don't know what that implies (except it's a hardware
> problem). But when LILO from RHL 5.0 works, why not LILO from S.u.S.E.
> 5.1?

We have a different version of LILO. Remove the 'linear' flaf in
the LILO configuration and it should work....

Ciao,
        BB


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From bb@suse.com Thu Apr 16 20:53:27 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Bind
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:53:27 -0700
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Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
>=20
> Why does everybody still use bind 4.9.xx, why not bind 8.0?
>

We use bind 8 :)

> 1. It's untested?
> 2. It's dificult to migrate? Why did the format of the config files
> change?
> 3. There's no real incentive? Meaning, what's new in 8.0?
> 4. Another reason?

It runs pretty good, but it has a different syntax for the main=20
configuration file. You can find bind8 on our CDs in the=20
'unsorted' directory.

Ciao,
        BB

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From kar@webline.dk Thu Apr 16 21:37:13 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] LILO
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:37:13 +0200
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> We have a different version of LILO. Remove the 'linear' flaf in
> the LILO configuration and it should work....

Thanks, I will try that right away. I thoght that Linear was there for
compatibility reasons, so I didn't even try...


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From kar@webline.dk Thu Apr 16 21:38:05 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Mousepad
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:38:05 +0200
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> It's one of our CD covers, I think the on of the 5.0. It's some kind
> of Enriques surface, but please don't ask me about details, the
> formula to compute this image it pretty complicated...

But perhaps you could tell me what an Enriques surface is?


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From adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com Thu Apr 16 21:48:06 1998
From: adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Bind
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:48:06 -0400
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On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 10:20:39PM +0200, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
> Why does everybody still use bind 4.9.xx, why not bind 8.0?
> 
> 1. It's untested?

        If you go to the web site they tell you that you should use 8.1.1

> 2. It's dificult to migrate? Why did the format of the config files
> change?

        Yes the configuration file is different, but you can change logging 
levels for each DNS record and other things that I can not remember now. 

> 3. There's no real incentive? Meaning, what's new in 8.0?
> 4. Another reason?

        There will be encryption algorthms for bind 8.1.1 so that you 
can have your secondarys verify themselves before the primary will transfer
the record info to them.  And for the really parnoid you can have only 
specified DNS servers connect with yours by using the encryption; the 
encryption stuff is not done yet :(

I would say that the configuration file is why most people do not convert.
All of my new DNS servers, although they are only caching, run 8.1.1; I 
have not converted Our main server because of the time I would have to 
invest is rather large and I have other things that I HAVE to do first.


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From mhtexcollins@ccms.net Thu Apr 16 22:12:43 1998
From: mhtexcollins@ccms.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] .fvwm2rc
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:12:43 -0500
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Thank you so much.  I had to alter the path to find the sounds, But now
she works just fine..  You do not happen to know where this came from,
an I am making up my own help list for my friends here..Thanks again.

Ow W K Danny wrote:
>=20
> "startx" and run "rplayd".
>=20
> On the pop up menu, Fvwm Manager --> Modules --> Audio.
>=20
> Have fun!
=20

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From gdb@freecar.com Thu Apr 16 23:34:39 1998
From: gdb@freecar.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] shoutdown ?
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:34:39 -0700
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CTRL-ALT-DEL

On 17-Apr-98 Jaeha Lee wrote:
>
>hi,
>
>What is the best way to shutdown Linux by non-root user ?
>
>Cheers
>jae
>
>
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From gdb@freecar.com Thu Apr 16 23:36:32 1998
From: gdb@freecar.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] sendmail
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:36:32 -0700
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/usr/sbin/sendmail   or put a link... I think it would be...

ln -s /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/bin/smail

and then use smail (or some other name)

On 17-Apr-98 Jaeha Lee wrote:
>
>hi,
>
>Another non-root user question.
>How to send mail in queue by non-root user ?
>I do "sendmail -q" as root, but it's not convinent for me, because I
>connect internet as non-root user.
>
>Cheers
>jae
>
>
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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Thu Apr 16 23:55:50 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] sendmail
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:55:50 -0700
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Hello Jae,

Perhaps I am not an expert at such things, but it seems you can run
sendmail -q as non-root, it's just not on your path.

Were you hoping sendmail would process the queues of all users?  

Try using /usr/sbin/sendmail -q and see if this works for you.
Personally I would want to put this in the same script that does the
dialup, so it happens automatically without me worrying about it.

-josh

> Another non-root user question.
> How to send mail in queue by non-root user ?
> I do "sendmail -q" as root, but it's not convinent for me, because I
> connect internet as non-root user.
> 
> Cheers
> jae
> 
> 
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From jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU Fri Apr 17 00:01:55 1998
From: jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] LILO
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:01:55 +1000
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hi,

I've seen same thing when I installed SuSE first time.  I did select "not
install LILO" from YaST menu, because I already had LILO from installing
RedHat5.0.  I solved this problem by installing LILO again from YaST.  You
need boot with SuSE booting disk and just install LILO. You don't have to
install whole package again.

I hope this help 

Cheers
jae

On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

> 
> Does S.u.S.E. use anoother version of LILO than RedHat? The reason I
> ask is that I installed RedHat on a IBM Thinkpad 760XL, no problem. But
> then I would try S.u.S.E. 5.1, and then LILO only get as far as 'L' and
> then hangs. I don't know what that implies (except it's a hardware
> problem). But when LILO from RHL 5.0 works, why not LILO from S.u.S.E.
> 5.1?
> 
> Now I start it through DOS and loadlin, works OK, but still...
> 
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From jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU Fri Apr 17 00:10:23 1998
From: jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] shoutdown ?
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:10:23 +1000
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hi,

What is the best way to shutdown Linux by non-root user ?

Cheers
jae


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From jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU Fri Apr 17 00:14:18 1998
From: jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] sendmail
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:14:18 +1000
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hi,

Another non-root user question.
How to send mail in queue by non-root user ?
I do "sendmail -q" as root, but it's not convinent for me, because I
connect internet as non-root user.

Cheers
jae


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From mskinner@verio.net Fri Apr 17 00:16:15 1998
From: mskinner@verio.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Suse as Firewall
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:16:15 -0700
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Has any setup Suse on a pc to just be a firewall?
one ethernet in and one ethernet out?
or is there a faq for firewalling out there..
thanks
Mark Skinner


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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Fri Apr 17 00:31:54 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Matrox Millenium II & XF86Setup
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:31:54 -0400
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I have a Matrox Millenium II and a ViewSonic G810.  Under NT I can set
my display to 70Hz refresh, 24-bit color, and 1600 x 1200.  Using
XF86Setup, when I try to get the card to run 1600 X 1200 at 60Hz and
24-bpp I get ripples of errant pixels running through the test pattern.
I can see no way to get this to 70 Hz.  Is this a limitation of the
driver for this card?  Is there a better driver?

Steve


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From gecko@benham.net Fri Apr 17 00:32:56 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Suse as Firewall
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:32:56 -0700
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Look in either /usr/docs/howto  or /usr/docs/howto/mini

On 17-Apr-98 Mark Skinner wrote:
>
>Has any setup Suse on a pc to just be a firewall?
>one ethernet in and one ethernet out?
>or is there a faq for firewalling out there..
>thanks
>Mark Skinner
>
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From deem@wdm.com Fri Apr 17 00:45:04 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Matrox Millenium II & XF86Setup
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:45:04 -0800
Message-ID: <199804170045.QAA00791@wdm.com>
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"Steven T. Hatton"  wrote:
>=20
> I have a Matrox Millenium II and a ViewSonic G810.  Under NT I can set
> my display to 70Hz refresh, 24-bit color, and 1600 x 1200.  Using
> XF86Setup, when I try to get the card to run 1600 X 1200 at 60Hz and
> 24-bpp I get ripples of errant pixels running through the test pattern.
> I can see no way to get this to 70 Hz.  Is this a limitation of the
> driver for this card?  Is there a better driver?
>=20
> Steve

Hi Steve,

I run Accelerated-X 3.1 on my Millenium I w/8megs and my=20
ViewSonic G800 at 1600x1200 with the following:

//
// Accelerated-X 3.1, Build 3100
//
// Xaccel.ini created at Wed Apr 15 21:15:24 1998
//

[FONTPATH]
    "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/AcceleratedX/fonts/misc/",
    "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/",
    "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/",
    "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/",
    "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont",
    "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont";

[RGBPATH]
    "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/AcceleratedX/etc/Xrgb";

[SETTINGS]
    SnfFormat =3D ISC;

[KEYBOARD]
    Layout =3D "en_US.xkm";

[MOUSE]
    Device   =3D "/dev/mouse";
    Protocol =3D PS/2;
    ChordMiddle =3D YES;

[SCREEN]
    Board   =3D "matrox/mga-mil8h.xqa";
    Monitor =3D "sfreq/s1600-60.vda";
    Depth   =3D 24;
    EnergyStar =3D YES;

    [RESOLUTIONS]
        1600x1200;
----------------------------------------------------

I have Accelerated-X 4.1 also and it has full support=20
for the Millenium II. See http://www.xig.com>

Best Regards
-Dee

W.D.McKinney (Dee) -=3D- deem(a)wdm.com
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From bb@suse.com Fri Apr 17 00:55:46 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Suse as Firewall
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:55:46 -0700
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The Gecko wrote:
>=20
> Look in either /usr/docs/howto  or /usr/docs/howto/mini
>=20

There is a firewall package included on our CDs. I'm currently
working on a english version of our firewall howto.

See http://www.suse.com/~bb/fw-howto/> for the first=
 draft. It's
almost ready, but still needs spellchecking...

Ciao,
        BB

> >
> >Has any setup Suse on a pc to just be a firewall?
> >one ethernet in and one ethernet out?
> >or is there a faq for firewalling out there..
> >thanks
> >Mark Skinner
> >
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From jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu Fri Apr 17 01:18:41 1998
From: jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Matrox Millenium II & XF86Setup
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:18:41 -0400
Message-ID: <199804170118.VAA30126@ox.slug.louisville.edu>
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>=20
> I have a Matrox Millenium II and a ViewSonic G810.  Under NT I can set
> my display to 70Hz refresh, 24-bit color, and 1600 x 1200.  Using
> XF86Setup, when I try to get the card to run 1600 X 1200 at 60Hz and
> 24-bpp I get ripples of errant pixels running through the test pattern.
> I can see no way to get this to 70 Hz.  Is this a limitation of the
> driver for this card?  Is there a better driver?
>=20
> Steve

        Dude,  I had similar problems running 24bpp with my trident 9685 prov=
idia with 4megs...  I've been told that the acceleeration for the card (drive=
r issues) haven't been completely functional with that color depth...
        If you know anything about fixes for this, let me know...  I don't th=
ink it's been updated since SuSE has helped with the Xservers...

                                        Jonathan

>=20
> --
> "Alles Vergaengliche
> Ist nur ein Gleichniss"
> -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie.
>=20
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From owwkd@cybernix.com.sg Fri Apr 17 01:42:21 1998
From: owwkd@cybernix.com.sg
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] XFree86 support for CLD 7543 chipset?
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:42:21 +0800
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Hi,

Is there anyone get Cirrus Logic Chipset "CLD 7543" working with XFree86? 
What happened is when X is killed, the screen turns blank and no vc
either. 

Any help will be appreciated.

Danny


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From kar@webline.dk Fri Apr 17 04:39:37 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Bind
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:39:37 +0200
Message-ID: <199804170439.GAA14115@bohr.webline.dk>
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> I would say that the configuration file is why most people do not convert.
> All of my new DNS servers, although they are only caching, run 8.1.1; I 
> have not converted Our main server because of the time I would have to 
> invest is rather large and I have other things that I HAVE to do first.

But I read somewhere that there is a Perl based conversion tool. Did
you know that? Perhaps the tool can only handle the simple cases, and
give up over your files...?


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From adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com Fri Apr 17 06:02:55 1998
From: adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Suse as Firewall
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:02:55 -0400
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On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 05:16:15PM -0700, Mark Skinner wrote:
> Has any setup Suse on a pc to just be a firewall?
> one ethernet in and one ethernet out?
> or is there a faq for firewalling out there..

There is a Firewall-HOWTO on sunsite (and alot of other places)

        http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/>


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From adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com Fri Apr 17 06:10:54 1998
From: adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Bind
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:10:54 -0400
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On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 06:39:37AM +0200, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
> But I read somewhere that there is a Perl based conversion tool. Did
> you know that? Perhaps the tool can only handle the simple cases, and
> give up over your files...?

Yes I knew about the conversion tool but I need to spend time reading the 
docs because I will have to know what is going on so that I can tell 
other people in my office.  I want to know my options before I put this 
on a production DNS server.

But thanks, the bind web page is where all the docs are I think.


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From satan@nfinity.com Fri Apr 17 06:33:31 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] 2.0.33 frag patch
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:33:31 -0500
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Excuse me if this has been posted and I missed it.  It would behoove you
to apply this patch in /usr/src/linux/net/ipv4 if you are using 2.0.33,
especially if you irc.

--- ip_fragment.c.old	Thu Apr 16 12:25:34 1998
+++ ip_fragment.c	Thu Apr 16 12:29:02 1998
@@ -375,7 +375,7 @@
         fp =3D qp->fragments;
         while(fp !=3D NULL)
         {
-		if (fp->len < 0 || count+fp->len > skb->len)
+		if (fp->len < 0 || fp->offset+qp->ihlen+fp->len > skb->len)
                 {
                         NETDEBUG(printk("Invalid fragment list: Fragment ove=
r size.\n"));
                         ip_free(qp);

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From sandman@aye.net Fri Apr 17 07:08:16 1998
From: sandman@aye.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] LILO
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:08:16 -0400
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On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

> 
> Does S.u.S.E. use anoother version of LILO than RedHat? The reason I
> ask is that I installed RedHat on a IBM Thinkpad 760XL, no problem. But
> then I would try S.u.S.E. 5.1, and then LILO only get as far as 'L' and
> then hangs. I don't know what that implies (except it's a hardware
> problem). But when LILO from RHL 5.0 works, why not LILO from S.u.S.E.
> 5.1?
> 
> Now I start it through DOS and loadlin, works OK, but still...
> 

S.u.S.E.  uses the same lilo as Red Hat (possibly a differnt version from
release to release) but this *Should* make no difference. Checnk out the
Lilo howto and you'll find that lilo as it load tells you where it is via
the number of letters you see in the word lilo...

I can't remember the details, but l means on thing, li another lil a third
and lilo means the loader executed correctly. 

In the past, if I had just an L from lili at the command com, I believe
there were problems with the hard drive geometry, I'd start there first.

best of luck

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From thko@wtal.de Fri Apr 17 07:20:40 1998
From: thko@wtal.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Suse as Firewall
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:20:40 +0200
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Hello,

> Has any setup Suse on a pc to just be a firewall?
> one ethernet in and one ethernet out?
> or is there a faq for firewalling out there..

You might take a look at "<=
A HREF=3D"http://www.xos.nl/linux/ipfwadm/paperhttp://www.xos.nl/linux/i=
pfwadm/paper>" ...

Thomas


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From srr03@tid.es Fri Apr 17 07:58:09 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] LILO
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:58:09 +0200
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I have a problem about that. I am trying to put 'vmlinuz' in '/', but I can't
because yast says my partition has more than 1024 cilynders. But it is only 8=
00Mb
large. Is it possible?
Did I do something wrong? It is a 486DX 33.
Bye

gdb(a)freecar.com wrote:

> The only times I got that was when I was trying to boot off of a partition =
that
> has more than 1024 cylinders.... It happened on both Red-hat and SuSE... to=
 me..
>
> On 16-Apr-98 Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
> >
> >Does S.u.S.E. use anoother version of LILO than RedHat? The reason I
> >ask is that I installed RedHat on a IBM Thinkpad 760XL, no problem. But
> >then I would try S.u.S.E. 5.1, and then LILO only get as far as 'L' and
> >then hangs. I don't know what that implies (except it's a hardware
> >problem). But when LILO from RHL 5.0 works, why not LILO from S.u.S.E.
> >5.1?
> >


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From JB@hilchner.de Fri Apr 17 09:02:04 1998
From: JB@hilchner.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: AW: [S.u.S.E. Linux] shoutdown ?
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:02:04 +0200
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> hi,
> 
hi,

> What is the best way to shutdown Linux by non-root user ?
> 
edit the /etc/inittab file. There's an entry to manage the shutdown with

STRG+ALT+DEL ! Try this, IMO it is the best way.

> Cheers
> jae
> 
yours joerg

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From mantel@suse.de Fri Apr 17 10:08:35 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: LS 120 Support in SuSE 5.0
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:08:35 +0200
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Hi,

On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Chris Herrnberger wrote:

[...]

> a 486 backup machine with a standard floppy. So here are my two
> questions. Im assuming that the newest versions of Yast support the
> LS120 drives, yes or no? Secondly is there a way to get the new version

The newest kernels support the LS120, but YaST doesn't yet. It will need
some major changes as the LS120 is accessed in a different way than
"normal" floppies (it is treated as a removable harddisk /dev/hd{a,b,c,d}
instead of /dev/fd0).
But you can install Linux on such a machine. Whenever YaST asks for a
floppy, just say "no". This doesn't do any harm, you just will have to
type some information a second time if you reboot during the installation.
Also you should not try to create a bootdisk from YaST as this will fail
too (creating a bootdisk is not that important anymore as you can boot
your installed system using the installation bootdisk).

There might be one problem if your system has a SCSI adapter or another
component installed that needs a driver module to be loaded by linuxrc: 
Linuxrc also doesn't yet know how to handle the LS120, so it is unable to
load the driver modules from disk. But there's an easy workaround for that
problem: Write the file /suse/images/boot from CD#1 to disk (using
rawrite.exe for example). This bootimage is used when booting from CD.
Therefore it contains a large initrd that contains all drivers. So there
is no need for linuxrc to load additional drivers from floppy. But please
note that you should have at least 8MB of RAM in order to use this boot
image. 

> of Yast integrated into the 5.0 install procedures. The only thing I can
> think of is to transfer the latest version of Yast to the machine via a
> zip drive but this is putting the horse befor the cart as a Linux OS
> would not be installed yet. I would like to be able to recycle the older
> versions of SuSE but this is complicated by hardware issues. By the way
> my buddy lives some 500 km away and nows nothing about Linux. Hence I
> need to do all this upfront. Yes I know 5.1 can so all this but this is
> not the point. I am trying to figure out a way to recycle the not so
> current versions. Similar issues will come up with 5.1 after 5.2
> international version is released. Any ideas would be appreciated.
> 
> TIA
> 
> chris

I hope this answers your questions or makes them at least obsolete ;-)

    Hubert


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From mantel@suse.de Fri Apr 17 10:11:40 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: LILO
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:11:40 +0200
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Hi,

On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Bodo Bauer wrote:

> Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
> > 
> > Does S.u.S.E. use anoother version of LILO than RedHat? The reason I
> > ask is that I installed RedHat on a IBM Thinkpad 760XL, no problem. But
> > then I would try S.u.S.E. 5.1, and then LILO only get as far as 'L' and
> > then hangs. I don't know what that implies (except it's a hardware
> > problem). But when LILO from RHL 5.0 works, why not LILO from S.u.S.E.
> > 5.1?
> 
> We have a different version of LILO. Remove the 'linear' flaf in
> the LILO configuration and it should work....

Not quite ;-) S.u.S.E. 5.1/5.2 and RedHat 5.0 both use LILO 20. Only the
default configuration differs. We have already switched back to "linear"
defaulting to "off" as meanwhile this option leads to more problems than
it does solve.

> Ciao,
> 	BB

    Hubert


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From mantel@suse.de Fri Apr 17 11:00:08 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Mousepad
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:00:08 +0200
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Hi,

On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

> > It's one of our CD covers, I think the on of the 5.0. It's some kind
> > of Enriques surface, but please don't ask me about details, the
> > formula to compute this image it pretty complicated...
>=20
> But perhaps you could tell me what an Enriques surface is?

It is a special family of algebraic surfaces studied by Federigo Enriques.=20
A simple algebraic surface for example are all points that satisfy the
equation x=C2=B2+y=C2=B2+z=C2=B2-1=3D0, which is a sphere with radius 1 and c=
enter at
origin. Enriques surfaces are something "similar", but the formula is
somewhat more complex ;-) In fact, you cannot see an Enriques surface
itself, but only some model of it. You can find details in the preface of
our handbook if you are interested. It is nontrivial to compute these
surfaces. The program that computes the surfaces is on the CD. It's called
"surf".=20

    Hubert

PS: Have a look at http=
://www.mi.uni-erlangen.de/~endrass/en/page.html>
    Stephan Endrass, a good friend of mine, is the author of "surf".
    There are very beautiful pictures on this site (go to the "parameter
    map"). Also, the animation is worth watching.
PPS: Want some challenge? Find the formula that gives you a torus ;-)


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From chris123@netcom.ca Fri Apr 17 14:38:04 1998
From: chris123@netcom.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: LS 120 Support in SuSE 5.0
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:38:04 -0400
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Got it Hubert, thanks. Obselecence is good.

Hubert Mantel wrote:  I hope this answers your questions or makes them at
least obsolete ;-)


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From brauki@cww.de Fri Apr 17 15:08:45 1998
From: brauki@cww.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] shoutdown ?
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:08:45 +0200
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gdb(a)freecar.com wrote:
> 
> CTRL-ALT-DEL

Hey, this is _not_ windooze!! ;-)

Truly, it works fine. Unless you have to find the right mioment to
switch off, otherwise it goes back to linux. If you want a "proper" way
look for "sudoers". The manpages examples tell most of it.

> 
> On 17-Apr-98 Jaeha Lee wrote:
> >
> >hi,
> >
> >What is the best way to shutdown Linux by non-root user ?
> >
> >Cheers
> >jae
> >
> >
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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Fri Apr 17 15:24:54 1998
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] DOSEMU/CDROM
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:24:54 +0200
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Hi all;

I've been working on getting Dosemu working. For the most part it does
fine. But now I'm trying to get to my cd. It should be "E:", but when I
run dos from Linux root I get this error message:

CD-ROM device driver MTMCDAE Version 01.16

# Installed CD-ROM Drive : 1
# Stock Buffer Memory (Sector) : 20
# Installed DMA channel : CH5
# Installed IRQ channel : CH10

CD-ROM is not detected, driver not loaded.
------------------------------
After this dosemu runs fine but does not let me get to E:. 

I have this line in my dosemu Autoexec.bat:

"d:\c_dos\dos\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:10"

And this line is in my dosemu config.sys:
"Device=d:\c_dos\dev\mtmcdae.sys /d:mscd001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:20 /T:5
/I:10"

I can read my cd when I mount it under Linux and then go to it as
d:/cdrom. 

Any ideas?

THANKS

JIM

-----------------------------------------
Jim Hatridge
Germany 
hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de

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From mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov Fri Apr 17 17:05:47 1998
From: mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NS communicator java crashes
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:05:47 -0400
Message-ID: <19980417130547.63052@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov>
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FWIW ...

i ran the fix listed at the url below this morning. no good, still=20
get bus error crash.

-- michael

Thus Spake Michael Galloway (mgx(a)spruce.lsd.ornl.gov):
>=20
> i did some searching in the news archives of comp.os.linux.* and came across
> a farily large number of people having problems with linux/NS/java/libc.=20
> here is a description of the problem and a possible fix:
>=20
> 	http://members=
.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html#detailed>
>=20
> i've not had time to try the fix, but i plan to today sometime.=20
> i'll post an email when i do.
>=20

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From jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu Fri Apr 17 18:49:31 1998
From: jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NS communicator java crashes
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:49:31 -0400
Message-ID: <199804171849.OAA04309@ox.slug.louisville.edu>
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>=20
> FWIW ...
>=20
> i ran the fix listed at the url below this morning. no good, still=20
> get bus error crash.
>=20
> -- michael
>=20
> Thus Spake Michael Galloway (mgx(a)spruce.lsd.ornl.gov):
> >=20
> > i did some searching in the news archives of comp.os.linux.* and came acr=
oss
> > a farily large number of people having problems with linux/NS/java/libc. =

> > here is a description of the problem and a possible fix:

        I believe that out of the box libc version with SuSE 5.1 and previous=
 have memory management problems...

> >=20
> > 	http://membe=
rs.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html#detailed>
> >=20
> > i've not had time to try the fix, but i plan to today sometime.=20
> > i'll post an email when i do.
> >=20
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        I looked at SuSE's site last night, and I didn't see and update or up=
grade in their ftp directory...

                                                Jonathan

--=20
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         =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

                           Jonathan Paul Cowherd
                        jpcowh01(a)slug.louisville.edu
                  http://www.slug.louisville.=
edu/~jpcowh01>

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From bb@suse.com Fri Apr 17 18:50:06 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] LILO
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:50:06 -0700
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William J. Sandman wrote:
>=20
> On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
>=20
> >
> > Does S.u.S.E. use anoother version of LILO than RedHat? The reason I
> > ask is that I installed RedHat on a IBM Thinkpad 760XL, no problem. But
> > then I would try S.u.S.E. 5.1, and then LILO only get as far as 'L' and
> > then hangs. I don't know what that implies (except it's a hardware
> > problem). But when LILO from RHL 5.0 works, why not LILO from S.u.S.E.
> > 5.1?
> >
> > Now I start it through DOS and loadlin, works OK, but still...
> >
>=20
> S.u.S.E.  uses the same lilo as Red Hat (possibly a differnt version from
> release to release) but this *Should* make no difference. Checnk out the

Unfortunatly it makes a difference. We are using version 20, which treats
the 'linear' paramemeter in a different way. So sometimes it works with=20
RH but it doesn't with S.u.S.E. However removing 'linear' helps in most
cases.

Ciao,
        BB


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From gecko@benham.net Fri Apr 17 20:44:14 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] LILO
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:44:14 -0700
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Nope... some 800Mb hardrives have more than 1024 cylinders.... I boot my
vmlinuz (actually, zImage) off of /usr which on a different harddrive from my
/
=20
On 17-Apr-98 Santiago Rodriguez wrote:
>
>I have a problem about that. I am trying to put 'vmlinuz' in '/', but I can't
>because yast says my partition has more than 1024 cilynders. But it is only
>800Mb
>large. Is it possible?
>Did I do something wrong? It is a 486DX 33.
>Bye
>
>gdb(a)freecar.com wrote:
>
>> The only times I got that was when I was trying to boot off of a partition
>that
>> has more than 1024 cylinders.... It happened on both Red-hat and SuSE... to
>me..
>>
>> On 16-Apr-98 Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
>> >
>> >Does S.u.S.E. use anoother version of LILO than RedHat? The reason I
>> >ask is that I installed RedHat on a IBM Thinkpad 760XL, no problem. But
>> >then I would try S.u.S.E. 5.1, and then LILO only get as far as 'L' and
>> >then hangs. I don't know what that implies (except it's a hardware
>> >problem). But when LILO from RHL 5.0 works, why not LILO from S.u.S.E.
>> >5.1?
>> >
>
>
>
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From jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU Fri Apr 17 21:35:44 1998
From: jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] sendmail
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:35:44 +1000
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hi,

Thanks for your reply.

I didn't know that sendmail can be run by non-root that simply.

On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 gdb(a)freecar.com wrote:

>=20
> /usr/sbin/sendmail   or put a link... I think it would be...
>=20
> ln -s /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/bin/smail
>=20
> and then use smail (or some other name)
>=20
>=20
> On 17-Apr-98 Jaeha Lee wrote:
> >
> >hi,
> >
> >Another non-root user question.
> >How to send mail in queue by non-root user ?
> >I do "sendmail -q" as root, but it's not convinent for me, because I
> >connect internet as non-root user.
> >
> >Cheers
> >jae
> >
> >
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From jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU Fri Apr 17 21:37:39 1998
From: jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] shoutdown ?
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:37:39 +1000
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Anything else ?

On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 gdb(a)freecar.com wrote:

>=20
> CTRL-ALT-DEL
>=20
>=20
> On 17-Apr-98 Jaeha Lee wrote:
> >
> >hi,
> >
> >What is the best way to shutdown Linux by non-root user ?
> >
> >Cheers
> >jae
> >
> >
> >
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From gecko@benham.net Fri Apr 17 21:49:45 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Yast FTP error message
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:49:45 -0700
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What does this error message mean when I try to use YAST to install some
packages...?  (I get it for some directories, but not all)

426 Data connection: Illegal seek.
Bad server response

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From jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU Fri Apr 17 22:00:43 1998
From: jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] shoutdown ?
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:00:43 +1000
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hi, 

I read man page about "sudoers", but too many things I don't understand.
please can you give me simple example, I'm not on the network, it's truly
stand-alone home PC.

On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Juergen Braukmann wrote:

> 
> gdb(a)freecar.com wrote:
> > 
> > CTRL-ALT-DEL
> 
> Hey, this is _not_ windooze!! ;-)
> 
> Truly, it works fine. Unless you have to find the right mioment to
> switch off, otherwise it goes back to linux. If you want a "proper" way
> look for "sudoers". The manpages examples tell most of it.
> 


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From gecko@benham.net Fri Apr 17 22:15:41 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Yast FTP error message
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:15:41 -0700
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Where would I... or would I... find the source code to some of the most basic
of utilities... such as cat and ls?  (particularly cat)

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From mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com Fri Apr 17 23:02:17 1998
From: mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] permissions
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:02:17 -0600
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Does anyone know how to limit a user's ability to navigate the file system.  =
I know that
FTP automatically creates a false root so that an anonymous FTP connection ca=
nnot get
below that directory.  I would like to be able to allow certain users a login=
 and rights
to their home directory ONLY!!  I have set very restrictive rights, only to g=
et numerous
errors upon login.  Even with these restrictive permissions the user can look=
 around if
they know UN*X filesystems.

Any help would be appreciated.

mc


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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Fri Apr 17 23:26:08 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] permissions
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:26:08 -0700
Message-ID: <199804172326.QAA23334@skaro.nightcrawler.com>
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> 
> Does anyone know how to limit a user's ability to navigate the file
> system.  I know that FTP automatically creates a false root so that an
> anonymous FTP connection cannot get below that directory.  I would
> like to be able to allow certain users a login and rights to their
> home directory ONLY!!  I have set very restrictive rights, only to get
> numerous errors upon login.  Even with these restrictive permissions
> the user can look around if they know UN*X filesystems.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.

How fortuitous that I have only recently completed reading O'Reilly's
lovely book "Learning the Bash Shell".

Bash, and perhaps tcsh also, has a restricted mode that it can be run
in.  If it is run as 'rbash' or with the parameter -r it will prevent a
user from many actions, including modifying certain variables such as
the PATH, changing the current directory, using the shell's 'exec'
command and other such things.  Thus you can supply users with a set of
programs you consider safe as well as space to store documents and
configuration files.

Try 'man bash' and search for RESTRICTED SHELL.

Please note that this should not be considered completely secure.
However, it will probably stop all but the most wily troublemakers.

-josh


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From aaronjw@netcom.ca Sat Apr 18 00:08:03 1998
From: aaronjw@netcom.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] permissions
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:08:03 -0400
Message-ID: <3537EEE3.5669@netcom.ca>
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Michael,

The problem with what you want to do is that for 750f users it is
fine. However, for the rest it won't matter what you do cause they can
always bust through any "internal firwall" for your filesystem you have
setup. I can "attain" root on ANY system I have access to. I may not get
it right away but eventualy I find a hole which allows me to slip in.

So you see it doesn't make much sence. If anything I'd work on beefing
up security and adding multiple system logs, if you are the insecure of
your users.

Aaron

Michael Clark wrote:
>=20
> Does anyone know how to limit a user's ability to navigate the file system.=
  I know that
> FTP automatically creates a false root so that an anonymous FTP connection =
cannot get
> below that directory.  I would like to be able to allow certain users a log=
in and rights
> to their home directory ONLY!!  I have set very restrictive rights, only to=
 get numerous
> errors upon login.  Even with these restrictive permissions the user can lo=
ok around if
> they know UN*X filesystems.
>=20
> Any help would be appreciated.
>=20
> mc
>=20
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From gecko@benham.net Sat Apr 18 01:43:33 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] 2.0.33 IP Fragment Bug
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:43:33 -0700
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Someone was asking about a security bug in the 2.0.33 kernel... patch has been
put up on=20

http://www.linuxhq.com/patch/20-p=
0827.html>">http://www.linuxhq.com/patch/2>
0-p0827.html

----------------------------------
http://homepages.skylink.net/~gec=
ko/index.html>
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.1
GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--)
O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++
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From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr 18 02:50:06 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] 5.2 shipped in U.S.A. yet ?
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:50:06 -0800
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Anyone got a copy of 5.2 yet ?

W.D.McKinney (Dee) -=- deem(a)wdm.com
No claim to fame, just saved by Grace.

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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sat Apr 18 04:27:12 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Matrox Millenium II & XF86Setup
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 00:27:12 -0400
Message-ID: <35382B9F.3C56B66@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil>
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Dee,

Thanks.  I downloaded their 10 minute demo.  It did the trick.  Took a while
to figure out how to get it configured and still have time to test it inside
of ten minutes.  They want $100 for it.  It looks like the only option.  I
was disapointed to see that It does not support the Intellimouse.

Steve

W.D.McKinney wrote:

> "Steven T. Hatton"  wrote:
> >
> > I have a Matrox Millenium II and a ViewSonic G810.  Under NT I can set
> > my display to 70Hz refresh, 24-bit color, and 1600 x 1200.  Using
> > XF86Setup, when I try to get the card to run 1600 X 1200 at 60Hz and
> > 24-bpp I get ripples of errant pixels running through the test pattern.
> > I can see no way to get this to 70 Hz.  Is this a limitation of the
> > driver for this card?  Is there a better driver?
> >
> > Steve
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I run Accelerated-X 3.1 on my Millenium I w/8megs and my
> ViewSonic G800 at 1600x1200 with the following:
>
> //
> // Accelerated-X 3.1, Build 3100
> //
> // Xaccel.ini created at Wed Apr 15 21:15:24 1998
> //
>
> [FONTPATH]
>     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/AcceleratedX/fonts/misc/",
>     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/",
>     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/",
>     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/",
>     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont",
>     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont";
>
> [RGBPATH]
>     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/AcceleratedX/etc/Xrgb";
>
> [SETTINGS]
>     SnfFormat =3D ISC;
>
> [KEYBOARD]
>     Layout =3D "en_US.xkm";
>
> [MOUSE]
>     Device   =3D "/dev/mouse";
>     Protocol =3D PS/2;
>     ChordMiddle =3D YES;
>
> [SCREEN]
>     Board   =3D "matrox/mga-mil8h.xqa";
>     Monitor =3D "sfreq/s1600-60.vda";
>     Depth   =3D 24;
>     EnergyStar =3D YES;
>
>     [RESOLUTIONS]
>         1600x1200;
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> I have Accelerated-X 4.1 also and it has full support
> for the Millenium II. See http://www.xig.com>
>
> Best Regards
> -Dee
>
> W.D.McKinney (Dee) -=3D- deem(a)wdm.com
> No claim to fame, just saved by Grace.
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From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr 18 04:33:24 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Matrox Millenium II & XF86Setup
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:33:24 -0800
Message-ID: <199804180433.UAA12999@wdm.com>
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"Steven T. Hatton"  wrote:
> 
> Dee,
> 
> Thanks.  I downloaded their 10 minute demo.  It did the trick.  Took a while
> to figure out how to get it configured and still have time to test it inside
> of ten minutes.  They want $100 for it.  It looks like the only option.  I
> was disapointed to see that It does not support the Intellimouse.
> 
> Steve

Well I am not familiar with the Intellimouse ? I use a Logitech 4 button 
MouseMan, on the bus port. I'm CC'ing the support folks at Xi to see if
it there is any future plans for your mouse.

RE: Hello folks...any plans ?

-Dee


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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sat Apr 18 04:34:13 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Screen Capture for Linux
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 00:34:13 -0400
Message-ID: <35382D45.6B4AC760@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil>
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Does anybody know of a tool that will allow me to capture either the
contents of complete windows, or of marked off sections of a display?
In other words, I would like to be able to select a window, such as
communicator, and save it as a jpg or gif.  I would also like to capture
a selected rectangle of my display that may cross window boundaries,
e.g., part of my netscape browser window and part of my KDE file manager
window in one jpg.

TIA,

Steve


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From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr 18 04:40:30 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Screen Capture for Linux
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:40:30 -0800
Message-ID: <199804180440.UAA13017@wdm.com>
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"Steven T. Hatton"  wrote:
>=20
> Does anybody know of a tool that will allow me to capture either the
> contents of complete windows, or of marked off sections of a display?
> In other words, I would like to be able to select a window, such as
> communicator, and save it as a jpg or gif.  I would also like to capture
> a selected rectangle of my display that may cross window boundaries,
> e.g., part of my netscape browser window and part of my KDE file manager
> window in one jpg.
>=20
> TIA,
>=20
> Steve

If you XV you have what you need. See http://www.wdm.co=
m/xvman/index.html>
Excellent and free for personal use. I have a registered copy and the
printed manual which is excellent.

-Dee

W.D.McKinney (Dee) -=3D- deem(a)wdm.com
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From satan@nfinity.com Sat Apr 18 06:00:05 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Screen Capture for Linux
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:00:05 -0500
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xwd -out filename
if you click on a window, it will save the window
click on the root window to save the whole screen

Steven T. Hatton wrote:

> Does anybody know of a tool that will allow me to capture either the
> contents of complete windows, or of marked off sections of a display?
> In other words, I would like to be able to select a window, such as
> communicator, and save it as a jpg or gif.  I would also like to capture
> a selected rectangle of my display that may cross window boundaries,
> e.g., part of my netscape browser window and part of my KDE file manager
> window in one jpg.
>
> TIA,
>
> Steve
>
> --
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> Ist nur ein Gleichniss"
> -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie.
>
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From satan@nfinity.com Sat Apr 18 06:53:38 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] xwd
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:53:38 -0500
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I neglected to mention that xwd images can then be converted to the
format of your choice using gimp.  I don't believe that xv will open an
xwd image, I seem to remember taking an xwd snapshot, using gimp to
convert it to jpeg, then using xv to convert the jpeg to xpm for
something I needed in xpm format.


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From morche@sat1.de Sat Apr 18 07:30:30 1998
From: morche@sat1.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] permissions
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:30:30 +0200
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Michael Clark wrote:
...
> errors upon login.  Even with these restrictive permissions the user can lo=
ok around if
> they know UN*X filesystems.
...
See "man chroot".

        Regards, Matthias


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From jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu Sat Apr 18 07:44:43 1998
From: jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] 5.2 shipped in U.S.A. yet ?
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 03:44:43 -0400
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>=20
> Anyone got a copy of 5.2 yet ?
>=20

        I saw the downloads thursday on their ftp site...  If they aren't shi=
pping yet, they definately have it there at ftp.suse.com ...

                                                Jonathan
>=20
> W.D.McKinney (Dee) -=3D- deem(a)wdm.com
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From rdebruin@willow.demon.nl Sat Apr 18 08:30:02 1998
From: rdebruin@willow.demon.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE Linux 5.2 and Open Sound
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 10:30:02 +0200
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I have a registred version of OSS Sound for Linux. The installation went
smoothly under SuSE Linux 5.1.

However, I installed SuSE Linux 5.2, and during the installation (step:
veryfying the kernel), I receive an error message (see below). I am using
the same oss driver: osslinux381q-20x.tar.gz.

I install the oss sound driver as follows: First I remove the existing
sound.o driver from /lib/modules/2.0.33/misc, I edit conf.modules and
replace the line "alias char-major-14 sound" with "off" and reboot Linux
before installing the driver.

Can somebody explain what is going on?

Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virt=
ual address c4866d50
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: current->tss.cr3 =3D 02896000, Xr3 =3D 02896000
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: *pde =3D 00001067
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: *pte =3D 00000000
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: Oops: 0000
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: CPU:    0
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: EIP:    0010:[<04866d50>]
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: EFLAGS: 00010206
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: eax: 04866d50   ebx: 00000000   ecx: 00000000 =
  edx: 00000032
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: esi: 00000000   edi: 0287cf58   ebp: 04865000 =
  esp: 0287cf3c
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   fs: 002b   gs: 002b   ss=
: 0018
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: Process cat (pid: 948, process nr: 35, stackpa=
ge=3D0287c000)
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: Stack: 0484b287 00000001 00000000 0333fdd0 03a=
f7800 bffff778 00000006 00000001=20
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel:        00000000 0333fdd0 00124276 03af7800 033=
3fdd0 0333fdd0 00000000 00000003=20
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel:        0012251f 03af7800 0333fdd0 00000000 000=
00003 080488d0 03af7800 0012262d=20
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: Call Trace: [<0484b287>] [chrdev_open+62/76] [=
do_open+195/284] [sys_open+57/112] [system_call+85/128]=20
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: Code: <1>Unable to handle kernel paging reques=
t at virtual address c4866d50
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: current->tss.cr3 =3D 02896000, Xr3 =3D 02896000
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: *pde =3D 00001067
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: *pte =3D 00000000
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: Oops: 0000
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: CPU:    0
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: EIP:    0010:[die_if_kernel+624/684]
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: EFLAGS: 00010202
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: eax: 00000010   ebx: 0000002b   ecx: 04866d50 =
  edx: 0378d810
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: esi: 00000000   edi: 0287d000   ebp: 0287cf00 =
  esp: 0287cea4
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   fs: 0010   gs: 002b   ss=
: 0018
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: Process cat (pid: 948, process nr: 35, stackpa=
ge=3D0287c000)
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: Stack: 0000002b 00001000 00066000 00000000 028=
56414 04800000 05000000 04800000=20
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel:        02850018 0011146a 001d7ea2 0287cf00 000=
00000 001111a0 00000000 0287cf58=20
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel:        04865000 0287cf58 029e0218 00068000 001=
0a8e0 0287cf00 00000000 00000000=20
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: Call Trace: [<04800000>] [<05000000>] [<048000=
00>] [do_page_fault+714/732] [do_page_fault+0/732] [<04865000>] [error_code+6=
4/80]=20
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel:        [<04865000>] [<04866d50>] [<04866d50>] =
[<0484b287>] [chrdev_open+62/76] [do_open+195/284] [sys_open+57/112] [system_=
call+85/128]=20
Apr 18 03:33:37 willow kernel: Code: 64 8a 04 0e 0f a1 88 c2 0f b6 d2 89 54 2=
4 10 52 68 c9 73 1d=20

Regards, Ruud.


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From brauki@cww.de Sat Apr 18 08:42:50 1998
From: brauki@cww.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] shoutdown ?
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 10:42:50 +0200
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Jaeha Lee wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> I read man page about "sudoers", but too many things I don't understand.
> please can you give me simple example, I'm not on the network, it's truly
> stand-alone home PC.
> 

OK, here we go. I give you my /etc/sudoers:

--------------------------8<----------------------------------------
# sudoers file.
#
# This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
#
# See the man page for the details on how to write a sudoers file.
#

# Host alias specification
Host_Alias      LOCAL=slartibartfast
# User alias specification
User_Alias      SYSTEM=braukman,dk4jb
# Cmnd alias specification
Cmnd_Alias      DOWN=/sbin/halt
# User privilege specification
root            ALL=(ALL) ALL
SYSTEM          LOCAL=DOWN
# brauki is allowed to shutdown slartibartfast without giving his
password:
brauki          slartibartfast=NOPASSWD:DOWN
# and so might his alter ego braukman ;-)
braukman        slartibartfast=/sbin/halt NOPASSWD:ALL
#
--------------------------8<----------------------------------------

to shout down my system I issue a 'sudo /sbin/halt'. I am not asked to
give my password, since I turned that off. that should do the trick. you
must install the sudo-package first.

an other tip to shut down a system is the following:
create a user say... down

modify /etc/passwd:

[...]
nobody:x:-2:-2:nobody:/tmp:/bin/bash
brauki:x:500:100:Juergen Braukmann:/home/brauki:/bin/bash
down:x:0:100:shutdownuseer:/tmp:/sbin/halt
[...]
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^
switch to another console log in as down and enjoy. ;-)

(I have not tried that one, but I remember someone sugesting that...)

