[opensuse-ja] Re: [opensuse-m17n] Will 12.1 ship ibus as default input method
Hi mates, I will Cc this post to -factory and -ja lists in hopes of getting more feedback. @users who need to input multi-byte characters We are now discussing about replacing SCIM with iBus as our default input method for multi-byte characters. If you are interested in this topic, please try ibus related packages in M17N repo and if you find some problems, join the discussion on -m17n list or comment the feature #308892. https://features.opensuse.org/308892 Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:31:53 +0000, Ray Chen wrote:
I've download 12.1 m1 DVD Found that default input method is still scim Scim seems out of maintenance I hope 12.1 can use ibus as default input method but keep scim in dvd as an optional choise and add gcin and fcitx (available in M17N) to dvd as an alternative choice
I'm basically for it. Does anyone have objection against it?
As I commented in the feature #308892, current iBus has much more advantages than disadvantages compared with SCIM. So I'm also basically for it. However, if we set iBus as a default input method, I hope some issues will be solved until the release of openSUSE 12.1. - Input problem on Flash site Please go to http://bugzilla-attachments.mozilla.gr.jp/attachment.cgi?id=2275 and try whether you can input characters there. # related bug report: # http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=1113 One of the Japanese users tweeted that he could input characters with openSUSE 12.1 M1 + M17N/iBus 1.3.9 + (anthy or mozc) + Firefox 5.0 beta, but I myself haven't tested it yet. At least, we need a workaround for this problem. - Input-pad Currently we don't have a good input-pad for inputting special characters or marks which can be integrated to iBus (SCIM has scim-input-pad for this purpose). I've found Input Pad project http://code.google.com/p/input-pad/ and tried to build packages for openSUSE on OBS, but I haven't succeeded building them yet after openSUSE 11.4 (yep, I could use them at least on my openSUSE 11.3) and can't figure out the cause of the failure. I know who need it should work on it, but your help will be so much appreciated. ;-)
Basically we'd need two things:
- Enable locale supplements in ibus.spec and IM packages - Adjust the priority in xim.d in ibus.spec
Reading the changelog of ibus package which is recently submitted to M17N repo by Ray, the priority is now set to 40. I think the score is reasonable and once we find a problem with this priority in the future, we will be able to change it anytime, won't we? Best, -- _/_/ Satoru Matsumoto - openSUSE Member - Japan _/_/ _/_/ Marketing/Weekly News/openFATE Screening Team _/_/ _/_/ mail: helios_reds_at_gmx.net / irc: HeliosReds _/_/ _/_/ http://blog.zaq.ne.jp/opensuse/ _/_/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ja+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ja+help@opensuse.org
松本です。 えー、いきなり英語の文面が流れてきて当惑された方がいらっしゃいましたらご めんなさい。 以前このメーリングリストでも話題になったデフォルトインプットメソッドを SCIM から iBus に…という件ですが、以下のように -m17n メーリングリストで 話が始まっています。 このまま特に反対意見がなければおそらく 12.1 では iBus が既定になると思い ますが、この機会に何か提案等がありましたら -m17n メーリングリストか openFATE のフィーチャーかにコメントお願いします。 https://features.opensuse.org/308892 たとえばデフォルト変換エンジンを Mozc に変えようとか、このパッケージもデ フォルトで入るようにしようとか思われるようでしたら、是非「メンテナンスす るのでそうしましょう！」と名乗り出てください。ライセンス的な問題や他の パッケージとの依存関係のコンフリクトさえクリアできていれば、「私がや る！」と申し出てくださればほぼ間違いなく提案は通ると思います。 Satoru Matsumoto wrote:
Hi mates,
I will Cc this post to -factory and -ja lists in hopes of getting more feedback.
@users who need to input multi-byte characters
We are now discussing about replacing SCIM with iBus as our default input method for multi-byte characters.
If you are interested in this topic, please try ibus related packages in M17N repo and if you find some problems, join the discussion on -m17n list or comment the feature #308892. https://features.opensuse.org/308892
Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:31:53 +0000, Ray Chen wrote:
I've download 12.1 m1 DVD Found that default input method is still scim Scim seems out of maintenance I hope 12.1 can use ibus as default input method but keep scim in dvd as an optional choise and add gcin and fcitx (available in M17N) to dvd as an alternative choice
I'm basically for it. Does anyone have objection against it?
As I commented in the feature #308892, current iBus has much more advantages than disadvantages compared with SCIM. So I'm also basically for it.
However, if we set iBus as a default input method, I hope some issues will be solved until the release of openSUSE 12.1.
- Input problem on Flash site
Please go to http://bugzilla-attachments.mozilla.gr.jp/attachment.cgi?id=2275 and try whether you can input characters there.
# related bug report: # http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=1113
One of the Japanese users tweeted that he could input characters with openSUSE 12.1 M1 + M17N/iBus 1.3.9 + (anthy or mozc) + Firefox 5.0 beta, but I myself haven't tested it yet.
At least, we need a workaround for this problem.
- Input-pad
Currently we don't have a good input-pad for inputting special characters or marks which can be integrated to iBus (SCIM has scim-input-pad for this purpose).
I've found Input Pad project http://code.google.com/p/input-pad/ and tried to build packages for openSUSE on OBS, but I haven't succeeded building them yet after openSUSE 11.4 (yep, I could use them at least on my openSUSE 11.3) and can't figure out the cause of the failure.
I know who need it should work on it, but your help will be so much appreciated. ;-)
Basically we'd need two things:
- Enable locale supplements in ibus.spec and IM packages - Adjust the priority in xim.d in ibus.spec
Reading the changelog of ibus package which is recently submitted to M17N repo by Ray, the priority is now set to 40. I think the score is reasonable and once we find a problem with this priority in the future, we will be able to change it anytime, won't we?
Best,
-- _/_/ Satoru Matsumoto - openSUSE Member - Japan _/_/ _/_/ Marketing/Weekly News/openFATE Screening Team _/_/ _/_/ mail: helios_reds_at_gmx.net / irc: HeliosReds _/_/ _/_/ http://blog.zaq.ne.jp/opensuse/ _/_/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ja+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ja+help@opensuse.org
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