On 12/7/06, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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o me conviene bajar el ISO e instalarlo ?

Claro. Lo arrancas, y le dices que instale: o bien actualizando, o bien machacando: tu eliges.

Y haz un backup antes, hagas lo que hagas: quedas advertido ;-)

yo me estoy bajando el iso del dvd... sera que puedo instalarlo sin tener que grabarlo en un dvd? solo monto el iso y creen que pueda instalarlo sin tener que grabarlo...??? -- Ciao, Javier linux counter #393724 GPG Key Fingerprint = 46B76CFEDB0161089D9ECB22FEFDE7EBA8C2007E I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) --Linus Torvalds --------------------------------------------------------------------- Para dar de baja la suscripción, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+unsubscribe@opensuse.org Para obtener el resto de direcciones-comando, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+help@opensuse.org

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solo monto el iso y creen que pueda instalarlo sin tener que grabarlo...???

No lo creo posible, tendrías que inventar el método.

jajjajajja, bueno solo imaginaba que instalaba y cuando buteaba levantaba en 10.2.... -- Ciao, Javier linux counter #393724 GPG Key Fingerprint = 46B76CFEDB0161089D9ECB22FEFDE7EBA8C2007E I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) --Linus Torvalds --------------------------------------------------------------------- Para dar de baja la suscripción, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+unsubscribe@opensuse.org Para obtener el resto de direcciones-comando, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El 2007-01-16 a las 21:36 +0100, Antonio Sanchez escribió:

Si que hay un metodo:

Installation without CD De openSUSE, la enciclopedia libre.

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Hubiera sido mejor haber puesto simplemente el enlace, ya que son veinte kilo bibytes de correo. Es más, ni siquiera has puesto el enlace de donde has sacado este texto :-p ...

Preparamos el GRUB para que arranque desde esa partición. Hay que editar como root el archivo /boot/grub/menu.lst y añadir lo siguiente al final:

title Install SUSE root (hd0,3) kernel /boot/i386/loader/linux root=/dev/hda4 vga=0x317 initrd /boot/i386/loader/initrd

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yo he usado ese metodo en varias ocaciones y funciona, solo "descomprimes" el iso en una particion (que no sea ntfs!!!) y en tu menulst de boot colocas las lineas necesarias para montar el kernel del iso y con eso bootearas, tal y como lo explicaron :P _______________________________________ TSU en Telemática Héctor Reyes Armenta Puebla, Mexico Cel: 2221 74 68 38

From: Antonio Sanchez To: opensuse-es@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-es] Actualizar de 10.1 a 10.2 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:36:58 +0100

El Jueves, 7 de Diciembre de 2006 17:20, Carlos E. R. escribió:

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El 2006-12-07 a las 12:17 -0400, javier rojas escribió:

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yo me estoy bajando el iso del dvd... sera que puedo instalarlo sin tener que grabarlo en un dvd?

Yo no he dicho tal cosa.

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solo monto el iso y creen que pueda instalarlo sin tener que grabarlo...???

No lo creo posible, tendrías que inventar el método.

Si que hay un metodo:

Installation without CD De openSUSE, la enciclopedia libre.

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Pueden haber distintas razones por las que uno prefiera instalar el sistema sin tener que quemar los CD's o el DVD, una puede ser por comodidad debido a la gran capacidad de los discos duros y el bajo precio de los discos duros externos. Una posibilidad es la siguiente: Para esta posibilidad necesitamos espacio de disco duro suficiente, un sistema linux en marcha, y el gestor de arranque GRUB instalado, aunque es fácilmente exportable con diferentes características.

Vamos a suponer que creamos la partición hda4, como ejemplo.

Una vez bajada la imagen del DVD de SUSE, se ha de comprovar que es correcta.

Creamos una partición nueva en el disco duro, 4 GB son suficientes, y la montamos.

ejemplo: partición hda4 montada en /hda4

Montamos la imagen del DVD, utilizando la consola en modo root.

mount -t iso9660 -o loop boot.iso /mnt

Copiamos el montaje entero en la nueva partición.

ejemplo: con konqueror en modo root, accedemos a /mnt y lo copiamos, accedemos a /hda4 y lo pegamos. desmontamos /mnt para liberar espacio con umount /mnt

Preparamos el GRUB para que arranque desde esa partición. Hay que editar como root el archivo /boot/grub/menu.lst y añadir lo siguiente al final:

title Install SUSE root (hd0,3) kernel /boot/i386/loader/linux root=/dev/hda4 vga=0x317 initrd /boot/i386/loader/initrd

La notación es la siguiente: La primera unidad de disco es 0. La primera partición es 0.

title título de la entrada root (hdnúmero unidad,número partición) kernel ruta al archivo linux root=partición a montar vga=tipo vídeo initrd ruta al archivo initrd

Una vez iniciado el sistema nos pedirá el CD 1, escogemos BACK y seleccionamos instalar el sistema desde el disco duro, seleccionando la partición donde tenemos montada la imagen del DVD.