Jürgen

ps: I have just tried that, it works if you give "down"
    the uid 0 (root)

    it's a good idea, to have a password on that account, too ;-)

    in my opinion it comes next to ctrl-alt-del, the proper way is
    sudo. nice to be root and able to change messages already in
    /etc/mqueue ... ;-))

wq
^^ oupps.. wrong editor ;-)


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From hettar@teleport.com Sat Apr 18 12:17:52 1998
From: hettar@teleport.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] FRAG BUG :(
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 05:17:52 -0700
Message-ID: <353899F0.C42E3124@teleport.com>
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Hi SuSE, I am wondering, ok I am asking, will you please,
put up on FTP a source tree (tar-ball) with the FRAG patches.

I have had very bad luck it seams compiling a suse-kernel
with the frag patch...

I am useing 2.0.33-suse, I really need this Frag patch thing
applyed to the source tree, kernel. I can't seam to do it=20
my self after repeated attempts, and I am pretty good at
compiling kernels..

Please let me know, as I have been attacked (yep on IRC with it)
once but that was enough to piss me off and try to patch it my-self

If you could get the current -suse kernel patched with it,=20
it would be great!

Let me know please..heh make sure it works!


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From gecko@skylink.net Sat Apr 18 16:00:49 1998
From: gecko@skylink.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] FRAG BUG :(
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:00:49 -0700
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It's one line, why not modify the file by hand... That's how I did it.

On 18-Apr-98 Steven Udell wrote:
>
>Hi SuSE, I am wondering, ok I am asking, will you please,
>put up on FTP a source tree (tar-ball) with the FRAG patches.
>
>I have had very bad luck it seams compiling a suse-kernel
>with the frag patch...
>
>I am useing 2.0.33-suse, I really need this Frag patch thing
>applyed to the source tree, kernel. I can't seam to do it=20
>my self after repeated attempts, and I am pretty good at
>compiling kernels..
>
>Please let me know, as I have been attacked (yep on IRC with it)
>once but that was enough to piss me off and try to patch it my-self
>
>If you could get the current -suse kernel patched with it,=20
>it would be great!
>
>Let me know please..heh make sure it works!
>
>
>
>
>--=20
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From jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU Sat Apr 18 16:15:19 1998
From: jae@student.unsw.EDU.AU
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] shoutdown ?
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 02:15:19 +1000
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Thank you very much really !!!

Cheers
jae

On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Juergen Braukmann wrote:

> 
> Jaeha Lee wrote:
> > 
> > hi,
> > 
> > I read man page about "sudoers", but too many things I don't understand.
> > please can you give me simple example, I'm not on the network, it's truly
> > stand-alone home PC.
> > 
> 
> OK, here we go. I give you my /etc/sudoers:
> 
> --------------------------8<----------------------------------------
> # sudoers file.
> #
> # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
> #
> # See the man page for the details on how to write a sudoers file.
> #
> 
> # Host alias specification
> Host_Alias      LOCAL=slartibartfast
> # User alias specification
> User_Alias      SYSTEM=braukman,dk4jb
> # Cmnd alias specification
> Cmnd_Alias      DOWN=/sbin/halt
> # User privilege specification
> root            ALL=(ALL) ALL
> SYSTEM          LOCAL=DOWN
> # brauki is allowed to shutdown slartibartfast without giving his
> password:
> brauki          slartibartfast=NOPASSWD:DOWN
> # and so might his alter ego braukman ;-)
> braukman        slartibartfast=/sbin/halt NOPASSWD:ALL
> #
> --------------------------8<----------------------------------------
> 
> 
> to shout down my system I issue a 'sudo /sbin/halt'. I am not asked to
> give my password, since I turned that off. that should do the trick. you
> must install the sudo-package first.
> 
> an other tip to shut down a system is the following:
> create a user say... down
> 
> modify /etc/passwd:
> 
> [...]
> nobody:x:-2:-2:nobody:/tmp:/bin/bash
> brauki:x:500:100:Juergen Braukmann:/home/brauki:/bin/bash
> down:x:0:100:shutdownuseer:/tmp:/sbin/halt
> [...]
>                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^
> switch to another console log in as down and enjoy. ;-)
> 
> (I have not tried that one, but I remember someone sugesting that...)
> 
> Jürgen
> 
> 
> ps: I have just tried that, it works if you give "down"
>     the uid 0 (root)
> 
>     it's a good idea, to have a password on that account, too ;-)
> 
>     in my opinion it comes next to ctrl-alt-del, the proper way is
>     sudo. nice to be root and able to change messages already in
>     /etc/mqueue ... ;-))
> 
> wq
> ^^ oupps.. wrong editor ;-)
> 
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From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr 18 17:41:06 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] GTK : I don't know how to compile GTK programs.
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:41:06 -0800
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Mickael Remond  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am following the GTK tutorial, but I am lost with compile issues.
> 
> The tutorial say to use the gtk-config program to pass the correct
> compile flag to gcc. But I did not manage to found this program in my
> suse linux 5.2.
> 
> Does some know how I should compile my program. All I have is a bunch of
> 'undefined reference' for each GTK functions I am using.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> Bye.
> 
> Mickael Remond
> mikl(a)club-internet.fr
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From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sat Apr 18 18:13:36 1998
From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 19:13:36 +0100
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On 12-Apr-98 Ow W K Danny wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
> Ok, TEX, hope you have not given up yet. Do the following steps:
>=20
> 1.  "cd /usr/src/linux/"
>=20
> 2.  "make clean"
>=20
> 3.  "make menuconfig"
>=20
> 4.  Choose all that you want to compile into the kernel, there is always
> "help" box when needed. [etc]

There is stuff (e.g. ftape etc) compiled into the kernel that S.u.S.E. instal=
led
which doesn't agree with what comes up when you run "menuconfig", nor with
what's in "/usr/src/linux-2.0.32/arch/i386/defconfig" (which seems to be the
same as the menuconfig stuff).

What I'd like to do is a kind of "diff" kernel compilation, e.g. if I want
sound then "menuconfig" should come up with the options already operative in =
my
running kernel also set in the menu; then all I have to do is add sound and
recompile and I get my old kernel plus sound. I'm concerned about overlooking
or leaving out kernel options I need and which are present in the running
kernel, if I recompile from scratch (as "menuconfig" seems to want to do).

So is there, anywhere, a "S.u.S.E. defconfig" which defines how the S.u.S.E.
kernel was compiled?

With thanks,
Ted.

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From mikl@club-internet.fr Sat Apr 18 18:25:39 1998
From: mikl@club-internet.fr
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] GTK : I don't know how to compile GTK programs.
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 20:25:39 +0200
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Hi,

I am following the GTK tutorial, but I am lost with compile issues.

The tutorial say to use the gtk-config program to pass the correct
compile flag to gcc. But I did not manage to found this program in my
suse linux 5.2.

Does some know how I should compile my program. All I have is a bunch of
'undefined reference' for each GTK functions I am using.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Bye.

Mickael Remond
mikl(a)club-internet.fr

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From deem@wdm.com Sat Apr 18 18:56:17 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] 5.2 shipped in U.S.A. yet ?
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 10:56:17 -0800
Message-ID: <199804181856.KAA00598@wdm.com>
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"Steven T. Hatton"  wrote:
> 
> Dee,
> 
> I came home today to find a Postal Service card telling me that I have a
> package at the Valet desk in my apartment complex.  Won't be able to get
> it till Monday.  I assume it is the coveted 5.2.  Monday seems a long
> way off :-(
> 
> Steve

Yea, I have a 2 week trip to California planeed soon, and wanted to see 
the differences.

Best Regards
-Dee


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From arnulf@geo.uni-bonn.de Sat Apr 18 19:19:11 1998
From: arnulf@geo.uni-bonn.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] need info on ~/.Xdefaults  - text buffer was full in
 X somehow
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 21:19:11 +0200
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Hello everybody!

While using suse 5.1 and fvwm2, Xfree, and MuPAD(!)
I got an error message that my text buffer was full!
(I assume for complicated algebra in MuPAD)
I couldn't even delete text.
The error-message also said, that
changing a text buffer variable in the ~/.Xdefaults -file
might help?
Where can I get info on all the things that can be set
in the ~/.Xdefaults -file??

thanks
arnulf

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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sat Apr 18 19:39:34 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] 5.2 shipped in U.S.A. yet ?
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 15:39:34 -0400
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Dee,

I came home today to find a Postal Service card telling me that I have a
package at the Valet desk in my apartment complex.  Won't be able to get
it till Monday.  I assume it is the coveted 5.2.  Monday seems a long
way off :-(

Steve

W.D.McKinney wrote:

> Anyone got a copy of 5.2 yet ?
>
> W.D.McKinney (Dee) -=- deem(a)wdm.com
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From alfiesty@chaffee.net Sat Apr 18 21:26:27 1998
From: alfiesty@chaffee.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] X on my Windows95 box from my SuSe Linux box
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 15:26:27 -0600
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 Well, I've got SuperX working and its really nice to not have to walk out in=
 the cold so much. I just needed to add the Win95's IP address into the .host=
s file on the Linux! You might think me a big wuss about the walk, but when t=
he sun goes down at 8150' elevation it gets cold FAST and our nights are stil=
l in the 14 to 20 degree F range.

Although it IS working, I get the following errors. 



FvwmTalk: dead pipe

FvwmButtons: Cause of next X Error.

X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)

Major opcode of failed request:  25 (X_SendEvent)

Resource id in failed request:  0x1c00002

Serial number of failed request:  764

Current serial number in output stream:  766

xterm:  fatal IO error 2 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server ":0.0"



Any ideas?

Jim

PS thanks to all who tried to help



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From hettar@teleport.com Sat Apr 18 21:44:07 1998
From: hettar@teleport.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] FRAG BUG :(
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:44:07 -0700
Message-ID: <35391EA7.9829E16F@teleport.com>
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Darren wrote:
>=20
> It's one line, why not modify the file by hand... That's how I did it.
>=20
Oh I see clearly, so what is the line and what file do I edit it to.
Exactly...eh?

Fight spam! Put a full reply back with needed information.

I had viacox1.diff, I applyed useing patch < viacox1.diff, after
compiling and rebooting system halted with (I forget the error)
but not more than a second after LILO uncompressed the kernel.

in /usr/src/linux-2.0.33-suse/net/ipv4 #

warhammer:/usr/src/linux-2.0.33-suse/net/ipv4 # ls
Config.in          ip_fw.c            ip_sockglue.o      tcp.c
Makefile           ip_fw.o            ipip.c             tcp.o
af_inet.c          ip_input.c         ipmr.c             tcp_input.c
af_inet.o          ip_input.o         ipv4.o             tcp_input.o
arp.c              ip_masq.c          packet.c           tcp_output.c
arp.o              ip_masq_app.c      packet.o           tcp_output.o
devinet.c          ip_masq_cuseeme.c  proc.c             tcp_timer.c
devinet.o          ip_masq_ftp.c      proc.o             tcp_timer.o
icmp.c             ip_masq_irc.c      protocol.c         timer.c
icmp.o             ip_masq_quake.c    protocol.o         timer.o
igmp.c             ip_masq_raudio.c   rarp.c             udp.c
igmp.o             ip_masq_vdolive.c  raw.c              udp.o
ip_alias.c         ip_options.c       raw.o              utils.c
ip_forward.c       ip_options.o       route.c            utils.o
ip_forward.o       ip_output.c        route.o
ip_fragment.c      ip_output.o        sysctl_net_ipv4.c
ip_fragment.o      ip_sockglue.c      sysctl_net_ipv4.o

Which one and what line?


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From satan@nfinity.com Sat Apr 18 22:16:42 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
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Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] FRAG BUG :(
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 17:16:42 -0500
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ip_fragment.c line 375, just like the diff states

Steven Udell wrote:

> Darren wrote:
> >
> > It's one line, why not modify the file by hand... That's how I did it.
> >
> Oh I see clearly, so what is the line and what file do I edit it to.
> Exactly...eh?
>
> Fight spam! Put a full reply back with needed information.
>
> I had viacox1.diff, I applyed useing patch < viacox1.diff, after
> compiling and rebooting system halted with (I forget the error)
> but not more than a second after LILO uncompressed the kernel.
>
> in /usr/src/linux-2.0.33-suse/net/ipv4 #
>
> warhammer:/usr/src/linux-2.0.33-suse/net/ipv4 # ls
> Config.in          ip_fw.c            ip_sockglue.o      tcp.c
> Makefile           ip_fw.o            ipip.c             tcp.o
> af_inet.c          ip_input.c         ipmr.c             tcp_input.c
> af_inet.o          ip_input.o         ipv4.o             tcp_input.o
> arp.c              ip_masq.c          packet.c           tcp_output.c
> arp.o              ip_masq_app.c      packet.o           tcp_output.o
> devinet.c          ip_masq_cuseeme.c  proc.c             tcp_timer.c
> devinet.o          ip_masq_ftp.c      proc.o             tcp_timer.o
> icmp.c             ip_masq_irc.c      protocol.c         timer.c
> icmp.o             ip_masq_quake.c    protocol.o         timer.o
> igmp.c             ip_masq_raudio.c   rarp.c             udp.c
> igmp.o             ip_masq_vdolive.c  raw.c              udp.o
> ip_alias.c         ip_options.c       raw.o              utils.c
> ip_forward.c       ip_options.o       route.c            utils.o
> ip_forward.o       ip_output.c        route.o
> ip_fragment.c      ip_output.o        sysctl_net_ipv4.c
> ip_fragment.o      ip_sockglue.c      sysctl_net_ipv4.o
>
> Which one and what line?
>
> --
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> sudell(a)teleport.com      and courage
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From suse@wavenet.it Sat Apr 18 23:09:14 1998
From: suse@wavenet.it
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] C-News problem
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 01:09:14 +0200
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I' m trying to configure C-News and Suck to download articles from a
remote host and browse them offline with Tin but I have many problems.
When i try to make a "sucknewsrc" typing "suck -A -hl localhost" from
root, I get the following:

Attempting to connect to localhost
Using Port 119
Official host name: localhost
Alias Voyager
Address: 127.0.0.1
Connected to localhost
200 Voyager NNTP[auth] server version 1.5.12.1 (1 Jan 1995) ready at Sat
Apr 18 23:21:45 1998 (posting ok).
Loading active file from localhost
No sucknewsrc to read, creating
Adding new groups from local active file to sucknewsrc
New Group - adding to sucknewsrc: control
New Group - adding to sucknewsrc: junk
New Group - adding to sucknewsrc: news.announce.newusers
New Group - adding to sucknewsrc: it.comp.linux
Elapsed Time = 0 mins 0.23 seconds
0 Articles to download
No articles
Closed connection to localhost

After this, I go to /var/lib/suck/ but sucknewsrc was not found nor read
nor updated (as you see above) and no other "sucknewsrc" has been created. 
The only thing it writes is a "suck.newrc" in the directory from where I
typed the command above. So I' ve edited /var/lib/suck/sucknewsrc by hand
entering newsgroup names by hand but suck does not seem to find it.

What did I miss? Do I have to run all suck processes as user news staying
in directory /var/lib/suck? Which command do I have to type to start news
downloading? "/var/lib/suck/get.news.rnews"? As user news?

I' ve edited /var/lib/suck/get.news.rnews but what should I write in
"BASEDIR=         # base directory for suck rpost and scripts"??
Suck executable is in /usr/bin
Rpost is in /usr/bin
Scripts... which scripts? I' ve put get.news.rnews and other things in
/usr/lib/suck. Which value should I write?

Lastly I tried to run "suck -A -hl localhost" in /var/lib/suck/ as user
news and I got the following:

news(a)Voyager:/var/lib/suck > suck -A -hl localhost
/var/lib/suck/cola: No such file or directory
Attempting to connect to localhost
Using Port 119
Official host name: localhost
Alias Voyager
Address: 127.0.0.1
Connected to localhost
200 Voyager NNTP[auth] server version 1.5.12.1 (1 Jan 1995) ready at Sun
Apr 19 00:29:59 1998 (posting ok).
Loading active file from localhost
Reading current sucknewsrc
Adding new groups from local active file to sucknewsrc
New Group - adding to sucknewsrc: control
New Group - adding to sucknewsrc: junk
Elapsed Time = 0 mins 0.23 seconds
0 Articles to download
Processing Supplemental List
Supplemental List Processed, 1 articles added, 1 articles to download
Deduping Elapsed Time = 0 mins 0.00 seconds
Deduped, 1 items remaining, 0 dupes removed.
Processing History File Elapsed Time = 0 mins 0.00 seconds
Processed history, 0 dupes removed
Total articles to download: 1
***Unexpected response to command, head


430 No article by message-id
, sorry.

89 Bytes received in 0 mins 0.09 secs, BPS = 1022.1
Closed connection to localhost

Again, sucknewsrc is not modified even permissions would allow it.
What' s "/var/lib/suck/cola"? As I' ve never tried to download news from
remote hosts, what' s that
"cola-liw-809989529-6999-1(a)oravannahka.helsinki.fi"?

/var/log/suck.errlog is empty.

In /var/log/news I get the following error:
Apr 19 00:54:00 localhost nntpd[21231]: list: fopen 
/var/lib/news/newsgroups: No such file or directory
What can I do?

I' ve already read man pages and I' m more confused than before...

Please, help me.

Thanks in advance.


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From owwkd@cybernix.com.sg Sat Apr 18 23:33:32 1998
From: owwkd@cybernix.com.sg
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 07:33:32 +0800
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On Sat, 18 Apr 1998 Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk wrote:

> 
> On 12-Apr-98 Ow W K Danny wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > Ok, TEX, hope you have not given up yet. Do the following steps:
> > 
> > 1.  "cd /usr/src/linux/"
> > 
> > 2.  "make clean"
> > 
> > 3.  "make menuconfig"
> > 
> > 4.  Choose all that you want to compile into the kernel, there is always
> > "help" box when needed. [etc]
> 
> There is stuff (e.g. ftape etc) compiled into the kernel that S.u.S.E. 
> installed which doesn't agree with what comes up when you run
> "menuconfig", nor with what's in
> "/usr/src/linux-2.0.32/arch/i386/defconfig" (which seems to be the same
> as the menuconfig stuff). 
> 
What "stuff" compiled in S.u.S.E. does not agree with "menuconfig"?  The
"defconfig" file is used for reference when compiling the kernel. If you
want to edit that file, you can but would you know what are the variables
used? Whereas, menuconfig is designed to assist you on that.  Further
more, you can press the button help and it will explain to you about that
feature you want to compile into the kernel.

> What I'd like to do is a kind of "diff" kernel compilation, e.g. if I
> want sound then "menuconfig" should come up with the options already
> operative in my running kernel also set in the menu; then all I have to
> do is add sound and recompile and I get my old kernel plus sound. I'm
> concerned about overlooking or leaving out kernel options I need and
> which are present in the running kernel, if I recompile from scratch (as
> "menuconfig" seems to want to do). 
> 
If you have not recompile the kernel yet, take sometime and try it. There
are more features that you want or discard from the kernel. When you
missed an option or two, recompile again. "make clean" is just removing
the object and module files. It would not change the options in your
.menconfig file. 

Hope you would enjoy it...

Danny


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From deem@wdm.com Sun Apr 19 00:16:52 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP Help
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:16:52 -0800
Message-ID: <199804190016.QAA00918@wdm.com>
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afranklin(a)fnt.com (Alfred P. Franklin) wrote:
>=20
> Hi everyone,
>=20
> 	Can Linux dial into a Windows NT server that uses RAS?
>=20
>  	We have a Windows NT 4.0 server for remote access at my office and I am t=
rying to setup a dialup for SuSE Linux into it. I have been trying to use EZP=
PP for the connection and so far no good. I keep getting a message that state=
s as follows:
>     Negotiating PPP Connection and then The PPPD Daemon died unexpectedly.
>=20
> I would appreciated any help I can get..

X-ISP will let configure for NT. See=20
http://users.hol.gr/~dbouras/download.htm=
l>

Regards
-Dee

W.D.McKinney (Dee) -=3D- deem(a)wdm.com
No claim to fame, just saved by Grace.

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From afranklin@fnt.com Sun Apr 19 01:07:31 1998
From: afranklin@fnt.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP Help
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 19:07:31 -0600
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Hi everyone,

        Can Linux dial into a Windows NT server that uses RAS?

         We have a Windows NT 4.0 server for remote access at my office and I=
 am trying to setup a dialup for SuSE Linux into it. I have been trying to us=
e EZPPP for the connection and so far no good. I keep getting a message that =
states as follows:
    Negotiating PPP Connection and then The PPPD Daemon died unexpectedly.

I would appreciated any help I can get..

       =20


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From mikedav@ibm.net Sun Apr 19 02:25:52 1998
From: mikedav@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] FRAG BUG :(
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:25:52 -0400
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From mailinfo@cgicon.com Sun Apr 19 16:51:45 1998
From: mailinfo@cgicon.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Suse as Firewall
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 00:51:45 +0800
Message-ID: <353A2BA1.765B583@cgicon.com>
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Mark Skinner wrote:
>=20
> Has any setup Suse on a pc to just be a firewall?
> one ethernet in and one ethernet out?
> or is there a faq for firewalling out there..
> thanks
> Mark Skinner

The most famous firewalls for Linux are the buildin capabilities
managed with ipfwadm - no additional tools required -
and FWTK and SOCKS.=20

1. SuSE Linux has the first type of firewall support buildin,
which is usually maintained with -=20
see: man ipfwadm  * correct me, if I'm wrong *
- - -
But this is a type of packet filtering router and is=20
suitable for dividing subnets or as a simple
firewall, if the connection with internet is NOT=20
24 hours AND with a dynamic IP. If in use 24 hours with
a leased line and a static IP - it's not secure enough.

Two application level firewalls are
2. FWTK
This is the most famous kit in the Linux community

3. SOCKS
The other Application level Firewall (exactly: circuit level),
called SOCKS5, look here:
http://www.socks.nec.com/>
and
http://www.socks5toolkit.nec.com/>

Performance diff.:
Type 1 does not need as much computing power as type 2 or 3.

The SOCKS5 package compiles and runs *smooth* on Linux (ELF)
without any problems, it's easy of use and has features which
gives you the ability for VPN.    Now any apps can be
socksified - not the restrictions as FWTK. The FWTK has
some advantage in that there can be a setup more restrictive for
the office staff, but both (SOCKS5 and FWTK) give high protection
from outside. But SOCKS5 is much more flexible and user friendly.

Additionally as I know from many other mailings, the SOCKS
has a better performance than FWTK. The machine we use
for SOCKS5 is a EPoX-mainboard, P166+ CyRIX, 32 MB RAM,
AHA-2940 + 2 GB SCSI (one GIGA is enough also), two
NE-2000 compatible cards and if 10 - 15 ? people are mailing and
surfing, the load on the machine is pretty high sometimes... so
for a bigger office I would consider a 200 Pro + and 64 MB RAM.

The bastion host is dual homed with different IP on both network
cards. To setup/install the cards, I reserved a small DOS-
partition for the DOS tools of the cards, in Linux then, since
Linux recognizes only one card alone, I enter parameters into
lilo.conf (see HowTos for multiple ethernet...)

Even it's a server, I recommend to install X-windows for the
first time, you have a good control in several windows and
SOCKS5 has additional abilities of graphical statistics...
It'a good to be able to watch both cards and the output of
the SOCKS5 server (debugging mode) plus machine load.

(NOTE:
 X-Windows has vulnerabilities concerning security !!! -
 so the bastion host should run later without X. SOCKS5 has
 tools for logging and statistics running on another machine)

Additionally on such a firewall can be installed a
proxy server, wich caches content for your users.
But with that I have no practical experience yet.
Squid is famous and by reading mailings maybe best.
SuSE comes with Squid preinstalled !  Very nice.

I highly recommend to take a good book on firewalling  !

Best Regards, Lu

PS.
 I choosed SOCKS5 as bastion host for a company and we run it on top
 of Caldera OpenLinux Base, but there should be no difference in
 modern distributions today (SuSE, Caldera, RedHat, etc...)


--=20
Ludwig Richter     CGI consult     http://www.cgicon.com/>
Lu(a)cgicon.com        With Acknowledge: richter(a)cgicon.com
_________________________________________________________
Sent with Netscape Communicator 4.04 on S.u.S.E.Linux 5.2

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From mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov Sun Apr 19 17:49:22 1998
From: mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Solved --> Re: NS communicator java crashes
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 13:49:22 -0400
Message-ID: <19980419134922.12314@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov>
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good day all ...

i solved it, by mere luck. i had my laptop running in 24bpp mode. 
i switched it to 8bpp and netscrape works. simple as that, but
kind of scary. i'm glad i don't need 24bpp.

-- michael

o
Thus Spake Michael Galloway (mgx(a)spruce.lsd.ornl.gov):
> 
> good day all ...
> 
> i just installed communicator 4.05 on my suse 5.1 laptop. whenever
> communicator tries to run java it crashes with a buss error. i ran
> the installer that came with it and set the MOZILLA_HOME environment
> variable. has anyone else seen this problem?
> 

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From billmadsen@worldnet.att.net Sun Apr 19 21:32:32 1998
From: billmadsen@worldnet.att.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Setting modem speed
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 21:32:32 +0000
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Some weeks ago a message was posted somewhere telling how to
circumvent the 38400 bps modem speed by an entry in one of the
configuration files.  When I upgraded from 5.1 to 5.2 I lost the
setting, and now I can't remember what I did.  Can anyone help me out?

Thanks.

Bill Madsen in St. Louis

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From roberto@cbvcp.com Sun Apr 19 21:37:09 1998
From: roberto@cbvcp.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] xwindows
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:37:09 -0700
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When I try to start x (command=startx), it gives me an error that two
directories are missing, one under var and the other under user.  i have
reinstalled suse many times today and i am at my wits end.  when i go
into xf86 setup under YaST, it tells me that i have not setup an svga
server under /usr/X11R6/bin/svga .  Do i need to do this and what will
enable me to use x?  all of my hardware is supported.

Aaron Seelye 


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From deBarros@bicc.uni-bonn.de Sun Apr 19 22:23:55 1998
From: deBarros@bicc.uni-bonn.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printing under Applixware
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 22:23:55 +0000
Message-ID: <199804192109.WAA02529@bicc.uni-bonn.de>
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Hi,

I have just installed the Applixware package on my linux box, which 
runs with SuSE ver 5.1. Unfortunately i couldn't figure out how to 
print from Applixware. I always  get the message "Printjob failured, 
trying to print in foreground" and nothing comes out. I use lpd and 
apsfilter at my system, it works fine with all others applications, 
so that the problem might be with the applixware configuration. I 
read the sys-admin online handbook without finding any way to solve 
it. Does someone has already a similar problem or can help me to 
figure it out ? I'll be pleased about every help.

Thanks,

Jose Eduardo

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From vhearn@wenet.net Sun Apr 19 22:31:09 1998
From: vhearn@wenet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] UPGRADE
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 15:31:09 -0700
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Well, I thought I was home free...
   Iplugged in the suse5.2 disks and did a reboot, yast autodetected my
hardware and xfree86 installed like a breeze. I could run fvwm, yet
could not get a dialup happening.
   Anyway...I needed some more space on my HD so i started removing
stuff. Wow do I have problems now.heh
   I LILO into suse52 and it hangs right after loading VFS. YAST can't
find /mnt/lib/yast/SUSEconfig.functions...
   I can boot into linux from my suse5.0 floppy, i tried to replace the
system with a smaller package, but it still hangs....is there something
i should do to close out the YAST session? Should i reload YAST or what?

Your Friend,
                     #vic#

                       aka

                 FrAcTeL23


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From micheleamerica@geocities.com Sun Apr 19 23:52:40 1998
From: micheleamerica@geocities.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] [S.u.S.E.] isdn4linux and mppp.
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 00:52:40 +0100
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Can someone tell me how to configure a se=
cond=20
isdn channel to add as a slave to a working one ?


 


I have a working setup using HiSax in TIK=
 mode=20
and using syncppp.


What must i do to configure a slave devic=
e ?=20



 


If possible tell me all files that have t=
o=20
change and what is to be added.


 


Thanks,


 


Michele America


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From xerxes1@ix.netcom.com Mon Apr 20 01:32:16 1998
From: xerxes1@ix.netcom.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape disappearing stop icon
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 21:32:16 -0400
Message-ID: <353AA5A0.1A1987E6@ix.netcom.com>
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Hi all,

I've been running 3.04 - I really like the design and functionally. 
I've always had a small problem with it - I think due to my
configuration (or perhaps mis-configuration).  Frequently when I click a
link to go to an address, my stop icon completely disappears.  

When the internet is really busy, sometimes getting the stop icon back
and getting traffic thru the browser can take several minutes.  Has any
body encountered this?  Any idea what I'm doing wrong??  Thanks.

Andy

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From srr03@tid.es Mon Apr 20 07:51:21 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] LILO
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:51:21 +0200
Message-ID: <353AFE78.95F276BC@tid.es>
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But what is the problem? The BIOS? I have a 2Gb hd and I installed Lilo witho=
ut
problem (in a Pentium motherboard). Why happens the problem about the 1024
cylinders?
Thanks.

The Gecko wrote:

> Nope... some 800Mb hardrives have more than 1024 cylinders.... I boot my
> vmlinuz (actually, zImage) off of /usr which on a different harddrive from =
my
> /
>
> On 17-Apr-98 Santiago Rodriguez wrote:
> >
> >I have a problem about that. I am trying to put 'vmlinuz' in '/', but I ca=
n't
> >because yast says my partition has more than 1024 cilynders. But it is only
> >800Mb
> >large. Is it possible?
> >Did I do something wrong? It is a 486DX 33.
> >Bye
> >
> >gdb(a)freecar.com wrote:
> >
> >> The only times I got that was when I was trying to boot off of a partiti=
on
> >that
> >> has more than 1024 cylinders.... It happened on both Red-hat and SuSE...=
 to
> >me..
> >>
> >> On 16-Apr-98 Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
> >> >


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From mantel@suse.de Mon Apr 20 10:01:40 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: LILO
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:01:40 +0200
Message-ID: 
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Hi,

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Santiago Rodriguez wrote:

> But what is the problem? The BIOS? I have a 2Gb hd and I installed Lilo wit=
hout
> problem (in a Pentium motherboard). Why happens the problem about the 1024
> cylinders?

Yes, the BIOS is the problem. The BIOS only has 10 Bits for the number of
cylinders. When LILO tries to load some data from cylinder 1025, it will
get the data from cylinder 1, which is not what you want.
There are several workarounds for that problem; the Adaptec SCSI adapters
are doing some translation: instead of 2048 cylinders and 32 heads it
fakes 1024 cylinders and 64 heads for example.

> Thanks.
>=20
> The Gecko wrote:
>=20
> > Nope... some 800Mb hardrives have more than 1024 cylinders.... I boot my
> > vmlinuz (actually, zImage) off of /usr which on a different harddrive fro=
m my
> > /
> >
> > On 17-Apr-98 Santiago Rodriguez wrote:
> > >
> > >I have a problem about that. I am trying to put 'vmlinuz' in '/', but I =
can't
> > >because yast says my partition has more than 1024 cilynders. But it is o=
nly
> > >800Mb
> > >large. Is it possible?
> > >Did I do something wrong? It is a 486DX 33.
> > >Bye
> > >
> > >gdb(a)freecar.com wrote:
> > >
> > >> The only times I got that was when I was trying to boot off of a parti=
tion
> > >that
> > >> has more than 1024 cylinders.... It happened on both Red-hat and SuSE.=
.. to
> > >me..
> > >>
> > >> On 16-Apr-98 Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

    Hubert


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From scurran@aracnet.net Mon Apr 20 10:23:12 1998
From: scurran@aracnet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] gcc libraries
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 06:23:12 -0400
Message-ID: <353B220F.16AC7DF1@aracnet.net>
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In order to learn about the differences in the different distributions I
have loaded and worked four types of Linux.  With two I have been unable
to get gcc to link files.  Can anyone tell me what libraries or files
are needed by gcc to link files.  I think this may be the problem?  Suse
worked fine but redhat 4.2, 5.0 and Caldera all failed to compile and
link.  I ran them on a P150 cpu, if that helps and loaded everything on
the CDs.

Except for ppp and Netscape I really think suse is the way to go.

PPP is now one but I still cannot get Netscape to find the modem.
Thanks

Denis


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From pepr@videotron.ca Mon Apr 20 10:41:04 1998
From: pepr@videotron.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] A dream come true
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 06:41:04 -0400
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        For all those who desperately needed a professionnal IDE to make
there developpement in java under Linux, the wait is over. Just take a
look at this tool called "Wipeout" at:=20
       =20
http://www.softwarebuero.de/wipeout-e=
ng.html>

Sorry for all those Windows friend but there is no Win32 version. I am
sure you will be happy for us that for once we have something that you
don't have. In my opinion if you are a serious java programmer, this IDE
alone is  enough to switch to Linux.

        It will not replace Freebuilder if the people that seem to have
appropriate it for themself ever release it in the community, but at
least, in the mean time, we will have something to code it in. And
something so well designed that the bar have raised quite a bit higher to
compete with.=20

Here are just a few of the features:

1:  Smalltalk like classbrowser;(not that ugly, always in the way, tree
simily browser). See all the classes of your project at once; click on any
class ant see all the methods in another pane, click on any method and get
right there in the source.

2: Graphical front end for the JDB debugger. Set breakpoint visualy,
inspect variables, step in code, name it.

3: Graphical front end for  CVS version control. Make changes everywhere
in a project and if it doesn't work roll back to a working version. Not to
mention the workgroup possibility of CVS fully supported.

4: Entirely configurable, through regular expression, pretty printing in
the editor with font, bolt italic and regular and custom color. And as a
bonus the pretty printing is even supported for the printer with, as an
extra bonus, a print preview.=20

5: All the documentation very well done in html with html reader build in.
Does not support java documentation yet but if we are enough java
developers to ask, who know.

P.S. I am not related to sofwarebuero in any ways. Just very enthusiastic
to have found something I have been looking for in the last two years.


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From weekleyj@fastrans.net Mon Apr 20 11:40:52 1998
From: weekleyj@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Setting modem speed
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 06:40:52 -0500
Message-ID: <353B3444.6BF537F9@fastrans.net>
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William G. Madsen wrote:

> Some weeks ago a message was posted somewhere telling how to
> circumvent the 38400 bps modem speed by an entry in one of the
> configuration files.  When I upgraded from 5.1 to 5.2 I lost the
> setting, and now I can't remember what I did.  Can anyone help me out?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill Madsen in St. Louis
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Bill,

Look in /etc/rc.d/serial
then find the entry that corresponds to your serial port  tack "spd_vhi"
on the end.
like mine below.

 ${SETSERIAL} /dev/cua1 uart 16550A port 0x2F8 irq 3 spd_vhi.

John Weekley
(In St. Charles!:)


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From srr03@tid.es Mon Apr 20 11:45:53 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] startx error
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:45:53 +0200
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  When I 'startx' I receive an error saying that there is no server
active. I just execute 'startx' again and there it goes. Perhaps the
Xserver takes a little time in starting?
Thanks.


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From srr03@tid.es Mon Apr 20 11:55:01 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: LILO
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:55:01 +0200
Message-ID: <353B3795.ADDFFD0D@tid.es>
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  But what about all what happens after Lilo? I have installed all SuSe Linux=
 and it
seems the only problem I have is with Lilo. I start with a boot disk and afte=
r that I
have no troubles (by now...). What about all the other operations with files?=
 Why
doesn't it run into troubles after?

Hubert Mantel wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Santiago Rodriguez wrote:
>
> > But what is the problem? The BIOS? I have a 2Gb hd and I installed Lilo w=
ithout
> > problem (in a Pentium motherboard). Why happens the problem about the 1024
> > cylinders?
>
> Yes, the BIOS is the problem. The BIOS only has 10 Bits for the number of
> cylinders. When LILO tries to load some data from cylinder 1025, it will
> get the data from cylinder 1, which is not what you want.
> There are several workarounds for that problem; the Adaptec SCSI adapters
> are doing some translation: instead of 2048 cylinders and 32 heads it
> fakes 1024 cylinders and 64 heads for example.


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From pepr@videotron.ca Mon Apr 20 12:21:55 1998
From: pepr@videotron.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] A dream come true
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:21:55 -0400
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On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 pepr(a)videotron.ca wrote:

>=20
> 	For all those who desperately needed a professionnal IDE to make
> there developpement in java under Linux, the wait is over. Just take a
> look at this tool called "Wipeout" at:=20
> =09
> http://www.softwarebuero.de/wipeout=
-eng.html>
>=20
> Sorry for all those Windows friend but there is no Win32 version. I am
> sure you will be happy for us that for once we have something that you
> don't have. In my opinion if you are a serious java programmer, this IDE
> alone is  enough to switch to Linux.
>=20
> 	It will not replace Freebuilder if the people that seem to have
> appropriate it for themself ever release it in the community, but at
> least, in the mean time, we will have something to code it in. And
> something so well designed that the bar have raised quite a bit higher to
> compete with.=20
>=20
> Here are just a few of the features:
>=20
> 1:  Smalltalk like classbrowser;(not that ugly, always in the way, tree
> simily browser). See all the classes of your project at once; click on any
> class ant see all the methods in another pane, click on any method and get
> right there in the source.
>=20
> 2: Graphical front end for the JDB debugger. Set breakpoint visualy,
> inspect variables, step in code, name it.
>=20
> 3: Graphical front end for  CVS version control. Make changes everywhere
> in a project and if it doesn't work roll back to a working version. Not to
> mention the workgroup possibility of CVS fully supported.
>=20
> 4: Entirely configurable, through regular expression, pretty printing in
> the editor with font, bolt italic and regular and custom color. And as a
> bonus the pretty printing is even supported for the printer with, as an
> extra bonus, a print preview.=20
>=20
> 5: All the documentation very well done in html with html reader build in.
> Does not support java documentation yet but if we are enough java
> developers to ask, who know.
>=20
> P.S. I am not related to sofwarebuero in any ways. Just very enthusiastic
> to have found something I have been looking for in the last two years.

 Sorry for that folks, this message was intended for the free-builders
 list.  Anyway if the people at S.u.S.E want to include Wipeout in the
 next distribution I am sure a lot of people would appreciate.=20


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From mantel@suse.de Mon Apr 20 13:08:57 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: LILO
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:08:57 +0200
Message-ID: 
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Hi,

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Santiago Rodriguez wrote:

>   But what about all what happens after Lilo? I have installed all SuSe Lin=
ux and it
> seems the only problem I have is with Lilo. I start with a boot disk and af=
ter that I
> have no troubles (by now...). What about all the other operations with file=
s? Why
> doesn't it run into troubles after?

The Linux kernel does not use the BIOS functions to access the harddisks.

> Hubert Mantel wrote:
>=20
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Santiago Rodriguez wrote:
> >
> > > But what is the problem? The BIOS? I have a 2Gb hd and I installed Lilo=
 without
> > > problem (in a Pentium motherboard). Why happens the problem about the 1=
024
> > > cylinders?
> >
> > Yes, the BIOS is the problem. The BIOS only has 10 Bits for the number of
> > cylinders. When LILO tries to load some data from cylinder 1025, it will
> > get the data from cylinder 1, which is not what you want.
> > There are several workarounds for that problem; the Adaptec SCSI adapters
> > are doing some translation: instead of 2048 cylinders and 32 heads it
> > fakes 1024 cylinders and 64 heads for example.

    Hubert


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From roberto@cbvcp.com Mon Apr 20 13:11:48 1998
From: roberto@cbvcp.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] startx error
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 06:11:48 -0700
Message-ID: <353B4994.EED03611@cbvcp.com>
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I'm having the same problem after installing the svga server and nvidia
server.  Please anyone?

Aaron

Santiago Rodriguez wrote:

>   When I 'startx' I receive an error saying that there is no server
> active. I just execute 'startx' again and there it goes. Perhaps the
> Xserver takes a little time in starting?
> Thanks.
>
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From netsomni@fastrans.net Mon Apr 20 13:29:00 1998
From: netsomni@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP Help
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:29:00 +0000
Message-ID: <199804201827.NAA10794@maat.fastrans.net>
In-Reply-To: <7A4BD94DC59FD111A4B400805F85B58B9750F1@msx01018.boc.texaco.com>
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http://netsomni.fastrans.net>

> From:          "Frolick, Joseph A" 
> To:            suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Subject:       RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP Help
> Date:          Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:34:20 -0500
> Reply-to:      suse-linux-e(a)suse.com

>=20
> Maybe the NT server is set up to require microsoft encrypted authentication.
>=20
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From:	afranklin(a)fnt.com [SMTP:afranklin(a)fnt.com]
> 	Sent:	Saturday, April 18, 1998 8:08 PM
> 	To:	'suse-linux-e(a)suse.com'
> 	Subject:	[S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP Help
>=20
>=20
> 	Hi everyone,
>=20
> 		Can Linux dial into a Windows NT server that uses RAS?
>=20
> 	 	We have a Windows NT 4.0 server for remote access at my
> office and I am trying to setup a dialup for SuSE Linux into it. I have been
> trying to use EZPPP for the connection and so far no good. I keep getting a
> message that states as follows:
> 	    Negotiating PPP Connection and then The PPPD Daemon died
> unexpectedly.
>=20
> 	I would appreciated any help I can get..
>=20
>=20
> 	=09
>=20
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From frolija@texaco.com Mon Apr 20 15:34:20 1998
From: frolija@texaco.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP Help
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:34:20 -0500
Message-ID: <7A4BD94DC59FD111A4B400805F85B58B9750F1@msx01018.boc.texaco.com>
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Maybe the NT server is set up to require microsoft encrypted authentication.

        -----Original Message-----
        From:	afranklin(a)fnt.com [SMTP:afranklin(a)fnt.com]
        Sent:	Saturday, April 18, 1998 8:08 PM
        To:	'suse-linux-e(a)suse.com'
        Subject:	[S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP Help

        Hi everyone,

                Can Linux dial into a Windows NT server that uses RAS?

                 We have a Windows NT 4.0 server for remote access at my
office and I am trying to setup a dialup for SuSE Linux into it. I have been
trying to use EZPPP for the connection and so far no good. I keep getting a
message that states as follows:
            Negotiating PPP Connection and then The PPPD Daemon died
unexpectedly.

        I would appreciated any help I can get..

                

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From billmadsen@worldnet.att.net Mon Apr 20 15:53:03 1998
From: billmadsen@worldnet.att.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Setting modem speed
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:53:03 +0000
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On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 06:40:52 -0500, you wrote:

>
>Look in /etc/rc.d/serial
>then find the entry that corresponds to your serial port  tack "spd_vhi"
>on the end.
>like mine below.
>
> ${SETSERIAL} /dev/cua1 uart 16550A port 0x2F8 irq 3 spd_vhi.
>
>John Weekley
>(In St. Charles!:)

John,

Thanks very much.  I'll never say another bad word about St. Charles.
:--)

Bill

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From Marius.Augenstein@alcatel.de Mon Apr 20 16:23:55 1998
From: Marius.Augenstein@alcatel.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Problems with Wabi 2.2
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:23:55 +0200
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Hy there=20

I bought Wabi for Linux to run Word in it. After the installation I got
problems with the current color depth. I'm using a default depth of 16 bit.
When wabi starts the only result is that I'm get the message:

X Server has unsupported default depth
Unrecoverable Error in Wabi

Unsupported display depth 16 in init_gdi.

