[opensuse-translation] Problems and suggestions about openSUSE localization package installation
Hi everyone, I have some comments and suggestions about how to improve the end user experience for installation of language localization packages. Before I go farther, am I on the right list for this topic? :) Thanks, have a great day. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org
Den 27. nov. 2015 23:09, S. skreiv:
Hi everyone,
I have some comments and suggestions about how to improve the end user experience for installation of language localization packages. Before I go farther, am I on the right list for this topic? :)
Technically, I guess this is can be considered a suitable mailing list for discussing this, but I think you will have more luck in reaching the people able to something about the problem on either the opensuse-packaging or the opensuse-factory mailing list. -- Karl Ove Hufthammer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org
Thanks Karl for the reply. I'll post the issue here first. I'm running into a major issue that makes it really hard for me to use openSUSE. I need to install an additional interface language on my system apart from English, and there is apparently a very good YAST module for this. However, it doesn't actually install the relevant `-lang` packages because it depends on the zypper package recommends, which I have disabled. I tried re-enabling it and re-enabling the language I want, but it only installs a few spellcheck dictionaries and Firefox language packs, but not the profusion of `-lang` packages that I need for each and every GUI app. Then I tried doing a `zypper install-new-recommends`, but I aborted because it wanted to install a whopping 715 new packages for a grand total on the disk of well over **1GB**!!! I don't really think that the package recommends system is the right tool for installing `-lang` packages for a given language. Or is there any workaround I can use or some hidden zypp(er) setting that will make it only heed `-lang` recommends and none of the others? Thanks for any insight. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org
Op maandag 30 november 2015 16:09:08 schreef S.:
Thanks Karl for the reply. I'll post the issue here first.
I'm running into a major issue that makes it really hard for me to use openSUSE. I need to install an additional interface language on my system apart from English, and there is apparently a very good YAST module for this. However, it doesn't actually install the relevant `-lang` packages because it depends on the zypper package recommends, which I have disabled. I tried re-enabling it and re-enabling the language I want, but it only installs a few spellcheck dictionaries and Firefox language packs, but not the profusion of `-lang` packages that I need for each and every GUI app. Then I tried doing a `zypper install-new-recommends`, but I aborted because it wanted to install a whopping 715 new packages for a grand total on the disk of well over **1GB**!!!
I don't really think that the package recommends system is the right tool for installing `-lang` packages for a given language.
Or is there any workaround I can use or some hidden zypp(er) setting that will make it only heed `-lang` recommends and none of the others?
Thanks for any insight.
Did you try YaST -> Software -> Software Management -> View -> Languages and select the appropriate language. You should get a list of packages containing the localization for that language. You can enable or disable required or unwanted packages. -- fr.gr. member openSUSE Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org
Did you try YaST -> Software -> Software Management -> View -> Languages and select the appropriate language. You should get a list of packages containing the localization for that language. You can enable or disable required or unwanted packages.
Yes, thanks for the suggestion. The Languages tab is helpful, but unfortunately it doesn't list all of the *-lang packages that are required for most X11 applications. With the exception of certain Mozilla programs, LibreOffice, and some parts of certain desktop environments, most other X11 applications have a separate -lang translation package that contains all available translations. For example, NetworkManager-gnome-lang, gedit-lang, evince-lang, etc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org
Op maandag 30 november 2015 16:38:01 schreef S.:
Did you try YaST -> Software -> Software Management -> View -> Languages and select the appropriate language. You should get a list of packages containing the localization for that language. You can enable or disable required or unwanted packages.
Yes, thanks for the suggestion. The Languages tab is helpful, but unfortunately it doesn't list all of the *-lang packages that are required for most X11 applications. With the exception of certain Mozilla programs, LibreOffice, and some parts of certain desktop environments, most other X11 applications have a separate -lang translation package that contains all available translations. For example, NetworkManager-gnome-lang, gedit-lang, evince-lang, etc.
In that case you can enter -lang in the search field to find these packages. I am Dutch so I need these -lang packages, which are auto magically installed. I currently have about 80 of these packages. Don't know how much it takes. Unfortunately they also have localization files for other languages than Dutch. Only a small number of applications have these files separate. Nowadays 1 GB of wasted space on a disc is not very much. -- fr.gr. member openSUSE Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org
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