Installation without CD From openSUSE

Contents [hide]

* 1 Introduction * 2 Getting the data o 2.1 Before installation o 2.2 During installation * 3 Installing the data o 3.1 Installing from data stored on another machine (Internet/Network install) + 3.1.1 Internet/Network install using GRUB/LILO + 3.1.2 Internet/Network install using boot floppies + 3.1.3 Remote Network Installation + 3.1.4 Internet/Network install using USB Stick # 3.1.4.1 Creating a bootable USB Stick version of mini.iso entirely from Windows # 3.1.4.2 Creating a bootable USB Stick from Linux o 3.2 Installing from data saved on your local machine * 4 Changing the bootloader sequence o 4.1 Grub o 4.2 Lilo o 4.3 Others * 5 Running the setup

[edit] Introduction

Sometimes you cannot burn a CD or DVD because you do not have a burner, or because you do not have any blank disks left. You might still want to install SUSE on that machine. You will need an internet connection to get the data. Whether data retrieval is done before installation, by downloading the sources, or during installation, by connecting through FTP or HTTP, is irrelevant. [edit] Getting the data

Getting the data can be done in two ways. Before the installation or during installation. [edit] Before installation

If you download the installation data before installation you need to take some steps to make the data available to the installation kernel. Again there are two ways: on your own machine or with a machine you can reach via a network. If you do it on your own machine, check that you have a separate partition available that is large enough to hold everything, one that won't be formatted during installation. You can use makeSUSEdvd with the paramater

makeSUSEdvd -i -t /path/to/source

you can mirror the site, or you can download the ISO files directly. See mirrors for the development build and mirrors for the released versions. For an installation from an installation Source, just make the data available for the local machine. [edit] During installation

When installing over the internet, just follow the installation via FTP. You need to have a network connection to be able to connect to an installation source, like a mirror or a machine on your local network. [edit] Installing the data

You need to boot into the installation kernel. Different methods are used according to the location of the data. The methods may also vary slightly depending on what OS you plan to set up your install from. [edit] Installing from data stored on another machine (Internet/Network install)

You can either mount the minimal boot.iso and extract a boot/installation kernel for use with the GRUB or LILO bootloaders, or you can extract some floppy disk images to set up and boot from floppy disk. [edit] Internet/Network install using GRUB/LILO

First download the boot.iso from any mirror. The following needs to be done as root. Move or copy the boot.iso to the directory boot. Next in directory /boot do the following:

# mount -t iso9660 -o loop boot.iso /mnt # cp /mnt/boot/loader/initrd /boot/suseinitrd # cp /mnt/boot/loader/linux /boot/suselinux # umount /mnt

In SUSE Linux 10.1, the paths have changed. You can find linux and initrd in /mnt/boot/<arch>/loader/ now (please replace <arch> with i386, x86_64 or ppc depending on your hardware).

You can now setup GRUB/LILO to boot into the installation kernel using the instructions further down this guide. [edit] Internet/Network install using boot floppies

To boot and install from floppy disks you need to download the first installation CD iso (SUSE-10.0-CD-OSS-i386-GM-CD1.iso). Now the following needs to be done as root from the directory where you saved the CD1 installation iso. Do the following as root from the folder where the iso exists:

# su # mount -t iso9660 -o loop SUSE-10.0-CD-OSS-i386-GM-CD1.iso /mnt # /mnt/boot/mkbootdisk /mnt

It seems that the layout for the 10.1 CDs has changed and mkbootdisk doesn't work well anymore (see this bug). For 10.1 you can do something like this:

# su # mount -t iso9660 -o loop SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-i386-CD1.iso /mnt # /path/to/mkbootdisk /mnt/boot/i386/loader/

Be sure to first download mkbootdisk as it doesn't seem to be on the CD anymore. You can get it here.

Do the next command for each floppy disk, bootdisk1-7

# dd if=bootdisk1 of=/dev/fd0

Image:Create_boot_floppy_1_to_7.jpg

Now use the floppys you created to boot the installation kernel and start your online install. [edit] Remote Network Installation

This is about remote installation, where one has no direct access to machine where SUSE will be installed, using some properties of GRUB that are not widely known:

* http://disruptive.org.uk/2006/01/28/suse_remote_install_howto.html

[edit] Internet/Network install using USB Stick [edit] Creating a bootable USB Stick version of mini.iso entirely from Windows

Assuming the version of Suse is 10.1 x86_64 or i386 and the usb stick is E: in Windows:

* Extract mini.iso to E: with WinRar * Move E:\boot\x86_64\loader\* or E:\boot\i386\loader\* to E:\ * Delete E:\isolinux.bin * Rename E:\isolinux.cfg to E:\syslinux.cfg * Extract syslinux-<version>.zip to c:\syslinux * CD to c:\syslinux\syslinux<version>\win32 directory in a cmd prompt * Run syslinux E:

