Michael Galloway wrote:

On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:59:42AM -0400, suse@rio.vg wrote:

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ZenWorks is broken. YOU doesn't seem to work. It looks like Novell changed the way their update servers work, breaking fou4s. Anyone know any workarounds?

The only ray of hope is that apt is now an official package and seems to work great. I wonder if it might be easier to have fou4s work through apt, rather than the current system?

try smart:

http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=System/smart/

works ok for me.

The smart gui seems to be decent are a package manager replacement, and I'm definitely going to using it on my workstation, but the command line version doesn't seem to be geared toward running it in a cron job at night. Apt pretty easily performs that main function of fou4s, though fou4s present the information and manages it much better. Running the following will download all new updates without installing them, so you can review and install later: /usr/bin/apt-get -qq update /usr/bin/apt-get upgrade -d -y -q Just pipe the output to mail or whatever you want. (I run it inside a larger script that runs logwatch and tripwire and sends the output of all three in a single e-mail to me each night) You can then run `apt-get upgrade` later to quickly install the updates the cron script downloaded. I'll miss fou4s's listing the reasons for each patch and the step-by-step and ignore and fun features like that.

Marcus Meissner wrote:

On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:59:42AM -0400, suse@rio.vg wrote:

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ZenWorks is broken. YOU doesn't seem to work. It looks like Novell changed the way their update servers work, breaking fou4s. Anyone know any workarounds?

We will be updating online update functionality via online update soon to fix outstanding issues.

Will updating online update via online update work when online update isn't updating? :) (Say that five times fast!)

YOU works fine for me btw.

I've got the same problem I've seen reported to SuSE-Linux-e, YOU comes up, sees packages to update, I hit 'Accept', and the program vanishes, no errors, nothing.

The remote format is a enhanced repo-md style repository and can be accessed by "yum".

I've just installed yum. No suse repo files installed by default, went poking around the net and found someone offering some. Yum, like zmd, seems to take several minutes of maxed out CPU just to check if there are any updates.

On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 09:10:07PM +0100, Keith Roberts wrote:

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From the fou4s development list:

To: fou4s-devel@gaugusch.at From: Markus Gaugusch Subject: [Fou4s-devel] SuSE 10.1 support

Hi, Unfortunately SuSE has changed the format of the update descriptions to a new -- XML based -- format. I've received an awk-based xml parser from a user which should make it rather easy to parse the XML files without additional software.

Unfortunately though, I'm in the process of finishing my masters thesis and don't have much time to work on fou4s :(

If anyone is interested in implementing a new parser - just contact me :)

Please try "yum". Markus, you might look at xsltproc to convert XML to some other format ;) Ciao, Marcus

Ingvar Berg wrote:

Hi,

From my crontab: 23 4 * * * /usr/bin/smart upgrade -y --update

Isn't that rather dangerous? I mean, that updates immediately in the middle of the night. If there's some incompatibility in th update, your server will be offline... In a production environment, I much prefer the "Check and download" at night, then I review and install as needed in the morning for trivial things, during off hours for more critical items. smart and yum don't seem to have that functionality, though fou4s and apt-get do.