Wabi will exit now.

I tried it with using 8 bit as the default depth and it works. Is there
a possibility which enables wabi to work under 16 bit color depth ??
A special switch or sth.


--=20
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        Department: VS/EIA1                     ______V______
        Telephone : (+49) 711 / 821 46175       A L C A T E L
        Fax       : (+49) 711 / 821 40082
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From kar@webline.dk Mon Apr 20 18:02:09 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] LILO
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 20:02:09 +0200
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> Unfortunatly it makes a difference. We are using version 20, which treats
> the 'linear' paramemeter in a different way. So sometimes it works with 
> RH but it doesn't with S.u.S.E. However removing 'linear' helps in most
> cases.

I tried without Linear, and it works with Linux. Now the problem is,
that Windows NT gives me the Blue Screen Of Death (BSOD). According to
Internet searches, NT sometimes don't like you to mess around in the
MBR. Don't know what to do about it, so I'm back to loadlin :-(


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From satan@nfinity.com Mon Apr 20 18:52:43 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] LILO
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:52:43 -0500
Message-ID: <353B997B.F30908B7@nfinity.com>
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Please see the nt-linux howto.  Dual booting with nt is not as straight forwa=
rd
as with win95.  You have to specify your linux root partition as the boot
device instead of the mbr because the nt os loader owns the mbr in nt.  Read
the howto, it's pretty simple to follow.

Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

> > Unfortunatly it makes a difference. We are using version 20, which treats
> > the 'linear' paramemeter in a different way. So sometimes it works with
> > RH but it doesn't with S.u.S.E. However removing 'linear' helps in most
> > cases.
>
> I tried without Linear, and it works with Linux. Now the problem is,
> that Windows NT gives me the Blue Screen Of Death (BSOD). According to
> Internet searches, NT sometimes don't like you to mess around in the
> MBR. Don't know what to do about it, so I'm back to loadlin :-(
>
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From andyford@fastrans.net Mon Apr 20 21:44:58 1998
From: andyford@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] info dir
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:44:58 -0500
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Hey Y'all
I've got the ftape info files installed in /usr/info, but
thay don't show up
in the info dir file. I was jus gonna stick 'em in there but
the file says
"auto-configured by SuSE. do not edit" SO I was wondering
how i can add things 
to the auto-config of my info dir.

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From weekleyj@fastrans.net Mon Apr 20 23:15:09 1998
From: weekleyj@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Setting modem speed
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:15:09 -0500
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William G. Madsen wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 06:40:52 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >
> >Look in /etc/rc.d/serial
> >then find the entry that corresponds to your serial port  tack "spd_vhi"
> >on the end.
> >like mine below.
> >
> > ${SETSERIAL} /dev/cua1 uart 16550A port 0x2F8 irq 3 spd_vhi.
> >
> >John Weekley
> >(In St. Charles!:)
>
> John,
>
> Thanks very much.  I'll never say another bad word about St. Charles.
> :--)
>
> Bill
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  You weren't the 1st and you won't be the last :) Anytime, Bill.
John


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From dana@ntd.net Tue Apr 21 00:37:11 1998
From: dana@ntd.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Problems with Wabi 2.2
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:37:11 -0500
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Marius Augenstein wrote:

> Hy there
>
> I bought Wabi for Linux to run Word in it. After the installation I got
> problems with the current color depth. I'm using a default depth of 16 bit.
> When wabi starts the only result is that I'm get the message:
>
> X Server has unsupported default depth
> Unrecoverable Error in Wabi
>
> Unsupported display depth 16 in init_gdi.
>
> Wabi will exit now.
>
> I tried it with using 8 bit as the default depth and it works. Is there
> a possibility which enables wabi to work under 16 bit color depth ??
> A special switch or sth.

You're stuck with 8 bit color.  You should check out Michaels web site
at http://=
eunuchs.org/> , he has some good info on wabi.

Dana


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From alfiesty@chaffee.net Tue Apr 21 01:50:33 1998
From: alfiesty@chaffee.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Tkman in SuSe 5.1
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:50:33 -0600
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I am still learning Linux. I have fvwm95 running fairly well and am trying
various programs on the 5.1 disk set. I started TkDesk and then Tkman. When
Tkman came up it said that it was updating the database. 26 HOURS later it
was still not done! At that time according to the little performance
monitor it was using 100
I hear all this talk about how much faster Linux is than W95, but I have
NEVER has a process take 26 hours on any W95 machine I have. The box in
question is a Cyrix NX586-90 with 32M, 64M swap and a HP 1.3Gig HD. What
was it doing for 26 hours?
Jim


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From jkrough@mindspring.com Tue Apr 21 04:07:11 1998
From: jkrough@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] LS-120; Linux -vs- win(?)95
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 23:07:11 -0500
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An interesting bit of info for LS-120 users or those who are considering
purchasing one.  I have discovered that my LS-120 drive is up to 10X
faster at certain tasks then win(?)95.  I was really surprised at the
degree to which the drive was faster under Linux.  I had been completely
disappointed with the performance under win(?)95 and was considering
dumping the drive altogether.  I wrote a 10MB file to the LS-120 4X
under Linux 4X faster then it took to read a 4MB file from the LS-120
and copy it to the hard drive.

I have one question.  I was reading an article on ziff davis's web site
and I have been wondering, is an "enterprise" server the ship that
supplies Captain Kirk with tarts?

Jerome K.


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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Tue Apr 21 04:13:27 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] make zdisk error
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 00:13:27 -0400
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I just got my 5.2 and have installed it.  I would like to customize the
kernel to my needs.  I used "make xconfig" to configure my kernel.  I
then attempted to compile with "make def zImage xdisk".   (I boot from
floppy.)  The following error comes form the "zdisk" part of the "make"
.  Does anybody understand what is going on here?

TIA,

Steve

make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/lib'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/lib'
make[1]: Entering directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/kernel'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/kernel'
make[1]: Entering directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/mm'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/mm'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/mm'
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/mm'
make[1]: Entering directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/lib'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/lib'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/lib'
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/lib'
ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x100000 -e stext arch/i386/kernel/head.o
init/main.o init/version.o \
        arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o arch/i386/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o
mm/mm.o fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o
net/network.a \
        fs/filesystems.a \
        drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/net/net.a
drivers/cdrom/cdrom.a driv
ers/sound/sound.a drivers/pci/pci.a \
        /usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/lib/lib.a
/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/
lib/lib.a /usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/lib/lib.a -o
vmlinux
nm vmlinux | grep -v '\(compiled\)\|\(\.o$\)\|\( a \)' | sort >
System.map
make[1]: Entering directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/boot'
make[2]: Entering directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/boot/compressed'
tmppiggy=/tmp/$$piggy; \
rm -f $tmppiggy $tmppiggy.gz $tmppiggy.lnk; \
if hash encaps 2> /dev/null; then \
  objdump -k -q  -o 0x100000 /usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/vmlinux >
$tmppiggy; \
else \
  objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -R .stab -R .stabstr
/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3
/vmlinux $tmppiggy; \
fi; \
gzip -f -9 < $tmppiggy > $tmppiggy.gz; \
if hash encaps 2> /dev/null; then \
  encaps --target elf32-i386 piggy.o $tmppiggy.gz input_data input_len;
\
else \
  echo "SECTIONS { .data : { input_len = .; LONG(input_data_end -
input_data) input_data = .;
*(.data) input_data_end = .; }}" > $tmppiggy.lnk; \
  ld -m elf_i386 -m elf_i386 -r -o piggy.o -b binary $tmppiggy.gz -b
elf32-i386 -T $tmppiggy.l
nk; \
fi; \
rm -f $tmppiggy $tmppiggy.gz $tmppiggy.lnk
objdump: illegal option -- k
Usage: objdump [-ahifCdDprRtTxsSlw] [-b bfdname] [-m machine] [-j
section-name]
       [--archive-headers] [--target=bfdname] [--debugging]
[--disassemble]
       [--disassemble-all] [--disassemble-zeroes] [--file-headers]
       [--section-headers] [--headers]
       [--info] [--section=section-name] [--line-numbers] [--source]
       [--architecture=machine] [--reloc] [--full-contents] [--stabs]
       [--syms] [--all-headers] [--dynamic-syms] [--dynamic-reloc]
       [--wide] [--version] [--help] [--private-headers]
       [--start-address=addr] [--stop-address=addr]
       [--prefix-addresses] [--[no-]show-raw-insn] [--demangle]
       [--adjust-vma=offset] [-EB|-EL] [--endian={big|little}]
objfile...
at least one option besides -l (--line-numbers) must be given
objdump: supported targets: elf32-i386 a.out-i386-linux srec symbolsrec
tekhex binary ihex tra
d-core
ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x1000 -e startup_32  -o vmlinux head.o misc.o
piggy.o
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/boot/compressed'
if hash encaps 2> /dev/null; then \
  objdump -k -q  -o 0x1000 compressed/vmlinux > compressed/vmlinux.out;
\
else \
  objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -R .stab -R .stabstr
compressed/vmlinux compressed/vm
linux.out; \
fi
objdump: illegal option -- k
Usage: objdump [-ahifCdDprRtTxsSlw] [-b bfdname] [-m machine] [-j
section-name]
       [--archive-headers] [--target=bfdname] [--debugging]
[--disassemble]
       [--disassemble-all] [--disassemble-zeroes] [--file-headers]
       [--section-headers] [--headers]
       [--info] [--section=section-name] [--line-numbers] [--source]
       [--architecture=machine] [--reloc] [--full-contents] [--stabs]
       [--syms] [--all-headers] [--dynamic-syms] [--dynamic-reloc]
       [--wide] [--version] [--help] [--private-headers]
       [--start-address=addr] [--stop-address=addr]
       [--prefix-addresses] [--[no-]show-raw-insn] [--demangle]
       [--adjust-vma=offset] [-EB|-EL] [--endian={big|little}]
objfile...
at least one option besides -l (--line-numbers) must be given
objdump: supported targets: elf32-i386 a.out-i386-linux srec symbolsrec
tekhex binary ihex tra
d-core
make[1]: *** [zImage] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/boot'
make: *** [zdisk] Error 2


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From arnulf@geo.uni-bonn.de Tue Apr 21 06:13:13 1998
From: arnulf@geo.uni-bonn.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] info dir
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:13:13 +0200
Message-ID: <199804210613.IAA00272@arka.forst.koeln.de>
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> 
> Hey Y'all
> I've got the ftape info files installed in /usr/info, but
> thay don't show up
> in the info dir file. I was jus gonna stick 'em in there but
> the file says
> "auto-configured by SuSE. do not edit" SO I was wondering
> how i can add things 
> to the auto-config of my info dir.
> -- 
> yours,
> Andy

Hi!
As far as I know, and I presume you didn't install ftape with yast!,
you have to run mkinfodir, and thats all.
yast runs it itself when info-dir was changed.
and puts this message in, auto-conf.....
You could probalby run yast and do some changes that aren't real changes,
so that it call suseconfig and it will execute mkinfodir.

arnulf


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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Tue Apr 21 08:24:58 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Yast FTP error message
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:24:58 +0200
Message-ID: <01bd6cfe$f8dfc730$36320a0a@rubis.inpres.epl.prov-liege.be>
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You need the source of cat !?!
Well, from scratch...

#include 
main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
 FILE *f;
 static char buf[1024];
 if (!argv[1]) return 1;
 f =3D fopen(argv[1], "r");
 if (!f) return 1;
 while (fgets(buf, 1024, f))
 { puts(buf); }
 fclose(f);
 return 0;
}

Not too complicated, isn't it ?
;-)

Just a joke...
Take a look at the source packages, base package... should be around there

Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: The Gecko 
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date: samedi 18 avril 1998 01:16
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Yast FTP error message

>
>Where would I... or would I... find the source code to some of the most
basic
>of utilities... such as cat and ls?  (particularly cat)
>
>----------------------------------
>http://homepages.skylink.net/~ge=
cko/index.html>
>-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
>Version: 3.1
>GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K-
w+++$(--)
>O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++
> DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+
>------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
>----------------------------------
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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Tue Apr 21 08:27:29 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] permissions
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:27:29 +0200
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You can make them use a _restricted_ shell (rbash instead of bash) - take a
look at "man bash", in "RESTRICTED SHELL" : the users are set chroot, so
they can't get "higher" than they're home, but you have to provide a /bin,
etc... for every single one of these users !

Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Clark 
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date: samedi 18 avril 1998 02:04
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] permissions

>
>Does anyone know how to limit a user's ability to navigate the file system.
I know that
>FTP automatically creates a false root so that an anonymous FTP connection
cannot get
>below that directory.  I would like to be able to allow certain users a
login and rights
>to their home directory ONLY!!  I have set very restrictive rights, only to
get numerous
>errors upon login.  Even with these restrictive permissions the user can
look around if
>they know UN*X filesystems.
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>mc
>
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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Tue Apr 21 08:32:34 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] make zdisk error
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 04:32:34 -0400
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I stand corrected on this.  It seems that I also have the problem with
"make dep zImage".  Between this and a problem that looks like a drive
geometry problem I am not finding this upgrade to be an easy row to hoe.

Steve

Steven T. Hatton wrote:

> I just got my 5.2 and have installed it.  I would like to customize the
> kernel to my needs.  I used "make xconfig" to configure my kernel.  I
> then attempted to compile with "make def zImage xdisk".   (I boot from
> floppy.)  The following error comes form the "zdisk" part of the "make"
> .  Does anybody understand what is going on here?
>
> TIA,
>
> Steve
>
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/lib'
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/lib'
> make[1]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/kernel'
> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/kernel'
> make[1]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/mm'
> make all_targets
> make[2]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/mm'
> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/mm'
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/mm'
> make[1]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/lib'
> make all_targets
> make[2]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/lib'
> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/lib'
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/lib'
> ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x100000 -e stext arch/i386/kernel/head.o
> init/main.o init/version.o \
>         arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o arch/i386/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o
> mm/mm.o fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o
> net/network.a \
>         fs/filesystems.a \
>         drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/net/net.a
> drivers/cdrom/cdrom.a driv
> ers/sound/sound.a drivers/pci/pci.a \
>         /usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/lib/lib.a
> /usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/
> lib/lib.a /usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/lib/lib.a -o
> vmlinux
> nm vmlinux | grep -v '\(compiled\)\|\(\.o$\)\|\( a \)' | sort >
> System.map
> make[1]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/boot'
> make[2]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/boot/compressed'
> tmppiggy=/tmp/$$piggy; \
> rm -f $tmppiggy $tmppiggy.gz $tmppiggy.lnk; \
> if hash encaps 2> /dev/null; then \
>   objdump -k -q  -o 0x100000 /usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/vmlinux >
> $tmppiggy; \
> else \
>   objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -R .stab -R .stabstr
> /usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3
> /vmlinux $tmppiggy; \
> fi; \
> gzip -f -9 < $tmppiggy > $tmppiggy.gz; \
> if hash encaps 2> /dev/null; then \
>   encaps --target elf32-i386 piggy.o $tmppiggy.gz input_data input_len;
> \
> else \
>   echo "SECTIONS { .data : { input_len = .; LONG(input_data_end -
> input_data) input_data = .;
> *(.data) input_data_end = .; }}" > $tmppiggy.lnk; \
>   ld -m elf_i386 -m elf_i386 -r -o piggy.o -b binary $tmppiggy.gz -b
> elf32-i386 -T $tmppiggy.l
> nk; \
> fi; \
> rm -f $tmppiggy $tmppiggy.gz $tmppiggy.lnk
> objdump: illegal option -- k
> Usage: objdump [-ahifCdDprRtTxsSlw] [-b bfdname] [-m machine] [-j
> section-name]
>        [--archive-headers] [--target=bfdname] [--debugging]
> [--disassemble]
>        [--disassemble-all] [--disassemble-zeroes] [--file-headers]
>        [--section-headers] [--headers]
>        [--info] [--section=section-name] [--line-numbers] [--source]
>        [--architecture=machine] [--reloc] [--full-contents] [--stabs]
>        [--syms] [--all-headers] [--dynamic-syms] [--dynamic-reloc]
>        [--wide] [--version] [--help] [--private-headers]
>        [--start-address=addr] [--stop-address=addr]
>        [--prefix-addresses] [--[no-]show-raw-insn] [--demangle]
>        [--adjust-vma=offset] [-EB|-EL] [--endian={big|little}]
> objfile...
> at least one option besides -l (--line-numbers) must be given
> objdump: supported targets: elf32-i386 a.out-i386-linux srec symbolsrec
> tekhex binary ihex tra
> d-core
> ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x1000 -e startup_32  -o vmlinux head.o misc.o
> piggy.o
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/boot/compressed'
> if hash encaps 2> /dev/null; then \
>   objdump -k -q  -o 0x1000 compressed/vmlinux > compressed/vmlinux.out;
> \
> else \
>   objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -R .stab -R .stabstr
> compressed/vmlinux compressed/vm
> linux.out; \
> fi
> objdump: illegal option -- k
> Usage: objdump [-ahifCdDprRtTxsSlw] [-b bfdname] [-m machine] [-j
> section-name]
>        [--archive-headers] [--target=bfdname] [--debugging]
> [--disassemble]
>        [--disassemble-all] [--disassemble-zeroes] [--file-headers]
>        [--section-headers] [--headers]
>        [--info] [--section=section-name] [--line-numbers] [--source]
>        [--architecture=machine] [--reloc] [--full-contents] [--stabs]
>        [--syms] [--all-headers] [--dynamic-syms] [--dynamic-reloc]
>        [--wide] [--version] [--help] [--private-headers]
>        [--start-address=addr] [--stop-address=addr]
>        [--prefix-addresses] [--[no-]show-raw-insn] [--demangle]
>        [--adjust-vma=offset] [-EB|-EL] [--endian={big|little}]
> objfile...
> at least one option besides -l (--line-numbers) must be given
> objdump: supported targets: elf32-i386 a.out-i386-linux srec symbolsrec
> tekhex binary ihex tra
> d-core
> make[1]: *** [zImage] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/arch/i386/boot'
> make: *** [zdisk] Error 2
>
> --
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From mantel@suse.de Tue Apr 21 10:28:27 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: make zdisk error
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:28:27 +0200
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Hi,

On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote:

> I just got my 5.2 and have installed it.  I would like to customize the

Well, I assume you updated from an earlier release?

> kernel to my needs.  I used "make xconfig" to configure my kernel.  I
> then attempted to compile with "make def zImage xdisk".   (I boot from
> floppy.)  The following error comes form the "zdisk" part of the "make"
> .  Does anybody understand what is going on here?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Steve

[...]

> objdump: illegal option -- k

With older versions of the binutils the -k option had to been passed to
objdump. Newer versions of the binutils don't need this option. In fact
they do not even recognize it. The kernel Makefile decides which version
you have depending on the existance of /usr/bin/encaps. So if you do an
update from an older revision and /usr/bin/encaps is not deleted, objdump
is called with wrong/old parameters.

So the simple solution to your problem is: "rm /usr/bin/encaps"

    Hubert


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From debarros@bicc.uni-bonn.de Tue Apr 21 13:10:28 1998
From: debarros@bicc.uni-bonn.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] lpr & suid
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:10:28 +0000
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Hi,

i'm getting this message every time when i try to print. 

>a2ps -Plp4  test
[t: 1 page on 1 sheet]
[Total: 1 page on 1 sheet]
Apr 21 13:11:25 bonbon lpr lp4: change-euid failed (fs mounted with -nosuid
option?): 'Operation not permitted Broken pipe

It seems that the /var FS doesn't allow
suid, what is not true. Hre is the mount table line for var :
/dev/sda3       /var      ext2            defaults   1   2

Does someone knows why lpr needs to change the uid and what can i do to force
the mounted  FS to accept suid ?

Greetings,

Jose Eduardo 

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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Tue Apr 21 15:10:47 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: make zdisk error
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:10:47 -0400
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Hubert,

Thank you.  That got me through my first hurdle.  I would have spent years
trying to figure that one out!  I do have another problem though.  I now
realize why I was confused about where I was getting the error from.
Apparently I was getting two errors.  This is the second:

Gucci -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/include -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe
-m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686  -c -o
sb_common.o sb_common.c
sb_common.c:21: #error You will need to configure the sound driver with
CONFIG_AUDIO option.
make[2]: *** [sb_common.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers/sound'
make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers'
make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
Lakshmana:/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE #

I only get this one when I try to compile with a soudblaster pro
configured.  Does this one mean anything to you?

Hubert Mantel wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
>
> > I just got my 5.2 and have installed it.  I would like to customize the
>
> Well, I assume you updated from an earlier release?
>
> > kernel to my needs.  I used "make xconfig" to configure my kernel.  I
> > then attempted to compile with "make def zImage xdisk".   (I boot from
> > floppy.)  The following error comes form the "zdisk" part of the "make"
> > .  Does anybody understand what is going on here?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Steve
>
> [...]
>
> > objdump: illegal option -- k
>
> With older versions of the binutils the -k option had to been passed to
> objdump. Newer versions of the binutils don't need this option. In fact
> they do not even recognize it. The kernel Makefile decides which version
> you have depending on the existance of /usr/bin/encaps. So if you do an
> update from an older revision and /usr/bin/encaps is not deleted, objdump
> is called with wrong/old parameters.
>
> So the simple solution to your problem is: "rm /usr/bin/encaps"
>
>     Hubert
>
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From mantel@suse.de Tue Apr 21 16:45:42 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: make zdisk error
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:45:42 +0200
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Hi,

On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote:

> Hubert,
> 
> Thank you.  That got me through my first hurdle.  I would have spent years
> trying to figure that one out!  I do have another problem though.  I now
> realize why I was confused about where I was getting the error from.
> Apparently I was getting two errors.  This is the second:
> 
> Gucci -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/include -Wall
> -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe
> -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686  -c -o
> sb_common.o sb_common.c
> sb_common.c:21: #error You will need to configure the sound driver with
> CONFIG_AUDIO option.
> make[2]: *** [sb_common.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers/sound'
> make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers'
> make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
> Lakshmana:/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE #
> 
> I only get this one when I try to compile with a soudblaster pro
> configured.  Does this one mean anything to you?

Answer the question '/dev/dsp and /dev/audio support' with "Yes".

    Hubert


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From gecko@benham.net Tue Apr 21 17:27:56 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Yast FTP error message
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:27:56 -0700
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The person I was asking for wanted all the options that come with CAT.. why, I
don't know.  I havn't used them since... well... yet.   He was going to port
the whole shtuff over to Dos.  I finially found it in TEXTUTILS.

On 21-Apr-98 Pascal Bleser wrote:
>=20
> You need the source of cat !?!
> Well, from scratch...
>=20
> Just a joke...
> Take a look at the source packages, base package... should be around there
>=20
> Pascal

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From weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de Tue Apr 21 17:41:23 1998
From: weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] xwindows
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:41:23 +0200
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Hi!

Trying to kill the keyboard, roberto(a)cbvcp.com produced:
> 
> When I try to start x (command=startx), it gives me an error that two
> directories are missing, one under var and the other under user.  i have

Which ones?  
Without exact error messages it's kind of hard to do mindreading, not
to mention fixing problems.

> reinstalled suse many times today and i am at my wits end.  when i go
> into xf86 setup under YaST, it tells me that i have not setup an svga
> server under /usr/X11R6/bin/svga .  Do i need to do this and what will
> enable me to use x?  

XF86Setup is actually running under X. It uses a simple X server that
works almost everywhere but is not powerful at all. Since you happen to
be able to run XF86Setup this one (xvga16) is installed. You stumble
over the problem when you want XF86setup to use the SVGA server later
on (lucky you that I did play with that recently, you should have told
me; making me guess things is ... not really helpful and polite).

Now, yast and the package description will already have told you that
you have to install the X server you intend to use BEFORE installing
(xsvga in that case) and so please DO install it. THEN run XF86Setup.
And then it should work.

(Reason: you don't want to be stuck with a slow server and 16 colours,
you want all the power your card has. That means we need a more
specialized server. To configure it it must be there, so ...)

> all of my hardware is supported.

Mind telling us which graphics card that is? My mindreading IS bad
today.

-Wolfgang (who hates incomplete error messages ... 
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From suse@wavenet.it Tue Apr 21 19:58:54 1998
From: suse@wavenet.it
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] C-News problem
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:58:54 +0200
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Excuse me for sending twice the same thing, but my provider lost my mail
so I don' t know if you replied me. If so, please, resend you answer.

I' m trying to configure C-News and Suck to download articles from a
remote host and browse them offline with Tin but I have many problems.
When i try to make a "sucknewsrc" typing "suck -A -hl localhost" from
root, I get the following:

Attempting to connect to localhost
Using Port 119
Official host name: localhost
Alias Voyager
Address: 127.0.0.1
Connected to localhost
200 Voyager NNTP[auth] server version 1.5.12.1 (1 Jan 1995) ready at Sat
Apr 18 23:21:45 1998 (posting ok).
Loading active file from localhost
No sucknewsrc to read, creating
Adding new groups from local active file to sucknewsrc
New Group - adding to sucknewsrc: control
New Group - adding to sucknewsrc: junk
New Group - adding to sucknewsrc: news.announce.newusers
New Group - adding to sucknewsrc: it.comp.linux
Elapsed Time = 0 mins 0.23 seconds
0 Articles to download
No articles
Closed connection to localhost

After this, I go to /var/lib/suck/ but sucknewsrc was not found nor read
nor updated (as you see above) and no other "sucknewsrc" has been created. 
The only thing it writes is a "suck.newrc" in the directory from where I
typed the command above. So I' ve edited /var/lib/suck/sucknewsrc by hand
entering newsgroup names by hand but suck does not seem to find it.

What did I miss? Do I have to run all suck processes as user news staying
in directory /var/lib/suck? Which command do I have to type to start news
downloading? "/var/lib/suck/get.news.rnews"? As user news?

I' ve edited /var/lib/suck/get.news.rnews but what should I write in
"BASEDIR=         # base directory for suck rpost and scripts"??
Suck executable is in /usr/bin
Rpost is in /usr/bin
Scripts... which scripts? I' ve put get.news.rnews and other things in
/usr/lib/suck. Which value should I write?

Lastly I tried to run "suck -A -hl localhost" in /var/lib/suck/ as user
news and I got the following:

news(a)Voyager:/var/lib/suck > suck -A -hl localhost
/var/lib/suck/cola: No such file or directory
Attempting to connect to localhost
Using Port 119
Official host name: localhost
Alias Voyager
Address: 127.0.0.1
Connected to localhost
200 Voyager NNTP[auth] server version 1.5.12.1 (1 Jan 1995) ready at Sun
Apr 19 00:29:59 1998 (posting ok).
Loading active file from localhost
Reading current sucknewsrc
Adding new groups from local active file to sucknewsrc
New Group - adding to sucknewsrc: control
New Group - adding to sucknewsrc: junk
Elapsed Time = 0 mins 0.23 seconds
0 Articles to download
Processing Supplemental List
Supplemental List Processed, 1 articles added, 1 articles to download
Deduping Elapsed Time = 0 mins 0.00 seconds
Deduped, 1 items remaining, 0 dupes removed.
Processing History File Elapsed Time = 0 mins 0.00 seconds
Processed history, 0 dupes removed
Total articles to download: 1
***Unexpected response to command, head


430 No article by message-id
, sorry.

89 Bytes received in 0 mins 0.09 secs, BPS = 1022.1
Closed connection to localhost

Again, sucknewsrc is not modified even permissions would allow it.
What' s "/var/lib/suck/cola"? As I' ve never tried to download news from
remote hosts, what' s that
"cola-liw-809989529-6999-1(a)oravannahka.helsinki.fi"?

/var/log/suck.errlog is empty.

In /var/log/news I get the following error:
Apr 19 00:54:00 localhost nntpd[21231]: list: fopen 
/var/lib/news/newsgroups: No such file or directory
What can I do?

I' ve already read man pages and I' m more confused than before...

Please, help me.

Thanks in advance.


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From mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com Tue Apr 21 20:59:53 1998
From: mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] permissions -- RBASH missing
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:59:53 -0600
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I have looked at the documentation for RBASH, and it looks like exactly what I
need.  The only problem is, I don't have RBASH on my system.  If I start a ba=
sh
shell, then type 'bash -r' I get the restricted shell.  How do I create/find
RBASH????  I have tried aliases and links to no avail.

thanks

mc

Pascal Bleser wrote:

> You can make them use a _restricted_ shell (rbash instead of bash) - take a
> look at "man bash", in "RESTRICTED SHELL" : the users are set chroot, so
> they can't get "higher" than they're home, but you have to provide a /bin,
> etc... for every single one of these users !
>
> Pascal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Clark 
> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
> Date: samedi 18 avril 1998 02:04
> Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] permissions
>
> >
> >Does anyone know how to limit a user's ability to navigate the file system.
> I know that
> >FTP automatically creates a false root so that an anonymous FTP connection
> cannot get
> >below that directory.  I would like to be able to allow certain users a
> login and rights
> >to their home directory ONLY!!  I have set very restrictive rights, only to
> get numerous
> >errors upon login.  Even with these restrictive permissions the user can
> look around if
> >they know UN*X filesystems.
> >
> >Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> >mc
> >
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From gecko@benham.net Tue Apr 21 21:15:04 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] C-News problem
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:15:04 -0700
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On 21-Apr-98 Simone Castellaneta wrote:
> I' m trying to configure C-News and Suck to download articles from a
> remote host and browse them offline with Tin but I have many problems.
> When i try to make a "sucknewsrc" typing "suck -A -hl localhost" from
> root, I get the following:

I'm still trying to set up suck myself... but your newsfeed doesnt'c ome from
localhost and that's where SUCK is saying it's connecting to to get it's mail
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From jdkc@woptura.com Tue Apr 21 21:16:07 1998
From: jdkc@woptura.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:16:07 -0500
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Here is the last part of my  after I compiled
my kernel.

What did I do wrong?  I only have sound on Tkdesk, and
"workman".

>  align-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586  -c -o
> uart401.o uart401.c
> gcc -D__KERNEL__
> -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/include -Wall
> -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
> -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=2
> -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586  -c -o
> soundcard.o soundcard.c
> gcc -D__KERNEL__
> -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/include -Wall
> -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
> -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=2
> -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586  -c -o
> dev_table.o dev_table.c
> gcc -D__KERNEL__
> -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/include -Wall
> -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
> -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=2
> -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586  -c -o
> sound_switch.o sound_switch.c
> sound_switch.c: In function `init_status':
> sound_switch.c:97: parse error before `SOUND_CONFIG_DATE'
> make[2]: *** [sound_switch.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/drivers/sound'
> make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/drivers'
> make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
> jdkc:/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3 #
>

  "Ich trank, was !!??"
                 Socrates


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From slk@grace.acm.rpi.edu Tue Apr 21 23:03:04 1998
From: slk@grace.acm.rpi.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Linux databases with OS/2 or Java clients
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:03:04 -0400
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Does anybody know of a Linux database (really needs to have
commercial support) with either Java or OS/2 clients?

I know Adabas won't have a full java client until (I've been
told) 1Q99 or so, and the Informix port is still mainly a rumor.=20
(and wouldn't be ready until at least then anyway)

Do the Adabas windows clients (from experience) run well under
Win-OS2 (preferably both Warp 3 and 4, though just Warp 4 would
be okay too)

Another option would possibly be DB2 for SCO running under iBCS...
has anybody had success (or failure) with this? I'm not sure I like
the idea too much though, especially if they (later) only support
Unixware (or whatever the latest iteration from SCO is called)

Cost is not a major issue, but stability and either OS/2 or Java
clients is.

Thanks,
Simon


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From braden@shadow.net Tue Apr 21 23:25:35 1998
From: braden@shadow.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:25:35 -0400
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After throwing up my hands at Red Hat 5 (CD didn't have the drivers to
recognize the AIC-7895 on this motherboard), I have ordered the latest SuSE
distribution with high hopes. Here is the setup:

Intel DK440LX, 9 GB SCSI hard disc, SCSI CD-ROM drive

The first 4 GB of the drive are currently an NTFS partition on which I have
installed Windows NT. The rest of the disc is where I plan to install Linux.
I have a few questions before I dive into this...

Can anyone tell me with certainty if the 5.2 distribution will recognize my
SCSI controller? Will I be able to boot from the CD to install?

Will the kernel that ships with 5.2 mount an NTFS partition? I'd really
perfer not to create any extraneous FAT partition just to get the thing
working right--will I be able to avoid that? What sort of incantations will
I have to perform to get multiple boot between the two OSes working?

I'm also using a Permedia2-based graphics card (this is another thing that
pushed me toward SuSE)... Anything I should know about setting up the X
server for this board (specifically, it's a Hercules Dynamite 3D/GL)?

Prismatic Booger
Braden N. McDaniel, braden(a)shadow.net
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From gecko@benham.net Tue Apr 21 23:42:29 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:42:29 -0700
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Linux Kernel 2.0.33 (soon or even 34) doesn't officially support NTFS yet...
you'd have to search for a patch and hope it works.

On 21-Apr-98 Braden N. McDaniel wrote:
> Will the kernel that ships with 5.2 mount an NTFS partition? I'd really
> perfer not to create any extraneous FAT partition just to get the thing
> working right--will I be able to avoid that? What sort of incantations will
> I have to perform to get multiple boot between the two OSes working?

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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Wed Apr 22 00:03:36 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] permissions -- RBASH missing
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:03:36 -0700
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>=20
> I have looked at the documentation for RBASH, and it looks like
> exactly what I need.  The only problem is, I don't have RBASH on my
> system.  If I start a bash shell, then type 'bash -r' I get the
> restricted shell.  How do I create/find RBASH????  I have tried
> aliases and links to no avail.

This really depends upon how bash is built/what version of bash, but the
version SuSE ships with supports the sensible way to do it, links.

Simply make a symbolic link - rbash - that points at bash:

u

cd /bin
ln -s bash rbash
exit

   add it to the file /etc/shells.in

u

echo "/bin/rbash" >>/etc/shells.in
exit

   configure your users to the shell /bin/rbash using YaST, and you're
set.

-josh

> Pascal Bleser wrote:
>=20
> > You can make them use a _restricted_ shell (rbash instead of bash) - take=
 a
> > look at "man bash", in "RESTRICTED SHELL" : the users are set chroot, so
> > they can't get "higher" than they're home, but you have to provide a /bin,
> > etc... for every single one of these users !
> >
> > Pascal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Clark 
> > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
> > Date: samedi 18 avril 1998 02:04
> > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] permissions
> >
> > >
> > >Does anyone know how to limit a user's ability to navigate the file syst=
em.
> > I know that
> > >FTP automatically creates a false root so that an anonymous FTP connecti=
on
> > cannot get
> > >below that directory.  I would like to be able to allow certain users a
> > login and rights
> > >to their home directory ONLY!!  I have set very restrictive rights, only=
 to
> > get numerous
> > >errors upon login.  Even with these restrictive permissions the user can
> > look around if
> > >they know UN*X filesystems.
> > >
> > >Any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > >mc
> > >
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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Wed Apr 22 00:38:22 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:38:22 -0700
Message-ID: <199804220038.RAA14877@skaro.nightcrawler.com>
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> > Linux Kernel 2.0.33 (soon or even 34) doesn't officially support
> > NTFS yet...
> > you'd have to search for a patch and hope it works.
> 
> Okay... But does this mean I must have a FAT partition or not? Just not
> being able to mount the NT partition isn't the end of the world. My main
> question here is: can I successfully install and run Linux on the remaining
> disc space while maintaining access to my NT installation?

Yes, SuSE will isntall direct from the provided CD media. 
It will need its own partition of course (well.. you CAN use umsdos, but
you shouldn't.. =)

It will not be upset by the presence of NT on the disk.  Booting is a
little tricky, but there is a howto on co-booting the two operating
systems.

-josh

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From braden@shadow.net Wed Apr 22 01:04:31 1998
From: braden@shadow.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:04:31 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On
> Behalf Of gecko(a)benham.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 7:42 PM
> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
>
>
>
> Linux Kernel 2.0.33 (soon or even 34) doesn't officially support
> NTFS yet...
> you'd have to search for a patch and hope it works.

Okay... But does this mean I must have a FAT partition or not? Just not
being able to mount the NT partition isn't the end of the world. My main
question here is: can I successfully install and run Linux on the remaining
disc space while maintaining access to my NT installation?

Prismatic Booger
Braden N. McDaniel, braden(a)shadow.net
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From gecko@benham.net Wed Apr 22 01:31:54 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:31:54 -0700
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On 22-Apr-98 Braden N. McDaniel wrote:
> Okay... But does this mean I must have a FAT partition or not? Just not
> being able to mount the NT partition isn't the end of the world. My main
> question here is: can I successfully install and run Linux on the remaining
> disc space while maintaining access to my NT installation?

Try /usr/doc/howto/mini/Linxu+NT-Loader

This is a howto file but I don't know enough about NT to understand it fully.=
=20
I believe the answer is a qualified-yes.  It's something about leaving the MBR
intact.  If you don't have access to the file, send me a private email and I'=
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From dana@ntd.net Wed Apr 22 02:16:24 1998
From: dana@ntd.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:16:24 -0500
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Braden N. McDaniel wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On
> > Behalf Of gecko(a)benham.net
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 7:42 PM
> > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> > Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
> >
> >
> >
> > Linux Kernel 2.0.33 (soon or even 34) doesn't officially support
> > NTFS yet...
> > you'd have to search for a patch and hope it works.
>
> Okay... But does this mean I must have a FAT partition or not? Just not
> being able to mount the NT partition isn't the end of the world. My main
> question here is: can I successfully install and run Linux on the remaining
> disc space while maintaining access to my NT installation?

You don't need a FAT partition.  To install Linux on a system with NT
already installed, my first suggestion would be to have a current NT
emergency boot floppies.  Then read the FAQ for Win NT and Linux.
(sorry for lack of details, I'm tired after cruising around Comdex all
day..)   Nice booth S.u.S.E.!!

Dana


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From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Wed Apr 22 03:21:56 1998
From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Linux Proxy Server Authorization
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 22:21:56 -0500
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Hello Everyone:-)

I finally succeeded in getting my network running between Win95 and
Linux:-)  Now, I want to be able to access the internet from the Win95
machine via my Linux Box.  (My Linux Box is the only machine that has an
outside connection).  I have set up the Win95 Box to access the internet
via a "proxy server" with the address for my Linux Box as the "Proxy
server".  But, when I try to make the connection, I get a big display
saying that I am not authorized to access whatever site thru this
server.

Question, What all is involved in setting the Linux Box up as a proxy
server?

I'd appreciate any hints and pointers that could help in getting this
little problem solved:-)

Thanx Loads!


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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Wed Apr 22 03:49:25 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: make zdisk error
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 23:49:25 -0400
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Hubert,

Thank you, that worked.

Steve

 

Hubert Mantel wrote:

Hi,

On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote:

> Hubert,

>

> Thank you.  That got me through my first hurdle.  I would
have spent years

> trying to figure that one out!  I do have another problem though. 
I now

> realize why I was confused about where I was getting the error from.

> Apparently I was getting two errors.  This is the second:

>

> Gucci -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/include -Wall

> -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce
-pipe

> -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686 
-c -o

> sb_common.o sb_common.c

> sb_common.c:21: #error You will need to configure the sound driver
with

> CONFIG_AUDIO option.

> make[2]: *** [sb_common.o] Error 1

> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers/sound'

> make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2

> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers'

> make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2

> Lakshmana:/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE #

>

> I only get this one when I try to compile with a soudblaster pro

> configured.  Does this one mean anything to you?

Answer the question '/dev/dsp and /dev/audio support' with "Yes".

    Hubert

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From morche@sat1.de Wed Apr 22 09:39:04 1998
From: morche@sat1.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] permissions -- RBASH missing
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:39:04 +0200
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Michael Clark wrote:
>=20
> I have looked at the documentation for RBASH, and it looks like exactly wha=
t I
> need.  The only problem is, I don't have RBASH on my system.  If I start a =
bash
> shell, then type 'bash -r' I get the restricted shell.  How do I create/find
> RBASH????  I have tried aliases and links to no avail.
...
cd /bin
ln -s bash rbash
8-)

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From mantel@suse.de Wed Apr 22 11:59:09 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:59:09 +0200
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Hi,

On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Braden N. McDaniel wrote:

> After throwing up my hands at Red Hat 5 (CD didn't have the drivers to
> recognize the AIC-7895 on this motherboard), I have ordered the latest SuSE
> distribution with high hopes. Here is the setup:
>=20
> Intel DK440LX, 9 GB SCSI hard disc, SCSI CD-ROM drive
>=20
> The first 4 GB of the drive are currently an NTFS partition on which I have
> installed Windows NT. The rest of the disc is where I plan to install Linux.
> I have a few questions before I dive into this...
>=20
> Can anyone tell me with certainty if the 5.2 distribution will recognize my
> SCSI controller? Will I be able to boot from the CD to install?

Yes. We are using a newer version of the aic7xxx driver which can handle
the aic7895. It is able to boot from CD.

> Will the kernel that ships with 5.2 mount an NTFS partition? I'd really
> perfer not to create any extraneous FAT partition just to get the thing
> working right--will I be able to avoid that? What sort of incantations will
> I have to perform to get multiple boot between the two OSes working?

The official kernel doesn't yet support NTFS. There is a readonly
experimental driver on the CD. If you want to use it, you'll have to patch
and recompile your kernel.

> I'm also using a Permedia2-based graphics card (this is another thing that
> pushed me toward SuSE)... Anything I should know about setting up the X
> server for this board (specifically, it's a Hercules Dynamite 3D/GL)?

> Prismatic Booger
> Braden N. McDaniel, braden(a)shadow.net
> <http://www.shadow.net/0.000000E+00braden=
/>>

    Hubert


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From suse@wavenet.it Wed Apr 22 13:36:57 1998
From: suse@wavenet.it
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Question about kernel options and GTK
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:36:57 +0200
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I would like to know which options were set (Yes-No-Module) when people at
S.u.S.E. compiled the kernel (2.0.33 - no SCSI) packaged with SuSE 5.1 
distribution.

I would like to compile an application that requires GTK 1.0.
Unfortunately, SuSE 5.1 installs GTK 0.97 so I downloaded and compiled
successfully GTK 1.0 but when I tried to remove my old GTK, I got an error
saying that libgtk.so.1, libglib.so.1 and libgdk.so.1 are needed by
gimp-0.99.15-4.
If I force GTK 0.97 removal, and install GTK 1.0, would GIMP complain
about the new libraries or not?

Thanks for your help.

Bye.


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From john@totten.com Wed Apr 22 14:55:38 1998
From: john@totten.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Arcad CAD Demo
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 06:55:38 -0800
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Has anyone got the ARCAD (CAD/CAM) commercial demo running on 5.2? 
Their web page is in German.