[edit] Creating a bootable USB Stick from Linux

This assumes that the usb stick is /dev/sda with an active partition /dev/sda1 and 12 megs of available space.

i386

umount /dev/sda1 mount -o loop SUSE-Linux-10.1-Remastered-i386-mini.iso /mnt /mnt/boot/i386/mkbootdisk --32 --partition /dev/sda1 /mnt

x86_64

umount /dev/sda1 mount -o loop SUSE-Linux-10.1-Remastered-x86_64-mini.iso /mnt /mnt/boot/x86_64/mkbootdisk --64 --partition /dev/sda1 /mnt

Boot the stick and follow other directions in 'Running the Setup' to load a network card driver and specify network settings to reach a network-hosted copy of the install media.

At the end of the install, the grub boot loader mbr may be written to the stick instead of the hard disk. Just leave the stick in and reboot the machine. It will boot into the new installed OS instead of the miniboot install menu. Go into yast, system, boot loader, boot loader installation. Select the appropriate device for your installation, Finish. Now the machine will boot itself without the stick installed. [edit] Installing from data saved on your local machine

If you have put a mirror or the ISO files on a local hard drive, or if you have used makeSUSEdvd to make the Install source for you, please remember in what drive and on what partition it is placed. Write it down.

SUSE needs access to two files in order to boot into the installation system. These files are initrd and linux.

* If you have downloaded the source (mirrored), do the following:

# cp /path/to/source/boot/loader/initrd /boot/inst-initrd # cp /path/to/source/boot/loader/linux /boot/inst-linux

* If you have downloaded the ISO files to your hard drive you will need to download initrd and linux from an Installation Repository mirror serparately. To do this go to the Mirrors Released Version page, find a mirror in your country, and click on the "Installation Repository" link for the mirror. Navigate to the /boot folder, then the folder for your architecture, then the folder /loader. Inside this folder, find and download initrd and linux. Save these to your /boot directory on your local machine and rename them inst-initrd and inst-linux respectively.

* If you are experienced, you do not need to do this and set mount points to /path/to/source/boot/loader/linux where it uses /boot/inst-linux instead. The same goes for the initrd. You need to know on what partition and directory you have placed it.

[edit] Changing the bootloader sequence

The boot sequence will need some things. It needs to know on what harddrive it must look. It needs to know where the kernel is and and where the initrc is. I will asume that / (root directory) is /dev/hda2 and the /path/to/source is /dev/hda3 If after rebooting you need some time to choose what to boot, change the timeout in Grub or Lilo.

If you have used makeSUSEdvd with the -i option, you will be presented what to enter into /boot/grub/menu.lst or /etc/lilo.conf. No need to move linux and initrd. [edit] Grub

Add the following to /boot/grub/menu.lst

title Install SUSE root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/inst-linux initrd /boot/inst-initrd

The naming of drives is a bit different in Grub. The first partition is 0 and the next 1 and so on. The first drive is 0, the second is 1 and so on, not regarding the CD or DVD drives. So if your CD player is /dev/hdb and you have Linux with boot on /dev/hdc3 that will become

root (hd1,2)

Second hard drive (0, 1, ...) and third partition (0, 1, 2, ...) See info grub or do the installation with YaST. [edit] Lilo

Please somebody confirm the information below. Add the following lines to /etc/lilo.conf

image=/boot/suselinux initrd=/boot/suseinitrd label=Install_SUSE root=/dev/hda1 > (You need to set your drive according to your setup)

Do not forget to run lilo before you reboot. This has been tested on two x86 computers with both Grub and Lilo and this works fine. [edit] Others

Look at comparisons on how to configure a boot into Linux and specify the correct kernel inst-linux and inst-initrd on the correct drive.

Using this method of installation with SUSE Linux 10.1 Beta 6 might fail (Bug 155351). [edit] Running the setup

Remove any CDs or DVDs from their drives. You will just need to reboot and then choose Install SUSE Several choices need to be made. It mainly is clicking OK several times until you must select a way to install

* The first message will be Make sure that CD number 1 is in your computer. Press OK. * You then get notified that it could not find the CD and it will start the Manual Setup. Press OK. * You need to select the Language. Press OK. * Choose the keyboard map. Press OK. * You get the main menu. Select Start installation or System which is the default and press OK. * You get Start installation or Update and must choose either network (via FTP) or Hard Disc (local drive) o Via Network. Choose the server and directory containing the install files. o Hard Disk. You will be asked to choose the partition. Next choose the directory. + For ISO files you will need to type the directory and complete filename of the first ISO file. + Example -- Partition: /sda1 (USB hard drive) Directory: /SUSECDs/SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-i386-CD1.iso

Warning Now the normal Yast installation will start. If the source is on your local drive, see that you do not format that partition.

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Yo lo hice asi y me funciono bien.

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