AW: [suse-security] Fou4s - Fast OnlineUpdate for SuSE 0.1.0
Von: Ralf Ronneburger [mailto:ralf@ronneburger.de] Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. April 2002 12:08 An: SuSE-Security Betreff: Re: [suse-security] Fou4s - Fast OnlineUpdate for SuSE 0.1.0
Markus Gaugusch wrote:
As a configuration tool, YaST is still good (I only use YaST1), and you can use /etc/rc.config as well.
But it look like yast1 will not be part of SuSE 8.0, as far as I've seen from the package-list :-(. I've feared this a long time... So well have to stick with /etc/rc.config and Fou4s.
Sorry, but from my first 8.0 installation on a test system I learned: no more /etc/rc.config, everything went to /etc/sysconfig/* . I think this was the (last) cause for the beloved yast1 to disappear. But this is off topic... Thomas
Thomas Lamy wrote:
Von: Ralf Ronneburger [mailto:ralf@ronneburger.de] Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. April 2002 12:08 An: SuSE-Security Betreff: Re: [suse-security] Fou4s - Fast OnlineUpdate for SuSE 0.1.0
Markus Gaugusch wrote:
As a configuration tool, YaST is still good (I only use YaST1), and you can use /etc/rc.config as well.
But it look like yast1 will not be part of SuSE 8.0, as far as I've seen from the package-list :-(. I've feared this a long time... So well have to stick with /etc/rc.config and Fou4s.
Sorry, but from my first 8.0 installation on a test system I learned: no more /etc/rc.config, everything went to /etc/sysconfig/* . I think this was the (last) cause for the beloved yast1 to disappear.
But this is off topic...
Thomas
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Bummer........ yast1 was great (simpler) for text based admin work (no X running). Somewhat like using a command line vs. GUI tool. -- Ken Schneider
* Ken Schneider (kschneider@rtsx.com) [020416 12:40]:
yast1 was great (simpler) for text based admin work (no X running). Somewhat like using a command line vs. GUI tool.
There's an ncurses mode for yast2 as well. -- -ckm
Hi list, I found yast1 more convenient to use than yast2 in text mode, since the user interface of yast2 is much more complicated compared to yast1. Too much TABs, SPACEes etc. I just gave webmin a try - looks good, but I'm not sure about its security implications. I'm using it in a shielded environment up to now, but what about servers on the internet? Best regards Roland Hilkenbach
. I just gave webmin a try - looks good, but I'm not sure about its security implications. I'm using it in a shielded environment up to now, but what about servers on the internet?
You can run Webmin in SSL Mode. In the Webmin config you can configure webmin only to use ssl: https://localhost:10000 then is the adress of webmin sorry my english isn`t so good greatings tobi
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Tobias Korb wrote:
. I just gave webmin a try - looks good, but I'm not sure about its security implications. I'm using it in a shielded environment up to now, but what about servers on the internet?
You can run Webmin in SSL Mode.
I think you can also run yast2 in graphical mode from a remote X desktop on a server without X, using ssh -X (and sudo /sbin/yast2 ) This still doesn't get round the problem that a 32MB RAM box - such as a small firewall, webserver or proxy - probably needs upgrading to 64MB or perhaps higher to be able to use yast2 comfortably - even without X running locally. (Not to mention extra swap space.) It seems a shame people are switching to lighter distributions to avoid memory upgrades on these small DMZ and perimeter servers. I write only about yast2 from 7.3 as I didn't get 8.x yet. Maybe 8.0 yast2 has some memory optimizations. dproc
Hello List, i don't know how yast2 performs with SuSE 8.0, but in 7.3 he is just like the name of his process: bignfat. On a 133Pentium with 96MB Ram and KDE2 running you simply can't work with YaST2. On startup of YaST2 it's really like in the old times, you can drink a cup of coffee while the programs comes up. On the other hand the P133 is not really state of the Art. In my Opinion Yast2 is a great tool, but not for a old machine. I want also say that the SuSE-Distri is a great piece of work and i want thank all the SuSE-people for the great work. Hendrik
i mean,
i ve to learn to work with the new! yast2, but it makes a lot of things easier, also
in CTI mode. i think in 1 week i will be so fast like in yast1.
it seems that other thinks are made easier to configure now from hand (like network)
we made more then 20 Installations with Suse 8.0, and it seems to be an good work
from SuSE. thx ! a lot
i hope the kernel will not crash, like the last kernel for suse 7.3 ;-). we had a
lot of work because this mistake. shit happens :-)
can we make now all security updates 7.3 without crashes ?
bye
ernesto
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roland Hilkenbach"
Hi list, I found yast1 more convenient to use than yast2 in text mode, since the user interface of yast2 is much more complicated compared to yast1. Too much TABs, SPACEes etc. I just gave webmin a try - looks good, but I'm not sure about its security implications. I'm using it in a shielded environment up to now, but what about servers on the internet?
Best regards
Roland Hilkenbach
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Christopher Mahmood -
dproc＠dol.net -
Ernesto Fries -
Hendrik Brandenburger -
Ken Schneider -
Roland Hilkenbach -
Thomas Lamy -
Tobias Korb