                                        John Totten
                                        Sitka Alaska

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From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr 22 17:15:39 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Question about kernel options and GTK
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:15:39 -0500
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Just have yast uninstall gimp and gtk, install your new gtk, make sure it's
in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH and have yast reinstall gimp.  If gimp protests about
the libs (doubtful),  simply pick up a newer gimp.
The default SuSE kernel is massive, 500+k, I imagine they have damn near
everything compiled into it :)

Simone Castellaneta wrote:

> I would like to know which options were set (Yes-No-Module) when people at
> S.u.S.E. compiled the kernel (2.0.33 - no SCSI) packaged with SuSE 5.1
> distribution.
>
> I would like to compile an application that requires GTK 1.0.
> Unfortunately, SuSE 5.1 installs GTK 0.97 so I downloaded and compiled
> successfully GTK 1.0 but when I tried to remove my old GTK, I got an error
> saying that libgtk.so.1, libglib.so.1 and libgdk.so.1 are needed by
> gimp-0.99.15-4.
> If I force GTK 0.97 removal, and install GTK 1.0, would GIMP complain
> about the new libraries or not?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Bye.
>
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From Marius.Augenstein@alcatel.de Wed Apr 22 17:32:41 1998
From: Marius.Augenstein@alcatel.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Problems with Wabi 2.2
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:32:41 +0200
Message-ID: <353E29B9.132DF374@alcatel.de>
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> You're stuck with 8 bit color.  You should check out Michaels web site
> at http:=
//eunuchs.org/> , he has some good info on wabi.
>=20
> Dana

Hy Dana=20

Thanks for your reply. But Michael has the same problem with the color
depth. He writes that it is necessary to switch the /etc/Xaccell.ini
file for the actual needs. It seems to be that wabi can't handle depths
above 8 bit. There is a section in the manual which describes how to
run wabi under 24 bit. But this description means that the display must
support PseudoColor in this mode. I found out that for 16 bit only=20
TrueColor as "Visual Class" is supported. If I'm wrong please correct
me. It seems to be that this is the reason for the failure.

Anyhow, thanks for your fast help. Michaels site (to the others: try it)
http://eunuchs.org/sitemap.html> contains very useful in=
formation (not
only about Linux). So thank you for your tip.


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From Marius.Augenstein@alcatel.de Wed Apr 22 18:10:51 1998
From: Marius.Augenstein@alcatel.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Question to an Kernelupgrade Kernel 2.1.xx ....
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 20:10:51 +0200
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Hy there

I've just downloaded the new kernel 2.1.97 to try it out. I read the
softwarerequirements and saw that it is necessary to upgrade very much.
Will the system be instable when I install all this new stuff (especially
the new glibc ....) ??
Is there somebody who tryed it ??=20
I'm running S.u.S.E. 5.1.

There are two additional question to all the guys from SuSE. Will the
next Version (5.3 ??) depend on glibc/libc6 ?? And, will you include
the free simulation software Ptolemy in one of the next releases ??
( http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu> )
=20

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From weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de Wed Apr 22 19:07:20 1998
From: weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cat (was: Yast FTP error message)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:07:20 +0200
Message-ID: <19980422210720.E28175@Tiger.uni-koeln.de>
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Hi!

Trying to kill the keyboard, gecko(a)benham.net produced:
>=20
> The person I was asking for wanted all the options that come with CAT.. why=
, I
> don't know.  I havn't used them since... well... yet.   He was going to port
> the whole shtuff over to Dos.  I finially found it in TEXTUTILS.

What's wrong with "man cat", then, for a starter?
(also, to find the source for cat:
$ type -a cat
cat is /bin/cat
$ rpm -qif /bin/cat
Name        : textutil   [...]
[...] Source RPM: textutil-1.22-8.src.rpm

-Wolfgang


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From kyle@dsndata.com Wed Apr 22 19:12:00 1998
From: kyle@dsndata.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Linux Proxy Server Authorization
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:12:00 -0500
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Leon McClatchey writes:

 > I finally succeeded in getting my network running between Win95 and
 > Linux:-)  Now, I want to be able to access the internet from the Win95
 > machine via my Linux Box.  (My Linux Box is the only machine that has an
 > outside connection).  I have set up the Win95 Box to access the internet
 > via a "proxy server" with the address for my Linux Box as the "Proxy
 > server".  But, when I try to make the connection, I get a big display
 > saying that I am not authorized to access whatever site thru this
 > server.
 > 
 > Question, What all is involved in setting the Linux Box up as a proxy
 > server?
 > 
 > I'd appreciate any hints and pointers that could help in getting this
 > little problem solved:-)

I set up something like that using IP Masquerading.  It's a kernel
option.  I think that there is some info on it in
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/Masquerading.  It lets the other
two win 95 machines use my dialup connection while I'm using the
connection.  It's really cool.  It sends the right packets to the right
machines automagically.  Although 3 people sharing one modem does slow
things down on occasion.

If you set up diald,  your linux machine will start up your
internet connection whenever it gets a request from any of the machines
for a machine that you can't resolve in your hosts file.

Hope this helps.

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From weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de Wed Apr 22 19:23:46 1998
From: weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Tkman in SuSe 5.1
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:23:46 +0200
Message-ID: <19980422212346.F28175@Tiger.uni-koeln.de>
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Hi!

Trying to kill the keyboard, alfiesty(a)chaffee.net produced:
> 
> I am still learning Linux. I have fvwm95 running fairly well and am trying
> various programs on the 5.1 disk set. I started TkDesk and then Tkman. When
> Tkman came up it said that it was updating the database. 26 HOURS later it
> was still not done! At that time according to the little performance
> monitor it was using 100

My god, you *have* patience. Killing it was the correct thing to do.
The 100% CPU is normal ... nothing else was runnung, so it got 100% CPU
and used it. The memory and swap point to a memory leak ...

> Now
> I hear all this talk about how much faster Linux is than W95, but I have
> NEVER has a process take 26 hours on any W95 machine I have. 

Well, I have yet to see a win9x to run stable for 26 hours while a
process is actually running. (See? It works both ways.)

Anyway I/we do not have to defend Linux, after all:

    "We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds."
    (Linus Torvalds about the superiority of Linux on the Amterdam
    Linux Symposium)

(If you think closely about this anecdote, you'll probably see the
error the program has/had. And your voided attack on Linux.)

-Wolfgang


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From sixsoft@yahoo.com Wed Apr 22 19:27:21 1998
From: sixsoft@yahoo.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Suggesttion: Please include a better subject for yor
 message.
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:27:21 -0700
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As a suggestion, please type in a better subject for your message, so
when you browse, you save time reading the ones you are interested in.

Sixto A. Castro --- SixSoft Software Co.

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From viktor@albatros.sch.bme.hu Wed Apr 22 19:41:28 1998
From: viktor@albatros.sch.bme.hu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ssh
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 20:41:28 +0100
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Hi!

I wonder why ssh was not included in 5.2, as it was in 5.1, because I
found it very useful, and I think many others did.

Viktor

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From mhouston@mh01.demon.co.uk Wed Apr 22 20:14:16 1998
From: mhouston@mh01.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Problems with Wabi 2.2
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:14:16 +0100
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On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Marius Augenstein wrote:

>=20
> Hy there=20
>=20
> I bought Wabi for Linux to run Word in it. After the installation I got
> problems with the current color depth. I'm using a default depth of 16 bit.
> When wabi starts the only result is that I'm get the message:
>=20
> X Server has unsupported default depth
> Unrecoverable Error in Wabi
>=20
> Unsupported display depth 16 in init_gdi.
>=20
> Wabi will exit now.
>=20
>=20
> I tried it with using 8 bit as the default depth and it works. Is there
> a possibility which enables wabi to work under 16 bit color depth ??
> A special switch or sth.
>=20
The only way to fudge it is to use the Olivetti VNC software to
bring up an 8 bit VNC session within a 16 bit window. Wabi works but
is a bit sedate because of the extra software layer.

The really nice thing is that the Wabi windows only stick to the VNC
window not the main screen so you can iconise the whole lot with one
click. See http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc/faq.html> for de=
tails of this
wonderful multi-use technology.


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From alfiesty@chaffee.net Wed Apr 22 23:22:39 1998
From: alfiesty@chaffee.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Tkman in SuSe 5.1
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:22:39 -0600
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At 09:23 PM 4/22/98 +0200, probably while laughing his ass off at this
stupid newbie Wolfgang wrote:
>
>Hi!
>
>Well, I have yet to see a win9x to run stable for 26 hours while a
>process is actually running. (See? It works both ways.)
>
I do most of my keyboard stuff in my house while attached to the Linux
machine in my shop through X. the machine in the house MUST be Win95
because I program in Visual Basic and NT won't run on a NX586. This machine
which has a continious Xwindow running and visual basic most of the time
has not been re-booted in more  than 2 months. AND that was to ad a new
pccard.
Jim


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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Thu Apr 23 04:07:42 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE beta 4
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 00:07:42 -0400
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If you don't know, there is a beta 4 of the Kuel Desktop Environment.
Now that I downloaded it I'll share the news :-) .  This package is
great!

www.kde.org

Steve


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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Thu Apr 23 05:27:31 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] XFree86
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:27:31 -0400
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I have some questions regarding XFree86.

1)  Can anybody tell me if it is likely that the support for Matrox
Millennium II cards might be improved so that the card can be used to
their full capabilities?  Right now the color depth and refresh rates
are far below what the card can handle.

2) Is it possible that the problem that I and others have with long
downloads "going to sleep" in netscape could be related to XFree86?

3) Stardivision says that some people don't have the dreaded PS/2 bug.
Could it be that this problem is related to the windows driver?

Dee,

You don't use XFree86, do you have problems with a PS/2 mouse and
StarOffice 4.0?  You said that you don't have a problem with Netscape
going to sleep on long ftp downloads.  Is this still what you are
experiencing?


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From peter@datadok.no Thu Apr 23 06:44:09 1998
From: peter@datadok.no
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE support dead or on holidays...!?
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:44:09 +0100
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980423074255.0088dd40@datadok.no>
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>	Does your distribution support the Iomega's // Zip like Red Hat's ver 5
>does? The installation under Red Hat goes via SCSI support + installation
>of the ppa driver.
>
>	Does your distribution have a support for easy managing of modules like
>Red Hat does with their "kerneld" utility which allows to load/unload
>modules easely? This is very usefull while using the // Zip and a printer.

I don't work for SUSE (actually, I haven't gotten around to configuring a
SUSE system yet), but you questions can be answered on generally basis.

The drivers and the kernel module loading/unloading are standard linux=20
kernel features, and should be present (or at least possible) in all=20
linux distributions. And yes, from the documentation which is available
via the net (the SUSE manual is available via ftp) it looks like SUSE
is quite flexible in letting you deal with modules.

- Peter

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From deem@wdm.com Thu Apr 23 07:05:14 1998
From: deem@wdm.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE beta 4 rpm's for SuSE 5.2 ?
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:05:14 -0800
Message-ID: <199804230705.XAA00425@wdm.com>
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"Steven T. Hatton"  wrote:
> 
> If you don't know, there is a beta 4 of the Kuel Desktop Environment.
> Now that I downloaded it I'll share the news :-) .  This package is
> great!
> 
> www.kde.org

Greetings....

Are we going to see any Beta 4.0 rpms for SuSE 5.2 ?
Just curious again.

Best Regards
-Dee


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From bob100@ibm.net Thu Apr 23 08:49:20 1998
From: bob100@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SCSI-2 Controllers
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:49:20 -0400
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I'm about to go from a 486 to a Pentium II with a 400MHz chip and a 100MHz bu=
s.
For technical reasons am getting one of the new Adaptec Ultra2 controllers.
Yes, I know it will probably be a good while before this card is supported.
Therefore, until it is, I'm going to run linux on an external hard disk.

I will have 4 external peripherals: 2 hard disks, a scanner, and a CDR. All a=
re
SCSI-2. So I'm planning to get a second controller to run these devices until
linux supports the Adaptec Ultra2. My first thought was to go BusLogic.
However, I'd be forced to buy a very expensive one because of compatibility
issues with new mother boards.

So, does anyone have any suggestions as to a suitable controller which wouldn=
't
cost me an arm and a leg? Again, it doesn't have to handle anything beyond
SCSI-2.

Thanks!
----------------------------------
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Date: 23-Apr-98
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From kar@webline.dk Thu Apr 23 08:59:36 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Thinkpad
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:59:36 +0200
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I have a IBM Thinkpad 760XL. I also have problems installing S.u.S.E.
Linux on it.

First problem is to install from CD through setup.exe. I choose this
because I can't have both CD and Floppy in the thinkpad simultaneously.
When I get to mounting the CD from setup, it tells me that it fails. As
I know, it's a standard ATAPI drive, but also trying to manually load
any of the CD-ROM drivers with any of the EIDE kernels fails.

I believe I can copy the CD to harddisk and install from there, but I
would like to know if there is a better way.

Next question if I get past this: Any hope for support for my two
PCMCIA cards: Lasat Credit 336 faxmodem and IBM Turbo 16/4 Token Ring?


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From fsavoir@amazingstudio.com Thu Apr 23 09:00:02 1998
From: fsavoir@amazingstudio.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How after the installation to create a boot disk on
 a LS-120 ?
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:00:02 +0200
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Hello,

I'm a new user of S.U.S.E 5.2. My computer don't have a 'normal' floppy but a 
LS-120.
Then when the installation is completed how to create a boot on my LS-120 to 
let reboot on this fresh new install ?

Or at least is it possible to re-boot on my CD and to specify to boot on my 
Linux partition ?

Best regards,

Fred

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From weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de Thu Apr 23 09:52:33 1998
From: weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Tkman in SuSe 5.1
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:52:33 +0200
Message-ID: <19980423115233.E1889@Tiger.uni-koeln.de>
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Hi!

Trying to kill the keyboard, alfiesty(a)chaffee.net produced:
> 
> At 09:23 PM 4/22/98 +0200, probably while laughing his ass off at this
> stupid newbie Wolfgang wrote:

Not laughing ... 

> >Well, I have yet to see a win9x to run stable for 26 hours while a
> >process is actually running. (See? It works both ways.)

> I do most of my keyboard stuff in my house while attached to the Linux
> machine in my shop through X. the machine in the house MUST be Win95
> because I program in Visual Basic and NT won't run on a NX586. 

Well, if you _have to_[1] program in VB, it cannot be helped ... though I hear
there's an emulator for Linux on which win95 is said to, eh, crawl.

[1] There may be many valid reasons to use this language, but generally
    *I*'d prefer perl or C.

> This machine
> which has a continious Xwindow running and visual basic most of the time
> has not been re-booted in more  than 2 months. AND that was to ad a new
> pccard.

Hmmm. Does that mean blood sacrifices or something? :-) 
But then none of the processes you mentioned racked up 26 hours of processor
time, right? :-)

(Anyway, your machine may be a freak occurance. And if you program an
endless loop, adding a bit to memory usage every now and then ... )

-Wolfgang


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From weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de Thu Apr 23 09:54:19 1998
From: weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ssh
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:54:19 +0200
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Hi!

Trying to kill the keyboard, viktor(a)albatros.sch.bme.hu produced:
> I wonder why ssh was not included in 5.2, as it was in 5.1, because I
> found it very useful, and I think many others did.

Well, I am using the German version, but it's right there, in series n,
packet ssh ...

-Wolfgang


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From mantel@suse.de Thu Apr 23 10:25:41 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Question about kernel options and GTK
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:25:41 +0200
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Hi,

On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Simone Castellaneta wrote:

> I would like to know which options were set (Yes-No-Module) when people at
> S.u.S.E. compiled the kernel (2.0.33 - no SCSI) packaged with SuSE 5.1 
> distribution.

Look on CD#1 in the directory /suse/images/config. There you'll find the
config files for all kernels.
For the names: "config.eide01" is the config file of the install kernel
"eide01". "config.eide01.ikr" is the config file of the installed kernel
which is used after installation.

> Bye.

    Hubert


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From mantel@suse.de Thu Apr 23 10:33:55 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: ssh
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:33:55 +0200
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Hi,

On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Magyar Viktor wrote:

> I wonder why ssh was not included in 5.2, as it was in 5.1, because I
> found it very useful, and I think many others did.

The english version doesn't contain ssh, pgp or other crypto software,
because we are exporting from our US office to the whole world and it is
illegal to export crypto software from the USA.

> Viktor

    Hubert


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From mantel@suse.de Thu Apr 23 10:47:05 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Problems with Wabi 2.2
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:47:05 +0200
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Hi,

On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Martin Houston wrote:

> > I bought Wabi for Linux to run Word in it. After the installation I got
> > problems with the current color depth. I'm using a default depth of 16 bi=
t.
> > When wabi starts the only result is that I'm get the message:
> >=20
> > X Server has unsupported default depth
> > Unrecoverable Error in Wabi
> >=20
> > Unsupported display depth 16 in init_gdi.
> >=20
> > Wabi will exit now.
> >=20
> >=20
> > I tried it with using 8 bit as the default depth and it works. Is there
> > a possibility which enables wabi to work under 16 bit color depth ??
> > A special switch or sth.
> >=20
> The only way to fudge it is to use the Olivetti VNC software to
> bring up an 8 bit VNC session within a 16 bit window. Wabi works but
> is a bit sedate because of the extra software layer.

There is another solution: try the experimental Xnest X Server. This
allows for nesting X Servers, so you are able to run an 8 bit server
inside of an 16 bit one. Xnest is in package xextra.

I'm no specialist on how to set it up, but I saw a friend of mine running
WABI this way on a 16 bit display.

> The really nice thing is that the Wabi windows only stick to the VNC
> window not the main screen so you can iconise the whole lot with one
> click. See http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc/faq.html> for =
details of this
> wonderful multi-use technology.
>=20
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From mantel@suse.de Thu Apr 23 10:55:23 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: SuSE support dead or on holidays...!?
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:55:23 +0200
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Hi,

On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Zoki wrote:

> I tryed to contact the SuSE info departement a short week ago to get some
> feedback on issues compared to Red Hat (that I tested) and to decide if
> going for the SuSE distributions is a thing to do. However, either the
> information departement has been murdered, taken hostige by Marsians (on
> assignment for B.G. of M$), or desolved, but even a second message hasn't
> given any results.

Oops, this of course shouldn't happen. Our US office is still under
construction and I assume they have been very busy because of the Comdex.
Normally we try to answer every question as fast as possible.

If you do not get an answer in a reasonable amount of time, just mail to
suse(a)suse.de. Of course, suse.com is preferred as there are native english
speaking people ;-)

> Which is why I hope a posting to the mailinglist will generate some
> feedback. So, fire up your boxes, caress the keyboards and please send me
> what you know concerning the questions I have about certain details of
> SuSE's Linux version:
> 
> The original mail:
> 
> --> I am into digital picture treatement so one of the points that make
> your distribution interesting are the sane scanner dirvers and gimp
> included in the package. Next to all the other graph application. I have
> been playing around with Red Hat a bit just to get the idea of Linux. This,
> however has raised a few questions I would like to get some feedback on:
> 
> 	Does your distribution support the Iomega's // Zip like Red Hat's ver 5
> does? The installation under Red Hat goes via SCSI support + installation
> of the ppa driver.

Yes. The kernel/modules is essentially the same on all linux
distributions.

> 	Does your distribution have a support for easy managing of modules like
> Red Hat does with their "kerneld" utility which allows to load/unload
> modules easely? This is very usefull while using the // Zip and a printer.
> The ppa driver blocks namely the // port and printing is impossible.
> Loading/unloading it would be very usefull. <---

We're using the kerneld, too. Especially for the parallel port devices
this is a must, as with kernel 2.0.x it's not possible to use a printer
and a ZIP drive on the parallel port at the same time.

> In reference to this mail I would like to add: How does the techsupport by
> e-mail work since it takes them a lot of time not to answer customer maill!?
> 
> Since my written German is bad - no practice anymore - I wasn't able to
> post it in that language. However, reading German is no problem so please
> feel free to send me your feedback in your native language!
> 
> Regards and thanks!
> 
> Zoki.

    Hubert


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From mantel@suse.de Thu Apr 23 11:01:13 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Thinkpad
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:01:13 +0200
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Hi,

On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

> I have a IBM Thinkpad 760XL. I also have problems installing S.u.S.E.
> Linux on it.

We are still investigating the problems with the ThinkPads. I did lots of
tests in the past but there is no common pattern on which machines it
works and on which it fails.
I have feedback that sometimes the RedHat kernels work (more often than
the S.u.S.E. kernels), but there are machines on which even RedHat's
kernel fails.

One thing in common: On every machine it seems to be possible to
successfully boot the kernel using loadlin.exe (this is what setup.exe
does).

> First problem is to install from CD through setup.exe. I choose this
> because I can't have both CD and Floppy in the thinkpad simultaneously.
> When I get to mounting the CD from setup, it tells me that it fails. As
> I know, it's a standard ATAPI drive, but also trying to manually load
> any of the CD-ROM drivers with any of the EIDE kernels fails.

I think this is another problem: Some thinkpads have a special
sleep/suspend mode for their CD-ROM drives the linux kernel doesn't know
about. Loading the DOS driver in the config.sys file with the "/S" switch
cured this problem in many cases. Maybe you could give it a try...

> I believe I can copy the CD to harddisk and install from there, but I
> would like to know if there is a better way.
> 
> Next question if I get past this: Any hope for support for my two
> PCMCIA cards: Lasat Credit 336 faxmodem and IBM Turbo 16/4 Token Ring?

Never heard about the Lasat card. The Token Ring card should work out of
the box. The "SUPPORTED.CARDS" of the PCMCIA package explicitly lists
these cards.

    Hubert


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From mantel@suse.de Thu Apr 23 11:04:51 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: How after the installation to create a boot disk
 on a LS-120 ?
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:04:51 +0200
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Hi,

On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Frederic SAVOIR wrote:

> I'm a new user of S.U.S.E 5.2. My computer don't have a 'normal' floppy but=
 a=20
> LS-120.
> Then when the installation is completed how to create a boot on my LS-120 t=
o=20
> let reboot on this fresh new install ?

Currently there's no way to do this using YaST. The LS-120 is accessed as
a removable hard drive (/dev/hdd instead of /dev/fd0). So you'll have to
create a bootdisk manually. But normally this isn't really necessary as
you can use the installation boot disk to start your installed system.

> Or at least is it possible to re-boot on my CD and to specify to boot on my=
=20
> Linux partition ?

Yes. Just boot like for an installation. When linuxrc starts, just choose
"start installation/system" -> "boot installed system". No specify your
root partition and the installed system will be started. Oh yes: Of course
you might need to load some modules for your hardware before you boot the
system this way.

> Best regards,
>=20
> Fred
> ---
> Email: Frederic SAVOIR 

    Hubert


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From hettar@teleport.com Thu Apr 23 11:28:33 1998
From: hettar@teleport.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Replacing Windows NT Server with Linux (a link to an
 artical)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:28:33 -0700
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Replacing Windows NT Server with Linux=20

This is an article digged up from a discussion
on IRC #linux.

I mentioned that my professor at school said that
one of his friends had a Novell(netware) server
that kept crashing, so they "upgraded" to NT
and it kept crashing and still is. And his friend
was trying to talk his BOSS into useing Linux.

I got a reply back from a friend on IRC, saying
he was looking at an artical about the same thing
Exact samething. And he gave me the site to go read.
Here it is: =20
http://citv.unl.edu/linux/Lin=
uxPresentation.html>

Now, I read it all and I WILL be giving this to
my professor at school to pass along to his friend.

This is almost a must read, go read it, you WILL=20
enjoy it. It shows LINUX can't be beat.
Yes it is about RED HAT, but with a bit of thought,
I think most of it can be done from SuSE.

This is a very cool artical, I thought I would share=20
it with the SuSE people ;)

Take a look! I printed it out 41 pages in all.

--=20
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From misc.word.corp@pobox.com Thu Apr 23 12:35:12 1998
From: misc.word.corp@pobox.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Ensonique AudioPCI/OSS
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:35:12 -0400
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I've been trying to run OSS to configure my Ensonique AudioPCI
soundcard, but I get the following error messages on ". /oss-install"
rmmod soundbase              device loaded or in use
rmmod soundshield             device loaded or in use

OSS driver is already loaded
./soundconf: line 111: 1074 Segmentation fault.
Use soundoff to unload it and try again.

Of course, executing soundoff has no effect, because no OSS driver is
loaded at this point.

I'm using the current, Webpage version of OSS (*not* the version shipped
with 5.2) because it supports Ensonique AudioPCI. I've also installed
all the packages in the sound section (midi support, etc) -- perhaps I
should delete these packages and try again.

Any solutions or ideas from anybody, or from Bodo, et. al. ?

Otherwise, 5.2 is fantastic. Can't wait for 6.

Glenn


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From weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de Thu Apr 23 13:53:01 1998
From: weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: ssh
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:53:01 +0200
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Hi!

Trying to kill the keyboard, mantel(a)suse.de produced:
> The english version doesn't contain ssh, pgp or other crypto software,
> because we are exporting from our US office to the whole world and it is
> illegal to export crypto software from the USA.

Oh ... yes. Crypto kills ... :-( 

Anyway, would there be a way for your costomers who use the english
version (i.e. not me) to find a few .rpms somewhere on a server outside
the US? IIRC importing crypto is no problem, but IANAL (I am not a
lawyer).

-Wolfgang


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From suse@wavenet.it Thu Apr 23 14:23:17 1998
From: suse@wavenet.it
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] GIMP and GTK 1.0 problem
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:23:17 +0200
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As someone suggested me yesterday, I' ve removed Gimp and GTK 0.97, I
installed GTK 1.0 (compiled source), I reinstalled Gimp but when I start
Gimp, I get

use(a)Voyager:/home/suse > gimp
parsing "/home/suse/.gimp/gtkrc"
parsing "/usr/share/gimp/0.99.15/gimprc"
parsing "/home/suse/.gimp/gimprc"
parsing "/home/suse/.gimp/pluginrc"
/usr/lib/gimp/0.99.15/plug-ins/script-fu: can't resolve symbol 'g_string_hash'
/usr/lib/gimp/0.99.15/plug-ins/script-fu: can't resolve symbol 'g_string_equa=
l'
Starting extensions: extension_script_fu wire_read: unexpected EOF

...and I have to type CTRL+C to stop the process that does not exit by
itself.
GTK seems to have been installed correctly as I compiled some programs
that require 1.0 version but Gimp doesn' t work (up to yesterday it worked
fine).
I' ve checked Gimp dependencies and they seem to be satisfied:

use(a)Voyager:/usr/bin > ldd gimp
        libgtk.so.1 =3D> /usr/lib/libgtk.so.1 (0x4000a000)
        libgdk.so.1 =3D> /usr/lib/libgdk.so.1 (0x4009e000)
        libglib.so.1 =3D> /usr/lib/libglib.so.1 (0x400bc000)
        libX11.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400c7000)
        libXext.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40166000)
        libm.so.5 =3D> /lib/libm.so.5 (0x40171000)
        libc.so.5 =3D> /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4017a000)

What can I do to make Gimp working (besides compiling and installing Gimp
from source package)?

Thanks for your help.

Bye.


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From zokiphoto@magic.fr Thu Apr 23 14:56:54 1998
From: zokiphoto@magic.fr
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE support dead or on holidays...!?
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:56:54 +0000
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I tryed to contact the SuSE info departement a short week ago to get some
feedback on issues compared to Red Hat (that I tested) and to decide if
going for the SuSE distributions is a thing to do. However, either the
information departement has been murdered, taken hostige by Marsians (on
assignment for B.G. of M$), or desolved, but even a second message hasn't
given any results.

Which is why I hope a posting to the mailinglist will generate some
feedback. So, fire up your boxes, caress the keyboards and please send me
what you know concerning the questions I have about certain details of
SuSE's Linux version:

The original mail:

--> I am into digital picture treatement so one of the points that make
your distribution interesting are the sane scanner dirvers and gimp
included in the package. Next to all the other graph application. I have
been playing around with Red Hat a bit just to get the idea of Linux. This,
however has raised a few questions I would like to get some feedback on:

        Does your distribution support the Iomega's // Zip like Red Hat's ver=
 5
does? The installation under Red Hat goes via SCSI support + installation
of the ppa driver.

        Does your distribution have a support for easy managing of modules li=
ke
Red Hat does with their "kerneld" utility which allows to load/unload
modules easely? This is very usefull while using the // Zip and a printer.
The ppa driver blocks namely the // port and printing is impossible.
Loading/unloading it would be very usefull. <---

In reference to this mail I would like to add: How does the techsupport by
e-mail work since it takes them a lot of time not to answer customer maill!?

Since my written German is bad - no practice anymore - I wasn't able to
post it in that language. However, reading German is no problem so please
feel free to send me your feedback in your native language!

Regards and thanks!

Zoki.

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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Thu Apr 23 15:14:12 1998
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printer Kaputt!
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:14:12 +0200
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Hi all,

Once again I'm having hell with my printer. I've an old HP Deskjet 500
with an APS filter. I printed part of a file with "lpr -Praw file". This
printed fine, but now it will not print at all. I tried "lpc clean all"
and still will not print. I even resetup the aps filter. 

When I do "lpc stat" I get this:

ascii:
        queuing is enabled
        printing is enabled
        no entries
        no daemon present
lp:
        queuing is enabled
        printing is enabled
        no entries
        no daemon present
raw:
        queuing is enabled
        printing is enabled
        no entries
        no daemon present

I believe this means that my lpd daemon is dead, am I right? And if so
what do I do to get it restarted?

Thanks for your help,

JIM

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Germany 
hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de

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From mantel@suse.de Thu Apr 23 15:33:43 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Ensonique AudioPCI/OSS
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:33:43 +0200
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Hi,

On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, misc.word.corp wrote:

> I've been trying to run OSS to configure my Ensonique AudioPCI
> soundcard, but I get the following error messages on ". /oss-install"
> rmmod soundbase              device loaded or in use
> rmmod soundshield             device loaded or in use
> 
> OSS driver is already loaded
> ./soundconf: line 111: 1074 Segmentation fault.
> Use soundoff to unload it and try again.
> 
> Of course, executing soundoff has no effect, because no OSS driver is
> loaded at this point.

Maybe running soundconf triggers the kerneld which loads the standard
linux sound driver. Try modifying /etc/conf.modules from:

alias char-major-14       sound

to

alias char-major-14       off

this will prevent the kerneld to load the sound module when the device Maj
14 is accessed. To be sure, do a "rmmod sound" afterwards.

> I'm using the current, Webpage version of OSS (*not* the version shipped
> with 5.2) because it supports Ensonique AudioPCI. I've also installed
> all the packages in the sound section (midi support, etc) -- perhaps I
> should delete these packages and try again.
> 
> Any solutions or ideas from anybody, or from Bodo, et. al. ?
> 
> Otherwise, 5.2 is fantastic. Can't wait for 6.
> 
> Glenn

    Hubert


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From rdebruin@cistron.nl Thu Apr 23 16:00:05 1998
From: rdebruin@cistron.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Ensonique AudioPCI/OSS
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:00:05 +0200
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On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, misc.word.corp wrote:

> 
> I've been trying to run OSS to configure my Ensonique AudioPCI
> soundcard, but I get the following error messages on ". /oss-install"
> rmmod soundbase              device loaded or in use
> rmmod soundshield             device loaded or in use
> 
> OSS driver is already loaded
> ./soundconf: line 111: 1074 Segmentation fault.
> Use soundoff to unload it and try again.

I've reported the same problem already to SuSE and OSS. The solution is to
download the latest beta  OSS from their web-site. This works well.

regards, Ruud.


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From ckemp@spcbrass.com Thu Apr 23 18:21:35 1998
From: ckemp@spcbrass.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing an internal Modem as Com3
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:21:35 -0500
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Hello list,

I'm installing an internal US Robotics Modem as Com3, with an IRQ of 5.

Do I have to make a new device file for this capability?? If so how?

Thanks

Curt


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From brauki@cww.de Thu Apr 23 20:00:21 1998
From: brauki@cww.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printer Kaputt!
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:00:21 +0200
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Jim Hatridge wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Once again I'm having hell with my printer. I've an old HP Deskjet 500
> with an APS filter. I printed part of a file with "lpr -Praw file". This
> printed fine, but now it will not print at all. I tried "lpc clean all"
> and still will not print. I even resetup the aps filter.
> 
I usually use "lpc up all". (there are a hell more lpc commands)
I do not know wether they are the same, you might try "lpc restart all"
as well.
sometimes (on my printserver machine running samba) the printer hangs
like that, the next job starts the first and gets stuck. just to save i
even run a small cron job every 10 min....

Jürgen


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From jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu Thu Apr 23 20:00:49 1998
From: jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing an internal Modem as Com3
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:00:49 -0400
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>=20
> Hello list,
>=20
> I'm installing an internal US Robotics Modem as Com3, with an IRQ of 5.
>=20
> Do I have to make a new device file for this capability?? If so how?
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> Curt
>=20

        the device name of com3 is /dev/cua2 ...  (check your motherboard man=
ual for the which irqs are for which com ports) =20

                                                Jonathan

--=20
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                           Jonathan Paul Cowherd
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From braden@shadow.net Thu Apr 23 20:16:13 1998
From: braden@shadow.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:16:13 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On
> Behalf Of Hubert Mantel
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 7:59 AM
> To: suse-linux-e
> Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system

> Yes. We are using a newer version of the aic7xxx driver which can handle
> the aic7895. It is able to boot from CD.

Excellent. This is certainly a good place to start.

> The official kernel doesn't yet support NTFS. There is a readonly
> experimental driver on the CD. If you want to use it, you'll have to patch
> and recompile your kernel.

Okay.

Thanks for the information, and thanks to the rest of you who responded,
too; I've read over the howto for using the NT OS loader to load Linux, and
I'm approaching this with some faint glimmer of confidence.

Prismatic Booger
Braden N. McDaniel, braden(a)shadow.net
<http://www.shadow.net/0.000000E+00braden/<=
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From striepe@geo.uni-bonn.de Thu Apr 23 20:28:18 1998
From: striepe@geo.uni-bonn.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ftapev -> info-problems (was something else)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:28:18 +0000
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> > 
> > Hey Y'all
> > I've got the ftape info files installed in /usr/info, but
> > thay don't show up
> > in the info dir file. I was jus gonna stick 'em in there but
> > the file says
> > "auto-configured by SuSE. do not edit" SO I was wondering
> > how i can add things 
> > to the auto-config of my info dir.
> > -- 
> > yours,
> > Andy

Here is my reply,
sending it again.
arnulf
> 
> Hi!
> As far as I know, and I presume you didn't install ftape with yast!,
> you have to run mkinfodir, and thats all.
> yast runs it itself when info-dir was changed.
> and puts this message in, auto-conf.....
> You could probalby run yast and do some changes that aren't real changes,
> so that it call suseconfig and it will execute mkinfodir.
> 
> arnulf
> 
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From slk@grace.acm.rpi.edu Thu Apr 23 20:56:48 1998
From: slk@grace.acm.rpi.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SCSI-2 Controllers
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:56:48 -0400
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On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, bob gordon wrote:

>=20
> I'm about to go from a 486 to a Pentium II with a 400MHz chip and a 100MHz =
bus.
> For technical reasons am getting one of the new Adaptec Ultra2 controllers.
> Yes, I know it will probably be a good while before this card is supported.
> Therefore, until it is, I'm going to run linux on an external hard disk.

SuSE's kernels, IIRC, use an updated Adaptec driver that fully supports
the Adaptec Ultra 2 (not verified, and I still don't like Adaptec
hardware)
=20
> I will have 4 external peripherals: 2 hard disks, a scanner, and a CDR. All=
 are
> SCSI-2. So I'm planning to get a second controller to run these devices unt=
il
> linux supports the Adaptec Ultra2. My first thought was to go BusLogic.
> However, I'd be forced to buy a very expensive one because of compatibility
> issues with new mother boards.

The BT-930 works just fine with new motherboards, and costs about $130.
(I've seen it for as low as $110)

Otherwise, something NCR/Symbios based (i.e. Asus SC875) is a good bet.

If all you need is fast narrow SCSI-II and don't need to boot from it,
then get an Asus SC-200 (discontinued but still around) for around $60.
>=20
> So, does anyone have any suggestions as to a suitable controller which woul=
dn't
> cost me an arm and a leg? Again, it doesn't have to handle anything beyond
> SCSI-2.

fast narrow: SC-200, about $60
ultra narrow: BT-930, about $130
ultra wide: BT-950, about $160

--Simon

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From scurran@aracnet.net Thu Apr 23 21:29:51 1998
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In order to learn about the differences in the different distributions I

have loaded and worked four types of Linux.  With two I have been unable

to get gcc to link files.  Can anyone tell me what libraries or files
are needed by gcc to link files.  I think this may be the problem?  Suse

worked fine but redhat 4.2, 5.0 and Caldera all failed to compile and
link.  I ran them on a P150 cpu, if that helps and loaded everything on
the CDs.

Except for ppp and Netscape I really think suse is the way to go.

PPP is now one but I still cannot get Netscape to find the modem.
Thanks

Denis


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From vhearn@wenet.net Thu Apr 23 21:51:31 1998
From: vhearn@wenet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] an internal Modem as Com3
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:51:31 -0700
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wow...i reinstallled everything....NOW howdo i run audio CD from x
window????

Curt Kemp wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> I'm installing an internal US Robotics Modem as Com3, with an IRQ of 5.
>
> Do I have to make a new device file for this capability?? If so how?
>
> Thanks
>
> Curt
>
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From hongfeng@public.wh.hb.cn Thu Apr 23 22:42:16 1998
From: hongfeng@public.wh.hb.cn
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] an internal Modem as Com3
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 06:42:16 +0800
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you can read "Linux Multimedia Guide" by Jeff Tranter from O'Reilly

(http://www.oreilly.com>) for details.

Rgds,

Frederic

vic дµ½£º

wow...i reinstallled everything....NOW howdo i run
audio CD from x

window????

Curt Kemp wrote:

> Hello list,

>

> I'm installing an internal US Robotics Modem as Com3, with an IRQ
of 5.

>

> Do I have to make a new device file for this capability?? If so how?

>

> Thanks

>

> Curt

>

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From micheleamerica@geocities.com Thu Apr 23 22:55:38 1998
From: micheleamerica@geocities.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How to add a slace isdn channel to use mppp ?
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:55:38 +0100
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From mhouston@mh01.demon.co.uk Thu Apr 23 23:02:53 1998
From: mhouston@mh01.demon.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: ssh
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:02:53 +0100
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On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Hubert Mantel wrote:

>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Magyar Viktor wrote:
>=20
> > I wonder why ssh was not included in 5.2, as it was in 5.1, because I
> > found it very useful, and I think many others did.
>=20
> The english version doesn't contain ssh, pgp or other crypto software,
> because we are exporting from our US office to the whole world and it is
> illegal to export crypto software from the USA.
>=20
> > Viktor
>=20
>     Hubert
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Wuld it be possible to make a crypto tar ball so that it would be as easy
as possible to download the missing bits from non US sites?

I would be happy to carry it on www.deluxe-tech.co.uk for one.


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From alfiesty@chaffee.net Thu Apr 23 23:16:20 1998
From: alfiesty@chaffee.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Bounced messages
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:16:20 -0600
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I have now gotten over 50 bounced messages. PLEASE STOP THEM!
Jim
included message:
>The original message was received at Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:37:39 -0500
>from mmell(a)localhost [127.0.0.1]
>
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>
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>
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to 
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>Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Tkman in SuSe 5.1
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>I am still learning Linux. I have fvwm95 running fairly well and am trying
>various programs on the 5.1 disk set. I started TkDesk and then Tkman. When
>Tkman came up it said that it was updating the database. 26 HOURS later it
>was still not done! At that time according to the little performance
>monitor it was using 100
>I hear all this talk about how much faster Linux is than W95, but I have
>NEVER has a process take 26 hours on any W95 machine I have. The box in
>question is a Cyrix NX586-90 with 32M, 64M swap and a HP 1.3Gig HD. What
>was it doing for 26 hours?
>Jim
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From gecko@benham.net Thu Apr 23 23:42:00 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How to add a slace isdn channel to use mppp
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:42:00 -0700
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On my ISDN, it's hardware related.  I have to go into the modem configureation
mode and send a special command..

On 23-Apr-98 Michele America wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Can someone tell me how to configure a second isdn channel to add as a
> slave to a working one ?
>=20
> I have a working setup using HiSax in TIK mode and using syncppp.
> What must i do to configure a slave device ?
>=20
> If possible tell me all files that have to change and what is to be
> added.
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Michele America
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> LINUX the choice of a GNU generation

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From jdkc@woptura.com Thu Apr 23 23:57:59 1998
From: jdkc@woptura.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:57:59 -0500
Message-ID: <353FD587.D3D70678@woptura.com>
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Here is the last part of my  after I compiled
my kernel.

What did I do wrong?  I only have sound on Tkdesk, and
"workman".

> gcc -D__KERNEL__
> -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/include -Wall
> -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
> -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=2
> -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586  -c -o
> sound_switch.o sound_switch.c
> sound_switch.c: In function `init_status':
> sound_switch.c:97: parse error before `SOUND_CONFIG_DATE'
> make[2]: *** [sound_switch.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/drivers/sound'
> make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/drivers'
> make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2

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From jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu Fri Apr 24 00:35:40 1998
From: jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:35:40 -0400
Message-ID: <199804240035.UAA17784@ox.slug.louisville.edu>
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>=20
> Here is the last part of my  after I compiled
> my kernel.
>=20
> What did I do wrong?  I only have sound on Tkdesk, and
> "workman".
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > gcc -D__KERNEL__
> > -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/include -Wall
> > -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
> > -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=3D2
> > -malign-jumps=3D2 -malign-functions=3D2 -DCPU=3D586  -c -o
> > sound_switch.o sound_switch.c
> > sound_switch.c: In function `init_status':
> > sound_switch.c:97: parse error before `SOUND_CONFIG_DATE'
> > make[2]: *** [sound_switch.o] Error 1
> > make[2]: Leaving directory
> > `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/drivers/sound'
> > make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
> > make[1]: Leaving directory
> > `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/drivers'
> > make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
>=20
>=20
>=20
>   "Ich trank was !!??"
>                  Socrates
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        Something in your kernal configs aren't compatible or your card doesn=
't support the feature your tried to configure in...

                                                Jonathan

P.S.  sound support is easier to work with as a module...  You might need to =
get the specs on your chips on your sound card...  then do some hacking with =
the driver...


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From zokiphoto@magic.fr Fri Apr 24 01:02:48 1998
From: zokiphoto@magic.fr
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE support dead or on holidays...!?
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:02:48 +0000
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Hubert, Peter & Darren,

Since you Hubert and Peter answered my most important questions and since
the delay is due to SuSE's presence on the Comdex - I bet your OS didn't
block when you connected a scanner to it - I don't see a reason to postpone
further the buy of SuSE's Linux distribution.

Thanks for the reply!
Zoki.

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From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Fri Apr 24 03:07:24 1998
From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Linux Proxy Server Authorization
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:07:24 -0500
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Kyle Edbauer wrote:

> I set up something like that using IP Masquerading.  It's a kernel
> option.  I think that there is some info on it in
> /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/Masquerading.  It lets the other
> two win 95 machines use my dialup connection while I'm using the
> connection.  It's really cool.  It sends the right packets to the right
> machines automagically.  Although 3 people sharing one modem does slow
> things down on occasion.
>

Thanx!  That sounds like something I could use.  So I went to look at the
documentation and set the Kernel up according to its directions.  I then used
Yast to change the configuration files to enable masquerading.  Still can't
get the connection:-(  But, I did discover that Suse has SMP already in, just
needed to be activated and reconfigured.  I did that, did the init 1... init 2
thing and boom, I could access all the file areas and printers on the linux
box as virtual drives:-)  Not real happy with the printer tho, it has a
problem printing in landscape mode:-(  But for most printouts, it does work
pretty well:-)

I still got the not authorized error when I tried to access the internet from
my win95 machine.  I think it may have something to do with trying to go thru
Apache?  I saw some instructions on how to set up Apache as a proxy server but
couldn't find the source files to do the reconfiguration and recompile with:-(

> If you set up diald,  your linux machine will start up your
> internet connection whenever it gets a request from any of the machines
> for a machine that you can't resolve in your hosts file.
>

BTW, is it necessary to activate RARP?  My internet connection is a
dynamically generated number.  How do you set that up in the masquerade?  From
what I understand of Masquerading, I want the packets to come to my Linux box
and then the Linux box reroutes them to the actual machine?

Thanx Loads!+


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From adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com Fri Apr 24 03:31:51 1998
From: adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing an internal Modem as Com3
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:31:51 -0400
Message-ID: <19980423233151.A9480@Hayson.vmarketing.com>
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On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 04:00:49PM -0400, World Leader Pretend wrote:
> > Hello list,
> > I'm installing an internal US Robotics Modem as Com3, with an IRQ of 5.
> > Do I have to make a new device file for this capability?? If so how?
>=20
> 	the device name of com3 is /dev/cua2 ...  (check your motherboard manual f=
or the which irqs are for which com ports) =20

Not trying to be picky about right answers but try and get away from the=20
/dev/cu* devices, they are going away in favor of /dev/ttyS*=20

com3 <=3D> /dev/ttyS2=20
=20

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From striepe@geo.uni-bonn.de Fri Apr 24 07:15:08 1998
From: striepe@geo.uni-bonn.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] felix-package working?
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:15:08 +0000
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Hi!

Has anybody used felix (algebra-tool) that came with 5.1 
and I poresume also with 5.2 amd maybe other releases?
In the distribution is a wrong link, but fixing this didn't help.

execution impossible, because of error message:
couldn't execute binary

Any similar experiences?
best regards,
arnulf

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From misc.word.corp@pobox.com Fri Apr 24 11:49:32 1998
From: misc.word.corp@pobox.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Ensonique AudioPCI/OSS
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:49:32 -0400
Message-ID: <35407C4C.2349989@pobox.com>
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Hubert,

Thanks for the advice -- and superfast response :-)

I changed char-major-14 to off (and did a rmmod sound to be sure), but OSS
still complains about "soundbase" and "soundshield," telling me to rmmod
soundbase and rmmod soundshield.

Is there any way to disable & remove soundbase/soundshield?

Also, the OSS homepage says that we need to do a "set CONFIG_PCI=y" to enable
PCI_BIOS support in the Linux kernel. Any idea what they're talking about??

Glenn

Hubert Mantel wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, misc.word.corp wrote:
>
> > I've been trying to run OSS to configure my Ensonique AudioPCI
> > soundcard, but I get the following error messages on ". /oss-install"
> > rmmod soundbase              device loaded or in use
> > rmmod soundshield             device loaded or in use
> >
> > OSS driver is already loaded
> > ./soundconf: line 111: 1074 Segmentation fault.
> > Use soundoff to unload it and try again.
> >
> > Of course, executing soundoff has no effect, because no OSS driver is
> > loaded at this point.
>
> Maybe running soundconf triggers the kerneld which loads the standard
> linux sound driver. Try modifying /etc/conf.modules from:
>
> alias char-major-14       sound
>
> to
>
> alias char-major-14       off
>
> this will prevent the kerneld to load the sound module when the device Maj
> 14 is accessed. To be sure, do a "rmmod sound" afterwards.
>
> > I'm using the current, Webpage version of OSS (*not* the version shipped
> > with 5.2) because it supports Ensonique AudioPCI. I've also installed
> > all the packages in the sound section (midi support, etc) -- perhaps I
> > should delete these packages and try again.
> >
> > Any solutions or ideas from anybody, or from Bodo, et. al. ?
> >
> > Otherwise, 5.2 is fantastic. Can't wait for 6.
> >
> > Glenn
>
>     Hubert
>
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From srr03@tid.es Fri Apr 24 14:28:45 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Realteck 8029 (zentara)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:28:45 +0200
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  Hi.

  Anyone hava a PCI Realteck 8029 working with Linux? Is it compatible
with any other network card?
I know zentara wrote that he (she?) got it. zentara, could you please
send again that message or help about installing it. Or any other, I
mean.
Thanks.

                Xanti


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From zokiphoto@magic.fr Fri Apr 24 15:04:14 1998
From: zokiphoto@magic.fr
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Attachements...
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:04:14 +0000
Message-ID: <3.0.3.16.19980424080414.414775b2@pop.magic.fr>
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I haven't been posting much concerning Linux to this list yet, but this
will come. However, I would like to ask listmembers NOT to send
attachements when posting to this mailinglist. Do this when in direct
contact with a listmember and after being asked for, or after warning the
recepient. There are people who are member of several lists, who use their
e-mail for professionnal purposes - and thus download a lot of mail. What
do you think will happen if everybody would be sending unasked
attachements!? Please keep this in mind.

Regards,
Zoki.

/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
ATTENTION
- Please send attachments with filenames in DOS format (8.3).
- S.V.P. envoyer les annexes avec le nom en format DOS (8.3).
  Merci!
\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\

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From lach@lach.net Fri Apr 24 15:13:14 1998
From: lach@lach.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing an internal Modem as Com3
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:13:14 -0500
Message-ID: <3540AC0A.35DDC164@lach.net>
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Andrew L. Davis wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 04:00:49PM -0400, World Leader Pretend wrote:
> > > Hello list,
> > > I'm installing an internal US Robotics Modem as Com3, with an IRQ of 5.
> > > Do I have to make a new device file for this capability?? If so how?
> >
> >       the device name of com3 is /dev/cua2 ...  (check your motherboard m=
anual for the which irqs are for which com ports)
>
> Not trying to be picky about right answers but try and get away from the
> /dev/cu* devices, they are going away in favor of /dev/ttyS*
>
> com3 <=3D> /dev/ttyS2
>

com3 ... Be it /dev/ttyS2 or /dev/cua2 aren't those devices wired for IRQ 4 ?=
??  What about the IRQ 5 requirement or is that
automatic??

Lach

PS I just installed 5.2, very nice, and KDE is coming along, life is good!!


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From billmadsen@worldnet.att.net Fri Apr 24 15:44:46 1998
From: billmadsen@worldnet.att.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printer problem
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:44:46 +0000
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  Since upgrading to 5.2 I have had the following printer problem:

The command lpr -Praw  [file] prints the following message:
     %[ Error:  undefined; Offending Command:  #include ] %
     .....
    followed by 13 lines of hex dump.

The log file in /var/spool/lpd/....  reads
   unexpected interpreter error  -21
  Error object:  #include  

'#include'  is the first word of the file.

This looks to me like a problem with apsfilter, but I am too ignorant
to know how to spot and correct it.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Bill Madsen in St. Louis 

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From satan@nfinity.com Fri Apr 24 16:04:37 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Attachments...
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:04:37 -0500
Message-ID: <3540B815.4EF71418@nfinity.com>
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I agree, however the attachments posted to this list are generally < 10k, so
it's not really a big deal if somebody accidentally posts their ppp scripts
to the list.  After all, it was done in the spirit of good will toward their
fellow SuSE user.  This list, btw, is very tolerant and well mannered
compared to the other lists I subscribe to.  It's refreshing and makes a nice
statement about the type of people using SuSE linux.

Zoki wrote:

> I haven't been posting much concerning Linux to this list yet, but this
> will come. However, I would like to ask listmembers NOT to send
> attachements when posting to this mailinglist. Do this when in direct
> contact with a listmember and after being asked for, or after warning the
> recepient. There are people who are member of several lists, who use their
> e-mail for professionnal purposes - and thus download a lot of mail. What
> do you think will happen if everybody would be sending unasked
> attachements!? Please keep this in mind.
>
> Regards,
> Zoki.
>
> /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> ATTENTION
> - Please send attachments with filenames in DOS format (8.3).
> - S.V.P. envoyer les annexes avec le nom en format DOS (8.3).
>   Merci!
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From andyford@fastrans.net Fri Apr 24 17:59:25 1998
From: andyford@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ftapev -> info-problems (was something else)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:59:25 -0500
Message-ID: <3540D2FD.D4243455@fastrans.net>
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Arnulf Striepecke wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > Hey Y'all
> > > I've got the ftape info files installed in /usr/info, but
> > > thay don't show up
> > > in the info dir file. I was jus gonna stick 'em in there but
> > > the file says
> > > "auto-configured by SuSE. do not edit" SO I was wondering
> > > how i can add things
> > > to the auto-config of my info dir.
> > > --
> > > yours,
> > > Andy
> 
> Here is my reply,
> sending it again.
> arnulf
> >
> > Hi!
> > As far as I know, and I presume you didn't install ftape with yast!,
> > you have to run mkinfodir, and thats all.
> > yast runs it itself when info-dir was changed.
> > and puts this message in, auto-conf.....
> > You could probalby run yast and do some changes that aren't real changes,
> > so that it call suseconfig and it will execute mkinfodir.
> >
> > arnulf
> >
> > --
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Unfortunately, it didn't help. I think I need to add it by
hand. 
Any dissenters?

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From slk@grace.acm.rpi.edu Fri Apr 24 18:13:02 1998
From: slk@grace.acm.rpi.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] GIMP and GTK 1.0 problem
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:13:02 -0400
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On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Simone Castellaneta wrote:

>=20
> As someone suggested me yesterday, I' ve removed Gimp and GTK 0.97, I
> installed GTK 1.0 (compiled source), I reinstalled Gimp but when I start
> Gimp, I get
>=20
> suse(a)Voyager:/home/suse > gimp
> parsing "/home/suse/.gimp/gtkrc"
> parsing "/usr/share/gimp/0.99.15/gimprc"
> parsing "/home/suse/.gimp/gimprc"
> parsing "/home/suse/.gimp/pluginrc"
> /usr/lib/gimp/0.99.15/plug-ins/script-fu: can't resolve symbol 'g_string_ha=
sh'
> /usr/lib/gimp/0.99.15/plug-ins/script-fu: can't resolve symbol 'g_string_eq=
ual'

Here's what I'd strongly recommend, and this is how I upgraded both
Gimp and GTK:

1) remove all traces of the SuSE gimp and gtk from your system
2) install latest gtk in /usr/local
3) compile latest gimp against latest gtk in /usr/local

Unless you're on a slow machine, this is really the way to do it.

The problem is just that 5.1's gimp and gtk date back from when
5.1 was new :)

Simon Karpen	karpes(a)rpi.edu		slk(a)acm.rpi.edu
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From adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com Fri Apr 24 22:05:25 1998
From: adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing an internal Modem as Com3
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:05:25 -0400
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On Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 10:13:14AM -0500, Lachlan Dunlop wrote:
> com3 ... Be it /dev/ttyS2 or /dev/cua2 aren't those devices wired for IRQ 4=
 ???  What about the IRQ 5 requirement or is that
> automatic??

You can set the value in the bios, there is a limited selection.


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From adcarlso@visinet.ca Sat Apr 25 02:50:51 1998
From: adcarlso@visinet.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printing Problems in 5.2
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:50:51 -0400
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I too am having similar problems to others with my HP Deskjet now that I have
upgraded to SuSE 5.2

Basically ASCII files no longer print out properly with the RAW driver.  I get
a resultant collection of lines of errors.

The solution would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
----------------------------------
Arlen Carlson
adcarlso(a)visinet.ca

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From gordster@juno.com Sat Apr 25 04:43:41 1998
From: gordster@juno.com
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C'mon--  don't tease him.  Just tell him straight out.

On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Joshua Rodmanius
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From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Sat Apr 25 04:57:50 1998
From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Linux Proxy Server Authorization
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 23:57:50 -0500
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Kyle Edbauer wrote:

> Leon McClatchey writes:
>
> Did you add users for your Win 95 machines on you linux machine?  Also
> you need to add your ISP name servers to /etc/rc.config.  Add the Win 95
> machines to /etc/hosts.  Configure the Win 95 machine to use the linux
> box as a gateway and I think as a name server.  Also there is a script
> on the Suse site on Masquerading/firewalls that you need to pick up.
>

Actually, the users were on the Linux box before they got added to the Win95
machine, and the same users are on both.  (I've got the Win95 machine set up =
for
individual profiles).  There is a box on the Win95 in the Tcp/ip protocol tha=
t I
checked for a gateway server and gave the Linux IP address.  It still came up=
 with
an unathorized error so I also checked the proxy box.  I haven't found a file=
 on the
Win95 machine to declare name servers, tho I finally found the Hosts and Netw=
orks
files and put my linux box name and address in both those files.  I do know t=
hat
/etc/resolv.conf is used to declare the nameservers in Linux, does that mean =
I need
to "create c:\windows\resolve" to declare my linux box as a name server?

> I don't think that RARP is necessary.  My ISP is dynamic also.  You
> really don't need to set that up in Masquerading.  I think that if you
> have your ISP nameservers entered in /etc/rc.config, when win 95 tries
> to access outside sites your linux box routes to the ISP name servers.
> So really you linux box routes to your ISP who routes to the outside
> world.
>

I did just check, and all of my ISP nameservers are listed in /etc/rc.config =
(though
I did have to make one minor change as one of my nameservers changed from a .=
com to
a .net, but I still have to run yast to update the /etc/resolv.conf)

> Hope this helps
>

Helped quite a bit:-)  as soon as I finish reading the mail, I plan to check =
the
suse sight to see if I can find that script you're talking about:-)

Thanx Loads!


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From lach@lach.net Sat Apr 25 12:36:34 1998
From: lach@lach.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing an internal Modem as Com3
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 13:36:34 +0100
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Andrew,

I guess you missed my point. If Curt has an internal modem set for Com3, IRQ =
5.  It has nothing to do with the bios in the PC
weather linux will see the modem when you use the device /dev/ttyS2.  I'm pre=
tty sure /dev/ttyS2 is looking at the same I/O
location but it is looking on IRQ 4, not IRQ 5.

Later

Lach

Andrew L. Davis wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 10:13:14AM -0500, Lachlan Dunlop wrote:
> > com3 ... Be it /dev/ttyS2 or /dev/cua2 aren't those devices wired for IRQ=
 4 ???  What about the IRQ 5 requirement or is that
> > automatic??
>
> You can set the value in the bios, there is a limited selection.
>
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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Sat Apr 25 14:44:29 1998
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Printer Kaputt!
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 16:44:29 +0200
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On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Juergen Braukmann wrote:

> I usually use "lpc up all". (there are a hell more lpc commands)
> I do not know wether they are the same, you might try "lpc restart all"
> as well.
> sometimes (on my printserver machine running samba) the printer hangs
> like that, the next job starts the first and gets stuck. just to save i
> even run a small cron job every 10 min....
> 
> Jürgen

Hi Juergen!,

Thanks for the help. It was my APS filter messed up. I had tried to change
the number of lines to print (i.e. 66) to maybe 64 or so. I reinstalled
APS and it fixed it. But now I'm back to my original problem. When I print
a multi-page file under the raw filter it prints a full page and then 1 to
3 lines next page. It then skips to the third page and prints a full page.
In other words every other page has only 1 to 3 lines on it. When I try to
print a 10 page file it takes about 20 pages. 

Any ideas?

Thanks 

JIM

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From sodah@qatar.net.qa Sat Apr 25 16:26:00 1998
From: sodah@qatar.net.qa
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] error in file system
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 18:26:00 +0200
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hi ppl,

When i start my linux-box, i got the following msg:
-------------------------------------------
Uncompressing Linux...done.
Now booting the Kernel
ide_setup: hdb=cdrom
console:16 point font, 400 scans
console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000f0280
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xf0210
pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0200
Probing PCI hardware.
Calibration delay loop...ok -39.94 BogoMIPS
Memory: 30688k/32768k available (772k kernel code, 384k reserved, 924k data
SwANSEA University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.034
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
checking 386/387 coupling ...ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
checking 'hlt' instruction...ok.
Linux version 2.0.29 (root(a)Mandelbrot.suse.de) gcc version 2.7.2.1 .....
serial driver cersion 4.13 with no serial options enabled
tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq =4) is a 16550A
tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq =3) is a 16550A
PS/2 auiliary pointing device detected -- driver installed.
tpqic02: Runtime config, $Revision: 0.4.1.5 $, $Date:1994.....
tpqic02: DMA buffers:20 blocks, at address 0x1fde00 (0x1fdc50)
ftape-2.08 960314 for Linux 1.3.70
Ramdisk driver initialized: 16 ramdisks of 4096K size
ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
ide: BM-DMA feature is not enabled (BIOS)
hda: ST51080A,1033MB w/256kB Cache, LBA,CHS=525/64/63
hdb: ATAPI cdrom
ide at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Floppy driver(s): fd0 is 1.44
started kswapd v .4.2.2
FDC 0 is apost-1991 82077
Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 hda6>
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
INIT: Version 2.65f booting
Running /sbin/init.d/boot.
Activating swap-devices in /etc/fstab..
Adding Swap: 50364k swap-space
Running update (bdflush) daemon.
checking file systems
Parallelizing fsck version 1.06 (7-Oct-96)
/dev/hda2 contains a file system errors, check forced.
hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: read_intr: status=0x40 { UncorrectableError }. LBAsect=385922,
sector=18029
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02, sector 180290
hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: read_intr: status=0x40 { UncorrectableError }. LBAsect=385922,
sector=18029
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02, sector 180290
Error reading block 90145 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted
in short
read) while doing inode scan.

/dev/hda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENC; RUN fsck MANUALLY
(i.e., without -a or -p options)
Loading /etc/default.keytab

fsck failed. Please repair maually and report. The root file system is
currently mounted
read-only. To remount it read-write do:
  bash# mount -n -o remount, rw /
Attention: Only Control-D will reboot the system in this maintanance mode.
shutdown or reboot will not work.

Give root password to login:
-------------------------------------------------------------------

What shall i do?

Thx in advance
fadi


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From slk@grace.acm.rpi.edu Sat Apr 25 17:19:30 1998
From: slk@grace.acm.rpi.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Any experiences with SOLID (database)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 13:19:30 -0400
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From slk@grace.acm.rpi.edu Sat Apr 25 17:21:44 1998
From: slk@grace.acm.rpi.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] experiences with SOLID (database for Linux)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 13:21:44 -0400
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Has anybody had good or bad experiences with SOLID (Linux server,
running client-server) (home page http://www.solidtech.com/>)

It sounds good, and it's the only one I could find that has
Linux server and OS/2 clients.=20

I know some fairly large sites are using it, but I'd also like to hear
about things like ease of actually setting up databases, client-server
performance, anything.

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From rhumbert@avignon.pacwan.net Sat Apr 25 17:48:01 1998
From: rhumbert@avignon.pacwan.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing an internal Modem as Com3
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 19:48:01 +0200
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Le Sat, 25 Apr 1998, vous avez =C3=A9crit :
>On Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 10:13:14AM -0500, Lachlan Dunlop wrote:
>> com3 ... Be it /dev/ttyS2 or /dev/cua2 aren't those devices wired for IRQ =
4 ???  What about the IRQ 5 requirement or is that
>> automatic??

Some internal modems have IRQ 5 as standard setting (like my internal USR
sporster 36000) but there's no problem under linux as long as you allow it to=
 be
autodetected in /sbin/init.d/serial=20

Regis

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From sodah@qatar.net.qa Sat Apr 25 22:13:33 1998
From: sodah@qatar.net.qa
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] error file system
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 00:13:33 +0200
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> To: 
> 
> hi ppl,
> 
> When i start my linux-box, i got the following msg:
> -------------------------------------------
> Uncompressing Linux...done.
> Now booting the Kernel
> ide_setup: hdb=cdrom
> console:16 point font, 400 scans
> console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
> pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000f0280
> pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xf0210
> pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0200
> Probing PCI hardware.
> Calibration delay loop...ok -39.94 BogoMIPS
> Memory: 30688k/32768k available (772k kernel code, 384k reserved, 924k data
> SwANSEA University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
> NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.034
> IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
> checking 386/387 coupling ...ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
> checking 'hlt' instruction...ok.
> Linux version 2.0.29 (root(a)Mandelbrot.suse.de) gcc version 2.7.2.1 .....
> serial driver cersion 4.13 with no serial options enabled
> tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq =4) is a 16550A
> tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq =3) is a 16550A
> PS/2 auiliary pointing device detected -- driver installed.
> tpqic02: Runtime config, $Revision: 0.4.1.5 $, $Date:1994.....
> tpqic02: DMA buffers:20 blocks, at address 0x1fde00 (0x1fdc50)
> ftape-2.08 960314 for Linux 1.3.70
> Ramdisk driver initialized: 16 ramdisks of 4096K size
> ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
> ide: BM-DMA feature is not enabled (BIOS)
> hda: ST51080A,1033MB w/256kB Cache, LBA,CHS=525/64/63
> hdb: ATAPI cdrom
> ide at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> Floppy driver(s): fd0 is 1.44
> started kswapd v .4.2.2
> FDC 0 is apost-1991 82077
> Partition check:
>  hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 hda6>
> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
> INIT: Version 2.65f booting
> Running /sbin/init.d/boot.
> Activating swap-devices in /etc/fstab..
> Adding Swap: 50364k swap-space
> Running update (bdflush) daemon.
> checking file systems
> Parallelizing fsck version 1.06 (7-Oct-96)
> /dev/hda2 contains a file system errors, check forced.
> hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
> hda: read_intr: status=0x40 { UncorrectableError }. LBAsect=385922,
> sector=18029
> end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02, sector 180290
> hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
> hda: read_intr: status=0x40 { UncorrectableError }. LBAsect=385922,
> sector=18029
> end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02, sector 180290
> Error reading block 90145 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted
> in short
> read) while doing inode scan.
> 
> /dev/hda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENC; RUN fsck MANUALLY
> (i.e., without -a or -p options)
> Loading /etc/default.keytab
> 
> fsck failed. Please repair maually and report. The root file system is
> currently mounted
> read-only. To remount it read-write do:
>   bash# mount -n -o remount, rw /
> Attention: Only Control-D will reboot the system in this maintanance mode.
> shutdown or reboot will not work.
> 
> Give root password to login:
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> What shall i do?
> 
> Thx in advance
> fadi

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From pbnt@mindspring.com Sun Apr 26 00:45:15 1998
From: pbnt@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. name and logo
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 20:45:15 -0400
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 Just a note to say how much I am enjoying your 5.2 S.u.S.E. distribution of
Linux. But I have a couple of questions...nothing too serious. What do the
initials in the name stand for (I assume they were originally in German) and
what is the significance of the little green "critter" you use for a logo.
That's all.

Thanks for a great package of a great product.

Phil Bennett


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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Sun Apr 26 01:03:57 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] This is a test.
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 21:03:57 -0400
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Is this NG quiet today, or am I not receiving messages?


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From hettar@teleport.com Sun Apr 26 03:34:01 1998
From: hettar@teleport.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] BlackBox WM (wish list)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 20:34:01 -0700
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Hello SuSE:

I have asked the writter of BlackBox wm
if I could ask SuSE if they would put=20
blackbox wm on thier distro disk as=20
part of thier wm collection.

------------
nyztihke: mind if I ask SuSE to put Black Box on
          its distro disk (on a wish list) as part
          of thier collection of wm(s) they include?
          (they got like 8 or 9 different wms on=20
          thier disks)

 Ooog:  i dont mind at al

* nyztihke tests one last thing and decides=20
  to release a pre0.30.0 blackbox
-------------
 What does Blackbox have that I want?

 Blackbox sports a very attractive and simple=20
 interface that is fast. Blackbox takes very
 little space in memory (and equally as less
 on disk). Blackbox is almost completely
 ICCCM v2.0 compliant (see below for details)
 and is compatible with all recent (and
 some not so recent) X client applications.=20
 Programs using Motif, Qt, Xt, raw Xlib or any
 other toolkit will behave properly under Blackbox.

This was taken from IRC #linux on undernet.org

BlackBox WM if found at :

http://linux.wiw.org/blackbox/>


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From thehaas@ravine.binary.net Sun Apr 26 04:23:32 1998
From: thehaas@ravine.binary.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Allied net card
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 23:23:32 -0500
Message-ID: <199804260423.XAA02895@ravine.binary.net>
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I lent a friend my Suse 5.0 cd's.  He is having a problem getting the=20
system to recognize his/the school's Allied Telesyn AT2000 network card.
It is an NE2000-compatible card, which the Suse online support db says=20
bad things about.  But the card doesn't freeze the system, the system can't
even get the network going.  Also, there is no /dev/eth0.

Any ideas, anyone??

- mikeh


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From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Sun Apr 26 04:50:30 1998
From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Linux Proxy Server Authorization
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 23:50:30 -0500
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Kyle Edbauer wrote:

> I don't think that RARP is necessary.  My ISP is dynamic also.  You
> really don't need to set that up in Masquerading.  I think that if you
> have your ISP nameservers entered in /etc/rc.config, when win 95 tries
> to access outside sites your linux box routes to the ISP name servers.
> So really you linux box routes to your ISP who routes to the outside
> world.
>

Thanx Loads!  I got the problem solved:-)  The problem was with the apache se=
rver
that was installed with Suse 5.1.  All I could find was the bineries.  Had to=
 get
the sources to recompile to enable proxy service.  So, I went to the Apache w=
ebsite
and downloaded version 1.3b.  Configured, Made it, Installed it, Now both the=
 linux
box and the Win95 box can access the internet at the same time:-)  Still got =
some
minor bugs to work out, but that will happen within the next few days:-)

I did find that script at the suse site, but for some strange reason it didn'=
t work
to well on my system (also discovered that it was the same script in the Fire=
wall
documentation on my system) Also I did discover that there was already a fire=
wall
script set up in /sbin/init.d:-)

Now, the next little project is to set up the linux box to automatically go o=
ut and
get the mail, deliver it to the various user's home mail slots, then set up a=
 pop3
server on Linux so that when someone logs in on Win95, they can get their mai=
l (or
send it and it will be saved until the "mail script runs again":-)

Thanx Loads!


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Leon McClatchey
mailto:leonmcclatchey(a)home=
mail.com

Party on Linux:-)

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From hettar@teleport.com Sun Apr 26 06:54:20 1998
From: hettar@teleport.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
 [S.u.S.E. Linux] wm (I need starting help) when Fvwm2 button doesn't have it.
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 23:54:20 -0700
Message-ID: <3542DA1C.5A774D6B@teleport.com>
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Hello SuSE

I have a wm I compiled,maked and maked install

I would like to use the Fvwm2 button (between the pine icon,S.u.S.E...
Icon)
under X fvwm2 start up screen to switch to this wm I compiled and
installed.

The exe of the wm is in /usr/X11R6/bin

I would like to know how to add the wm to be able to switch to it,
just like afterstep and under the unconfigured E and olwm.

I am not good at this sorta thing: (yet)

The wm said to edit .xinitrc and/or .xsession to use the
newly installed exe files. But not exactly what, and I=20
looked into them and .xsession said not to edit it..
and .xinitrc was very long (got lost)

If this can't be done how would I startx with it?

Am sure if I get this figured out, I wont have to ask again.


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From nils@work.de Sun Apr 26 17:01:48 1998
From: nils@work.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Realteck 8029 (zentara)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 19:01:48 +0200
Message-ID: <199804261703.TAA01271@sorcerer.work.de>
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At 16:28 24.04.98 +0200, you wrote:
>=C2=A0 Anyone hava a PCI Realteck 8029 working with Linux? Is it compatible
>with any other network card?

I have a longshine pci network card that seems to have thatchipset (uses
"realtek 8029" driver on win95). It is detected successfully on my system
using
the Ne2000 kernel module.

Hope this helps.

Nils

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From mailinfo@cgicon.com Sun Apr 26 17:19:39 1998
From: mailinfo@cgicon.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Problems with Wabi 2.2
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 01:19:39 +0800
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Hubert Mantel wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Martin Houston wrote:
>=20
> > > I bought Wabi for Linux to run Word in it. After the installation I got
> > > problems with the current color depth. I'm using a default depth of 16 =
bit.
> > > When wabi starts the only result is that I'm get the message:
> > >
> > > X Server has unsupported default depth
> > > Unrecoverable Error in Wabi
> > >
> > > Unsupported display depth 16 in init_gdi.
> > >
> > > Wabi will exit now.
> > >
> > >
> > > I tried it with using 8 bit as the default depth and it works. Is there
> > > a possibility which enables wabi to work under 16 bit color depth ??
> > > A special switch or sth.
> > >
> > The only way to fudge it is to use the Olivetti VNC software to
> > bring up an 8 bit VNC session within a 16 bit window. Wabi works but
> > is a bit sedate because of the extra software layer.
>=20
> There is another solution: try the experimental Xnest X Server. This
> allows for nesting X Servers, so you are able to run an 8 bit server
> inside of an 16 bit one. Xnest is in package xextra.

Hi,
due to some discussions I had on the wabi list in the
last time, the Xnest cannot support an embedded 8-bit
wabi, if Xnest is running with 16-bit (unfortunately).

One suggestion was to use Accelerated-X.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Excerpts from wabi: 10-Apr-98 Re: msoffice 4.3 (...BOCHS+.. Ashok
Aiyar(a)ebv.oncology (1204*)

> The Xi Graphics (AccelaratedX) server for some cards (eg. Matrox=20
> Millenium II) supports overlays.  For such servers, it is possible to
> start Xnest at a different depth than the "root" server.

> Xi Graphics has a list of cards/chipsets for which they have a server
> that supports overlays on their website (www.xig.com).

> I do use overlays (24+8) mode with my Millenium II, and it *is* really
> nice to be able to run WABI in an 8-bit Xnest.

I'm assuming that you're using Xnest so that your Wabi apps aren't
sticky.  I recall having sticky apps problems some months ago.  I've
since added CDE and the window manager (dtwm) runs in a way that makes
Wabi not be sticky.  This is true of both Tri-Teal and Xi Graphics
versions of CDE.

Dick
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From mailinfo@cgicon.com Sun Apr 26 18:17:12 1998
From: mailinfo@cgicon.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] HELP- howto mount SCO-part.ID#63 ?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 02:17:12 +0800
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Hi fellows

Howto mount SCO-part.ID#63  and access the content ?
fdisk shows:  Partition ID: 63   GNU HURD

To resque data and apps residing on an old SCO partition,
I first made a copy of the partition (Powerquest DriveImage)
and transferred it to another SCSI and also to an IDE drive.

There on a new machine I installed SuSE, Caldera and was
unable to mount the partition with the driver: sysv
(I checked that the sysv is available as module in both
 distrib. and I loaded it manually and checked - Ok.)
The sysv is meant to mount SCO, XENIX and Coherent, but
I cannot find info about the supported IDs.

Then I installed SCO OpenServer 5 on the same machine, to
make shure I have the same ID# and try to mount
the old part. with the new SCO. This experience was
very disappointing, since SCO creates ONE partition
with the ID# 63 and puts it's own work partitions inside
this ONE !   Using SCO, I tried to mount the old partition,
but SCO is unable to see any foreign partitions on the drive -=20
strange for me, life seems more convenient if using Linux.
One AIX guy also had no answer for that, he told me, that
AIX behaves like Linux concerning the partitions.

(The idea using a new SCO was to mount the old part., then
transfer all content from SCO-box to a Linux box using NFS)

I still need to access the content of this old SCO partition.
Can anybody help me with this issue - please ? Experience ?

Thanks very much.


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From thehaas@ravine.binary.net Sun Apr 26 20:21:48 1998
From: thehaas@ravine.binary.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Athena Network Card
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 15:21:48 -0500
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I lent a friend my Suse 5.0 cd's.  He is having a problem getting the=20
system to recognize his/the school's Allied Telesyn AT2000 network card.
It is an NE2000-compatible card, which the Suse online support db says=20
bad things about.  But the card doesn't freeze the system, the system can't
even get the network going.  Also, there is no /dev/eth0.

Any ideas, anyone??

- mikeh

P.S. I apologize if you get this message twice.

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||    stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system,       ||
||    *for free*".'              - Linus Torvalds                           ||
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From martin_moeller@ibm.net Sun Apr 26 22:25:40 1998
From: martin_moeller@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Grabbing KDM?
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 23:25:40 +0100
Message-ID: <3543B464.FDF@ibm.net>
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Hello!

I have trouble with xgrabsc 'segmentation fault'-ing right now,
and I don't know why. Would xgrabsc be able to capture a KDM screen
(cmd-line other console)? If it 'worked' that is?

Also, gimp stopped working after I compiled gtk v1.0.0 -- why is that, I
wonder?

I am compiling a list of things that could use improving to make
S.u.S.E. leap another 1000 feet above the competition ;)

Anyone in particular I should mail it to?

All for now.. I'm sure I forgot something, but...

Ciao,

 Martin Moeller.


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From srr03@tid.es Mon Apr 27 07:56:29 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printer Kaputt!
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:56:29 +0200
Message-ID: <35443A2D.2DF1744D@tid.es>
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  I had that problem about samba. Samba uses the 'nobody' user to print. And
that was the problem. If I tried to print as root, no trouble, but when I
tried to print as any other user I rececive a message about the queue.
Something like 'warning: the queue is down'. I just do 'lpc start all' (no
'restart') and everything works fine. I don't understand why the queues stop
when they want (if they do).

            Xanti

Juergen Braukmann wrote:

> Jim Hatridge wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Once again I'm having hell with my printer. I've an old HP Deskjet 500
> > with an APS filter. I printed part of a file with "lpr -Praw file". This
> > printed fine, but now it will not print at all. I tried "lpc clean all"
> > and still will not print. I even resetup the aps filter.
> >
> I usually use "lpc up all". (there are a hell more lpc commands)
> I do not know wether they are the same, you might try "lpc restart all"
> as well.
> sometimes (on my printserver machine running samba) the printer hangs
> like that, the next job starts the first and gets stuck. just to save i
> even run a small cron job every 10 min....
>
> Jürgen


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From srr03@tid.es Mon Apr 27 10:39:52 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] wm (I need starting help) when Fvwm2 button
 doesn't have it.
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:39:52 +0200
Message-ID: <35446078.C4D2E01D@tid.es>
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If I'm able to remember, you should change it in the .xinitrc (for the
user in question). There is a environment variable (something like WM...)
that you should change. Or you can just execute you wm at the end of the
.xinitrc, where it is written fvwm2.
Good luck.

        Santi

Steven Udell wrote:

> Hello SuSE
>
> I have a wm I compiled,maked and maked install
>
> I would like to use the Fvwm2 button (between the pine icon,S.u.S.E...
> Icon)
> under X fvwm2 start up screen to switch to this wm I compiled and
> installed.
>
> The exe of the wm is in /usr/X11R6/bin
>
> I would like to know how to add the wm to be able to switch to it,
> just like afterstep and under the unconfigured E and olwm.
>
> I am not good at this sorta thing: (yet)
>
> The wm said to edit .xinitrc and/or .xsession to use the
> newly installed exe files. But not exactly what, and I
> looked into them and .xsession said not to edit it..
> and .xinitrc was very long (got lost)
>
> If this can't be done how would I startx with it?
>
> Am sure if I get this figured out, I wont have to ask again.
>
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From srr03@tid.es Mon Apr 27 11:54:24 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Athena Network Card
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:54:24 +0200
Message-ID: <354471F0.7F4EEC73@tid.es>
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Make sure you compiled the kernel with NE2000 compatible network cards enable=
d and
PCI if it is. If Linux doesn't see it, then you should say that the card is n=
ot
compatible at all.
Good luck

        Xanti

Mike Hostetler wrote:

> I lent a friend my Suse 5.0 cd's.  He is having a problem getting the
> system to recognize his/the school's Allied Telesyn AT2000 network card.
> It is an NE2000-compatible card, which the Suse online support db says
> bad things about.  But the card doesn't freeze the system, the system can't
> even get the network going.  Also, there is no /dev/eth0.
>
> Any ideas, anyone??
>
> - mikeh
>
> P.S. I apologize if you get this message twice.
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>
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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Mon Apr 27 12:46:00 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. name and logo
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:46:00 +0200
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S.u.S.E. is (S)oftware (u)nd (S)ystem(e)ntwicklung
which means "Software and Systemdevelopment"

And it's not a critter 8^D !!! C'mon... it's a chameleon !
Check out the XSuSE-logo: it's clearer on it ;-)
(http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html>)

Pascal
 l'irr=C3=A9ductible Linuxien
-----Original Message-----
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To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date: lundi 27 avril 1998 15:29
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. name and logo

>
> Just a note to say how much I am enjoying your 5.2 S.u.S.E. distribution
of
>Linux. But I have a couple of questions...nothing too serious. What do the
>initials in the name stand for (I assume they were originally in German)
and
>what is the significance of the little green "critter" you use for a logo.
>That's all.
>
>Thanks for a great package of a great product.
>
>Phil Bennett
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From Marius.Augenstein@alcatel.de Mon Apr 27 13:04:47 1998
From: Marius.Augenstein@alcatel.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. name and logo
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:04:47 +0200
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Hy Phil

The abbreviation S.u.S.E. stands for "Gesellschaft f=C3=BCr _S_oftware _u_nd =

_S_ystem_e_ntwicklung". It means "Company for Software- and Systemdevelopemen=
t".
But don't ask me for what this "critter" stand for. Perhaps just a senseless
(but beautyful ..;-)) mascot ...


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From lach@lach.net Mon Apr 27 13:18:48 1998
From: lach@lach.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing an internal Modem as Com3
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:18:48 +0100
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Andrew,

I guess you missed my point. If Curt has an internal modem set for Com3, IRQ =
5.  It has nothing to do with the bios in the PC
weather linux will see the modem when you use the device /dev/ttyS2.  I'm pre=
tty sure /dev/ttyS2 is looking at the same I/O
location but it is looking on IRQ 4, not IRQ 5.

Later

Lach

Andrew L. Davis wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 10:13:14AM -0500, Lachlan Dunlop wrote:
> > com3 ... Be it /dev/ttyS2 or /dev/cua2 aren't those devices wired for IRQ=
 4 ???  What about the IRQ 5 requirement or is that
> > automatic??
>
> You can set the value in the bios, there is a limited selection.
>
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From srr03@tid.es Mon Apr 27 13:20:12 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] delete under vi
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:20:12 +0200
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  Anyone had a problem with vi about the 'delete' key? I had no problem
until now. When I push it in 'insert' mode, '^?' is written. I don't
know why. I didn't change any vi options and didn't modify the keyboard
table.
Any idea?
Thanks a lot.

        Xanti


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From weis@dom.hws.edu Mon Apr 27 13:48:07 1998
From: weis@dom.hws.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] error in file system
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:48:07 -0400
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On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Fadi Sodah wrote:

> hi ppl,
> 
> When i start my linux-box, i got the following msg:
> -------------------------------------------
> Parallelizing fsck version 1.06 (7-Oct-96)
> /dev/hda2 contains a file system errors, check forced.
> hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
> hda: read_intr: status=0x40 { UncorrectableError }. LBAsect=385922,
> sector=18029
> end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02, sector 180290
> hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
> hda: read_intr: status=0x40 { UncorrectableError }. LBAsect=385922,
> sector=18029
> end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02, sector 180290
> Error reading block 90145 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted
> in short
> read) while doing inode scan.
> 
> /dev/hda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENC; RUN fsck MANUALLY
> (i.e., without -a or -p options)
> Loading /etc/default.keytab
> 
> fsck failed. Please repair maually and report. The root file system is
> currently mounted
> read-only. To remount it read-write do:
>   bash# mount -n -o remount, rw /
> Attention: Only Control-D will reboot the system in this maintanance mode.
> shutdown or reboot will not work.
> 
> Give root password to login:
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
I do "fsck /dev/hda2". There is a print out of the man page of fsck in the
SuSE handbook. You can read that. I hope that helps.

Dominik

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From brauki@cww.de Mon Apr 27 15:22:44 1998
From: brauki@cww.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] This is a test.
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:22:44 +0200
Message-ID: <3544A2C4.66B59EFB@cww.de>
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Steven T. Hatton wrote:
> 
> Is this NG quiet today, or am I not receiving messages?
> 
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all SuSE Lists were quite for me that weekend , too.

Juergen

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From Marius.Augenstein@alcatel.de Mon Apr 27 15:32:20 1998
From: Marius.Augenstein@alcatel.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] delete under vi
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:32:20 +0200
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srr03(a)tid.es wrote:
> 
>   Anyone had a problem with vi about the 'delete' key? I had no problem
> until now. When I push it in 'insert' mode, '^?' is written. I don't
> know why. I didn't change any vi options and didn't modify the keyboard
> table.
> Any idea?
> Thanks a lot.
> 
>         Xanti
Hy Xanti

Try: stty erase ^? 
in your shell.
  

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From gecko@benham.net Mon Apr 27 16:19:08 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Athena Network Card
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:19:08 -0700
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Is this PCI?  This might be obvious but I forget about 300f each new
system I work on... The PCI cards we use here at work will look for a link
BEFORE initializing.  I have to remember to have atleast a palm hub hooked
to the card at boot time.
=20
On 26-Apr-98 Mike Hostetler wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I lent a friend my Suse 5.0 cd's.  He is having a problem getting the=20
> system to recognize his/the school's Allied Telesyn AT2000 network card.
> It is an NE2000-compatible card, which the Suse online support db says=20
> bad things about.  But the card doesn't freeze the system, the system can't
> even get the network going.  Also, there is no /dev/eth0.
>=20
> Any ideas, anyone??
>=20
> - mikeh
>=20
> P.S. I apologize if you get this message twice.
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From satan@nfinity.com Mon Apr 27 16:21:26 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] error file system
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:21:26 -0500
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I got the same error once when I was new to linux.   If /dev/hda on your box =
is
home to both linux and windows and you defragment in windows it screws up the
partition table for linux, or something.  Say you have a 2 gig drive, and you
repartition, giving windows 1 gig and linux 1 gig.  Windows still sees A: as
being two gigs.  No big deal, you know it's only a gig.  But if you defrag in
windows it creates problems.  I don't think you can recover from that.  I
reinstalled when it happened to me.  Sorry to be vague, I don't fully underst=
and
what gets screwed up, but it did happen to me, and I ended up having to
reinstall.  Perhaps Bodo or someone more qualified can provide a better
explanation of what happened.

Fadi Sodah wrote:

> > To: 
> >
> > hi ppl,
> >
> > When i start my linux-box, i got the following msg:
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Uncompressing Linux...done.
> > Now booting the Kernel
> > ide_setup: hdb=3Dcdrom
> > console:16 point font, 400 scans
> > console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
> > pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000f0280
> > pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xf0210
> > pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0200
> > Probing PCI hardware.
> > Calibration delay loop...ok -39.94 BogoMIPS
> > Memory: 30688k/32768k available (772k kernel code, 384k reserved, 924k da=
ta
> > SwANSEA University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
> > NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.034
> > IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
> > checking 386/387 coupling ...ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
> > checking 'hlt' instruction...ok.
> > Linux version 2.0.29 (root(a)Mandelbrot.suse.de) gcc version 2.7.2.1 .....
> > serial driver cersion 4.13 with no serial options enabled
> > tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq =3D4) is a 16550A
> > tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq =3D3) is a 16550A
> > PS/2 auiliary pointing device detected -- driver installed.
> > tpqic02: Runtime config, $Revision: 0.4.1.5 $, $Date:1994.....
> > tpqic02: DMA buffers:20 blocks, at address 0x1fde00 (0x1fdc50)
> > ftape-2.08 960314 for Linux 1.3.70
> > Ramdisk driver initialized: 16 ramdisks of 4096K size
> > ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
> > ide: BM-DMA feature is not enabled (BIOS)
> > hda: ST51080A,1033MB w/256kB Cache, LBA,CHS=3D525/64/63
> > hdb: ATAPI cdrom
> > ide at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> > Floppy driver(s): fd0 is 1.44
> > started kswapd v .4.2.2
> > FDC 0 is apost-1991 82077
> > Partition check:
> >  hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 hda6>
> > VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
> > INIT: Version 2.65f booting
> > Running /sbin/init.d/boot.
> > Activating swap-devices in /etc/fstab..
> > Adding Swap: 50364k swap-space
> > Running update (bdflush) daemon.
> > checking file systems
> > Parallelizing fsck version 1.06 (7-Oct-96)
> > /dev/hda2 contains a file system errors, check forced.
> > hda: read_intr: status=3D0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error=
 }
> > hda: read_intr: status=3D0x40 { UncorrectableError }. LBAsect=3D385922,
> > sector=3D18029
> > end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02, sector 180290
> > hda: read_intr: status=3D0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error=
 }
> > hda: read_intr: status=3D0x40 { UncorrectableError }. LBAsect=3D385922,
> > sector=3D18029
> > end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02, sector 180290
> > Error reading block 90145 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted
> > in short
> > read) while doing inode scan.
> >
> > /dev/hda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENC; RUN fsck MANUALLY
> > (i.e., without -a or -p options)
> > Loading /etc/default.keytab
> >
> > fsck failed. Please repair maually and report. The root file system is
> > currently mounted
> > read-only. To remount it read-write do:
> >   bash# mount -n -o remount, rw /
> > Attention: Only Control-D will reboot the system in this maintanance mode.
> > shutdown or reboot will not work.
> >
> > Give root password to login:
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > What shall i do?
> >
> > Thx in advance
> > fadi
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From gecko@benham.net Mon Apr 27 16:24:53 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] delete under vi
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:24:53 -0700
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I got that when I incorperated a new .cshrc that was non-SuSE.  SuSE went to a
lot of trouble to set up the keymaps so that it works with just about every
software package.  (I have problems with X-Forms programs but that might be a
problem in the X-Forms package).  Changes to files like .cshrc and .profile
need to be CAREFULLY considered, esp. if they deal with keys.

On 27-Apr-98 Santiago Rodriguez wrote:
>=20
>   Anyone had a problem with vi about the 'delete' key? I had no problem
> until now. When I push it in 'insert' mode, '^?' is written. I don't
> know why. I didn't change any vi options and didn't modify the keyboard
> table.
> Any idea?
> Thanks a lot.
>=20
>         Xanti
>=20
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From gecko@benham.net Mon Apr 27 16:26:43 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing an internal Modem as Com3
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:26:43 -0700
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Try looking in the file /sbin/init.d/serial.  It's pretty well documented with
TONS and TONS of samples.

On 27-Apr-98 Lachlan Dunlop wrote:
>=20
> Andrew,
>=20
> I guess you missed my point. If Curt has an internal modem set for Com3, IRQ
> 5.  It has nothing to do with the bios in the PC
> weather linux will see the modem when you use the device /dev/ttyS2.  I'm
> pretty sure /dev/ttyS2 is looking at the same I/O
> location but it is looking on IRQ 4, not IRQ 5.
>=20
> Later
>=20
> Lach
>=20
> Andrew L. Davis wrote:
>=20
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 10:13:14AM -0500, Lachlan Dunlop wrote:
>> > com3 ... Be it /dev/ttyS2 or /dev/cua2 aren't those devices wired for IRQ
>> > 4 ???  What about the IRQ 5 requirement or is that
>> > automatic??
>>
>> You can set the value in the bios, there is a limited selection.
>>
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From gecko@benham.net Mon Apr 27 18:12:13 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ascii printing single page
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:12:13 -0700
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Well, I really like having my ascii pages print two pages to a page but there
are some instances where I want it it print one per page.  How?  I know it has
something to do with "Z Options" but I don't know how to use them.  I tried -Z
with the lpr command...
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From morgad@mail.eclipse.co.uk Mon Apr 27 18:25:43 1998
From: morgad@mail.eclipse.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] error in file system
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:25:43 +0000
Message-ID: <3544cb8c.4309926@mail.eclipse.co.uk>
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On Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:48:07 -0400 (EDT), Dominik wrote:

>
>On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Fadi Sodah wrote:
>
>> hi ppl,
>> 
>> When i start my linux-box, i got the following msg:
>> -------------------------------------------
>> Parallelizing fsck version 1.06 (7-Oct-96)
>> /dev/hda2 contains a file system errors, check forced.
>> hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
>> hda: read_intr: status=0x40 { UncorrectableError }. LBAsect=385922,
>> sector=18029

[ snip ]
>> 
>> Give root password to login:
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>I do "fsck /dev/hda2". There is a print out of the man page of fsck in the
>SuSE handbook. You can read that. I hope that helps.
>
>Dominik
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about,
>and that is not being talked about.
>-Oscar Wilde

i have had this problem as well with my 6.5Gb segate disk

my bios said the disk had 784 cylinders

omewhere around cylinder 781 the heads hit the endstop !

i set the end of my last partition to 780 and problem went away

- note to the SuSE people : 
i think this shows up a SERIOUS bug in the disk formatting part of the
installation program. i noticed the same message on one of the status
screens (F12 ?? - running from memory here) yet even with format set
to 'CHECK' it did not report any errors.

i think it should have come up with a big warning message, and stopped
installation, not asked which packages i wanted to install ....

best regards
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From franken@cistron.nl Mon Apr 27 18:53:34 1998
From: franken@cistron.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] test
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:53:34 +0200
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test


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From jacobw@louisville.edu Mon Apr 27 19:57:16 1998
From: jacobw@louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Network card driver...
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:57:16 -0400
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I've got a Encore ESL-835-TB. Its a PCI card any one know where I can get
a driver for it?

jrw

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From adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com Mon Apr 27 20:24:45 1998
From: adavis@hayson.vmarketing.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing an internal Modem as Com3
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:24:45 -0400
Message-ID: <19980427162445.A3295@Hayson.vmarketing.com>
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On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 01:36:34PM +0100, Lachlan Dunlop wrote:
>=20
> Andrew,
>=20
> I guess you missed my point. If Curt has an internal modem set for Com3, IR=
Q 5.  It has nothing to do with the bios in the PC
> weather linux will see the modem when you use the device /dev/ttyS2.  I'm p=
retty sure /dev/ttyS2 is looking at the same I/O
> location but it is looking on IRQ 4, not IRQ 5.

If they are using com3 then IRQ 3 and IRQ 4 are already in use; to use the=20
other com ports they will have to use a different IRQ.  To do this you need=20
to use setserial to change the IRQ number.


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From gecko@benham.net Mon Apr 27 20:55:45 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] wm (I need starting help) when Fvwm2 button
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:55:45 -0700
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> Steven Udell wrote:
>=20
>> Hello SuSE
>>
>> I have a wm I compiled,maked and maked install
>>
>> I would like to use the Fvwm2 button (between the pine icon,S.u.S.E...
>> Icon)
>> under X fvwm2 start up screen to switch to this wm I compiled and
>> installed.
>>
>> The exe of the wm is in /usr/X11R6/bin
>>
>> I would like to know how to add the wm to be able to switch to it,
>> just like afterstep and under the unconfigured E and olwm.
>>
>> I am not good at this sorta thing: (yet)
>>
>> The wm said to edit .xinitrc and/or .xsession to use the
>> newly installed exe files. But not exactly what, and I
>> looked into them and .xsession said not to edit it..
>> and .xinitrc was very long (got lost)

go back and check the .fvwmrc file and make the change there.  Look at
FvwmButtons section (and the FvwmButtons man page)... that should get you goi=
ng.

>> If this can't be done how would I startx with it?
I believe setting the environment variable WINDOWMANAGER is what would take
care of that the SuSE way.

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From satan@nfinity.com Mon Apr 27 21:33:15 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] linuxconf?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:33:15 -0500
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Martin Mller wrote:

> Hey again.
>
>  I would like S.u.S.E. to integrate linuxconf into their future
> distributions, since it complements yast quite nicely and is available
> in both commandline, CLI and GUI form. Calling it from yast should be
> possible (preferably a specific part of it. Could be really cool.

I am sure that the maintainersof SuSE have a better handle on what fits into
the future of the distribution than we do as users.  While I understand the
spirit in which you make your suggestion it is arrogant to think that they
haven't already considered or are considering anything you could suggest.

>
>
> My main reason for this letter:
> It seems that suse-announce-e is rather, well, low on activity. Couldn't
> it be made so that new product announcements

"This list is intended for common discussions concerning
=C2=BBS.u.S.E. Linux=C2=AB. The topics can be technical or non-technical,
                    as long as they are related to our distribution. "
That is taken straight from the website.
There already is a mailing list for new product announcements.  SuSE's
website is located at http://www.suse.com>,  you can find a listing of the
mailing lists there as well as descriptions of the topics that each list
covers.

> as well as new updates to
> older products and KDE (etc)

Kde has mailing lists of their own. Kde's website can be found at
http://www.k=
de.org>

> is listed there with URLs and preferably a
> description. I cannot recall seeing a single letter in it?
>
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From jpcowh01@dragon.slug.louisville.edu Mon Apr 27 21:36:17 1998
From: jpcowh01@dragon.slug.louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Network card driver...
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:36:17 -0400
Message-ID: <199804272136.RAA08178@dragon.slug.louisville.edu>
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>=20
> I've got a Encore ESL-835-TB. Its a PCI card any one know where I can get
> a driver for it?
>=20
> jrw
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Hey Jacob,

        Do you remember that RealTek PCI card you had?  I did a isapnp conf f=
or it (even though it is pci) and I was able to initialize it under 2.0.30 us=
ing ne 1000/2000 clone driver...  The chip on the card was a RTC or something=
 and someone on the net toldme they had the same card and the ne 1000/2000 dr=
iver worked...  if not...  I'll help you do a little hacking if you'd like...

                                                Jonathan


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         =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

                           Jonathan Paul Cowherd
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From martin_moeller@ibm.net Mon Apr 27 21:56:29 1998
From: martin_moeller@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] linuxconf?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:56:29 +0100
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Hey again.

 I would like S.u.S.E. to integrate linuxconf into their future
distributions, since it complements yast quite nicely and is available
in both commandline, CLI and GUI form. Calling it from yast should be
possible (preferably a specific part of it. Could be really cool.

My main reason for this letter:
It seems that suse-announce-e is rather, well, low on activity. Couldn't
it be made so that new product announcements as well as new updates to
older products and KDE (etc) is listed there with URLs and preferably a
description. I cannot recall seeing a single letter in it?


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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Mon Apr 27 22:16:01 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Realteck 8029 (zentara)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:16:01 +0200
Message-ID: <01bd722a$0fe990c0$01180680@pb624.underground>
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Yes, but the trick is, you have to configure it as *non*-PnP (plug'n'play),
and _only then_ it will be NE2000-PCI-compatable...

Pascal

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Nils Jeppe 
=C3=80 : suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date : lundi 27 avril 1998 22:58
Objet : Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Realteck 8029 (zentara)

At 16:28 24.04.98 +0200, you wrote:
> Anyone hava a PCI Realteck 8029 working with Linux? Is it compatible
>with any other network card?

I have a longshine pci network card that seems to have thatchipset (uses
"realtek 8029" driver on win95). It is detected successfully on my system
using
the Ne2000 kernel module.

Hope this helps.

Nils

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From kyle@dsndata.com Mon Apr 27 22:38:00 1998
From: kyle@dsndata.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ascii printing single page
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:38:00 -0500
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gecko(a)benham.net writes:

 > Well, I really like having my ascii pages print two pages to a page but th=
ere
 > are some instances where I want it it print one per page.  How?  I know it=
 has
 > something to do with "Z Options" but I don't know how to use them.  I trie=
d -Z
 > with the lpr command...

That happened to me also. Are you using apsfilters?  If you are, in
/etc there are a couple of configuration files for the APS print
filters. I think that the one you are looking for, if you are using
the SUSE print setup, is /etc/apsfilterrc.   One of the defaults is to print =
two
pages to a sheet.  Unfortunately, I'm not at home so I can't be more
specific.  The configuration file /etc/apsfilterrc has lots of comments
that were pretty easy to understand. =20

hope this helps

kyle

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From nils@work.de Mon Apr 27 22:42:24 1998
From: nils@work.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Realteck 8029 (zentara)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:42:24 +0200
Message-ID: <199804272240.AAA08309@sorcerer.work.de>
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I don't know, as far as I know, mine is configured as PnP? Could be
mistaken of
course.

At 00:16 28.04.98 +0200, you wrote:
>Yes, but the trick is, you have to configure it as *non*-PnP (plug'n'play),
>and _only then_ it will be NE2000-PCI-compatable...

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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Mon Apr 27 23:00:55 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Realteck 8029 (zentara)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 01:00:55 +0200
Message-ID: <01bd7230$5564ada0$01180680@pb624.underground>
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You can check/change that with the 3.5"-disk you got with it...
I know we had that problem for a few users on our LAN who have
Realtek-network-cards, and when you leave it as PnP, it needs the Realtek
driver under Windows (and I don't think there is one under Linux, because
you don't really need one ;-)), but when it is NOT PnP, it is
NE2000-PCI-compatable: under Windows, you _must_ use the generic
NE2000-driver, so...

Pascal

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Nils Jeppe 
=C3=80 : suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date : mardi 28 avril 1998 1:51
Objet : Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Realteck 8029 (zentara)

>
>I don't know, as far as I know, mine is configured as PnP? Could be
>mistaken of
>course.
>
>At 00:16 28.04.98 +0200, you wrote:
>>Yes, but the trick is, you have to configure it as *non*-PnP
(plug'n'play),
>>and _only then_ it will be NE2000-PCI-compatable...
>
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From gecko@benham.net Mon Apr 27 23:10:54 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ascii printing single page
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:10:54 -0700
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On 27-Apr-98 Kyle Edbauer wrote:
> That happened to me also. Are you using apsfilters?  If you are, in
> /etc there are a couple of configuration files for the APS print
> filters. I think that the one you are looking for, if you are using
> the SUSE print setup, is /etc/apsfilterrc.   One of the defaults is to print
> two
> pages to a sheet.  Unfortunately, I'm not at home so I can't be more
> specific.  The configuration file /etc/apsfilterrc has lots of comments
> that were pretty easy to understand. =20
>=20
> hope this helps
I'm using apsfilter, yes.  That helps to a degree but that is more of a
permanate solution.  I prefer printing two pages to the paper but once in a
while, I want to print one page to the printer (same printer).  I was hoping
for a command line switch or a printcaps switch or something like that :(
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From satan@nfinity.com Mon Apr 27 23:19:03 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ascii printing single page
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:19:03 -0500
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The option in /etc/apsfilterrc that is set to 2n must be changed to 1n if you=
 want to
use classic one page per sheet printing.  There is a listing in apsfilterrc t=
hat
documents what the format choices are.

Kyle Edbauer wrote:

> gecko(a)benham.net writes:
>
>  > Well, I really like having my ascii pages print two pages to a page but =
there
>  > are some instances where I want it it print one per page.  How?  I know =
it has
>  > something to do with "Z Options" but I don't know how to use them.  I tr=
ied -Z
>  > with the lpr command...
>
> That happened to me also. Are you using apsfilters?  If you are, in
> /etc there are a couple of configuration files for the APS print
> filters. I think that the one you are looking for, if you are using
> the SUSE print setup, is /etc/apsfilterrc.   One of the defaults is to prin=
t two
> pages to a sheet.  Unfortunately, I'm not at home so I can't be more
> specific.  The configuration file /etc/apsfilterrc has lots of comments
> that were pretty easy to understand.
>
> hope this helps
>
> kyle
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From gecko@benham.net Mon Apr 27 23:27:40 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] linuxconf?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:27:40 -0700
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On 28-Apr-98 Martin Mller wrote:
> Michael Lankton wrote:
> If I'm harsh above, I don't mean to be. I'm just trying to get my point
> across.

Sometimes Mr. Lankton needs to be tolerated.  He contributes good information
some of the time, other times he's either opinionated, bossy or even rude.

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From martin_moeller@ibm.net Tue Apr 28 00:06:16 1998
From: martin_moeller@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] linuxconf?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 01:06:16 +0100
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Michael Lankton wrote:
>=20
[Linuxconf]
> I am sure that the maintainersof SuSE have a better handle on what fits into
> the future of the distribution than we do as users.  While I understand the
> spirit in which you make your suggestion it is arrogant to think that they
> haven't already considered or are considering anything you could suggest.
We are all human. I would be a lot worse off if it wasn't for slashdot
og freshmeat, for instance. Yes, they might be aware, but they may also
be busy on other things and not have though about this. Still trying to
be friendly...

> > My main reason for this letter:
> > It seems that suse-announce-e is rather, well, low on activity. Couldn't
> > it be made so that new product announcements
>=20
> "This list is intended for common discussions concerning
> =C2=BBS.u.S.E. Linux=C2=AB. The topics can be technical or non-technical,
>                     as long as they are related to our distribution. "
I am sure that is THIS list, right? suse-linux-e? I am mentioning that
suse-announce-e is pretty dead an that it is a shame. I am doing it here
because it's my belief that only suse should post to the announce-list.
It's just a pitty they rarely do, ok?

> That is taken straight from the website.
> There already is a mailing list for new product announcements.  SuSE's
> website is located at http://www.suse.com>,  you can find a listing of the
> mailing lists there as well as descriptions of the topics that each list
> covers.
I know, and I just checked the backlog of suse-announce-e. There is a
total of one message: The announcement of Java WorkShop 2.0 for Linux. A
few scripts could improve the usefulness of suse-announce-e a LOT!
That's all I'm saying, if you'll let me!
=20
> > as well as new updates to
> > older products and KDE (etc)
>=20
> Kde has mailing lists of their own. Kde's website can be found at
> http://www=
.kde.org>
I know, but I'm guessing there's a reason that S.u.S.E. makes binaries
available at their own site under suse_update, even if it's only that
they take the docs from the source and put them in
/usr/doc/packages/.... . It would be nice if you didn't have to strafe
around to see if anything new was there, which a better exploitation (in
a good sense) of suse-announce-e would accomplish.
=20
If I'm harsh above, I don't mean to be. I'm just trying to get my point
across.

Later,

 Martin Moeller.


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From nils@work.de Tue Apr 28 00:34:00 1998
From: nils@work.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Realteck 8029 (zentara)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 02:34:00 +0200
Message-ID: <199804280032.CAA08879@sorcerer.work.de>
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It definitely uses the realtek driver under win95 and definitely gets detected
as ne2000 when i boot into linux without me making any changes :) the
setup.exe
on the disk doesn't say anything about pnp or non pnp. Anyway, it's a
longshine
card with a realtek chip, if that makes a difference. I kinda like my network
card to work like it does :)

At 01:00 28.04.98 +0200, you wrote:
>NE2000-PCI-compatable: under Windows, you _must_ use the generic
>NE2000-driver, so...

----------------------------------------------------------------------

<http://privat.schlund.de/bartmoss>>http://privat.schlund.de/bartmoss/>       =20
ICQ UIN: 3322540=20

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From pbnt@mindspring.com Tue Apr 28 00:40:26 1998
From: pbnt@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. name and logo
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:40:26 -0400
Message-ID: <35452579.9F9A37F0@mindspring.com>
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Pascal Bleser wrote:

> S.u.S.E. is (S)oftware (u)nd (S)ystem(e)ntwicklung
> which means "Software and Systemdevelopment"
>
> And it's not a critter 8^D !!! C'mon... it's a chameleon !
> Check out the XSuSE-logo: it's clearer on it ;-)

Pascal,

Thanks very much.  I appreciate the info. Sorry about the "critter". As you
can see Biology was not one of my best subjects in school. I should have
guessed a chameleon. Anyway, I like it. Now I do need that T-shirt.

Thanks again,

Phil Bennett
"Linux: it's not only what the world is coming to, it is what runs much of
it.:


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From pbnt@mindspring.com Tue Apr 28 00:41:03 1998
From: pbnt@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. name and logo
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:41:03 -0400
Message-ID: <3545259F.E7E96D86@mindspring.com>
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Marius Augenstein wrote:

> Hy Phil
>
> The abbreviation S.u.S.E. stands for "Gesellschaft f=C3=BCr _S_oftware _u_nd
> _S_ystem_e_ntwicklung". It means "Company for Software- and Systemdevelopem=
ent".
> But don't ask me for what this "critter" stand for. Perhaps just a senseless
> (but beautyful ..;-)) mascot ...
>
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  Thanks Marius.

Phil


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From weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de Tue Apr 28 00:43:04 1998
From: weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] error file system
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 02:43:04 +0200
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Hi!

Trying to kill the keyboard, sodah(a)qatar.net.qa produced:

> > /dev/hda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENC; RUN fsck MANUALLY
> > (i.e., without -a or -p options)
> > Loading /etc/default.keytab
> > 
> > fsck failed. Please repair maually and report. The root file system is
                                          ^^^^^^^
                                         reboot.
> > currently mounted
> > read-only. To remount it read-write do:
> >   bash# mount -n -o remount, rw /
> > Attention: Only Control-D will reboot the system in this maintanance mode.
> > shutdown or reboot will not work.
> > 
> > Give root password to login:
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > What shall i do?

Exactly what it says:
=====================

"RUN fsck MANUALLY"
"Please repair manually and reboot"
(the man page for e2fsck is printed out in the SuSE handbook, in the
appendices)

after typing in the root password as requested.

Shesh, don't people read what they copy&paste any more?

-Wolfgang

PS: If you, for any reason, cannot read the manpage, mail me personally
    (i.e. not via the list) and I'll mail it to you.

PPS: the text he quoted (mangled?) comes straight out of
     /sbin/init.d/boot.


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From weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de Tue Apr 28 00:52:47 1998
From: weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] error file system
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 02:52:47 +0200
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Hi!

Trying to kill the keyboard, satan(a)nfinity.com produced:
>=20
> I got the same error once when I was new to linux.   If /dev/hda on your bo=
x is
> home to both linux and windows and you defragment in windows it screws up t=
he
> partition table for linux, or something.  Say you have a 2 gig drive, and y=
ou
> repartition, giving windows 1 gig and linux 1 gig.  Windows still sees A: as
> being two gigs.  No big deal, you know it's only a gig.  But if you defrag =
in
> windows it creates problems.  I don't think you can recover from that.  I
> reinstalled when it happened to me.  Sorry to be vague, I don't fully under=
stand
> what gets screwed up, but it did happen to me, and I ended up having to
> reinstall.  Perhaps Bodo or someone more qualified can provide a better
> explanation of what happened.

Well, I know that M$ Soft is evil at times, knows not that it should
not touch the MBR and more of these stuff, but I certainly doubt your
explanation. You see, even Windows knows there might be other
partitions on the same HD (like d: e: and f:), especially on such a
large one. And so defrag is not ging to touch other partitions. And if
Windows saw c: (you mean c:, not a:) as 2 Gigs in size, would it know
that there was no more space left?

(Operating Computers by popular myth is ... well, like living by
superstition. You'll never get any good in it, you just learn not to
get too close to imagined or read danger. And different to life,
computers do always do things logically, even if they are very complex
...)

But whatever happened to his partition must have been very bad, cause
fsck is usually able to repair a lot of damage. Better hope that you
have a working backup somewhere.

-Wolfgang


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From satan@nfinity.com Tue Apr 28 02:53:05 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] error file system
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:53:05 -0500
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Let me be specific:

On my box, I have a 4 gig drive which is /dev/hda and a 2 gig drive which is
/dev/hdb.  Before installing linux, /dev/hda consisted of a 2 gig primary par=
tition
which windows recognized as C: and a 2 gig extended partition containing a 2 =
gig
logical partition which windows saw as E:.  /dev/hdb was seen by windows as D=
:.  I had
been using E: as my linux drive when I decided to give linux an extra gig fro=
m A:.
I repartitioned /dev/hda thusly:
/dev/hda1        primary        1 gig            windows
/dev/hda2        extended       3 gigs          --
/dev/hda5        logical          64 megs       swap
/dev/hda6        logical          100 megs     /
/dev/hda7        logical          300 megs     /opt
/dev/hda8        logical          2.3 gigs       /usr
/dev/hda9        logical          200 megs    /home

Having installed linux, the two operating systems began a peaceful coexistenc=
e.
However, windows still reported C: as being the previous 2 gigs (E:, of cours=
e was no
longer visible to windows, being a 3 gig ext2 set of partitions).  If I went =
into dos
fdisk it reported the correct partition information, 1 gig fat16 and 3 gigs o=
f type
unknown.  I decided that perhaps to have windows properly report the correct =
partition
size it would be necessary to repartition using dos fdisk then reinstall wind=
ows.
There was no need to go to those lengths just to have windows tell me that C:=
 was the
correct size so I dismissed the notion and reconciled myself to living with t=
he mild
annoyance.
Several weeks later I defragged C: in windows.  Later that day when I booted =
linux I
went into kernel panic, got the same error messages that were displayed on th=
is list
earlier.  I manually ran fsck, and an hour later after repairing error after =
error and
no end in sight I decided reinstalling would be faster than fixing and reform=
atted the
disk and reinstalled.
If you don't think that windows defrag is to blame what would you suggest?

Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Trying to kill the keyboard, satan(a)nfinity.com produced:
> >
> > I got the same error once when I was new to linux.   If /dev/hda on your =
box is
> > home to both linux and windows and you defragment in windows it screws up=
 the
> > partition table for linux, or something.  Say you have a 2 gig drive, and=
 you
> > repartition, giving windows 1 gig and linux 1 gig.  Windows still sees A:=
 as
> > being two gigs.  No big deal, you know it's only a gig.  But if you defra=
g in
> > windows it creates problems.  I don't think you can recover from that.  I
> > reinstalled when it happened to me.  Sorry to be vague, I don't fully und=
erstand
> > what gets screwed up, but it did happen to me, and I ended up having to
> > reinstall.  Perhaps Bodo or someone more qualified can provide a better
> > explanation of what happened.
>
> Well, I know that M$ Soft is evil at times, knows not that it should
> not touch the MBR and more of these stuff, but I certainly doubt your
> explanation. You see, even Windows knows there might be other
> partitions on the same HD (like d: e: and f:), especially on such a
> large one. And so defrag is not ging to touch other partitions. And if
> Windows saw c: (you mean c:, not a:) as 2 Gigs in size, would it know
> that there was no more space left?
>
> (Operating Computers by popular myth is ... well, like living by
> superstition. You'll never get any good in it, you just learn not to
> get too close to imagined or read danger. And different to life,
> computers do always do things logically, even if they are very complex
> ...)
>
> But whatever happened to his partition must have been very bad, cause
> fsck is usually able to repair a lot of damage. Better hope that you
> have a working backup somewhere.
>
> -Wolfgang
>
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From srr03@tid.es Tue Apr 28 06:20:00 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] error in file system
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:20:00 +0200
Message-ID: <3545750F.ED286D9E@tid.es>
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  First, make a fsck /dev/hda2 or e2fsck /dev/hda2.
And try to check all the  other partitions? It seems a serial phisycal problem
with the hard disk.
Good luck

        Xanti

Fadi Sodah wrote:

> hi ppl,
>
> When i start my linux-box, i got the following msg:......


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From Marius.Augenstein@alcatel.de Tue Apr 28 07:49:22 1998
From: Marius.Augenstein@alcatel.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi and cursor-keys don't work :-(
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:49:22 +0200
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Hy there

Now I've Wabi up and running but in Word it isn't possible to use
the cursor- and all the other useful key's like End, Pos1 and so on.
Has anybody the same problems and if so any solutions ?? Additionally
the Crtl-c, Crtl-x and Crtl-v don't work correctly too. (the most
important keys under word ....:-))

Thanks in advance 


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From Marius.Augenstein@alcatel.de Tue Apr 28 08:34:19 1998
From: Marius.Augenstein@alcatel.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ascii printing single page
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:34:19 +0200
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satan(a)nfinity.com wrote:
>=20
> The option in /etc/apsfilterrc that is set to 2n must be changed to 1n if y=
ou want to
> use classic one page per sheet printing.  There is a listing in apsfilterrc=
 that
> documents what the format choices are.
>=20
> Kyle Edbauer wrote:
>=20
> > gecko(a)benham.net writes:
> >
> >  > Well, I really like having my ascii pages print two pages to a page bu=
t there
> >  > are some instances where I want it it print one per page.  How?  I kno=
w it has
> >  > something to do with "Z Options" but I don't know how to use them.  I =
tried -Z
> >  > with the lpr command...
> >
> > That happened to me also. Are you using apsfilters?  If you are, in
> > /etc there are a couple of configuration files for the APS print
> > filters. I think that the one you are looking for, if you are using
> > the SUSE print setup, is /etc/apsfilterrc.   One of the defaults is to pr=
int two
> > pages to a sheet.  Unfortunately, I'm not at home so I can't be more
> > specific.  The configuration file /etc/apsfilterrc has lots of comments
> > that were pretty easy to understand.
> >
> > hope this helps
> >
> > kyle
> > --
Hy=20

I'm using the software mpage. It is a very comfortable and easy to configure
package. You can find it at:
ftp://ftp.caldera.com/pub/mirrors/tsx-11/sources/usr.bin/mpa=
ge24.tar.gz>

e.g. For one side per page use mpage -1P 
     For two sides per page use mpage -2P 
     For a duplexprinter use mpage -xtP  (x=3Dnumber of pages per p=
age)
  and so on ....=20

Additionally it is possible to us it in Netscape instead of lpr. You can save
a lot of paper with it.

Try it and love it...:-)) (.....comments ?? ;-))

Ps.: Is mpage in the SuSE 5.1 dist included ? I didn't found it...


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From hettar@teleport.com Tue Apr 28 08:57:02 1998
From: hettar@teleport.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject:
 [S.u.S.E. Linux] Blender 3D animation tool (SGI w-Irix5.3+/Free BSD/ LINUX!!)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 01:57:02 -0700
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BLENDER
As a gift to the worldwide computer graphics community,
NeoGeo decided to publish their (SGI) 3D design and=20
animation software. Try it! It's freeware and a 100%
original product.=20

I came across news of this just a few ago.
It is free, It is in an SGI Look.

Check it out,
http://www.neogeo.nl/blender.html> (direct)

http://w=
ww.neogeo.nl>  (front page)

Just thought I'd let SuSE users know of exciting=20
programs for Linux. Hope you don't mind.

And no I don't work for any of these companies (wish I did)


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sudell(a)teleport.com      and courage
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From ke@suse.de Tue Apr 28 09:12:19 1998
From: ke@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ascii printing single page
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:12:19 +0200
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Marius Augenstein  writes:

|   I'm using the software mpage.

Another tool to try is GNU enscript which comes with S.u.S.E. Linux.


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From kar@webline.dk Tue Apr 28 16:53:45 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] linuxconf?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:53:45 +0200
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> Sometimes Mr. Lankton needs to be tolerated.  He contributes good informati=
on
> some of the time, other times he's either opinionated, bossy or even rude.

Tolerated is the right word. As I read his response, I thought about
what kind of kritter he could be :-(


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From kar@webline.dk Tue Apr 28 16:56:57 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:56:57 +0200
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While we'ew talking about the future, what's the news about the next
release. Will it be 6.0 or 5.3? Will it include Gnome, glibc,
whatever.rpm?


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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Tue Apr 28 18:13:32 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:13:32 +0200
Message-ID: <01bd72d1$5a5e6930$36320a0a@rubis.inpres.epl.prov-liege.be>
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its 6.0, and it'll have glibc2 (libc6)

Pascal
 l'irréductible Linuxien
-----Original Message-----
From: Kaare Rasmussen 
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date: mardi 28 avril 1998 20:58
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release

>
>While we'ew talking about the future, what's the news about the next
>release. Will it be 6.0 or 5.3? Will it include Gnome, glibc,
>whatever.rpm?
>
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From suse@wavenet.it Tue Apr 28 18:26:59 1998
From: suse@wavenet.it
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Grabbing KDM?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:26:59 +0200
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The same thing happened me: after I' ve installed GTK 1.0.0, Gimp stopped
working and up to now I didn' t success making it work again. I' ve also
uninstalled the rpmed Suse Gimp and installed a new one compiled from
source but no success. :((

Bye.

On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Martin Mller wrote:

> Also, gimp stopped working after I compiled gtk v1.0.0 -- why is that,
> wonder?


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From satan@nfinity.com Tue Apr 28 18:39:02 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:39:02 -0500
Message-ID: <35462245.6F94DD1@nfinity.com>
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It will also mark the premiere of SuSE linux on the alpha platform.

Pascal Bleser wrote:

> its 6.0, and it'll have glibc2 (libc6)
>
> Pascal
>  l'irréductible Linuxien
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kaare Rasmussen 
> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
> Date: mardi 28 avril 1998 20:58
> Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
>
> >
> >While we'ew talking about the future, what's the news about the next
> >release. Will it be 6.0 or 5.3? Will it include Gnome, glibc,
> >whatever.rpm?
> >
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From barothwe@cca.rockwell.com Tue Apr 28 19:00:32 1998
From: barothwe@cca.rockwell.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:00:32 -0500
Message-ID: <35462750.4287@cca.rockwell.com>
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> Pascal Bleser wrote:
> 
> > its 6.0, and it'll have glibc2 (libc6)
> >
> > Pascal
> >  l'irréductible Linuxien

Will SuSE Linux 6.0 have sound support ALA RedHat?

I've GIVEN UP on getting sound to work on my Linux 5.1
installation. When I found out 5.2 doesn't offer any
extra sound support as RedHat now does, I called and
had my name removed from the Constant Upgrade program...

... perhaps I'll try RedHat with that money... or perhaps
just wait until SuSE gets a clue...

  Bruce Rothwell  /  barothwe(a)cca.rockwell.com  /  Cedar Rapids, IA 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
    My views don't necessarily represent the views of my employer.

 By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer
 meets the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b)(1)(C)
 it is unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to such
 equipment, punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss,
 or $500, whichever is -greater-, for -each- violation.

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From satan@nfinity.com Tue Apr 28 19:02:23 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Grabbing KDM?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:02:23 -0500
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When this sort of problem arises, look in the directory of the user you use
the program as and remove all the legacy files and directories.  In this
case, remove .gimprc if it exists, as well as the directory .gimp if it
exists.  Then install the new gimp and you shouldn't experience any
conflicts.
Hope this helps.

Simone Castellaneta wrote:

> The same thing happened me: after I' ve installed GTK 1.0.0, Gimp stopped
> working and up to now I didn' t success making it work again. I' ve also
> uninstalled the rpmed Suse Gimp and installed a new one compiled from
> source but no success. :((
>
> Bye.
>
> On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Martin Mller wrote:
>
> > Also, gimp stopped working after I compiled gtk v1.0.0 -- why is that,
> > wonder?
>
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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Tue Apr 28 19:37:11 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:37:11 +0200
Message-ID: <01bd72dd$0a161480$36320a0a@rubis.inpres.epl.prov-liege.be>
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What Sound Support ?

Pascal
 l'irréductible Linuxien

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce A. Rothwell 
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date: mardi 28 avril 1998 22:25
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release

> Pascal Bleser wrote:
>
> > its 6.0, and it'll have glibc2 (libc6)
> >
> > Pascal
> >  l'irréductible Linuxien

Will SuSE Linux 6.0 have sound support ALA RedHat?

I've GIVEN UP on getting sound to work on my Linux 5.1
installation. When I found out 5.2 doesn't offer any
extra sound support as RedHat now does, I called and
had my name removed from the Constant Upgrade program...

... perhaps I'll try RedHat with that money... or perhaps
just wait until SuSE gets a clue...

  Bruce Rothwell  /  barothwe(a)cca.rockwell.com  /  Cedar Rapids, IA
----------------------------------------------------------------------
    My views don't necessarily represent the views of my employer.

By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer
meets the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b)(1)(C)
it is unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to such
equipment, punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss,
or $500, whichever is -greater-, for -each- violation.

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From lach@lach.net Tue Apr 28 19:45:43 1998
From: lach@lach.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:45:43 +0100
Message-ID: <354631E7.8008C3FD@lach.net>
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Just a quick question, 5.2 was released 2 weeks ago, and we are already
talking about the next release???  Is it immanent?  I think not.  Isn't SuSE
on a schedule of 4 releases a year?  If we start talking about 6.0 to soon
SuSE won't be able to sell any copies of their 5.2 release :))))

Lach


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From kar@webline.dk Tue Apr 28 22:42:16 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:42:16 +0200
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On 28 Apr, Lachlan Dunlop wrote:
> 
> Just a quick question, 5.2 was released 2 weeks ago, and we are already
> talking about the next release???  Is it immanent?  I think not.  Isn't SuSE
> on a schedule of 4 releases a year?  If we start talking about 6.0 to soon
> SuSE won't be able to sell any copies of their 5.2 release :))))

C'mon. This isn't the S.u.S.E. Sales List. People here most propably
already have S.u.S.E. Linux.

I think it's a fair question: How does S.u.S.E. plan the near future?

Still I had hoped that somebody would comment on Gnome...


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From mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com Tue Apr 28 22:50:13 1998
From: mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.2 headaches (kernel compile)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:50:13 -0600
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I have had a lot of trouble with recompiling the kernel under 5.2.  Am I
the only one??

The main reason I am recompiling is to enable ppp so I can connect to
the internet.  (this message ala win95 :-(

Is it possible to install the kernel source from 5.1 into 5.2??  If so,
just the lx_suse package??  I never had any problems with 5.1 compiling
and I miss that!!

Thanks

mc


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From jpcowh01@dragon.slug.louisville.edu Tue Apr 28 23:18:20 1998
From: jpcowh01@dragon.slug.louisville.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.2 headaches (kernel compile)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:18:20 -0400
Message-ID: <199804282318.TAA01155@dragon.slug.louisville.edu>
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I've complile a 2.0.33-S.u.S.E. source kernel without difficult (with PPP sup=
port)...  Is that where it bails on you?  or is your PPP not working with the=
 new kernel?

        Can you compile a kernel without PPP support without it erroring? or =
is PPP shutting down on you?

        Let me know...  I'll check back in about three hours...

                                                Jonathan

--=20
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         =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

                           Jonathan Paul Cowherd
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edu/~jpcowh01>

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From weekleyj@fastrans.net Tue Apr 28 23:41:01 1998
From: weekleyj@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:41:01 -0500
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Wow, I could've sworn I heard mp3's, au's and wav's playing from my
Soundblaster AWE32 on my SuSE  box :)

It DOES have sound support, you just have to compile it in.  RTFM.


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From bb@suse.com Wed Apr 29 00:02:42 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:02:42 -0700
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Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
>=20
> On 28 Apr, Lachlan Dunlop wrote:
> >
> > Just a quick question, 5.2 was released 2 weeks ago, and we are already
> > talking about the next release???  Is it immanent?  I think not.  Isn't S=
uSE
> > on a schedule of 4 releases a year?  If we start talking about 6.0 to soon
> > SuSE won't be able to sell any copies of their 5.2 release :))))
>=20
> C'mon. This isn't the S.u.S.E. Sales List. People here most propably
> already have S.u.S.E. Linux.
>=20
> I think it's a fair question: How does S.u.S.E. plan the near future?
>=20
> Still I had hoped that somebody would comment on Gnome...
>=20

Hi,

at the moment no decision is made if the next release will be 5.3
or 6.0. We are working on 6.0 right now, this means we use glibc to
recompile all the packages and check out possible problems. If=20
everything or at least a major part of the applications work fine with
glibc, the next release will be 6.0. We definitly will have glibc
on the 6.0 release!

If we run in (unexspected) trouble with glibc, we'll have an=20
updated 5.2, which will be called S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3.

I don't know much about GNOME, but it seems, that it needs glibc,
so we won't have it until the 6.0 release, but anyway, now that=20
Qt will be free available (-> c.o.l.a.:"The KDE Free Qt Foundation")
maybe the GNOME project isn't that important anymore?

Ciao,
        BB


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From alfiesty@chaffee.net Wed Apr 29 00:30:09 1998
From: alfiesty@chaffee.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Panasonic KX1150 Printer
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:30:09 -0600
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980428183009.007f98e0@chaffee.net>
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I have been given a Panasonic KX1150 printer. I have no manual for it or
any other documentation. Does anyone know which printer might work for
suse5.1 apsfilter? The epson filter does not work!!
Jim


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From mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com Wed Apr 29 00:45:41 1998
From: mclark@datsrvr.datsit.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] 5.2 frustration
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:45:41 -0600
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Well now, don't I feel silly??

All that whining about the ppp and all of a sudden it works!  I have no
idea why.  All I did was take a break and come back and try it again.
Bingo!!!

There are certainly worse things that could inexplicably happen.

Thanks

mc


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From weekleyj@fastrans.net Wed Apr 29 01:22:49 1998
From: weekleyj@fastrans.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] linuxconf?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:22:49 -0500
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Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

> > Sometimes Mr. Lankton needs to be tolerated.  He contributes good informa=
tion
> > some of the time, other times he's either opinionated, bossy or even rude.
>
> Tolerated is the right word. As I read his response, I thought about
> what kind of kritter he could be :-(
>
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My take on SuSe and Linux (and life in general) is that if you don't ask, it =
won't
get any better.  I was under the (possibly mistaken ?) impression that asking=
 for
enhancements was one of the functions that this mailing list served.

Personally, I think that if I subscribed to Mr. Lankton's theory that the gro=
up
who produces
SuSE knew better than I what I wanted and needed, I'd be using M$ win95.

Yes, you are rude, Mr Lankton, you also seem to be more than willing to settl=
e for
second best.

I'd rather ask and be turned down by the publishers of Suse than to have bitc=
hed
about it and never asked for what I wanted.

Just my take on this thread.

John Weekley


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From owwkd@cybernix.com.sg Wed Apr 29 01:44:34 1998
From: owwkd@cybernix.com.sg
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Realteck 8029 (zentara)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:44:34 +0800
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I suppose your Realtek 8029 NE2000 compatible PCI network card. I'm using
this and is not exactly PnP.

I got it working with the following step:
1.  Have you kernel compile with ne.o module support.

2.  "cat /proc/pci"      # to check on the parameter for your card
=============
PCI devices found:
  Bus  0, device  18, function  0:
    Ethernet controller: Realtek 8029 (rev 0).
      Medium devsel.  IRQ 9.  
      I/O at 0xfce0.
==================
There you have your io=0xfce0 irq=9

So when you load your ne.o module, put in the parameters of your network
card.

Hope this helps.

Danny

On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Santiago Rodriguez wrote:

> 
>   Hi.
> 
>   Anyone hava a PCI Realteck 8029 working with Linux? Is it compatible
> with any other network card?
> I know zentara wrote that he (she?) got it. zentara, could you please
> send again that message or help about installing it. Or any other, I
> mean.
> Thanks.
> 
>                 Xanti
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From vhearn@wenet.net Wed Apr 29 03:23:47 1998
From: vhearn@wenet.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: LILO
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:23:47 -0700
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I forgot..What does this LINEAR option mean?

Hubert Mantel wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Bodo Bauer wrote:
>
> > Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
> > >
> > > Does S.u.S.E. use anoother version of LILO than RedHat? The reason I
> > > ask is that I installed RedHat on a IBM Thinkpad 760XL, no problem. But
> > > then I would try S.u.S.E. 5.1, and then LILO only get as far as 'L' and
> > > then hangs. I don't know what that implies (except it's a hardware
> > > problem). But when LILO from RHL 5.0 works, why not LILO from S.u.S.E.
> > > 5.1?
> >
> > We have a different version of LILO. Remove the 'linear' flaf in
> > the LILO configuration and it should work....
>
> Not quite ;-) S.u.S.E. 5.1/5.2 and RedHat 5.0 both use LILO 20. Only the
> default configuration differs. We have already switched back to "linear"
> defaulting to "off" as meanwhile this option leads to more problems than
> it does solve.
>
> > Ciao,
> >       BB
>
>     Hubert
>
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From slk@grace.acm.rpi.edu Wed Apr 29 04:16:16 1998
From: slk@grace.acm.rpi.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: LILO
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:16:16 -0400
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On %M %N, vic wrote
>=20
> I forgot..What does this LINEAR option mean?
>=20
The linear option means:

       linear Generate linear sector addresses  instead  of  sec=C2=AD
              tor/head/cylinder  addresses.  Linear addresses are
              translated at run time and do not  depend  on  disk
              geometry.  Note that boot disks may not be portable
              if `linear' is used, because the  BIOS  service  to
              determine  the disk geometry does not work reliably
              for floppy disks. When using  `linear'  with  large
              disks,  /sbin/lilo may generate references to inac=C2=AD
              cessible disk areas, because  3D  sector  addresses
              are not known before boot time.

(pasted from the lilo.conf manpage. note that it also makes lilo
boot quite slow, instead of near instant, on my system, which has
a pair of disks off a Buslogic BT-930, and has / and the kernel
on sdb1)

HTH HAND
--Simon


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From gordster@juno.com Wed Apr 29 04:58:34 1998
From: gordster@juno.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re:suse-announce-e
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:58:34 -0400
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 I agree that announce is low on activity, but that is GOOD for a person
who doesn't have time to keep up with this list, [and before you've been
on here very long you will realize it's a commitment].  So I agree with=20
SuSE that there is a good separate purpose for each list. Besides, you
won't miss anything while on this list any way, and if you doubt that, it
isn't hard for people like you and me to subscribe to both lists. is it?

Gordy  Heitzman         gordster(a)juno.com           =20

On Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:56:29 +0100 "Martin Mller"
 writes:
>
>My main reason for this letter:
>It seems that suse-announce-e is rather, well, low on activity.=20
>Couldn't it be made so that new product announcements as well as new
updates to older products and KDE (etc) is listed there with URLs and
preferably a description. I cannot recall seeing a single letter in it?

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From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr 29 05:51:35 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
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Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] gui irc client
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From fpawlak@execpc.com Wed Apr 29 05:53:10 1998
From: fpawlak@execpc.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:53:10 -0500
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Hi Bruce,

What kind of problems are you having with SuSE?  Perhaps I can help.

Frank

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 4/28/98, at 3:29 PM, Bruce A. Rothwell wrote: 

>> Pascal Bleser wrote:
>> 
>> > its 6.0, and it'll have glibc2 (libc6)
>> >
>> > Pascal
>> >  l'irréductible Linuxien
>
>
>Will SuSE Linux 6.0 have sound support ALA RedHat?
>
>I've GIVEN UP on getting sound to work on my Linux 5.1
>installation. When I found out 5.2 doesn't offer any
>extra sound support as RedHat now does, I called and
>had my name removed from the Constant Upgrade program...
>
>... perhaps I'll try RedHat with that money... or perhaps
>just wait until SuSE gets a clue...
>
>
>
>  Bruce Rothwell  /  barothwe(a)cca.rockwell.com  /  Cedar Rapids, IA 
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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From striepe@geo.uni-bonn.de Wed Apr 29 06:31:04 1998
From: striepe@geo.uni-bonn.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] felix-package
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:31:04 +0000
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From striepe@geo.uni-bonn.de Wed Apr 29 06:36:05 1998
From: striepe@geo.uni-bonn.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Need official comments on felix-package from 5.1
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:36:05 +0000
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Sorry for the first mail on this sunbject!

Now:

Hi!

I have suse 5.1 and the felix-package installed,
after fixing the wrong link to the binary,
the binary didn't execute,

ldd: can't execute felix.Linux (Exec format error)

I'd appreciate comments, also from suse !.

thanks

best regards,
arnulf

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From chaos@odn.de Wed Apr 29 07:49:03 1998
From: chaos@odn.de
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Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] scanner problems
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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Wed Apr 29 08:17:24 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] linuxconf?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:17:24 +0200
Message-ID: <01bd7347$3d1a06b0$36320a0a@rubis.inpres.epl.prov-liege.be>
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Yeah, I agree with that... this is Linux, not m$
But you don't have to blame to people from S.u.S.E. !
They _are_ making excellent work, and they don't stop adding new packages in
their distribution (think about Enlightenment as an example), and there are
that many new software & projects with Linux.... they can't do it all ;-)

But I like the idea of the S.u.S.E. people testing the packages a lot before
putting'em in their distribution...
And it's a good thing they don't put _everything_ !!
We wouldn't have anything to install !? ;-)
If you want linuxconf, just download it from sunsite or so... and install it
(it's really ease, so...)

Pascal
  l'irréductible Linuxien

-----Original Message-----
From: John Weekley 
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date: mercredi 29 avril 1998 04:26
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] linuxconf?

>
>Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
>
>> > Sometimes Mr. Lankton needs to be tolerated.  He contributes good
information
>> > some of the time, other times he's either opinionated, bossy or even
rude.
>>
>> Tolerated is the right word. As I read his response, I thought about
>> what kind of kritter he could be :-(
>>
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>My take on SuSe and Linux (and life in general) is that if you don't ask,
it won't
>get any better.  I was under the (possibly mistaken ?) impression that
asking for
>enhancements was one of the functions that this mailing list served.
>
>Personally, I think that if I subscribed to Mr. Lankton's theory that the
group
>who produces
>SuSE knew better than I what I wanted and needed, I'd be using M$ win95.
>
>Yes, you are rude, Mr Lankton, you also seem to be more than willing to
settle for
>second best.
>
>I'd rather ask and be turned down by the publishers of Suse than to have
bitched
>about it and never asked for what I wanted.
>
>Just my take on this thread.
>
>John Weekley
>
>
>
>
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From sergio@spainmail.com Wed Apr 29 09:37:12 1998
From: sergio@spainmail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:37:12 +0200
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On 28-Apr-98 John Weekley wrote:
 
> Wow, I could've sworn I heard mp3's, au's and wav's playing from my
> Soundblaster AWE32 on my SuSE  box :)
> 
> It DOES have sound support, you just have to compile it in.  RTFM.

For me it's impossible to play a sound with my SB 16 PnP and my PnP
BIOS. I though that the kernel must have modular sound support for
Sound Blaster to use Isapnp ... but for my surprise it doesn't and I'm
pretty sure that for example Red Hat 5.0 does :-?

Could someone tell me what I must do to have my sound card running in
S.u.S.E. 5.2? I'm absolutely lost about this question :-(

Thanks in advance,


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From srr03@tid.es Wed Apr 29 11:08:04 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Problems with fvwm2 or X?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:08:04 +0200
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  Sometimes, when I startx, I can't open anything with the fvwm2 menu. I
just right or left-clicked my mouse, choose an option in the menu, and
nothing happens.
Once upper icons (xeyes, the clock and so) did not apear. I don't know
why. I'm talking about the defect fvwm2 that comes with suse (wich I
like very much, by the way).
Any suggestions?
Thanks.

            Xanti


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From srr03@tid.es Wed Apr 29 11:14:25 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] gui irc client
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:14:25 +0200
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  Do you know (by the way) any free irc server?

Thanks

            Xanti

Michael Lankton wrote:

> >From time to time in the past, people on this list who had just migrated
> from windows had complained about command line unix irc clients.  The
> SuSE distribution includes zircon, xirc, and tkirc, but for those of you
> who have tried those and they just weren't quite what you wanted, head
> over to http://www.gtk.org/~trog>.  That is the home for bezerk, a g=
tk
> based irc client.  I am using gtk1.0 and it compiled and ran fine on my
> box.  I have been a devoted BitchX user for ages, but for those of you
> who find bx and ircii an unfriendly environment, bezerk is worth a look.
>
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From srr03@tid.es Wed Apr 29 11:31:28 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE: hangs
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:31:28 +0200
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  I've tried to open three or four filemanagerwindows, with a web page
on two of them, and perhaps more things. I don't remember. Anyway, KDE
hangs. It stops and I have to kill it. I don't know if it's because it's
a beta or what. I prefer to use the fvw2 or the fvw95. They work quite
good.
Although I recognize that if KDE worked better, I wouldn't doubt about
changing definetely of window manager. KDE is really good, much better
than any others. Most of all for people that come from MSwindows. But it
hangs. A pity.
Bye.

        Xanti


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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Wed Apr 29 11:57:51 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] gui irc client
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:57:51 +0200
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http://freshmeat.net/index?mode=3Dview>&it=
em=3D893461604
You can also download it from my FTP site...
ftp://ftp.student.prov-liege.be/pub/linux/irc/ircd-hybrid-5_2.tar.=
gz>

Pascal
  l'irr=C3=A9ductible Linuxien

-----Original Message-----
From: Santiago Rodriguez 
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date: mercredi 29 avril 1998 14:31
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] gui irc client

>
>  Do you know (by the way) any free irc server?
>
>Thanks
>
>            Xanti
>
>Michael Lankton wrote:
>
>> >From time to time in the past, people on this list who had just migrated
>> from windows had complained about command line unix irc clients.  The
>> SuSE distribution includes zircon, xirc, and tkirc, but for those of you
>> who have tried those and they just weren't quite what you wanted, head
>> over to http://www.gtk.org/~trog>.  That is the home for bezerk, a =
gtk
>> based irc client.  I am using gtk1.0 and it compiled and ran fine on my
>> box.  I have been a devoted BitchX user for ages, but for those of you
>> who find bx and ircii an unfriendly environment, bezerk is worth a look.
>>
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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Wed Apr 29 12:49:39 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.2 headaches (kernel compile)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:49:39 -0400
Message-ID: <354721E2.12633ED4@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil>
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Michael,

Yes, I had some problems.  I was quite intimidated by them at firs.  I took
the error dump and posted it here.  The SuSE gurus had my compiled and
running faster than a Porsche on the Autobahn.  Look back at my mail on the
mail archive.  If that doen't get you up and running, I suggest you post
your errors.  For me, my problems seemed much more difficult than it was.

Steve

Michael Clark wrote:

> I have had a lot of trouble with recompiling the kernel under 5.2.  Am I
> the only one??
>
> The main reason I am recompiling is to enable ppp so I can connect to
> the internet.  (this message ala win95 :-(
>
> Is it possible to install the kernel source from 5.1 into 5.2??  If so,
> just the lx_suse package??  I never had any problems with 5.1 compiling
> and I miss that!!
>
> Thanks
>
> mc
>
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From srr03@tid.es Wed Apr 29 13:40:08 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] gui irc client
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:40:08 +0200
Message-ID: <35472DB8.42366788@tid.es>
In-Reply-To: <01bd7366$09020e30$36320a0a@rubis.inpres.epl.prov-liege.be>
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  Ouh, thank you anyway, but excuse me. I was not clear. I was asking
about a free irc server to connect, like irc.undernet.fr or any.

I ask because the ones that are here in Spain aren't free. You have
to pay to connect to them. Sure there must be free irc server where you
can connect to with good linux channels. That is what I ask for.

Thanks again.

        Xanti

Pascal Bleser wrote:

http://freshmeat.net/index?mode=3Dview&item=3D893461604>

You can also download it from my FTP site...

ftp://ftp.student.prov-liege.be/pub/linux/irc/ircd-hybrid-5_2.=
tar.gz>

Pascal

  l'irréductible Linuxien

-----Original Message-----

From: Santiago Rodriguez 

To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 

Date: mercredi 29 avril 1998 14:31

Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] gui irc client

>

>  Do you know (by the way) any free irc server?

>

>Thanks

>

>          =20
Xanti

>

>Michael Lankton wrote:

>

>> >From time to time in the past, people on this list who had just
migrated

>> from windows had complained about command line unix irc clients.=20
The

>> SuSE distribution includes zircon, xirc, and tkirc, but for those
of you

>> who have tried those and they just weren't quite what you wanted,
head

>> over to http://www.gtk.org/~trog>.=20
That is the home for bezerk, a gtk

>> based irc client.  I am using gtk1.0 and it compiled and ran
fine on my

>> box.  I have been a devoted BitchX user for ages, but for those
of you

>> who find bx and ircii an unfriendly environment, bezerk is worth
a look.

>>

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From thehaas@ravine.binary.net Wed Apr 29 13:45:06 1998
From: thehaas@ravine.binary.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Problems with fvwm2 or X?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:45:06 -0500
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If you ran susewmif to get your .fvwm2rc file, then this shouldn't be
happening - if it was generated by susewmif, something is badly broken
with susewmif.

If you configed it yourself, put in the full pathnames for your=20
executable files in your .fvwm2rc.  That should fix it.

Those are my ideas . . .

- mikeh
=20
>=20
>   Sometimes, when I startx, I can't open anything with the fvwm2 menu. I
> just right or left-clicked my mouse, choose an option in the menu, and
> nothing happens.
> Once upper icons (xeyes, the clock and so) did not apear. I don't know
> why. I'm talking about the defect fvwm2 that comes with suse (wich I
> like very much, by the way).
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks.
>=20
>             Xanti
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From mantel@suse.de Wed Apr 29 14:23:05 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Problems with fvwm2 or X?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:23:05 +0200
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Hi,

On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Santiago Rodriguez wrote:

>   Sometimes, when I startx, I can't open anything with the fvwm2 menu. I
    ^^^^^^^^^

Is "numlock" active?

> just right or left-clicked my mouse, choose an option in the menu, and
> nothing happens.
> Once upper icons (xeyes, the clock and so) did not apear. I don't know
> why. I'm talking about the defect fvwm2 that comes with suse (wich I
> like very much, by the way).
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks.
> 
>             Xanti

    Hubert


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From srr03@tid.es Wed Apr 29 15:06:16 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Problems with fvwm2 or X?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:06:16 +0200
Message-ID: <354741E8.198B5BE6@tid.es>
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  I'm not sure, but has it anything to do with the mouse click or with the
execution of programs under X?

Hubert Mantel wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Santiago Rodriguez wrote:
>
> >   Sometimes, when I startx, I can't open anything with the fvwm2 menu. I
>     ^^^^^^^^^
>
> Is "numlock" active?
>


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From jdkc@woptura.com Wed Apr 29 15:09:40 1998
From: jdkc@woptura.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Connectix QuickCam
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:09:40 -0500
Message-ID: <354742B4.51A3AA8A@woptura.com>
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Can anyone help me get my Connectix Color QuickCam set up
and working in Linux (SuSE 5.1) ?

Or point me in the right direction to get started?

Many thanks.


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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Wed Apr 29 15:16:11 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:16:11 -0700
Message-ID: <199804291516.IAA23742@skaro.nightcrawler.com>
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=20
> I cannot seem to be able to install 5.1. I find the manual very poorly
> written. Can someone please help.
> My had drive is partitioned as follows C: 1219, D: 476, E: 191, F: 75.
> The only reason that I installed DOS was to have an operating sys. Since I
> am using a 486 with an old BIOS I am forced to use a disk manager program.
> I want the computer to be used only for Linux. If anyone can give me step
> by step directions it would be greatly appreciated.

While I do not have step-by-step directions, I do have a bit of
commentary.  While I believe it is currently possible to get linux to do
this, I don't remember where I saw the information, and moreover I don't
think you want to.  It will severely impact performance, and
subjigate(sp?) your stability to the operation of said program.

I believe the diskmanager has to do with the INT13 BIOS calls not being
able to extend to cover the entire disk.  As linux does not make disk
accesses via the BIOS, it should only be necessary for LILO and the
kernel file to be available within the BIOS-accessable region.

perhaps the following howto is relevant?
http://www.li.org/Resources=
/HOWTO/mini/Large-Disk>

As for what to do, i'd say use a floppy boot (dos or windows) to avoid
the diskmanager and repartition.  Eliminate diskmanager.  Follow the
HOWTO thenceforth.

Peer review requested and welcomed,

-josh

> I tried to install all the packages and received a message that
> installation failed.
> The only reason I want to get this up and going now is to learn UNIX, Perl,
> and hook it up to my network.
> Sorry for the length of this post but I am getting very frustrated.
>=20
> Thank you
> rweis(a)sympatico.ca
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From mantel@suse.de Wed Apr 29 15:31:27 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: Problems with fvwm2 or X?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:31:27 +0200
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Hi,

On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Santiago Rodriguez wrote:

>   I'm not sure, but has it anything to do with the mouse click or with the
> execution of programs under X?

Yes, it's a modifier. Clicking mouse button 1 while pressing shift is
different to just clicking button 1 which is different to clicking button
1 while numlock is active. 

> > On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Santiago Rodriguez wrote:
> >
> > >   Sometimes, when I startx, I can't open anything with the fvwm2 menu. I
> >     ^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Is "numlock" active?

    Hubert


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From rweis@sympatico.ca Wed Apr 29 15:38:46 1998
From: rweis@sympatico.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:38:46 -0400
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I cannot seem to be able to install 5.1. I find the manual very poorly
written. Can someone please help.
My had drive is partitioned as follows C: 1219, D: 476, E: 191, F: 75.
The only reason that I installed DOS was to have an operating sys. Since I
am using a 486 with an old BIOS I am forced to use a disk manager program.
I want the computer to be used only for Linux. If anyone can give me step
by step directions it would be greatly appreciated.
I tried to install all the packages and received a message that
installation failed.
The only reason I want to get this up and going now is to learn UNIX, Perl,
and hook it up to my network.
Sorry for the length of this post but I am getting very frustrated.

Thank you
rweis(a)sympatico.ca

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From sodah@qatar.net.qa Wed Apr 29 16:25:45 1998
From: sodah@qatar.net.qa
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Networking with the Printer Port!
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:25:45 +0200
Message-ID: <199804292222.TAA02337@qatar.net.qa>
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hi,

I want to connect my 2x linux boxes together via parallel port.
how can i do that? which communication protocol do i need?
Help(e.g. doc, script, c-code, http ... etc.) on this would be appreciated.

thx in advance.
fadi


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From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr 29 16:30:58 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] gui irc client
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:30:58 -0500
Message-ID: <354755C2.802CDDED@nfinity.com>
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There is a european list of irc servers at http://homepa=
ges.enterprise.net/raktajino/irc/servers/ordered/europe.html>

Santiago Rodriguez wrote:

   Ouh, thank you anyway, but excuse me.
I was not clear. I was asking about a free irc server to connect, like
irc.undernet.fr or any.

I ask because the ones that are here in Spain aren't free. You have
to pay to connect to them. Sure there must be free irc server where you
can connect to with good linux channels. That is what I ask for.

Thanks again.

        Xanti

Pascal Bleser wrote:

http://freshmeat.net/index?mode=3Dview&item=3D893461604>

You can also download it from my FTP site...

ftp://ftp.student.prov-liege.be/pub/linux/irc/ircd-hybrid-5_2.=
tar.gz>

Pascal

  l'irréductible Linuxien

-----Original Message-----

From: Santiago Rodriguez 

To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 

Date: mercredi 29 avril 1998 14:31

Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] gui irc client

>

>  Do you know (by the way) any free irc server?

>

>Thanks

>

>          =20
Xanti

>

>Michael Lankton wrote:

>

>> >From time to time in the past, people on this list who had just
migrated

>> from windows had complained about command line unix irc clients.=20
The

>> SuSE distribution includes zircon, xirc, and tkirc, but for those
of you

>> who have tried those and they just weren't quite what you wanted,
head

>> over to http://www.gtk.org/~trog>.=20
That is the home for bezerk, a gtk

>> based irc client.  I am using gtk1.0 and it compiled and ran
fine on my

>> box.  I have been a devoted BitchX user for ages, but for those
of you

>> who find bx and ircii an unfriendly environment, bezerk is worth
a look.

>>

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From suse@wavenet.it Wed Apr 29 16:57:35 1998
From: suse@wavenet.it
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sendmail error messages
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:57:35 +0200
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Hello.
I' m getting lots of messages like these in /var/log/mail

Apr 29 16:49:48 localhost sendmail[1661]: My unqualified host name
(localhost) unknown; sleeping for retry
Apr 29 16:50:48 localhost sendmail[1661]: unable to qualify my own domain
name (localhost) -- using short name

Sendmail is working in queued mode and all seems to work fine... but what
do these messages mean? What did I miss? I' ve also seen that, if I type
"mailq", the answer is printed exactly 60 seconds after the request and, 
in /var/log/mail, each of two messages is delayed exactly 60 seconds (if
you see, 16:49:48 - 16:50:48).

Is there anything wrong?

Thanks for your answer.

Bye.

P.S.: I' m using S.u.S.E. 5.1.


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From gecko@benham.net Wed Apr 29 17:01:10 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:01:10 -0700
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On 29-Apr-98 Joshua Rodmanius wrote:
>=20
> =20
>> I cannot seem to be able to install 5.1. I find the manual very poorly
>> written. Can someone please help.
>> My had drive is partitioned as follows C: 1219, D: 476, E: 191, F: 75.
>> The only reason that I installed DOS was to have an operating sys. Since I
>> am using a 486 with an old BIOS I am forced to use a disk manager program.
>> I want the computer to be used only for Linux. If anyone can give me step
>> by step directions it would be greatly appreciated.
>=20
> I believe the diskmanager has to do with the INT13 BIOS calls not being
> able to extend to cover the entire disk.  As linux does not make disk
> accesses via the BIOS, it should only be necessary for LILO and the
> kernel file to be available within the BIOS-accessable region.
>=20
> As for what to do, i'd say use a floppy boot (dos or windows) to avoid
> the diskmanager and repartition.  Eliminate diskmanager.  Follow the
> HOWTO thenceforth.

Mr. Rodmanius is correct, the Linux kernel won't use the bios calls and,
therefore, won't be limited the same way DOS is.  LILO, however, will have
problems because the number of cylanders is greater than 1024.  I'd suspect y=
ou
are going to have to use a boot floppy.  As for step by step instructions:

1)  Insert S.u.S.E. install floppy and boot.
2a)  Follow on screen directions :)  =20
2b)  Ok, a little more information... first you'll have to choose Adujstment =
of
installation -> configure harddisk partitions and fill out that.  Depending on
the size of the drive that will determine what sort of partitions you want.
3)  Then exit the YAST program and go back into it.  (Because the partitions
changed).=20
4)  Then choose Adjustment of INstallation -> Set Target partitions/File syst=
em
and set up the mounting points for the partition(s) you set up in step 2.  Ma=
ke
sure you format (and if it's an older hard drive, check) the partition(s)
5)  Then go to Choose/Install packages... It's a good idea to go into
"change/create configuration" just to get an idea of the amount of disk space
you've used.  Maybe the default configuration trys to use more disk space than
you have or than you've allocated to your system.

----------------------------------
http://homepages.skylink.net/~gec=
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From jose.aparicio@uca.es Wed Apr 29 17:20:56 1998
From: jose.aparicio@uca.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:20:56 +0200
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On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, R. Wise wrote:

The install fail message consist in not to be able to reboot?
Have you installed Lilo or make Loadlin installation?
I suppose you have been able to boot from disk. Please confirm.

I have installed Linux recently (trying almost all versions) and SuSe gave
no problems. I use an 'old' p120 with 64M and a Trio32, with 3 HD
attached.
I repartioned Drive E and used a 500M partition for Linux and 32M for
swap. Of course try no to install 'all' or you will collapse the disk

Please give more info if possible.

PS: BTW, I am not a linux guru but an W95 user who uses both OSs.

See you in the Net !!

jose.aparicio(a)uca.es

> 
> I cannot seem to be able to install 5.1. I find the manual very poorly
> written. Can someone please help.
> My had drive is partitioned as follows C: 1219, D: 476, E: 191, F: 75.
> The only reason that I installed DOS was to have an operating sys. Since I
> am using a 486 with an old BIOS I am forced to use a disk manager program.
> I want the computer to be used only for Linux. If anyone can give me step
> by step directions it would be greatly appreciated.
> I tried to install all the packages and received a message that
> installation failed.
> The only reason I want to get this up and going now is to learn UNIX, Perl,
> and hook it up to my network.
> Sorry for the length of this post but I am getting very frustrated.
> 
> Thank you
> rweis(a)sympatico.ca
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From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr 29 17:32:23 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:32:23 -0500
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Setting up sound on a linux box is somewhat daunting the first time you
attempt it.  You need to compile sound as a module in your kernel.  The
best advice I can give is to drop by ftp://sunsite.unc.edu>, and download
the various how to's on sound and isapnp.  Sunsite is down at the moment,
but I believe they are in /pub/Linux/doc/HOWTO.
I realize this probably doesn't seem very helpful to you now, but read the
available documentation, post _specific_ questions to the mailing list (or
on irc), and you'll get it sooner or later.
Good luck to you.

Sergio Rael Gutierrez wrote:

> On 28-Apr-98 John Weekley wrote:
>
> > Wow, I could've sworn I heard mp3's, au's and wav's playing from my
> > Soundblaster AWE32 on my SuSE  box :)
> >
> > It DOES have sound support, you just have to compile it in.  RTFM.
>
> For me it's impossible to play a sound with my SB 16 PnP and my PnP
> BIOS. I though that the kernel must have modular sound support for
> Sound Blaster to use Isapnp ... but for my surprise it doesn't and I'm
> pretty sure that for example Red Hat 5.0 does :-?
>
> Could someone tell me what I must do to have my sound card running in
> S.u.S.E. 5.2? I'm absolutely lost about this question :-(
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
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From djb@redhat.com Wed Apr 29 18:55:17 1998
From: djb@redhat.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:55:17 -0400
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> I don't know much about GNOME, but it seems, that it needs glibc,
> so we won't have it until the 6.0 release, but anyway, now that=20
> Qt will be free available (-> c.o.l.a.:"The KDE Free Qt Foundation")
> maybe the GNOME project isn't that important anymore?

Bodo, please read that post you reference again.  Qt is not free
and will not be so until Troll Tech goes out of business or something.

All that is guaranteed is that if Troll goes under, Qt can survive
by becoming free software.  That doesn't solve the real problem that
Qt is *not* free software and as such we (Red Hat) will not ship it
or anything that relies on it.

--Donnie


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From chris123@netcom.ca Wed Apr 29 18:56:30 1998
From: chris123@netcom.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:56:30 -0400
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Greetings:

For practice and recycling purposes I tried to install SUSE 5.1 on a
486DX50 puter i was given at no cost, (huh....ever try buy ram for these
puppies..ouch!!) Any way, I ran into the same bios limitation as it
max;s out at 154. I attached a 2.5 gig hd as slave. got it working
easily (I cheated, istalled linux from my P133 and swithed drives) but
could not get it to boot with out a boot disk on the 486. Not cool, and
not worthy as recycling method...to mush disruption to the user. we live
in a point a click world unfortunately. My project was to build a disc
and method so that I would be able to give friends a loaded SUSE hd,
regardless of machine spec's within reason, and just attach it as slave.

I tried everything to get it to boot from the master disc then posted
(read also the LILO howto). Answere I got back so far is this, but has
not been tested due to lack of time. Others may wish to correct this
scenario if you choose to read this post.

theory:

Set the bios to recognize the primary hd only. Put a 10mg partition on
the primary at the front if possible and place lilo program files in
this partition (this would be labelled as primary in dos but not active,
dos 6.2 resides in the extended partition set as active) edit Lilo to
point to the /boot partion in DOS. Install Lilo in the mbr as always
with the option to toggle to Linux and DOS, now when you call for Linux,
lillo will no point to its own program which will launched and recognize
all drives as it is not dependant on the machine bios at this point in
the boot sequence. the result should be a fuly functional dos disc and a
fully functional Linx disc. =20

Practice: this works? anyone try it.

SuSE 5.1 on a 486DX50 at the command line is not appreciably slower than
on my P133, xwindows is a pig with a 1991 ATI 8bit, 1mg Ultra vid
card....be advised...a 30 CDN upgrade for a used vid card is a must, if
you want to run Xwindows. On the otherhand this thing makes an axcellent
firewall, print server, ipmasquarading box, etc for a 20 CDN used
network card. =20

Comment and advise?  any would be appreciated.

Chris
Jose Aparicio wrote:
>=20
> On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, R. Wise wrote:
>=20
> The install fail message consist in not to be able to reboot?
> Have you installed Lilo or make Loadlin installation?
> I suppose you have been able to boot from disk. Please confirm.
>=20
> I have installed Linux recently (trying almost all versions) and SuSe gave
> no problems. I use an 'old' p120 with 64M and a Trio32, with 3 HD
> attached.
> I repartioned Drive E and used a 500M partition for Linux and 32M for
> swap. Of course try no to install 'all' or you will collapse the disk
>=20
> Please give more info if possible.
>=20
> PS: BTW, I am not a linux guru but an W95 user who uses both OSs.
>=20
> See you in the Net !!
>=20
> jose.aparicio(a)uca.es
>=20
> >
> > I cannot seem to be able to install 5.1. I find the manual very poorly
> > written. Can someone please help.
> > My had drive is partitioned as follows C: 1219, D: 476, E: 191, F: 75.
> > The only reason that I installed DOS was to have an operating sys. Since I
> > am using a 486 with an old BIOS I am forced to use a disk manager program.
> > I want the computer to be used only for Linux. If anyone can give me step
> > by step directions it would be greatly appreciated.
> > I tried to install all the packages and received a message that
> > installation failed.
> > The only reason I want to get this up and going now is to learn UNIX, Per=
l,
> > and hook it up to my network.
> > Sorry for the length of this post but I am getting very frustrated.
> >
> > Thank you
> > rweis(a)sympatico.ca
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>=20
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From brauki@cww.de Wed Apr 29 19:21:18 1998
From: brauki@cww.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:21:18 +0200
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Sergio Rael Gutierrez wrote:
> 
> On 28-Apr-98 John Weekley wrote:
> 
> > Wow, I could've sworn I heard mp3's, au's and wav's playing from my
> > Soundblaster AWE32 on my SuSE  box :)
> >
> > It DOES have sound support, you just have to compile it in.  RTFM.
> 
> For me it's impossible to play a sound with my SB 16 PnP and my PnP
> BIOS. I though that the kernel must have modular sound support for
> Sound Blaster to use Isapnp ... but for my surprise it doesn't and I'm
> pretty sure that for example Red Hat 5.0 does :-?
> 
there is a file /etc/conf.modules. this file has to be edited too. I got
beserk with an ethernet card that whould not work on my running system.
(it worked for diskboot and nfs-install). possibly, changes have to be
done there too.

If you use PnP, there is the isapnp tool. (I never understood it's
output ;-( )

I use an old 8 bit soundblaster with _JUMPERS_, hate all this "fuck and
pay" stuff. Tried one of these cards too. ran nice under windows. But
these were the days before I heared of conf.modules and isapnp.

> Could someone tell me what I must do to have my sound card running in
> S.u.S.E. 5.2? I'm absolutely lost about this question :-(
> 

Jürgen


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From brauki@cww.de Wed Apr 29 19:37:56 1998
From: brauki@cww.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:37:56 +0200
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R. Wise wrote:
> 
> I cannot seem to be able to install 5.1. I find the manual very poorly
> written. Can someone please help.
> My had drive is partitioned as follows C: 1219, D: 476, E: 191, F: 75.
> The only reason that I installed DOS was to have an operating sys. Since I
> am using a 486 with an old BIOS I am forced to use a disk manager program.
> I want the computer to be used only for Linux. If anyone can give me step
> by step directions it would be greatly appreciated.
> I tried to install all the packages and received a message that
> installation failed.
> The only reason I want to get this up and going now is to learn UNIX, Perl,
> and hook it up to my network.
> Sorry for the length of this post but I am getting very frustrated.
> 
> Thank you
> rweis(a)sympatico.ca

Hello,

The Gecko said most of all. Maybe a few remarks. I run Linux on an "old"
486 too, with a 1GB Harddrive thats exeeds the 512MB limit as well.

Linux harddrives do not realy need an _exact_ entry in the system bios.
(I did not bother to enter the second disk of 120 MB)
And I cheated about the first. The boot partition, however must be
located below the 512MB limit (or was it track < 1024?). I have a 70 MB
root partition, rest of the disk are diverse partitions, swap, /usr,
etc. I entered just the disks geometry and the amount of track in the
root partition into the bios, to make the machine look for a disk to
attempt a boot from. as soon it finds linux, it will know things much
better than the stuff designed for bill. ;-)

Jürgen


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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Wed Apr 29 20:24:12 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release / Gnome & KDE
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:24:12 -0700
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> > I don't know much about GNOME, but it seems, that it needs glibc,
> > so we won't have it until the 6.0 release, but anyway, now that 
> > Qt will be free available (-> c.o.l.a.:"The KDE Free Qt Foundation")
> > maybe the GNOME project isn't that important anymore?
> 
> Bodo, please read that post you reference again.  Qt is not free
> and will not be so until Troll Tech goes out of business or something.
> 
> All that is guaranteed is that if Troll goes under, Qt can survive
> by becoming free software.  That doesn't solve the real problem that
> Qt is *not* free software and as such we (Red Hat) will not ship it
> or anything that relies on it.

[Warning, rant ahead]

Hmm.. 
Perhaps I am out of line here, but I find this rather annoying.  I
believe this is the SuSE mailing list, so I would tend to assume that
Bodo's comments referred to what is important to SuSE Linux in
particular or perhaps the world in general, rather than what is
important to Red Hat Linux.

Additionally, Bodo states "Qt will be free avilable" which it IS!  Qt is
free for the purposes of the KDE projet and all other non-commercial
efforts.  It may not be "free software" by the GPL definition of such,
but perhaps this merely serves to underline the problems with the term
"Free Software".  However it is freely available, and free from cost for
the KDE project.

I remain unconvinced that the Troll boogeymen will jump out and attack
the Linux world as soon as they are entrenched in power.  The source
code is available.  Diffs from the field are accepted, frequent views
are made availble, you can modify the source.  The functional
differences between free software and Qt are, as I see it

1) Troll could take the source and make it proprietary.

Answer: No, they can't, this is what the foundation is about.

2) If people want to add features to Qt that Troll doesn't, they're out
of luck.

Answer: This is true.  However, I have heard exactly 0 examples of such
things, even in a hypothetical context.  Troll knows what they're doing
and they have the best graphic toolkit around.

3) Commercial companies will have to pay Troll to develop Qt apps for
KDE.  

Answer: This is true.  Firstly though, it is a small barrier to
companies who expect to make any decent amount of money off their
products.  Additionally, this is a tradeoff from commercial companies
having to worry about GPL taints from GTK.  You may discount such as
silly, but it's a real concern for companies trying to sell
traditional-model apps into this unix world.

In short, it is Red Hat's policy to ship only "Free Software" with their
distribution.  Well perhaps I'm missing something, but I see on your
website that Red Hat ships with Metro-X, BRU2000-PE, and
RealPlayer/Encoder/Server.  Perhaps you are referring to the freely
downloadable version of Red hat?

As far as I can see, Red Hat is taking the stand that Free Software is
the Right Thing To Do.  And while I have trouble integrating the
reselling of various no-source products bundled with Red Hat into that
philosophy, I will accept that their internal product is intended to
stay pure.  

However, I have a different view.  I do not see Free Software as
intrinsically necessary.  I see it as a powerful tool for enabling
technologies, work, and progress.  I myself have spent a relatively
minute, but existant, amount of time attempting to submit assistance to
a few "Free Software" projects such as the VIM editor.  However, I'm for
things that work.  I bought OSS because it worked.  I plan on purchasing
XiGraphics AccelX because it works much faster than the Xfree servers.
KDE and Qt work, and work well.  There exists no danger of it becoming
closed.

I recommend Red Hat to many people side by side with SuSE.  Some
denigrate SuSE for shipping with commercial apps.  Some find it useful
for the same reasons.

Do we not have enough space for more than one idiology in the Linux
community?

-josh

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From bb@suse.com Wed Apr 29 20:24:18 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Networking with the Printer Port!
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:24:18 -0700
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Fadi Sodah wrote:
>=20
> hi,
>=20
> I want to connect my 2x linux boxes together via parallel port.
> how can i do that? which communication protocol do i need?
> Help(e.g. doc, script, c-code, http ... etc.) on this would be appreciated.
>=20

You can configure this with YaST. Use the PLIP interfaces to set up
a point to point connection between your two boxes. You need a=20
laplink like cable to connect the machines.

Ciao,
        BB


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From lach@lach.net Wed Apr 29 20:59:04 1998
From: lach@lach.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:59:04 -0500
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Sergio,

I have the same card, and I just want to let you know, it works great
under 5.2 SuSE.

The default config is IO=220, DMA 1 & 5 and IRQ 7.  My card had set it's
self up to IRQ 5 so I had to change the settings in the kernel config.
Also be sure to turn on /dev/dsp and /dev/audio line in the same area of
kernel config.

Then go through the steps of build and installing a kernel and modules.

Here is a section of my .config

#
# Sound
#
CONFIG_SOUND=m
# CONFIG_PAS is not set
CONFIG_SB=y
# CONFIG_ADLIB is not set
# CONFIG_GUS is not set
# CONFIG_MPU401 is not set
# CONFIG_UART6850 is not set
# CONFIG_PSS is not set
# CONFIG_GUS16 is not set
# CONFIG_GUSMAX is not set
# CONFIG_MSS is not set
# CONFIG_SSCAPE is not set
# CONFIG_TRIX is not set
# CONFIG_MAD16 is not set
# CONFIG_CS4232 is not set
# CONFIG_MAUI is not set
CONFIG_AUDIO=y
# CONFIG_MIDI is not set
# CONFIG_YM3812 is not set
SBC_BASE=220
SBC_IRQ=5
SBC_DMA=1
SB_DMA2=5
SB_MPU_BASE=0
SB_MPU_IRQ=-1
DSP_BUFFSIZE=65536
# CONFIG_LOWLEVEL_SOUND is not set

Good Luck

Lach


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From rweis@sympatico.ca Wed Apr 29 21:02:28 1998
From: rweis@sympatico.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:02:28 -0400
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I can boot from disk. Then I followed the instructions, partions, change
type, format, the when it came to mount point and file systems I got lost.
The book does not seem to explain it very well. I want the computer to only
run Linux as I want to learn UNIX, X-Windows, Perl, etc. I had NT work
Station running before with no problem, server and workstation work fine
over network.
Guess I'll call Tech support.
Thanks
R. Weisbloom
rweis(a)sympatico.ca

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> From: Jose Aparicio 
> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 1:20 PM
> 
> 
> On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, R. Wise wrote:
> 
> The install fail message consist in not to be able to reboot?
> Have you installed Lilo or make Loadlin installation?
> I suppose you have been able to boot from disk. Please confirm.
> 
> I have installed Linux recently (trying almost all versions) and SuSe
gave
> no problems. I use an 'old' p120 with 64M and a Trio32, with 3 HD
> attached.
> I repartioned Drive E and used a 500M partition for Linux and 32M for
> swap. Of course try no to install 'all' or you will collapse the disk
> 
> Please give more info if possible.
> 
> PS: BTW, I am not a linux guru but an W95 user who uses both OSs.
> 
> See you in the Net !!
> 
> jose.aparicio(a)uca.es
> 
> > 
> > I cannot seem to be able to install 5.1. I find the manual very poorly
> > written. Can someone please help.
> > My had drive is partitioned as follows C: 1219, D: 476, E: 191, F: 75.
> > The only reason that I installed DOS was to have an operating sys.
Since I
> > am using a 486 with an old BIOS I am forced to use a disk manager
program.
> > I want the computer to be used only for Linux. If anyone can give me
step
> > by step directions it would be greatly appreciated.
> > I tried to install all the packages and received a message that
> > installation failed.
> > The only reason I want to get this up and going now is to learn UNIX,
Perl,
> > and hook it up to my network.
> > Sorry for the length of this post but I am getting very frustrated.
> > 
> > Thank you
> > rweis(a)sympatico.ca
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From gecko@benham.net Wed Apr 29 21:31:57 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:31:57 -0700
Message-ID: 
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On 29-Apr-98 R. Wise wrote:
>=20
> I can boot from disk. Then I followed the instructions, partions, change
> type, format, the when it came to mount point and file systems I got lost.
> The book does not seem to explain it very well. I want the computer to only
> run Linux as I want to learn UNIX, X-Windows, Perl, etc. I had NT work
> Station running before with no problem, server and workstation work fine
> over network.
> Guess I'll call Tech support.
> Thanks
> R. Weisbloom
> rweis(a)sympatico.ca
How many partitions do you have?  What size?  If you have one.. just set up t=
he
mountpoint /

I guess, part of what you need to understand is: Unix/Linux does not have dri=
ve
letters the way MSDos does.  Instead, each partition looks like a directory
that comes off of some place on the boot drive.  For example, your boot drive
in most cases is called /   that is, just a slash and is the "root"  If I had=
 a
second partition, I'd call it /usr   That is, the usr directory off of "root"=
.=20
If I were there change directories to "usr", I'd actually be switching from o=
ne
partition to the next.

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From satan@nfinity.com Wed Apr 29 21:43:46 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:43:46 -0500
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While reading the documentation is ALWAYS a good idea, when first getting into
linux I would also recommend reading a good book on the subject.  I can't thi=
nk
of a better reference for the linux newcomer than 'Running Linux' by Welsh and
Kaufman.  I think it will answer many of your questions in clear, concise
language, and get you started down the road to unix literacy should you choose
to read it.
Good luck.

R. Wise wrote:

> I can boot from disk. Then I followed the instructions, partions, change
> type, format, the when it came to mount point and file systems I got lost.
> The book does not seem to explain it very well. I want the computer to only
> run Linux as I want to learn UNIX, X-Windows, Perl, etc. I had NT work
> Station running before with no problem, server and workstation work fine
> over network.
> Guess I'll call Tech support.
> Thanks
> R. Weisbloom
> rweis(a)sympatico.ca
>
> ----------
> > From: Jose Aparicio 
> > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
> > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 1:20 PM
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, R. Wise wrote:
> >
> > The install fail message consist in not to be able to reboot?
> > Have you installed Lilo or make Loadlin installation?
> > I suppose you have been able to boot from disk. Please confirm.
> >
> > I have installed Linux recently (trying almost all versions) and SuSe
> gave
> > no problems. I use an 'old' p120 with 64M and a Trio32, with 3 HD
> > attached.
> > I repartioned Drive E and used a 500M partition for Linux and 32M for
> > swap. Of course try no to install 'all' or you will collapse the disk
> >
> > Please give more info if possible.
> >
> > PS: BTW, I am not a linux guru but an W95 user who uses both OSs.
> >
> > See you in the Net !!
> >
> > jose.aparicio(a)uca.es
> >
> > >
> > > I cannot seem to be able to install 5.1. I find the manual very poorly
> > > written. Can someone please help.
> > > My had drive is partitioned as follows C: 1219, D: 476, E: 191, F: 75.
> > > The only reason that I installed DOS was to have an operating sys.
> Since I
> > > am using a 486 with an old BIOS I am forced to use a disk manager
> program.
> > > I want the computer to be used only for Linux. If anyone can give me
> step
> > > by step directions it would be greatly appreciated.
> > > I tried to install all the packages and received a message that
> > > installation failed.
> > > The only reason I want to get this up and going now is to learn UNIX,
> Perl,
> > > and hook it up to my network.
> > > Sorry for the length of this post but I am getting very frustrated.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > > rweis(a)sympatico.ca
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From rweis@sympatico.ca Wed Apr 29 21:45:48 1998
From: rweis@sympatico.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:45:48 -0400
Message-ID: <199804292146.RAA17473@smtp13.bellglobal.com>
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I'll try and pick it up tomorrow or later tonight. But first I'd like to
get the program installed. I'm just getting a little frustrated. Guess I'll
call tech support soon. A bit expensive from Canada but hopefully they can
walk me through the first steps.
Thanks
R. Weisbloom
rweis(a)sympatico.ca

----------
> From: Michael Lankton 
> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 5:43 PM
> 
> 
> While reading the documentation is ALWAYS a good idea, when first getting
into
> linux I would also recommend reading a good book on the subject.  I can't
think
> of a better reference for the linux newcomer than 'Running Linux' by
Welsh and
> Kaufman.  I think it will answer many of your questions in clear, concise
> language, and get you started down the road to unix literacy should you
choose
> to read it.
> Good luck.
> 
> R. Wise wrote:
> 
> > I can boot from disk. Then I followed the instructions, partions,
change
> > type, format, the when it came to mount point and file systems I got
lost.
> > The book does not seem to explain it very well. I want the computer to
only
> > run Linux as I want to learn UNIX, X-Windows, Perl, etc. I had NT work
> > Station running before with no problem, server and workstation work
fine
> > over network.
> > Guess I'll call Tech support.
> > Thanks
> > R. Weisbloom
> > rweis(a)sympatico.ca
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: Jose Aparicio 
> > > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> > > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
> > > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 1:20 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, R. Wise wrote:
> > >
> > > The install fail message consist in not to be able to reboot?
> > > Have you installed Lilo or make Loadlin installation?
> > > I suppose you have been able to boot from disk. Please confirm.
> > >
> > > I have installed Linux recently (trying almost all versions) and SuSe
> > gave
> > > no problems. I use an 'old' p120 with 64M and a Trio32, with 3 HD
> > > attached.
> > > I repartioned Drive E and used a 500M partition for Linux and 32M for
> > > swap. Of course try no to install 'all' or you will collapse the disk
> > >
> > > Please give more info if possible.
> > >
> > > PS: BTW, I am not a linux guru but an W95 user who uses both OSs.
> > >
> > > See you in the Net !!
> > >
> > > jose.aparicio(a)uca.es
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I cannot seem to be able to install 5.1. I find the manual very
poorly
> > > > written. Can someone please help.
> > > > My had drive is partitioned as follows C: 1219, D: 476, E: 191, F:
75.
> > > > The only reason that I installed DOS was to have an operating sys.
> > Since I
> > > > am using a 486 with an old BIOS I am forced to use a disk manager
> > program.
> > > > I want the computer to be used only for Linux. If anyone can give
me
> > step
> > > > by step directions it would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > I tried to install all the packages and received a message that
> > > > installation failed.
> > > > The only reason I want to get this up and going now is to learn
UNIX,
> > Perl,
> > > > and hook it up to my network.
> > > > Sorry for the length of this post but I am getting very frustrated.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > > rweis(a)sympatico.ca
> > > > --
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From hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil Wed Apr 29 22:20:58 1998
From: hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Help With German -> off topic.
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:20:58 -0400
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This is not Linux related.  (Well, I *am* using Star Office on SuSE.)
I'm writing a paper on Quantum Physics, and I want to say that physics
has a tom cat.  As I remember, having a tom cat is slang for having a
hangover.  I don't remember what form of the article I should use.  I
think it would be "Physik hat einer Kater".  Can someone tell me if this
is correct?

In case you are wondering, I am talking about Schroedinger's cat
paradox.

TIA,

Steve


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From martin_moeller@ibm.net Wed Apr 29 22:42:08 1998
From: martin_moeller@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Grabbing KDM?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:42:08 +0100
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Simone Castellaneta wrote:
> 
> The same thing happened me: after I' ve installed GTK 1.0.0, Gimp stopped
> working and up to now I didn' t success making it work again. I' ve also
> uninstalled the rpmed Suse Gimp and installed a new one compiled from
> source but no success. :((
I managed to get GIMP 0.99.28 (I believe, the latest, anyway) to work
with GTK 1.0.0 when I compiled it (maaaan it takes a while ;) - no
errors, though).

I guess I didn't handle linuxconf quite right because my system went all
bogus on me, so I've started afresh. I needed to anyway, since I had
installed way more than I'd ever use (but hey, I'm reviewing the thing
and need to see what's there ;)). No Windows-user have ever almost run
out of harddisk space installing everything that came with the OS
(unless they have old hardware), but with S.u.S.E.  Linux, it's quite
possible ;) - I've bumped up my partition sized twice, so I now am at
750 MB for / and 2.3 GB for /usr (and yes, there's a long way before
they are full just now, but gimme a few months.... ;))

And now for something completely different:
Have anyone here tried the 'Open' dialog in various KDE Beta 4 apps
(particularly KMid and/or KMandel)? It looks real spiffy, BUT! at my
place, it forgets it's bookmarks as soon as you press OK and the default
directory also goes back to what it was before you manouvered away from
it. Slightly annoying, but the Idea is promising.

And one more thing: When I compiled KDE Beta 4 from sources (the first
time), it installed two 3D screensavers, but when I installed the
binaries from the S.u.S.E. ftp site, they were nowhere to be found
(clean install, just having reformated'n'all. KDE Beta 3 already there).
Why weren't they in the binaries, I wonder?

That's is for now...

Martin Moeller..


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From martin_moeller@ibm.net Wed Apr 29 22:47:29 1998
From: martin_moeller@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:47:29 +0100
Message-ID: <3547AE01.5737@ibm.net>
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Bruce A. Rothwell wrote:
> 
> Will SuSE Linux 6.0 have sound support ALA RedHat?
> 
> I've GIVEN UP on getting sound to work on my Linux 5.1
> installation. When I found out 5.2 doesn't offer any
> extra sound support as RedHat now does, I called and
> had my name removed from the Constant Upgrade program...
What soundcard do you have, since it won't work?
SB AWE 32 works fine for me (kernel recompile for full features)
SB AWE 64 should have a patch in the unsorted/patches dir on Disk 1
(haven't tried it yet, but plan to)
GUS is already there...

Of course that leaves a lot of other cards, which one's yours?

Also, there's the ALSA project going on that sounds real promising
(nothing to do with S.u.S.E. though), but I didn't get it to work for
me. The OSSFree sound enginge does a good job, though, so I can live
with it..


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From martin_moeller@ibm.net Wed Apr 29 22:55:47 1998
From: martin_moeller@ibm.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re:suse-announce-e
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:55:47 +0100
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gordster(a)juno.com wrote:
> 
>  I agree that announce is low on activity, but that is GOOD for a person
> who doesn't have time to keep up with this list, [and before you've been
> on here very long you will realize it's a commitment].  So I agree with
> SuSE that there is a good separate purpose for each list. Besides, you
> won't miss anything while on this list any way, and if you doubt that, it
> isn't hard for people like you and me to subscribe to both lists. is it?
No, and that is exactly what I'm doing. And even though I get more mail
than I can easily cope with, I would however like for a mailing list
I've subscribed to to occasionally post messages ;) - As I posted later,
the online web-archive shows ONE message in suse-announce-e, the
availability of JWS2.0 for Linux.
My suggestion would probably give a few messages per week if
implemented. That should be tolerable for most people, right?


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From dana@ntd.net Thu Apr 30 00:15:19 1998
From: dana@ntd.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:15:19 -0500
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R. Wise wrote:

> I can boot from disk. Then I followed the instructions, partions, change
> type, format, the when it came to mount point and file systems I got lost.
> The book does not seem to explain it very well. I want the computer to only
> run Linux as I want to learn UNIX, X-Windows, Perl, etc. I had NT work
> Station running before with no problem, server and workstation work fine
> over network.

Normally you would have a the following mount points:/       <- this should be
around 200MB, although mine is at 300MB.
/usr  <- most of your programs go here, so give it as much room as
             possible.
Finally, a swap partition.  It can be up to 128MB in size.

That should get the installation going for you.  After the install is
done go into the /usr/doc/howto directory and read like a mad man. ;-)

Dana


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From dana@ntd.net Thu Apr 30 00:23:39 1998
From: dana@ntd.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Connectix QuickCam
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:23:39 -0500
Message-ID: <3547C48B.1587A6C9@ntd.net>
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J.D.K. Chipps wrote:

> Can anyone help me get my Connectix Color QuickCam set up
> and working in Linux (SuSE 5.1) ?
>
> Or point me in the right direction to get started?

Try: http://eunuchs.org/quickcam/index.html>  Btw, the
rest of the site is worth exploring.  Plenty of cool info!

Dana


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From mhtexcollins@ccms.net Thu Apr 30 00:36:32 1998
From: mhtexcollins@ccms.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:36:32 -0500
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    I don't know why but when I installed SuSE 5.1 on my machine  this
last time,   (And picked almost all to install)  Sound worked with a
simple rplayd and a module click.  Maybe it is OSS working, but I do not
think so.  I set up the cdrom player and it works wonderfully.
    The first couple times I set up I did not load "almost everything"
and these systems were severly handicapped in a lot of ways,  So if you
want to use some cool features, Insist on almost everything.....   But I
really did want to hack the kernal.  Have fun.


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From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Thu Apr 30 01:11:36 1998
From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Panasonic KX1150 Printer
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:11:36 -0500
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Jim Hodgers wrote:

> I have been given a Panasonic KX1150 printer. I have no manual for it or
> any other documentation. Does anyone know which printer might work for
> suse5.1 apsfilter? The epson filter does not work!!
> Jim
>

I've got a Panasonic KXP2123 and the Epson Color Commands work great for
it:-)When I found the manual, it said to use a Epson 860?, but I've got
Linux set up using the  epson family and it seems to work ok both as a
Linux printer and as a network printer:-)

The only problem I've had with it is that tho I can print color, I can't
seem to find anything in Linux that will define colors in a document.  But,
from my Win95 machine, when I print to it, it does print the right colors
at the right time:-)


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From fpawlak@execpc.com Thu Apr 30 02:30:27 1998
From: fpawlak@execpc.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:30:27 -0500
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Can you determine what address and IRQ you sound card is configured at?  Have=
 you tried to use the PnP package that is included in SuSE?  I have never use=
d a PnP card with Linux so you'll have to try and use it to setup your sound =
card.  When that is done you will have to buils a kernel that has support for=
 you card.  Check the Linux Documentation Project for sound HOWTO's  www.suns=
ite.unc.edu

Hope that helps

Frank

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On 4/29/98, at 1:09 PM, Sergio Rael Gutierrez wrote:=20

>On 28-Apr-98 John Weekley wrote:
>=20
>> Wow, I could've sworn I heard mp3's, au's and wav's playing from my
>> Soundblaster AWE32 on my SuSE  box :)
>>=20
>> It DOES have sound support, you just have to compile it in.  RTFM.
>
>For me it's impossible to play a sound with my SB 16 PnP and my PnP
>BIOS. I though that the kernel must have modular sound support for
>Sound Blaster to use Isapnp ... but for my surprise it doesn't and I'm
>pretty sure that for example Red Hat 5.0 does :-?
>
>Could someone tell me what I must do to have my sound card running in
>S.u.S.E. 5.2? I'm absolutely lost about this question :-(
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
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From jdkc@woptura.com Thu Apr 30 02:57:05 1998
From: jdkc@woptura.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Connectix QuickCam
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:57:05 -0500
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Dana J. Laude wrote:

> J.D.K. Chipps wrote:
>
> > Can anyone help me get my Connectix Color QuickCam set up
> > and working in Linux (SuSE 5.1) ?
> >
> > Or point me in the right direction to get started?
>
> Try: http://eunuchs.org/quickcam/index.html>  Btw, the
> rest of the site is worth exploring.  Plenty of cool info!
>
> Dana

Thanks, looks like lots of good information.


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From morche@sat1.de Thu Apr 30 04:34:20 1998
From: morche@sat1.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Help With German -> off topic.
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 06:34:20 +0200
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Steven T. Hatton wrote:
> 
> This is not Linux related.  (Well, I *am* using Star Office on SuSE.)
> I'm writing a paper on Quantum Physics, and I want to say that physics
> has a tom cat.  As I remember, having a tom cat is slang for having a
> hangover.  I don't remember what form of the article I should use.  I
> think it would be "Physik hat einer Kater".  Can someone tell me if this
> is correct?
...
That is almost correct. It should read "Die Physik hat einen Kater"...

        Regards, Matthias


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From hettar@teleport.com Thu Apr 30 06:33:01 1998
From: hettar@teleport.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Fvwm2rc (xterm problem)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:33:01 -0700
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Hi SuSE:

I am just getting into learning how to
edit .fvwm2rc, and I started by wanting
to change the xterms that pop up as a=20
vt of bash or a shell for the likes of=20
ncftp or ircII/EPIC. =20

Changing them to a color I wanted.
As reading on a pale yellow and grey=20
boarder was not fun.  So I went in
and changed some of the pop-ups

A basic xterm configuration with
a black background and white text is
all I want.  Here is the line I am
currently useing.

xterm -fg white -bg black -e $$$$ ($$$$=3Dwhatever
proggy I will use with the xterm.=20

When I run it, it works alright, but I get
2 errors every xterm that is done like this.

Error:
Warning: Can not convert "to " Boolean type
Warning: Can not convert "to " Boolean type

Now I have tried two other ways to bring up
a white font and black background. Which were

xterm -fg "#ffffff" -bg "#000000"
xterm RGB:77/77/ff (if I remember corectly)
                    (tho this is not b/w)

All three ways give me the same Warning.
I have read the fwm2 man pages, and I attempted
to use (inverse) -hc or something instead of
-fg and -bg, but then it didn't run or come up
at all.

Wondering if you can help me with this?
I would like to get rid of the error messages.


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From roberto@cbvcp.com Thu Apr 30 06:44:20 1998
From: roberto@cbvcp.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] yast with suse 5.1
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:44:20 -0700
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All,

I am trying to uninstall kde beta 1 through yast, but i can't get it to
make a "D" where it shows the status of the packages (under install
packages). what is the key combonation to do this, because i have tried
d, D, ctrl +d, alt+d, space+ctrl, and alt+space.

Aaron Seelye    

http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto>


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From satan@nfinity.com Thu Apr 30 06:56:59 1998
From: satan@nfinity.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Fvwm2rc (xterm problem)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 01:56:59 -0500
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Add this to your .Xdefaults file:

! xterm settings
*VT100.Background: black
*VT100.Foreground: white

Hope this helps.

Steven Udell wrote:

> Hi SuSE:
>
> I am just getting into learning how to
> edit .fvwm2rc, and I started by wanting
> to change the xterms that pop up as a
> vt of bash or a shell for the likes of
> ncftp or ircII/EPIC.
>
> Changing them to a color I wanted.
> As reading on a pale yellow and grey
> boarder was not fun.  So I went in
> and changed some of the pop-ups
>
> A basic xterm configuration with
> a black background and white text is
> all I want.  Here is the line I am
> currently useing.
>
> xterm -fg white -bg black -e $$$$ ($$$$=3Dwhatever
> proggy I will use with the xterm.
>
> When I run it, it works alright, but I get
> 2 errors every xterm that is done like this.
>
> Error:
> Warning: Can not convert "to " Boolean type
> Warning: Can not convert "to " Boolean type
>
> Now I have tried two other ways to bring up
> a white font and black background. Which were
>
> xterm -fg "#ffffff" -bg "#000000"
> xterm RGB:77/77/ff (if I remember corectly)
>                     (tho this is not b/w)
>
> All three ways give me the same Warning.
> I have read the fwm2 man pages, and I attempted
> to use (inverse) -hc or something instead of
> -fg and -bg, but then it didn't run or come up
> at all.
>
> Wondering if you can help me with this?
> I would like to get rid of the error messages.
>
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From hettar@teleport.com Thu Apr 30 08:27:39 1998
From: hettar@teleport.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Fvwm2rc (xterm problem)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 01:27:39 -0700
Message-ID: <354835FB.CB086E10@teleport.com>
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Michael Lankton wrote:
> 
> Add this to your .Xdefaults file:
> 
> ! xterm settings
> *VT100.Background: black
> *VT100.Foreground: white
> 
> Hope this helps.

Heh, ok this doesn't fully work,
I still have a pale yellow background
but I do get a white text... heh
Half solved :P

I still need suggestions on this.. ;)

Steve

> > I am just getting into learning how to
> > edit .fvwm2rc, and I started by wanting
> > to change the xterms that pop up as a
> > vt of bash or a shell for the likes of
> > ncftp or ircII/EPIC.
> >
> > Changing them to a color I wanted.
> > As reading on a pale yellow and grey
> > boarder was not fun.  So I went in
> > and changed some of the pop-ups
> >
> > A basic xterm configuration with
> > a black background and white text is
> > all I want.  Here is the line I am
> > currently useing.
> >
> > xterm -fg white -bg black -e $$$$ ($$$$=whatever
> > proggy I will use with the xterm.
> >
> > When I run it, it works alright, but I get
> > 2 errors every xterm that is done like this.
> >
> > Error:
> > Warning: Can not convert "to " Boolean type
> > Warning: Can not convert "to " Boolean type
> >
> > Now I have tried two other ways to bring up
> > a white font and black background. Which were
> >
> > xterm -fg "#ffffff" -bg "#000000"
> > xterm RGB:77/77/ff (if I remember corectly)
> >                     (tho this is not b/w)
> >
> > All three ways give me the same Warning.
> > I have read the fwm2 man pages, and I attempted
> > to use (inverse) -hc or something instead of
> > -fg and -bg, but then it didn't run or come up
> > at all.
> >
> > Wondering if you can help me with this?
> > I would like to get rid of the error messages.

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From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Thu Apr 30 08:32:49 1998
From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release / Gnome & KDE
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 09:32:49 +0100
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On 29-Apr-98 Joshua Rodmanius wrote:
> 
> I recommend Red Hat to many people side by side with SuSE.  Some
> denigrate SuSE for shipping with commercial apps.  Some find it useful
> for the same reasons.
> 
> Do we not have enough space for more than one idiology in the Linux
> community?
> 
> -josh

Congratulations to Josh on a balanced and realistic view. I especially echo
his last sentence.

Ted.

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From brauki@cww.de Thu Apr 30 08:52:00 1998
From: brauki@cww.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Help With German -> off topic.
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:52:00 +0200
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Steven T. Hatton wrote:
> 
> This is not Linux related.  (Well, I *am* using Star Office on SuSE.)
> I'm writing a paper on Quantum Physics, and I want to say that physics
> has a tom cat.  As I remember, having a tom cat is slang for having a
> hangover.  I don't remember what form of the article I should use.  I
> think it would be "Physik hat einer Kater".  Can someone tell me if this

"Physik hat einen Kater" would bebetter grammar in sense of
"physik has a tom cat".

> is correct?
> 
> In case you are wondering, I am talking about Schroedinger's cat
> paradox.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Steve
> 

Jürgen

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From rdebruin@cistron.nl Thu Apr 30 09:47:44 1998
From: rdebruin@cistron.nl
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:47:44 +0200
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On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Sergio Rael Gutierrez wrote:

> Could someone tell me what I must do to have my sound card running in
> S.u.S.E. 5.2? I'm absolutely lost about this question :-(

You mat try the latest OSS sound driver. It will detect your sound card
automatically and install the software for it. Please note that the
software is not free, nut not expensive either ;) It works like a charm.

Regards, Ruud.


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From srr03@tid.es Thu Apr 30 11:57:45 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] yast with suse 5.1
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:57:45 +0200
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No. You must choose DELETE packages instead of INSTALL packages.

Aaron Seelye wrote:

> All,
>
> I am trying to uninstall kde beta 1 through yast, but i can't get it to
> make a "D" where it shows the status of the packages (under install
> packages). what is the key combonation to do this, because i have tried
> d, D, ctrl +d, alt+d, space+ctrl, and alt+space.
>
> Aaron Seelye    
>
> http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto>
>
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From cfhanke@wpax13.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de Thu Apr 30 12:15:50 1998
From: cfhanke@wpax13.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] yast with suse 5.1
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 14:15:50 +0200
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On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Aaron Seelye wrote:

> 
> All,
> 
> I am trying to uninstall kde beta 1 through yast, but i can't get it to
> make a "D" where it shows the status of the packages (under install
> packages). what is the key combonation to do this, because i have tried
> d, D, ctrl +d, alt+d, space+ctrl, and alt+space.
 
Hi Aaron,

usually you just have to press  without any modifier to switch
through all possibilities...

Bye,

Christof 


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From ke@suse.de Thu Apr 30 12:42:16 1998
From: ke@suse.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release / Gnome & KDE
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 14:42:16 +0200
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(Ted Harding)  writes:

|   > Do we not have enough space for more than one idiology in the Linux
|   > community?

|   > -josh

|   Congratulations to Josh on a balanced and realistic view. I
|   especially echo his last sentence.

Yes, you're right.  But where Donnie is right, he's right, too: qt isn't
free.  But as Josh said, Bodo's choosing of words is okay as well.

Personally, I'm very interested in the fact, that GNOME will work on
S.u.S.E. Linux in the future -- and I don't see any reason why it should
not happen as an alternative to KDE.  Important components of GNOME are
already available on S.u.S.E. Linux, mostly in stable versions (guile,
gtk, gettext).  With the forthcoming S.u.S.E. Linux 6.0 -- don't ask me
for the release date yet -- we'll provide major updates of all these
packages and GNOME will compile out of the box, more or less.  GNU
autoconf will be your friend.


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From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Thu Apr 30 13:40:08 1998
From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release / Gnome & KDE
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 14:40:08 +0100
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On 30-Apr-98 Karl Eichwalder wrote:
> With the forthcoming S.u.S.E. Linux 6.0 -- don't ask me
> for the release date yet -- we'll provide major updates of all these
> packages and GNOME will compile out of the box, more or less.  GNU
> autoconf will be your friend.
> 
> -- 
> Karl Eichwalder          S.u.S.E. GmbH          Fax       +49-911-3206727

That will be an interesting moment. I'm looking forward to it.
Best wishes,
Ted.

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From kepe@home.com Thu Apr 30 14:02:37 1998
From: kepe@home.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] English version of this file?
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 09:02:37 -0500
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Hey guys,
Does anyone have an english version of
/usr/doc/packages/firewall/Firewall-Mini-Howto.* (ps or txt).
This SuSE specific HOWTO is in german and my interpretation qualities
are
not up to par.

Thanks,
Danny
kepe(a)home.com

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From kar@webline.dk Thu Apr 30 14:54:15 1998
From: kar@webline.dk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release / Gnome & KDE
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:54:15 +0100
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> With the forthcoming S.u.S.E. Linux 6.0 -- don't ask me for the
release date yet -- we'll > provide major updates of all these packages
and GNOME will compile out of the box,

That's what I wanted to hear. Then people can decide for them selves if
they want KDE, GNOME or just plain X with any of the WM's - or even CDE.

I'm happy to note, that S.u.S.E. stays clear of any religious motifs and
focus on building the best possible distribution.


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From rweis@sympatico.ca Thu Apr 30 15:54:42 1998
From: rweis@sympatico.ca
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:54:42 -0400
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I tried to Partion as suggested, but when I wanted to install the Premium
package there was less then 5pace warning. Is there a way of disabling
some packages before installation? I do not need games or the help books in
German, they seem to take up a lot of room.
Thanks
R. Weisbloom
rweis(a)sympatico.ca

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> From: Dana J. Laude 
> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com
> Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 8:15 PM
> 
> 
> R. Wise wrote:
> 
> > I can boot from disk. Then I followed the instructions, partions,
change
> > type, format, the when it came to mount point and file systems I got
lost.
> > The book does not seem to explain it very well. I want the computer to
only
> > run Linux as I want to learn UNIX, X-Windows, Perl, etc. I had NT work
> > Station running before with no problem, server and workstation work
fine
> > over network.
> 
> Normally you would have a the following mount points:/       <- this
should be
> around 200MB, although mine is at 300MB.
> /usr  <- most of your programs go here, so give it as much room as
>              possible.
> Finally, a swap partition.  It can be up to 128MB in size.
> 
> That should get the installation going for you.  After the install is
> done go into the /usr/doc/howto directory and read like a mad man. ;-)
> 
> Dana
> 
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From djb@redhat.com Thu Apr 30 15:57:41 1998
From: djb@redhat.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release / Gnome & KDE
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:57:41 -0400
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> > > I don't know much about GNOME, but it seems, that it needs glibc,
> > > so we won't have it until the 6.0 release, but anyway, now that=20
> > > Qt will be free available (-> c.o.l.a.:"The KDE Free Qt Foundation")
> > > maybe the GNOME project isn't that important anymore?
> >=20
> > Bodo, please read that post you reference again.  Qt is not free
> > and will not be so until Troll Tech goes out of business or something.
> >=20
> > All that is guaranteed is that if Troll goes under, Qt can survive
> > by becoming free software.  That doesn't solve the real problem that
> > Qt is *not* free software and as such we (Red Hat) will not ship it
> > or anything that relies on it.
>=20
> [Warning, rant ahead]
>=20
> Hmm..=20
> Perhaps I am out of line here, but I find this rather annoying.  I
> believe this is the SuSE mailing list, so I would tend to assume that
> Bodo's comments referred to what is important to SuSE Linux in
> particular or perhaps the world in general, rather than what is
> important to Red Hat Linux.

Yes, this is correct.  I am not trying to impose any will here, just point
out Red Hat's beliefs and philosophies and the reasons behind them.  Everyone
is still free to do what they want and I will not *judge* based on that
(well, at *least* not in this forum, anyway :-).

My point was merely to correct or at least clarify the statement that
"Qt will be free available".  That implies that it is not now, but that
it will be.  In reality, it will not be any more free than it is now
*unless* Troll decides to go out of business or sell it or something
drastic.  Bodo probably already knew and understood this and slightly
mis-spoke.  I don't know.  Either way, I just don't like to sit idly
by and allow misinformation to be spread, intended or not.

> Additionally, Bodo states "Qt will be free avilable" which it IS!  Qt is

Then how "will" it be if it already "is"? =20

> free for the purposes of the KDE projet and all other non-commercial
> efforts.  It may not be "free software" by the GPL definition of such,
> but perhaps this merely serves to underline the problems with the term
> "Free Software".  However it is freely available, and free from cost for
> the KDE project.

Yes, but it is *not* "free software".  It is also not "freely redistributable=
",
which is part of the basic problem.  Bug fixed versions are not distributable
at all until Troll pulls your fix in, either.

> I remain unconvinced that the Troll boogeymen will jump out and attack
> the Linux world as soon as they are entrenched in power.  The source

In fact, I'm fully convinced that they would *not* do that.  I'm not
scared of this at all.  I like the folks at Troll Tech and admire the
fine work they do quite a bit.  This is not a fight.

> code is available.  Diffs from the field are accepted, frequent views
> are made availble, you can modify the source.  The functional

You can not redistribute it, though.

> differences between free software and Qt are, as I see it
>=20
> 1) Troll could take the source and make it proprietary.
>=20
> Answer: No, they can't, this is what the foundation is about.

Yes, and this is good.

> 2) If people want to add features to Qt that Troll doesn't, they're out
> of luck.
>=20
> Answer: This is true.  However, I have heard exactly 0 examples of such
> things, even in a hypothetical context.  Troll knows what they're doing
> and they have the best graphic toolkit around.

Well, the perfect example is that you are developing an app and you find
a bug.  You *must* wait on the official fix from Troll even if you can fix
it yourself.  While this might be "acceptable" to many, this situation
does not occur with truly "free software".

> 3) Commercial companies will have to pay Troll to develop Qt apps for
> KDE. =20
>=20
> Answer: This is true.  Firstly though, it is a small barrier to
> companies who expect to make any decent amount of money off their
> products.  Additionally, this is a tradeoff from commercial companies
> having to worry about GPL taints from GTK.  You may discount such as
> silly, but it's a real concern for companies trying to sell
> traditional-model apps into this unix world.

Small barrier or not, it is a barrier that does not exist with truly
"free software".

In short, I just don't care to see Qt labelled as "free".  In the
"free software" sense, it is not.  That's my only real gripe with
any of this...if SUSe wants to ship Qt, that's fine with me.  I'd much
rather they stuck with Gnome and GTk+, but they have no obligation
to listen to me.

> In short, it is Red Hat's policy to ship only "Free Software" with their
> distribution.  Well perhaps I'm missing something, but I see on your
> website that Red Hat ships with Metro-X, BRU2000-PE, and
> RealPlayer/Encoder/Server.  Perhaps you are referring to the freely
> downloadable version of Red hat?

The "official" boxed set does.  There are a couple minor differences,=20
though.  One, there is an official "Red Hat" distribution available=20
for free that does not include those components.  We distribute it
ourselves via FTP (at $12k per month for our net connection!) for free
and we also distribute it on our PowerTools CD set.  Other folks sell
it for as little as $2.  The other difference is that none of those
commercial parts are development environments.  We will not include
a commercial development environment simply due to the fact that we
had more than a handful of paying customers who complained that they
would switch to another distribution since they could no longer feel
safe in their ability to buy RH and install it on a commercial developer's
workstation without having to worry about that developer using a library
that weren't freely usable.

> As far as I can see, Red Hat is taking the stand that Free Software is
> the Right Thing To Do.  And while I have trouble integrating the
> reselling of various no-source products bundled with Red Hat into that
> philosophy, I will accept that their internal product is intended to
> stay pure. =20

Those are simply add-ons much like the 30 day installation support that
our product also comes with.  Like I said, if you don't want them we do
offer a *complete* alternative that does not include them.

> However, I have a different view.  I do not see Free Software as
> intrinsically necessary.  I see it as a powerful tool for enabling
> technologies, work, and progress.  I myself have spent a relatively
> minute, but existant, amount of time attempting to submit assistance to
> a few "Free Software" projects such as the VIM editor.  However, I'm for

Woo-hoo!  Vim ROCKS!  :-)

> things that work.  I bought OSS because it worked.  I plan on purchasing
> XiGraphics AccelX because it works much faster than the Xfree servers.
> KDE and Qt work, and work well.  There exists no danger of it becoming
> closed.
>=20
> I recommend Red Hat to many people side by side with SuSE.  Some
> denigrate SuSE for shipping with commercial apps.  Some find it useful
> for the same reasons.
>=20
> Do we not have enough space for more than one idiology in the Linux
> community?

Yes we do.  I hope we always do, in fact.  I just pointed out what I
thought to be a small error in Bodo's wording and followed up with some
commentary on why Red Hat won't ship it.  Given that we won't, it's
obvious that we'd rather other Linux distributions didn't either.  But
we're certainly not going to run around condemning them (especially on
their own lists!) for it. =20

Please note that the only reason I hang out here is to see what's going
on with others in the free software community.  Occasionally I'll chime
in, and since I work for Red Hat it will generally be the Red Hat view of
things.  That doesn't mean anyone has to listen or follow Red Hat.  It's
just our view.  I hope it's welcome even if ignored.  :-)

--Donnie


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From gecko@benham.net Thu Apr 30 16:01:11 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Fvwm2rc (xterm problem)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 09:01:11 -0700
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On 30-Apr-98 Steven Udell wrote:
>=20
> Michael Lankton wrote:
> Heh, ok this doesn't fully work,
> I still have a pale yellow background
> but I do get a white text... heh
> Half solved :P

try looking your ~/.Xresources file.  There is a line for xterm*background
----------------------------------
http://homepages.skylink.net/~gec=
ko/index.html>
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.1
GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--)
O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++
 DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
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From gecko@benham.net Thu Apr 30 16:18:21 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] installing 5.1 under DOS 6.22
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 09:18:21 -0700
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Go into Change/Choose Configuration.  In there, you can install/uninstall
individual packages.

On 30-Apr-98 R. Wise wrote:
>=20
> I tried to Partion as suggested, but when I wanted to install the Premium
> package there was less then 5pace warning. Is there a way of disabling
> some packages before installation? I do not need games or the help books in
> German, they seem to take up a lot of room.
> Thanks
> R. Weisbloom
> rweis(a)sympatico.ca
>=20

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From barothwe@cca.rockwell.com Thu Apr 30 16:36:43 1998
From: barothwe@cca.rockwell.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:36:43 -0500
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John Weekley wrote:
> 
> Wow, I could've sworn I heard mp3's, au's and wav's playing from my
> Soundblaster AWE32 on my SuSE  box :)
> 
> It DOES have sound support, you just have to compile it in.  RTFM.
> 

Wow... it didn't work for me... any of the 3 ways I tried it.

Wow... is it POSSIBLE that not everything is equal?

Wow... perhaps people that are having problems getting something
to work, and are tired of it, are just supposed to shut up.


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From vuralc@etc7-160.me.utexas.edu Thu Apr 30 16:39:15 1998
From: vuralc@etc7-160.me.utexas.edu
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] 3 Button Emulation
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:39:15 -0500
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Hello SuSE Users;

I recently got the SuSE and intalled it on my computer. 
I think I have a problem with XWindows. The problem is 
I cannot higlight a text and paste by using both mouse
 buttons together. It does work on a console, but not on Xwindows.

I have a Microsoft Intellimouse (activated threebutton emulation), or
whatever (there is a wheel in the center), STB Velocity 128 Video Card
(Using XFree86  3.3.2 ).

Any help will be appreciated.
If you need more info please contact with me.

Cengiz Vural


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From pcchan@Newbridge.COM Thu Apr 30 18:09:13 1998
From: pcchan@Newbridge.COM
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: Fat32 patch
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 14:09:13 -0400
Message-ID: <000701bd7463$54b87140$6e3c788a@pcpcchan.ca.newbridge.com>
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I've applied 0.2.9 against kernel 2.0.33 a month ago.  It worked

One thing to watch out is that you should only applied it once and only
once.  The undo
operation does not always remove all the duplications.

I repeated the patches as it did not look like it worked at first (I was not
able to mount the FAT32 partition).  I was not sure what the question meant.
(I figured out after I got all the duplications that it was asking me what I
wantd to do when it found the patches might have been applied).  The sources
and documentation all got messed up.

Anyhow it turned out that the patched kernel was OK all along but I was
trying to mount the wrong partition all the time.

I had a 5G extended FAT32 partition on at the beginning of /dev/hd3.  It
showed up as the 5th partition on the device under linux.  That was the one
I had to mount instead of /dev/hd3a.  I could not find anything on the
documentation about what to mount, but the error message did kind of
implicitly suggest that I was mounting partition which I shouldn't. I did
not realized it really meant it because I got the same message before and
after the patch.  Anyway I worked fine afterwards.

I also turned my other drive to FAT32 afterwards as Microsoft advocated it
under Windows98.  The DOS partition on this drive was 2G and installed as a
primary, I could simply mount /dev/hd1a.

It is nice to be able to access all the DOS partitions.  It's good for
storage and transferring of stuff across.

However, linking and permissions are not supported in DOS partitions.  I
tried to install executable packages on DOS partition directly, it does not
work if it needs links or sticky bits.  Therefore we need need a good size
linux partition.

Good Luck,
PC

-----Original Message-----
From: Hubert Mantel 
To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com 
Date: March 30, 1998 1:11 PM
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: Fat32 patch

>
>Hi,
>
>On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, zentara wrote:
>
>> I don't want to get you upset, since you know all the answers.:-)
>> But that patch dosn't work, or else I'm way off in applying it.
>>
>> First it isn't named VFAT32, its called fat32_joliet_nls_patch-0.2.8.
>
>Yes, this is one of the things I dislike about this patch: It collects
>several things in one big patch. AFAIK there doesn't exist a VFAT32 patch
>alone.
>
>Meanwhile there's a version 0.2.9. I assume this patch will apply better
>against recent kernels.
>
>> And it apparently was for "linux-2.0.31-clean" ; cause it
>> won't work on "linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3".
>
>I assume it will fail with a clean 2.0.33, too. We didn't change anything
>in the relevant parts of the kernel, so you probably need a newer version
>of the patch
(http=
://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html>).
>
>> All it did was REMOVE the vfat option from the filesystems
>> menu in menuconfig.
>
>I think it's not a great deal to apply the rejects manually. But the new
>version of the patch explicitly states that it works with 2.0.33.
>
>> I don't use fat32 anyways, so it really dosn't matter--no complaints.
>>
>> But it would be nice to tell people that SuSe supports fat32,
>> and even Microsoft dosn't yet in NT.
>
>Sure this would be nice. Would save me lots of questions ;-)
>
>> I seem to remember it worked OK under Caldera, it didn't
>> seem buggy.
>
>"Didn't seem buggy" is not enough ;-)
>
>This kind of change is very critical, because existing filesystem code is
>modified. If we end up with corrupted filesystems we have a BIG problem.
>If the kernel is buggy, that's bad for us. If only a S.u.S.E. modified
>kernel is buggy whereas the official kernel works, it's much worse for us.
>Therefore we're waiting for the inclusion of this patch into the official
>kernel. 2.1.x has it already and the web page states it will be included
>in 2.0.34 (if it's ever released).
>
>> zentara
>
>    Hubert
>
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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Thu Apr 30 18:18:20 1998
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Networking with the Printer Port!
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 20:18:20 +0200
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On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Bodo Bauer wrote:

>=20
> Fadi Sodah wrote:
> >=20
> > hi,
> >=20
> > I want to connect my 2x linux boxes together via parallel port.
> > how can i do that? which communication protocol do i need?
> > Help(e.g. doc, script, c-code, http ... etc.) on this would be appreciate=
d.
> >=20
>=20
> You can configure this with YaST. Use the PLIP interfaces to set up
> a point to point connection between your two boxes. You need a=20
> laplink like cable to connect the machines.
>=20
> Ciao,
> 	BB

Hi Bodo!

This is good idea. But could (and how) I set up a connection between my
Linux machine (486/33, SuSE 4.4.1) and my wife's XT (80086, Dos 3.1)? =20

Thanks for your help. AND keep up the GREAT work!

JIM

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none of them on board was a Princess.=20
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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Thu Apr 30 18:29:23 1998
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Networking with the Printer Port!
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 20:29:23 +0200
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On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Bodo Bauer wrote:

>=20
> Fadi Sodah wrote:
> >=20
> > hi,
> >=20
> > I want to connect my 2x linux boxes together via parallel port.
> > how can i do that? which communication protocol do i need?
> > Help(e.g. doc, script, c-code, http ... etc.) on this would be appreciate=
d.
> >=20
>=20
> You can configure this with YaST. Use the PLIP interfaces to set up
> a point to point connection between your two boxes. You need a=20
> laplink like cable to connect the machines.
>=20
> Ciao,
> 	BB
>=20

One other thing! I only need to transfer files.=20

JIM

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Germany=20
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(*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!)

___________ News Flash! -------------- News Flash! ___________________

Yesterday, a ferry boat leaving Haiti sunk and 300 people died, drowned,
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From roberto@cbvcp.com Thu Apr 30 19:31:49 1998
From: roberto@cbvcp.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] yast with suse 5.1
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:31:49 -0700
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Christof Hanke wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Aaron Seelye wrote:
>
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I am trying to uninstall kde beta 1 through yast, but i can't get it to
> > make a "D" where it shows the status of the packages (under install
> > packages). what is the key combonation to do this, because i have tried
> > d, D, ctrl +d, alt+d, space+ctrl, and alt+space.
>
> Hi Aaron,
>
> usually you just have to press  without any modifier to switch
> through all possibilities...

Whenever i hit just space, it would give me two options: i (as it was
installed), and R (to reinstall).  it would alternate between these two.


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From bb@suse.com Thu Apr 30 20:45:18 1998
From: bb@suse.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] English version of this file?
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:45:18 -0700
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Danny Kephart wrote:
>=20
> Hey guys,
> Does anyone have an english version of
> /usr/doc/packages/firewall/Firewall-Mini-Howto.* (ps or txt).
> This SuSE specific HOWTO is in german and my interpretation qualities
> are
> not up to par.

A first draft (needs still some spellchecking) of a english version of
this file is available under
=20
        -> http://www.suse.com/~bb/fw-howto/>

Ciao,
        BB


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From alan@abstraction.compulink.co.uk Thu Apr 30 21:53:41 1998
From: alan@abstraction.compulink.co.uk
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] 5.2 and Adaptec 2940UW
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 22:53:41 +0100
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Hello all!

I've just got 5.2 and started to try to upgrade my system....

BUT.... when it comes to finding the SCSI card it hangs.

The card is an Adaptec 2940UW and I'm trying to load the correct driver
module.

I get the same result if I try to use the kernel with support compiled into
it (copied from the CD to a floppy)

The system that I installed using 5.1 works fine with this card, as it has
to as the CDROM drive is SCSI.

The messages that I get are:-

(scsi0:-1:-1:-1) bad scbptr 16 during SELTO
(scsi0:-1:-1:-1) referenced SCB255 not valid during SELTO
        SCSISEQ = 0x5a SEQADDR = 0x8 STAT0 = 0x15 SSTAT1 = 0x8a

This scrolls up the screen, with a further message every 5 secs or so about
abort and reset (I think) but it is too fast to read.

The only way out is CTRL/ALT/DEL or reset button on the computer.

I have tried updating using the boot disc from 5.1 but it gets into YaST and
says that the  CD is the wrong one!

I have also tried using my previously generated rescue disc.

Any suggestions??

Thanks for reading this far!!

System Info:
Micronics Twister ATX Motherboard.
AMD K6 200MHz
Adaptec 2940UW ver.1.25 BIOS
3COM 905 Network card
Matrox Millenium II video card.

System works fine with S.u.S.E 5.1 and kernel 2.0.32 with compiled-in
support for the SCSI card, and network card. 


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From kepe@home.com Thu Apr 30 21:59:26 1998
From: kepe@home.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] English version of this file?
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:59:26 -0500
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Bodo Bauer wrote:.
>=20
> A first draft (needs still some spellchecking) of a english version of
> this file is available under
>=20
>         -> http://www.suse.com/~bb/fw-howto/>
>=20
> Ciao,
>         BB
>=20
> --
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> bb(a)suse.de            458 Santa Clara Avenue         fax +1-510-835 7875
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Thanks :)


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From mhtexcollins@ccms.net Thu Apr 30 22:35:13 1998
From: mhtexcollins@ccms.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] yast with suse 5.1
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:35:13 -0500
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I think it is "space" till it gets to d....

Aaron Seelye wrote:

> All,
>
> I am trying to uninstall kde beta 1 through yast, but i can't get it to
> make a "D" where it shows the status of the packages (under install
> packages). what is the key combonation to do this, because i have tried
> d, D, ctrl +d, alt+d, space+ctrl, and alt+space.
>
> Aaron Seelye    
>
> http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto>
>
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From brauki@cww.de Thu Apr 30 23:35:55 1998
From: brauki@cww.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next release
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 01:35:55 +0200
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Bruce A. Rothwell wrote:
> 
> John Weekley wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I could've sworn I heard mp3's, au's and wav's playing from my
> > Soundblaster AWE32 on my SuSE  box :)
> >
> > It DOES have sound support, you just have to compile it in.  RTFM.
> >
> 
> Wow... it didn't work for me... any of the 3 ways I tried it.

Is your caer on the list of supported cards?

> 
> Wow... is it POSSIBLE that not everything is equal?

there are so many differencys. I remember a young lady trying to get the
sound running for a few weeks on the german list before succeeding.

> 
> Wow... perhaps people that are having problems getting something
> to work, and are tired of it, are just supposed to shut up.
> 
well i shut up myself on some occasion, but you tried the list instead
of doing so. ;-))
honestly, these list is best for that, only sound might come in somehow
difficult and doing support via this list is just _one_ sort of help.
And sometimes it happens that problems cannot be solved on the spot.
leave it for a week and try to look at it from another angle.

Juergen


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